Speaker 1: Welcome to Beyond Birth Trauma, From Burden to Brilliance, where
Speaker 1: we uncover the powerful truth about your beginnings and how
Speaker 1: they've shaped your entire life. I'm Shannon o Flaherty and
Speaker 1: in this show, we're not just exploring your birth. We
Speaker 1: are dismantling the chains of generational trauma. We're diving into
Speaker 1: the core of who you are, peeling back layers of
Speaker 1: inherited beliefs and behaviors that have held you back for
Speaker 1: far too long. This isn't just about understanding your past.
Speaker 1: It is about reclaiming your future. Get ready to break free.
Speaker 1: This is Beyond Birth Trauma, From Burden to Brilliance, and
Speaker 1: your transformation starts now. Hi, everybody, Shannon o Flaherty here,
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. Uh. You know you've done all
Speaker 1: the work, haven't you, the therapy, the courses, the healings
Speaker 1: of So why do you still find yourself caught in
Speaker 1: the same emotional charge, the same reactive spiral, the same patterns.
Speaker 1: In this episode, I'm joined by psychic meditation teacher Sally Decessor,
Speaker 1: who specializes in helping women who've done a lot of
Speaker 1: deep work finally get free from the hooks that keep
Speaker 1: pulling them back. In Drawing on her own journey from
Speaker 1: a silenced, strictly religious military childhood to becoming a guide
Speaker 1: for other women, Sally shares her unique psychic meditation technique.
Speaker 1: She leads listeners through a live experience designed to help
Speaker 1: you step back from a charged situation, clear the energy
Speaker 1: around it, and begin paving the way for a more
Speaker 1: supportive future. In fact, in the last fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of today's show, she's actually going to be taking
Speaker 1: all of us through her process. So that's very exciting,
Speaker 1: So do stick around for that. You still feel stuck
Speaker 1: despite everything you've done so far, this episode is for you.
Speaker 1: Sally Duceesri is a transformational coach and creator of the
Speaker 1: Unshatterable Approach. Her search for a better way began with
Speaker 1: a moment she couldn't ignore, walking through her front door
Speaker 1: after a full day, only to find herself unraveling in
Speaker 1: front of her family. Not because her life was falling apart,
Speaker 1: because she was. We all know that feeling. She had
Speaker 1: been holding everything and everyone she felt responsible for together
Speaker 1: for far too long. Now, Sally teaches driven professional women
Speaker 1: how to build that safe haven within themselves so they
Speaker 1: can stop white knuckling their lives and walk through their
Speaker 1: front door as themselves again. We all know that feeling
Speaker 1: as women holding it all together for everybody, our friends,
Speaker 1: our kids, our partners, the whole world. So, Sally, it's
Speaker 1: so wonderful to have you here with me. Well, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2: And thank you, thank you very much for this opportunity.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, welcome.
Speaker 1: So, Sally, you work with women who've often done years
Speaker 1: and years of deep healing work, myself included, and yet
Speaker 1: still find themselves getting caught in the same patterns and reactions.
Speaker 1: So before we get into what you do about that,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear how you got to this perfect
Speaker 1: place right now, tell us about your beginning.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, And you're right. It is a perfect place.
Speaker 2: It's always evolving and it's getting better and better right
Speaker 2: the more we learn. But I did. I grew up
Speaker 2: in a really strict family. My dad was in the military.
Speaker 2: Both of my parents were highly religious, and as many
Speaker 2: of us may remember, this be seen and not her.
Speaker 2: Children should be seen and not her. The adults know everything,
Speaker 2: and you just don't speak up against your adult the person,
Speaker 2: the adult, the person of power. And so that left
Speaker 2: me voiceless, basically, And so because I didn't speak up,
Speaker 2: I didn't speak up to anybody, not even to myself,
Speaker 2: and so I kept everything inside, did what I was
Speaker 2: supposed to do, lived the life I was supposed to
Speaker 2: live whatever society you know, and family and everything, and
Speaker 2: I was not who I came to be and so
Speaker 2: or who I am now. And so now learning that,
Speaker 2: I thought, well, there, why would people Why would I
Speaker 2: watch people suffer like I did if I might have
Speaker 2: a solution for them. And so that's when I started
Speaker 2: sharing how I recovered from social morase, and that's why
Speaker 2: I'm able to live and be here right now.
Speaker 1: It's a really interesting point that you said that you
Speaker 1: were silenced and had no voice, but even to yourself.
Speaker 1: Do you want to expand on that a little bit,
Speaker 1: because I think that's a very important point That a
Speaker 1: lot of people feel that because they're towing the line
Speaker 1: for other people, their parents or extended family members, or
Speaker 1: their culture, situation, circumstances, whatever it is, it's keeping them
Speaker 1: in that box, right That's part about not speaking your
Speaker 1: truth to you is perhaps the most damaging part. Do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about that for a little minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the truth. I knew I wasn't happy. I
Speaker 2: knew the voice in my head even told me not
Speaker 2: to marry somebody who asked me to marry them. And
Speaker 2: yet because it was accepted, we'd been together for long enough,
Speaker 2: not wanting to disappoint and he's a nice person, I
Speaker 2: went ahead and followed.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: I followed the voice of what was in my head,
Speaker 2: not was what was in my heart.
Speaker 1: Didn't get married or you didn't?
Speaker 2: I did. I did, and I worked in a profession
Speaker 2: that didn't suit me either, and I would in the
Speaker 2: way to work. And maybe some of you have felt this.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you weren't as thick headed as I was, or
Speaker 2: as hard to listen, hard to be heard as I was.
Speaker 2: But I would drive to work and my heart would
Speaker 2: be breaking. And I was where I was because I
Speaker 2: was the primary bread warner winter many years of my
Speaker 2: married life, and I felt responsible, right if I walked
Speaker 2: away from my job, what would happen to everybody else?
Speaker 2: So I just did not listen.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting I when you say I mean I
Speaker 1: got married at twenty, because that was so intelligent, and
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew I shouldn't be getting married but
Speaker 1: I did what was like, I couldn't cancel a wedding. Now,
Speaker 1: my father would have been joyous if I'd canceled that
Speaker 1: wedding at the last minute, but I couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tune into that. The pressure was so great. God, it's
Speaker 1: like another whole life ago. That's so weird. That marriage
Speaker 1: didn't last very long obviously, right, because you're starting to
Speaker 1: wake up in your twenties hopefully. And then I called
Speaker 1: it ignoring all the red flags in my life. Because
Speaker 1: when you get a very specific, loud and clear message
Speaker 1: from the universe or otherwise the voice in your head
Speaker 1: and you're going yeah, but or you justify a reason
Speaker 1: or you find another reason to do it anyway, you
Speaker 1: end up paying for it emotionally, psychically, all sorts of ways, physically, eynically.
Speaker 2: We hold that tension. And that is actually what finally
Speaker 2: got to me, is not only was I that's what
Speaker 2: made me go get help. I should say the stress
Speaker 2: in my mind was I mean, that was my problem?
Speaker 2: You know, basically, that's what I had learned. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't go talk to anybody about any of your problems.
Speaker 2: Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Right. But it was
Speaker 2: when my body started to just cramp up with pain
Speaker 2: and I couldn't work properly, I couldn't do my job
Speaker 2: effectively that I had to search for help. And the
Speaker 2: funny thing was I didn't go for allopathic medicine. I
Speaker 2: first went to chiropractice, which back in the early seventies
Speaker 2: was really kind of off and in my family of
Speaker 2: upbringing because my father was in the medical profession in
Speaker 2: the military, it was really not part of the genre.
Speaker 1: Right, So I pardon me, you rebelling, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go find Yeah.
Speaker 2: Finally, Yeah, And that just opened doors down. You know.
Speaker 2: Chiropractical was just the beginning of my adventure into holistic health.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you start to look into healing yourself, whether it's
Speaker 1: in your mind, your body, your spirit. Eventually you'll get
Speaker 1: to the whole picture if you keep going. But it
Speaker 1: is really interesting because I think I grew up with
Speaker 1: the same message children are seen and not heard. And
Speaker 1: my dad, I didn't have the strict upbringing that you did,
Speaker 1: but and he always delivered things in a joke. It
Speaker 1: was funny, it was entertaining, but the message still lands, right.
Speaker 1: My parents were very performative, so there was a lot
Speaker 1: of funny humor, but the message how a kid receives
Speaker 1: it can be very different than how this in the
Speaker 1: same family a sibling receives the same message.
Speaker 2: So true, so true. My sister thought we had an
Speaker 2: idyllic upbringing. An eye on the other hand didn't. And
Speaker 2: it didn't make much sense to me until I was
Speaker 2: taking one of the classes i'd taken, and perhaps you've
Speaker 2: heard of RTT, but I was in Marissa's class and
Speaker 2: she was saying that one of her most profound sessions
Speaker 2: of hypnosis with this client was a woman came to
Speaker 2: her who had had a perfect life. She had grown up,
Speaker 2: you know, being doted on by her parents, had everything,
Speaker 2: and they went regressed and found that there was a
Speaker 2: one time that her father had spoken sharply to her
Speaker 2: and it wasn't even you know, anything that many of
Speaker 2: us here all, you know, on a regular basis, but
Speaker 2: it was enough for her sensitivity to be hurt and
Speaker 2: it affected her self esteem until she found that story
Speaker 2: out and could clear that. So we don't know, it's.
Speaker 1: Quite fascinating that the wounding because in working with lots
Speaker 1: of clients myself too as a therapist, you got to wait.
Speaker 1: You got to wait to hear what the client's going
Speaker 1: to bring you. And most people don't want to be
Speaker 1: angry with their parents. They don't want to blame their parents.
Speaker 1: They don't want to hate their parents. And maybe their
Speaker 1: parents were great, or they have them pedestalized, so they're
Speaker 1: not really tapping into what was wounding. I had a
Speaker 1: client similar situation, and I said, does anything particularly I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting anywhere with her, and I was like, does
Speaker 1: anything from your childhood particularly stick out in your head
Speaker 1: a recurring memory or something, some kind of trauma. And
Speaker 1: she told me that it was her fifth birthday and
Speaker 1: she was sitting at the head of the table and
Speaker 1: her birthday cake and everybody was laughing. She's like, I
Speaker 1: felt everybody was laughing at me, and she was so
Speaker 1: self conscious even though it was like a birthday party.
Speaker 1: It was a happy celebration. But that's not the way
Speaker 1: it landed for the kid. And it had affected her
Speaker 1: ability to get up in meetings at work as a
Speaker 1: full grown adult and express herself because she felt all
Speaker 1: eyes on her. So until we healed that story, and
Speaker 1: so you think about have any trauma in your life,
Speaker 1: No life was wonderful. Yes, yeah, there must be a
Speaker 1: reason that you can't get up in.
Speaker 2: Front of your office maids and speak up and say
Speaker 2: your piece. Right.
Speaker 1: So the rapid transformational therapy is what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: That was with disappears that any correct.
Speaker 2: Correct I started, you know, like I said, with the
Speaker 2: other people working on me right, like hiropractical and things
Speaker 2: like that, and then I started I was still having
Speaker 2: that emotional issue, you know, I mean, still emotional tension.
Speaker 2: I should say the physical was getting better, but it
Speaker 2: kept slipping back, but the emotional tension was still there.
Speaker 2: And a friend said, oh my goodness, come to this class.
Speaker 2: It's craniosacral therapy. You'll learn something and you'll get worke
Speaker 2: done at the same time. So I started taking some
Speaker 2: of those classes, and that helped me get in touch
Speaker 2: with my body. So I wasn't living up here all
Speaker 2: the time. I was learning how to read what my
Speaker 2: body was saying. And then I followed that all the
Speaker 2: way through with some auto emotional release and all the endeavors,
Speaker 2: healing from the heart, healing from the core, and worked
Speaker 2: up into the psychic enlightenment center. So I call it up.
Speaker 2: But that was just my progression. I shouldn't say up
Speaker 2: or you know, it all depends. But that's that's when
Speaker 2: when I learned to speak to my body, I got
Speaker 2: that empowerment because I was now in charge of how
Speaker 2: things were going. And it doesn't mean I still don't
Speaker 2: use a coach or a mentor and work with my teachers.
Speaker 2: It just means I know myself inside and out basically
Speaker 2: so that I can follow if it's true for me,
Speaker 2: because I might say something to somebody and it is
Speaker 2: my truth, you know, it is mine, but it's not yours.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how disconnected people are from their body.
Speaker 1: You know, our body is the container that our spirit,
Speaker 1: in our soul lives lives in, and all of our
Speaker 1: organs and all the rest of it. But it's the
Speaker 1: container that holds us all together. And when you're in
Speaker 1: touch with your body, in tune with your body, in
Speaker 1: active communication with your body, and in terms of also
Speaker 1: slowing down and stopping and sitting quietly and recouping and
Speaker 1: resting and sleeping all of the natural things, your mind
Speaker 1: starts to have a different relationship with your body. Because
Speaker 1: when your body is disconnected from your mind and your spirit,
Speaker 1: you're not working holistically altogether. Like it's like starting to exercise.
Speaker 1: It's such a bummer because you're like, oh, it's so hard,
Speaker 1: I can't do that, and it hurts. And then if
Speaker 1: you keep going just a little bit, then your body
Speaker 1: starts to generate more energy, more fitness. It hurts less,
Speaker 1: and it creates all of these other endoor fins and
Speaker 1: that kicks off all of these other things in your mind,
Speaker 1: and it's a whole working mechanism altogether. So I think
Speaker 1: it's fascinating that you started with the body. How did
Speaker 1: the childhood stress land for you and your body that
Speaker 1: made you go to a chiropractor?
Speaker 2: First it was my back, and it was my muscle tension. Right.
Speaker 2: I practiced as a dental hygienist for years, and when
Speaker 2: the tension in my back was making it so I
Speaker 2: couldn't feel my fingers and that's not gonna that's not
Speaker 2: gonna fly. And since I didn't have at that point,
Speaker 2: I didn't see another out. I knew I had to
Speaker 2: fix the body that I had. But I loved how
Speaker 2: you set Our bodies are vessels. Yeah, we came in here.
Speaker 2: Our soul said, Hey, this is the body I want
Speaker 2: to be in and we may wonder why this is
Speaker 2: why we're in this body, but it was a plan.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a mistake that our body, mind and spirit
Speaker 2: are are doing this journey together, and it's the balance
Speaker 2: that we want to hold so that we can heal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And to me, if I can just add, healing isn't
Speaker 2: being perfectly like the picture of health and always on
Speaker 2: and just go, go go. It's good inside, just like
Speaker 2: an undercurrent of satisfaction of joy, loving your body for
Speaker 2: what it is, where it is.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I'm a new grandmother, so my granddaughter
Speaker 1: is three months old, and we come into the world
Speaker 1: very much in our bodies. So babies cry because they're
Speaker 1: not comfortable. I don't like this position, I'm wet, I'm cold,
Speaker 1: I'm hot, whatever it is. And they communicate by letting
Speaker 1: you know their discomfort.
Speaker 2: They loudly a lot of other.
Speaker 1: Things going on in their mind because the veil has
Speaker 1: not closed yet on these little ones, but they can't
Speaker 1: communicate that. But we're very connected to our bodies as
Speaker 1: and if you watch a child, even toddlers, if you
Speaker 1: see them sitting, they sit with perfect posture. We learn
Speaker 1: poor posture, right, we learn how to not take care
Speaker 1: of our now truly align of bodies, which is really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just so so fascinating looking it's a good observation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really everything she sees in the world is a
Speaker 1: new thing, Like, wow, look at this, and I just think,
Speaker 1: what is she taking in? Like what's going on in
Speaker 1: that little head?
Speaker 2: Right? And it does give us a new way to
Speaker 2: look too. I mean, they're so fascinated. It makes us
Speaker 2: look again and go, what's so fascinating about that? Right?
Speaker 2: And then you just really look again and it does
Speaker 2: make a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is wonderful to start to open
Speaker 1: your eyes through the view of a baby's eyes again,
Speaker 1: because then everything is new and everything is a fascinating
Speaker 1: experience or something new to learn or enjoy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So who did you learn? How did you create the
Speaker 1: unshatterable experience? What led to that?
Speaker 2: It was an evolution, It it was something that it's
Speaker 2: everything that I've learned over the years put together. So
Speaker 2: we're supporting body, mind, and spirit over a period of time.
Speaker 2: Because and we focus on that individual's strongest need or desire.
Speaker 2: But I do pull in all all the stops and
Speaker 2: the reason for the name unshadowable, because a lot of
Speaker 2: people look at that and go, well, that's an odd one.
Speaker 2: But that's the way I feel. And I want people
Speaker 2: to feel that they can handle anything, whatever life throws
Speaker 2: at them, whatever they see, whether it's for somebody else
Speaker 2: or an experience that they're experiencing themselves, they will come out.
Speaker 2: They may come out changed, but they will not be broken.
Speaker 1: It's a really good point because a lot of people
Speaker 1: feel like they're broken. And if you're still walking and
Speaker 1: living and breathing, you might be heartbroken and you need
Speaker 1: to heal that. You might be grieving. That's another part
Speaker 1: of that broken feeling. But being truly broken or not
Speaker 1: truly broken, there's always another way to look at something
Speaker 1: and find the way through for you. You might not
Speaker 1: be deliriously happy, but broken is broken, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah? And what is that Japanese when
Speaker 2: they paint.
Speaker 3: The gold yes for the name of the word either yes,
Speaker 3: broken broken pottery, and then they fill the cracks with
Speaker 3: gold so that it's a more even more beautiful creation
Speaker 3: created from the cracks.
Speaker 1: In the original form. And I mean, well, I like
Speaker 1: to look at aging that way because we don't really
Speaker 1: have a choice in the matter. Right, We're getting older,
Speaker 1: whether we want to or not. So I just see
Speaker 1: that as like, well, fill in all of those gaps
Speaker 1: with joyousness and happiness and positivity and love. And that's
Speaker 1: all of the gold that I'm pouring into myself every
Speaker 1: day by doing all the things. And a lot of
Speaker 1: those things are for my body, so exercising, dancing, the
Speaker 1: hot salt bath every night, laying on my table, meditating,
Speaker 1: hugging trees, walking, whateffort is those are physical things, but
Speaker 1: they don't for me besides the hot bath, which is
Speaker 1: just that really works for me. But for me, they
Speaker 1: feel more like mental things even though they're physical engagements.
Speaker 1: I feel more that in doing those things, I'm taking
Speaker 1: care of my head, right, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I do, I do and it gets it gets the
Speaker 2: cerebrospinal fluid flowing and clears the mind. So you are
Speaker 2: actually physically doing something for your body, I mean, for
Speaker 2: your mind while you are experiencing that openness, that freedom.
Speaker 2: I think so many times we're stuck at the computer
Speaker 2: all day and don't take a moment to look outside.
Speaker 2: And I was I gotta a message from a friend,
Speaker 2: and I said, oh, my gosh, it was. I think
Speaker 2: it was just this past weekend, which is Mother's Day
Speaker 2: here in the US. And and I said, I hope
Speaker 2: you got outside. I knew her daughter wasn't in town.
Speaker 2: I hope you got outside to enjoy this. She said, no,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get this work done before the end
Speaker 2: of the semester. I'm like, oh my gosh, not even
Speaker 2: a half an hour to go for a walk, to
Speaker 2: look outside and listen to the birds starting to sing
Speaker 2: here in spring.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was very sad. So I kind of reprimanded her
Speaker 2: a little bit, just a minute. It doesn't take long.
Speaker 1: I live in the north of England, so when the
Speaker 1: sun shines, it's like, got to go outside because I
Speaker 1: think the sun might not be shining. So I've had
Speaker 1: to learn that the hard way over all of these years.
Speaker 1: I think, oh, beautiful, Marnie, Okay, well I'll go out later.
Speaker 1: But then later it's overcast and raining and I've missed
Speaker 1: my window. Because it's rare that we get full law
Speaker 1: long days of sunshine. So in this in between time,
Speaker 1: it's like, take it when you can get it. I
Speaker 1: can't go now, though, because I'm live on air with you.
Speaker 2: Oh, dear, Well, we're gonna pray that it stays nice
Speaker 2: and sunny for you for the rest of the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I hear those trees calling me for Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I love that the earth is telling you, Shannon,
Speaker 2: get outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm very lucky where I live. There's
Speaker 1: a river, park, flowers.
Speaker 2: It's just it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So that's important. That's important to me. And different things
Speaker 1: are important to different people. But whatever it is that
Speaker 1: makes your body happy, you need to do that kind
Speaker 1: of on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: Right, So.
Speaker 1: This meditation, psychic meditation technique, do you want to kind
Speaker 1: of yeah, tell us about it first before we go
Speaker 1: into it. Tell us, yeah, tell us whatever you want to.
Speaker 2: Tell us, whatever it is, right, right, Well.
Speaker 1: Go into it.
Speaker 2: When I came across this, my teacher, when I came
Speaker 2: across her, it made all the difference in the world
Speaker 2: to me how I managed because it it gave me
Speaker 2: something that helped me manage my that charge, that electrical
Speaker 2: charge that I would get in my body when I
Speaker 2: had a confrontation. You know what I would consider a
Speaker 2: confrontation coming up. If I had a tough conversation coming up,
Speaker 2: or or if my child and I my daughters, one
Speaker 2: of them would be we'd be fighting or something. How
Speaker 2: could I clear that energy inside of me so I
Speaker 2: could be the person that I wanted to be in
Speaker 2: that situation. And so when she taught me how this
Speaker 2: tool that I'm going to show you this meditation I'm
Speaker 2: going to show you guys today, When she taught me this,
Speaker 2: it was like a breath of fresh air because I
Speaker 2: could prepave whatever was coming up. So if I had
Speaker 2: a big event like today getting on this call with you,
Speaker 2: I could sit and look at it and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: calm down in my body, you know, and then let's
Speaker 2: see how the day goes. I cannot change you, but
Speaker 2: I can change how I react to you. And I
Speaker 2: do believe that. I think it's even yeah, it's quantum
Speaker 2: mechanics that says, you know, are electrical. We charge, We're
Speaker 2: connected to everything in the planet because we have the
Speaker 2: same three molecules in us from structure that the earth
Speaker 2: has that the trees have, and so we are entrained
Speaker 2: with them, and so any reaction that we have is
Speaker 2: going to affect every other reaction, every other being around us,
Speaker 2: and especially those that we have been connected with more,
Speaker 2: and so that's kind of what this is built on.
Speaker 2: It's smoothing that emotion within me so it doesn't cause
Speaker 2: a reaction in somebody else because my words may be
Speaker 2: fabulous and wonderful. Like your parents, you know, they were
Speaker 2: happy and kind, but perhaps that was a way of
Speaker 2: them their uneasiness being smoothed out for them. So they
Speaker 2: were joking, but inside they felt a little tense or
Speaker 2: tight around something. So that's what I want to share today.
Speaker 2: And one thing that I do know, and I'm just
Speaker 2: going to throw this little tip out that we can
Speaker 2: the reason we can do this short. I'll stretch it
Speaker 2: a little bit so we can really wallow it in
Speaker 2: a little bit. But it's kind of like like love making, right,
Speaker 2: it can be slow and long and luxurious. Meditation can
Speaker 2: be slow, long and luxurious or quick and fast, and
Speaker 2: you get satisfaction out of both. And so you can
Speaker 2: do this quick and fast and you're going to have
Speaker 2: the same effect. But sometimes it's just nice to sit
Speaker 2: in meditation for a long time and really feel everything.
Speaker 2: And I do find that I talk through the meditation,
Speaker 2: so that can engage your mind a little. But stay
Speaker 2: where you are and if you don't want to hear me.
Speaker 2: I always trust people's energy flow to do what it
Speaker 2: needs to do. So nothing is wrong, thing is perfect.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's exciting. And is this the the psychic
Speaker 1: meditation technique or is this the unchatterable.
Speaker 2: Well, this is part This is one of the things
Speaker 2: in Unchatterable that people learn, and so in Unchatterable what
Speaker 2: I do is we'll we'll work on a because private sessions.
Speaker 2: We can work on personal things using this technique. Plus more,
Speaker 2: this is like the basic basic technique that you can
Speaker 2: use right away. So we don't want to go into
Speaker 2: this using anything that's a childhood trauma. We want to
Speaker 2: kind of work on something that might be coming up
Speaker 2: in the future that you're nervous about, Like I said,
Speaker 2: an interview, a you know, going in for a new job,
Speaker 2: any kind of interaction that you may feel a little
Speaker 2: bit anxious about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to don't bring your biggest, deepest wounding,
Speaker 1: well said, right now, we're not going deep into the
Speaker 1: dark stuff. You can save that for another day or
Speaker 1: book an appointment with me or Sally if you want
Speaker 1: to really examine all of that. We're here for you. Uh,
Speaker 1: and get comfortable now if you're going to receive this healing,
Speaker 1: and I like to keep both of your feet flat
Speaker 1: on the floor so that you're not crossing any of
Speaker 1: your energy flow. I have some water if you need it.
Speaker 1: Always when I'm doing healing, I like to keep my
Speaker 1: water covered because water is a great uh trans transducer.
Speaker 1: That's not a word transmuters doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know what you mean.
Speaker 1: I need this meditation, right, So think about something that
Speaker 1: maybe you're just struggling with a little bit, nothing too deep.
Speaker 1: Or think about if it's a repeating confrontation that you
Speaker 1: have with people, because sometimes we know like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go beat that person. Oh it's so so
Speaker 1: difficult because which is partly our story, partly the other person.
Speaker 1: But whatever it is that you want to change the
Speaker 1: energy around right now, and then we're gonna let Sally
Speaker 1: guide us all through the experience. I'm going to participate too,
Speaker 1: and this is going to take about how.
Speaker 2: Long, oh max? Twenty minutes?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so take it away, Sally.
Speaker 2: Thank you, And like Shannon said, feet on the floor.
Speaker 2: If you need to put a pillow under your feet
Speaker 2: so your feet feel connected to the floor, go right
Speaker 2: ahead and arms and legs uncrossed, and take a nice, slow,
Speaker 2: deep breath in and let it out. And I'd like
Speaker 2: to close my eyes just because it keeps me looking inside.
Speaker 2: But if you do, keep your eyes open, just make
Speaker 2: your gaze soft. Just relax, and we're going to start. Oh,
Speaker 2: you know, Shannon, you mentioned how your mind enjoys being outside.
Speaker 2: I think let's start by noticing the center of our heads.
Speaker 2: So draw your attention to the center of your head,
Speaker 2: which is between the tops of your two ears and
Speaker 2: straight back in between your eyebrows, that area where those
Speaker 2: lines intersect, and that's the center of your head. And
Speaker 2: just notice that. And from there, notice your heart and
Speaker 2: feel how it feels for your heart to be noticed.
Speaker 2: And now allow your heart to expand to your shoulders
Speaker 2: and notice your mind. Allow your mind to settle down
Speaker 2: and be supported by your heart. And notice how that
Speaker 2: fields from the center of your head. Look down at
Speaker 2: your root chakra, which is at the base of your spine,
Speaker 2: and allow a grounding cord to drop down from your
Speaker 2: base of your spine, from your root chakra down to
Speaker 2: the center of the earth. And whether you can see
Speaker 2: it or not, just trust that it's happening just because
Speaker 2: you want it. Notice your feet. In the center of
Speaker 2: your foot, you have a two chakras, and you can
Speaker 2: open want them on each foot and draw the energy
Speaker 2: of the Earth in through your feet, bringing it up
Speaker 2: your leg channels, through your knees, up to your hips,
Speaker 2: to your grounding cord and allow it to flow down
Speaker 2: your grounding cord. So you're just running the earth energy
Speaker 2: and bringing yourself into present time. And as you bring
Speaker 2: in the energy of the Earth, you're bringing in the nourishment.
Speaker 2: And then as it goes down your ground cord, it's
Speaker 2: inviting anything that doesn't serve you, any energy you've been
Speaker 2: carrying to go down your grounding cord. You can put
Speaker 2: a gold sun up above you, ask for your energy
Speaker 2: to come back into that gold sun and shine your
Speaker 2: energy back into you. When your energy is in your body,
Speaker 2: it always feels good. Time and again people tell me
Speaker 2: that when they fill themselves with their gold their pain dissolves.
Speaker 2: So you can come back to this anytime and let
Speaker 2: all that energy of other people go down your grounding court.
Speaker 2: And what you're going to be doing now is noticing
Speaker 2: or put out a gold sun, excuse me, a rose
Speaker 2: outside your aura. So outside about eighteen inches in front
Speaker 2: of you, you're going to put a rose and just
Speaker 2: notice how that looks. Bring to mind that issue that
Speaker 2: you were thinking of earlier, and notice where that you
Speaker 2: feel that in your body. You can put your hand
Speaker 2: on it if it helps, and just be with that feeling.
Speaker 2: There's no judgment. On the other side of the rose.
Speaker 2: Put the person with whom you're having the issue, the
Speaker 2: confrontation that you've got coming up, whatever it is that
Speaker 2: you are thinking of, and put them on the other
Speaker 2: side or the issue on the other side of the rose.
Speaker 2: It can be a movie screen, it can be them
Speaker 2: just sitting there. Let them be them, and notice how
Speaker 2: you feel. The rose is considered a permission and for
Speaker 2: them to be who they are and you to be
Speaker 2: who you are. And sometimes it's called a protection rose.
Speaker 2: And so notice how you feel while you're watching them,
Speaker 2: Notice how your body feels as you're watching them. If
Speaker 2: their energy is too large, you can add more roses.
Speaker 2: You can add a golden wall, hm, you can add
Speaker 2: more protection with that. And if they start to move
Speaker 2: into your space, put roses stacked out from you out
Speaker 2: to them, and keep putting more roses in between. You
Speaker 2: and the picture so you can slide them in so
Speaker 2: they are pushed back, and just stay with yourself and
Speaker 2: the energy may move. You may feel the urge to move.
Speaker 2: I'd like you to do your best to stay as
Speaker 2: resist that urge to move as much as possible unless
Speaker 2: you must, because movement can sometimes give that energy permission
Speaker 2: to stay. And if you hold steady, it's going to
Speaker 2: have to move out. So check in again with your
Speaker 2: gold Son. It's shining your energy back every place you've
Speaker 2: left your energy. It's just what we do. We help somebody,
Speaker 2: we leave our energy. It's coming back through your gold
Speaker 2: Son and it's shining down on you, pushing everything out.
Speaker 2: And you might have the urge to yawn or a
Speaker 2: big sigh, you might have a gurgle in your belly.
Speaker 2: All those are signs that the energy's moving and give
Speaker 2: it permission to go down your grounding cord out your
Speaker 2: fingers or toes, and you would stay here until you're comfortable,
Speaker 2: your body's at ease, and as a bonus, you could
Speaker 2: stay until that person disappeared on the other side of
Speaker 2: the roads. They might get up and walk away, they
Speaker 2: may fade, But I always love watching how they're reacting
Speaker 2: when on being as neutral as I can be, And
Speaker 2: so you can put a bookmark in this and come
Speaker 2: back to it if it doesn't feel complete. You can
Speaker 2: thank the person for showing up and being who they are.
Speaker 2: Thank yourself for showing up and experimenting and being inquisitive,
Speaker 2: being curious. Explode the rose or the barrier that you
Speaker 2: put between you and them, And I always like to
Speaker 2: explode a whole bunch of other roses too, just because
Speaker 2: it clears the energy. You can close your foot chakras
Speaker 2: a little bit, explode your bounding cord and put another
Speaker 2: one down. Explode your gold sun and put another one up.
Speaker 2: Check in with your heart and let your mind settle
Speaker 2: into your heart. Take a deep breath in, wiggle your
Speaker 2: fingers in your toes, feel free to stretch, and if
Speaker 2: you'd like to try rebalancing the way I teach, you
Speaker 2: can lean over your knees and let your head just
Speaker 2: stangle atle bit and then come back.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Sally, that was really really interesting.
Speaker 1: I yawn. If you've all been noticing I'm not crying,
Speaker 1: I promise.
Speaker 2: So votable.
Speaker 1: I yawn when I'm processing energy, yawn and yon till
Speaker 1: I have tears streaming down my face.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so energy was moving for me. So that's great.
Speaker 1: And I loved the gold sun energy, especially after we've
Speaker 1: just been talking about filling the cracks with the gold
Speaker 1: and making more beautiful. And for me, I love being
Speaker 1: filled up with light. I love that feeling, whatever color
Speaker 1: light we're dealing with. I love that feeling of it
Speaker 1: just filling up every cell in my body, every everything
Speaker 1: and pushing out. That's great. So the other person for
Speaker 1: me was me? Did anybody else? This was just it
Speaker 1: was It's all self, and it's about It's about It's
Speaker 1: no secret. It's about my resistance to doing tech, to
Speaker 1: sitting at my laptop all the time and being bound
Speaker 1: to my laptop because I'm a healer, I'm a therapist.
Speaker 1: I like working with people, but running a business online
Speaker 1: you have a lot of back office work, a lot,
Speaker 1: and I don't do that. So, I mean, I have
Speaker 1: been for eight since my business has been online, and
Speaker 1: I've been in varying levels of resistance with it, but
Speaker 1: it's it's never something that I enjoy doing, and I'm
Speaker 1: always always trying to find a better relationship with that.
Speaker 1: So that was very interesting to see. I liked filling
Speaker 1: her with gold, her me the other me. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so clever I'm by locating. Well,
Speaker 1: that's fun. And then and I went through verys. So
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I used to sit on
Speaker 1: the floor with my legs open almost in the splits
Speaker 1: to do homework because I was a kid, right, And
Speaker 1: I saw myself with the laptop but me with my
Speaker 1: legs open on the floor like working like that like
Speaker 1: I did when I was a kid. I used to
Speaker 1: do my homework that way.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's interesting, but I want to see
Speaker 2: a picture of that, Shannon, you doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get down on the floor, like can
Speaker 1: I sit that way down my laptop on the floor.
Speaker 1: We'll see, I will find out. So that was that
Speaker 1: was fun. And I liked exploding the roses because I
Speaker 1: love flower petals, so I had like thousands of flower
Speaker 1: petals and it was just it was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you for sharing that. It's very powerful,
Speaker 2: I think, and it's really nice when you can do this,
Speaker 2: and please you listen to this recording and take your
Speaker 2: time and do it again. Put it on really slow
Speaker 2: replay and just take your time with that.
Speaker 1: So when people come out of an experience like the
Speaker 1: one that we've just done together, what do you invite
Speaker 1: them to do? How do we support what's just happened
Speaker 1: for people in their body or in their mind or
Speaker 1: what they've witnessed. What if they've witnessed something that was
Speaker 1: upsetting or yeah's next.
Speaker 2: So journaling is always a nice way to put it
Speaker 2: down on paper if it's been something that's upsetting, I
Speaker 2: usually if that would mean that we need to continue
Speaker 2: being with that situation. So the meditation was cut short,
Speaker 2: so bring that situation back in. What you can do
Speaker 2: is put that person in a white bubble to give
Speaker 2: even a little more distance, and then continue if you
Speaker 2: can with that, because I've never seen one of these
Speaker 2: not come to a peaceful resolution where they're satisfaction. And
Speaker 2: the satisfaction doesn't mean that everybody's hunky dory and your
Speaker 2: best buddies and everything after it's all finished, but it
Speaker 2: does mean that you can be in the same space
Speaker 2: without having a gut wrenching reaction or some sort of
Speaker 2: reaction that might come out in words that are very
Speaker 2: not you know, or might hurt or escalate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever you're going into something with clear intention to
Speaker 1: heal something, to shift something, you will be answered. Right.
Speaker 1: You might not get the ultimate solution because we are
Speaker 1: layered people, but something, something should shift.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so your body might want to go dancing,
Speaker 2: so go dance. You might want to sit in that
Speaker 2: hot tub like Shannon likes with her bas salts. You
Speaker 2: might like to take a nap, do whatever you want
Speaker 2: to do. Give yourself permission. If you can't do it
Speaker 2: right now, make a promise to yourself. You got to
Speaker 2: keep that promise though, Make a promise to yourself you'll
Speaker 2: do it later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Sally, for everyone who wants to go deeper
Speaker 1: with this work, where can they find you and what
Speaker 1: do you have for them?
Speaker 2: Well, we've got a resource in the show notes. Also
Speaker 2: we have you can visit my website at your Blissful
Speaker 2: journey dot com. Email me at Sally at your Blissful
Speaker 2: journey dot com. I do read all my emails and
Speaker 2: I would love to hear your experience and give me
Speaker 2: some feedback on what you liked or didn't like during
Speaker 2: the meditation. Any questions I will happily answer.
Speaker 1: That's great, Or you can find me at Shannonoflaherty dot
Speaker 1: com or SHANNONBTB dot com or email me Shannon at
Speaker 1: Shannonoflaherty dot com. So, Sally, if anybody listening to this
Speaker 1: or experiencing this.
Speaker 4: Today could take away just one golden nugget of information
Speaker 4: or a wisdom, what would you want the most to know?
Speaker 2: I want to offer hope. So if you have a
Speaker 2: desire for something, you wouldn't have that desire unless there
Speaker 2: was a solution for it or an answer to it.
Speaker 2: So if I have an answer, awesome. If Shannon has
Speaker 2: the answer, fabulous. If not, keep looking because the answer
Speaker 2: is out there for you and it will show up.
Speaker 2: Just don't get up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. There is always hope and you're not broken.
Speaker 1: It's not your fault. The answer might be out there,
Speaker 1: but usually the answer is in here. So this is
Speaker 1: what meditation is about. It's about going within to find
Speaker 1: that that other way of relating with your issues, with yourself,
Speaker 1: with whatever you're feeling in your body, another way to
Speaker 1: experience things, because there's always another way. So thank you
Speaker 1: so much, and Sally, it's been such a joy to
Speaker 1: have you here today, and thank you for taking us
Speaker 1: through that beautiful meditation, and thanks everybody for tuning in live,
Speaker 1: and in a couple of days we're sending out Sally's
Speaker 1: resource and my resource and sharing the playback link. So
Speaker 1: hope you're all on both of our mailing lists and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: Thanks Sally, thank you, Shan, thank you all.
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