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Thomas is queer and my camera's not working because because
the Illuminati, I don't know, something is doing my camera.
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Speaker 3: I mean a little one is better than no.
Speaker 2: One, you think so, I mean I might come back
here and there, but who cares.
Speaker 3: So it'll be like watching an old time movie. And
let me just ask you to stop with the queer stuff.
It was funny before, but I just heard that Donald
Trump has made it a felony so to be queer
in the United States now for the next four years.
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I did not need to offense or I'm sorry for
anyone listening.
Speaker 3: I'm not offended. I just don't. I don't want to
be looked into under the authorities because it's.
Speaker 2: Not gotcha, gotcha? All right, Well he is queer, and
he is in fact not even here. So welcome back
to the episode of the Code Book Club. It's been
far too long. The last book that we covered was
the infamous five and a half hour episode.
Speaker 3: No, that was the last one. That was That's where
we left it.
Speaker 2: That's where we left it. A five and a half
hour that almost costs us our relationships, It almost destroyed
our families to start.
Speaker 3: Fights in the occult world, and there was fallout. There
was like legitimate fallout from that episode.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, though was so crazy. That's still
not even like out publicly on my episode. It's not
one of the It's not my proudest fat if I
had to say. So, if you want to check that.
Speaker 3: I released I Believe in Truth with two capital, you.
Speaker 4: Blasted it off everywhere. You were just blasting it.
Speaker 2: Off all over the place, just all over the walls
and everything. So if you want to check that out,
you can find it somewhere. I'm not gonna tell you where,
but you can find it. So today we're gathered here
today to talk about a banger, a banger of a
book that I've read already twice now, and I'm gonna
be honest, it didn't really slap that hard the second
time around. So we're gonna be talking about some homunculous
goodness today. We're gonna show you today, we're gonna expose
the seat, the true recipe and the true method of
creating a real homunculous that any one of you right
now listening could do yourself. I even thought about doing
it myself. I might even do it live to try
and prove this theory. This method, I guess it only
takes nine months, two hundred and seventy five days.
Speaker 4: So it's not that one.
Speaker 3: You also have to be peer of heart, but you have.
Speaker 4: To be peer of heart.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be talking today about this particular work
that I had discovered through Mark Stavish's his work, Mark
Stavish here the Magical World of the Doctor of Joseph Lakshuvski.
Speaker 3: Is that he said, want to say Lazhevsky. I believe
it's Lazevsky. It's a Polish last.
Speaker 2: Name, Lzhevsky, Lazhevsky I'm gonna say Lazuski probably at one
point in time. That's how I just learned to read it, right.
So I heard through this through Mark Stabish. I did
reach out to Mark Stavish to come on the show
the One podcast, but he never wrote back to me.
I guess I'm not cool enough for him. Who cares?
Speaker 3: If I would have wrote him, he probably would have responded.
Speaker 4: Probably who cares, maybe came on or not.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I wanted to talk to him about this particular
character because I had learned about him through Phoenix Aurelius,
which I had on the show while who is a
real life alchemist. And he's like, well, if you want
to learn about the Homokius, you should look into Lashusky
Laszewski's work, because he created one during his time at
the Paracelsus or Para Alchemy Society over in Utah at
one point, which we're gonna get.
Speaker 4: Into and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But today's book is called Israel Regardi in the Philosopher's Stone,
the Alchemical Arts Brought down to Earth by Joseph C. Lashovski, PhD.
Or Lashusky. You can say however you want. I've heard
Mark Stavish say it a few times. He says that
sometimes he put a V in there, sometimes he didn't.
Doesn't really matter who cares. So we're gonna be talking
about that. So we're gonna cover. Let me pull your
screen up.
Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, I found I've found a good little background
on Laszewski that so there was. This was actually run
by Mark Stavish. It was a Kickstarter The Magical World
of Doctor Lazhevski. So this book was raised a whole
bunch of money. But it also has this whole background
on la Chevsky. So on the skickstarter page by Mark Stavish,
I say he wrote this.
Speaker 2: Before you get into that, I want to the one
main thing that Joseph is known for, like his his
magnum opus, was allegedly manifesting a demon to physical like
to the physical. He said that he did that on
multiple occasions, which is very interesting because again I consider
the occult and the Yesoterica conspiracy, because it's like, hey,
our demons real?
Speaker 4: Are angels real? Can you control them? Can you let
them touch your ball sack?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: What can you make them do? That is real?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And again this is what this guy was truly known for.
Speaker 3: So go ahead well, we've got images of the types
of creatures that Lazhevski was able to manifest. So technically, yeah,
you could make it touch your balls, but I don't
know if it can do anything cool with the balls
once it's touching them. Yeah, you know what I mean.
And so we'll show I guess I don't know how
much we want to like tease that, but let's let's
describe who Laszewski is first, and then maybe we can
get right into the water works. Yes, so it's okay.
Few figures in modern occultism have garnered the admiration and
vitriol as doctor Joseph Lazhevski. After a terrifying evocation at
the age of seventeen, he found himself involved with two
of the greatest occultists in the twentieth century, Israel Regardi
and Freder Albertus. And I want to say too that
I believe that Israel Regardi kind of becomes Theshevsky's main
mentor in this particular book. He's able to study with
Freder Albertus. But it seems like this this guy's more
of like a disconnected sort of Hogwarts teacher. He's not
hilling with him every day, but Israel Regardi is sort
of his like every day mentor at least much closer.
And Israel Regardi was able to work with not just
Freighter Albertas but also Alistair Crowley. Do I have all
that right? You're the expert on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I haven't, and I'll be honest, I have
never really looked into a GUARDI. I do have some
of his books, but he's mostly known for allegedly like
exposing the Oto at one point.
Speaker 4: And yeah, his work with Crowley.
Speaker 2: He was very involved with him, which we can get
into some of his biography here. But of course he's
uh he was. He was Jewish, So take that.
Speaker 3: Why does that get a chuckle?
Speaker 4: I mean just I'm just saying, bro So.
Speaker 3: The book about from Doctor Joseph Schewsky, he kind of
operates as a similar figure, but he doesn't know Alistair
Croley obviously he's too far removed. But that, just like
Israel Regardi, was this bridge between old world real hermetic
dawn Philamic magic and to modern day and then doctor
Joseph Lezewski kind of continues that tradition, at least until
twenty sixteen when he died. So here so more on
the bio, It says that born in the rugged coal
mining region of central Pennsylvania, Leshevsky came of an age
in an era when the grip of religious orthodoxity was waning,
but the magical world of counterculture movement was not yet
fully born. So he was born in nineteen forty seven
and died in twenty sixteen, like almost ten years ago.
So that's him in the bridge. But he also was
sort of this counterculture guy, so all the alchemy that
we read about him doing and throughout this book, this
is sort of on the tail end of like sixties seventies.
I think some of it approaches into like the nineteen eighties,
which is kind of a unique time period because usually
when you read about alchemists, even if it's like a
modern alchemist, you're still talking about World War two or earlier.
It's usually like lay eighteen hundreds, early nine, eighteen hundreds.
But now we're talking about the seventies and the eighties,
and he's making his best work for the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: That's why I found it so interesting, because a lot
of people go, well, you know, can you prove the
homunculus or can you can you prove all this other stuff.
It's like, no, but I can talk to you about
dude who allegedly did the work.
Speaker 4: Right and they all found their way.
Speaker 2: And Lushuski, which I've been meaning to do an episode
on which this is it. I guess the he was
the guy that allegedly did this in modern Town. And
I'm sure there are other people too if you want
to count, like Parsons and all these other guys, which
he was born at the tail.
Speaker 4: End of that. He was born right when he was
born the year Croley died, and.
Speaker 2: Obviously didn't get to meet him. But as we'll see,
there was his interactions with Israel regard, who was involved
with Crowley for a while.
Speaker 4: From what I picked up on.
Speaker 2: It seemed like it made it seem like Croley touched
him inappropriately, Like their last interaction that he talks about
was like he hurt me beyond belief and I couldn't
I couldn't forgive him for that. And that's why I
published the book on the Philosopher's Stone.
Speaker 4: And yeah, we'll get to it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so there's not a lot about this Lashuski
guy other than a bunch of his books. But as
far as a good biography, if you want to check
out that particular book, The Magical World. It breaks down
his life. And then from that book is that I
found this book that we're covering today, which gets a
lot more in depth.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm sorry, hold on, someone's trying to call me
on Instagram and I can't figure out how the fuck
to just say stop calling. It's just been ringing the
whole time you've been talking. And Nate was like, sorry,
I didn't mean to call you, but like he hasn't
hung up, so I gotta shut all my browsers down
right back.
Speaker 2: No, you're good, dude. Anyways, Yeah, we're gonna be covering
this today. We're gonna be covering the true art of
how to create a real homunculus, which it seems pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 2: Some steps you have to follow as far as pH
level and all this other stuff. But it's allegedly based
on the Golden Chain of Homer, which is an ancient
text that a Golden Chain of Homer. Let me see
when that was published, That was published in seventeen twenty three.
Wouldn't call it ancient but older, and you could allegedly
create these crustaceans in the water and this substance called
the gerr, this primordial substance that you then use to
create the homunculus.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean you good now, bro? Did
they stop calling you?
Speaker 3: No? But I found out a way to just mute
that particular window. But they did not stop calling there.
It's still ringing right now, all right.
Speaker 2: So I was just explaining a little bit about the
golden chain of Homer and the little crustaceans that you're
able to create through the Oh, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, let's just show a picture of it right now,
then let's just get this over. We're broca. Because the
whole time there they kind of talk about this water
work being the lead up to creating an actual homunculus,
that it all starts with collecting your rainwater and uh,
pro electrify over the course of yeah, they have, you
have to electrify the rainwater. But at a certain point
you're going to have this little crustacean sort of entity.
And this is the proof. This is the one that
he keeps bigging up the entire time. And uh, I
don't I don't know what I'm seeing right now. It
almost looks like a scab that you would pick off
of like your leg or something, and then it got
a little bit wet, like I don't see any real
bone structure or anything. Although I don't want to just
start being overly critical, because this is still better than
any homunculous that I've tried to make so far. So
I don't know how much I'm allowed to criticize this
particular type of homunculus.
Speaker 4: How dare you say?
Speaker 2: Are you are you insinuated that the homunculus is not real?
Is that where you're getting it?
Speaker 3: I just I have a higher bar for what I
would accept as a homunculus, and this seems more like
homunculous discharge.
Speaker 2: Yes, So, uh, did you finish on Lashuski his biography
before we dive into this.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was a wacky guy and he was
into modern day alchemy. I don't know how much you
want more you want to get into. I think that
his statements from the book that we read, uh sort
of describe him as a person, and it looks like
he gets a lot of his influence from again Israel,
Regardi and Freighter. But also he he kind of likes
the hot goss, like he likes to give you some
insight on the drama that was kind of going on
behind the scenes between these alchemists and like the disagreements
they were having and what the disagreements were over. For example,
you mentioned that some of this work takes place in
like a lab, like a par Para Celsian lab in
the seventies. I think it got defunked in the eighties,
and then it moved or released the premise of it
moved overseas to Australia in the nineties, and then it
just sort of faded back out maybe less than ten
years ago, probably around the same time that doctor, you know,
Joseph died. That was I think the tail end of
this laboratory. But in this lab was one of the
many different points of contention. So it got built I
believe in Salt Lake City, Utah, not just anywhere in Utah,
but like the heartland of Mormonism, and I feel like
there's a link here to that. But I won't go
on too many tangents, but that in Salt Lake City,
but that it was founded in Salt Lake City by
Israel Regardi because Israel Regardi thought that it looked close
to Dresden, which was the last place in Germany he
was at before he fled to the United States, and
that when he saw Salt Lake City, it reminded him
so much of the last time he had seen these
like snow capped mountain peaks and that just particular type
of skyline that he was convinced that that's where he
was going to put this lab up. And him moving
that lab and doing his work in Salt Lake City
kind of became a huge point of contention between him
and Albertas Freighter Albertas and with Lashevsky, and that I
guess over time Lazevsky notices that there's research coming out
of this weird lab that he had heard about in
Salt Lake City. So it seems incredibly important the location
in which this alchemical school was like an alchemical lab,
and also the fact that it created like a divide,
because Lashevsky in this book mentions something that I thought
was really interesting, and that was the West Coast, specifically
California was attracting all these alchemists. Like if you wanted
to be in Golden Dawn or if you wanted to
learn alchemy in any capacity, it was pretty much California
was the place to go, and by this new alchemical
lab being set up in Salt Lake City, it kind
of bucked that entire trend. And it also implies that
it kind of damned part of the possible outcome because
they were no longer able to fish from like this
huge pool where everyone was going to. You had to
like entice someone to leave California and come to Salt
Lake City, which almost implied you had to be so
beyond serious about it. You couldn't have been there for
like the girls or the sun or the beach. Right, Like,
if you're like, all right, now I'll go to Salt
Lake City, you're giving up all of those like worldly
sort of possessions in a way, right, and you're going
to dedicate your life directly to this like alchemical work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the true alchemist way.
Speaker 2: And you're definitely not getting bitches through alchemy unless you
go to like a yoga studio and you can.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Freder ALBERTA. Spijerics Albert Richard Riddell born May fifth, a
founder of the Paracelsus Research Society in Salt Lake City,
which later evolved into Paracelsus College, based on the Paracelsian
concept of three essentials, body, soul, and spirit. Freder Albertas
developed a system of teaching al chemical concepts using the
Spagiic teaching of separation and cohibition. The unique graduated courses
allowed students to explore aspects of the vegetable, mineral, and
animal kingdoms in an understandable and accessible way. After his
death in nineteen eighty four, the college ceased operations in
the United States, but to continue to carry on the
tradition in Australia. Freder Albertas had a profound effect on
the way alchemy, and particularly the Spajeric method was disseminated,
understood and understood in the mid to late twentieth century.
His works were translated into many languages. He was a
Rosicrucian of the a m RC and he's got a
ton of written works that he did and also Paracelsis College, Australia.
So he died in ninety So this is what's interesting,
right because after his death in nineteen eighty four, but
then if you go and look on the alchemywebsite dot com.
In nineteen eighty four, Freder Albertas came to Australia to
teach for the last time. He appointed Gregory Sneddon as
the administrator of Paracelsice College, Australia. After the death of
freder Alberta, College undertook to continue the oral teachings with
Greg and the valuable input of doctor Warner Norocki from Germany.
During this time of transition, Greg began training a few
students to teach the college curriculum. In March nineteen ninety,
Greg made a decision to withdraw and pursue his own work.
He duly appointed Janey Radcliffe as the next administrator. The
work has continued to this day and this is from
I don't know when this was posted, but a while
back during this time. The work I can do to
this day. At the present time, the college is run
by two remaining teachers, Jeanie Radcliffe and Rick.
Speaker 4: Dannenberg.
Speaker 2: PCA is a nonprofit educational system dedicated to furtherance of
the conscious evolution of the individual within the context of
their physical existence. As it is to this and alchemy
provides a way that allows us to observe and participate
in the process of evolution as we work by understanding
philosophical philosophically what is observed consciously through repetitive, practical, practical work.
The alchemical process is embedded into the psyche to awaken
the sleeping beauty within. That which is understood internally becomes
that which is observed externally. The two can become one,
yet still the vessel remains. The college system consists of
three levels laboratory theory and practice to gain insight into
universal processes QBL two.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is, qbos at kabala.
Speaker 2: I think it's kabala to understand analogical relationships, cycles and astrologies,
to incorporate the principles of time and psychology, sacred geometry,
to demonstrate the principles of space and the process of
resident creation.
Speaker 4: And that's they got an email.
Speaker 3: I mean, right, but this one, according to the other
articles about this particular college in Australia, this one also
went under in like twenty sixteen or something like recently
they kind of ceased operations. So I don't know what
the modern day version of a true alchemical lab would be.
And when we say alchemical lab, they have like here's
an example. These images look like it's maybe from like
the late eighteen hundreds, but they were talking about like
right here, in nineteen fifty nine is where Fredo Albertaz
comes up with the Paracelsus Research Society, and this is
where he's teaching alchemy. And I want to say in
the forward, I want to say Mark Stavish sort of
makes a nod to Hogwarts here. He mentions it's like
a blend of Harry Potter and something else. And that's
kind of what I couldn't shake is that if you
go to this Paracelsus Research Society to learn alchemy from
Freighter Albertus, it's kind of the closest thing that you're
gonna get to go into a real life Hogwarts. And
that if you do magic in your dorm room, the
teachers will know about it and they'll get mad at
you and like make a big scene in front of
the rest of the class, and that for like science
Fair day, you actually got to show off whether you've
made a monkeylus or do all sorts of like very
like we're not talking about just philosophical Oh I'm a
better person, right, I'm discovering inner gold. They were literally like, okay,
bring out your beakers, now, heat up your Bunsen burners,
and show us how you've been able to make this
lesser work of herbs. And now that I can like
pour you know, mercury or alcohol on this little rock,
and the rock will h fell some kind of like
very potent chemical that was derived from the plant. I
don't I don't fully get, like I understand the whole
lesser work thing. But the point being is that this
Paracelsus research Society was not just bookworms. These were like,
you know, chemistry nerds that were actually like going all
out and making real things in the lab.
Speaker 2: So when you're talking about Harry Potter, he's actually referring
to I found the part here. Doctor Frederick Santy of
Wop Wop wallin penn Pennsylvania is one that comes to
mind a child genius. He was a cross between Dougie
Heiser or Hauser and Harry Potter.
Speaker 4: That was him, And apparently he was a.
Speaker 2: Medical doctor ocultis and practicing warlock in rural Pennsylvania. He
was the found founder and leader of the Coven of
the Katah, a coven that practices guardeniic wicca, which I've
never heard about that, but apparently it's a I.
Speaker 3: Mean, he's just he's just a Harry Potter meets Dougie
Hauser and you should be ashamed. You don't know who
Dougie Hawser is. But that's a different generation. But that,
uh Duey Hauser was a TV show.
Speaker 4: I ever saw it.
Speaker 3: A kid that's like fourteen Neil Patrick Harris Art. Yeah,
it's about Neil Patrick Harris and he's super smart and
he becomes like a surgeon at fourteen or something crazy
like that. Sixteen, but he's so smart that he gets
through all of his education. So it's actually a good
reference to say, like the Harry Potter meets Dougie Hawser,
because Harry Potter wasn't even necessarily Doogie Howser level. He
just happened to have some kind of bloodline that made
him pre disposed to being like a better wizard I guess,
or a warlock. I'm not really I guess you're a Harry.
You're a wizard, Harry. So he was a wizard.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, But.
Speaker 3: Also it makes me feel that this Paracels's research society
is the Hogwarts and all of this.
Speaker 2: I can't unsee this where he apparently he graduated from
Harvard as the magnum come Louder when he was seventeen
later earned two PhDs in an MD. But anyways, this
was a guy there right at the that was involved
with the alchemy at the time.
Speaker 3: He went to Hogwarts. Yeah, and then he became the
Harry Potter, meaning that Israel Regardi was no Harry Potter.
He was maybe like a Ron Weasley, and then maybe
Joseph Leshewsky. I don't know if he's like Hermione or
I don't know who he is. Maybe he's like the
kid that was under snape or something.
Speaker 2: So we got that Malfoy. Let me talk a little
bit about Israel Regardy. So he was Francis Israel Regardi
was an English and American occultist, ceremonial magician, and writer
who spent much of his life in the United States.
He wrote fifteen books on the subject of occultism. Born
to a working class Orthodox Jewish family in the East
End of London, regarding his family soon moved to Washington,
DC in the United States, Regardy rejected Orthodox Judaism during
his teenage years and took an interest in theosophy, Hinduism, Buddhism,
and Jewish mysticism. It was through his interest in yoga
that he encountered the writings of Occultis Alister Crowley. Contacting Croley,
he was invited to serve as the Occultis secretary and
necessitating a move to Paris, France. In nineteen twenty eight,
he followed Croley to England before their association ended. Living
in England, he wrote two books on the Kabbala, A
Garden of Pomegranates and the Tree of Life. In nineteen
thirty four, he then joined Stella Matutina, a ceremonial magic
order descended from the defunct Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn,
but grew dissatisfied with its leadership and left. He also
studied psychology, being particularly influenced by the ideas from Jungian psychology,
and explored Christian mysticism. In nineteen thirty seven he returned
to the United States, concerned that the Golden Dawn system
of ceremonial magic would be lost. He published the Stella
Matutina Rituals and a series of books between nineteen thirty
eight and nineteen forty. This entailed Brain making his oath
of secrecy and brought anger from many other occultists. So
this is like the controversy behind Israe Regardi exposing the secrets, right,
but he did it to preserve the secrets. During the
Second World War, he served in the US Army. On
returning to the US, he gained a doctorate in psychology
before relocating to Los Angeles in nineteen forty seven and
setting up practice as a chiropractor. In nineteen eighty one,
he retired and moved to Sedona, Arizona, where he died
of a heart attack four years later.
Speaker 3: So and the note about him setting up practice as
a chiropractor and forty seven, there's a few different points
in this book that mentioned when he asked Regardi about
like what he did with his life and how much
he cared about all this stuff that Regardi would constantly
be like, I wish I would have just focused more
on money, just had more business and like put all
this out, you know, al chemical stuff to the side.
But it made a good point too that yeah, he
had a professional business. He was a chiropractor for damn
near like four decades of his life and that's where
the money came. And without that paying the bills, I
don't think he would have had time to just study alchemy, right,
I'm pretty sure that that's sort of the leading fucking
line here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and that that is a lot of people.
That's even my stance on it. It's like you look
into a lot of this stuff as far as occultism
and all these things going. There's a few excerpts that
I'll pull up here in a little bit in the
book that really touch on the subject of like, hey,
you should probably focus on making money because.
Speaker 4: Let me find it here. Yeah, I'll find it in
a little bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of the stuff he was saying
was was true, like hey, this is all just he
was kind of poo pooing alchemy where it's like it
leads to nothing and it's just an endless cycle of
just looking into things, which sometimes I do feel that
way about pretty much any subject, Like once you start
to look into it's like, what's the point?
Speaker 4: What are you doing here? You know?
Speaker 3: Well, even saying doctor Frederick Santy, who's the one that
was kind of likened to Doogie Houser and Harry Potter,
it says right here that if he had to do
it all again, Santy said he would forget magic and
focus on only making money as a physician. Santy had
a comfortable life. But it's also clear for all his
occult skill and talent, in the end he believed the
results did not justify the time and energy he put
into it. So that and that's something that gets repeated
not just by Santy, but by Israel Regardi and I
think by proxy too, uh, doctor Joseph Leshewsky. So all
three of these guys, which are sort of cited as
being like modern the closest we've got to like master
alchemists that their names are popular enough to have gotten out,
all of them are saying, don't do alchemy, just focus
on making money.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because alchemy throughout all of history has
been about essentially unlocking an endless amount of money. Because
if you could just turn lead into gold and just
do that all day long, you could pawn the gold
or sell the gold whatever and make more money. Right,
But it never turned out to be the case because.
Speaker 3: There might be a story deeper down under here. Right.
So if you're John de or some other version, and
you're hired by the king or royalty whoever has an
unlimited money supply to look into this alchemy thing, like
how can we generate endless amounts of gold. Therefore I
assume to fund like military and expansionism and stuff. But
if you're caught in this trap of like I got
to just be straight swindling this king, for like my
whole career is just pawning the king, right, then at
a certain point you gotta be like, oh, well, no, no,
deep down, I'm probably purifying my soul, so I'm probably
becoming a better person through this process. So I wonder
if it's if there's a story like that, like it
started out as being purely physical and then it had
to adopt these like metaphysical and spiritual elements to it
just to justify like not getting the results in the
physical world.
Speaker 2: Sure, because maybe they realized it was bullshit halfway through
and they were like, well, what do we do now?
Speaker 4: Right as all its to.
Speaker 3: Me, maybe I'm closer to God. Maybe that's what I
can sell me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the way that that L.
Speaker 2: Shouski puts it in the book, where it's about achieving
and essentially being able to see the face of God,
and by you observing the face of God, you're able
to then kind of sort of become one and transcend
to that next level, which you know, speaks to the
magnum opus and all these ideas of the great work.
But it just so happens to be that anyone who
ever achieved the great work just happened to disappear, So
we can't really ask them, like, hey, what's the secrets
unless you follow the You know, anyone before this would
probably be Fulconelli, which even Folconelli was one of those
you know, early nineteen hundreds, but it's sort of this
elusive guy if he was even a guy, or was
he a group of people writing together. The first ever
mentioned of Folconelli was actually from the wife of I
believe his last name was Bartholdi, which was the mean,
let me Augustus Bartholdi, Augustus BARTHOLDI. Let mean, let me
fact check myself on that. Yeah, So it was from
the wife of Frederick Auguste Bothardi, which who who was
the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty. His wife was
the first one to ever write about folk the named Fulconelli,
and that's what we're able to trace it back to.
And Fulconelly was probably a group of people, but allegedly
in the late nineteen twenties around there, he appeared in
some alchemical lab or might have been the nineteen thirties,
he appeared in an our chemical lab and revealed the
secrets to the scientist about the secrets to essentially nuclear power,
and the precursor to the CIA actually went around looking
for him. Now, if he was a real person or not,
that's up for interpretation, but he's His description of alchemy
is one of the ones that I love the most
because it kind of nails it on the head, like, hey,
what the hell is all this work for in the lab?
Speaker 4: For like they what is the philosopher's time? What is
all this?
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, it's to be able to step
outside of space and time and manipulate reality from the outside.
Speaker 3: And then here's your heart.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, he didn't say anything like that, but he's
like and I'm out and peace out.
Speaker 4: And then they.
Speaker 2: Were seeing that meme with the with the black kid
who does the peace sign, and like disappears that.
Speaker 3: He was. That was Fulcanelly discovering the Philosopher's Stone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, exactly, peace out. Uh, black Kid definitely pull
that up real quick.
Speaker 3: And there's a when we're talking about the Philosopher's Stone.
This is something that was fairly new to me. I mean,
I'd heard this before through Paracelsus work, but they they
bically make this claim that in order for you to
be able to make a philosopher's stone, first you have
to be able to make this this herbal stone, and
that an herbal stone takes something like twenty pounds of
raw dry herb, and then you have to send it
through these various processes. And I don't there's like a
whole bunch of like encoded stuff in here. So this
this book, he kind of tells you at the beginning,
like I'm gonna give you the exact recipes and everything
you're gonna need to know doesn't do shit. You're gonna
have to like read between the lines in order to
get to that super clear message. And one of those
messages was that and this might have been towards the
waterworks section, but I kind of applied to the rest
of it. But he said that in all the old manuscripts,
if you go up and look at like Valentine or Basil,
that some of their writings would say things like bury this,
and I'm gonna make something up. It'll be like bury
this in horse dung for thirty days and then unbury it.
But the problem was that he said that that was
a code that really, if you knew what you were
looking for and what you were trying to create, you'd
have to keep it buried for nine months, not one month,
and that anyone that digs it up after a month,
they're kind of outing themselves and they're preventing themselves from
actually doing this work. And I almost started to apply
that same premise to this herbal stones, because so the
premise of an herbal stone, as you take twenty pounds
of herb, let's just say that it's weed, just for
that's a lot of herbs.
Speaker 4: Twenty pounds, you get.
Speaker 3: Twenty pounds a weed, and then you basically keep distilling
that down until you've got nothing but just the plant
matter left over. And I assume that you're saving the
points that you're extracting through alcohol, which is called like
the mercury, so you're kind of storing all of the
concentrated liquid from it, but you're not throwing away the
physical plant material at any point either. And what happens
is that once you've processed as much as you can,
then you start to burn it, and you wait until
it turns all black, how it turns into like snash.
But then you keep burning it even more and even hotter,
and then it starts to turn like a light gray color,
and then maybe like a like a white color, like
a completely bleached white color, and then it'll start to
form into like a hard substance. And I guess there's
a certain point in time when you can roll this
into like a ball, and now you've got like this
little purified ball of the old like physical matter, and
then you start feeding it. And this reminded me of
the descriptions and how you would feed a homunculous blood
over the court, like every night you would go and
I don't know, give it like a few drops of
blood or something. You do the exact same thing with
this herbal stone. That once you've got this perfect little
white sphere, then you start feeding it its own blood,
which in this case would be its alcohol or its
mercury or whatever, the liquid substances that you were able
to extract from it before you burnt it, before you
calcified it. And then over time, as you feed enough
to it, it says that it will take no more,
meaning that you've basically like oversaturated this little ball with
its own blood. And at that point it becomes I
guess this this herbal stone which is the precursor to
creating a homunculus. So if you can't make this herbal stone,
then they almost make it seem like you've got no
chance in making a homunculus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because in order so the steps of alchemy is right,
you do all the work, So you let the you
tie the toe down to the swan, and all these
other things that are that are symbolic for the process
as as they they illustrate it. But again it's only
to the initiate that is able to pick up on this.
But you have to you have to conduct the little
work first, the minor work, and when you do the
minor work, then you use that to do the great
work or the magnum opis. And then allegedly which the
magnum opus is, the philosopher's stone, right, that that's the
that's the true what they're trying to achieve. And according
even to full metal alchemists, you need and and text
that I've read too, you need the philosopher's stone in
order to create the homunculus, because that's what's going to
animate it to life. Similar to how the Philosopher's stone
can turn lead into gold, it can also create life.
So you have to sprinkle a little bit of it
into the water, I guess the hot dog water or
some of the homunculous water, and then it'll, you know,
it'll help animate it. Because that's that's the magic of
this substance. It's like, that's how much power has that
it can literally and that's that's truly the premise of alchemy.
Taking dead matter, dead material and enemy animating it to life,
giving life to inanimate matter, and purifying it to its
highest form. So that's why you would need, right, the gurr,
which we're going to be talking about this primordial almost
like the uh the prima material you will that you're.
Speaker 4: Able to get through the water work.
Speaker 2: According to Homer, and the golden chain, which then you
grab a supply of that and you stockpile a supply
of that gurr, that dried gurr, and then that's what's
going to aid you in the creation of the homunculus. Now,
what's interesting is that we've covered the libre of ak right,
we've talked about that alchemical process and how that leads
you to a homunculus. Maybe that's what the sunstone is,
bro the maybe the sunstone is the philosopher's stone or
the herbal stone or something, because there's always ingredients that
you can't quite pinpoint, but point being is that there
are multiple ways to skin a cat. How there are
multiple ways to create a homunculus. So you have the
ninth century version of the liber vak, which is like, hey,
you know, you take a Kyle carcass, you do all
the stuff, You beat it to a pulp with a
dog penis, et cetera, et cetera, boom forty days, which
is not nine months, by the way, forty days, forty nights.
Speaker 4: You open it up.
Speaker 2: You got this blob and then you put that into
the powdered bees and all that, and then it'll girl skin.
All that might have been encoded too, bro Like, all
that might have been coded, and the reason for that
being like, oh, it's to screen out the people who
shouldn't shouldn't be doing the work, right.
Speaker 3: But I mean there's another explanation for this too. That's basically,
until the eighteen hundreds, most people did believe in some
form of spontaneous generation of animals. That if you saw
like a dead carcass of like an animal out on
the road, and then all of a sudden it had
maggots in it, like a few days later. That legitimately,
like the scientifically you know, accepted theory of that was
that life was spontaneously generating from this old animal plants
faction to new animal plant matter. This is like before
germ theory and before they even like really considered microscopic
entities doing this. Now, of course, this is modern history.
I think that this is sometime around like fifteen hundreds
or sixteen hundreds, because if you wind the clock back
far enough, then you get like Democritus who was talking
about atoms being the smallest possible units of measurement and
that all everything that we see in our senses were
just opinions and illusions based on these small So I'm
positive that prior to the eighteen hundreds or sixteen hundreds
there were people that believed in something other than this,
like spontaneous creation. But for the last four hundred years
of our current times, this was like the go to theory.
So it wasn't even like if you you were sprung
up a conversation, you were like, hey, Man, did you
know that those larva and that carcass over there, like
that's just a cycle of life. Man? That wasn't you
being like stoned or having some deep philosophical thought that
was like conventional science that's only been the last one
hundred maybe two hundred years. If you're overly generous that
people are like, oh no, that's not how that works.
It works this completely different way. But it also I
think it should humble us because it's like, every one
hundred and fifty two hundred years, everything that you know
and believe completely changes to something you know entirely different.
So even now for like, oh, that's so silly. You
know that those idiots thought that larva was just spontaneously
being created from like a dead cow carcass. Whatever we
believe right now in like the one hundred and fifty
years is going to sound equally stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the part that interests me about the homunk
list the most is let me see why I can
get this to work or not?
Speaker 4: Is that it might be working maybe not.
Speaker 2: Who cares the that it's a possibility, because recently I've
seen in the news that they are just coming out
with artificial embryos that have no father or mother. So
this is quite literally a possibility to this day. And
I believe that the stuff that they're showing us in
the media is just the tip of the iceberg. I
believe that the industrial military the military industrial complex has
had this sort of technology for a while now, and
they choose to reveal what they want.
Speaker 4: And if they're talking about this now.
Speaker 2: They might have already proven it, and they might have
been already doing it for the last two or three
decades already, and it's just like, hey, now, let's put
it out to the public just to get a feel
for it, to see how let's test the waters out
little bit, right, and see how people feel about if
there's gonna be this ethical debate over it or not.
And then like, hey, by the way, here's this person
who was growing in one of these labs and they're
just fine, and we could probably use them for like labor,
cheaper labor, because technically they don't have a soul, you know,
there's nothing this wasn't created through. And then that's where
you get a whole other can of worms, if you will.
And that's been one of the main ones recently, as
recent as let me see here. Artificial embryos was just
revealed not too long ago, actually, so.
Speaker 3: I mean, but it would still require like the male mercury. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, according to this, so researchers create this is one
of the latest ones that I've seen when we pull
this up, this is one that I've seen recent that
people have been sending to me as well. They're like, hey,
have you seen this. I'm like, I mean, dude, they're
talking about it now. It's been around for a minute.
Speaker 3: So this is what I mean, even through clone Eate, right,
but even like that one alien Cultarelians they claim to
have made a clone of Eve where they named Eve
in the nineties the girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and supposedly it's a healthy girl. But this
is one of the main when researchers create mice born
from two male parents. And let me find the other
one that I've had people message me, I actually had
a guy. Donald Trump is also making this illegal now,
So synthetic human embryos created in groundbreaking advanced So synthetic
human embryos created alchemically.
Speaker 3: This does make sense, Like you could have two deaths.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three. Bro, this dude sent me, Oh yeah,
We've talked about this before, synthetic.
Speaker 2: Human embryos created. This was more than a year ago,
and according to the laws, you can't keep them alive
for more than fourteen days.
Speaker 3: That sounds like amunculus.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Listen, dude, I'm not saying it's a homunculus, but it
lines up right, like it lines up.
Speaker 4: With creating art.
Speaker 2: The point of the homunculus is creating artificial life through
the use of you know, alchemy is a spiritual sort
of thing, occult, but using science. Because alchemy was the
precursor to chemistry, which is one of, you know, one
of the main branches of science, I would consider it.
And here we have these people creating synthetic human embryos,
and the reason that they're synthetic is so that they
can get around the laws because technically, yeah, there is
laws against.
Speaker 4: Using human embryos.
Speaker 2: But what if that's a copy of a copy? What
then you can get around the ethics of.
Speaker 3: This is like, this is like K two version of
an embryo. Yeah, like they tweak a little molecule.
Speaker 2: Again, Yeah, it might make you swim around the floor
like a snake, but hey, you're still gonna get you know,
you're gonna still feel it. But when I see things
like this, it solidifies my belief that the homunculus could
have been a real thing, maybe once or twice throughout history.
Right because they say, according to Basil Valentine or any
of these other guys, that only a certain few throughout
the years achieved the magnum opus. So that would make
sense that only a certain few, and by a certain
few probably I can think off the top of my head,
maybe three alchemists that allegedly created the Philosopher's Stone. You know,
you got Eugene Consalier and this other guy with Fulcanelli,
where they allegedly created the Philosopher's Stone. Fulconelli disappeared. You
have Besil Valentine who he also disappeared.
Speaker 4: And if you want to.
Speaker 2: Think about Edward Kelly, he allegedly created the Philosopher's Stone,
and I mean he died, but he was imprisoned in
the tower for a long time by rude Off the second.
But anyway, besides the point, a point being that it
was only.
Speaker 4: A select few that were able to achieve this.
Speaker 3: So what it may be because because one of the
things that the Philosopher's Stone is supposed to allow you
to do is to live forever. It's it's supposed to
give immortality if you and bibe it, meaning if you
like eat on it. And I don't know if you
got to eat like like a little piece every day
or like once in a I don't know what the
actual prescription is, but it seems that if you live
forever after eating the Philosopher's Stone, then you couldn't really
die unless again we're just talking about immortality, or but
here's immortality.
Speaker 2: Here's here's how I've come to understand the Philosopher's Stone
Because the Philosopher's Stone, right, they do talk about eating it.
They talk about it that it's sweet in that year,
and this is one of the descriptions that Lushuski gives
when he's like feeding the homunculus, that it's very sweet
and odor and we'll jump into that after this. But
the Philosopher's Stone, we've come to think of it as
an actual stone. But what if it's like a breakthrough
of in reality like space and time like, Because the
way I've come to understand the Philosopher's Stone is that
the reaction from the light once once you achieved the
Philosopher's Stone.
Speaker 4: That reaction in that.
Speaker 2: Light alters your DNA, so that's when then you're able
to step out, so it alters you. You become like
this sort of light being. You're able to step outside
of space and time.
Speaker 4: So you wouldn't need.
Speaker 2: To eat the stone if you're already this angelic being
that's outside of space and time manipulating reality. And it's
like the Black killed like peace out, I'm out of here,
and you can go to another point in time. And yeah,
they live for it yet because it seemed like that,
because they're blipping in and out of reality every now
and again, like you know, it's bringing like the story
of Baron Trump and the Marvelous under Ground Adventures, like hey,
he kind of looks like him there. Well, what if again,
they had access to some sort of technology that allowed
him to exist in that in that time and then
exit in and out. I don't know if there's some
portal or something into this time. And I don't know, dude.
I mean, that's the way I.
Speaker 3: Usually if you start with the little work, because I mean,
I guess the way that I'm trying to understand this
is that the reason you would start with the little
work and then make the philosopher's stone, and then make
the mounculus. Is because all of these rely on previous
disciplines that you can only make philosopher's stone if you
know how to make the lesser work first, or the
little work. But they also describe the little work that
once you make this herbal stone, that it seems like
it's just good forever. And when one of the claims
is usable, you can you can introduce any other herb
and without having to go through the entire process all
over again, you can just introduce that herb to your
herbal stone, and the herbal stone will do the work
for you. It'll extract the essence and the mercury of
this new herb that you introduced it to. And I'm
just wondering, like can you pass this down? Like can
I put that on eBay and someone buys it and
they use it for one hundred years, and then their
kids put it on eBay and someone else gets it,
Like is there literally no limit to the end of this?
And I guess the same thing with a philosopher's stone,
like can you pass the philosopher's stone on? Or if
it's a portal right, Does that mean that wherever Edward
Kelly opened that portal or wherever he discovered this philosopher's stone,
is it just waiting for someone else to just turn
it back on? Like is it there forever? Or does
it like die when you die or does it die
when you lose interest with it? Because at least in
the book that we read here, this book by doctor
Joseph Letshewsky, it almost implies that every wh I are
some kind of maintenance, which sounds like a lot of
extra work. Like if you've already created the thing that
can give you immortality, you should be able to hang
the rest of it up right and just be like,
I'm cool, I'm done. This is my retirement plan. Is
I've got a Philosopher's stone.
Speaker 4: Now it might all be bullshit, Thomas, like, that's the now.
Speaker 3: I refused, But there's no way that this many men
in history would waste this much time on something that
wasn't true.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, do we talked about the concept of
like video games on the phone, where you're putting all
your time into a video game to get Dude, I
put so much time until I got a herbal stone. Dude,
I put so much time into Path of Exits. I
got a level ninety seven necromancer with the sickest specters
that you could ever use in the game for what
for nothing? And then once it's immortality, well, once you
pass on them, nobody, if nobody can log into my account,
they can't use it.
Speaker 3: So I see, who are you going to be pure
of hearts? That's the problem here is that you're not
pure of heart, so you're not going to actually be
to achieve the true like top level, like level one hundred.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's cool. Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2: So we can buy an alchemically charged stone without chemical
magic and transformation activation for a cool one hundred and
thirty five dollars.
Speaker 4: It's on Etsy. We can get it right now, I
can buy it.
Speaker 3: I actually looked at a lot of these man and
them I went down like a rabbit hole looking at
like at Sea and Amazon items. Because there was also
a reference that Frader said, we're not giving medical advice here.
I just need to preface that. But he was making
all these claims that you don't need modern drugs, and
then if you just take the essence of these twelve
or thirteen different like herbal tinctures, each one aligning with
a different classical planet month of birth. Took these like,
for example, like every Monday, you gotta take one, Every
Tuesday you gotta take another one, and then it just
solved all of his issues, particularly he had like these
weird gastro intestinal issues with like a stomach. I mean,
he did die of colon cancer, I believe, but anyways,
like aside from the fact that he died for the
thing that he claimed that he had a a solution to,
but he said that this was like the way, And
so I started looking up these particular items on Amazon
and then I was like reading the reviews and then
some people are like, this one's okay, but it doesn't
include the monoatomic gold that it needs. So then I
went down a rabbit hole of like like when you
need monoatomic gold added to these? And I was just wondering,
is this another one of those read between the lines,
like if you're just an idiot, you go and buy
the thirteen different tinctures, but if you're smart, you also
add the monoatomic gold to your cart, and now you're
like a real alchemist versus.
Speaker 4: Fall advertising man.
Speaker 2: No, I don't that's not cool. I think you should
tell the truth from the beginning and let right. But yeah,
I know exactly what you're talking.
Speaker 3: A whole bunch of people live in forever. That seems
like it would lose.
Speaker 4: It's not sure, yea.
Speaker 2: And again you could be absolutely right that it is
only for the initiates, and only the initiates know, like, hey,
you got to make sure you sprinkle a little bit
of that primordial gir in there, and that's what activates
the real stuff and that's when you're able to live forever.
Speaker 4: But not everybody knows that.
Speaker 3: Here we're talking the girl, I think is only required
for you know, let's get into it, and for the
Philosopher's Stone. But wait, before we get into that, do
you think that the herbal stone, the little work? Do
you think that that is possibly like metaphorical, because in
the way that it's described, it sounds like a very real, objective,
physical thing that you're making in a lab that has
real physical properties.
Speaker 2: If I'm if we're going solely based off of the book. Yes,
they made it seem like it was an actual stone
that you could put in a dust drawer somewhere and
bring it out whenever you want it. So yeah, physical
actual stone thing.
Speaker 3: And and final point on this too, just to drive
this in a little bit, but he made this claim
that the guy that Israel Regardi, I believe, said that
he made like three or four of these things eventually
it took him a long time, but that Frader Albertas
never made even one. He was he taught people how
to make them, but that he himself was never able
to make one.
Speaker 4: I think it was Israeli that could never make.
Speaker 3: Israel Regardi mentioned that one that he was er was
it Joseph Lezhevsky that said that he made three or
four in Israel Regardy, But in the book Frader never
made an herbal stone, But I was I was just
wondering though, because they they mentioned that you would have
to do this over and over and like show it
to the rest of your classmates and prove that you're
able to make this thing, and that the people that
were able to make it, they would be partnered up
with like other lab partners that used the exact same recipe,
even down to use the same like glasses and beak
and like the custom glassware. Yet they weren't able to
make the herbal stone. This is where that thing about
like you had to be pure of heart, or you
had to you had to have already gone through the
alchemical process at a spiritual level in order for it
to work in the physical level. And that's I guess
that's one of those stipulations that I just can't get
over very well, because I feel like, if you had
the right recipe, you could just tell a robot how
to do it, and now the robot's cranking out little
work left and right.
Speaker 4: But a robot doesn't have a soul and it can't
be purified, so it's not pure of soul. So therefore
it would never work. And that's the thing that's.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the un uncontrolled variable. I guess you
could say, where you need to be pure of heart,
how do you measure that? How do you measure pureness
of heart?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like the test is easy. It's whether
or not you can make an herbal stone. So I
actually challenge you on to make an herbal stone, and
if you're unable to, it proves that you are not pure.
Speaker 4: Of heart, and that I don't care about the truth.
Speaker 3: The capital t correct, but I mean, the book does
tell you to not care about the truth and just
care about money.
Speaker 2: Yes, and only those who are able to read between
the lines will truly extract the information that it's being
that is being conveyed within this book, So proceed with caution.
And again there's a lot of intricacies. And this book
is more of like a journal slash. It's got a
bunch of research papers in there as well, so it's
not your traditional book, right, it's more like some of.
Speaker 3: The claims he makes though, I mean, it makes it
sound like, be careful, you're going to learn how to
make a real homunculus, You're going to learn how to
do all of these alchemical and then he he gets
very specific on some of the claims, where, oh, you
have to use like a six neutral molecule in this sequence,
and of course you know you would have to know
all this. But then on the very next page he's
talking about how someone poop pooed his ideas. Yeah, and
I've just never seen someone jump from like Philosopher's Stone,
like you know, self enlightenment to talking about chemistry to
them talking about poo poo.
Speaker 2: Let's let's give the people what they want they want
to learn about the water work that people want to
try it out, they want to be at home, they
want to collect the rain water, they want to electrify it.
Speaker 3: Let's show the picture again just so that you know
what a master someone that made three or four different
little works herbal stones, and then finally this was I
guess this is like intermediary to creating a legitmunculus that
if you do this Hermi's golden chain water work thing
that it's kind of a light.
Speaker 2: Ye, Hermes Hermeis and Homer Homies Homie's golden chain, Tomy's
golden Is that what.
Speaker 4: That sound was about? Dosio chain?
Speaker 2: Hang?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: Does it was that?
Speaker 3: That was actually about alchemical works out of electrified rain water?
For sure?
Speaker 2: All right, so all right, that's that's what we're looking
at there. Are you sure that's the right picture?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I'm one hundred percent that this is
the photo that they took of this particular crustacean water
where I don't even know if this is a homunculus
in the same way again, it's like leading into this
is SPOUSI yeah, its spontaneous generator.
Speaker 2: I would call it a homunculous slide. I guess you
could because you made it spontaneously through this all chemical process.
Speaker 3: This is this is the K two homunculus. Maybe in
a way, Yeah, it's not as cool. I mean claims
to have made a real homunculus, or at least a
portion of a real homunculus. They just turned into like
a grotesque humanoid, kind of like bloody figure. But his
camera was like a little bit wonkey when yeah, he
just couldn't get it to focus on this thing. And
and it makes sense, though, It makes sense that you
would spend four or five decades of your life focused
on this one grand experiment, and then once you found
some excess with this grand experiment, you would try to
take a couple of pictures, see that they were going
to be out of focus, and then just give up.
That seems like something I would do too.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna walk you guys through what the water
work is and then we'll get into the homunculus. So
the analytical technique applying to the water work in the
Golden Chain of Homer take a quantity of dew, rain, snow,
or hail if you like. But the most expeditious way
is if you can take rain water from a thundershower,
receive it into clean glazed vessels, and filter it in
order to separate the dirt from it, which intermixes from
the roofs of houses, and will, afterfiltration have a clear,
crystalline water of no particular taste, in fact, a fine
clear water, fit to be used like any other fine water.
Place this collected water in a warm garret where neither
the sun nor moon can shine upon it. Cover the
vessels with a linen cloth to prevent the dust from
getting into it. Let it stand a month unmoved, and
if the place is warm enough, you will by this
time perceive an alteration in the water, because this water begins,
by the power of the implanted spirit, to grow warm,
although imperceptibly, and to break. It begins to ferment and
putrefy and acquire a bad smell, and you will observe
that it becomes too turbid, although it was perfectly clear
at first, and a brown spongy earth ascend swimming at
the top, which increases daily and from its weight falls
to the bottom. So this is essentially taking water putrefying
it in this soapy, foamy thing. At the stop here
you see a separation occasioned by the ingrafted spirit of
the gross from the subtle. The separated earth is brown,
spongy or like wool, slimy and slippery. In this slimy
earth is the universal gurr of nature. And that's what
we're looking for, Okay. The gurr, the preademic earth is
the base material from which the three kingdoms of nature,
the minneral, vegetable, and animal, are created. Okay, So that's
what we're looking for. This this gurr that comes from
essentially this electrified rain water. And then if you let
it sit, you know, some in some places I saw
one hundred and twenty five gallons and another time he
said two hundred gallons.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then if you have acid rain, then you have
to distill it and then re electrify it. You have
to get a certain pH so it can get a
little wonky, especially if we try it modern day because
of all the pollution and everything that's in the air.
Speaker 3: So he claimed that a simple vandigraph machine could help
purify it in a way, which I just found interesting
because maybe when in an early nineteen eighties, when he
was doing this work, a vandigraph might have been fairly
novel and like hard to get a hold of. But
you can go on Amazon and get a vandigraph machine
right now for like sixty bucks.
Speaker 2: For sixty dollars, you're that much closer to creating homeculous
improving everybody.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So here he gets into you know, in the Golden
Chain of Homework, it talked about it. You can collect
it from the roofs. But then if on today's standards,
there's a lot of buildings that are grounded, so you know,
if it touches your roof, it's gonna get decharged.
Speaker 4: So that wouldn't work. So hence, the water.
Speaker 2: Collector from such structures retain its electrical charge and was
suitable for the experiment in that time period. So make
sure that you don't get it from your rooftop because
it can get contaminated. As a consequence, rainwater collected from
buildings in present day would lack the critical electric charge component.
Speaker 4: YadA, YadA, YadA. So then he gets here, or he.
Speaker 2: Tells you if a murky reddish brown substance remains in
the distillation flask, the presence of a rain can be suspected,
requiring all the rain water to be distilled prior to putrefaction.
In this way, a contaminant free gur can be a shirt.
So if you have contaminated gurr, it's not gonna work.
So if you're if your neighbors are watching you constantly
boil this water you collected in your backyard over and
over again. They might not know about this process, but
just let them know that you're about to make a
homunculus with contaminant free gurr.
Speaker 4: Okay, so uh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, he gets into the whole thing, right, the van
de graph generator to charge the water. So the steps
are water collection. Here we have one hundred and twenty
five gallons. I've seen two hundred, so we don't know.
The next step is putrefaction. Once you make sure that
that one hundred and twenty five gallons of water is uncontaminated,
you have to let it putrefy and that's when you're
gonna get this little gurr. And then you have the
electrif electricrification if you have to re electric uh, and
then the ger production. So one hundred and twenty five
gallons of distilled an electrified rainwater was placed in ten
plastic food grade containers, each with a capacity of fifteen
gallons two controls were established. So then he did like
these controlled experiments, like he got some from the roof
of the house that was not filtered, that was filtered
but not electrified, and then he did another one that
it was filtered and electrified.
Speaker 4: Right, so he's like trying to find it.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: He tells you the controls seventy five to eighty five
degrees for ninety days, and then he talks about his conclusions.
The ten containers which had been distilled and electrified showed
a thirty nine percent per container higher yield of ger
when compared to control two, and a fifty one percent
higher yield per container one compared to control one.
Speaker 4: So, uh, if you collect.
Speaker 2: The ten gallons from the roof that was filtered and electrified,
you get fifty one percent more yield. So purification is key,
Filtration is key. Make sure that whenever you're taking this
water it's as pure as can be, and got to
make sure it's electrified.
Speaker 4: So he did a total thirty seven experiments over a
three year period.
Speaker 2: Okay, and he only succeeded on the thirty fifth, thirty six,
and thirty seventh experiment and then he stopped and then yeah,
and then he stopped.
Speaker 3: That's the wildest part to me, that if I did
something forty times and it only worked the last three times,
that I would just do it those last three and
then be like, all right, I guess I've learned everything
there is to learn. Here it's time to And I
never fixed my camera with the out of focused lens.
Speaker 2: So that's the water work. Now, according to this, and
according to fred er Albertus, you need the ger You
need a substantial amount of girl, which we'll give you
the exact amount here, and with that gerr is what
you are presenting in the you know, the homunculous experiment
in order to bring forth the honks. Now Here he
gets into the into the background of the homunculus and
why the idea came to be right, the preformationism that
all of sperm essentially was a little man first and
then it was like the things that you don't remember
as a kid, those things that you would put in.
Speaker 4: The water that would grow bigger.
Speaker 3: No, not shrimp brine, No.
Speaker 2: Those are sea monkeys. That's different. Those are the things
that you put into water. And there's like actual little organisms.
I'm talking about the little colorfied animals that you would
put into water and they would grow bigger.
Speaker 3: Oh, the little like sponges and the pills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how people viewed Preformationism. Essentially, it was a
little you know, we all exist as little forms first
and then we grow into the big forms. Okay, now
here he talks about what you were mentioning earlier, that
some of the things in pair Celsus work the naturer rerum,
which essentially is the first time ever where the term
homunculus has used. That maybe some of the he was
either skipping steps or putting in wrong steps in order
to keep people out of it. And this he gets
into this whole thing here, and that the acronym will
be like what was that in all these other things?
And the water was that the sperm like all these
he was he was reading it over and over and
over again, trying to extract the true knowledge of what
the hell how.
Speaker 4: To make it right.
Speaker 2: So he talks about this other method here where this
dude was taking and egglated by a black hen, put
a tiny hole in it and inserted his semen and
the first day of the lunar march cycle. According to
the guy, a miniature humanoid figure would emerge from the
egg after thirty days.
Speaker 4: He talks about the man Drake.
Speaker 2: And how you could infuse that and make into a homunculous.
So he's talking about the basic, you know, homunculous type
of thing.
Speaker 4: And then he talks.
Speaker 2: About a friend of a friend in the Golden Dawn
that allegedly had a actual homunculus and that he saw
a picture. Of course, he doesn't include the picture, but
let's read that Heroal quick I detected frustration, et cetera,
et cetera. So I think I believe he was talking
to Regardi and why regard he was interested in this
homunculous work. So I detected his frustration not being able
to engage in such an experimental work himself, and at
the same time his desire to be filled in on
every part of the process, if indeed it could be
done at all. I got the very distinct impression he
was trying to relate the idea of the homunculus to
some type of closely guarded magical work, and so asked
him if this was the reason for his interest and
the feelings I detected from him during our lengthy discussions
on the issue. In a very thoughtful way, as if
being careful of what he said in the manner in
which he said it, he replied, well, there is something,
or rather there was, but it was a long time ago,
when I was in the Golden Dawn. To be frank,
my memory fails me on a lot of things these days,
of course, especially from so long ago. But as I recall,
I heard of one fellow who claimed to have made
it the homunculus, and who was working to raise it
properly back then. This was back in London. He was
a friend of one of our order members. So he
was a friend of a friend, but refused to join
the order itself. He said he didn't trust the chief
or the adepts of the Order and so wanted to
have none of it.
Speaker 3: But as I do even need to if you're already
making anculus, Yeah, do you need to join a club?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? You don't need those people. You already
figured it out. You don't need that shit. So uh,
But as I said, he was a friend of one
of our group, of one of our group, and so
the two discussed it closely, or so I was told.
But that wasn't all, you know, how rumors are bound
in this business. So when I heard about it from
the other Order member, I didn't think too much about
it at the time, except to find it fascinating. Frankly, though,
I don't think I really believed any of it. But
then I was shown a photograph of it, one taken
by its maker. There was a yardstick directly behind the thing,
and it was only about ten inches tall. But I
have to tell you, it looked like a well formed,
perfect miniature human. It didn't look like any fake or
a doll or anything like that.
Speaker 4: No, it was so real.
Speaker 2: I felt that if I reached out and touched the photo,
I'd feel living flesh. You could see life in its eyes.
Like I said, it was no fake. Everything about it
was correct. It was so well proportioned. The head and fingers,
especially those tiny fingers looked just perfect at the right
length and so well fitted to that pee wee hand. Fascinating.
Speaker 3: So props to this guy that was strolling his friend
his friend's whole little like Golden Order lodge by like
making like a really convincing looking fake photo and just
being like, look, bro, no one could fake this. Look
at a photo, you know what I mean, And everyone
was just like, oh, my god, this guy knew how
to make a homunculus.
Speaker 2: Well, if we go back to that time, which is
this is probably the I don't know, early to mid
nineteen hundreds, you couldn't do photoshop. I mean, I'm sure
you could fake something, but hey, he was a friend
of a friend. Never saw except I saw the photo
and that's what it looked like.
Speaker 3: So what resolution was this photo? We're talking like a
twelve K digital photo.
Speaker 4: You don't know.
Speaker 3: You can like it.
Speaker 4: Like Polaroid, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is again, this is the story. This is how
it goes. This is why regard he was so interested
in the concept. Since that day, I kept this memory
to myself, mostly because it was so strange and had
gotten myself in enough trouble by releasing the Golden Down material.
But what I was really intrigued with was the fact
that this fellow said there were magical techniques he was
using to raise it, raise and train it. Of course
this really pulled me in, but I never heard about
it or saw any more photos after that, as I
left the order a few months later. This is why
I'm interested. It's such a thing possible, and if it is,
does magic have any role in its upbringing. Really about
the closest I ever got to the subject was the
magical child. Right we discussed so many years ago, and
the paper I gave you on it. Now this is
talking about this allegedly paper that I'm sure we can't
find online, that regard he gave to Lushouski about this
magical child, and that whenever he.
Speaker 3: Was luonchild almost literally a moonchild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then whenever he was.
Speaker 2: So now that you're on the verge of actually attempting
this thing, well you can see why I'm so interested.
Speaker 3: So then.
Speaker 2: Again he had given him a paper on how to
raise this magical child, et cetera, et c.
Speaker 3: I think there was funny context because the context of
him giving this paper on the magical child is that
Lashevski at a couple parts in this book are like,
you know, I have I've got a wife, but we
decide not to have a kid because there's just there's
just no time for the kid with all of this,
like important lab work and all of my professional life.
Yet this guy spends forty years trying to make like
a homunculus. And then I think at a certain point
Israel Regardi is like look dude, like he spent four
decades in the lab with a bunch of other dudes.
Why don't you just go and have a kid with
your wife and just do one of these Like I
almost feel that he was nudging him along, like he
knew that it wasn't a moonchild or a magical child.
He was like, bro, like you can't keep saying that
you're too busy, Like, just go and take care of business.
Speaker 2: So now we step into a conversation between Lashouski and
freder Albertus, and it was the conspiracy was that freder
Albertus was pushing Lashuiski to do it because of his
moral compass and that he had at one point, according
to Regard, he achieved the work and got far enough,
but couldn't finish it because of his moral views. Okay,
so now this is a conversation between freder Albertas and
Lashouski where he calls him up on the phone and
he's like, hey, you know he agreed and asked me
to teleughh on him that Sunday evening for quote, what
will be a long and hard discussion. It is time
you begin the work. Just make certain you have enough
of the girl left the rest. You can take care
easily enough. So this is before the call that they
had where he breaks everything down for Lashouski and tells
him exactly what he's got to do, how he's got
to do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is basically him just telling him how he
needs to bang his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I then then I contemplated his remaining console
on the matter. Regardless of the these conditions, the creature
had existed and only remains for an alchemist. But to
bring him up a process that is no more difficult
than which was used to generate him, This raising process,
and he's talking about paracelsis here. This raising process may
be accomplished by feeding the creature daily over a period
of forty weeks with the acronym of human blood. But
yet throughout this time, the forming creature must not be
removed from the dunghill on which he was formed. At
the end of this time, there will be a living child,
having every member as well as proportioned as any infant
born of a human woman, and he will be more
He will be smaller and more frail than a normal
human child, though, and will be and will require more
care and attention in his education with physical education being stressed.
So he's talking about Paracelsus and he's contemplating. He's like,
you know, what does all this mean? Somewhere in all
of this.
Speaker 4: It all came together, so you got to breakthrough. For now,
I saw the process of separation had been invoked during
the puture faction of the rain water which had produced gurr,
and the combination would occur when the man ill sperm,
my sperm would impregnate the mother gir.
Speaker 2: So the concept is you have this primordial substance, right,
and you have to introduce to it the living water
while still warm.
Speaker 3: Well, he describes it too that the ger and mother
earth is the salt. So the same way that you
were making the herbal stone, where the stone itself was
the salt, and then you had to put the mercury
onto the salt. This is now him saying like, okay, well, now,
since the gur is the salt, now the male, the
human being is the mercury, or produces the mercury. And
that's that was the other way that he kind of
described this alchemical equation.
Speaker 4: Yes, so.
Speaker 2: Albertus calls him and during that night telephone conversation, you
probably announced afraid of Alberta's the summer substance of his thesis.
Speaker 4: To my absolute delight, he confirmed it completely.
Speaker 2: I informed him I had seventeen grand girl left after
performing all of the water work, and that I prayed
this quantity would be sufficient for starting this work. So
this is where everyone take notes. He explained to me
that only four grams would be needed. So the waterwork
that we explained earlier, make sure you have at least
four grams of that, and that's all you're gonna need,
and you can save the rest for like more homunculous
down the road. So the four of the girl, four
grams of the gur, yes, which you have to dry,
and then you know, you kind of keep it in
like I guess a powdered form.
Speaker 4: I guess you would say, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh So he explained to me that only four grams
would be needed and that I should save the rest
for future trials. It will not be easy, he cautioned,
you will most likely suffer several false starts until you
get the hang of it, particularly with proper supplying. With
properly supplying the growing fetus with the acronym of blood
and air. So this is the other important part you
have to take into consideration. Make sure you eat a
healthy diet, that you're peer of heart, and.
Speaker 4: We'll explain the rest.
Speaker 2: For the rate at which blood flow is regulated is crucial,
as is the fact that the blood must.
Speaker 4: Come from you and from no one else.
Speaker 2: You are the father and must extend yourself in the
mechanical procedures of nurturing by controlling the rate of blood
flow to the fetus, just as the girl will nurture
by doing her part constantly throughout the gestation period. Controlling
the airflow will not be difficult, as you will see.
But controlling the blood flow, ah, there is the rub.
Yet you can do it with great care and diligence.
So again, the airflow to the fetus not going to
be your problem here, okay. Your problem is going to
be controlling the flow of blood that needs to come
from you, okay, And you have to do this first.
Speaker 3: So when I'm reading this, I'm just thinking, like the
dudess just having a hard time jerking off, And that's
what he's talking about, the blood, blood flow and the
pure thought like, because think about it, how hard would
it be to inseminate dirt. If all you had were
pure thoughts, you had to be absolutely pure. So like
you don't even have any material in the bank to
conjure up because you've been so pure your entire life. Yeah,
of course you're worried about blood flow at this very
important moment at the end.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the blood flow is very important. The airflow,
We're gonna let me just move my screens around here
a little bit. So we discussed the details of the experiment,
including the design of the vessel that would serve as
the womb for the creature. It was not so much
a difficult design as was the process behind its correct use.
For US Freight To explained to me, the apparatus is
not large. In fact, it stands no larger than six inches,
has two side arms for controlled airflow, and another side
arm for the injection of the acronym, which is the
which is only three inches in diameter. It must be
placed in a dunghill, as you correctly surmise, a sand bath,
and buried halfway up the vessel and left there undisturbed
for nine months. So again, you don't have to use
a dung hill. You can get a sand bath which
you can probably buy on ebear or Amazon for cheap.
And a sandbath is like this plate that you put
on it and it stays warm, right, so you have
to keep it at ninety eight point sixty So, taking notes, everyone,
ninety eight point six degrees fahrenheit the temperature of the
human body.
Speaker 3: Okay, does this imply that at some point in history
horse dung and cow dung stayed at ninety eight degrees
for more than a few hours, because it would almost
seem that if you've got horse or were they like
constantly replacing.
Speaker 2: Then so you fell for it, Thomas, You fell for
one of the traps because you're not supposed to use
a dung hill. You're supposed to use something else. You're
supposed to use an all chemical furnace or something to
keep the correct temperature. This is why alchemy is all
about mastering the flame and the temperature of the flame,
which is something that Israel regard. He couldn't figure out
on how to use the furnace that that Lushuiski had constructed,
and he couldn't figure out how to make the seventeinctures
because he couldn't control the temperature. And this is why
they call alchemy the religion of fire because you need
to master the fire and master the temperatures. So you
fell four Paracelsis as a cult blind by keeping it
in the dungh, you were never gonna succeed.
Speaker 4: Thomas because he was the tricky guy.
Speaker 2: He was a tricky guy, absolutely, So you have to
keep it there undisturbed for nine months. That is the
only part of the process that is incorrect. I suspect
Paracels and others who did this work purposely gave the
wrong figure here to stop the idle curious from attempting
this work.
Speaker 4: So we we.
Speaker 2: Unveiled the truth here on the Ocult Book Club by
telling you the truth of what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Okay, Sam, expecting some.
Speaker 3: Like viewer submitted videos and pictures of whenever you you
jerk off into the dirt and you let it sit
in a sand bath for nine months, send us a
picture of what it looks like afterwards.
Speaker 2: It's got to be in the girl though. You can't
just jerk off onto sand and expect to.
Speaker 3: R right right what I mean? Yeah, I'm being like
pair of don't be so crude. I'm trying to bear well.
You know, I'm using dung instead of sand bath.
Speaker 2: Enough with the homo erotic stuff, right, let's get let's
get down to business, because uh it. In fact, I
suspect that this is why Paracelsius states the creature has
no body, will be transparent or invisible for forty.
Speaker 4: Days, yet must still be worked with. This is a ruse,
This is all of this is all a trick. This
is all a fasaw we figure it out.
Speaker 2: It takes every bit of nine months to create the creature,
as you were about to find out. Right, So he
tells them about you know, provide just enough air movement
to allow for refreshing air in the womb without disturbing
the fetus. The rate of air flow should be no
more than two feet per minute, so the forming fetus
is not disturbed, but it's still So take notes, everyone,
no more than two feet per minutent air rate. Okay,
and you're gonna get You're gonna get a beaker with
two inlets. Okay, You're gonna get a sandbath ninety eight
point six degrees. And this is all after you do
the water work and you collect at least four grams
of girl. Okay, So uh you'll be able to tell
the aeration is proceeding at the proper rate when small,
little lazy ripples appear and move across the surface of
the ger sperm combination. Also make certain that both the
rubber two vents remain open during the breathing cycle. This
allows the easy passage of airflow through the vessel, over
the fetus and out the exhaust port. This has to
be done every seventy two hours, no more, no less. Okay,
So you need to errate this thing every seventy two
Are you guys writing this down every seventy two hours,
No more, no less, okay, at a rate of two
feet per minute. To man, we're we're cooking with gas here.
There is something else, says a artists. There's a great
danger that the developing fetus will be contaminated with bacteria
from the outside during the aeration process. Each of the
rubber two vents or side arms on both sides of
the vessel must be fitted with a ball air lock,
the kind you use when fermenting your herbs for the
herbal stone. So again, you've already had this equipment, So
make sure you take the ball airlock and you put
them on the tubes that are that are coming out
of this vessel. You have to use it because even
though you aerate the fetus every three days, the vents
must remain open to the air at all times during
the nine month gestation process. Gases will be evolved by
the fetus during its development, and you will have to
vent the vessel without letting any contaminants in. And be
certain you use potassium by sulfight in the ball locks
to kill any bacteria or mold that might enter through
the open end of the locks. So sterility must be
a shirt. So okay, So get some potassium by sul fight.
Make sure you have some of that on I'm sure
you can find that on Amazon as well.
Speaker 4: And right here that's.
Speaker 2: Where he talks about the amount of acronym you have
to put in to it. So my concerns were now
with the regulating blood flow, so I impatiently interjected, how
is the flow of the acronym regulated? How often is
it supplied to the fetus? Make sure you guys write
this down. It is difficult. You will have to determine
the exact rate for your case yourself. As a general guideline,
only you will use the the the third side on
or the vessel for adding the acrem Okay, so I
guess there's three arms on this thing instead of two,
so we we.
Speaker 3: He mentioned that a lot of these experiments required custom
glass work that you couldn't just go and buy like
a regular pelican, you know, beaker for example, that you
might have to make your own for a lot of this.
Speaker 4: It's doable, it's dual. We can do this, we can
do this. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I guess there's a third side on or the
vessel for adding the acronym. Add it with a hypodermic syringe.
So you need a hypodermic syringe one hundred millimeters at
a time. This will have to be done every three
to seven days. You will have to determine that for yourself. Okay,
So let's recap here. You need a vessel with three arms,
you need the ball locks, you need to be able
to sterilize the ball locks, and you're gonna feed it
your blood one hundred milli liters at a time every
three to seven days. But but, but, but, but but
you're gonna have to You're gonna have to play it
by you a little bit. Okay, Your homunculus might require more,
depends on your diet, depends on all you know, your
health and all that stuff. So you're just gonna have
to figure it out. Excess blood will begin to pull
at the top of the girl. When that occurs, stop,
don't put any more blood. Okay, if you put too much,
it's gonna start to pull at the top. When all
the pool blood, When all of the pool acronym has
disappeared and the surface of the girl begins to take
on a dry appearance, more must be added. So you
got to keep it kind of moist. Okay, you got
to keep this little ball kind of moist, all right.
Speaker 4: But be careful. It is possible to add too much.
Speaker 2: Or add it too quickly, at which at which time
the fetus will literally drown in the acronym. That is,
in the very life of which the blood is the
only vehicle, life of which the blood is the only vehicle.
As you were taught in class, right, So again, if
you didn't go to the Paracelsus Research Society, don't worry
about any of that. Like, it's fine, we got you here.
Just make sure you take these notes and report back
to Thomas and I. Okay, shoot us an email report back.
Speaker 3: There's no excuse for anyone to not make a homunculus.
Now that the entire recipe is laid out for you,
there's there is no reason for you to not be
doing this.
Speaker 2: Already, exactly right. You better get on it as soon
as you finish this episode.
Speaker 3: So I've got one. I've actually got I have one
that I've been working on. It's about eight months along.
I was trying to shoot my camp. It's this is
the stupidest thing. My camera won't go into focus. Every
time I try and show it you. The camera like
keeps zooming in and out focusing on it. As soon
as as soon as I fix my camera, well, I'll
show you a picture of it. I'll do a full
live stream everything. I'll show you eating the blood. It's
just stupid camera.
Speaker 2: Next episode, dude, It's fine, I understand. Next episode where
we have.
Speaker 4: To be pure heart for this stuff.
Speaker 2: So here's where the experiments in Life and Death. And
this is the shoe Ski journaling his days creating this homunculus. Okay,
but as we will see, he didn't see it all
the way through. So day one, beginning of the experiment,
the girl was sterilized using a standard electron bombardment technique.
Don't worry about this, guys. You know you only need
fifty So this time, not at fifty thousand volts at
twenty five microamps, was using the generation of animals, but
twelve thousand volts at twelve milliamps. Okay, bombardment six out.
The vessel was also sterilized using twelve thousand volts of
AC exposure time six hours. So the ger is gonna
be a sterilized for six what is it? Six hours
at twelve thousand volts twelve milli ampers milli amps, and
then the vessel six hours at twelve thousand.
Speaker 3: That math checks out. I double checked all this math.
That does actually equal out.
Speaker 2: Okay, just making sure and my own fresh sperm to
impregnate the gur and the vessel sealed and placed in
a sand bath at ninety eight point sixty degrees. So
you take the ger after you're done sterilizing it, you
take the sperm and you put it in the sand
bath at ninety eight points.
Speaker 3: I hate to be a stickler here, but he never
specifies the amount of sperm needed because I mean, I assume,
like some people are producers and some people might just
one producer, tiny.
Speaker 4: Little bit one shot, right, but I.
Speaker 3: Mean even a shot bro his shot is different kind
of anyway. Anyways, this was one of those other like
read between the lines like you have. If you're pure,
you can't reveal all the secrets what you're making here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't review all the secrets. You know what
I'm saying. You're gonna have to play it by ear again.
So if you need more, just make sure you add more.
Speaker 4: Just just you know. Day ten.
Speaker 2: The girl was fed twice already, and errated twice as well,
both times on days.
Speaker 4: Four and eight. Freder was right.
Speaker 2: The grayish mass absorbs the acronym as such a rate.
I could hardly believe my eyes. There's no distinguishable features
in the girl yet. I suppose I expect to see
something like an embryo, but with this work, I am
not sure.
Speaker 4: Certainly.
Speaker 2: Freder was no help at all when I asked him
this question. He would not give me a straight answer there,
except to laugh and tell me, when you see what
you see, you will tell me. Then you will join
me in my knowledge, and this work will be carried
on to the next generation, whatever the hell that means.
All I see is a grayish lines. Bro you gotta
be pure heart. All I see is a grayish mass
lying on the bottom of the womb, and nothing more
except that the blood is absorbed by the mass and
the air is removed through the evacuation. Side arm of
the vessel has a very distinct sweet odor, like the
fragrance that arises from a field of flowers in the spring.
It certainly has not decayed as in the three previous experiments,
and it is at least something curious. So I guess
he failed three other times before this particular one that
we're on right now. So day thirty something is happening.
Six days ago I gave another feeding an aerration. The
odor coming from the vessel during the evacuation of the
aeration is so sweet as to be overpowering. So if
you're getting the sweet smell, you know you're on the
right track. If you get the smell of death, start over, okay,
don't don't continue to heart.
Speaker 3: Work or is that what he wants you to think?
Speaker 4: Right? Might be right? Only one way to find out, So.
Speaker 3: As if you come and you smell death, maybe you're
on the right track.
Speaker 4: Every step of the way.
Speaker 2: Guys, make sure you email us you know, every few
days and show us your findings, and make sure just
to check out check in with us.
Speaker 4: Okay. So it is to my sense sickeningly sweet. But
that is not all. That is not all.
Speaker 2: Using a bright light in a magnifying glass, I saw
what appeared to be tiny red lines in the GIRR markings,
if you will, the type one season a map, the
details of which are taken by a satellite from space.
It also appears that the grayish mass is turning a
deeper gray in color, and that a black spot the
size of a very small pa has appeared near the
top of the mass that is facing east in the
sand bath. I have my opinions or rather ideas here,
but don't want to prejudice my own mind with some
fanciful misgivings. Time alone will tell. So fifteen days later,
there's no question about it. The tiny red lines have
be come bigger.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 2: They look like capillaries. The now dark grayish mass has
also taken on a shape. To me, it resembles a small,
curled up fetus. I cannot see any hands or appendages
of any kind, so simply note this. Additionally, the black
pea like structure has grown larger and more distinct. So
what do he says? As big as a pee?
Speaker 4: Is that? What is that?
Speaker 2: How we're the size of a very small pea? Grayish
mass turning deeper. Yeah, that's that's not very big.
Speaker 3: I imagine it's like when you crack open one of those eggs,
and like the egg might have been like not like you,
it was almost fertilized, and it has like the little
chunk of like a blood speck in it. I kind
of imagine that's what he's describing here.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: So Additionally, the black pea like structure has grown larger
and is a very glossy appearance, and it is fixed
in its position. The gird appears to be an eye
during its early formative stages. This is I remember remember
such things from my undergraduate zoology and biology classes. The
amount of the acronym required has also increased. Until I
see more progress, I will continue to call the grayish
mass just that a grayish mass. Having stated that the
grayish mass required the administration of one hundred and seventy
millimeters of blood every five days, an increase, so that that's, uh,
that's quite a bit more than what he was saying.
Here at one hundred three to seven, he's doing one
seventy every five days.
Speaker 3: Damn, do you think this is a humble brag? He's like,
if you just make like a normal homuncular, it might
drink one hundred millileaters of blood. But if it's like
one of my super humunks like these, these puppies are hungry.
These are one seventy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these are a way. This is a one seventy.
Speaker 3: This is outside your weight class.
Speaker 2: As always, the blood simply disappears into the mass. After
four days, the outside edges of the mass begin to
dry out, but only lightly. But the fifth day there
is a gentle dry appearance on the surface of the mass.
This time I had further.
Speaker 4: Our canum. I've been saying it rono acronym our our canum.
Speaker 2: Thus I have the process of aeration or breathing, as
Freighter has termed the process down, as well as the
proper time between feedings, at least for now, for certainly,
as this mask grows. If it does grow any further,
I expect the times between aerrations and feedings to decrease.
My only concern is that I will be able to
supply enough of the arcanum.
Speaker 4: To keep the experiment going.
Speaker 2: So he's kind of doubting his abilities here to supply
this thing with enough of his blood, right because he's
kind of, you know, he's getting kind.
Speaker 4: Of old, kind of frail. Got to keep up.
Speaker 2: Make sure you stay hydrated, drink a lot of electrolytes
and everything, have good you know, breakfasts, lunch, and dinner,
and just make sure to keep it up. So day sixty,
there can be no.
Speaker 4: Doubt about it.
Speaker 2: The red marketings are capitularies are transparent, being given away
by concentrations of blood in them at different points as
the arcanum courses through them. Additionally, the pea like object
has losts its glossy color. It is now flat black
in appearance and has grown larger. I estimate it is
now the size of a large pea or even a
small bean. But there is something else as well. The
dark grayish mass has definitely increased in size over the
past ten days. I estimate it has increased its size
by thirty percent. The amount of blood required during feedings, however,
has remained the same, so one hundred millimeters every five days,
aerration every four days day ninety. There is so much
condensation inside the vessel. I cannot be sure about what
I'm seeing. No doubt the water content of the semen
and the sperm has given rise to this fog. Up
until five days ago. This condensation has remained at the
bottom one third of the vessel, not anymore. The entire
womb is so fogged up. I can't tell what's happening
with any certainty. Aerration and feedings have been going on
as normal, I trust, eating time, since the girl still
drives out over its surfaces, over its surface, or seems
to as best I could visually determine, just as before,
although I can't see the surface of the ger mass
very clearly due to the condensation. Freder told me to
just continue with things as usual. He said the condensate
should clear up shortly and then I quote would see
something wonderful unquote we shall see day.
Speaker 3: This part was a little bit crazy to me, and
I'm swear I'm not just trying to be cross about it.
But he says that he attributes the condensation to the semen,
that he added to it what like over a month
ago at this point. Yet he's been introducing one hundred
to one hundred and seventy milli liters of blood every
single day. Yet he thinks it's the moisture from his
semen from over a month ago that's still providing all
of the condensation and moisture in this entire environment. I
don't get that part of it unless he's also introducing
more semen like every day along with the feedings of blood.
Speaker 2: And it's making me think that the gurr is the
muddy water at the top that you skim off because
you need to at least, But then four grams would
you measure water? And would you say, like middle leaders, like,
there's still a lot that we don't it's not these
these instructions aren't very clear.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to work it.
Speaker 3: Mine works, mine's working off. Oh my camera. Oh and O,
my camera just stopped working again.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll figure it out for the next stream, dude,
so you can show us though the homuncular So day
one twenty, the condensation cleared up fifteen days ago, and
it is now obvious that the mass is taken on
the shape of a crescent, although the points of the
crescent at the top and bottom are rounded somewhat more
like a distinct fetus.
Speaker 4: There seems to be some pulsing in it, but I
can't be sure.
Speaker 2: It's just too dark in the vessel, and the added
light I use only causes greater glare when trying to
make out such delicate vertical movements. So of course you
know you can't really see what's going on with the
glare and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yet at first one was the camera. Now it's a
lighting issue, I get.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, But there is something else also. I couldn't
believe my eyes, but Freighter told me it was the
something wonderful he told me about last month. There are
two tiny appendage like projections near the center of the mass,
and at the end of them what looks to be
even tinier small humps or bumps. These are quote arms
and hands. Those humps or bumps, as you call them,
are miniature fingers. You explained, aerration periods remain the same,
but the feeding time has increased, while the amount of
the arcanum arcanum arcanum whatever used to feed it has decreased.
Now only one hundred and thirty milli liters arcanum is
administered every seven days. So guys, adjust for the size
of your home. You're gonna learn the ways as you go. Okay,
it's a good thing too. It's getting difficult supplying the
life so often. My diet has changed to include mostly
red meats, and I started taking multi megas vitamins to
keep up with the demand. Still I feel fine. I
think my concern is more of a psychological matter than
it is a physical one. So can you also have
to psychologically prepare yourself for this because you're essentially growing
a homunculus, which is a huge undertaking, you know, if
you've really.
Speaker 3: Like your wife's asking you, like, what are you doing
in that shed back there today? Han, And you're just like,
I'm busy.
Speaker 4: I'm jerking off in the jars again. Damn it, leave
me alone, And I like to do that.
Speaker 3: He's kind of by proxy feeding his homunculus centrum silver.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, well one of the amends. He's feeding it
as well.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna get you know, have all the the
multi vitamins and everything. So day one hundred and fifty
or we're almost there. Great progress has been made. There
is no cloudness or content in the vessel whatsoever. And
the dark grayish masses turned to a light gray, making
it fairly easy to see what's going on in the
vessel when a strong light is used. Clearly the appendages
are miniature arms and the ends possessed fingerl like gross.
The eye has a film over it, much like an
actual eyelet, and there is a pulsating up and down
in motion.
Speaker 3: And here you go.
Speaker 2: I've tried to take photographs of the creature using my
German PROTATICA. We're gonna look this up to a thirty
five millimeter camera outfit, but I cannot get the resolution
I need. Even the PL three close up lens cannot
resolve what is going on down at the bottom of
the vessel. At least I have the hand drawings I made.
That will have to be enough. I don't think we
ever found the hand drawings, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got an actual photograph of the water work,
so yeah, I wouldn't trust a hand drawn image.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I see the kind of camera he used
heres like an old school kind of sort of that
with a thirty five millimeter lens. So I mean he
could have taken a picture of the setup, right, You
could have at least been able to tell what's going on.
I guess, Hey, I guess i'll ever know. But again,
the people listening now, they're gonna do, They're gonna try,
and're gonna send a picture, So that's all it really matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just don't use the Practica.
Speaker 2: Thirty five millimeter area or the pl three close up lens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're not gonna get a good picture. Just
use your iPhone.
Speaker 2: So erration has continued according to schedule in the administration
of Arkenham has also dropped over the last thirty days.
Speaker 4: Not only ninety million liters.
Speaker 2: Of blood is required and still only every seven days.
It is strange though the mass has increased approximately fifty
percent over the and above the earlier thirty percent increase,
yet less blood is required. Further told me, you have
to remember that there has not been enough work done
in this area, so we won't. We don't know if
this is normal or not, but continue as on as
best you can. This seems to be an about face
for him. My interpretation is that he took this experiment
only so far as regarding speculated, and had to abort
it no pun intended. That's why he can no longer
guide me on on what is happening in my experiment.
As far as I am concerned, I am, I am.
I am on my own now and just have to
feel my way as I go. Nevertheless, in my opinion,
things are looking up awesome. Keep up the great work
if you will. Day one eighty something is wrong. Everything
has changed over the past six days. The mass I
referred to as a creature at the bottom of the
vessel has turned a very dark gray, a brownish color
appearing in the rim of the crescent. There is only
slight pulsation as well, and the eyes I can make
it out through its lids seems smaller. I continue the
aeration as usual, and on day five of the day
six I noticed something amiss. I increase the supply of
arcadam back up to one hundred and thirty million meters.
I will continue this every five days, using both fresh
and stored blood.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, uh huh, Hey.
Speaker 2: That's where you messed up, dude, using both fresh and store.
But I say from earlier blood draws, it just feels
right at this point, because the thing may truly be starving,
I don't know what else to do. Hence my decision
to increase the food supply. All of it has been
absorbed by the thing. However, the color change disturbs me.
I think it is dying. Perhaps the increased quantity of
arcanum arcanum and the decrease time between feedings will bring
it back to health. So day two hundred and twenty, now,
I think in a nine month period, there's like two
hundred and seventy four days?
Speaker 4: Is that? How many? How many days and nine months?
That is two hundred seventy two seventy three so close.
Speaker 2: So technically this thing died on day two eighteen. He
didn't really make it, you know, that far he still
wasys to go. The experiment has ended. The thing died
two days ago. I have not been able to face
this failure, especially when I consider how much I gave
to it in terms of everything that was required. Even
though I continued to airate as usual and feed it
every five days, it was not enough. Two days ago,
when I started to aerate, the odor of death emerged
from the exhaust item of the vessel. The stench of
death is unmistakable, and Heaven knows, I've smelled it so
many times in my life that there was no doubt
of it. When examined the bright light, the crescent shaped
mass was very dark brown, almost black, motionless, and lacked
any in all definition. The arms, fingers, and eyes I
had disappeared being returned to the ger I tried adding
more arcanum immediately and sat with the experiment for thirty
eight hours, continuously trying to monitor the rate of blood
flow so as not to kill it by feeding it
too fast, if indeed it was if it was not
already dead.
Speaker 4: Aeration was also increased.
Speaker 2: As a last effort to revive what I had created,
but it all failed. When I removed the vessel from
the sand bath and opened it, the stench of death
was so powerful that I jumped back. It was the
most powerful desciment I ever experienced. I cannot bring myself
to clean the vessel by discarring the thing as though
it was a piece of garbage. As strange as it
is to write this, I felt and still do a
great emotional attachment to the little thing, and cried when
I realized it died. I feel I loved it in
some way. I buried the vessel with the creature in
the woods and retreated to my laboratory. Until today, I
feel so bad that the poor thing had to die,
and die the way it did, it never had a
chance at life.
Speaker 4: In the world. That I am beyond grief in knowing this.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever forgive myself for not being
able to give it a life it deserved. When I
called Freighter a few hours ago and told them what happened,
he too felt very sad and expressed such to me
and his words. Many would fall us for what we
have done, But all this is God's playing for mankind
and the whole This work has its place too. We
could have learned so much and become so so much
closer to the Creator if we could have succeeded in
this grand experiment. I felt the same too. Both of
us were choked up. We had tanda telephone call abruptly.
I'll have to contact Regard you as soon as I
am able and explain what happened to my creation. I
have no idea how you will take it, and frankly,
I don't give a damn.
Speaker 3: You can see that he's like going through some things
because he just lost his little guy, right, he just
like lost his son to this. Now, I don't want
to just rub more alchemical salt into his gurry heir
into his wound. But I mean, I'm kind of a
fan of macro photography, and I know that there's a
guy named Frank Percy Smith that not only was he
able to take close up pictures of very small items,
he even made movies. He made a movies in the
early nineteen hundred it's like nineteen ten of flies in motion,
of spiders in motion, like macro photography. So the camera
that this guy's talking about using was I think from
like nineteen seventy six, nineteen seventy eight, and the homunculous
experiment he claims to around nineteen eighty two, right around
the same year as that Essentia article with the water
work had come out. So there's really no excuse why
the camera that he was using wasn't able to create macrophotography,
especially if a camera made eighty years prior to this
experiment ever taking place had the capability to take an
in focused photograph of something at the micro level.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, but he wasn't pure heart,
so that's why he wasn't able to make a work.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: So again, I'm not saying it wasn't possible. I do
think that, Hey, it's a lot of source, trust me, Bro,
So I don't know where I stand with this, but
could it have been possible?
Speaker 4: I mean I think so, Dude.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to throw out the homunculus with the
girl water if you know what I'm saying, and say
that he didn't achieve this, And just because he couldn't
get a picture doesn't mean it happen. I mean, I've
seen a UFO before and didn't take a picture, but
I know when I saw that day Thomas okay, and
it was a UFO all right, So if he didn't
get I'm gonna I'm gonna take his word for it.
Speaker 3: Like we kind of have no other choice. That's the only.
Speaker 2: Thing you can and go on, right, And that's pretty
much the end of the body he talks. He says
that Regardi took it, so, he says he the following week,
I discuss the matter with a GUARDI till this day,
I am not certain who took my failure heart or
regarder afraid to albertas he told me he had hopes
because of this work, and then he actually believe the
experiment could be pulled off successfully. So what what do
you what do you think?
Speaker 3: Bro? Like?
Speaker 2: What what what did you think after what? What were
your thoughts reading this? What were your thoughts after this?
Like do you think the listeners will be able to
bring this thing into reality?
Speaker 4: Or like it's a pure.
Speaker 3: Heart and I assume that most of our readers are
pure of heart, the ones that actually pay attention and
care about the truth with your capital teas well. As
I was reading this to, especially towards the end, when
you know, when you realize it's all going to go south,
I almost imagine that this would make a really good
lifetime movie, like like the Homunculus that loses it all
towards the end, and I heard like the piano music
in the back of my head as I was reading
that very last day, and I can kind of see
him trying to like shake its little hand and maybe
like doing little chest compressions with a singership or something
like it's it really is. It turns into an absolute drama, right,
It's no longer comedy at that point. Just wake up
the guy that gets famous for doing little video shorts
where someone dies and he cries and like snock comes
out of his nose and stuff as he's like crying,
Like we should have that guy reenact discovering his homunculous.
I don't know that is. You'll you'll know, you'll absolutely know.
Well if you're if you were your heart, you would
know who that is.
Speaker 2: It just makes me think of you seen that show Intervention,
the one memes the black guy like cries like mad.
Speaker 3: Weird, Like that's how do you not know who this
guy is? It literally it's just brit if you just
search British guy crying.
Speaker 4: I've never seen that guy's videos. Dude, you know.
Speaker 3: This is all he does, is he just he screams
and he cries. But I this was literally what I
was imagining when I was reading these last pages of
the Homunculus. This guy walks in, were you crying? He
finds his little buddy. I might shed a tear as
I read that. How could you not? You'd have to
be an absolute monster. Yeah, to not cry over the
loss of Thismunculus. I mean it was literally a human
child as he described it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I think that it kind of
It kind of pulled up my heart strings too. When
I first read this book, you know, I was like, hey,
you know, so much time energy, literally blood, sweat and seamen,
you know, poured into this and for it to just
be over in a seconds as it was.
Speaker 4: Uh, but.
Speaker 2: What are your what are your final thoughts? Do you
believe Strap more strongly in the homunculus after reading this book?
Speaker 4: What would you rate this book?
Speaker 2: You know, on a skill to one homunculous Like, where
do you stand?
Speaker 4: You know after all this?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll give you it like a mid score five
five out of ten homunculi, just because it makes very
specific promises, but then it kind of covers the stuff up.
For example, Uh, he doesn't even provide in this book
a picture of the water work crustacean. We had a
fish that no pun intended. We had to fish the
picture of that thing out, and it was not easy
to find the cover to that magazine or the drawing.
And this is if this is the example of the
thing that you finally did after decades of research through
you're like, oh my god, I'm finally onto something I
can generate life. Why wouldn't you and that pic? I
would like people that I just meet on the street,
it would be like, hey, nice to meet you. Here's
a picture of artificial life that I made. Like I
would be giving it to everybody and if I wrote
a book about it, I think I would put it
like there on the cover, at least like a black
and white print of it somewhere in the book. And
I don't know. Maybe I rely too much on the
visual right, but I mean, even Israel Regardi, he didn't
believe that a homunculus was possible until someone showed him
a really convincing photograph and that changed his whole mind.
So to not take that lesson that he got directly
from his mentor and incorporate it into what might be
is magnum opis, or at least describing the work towards
his magnum opus, it just fell a little bit flat
for me. It felt like, what are you hiding? Or
why don't you want to show? Hey, how about this?
Why don't you just give us the blurry photos that
you did take? Right, even if it was too blurry,
we might be able to use AI at this point
to sort of put it back in the focus, but
alas all of that information is gone forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this book is what I would
rate it a five two five and a half. I
actually hype this book up more than you know. After
reading it again, kind.
Speaker 4: Of falls flat.
Speaker 2: I like the guy's writing. I don't think it's it's bad,
but you'll pick up.
Speaker 3: On the tone particularly great writing.
Speaker 2: You'll pick up on the tone of like this guy
kind of seems pretty cocky about his work and the
whole fact that he was talking about like, oh, people
in my classes that weren't even able to make the
herbal stone are.
Speaker 4: Writing about alchemy nowadays. How dare they?
Speaker 2: Like I know the truth and like I was the
real star of the show and the pupil of the class,
like I was, you know, I was that guy.
Speaker 3: Well he was a bad boy too, because him and
his friend would get up early and do the lesser
banishing ritual and then they would go to class and
Freighter would be like, who was doing the lesser banning ritual?
You know? I think that hogwarts And they were like,
how did he know?
Speaker 2: I think that was regarding they're talking about the Lester
banishing ritual by proxy?
Speaker 3: Right by proxy, because the whole process, the whole I
guess takeaway that I got from this book is that
there would be no Levsky without having a Regardi, and
there'd be no Regardy without having a Freighter. Albertus, right,
so that they're almost passing on this lineage even to
the point of the end of the book. Is that
themunculus that he was making almost felt like a child
or grandchild of Regardi and of Freighter albertas right, Like
they all felt they had the same investments. So I
don't know if that was an informational flow or maybe
like somehow the their semen were all linked in some
way so that it truly was sort of like a
joint a monculus. He doesn't really get into the details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there were the alchemical uncles of this thing,
and even Regardi, who had lung issues throughout his whole life,
and when he tried to again he was such a
bad alchemist that he breathed in this the I forgot
what soul fight it was, or some some gas from
trying to create the Philosopher's Stone, one of the tinctures
antimony or something. That's how dumb he was, that, you know,
doing alchemy, that he actually burned his lungs from the
inside out and he had respiratory issues his whole life
because of it. And then he figured, because that happened
to him, there was only one answer for the philosopher's stone,
and that it was a spiritual thing that you could acquire,
not a physical rate.
Speaker 3: If I can't do it, then maybe it's not possible
at all. What means he sounded like he was Jesse
Pinkman and not Walter White.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent Like that's the way I see it too.
So I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think that it might be bullshit,
but I can one hundred percent rule it out.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: Like something in me still says like maybe there's something
more to this homunculus than meets the eye, and maybe
seeing his believing but yeah, you also have to be
pure at heart. So but but the listeners will try this,
and they're going to report back, and they're gonna tell
us that it's really odd, dude, And if you make
a homunculous after listening to this, I will make it
the official mascot of the podcast.
Speaker 4: Okay, And yeah, so do you want to add anything
else tell us before you get out of here.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I guess I understand that he's upset at
the end. But and maybe I'm still ignorant of all
the rules of a homunculus, but I believe that the
whole point of creating a homunculus is to kill the homunculus,
Like you're not allowed, you're not supposed to let it.
Speaker 4: You don't always have to be wrong.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this was in UH sometime around
nineteen eighty two, right.
Speaker 3: So I have the rules changed that now you're allowed
to let a homunculus live into old age, like would
a homunculous die of old age? And what is an
old age for a homunculus? Because parent Celsus made it
seem like if you let that thing live for more
than like twelve months, then you're going to create a monster.
Speaker 2: But there there aren't any rules that you have that
you have to get rid of it. You can keep
it around and you can make it into your servant.
And if you do let it grow into old age,
it'll become either you know, a giant or dwarf or
a mystical being, a magical being. And I don't think
homunculus can die bro because they're magic, you know. But
if you want to extract those godlike powers from the homunculus,
then that's when you have to get into you know,
That's when you have to get rid of it and
then use its various body parts.
Speaker 4: So really it's up to you being.
Speaker 3: A clump of gray matter cells into an actual homunculus.
This almost feels like the abortion debate all over again. Right,
If it can't be killed, then it technically it's not
a homunculus if you can drown it with your blood.
Speaker 2: All homunculous lives matter. That's the moral of the story here, dude,
And and they all deserve a chance to live. But
if you choose to take you know, the dark path
and get rid of it, you're still going to acquire
magical powers because you're going to be able to use
its bodies. So the homunculus is you know, it's it's recyclable.
It's a reusable energy, I guess. And yeah, but there
isn't any rules saying that you can't unlive it.
Speaker 4: Bro, you know you're you're wrong there.
Speaker 2: You don't have to, Okay, So if you do create
this homunculus, you don't have to get rid of it.
You can turn it into child protective Services probably and
let it have the life it deserves, you know what
I mean, and give it a good shot in this world,
and who knows, it might grow up to be the
president of the United States one day, you don't know
where if you get rid of it so soon, you
don't know if that homeleculus could have solved the world hunger,
or you could.
Speaker 3: Have been a surgeon, could have been a doctor, could
have been president.
Speaker 4: You're it could have been.
Speaker 2: A crazy the president or crazy scientist or doctor. Her saying, yeah, so,
but again, just play it by ear when you do this,
and see where it goes, and follow your heart. Ultimately,
it's all about following your heart and really sticking to
your guns and giving everything you have one hundred and
ten percent, even your semen in your blood.
Speaker 3: So you got to give it to that girl.
Speaker 2: Very very inspirational this book, because this guy went he
was walking the walk and talking.
Speaker 4: The talk.
Speaker 3: Really to me was it was the opposite of inspirational
because at the end, it's like, and despite all of
the success, all of these things that I've been able
to do that no other alchemist before me has been
able to do as well, I still think that I
would have not done it all if I could try again,
and I just would have gotten a job doing you know,
high profile marketing work.
Speaker 4: And focusing on making money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, by hey, not having a kid with your your
wife for four decades.
Speaker 2: It's it takes the the alchemist road is a lonely
one and only the select fue will succeed. And if
that's what it takes to succeed, you gotta do what
you gotta do, right and I respect that. So for
those on this endeavor, if you do succeed in this work,
hit us up, let us know how it goes. Take
plenty of pictures, maybe even live stream. It will do
a live stream and see what happens.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: You're just gonna get pictures of people and doing unspeakable
things with mud with hot dog water.
Speaker 4: So what else you got, bro?
Speaker 3: Well, A cold book Club is back. I can't believe
the last one we did was Box Saga. But hopefully
we'll be posting maybe like a list of suggested books
that we'll be plucking from along with some of the
ones that we've already covered. But just be prepared. Hold
on to your to your seats, hold on hold onto
your semen and your pelicans, and uh, we're gonna have
way more of these scheduled for you guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The next book will probably be the Adam Weiss hop
book on.
Speaker 3: His historical Jesus, where he claims that Germany's greatest theological
entry into the world was their research into the historical
concept of Jesus as a man. So that one's kind
of interesting.
Speaker 4: So hopefully it's got some juice in it.
Speaker 2: But I make sure to follow me on social media
at the hon on On podcast www dot tj ojp dot com,
hold this Moundy, Patreon, all that stuff and I'll play
your stuff.
Speaker 3: Thomas Paranoid American dot com, coltbook Club dot com all
the things, And if you're listening to the audio version
of this, make sure you go in follow the Paranoid
American podcast too. Me and Juan intentionally don't recycle each
other's guests like a million other people in this space,
so you'll get a nice, healthy variety of stuff between
the two of us.
Speaker 4: Yes, so it's always everyone for the next one
Speaker 3: H