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Speaker 1: Hi again, Everyone's Brian Howie. Welcome to The Great Love Debate,
Speaker 1: the world's number one dating and relationship podcast since twenty
Speaker 1: and fifteen. We are here in the lovely studios of
Speaker 1: Pod Popular Podcasts for the People in Scottsdale, Arizona. We
Speaker 1: do a portion of most of our live shows where
Speaker 1: we talk about good ideas for first dates and I
Speaker 1: don't care what happened to relationship. I eighty five percent
Speaker 1: of first dates are drinks, they are dinner, or they
Speaker 1: are coffee, and those are all fine dates, but they
Speaker 1: all are essentially interview style dates, and they are essentially
Speaker 1: prison visitation interview style dates there with a metaphorical piece
Speaker 1: of glass between you. It makes people nervous. So we
Speaker 1: do section of the show in each city where it says,
Speaker 1: give me a date in this city that isn't one
Speaker 1: of those three things, and it's awesome, and people give
Speaker 1: us all kinds of fantastic ideas in each city. Some
Speaker 1: are unique to that city in summer or so general.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: That's what we do, and so I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to get into that a little bit today. And in
Speaker 1: order to do this, I want to bring back an
Speaker 1: old game that we played on this show about four
Speaker 1: or five years ago and we haven't done it in
Speaker 1: a while. And it is called good Idea, Bad Idea.
Speaker 1: And so you guys sent us a bunch of dates
Speaker 1: or things you do on dates, or things you look
Speaker 1: for on a date. And I have a couple of
Speaker 1: hopefully reasonable people joining me today to play a good idea,
Speaker 1: bad idea, and I hope this was a good idea
Speaker 1: and not a bad idea. They host their own podcast.
Speaker 1: It's called Homanity Brad Kimmelman and Bree McCabe, and their
Speaker 1: Homanity is sort of a lifestyle concept that celebrates the
Speaker 1: very best version of yourself and the world around us.
Speaker 1: Most importantly, they're sensible, and even more importantly than that,
Speaker 1: they're opinionated. Welcome you guys.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for having us, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do a little quid pro podcast meaning
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do their podcast and they're going to do
Speaker 1: my podcasts. But I chose to receive or to serve.
Speaker 1: So they're on the receiving end of this one. So
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. I send out a call
Speaker 1: to arms, I send out the bat signal, and I said,
Speaker 1: give us a sort of your current state of the
Speaker 1: date and what you like to do and how you
Speaker 1: like to do it. And I'm gonna read a half
Speaker 1: dozen or so of these and we are going to
Speaker 1: kick them around and assess whether they are a good
Speaker 1: idea or a bad idea. And they go in a
Speaker 1: few different directions. Does it makes sense you are judge,
Speaker 1: You are judge and jury on these people, so we
Speaker 1: don't have to agree. But there's some layers to a
Speaker 1: few of these. We got a ton of these, so
Speaker 1: we chose some that sort of aren't necessarily all three
Speaker 1: of us are gonna agree on it, and there's probably
Speaker 1: some layers to it, but we're gonna we're gonna kick
Speaker 1: them around and see what we could do here. So
Speaker 1: first one from Megan in Durham, North Carolina. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: I'm not bright. Nobody's going to mistake me for a doctor.
Speaker 1: I have platinum blonde hair, huge fake boobs, three inch nails,
Speaker 1: and I basically look like a pin up, which gets
Speaker 1: me a ton of attention, which I definitely don't mind,
Speaker 1: but I also want the guys to think there is
Speaker 1: more to me than that, So I always suggest we
Speaker 1: go to seminars on early dates, crypto house flipping, investing,
Speaker 1: all kinds of things. I usually tune out while we
Speaker 1: are there, but I think it helps change their image
Speaker 1: of me, even if we don't actually go. I think
Speaker 1: just the idea of bringing it up to them means
Speaker 1: I don't just want to go out for drinks and
Speaker 1: go home with them. Mixed signals maybe, But do you
Speaker 1: think it's a good strategy?
Speaker 3: Immediately?
Speaker 4: Now I immediately know really Meghan really well, so I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: You think it's a bad id. Let me break this
Speaker 1: down a little bit. She has a persona that she's
Speaker 1: putting out there. If you're like, I am putting out
Speaker 1: this pin up look, which I know a lot of
Speaker 1: women who do that. It's a certain look they're going through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're basically in character. What you're trying now to do
Speaker 1: is add a character to your character. Neither one of
Speaker 1: them is really you, correct, So why not pick something
Speaker 1: that if you're like, I want them to see the
Speaker 1: real me that is not just this, you know, playboy bunny,
Speaker 1: this sexual thing. Why not take away from the character
Speaker 1: and reveal that layer instead of adding on a layer
Speaker 1: that really has absolutely nothing to.
Speaker 3: Do with you exactly, Like, that's how I feel. I
Speaker 3: feel like if you go to the seminar in like
Speaker 3: I personal wouldn't pay attention. So I completely agree with you, Megan,
Speaker 3: like could not be me. But what do you do
Speaker 3: if you asks you about it and then you're like, oh, actually,
Speaker 3: I was totally just I just want to look smart.
Speaker 4: I have no interest in a seminar whatsoever. But I
Speaker 4: brought you here because I didn't want you to think
Speaker 4: my fake everything was right was me?
Speaker 1: Now, I do know some women who do do this,
Speaker 1: that they will talk, they'll study up and they'll talk
Speaker 1: about a half tone. And probably men probably do this too,
Speaker 1: that they don't have any interest in it because they
Speaker 1: think the guy wants to think they're smart. Trust me,
Speaker 1: this is a first date, Megan. He doesn't give shit
Speaker 1: that you're smart right or now. He'll find that out later.
Speaker 1: And if you want to reveal that over time as
Speaker 1: they get to know you, fine, But you are leading
Speaker 1: with a certain thing to lure him in. You're trying
Speaker 1: to play two different games at the same time, and
Speaker 1: neither of those are you.
Speaker 3: Exactly, So it's like, if you're playing to losing games,
Speaker 3: how are you ever gonna win?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: I agree. I think if honestly, I would just pick
Speaker 3: something that you actually care about. And since it's opposite
Speaker 3: of your first persona anyways, he's still gonna see like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a whole different thing. But also, like your first date,
Speaker 3: in no way, shape or form, should you like be
Speaker 3: talking about like what your college GPA was. Is there
Speaker 3: anything that would make you seem smart or not smart?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Because that's sound. It's about like I feel like you
Speaker 3: should just have a connection about like life in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's throwing their diplomas on the table.
Speaker 3: And if they are, like get up in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's some people that's all they want to
Speaker 1: talk about is I went here in grad school here,
Speaker 1: and you know this is what I did. That's fine.
Speaker 1: That's them. That's their blonde hair, fake boobs, whatever, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people do too. You're just trying to
Speaker 1: do too much, Megan, You're overthinking it. And if if
Speaker 1: what you're saying is I really am this Jessica Rabbit character,
Speaker 1: then go with embrace that, Embrace that, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're stupid exactly.
Speaker 3: I think those are honestly smartest people. They're playing a
Speaker 3: great game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. Those are actually fairly intimidating
Speaker 1: and they're confident. And then like, I know the look
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to. You're right, so trying to
Speaker 1: to dilute that and get involved in something. I mean,
Speaker 1: even if you were in I'm not sure a house
Speaker 1: flipping seminars are a really good date anyway. Listening to somebody
Speaker 1: else talk who's not either of you is just not
Speaker 1: a good idea.
Speaker 3: I'm just like picturing like those big ballrooms with like
Speaker 3: the un comfy chairs and like the little plastic water
Speaker 3: cups and the people fanning themselves applying is bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about a network marketing event as your first date?
Speaker 4: That sounds really fun too. Let's go talk to other
Speaker 4: people that aren't so amway together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's wear name tags, which is actually kind of cute.
Speaker 1: I do like name tags on a date. I'm pro
Speaker 1: name tag on a date. But yeah, the environment is bad.
Speaker 1: You already admit you're tuning out. He can't wait for
Speaker 1: this to get over so he can get to the
Speaker 1: drinks and the nails and the hair and the rest.
Speaker 4: And all the other stuff she's putting forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it only the stuff.
Speaker 4: So I just want to send Megan to my therapist.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think Megan's stick with dance
Speaker 1: with what Brunya. This is a bad idea if you
Speaker 1: want to do that on your own time and then
Speaker 1: talk about these things if you think they interest you,
Speaker 1: or ask questions on the date. But you're not fooling him, No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: sense you can sit there and doodle on your notepad
Speaker 1: like you're really just a bad environment. It's bad. It's
Speaker 1: a bad learning is fine, ticketing classes fine. This is
Speaker 1: not that this is a bad, bad idea for me right.
Speaker 4: I think just the word strategy for a date is
Speaker 4: probably the key tell all about where Meghan's head is
Speaker 4: on this. I think, Meghan, there's I don't know you,
Speaker 4: but you seem like the least authentic person I've ever
Speaker 4: not met.
Speaker 1: Which which is there's some authenticity in that too, if
Speaker 1: you embrace.
Speaker 4: That, and I am the least authentic person you'll ever know,
Speaker 4: And that makes me authentic. But but no, I think
Speaker 4: Meghan needs.
Speaker 1: A final note. Bad idea, bad idea.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, bad idea. But I agree with you, Megan.
Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing for the first part.
Speaker 1: Yeah good, All right. Next this is from Ben. He
Speaker 1: sent it via our Facebook page. Brian two things. First
Speaker 1: of all, I asked a girl to a wedding on
Speaker 1: a first date. I thought I was. I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be fun. I didn't know too many
Speaker 1: people there. It was a work related thing, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I was forcing her into a pool of
Speaker 1: my family and friends. It was outside on the beach.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great idea. She thought it
Speaker 1: was way too much. So my first thing is do
Speaker 1: you think that's a good date idea? And secondly, what
Speaker 1: did you think of the story about the couple who
Speaker 1: sent an invoice for the no shows at their recent wedding?
Speaker 1: Thanks you guys, keep me hopeful through the lockdown. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go with the second part of this. First, did
Speaker 1: you see that story?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, say so. For those of you who are not familiar,
Speaker 1: there was a destination wedding. I think it was in
Speaker 1: Jamaica or the Bahamas, and a couple no show and
Speaker 1: I think they RSVPs and then they didn't show up,
Speaker 1: so the couple sent an invoice looking to be reimbursed
Speaker 1: for the places the expense of that. My opinion on
Speaker 1: that was it was petty. Who gives a shit if
Speaker 1: they don't show up, You don't have to be friends
Speaker 1: with them anymore. It didn't cost you anymore if they
Speaker 1: weren't there. Like if they were there, it's the same cost.
Speaker 1: I think it was dumb. I didn't like it. Just
Speaker 1: don't be friends with them anymore. First, well, what did
Speaker 1: you think of that when you heard it?
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. I thought it was really
Speaker 3: like almost like borderline taxi, because bottom line, if you
Speaker 3: couldn't afford to have the wedding there, yeah, you shouldn't
Speaker 3: have the wedding there. I mean, we could have gone
Speaker 3: to Destin, Florida and saved a ton of money, and
Speaker 3: that would have cost you twelve dollars a plate. So
Speaker 3: it's like, I just don't think you can do that.
Speaker 3: Things come out. People can't go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're rude and assholes, but you can't bill
Speaker 1: people for that.
Speaker 3: If you bought the flight, that's different.
Speaker 1: But you didn't if you paid for their flight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if it was one of those where you
Speaker 3: paid for their flight and everything, like.
Speaker 1: You still can't ask because if you had to pay
Speaker 1: for their flight, they probably don't have it.
Speaker 3: That's true too.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: Either way, I feel like you just don't like people
Speaker 3: just don't show up. It's a wedding that happens all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time.
Speaker 4: Completely disagree with both of you, all right, both of you.
Speaker 1: I think that write the check.
Speaker 4: That thing brilliant. Okay, brilliant. Sorry, if you show up
Speaker 4: for ten ten minutes late for dinner for me, I
Speaker 4: expect an apology note. Okay, so so, and and if
Speaker 4: I went through the trouble and and I thought enough
Speaker 4: about you to invite you to my wedding and pay
Speaker 4: for whatever it is that I'm supposed to pay for,
Speaker 4: which is fine. It's not about the money, it's about
Speaker 4: the courtesy. If you don't show up at the wedding
Speaker 4: and don't give me a heads up and just are
Speaker 4: a no show. First of all, you're right, don't ever
Speaker 4: talk to them again after you get there, unless unless
Speaker 4: they're unless you're visiting them at the grave or in
Speaker 4: the hospital.
Speaker 1: Does it matter the relationship to the if it was
Speaker 1: just like they were somebody you didn't know that well,
Speaker 1: and they got on the wedding list and they were
Speaker 1: like a work colleague and they didn't shove, or if
Speaker 1: it was like your cousin, Does that matter?
Speaker 4: Did they RSVP? Yes? Apparently did they not show?
Speaker 1: Yes, they deserve a bill.
Speaker 3: At the mailman and like get a little paid.
Speaker 1: It was a reasonably cheap bill. By the way, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that.
Speaker 4: It's not about the money. It's not about it's if
Speaker 4: it was twelve cents just it's it's about hey, buddy,
Speaker 4: you that was really really rude.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, my bad.
Speaker 4: That's it a phone call.
Speaker 1: Here's my venmo.
Speaker 4: Here here's the deal. I I once was showing houses
Speaker 4: to to this this client and they had me book book, book,
Speaker 4: book book, and then threw me a curveball. They wanted
Speaker 4: to go see this new construction while we're having this tour.
Speaker 4: That was the entire day, and they they distracted me
Speaker 4: and I didn't show up to show a five million
Speaker 4: dollar house and the and the listing agent was there,
Speaker 4: opened up the house and waited and waited and waited
Speaker 4: and I completely spaced and that was my bad. But
Speaker 4: that was it was, it was, it was. It was
Speaker 4: a mistake. No. I felt so bad that I because
Speaker 4: I don't do that right. I don't. I don't diss
Speaker 4: people intentionally, and he he got really mad. It was
Speaker 4: a text message back and forth where he's like, I was,
Speaker 4: I waited for an hour and a half and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, and then he said all it took
Speaker 4: would have tooken was a text and I wrote back,
Speaker 4: you're right, and then I didn't know what else to say.
Speaker 4: There was no but but yeah, I sent. I went
Speaker 4: on to Facebook. I found out where he went to college.
Speaker 4: I found out that he was a football fan. I
Speaker 4: bought him the hat and the not a football fan, golf,
Speaker 4: he's a golf fan. I bought him golf balls with
Speaker 4: his college emblem on it and a hat and sent
Speaker 4: it to him as an apology.
Speaker 1: I would have sent the listen that was really shitty.
Speaker 1: We were hoping you were there, you know, and then
Speaker 1: left it up to them to be like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: here's a better gift or something, which it just they
Speaker 1: made it about the money and it shouldn't be about
Speaker 1: the money it should be about. People are rude, people
Speaker 1: do suck, And I'm one of the people who believe
Speaker 1: that if somebody invites me to your wedding, that means
Speaker 1: you want me there on the most important day of
Speaker 1: your life. I'm going. I've been to weddings all over
Speaker 1: the world where I'm like, I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: your wedding. And if they didn't think it was important
Speaker 1: now or whatever came up, you definitely owe an apology,
Speaker 1: and you definitely should be made to feel like shit.
Speaker 1: I don't think the three hundred bucks matters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I agree on is completely passive aggressive. Yeah, however,
Speaker 4: it would feel so good to say to send a bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, reasonable, All right, let's get to the first part,
Speaker 1: which is the second part of this. I think asking
Speaker 1: somebody to a wedding on a first date is awesome.
Speaker 1: It's a fun environment, it's a romantic environment. Like he said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was like, come me at my
Speaker 1: entire family and make the person feel awkward. I think,
Speaker 1: go for it. You know, I've I've done that. I've
Speaker 1: been that, I've been a wedding date. I'm not the
Speaker 1: best wedding date because I'm probably not dancing, but and
Speaker 1: I'm a little introverted, so don't invite me. But I
Speaker 1: like it. And I think him asking a girl for
Speaker 1: a wedding date, he's right, she's wrong.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I think as long as it's
Speaker 3: not your family. I think if it's your family, that's
Speaker 3: a little bit awkward, because that's a lot if I
Speaker 3: barely even know your name. But I think if it's
Speaker 3: like a coworker or even like just like kind of
Speaker 3: a mutual friend situation, I think that's such a fun date.
Speaker 3: It's literally free drinks, good food, I mean.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a really good date.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's a hundred other people you can talk
Speaker 3: to if it goes bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if she tries really hard to catch the bouquet,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know, I'm gonna bik Oh, she really cares about.
Speaker 4: She likes it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are probably next?
Speaker 4: I I agree. And if she thought it was a
Speaker 4: bad idea, she should have said no in the first place.
Speaker 4: But don't go and then do a Monday morning quarterback?
Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Yeah, so that was really awkward. And
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not even sure it's a breaker if
Speaker 1: it's not. If it is a family wedding, it depends
Speaker 1: on your family. I one time got invited to uh,
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner on a first date. I was like, she's like,
Speaker 1: what do you do for Thanksgiving? I was like, honestly nothing,
Speaker 1: And so I tend to get those pity invites.
Speaker 4: What's a while?
Speaker 1: But she's like, listen, uh, because we were going to
Speaker 1: go out the next night. We already had plans to
Speaker 1: go on a first date, like the Saturday of Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and she's like, would this sounds weird? Would you like
Speaker 1: to come? There's a lot of people there. My family's
Speaker 1: big and fun and whatever. It was so fun. I
Speaker 1: didn't end up liking her, but I really liked the
Speaker 1: family and it was kind of like she introduced me
Speaker 1: this is our first date, and it was like a
Speaker 1: running joke and it was fun. You know. Again, it
Speaker 1: depends on the environment and all that. But but people
Speaker 1: just saying like, hey, let's just try this out. We're
Speaker 1: going to dive into the deep end of the pool
Speaker 1: together and see where we go. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything wrong with that.
Speaker 4: I think if it's a first date, it's not like, oh,
Speaker 4: will you marry me my family. It's it's I think
Speaker 4: it's a perfectly appropriate thing and it's a good.
Speaker 1: Way to dive in weddings. Weddings are fun. We all right,
Speaker 1: so good idea? Yes, yes, okay, all right, here's a
Speaker 1: good idea. Because I gotta pay maybe for somebody's wedding
Speaker 1: that I blow off. We got to take a quick
Speaker 1: break because I got to pay the bills around here,
Speaker 1: and we will be right back after this. And we
Speaker 1: are back. I'm here with Brad and Breed from Omanity
Speaker 1: and we are playing good idea, bad idea with a
Speaker 1: lot of dates suggestions, a lot of date ideas. And
Speaker 1: the next one is from men are men or men?
Speaker 1: Or Emmy and n E R. I think I like
Speaker 1: that name that the boys name or girl's name. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna find out second. I'm say guy Okay, I think
Speaker 1: it's a guy men or menor oh it is a
Speaker 1: guy okay.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old, just got out of a
Speaker 1: long relationship and before that I was married for eight years.
Speaker 1: I am starting to date again. And the one thing
Speaker 1: that I really do well that will really impress a
Speaker 1: woman is I am a gourmet cook and I am
Speaker 1: a specialist at cooking for two, which is actually a
Speaker 1: different talent from being a restaurant chaffer cooking for a family.
Speaker 1: The problem is, I would love to cook dinner for
Speaker 1: you is now seen as too forward, like I'm really
Speaker 1: inviting them over to kill or roofie them. That's a
Speaker 1: little excessive. I used to do this all the time.
Speaker 1: I assume not kill or roofie them. I used to
Speaker 1: do this all the time, and women loved it. Now
Speaker 1: they don't. I know you're probably going to say, why
Speaker 1: not wait till the second or third date to ask
Speaker 1: to cook for them? That's the problem. I don't do
Speaker 1: very well in other environments. I'm not relaxed, and I
Speaker 1: overthink it. I'm sure they would like me if they
Speaker 1: would just come over and try my strawberry caprace and
Speaker 1: pistachio pesto. It is out of this world, but I
Speaker 1: don't get the chance. I think it's still a wholesome
Speaker 1: date do. I just keep asking, and I hope the
Speaker 1: right girl says that sounds terrific? Now, men, are you
Speaker 1: are right? Women used to love that before they started
Speaker 1: watching too many Lifetime movies and many in too much dateline.
Speaker 1: The men you say, I'd love to cook dinner for
Speaker 1: you sometime. Was fantastic. The women would let Now, he's right.
Speaker 1: A lot of women are like, I'm not going over
Speaker 1: your place that quickly. Meanwhile, if you took him out
Speaker 1: to dinner, you'd probably end up at their place anyway,
Speaker 1: So stop it, ladies. You know you'd go over his
Speaker 1: place anyway. But it sucks that he can't do that.
Speaker 1: He's right, he should be able to hold off a
Speaker 1: couple of dates. Yeah, that can't be the only environment,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna have a little trouble anyway. Like the
Speaker 1: only time that you're able to relax is if you're
Speaker 1: flipping an omelet for her thoughts? Does he keep asking
Speaker 1: until somebody says yes.
Speaker 3: I do agree, it's the idea is super nice, But like,
Speaker 3: I would never go to a guy's house for tenner
Speaker 3: on the first day. I would truly think he was
Speaker 3: gonna like slip me something or whatever.
Speaker 1: Why we didn't used to do that?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I watch like way too much forensic files like
Speaker 3: all that, and I'm like, oh my god, you could
Speaker 3: be the next Ted Bundy. I don't even know. So
Speaker 3: I think that's a lot of people's mindset is like
Speaker 3: we're so taught, like be on the edge, like make sure,
Speaker 3: and so then we are and you mishap. She's like this.
Speaker 3: But then I would say, like, why don't you do
Speaker 3: like a cooking class, because then you could easily say,
Speaker 3: like you had fun, I would love yeah, and then
Speaker 3: you could say I would love to do that for you,
Speaker 3: because then you're like, Okay, we're in public. I like you, you're
Speaker 3: this is fun. You don't have to talk that much
Speaker 3: because you're literally cooking, And then that totally transitions into like, oh,
Speaker 3: I would love for you to cook for me at
Speaker 3: your house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great first date idea.
Speaker 1: It's a good for saying yeah, we bring that up
Speaker 1: a lot. Cooking classes good because you're both doing that.
Speaker 1: He can show and you can't man or you can't
Speaker 1: be a dick, Like that's not the way I would
Speaker 1: make it, like you could. You have got to dial
Speaker 1: back your your gourmet a little bit. But then you're
Speaker 1: involving cooking into.
Speaker 3: That, So it makes sense for why you would invite
Speaker 3: her over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it still is a sweet date. I
Speaker 1: do think if you ask enough women, there's enough women
Speaker 1: not like Bri, who will be who do not watch
Speaker 1: too much forensic There there.
Speaker 4: Are enough women out there who will jump at anything
Speaker 4: for a first date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a free and a free dinner.
Speaker 4: And a free dinner.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt now. So I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's a good idea. I think you should develop some
Speaker 1: other social skills and life skills. I think Bri has
Speaker 1: a better idea, the Happy Compromises cooking class. Ask that first,
Speaker 1: and then why you're the cooking class, Like, like, I have
Speaker 1: a dish that's different, you should try this, and then
Speaker 1: you're you're home free. I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: Manor needs a stress management tation class something to manage
Speaker 4: his anxiety, because if that's the only way that he's
Speaker 4: going to be comfortable around a woman or then then
Speaker 4: he's got bigger problems than whether or not you should
Speaker 4: cook them down.
Speaker 1: And you're divorced, and you're in a long relationship for
Speaker 1: for a long relationship, and you're married for eight years,
Speaker 1: So don't act like this is you're some specialists of
Speaker 1: cooking for two. You cooked for these two, So I
Speaker 1: don't know how many twos you cook for a little
Speaker 1: bit of a sidebar, and not to be flippant about this. Tragically,
Speaker 1: we're in Scottsdale, Arizona, recording this. Camelback Mountain is right
Speaker 1: out the window. And you heard about that the couple
Speaker 1: went hiking on a first date. That was a first date,
Speaker 1: which is a horrible idea. It's a horrible idea. A
Speaker 1: lot of women in Denver, especially, they love. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: As some woman said at our show in Denver, if
Speaker 1: we really wanted to go hiking, they should serve wine
Speaker 1: on top of the mountain. Anyway, it was like a
Speaker 1: blind date. She came into town, they hiked Camelback. He
Speaker 1: had done it a million times. Half way up, she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good, and he let her go back
Speaker 1: down the mountain. He continued to the top.
Speaker 4: And she died. Yeah, it's a really bad first date.
Speaker 1: It's a bad first date. I don't like it. Now
Speaker 1: in the stories, now they're referring to him as the boyfriend.
Speaker 1: The boyfriend is not a suspect. I'm like, he's not
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. He's a first date. And he's a shitty
Speaker 1: first date.
Speaker 4: He's a shitty person person.
Speaker 3: If you've already done it, the view is the same.
Speaker 3: That's also the same view you can get from like
Speaker 3: half of the houses in Paradise Valley.
Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar with Scottsdale, Arizona in July
Speaker 1: when this happened, it's the surface of the sun. It's
Speaker 1: like a million degrees. It is really rough, and he
Speaker 1: should have known as somebody who's experienced, like if somebody
Speaker 1: doesn't feel well and you still have to get back down,
Speaker 1: and he's a cop paramedic something like that, He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll see at the bottom. And she wanted off and she.
Speaker 3: Died and terrible date without water I know, which. I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's like, were you took Yeah, I'm like, were you
Speaker 3: trying to set her up? Like, first off, you asked
Speaker 3: me to hike camel back for a date. That's a
Speaker 3: red flag. That is a huge red flag.
Speaker 1: Why isn't it?
Speaker 4: It's not the outdoorsy.
Speaker 3: I did a hike in Hawaii and I nearly I
Speaker 3: saw Jesus halfway through. I was like, oh, she please
Speaker 3: take me. But I'm so serious. I would really be thinking,
Speaker 3: like why do you want to see me?
Speaker 1: Like literally in your dead wet weddy, dirty.
Speaker 3: Panting one hundred and twenty degrees and.
Speaker 1: Then be surprised at how many people like that. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 4: If it's still attracted, then then the rest is going
Speaker 4: to be all, yeah, somebody's.
Speaker 1: Let and you know, maybe maybe he's like, you go
Speaker 1: first and he can check out her ass. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the incentive is do that. They could have
Speaker 1: done a million other things. They didn't really know each other.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. And then she died so he didn't
Speaker 1: kill her, but he didn't help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't. It's the like you go back to
Speaker 3: the car, I'm going to finish it. Why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then what I would be like, you're a dick.
Speaker 1: Then even if she moved to the bottom, you were
Speaker 1: never seeing her again.
Speaker 3: I would have been on the next flight by the time.
Speaker 4: Didn't even give her the car keys, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's publish. This is all Yeah, it was all bad.
Speaker 1: He was bad. He should be charged with something, and
Speaker 1: I don't like any of it.
Speaker 4: If you want to incorporate camel back into your into
Speaker 4: your first date, go have drinks at sanctuary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take pictures, yes, lovely to look at, but I'm
Speaker 1: not not hiking it for day I'm not hiking for day,
Speaker 1: all right? Sorry manor sorry sidebar. We lumped you in
Speaker 1: with the We lumped the dinner cooking man in with
Speaker 1: the bad hiker. You're not the same, even though there's
Speaker 1: cutlery and all sorts of things.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Next one Caroline via our Instagram. She said it, Uh,
Speaker 1: do you know that show Zoe's Extraordinary Playlists?
Speaker 4: Yes, one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Okay, good because I don't really know it, but I
Speaker 1: kind of know what it's about. She goes, that's pretty
Speaker 1: much my brain. I always want music playing. I want
Speaker 1: my entire life to be a musical, so I think
Speaker 1: the best dates need to have music involved, concert, jazz, club,
Speaker 1: even taking guitar lessons together. The problem is most guys
Speaker 1: want to do two things, talk to me and then
Speaker 1: sleep with me, or maybe just talk to me in
Speaker 1: order to sleep with me, So it's really just one thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: there can be music playing during both of those things,
Speaker 1: but I really want to focus on the music and
Speaker 1: they want to focus on other things. If they want
Speaker 1: to know me and like me, they should plan dates
Speaker 1: that will help them know me and like me, and
Speaker 1: that means music. So this is somebody who needs music
Speaker 1: related activities that seems narrow.
Speaker 3: I feel like so the guitar lesson, Yes, that's one thing,
Speaker 3: but like she needs a soundtrack. Yeah, I'm like, he
Speaker 3: wants to talk to you because that's the point of
Speaker 3: a day. Like that's how you get to know someone.
Speaker 3: So I feel like you have to find a compromise
Speaker 3: and do like a little of both where you can
Speaker 3: talk and listen to music.
Speaker 1: What happens on this show, she referenced, she imagines everybody
Speaker 1: singing and dancing.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Well, what happens is she has this extraordinary
Speaker 4: power that she can feel people's emotions because they automatically
Speaker 4: break into song about what they're feeling at any given moment,
Speaker 4: and then she has insight into their soul and then
Speaker 4: she can help them through whatever it is that she's
Speaker 4: going through. So this is a power that.
Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like Caroline has that.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: If you need to see I feel like the music
Speaker 1: that you need a distraction because you have some nervous
Speaker 1: anxiety that you can't just be me and you and
Speaker 1: the sound is us. I think that's the issue here.
Speaker 4: And it sounds like Carolyne has gotten dumped a lot
Speaker 4: after she's slept with someone once or twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right on that too, And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure the music is going to change things either.
Speaker 1: You can put them very white and do whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. You always want music when you want
Speaker 1: to do music, really activity playing activities. I get that
Speaker 1: that would be not too stereotype it. He'd be like,
Speaker 1: I always want something. I always want the game on
Speaker 1: in the background, I mean background music, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and having it's just a very narrow path that you
Speaker 1: want to go on because you perceive that as your
Speaker 1: comfort zone. Well, most relationships success, and most things are
Speaker 1: and go somewhere I believe happened outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: So the guy who's going to be the guy is
Speaker 1: going to be the one who's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't even think there was music playing. I just
Speaker 1: it was just us. And I think you want that
Speaker 1: constantly bringing in this this crutch of music. I like,
Speaker 1: you know, most people do like music, but it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of people like, oh, I want to go
Speaker 1: to a concert on dates, well you can't really talk,
Speaker 1: you don't really get to know each other, and some
Speaker 1: people just don't want to get to know each other.
Speaker 1: I don't know I agree with that.
Speaker 3: I feel like if the music can be a side
Speaker 3: character almost to it, Like if you did like a
Speaker 3: like a piano bar or something where it's still YouTube,
Speaker 3: but you have that music there in case it's like,
Speaker 3: oh this is horrible, you could easily shift and just listen.
Speaker 3: But it's like if you're going to a concert or
Speaker 3: something like, then we're just two strangers awkwardly standing next
Speaker 3: to each other, and then we leave and don't know
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: Dial the music back as a character in this scene. Yea,
Speaker 1: as little as possible. I used to back in the
Speaker 1: day world enough to remember there was a virgin, Virgin megastore.
Speaker 1: I'm pointing to bad for sure, the Virgin megastores, remember those.
Speaker 1: There was one Times Square where it was just records,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. And I lived for a decade like
Speaker 1: a block from Times Square, and what I would like
Speaker 1: to do is I would go over and they had
Speaker 1: the headphones there before we were all germophobes, and you
Speaker 1: could just put on try different, hit the buttons, and
Speaker 1: listen to different music. And I did that once on
Speaker 1: a date and I thought it was awesome, And she
Speaker 1: was like, come listen to this and listen to that,
Speaker 1: and it was it was like exploring a record store
Speaker 1: and there's music playing. It was really really fun thing,
Speaker 1: mostly because it showed me personality. Yeah, and you shared
Speaker 1: that personality, and the music was sort of a window
Speaker 1: to what they liked and didn't like and how much
Speaker 1: fun we had it with a cheap date. But it
Speaker 1: was a really good time. And so that was something
Speaker 1: that was like an activity that involved the music. Not
Speaker 1: the music needs to overwhelm the activity.
Speaker 4: I agree. I think Caroline, if she's so stuck on
Speaker 4: the music, she should go and find she should go
Speaker 4: and and and get a job in a record store
Speaker 4: or or or or go and take music classes and
Speaker 4: meet other people who are obsessive about music, right, because
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like she's gonna let go of that.
Speaker 4: That's that's how she defines herself.
Speaker 1: Needs to figure out why she needs to meet it.
Speaker 4: Well again, yeah, I have a great therapist call me.
Speaker 4: It sounds like all these people who are writing in
Speaker 4: have some issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the worst issue to have. It's just
Speaker 1: like if you always need music playing, you know, some
Speaker 1: people got to do certain things to sleep. I get it.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't rule out the guy just because he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a concert, Let's go here.
Speaker 1: And if there happens to be a piano player, like,
Speaker 1: that's lower the background music a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: think that's fine.
Speaker 4: And people do go on dates because they are looking
Speaker 4: for someone to sleep with, either short term or long term.
Speaker 4: But if that's what she's so afraid of, yeah, then
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, then just get friends that like music.
Speaker 1: I guessed it on a podcast once that they played
Speaker 1: music in the background the whole time and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like being in a bar. I'm like, it's so
Speaker 1: fucking distracting, Like what are we doing here? And they
Speaker 1: just had like a DJ playing and I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, okay, this can I'm like, can we
Speaker 3: just focus?
Speaker 1: I was like they liked it? I didn't, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: what do I know? All right? Next one, this is
Speaker 1: from Lee in Chicago. Love that here is not necessarily
Speaker 1: the activity but the action I want to do on
Speaker 1: a first date. And it does work great, even though
Speaker 1: it's risky. I bring a list of questions that are
Speaker 1: far more serious than you would think I should ask,
Speaker 1: but they usually bring laughter and fun, and Brian, I
Speaker 1: know that is the fastest way to break down walls.
Speaker 1: Before we have dinner or even have our drink, I
Speaker 1: tell her there are a few things I need to know.
Speaker 1: I start with what should we name our first kid?
Speaker 1: Then I moved to things like would you take my
Speaker 1: last name hyphen it or keep your own? Where we
Speaker 1: where should we go on our honeymoon? Where should we
Speaker 1: buy our second home? Risky strategy, Sure, sometimes it blows up,
Speaker 1: but the ones who play the aur game, we have
Speaker 1: so much fun with it. You I know your proponents
Speaker 1: of playful and hopeful, and this game is absolutely those
Speaker 1: two things. Just wanted to share it. It doesn't always
Speaker 1: work perfectly, but when it does, it's great. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I want you. It's
Speaker 1: it's there's a little bit, and she's like, is he serious?
Speaker 1: And don't act like ladies that you're not writing out
Speaker 1: to see what your name looks like with Howie next
Speaker 1: to it, because you are and a lot of girls
Speaker 1: do that, And what were our names sound like together?
Speaker 1: So he's just and she has to be like, because
Speaker 1: he's serious, it's a little impish there's no way he's serious, right,
Speaker 1: or where you're like, there's a chance he's serious.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's serious.
Speaker 3: I feel like definitely the way he worded that, I
Speaker 3: don't think he's serious. But I think on a first
Speaker 3: eight trying to figure out anything about this guy in
Speaker 3: the first question is like what do we name our
Speaker 3: first kid? I'm going to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I I think my goldfish died.
Speaker 4: Athletes Like what if.
Speaker 1: I said, I bet you didn't think you'd like me
Speaker 1: this much?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 3: I feel like that, like I will probably laugh, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if it would be like a h okay.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree, or it would be very risky. The
Speaker 1: one who rolls with it, I mean, like I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Roll with this.
Speaker 3: A good match for him?
Speaker 4: I agree, right, but he hasn't found one yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1: He might who knows what he does in second third dates?
Speaker 1: I mean he might show up with a baby care.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, you gotta see where you go
Speaker 1: from there. It's it's fun and it's funny, and we didn't.
Speaker 1: We did an episode a couple of years ago and
Speaker 1: it was I think we called it the twenty three
Speaker 1: questions that matter. They were not this serious questions, but
Speaker 1: they were designed to be playful. So he's playful and
Speaker 1: hopeful and you're there, and I'd like to see this
Speaker 1: whole list of questions. If those are a list of questions,
Speaker 1: where would you like, where should we buy our second house?
Speaker 3: I kind of like that one because I'd be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so we're ambitious, like we're gonna not.
Speaker 1: Our first past our second.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I would be like, good, so we're talking about
Speaker 3: like having this like big cool life. I feel like that.
Speaker 3: Or the honeymoon I would think it is funny.
Speaker 1: Or eating a picture, yeah, because I'd be like, oh, if.
Speaker 3: You say you want a honeymoon like Colorado, we're not
Speaker 3: meant to be because I would to be in like
Speaker 3: bor Bora, so at least we know, right, But I
Speaker 3: think those are funny. I think like the kid, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I I don't even know you, so.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but oh my god, so
Speaker 1: much forensic files do you see? And you're not alone?
Speaker 1: Most women I think are like that now, But you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been like that twenty years ago. You'd have
Speaker 1: been like, oh my god, this guy is thinking marriage.
Speaker 3: But twenty years ago, I would have been probably the
Speaker 3: victim of a serial color.
Speaker 1: So there's not this long history of guys in the
Speaker 1: nineties killing people. It didn't happen nor now it's it's
Speaker 1: still statistical outline.
Speaker 4: It's a couple of bad apples. Man ruined ruined.
Speaker 1: It for everyone, and Ted was a romantic first or
Speaker 1: second dater.
Speaker 3: That's insane.
Speaker 1: I need you watch forensic files. There's another sidebar here
Speaker 1: because I have some questions. Are you following the Scott
Speaker 1: Peterson thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just heard that he's supposedly getting charged with
Speaker 3: another one.
Speaker 1: No, I think he might get a new trial on
Speaker 1: the old one and get out. Well, I thought there
Speaker 1: was no doubt he did it. Whatever. The one who
Speaker 1: is leading the charge for his release is his wife's sister,
Speaker 1: and she's devoted her whole life to freeing him. I
Speaker 1: think she's in love with him.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think so too, and I just read it.
Speaker 1: I saw an interview with her and she's like, he
Speaker 1: would never do this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think he might, sweet and she was like, Dad, like,
Speaker 3: what what do you mean you would know? I think
Speaker 3: that's creepy.
Speaker 1: I think she's she's designed it alibi for him. She
Speaker 1: has this whole backstory and she's this I feel like,
Speaker 1: so I want to know more, Like were you always
Speaker 1: jealous of her? You're always in love with Scott? Have
Speaker 1: you followed this a little bit?
Speaker 4: You have not? But I pretty much feel like I'm
Speaker 4: caught up now and it's really not.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much I didn't know. I saw on the
Speaker 1: Today Show and I'm like, she's clearly in it.
Speaker 3: Like Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, like she's like falling in love
Speaker 3: with the person.
Speaker 1: Order right, both Menenda's brothers are married.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which that whole story is like really unfolding. Kind
Speaker 3: of crazy too.
Speaker 1: Not to not make you feel better about that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's hopeful for you great love listeners
Speaker 1: or not. But like they found love, but they only
Speaker 1: killed their parents, right, and they were probably bad parents.
Speaker 3: I gonna say, what's coming out about them? I mean,
Speaker 3: they might.
Speaker 1: Matter who you killed and why.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think if it's like a little isolated
Speaker 3: where I wasn't related to, you wouldn't have done it
Speaker 3: to me, right. That's different than like like someone like
Speaker 3: the Scarsdale that's from our neck of the woods.
Speaker 1: What happened there the Scarsdale diet. It was a rage.
Speaker 1: It was a passion killing, like he cheated on her
Speaker 1: and she was she did.
Speaker 4: Like blacked out and shot.
Speaker 1: Him, and then she did like seven years and then
Speaker 1: went back to a normal society life. Yeah, it seemed
Speaker 1: reasonable to the jury.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like a little mental break and fine.
Speaker 1: Right, she had a moment of passion killing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. So not to get to put all this
Speaker 1: dark energy into your sweet dately in Chicago, it's risky.
Speaker 1: Some she might be texting her friends like this guy's
Speaker 1: a fucking psycho. I think, like anything, nothing's going to
Speaker 1: work one hundred percent of the time. Nothing's not this.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a type of girl who likes
Speaker 1: your type of humor, go with it. I would have
Speaker 1: I would have a backup.
Speaker 4: I want to know what the gay version of that
Speaker 4: is is Like on your first dai, are you a
Speaker 4: top or a bottom?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, do you like question?
Speaker 4: But I think that gets asked anyway?
Speaker 1: Do you act so?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 1: But is it a negotiation? Is it a negotiable kind
Speaker 1: of topom?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Now, I'm old and I've I've been I've been married,
Speaker 4: for twenty four years, right, But that's not something in
Speaker 4: the past when I was dating right, we asked.
Speaker 1: How to just negotiate that.
Speaker 4: It just sort of you find out when you're whatever
Speaker 4: you're doing right and.
Speaker 1: Breaker.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can find somebody that awkward while you're
Speaker 4: finding out.
Speaker 1: I know, but there's got to be this awkward moment
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, we're both bottoms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: I guess then, is it a conversation or is it
Speaker 1: just is that the way.
Speaker 4: It works for some people? I think it does.
Speaker 1: But can people be talked into like you should really
Speaker 1: try this? If you were bottom with me, you would
Speaker 1: like it. Is that the way it works?
Speaker 4: I think? I mean people are now identifying as versatile.
Speaker 1: Versatile, Okay, I think that doubles your dating pool.
Speaker 4: I think so too is even better.
Speaker 1: We haven't done we haven't done a gay gay great
Speaker 1: love to be in a while, but I have some
Speaker 1: questions We're going to do that soon too. Yeah, versatile
Speaker 1: in any situation, it's probably good. Yeah. A lot of
Speaker 1: you people are who are writing in here very limited
Speaker 1: music and you're cooking, you need to be versatile.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of straight men would like to
Speaker 4: talk to their girlfriends into being more versatile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, sir. I agree. Versatility is
Speaker 1: an asset. Versatility imagination and getting out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: All you tops out there and just breathe, just breathe.
Speaker 1: It'd be over in a second. Check please, all right,
Speaker 1: last one here. This is from Michelle via our Facebook page.
Speaker 1: I was on your website and watched that brief highlight
Speaker 1: video which we have on our website from your tour,
Speaker 1: and it looks very funny. And one of the women
Speaker 1: in the clips says that going to a psychic is
Speaker 1: a great first date, and I totally agree. Or a
Speaker 1: palm reader. There is mystery, there is suspension of belief,
Speaker 1: there is faith, there's the unknown, there is nervous excitement.
Speaker 1: I love it. Do you know anybody who's done that?
Speaker 1: And how is it for an icebreaker? I do know
Speaker 1: somebody's done it, because I do know the girl in
Speaker 1: the clip, and she has done it. I love it.
Speaker 1: You are taking the gamble that the palm reader is
Speaker 1: going to read something very dark in your immediate future.
Speaker 1: You were You are really risking your dating fate on
Speaker 1: the palm reader. And I think some palm readers probably
Speaker 1: read darker than others, right, sure. I think you have
Speaker 1: to find somebody who's who understands what you're doing here
Speaker 1: and have fun with it. It's like, oh, I see
Speaker 1: a great night ahead of you on this line. I
Speaker 1: think it's a very very good fun idea. I do do.
Speaker 3: I think it's fun. I think it's different, and I
Speaker 3: feel like the way you take your reading says a
Speaker 3: lot about you. Like some people really take it literal
Speaker 3: and some people are like, oh, this is like a
Speaker 3: sham kind of deal. Yeah, and so I feel like
Speaker 3: it'll show you kind of how that person is, Like.
Speaker 1: We aren't go full Oiji board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no's like, let's save the Oigi board to at
Speaker 3: least a third date. I feel but I love that.
Speaker 3: I think that's so fun, super different.
Speaker 1: Are you a horoscope astrological person?
Speaker 4: Actually?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kinda.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you care what they are?
Speaker 3: We just had an astrologery on our podcast actually, and
Speaker 3: she completely, honestly.
Speaker 4: She blew her mind.
Speaker 1: Yep, there's a lot was it evaded? Yes, yes, yeah they.
Speaker 3: Know uh huh so and it was weird, like she.
Speaker 4: Like off a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yes, she knew too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we kind of like, oh interesting, and dates
Speaker 3: are definitely starting to line up from what she said,
Speaker 3: so it's crazy. Yeah, so I would like that as
Speaker 3: a day.
Speaker 1: Do you are you aware you gonna ask what sign
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 3: So I was in aries up until three months ago
Speaker 3: when she did my reading, and apparently I'm a Pisces.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Isn't it a firm calendar? Did
Speaker 1: we vote on this?
Speaker 3: No? Apparently it switches because it's not by like dates,
Speaker 3: it's by actual like days with the moon cycle.
Speaker 4: Oh so your sun's sign is your your your willy
Speaker 4: nilly astrology, like we we know. So I'm a cancer
Speaker 4: Leo because of my son's time. But in Vedic astrology,
Speaker 4: it's so much more than that.
Speaker 1: I guess lost a Vedic astrologer back on here. I
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned on this show many many times, I
Speaker 1: am a Scorpio and there's Scorpio discriminate and a lot
Speaker 1: of women will just no, not doing it, like uh uh,
Speaker 1: not going there. Scorpio and Gemini are the two that
Speaker 1: people some people who are into this that's.
Speaker 4: Are like brothers of Gemini.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, no, I'm not going there.
Speaker 3: That people have they have a wrap of being toxic. Yes,
Speaker 3: And I said that and the astrologer was like no,
Speaker 3: and I was like, m I might still stand by
Speaker 3: my decision.
Speaker 1: Right, it's a real thing.
Speaker 3: It's like just the energy. But I think there are
Speaker 3: they water signs. I don't really know that deep on them,
Speaker 3: but like they're just known like Scorpio scorpios.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have one good night and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: sting me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're gonna like lose it and like Gemini,
Speaker 3: same thing. I'm pretty sure I read that a lot
Speaker 3: of serial killers are Geminis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that that shock. I'm sure they had that
Speaker 1: un forensic files, but they I agree that's the direction
Speaker 1: that this could go. I mean it seems fun and
Speaker 1: a little bit of a you know, no offence palm
Speaker 1: readers carnival thing, which is always sort of light and
Speaker 1: I think, but there's a dark side to so I
Speaker 1: would be a little bit cautious about what you do
Speaker 1: with it. But I think good idea. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good, good date idea.
Speaker 4: I think it's a great idea because you go there
Speaker 4: and someone else is saying it's like, it's not like that.
Speaker 4: The question the very personal questions what we name our kid. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you go there and very personal things could come out,
Speaker 4: but it's not coming from one side or the other.
Speaker 4: So it's something that after it's over you can bond
Speaker 4: over and talk about and and dissect and and have
Speaker 4: an experience that and then yeah.
Speaker 3: You can exactly, it's a good conversation like that, and
Speaker 3: then go to like.
Speaker 1: Why did she say that about you?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want that either. You want to be
Speaker 1: like that was cool or that was fun, but it's
Speaker 1: it's an icebreaker. It's a before and I like it.
Speaker 1: So I'm Michelle. I'm a good ideaat idea. All right?
Speaker 1: That is it? Uh, that was fun playing good idea
Speaker 1: about it. Most of these are have some layers to
Speaker 1: them that but some of them I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you know, if you've sucked up, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody a little bit about Homanity.
Speaker 4: Well, Homanity is our podcast, and basically it is it
Speaker 4: is based upon my concept of humanity and home and
Speaker 4: humanity for me is just the act of being human
Speaker 4: and being and kind and aware and celebrating your best
Speaker 4: life and layering your life with whatever is good that's
Speaker 4: going to make it better. And a lot of that
Speaker 4: revolves around home, whether whether it's your house, your your country,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, some mindset, so lifestyle, more.
Speaker 4: Better moments than not better moments, even though there will
Speaker 4: be some not.
Speaker 1: Better moments, and people should date in that mindset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is actually crazy if we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about that with Brian on our podcast, so definitely listen
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