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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you're a gamestera too. It takes a little tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want mess with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangster too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, pach, baby, you're a Gamestato.

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<v Speaker 3>For the warning, This podcast is designed to take you

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<v Speaker 3>outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality

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<v Speaker 3>Listening Discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fellas?

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't my first time at the rodeos.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm, Welcome to the occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 5>This episode, we got a little bit of a cult

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<v Speaker 5>and we got a little bit of true crime coming

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<v Speaker 5>at you today. I got a bunch of rejects with me.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a couple of people joining us. Lisa the

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<v Speaker 5>occult reject man scientist is here with us today, and Lisa,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we got Julia Cosmic Peach here with us as well.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it was true crime and it was some

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<v Speaker 5>weird occult shit, so I figured, why not bring Cosmic

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<v Speaker 5>Peach alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this make me an official occurse?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>When I introduced it like that, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of put myself on the spot. If she caught me.

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<v Speaker 2>Julia the Cosmic Peacha cult.

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<v Speaker 5>Reject Juliacha Cult reject is joining us today.

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>You're welcome, and yeah, Julia, please plug all your stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and let everybody know where they can find all your

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<v Speaker 5>amazing work. Please.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>So wherever you listen to podcasts not YouTube, fuck them.

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<v Speaker 2>Every Saturday on the Cult of Conspiracy podcast, I do

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<v Speaker 2>a once a week's show over there and Patreon. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling frisky, you can get some extras in early

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<v Speaker 2>access to everything. Thanks for having me. I am officially

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<v Speaker 2>an occult reject.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Julia for joining us. I really

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate it. And JJ Vance, last but not least, my

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<v Speaker 5>favorite garbage can dude, what is up?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Let everybody know where they can find all your amazing

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<v Speaker 5>research as.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Nick, I appreciate the invite.

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<v Speaker 6>JJ Vance, host of Operation GCD, not the vice president, Lisa, Julia, great,

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<v Speaker 6>great c al game.

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<v Speaker 7>Looking for the conversation right right, great to meet you.

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<v Speaker 6>The uh you know this topic of conversations right in

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<v Speaker 6>my wheelhouse, you know, sadly enough, ritual human sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 7>Now you're now you're talking my language, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>So I cover I cover those topics on Operation g

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<v Speaker 6>C d quite frequently, amongst many other things. And uh

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<v Speaker 6>do a live show on Wednesday nights on YouTube Rumble

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<v Speaker 6>and Twister and Friday nights Fridays with the Occult Rejects

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<v Speaker 6>Nick on the same same platforms. Yes, also on r

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<v Speaker 6>S S, Fees and whatnot as well. But yeah, looking

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<v Speaker 6>for to the conversation. Yeah, definitely, uh, definitely not on

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't familiar with this topic, but I'm uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it will be.

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<v Speaker 7>Nice interesting, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So JJ, when you go like on speed dating or

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<v Speaker 5>on dating apps, you you put down that line about

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<v Speaker 5>if you're talking about whatever that was that you're talking.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, right right, ritinal human sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're into that, I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Dating site. They would tell me that isn't a great idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Conspiracy It probably would work.

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<v Speaker 2>All the conspiracies. You're into flat earth, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>connect with other conspiracy theorists and then you make conspiracy babies,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we.

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<v Speaker 4>Start an army conspiracy babies and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Take over the world.

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<v Speaker 7>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, this is your.

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<v Speaker 5>Show, not mine.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting there. Were getting there three and a half minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're finally going to get to the guests. So hoorah.

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<v Speaker 5>Code Codex of curiosities, my man, Please let everybody know

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<v Speaker 5>what your deal is, what your show is about, what's

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<v Speaker 5>up and whatever you want to plug? Please?

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<v Speaker 7>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Cool? Yeah, my show is conspiracies, dating and conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, they took me a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm not gonna steal that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So my show does we do conspiracies. I do

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<v Speaker 3>Lost History, I do you know, paranormal, supernatural, UFO, abduction,

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<v Speaker 3>all the like, everything that kind of falls in there

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<v Speaker 3>is what I do. And then I do the odd.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done two true crime episodes because they're just that

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<v Speaker 3>out there, that crazy, and and the one we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about tonight is one of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because it was just an attention grapper, and considering that

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<v Speaker 3>I live here in Mexico, it was something else that

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a dear to me. Not just being

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<v Speaker 3>these you know, sacrificial human sacrificial kind of things. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just let's let's get into it. Let's find out the

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<v Speaker 3>true nitty gritty about Mexico here, and my show can

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<v Speaker 3>be found everywhere, you know. I bow down to YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>there yeah, but so I'm in YouTube, rumble, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>audio wherever you can find it. It's it's the typical

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<v Speaker 3>and again Codega's Codex of Curiosities.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll definitely say you have. You know, when I first

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<v Speaker 5>came across I think I told you in DM, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I thought you were only true crime. I

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<v Speaker 5>must have looked at the only two shows you've done

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<v Speaker 5>exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Jack the Ripper and this this called the

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<v Speaker 3>Magdalena sold this the Vampiric Blood Priestess.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And then and then when I went back and looked

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<v Speaker 5>at your stuff, I was just you know, more of

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<v Speaker 5>your stuff. I was just like, oh, this guy covers

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<v Speaker 5>like everything. Yeah, I thought was true crime dab. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he does have a slew of different types of topics

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<v Speaker 5>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It was between those two. When I saw that, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, ah, but same last name as Lisa. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>ask him for that first, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's uh yeah, So, so do we want to get

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<v Speaker 3>into it or yeah, let's do it. Just jump right

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<v Speaker 3>into it. Okay, So the topic, what we're we talking

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<v Speaker 3>about is a place in Mexico and San Luis Potosi

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<v Speaker 3>called Yorba Buena and this is small. Like when I

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<v Speaker 3>say small, that doesn't even doesn't even cut it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's tiny, tiny little village. That was this this

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<v Speaker 3>village and this was this took place in the early sixties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and like but but before we jumped too deep into it,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to do a little bit of background on

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<v Speaker 3>the two main proponents of this who kind of started

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<v Speaker 3>this all, and that was so we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Santos and uh Cayetano Ernandez. Now, these were two

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<v Speaker 3>brothers who were just lifelong scam artists. That's that's all

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<v Speaker 3>they did. You know. They would go from one place

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<v Speaker 3>to another place. And they they were driving along and

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<v Speaker 3>they had just left or or had been run out

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<v Speaker 3>of town, which is usually the typical, uh what happened

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<v Speaker 3>with them? So so they're just leaving for one scam

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<v Speaker 3>and they stumbled upon your buena. They could see this

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<v Speaker 3>town off in the distance, and they noticed that there

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<v Speaker 3>was no power lines running there and there was no

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't see a church or they didn't see what else, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or a school as well, and so if you think

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<v Speaker 3>about it, there was with that meant. What that meant

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<v Speaker 3>was there's no contact from the outside world, no education

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<v Speaker 3>and no organized religion to keep these people kind of

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<v Speaker 3>on the righteous path, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Imagine looking for stuff like that, things to check off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I could go there, the manipulag. I haven't thought of that,

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<v Speaker 5>but it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And yurbuena means good herb, okay, So if you if

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<v Speaker 3>you get the feeling where that's coming from, that was

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<v Speaker 3>most likely it was. It got its name from the

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<v Speaker 3>cartels who used to work in that area and we

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<v Speaker 3>use the fields to grow their crops. But they were

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<v Speaker 3>eventually run out by the federal allies. So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of all right, got its name, you know. Or

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<v Speaker 3>buena also means spearmint as well, but I believe we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go with the fact that it's a good

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<v Speaker 3>herb is really where they got that name from. Now

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back to the story here. So now, these

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<v Speaker 3>these two brothers, they they decided they came up with

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<v Speaker 3>this hair brain scheme to pose as prophets of ancient

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<v Speaker 3>Inca gods. Now, if anybody knows anything about geography and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ancient civilizations, you would know that the Incas

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<v Speaker 3>aren't native to Peru, I mean, sorry, not native to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>They're native to Peru, so like this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous to begin with already. But they went in, and

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<v Speaker 3>they went into the villagers, and they said that they

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<v Speaker 3>were priests or prophets of these ancient Inca gods, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were there to pave the way for the return

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<v Speaker 3>of these gods. And with that they promised the villagers

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<v Speaker 3>that there is hidden treasures and they would give these

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<v Speaker 3>hidden treasures to these villagers in exchange for worship and tributes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what that what that entailed was like free food,

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<v Speaker 3>free booze, lots of sex, pretty much anything else they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted from the villagers. All right, So that's yeah, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's crazy in the sixties that can still happen.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, I can understand if you end up

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<v Speaker 5>in like, you know, the rainforest of someplace in Africa,

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<v Speaker 5>but I mean in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, remember Nick, the sixties were like Laurel Canyon program

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<v Speaker 2>to kill serial killers and you know all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't surprise me. There was so many cults that

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<v Speaker 2>broke out in the sixties. It makes your headspind It's craziness.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think like in Sunuis Potosi. Wasn't it predominantly

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous still, like it's so the tourist attraction that it

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<v Speaker 1>is now today.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so, I completely believe so. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, everybody knows one of the things of cults

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<v Speaker 3>is to isolate your the people, you know, keep them isolated.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's already happened in this town has already completely isolated.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were they were long gone and forgotten already.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they were taking advantage of by the cartel.

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<v Speaker 3>But the cartel's now gone. So all they were doing

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<v Speaker 3>for for income was like selling beans and corn.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So like again, calling this a village really wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 3>it justice. It was much smaller, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a community of sorts because like I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I mentioned that there is about like maybe fifty

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I have a question these brothers, were they

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<v Speaker 2>like learn it at all or do they say, like

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<v Speaker 2>which specific gods they were representing? Well they just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just like gods.

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<v Speaker 3>like sure, sure that that sounds right? Good, Like and

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<v Speaker 3>these men weren't learning like you know, they I don't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to pull off some good scams, right and

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<v Speaker 7>To do that.

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<v Speaker 5>At least more than the people you're taking advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Yeah, they got their grade ten and everybody else

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<v Speaker 7>So there we go.

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<v Speaker 6>Was was there a lot of other known cold activity

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<v Speaker 7>Do they get did they get bit with a New

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I know of, I don't. I don't know that,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, like the New Age like peace love and

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<v Speaker 6>I mean scientology was in that and around I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that area of Mexico, but they've been

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<v Speaker 6>operating in Mexico since the nineteen sixtyes, late nineteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's I think they were in school which was

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<v Speaker 6>Ye further definitely down there, but they have these child

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<v Speaker 3>The Yucatan where they located school well, t u l Okay, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Still the same name, but San Luis Potosi is correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. It's north of Monterey. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico city.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Yes, but it is near Monterey, very near Monterey, right, which.

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<v Speaker 6>Is not that far from like the Matamoros cold that

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<v Speaker 6>would it would erupt in the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>It's further south, right, isn't it that it's.

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<v Speaker 3>On the coast, Yes, close to being on the coast.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, same state though, right, same.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think No, I think I think there are

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<v Speaker 3>more northern states.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, is that the name of its.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not good with American names first and foremost, so

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<v Speaker 6>Mexican names not my not my thing.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's how you pronounced it. I often wonder how

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<v Speaker 6>Went in around that area, and looking into this cold

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<v Speaker 6>I'd never heard of a as I go, wow, there's

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, previously, did the brothers have any

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<v Speaker 2>like military, like ex military, any governmental nothing where they're fit,

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<v Speaker 2>where their grandparents Satanists, where they like part of generational

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<v Speaker 2>Satanism anything like that. No, no, not they they just

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of Yes, exactly exactly. And yeah, so Tampico is

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<v Speaker 3>on the East Coast. Is is that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But this area, I believe San Luis Potosi is is

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<v Speaker 3>not is a bit north. It's it's north of Mexico City,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's still south of it's kind of in between.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we want to say in between

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<v Speaker 3>the border of like U of the US and Mexico City.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I don't want to say halfway. No, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>much closer to Mexico City. But yeah, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to Mexican geography anyway. Between what you're saying Monaree, Mexico City.

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<v Speaker 6>I can picture those places well anything else between, like

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<v Speaker 3>No problem, no problem. Yeah, So yeah, it's it's north

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<v Speaker 3>of Mexico City and south of Monterey is where we're

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<v Speaker 6>But this is kind of an abnormal theology, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>this not just the Incos is your point now coming

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<v Speaker 6>to Mexico claim to be representing Incan gods, But from

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<v Speaker 6>from what it seems like with this cold, it's not.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not rooted in local folklore.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point. No, at this point, No, it changes though,

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<v Speaker 3>it changes gears and and that's when things get get

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<v Speaker 3>a little crazy. Okay, yeah, so yeah, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>like these guys were just career criminals going around finding targets,

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<v Speaker 3>finding hits, but this was the craziest one of them all,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like before it's I believe before a most

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<v Speaker 3>smaller you know, like hitting families, hitting up families and

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<v Speaker 3>smaller areas or smaller like targets. But this was this

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<v Speaker 3>was their big hits on this one. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>the issues though with this is if we're going back

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<v Speaker 3>to the story, is that they they they continued this

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<v Speaker 3>charade for a couple of weeks, people were starting to

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<v Speaker 3>like it. They didn't really bring anything to the table though.

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<v Speaker 3>They just kept on saying that this is what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>But they actually picked a couple of villagers to serve

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<v Speaker 3>them and and to help keep the villagers in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>one of those being Jesus for Bario. Okay, now, Jazus

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<v Speaker 3>kind of figured out that they this was all bullshit,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, listen, I want in. It's pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>what he wanted to, Like, he wanted to take advantage

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<v Speaker 3>of his own village as well, like, hey, I want

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<v Speaker 3>part of this, because at this time it was just

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<v Speaker 3>enjoying a lot of sex, drinks and food and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's where it went. But like as I said, this,

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<v Speaker 3>the promises of treasures and gold that they weren't materializing.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't bringing anything. So the villagers were becoming more

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<v Speaker 3>skeptical by the day and that this next choice is

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<v Speaker 3>where they changed everything. So they the brothers realized that

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<v Speaker 3>they needed to step this up. Okay, So they ended

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<v Speaker 3>up driving to Monterey and they left Jesus in charge

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of like keep people still in line, to

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<v Speaker 3>let them know that, hey, we're coming back. And the

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<v Speaker 3>reason they did this is because they were they promised

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<v Speaker 3>the villagers that they were going to bring back a

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<v Speaker 3>goddess or a priestess, that they were going to create this.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just going to bring someone else back who

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<v Speaker 3>was who was to add to this charade?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So they drove to Monterey and that is where they

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<v Speaker 3>recruited Magdalena saw this and her brother and I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to butcher this name because it is a difficult name,

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<v Speaker 3>Elizar Als. Okay, So that is the brother of Magdalena Solis.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's unknown if if Magdalena Solis and aliasar and

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<v Speaker 3>the two brothers actually knew each other prior to this.

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<v Speaker 3>They might have there might have been a relationship prior

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<v Speaker 3>to that beout. But Magdalena was she was working as

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<v Speaker 3>a prostitute in Monterey and she's been doing this since

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<v Speaker 3>the age of twelve. And her pimp was her brother. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's nice, so fucked right, yes, yeah, I complete, I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that was going to come up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was pimp andes sis he's so messed yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>completely messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, not only did she not only was she a prostitute,

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<v Speaker 3>though she was also had a side hustle as a

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<v Speaker 3>fortune teller and medium. She would claim to be like

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<v Speaker 3>channeling spirits of oh that's exactly, that's exactly you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But but she is in in this kind of concept.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was said she would channel like these brujas

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<v Speaker 3>okay and for those who know those are witches. So

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<v Speaker 3>that was I believe that played a big part in

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<v Speaker 3>in this next the next level, the next step. So

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<v Speaker 3>so Magdalena and her brother and Hernandez brothers decided that

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<v Speaker 3>Kate like they propositioned her and said, we want you

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<v Speaker 3>to come back and we want you to portray you

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<v Speaker 3>know this priestess or this or a god. Well, they

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<v Speaker 3>actually said priestess to begin.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>During this time, when they're having this conversation and agreeing

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<v Speaker 3>with this, one of them finally realized that the Incoans

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<v Speaker 3>weren't from Mexico. So that's when they switched up. They

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<v Speaker 3>decided to go with Aztec gods sot At this time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some had said that mag was going to

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<v Speaker 3>pose as a famous resurrected Mexican faith healer, but that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of they decided not to. So she was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a priestess of the Aztec goddess qualitic you okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and qualitic youu was the fertility goddess. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>doing that right too. I had some issues with some

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<v Speaker 3>of these names. But qual lick you, qualth lick you, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was the fertility goddess. Which make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>keep that in your mind now. So the brothers returned

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<v Speaker 3>back to the village and they told that they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>bring in Magdalena yet. They told everyone that this goddess

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<v Speaker 3>that they went to get or this priestess would arrive

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<v Speaker 3>at night and they but they had to perform this

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<v Speaker 3>ritual to summon her, so that evening they got the

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<v Speaker 3>villagers to participate in the brother's ritual where they use

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<v Speaker 3>some fireworks and pyrotechnics to and which amazes people because

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<v Speaker 3>they've never seen this kind of stuff, right, this is

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<v Speaker 3>all new to them, so they're able to produce stick

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<v Speaker 3>cloud of smoke and once the once the smoke cleared,

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<v Speaker 3>there stood Magdalena Solis and the village were just the

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<v Speaker 3>villagers were just amazed at this because this was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>smoking mirrors, kind of bullshit kind of stuff, but for

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<v Speaker 3>them this was amazingals.

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<v Speaker 7>Then they were just kind of making it up as

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<v Speaker 7>they went along, making everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly they like when they got back, did they like

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<v Speaker 2>switch it up, like, oh, by the way, just kidding,

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<v Speaker 2>it's as Tech's not like you'd think right there, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hold the fuck up, Like, first off, who

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<v Speaker 2>are you? Second off, it went from INCA to now

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<v Speaker 2>it's as tech, to now it's this, and now it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wondering if the brothers knew her because they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting some puss on the other side of town

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they got a reading or something, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they got tight with her brother and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's run game on these people just seems like it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, we're going to go to this town and

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<v Speaker 2>we just so happened to know a fortune telling prostitute

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<v Speaker 2>with pool brother that could come back and run this

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<v Speaker 2>game with with us. Like that's so specific, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like they.

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<v Speaker 5>Had Like that is a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, it's a great point. And none of that

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<v Speaker 3>can be proven or disproven. Another can be claimed or

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<v Speaker 3>disclaimed that is not in there, But there is assumptions.

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<v Speaker 3>The only assumptions was they might have known each other

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<v Speaker 3>prior to this. But I think you're bringing up a

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<v Speaker 3>great point, you know, it's kind of it's interesting. It

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<v Speaker 3>is very.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting to Julia's point. When I was listening to it

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning and now listening to you, Julia, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they were about to get caught RD and dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they their whole game in that Oh oops,

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<v Speaker 1>we invoke the ink in people and they know that

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<v Speaker 1>it and so let's get someone who could pose as

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<v Speaker 1>an Aztec priestess and change it up, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? And that probably the charade was falling apart,

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<v Speaker 1>and so therefore they had to go get reconnaissance and

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<v Speaker 1>then hence you know, they already knew who that person was,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew that they could scam them, they knew that

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<v Speaker 1>they could be in on the take.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's like this chick already likes to make

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<v Speaker 2>money dirty. Yeah, you're not going to take a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of convincing to be like, hey, come back with us,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, It's like, hey, you don't even have to

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even have to get as dirty. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. We'll pay you for doing less if

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00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:42.559
<v Speaker 2>you come with us. So I think she found an

426
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>easy way out.

427
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:44.519
<v Speaker 3>I would do it too.

428
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I'd be invoking all kinds of shit.

429
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Like get me out of here.

430
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:52.799
<v Speaker 2>My brother is literally pimping me. But nobody knows that yet,

431
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.519
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows anything about her. So there's they're still able

432
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>to pull off this this charade.

433
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right, right, acquisition in the matter, right, Like, aren't

434
00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:07.119
<v Speaker 6>the locals they're Catholics, they're letting all this problem.

435
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:10.680
<v Speaker 3>No, No, there's no church, no nothing there like that.

436
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>They were completely isolated. So there's no church in Electricity,

437
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 3>no school as well. So you've got the perfect mark there.

438
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 3>They're just they're just right for picking.

439
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I just assumed the Catholics did a number

440
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.599
<v Speaker 6>of Mexico hundreds of years ago. They just got roll

441
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 6>across the whole landscape.

442
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they forgot this little po dunk town. They just

443
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:31.920
<v Speaker 2>skipped right over it.

444
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:33.279
<v Speaker 7>Now.

445
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 3>So and also to boot to this, So the villagers

446
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.599
<v Speaker 3>also believed that. And I don't know who stated this,

447
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.680
<v Speaker 3>but if we're talking about like Catholics, so the villagers

448
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 3>also believe that las Are was the reincarnation of Saint Francis.

449
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.160
<v Speaker 3>So they just ran with that. So there, so I

450
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.640
<v Speaker 3>know we're saying there's no church and there's no Catholic religion,

451
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.359
<v Speaker 3>but they had an idea of who Saint Francis was.

452
00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 3>So that's interesting.

453
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:00.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, when it was one time, if you didn't know

454
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 6>who Saint Francis was, they they hung you upside down

455
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 6>by the steak or something lit you on fire, you

456
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean.

457
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

458
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 1>All of all of the missionary priests that came from

459
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Spain in the fifteen hundreds were all of the Saint

460
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Franciscan order. None of them came their order. It was

461
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>predominant because it was in southern Spain where ernand Cortees predominated.

462
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.279
<v Speaker 1>In that one specific area of Mexico, and so it

463
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was all majority of that Franciscan order. The other orders

464
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>went elsewhere North Mexico, South America and all that other stuff,

465
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but predominantly the area was a Franciscan order.

466
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Would you think that la is alaisar he knew that

467
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>shit before he got to the little town. Maybe he

468
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>had been exposed he was. He wanted to be in

469
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>on the the scam too, like, oh, my sister's not

470
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>going to get all the glory, Like I gotta be somebody.

471
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.319
<v Speaker 2>All right, you're Saint Francis, asshole, get up around.

472
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe had a slight resemblance to Saint Francis and baby,

473
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:02.599
<v Speaker 3>and it could have went that way.

474
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, we talked to animals. That's his thing.

475
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.839
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, Saint Francis is that he could speak

476
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>to him.

477
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, no, no, well, which is crazy that the he

478
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 3>talked to animals, because what they end up doing right

479
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 3>away is so un Saint Francis like yeah, because like

480
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the villagers then just accepted them, like yes, this is

481
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 3>what we've been waiting for. And that's when it all

482
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>really started. So Magdalena started taking control. At this point,

483
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.839
<v Speaker 3>she started introducing like these crazy things such as animal

484
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 3>sacrifices and then big sexual acts like orgies and whatnot.

485
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 3>And with the sacrifices, with the animal sacrifices, they started

486
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 3>drinking the blood of these animals and mixing it with

487
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 3>payote and marijuana as well. So this is where things

488
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 3>started getting crazy, you know, just drug up everybody. Because

489
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.119
<v Speaker 3>of course, since the the cartel was in that area,

490
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 3>they're not anymore there, there's still marijuana plants growing around,

491
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 3>so that was a common thing in Biota, of course,

492
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 3>is quite common in that area as well. Now now,

493
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 3>now the big problem that is is this is that

494
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 3>over time, Magdalena started to really believe in her herself,

495
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 3>like in her own divinity, and and that's when she

496
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 3>started like assuming leadership of the cult. Okay, So she

497
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 3>started to believe in the the ruse itself right along

498
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 3>with the villagers almost, he could say. So that's where

499
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 3>things started escalating even more. And in this in this

500
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 3>town also, there was this one beautiful girl named Selina.

501
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Selena was also slightly in on it, okay, so she

502
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 3>was one of those appointed what is it, uh, like

503
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a priestess of the group. So she

504
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 3>was appointed of that one as well. So what happened

505
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 3>there was Magdalena ended up developing feelings like a bit

506
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of lust for Selena as well, so that will play

507
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 3>part closer to the end. Okay, oh shit, the kids, Yeah,

508
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>the the possible triangle. Yeah, yeah, now.

509
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I have I have just the quickest question ever, was

510
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>was she did she believe in it? Because like she

511
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was like doing this which witchy stuff before they even

512
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>got her inducted into this cult, Like she was summoning stuff,

513
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 2>and like maybe she really did think.

514
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Like that's that, That's what I think. I think it

515
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 3>ties in with it because she was already kind of

516
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 3>getting into this mindset of like I am a fortune

517
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>teller and I am channel these bruhas, and maybe there

518
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 3>was part of her that actually believed that.

519
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 7>Okay, right, yeah, but.

520
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Especially as like drinking the blood and doing the like,

521
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, even if it was me, if I was,

522
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I knew it was all kind of like a setup

523
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was I wouldn't be drinking it. No, thanks,

524
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like how far do you get into it?

525
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I will say this, like in the Hispanic culture,

526
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>at least in the Mexican culture, we do predominantly cook

527
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>our food and blood so like like and stuff like that.

528
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you ever had that in Mako

529
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 1>it's geeseol I have with Yeah, you cook it in

530
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>blood and stuff like that. It's it's it's one of

531
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>those things that the people they're called compass. They would

532
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>live off the land and you ate everything everything from

533
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>intestine or whatever. You never let anything go to waste.

534
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And so it's predominantly that that was accepted, everything from brain, tongue, cheek, everything,

535
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and so that's very common in Hispanic culture.

536
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>That's not I think there's throats and just like like

537
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 2>doing like I.

538
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Don't know, but well in this one, they would they

539
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:16.039
<v Speaker 3>actually had like a ceremonial chalice that they were they

540
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>were using to take them. Yes, yes, sorry, no, but

541
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 3>yeah it's uh, it's so it's getting there where she

542
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 3>she's taking more control of this. So and this is

543
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.759
<v Speaker 3>where again that that that that one was a step up.

544
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.599
<v Speaker 3>Now this is coming to another step up. Sorry you

545
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 3>had a question.

546
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 6>No, it was just gonna before moved past the animal sacrifice,

547
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 6>not that I want to dwell on it, but what

548
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 6>was just were there any.

549
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 7>Dogs involved here? Maybe German shepherds?

550
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 3>No, from what I heard it was chickens. It wasn't

551
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 3>anything too crazy, so it was chickens. Could have been

552
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 3>out other animals, of course, of course I've heard chickens.

553
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.079
<v Speaker 3>That is all that I've read, that I've done research on,

554
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 3>and that's all I've gotten out.

555
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean, shepherds do come up a lot, though.

556
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 6>I noticed there was a lot of German shepherds getting

557
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 6>off to Mexico around those times. Well you know again

558
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 6>like at least the point element south of there in

559
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:09.640
<v Speaker 6>the Yucatan.

560
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 5>But nonetheless, well, I just even like with uh that

561
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 5>that's associated with Go Go Beach. You know, Joe Biden's

562
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 5>dog that kept biting people the whole time. He was

563
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 5>a Germany shepherd.

564
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>You do hear about germanyerd They would have had to

565
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>been brought in because German shepherds are not intigenous to.

566
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, especially that specific area too. I would not

567
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 3>assume that they'd have any German shepherds. Maybe some local uh,

568
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe some local dogs that are just.

569
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think dogs dogs acrific in general is interesting

570
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.480
<v Speaker 6>because it does seem to circle around colts on numerous continents.

571
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>M m mm hmmm mm hmmm. I agree with you

572
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>on that one. They I think there was some dogs

573
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 2>in the a Dolfo Constanzo stuff. I'm pretty sure there

574
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 2>was some dogs.

575
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 7>With that madam, the madam Morose one. Yeah, definitely gilling

576
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 7>dogs up there.

577
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

578
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Anyways, ry, no, no worries, No worries. I like conversation.

579
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 7>That was. I enjoyed that.

580
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 3>So at this point again they started hitting a point

581
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>where some of the villagers, a couple of the villagers

582
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 3>were starting to like a little bit of dissent was happening,

583
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, except of the villagers were just like, I'm

584
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 3>not buying this. I'm not into this, you know, big sex,

585
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>orgies and this blood drinking and everything. So so they're

586
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>like they're questioning everything that was being done. And the

587
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 3>two brothers that started it all in the beginning, you know,

588
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the Hernandez brothers, they were talking about like yeah, time

589
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to go okay, So they were ready to cut it

590
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 3>and leave. But Magdalena took it upon herself to solve

591
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 3>the problem. And this is where she takes complete control.

592
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>So she had another one of her rituals with biote

593
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and and orgies and everything and animal sacrificing and blood drinking.

594
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 3>But the doing this ritual though. She said that the

595
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>gods had told her that there are doubters in the village,

596
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 3>and so she pointed out one of them and then

597
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>they all proceeded to murder him in front of everyone. Okay,

598
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 3>so in front of the villager. So it was then

599
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>they just they bludgeoned him. It was usually with rocks,

600
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 3>like bludging him with rocks now, and it said that

601
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 3>at this point that's when she used the cup to

602
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 3>that they were using to drink the chicken blood to.

603
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 3>She started drinking blood from this dead guy.

604
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fuck, she kicked it up way a notch.

605
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes she did. Yes.

606
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.599
<v Speaker 2>See, that's why I think she started believing in this shit,

607
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's like you just took it to a homicidal place.

608
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think, like this is me being

609
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>my spiritual self and not my conspiracy self. When you

610
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>do these things, I think you can invite like dark

611
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>spirits to come into you. And I think that she

612
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>probably was getting into some stuff she had no idea

613
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 2>how powerful it actually was. Maybe like this story is.

614
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, you know, she she got so into it.

615
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>She's believing in the liars and stuff. Maybe she got

616
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 2>so into it she actually started conjuring some shit. I mean,

617
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>how many dead chickens do you need to drink the

618
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>blood and like do all this before you actually start

619
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>opening the doors to some some like dark stuff.

620
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Well it's like blood sex, magic, right.

621
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, and the orgies and the weird. Like you

622
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>gotta think like this this started as a pretend thing

623
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>and now it's like a real thing, Like they've brought

624
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>it into the physical plane.

625
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Like exactly, and now like think of it, like what

626
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 3>a way to control a village? Now, you know, you

627
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 3>just murdered one of them for being a disbeliever, and

628
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>in front of everyone, I.

629
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 5>Was gonna ask do you think he was really a disbeliever?

630
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Do you think they were like, you know, we're just

631
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 5>going to kill one person to prove a point, to

632
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 5>scare everybody.

633
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 3>No, it was definitely disbelieve. There was two men that

634
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 3>were being these that were disbelieved. Now it's it's uncertain

635
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 3>that they killed one or two. I'm leaning more to

636
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 3>that it was only one. But you know, all you

637
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 3>have to do is killed one and the other one

638
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 3>is going to fall right in line. You're not going

639
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to get any dissent at that point. Yeah, Yeah, that

640
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 3>is great control, right, and so, and at this point

641
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 3>she had taken over the cult completely, and the brothers

642
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>happily actually just stepped aside because they were along for

643
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the ride. Now, they weren't making any of those difficult

644
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>decisions or doing any of that stuff. Now they're just

645
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, all right, just let it happen. And

646
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 3>but nonetheless there's still part of it all. And it

647
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 3>was specifically at this point that ever, that was stated

648
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 3>that she actually believed that she was the reincarnation of

649
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 3>the god Qualita qu.

650
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 5>One thing. I did just go ahead, go ahead, really.

651
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is this is a real goddess though, this

652
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 2>is a real.

653
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe, Yeah, she she's I think the goddess

654
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>which in meshika or sex lore, they believe snakes are

655
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>life because you know, when you open someone up, all

656
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 1>you see is snakes like intestines and blood vessels and whatever.

657
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 1>And they believe that there is in bilber cord that

658
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>connects all of the heavens. So I believe well was

659
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the goddess of the snakes. And if I'm not mistaken,

660
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I think she was like their Matusa or something like that,

661
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 1>because what have you. She likes of the thing that

662
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we did.

663
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, she's like the feminized version of like quetso Couadal, yes,

664
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>because the name is so similar, and that's like a

665
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 2>masculine deity. But so okay, all right, so yeah, think

666
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>about all this sacrifices and ship she's doing in the

667
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 2>name of a very real deity, like of.

668
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Course, and she was so Yeah, she was considered the

669
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 3>mother of the gods, the goddess of earth, nature, fertility, life,

670
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and death. So she was a the main goddess if

671
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 3>you want to go, if you want to go there,

672
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 3>So she was the goddess. So if you're gonna if

673
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 3>you're going to be a goddess and portray a goddess,

674
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 3>that's the one to portray.

675
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>M h.

676
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

677
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 6>I wonder who taught her how to mix the you know,

678
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 6>to mix the paodian with the blood, you know, to

679
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 6>give the appearance of some sort of mystical power. I'm

680
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 6>sure over her followers you know that maybe that's an

681
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 6>enterprising con man tactic.

682
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. It just seems like someone may have

683
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 7>taught her that.

684
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Have you guys read The Cosmic Serpent? Anybody know? But

685
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it's in my queue, Dude, I'm reading it right now.

686
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 2>And JJ just mentioned something that's totally in the Cosmic

687
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Serpent about how how did ancients understand how to create ayahuasca?

688
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Out of eighty thousand Amazonian plants, they chose the two

689
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 2>plants like the hallucinogenic and the one that shuts off

690
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the receptors in your stomach so you didn't pe you

691
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>get back up, like they chose out of eighty thousand

692
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 2>plants they chose. It's just like divinely inspired, they say. So.

693
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>So I spoke to in Peru when I went down there,

694
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and they said God is very kind to the to

695
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the innocent mind that seeks his knowledge. And he says

696
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that they that they walk with the spirits, at least

697
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the shamans do, and that the spirits reveal to them

698
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>what it is, but that they go into the forest

699
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and that they fast or whatever, and that the that

700
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the plants come alive and tell them how to be.

701
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 1>You again, I'm just you know, repeating what I heard and.

702
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So, but that's but that's such a good point because

703
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like how far into this did she really get?

704
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Because I think like there's a level of psychopathy. But

705
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>they at the same time, like she was actually doing

706
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like real stuff to bring about like real results when

707
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing the blood and doing all the in the like, dude,

708
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 2>for real, she could have opened if.

709
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>She was doing taro, then I would think that she

710
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>was very much into that whole side of the arts points.

711
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's already into the dabbling into what she's in

712
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 3>the occult, right, she.

713
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Would be very much into the whole what do you

714
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>call them whatever and all about that reading the iris,

715
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>reading the cards, reading your tea leaves a whole bit.

716
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

717
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 6>So is this like a normal Tarot system she was

718
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 6>subscribing to or is this like a Mexican only Tarot

719
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 6>system where we talking her that.

720
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

721
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I would assume it would be just the regular taro.

722
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there was any other ones around.

723
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 5>The one thing I do want to, I guess ask

724
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 5>or bring up again now this whole because I am

725
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 5>trying to like I'm just wondering, like, what's the even

726
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 5>the benefit of this? So now the whole reason that

727
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 5>this even started and now they still like kind of

728
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 5>just going along with like a free ride and tons

729
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 5>of sex like like because that seems to be the

730
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 5>only reason why they're still continuing. This is from the beginning,

731
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 5>the idea of like, oh, we could just get laid

732
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 5>and live here for free.

733
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get get laid, live here for free, have all

734
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 3>the food want just be yeah, god right.

735
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it's just like that's it.

736
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>That's how it all started.

737
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>It honestly, Nick, It's like they wanted their own like kingdom.

738
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to be like kings of their kingdom. And

739
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>like the way you control people is fear religion. You

740
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>know that that the fear of death will get That

741
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 2>would get me every time. It'd be like, oh dude,

742
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>they're literally killing people now. I you know, at what

743
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>point do you just kind of be like, this is

744
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 2>really real. We should really listen to these people.

745
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 6>And but it is.

746
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>It is surprising to me that it got so out

747
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 2>of hand that the guys who started the whole thing

748
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>were just like, we're going to take a back seat

749
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:57.559
<v Speaker 2>to this. Uh, we fucked up and have fun. We're

750
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>out of here.

751
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I think you something on your show, and I think

752
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>it fits perfectly to this question. Is that here's this

753
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>girl who was placed into prostitution and she had absolutely

754
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>no control in her life, and now here she stepped

755
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>into a stage where everyone listened to everything she said

756
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and she now could have control. And so that, I'm

757
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>assuming is the ultimate high anyone can can want or perceive.

758
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I actually agree.

759
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

760
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>So anybody who's in a position where you don't have

761
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 3>any control and then you're almost gifted these powers, people

762
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 3>get like drunk on that. They get drunk on power.

763
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And I'm if you're into conspiracies, and I'm sure you

764
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 3>know when the COVID was around that you've seen all

765
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 3>these people who never had power before who are now

766
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 3>gifted with all this power. You know, maybe your door

767
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>checkers at Walmart and shit like that, or your Starbucks

768
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>baristas and they're now drunk on power and telling you

769
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>how to you know, you can't come in here, you

770
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 3>can't do this, you know, And yeah, that's an easy

771
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 3>example of it.

772
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 5>You had dudes stocking shells in the supermarket wearing an

773
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 5>Essential Worker shirt that thought they were.

774
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>All the weird nerds that like nobody gave a shit

775
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>about it became like your masters. Yes, shit, like you

776
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking work at Ross, Dude, Like, don't tell me I

777
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>can't approach the cash register unless I'm like, are you

778
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It's Ross?

779
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Like you work at a store that's got arrows on

780
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 4>the floor and you're following it.

781
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 7>What is that?

782
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the first place I went into when they started

783
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that ship. I was like, this is fucking ross, Like

784
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys sell birdhouses and underwear? Why are you telling

785
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>me how to live my life? And it's just like

786
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 2>they gave power to like the useless nerds of society.

787
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it just it's crazy. But that is

788
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>a good example of what's going on. It's just like

789
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weird nerds who got a prostitute with

790
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>some mental instability in her pimp brother and they started

791
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>a cult and then they actually opened up the door

792
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>to some really real shit in my opinion.

793
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh completely, completely, Yeah, the example I gave you was

794
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 3>just a just a tip of the iceberg in comparison

795
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 3>to this, you know, and it was and yeah, yeah,

796
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. It is crazy. So I can continue if

797
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 3>you guys want, Yeah, yeah, all right, all right. So

798
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 3>now so now under her command, like this cult, now,

799
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>any of the members, which is the villagers, anybody who

800
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 3>expressed like they want to leave or you know, they

801
00:43:53.519 --> 00:44:00.159
<v Speaker 3>want out, we're publicly executed. Okay, So yes, yeah, uh,

802
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>and and remember there's not that many people living here, right,

803
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 3>so you know you're but I guess you know, you

804
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 3>kill a couple and you have that you have that uh,

805
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 3>that control and and that that's when also Magdalena started

806
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>to introduce like these blood rituals, which were inspired by

807
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 3>the Aztecs, you know, where they when there was any

808
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 3>dissenting members, they would they were tortured, mutilated and then

809
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 3>left to bleed to death. And when they did that,

810
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>they would collect their their blood and mix it with

811
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 3>marijuana or piote, and that that of course was then

812
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 3>consumed by Magdalena and other cult members. Now she actually

813
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 3>believed that this, and and the cult members actually believed

814
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 3>that this granted them supernatural powers, and she, Magdalena herself

815
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 3>believed that it sustained her. It even like and this

816
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>this process even escalated more when they started to rip

817
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>the hearts out of their victims and eat them as well.

818
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>So straight up, yeah, that is like straight up as tech,

819
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like old school as tech ship. Where'd she get that

820
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 2>idea from?

821
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 3>You know exactly? And you wonder was she does she

822
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 3>actually know this or was this being channeled through her

823
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 3>by some demon?

824
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But I'm with the ladder of those two things obviously, but.

825
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I believe that there is some crossover in that in

826
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 3>that area that you know, we start going a little

827
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 3>bit supernatural. But and she believed, like the people believe

828
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 3>that this granted them supernatural powers, which is just crazy.

829
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Now, but who's to say that it didn't, you know,

830
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like I'm almost.

831
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Thinking maybe I'm gonna make a bulletproof that's for sure.

832
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 5>You know what the problem is, you know, like you

833
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 5>know how I mean this is just because I know

834
00:45:58.159 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 5>of things that I've seen in movies, and who knows

835
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 5>if you already know the timing and stuff, and you

836
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 5>just want people to be like dumb. Now, I'm not

837
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 5>saying that the lady did this, but like I do

838
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 5>wonder if there's like things that you could even do

839
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 5>to really make these people believe like this needs to

840
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 5>be dumb, because like from what I'm getting at is

841
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 5>in a movie I saw, Fuck, I think Bill Gibson

842
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 5>did it to Apocalypto. Those people were killing people until

843
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 5>the eclipse ended our game. Now, if you know one's coming,

844
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 5>you could play off that, Like did she use things

845
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 5>that she could even even have played off to even

846
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 5>make these people think that she was legit that much more.

847
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 3>And I mean you really not havegumented or anything. But

848
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 3>who knows, you know, for but yeah, who truly knows.

849
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Not many people know those specifics of it. But I

850
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>guess if we go back, you know, if you go

851
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 3>back to the time period and you look at it,

852
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 3>there probably was some maybe there was some solar solar

853
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.480
<v Speaker 3>activity going on or celestial activity that maybe they could

854
00:46:58.519 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 3>have played with as well.

855
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Does pioti get you fucked up?

856
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 7>Oh? Yeah?

857
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Really? So it's like tripping balls.

858
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 7>Or is it like a mile more than acid? More

859
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 7>than aid?

860
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 5>But for me though, I I only did it, I

861
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 5>mean once, maybe twice. I left my ass off though

862
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 5>more than I did on acid. Or I mean I

863
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 5>told you.

864
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 7>It's a good time.

865
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you feel I don't. Oh yeah, Piote is completely spiritual.

866
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 3>That is, that is definitely a spiritual.

867
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 2>If you mixed it with like a dead guy's blood

868
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and smoked it, like maybe they've Maybe that's why I'm saying,

869
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>like maybe they did see stuff and like you know,

870
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 2>absolutely I was looking at you.

871
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I was looking to see if iron enhances the effects

872
00:47:53.880 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of masculine you know, of psychoactive and I'm I'm pretty

873
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 1>sure if I deep dive into it'll find something, But

874
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, because masculine kind of acts

875
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.119
<v Speaker 1>on your norropenephrine epinephrine mechanism sympathetic, and you know, the

876
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>heart rate will change and so'll your increasing temperatures. Everything's

877
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>like heightened, kind of like with the LSD. Everything's heightened, right,

878
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you become a cat. You feel everything, you hear everything.

879
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>So I'm, well, how about this one, Lisa, how about

880
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 2>this one? You know how they're always talking about like

881
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>adrenalized blood, you know, can get you high on its own.

882
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 2>What if what if they're they're murdering these people, they're

883
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 2>scaring the ship out of them. They get them nice

884
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>and adrenalized, they siphon off that adrenalized blood. Didn't they

885
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>mix it with the peyote? They probably got the spirits

886
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>coming out their asshole.

887
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Dude.

888
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why I think that they were really dabbling into

889
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>some stuff.

890
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 6>They're just chugging this this uh you know, this psychoeic blood,

891
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 6>and you know they're gonna they can convince them of whatever.

892
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 6>It just sounds like a massive Mexican MK culture type

893
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.480
<v Speaker 6>experiments that I'm right.

894
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thinking.

895
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>It was the proto, the proto.

896
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah she was. She was like, Yo, Charles Manson ain't

897
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:10.559
<v Speaker 4>got shit on me.

898
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah you didn't. He was just dealing with that.

899
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Cias like, I'm slicing next for this ship.

900
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 2>He has the generic shit these guys are making. This

901
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 2>is some homemade fucking concoctions and stuff. I'm so intrigued

902
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 2>right now. I cannot wait to hear how this ends.

903
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, sorry, sorry.

904
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 3>No, no worries, no worries. Unfortunately, it is coming to

905
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 3>an end now.

906
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 7>So this, this whole.

907
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Charade, I don't even call her charade anymore because it's

908
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 3>it's past that, right. This is like this, this nightmare.

909
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 3>It went on for about six weeks, and now the

910
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 3>guestimate of how many people were killed were anywhere between

911
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 3>six to fourteen. I know that's like a large and

912
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 3>you know it could be like six to eight, which

913
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.960
<v Speaker 3>would be small, but they say anywhere between six to fourteen.

914
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And it's really unknown because you know there wasn't and

915
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.239
<v Speaker 3>you'll find out later, is that a lot of people

916
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 3>weren't talking about this. So now in May of nineteen

917
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>sixty three, this is We're going to go back to Selena.

918
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Now.

919
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>If remember Selena, Selena was the love interest of Magdalena, okay,

920
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 3>And so Selena ended up having a little fora with

921
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Santos Sernandez that was one of the original brothers, and

922
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Magdalena had kind of caught them and she was not

923
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 3>happy about this. So now Magdalena kind of made this

924
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 3>ultimatum and she said that for the riches to be presented,

925
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.559
<v Speaker 3>like if we are getting these riches, if we're giving

926
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you these wrenches riches, a true believer needed to be sacrificed, okay,

927
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 3>and this true believer, of course, would be rewarded in

928
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 3>the heavens. That was that was the claim by Magdalena.

929
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.119
<v Speaker 3>So Magdalena got Selena onto the altar and bashed her

930
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 3>head in with a rock.

931
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 2>A woman scorned right.

932
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Hispanic.

933
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure, And.

934
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, this is where it kind of all

935
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 3>humul comes to the climax of it all.

936
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 7>So what now?

937
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 3>While this is happening, there was a fourteen year old

938
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 3>boy named Sebastian Guerrero and he was out exploring near

939
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 3>the village of Yuwena. Somebody was saying he's exploring or

940
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 3>he was just walking to another nearby village. And that

941
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 3>nearby village was called what was it called? Again, I

942
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 3>have this, I should know this uh La gran Villa

943
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Grand Okay, So that's where he was, that's where he

944
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 3>was going to be headed to. Now he was near

945
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>the feet of the eastern Sierra Madre mountains, and this

946
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 3>area has tons of caves, and that's where they were

947
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 3>doing a lot of these things. They weren't doing these

948
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 3>these sacrifices right in the middle of the village. They

949
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 3>were taking these to this caves. And now, yeah, so

950
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 3>and these caves I think I might have or I

951
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 3>might have glazed over. This is that lot. There was

952
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 3>lots of legends about these caves having hidden treasure, so

953
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 3>this was something else that maybe these guys knew about

954
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 3>or played on as well. And so it was dark,

955
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and Guerrero said he saw something that intrigued him. He

956
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 3>saw these like these flickering lights coming from a nearby cave.

957
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.480
<v Speaker 3>And so as he got closer to this cave, he

958
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 3>started hearing sounds. He started hearing humans, and not sounds

959
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 3>of talking or singing, but he just heard some noises.

960
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 3>He couldn't make it out really, and he also caught

961
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 3>a whiff of like incense, probably copal, which was used

962
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 3>by the Asteco. And now with his curiosity growing, he

963
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 3>he you know, pushed past pushed past his fear, and

964
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 3>he approached the mouth of the cave and he he

965
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 3>stayed really quiet and out of sight, and he cautiously

966
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.760
<v Speaker 3>peered inside the cave and what he saw shocked him.

967
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 3>The inside the cave, he saw a ton of these

968
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 3>villagers naked, all having sex while others were passing around

969
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 3>like this ceremonial chalice, like this chalice, and they're drinking

970
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>this dark fluid. And he says, at the far end

971
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 3>of the cave, upon an altar, that's where he saw

972
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 3>where the dark fluid was coming from. It was a

973
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 3>human that had been hacked to pieces, so most likely Selena.

974
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 3>And there was the final drops of the blood that

975
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 3>were coming from her were being collected. Now standing above

976
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 3>everyone on a rock inside this cave was Magdalena Solis

977
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 3>and she was holding the heart of the victim of Selena.

978
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 7>So that is.

979
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 3>There is this is it?

980
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:51.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

981
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 3>So Grell took off running, you know, he snuck out

982
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 3>of there, made sure no one could hear him, So

983
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 3>he took off running and he ran the fifteen mind

984
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>else to the town of Bi La Grande, okay, and

985
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 3>that's where the closest police station was. And so when

986
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 3>he got there, he tried explaining to the to the

987
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 3>police what he saw, and he he wasn't doing a

988
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 3>very good job of it. He was saying, the villagers

989
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 3>were drinking blood like vampires. And you know, if you

990
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 3>heard this from this kid, you know, like this fourteen

991
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 3>year old boy, you're like, uh, whatever, you know, And

992
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 3>that's what the police did. They actually laughed at him.

993
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 3>They thought, they kind of said that his imagination was

994
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.639
<v Speaker 3>getting the best of him. They're like, no, no, So

995
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>they didn't believe him, but he wouldn't stop. So he

996
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 3>just kept on insisting that something horrific was going on

997
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.960
<v Speaker 3>in these caves. So finally the next day, finally the

998
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 3>one inspector Luis Martinez, he said, okay, okay, I'll go

999
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 3>with you, you to check it out, okay. And that

1000
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 3>was the last that anybody had seen or heard from

1001
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.599
<v Speaker 3>them ever again, of.

1002
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 2>The police officer or the police.

1003
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Of the police officer and the boy, they disappeared because

1004
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the boy had to go back to show him this.

1005
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 3>So the boy you know, like how brave was this

1006
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 3>kid to go back and this police officer went with them,

1007
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 3>so neither would be seen alive again.

1008
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:28.079
<v Speaker 2>That was it.

1009
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 3>That was the last they saw, damn.

1010
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 2>So they got a blood ritual on them too, yes, yes,

1011
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And so the police went to go look for this

1012
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 2>other guy, right, and they found okay, yeah.

1013
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.800
<v Speaker 3>So following that, then the police in vie La Grand

1014
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:48.480
<v Speaker 3>they they realized that their inspector is not coming back,

1015
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 3>so they knew something was going on, so they reached

1016
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 3>out and contacted Alberto Gomez. He was a police inspector

1017
00:55:56.440 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 3>in Monterrey, and with with his help, they organized a

1018
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 3>police and military operation. Okay, because like they brought in

1019
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 3>a helicopter and everything, and they brought in like a

1020
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 3>couple of battalions of military men. They knew something was

1021
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 3>going on then, you know, they actually then believed that

1022
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 3>this boy was telling them some truth. So what happened then,

1023
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 3>now this is like the ultimate ultimate showdown. So the

1024
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 3>it led to a shootout, you know, where the one

1025
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 3>brother Santo Ernandez was shot and killed. He was they're

1026
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 3>doing the shootout and he was trying to run away.

1027
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 3>They killed him, and so guy at Dano, which is

1028
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the other brother, and Jesus Roberto, which was the one

1029
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 3>villager who knew everything was he knew what was going on.

1030
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 3>They they they ran off and they hit and they

1031
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 3>got away. But and what their plan was, They're gonna

1032
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.920
<v Speaker 3>wait till this all blew over. We're gonna go hide

1033
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 3>in his case and wait for it ultimately over and

1034
00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 3>then they could, you know, come back and regain control

1035
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.639
<v Speaker 3>role of this town again after the military and the

1036
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 3>police left. But that's where greed takes control. But Jesus

1037
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:11.679
<v Speaker 3>took it upon himself to well, I can now be

1038
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 3>in controlled. So he actually killed Guya Dano, So he

1039
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 3>used a rock and murdered him. So that was, you know,

1040
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:24.480
<v Speaker 3>like this has just gone absolute off the rails. Now,

1041
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 3>So the police and the military they find Magdalena and

1042
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 3>her brother and they are high as a kite off

1043
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 3>their rockers in a house. Okay, so they arrest them

1044
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and they also discover Jesus as well, and so they

1045
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 3>arrest him as well. Now all the maining villagers were arrested.

1046
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 3>A few were killed in the shootout though, so that

1047
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.440
<v Speaker 3>is what happened. They arrested every single person of this town.

1048
00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Every single person was arrested, which is crazy. You know,

1049
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 3>they took everybody away. Yeah, so that's where we say

1050
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that at this point that is kind of like, oh,

1051
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 3>they didn't get.

1052
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Out on like good behavior or anything, did they?

1053
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 3>No? And unfortunately, so unfortunately the trail runs cold as

1054
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 3>to what exactly happened to Magdalena, Like I can tell

1055
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 3>you what happened in courts and that. So, so what

1056
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 3>happened is the.

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00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 7>So they.

1058
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 3>They took them to court and Magdalena was sentenced to fit.

1059
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Magdalena and alas are alis Are were convicted of two

1060
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:48.280
<v Speaker 3>murders and sentenced to fifty years in prison. Now, the

1061
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 3>villagers wouldn't testify against Magdalena because they were still terrified

1062
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 3>that we should do something to them. They thought they

1063
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 3>still were convinced she was a god. So they did. Yeah,

1064
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.280
<v Speaker 3>and allegedly the authorities discovered the mutilated bodies of several victims,

1065
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 3>including Guerrero and the investigator, near the cult ritual sites.

1066
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Now that is not really one hundred percent, So that

1067
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 3>is it wasn't sure if they actually found them or not.

1068
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 3>That's you hear from multiple people that some people say no,

1069
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 3>they never found them, or yes they did. So but

1070
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:29.079
<v Speaker 3>it is they did find mutilated bodies of some of

1071
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:32.320
<v Speaker 3>the victims, and that's why we get such a random

1072
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 3>number between six to fourteen.

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00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>She didn't get let out though, right.

1074
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 3>No, no, Now, the so her and her brother got

1075
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 3>fifty years and the remaining cult members, including Haesus, were

1076
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 3>given thirty year sentences, okay, And the reason why they

1077
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 3>got thirty instead of fifties because there's considerations giving to

1078
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 3>their illiteracy and impoverished backgrounds. They felt sorry for them,

1079
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.000
<v Speaker 3>but they they put everyone in jail like that was

1080
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>almost a life sentence for for most of them. Now,

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01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Magdalena ended up disappearing in the system. Like I was saying,

1082
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 3>they don't really know what happened to her or where

1083
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>she actually went, so that.

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01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 2>You know that as yeah, suspect to me, like they

1085
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>let her ass out right or.

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01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 6>Something about the studio you too, we had any of

1087
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 6>the details here. Sounds like this might have been.

1088
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 7>A large scale affair, like where are these folks?

1089
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.159
<v Speaker 3>It was? It ended was getting an arsenal from It

1090
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 3>ended really really fast, is from what I understand. It

1091
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 3>was over very quick. It wasn't a you know, I'm

1092
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 3>sure some of them had some rifles and that was it.

1093
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.320
<v Speaker 3>So they said a shootout. But I'm assuming this a

1094
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 3>couple of them had rifles and the rest of them

1095
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe had machetes and other tool implements to you to

1096
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.119
<v Speaker 3>try to a good attack.

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01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.440
<v Speaker 6>But they all because when you said shootout, I was thinking, well,

1098
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 6>they've already got peoty in marijuana.

1099
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 7>They running drugs and set guns up.

1100
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was because that. Yeah, it was because of

1101
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 3>the cartel in the beginning. Who's who's to say that

1102
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.280
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have any weapons left over from the cartel

1103
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:17.679
<v Speaker 3>when the cartel was there, you know, they might have

1104
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 3>left some things.

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01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:21.159
<v Speaker 6>They might have been the new owners of the cartail, right,

1106
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 6>new franchise owners of that operation.

1107
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

1108
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think. Was it was it golf cartel

1109
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that was still in power in nineteen sixties in that area.

1110
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that.

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01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. Now.

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01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so similar to the Adolpho, isn't it It is?

1113
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 1>It is, thank you, thank you, very very similar.

1114
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.639
<v Speaker 2>So similar. And they let that guy go, I mean

1115
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 2>they fake, he faked his death and they let him go,

1116
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's like they lost this girl in the system.

1117
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no one, No one knows No one knows where

1118
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 3>she No one knows because they.

1119
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Fucking let her out. Dude, for one hundred they let

1120
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:01.440
<v Speaker 2>her out, or they didn't even the trial didn't even happen,

1121
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't even you know what I mean.

1122
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I'm sure the trial happened, but they just

1123
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.320
<v Speaker 3>shipped her in. Then I don't know, maybe she conjured

1124
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.480
<v Speaker 3>up some some Aztec goddess ship, then.

1125
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>She conjured up a government. I'm telling you, we got

1126
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to look into it. He knows somebody, somebody knew her.

1127
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe maybe there were some supernatural powers granted by

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01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the drinking of this and they brought her in to

1129
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:27.920
<v Speaker 3>study her further.

1130
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, they could be studying the ship out of her,

1131
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 2>but she's somewhere and they let it. They let her

1132
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:36.079
<v Speaker 2>ass go, or.

1133
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>She, in my opinion, the oracle of a drug lord.

1134
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Something. They love that ship. There's no way you're gonna

1135
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 2>let a cult leader like this go because if they

1136
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 2>let Adolfo go, why would they let her. Why would

1137
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.599
<v Speaker 2>they put her up like She's got a whole ass,

1138
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, cult behind her death, cult.

1139
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 3>That drinks the blood. Now, one thing to know about

1140
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 3>this is that there is so many stories out there,

1141
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 3>trying to find the truth is extremely difficult because it

1142
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, with legends and even conspiracies, you know, everybody

1143
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:19.239
<v Speaker 3>adds into the pot and it gets so difficult to

1144
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 3>actually find the truth. And being in conspiracies, I'm sure

1145
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 3>you guys know that. You know, the government will throw

1146
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:28.280
<v Speaker 3>in three quarters of those conspiracies to really throw us

1147
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 3>off the trail. You know, they try to redirect us.

1148
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.400
<v Speaker 3>And who's who's to say that, you know, when you're

1149
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 3>searching for this, that's not it, and like to to

1150
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 3>add creatas to that. You know, when when you google

1151
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Magdalena Solas and the picture that comes up, I would say,

1152
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, seventy five percent of the pictures that come

1153
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 3>up are not Magdalena Solis. Okay, it's Dagmar o Ogilbee

1154
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 3>and who was a Danish serial killer who died thirty

1155
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:59.880
<v Speaker 3>years before all this happened. So if you google it

1156
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 3>and you see this one picture, it's not that's not her.

1157
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 3>That's not right.

1158
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:07.719
<v Speaker 7>I'm already there.

1159
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Let me, uh, I had I had that open, but

1160
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna.

1161
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I remember hearing that on your show, and I

1162
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.239
<v Speaker 5>went to go check, and I did notice two different pictures,

1163
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 5>but there is one that it seem to have a

1164
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 5>lot more.

1165
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Is there a big Is it a big fat lady

1166
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 2>in a pink dress? No?

1167
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 3>No, so no so Megala. You'll see one where she's

1168
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 3>got like a lace top and a bow on her front.

1169
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 3>That's not that's a That is a Dagmar. That's Dagmar.

1170
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:45.360
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

1171
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.360
<v Speaker 3>So the other one, yes, who has the mole. The

1172
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.639
<v Speaker 3>one who has the mole is Magdalena Solis.

1173
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 5>That is weird though, if you were to like put

1174
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 5>in Magdalena Sola's I have incident, and then in Google

1175
01:04:57.519 --> 01:04:59.639
<v Speaker 5>and I went over to images, you'll see, Yeah, it's

1176
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:01.519
<v Speaker 5>probably I would say on my end it's about half

1177
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.880
<v Speaker 5>and half. That is wild that you will see.

1178
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 3>The one hunter. That's exactly it. I agree. It's always

1179
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 3>about this confusion and misdirection to take you into a

1180
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.559
<v Speaker 3>different way to when you're doing any type of research.

1181
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, like I talk about that with like think

1182
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 3>about Walt Disney. You know, is Walt Disney frozen? Is

1183
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:26.519
<v Speaker 3>his body crowdgantically frozen? Well, why don't you type in

1184
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Walt Disney frozen and see what comes up? Oh, we

1185
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 3>got the cartoon frozen. You know, it's all about these

1186
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 3>like we'll take you here. It just makes it a

1187
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:36.360
<v Speaker 3>little more difficult to actually find the truth.

1188
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they even did a I don't know if you

1189
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.159
<v Speaker 2>watch this, but they did an American Dad episode on

1190
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 2>that about like I did not Disney being frozen in

1191
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 2>the theme park. And but anyways, let me just ask

1192
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.119
<v Speaker 2>you your personal opinion. I don't know where you ride

1193
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:57.039
<v Speaker 2>on the conspiracy stream, but are you more spiritual with this?

1194
01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1195
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Us too? But like if you had a look at

1196
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 2>it from like a spiritual perspective, if you had to

1197
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:06.280
<v Speaker 2>look at it from you know, they've added spices to

1198
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.360
<v Speaker 2>this and maybe some of it is you know, just

1199
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:13.320
<v Speaker 2>made up. Like what what do you think about all it?

1200
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, bottom line is that there was some people who

1201
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 3>went off the rails after drinking blood. I believe that

1202
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.920
<v Speaker 3>blood drinking happened for sure. Okay, what human drug? Blood drinking? Yeah,

1203
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that happened as well. Whether it came down

1204
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 3>to the actual heart coming up, there is stories about that,

1205
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and they did have the mutilated bodies, But I believe

1206
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:40.159
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of this legitimately happened to what what

1207
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.119
<v Speaker 3>degree was it fantasized and escalated and made a lot more.

1208
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Hollywood esque, I can't say, but there

1209
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 3>was a group of people who took over a town

1210
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 3>and they killed and murdered a lot of people. Now

1211
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the I'm on the boat of that. There

1212
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.920
<v Speaker 3>definitely was some form of possession in there. I believe

1213
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.159
<v Speaker 3>there was some sort of demonic possession, especially when they

1214
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 3>started drinking the blood of these animals or these for

1215
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.159
<v Speaker 3>sure the blood of the people, you know, like that

1216
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 3>is one And when you talked about like they had

1217
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 3>drenalized a blood, you know, that is something else that well,

1218
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 3>we know that it It gives people a high, right,

1219
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, not only you're mixing with pyote, you're you're

1220
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 3>having this this this high as well. And I'm I'm

1221
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 3>I believe that there was definitely some possession. And you know,

1222
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 3>was she actually possessed by a demon or or was

1223
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 3>she believing this was you know, herself. I think she

1224
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 3>became you know, I don't know, drunk with power and

1225
01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 3>and it just took it over. It took her over,

1226
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and she allowed herself to be she allowed herself to

1227
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 3>be a receptacle for for a entity.

1228
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, I yeah, I would agree with you on that.

1229
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.239
<v Speaker 2>It kind of reminds me of did you ever watch

1230
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie The Mist? Stephen King?

1231
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 3>I know the movie, but I have not watched it.

1232
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.480
<v Speaker 2>It's basically like if you get a small group of

1233
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>people together, there was one superligious lady who ended up

1234
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 2>like saying, you know, oh, we got it.

1235
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:15.559
<v Speaker 3>We got to make the great.

1236
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Sacrifices, right, you know what I'm talking about, Nick? And

1237
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.720
<v Speaker 2>it always comes it always ends up in like blood

1238
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 2>sacrifices because there were these monster things outside of this

1239
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.119
<v Speaker 2>grocery store that lived in the mist or whatever, and

1240
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.119
<v Speaker 2>she would say, you know, we have to throw one

1241
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:35.760
<v Speaker 2>person out and let them get eaten and you know,

1242
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 2>fucked up by this creature so it won't get us.

1243
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's like anytime you get like you take a

1244
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 2>small group of people, you put one religious wacko in

1245
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the middle, it always ends up in like blood sacrificing,

1246
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's just it makes you think, how

1247
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 2>many times has this story repeated itself throughout history and

1248
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 2>we still don't get it. I almost feel like COVID

1249
01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was one of those things. It's like, put people in

1250
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 2>mass hysteria, give us one fucking weirdo that's got all

1251
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the answers and watch everybody eat each other alive. It's

1252
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, it's it's just like a tale is.

1253
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Old at time, like and your blood sacrifices will lock

1254
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.920
<v Speaker 3>all the old people in the old folks home with

1255
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.560
<v Speaker 3>people who got this COVID here.

1256
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

1257
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:25.159
<v Speaker 3>Crazy.

1258
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I will say that the type of activity with the

1259
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:38.399
<v Speaker 1>killing and the mutilation and the ritualized dismemberment and something

1260
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it and not not that I'm trying to normalize it,

1261
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<v Speaker 1>but it is common among cartels. I mean, I think

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01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.199
<v Speaker 1>in some respects, I think people had even said that

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<v Speaker 1>the that the ritual killings of cartels was worse than isis.

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01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I do know from living in South Texas

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01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 1>that there were many times that people came upon sites

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01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that were witness to what was left behind and it

1267
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:08.359
<v Speaker 1>was not, you know, obviously easy to look at, but

1268
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and this is something that's common. And I think somebody

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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll even go off and speculate that they had said,

1270
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 1>what you know, what do you think is happening? And

1271
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:20.720
<v Speaker 1>they said, well, I think the the people, the Esseet

1272
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 1>people have come back right to reclaim and because of

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01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the type of stylized killings, the type of stylized whatever.

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01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And so when you hear about things like this with Montdalena,

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01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.039
<v Speaker 1>you hear about adultfo you hear about these things, it's

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01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 1>almost like like lockstep. You know that it's just a

1277
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:42.720
<v Speaker 1>continuation of what was happening back then. But it is

1278
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.199
<v Speaker 1>very unusual that she kind of fell through the cracks

1279
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 1>or slipped through the system conveniently, maybe out of her

1280
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 1>own you know, kind of wits to kind of slip out,

1281
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.760
<v Speaker 1>or somebody picked her up, or you know, maybe it

1282
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 1>was an opt to begin with and somebody picked her up.

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01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I'm leaning that way.

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01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:07.399
<v Speaker 1>To the east side, and you're gonna try it on

1285
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.319
<v Speaker 1>some higher level people. I don't know.

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01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's like I've been saying this recently, and

1287
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like it fits this because we

1288
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:21.000
<v Speaker 2>can speculate, right, and they'll call it like you're speculating,

1289
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:24.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're adding stuff that we can't verify. But

1290
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.840
<v Speaker 2>they there has been such a concerted effort to get

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01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 2>us to not believe our own eyes and not being

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01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.399
<v Speaker 2>able to put clues together and like not be able

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01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to take like storylines and infer detail, like you're giving

1294
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 2>me this story right, and you want me not to

1295
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:47.319
<v Speaker 2>believe my own eyes. It bothers me because it's like, yeah, okay,

1296
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:53.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm speculating, but it's like a dolpho. Okay, they

1297
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:58.279
<v Speaker 2>obviously faked that motherfucker's death, right he escaped with the

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01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Only thing this story is made sing about Magdalena is

1299
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 2>like she turned out to be trans in the end.

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01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 2>It has all the freaking bookmarks of like, don't believe

1301
01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:11.439
<v Speaker 2>your own eyes, don't look over here. Nothing just a

1302
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 2>bunch of crazy people, and you know, and she got

1303
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 2>lost in the system, but believe us, she's in jail, okay,

1304
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.960
<v Speaker 2>because you said so. And it's just like what really

1305
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.399
<v Speaker 2>was going on out there? You know, I'm starting to

1306
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.680
<v Speaker 2>lean towards this could have been another like program to

1307
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 2>kill cult just like Adolfo and all those places. And

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01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 2>what was it, I said, Lisa, where they had the

1309
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.520
<v Speaker 2>sweat shops and they were like killing the workers and

1310
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:47.319
<v Speaker 2>shit was it? Yeah, warez Yep and wares and they

1311
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.640
<v Speaker 2>were stealing all the factory workers and like selling them

1312
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:56.079
<v Speaker 2>for mutual mutual, ritual ritual killings and stuff. But it

1313
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 2>just seems to me like they have a plan out

1314
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.600
<v Speaker 2>there and they're able to get away with more stuff

1315
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 2>because they're not like keeping up with shit like this

1316
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:05.800
<v Speaker 2>is the first time I've ever heard about this.

1317
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Why, you know what, because this one has been covered

1318
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 3>up greatly. Like my brother in law, he's a Mexican

1319
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.920
<v Speaker 3>and he is into all of this kind of dark

1320
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy stuff, you know, like these things. Specifically, he had

1321
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 3>no idea. He had no idea. The only person who

1322
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I talked to from this area who knew anything was

1323
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.880
<v Speaker 3>a thirteen year old boy who loves history. He is

1324
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.039
<v Speaker 3>he just you know, takes in any and all history,

1325
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 3>and he's the only one who knew about it. No

1326
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:37.439
<v Speaker 3>one else had any idea about this at all.

1327
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, do these people not have families? Like

1328
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 2>does Magdalene? It was just her brother and like no

1329
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 2>family members.

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01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 3>No, Like, well, if her brother's pimping are out at

1331
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:52.640
<v Speaker 3>twelve years old, you know, I'm thinking the family really

1332
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 3>wasn't there or around as much.

1333
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean you're probably right about that.

1334
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 6>And I'm not surprised you get lost in the system.

1335
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.399
<v Speaker 6>They're in prison because this lady's clearly and I asked

1336
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.000
<v Speaker 6>that she's very effective.

1337
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 7>At what she was doing.

1338
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 3>Yes, or she convinced someone, or she was able to

1339
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 3>convince someone, you know, to to take her in, you know,

1340
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 3>like some sort of public official.

1341
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 7>She was able to convince a lot of Yeah, not

1342
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 7>just the prostitution ones.

1343
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 1>The prison system in Mexico is is a very loose system, correct,

1344
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it's I think the rumor was that in the prison

1345
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:31.880
<v Speaker 1>systems in Mexico, you could, you know, show up on

1346
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the weekends or show up every other day, or do

1347
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you had all kinds of luxuries in the

1348
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 1>prison system. Correct me if I'm wrong, but.

1349
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I believe the luxuries. I'm not sure about showing up though,

1350
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 3>And like.

1351
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:49.079
<v Speaker 1>When I was, I was trying to be loose about it.

1352
01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, real real quick. When I was, I did

1353
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.439
<v Speaker 5>hear from a lot of dudes when I believe it

1354
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 5>or not. When I was in federal prison, there was

1355
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:58.800
<v Speaker 5>actually a fuck ton of people waiting to get supported.

1356
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.199
<v Speaker 5>Believe it. There is a ton of people wasting up

1357
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:07.159
<v Speaker 5>space in prison actually that are not here legally. And they, oh,

1358
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:12.520
<v Speaker 5>it was so many it was ridiculous. I hate to say,

1359
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.439
<v Speaker 5>but if they had brown skin in federal prison, it

1360
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 5>was like odds are it was cocaine or you're really

1361
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 5>illegal reentry. Yeah, they wait years to even get fucking

1362
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:25.119
<v Speaker 5>sent home.

1363
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:30.920
<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous. Cut Yeah, fuck, I forgot where I was

1364
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:31.159
<v Speaker 4>going with.

1365
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh, but I saw I was able to talk to

1366
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:35.600
<v Speaker 5>a lot of dudes that actually did time in Mexican prison,

1367
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 5>and they'll be The thing is is that a lot

1368
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:40.359
<v Speaker 5>of them it was already their second or third time too,

1369
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.159
<v Speaker 5>which is really interesting, and like sometimes when you go

1370
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:44.840
<v Speaker 5>back you will have to do time in your own,

1371
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:49.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, good country. And they were saying, for a fact,

1372
01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 5>they said, if you have money and you end up

1373
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:54.479
<v Speaker 5>in Mexican prison, you will live a completely different life

1374
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:55.359
<v Speaker 5>than everybody else.

1375
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:55.720
<v Speaker 4>In that does.

1376
01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.640
<v Speaker 5>They said, there's people that they know that if like

1377
01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:02.039
<v Speaker 5>they're rich and they can hold their money, like they're

1378
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.199
<v Speaker 5>rich enough to where they'll be rich until they get out.

1379
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.479
<v Speaker 5>They'll knock a wall down and give them two selves.

1380
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:09.760
<v Speaker 5>If you want to pay for it, still bring up prostitutes,

1381
01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:13.079
<v Speaker 5>still bring in food. They said, if you have money,

1382
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 5>you will live completely different in Mexican prison.

1383
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.319
<v Speaker 3>They'll they'll bring in stuff as well. That it definitely hurts.

1384
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, hey, guys told me that they definitely I mean again,

1385
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 5>that whole thing was not going to wall down. I

1386
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.880
<v Speaker 5>don't know about that, but like that does sound extreme,

1387
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:28.560
<v Speaker 5>but I've had multiple people tell me that, like sex

1388
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.000
<v Speaker 5>in food is still an option while you're in that prison.

1389
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, is it just for rich people or.

1390
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1391
01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1392
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Is it just who you know though? Too, because like

1393
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:42.720
<v Speaker 2>they said, you just got to have money stories. Actually

1394
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard stories I read in Programmed to Kill.

1395
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Some of these programmed like CIA serial killers, they get

1396
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the most luxurious treatment when they're even even on death row,

1397
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.399
<v Speaker 2>like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, they all got like

1398
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 2>this super luxurious treatment while they were locked up, and

1399
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:06.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like, is it who you know or is it

1400
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:10.600
<v Speaker 2>who your connections are? Or is it like John Wayne

1401
01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Gacy got some crazy like luxurious treatment and like Ted

1402
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Bundy had a kid on death row, like he had conjugals,

1403
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 2>he had all that stuff, and it's like, I don't know.

1404
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think even in Mexican prisons, it's like Magdalena

1405
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:31.479
<v Speaker 2>probably you know, who knows what happened to her, But

1406
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.520
<v Speaker 2>it's all in who who your connections are.

1407
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they got that was definitely one like one of

1408
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 3>my my questions is you know, did she keep up

1409
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:43.479
<v Speaker 3>this facade or this belief that she was this God.

1410
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 5>I too, I was like, is she still be portraying

1411
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 5>this in jail? Is she like kicking back, drinking blood,

1412
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.239
<v Speaker 5>still like paying.

1413
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:50.560
<v Speaker 4>Off the guards.

1414
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Let's say you believed it so hard. I'm sure you

1415
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.479
<v Speaker 3>could convince people in jail that you were this person,

1416
01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, and then you just start getting people to

1417
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.399
<v Speaker 3>uh to follow suit. Because I'm assuming if you're going

1418
01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 3>to a woman's federal penitentiary, you know, there's not the

1419
01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:08.880
<v Speaker 3>education level is going to be quite low there, and

1420
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you're just going to keep applying your trade.

1421
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:16.479
<v Speaker 2>And she's already a legibo. So it's like paradise for her.

1422
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of But even if even if she was wasn't

1423
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.399
<v Speaker 1>able to convince him of God, I would think that

1424
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.319
<v Speaker 1>she would have at least some sort of Bruhidia tactics

1425
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 1>or tools and would somehow convince people, even in prison,

1426
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, you want this person to I don't

1427
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:37.239
<v Speaker 1>lose their hair. I mean, you want this person to

1428
01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:40.119
<v Speaker 1>like belly over whatever. You know, let me let me

1429
01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:42.439
<v Speaker 1>show you a few things and then just right away

1430
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.079
<v Speaker 1>you can get people on your side. I mean, I

1431
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:48.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I.

1432
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:49.640
<v Speaker 7>Just can't believe this lady's said in prison.

1433
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:51.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I understand the system is a bit different there,

1434
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 6>but she just to me seems like she has too

1435
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.680
<v Speaker 6>many skill sets, you know, and to compare comparatively speaking, like,

1436
01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't think Charles Manson ever went to prison.

1437
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.680
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of different story since you see videos of

1438
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 7>men I don't think in prison.

1439
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.880
<v Speaker 6>But he's never following the the penal coat standards of

1440
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:08.960
<v Speaker 6>hair length and beard length and et cetera.

1441
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>So I've noticed that too.

1442
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:14.560
<v Speaker 6>To the note of preferential treatment, his right hand man

1443
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.079
<v Speaker 6>Bobby Bosley was somehow able to record a soundtrack to

1444
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 6>a Kenneth Anger film while in prison.

1445
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.600
<v Speaker 2>See this is the ship I'm talking about. It's all

1446
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:25.439
<v Speaker 2>who you know? And like did they even go to jail?

1447
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.439
<v Speaker 2>That's another question for me, is like did they even

1448
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:29.640
<v Speaker 2>go to jail?

1449
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

1450
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Like it's.

1451
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:34.359
<v Speaker 3>I have not gone down.

1452
01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:37.760
<v Speaker 2>You gotta you gotta have us on your show.

1453
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:42.479
<v Speaker 3>We will open since opened some minds.

1454
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, did you guys see they're putting Chaos on Netflix? Dude,

1455
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for that.

1456
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:54.319
<v Speaker 7>Wow.

1457
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I don't have a I don't have a lot

1458
01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.520
<v Speaker 6>of not very optimistic about it, you know. He when

1459
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:04.720
<v Speaker 6>For example, when Tom Neil introduced the project, he did

1460
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 6>it on Rick Rubin's podcast, and then they got into

1461
01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:10.119
<v Speaker 6>this offhanded tangent of how they both didn't know anything

1462
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:13.479
<v Speaker 6>about the process despite Tom's twenty year research in de

1463
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.600
<v Speaker 6>Manson and Rick Rubbin literally producing an album called The

1464
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Process based upon the Process Church theology. But they both

1465
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 6>played these games and we don't we don't know what

1466
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.359
<v Speaker 6>the process is. So I'm not very optimistic in that

1467
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.239
<v Speaker 6>project because, you know, not solely based on their their

1468
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 6>little conversation, but you know that obviously seems exhibit a

1469
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:31.399
<v Speaker 6>lot I think's going on there.

1470
01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I always say, as soon as

1471
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.439
<v Speaker 2>a documentary hits HBO or Netflix, you can count on

1472
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it being one dog shit, fucking propaganda bull that no

1473
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>actual facts at all. Like watch him come out with

1474
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a documentary on Magdalene As solely you watch it and

1475
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:52.399
<v Speaker 2>you think it's all just a bunch of like hate

1476
01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:55.479
<v Speaker 2>gory degree doc bullshit that they put in all HBO

1477
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Netflix documentaries. I mean, all they have to have, like

1478
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I always say, is good background music, a couple of

1479
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:06.239
<v Speaker 2>scary images and they got you. It's it's brainwashing. Its

1480
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:09.319
<v Speaker 2>m K to the Max with those things.

1481
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.960
<v Speaker 7>It's like, that's what I was gonna Yeah, no, not

1482
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:14.439
<v Speaker 7>that I know.

1483
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not a wild now, you know, when you're

1484
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.039
<v Speaker 3>talking about those terrible documentaries, you know, like the m

1485
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 3>H three seventy, the Malaysian airlines that went missing, the

1486
01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 3>documentary they had on Netflix, you know, it's like, we're

1487
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:27.600
<v Speaker 3>just gonna go here and leave it at this. We're

1488
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:31.399
<v Speaker 3>not gonna go actually fully into full like everything, and

1489
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:37.399
<v Speaker 3>they leave you believing that this was all is all possible,

1490
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:38.479
<v Speaker 3>like it just crashed, that's it.

1491
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Nothing more right, a fire event or something.

1492
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Like that, and it just you know, I do believe

1493
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:46.079
<v Speaker 3>there was a fire event. I do believe there with

1494
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:48.239
<v Speaker 3>that MAH three seventy that there was a fire event.

1495
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 2>There was a fire event. But it's not. It wasn't

1496
01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>what they're making it out to be because well, let

1497
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 2>me just tell you this. I almost got to chills

1498
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:57.720
<v Speaker 2>when you said that, because I've been researching it and

1499
01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually thinking it's more like I heard a guy

1500
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.199
<v Speaker 2>talking about it. I think it was on the Confessionals podcast,

1501
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:09.199
<v Speaker 2>but he's Forbes. Yeah, oh my god, the guy's got

1502
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it nailed with like the physics and everything like they disappeared,

1503
01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that motherfucker, like the Bermuda triangle.

1504
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.600
<v Speaker 3>So just recently he was on Candice Owens and he goes, yeah,

1505
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:25.279
<v Speaker 3>much more detail, and he's amazing. I talked to him

1506
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:27.119
<v Speaker 3>after he was on The Confessionals. I was trying to

1507
01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:31.000
<v Speaker 3>get him on my show. I never I never follow through.

1508
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Well that actually that was the point where I was.

1509
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I had another show and I had a co host,

1510
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and I ended that relationship and I started my own show,

1511
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:42.119
<v Speaker 3>and I never followed up with Ash, and I should

1512
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:44.399
<v Speaker 3>have at that time, because now he's I think he's

1513
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.119
<v Speaker 3>almost too big for.

1514
01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Me to get on at this He's a hot commodity.

1515
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.439
<v Speaker 2>He is he is, Yeah, I mean he went all

1516
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the way to like he found the CIA guy and

1517
01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:58.800
<v Speaker 2>everything on that. I mean, but then I'm glad that

1518
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:02.640
<v Speaker 2>you know about that, because it makes me think you're

1519
01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:09.119
<v Speaker 2>on the level with like the conspiracy stuff. Because even

1520
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>with stuff like the True Crime I always say, if

1521
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 2>you look hard enough at true crime, you'll see remnants

1522
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:21.800
<v Speaker 2>of conspiracy in there. I mean, it's like military connections,

1523
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:25.640
<v Speaker 2>government connections, which is why I asked you right in

1524
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:28.279
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this episode, like these brothers, like what

1525
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>do we know about them, dude, Like it just seems

1526
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a little odd, like this scam they're trying to find

1527
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>these isolated places to conduct like almost like a mind experiment.

1528
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:42.680
<v Speaker 3>It just when you're talking. I really believe that mk

1529
01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:45.319
<v Speaker 3>ultra plays a much bigger role than we really believe,

1530
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, because mk ultra was the mixing of drugs,

1531
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:53.279
<v Speaker 3>with mixing of drugs and psychedelics to to implant messages

1532
01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 3>into people. Right, So with all these medications that people

1533
01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.840
<v Speaker 3>are taking now, like like candy now these days, you know,

1534
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.359
<v Speaker 3>and with everything that's on TV, I'm sure that they're

1535
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.239
<v Speaker 3>implanting a ton of messages into these people. And I

1536
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 3>believe that mk ultra is much bigger than we actually

1537
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>care to believe. I think it's huge.

1538
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 7>Yah. I think it's still going on for sure.

1539
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1540
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Well there's an example of it going on in

1541
01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:19.359
<v Speaker 7>and around Mexico.

1542
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:23.000
<v Speaker 6>In recent years, the Nexium cult was shipping kids to

1543
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 6>and from Albany and New York on their locations to

1544
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:29.159
<v Speaker 6>child farms in Mexico. They were employing a neurologist up

1545
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.199
<v Speaker 6>there in Albany to do a lot of the training

1546
01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:32.199
<v Speaker 6>for their membership.

1547
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:34.359
<v Speaker 3>He was running the Finders Club.

1548
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Finders Club was running kids in and out of Mexico.

1549
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Dude, you know I was thinking about that.

1550
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:42.520
<v Speaker 5>I swear to god, I was thinking about that because

1551
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.800
<v Speaker 5>I do find it interesting how this is two dudes

1552
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:47.520
<v Speaker 5>and I remember the Finders I think, well, it seemed

1553
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 5>to base on in court if I remember correctly, it

1554
01:24:50.279 --> 01:24:53.640
<v Speaker 5>was two guys again. And it's just like I'm like, yo, like,

1555
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 5>is there like an operation behind this? And these are

1556
01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 5>just like the faces of like kind of like the run,

1557
01:24:58.079 --> 01:24:58.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, the running it.

1558
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>We need to take a closer look at these Hernandez brothers.

1559
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:05.479
<v Speaker 2>I bet they both got their dick sweat in some

1560
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:09.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of a government CIA type you know, they you know.

1561
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Speaker 4>They had to do it.

1562
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.359
<v Speaker 3>And the backstory, you know what, Like the more you

1563
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:16.319
<v Speaker 3>talk about this, like I I didn't approach it like that,

1564
01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:18.600
<v Speaker 3>but the more you talk about it, I'm like, yeah,

1565
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:22.399
<v Speaker 3>like why not you know, like knowing the right to

1566
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, uh, you're but buena to give people. You know,

1567
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:28.800
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, yeah, we're going to drug you

1568
01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:34.399
<v Speaker 3>up and then put these suggestions into you. And it's

1569
01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:38.119
<v Speaker 3>it's interesting, you know, like they just the backstory They'renanda's brothers. There,

1570
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:43.000
<v Speaker 3>just these lifelong career scam artists. Could they be something more? Yeah?

1571
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Want to recruit those exactly, JJ, You're fucking on fire.

1572
01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I was gonna say. You'd want to

1573
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>recruit people that are lifelong scam artists.

1574
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:56.560
<v Speaker 7>Dude's lifelong scam artists.

1575
01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Just gonna say it was a lifelong scam artist, dude,

1576
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>that's those are the perfect people. Okay, let's let's talk

1577
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>like logically, I'm going to start a cult tomorrow. All

1578
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>of you assholes are part of my cult. We're going

1579
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to start a cold tomorrow.

1580
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the.

1581
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Drinking where Okay, let's just think about it. Where can

1582
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:22.079
<v Speaker 2>we go right now? That you all know that's got

1583
01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>no electricity, no form of religion, no like they just

1584
01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>need it.

1585
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:30.800
<v Speaker 3>So how did they know?

1586
01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>How did they know?

1587
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Back then?

1588
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1589
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>They know it's like this, this ship is always guided,

1590
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:42.239
<v Speaker 2>it's always manipulated. It's like, oh, these two brothers stumbled

1591
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 2>upon this place with no form.

1592
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Now here's something to add to that. Here's something to

1593
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:49.199
<v Speaker 3>add to that. So prior was you know, the the

1594
01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.479
<v Speaker 3>the cartel was in there, right and they got ran

1595
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:58.640
<v Speaker 3>out by the federalies. The federalllies were there to remove them, right,

1596
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:02.640
<v Speaker 3>So the federaly already had scoped this place. Is kind

1597
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 3>of what what we're if you're going with that. They

1598
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 3>were there already, they seen this place, they see maybe

1599
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>the potential for this.

1600
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they didn't they maybe they let him let

1601
01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>them know, like they gave them a leg up on it,

1602
01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:19.479
<v Speaker 2>and they just you know, hey, there's this place and

1603
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:21.479
<v Speaker 2>they don't have at least I feel like you were

1604
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>going to say something earlier.

1605
01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, just a couple of things. What I was

1606
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>going to add to the conspiracy lore that we're espousing now.

1607
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Magdalena really quickly on Wikipedia. I don't

1608
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>know if it's true, but it says that she was

1609
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>born nineteen forty seven. I was like, what if she's

1610
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the moon child? Why pars? Oh god, I'm just kidding. Okay.

1611
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So the other thing I was going to say is

1612
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>really was born in forty seven.

1613
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.119
<v Speaker 7>But that's yeah, Now you heard Mexico in forty seven.

1614
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes they were, And so did any of the village

1615
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:01.199
<v Speaker 1>people say anything, like did they were? They questioned?

1616
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so the village the village people, Well, yeah,

1617
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>they they kept quiet. They would not testify. They just

1618
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:17.159
<v Speaker 3>took their lumps and went to prison. They would not.

1619
01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it like manson and they fucking washed those bitches

1620
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And they didn't have any fucking memory of this shit?

1621
01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Like what if they didn't what if they couldn't tell

1622
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>anything because they didn't remember it. Like I'm just I'm

1623
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>going like above and beyond at this point because something

1624
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>like this doesn't break loose and they're not be like

1625
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>strings being pulled in some capacity. It's like they got

1626
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>all these assholes in there and they like did like men.

1627
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:47.479
<v Speaker 3>In black and.

1628
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:54.159
<v Speaker 2>You don't remember anything, And they were like, did this

1629
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:58.399
<v Speaker 2>woman kill all these people? I don't know, No she didn't.

1630
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Who think it's it's so easy for them to totally

1631
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>wipe you of that stuff. I almost think that they

1632
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>do it to us on a daily basis. How many

1633
01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>people do you know right now? Who if you ask them,

1634
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>they're like, damn, doesn't it feel like COVID was forever

1635
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 2>ago and we've gotten so used to like getting back

1636
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to normal life. It's like it never happened. It's like, dude, no,

1637
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>let's always remember that ship because it wasn't forever. It

1638
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:29.399
<v Speaker 2>was like in our recent past, like within five years,

1639
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>and uh we we you never forget, remember, yeah.

1640
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, you know, so I will never forget that bullshit

1641
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>that they tried to putting on me now and I'll

1642
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:43.920
<v Speaker 3>never forget the people, including my family, who uh disowned

1643
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>me almost because of it. All. Oh one hundred, that's

1644
01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:49.239
<v Speaker 3>the quick I know. I probably all you guys all

1645
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:51.600
<v Speaker 3>have experienced that where it was you know.

1646
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:57.119
<v Speaker 7>A little surprise. There's no cool and in the end

1647
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 7>of the story with these village people, no right.

1648
01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>The kool aid was a blund you know what I'm saying.

1649
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:07.000
<v Speaker 7>But get rid of all they could even be questioned, right,

1650
01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:07.479
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean.

1651
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:12.119
<v Speaker 1>See see Jim Jones, what's your name is Sam Magdalena?

1652
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>She he ain't got shot on Jim Jones. She went

1653
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:17.359
<v Speaker 1>for the real dude, Jim Jones passing around kool aid.

1654
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what it's about. She went for the hard stuff.

1655
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:24.119
<v Speaker 6>It is a surprising that, I mean, it could speak

1656
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:26.560
<v Speaker 6>to the stranglehole this lady had on them mentally speaking

1657
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:29.359
<v Speaker 6>under my control, but like you know, surprising none of

1658
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:31.560
<v Speaker 6>these village folks said a damn word or at least

1659
01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, probably seems like they said a damn word.

1660
01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:34.960
<v Speaker 7>It sounds like that's what I'm saying.

1661
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:37.239
<v Speaker 1>It's weird that they didn't say anything, or the kids

1662
01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>or somebody you know, said something.

1663
01:30:39.640 --> 01:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Unless they got fucking wiped, dude, unless they got wiped

1664
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>for somehow.

1665
01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:47.680
<v Speaker 3>The other way, every every member of the village was

1666
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 3>put into prison for thirty years.

1667
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:52.039
<v Speaker 2>That's plenty enough time to do.

1668
01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:55.279
<v Speaker 3>You've limited and which which brings a question, like, you've

1669
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>eliminated everybody for thirty years? How did that?

1670
01:30:59.520 --> 01:30:59.920
<v Speaker 7>How did that?

1671
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>You think about it?

1672
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:01.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1673
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:02.159
<v Speaker 7>How did that?

1674
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a full on sanitation effort.

1675
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:11.600
<v Speaker 5>That's a good way just to clean out subjects all town.

1676
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:13.760
<v Speaker 5>What if there was something there that they actually wanted?

1677
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's like risa like how did the legend survive?

1678
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:19.479
<v Speaker 2>How did the.

1679
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:23.399
<v Speaker 3>How did the town survive? As well? You know if

1680
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:25.960
<v Speaker 3>you remove everyone, because you go there and you can

1681
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.279
<v Speaker 3>search it, you can find your but Buena and San

1682
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Luis Potosi it is, it's bigger now, you know, it's growing.

1683
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:37.239
<v Speaker 3>So that was sixty three. What did they resettle it?

1684
01:31:37.359 --> 01:31:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Did they bring in people from outside? Like, hey, look

1685
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:41.720
<v Speaker 3>at free houses here you go, you know, no one's

1686
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.840
<v Speaker 3>living there for thirty years because everybody was taken out.

1687
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:47.079
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. They don't talk about children though,

1688
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>so that that that's one thing is children are not mentioned.

1689
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:53.039
<v Speaker 3>There has to be children in the story. Sure they're

1690
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:54.279
<v Speaker 3>not mentioned at all.

1691
01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And more people that were brought into harvest, you know,

1692
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like day workers, but they just kept them there because

1693
01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>they were going to be you know, harvesters or what

1694
01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>do you call it, co sucha I don't remember whatever, anyway,

1695
01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about. And so therefore you

1696
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't need children, or you couldn't sustain children, right, it

1697
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>would only be the people that could work. And so

1698
01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>therefore you I mean, I don't know, I'm specing.

1699
01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:22.039
<v Speaker 6>That's scientology is added too. That's why they have children

1700
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:24.520
<v Speaker 6>farms in Mexico, because the kids orn't any good. They's

1701
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:26.720
<v Speaker 6>got to have the adults work and stuff. So you know,

1702
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:29.399
<v Speaker 6>maybe it's a new cartel or cult moved into town.

1703
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.880
<v Speaker 6>The old cartel moved out, this cult moved in. Maybe

1704
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:33.680
<v Speaker 6>they got another one coming through.

1705
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, what it's the time gap between this death cult

1706
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and Adolpho's death cult, because it's like, is this the

1707
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>footprint that they followed for.

1708
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Like so twenty years, but yeah, I thought it was

1709
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:47.439
<v Speaker 3>in the eighties adulphos.

1710
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:52.159
<v Speaker 2>So the in program to kill. And it actually ties

1711
01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>back to Jonestown too, because Henry Lee Lucas said he

1712
01:32:55.720 --> 01:33:00.399
<v Speaker 2>knew Jim Jones that that cult was part of like

1713
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>a CIA mind control type thing with Jonestown. He also

1714
01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:08.159
<v Speaker 2>said there were many death cults in Mexico. He xed

1715
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>them out on a map and was like, here's one,

1716
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>here's one. Look, here there's another one. And they were like,

1717
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:15.359
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, Henry Lely Luke, is your full of shit?

1718
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:18.159
<v Speaker 2>And then they went and they found like Adolpho's ranch,

1719
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>they found all these death ranches, bodies buried all over

1720
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:26.239
<v Speaker 2>the place, and so it's like weaponized a little bit.

1721
01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:28.399
<v Speaker 2>And you almost have to wonder if this wasn't like

1722
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:32.479
<v Speaker 2>some kind of a like a training wheels type of

1723
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>thing for what they were about to do later because

1724
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.239
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it stopped either, like we stopped

1725
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>investigating it. Sure, but if you went there right now,

1726
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you could find eight hundred and seventy two

1727
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>death cults with bodies buried all over the property. And

1728
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>you know that's just my opinion, but I mean, why

1729
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>would it have just stopped, you know, overnight.

1730
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:56.319
<v Speaker 3>True.

1731
01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:59.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think the timeframe between the Matamors colt and

1732
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.840
<v Speaker 6>this colt and the you know that, you know, you know,

1733
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.479
<v Speaker 6>the timeframe and the geographic you know, relatively close geographically speaking,

1734
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:07.600
<v Speaker 6>there's probably you know, more questions need to be asked

1735
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:10.760
<v Speaker 6>there because they matam Moores folks may have been you know,

1736
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.000
<v Speaker 6>outed in the early eighties and and rest and whatnot,

1737
01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:15.119
<v Speaker 6>but that certainly existed.

1738
01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.760
<v Speaker 2>There prior to that, right, right, Yeah, Like how many

1739
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.680
<v Speaker 2>years was that going on before they actually started like

1740
01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>going to look for it?

1741
01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:26.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's aenohing proximity for for certainly asked

1742
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:28.560
<v Speaker 6>that question. And do these do these things have connections?

1743
01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, I don't know, dude. Question seems all fucking

1744
01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:37.399
<v Speaker 2>suss to me. Nobody joined a death cult anybody like

1745
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>hopefully but anytime. Yes, right, they listen to the occult

1746
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>rejects and they know a thing or two. I'll start

1747
01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>a cult.

1748
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:50.119
<v Speaker 3>You can join my cult. Kool Aid? What kind of

1749
01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:52.640
<v Speaker 3>koolaid are you serving? Great drink?

1750
01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great.

1751
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Gotta have that red solo. Yeah.

1752
01:34:57.680 --> 01:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>No, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna up it and I'm

1753
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do kool Aid pickles, You guys will love it.

1754
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had a kool Aid pickle?

1755
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:08.840
<v Speaker 3>No, that could be the worst thing I've ever had,

1756
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:11.079
<v Speaker 3>or it could be the amazing thing.

1757
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:12.199
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. They're right.

1758
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I had it at a restaurant one time. They were like,

1759
01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:15.720
<v Speaker 2>do you want to try kool Aid pickle? I was like,

1760
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it could be sweet and and salty, you know, like

1761
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a pickle, but it's been like fermented in kool aid,

1762
01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>So let's give it a try. Absolutely not. Don't fucking

1763
01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>ever do that, guys that road.

1764
01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:30.880
<v Speaker 3>But the question is what kool aid did they use?

1765
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Because kool Aid, of course there is Is it cherry

1766
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:36.359
<v Speaker 3>or was it rape.

1767
01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:38.199
<v Speaker 7>Pos maybe lemon lime?

1768
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I bet if right now, I'm going to google it.

1769
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I bet it to Hawaiian punch, punch to the kidney.

1770
01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:49.479
<v Speaker 6>I think it was Sonic or one of those restaurants

1771
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:51.119
<v Speaker 6>that did a pickle ice creams. Maybe this is a

1772
01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:53.279
<v Speaker 6>recent pickle fat that you you ran across with the

1773
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:54.319
<v Speaker 6>pickled kool Aid.

1774
01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>What if it was just a big campaign for kool Aid,

1775
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it could have been shut the fuck up.

1776
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:09.439
<v Speaker 3>It was great. It was literally great. Grape is grape

1777
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.840
<v Speaker 3>is solid, you know, there's I'm a fan of gra.

1778
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I don't know about grape of pickle, right, yeah.

1779
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:18.199
<v Speaker 7>It doesn't make pickle.

1780
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, bassholes, you guys, it says right here. I

1781
01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>googled it, so it must be true. They didn't even

1782
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>use kool Aid brand kool Aid. They used flavor Aid.

1783
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew it.

1784
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>That's why it was craps.

1785
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say they didn't even put poison in it,

1786
01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and they just drink this fucking flavor aiight, and it

1787
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.399
<v Speaker 2>just killed them off immediately. We don't know that that's

1788
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>some toxic ship right there. We don't even know what's

1789
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>in that.

1790
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Like they could have they could have used tang.

1791
01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:58.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, but they can't even they can't even get

1792
01:36:58.079 --> 01:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the right stuff.

1793
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Come on, no, this is from Save a Lot. They

1794
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:04.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't even they didn't even ball out on a budget

1795
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and like get named brand. They they went to freaking.

1796
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Something like that, you know, ten cent packets.

1797
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, look at this, Look at this. I'm

1798
01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:20.319
<v Speaker 2>offended by this.

1799
01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I actually loved that marketing.

1800
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>I love that.

1801
01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:26.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh that looks actually pretty cool.

1802
01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>We got to click on the grape one though. There

1803
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.680
<v Speaker 2>you go, that's what killed all the people in Jonestown

1804
01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>right there. Flavor A Henry Lee Lucas did say that

1805
01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>he knew Jim Jones and that Jim Jones was just

1806
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>part of a c I a big mind control thing

1807
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that they It was just another project they were working on.

1808
01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>There was another death cult out of I think it

1809
01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>was Japan. It was called the Doomsday Cult, and they

1810
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:03.199
<v Speaker 2>they took SAR and nerve gas on trains and they

1811
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:07.399
<v Speaker 2>were like trying to like poison people, and they rated

1812
01:38:07.479 --> 01:38:13.279
<v Speaker 2>this compound for the Doomsday Cult. They had military helicopters,

1813
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:17.359
<v Speaker 2>they had mind control devices that they were developing. They

1814
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:22.199
<v Speaker 2>had weapons grade anthrax, andy Bola virus, and they had

1815
01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. And it's like, you have to wonder,

1816
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>where are these fucking cults getting this fucking shit, Because

1817
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like I said to you earlier. Let me, let's

1818
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 2>just say I want to start a cult tomorrow. How

1819
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:36.000
<v Speaker 2>easy is it going to be for me to get

1820
01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:43.119
<v Speaker 2>weapons grade anthrax, any bowla virus, a military helicopter, mine

1821
01:38:43.159 --> 01:38:46.800
<v Speaker 2>control devices, SAAR, and nerve gas. Like okay, yeah, let's

1822
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:49.720
<v Speaker 2>just put it on this fucking Sam's Club list and

1823
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>let me just go right into the store and get it, like,

1824
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:53.319
<v Speaker 2>where are they getting this stuff?

1825
01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:56.119
<v Speaker 7>You guys, If you tell the FBI your trends, they'll

1826
01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:56.880
<v Speaker 7>just give all that to you.

1827
01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:01.279
<v Speaker 3>There you go, starting a transgroup.

1828
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I said Magdalena was was probably secretly trained. That's why

1829
01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:12.399
<v Speaker 2>she had a thing for Selena. She was trying to stick.

1830
01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Her, oh her, Oh my.

1831
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:20.199
<v Speaker 3>If that's that's that's awesome.

1832
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:20.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

1833
01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't know to wrap it up.

1834
01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:27.399
<v Speaker 2>She's a fucking asshole. Though. If this story isn't even conspiratorial,

1835
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I still think she's a fucking asshole. It's really interesting.

1836
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I had never heard it before. It blew my mind. Actually,

1837
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you researched this topic because it's crazy.

1838
01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I don't want to give a shout

1839
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:42.079
<v Speaker 3>out to Blaze. I'll definitely give a shout out to Blaze,

1840
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:45.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, with his with his comic book, and yeah,

1841
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>he's doing a kickstarter for that and it's fantastic, awesome.

1842
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll include a link for that. And uh, I

1843
01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:54.039
<v Speaker 5>think I can say this for all of us here,

1844
01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:56.960
<v Speaker 5>well even Rye. Probably at this point, I do think

1845
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:59.319
<v Speaker 5>there's something questionable about this whole case. You know, this

1846
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:01.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't seem to be much I guess to talk about

1847
01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:05.039
<v Speaker 5>and I don't know just because of other situations in

1848
01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:07.840
<v Speaker 5>the past, they do wonder was there some sort of

1849
01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:11.640
<v Speaker 5>three letter agency involvement or some structure to it a

1850
01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:15.159
<v Speaker 5>little bit more than we knew about. But thank you, yeah,

1851
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.439
<v Speaker 5>but thank you all for coming on. I thought that

1852
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:20.359
<v Speaker 5>was amazing. Everybody had great stuff to add. Ry. That

1853
01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:22.640
<v Speaker 5>was really good. You presented that amazingly.

1854
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

1855
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it. Before we have you plug it real quick, uh, JJ,

1856
01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:30.800
<v Speaker 5>let everybody know where they can find you stuff again.

1857
01:40:32.439 --> 01:40:36.840
<v Speaker 6>JJ, vanceys to operations GCD Nick. Appreciate the invite. Lisa

1858
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:39.680
<v Speaker 6>joy it great, great conversation. Roy, great to meet you,

1859
01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.920
<v Speaker 6>and this is a very intriguing tale. I definitely got

1860
01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:44.600
<v Speaker 6>my wheels turning on a number of these topics. Here

1861
01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:46.520
<v Speaker 6>to look at too, more for sure cool.

1862
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.680
<v Speaker 5>Thank you very much, JJ and Julia real quick. Let

1863
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:52.000
<v Speaker 5>everybody know where they can find your amazing show as well.

1864
01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I am the host of Cosmic Peach podcast.

1865
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.319
<v Speaker 2>It's available wherever you listen to podcasts. And great to

1866
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>meet you. Ry. I love someone who can present a

1867
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:06.399
<v Speaker 2>topic start to finish like you do. It's really entertaining,

1868
01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:09.399
<v Speaker 2>and I it's it's a skill not a lot of

1869
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:13.439
<v Speaker 2>people have actually, and I admire that. But thanks for

1870
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>having me on, Nick, This was a great conversation. I

1871
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:20.199
<v Speaker 2>learned a lot and I'm looking forward to coming on again.

1872
01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>As soon as I saw actual number right, yes, yes

1873
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>as in occult reject.

1874
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.680
<v Speaker 5>Yes, like I said, as soon as I really kind

1875
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:32.960
<v Speaker 5>of started listening to it, I was like, I know

1876
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:35.680
<v Speaker 5>Julie would be into this. It sounds so much like Adulfo,

1877
01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:36.760
<v Speaker 5>like I really thought.

1878
01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was thinking about that a lot.

1879
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.039
<v Speaker 5>And Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. I

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<v Speaker 5>really appreciate it. Yes, is there anything that you want

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<v Speaker 5>to plug?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you everybody, Thank you, Ry. I really really

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01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.720
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the story and like everybody said, contributed definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>totally suspect. And I do agree with Nick that the

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<v Speaker 1>Alphabet Boys are probably somehow somewhere not too far away

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<v Speaker 1>from any of this. But I would like to plug

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<v Speaker 1>our website. It's Occult Research Institute dot org, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of contributors that contribute written pieces. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you are more of a reader and would like

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<v Speaker 1>to consume reading some of this amazing compics, that come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ocult rejects. Please give us a gander

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<v Speaker 1>over there at Occult Research Institute dot org.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And Roy,

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<v Speaker 5>let everybody know they can find your amazing work again.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I just want to say thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>having me on this was This is fantastic and you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are all welcoming, and it's nice to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a similar crowd, you know, of everyone who has the

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<v Speaker 3>same like minded this who understands what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>questions everything. And that's what I say is we have

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<v Speaker 3>to question everything that you know, it's been crazy that

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<v Speaker 3>these last couple of years or five six years, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we are frowned upon and made fun of for researching

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<v Speaker 3>and looking into things ourselves. We're told to leave it

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<v Speaker 3>to the experts, leave it to these people. Don't think

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself, you know, sit down on your ass on

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<v Speaker 3>the TV and watch it and don't do anything. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's fantastic to meet some people who who think the

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<v Speaker 3>way I do. And it's like, let's look into the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff further, let's go deeper. As soon as I'm told

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<v Speaker 3>one thing on TV, you know, it's like Okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>let's start looking the other way and figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>it really is going on. So again, I'm the host

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<v Speaker 3>of Codega's Codex of Curiosities. I drop an episode once

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<v Speaker 3>a week, sometimes twice a week, kind of like you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll drop a bonus episode, but it's usually on Sundays,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can be fine. YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple everywhere else, Facebook, Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>That can hit me up just like you did, Nick

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<v Speaker 3>and contact me reach out. Yes, that's about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely go check out here show like again. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I said before, tons and tons of different types of topics,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and true crime, cult, paranormal, Bigfoot, Jack the Ripper,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, great stuff. Uh yeah, and uh again, thank

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<v Speaker 5>you all for coming on. I really appreciate it. That

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<v Speaker 5>was an awesome chat.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, this is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Really really weird one and you don't hear too many

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<v Speaker 5>people talking about it, so I wanted to cover it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the end of another Recult Rejects And until

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<v Speaker 5>the next one, what did be well? Data No