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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. The Washington Post published a story about Tyler

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Robinson's life and political views prior to the shooting of

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Charlie Kirk. Okay, well, what his life in his views

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before the killing, not that the story was published before

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the killing, okay anyway, John Sexton, writing at hot air

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dot com say is what they found is that Robinson

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seemed to have a fairly bland the like sort of

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a pos on both of their houses view of the

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two political parties for quite a while, but that all

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changed when he started dating his roommate. His roommate was

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very vocal about trans rights and his disgust at the

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reelection of President Trump. His boyfriend, Lance Twiggs is his name,

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but was transing to Luna but told friends, you don't

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have to change my pronouns or anything like that, which

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is kind of weird, but okay whatever. So the story

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in the Washington Post, of course, it starts off as

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sort of like a rebuttal to Trump and Republicans who

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are like, you know, they've been claiming that he was

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radicalized by left wing extremists, but there's no evidence to

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show that. And then, of course they spend the rest

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of the article detailing what could be considered to be

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evidence of the radicalization. It goes into detail which demonstrates

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that Robinson was in fact radicalized by a left wing extremist,

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his boyfriend. Here's from the Washington Post article. Some people

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said they noticed changes in Robinson over roughly the past year.

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His mother told police that he had become more pro

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gay and trans rights oriented. That's a quote. And it

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started dating a roommate who was undergoing a gender transition.

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Friends confirmed the pair's romantic involvement and said the roommate

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was distressed about anti trans sentiment. After the presidential election,

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According to one person who was close to him at

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the time, Robinson began to voice concern for the rights

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of transgender people and to express disapproval of the new administration,

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though the person said he wasn't really strident in those views,

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which kind of makes sense. Right, you're young guy, you're

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in this relationship now and your boyfriend, girlfriend, your friend friend,

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your significant other. Let's say you'rees O your significant other.

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They're all worked up about a particular issue that directly

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impacts them. They feel under siege. They're literally trying to

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genocide me, right, like that kind of a view. And

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this guy Robinson, you know, being in this new relationship

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where I've not seen any reporting that he had ever

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had any relationship prior, he now starts to adopt some

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of these beliefs, and he starts saying some of these

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things makes sense, sort of like you know, Brad Pitt

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kind of adopts the look of every woman that he's

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in a relationship with. Kind of like that. By the way,

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we've known this stuff for months. There is some new

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information in the Washington Post article, but it largely confirms

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what the initial read was when we saw the text messages,

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and people, you know, dug up all of his social

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media posts and they pulled up his gaming profiles and

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all of that stuff. You know, his hanging out in

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some multiple MMRPG, the online gaming world where like people

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put on the virtual reality headsets and they become animals,

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and then they're all in this world together with each other,

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and then of course they proceed to engage in sex

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x on each other virtually. Of course, although I have

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a pretty good idea, like if you're rooming with a

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dude that is confused about whether they're a guy or

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a girl, and you go and virtually get dressed up

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as furries, and you're engaging in this hyper sexualized behavior

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in a virtual space, you could see how it might

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progress to the physical space very quickly because you're gonna

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get all lamped up in the virtual world, and in

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the real world, you've got this roommate of yours that's

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in the virtual world with you doing these things. So

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it seems like a natural leap, you know, not even

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a leap, it's really just kind of a step, you know.

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So it all started when Robinson moved into an apartment

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with two other guys. The apartment was regularly a scene

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where Robinson's friends would gather to play a game called Magic.

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The gathering friends regularly regularly came to the apartment to

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play the card game. According to Scord Messages, that's a

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messaging app, texting and audio and whatever. It's big in

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the gamer world as well. Discord and so there were

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four other men who were part of this little circle

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that would play this card game Magic. They described Robinson

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as a generally quiet presence who came across more as

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libertarian or conservative, a fairly typical person in their southern

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Utah world. He had a revolver, according to two people

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who remembered him showing it off once. One of them

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said he liked to practice shooting on public lands near

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the Arizona border. He loved his guns, he loved his beer.

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He hated the government. That's the impression that I got.

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But things started to change when Robinson started becoming openly

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affectionate with one of his roommates. Two of the Magic players,

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they thought Robinson was straight until he and that roommate

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grew openly affectionate, cuddling and then kissing in the apartment.

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The roommate posted this is Twigs Lance. Twiggs posted Halloween

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pictures with Robinson on a private Instagram account and under

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the screenshot had written, my BF is the best love

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you around That same time, the roommate quietly began coming

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out to some people as transgender. This according to three friends.

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Two others said they were not aware that the roommate

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was transitioning. Okay, the roommate viewed Trump's election as a

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loss for trans rights and was distraught more than once.

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More than once the person. This person said he saw

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Tyler Robinson cradling his sobbing roommate in his arms. It's

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like you're going over to play the card game and

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you walk in, like, hey, everybody, who's down for some magic,

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you know, and and you've got Robinson holding an emotional

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wreck of a person. I don't know that if this

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was because of like some hormones they were taking Twigs

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was taking, I don't know, Like I don't know how

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like down the road of transing lance Twigs was. But

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it's possible. I guess that you're getting shot up with

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all of these estrogen shots and such that maybe that's

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what made him really emotional and he was sobbing uncontrollably.

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But this happened repeatedly. In February, the roommate erupted, so

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Twigs erupted at a friend who was visiting from out

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of town and came to the apartment for a game

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of magic, and, according to two people there, as this

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visitor began to say something about transgender athletes, the roommate

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interrupted him from another room and shouted repeatedly to shut up.

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Robinson just sat by quietly on a couch and then

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like everybody got quiet, and then they just started playing again,

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just like awkward. But I mean, think about what that

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must have sounded like.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up, shut.

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Speaker 1: Up, screaming from another room. So again a little unstable.

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Post talk to a whole bunch of people, interviews with

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twenty one people who knew Tyler Robinson, as well as

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reviewed hundreds of messages he exchanged online over the past

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five years. And what the Washington Post report, what their

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deep dive investigation has revealed, is that Tyler Robinson was

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pretty milk toast, pretty normy, and then moved in with

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a couple of dudes, started playing a lot of video

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games and started hooking up with the dude one of

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the roommates, and that roommate then began transing and was

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an emotionally unstable mess about all of the attacks on

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transgenders and all this and they're trying to genocide me

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and all of that, and then he went out and

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murdered Charlie Kirk. And so seems like the initial read

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on this that this guy Robinson had gotten radicalized after

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he had left home, you know, with his conservative, Maga

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Republican parents, because that was the initial narrative that the

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media tried to spin, remember, was that, oh, he came

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from a conservative household. It's like, well, then why would

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he kill Charlie Kirk. That doesn't make any sense. And

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then the parents came out and they were like, oh, yeah,

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he started to change his political views, began shifting far left,

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and yep, yeah, well that this seems to track. Then,

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after Robinson started dating his roommate, According to one person

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who spent a significant amount of time at the apartment

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during this period, after he started dating the roommate, Robinson

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began criticizing conservatives for fear mongering on trans issues. Robinson

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also complained about right wing figures in the news, including Trump,

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and apparently after the attempt on Trump's life, Robinson made

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some joke that everybody obviously knew it was a joke,

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but joking about, you know, an attempted assassination of a

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political candidate. But then he began complaining a lot about

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right wing figures in the news, and we knew this

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as well because we've seen some of those screenshots we

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talked about Charlie Kirk. After the shooting, Robinson asked a

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few of his friends. So, after the shooting, while they're

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looking for Tyler Robinson, Robinson asked some of his friends

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online what they had heard about the shooting. When the

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FBI put out photos of a suspect, it was his

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parents who thought the images looked like their son. Now,

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I also recall that the firearm that was used, the

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long gun, was a distinctive kind of rifle, and the

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father of Tyler Robinson recognized the rifle as Robinson's grandfather's,

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and so they started asking Robinson, Hey, where's Grandpa's gun,

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because they noticed the gun found at the scene looked

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a lot like grandpa's and it was distinctive. It had

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some attachments to it or something. I forget exactly what,

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but it was unique. They asked him to come over

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to their house and talk, and during that conversation, Robinson

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reportedly confessed to his father and they convinced him to

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turn himself into police. The Washington Post story. Again, this

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is John Sexton at hot air dot Com. The Washington

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this because he became emotionally involved with a trans person

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who was emotionally invested in hating conservatives and shouting down

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anybody who disagreed. Robinson adopted those views as his own,

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and then it seems acted on them. He wasn't a

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trans shooter, but he was a shooter motivated by trans

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politics and one trans person that he had become very

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close with. I guess we'll eventually get some sort of

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a denial about some or all of this during his trial.

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Some people would rather believe that this is all just

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a mystery or it's all just a conspiracy. But it

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does not seem very difficult to understand. It doesn't. It's

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pretty straightforward. This is one of the things when you

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sit through enough actual court trials and I don't know

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what that number is. It's probably different for everybody, but

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I've sat through several in my earlier days as a reporter,

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and the stuff that you learn in the trial and

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the motive that gets laid out for the jury is

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oftentimes bizarre because the rational, logical people looking at the

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evidence and listening to this ridiculous plan or motive, and

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you're just like, why would you do that? That's stupid

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and I'll never forget. There was a prosecutor, I believe

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it may have been Gentry Claudill in the ray Caruth

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trial when he said, don't blame us for ray Caruth's plan.

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We didn't come up with the plan, but this was

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the plan. It was stupid, but that was his plan.

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And that's I think what people have to kind of

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come to terms with on this is like, this does

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appear to be the case. You may not understand it,

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but all of the evidence supports this idea that he

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killed Charlie Kirk in order to satisfy his boyfriend to

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make his pain go away. Right, he adopted that pain.

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US House yesterday voted to pass a bill that could

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imprison healthcare providers for providing.

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Speaker 1: This is CNN. Okay, should I should have said that first?

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It's why written so poorly as it is? Okay, so

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let me rerack this. CNN reports the House on Wednesday

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voted to pass a bill that could imprison healthcare providers

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for providing gender affirming care for minors. It's not gender affirming,

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it's gender denying or And I heard RFK Jr. Did

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a statement. It wasn't a press conference because I don't

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think he took any questions, but Vince Cokeley carried it

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live when he was making the comments, and so I

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was listening and he kept referring to it as gender

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rejecting surgeries and treatments. Yeah, it's not care. You're not

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providing health care. I mean, you can go the other

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direction here too, like CNN is telling us. You know,

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when they see this is what it means when you

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control the cultural institutions in a society. And that's part

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of why Trump has prompted so many people's brains to

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break on the left. And don't get me wrong, and

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I say this all the time, Trump derangement syndrome. It

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afflicts people on the right as well. You can't it

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happens when you can't see anything else except through this

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prism of Trump. Okay, but this is one of the

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reasons why the left has gone so bonkers in the

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Trump era. Is that a couple of different things have

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all sort of collided at once, and Trump is the

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avatar of it. I've said this from the beginning. He's

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not the cause. He is a symptom of this collision.

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And part of it is the erosion of cultural institutional

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control by the left right. They have been able to

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dominate the cultural institutions for so long they don't know

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what losing feels like. And when people, uh, COVID was

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part of this right, when people started seeing what the

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media and democrats, but I repeat myself, when they started

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seeing what the left was doing and the you know,

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the medical professionals and all. Like, one of the biggest

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moments in the in the COVID era or error was

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when all of the doctors came out and signed that letter.

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Remember I don't even remember how many there were, was

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like a thousand doctors. There's some ridiculous amount of doctors

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who came out and they were like, we know it's COVID,

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we know you're on lockdown, we know you're not allowed

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to go to the hospital to visit your dying father.

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We know you can't hold a funeral with more than

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ten people. Right, they gave us all these restrictions, But

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then when the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful riots

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broke out, they were like, no, no, no, this is fine.

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Racism is a bigger health threat than COVID. They literally

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wrote a letter that said that, so, like, go out

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to the streets, get yourself tear gassed, so you're like

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hacking and coughing all over the place, That's all fine,

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because it's for it's against racism. When people saw this

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and they saw like the insanity of these policies, that's

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another focal point or another tipping point. I guess it

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would be this collision where it's like, you know what,

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I don't believe you anymore. And people lost so much

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faith in the institutions, in these cultural institutions because there

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were no guard rails these things. These institutions got taken

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over completely by a postmodernist Hegalian view and they just

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went nuts and they kicked out everybody. They censored people. Right,

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I haven't even talked about the big tech media censorship

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apparatus that was built up. So now when they try

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to craft narratives and they just in like and this

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is a perfect example of it. This framing. Whenever talking

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about transgender treatments, right, they're always saying gender affirming care.

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It's a euphemism. It's the preferred branding of the left.

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They don't adopt the preferred branding of the right, like now,

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like we hear, it's not pro abortion anymore. They turned

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it into various things along the way. Because one side's

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pro life, they've always been pro life. They don't feel

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the need to rebrand it's pro life. The other side is, well,

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what is it now, women's reproductive healthcare or something? Right,

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they keep rebranding it with other euphemisms to try to

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mask what it is that they are actually espousing because

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on the right, you know what, people on the right

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call these things, like when you're putting a sixteen year

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old in for surgery to eliminate their genitalia, you know what,

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you know what the right calls that gender mutilation. Mutilation.

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So the House passed a bill called the Protect Children's

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Innocence Act. This is for kids. Keep in mind, kids

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who are not allowed to modify their body in permanent

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ways via tattoos, but are allowed to ingest a bunch

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of puberty blockers, which they were originally were telling us, Oh,

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these are reversible, no problem whatsoever. You can stop taking

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them and then you'll go right through puberty. Yeah, that's

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not true either. RFK Junior also talked about the windfall

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for the medical profession that engages in these treatments, these procedures,

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because you've created a patient for life. They can never

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not require your medical services for the rest of their life.

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They will becoming to your clinic for their hormones for

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you know, problems that arise when the surgeries don't work

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quite right, like because you can't make a reproductive system

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in somebody. I don't want to be too graphic, but

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if you have not ever seen this what the surgeries

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look like in the aftermath they I mean, it's it's horrific.

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It's horrific. So the bill was sponsored by Marjorie Taylor

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Green of who I am not a fan, but it

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would make it a Class C felony to treat minors

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with gender affirming care like surgeries. Well, wait a minute,

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I thought we weren't doing surgeries on children, right, that's

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what we were told. There's a pattern. It's always the

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same pattern. It's this thing is not happening, and then Okay,

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it's happening, but it's not a lot. And then you

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get to the final stage, which is, Okay, it's happening,

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but it's a good thing. It's happening. It's always the

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it's always the pattern with this stuff. Voter ID was

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the same way. It's not happening. Okay, it's happening, but

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it's not a lot. Okay, it is happening a lot,

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but here's why it's good. Oh and also you're a

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bigot for noticing that's usually thrown into all right, if

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you're listening to this show, you know I try to

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keep up with all sorts of current events, and I

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know you do too. And you've probably heard me say

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get your news from multiple sources. Why well, well, because

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as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how

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stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. I got

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a message from Russ regarding the CNN language. He says,

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I'm genuinely surprised that CNN did not slip life saving

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into their gender affirming care line. That's true, I don't

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know why. By the way, the House vote on this

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bill yesterday was two hundred and sixteen to two hundred eleven.

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Three Democrats supported the measure, four Republicans opposed it. I

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don't have the Republicans that were opposed, but the three

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that were for it three Democrats were Vicente Gonzales, Henry Quaar,

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the recently pardoned Democrat, and Don Davis from North Carolina.

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Ahead of the vote, Representative Sarah McBride, who's a dude,

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criticized congressional Republicans as being obsessed with trans people. They're

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consumed with this and they are extreme on it. See

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it's always this again. Here's rule number two of journalisming,

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which is, when the scandal involves a Republican, then the

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story is the scandal. When a scandal, which this is

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all of this is a scandal, when the scandal involves

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a Democrat, then the story is the Republican reaction to

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the scandal. See when you notice the thing, the bad

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thing that's happening, and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's that? Like,

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shut up, bigot, you know it's not happening. Okay, maybe

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it's happening, but it's it's not a lot. Okay, it's happening,

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but it's it's good. From The New York Post, a

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peer reviewed study commissioned by the Department of Health and

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Human Services reports that the evidence used to back such

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practices as hormone therapy for kids is flimsy at best.

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Back in January, President Trump slammed the brakes on the

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medicalization of minors with Executive Order one four one eight seven,

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restricting the quote maiming and sterilization of patients under the

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age of nineteen, and part of that order was a

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study to look at the standards of care. First released

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in May, the report has now been affirmed by ten

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researchers and groups who found no faults with the findings.

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In other words, a peer review, and the report advised

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that doctors treating minors with gender dysphoria should focus on

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psychotherapy until more is known about medical interventions. Quote. They

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were given the chance to show mistakes, to show errors,

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and they were not able to identify any in the

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initial report. That's according to doctor Leor Sapir, a senior

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fellow at the Manhattan Institute and one of the researchers.

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Sapir stressed the initiative was bipartisan and an ideologically diverse group.

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Most of the authors, he said, are liberals Democrats. They

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wouldn't vote for Trump if he forced them to. These

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logical findings are a major pivot away from the last

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decade when our medical industry was captured by trans ideology

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and activists who rule like mob enforcers, canceling anyone who

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might even suggest gender affirming care isn't appropriate for miners.

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Debate and dissent on the issue was squashed on social

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media for years. This is a piece by Kirsten Fleming.

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At the New York Post Hospitals opened gender clinics from miners,

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and parents were manipulated into putting their kids on puberty

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blockers or cross sex hormones, or even getting surgery by

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clinicians who would warn them with something like would you

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rather have a dead daughter or a living son? This

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is what parents who had no idea what any of

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this was about. This is what they were being told.

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I always say this when talking about the transgender issue,

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dysphoria or dysmorphia. I have sympathy for people who are

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going through this kind of a thing because I can't

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imagine what it must be like to think that a

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part of your body doesn't belong, much like I could

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not imagine believing that you are four hundred pounds when

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you're actually ninety pounds and at risk of dying due

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to malnutrition and starvation. And I know the people who

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are you know, transactivists. They don't they don't agree with

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this analogy. But I've never heard a good explanation for

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why it's not appropriate. Because it's the same sort of dynamic.

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It's your brain telling you that there's a part of

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your body that is wrong, that something about your body

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is wrong. Your brain is telling you something that is

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not real, and that kind of you know, cognitive dissonance

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has got to be disturbing. There are people they are

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called transabilists. Since North Carolina did it's HB two, the

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bathroom bill, what ten years ago, I started reading a

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lot of material, a lot of the research on this stuff.

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There's a whole category of this kind of confusion, this dysmorphia,

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this idea that my arm should not be here. There

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are people who believe that they should be blind, they

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should be crippled. They can't walk, but you can walk, No,

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I can't. There was a similar kind of social contagent.

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People thought they were glass. This happened what two hundred

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years ago or something, and it struck the wealthy. They

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thought they were glass. They literally believed that they were

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made of glass, and so they didn't want anybody coming

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near them because they could be they could be shattered literally,

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And there was one doctor who literally beat his patient

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to prove to the patient, you are not made of glass. Reality.

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That was the cure and Eventually it dissipated and nobody

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thinks they're made of glass anymore. Doctors were threatened with

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the loss of their license if they did not know

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follow the protocols. Now like that period of just what

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five years ago seems almost like a fever dream, but

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it's not totally in the rear view mirror. Gender affirming

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care was actually a central part of Zoron Mamdani's campaign.

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New York's incoming mayor has promised to budget sixty five

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million dollars that the city actually doesn't have to turn

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the Big Apple into a hub for medical transitions, including

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from minors. Mamdani has vowed to coordinate with the New

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York State Attorney General and district attorneys to investigate and

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hold public hearings on hospitals that deny trans youth these treatments.

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They want to be a destination so people from all

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over the country can go to New York City, kids

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can go to New York City. Not sure if this

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law passes, not sure if that's going to be legal.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening. I could not do the show

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for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.