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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great Americans welcome this Thursday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 1>the tri State, getting ready, of course for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and the Birds on Sundays, bigger than Montana. They have

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<v Speaker 1>no flexing at all. They've got to win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to keep winning, winning, winning, and see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens down the road. Also, a college hoops about to

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<v Speaker 1>kick off in the big game this weekend, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bearcats at Dion Sanders's Colorado. Buffalo's bigger than Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jonan, you and I now is Rob Sanders, the

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<v Speaker 1>man who controls northern Kentucky with an iron grip. And

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Sanders welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, Tony Bender is in the dark about

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Issues one and two. He hasn't read much about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to have to vote pretty soon. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>give us a capsule? Much like Constitutional Amendment Number one

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, the Americans should vote no on that in

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky one and two, can you give us a capsule

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<v Speaker 1>on each? If anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Willie, thanks for having me back on and lord knows,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be happy when we get the selection over. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into this real quick and try and keep it

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as possible. The Issue Number one on Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 2>ballot is a constitutional amendment to close a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a loophole that we have had that it really

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been a problem in Kentucky, but it has been

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<v Speaker 2>a problem in some other states. So Kentucky is being proactive.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republican General Assembly noticed that our state constitution says

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<v Speaker 2>you must be a citizen to vote in Kentucky. However,

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<v Speaker 2>there is nothing in that state constitution that says if

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<v Speaker 2>you are not a citizen of the United States or

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<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky, that you cannot vote in Kentucky. So I

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<v Speaker 2>believe there's been some other states. Virginia, Georgia comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a few other Republican controlled states where

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice has tried to interfere with the

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<v Speaker 2>state's elections saying, hey, we know your constitution says that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be a citizen to vote, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing that says non citizens can't vote. So our Republican

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<v Speaker 2>legislature is being proactive. They're going to try and close

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<v Speaker 2>that loophole. The Issue number one would change our constitution

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<v Speaker 2>to say not only do you have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>citizen to vote, but if you're not a citizen, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't vote. Seems like common sense to me, but apparently

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<v Speaker 2>these days common sense has to be spilled out word

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<v Speaker 2>for work.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on that issue. Last night, I'm watching your good

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<v Speaker 1>friend Kamala Harris, and the word salads were like at

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<v Speaker 1>a Frish's salad bar. They were all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>making no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing she did salad bar was that good Willie,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be going out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. I may lose my Frish's super

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<v Speaker 1>big boy, take out the middle layer of bread. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to save some calories and give me some onion

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<v Speaker 1>rings well done. And on the side, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind a little bit of Coleslaw in addition to that,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a cherry coke. And if you don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>a hot fudge cake. Don't tell my wife about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I regress now she's willy.

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<v Speaker 2>We just came up with a problem now that we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize. You and I have been a hot fudge

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday on the outcome of the presidential election. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>I did not bet on the vice president. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the horse that you chose. I bet on President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a hot pudge Sunday. Where are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to get our hot pudge Sundays if frisis closes down

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<v Speaker 2>and they all go bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Wall's hitching posts must have a stake. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>take the place. We'll call it even because you owe

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<v Speaker 1>me a dinner anyway, But you're trying to change the

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<v Speaker 1>subject on me. Kamala Harris said last night that there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a pathway to citizenship for all those illegals,

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<v Speaker 1>something like twenty to forty million Moreitanians and Lithuanians and

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<v Speaker 1>also Haitians. What happens if the Congress in Washington the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats won everything, House, Senate, presidency, they get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the filibuster, of course, and then pass the national law

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<v Speaker 1>that says illegals become citizens and they can vote immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what the Democrats want to do. How does

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<v Speaker 1>issue one interact with that? Give me a full report.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it would be in conflict with what they would

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<v Speaker 2>do nationally. But I believe the states that there is

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<v Speaker 2>precedent that the states control their own elections as long

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<v Speaker 2>as they are not passing laws that discriminate on the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of race creed to religtion that the states control

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<v Speaker 2>their own elections. So if the states say you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a citizen to vote in the state, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the federal government can trump that. Nevertheless, it

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<v Speaker 2>would certainly create a legal mess if you have Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Doing the things they can to muck up

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<v Speaker 2>state elections and to try and take over states that

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<v Speaker 2>are notably not blue states, not liberal states. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky's, the Ohio's, virtually every place that's not on

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<v Speaker 2>a coast, and they would be trying to take over

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<v Speaker 2>and hijack those states so that they can impose the

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<v Speaker 2>will of the liberals and the big cities on the

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<v Speaker 2>coast on US. I don't think we're going to let

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<v Speaker 2>that happen. Willy, and hopefully God Willing and the Creektome

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<v Speaker 2>Rise will have a good outcome in the presidential election, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Willy, is only the third most important

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<v Speaker 2>election on the ballot come November fifth, because as you

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<v Speaker 2>and I both know, of course, number one is my

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<v Speaker 2>election because I'm up for reelection. Fortunately I'm not running

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<v Speaker 2>against anybody, so that number one I'm pretty sure I'll

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<v Speaker 2>remember to vote for myself, and we'll check that one off.

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<v Speaker 2>But number two is re electing Melyssa Powers. Unfortunately I

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<v Speaker 2>can't vote in that one. That's all up to the

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<v Speaker 2>good citizens of Hamilton County to make the right choice

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure they keep us all safe, because anything

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<v Speaker 2>that goes wrong in Hamilton County, because the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the county number of people, is bound to influence everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else in Greater Cincinnati. No matter what county you're in,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Kenton, Boone, Campbell, Butler, claremont As, Hamilton County

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<v Speaker 2>goes at least to some extent, so goes the rest

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<v Speaker 2>Greater Cincinnati. So it's definitely important, I hate to use

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<v Speaker 2>that ironic term, but definitely important that we re elect

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa Powers and return her and her team to the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor's office in Hamilton County so we have some semblance

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<v Speaker 2>of sanity left in Hamilton County. We can't turn that

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor's office over to the lunatic liberals like the judges

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<v Speaker 2>that they've been electing lately in Hamilton County. Third most

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<v Speaker 2>important election is the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Melissa Powers. Hamilton County is fifty percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>try state. Hamilton County's got about eight hundred thousand. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Tri State, so to speak, whichever counties you include

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tri State include Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio has about

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<v Speaker 1>two million, and so you're talking about about forty to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of the whole and most of the crime,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, as in Hamlin County. If you

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<v Speaker 1>do just crime, probably the crime at seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>in Hamlet County. And he give the prosecutor's office to

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<v Speaker 1>Countie Pillage, who's never tried a felony case in her life,

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't have a law license until last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>she simply wants to get on the ballot and get

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<v Speaker 1>elected because it's a D next to her name. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope suburbanites might say, and including black folks

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<v Speaker 1>in the West and East End, who say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do this to us because black Americans want

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<v Speaker 1>the same law enforcement as white and brown Americans. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't have an inexperienced county prosecutor who's never tried a

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand cases. I can't believe hamilic On you

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<v Speaker 1>would do that. But I have my doubts move on

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<v Speaker 1>to number two.

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<v Speaker 2>In the state of Kentucky, Place Issue Number two is

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<v Speaker 2>a ballot initiative that would amend the state constitution to

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<v Speaker 2>allow the state to spend money on private school educations,

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<v Speaker 2>typically in the form of vouchers. I believe that's how

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<v Speaker 2>they've done it in other states. Currently, there is state

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<v Speaker 2>constitution in Kentucky says that the state may only spend

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<v Speaker 2>tax dollars on public education. This would change that, not

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<v Speaker 2>to defund the public schools, not to take any money

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<v Speaker 2>away from the public schools. That's not what this initiative says.

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<v Speaker 2>What it says is that the state could help students

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<v Speaker 2>that want to go to private schools, especially those that

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<v Speaker 2>can't already go to private schools, could help them in

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<v Speaker 2>the form of vouchers, so that they would have true

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<v Speaker 2>school choice that they could choose any school, public school,

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<v Speaker 2>private school. The part of the constitution that says the

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<v Speaker 2>state is required to fund public schools would not be changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Public schools are still constant tutionally required to be funded.

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<v Speaker 2>That would not change one bit. The only thing it

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<v Speaker 2>would do is help the poorer students in our state

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<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity and access to private school education, which

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<v Speaker 2>currently only wealthy families do because it is trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this from personal experience. Really, it is quite

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<v Speaker 2>expensive to send your kid to private school. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that all too well. But unfortunately there's kids that don't,

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<v Speaker 2>whose families don't have the resources and the income to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to fund a private school education. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a failing school district, which even though we

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<v Speaker 2>have some very good public schools locally in northern Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of them are successful. Some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>woefully failing to educate the kids, get them ready to

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<v Speaker 2>head off to college or head into the job market.

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<v Speaker 2>It would give any child of any economic background the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for the state to assist them in going to

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<v Speaker 2>a private school so that hopefully they can come out

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<v Speaker 2>of that private at school ready to go to college

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<v Speaker 2>or ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the workhou.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>On that front again, Kamala Harris, And I'm told that

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender may have a Kamala Harris sign in his

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<v Speaker 1>front yard. I have my doubts, but he might say

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably the only guy in Boom County that does.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine there's too many about there everybody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to know where Tony Bender was. Yeah, the one Harris

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<v Speaker 2>sign in Boom County.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she has said repeatedly that she wants to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of these vouchers, which is hurting public education. And

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<v Speaker 1>she says that if states don't ban those, what Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris is going to do is take away state funding

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<v Speaker 1>for public education in the state of Kentucky. So in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to Issue one, which illegals are going to start voting,

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<v Speaker 1>now you got issue too, which is there goes to

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<v Speaker 1>vouchers in Ohio. By the way, Ohio is a large

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<v Speaker 1>voucher program. I know many families who send their kids

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<v Speaker 1>to a different public school that's functional order a private

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<v Speaker 1>Parkile or Catholic school. They get like eight thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year. All those programs are gone. If Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>wins the presidency and orders the Apartment of Education to

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<v Speaker 1>put out a directive to all the state boards of

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<v Speaker 1>education that you cannot have a voucher program, imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos in Ohio, Kentucky and Nan if that happens, I

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<v Speaker 1>address yourself to that issue. Now, you got me all

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off in this out and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Imagine defunding private, prochial and charter schools because

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris says, I got elected, I said to what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna do it. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that one, Rob Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for starters, Willie, nobody in the Biden Harris administration

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<v Speaker 2>going to do since they've been there. They haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>a half years. So I don't know that I take

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<v Speaker 2>her all that seriously on anything she says. Nevertheless, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine that she would ever follow through with that

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<v Speaker 2>threatn Here's why, Willie. There is no way on earth

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<v Speaker 2>that she is going to defund public schools in states

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<v Speaker 2>that have voucher programs. If that those states know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming. And if you talk about states that have

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<v Speaker 2>Republican governors, especially like Texas, like Florida, like Ohio, and

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<v Speaker 2>those states stick to their guns and they say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're keeping the vouchers. We dare you to unfund us.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine the pushback? I mean, you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>push back in Kentucky now about this whole issue too

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<v Speaker 2>thing from the public schools and the teachers unions. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine the pushback that they would get, not just

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<v Speaker 2>from Republicans, but from Democrats alike and teachers unions alike.

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<v Speaker 2>And it would be like cats and dogs living together

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the alliances that would be formed. If

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<v Speaker 2>she tried to carry out the threat to unfund public

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<v Speaker 2>schools in those states that kept vouchers, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>see that happening. There's too many d's that are employed

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<v Speaker 2>There's too many rs that likewise work for public schools,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they are or or not members of the teachers union.

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<v Speaker 2>They would still rise up. Half of everybody in Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>is either related to a tea. You're married to a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a brother or a sister that's a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's the way in all these other states

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I don't think that, if God forbid, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a President Harris, that she would ever be able

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<v Speaker 2>to follow through on that threat and do away with

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<v Speaker 2>the vouchers. It's really something public education should be controlled

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<v Speaker 2>by the states, not the federal government. And that's one

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<v Speaker 2>very good reason. Why. You know, if California or New

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<v Speaker 2>York doesn't want a vouchu system, don't have a voucher system.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Ohio wants it, then Ohio should have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Socian Kentucky, and it should be local control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another reason to have Supreme Court justices that follow

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<v Speaker 1>good chance that action might be ruled as unconstitutional. But

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But a lot of things are on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, before I let you go, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reporting on the Scott High School principal. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying his last name correctly, Tony Pracaccino. I think

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<v Speaker 1>question anyway. There's been headlines in the Tri State about

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<v Speaker 1>the Scott High School principle is under criminal investigation by

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Sanders. What can you tell us about the Scott

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<v Speaker 1>High School principle, this Procacino character, and what he allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, Willie, I've never named the Scott

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<v Speaker 2>High School principle because frankly, I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>the Scott High School principal's name is. I know the

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<v Speaker 2>media has named him, and they've been thrown around that

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<v Speaker 2>same name that you are. I don't even know the

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<v Speaker 2>principal's name. I do know this that there is an

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<v Speaker 2>investigation by the Kenton County Police Department. They have informed

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<v Speaker 2>of me about that investigation long enough for me to

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<v Speaker 2>know that there have been no allegations up until this

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<v Speaker 2>point of any felonious conduct. That means that if there

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<v Speaker 2>are any crimes that have been committed, that they are misdemeanors,

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<v Speaker 2>and if their misdemeanors in Kentucky, they're not my problem

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<v Speaker 2>because the county attorney has to prosecute misdemeanor offenses. I

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<v Speaker 2>only handle misdemeanors when they're connected to felonies in the

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<v Speaker 2>Kenton County Police have told me, if we find a felony,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll call you back, but otherwise we don't have it

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<v Speaker 2>right now. The only reason I said anything in the

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<v Speaker 2>media about this case is because when news broke that

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<v Speaker 2>there was an investigation, all of a sudden, my email

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<v Speaker 2>blew up, my phone calls, blew up, my text messages,

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<v Speaker 2>blew up everybody wanted to know with somebody raped, with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody sexually abused as he dating a student, that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, And I looked into it long enough to

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<v Speaker 2>know that it doesn't involve anything sexual. If it did,

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<v Speaker 2>those would be felonies, and that would be my problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my work. We've done that too many times,

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<v Speaker 2>more than i'd like to count in the past, other schools,

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<v Speaker 2>other places, other suspects. But this investigation, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>as far aheads, no allegations of felonious conducts. So it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like he's in trouble with his employer. He may

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<v Speaker 2>very well be in trouble with the law, but it

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<v Speaker 2>won't be this office, and it's not my investigation. So

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<v Speaker 2>that one I have already moved on from Willie, and

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be another prosecutor's problem if it goes to prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, lie circle the globe before truth can

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<v Speaker 1>take its first step, And so something like this arises,

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<v Speaker 1>you immediately go towards sexual misconduct or something. And as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, this early Thursday afternoon, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>allegations this principal committed a felony. No allegations at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No allegations to this point of anything that would rise

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<v Speaker 2>to the level of felony. I can't tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>If the allegations are true, he's definitely in trouble, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me wrong, But it's not enough trouble that he

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<v Speaker 2>becomes my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't understand it. I don't know how principals and teachers

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<v Speaker 1>get involved with the students in today's world. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>point out that at Deer Park High School. When I

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<v Speaker 1>went there, my history typing teacher whose last name I

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<v Speaker 1>will not use, openly dated a senior high school girl,

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<v Speaker 1>went to dances together with her football games, And when

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<v Speaker 1>we had our fiftieth high school reunion, walking in the

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<v Speaker 1>door was that same high school teacher and his wife

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<v Speaker 1>of some forty nine years, the girl that he was dating,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a senior. They got married when she graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>They're happy, they got kids and grandkids. In life couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be any better. Those are the may I say, those

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<v Speaker 1>are different times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were different times, Willie, And I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 2>had cases since I've been in office where it's come

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<v Speaker 2>in a teacher having to relate a sexual relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>an underage student. Some have gone to prison. All that

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<v Speaker 2>I've prosecuted have gone to prison. There's been some I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't prosecuted that other prosecutors have handled that have not

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<v Speaker 2>gone to prison. But we've actually had cases where those

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<v Speaker 2>teachers went on to marry their students, which we also

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<v Speaker 2>called their victims. But it doesn't happen still today that

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<v Speaker 2>a defendant will end up marrying their victim. It still

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<v Speaker 2>makes my head spend, makes me wonder how anybody could

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<v Speaker 2>get involved in that kind of situation. But times have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>They're held to a different standard. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>the same things not still going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going on. And I asked him because I knew him, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she was here ahead of man, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him and I said, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a question. I said, mister, so and so, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you start dating a senior? He said, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>her mother and father and asked permission, and they said okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, whatever it is. It worked out, and

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<v Speaker 1>God bless them, right, Rob Sanders, we got to run,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad you cleared up the Scott High School

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<v Speaker 1>situation insteadush you want And two and for those who

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<v Speaker 1>have those Harris signs all over Boone County, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>them well because they're wrong. But once again, Rob Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully just before the election, will do it again. Thank you. Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great. Willie, thanks for having me on. I'll look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Let's continue with more. Somehow you ask

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad permission and say, oh, that's fine. I'm thinking, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>things have changed. I'm not sure for the better. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if the mother and father say okay, and the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>year old girl says okay, and they've been married for

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<v Speaker 1>at that point forty nine years and they got kids

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<v Speaker 1>and grandkids, what the hell? Bill Cunningham News Radio seven

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