Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great Americans welcome this Thursday afternoon in
Speaker 1: the tri State, getting ready, of course for the Bengals
Speaker 1: and the Birds on Sundays, bigger than Montana. They have
Speaker 1: no flexing at all. They've got to win the game.
Speaker 1: They got to keep winning, winning, winning, and see what
Speaker 1: happens down the road. Also, a college hoops about to
Speaker 1: kick off in the big game this weekend, of course,
Speaker 1: is the Bearcats at Dion Sanders's Colorado. Buffalo's bigger than Montana.
Speaker 1: But Jonan, you and I now is Rob Sanders, the
Speaker 1: man who controls northern Kentucky with an iron grip. And
Speaker 1: Rob Sanders welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 1: first of all, Tony Bender is in the dark about
Speaker 1: Kentucky Issues one and two. He hasn't read much about it.
Speaker 1: He's going to have to vote pretty soon. Can you
Speaker 1: give us a capsule? Much like Constitutional Amendment Number one
Speaker 1: in Ohio, the Americans should vote no on that in
Speaker 1: Kentucky one and two, can you give us a capsule
Speaker 1: on each? If anything?
Speaker 2: Willie, thanks for having me back on and lord knows,
Speaker 2: I'll be happy when we get the selection over. Let's
Speaker 2: get into this real quick and try and keep it
Speaker 2: as simple as possible. The Issue Number one on Kentucky's
Speaker 2: ballot is a constitutional amendment to close a little bit
Speaker 2: of a loophole that we have had that it really
Speaker 2: hadn't been a problem in Kentucky, but it has been
Speaker 2: a problem in some other states. So Kentucky is being proactive.
Speaker 2: The Republican General Assembly noticed that our state constitution says
Speaker 2: you must be a citizen to vote in Kentucky. However,
Speaker 2: there is nothing in that state constitution that says if
Speaker 2: you are not a citizen of the United States or
Speaker 2: of Kentucky, that you cannot vote in Kentucky. So I
Speaker 2: believe there's been some other states. Virginia, Georgia comes to mind.
Speaker 2: I think there's a few other Republican controlled states where
Speaker 2: the Department of Justice has tried to interfere with the
Speaker 2: state's elections saying, hey, we know your constitution says that
Speaker 2: you have to be a citizen to vote, but there's
Speaker 2: nothing that says non citizens can't vote. So our Republican
Speaker 2: legislature is being proactive. They're going to try and close
Speaker 2: that loophole. The Issue number one would change our constitution
Speaker 2: to say not only do you have to be a
Speaker 2: citizen to vote, but if you're not a citizen, you
Speaker 2: can't vote. Seems like common sense to me, but apparently
Speaker 2: these days common sense has to be spilled out word
Speaker 2: for work.
Speaker 1: Now on that issue. Last night, I'm watching your good
Speaker 1: friend Kamala Harris, and the word salads were like at
Speaker 1: a Frish's salad bar. They were all over the place,
Speaker 1: making no sense.
Speaker 2: But one thing she did salad bar was that good Willie,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be going out of business.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I may lose my Frish's super
Speaker 1: big boy, take out the middle layer of bread. I
Speaker 1: want to save some calories and give me some onion
Speaker 1: rings well done. And on the side, if you don't
Speaker 1: mind a little bit of Coleslaw in addition to that,
Speaker 1: give me a cherry coke. And if you don't mind
Speaker 1: a hot fudge cake. Don't tell my wife about that.
Speaker 1: But I regress now she's willy.
Speaker 2: We just came up with a problem now that we
Speaker 2: didn't realize. You and I have been a hot fudge
Speaker 2: Sunday on the outcome of the presidential election. Of course
Speaker 2: I did not bet on the vice president. That was
Speaker 2: the horse that you chose. I bet on President Trump.
Speaker 2: But it's a hot pudge Sunday. Where are we going
Speaker 2: to get our hot pudge Sundays if frisis closes down
Speaker 2: and they all go bankrupt.
Speaker 1: I think Wall's hitching posts must have a stake. We'll
Speaker 1: take the place. We'll call it even because you owe
Speaker 1: me a dinner anyway, But you're trying to change the
Speaker 1: subject on me. Kamala Harris said last night that there
Speaker 1: needs to be a pathway to citizenship for all those illegals,
Speaker 1: something like twenty to forty million Moreitanians and Lithuanians and
Speaker 1: also Haitians. What happens if the Congress in Washington the
Speaker 1: Democrats won everything, House, Senate, presidency, they get rid of
Speaker 1: the filibuster, of course, and then pass the national law
Speaker 1: that says illegals become citizens and they can vote immediately,
Speaker 1: which is what the Democrats want to do. How does
Speaker 1: issue one interact with that? Give me a full report.
Speaker 2: Well, it would be in conflict with what they would
Speaker 2: do nationally. But I believe the states that there is
Speaker 2: precedent that the states control their own elections as long
Speaker 2: as they are not passing laws that discriminate on the
Speaker 2: basis of race creed to religtion that the states control
Speaker 2: their own elections. So if the states say you have
Speaker 2: to be a citizen to vote in the state, I
Speaker 2: don't think the federal government can trump that. Nevertheless, it
Speaker 2: would certainly create a legal mess if you have Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Doing the things they can to muck up
Speaker 2: state elections and to try and take over states that
Speaker 2: are notably not blue states, not liberal states. You know,
Speaker 2: the Kentucky's, the Ohio's, virtually every place that's not on
Speaker 2: a coast, and they would be trying to take over
Speaker 2: and hijack those states so that they can impose the
Speaker 2: will of the liberals and the big cities on the
Speaker 2: coast on US. I don't think we're going to let
Speaker 2: that happen. Willy, and hopefully God Willing and the Creektome
Speaker 2: Rise will have a good outcome in the presidential election, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, Willy, is only the third most important
Speaker 2: election on the ballot come November fifth, because as you
Speaker 2: and I both know, of course, number one is my
Speaker 2: election because I'm up for reelection. Fortunately I'm not running
Speaker 2: against anybody, so that number one I'm pretty sure I'll
Speaker 2: remember to vote for myself, and we'll check that one off.
Speaker 2: But number two is re electing Melyssa Powers. Unfortunately I
Speaker 2: can't vote in that one. That's all up to the
Speaker 2: good citizens of Hamilton County to make the right choice
Speaker 2: and make sure they keep us all safe, because anything
Speaker 2: that goes wrong in Hamilton County, because the size of
Speaker 2: the county number of people, is bound to influence everybody
Speaker 2: else in Greater Cincinnati. No matter what county you're in,
Speaker 2: whether it's Kenton, Boone, Campbell, Butler, claremont As, Hamilton County
Speaker 2: goes at least to some extent, so goes the rest
Speaker 2: Greater Cincinnati. So it's definitely important, I hate to use
Speaker 2: that ironic term, but definitely important that we re elect
Speaker 2: Melissa Powers and return her and her team to the
Speaker 2: prosecutor's office in Hamilton County so we have some semblance
Speaker 2: of sanity left in Hamilton County. We can't turn that
Speaker 2: prosecutor's office over to the lunatic liberals like the judges
Speaker 2: that they've been electing lately in Hamilton County. Third most
Speaker 2: important election is the presidency.
Speaker 1: Well, Melissa Powers. Hamilton County is fifty percent of the
Speaker 1: try state. Hamilton County's got about eight hundred thousand. And
Speaker 1: the Tri State, so to speak, whichever counties you include
Speaker 1: in the Tri State include Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio has about
Speaker 1: two million, and so you're talking about about forty to
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the whole and most of the crime,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, as in Hamlin County. If you
Speaker 1: do just crime, probably the crime at seventy five percent
Speaker 1: in Hamlet County. And he give the prosecutor's office to
Speaker 1: Countie Pillage, who's never tried a felony case in her life,
Speaker 1: who didn't have a law license until last year, and
Speaker 1: she simply wants to get on the ballot and get
Speaker 1: elected because it's a D next to her name. And
Speaker 1: I would hope suburbanites might say, and including black folks
Speaker 1: in the West and East End, who say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we can't do this to us because black Americans want
Speaker 1: the same law enforcement as white and brown Americans. We
Speaker 1: can't have an inexperienced county prosecutor who's never tried a
Speaker 1: case over another one who's been involved in one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand cases. I can't believe hamilic On you
Speaker 1: would do that. But I have my doubts move on
Speaker 1: to number two.
Speaker 2: In the state of Kentucky, Place Issue Number two is
Speaker 2: a ballot initiative that would amend the state constitution to
Speaker 2: allow the state to spend money on private school educations,
Speaker 2: typically in the form of vouchers. I believe that's how
Speaker 2: they've done it in other states. Currently, there is state
Speaker 2: constitution in Kentucky says that the state may only spend
Speaker 2: tax dollars on public education. This would change that, not
Speaker 2: to defund the public schools, not to take any money
Speaker 2: away from the public schools. That's not what this initiative says.
Speaker 2: What it says is that the state could help students
Speaker 2: that want to go to private schools, especially those that
Speaker 2: can't already go to private schools, could help them in
Speaker 2: the form of vouchers, so that they would have true
Speaker 2: school choice that they could choose any school, public school,
Speaker 2: private school. The part of the constitution that says the
Speaker 2: state is required to fund public schools would not be changed.
Speaker 2: Public schools are still constant tutionally required to be funded.
Speaker 2: That would not change one bit. The only thing it
Speaker 2: would do is help the poorer students in our state
Speaker 2: have an opportunity and access to private school education, which
Speaker 2: currently only wealthy families do because it is trust me,
Speaker 2: I know this from personal experience. Really, it is quite
Speaker 2: expensive to send your kid to private school. I know
Speaker 2: that all too well. But unfortunately there's kids that don't,
Speaker 2: whose families don't have the resources and the income to
Speaker 2: be able to fund a private school education. And if
Speaker 2: you're in a failing school district, which even though we
Speaker 2: have some very good public schools locally in northern Kentucky,
Speaker 2: not all of them are successful. Some of them are
Speaker 2: woefully failing to educate the kids, get them ready to
Speaker 2: head off to college or head into the job market.
Speaker 2: It would give any child of any economic background the
Speaker 2: opportunity for the state to assist them in going to
Speaker 2: a private school so that hopefully they can come out
Speaker 2: of that private at school ready to go to college
Speaker 2: or ready to go.
Speaker 1: Into the workhou.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: On that front again, Kamala Harris, And I'm told that
Speaker 1: Tony Bender may have a Kamala Harris sign in his
Speaker 1: front yard. I have my doubts, but he might say
Speaker 1: he does.
Speaker 2: He's probably the only guy in Boom County that does.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine there's too many about there everybody's going
Speaker 2: to know where Tony Bender was. Yeah, the one Harris
Speaker 2: sign in Boom County.
Speaker 1: Well, she has said repeatedly that she wants to get
Speaker 1: rid of these vouchers, which is hurting public education. And
Speaker 1: she says that if states don't ban those, what Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris is going to do is take away state funding
Speaker 1: for public education in the state of Kentucky. So in
Speaker 1: addition to Issue one, which illegals are going to start voting,
Speaker 1: now you got issue too, which is there goes to
Speaker 1: vouchers in Ohio. By the way, Ohio is a large
Speaker 1: voucher program. I know many families who send their kids
Speaker 1: to a different public school that's functional order a private
Speaker 1: Parkile or Catholic school. They get like eight thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year. All those programs are gone. If Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: wins the presidency and orders the Apartment of Education to
Speaker 1: put out a directive to all the state boards of
Speaker 1: education that you cannot have a voucher program, imagine the
Speaker 1: chaos in Ohio, Kentucky and Nan if that happens, I
Speaker 1: address yourself to that issue. Now, you got me all
Speaker 1: pissed off in this out and I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say. Imagine defunding private, prochial and charter schools because
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris says, I got elected, I said to what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna do it. How about
Speaker 1: that one, Rob Sanders.
Speaker 2: Well, for starters, Willie, nobody in the Biden Harris administration
Speaker 2: has done much of anything that they said they were
Speaker 2: going to do since they've been there. They haven't done
Speaker 2: a whole lot of anything for the last three and
Speaker 2: a half years. So I don't know that I take
Speaker 2: her all that seriously on anything she says. Nevertheless, I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that she would ever follow through with that
Speaker 2: threatn Here's why, Willie. There is no way on earth
Speaker 2: that she is going to defund public schools in states
Speaker 2: that have voucher programs. If that those states know that
Speaker 2: it's coming. And if you talk about states that have
Speaker 2: Republican governors, especially like Texas, like Florida, like Ohio, and
Speaker 2: those states stick to their guns and they say, no,
Speaker 2: we're keeping the vouchers. We dare you to unfund us.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the pushback? I mean, you think there's
Speaker 2: push back in Kentucky now about this whole issue too
Speaker 2: thing from the public schools and the teachers unions. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine the pushback that they would get, not just
Speaker 2: from Republicans, but from Democrats alike and teachers unions alike.
Speaker 2: And it would be like cats and dogs living together
Speaker 2: in terms of the alliances that would be formed. If
Speaker 2: she tried to carry out the threat to unfund public
Speaker 2: schools in those states that kept vouchers, I just don't
Speaker 2: see that happening. There's too many d's that are employed
Speaker 2: by public schools that are members of the teachers unions.
Speaker 2: There's too many rs that likewise work for public schools,
Speaker 2: whether they are or or not members of the teachers union.
Speaker 2: They would still rise up. Half of everybody in Kentucky
Speaker 2: is either related to a tea. You're married to a teacher,
Speaker 2: he's got a brother or a sister that's a teacher.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the way in all these other states
Speaker 2: as well. I don't think that, if God forbid, we
Speaker 2: have a President Harris, that she would ever be able
Speaker 2: to follow through on that threat and do away with
Speaker 2: the vouchers. It's really something public education should be controlled
Speaker 2: by the states, not the federal government. And that's one
Speaker 2: very good reason. Why. You know, if California or New
Speaker 2: York doesn't want a vouchu system, don't have a voucher system.
Speaker 2: But if Ohio wants it, then Ohio should have it.
Speaker 2: Socian Kentucky, and it should be local control.
Speaker 1: That's another reason to have Supreme Court justices that follow
Speaker 1: law and don't make law up. I think as long
Speaker 1: as we have a somewhat conservative Supreme Court, there's a
Speaker 1: good chance that action might be ruled as unconstitutional. But
Speaker 1: who knows. But a lot of things are on the ballot.
Speaker 1: And lastly, before I let you go, there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of reporting on the Scott High School principal. Hopefully
Speaker 1: I'm saying his last name correctly, Tony Pracaccino. I think
Speaker 1: I know your answer, but I'm going to ask the
Speaker 1: question anyway. There's been headlines in the Tri State about
Speaker 1: the Scott High School principle is under criminal investigation by
Speaker 1: Rob Sanders. What can you tell us about the Scott
Speaker 1: High School principle, this Procacino character, and what he allegedly
Speaker 1: did of anything.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Willie, I've never named the Scott
Speaker 2: High School principle because frankly, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: the Scott High School principal's name is. I know the
Speaker 2: media has named him, and they've been thrown around that
Speaker 2: same name that you are. I don't even know the
Speaker 2: principal's name. I do know this that there is an
Speaker 2: investigation by the Kenton County Police Department. They have informed
Speaker 2: of me about that investigation long enough for me to
Speaker 2: know that there have been no allegations up until this
Speaker 2: point of any felonious conduct. That means that if there
Speaker 2: are any crimes that have been committed, that they are misdemeanors,
Speaker 2: and if their misdemeanors in Kentucky, they're not my problem
Speaker 2: because the county attorney has to prosecute misdemeanor offenses. I
Speaker 2: only handle misdemeanors when they're connected to felonies in the
Speaker 2: Kenton County Police have told me, if we find a felony,
Speaker 2: we'll call you back, but otherwise we don't have it
Speaker 2: right now. The only reason I said anything in the
Speaker 2: media about this case is because when news broke that
Speaker 2: there was an investigation, all of a sudden, my email
Speaker 2: blew up, my phone calls, blew up, my text messages,
Speaker 2: blew up everybody wanted to know with somebody raped, with
Speaker 2: somebody sexually abused as he dating a student, that sort
Speaker 2: of thing, And I looked into it long enough to
Speaker 2: know that it doesn't involve anything sexual. If it did,
Speaker 2: those would be felonies, and that would be my problem.
Speaker 2: That would be my work. We've done that too many times,
Speaker 2: more than i'd like to count in the past, other schools,
Speaker 2: other places, other suspects. But this investigation, to my knowledge,
Speaker 2: as far aheads, no allegations of felonious conducts. So it
Speaker 2: sounds like he's in trouble with his employer. He may
Speaker 2: very well be in trouble with the law, but it
Speaker 2: won't be this office, and it's not my investigation. So
Speaker 2: that one I have already moved on from Willie, and
Speaker 2: that'll be another prosecutor's problem if it goes to prosecution
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, lie circle the globe before truth can
Speaker 1: take its first step, And so something like this arises,
Speaker 1: you immediately go towards sexual misconduct or something. And as
Speaker 1: far as you know, this early Thursday afternoon, there's no
Speaker 1: allegations this principal committed a felony. No allegations at this point.
Speaker 1: Is that correct, that's correct.
Speaker 2: No allegations to this point of anything that would rise
Speaker 2: to the level of felony. I can't tell you that.
Speaker 2: If the allegations are true, he's definitely in trouble, don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, But it's not enough trouble that he
Speaker 2: becomes my problem.
Speaker 1: Don't understand it. I don't know how principals and teachers
Speaker 1: get involved with the students in today's world. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: point out that at Deer Park High School. When I
Speaker 1: went there, my history typing teacher whose last name I
Speaker 1: will not use, openly dated a senior high school girl,
Speaker 1: went to dances together with her football games, And when
Speaker 1: we had our fiftieth high school reunion, walking in the
Speaker 1: door was that same high school teacher and his wife
Speaker 1: of some forty nine years, the girl that he was dating,
Speaker 1: who was a senior. They got married when she graduated.
Speaker 1: They're happy, they got kids and grandkids. In life couldn't
Speaker 1: be any better. Those are the may I say, those
Speaker 1: are different times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were different times, Willie, And I mean, we've
Speaker 2: had cases since I've been in office where it's come
Speaker 2: in a teacher having to relate a sexual relationship with
Speaker 2: an underage student. Some have gone to prison. All that
Speaker 2: I've prosecuted have gone to prison. There's been some I
Speaker 2: haven't prosecuted that other prosecutors have handled that have not
Speaker 2: gone to prison. But we've actually had cases where those
Speaker 2: teachers went on to marry their students, which we also
Speaker 2: called their victims. But it doesn't happen still today that
Speaker 2: a defendant will end up marrying their victim. It still
Speaker 2: makes my head spend, makes me wonder how anybody could
Speaker 2: get involved in that kind of situation. But times have changed.
Speaker 2: They're held to a different standard. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: the same things not still going on.
Speaker 1: It's going on. And I asked him because I knew him, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was here ahead of man, and
Speaker 1: I saw him and I said, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. I said, mister, so and so, how did
Speaker 1: you start dating a senior? He said, I went to
Speaker 1: her mother and father and asked permission, and they said okay, fine,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, whatever it is. It worked out, and
Speaker 1: God bless them, right, Rob Sanders, we got to run,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you cleared up the Scott High School
Speaker 1: situation insteadush you want And two and for those who
Speaker 1: have those Harris signs all over Boone County, I wish
Speaker 1: them well because they're wrong. But once again, Rob Sanders,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Rob,
Speaker 1: hopefully just before the election, will do it again. Thank you. Rob.
Speaker 2: Sounds great. Willie, thanks for having me on. I'll look
Speaker 2: forward to the next time.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Somehow you ask
Speaker 1: mom and dad permission and say, oh, that's fine. I'm thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: things have changed. I'm not sure for the better. Because
Speaker 1: if the mother and father say okay, and the seventeen
Speaker 1: year old girl says okay, and they've been married for
Speaker 1: at that point forty nine years and they got kids
Speaker 1: and grandkids, what the hell? Bill Cunningham News Radio seven
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