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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gents, five o'clock on a Friday.
Speaker 2: The weekend has started for many of you. Feels like
Speaker 2: the weekend has started for me. But you know, I
Speaker 2: got another hour of work to do. It's hard work.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: There's a Fox sports radio host who I believe has
Speaker 2: since retired, but he used to used to start each
Speaker 2: hour start his show with slaving over a hot microphone,
Speaker 2: which I always thought sounded so cringe, and as I
Speaker 2: said it, I feel like it was even more cringe
Speaker 2: coming from me. But you know, believe it or not, folks,
Speaker 2: this is work, but it's not bad work. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. And it's even more fun whenever we
Speaker 2: have college football, and ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: It is here.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been here. Week zero is in the
Speaker 2: books last night. You know, the first Thursday is always
Speaker 2: kind of felt like when it really gets started, because
Speaker 2: you know, you usually have some better games and I
Speaker 2: don't know, Week zero's weird, man, Like I'm not anti
Speaker 2: Week zero, Like I'm find that they have it, but
Speaker 2: we all know that it's real, but it just doesn't
Speaker 2: feel real because nobody else is playing. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: if you triple the amount of games that you have
Speaker 2: typically in week zero would be a little bit different.
Speaker 2: But anyways, last night I watched I was going back
Speaker 2: and forth with a lot of games. I mean, I
Speaker 2: watched a good chunk of NC State in Western Carolina,
Speaker 2: because Western Carolina had them on the ropes early on.
Speaker 2: That NC State team did not look like one of
Speaker 2: the better teams in the ACC, and they did end
Speaker 2: up finishing strong and whatnot, But I mean, like, you
Speaker 2: don't want to have that kind of game against an
Speaker 2: FCS opponent. And here's what's crazy say that is those
Speaker 2: words just came out of my mouth, like NC State
Speaker 2: could have just done what a lot of teams do
Speaker 2: here and there when they play those games like just not.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's hard to get up for a
Speaker 2: game like that when you know you could probably you know,
Speaker 2: mail it in and still win by a lot. Now,
Speaker 2: they learned the hard way because they were I mean,
Speaker 2: that game was in doubt in the third quarter until
Speaker 2: they kind of scored that touchdown midway through the third
Speaker 2: and kind of you know, I wouldn't say ran away
Speaker 2: with it, but you know, kind of did. But the
Speaker 2: other games I watched, I didn't. I didn't watch a
Speaker 2: ton of the North Carolina Minnesota game until the second half.
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, just never I had Minnesota
Speaker 2: money line. John and I both did, and I never
Speaker 2: really felt good about it at any point in the game.
Speaker 2: But that fumble whenever Minnesota's driving in the second half
Speaker 2: and they got a fumble that, you know, it was
Speaker 2: just random. I don't even think the guy got hit.
Speaker 2: And then it bounces and there's another receiver that was
Speaker 2: right next to the receiver who fumbled it, and it
Speaker 2: just popped right up right in his hands and he.
Speaker 3: Kept you know what play I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: God, Yes, you're talking like I'm just thinking, okay with
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, like you you got, you've got
Speaker 2: too many good breaks that have already come your way.
Speaker 2: There's no way you're gonna be able to finish and
Speaker 2: win this. But that's just how I'm how I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I was criticizing John earlier for being not positive enough
Speaker 2: about our bets. But when it's actually going on and
Speaker 2: there's a game like I always just assume no matter,
Speaker 2: like something's gonna happen to where I'm not gonna get this.
Speaker 2: But sure enough, they put themselves in a position to
Speaker 2: kick that field goal to win it. What was that
Speaker 2: like forty six yards or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that that was his second miss of the night,
Speaker 4: And yeah, was a big ten kicker of the year last.
Speaker 3: Oh was he?
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that was a toughaon by the way.
Speaker 2: That's that's a tough That's a tough night for a
Speaker 2: guy who's proven to be a good kicker. And then
Speaker 2: in the opener, you got a chance to beat a
Speaker 2: Power five team and your Power four team and you
Speaker 2: just like, I mean.
Speaker 3: You choke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly there were other things that could have put
Speaker 2: them in a better situation where they needed that, But like,
Speaker 2: you got one job to do make kicks and.
Speaker 3: He missed two that you know, one would have been
Speaker 3: the difference.
Speaker 2: It's right, that's right. And then I didn't I do
Speaker 2: I can't watch call Dolrado John. I watched a little
Speaker 2: bit and I kept having to change the channel because
Speaker 2: Mark Jones, who you know is is an announcer for ESPN.
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's good at what he does. I'm
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of him, but like that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he's not good. Everybody's got their own taste when
Speaker 2: it comes to announcers that they prefer. He's just not
Speaker 2: really my cup of tea. But good god, I mean,
Speaker 2: he just I can't say what I want to say.
Speaker 4: But the whole broadcast was kind of a big promo
Speaker 4: for Colorado and coach Prime, was it not?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: And I don't know why they're they had, like why.
Speaker 3: They were talking.
Speaker 4: And this is not not to say that you shouldn't
Speaker 4: mention these things, but they kept mentioning like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: the all the town loves them. You brought in so
Speaker 4: many different like like they have the enrollment and stuff.
Speaker 4: It's like fifty percent up and you selled out tickets
Speaker 4: for the entire season. All that stuff is good. But
Speaker 4: when you make the entire broadcast about that and they
Speaker 4: don't have anything to show for on the field just yet,
Speaker 4: it seems like you're promoting something that doesn't have any
Speaker 4: substance behind it just yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I understand how this works, right,
Speaker 2: Like you could be the TMZ of college football, like
Speaker 2: Colorado is and win four games five games. But if
Speaker 2: you are still generating, you know a lot of viewership,
Speaker 2: and you command a lot of attention, which Deon Sanders does.
Speaker 2: Those that work in broadcasting programming, they're gonna play the hits.
Speaker 2: That's how this works. So if Colorado continues to stay like,
Speaker 2: for example, Kentucky basketball, if Kentucky basketball was a team
Speaker 2: that for four or five years was you know, five
Speaker 2: hundred at best, which would never happen, I don't think.
Speaker 2: But if it did, there's still enough people that care
Speaker 2: about Kentucky basketball to where they would still get primetime games.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Colorado, I mean, they've not been relevant in college football,
Speaker 2: like I mean.
Speaker 3: I think they may have. They have champions they do.
Speaker 2: They do have a national championship, but it's like one
Speaker 2: of the most random championships of all time, and I
Speaker 2: think it's one where there were multiple teams that could
Speaker 2: claim they won a championship. And like, Deon Sanders is
Speaker 2: an interesting character. He's flashy, he's prime elite football player,
Speaker 2: a guy who was good enough to play both professional
Speaker 2: baseball and professional football at the same time. Like he's
Speaker 2: a walking promo. But now he's coaching football, and he
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything that shows he's good at that at
Speaker 2: this level. And yet none of that matters because again,
Speaker 2: if they continue to have this much attention surrounding them,
Speaker 2: he continues to, you know, be the way he is,
Speaker 2: but yet they still have little success. I just think
Speaker 2: this is always going to be how it is, and
Speaker 2: I hate it. I'm such a hater, I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, it almost feels like they're milking it because
Speaker 4: they know it's not going to last much longer.
Speaker 3: That may be part of it, too, Yeah, I mean, because.
Speaker 4: If they if they suck, what if they take a
Speaker 4: step back, you think he gets fired. I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: An they're selling tickets, maybe it doesn't matter. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, if you take a step backward, there's
Speaker 4: no way you sell out as many games next year
Speaker 4: before the season even starts.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know a single Colorado fan. I'm
Speaker 2: gona assume you don't either, right, correct, So it's hard
Speaker 2: to like check the pulse of their fan base in
Speaker 2: any way. But I did see last night on the
Speaker 2: message boards. Well I wasn't on the message boards, but
Speaker 2: what is it message board genius that Twitter accounts. That's great,
Speaker 2: they'll go out in real because people I guess people
Speaker 2: go to the message boards like during games, and like
Speaker 2: that's how they do. Like I guess their game threads
Speaker 2: where everybody's communicating with each other within the message board
Speaker 2: while the game's going on, and you know, they they
Speaker 2: were showing I saw some posts during the game in
Speaker 2: after to where their fans were critical of Dion and
Speaker 2: the staff, like because they were I mean, they could
Speaker 2: have lost that game. It came under the last play,
Speaker 2: and yes, that's probably a game they would have lost
Speaker 2: last year, Like I saw somebody say that. But when
Speaker 2: you carry yourself the way that he does, and he
Speaker 2: has such an arrogance about himself as a coach to
Speaker 2: where he's deciding who can and can't ask questions at
Speaker 2: his press conferences, he's live about stuff that you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to lie about. Well, I can't prove that
Speaker 2: he's lying about it, but I don't believe him. But
Speaker 2: like to do all that and then be, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe six and six this year, like I just anybody
Speaker 2: else who carries themselves that way and doesn't succeed would
Speaker 2: be ridiculed in a major way. I just don't think
Speaker 2: that's ever happening with Deon Sanders. It will by like random,
Speaker 2: because again I could feel it last night, man, I
Speaker 2: could feel it as we were watching, and I had
Speaker 2: to change. I just I couldn't hear Mark what's his name,
Speaker 2: Mark Jones gargled Deon Sanders privates anymore. I couldn't hear,
Speaker 2: I couldn't listen to it. It's just, you know, over nothing.
Speaker 2: So I was going back and forth. But if if
Speaker 2: you had your phone out and you were on Twitter,
Speaker 2: which I know a lot of you people aren't. In God,
Speaker 2: your life's probably a lot better than ours because there's
Speaker 2: a toxic place to be. But everybody was wanting to
Speaker 2: see Dion Sanders lose to North Dakota States in his
Speaker 2: first game of year, number two, And at that point,
Speaker 2: you know, the app itself might have melted to the
Speaker 2: you know, and no longer existed because it would have
Speaker 2: been insane. But I don't know, man, And he's got
Speaker 2: his another thing. He's got really special players. His son's
Speaker 2: a great quarterback. I mean, Hunter is the best player
Speaker 2: in college football according to a lot of people. So like,
Speaker 2: why are you needing to sweat out against North Dakota State,
Speaker 2: and yes, I know North Kota State is good, but
Speaker 2: if you're prime and you're talking the way you're talking
Speaker 2: about being in a playoff this year, I don't care
Speaker 2: where they are as far as being an FCS team.
Speaker 2: They could have won ten straight national championships. As an
Speaker 2: FCS team, you shouldn't be in that situation where it's
Speaker 2: that close.
Speaker 3: And like there's no universe where Georgia struggles in.
Speaker 2: This no well, and like somebody's at Like somebody asked
Speaker 2: me earlier when we were talking Dean Sanders this week
Speaker 2: on the text line, and I never answered it, but
Speaker 2: it was if they're good and like they back up
Speaker 2: the stuff like what's going to be your stance, well,
Speaker 2: then at that point they will have earned it, and
Speaker 2: let's be I mean, not that anybody would remember, or
Speaker 2: maybe some people do. Last year, I wasn't like on
Speaker 2: the Dion Sanders hype train, but when they came out
Speaker 2: and dominated TCU, remember that, and we didn't know TCU stunk,
Speaker 2: but they dominated him. Then they then they took it
Speaker 2: to Nebraska and there was somebody else they beat pretty bad.
Speaker 3: The first two or three weeks.
Speaker 2: I think I might have been three weeks they were
Speaker 2: delivering great viewership because you know, people wanted to see
Speaker 2: what can Deon Sanders do now that he's in the
Speaker 2: Power five. And they were winning and it looked like
Speaker 2: they were legit, and I was a believer, not to
Speaker 2: say that he was going to go on and win
Speaker 2: the national championship, but like he kept acting the same
Speaker 2: whenever they started losing, and like there's no there's there's
Speaker 2: no humility in any way because they could be three
Speaker 2: and nine this year and he will still have no
Speaker 2: humility and carry himself as if he's accomplished something special
Speaker 2: and that people need to bow down to him and
Speaker 2: treat him with a level of respect that you don't
Speaker 2: even treat the best coaches in the game.
Speaker 3: Like I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like an old curmudgeon, get off my lawn
Speaker 2: guy when it comes to this stuff. And maybe this
Speaker 2: is like the turning point for me where I am
Speaker 2: becoming the traditionalist that you know doesn't like arrogant people
Speaker 2: that are over the top, Like it's one thing to
Speaker 2: do all that and back it up as a coach.
Speaker 2: He's never done that. Now again, he's only coached thirteen
Speaker 2: games at this level. And I know what he did
Speaker 2: at Jackson State was cool, but it's not the same
Speaker 2: at all. That's a rare situation where that guy, a
Speaker 2: larger than life figure within sports, who would have the
Speaker 2: ability to recruit because he's primed but anything, the guy
Speaker 2: is a great salesman. So like him going and putting
Speaker 2: together a freakishly good team for the FCS level and
Speaker 2: winning at Jackson State, that's impressive. Credit to him, But
Speaker 2: that's not like I mean, that isn't that surprising And
Speaker 2: it really wouldn't have been that surprising if he got
Speaker 2: to Colorado and you know, they won six games last
Speaker 2: year and this year they won eight. But like again,
Speaker 2: he's carrying himself in a way that I just, you know,
Speaker 2: I can't fathom. And then again, I can't relate to
Speaker 2: him because he's Dean Sanders and I'm not, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, So like the transition for him to
Speaker 2: go from this larger than life I'm an elite, all
Speaker 2: time great athlete, one of the few people on planet
Speaker 2: Earth they can say they were that successful to be good,
Speaker 2: if not great, in both sports. I don't know enough
Speaker 2: about his baseball career, but I know he wasn't just
Speaker 2: some guy that ended up on the team like Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan did at the Triple A. Prime was playing for
Speaker 2: the Braves. So like he has justification to have that
Speaker 2: inflated sense of worth as an athlete. He's not an athlete,
Speaker 2: he's not playing, he's coaching, and it's it's not like
Speaker 2: he should have a different PERSONA don't be a B
Speaker 2: be you. But also I guess what it comes down
Speaker 2: to is that there's a level of humility that he's
Speaker 2: never had to deal with as an athlete that you
Speaker 2: know now that he's coaching. It's clear it's not gonna
Speaker 2: there's not a compatibility there, right, Like he doesn't know
Speaker 2: how to be humble. Even if he loses every game
Speaker 2: he coaches, he still knows who he is as a
Speaker 2: player and what he's accomplished to where he's just gonna
Speaker 2: be he's gonna be arrogant about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I hate that I get this worked up about it,
Speaker 2: but here we are, at least I'm honest about it.
Speaker 2: You're not as bad as me, but I get the
Speaker 2: sense that you you are, like you wanted him to
Speaker 2: lose last night, right, Yeah, And it's I think what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: I think why it bothers us is that it just
Speaker 4: seems like there's so much it's like a lack of
Speaker 4: self awareness, and I think it kind of reminds us
Speaker 4: of what we've really what you've dealt with and louisll
Speaker 4: fans have dealt with Kenny Payne over the last couple
Speaker 4: of years because and obviously the success level is a
Speaker 4: little bit different. But when you have somebody who refuses
Speaker 4: to be humble and you can make that comparison with Louisville,
Speaker 4: maybe that's why you it bothers you so much. And
Speaker 4: it does bother me too for that matter.
Speaker 2: And one thing that does irritate me is that he's
Speaker 2: at a point where he could say anything and nobody
Speaker 2: would call him on it, and that's just not what
Speaker 2: coaches can typically do with the platform like this is
Speaker 2: from last night's game.
Speaker 3: Twenty five yard twenty five yard line.
Speaker 5: DURA has been a swirl of noise and activity around
Speaker 5: this Colorado program for.
Speaker 6: The last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Let's listen to it and coach Prime's works. Eric Kristensen
Speaker 3: with CBS Sports Colorado see.
Speaker 1: Tyler, I'm not doing none with CBA's next question with you.
Speaker 1: It's above that you got none to do with you.
Speaker 1: I got love for you, I appreciate respect you, and
Speaker 1: got none to do with you.
Speaker 2: They know what they did.
Speaker 3: Coach John Ye of the Denver Post.
Speaker 1: You don't let us man, why do you do this
Speaker 1: to yourself?
Speaker 3: Come on?
Speaker 5: Like it would be hard for me to really engage
Speaker 5: in someone I don't like or something I don't like.
Speaker 3: I'm just asking why and why.
Speaker 6: Jimmy Horn picking up the first down on that opening play,
Speaker 6: first down in ten and Coach Prime in meeting with
Speaker 6: him yesterday, he felt that you see, you know at
Speaker 6: four and eighth, three and nine news conference, this is
Speaker 6: one of the parts from the Denver Post story.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't that. Coach Prime told us he felt
Speaker 5: that a reporter in question questioned and attacked his faith
Speaker 5: and subsequently went over the line and thus his actions
Speaker 5: as a result.
Speaker 3: That's what he told.
Speaker 2: Us, So I thought Mark Jones and ESPN bringing that
Speaker 2: to the broadcast a private conversation with Dion Sanders. If
Speaker 2: you're claiming that this reporter from the Denver Post, Sean Keeler,
Speaker 2: if you're reporting that the reason you don't want him around,
Speaker 2: asking questions is because you feel as if he's personally
Speaker 2: attacked your faith. Shouldn't you have to back that up?
Speaker 2: Because people who work for the Denver Post are were
Speaker 2: outraged last night, including colleagues of that writer Sean Keeler,
Speaker 2: who says that that never happened and it's not worth
Speaker 2: repeating in a national broadcast, which I like, again, like,
Speaker 2: you can't just say things without having any basis. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess you can, but like your university, your employers
Speaker 2: shouldn't shouldn't allow that to happen, Like it reminds me
Speaker 2: of Jim McIlwain. Jim mcawaine was a pretty good coach
Speaker 2: at Florida. They hit a rough stretch during I believe
Speaker 2: his third season, and if you remember, there was that
Speaker 2: naked guy on a shark on a boat and everybody
Speaker 2: thought it looked like him.
Speaker 3: You don't know what I'm talking about. I don't. I'm
Speaker 3: not recalling him. Maybe I have a son and I don't
Speaker 3: know that. I want to.
Speaker 2: Google Jim Mackailwayne boat and you'll see the picture and
Speaker 2: if you tell me you've never seen that before, that
Speaker 2: will surprise me. But then again, I guess it was
Speaker 2: like six years ago, now that I'll think about it.
Speaker 2: But anyways, he was dealing with media, dealing with fans upset,
Speaker 2: and in a press conference he made the insinuation. I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, he did more than just insinuate. He said
Speaker 2: that his family's receiving death threats because of the struggling
Speaker 2: Florida program. Well, you know that's different than somebody attacking
Speaker 2: your faith. But you've accused a writer for the Denver
Speaker 2: Post of something that like, they should have the ability
Speaker 2: to defend themselves. And now that it's out there, according
Speaker 2: to Mark Jones, that Dion says, that's why this guy
Speaker 2: should be able to go to Deon Sanders' Deon Sanders
Speaker 2: employer and say that didn't happen. I would love to
Speaker 2: see proof, because now I know why you're claiming. I
Speaker 2: can't ask questions. But anyways, back to Macawayne, when he
Speaker 2: said that like that, I don't think anybody at that
Speaker 2: time felt that that was like a lie.
Speaker 3: By the way, I've never seen that picture. Are you
Speaker 3: mad that you looked at it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Thankfully it was censored. You know that's not him, but
Speaker 3: it looks exactly like him.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and like it got shared and he he
Speaker 2: had to address it at a press conference like.
Speaker 3: It ain't me, it ain't me, which is very awkward.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Florida the university looked into his allegation, his
Speaker 2: allegations that his family had received death threats, because you
Speaker 2: can't just say that, So they looked into it and
Speaker 2: determined he made it up, and he got fired, like
Speaker 2: you know, like not to say that that's the same
Speaker 2: exact thing here, but like Deon Sanders can block the
Speaker 2: entire Denver media from coming and he could just make
Speaker 2: up something and nobody would actually call him on it
Speaker 2: because he thinks he can do things that nobody else
Speaker 2: can because he's Deon Sanders, and look, he clearly can.
Speaker 2: Colorado's letting him do it. I mean, I know how
Speaker 2: the SID business works, and I know that whoever is
Speaker 2: in charge of being the sports information director probably you know,
Speaker 2: lost a lot of sleep knowing they were about to
Speaker 2: put out the release stating that the Denver Posts beat
Speaker 2: writer is not allowed to ask questions because that's like
Speaker 2: who does that? That's I mean, there are coaches who've
Speaker 2: actually handled like deal. Sanders doesn't get enough criticism for
Speaker 2: being allowsy coach and yet he's blocking somebody from asking
Speaker 2: a question who may in fact have the stones to
Speaker 2: call him on some things. So again to answer the question,
Speaker 2: like if he is successful this year, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to turn into a Colorado fan, know, but like at
Speaker 2: that point, like he should be able to be like
Speaker 2: he would have reason to be braggedosious, and he did
Speaker 2: last year at the beginning of the season, and then
Speaker 2: we learned it like that was really nonsense. And then
Speaker 2: things that really just made it clear to me what
Speaker 2: this whole thing is. Like he had a good offense,
Speaker 2: but he'd you know, daddy ball. He didn't like how
Speaker 2: his son had a you know, a bad game, so
Speaker 2: he took the play calling duties away from the OC,
Speaker 2: who was overqualified to be his OC anyway. Like just
Speaker 2: little things like that. But last night the prime effect.
Speaker 2: They won four games last year, But yet they're talking
Speaker 2: about a prime effect. And this stuff does matter when
Speaker 2: it comes to like, you know, like it matters. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say this is nothing. But their program
Speaker 2: now has two point two point twenty six million followers
Speaker 2: on social media, and they only had two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty eight thousand the year before that. Merchandise sales has
Speaker 2: increased by over five hundred percent. University applications is up
Speaker 2: fifty one percent among Black and African American students. Ten
Speaker 2: plus million has been generated from home game direct economic
Speaker 2: for home like basically the economic impact into the Boulder
Speaker 2: community has been substantial because of the amount of money
Speaker 2: that's coming in for these home games. People are showing
Speaker 2: up and they're selling out games. Which again that stuff
Speaker 2: is good and it matters, but at what point does
Speaker 2: all that stuff drop off when they don't win? Like
Speaker 2: how long can you keep this prime effect growing if
Speaker 2: they don't win? And again, he's only in his second season.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not like he's been there ten years,
Speaker 2: but you know, Dion, there's a little bit of Kenny
Speaker 2: pain there. And what I mean by that is for
Speaker 2: those who who really wanted Kenny Payne to like, you know.
Speaker 3: They wanted it to work out.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to work out initially and then like it
Speaker 2: was quite clear to me that it was there was
Speaker 2: no scenario with that it ever happened. Remember, people would say,
Speaker 2: give him time, he'll figure it out. He's still learning,
Speaker 2: he's a first time head coach. Like those are all
Speaker 2: like legitimate things to say, in most situations like that, however,
Speaker 2: how can he adjust? How can he figure it out
Speaker 2: and fix things when he doesn't think anything's wrong on
Speaker 2: his end? It was never his fault, that's dion. They
Speaker 2: could go four and eight this year and he will
Speaker 2: still be parading around as if like he's a great
Speaker 2: coach and like you know, it's everybody else's fault, like
Speaker 2: and I just if you're Colorado, Like you don't want that,
Speaker 2: do you, Because at some point it becomes a joke
Speaker 2: that like, you've got this guy who's brought you so
Speaker 2: much attention, but like, is he gonna win?
Speaker 3: All right? Quick break will come back? Keep this thing
Speaker 3: rolling along.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about some of our picks for
Speaker 2: tomorrow's loaded slate of college football. I got one game
Speaker 2: tonight that I'm interested, and there might be a second one.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with that TCU Standford game.
Speaker 3: John.
Speaker 2: Usually that means stay away, But when you got a
Speaker 2: small card like tonight, small board, I should say those
Speaker 2: are two Power Conference teams playing each other. I got
Speaker 2: an itch to get something going there.
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Speaker 2: can announce it. We've got our postgame show with our
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Speaker 2: I've got again pre and postgame duties this year. So
Speaker 2: just what you guys wanted, more Nick coffee, right and
Speaker 2: again I hope you can sense the sarcasm when I
Speaker 2: say that. So again eleven o'clock tomorrow and then kick
Speaker 2: off at noon and then as soon as it ends,
Speaker 2: right back here for the post game. So looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. Not really sure to expect as far as reaction,
Speaker 2: because you know, it should be a blowout, which I
Speaker 2: would hope that all the new players that we haven't
Speaker 2: actually seen play in a Louisville uniform, if they go
Speaker 2: out there and they make big plays, I would imagine
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of folks that are calling in
Speaker 2: kind of expressing the excitement about seeing this guy or
Speaker 2: that guy, rather it be Tyler Shuck or ja Cory Brooks,
Speaker 2: the transfer from Alabama, receiver Thorick Griffin, the defensive lineman
Speaker 2: from Harvard.
Speaker 3: Who's got a lot of buzz.
Speaker 2: So that really is what stands out to me more
Speaker 2: than anything when it comes to the excitement of just
Speaker 2: getting the season started outside of you know that alone,
Speaker 2: knowing we're here and it's back a lot of the
Speaker 2: new players, That's.
Speaker 3: What I'm eager to see.
Speaker 2: And I'm aware that if they ball out against Austin
Speaker 2: p it doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: do that when the competition gets tougher, but hey, all
Speaker 2: you can do is play is on your schedule, and
Speaker 2: tomorrow it is the Austin p governors that are going
Speaker 2: to be in town. To get a beating, and hopefully
Speaker 2: that's exactly what Louisville gives them.
Speaker 3: And when I.
Speaker 2: See other scores out there, seventy to nothing, that's what
Speaker 2: happened last night Arkansas and Arkansas Pine Bluff. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying louis has got to go win seventy
Speaker 2: to nothing, but I've made it quite clear this week
Speaker 2: when it comes to the money that is being paid
Speaker 2: to these schools, don't feel bad if you beat them
Speaker 2: one hundred to nothing. I mean, seriously, if you could
Speaker 2: do that, why not. It'll be a national story that
Speaker 2: you scored one hundred points and they can't claim to
Speaker 2: be victims.
Speaker 3: They came and.
Speaker 2: Got a fat check. By the way, how about Bobby
Speaker 2: p calling the plays last night for Arkansas and we'll
Speaker 2: see what he does when they play, you know, real team.
Speaker 2: But whenever he got the job as the OC at Arkansas,
Speaker 2: it was the first thing I thought of, he's gonna
Speaker 2: be their head coach when they fire Sam Pittman mid season.
Speaker 2: But then again, if they're having success, they wouldn't fire
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman because you know things are going well. So
Speaker 2: the scenario where that happens is their offense looks good,
Speaker 2: but they're inept in other areas and they're still losing,
Speaker 2: and the blame falls on Pittman. Bobby is Bobby. I
Speaker 2: mean he went from being the most hated man in
Speaker 2: Fayetteville to now being welcomed back with open arms because
Speaker 2: over a decade later, a lot of things have changed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he you know, lied about a lot of stuff, had
Speaker 2: an affair with a volleyball player, allegedly wrecked his motorcycles.
Speaker 2: Some people still think he just got the hell beat
Speaker 2: out of him by that volleyball player's boyfriend. I mean,
Speaker 2: we'll never know what happened, but they have not had
Speaker 2: any level of success that is close to what Bobby betray,
Speaker 2: you know how buten he was the head coach, and Bobby,
Speaker 2: I think his best days as a coach are along
Speaker 2: behind him.
Speaker 3: I mean at Louisville.
Speaker 2: You know, he had a good run there, and I
Speaker 2: still think I don't think you forget how to be
Speaker 2: a good coach.
Speaker 3: But Bobby, you.
Speaker 2: Know, once he left Louisville ended up at Missouri State,
Speaker 2: he wasn't even that good. And Bobby's not exactly somebody
Speaker 2: you want to bring into your athletic department, not to
Speaker 2: say he's the worst human in the world, but like
Speaker 2: he ain't easy to work with or work for, which
Speaker 2: honestly one of the factors and why he started to
Speaker 2: fall quickly after Lamar, and I guess more than anything,
Speaker 2: it was, you know, I mean, even when Lamar was
Speaker 2: here and you won eight games in Lamar's last year,
Speaker 2: it still felt underwhelming. But Bobby couldn't hire a staff.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't mind hiring family members because you know,
Speaker 2: it's easy. They're probably not gonna tell you no. You
Speaker 2: can boss him around more than you can probably anybody.
Speaker 2: But he also nobody would have gonna work. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: work for him. I mean when they went out and
Speaker 2: got Brian Van Gorder to play to take over the
Speaker 2: defense and paid him what they paid him, that was
Speaker 2: quite literally because they couldn't get anybody else. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if Bobby ever as a head coach again
Speaker 2: at that level, but like if they start, you know,
Speaker 2: let me pull up their schedule because now I'm curious
Speaker 2: and and I have no clue what would happened. But
Speaker 2: I kind of want him. I kind of want that
Speaker 2: kind of chaos to happen to where they get rid
Speaker 2: of they get rid of Sam Pittman just because they're
Speaker 2: they're struggling mid year. And by the way, they were
Speaker 2: already close to getting rid of them anyway. Right, So like,
Speaker 2: I feel like this year, if let's see who's our
Speaker 2: next games against. They got Oklahoma State next week and
Speaker 2: that'll be a big game for them. Maybe they end
Speaker 2: up getting you know, hammered. But if they beat the
Speaker 2: teams they're supposed to be, like UAB on September fourteenth,
Speaker 2: you know, let's say they end up beating Auburn, who's
Speaker 2: not expected to be great this year. I mean, they
Speaker 2: could beat Oklahoma State. I mean, crazy things have happened.
Speaker 2: You know, they do have a really tough schedule, which
Speaker 2: makes it i mean challenging. But like if their offense
Speaker 2: doesn't look like it's a problem and they still can score,
Speaker 2: but you know, things just aren't they're not winning, they
Speaker 2: may just boot Pittman because they feel like they've seen
Speaker 2: enough and just decide, Okay, we got seven games left.
Speaker 2: Let's see what Bobby Buttrino can do. And maybe he's
Speaker 2: not like the future. But then again, you got to
Speaker 2: keep in mind Arkansas the most success they ever had
Speaker 2: in football, at least in my lifetime was when Bobby
Speaker 2: was their guy. Now it was a long time ago
Speaker 2: and things have changed. But I don't know, seventy points
Speaker 2: last night for one Bobby Buttrino in the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Speaker 2: All right, some other notable takeaways from last night at
Speaker 2: least you know some things that stood out to me
Speaker 2: when it comes to our Thursday night football action. I
Speaker 2: think we had our first bad beat when it comes
Speaker 2: to sports wagering, Like where if you were on the
Speaker 2: wrong side of what happened in this Rutgers game, you
Speaker 2: can say bad beat and not just you know you
Speaker 2: lost a bet that you nearly won.
Speaker 3: Know, this is a bad beat.
Speaker 2: So it was Rutgers minus thirty eight and the total
Speaker 2: was fifty one and a half. So when I watch this,
Speaker 2: I get a little like, this is the last touchdown
Speaker 2: of the game.
Speaker 1: Now the Scarlet kites more than three hundred yards on
Speaker 1: the ground.
Speaker 3: Raymond burst it through the hole, not wanting to go
Speaker 3: to sa He doesn't.
Speaker 4: Raven's first tier touchdown bus triple zero is on the.
Speaker 2: Clock and the so he scored that touchdown to put
Speaker 2: them it was thirty eight to seven. He scored the touchdown.
Speaker 2: So then they of course, you know, as the clock
Speaker 2: hit zero, they they covered, right, they were winning by
Speaker 2: more than thirty eight. Well, because the clock hit zero,
Speaker 2: they didn't kick the extra point. So the total of
Speaker 2: fifty one and a half you didn't get because of
Speaker 2: that half point. I mean, like, that's that sucks. That's
Speaker 2: I mean, that's terrible, right, Like you could have like
Speaker 2: if you parlayed same game there and you did I'm
Speaker 2: taking Rutgers minus thirty eight and I'm taking the over,
Speaker 2: and you know, you put a sizeable amount of money
Speaker 2: on there. Let's say you put a fifty spot on
Speaker 2: there and that's how you lost. That's the kind of
Speaker 2: stuff that like that kind of makes you realize, like
Speaker 2: I'm never doing this again. I mean, you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: like that, because hey, it happens and it's all just
Speaker 2: for fun.
Speaker 3: But like that would suck.
Speaker 2: But you could also look at it, like put it
Speaker 2: this way, going back to John. John picked four winners
Speaker 2: in week zero, but he just didn't wager.
Speaker 3: That sucks.
Speaker 2: That's a punch to the gut. But like you can
Speaker 2: also move forward knowing like no matter what happens the
Speaker 2: rest of the way, you'll never have a worse week
Speaker 2: in wagering than Week zero. You didn't lose any money,
Speaker 2: but man, you could have won, right it Like it's
Speaker 2: in the past. Now we're moving forward. We're believing in
Speaker 2: the power of positivity. Another thing that stood out to
Speaker 2: me watching that guy score a meaningless touchdown late that
Speaker 2: he could have easily just laid down, but he kept fighting.
Speaker 3: You won.
Speaker 2: Like if you just did that bed alone where you
Speaker 2: did Rutger's minus thirty eight and you were sweating that
Speaker 2: at the end, knowing they're gonna hand it off, they're
Speaker 2: on the eight yard line, they might just take a knee,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But this guy who'd never scored
Speaker 2: a touchdown before, he wants to get one right. He
Speaker 2: wants his first touchdown in this blowout victory. So if
Speaker 2: you end up cashing big there just because you did
Speaker 2: a straight bet of Ruggers minus thirty eight and you
Speaker 2: put a lot of money on it and it was
Speaker 2: a big winner for you, that's great. You're celebrating. But
Speaker 2: the way my mind is wired, I would instantly think
Speaker 2: like what am I doing? I was so lucky, Like
Speaker 2: it could have easily just taken a knee like it's
Speaker 2: complete luck. And sometimes that scares me when it comes
Speaker 2: to betting, because I'm like, what am I doing? Like
Speaker 2: it's all luck? But also it reminds me it's just
Speaker 2: for fun. And you know, that's why I don't put
Speaker 2: big money down, because even if I feel super confident
Speaker 2: about a bet, like, you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: And why we were able to be a little extra
Speaker 4: invested in Minnesota North Carolina last night and we got
Speaker 4: to sweat it out watching Dragon miss that.
Speaker 2: Kick at the very end, and again the end result
Speaker 2: was bad. I had twitter out and I thought of you,
Speaker 2: and I saw that you tweeted something like damn Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and I felt because we were both sad together and
Speaker 2: we both are said, however, would you agree though, that
Speaker 2: just being in the action there, that's fun? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: because that's and I don't say this to be you know,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be funny. But like I'm being sincere when
Speaker 2: I say this, I've really enjoyed seeing you get acclimated
Speaker 2: to betting on sports because it was brand new to
Speaker 2: you last year, right like, and it became legal here
Speaker 2: and obviously now you got your own sports book that
Speaker 2: you're working with, which is awesome for you, but you
Speaker 2: are you know, it's it's played out exactly how I
Speaker 2: would have wanted it to where you're doing it for entertainment.
Speaker 2: It's nice to win some money here and there, but
Speaker 2: like I think some people just think, like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting into that because I'll blow a bunch of money.
Speaker 2: Like no, you bet small and you you know, it's entertainment.
Speaker 2: And last I checked, regardless of your means, you try
Speaker 2: to find a budget to where you can, you know,
Speaker 2: have entertainment rather than.
Speaker 3: Say this going to the movies or something like that.
Speaker 3: I hate that. I was. I had no confidence he
Speaker 3: was going to make that kick last night.
Speaker 2: So did I. Man, that's and that's and that's a
Speaker 2: bad feeling, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It is a bad feeling you're just sitting there watching
Speaker 4: like you just have because it's the same feeling you
Speaker 4: Proba probably have it.
Speaker 3: There was no chance he was gonna make it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even though he was the big ten kicker of
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 3: There was just a bad vibe around him for whatever.
Speaker 2: And not to say that like I predict a bit,
Speaker 2: like I thought he was gonna miss it. And the
Speaker 2: way it missed was like exactly what I envisioned, like
Speaker 2: not a shank, but just like you know, not precise,
Speaker 2: and you know.
Speaker 3: Like that happens. That sucks.
Speaker 2: But like losing a bet because of a miskick is
Speaker 2: not necessarily qualifiing as a as a bad beat. And
Speaker 2: by the way, neither of us have called it a
Speaker 2: bad beat. The bad beat is the ruggers right there,
Speaker 2: if you think about it. But yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 2: I thought when I really got into betting on college
Speaker 2: basketball and I was having some success, I worried a
Speaker 2: little bit about trying to bet on things that I
Speaker 2: don't really care about, just because it's something to bet on.
Speaker 2: And I'm not kidding you. Other than the occasional NBA bet,
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't open up I didn't open up
Speaker 2: the apps much at all from the end of college
Speaker 2: basketball to now, which you know, it's been boring because
Speaker 2: I do like betting, but like I know what I
Speaker 2: you know, I know what I enjoy betting on. It's
Speaker 2: college basketball, college football, NFL and then occasionally the NBA.
Speaker 2: And if it's not that, you know, I don't need
Speaker 2: to do it. I can entertain myself different ways there's
Speaker 2: unfortunately people when it comes to gambling that that they
Speaker 2: need something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they there's people during COVID they were betting on
Speaker 4: marble races and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, as long as you're doing responsibly, I
Speaker 2: guess not yourself out. But like you know, I know
Speaker 2: my personality. If I got to where I was betting
Speaker 2: on things like that, I would know that I need
Speaker 2: to find a new hobby. All right, quick break, we'll
Speaker 2: come back and wrap this thing up. On the other side,
Speaker 2: it is coffee and Company on a Friday here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: Thing I did not realize in the Kentucky matchup tomorrow,
Speaker 2: they've got Southern Miss. I did not realize that Tate Routomaker,
Speaker 2: the former Florida State quarterback, is now the starting quarterback
Speaker 2: at Southern Miss. I don't think that's going to make
Speaker 2: them a super dangerous opponent for Kentucky. But you know,
Speaker 2: with the portal, man, you're gonna see guys throughout this
Speaker 2: college football season playing in places and you're gonna remember, Oh,
Speaker 2: forgot about that guy who had no clue transferred. So anyways,
Speaker 2: tonight's action, Uh, you got any thoughts and if you don't.
Speaker 2: It's fine, but I'm just curious. Do you have any
Speaker 2: I know we're going against each other. You're gonna take
Speaker 2: Michigan State to cover. I'm gonna take FAU to cover
Speaker 2: in that game. But Stanford TCU? Any any thoughts because
Speaker 2: it's I have nothing, but I want to bet on it,
Speaker 2: but I know I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 4: John, I don't know a whole lot about either team.
Speaker 4: If I were guessing, I feel like TCU is known
Speaker 4: for their offense. I don't think they've made a coaching
Speaker 4: change in the most recent years. I would go with
Speaker 4: maybe t what's the what's the spread here?
Speaker 3: In that one?
Speaker 2: I would Yeah, if I'm gonna touch it, I would,
Speaker 2: I would touch.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: I would fade Stanford because they just sucked. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's TCU minus eight and a half, which is a
Speaker 2: sizeable number. But Stanford, man, they suck. They lost to
Speaker 2: like two SUSA.
Speaker 3: And a half. I'm not taking it, but that's what
Speaker 3: I would take.
Speaker 2: And then tomorrow we're all in on on Georgia covering. Right,
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on this West Virginia Penn State,
Speaker 2: it's probably stay away from me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm staying away from it too. But West Virginia
Speaker 4: they've got momentum under Dan Neil Brown, and.
Speaker 3: They got the McAfee momentum too.
Speaker 4: Man, they've been horned up. They've been tailgating since August first,
Speaker 4: apparently in the stadium.
Speaker 2: Did you see McAfee's going to give a million dollars
Speaker 2: to the collective down there, he announced on the show today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that that'll get them fired up.
Speaker 2: I love Virginia Tech MNUS thirteen and a half against
Speaker 2: vander But we talked about that one earlier in the
Speaker 2: week with Brian.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that line.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is that is someone just
Speaker 2: assuming because they're in the SEC, they'll be more competitive.
Speaker 2: Bandy sucks in Virginia Tech. I don't think that they're
Speaker 2: gonna win the ACC. But like I think this is
Speaker 2: this is just an SEC respect line for Bandy and
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech is gonna be the home team in Nashville
Speaker 2: tomorrow and.
Speaker 3: Take him down.
Speaker 2: And then as far as the other games, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm gonna get in on it with the
Speaker 2: Florida of Miami, but I me.
Speaker 4: The Hoosiers by the way, and the we're not the Hoosiers,
Speaker 4: but give me the over and Hoosiers FIU, which is
Speaker 4: fifty one and a half of home.
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking Indiana minus twenty two. Well you don't
Speaker 2: have to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: John Signetty's getting it started with a beat down. I'm
Speaker 2: ready sigged up. All right, We're back at it tomorrow
Speaker 2: at eleven am.
Speaker 3: So join us.
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