WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:06.440 Welcome to Beyond Birth Trauma, From Burden to Brilliance, where 2 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:09.919 we uncover the powerful truth about your beginnings and how 3 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:14.160 they've shaped your entire life. I'm Shannon o Flaherty and 4 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:17.600 in this show, we're not just exploring your birth. We 5 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:22.280 are dismantling the chains of generational trauma. We're diving into 6 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.760 the core of who you are, peeling back layers of 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.120 inherited beliefs and behaviors that have held you back for 8 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.399 far too long. This isn't just about understanding your past. 9 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:37.920 It is about reclaiming your future. Get ready to break free. 10 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:41.600 This is Beyond Birth Trauma, From Burden to Brilliance, and 11 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:50.640 your transformation starts now. Hi, everybody, Shannon o Flaherty here, 12 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:55.320 Thanks for tuning in. Uh. You know you've done all 13 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.759 the work, haven't you, the therapy, the courses, the healings 14 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.560 of So why do you still find yourself caught in 15 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:08.799 the same emotional charge, the same reactive spiral, the same patterns. 16 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.719 In this episode, I'm joined by psychic meditation teacher Sally Decessor, 17 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.680 who specializes in helping women who've done a lot of 18 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.680 deep work finally get free from the hooks that keep 19 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.519 pulling them back. In Drawing on her own journey from 20 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:30.200 a silenced, strictly religious military childhood to becoming a guide 21 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.840 for other women, Sally shares her unique psychic meditation technique. 22 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:38.640 She leads listeners through a live experience designed to help 23 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:43.120 you step back from a charged situation, clear the energy 24 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.760 around it, and begin paving the way for a more 25 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:50.000 supportive future. In fact, in the last fifteen to twenty 26 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:54.040 minutes of today's show, she's actually going to be taking 27 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:57.640 all of us through her process. So that's very exciting, 28 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.120 So do stick around for that. You still feel stuck 29 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.480 despite everything you've done so far, this episode is for you. 30 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.919 Sally Duceesri is a transformational coach and creator of the 31 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:14.360 Unshatterable Approach. Her search for a better way began with 32 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:17.879 a moment she couldn't ignore, walking through her front door 33 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:22.319 after a full day, only to find herself unraveling in 34 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.919 front of her family. Not because her life was falling apart, 35 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.000 because she was. We all know that feeling. She had 36 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.840 been holding everything and everyone she felt responsible for together 37 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:40.319 for far too long. Now, Sally teaches driven professional women 38 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.240 how to build that safe haven within themselves so they 39 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.159 can stop white knuckling their lives and walk through their 40 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:49.680 front door as themselves again. We all know that feeling 41 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.199 as women holding it all together for everybody, our friends, 42 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.719 our kids, our partners, the whole world. So, Sally, it's 43 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.719 so wonderful to have you here with me. Well, welcome, welcome. 44 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.560 And thank you, thank you very much for this opportunity. 45 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.680 Hello everybody, welcome. 46 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.479 So, Sally, you work with women who've often done years 47 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:17.719 and years of deep healing work, myself included, and yet 48 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.879 still find themselves getting caught in the same patterns and reactions. 49 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.479 So before we get into what you do about that, 50 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.159 I'd love to hear how you got to this perfect 51 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.520 place right now, tell us about your beginning. 52 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.520 Oh, thank you, And you're right. It is a perfect place. 53 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.560 It's always evolving and it's getting better and better right 54 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:43.080 the more we learn. But I did. I grew up 55 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:48.919 in a really strict family. My dad was in the military. 56 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.479 Both of my parents were highly religious, and as many 57 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.680 of us may remember, this be seen and not her. 58 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:02.879 Children should be seen and not her. The adults know everything, 59 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:07.719 and you just don't speak up against your adult the person, 60 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:12.879 the adult, the person of power. And so that left 61 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:19.199 me voiceless, basically, And so because I didn't speak up, 62 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.480 I didn't speak up to anybody, not even to myself, 63 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:27.279 and so I kept everything inside, did what I was 64 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.959 supposed to do, lived the life I was supposed to 65 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:35.120 live whatever society you know, and family and everything, and 66 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:41.040 I was not who I came to be and so 67 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:45.720 or who I am now. And so now learning that, 68 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.639 I thought, well, there, why would people Why would I 69 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.639 watch people suffer like I did if I might have 70 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.079 a solution for them. And so that's when I started 71 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:06.639 sharing how I recovered from social morase, and that's why 72 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.399 I'm able to live and be here right now. 73 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.920 It's a really interesting point that you said that you 74 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.279 were silenced and had no voice, but even to yourself. 75 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:19.680 Do you want to expand on that a little bit, 76 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.319 because I think that's a very important point That a 77 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:27.399 lot of people feel that because they're towing the line 78 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.480 for other people, their parents or extended family members, or 79 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:35.240 their culture, situation, circumstances, whatever it is, it's keeping them 80 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.639 in that box, right That's part about not speaking your 81 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.720 truth to you is perhaps the most damaging part. Do 82 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.680 you want to talk about that for a little minute. 83 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:55.000 Yeah, that's the truth. I knew I wasn't happy. I 84 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.560 knew the voice in my head even told me not 85 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.560 to marry somebody who asked me to marry them. And 86 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:08.000 yet because it was accepted, we'd been together for long enough, 87 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:15.040 not wanting to disappoint and he's a nice person, I 88 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.600 went ahead and followed. 89 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:18.920 That. 90 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.600 I followed the voice of what was in my head, 91 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:24.279 not was what was in my heart. 92 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.560 Didn't get married or you didn't? 93 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:32.079 I did. I did, and I worked in a profession 94 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.720 that didn't suit me either, and I would in the 95 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.480 way to work. And maybe some of you have felt this. 96 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.439 Hopefully you weren't as thick headed as I was, or 97 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:47.399 as hard to listen, hard to be heard as I was. 98 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.120 But I would drive to work and my heart would 99 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:56.439 be breaking. And I was where I was because I 100 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.360 was the primary bread warner winter many years of my 101 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:06.720 married life, and I felt responsible, right if I walked 102 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.399 away from my job, what would happen to everybody else? 103 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.439 So I just did not listen. 104 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.439 It's really interesting I when you say I mean I 105 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:22.040 got married at twenty, because that was so intelligent, and 106 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.920 I knew, I knew I shouldn't be getting married but 107 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.319 I did what was like, I couldn't cancel a wedding. Now, 108 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.800 my father would have been joyous if I'd canceled that 109 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.519 wedding at the last minute, but I couldn't. I couldn't 110 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:37.040 tune into that. The pressure was so great. God, it's 111 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:41.040 like another whole life ago. That's so weird. That marriage 112 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.839 didn't last very long obviously, right, because you're starting to 113 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:48.439 wake up in your twenties hopefully. And then I called 114 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.279 it ignoring all the red flags in my life. Because 115 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.480 when you get a very specific, loud and clear message 116 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.360 from the universe or otherwise the voice in your head 117 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.839 and you're going yeah, but or you justify a reason 118 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.759 or you find another reason to do it anyway, you 119 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:14.399 end up paying for it emotionally, psychically, all sorts of ways, physically, eynically. 120 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:19.040 We hold that tension. And that is actually what finally 121 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:23.680 got to me, is not only was I that's what 122 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:26.279 made me go get help. I should say the stress 123 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:32.919 in my mind was I mean, that was my problem? 124 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.679 You know, basically, that's what I had learned. You know, 125 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.799 you don't go talk to anybody about any of your problems. 126 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.440 Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Right. But it was 127 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:47.120 when my body started to just cramp up with pain 128 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:50.519 and I couldn't work properly, I couldn't do my job 129 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:55.879 effectively that I had to search for help. And the 130 00:08:55.960 --> 00:09:01.440 funny thing was I didn't go for allopathic medicine. I 131 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:07.440 first went to chiropractice, which back in the early seventies 132 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.000 was really kind of off and in my family of 133 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:14.399 upbringing because my father was in the medical profession in 134 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:20.159 the military, it was really not part of the genre. 135 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:25.720 Right, So I pardon me, you rebelling, I'm going to 136 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:27.279 go find Yeah. 137 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:34.840 Finally, Yeah, And that just opened doors down. You know. 138 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:40.799 Chiropractical was just the beginning of my adventure into holistic health. 139 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.200 Anyway, you start to look into healing yourself, whether it's 140 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.679 in your mind, your body, your spirit. Eventually you'll get 141 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:53.320 to the whole picture if you keep going. But it 142 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:57.120 is really interesting because I think I grew up with 143 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:00.559 the same message children are seen and not heard. And 144 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.639 my dad, I didn't have the strict upbringing that you did, 145 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.399 but and he always delivered things in a joke. It 146 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:11.559 was funny, it was entertaining, but the message still lands, right. 147 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.440 My parents were very performative, so there was a lot 148 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:19.600 of funny humor, but the message how a kid receives 149 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:23.440 it can be very different than how this in the 150 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:27.039 same family a sibling receives the same message. 151 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.519 So true, so true. My sister thought we had an 152 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.960 idyllic upbringing. An eye on the other hand didn't. And 153 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.559 it didn't make much sense to me until I was 154 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.320 taking one of the classes i'd taken, and perhaps you've 155 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:46.320 heard of RTT, but I was in Marissa's class and 156 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:53.320 she was saying that one of her most profound sessions 157 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.919 of hypnosis with this client was a woman came to 158 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.519 her who had had a perfect life. She had grown up, 159 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.519 you know, being doted on by her parents, had everything, 160 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.720 and they went regressed and found that there was a 161 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:12.320 one time that her father had spoken sharply to her 162 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.600 and it wasn't even you know, anything that many of 163 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.080 us here all, you know, on a regular basis, but 164 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.600 it was enough for her sensitivity to be hurt and 165 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:29.240 it affected her self esteem until she found that story 166 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:33.840 out and could clear that. So we don't know, it's. 167 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.639 Quite fascinating that the wounding because in working with lots 168 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.279 of clients myself too as a therapist, you got to wait. 169 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:42.399 You got to wait to hear what the client's going 170 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.240 to bring you. And most people don't want to be 171 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.039 angry with their parents. They don't want to blame their parents. 172 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.720 They don't want to hate their parents. And maybe their 173 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.840 parents were great, or they have them pedestalized, so they're 174 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.039 not really tapping into what was wounding. I had a 175 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.960 client similar situation, and I said, does anything particularly I 176 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.240 wasn't getting anywhere with her, and I was like, does 177 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.440 anything from your childhood particularly stick out in your head 178 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.440 a recurring memory or something, some kind of trauma. And 179 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.320 she told me that it was her fifth birthday and 180 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.159 she was sitting at the head of the table and 181 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.720 her birthday cake and everybody was laughing. She's like, I 182 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.360 felt everybody was laughing at me, and she was so 183 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.440 self conscious even though it was like a birthday party. 184 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.320 It was a happy celebration. But that's not the way 185 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.240 it landed for the kid. And it had affected her 186 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.080 ability to get up in meetings at work as a 187 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.960 full grown adult and express herself because she felt all 188 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:44.679 eyes on her. So until we healed that story, and 189 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.559 so you think about have any trauma in your life, 190 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:56.639 No life was wonderful. Yes, yeah, there must be a 191 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.879 reason that you can't get up in. 192 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:02.279 Front of your office maids and speak up and say 193 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:03.200 your piece. Right. 194 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:08.120 So the rapid transformational therapy is what you were talking about. 195 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.879 That was with disappears that any correct. 196 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:19.120 Correct I started, you know, like I said, with the 197 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:25.919 other people working on me right, like hiropractical and things 198 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:30.960 like that, and then I started I was still having 199 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.799 that emotional issue, you know, I mean, still emotional tension. 200 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.120 I should say the physical was getting better, but it 201 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:43.000 kept slipping back, but the emotional tension was still there. 202 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.960 And a friend said, oh my goodness, come to this class. 203 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:51.799 It's craniosacral therapy. You'll learn something and you'll get worke 204 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.960 done at the same time. So I started taking some 205 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.840 of those classes, and that helped me get in touch 206 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.440 with my body. So I wasn't living up here all 207 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.519 the time. I was learning how to read what my 208 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.240 body was saying. And then I followed that all the 209 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:10.960 way through with some auto emotional release and all the endeavors, 210 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.120 healing from the heart, healing from the core, and worked 211 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.639 up into the psychic enlightenment center. So I call it up. 212 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.240 But that was just my progression. I shouldn't say up 213 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:28.960 or you know, it all depends. But that's that's when 214 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:33.200 when I learned to speak to my body, I got 215 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:39.320 that empowerment because I was now in charge of how 216 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:42.919 things were going. And it doesn't mean I still don't 217 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.720 use a coach or a mentor and work with my teachers. 218 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:55.200 It just means I know myself inside and out basically 219 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:59.399 so that I can follow if it's true for me, 220 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:04.480 because I might say something to somebody and it is 221 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:09.200 my truth, you know, it is mine, but it's not yours. 222 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:18.360 It's so interesting how disconnected people are from their body. 223 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.399 You know, our body is the container that our spirit, 224 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.399 in our soul lives lives in, and all of our 225 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.480 organs and all the rest of it. But it's the 226 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.399 container that holds us all together. And when you're in 227 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.399 touch with your body, in tune with your body, in 228 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:39.039 active communication with your body, and in terms of also 229 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:44.320 slowing down and stopping and sitting quietly and recouping and 230 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:49.840 resting and sleeping all of the natural things, your mind 231 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.519 starts to have a different relationship with your body. Because 232 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:57.559 when your body is disconnected from your mind and your spirit, 233 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:03.639 you're not working holistically altogether. Like it's like starting to exercise. 234 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:06.840 It's such a bummer because you're like, oh, it's so hard, 235 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.840 I can't do that, and it hurts. And then if 236 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:12.480 you keep going just a little bit, then your body 237 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.759 starts to generate more energy, more fitness. It hurts less, 238 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.679 and it creates all of these other endoor fins and 239 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:24.080 that kicks off all of these other things in your mind, 240 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:30.279 and it's a whole working mechanism altogether. So I think 241 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.039 it's fascinating that you started with the body. How did 242 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.720 the childhood stress land for you and your body that 243 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.440 made you go to a chiropractor? 244 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:48.480 First it was my back, and it was my muscle tension. Right. 245 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:55.120 I practiced as a dental hygienist for years, and when 246 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.879 the tension in my back was making it so I 247 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:01.519 couldn't feel my fingers and that's not gonna that's not 248 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:06.960 gonna fly. And since I didn't have at that point, 249 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.160 I didn't see another out. I knew I had to 250 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.359 fix the body that I had. But I loved how 251 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:17.079 you set Our bodies are vessels. Yeah, we came in here. 252 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.880 Our soul said, Hey, this is the body I want 253 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.680 to be in and we may wonder why this is 254 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.599 why we're in this body, but it was a plan. 255 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:33.079 It wasn't a mistake that our body, mind and spirit 256 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:39.279 are are doing this journey together, and it's the balance 257 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:46.640 that we want to hold so that we can heal. Yeah, 258 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:50.359 And to me, if I can just add, healing isn't 259 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:55.799 being perfectly like the picture of health and always on 260 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:02.799 and just go, go go. It's good inside, just like 261 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:11.599 an undercurrent of satisfaction of joy, loving your body for 262 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.039 what it is, where it is. 263 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.799 It's interesting because I'm a new grandmother, so my granddaughter 264 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.240 is three months old, and we come into the world 265 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.680 very much in our bodies. So babies cry because they're 266 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.480 not comfortable. I don't like this position, I'm wet, I'm cold, 267 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.920 I'm hot, whatever it is. And they communicate by letting 268 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.759 you know their discomfort. 269 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.160 They loudly a lot of other. 270 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.079 Things going on in their mind because the veil has 271 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.240 not closed yet on these little ones, but they can't 272 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.720 communicate that. But we're very connected to our bodies as 273 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.960 and if you watch a child, even toddlers, if you 274 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:54.039 see them sitting, they sit with perfect posture. We learn 275 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:59.319 poor posture, right, we learn how to not take care 276 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:04.279 of our now truly align of bodies, which is really interesting. Yeah, 277 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.799 it's just so so fascinating looking it's a good observation. Yeah, 278 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.119 that's really everything she sees in the world is a 279 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:15.400 new thing, Like, wow, look at this, and I just think, 280 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.440 what is she taking in? Like what's going on in 281 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:19.480 that little head? 282 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:22.759 Right? And it does give us a new way to 283 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:25.720 look too. I mean, they're so fascinated. It makes us 284 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:29.319 look again and go, what's so fascinating about that? Right? 285 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.720 And then you just really look again and it does 286 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:33.640 make a difference. 287 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:39.359 Yeah, it is. It is wonderful to start to open 288 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.440 your eyes through the view of a baby's eyes again, 289 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.559 because then everything is new and everything is a fascinating 290 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:53.839 experience or something new to learn or enjoy. Yeah. Yeah, 291 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:58.400 So who did you learn? How did you create the 292 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:02.480 unshatterable experience? What led to that? 293 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:21.400 It was an evolution, It it was something that it's 294 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:28.599 everything that I've learned over the years put together. So 295 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:35.680 we're supporting body, mind, and spirit over a period of time. 296 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:43.119 Because and we focus on that individual's strongest need or desire. 297 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.400 But I do pull in all all the stops and 298 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.400 the reason for the name unshadowable, because a lot of 299 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.119 people look at that and go, well, that's an odd one. 300 00:20:55.160 --> 00:21:02.759 But that's the way I feel. And I want people 301 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:08.079 to feel that they can handle anything, whatever life throws 302 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:14.599 at them, whatever they see, whether it's for somebody else 303 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:20.680 or an experience that they're experiencing themselves, they will come out. 304 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:26.799 They may come out changed, but they will not be broken. 305 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.160 It's a really good point because a lot of people 306 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.960 feel like they're broken. And if you're still walking and 307 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:39.279 living and breathing, you might be heartbroken and you need 308 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:42.720 to heal that. You might be grieving. That's another part 309 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:48.079 of that broken feeling. But being truly broken or not 310 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:53.160 truly broken, there's always another way to look at something 311 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.400 and find the way through for you. You might not 312 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:01.400 be deliriously happy, but broken is broken, you. 313 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:07.640 Know, yeah, yeah, yeah? And what is that Japanese when 314 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:08.440 they paint. 315 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:13.759 The gold yes for the name of the word either yes, 316 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:18.519 broken broken pottery, and then they fill the cracks with 317 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.839 gold so that it's a more even more beautiful creation 318 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.799 created from the cracks. 319 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.640 In the original form. And I mean, well, I like 320 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:33.680 to look at aging that way because we don't really 321 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.400 have a choice in the matter. Right, We're getting older, 322 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.680 whether we want to or not. So I just see 323 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:42.240 that as like, well, fill in all of those gaps 324 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:47.559 with joyousness and happiness and positivity and love. And that's 325 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.160 all of the gold that I'm pouring into myself every 326 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:54.240 day by doing all the things. And a lot of 327 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:59.279 those things are for my body, so exercising, dancing, the 328 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.079 hot salt bath every night, laying on my table, meditating, 329 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:08.839 hugging trees, walking, whateffort is those are physical things, but 330 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:13.039 they don't for me besides the hot bath, which is 331 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:17.359 just that really works for me. But for me, they 332 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:22.880 feel more like mental things even though they're physical engagements. 333 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:28.240 I feel more that in doing those things, I'm taking 334 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:32.640 care of my head, right, do you know what I mean? 335 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.720 I do, I do and it gets it gets the 336 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:41.759 cerebrospinal fluid flowing and clears the mind. So you are 337 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.359 actually physically doing something for your body, I mean, for 338 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:50.160 your mind while you are experiencing that openness, that freedom. 339 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.400 I think so many times we're stuck at the computer 340 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:57.359 all day and don't take a moment to look outside. 341 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:01.559 And I was I gotta a message from a friend, 342 00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.960 and I said, oh, my gosh, it was. I think 343 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.400 it was just this past weekend, which is Mother's Day 344 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:11.720 here in the US. And and I said, I hope 345 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.599 you got outside. I knew her daughter wasn't in town. 346 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.240 I hope you got outside to enjoy this. She said, no, 347 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.880 I'm trying to get this work done before the end 348 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.200 of the semester. I'm like, oh my gosh, not even 349 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.000 a half an hour to go for a walk, to 350 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.880 look outside and listen to the birds starting to sing 351 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:29.880 here in spring. 352 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:30.279 You know. 353 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.240 It was very sad. So I kind of reprimanded her 354 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.440 a little bit, just a minute. It doesn't take long. 355 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.160 I live in the north of England, so when the 356 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:43.759 sun shines, it's like, got to go outside because I 357 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:48.240 think the sun might not be shining. So I've had 358 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.559 to learn that the hard way over all of these years. 359 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:53.279 I think, oh, beautiful, Marnie, Okay, well I'll go out later. 360 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.400 But then later it's overcast and raining and I've missed 361 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.920 my window. Because it's rare that we get full law 362 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:04.000 long days of sunshine. So in this in between time, 363 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.400 it's like, take it when you can get it. I 364 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.920 can't go now, though, because I'm live on air with you. 365 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:15.799 Oh, dear, Well, we're gonna pray that it stays nice 366 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.559 and sunny for you for the rest of the afternoon. 367 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:24.119 Thank you. I hear those trees calling me for Yeah. 368 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.599 But I love that the earth is telling you, Shannon, 369 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:29.680 get outside. 370 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.400 Yeah. I mean, I'm very lucky where I live. There's 371 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.480 a river, park, flowers. 372 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:37.000 It's just it's beautiful. 373 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.640 So that's important. That's important to me. And different things 374 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:46.519 are important to different people. But whatever it is that 375 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:51.720 makes your body happy, you need to do that kind 376 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.519 of on a regular basis. 377 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:55.839 Right, So. 378 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:03.880 This meditation, psychic meditation technique, do you want to kind 379 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:08.480 of yeah, tell us about it first before we go 380 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:13.000 into it. Tell us, yeah, tell us whatever you want to. 381 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.680 Tell us, whatever it is, right, right, Well. 382 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:18.279 Go into it. 383 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.480 When I came across this, my teacher, when I came 384 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:27.400 across her, it made all the difference in the world 385 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:31.519 to me how I managed because it it gave me 386 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:37.519 something that helped me manage my that charge, that electrical 387 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.200 charge that I would get in my body when I 388 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.880 had a confrontation. You know what I would consider a 389 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:48.240 confrontation coming up. If I had a tough conversation coming up, 390 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:53.640 or or if my child and I my daughters, one 391 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.759 of them would be we'd be fighting or something. How 392 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:01.079 could I clear that energy inside of me so I 393 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.480 could be the person that I wanted to be in 394 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.279 that situation. And so when she taught me how this 395 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.519 tool that I'm going to show you this meditation I'm 396 00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:13.880 going to show you guys today, When she taught me this, 397 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.440 it was like a breath of fresh air because I 398 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:23.440 could prepave whatever was coming up. So if I had 399 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.720 a big event like today getting on this call with you, 400 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.240 I could sit and look at it and go, Okay, 401 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:35.559