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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gents, five o'clock on a Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>The weekend has started for many of you. Feels like

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend has started for me. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>got another hour of work to do. It's hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a Fox sports radio host who I believe has

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<v Speaker 2>since retired, but he used to used to start each

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<v Speaker 2>hour start his show with slaving over a hot microphone,

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<v Speaker 2>which I always thought sounded so cringe, and as I

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<v Speaker 2>said it, I feel like it was even more cringe

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<v Speaker 2>coming from me. But you know, believe it or not, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>this is work, but it's not bad work. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. And it's even more fun whenever we

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<v Speaker 2>have college football, and ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>It is here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been here. Week zero is in the

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<v Speaker 2>books last night. You know, the first Thursday is always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of felt like when it really gets started, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you usually have some better games and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Week zero's weird, man, Like I'm not anti

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<v Speaker 2>Week zero, Like I'm find that they have it, but

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that it's real, but it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel real because nobody else is playing. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you triple the amount of games that you have

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<v Speaker 2>typically in week zero would be a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, last night I watched I was going back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth with a lot of games. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>watched a good chunk of NC State in Western Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>because Western Carolina had them on the ropes early on.

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<v Speaker 2>That NC State team did not look like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the better teams in the ACC, and they did end

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<v Speaker 2>up finishing strong and whatnot, But I mean, like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to have that kind of game against an

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<v Speaker 2>FCS opponent. And here's what's crazy say that is those

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<v Speaker 2>words just came out of my mouth, like NC State

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<v Speaker 2>could have just done what a lot of teams do

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<v Speaker 2>here and there when they play those games like just not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's hard to get up for a

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<v Speaker 2>game like that when you know you could probably you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mail it in and still win by a lot. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they learned the hard way because they were I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that game was in doubt in the third quarter until

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of scored that touchdown midway through the third

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of you know, I wouldn't say ran away

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but you know, kind of did. But the

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<v Speaker 2>other games I watched, I didn't. I didn't watch a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of the North Carolina Minnesota game until the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, you know, just never I had Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>money line. John and I both did, and I never

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<v Speaker 2>really felt good about it at any point in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But that fumble whenever Minnesota's driving in the second half

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<v Speaker 2>and they got a fumble that, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just random. I don't even think the guy got hit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it bounces and there's another receiver that was

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<v Speaker 2>right next to the receiver who fumbled it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just popped right up right in his hands and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Kept you know what play I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Yes, you're talking like I'm just thinking, okay with

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, like you you got, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>too many good breaks that have already come your way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way you're gonna be able to finish and

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<v Speaker 2>win this. But that's just how I'm how I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was criticizing John earlier for being not positive enough

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<v Speaker 2>about our bets. But when it's actually going on and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a game like I always just assume no matter,

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<v Speaker 2>like something's gonna happen to where I'm not gonna get this.

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<v Speaker 2>But sure enough, they put themselves in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>kick that field goal to win it. What was that

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<v Speaker 2>like forty six yards or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that that was his second miss of the night,

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, was a big ten kicker of the year last.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh was he?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I knew that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, that was a toughaon by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a tough That's a tough night for a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's proven to be a good kicker. And then

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<v Speaker 2>in the opener, you got a chance to beat a

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<v Speaker 2>Power five team and your Power four team and you

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You choke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, clearly there were other things that could have put

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<v Speaker 2>them in a better situation where they needed that, But like,

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<v Speaker 2>you got one job to do make kicks and.

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<v Speaker 3>He missed two that you know, one would have been

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<v Speaker 3>the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right, that's right. And then I didn't I do

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<v Speaker 2>I can't watch call Dolrado John. I watched a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and I kept having to change the channel because

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Jones, who you know is is an announcer for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's he's good at what he does. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a huge fan of him, but like that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's not good. Everybody's got their own taste when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to announcers that they prefer. He's just not

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<v Speaker 2>really my cup of tea. But good god, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he just I can't say what I want to say.

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<v Speaker 4>But the whole broadcast was kind of a big promo

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<v Speaker 4>for Colorado and coach Prime, was it not?

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<v Speaker 3>It was?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why they're they had, like why.

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<v Speaker 3>They were talking.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is not not to say that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>mention these things, but they kept mentioning like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>the all the town loves them. You brought in so

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<v Speaker 4>many different like like they have the enrollment and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like fifty percent up and you selled out tickets

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<v Speaker 4>for the entire season. All that stuff is good. But

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<v Speaker 4>when you make the entire broadcast about that and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have anything to show for on the field just yet,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like you're promoting something that doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 4>substance behind it just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what I understand how this works, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could be the TMZ of college football, like

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado is and win four games five games. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you are still generating, you know a lot of viewership,

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<v Speaker 2>and you command a lot of attention, which Deon Sanders does.

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<v Speaker 2>Those that work in broadcasting programming, they're gonna play the hits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how this works. So if Colorado continues to stay like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Kentucky basketball, if Kentucky basketball was a team

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<v Speaker 2>that for four or five years was you know, five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred at best, which would never happen, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it did, there's still enough people that care

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<v Speaker 2>about Kentucky basketball to where they would still get primetime games.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado, I mean, they've not been relevant in college football,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they may have. They have champions they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They do have a national championship, but it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most random championships of all time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's one where there were multiple teams that could

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<v Speaker 2>claim they won a championship. And like, Deon Sanders is

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting character. He's flashy, he's prime elite football player,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who was good enough to play both professional

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<v Speaker 2>baseball and professional football at the same time. Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a walking promo. But now he's coaching football, and he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't done anything that shows he's good at that at

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<v Speaker 2>this level. And yet none of that matters because again,

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<v Speaker 2>if they continue to have this much attention surrounding them,

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<v Speaker 2>he continues to, you know, be the way he is,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet they still have little success. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>this is always going to be how it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it. I'm such a hater, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it almost feels like they're milking it because

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<v Speaker 4>they know it's not going to last much longer.

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<v Speaker 3>That may be part of it, too, Yeah, I mean, because.

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<v Speaker 4>If they if they suck, what if they take a

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<v Speaker 4>step back, you think he gets fired. I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 4>An they're selling tickets, maybe it doesn't matter. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, if you take a step backward, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no way you sell out as many games next year

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<v Speaker 4>before the season even starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know a single Colorado fan. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gona assume you don't either, right, correct, So it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to like check the pulse of their fan base in

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<v Speaker 2>any way. But I did see last night on the

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<v Speaker 2>message boards. Well I wasn't on the message boards, but

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<v Speaker 2>what is it message board genius that Twitter accounts. That's great,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll go out in real because people I guess people

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<v Speaker 2>go to the message boards like during games, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they do. Like I guess their game threads

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody's communicating with each other within the message board

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<v Speaker 2>while the game's going on, and you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>were showing I saw some posts during the game in

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<v Speaker 2>after to where their fans were critical of Dion and

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<v Speaker 2>the staff, like because they were I mean, they could

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<v Speaker 2>have lost that game. It came under the last play,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, that's probably a game they would have lost

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<v Speaker 2>last year, Like I saw somebody say that. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you carry yourself the way that he does, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has such an arrogance about himself as a coach to

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<v Speaker 2>where he's deciding who can and can't ask questions at

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<v Speaker 2>his press conferences, he's live about stuff that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to lie about. Well, I can't prove that

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<v Speaker 2>he's lying about it, but I don't believe him. But

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<v Speaker 2>like to do all that and then be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe six and six this year, like I just anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else who carries themselves that way and doesn't succeed would

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<v Speaker 2>be ridiculed in a major way. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever happening with Deon Sanders. It will by like random,

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<v Speaker 2>because again I could feel it last night, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>could feel it as we were watching, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to change. I just I couldn't hear Mark what's his name,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Jones gargled Deon Sanders privates anymore. I couldn't hear,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't listen to it. It's just, you know, over nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was going back and forth. But if if

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<v Speaker 2>you had your phone out and you were on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know a lot of you people aren't. In God,

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<v Speaker 2>your life's probably a lot better than ours because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a toxic place to be. But everybody was wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>see Dion Sanders lose to North Dakota States in his

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<v Speaker 2>first game of year, number two, And at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the app itself might have melted to the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and no longer existed because it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been insane. But I don't know, man, And he's got

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<v Speaker 2>his another thing. He's got really special players. His son's

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<v Speaker 2>a great quarterback. I mean, Hunter is the best player

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<v Speaker 2>in college football according to a lot of people. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you needing to sweat out against North Dakota State,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, I know North Kota State is good, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you're prime and you're talking the way you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about being in a playoff this year, I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>where they are as far as being an FCS team.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have won ten straight national championships. As an

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<v Speaker 2>FCS team, you shouldn't be in that situation where it's

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<v Speaker 2>that close.

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<v Speaker 3>And like there's no universe where Georgia struggles in.

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<v Speaker 2>This no well, and like somebody's at Like somebody asked

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<v Speaker 2>me earlier when we were talking Dean Sanders this week

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<v Speaker 2>on the text line, and I never answered it, but

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff like what's going to be your stance, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then at that point they will have earned it, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some people do. Last year, I wasn't like on

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<v Speaker 2>and dominated TCU, remember that, and we didn't know TCU stunk,

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<v Speaker 2>but they dominated him. Then they then they took it

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<v Speaker 3>The first two or three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have been three weeks they were

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<v Speaker 2>delivering great viewership because you know, people wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>what can Deon Sanders do now that he's in the

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<v Speaker 2>Power five. And they were winning and it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they started losing, and like there's no there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>no humility in any way because they could be three

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<v Speaker 2>and nine this year and he will still have no

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<v Speaker 2>and that people need to bow down to him and

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like an old curmudgeon, get off my lawn

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<v Speaker 2>guy when it comes to this stuff. And maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is like the turning point for me where I am

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<v Speaker 2>becoming the traditionalist that you know doesn't like arrogant people

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<v Speaker 2>that are over the top, Like it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do all that and back it up as a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never done that. Now again, he's only coached thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>games at this level. And I know what he did

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<v Speaker 2>at Jackson State was cool, but it's not the same

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<v Speaker 2>at all. That's a rare situation where that guy, a

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<v Speaker 2>larger than life figure within sports, who would have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to recruit because he's primed but anything, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>is a great salesman. So like him going and putting

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<v Speaker 2>together a freakishly good team for the FCS level and

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<v Speaker 2>winning at Jackson State, that's impressive. Credit to him, But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not like I mean, that isn't that surprising And

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<v Speaker 2>it really wouldn't have been that surprising if he got

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<v Speaker 2>to Colorado and you know, they won six games last

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<v Speaker 2>year and this year they won eight. But like again,

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<v Speaker 2>he's carrying himself in a way that I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't fathom. And then again, I can't relate to

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<v Speaker 2>him because he's Dean Sanders and I'm not, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, So like the transition for him to

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<v Speaker 2>go from this larger than life I'm an elite, all

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<v Speaker 2>time great athlete, one of the few people on planet

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<v Speaker 2>Earth they can say they were that successful to be good,

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<v Speaker 2>if not great, in both sports. I don't know enough

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<v Speaker 2>about his baseball career, but I know he wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>some guy that ended up on the team like Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan did at the Triple A. Prime was playing for

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves. So like he has justification to have that

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<v Speaker 2>inflated sense of worth as an athlete. He's not an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not playing, he's coaching, and it's it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>he should have a different PERSONA don't be a B

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<v Speaker 2>be you. But also I guess what it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to is that there's a level of humility that he's

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<v Speaker 2>never had to deal with as an athlete that you

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<v Speaker 2>know now that he's coaching. It's clear it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a compatibility there, right, Like he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to be humble. Even if he loses every game

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<v Speaker 2>he coaches, he still knows who he is as a

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<v Speaker 2>player and what he's accomplished to where he's just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be he's gonna be arrogant about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that I get this worked up about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but here we are, at least I'm honest about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not as bad as me, but I get the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you you are, like you wanted him to

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<v Speaker 2>lose last night, right, Yeah, And it's I think what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think why it bothers us is that it just

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<v Speaker 4>seems like there's so much it's like a lack of

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<v Speaker 4>self awareness, and I think it kind of reminds us

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<v Speaker 4>of what we've really what you've dealt with and louisll

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<v Speaker 4>fans have dealt with Kenny Payne over the last couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years because and obviously the success level is a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit different. But when you have somebody who refuses

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<v Speaker 4>to be humble and you can make that comparison with Louisville,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that's why you it bothers you so much. And

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<v Speaker 4>it does bother me too for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing that does irritate me is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>at a point where he could say anything and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>would call him on it, and that's just not what

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<v Speaker 2>coaches can typically do with the platform like this is

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<v Speaker 2>from last night's game.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five yard twenty five yard line.

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<v Speaker 5>DURA has been a swirl of noise and activity around

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<v Speaker 5>this Colorado program for.

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<v Speaker 6>The last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's listen to it and coach Prime's works. Eric Kristensen

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<v Speaker 3>with CBS Sports Colorado see.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler, I'm not doing none with CBA's next question with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's above that you got none to do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got love for you, I appreciate respect you, and

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<v Speaker 1>got none to do with you.

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<v Speaker 2>They know what they did.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach John Ye of the Denver Post.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't let us man, why do you do this

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on?

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<v Speaker 5>Like it would be hard for me to really engage

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<v Speaker 5>in someone I don't like or something I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just asking why and why.

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<v Speaker 6>Jimmy Horn picking up the first down on that opening play,

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<v Speaker 6>first down in ten and Coach Prime in meeting with

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<v Speaker 6>him yesterday, he felt that you see, you know at

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<v Speaker 6>four and eighth, three and nine news conference, this is

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<v Speaker 6>one of the parts from the Denver Post story.

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<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't that. Coach Prime told us he felt

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<v Speaker 5>that a reporter in question questioned and attacked his faith

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<v Speaker 5>and subsequently went over the line and thus his actions

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<v Speaker 5>as a result.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he told.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, So I thought Mark Jones and ESPN bringing that

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<v Speaker 2>to the broadcast a private conversation with Dion Sanders. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're claiming that this reporter from the Denver Post, Sean Keeler,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're reporting that the reason you don't want him around,

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions is because you feel as if he's personally

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<v Speaker 2>attacked your faith. Shouldn't you have to back that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Because people who work for the Denver Post are were

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<v Speaker 2>outraged last night, including colleagues of that writer Sean Keeler,

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<v Speaker 2>who says that that never happened and it's not worth

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<v Speaker 2>repeating in a national broadcast, which I like, again, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just say things without having any basis. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you can, but like your university, your employers

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't shouldn't allow that to happen, Like it reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of Jim McIlwain. Jim mcawaine was a pretty good coach

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<v Speaker 2>at Florida. They hit a rough stretch during I believe

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<v Speaker 2>his third season, and if you remember, there was that

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<v Speaker 2>naked guy on a shark on a boat and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thought it looked like him.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what I'm talking about. I don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not recalling him. Maybe I have a son and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that. I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Google Jim Mackailwayne boat and you'll see the picture and

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<v Speaker 2>if you tell me you've never seen that before, that

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<v Speaker 2>will surprise me. But then again, I guess it was

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<v Speaker 2>like six years ago, now that I'll think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, he was dealing with media, dealing with fans upset,

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<v Speaker 2>and in a press conference he made the insinuation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, he did more than just insinuate. He said

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<v Speaker 2>that his family's receiving death threats because of the struggling

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<v Speaker 2>Florida program. Well, you know that's different than somebody attacking

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<v Speaker 2>your faith. But you've accused a writer for the Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Post of something that like, they should have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to defend themselves. And now that it's out there, according

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Jones, that Dion says, that's why this guy

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to go to Deon Sanders' Deon Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>employer and say that didn't happen. I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>see proof, because now I know why you're claiming. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't ask questions. But anyways, back to Macawayne, when he

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<v Speaker 2>said that like that, I don't think anybody at that

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<v Speaker 2>time felt that that was like a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I've never seen that picture. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>mad that you looked at it?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully it was censored. You know that's not him, but

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<v Speaker 3>it looks exactly like him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, and like it got shared and he he

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<v Speaker 2>had to address it at a press conference like.

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<v Speaker 3>It ain't me, it ain't me, which is very awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, Florida the university looked into his allegation, his

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<v Speaker 2>allegations that his family had received death threats, because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just say that, So they looked into it and

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<v Speaker 2>determined he made it up, and he got fired, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like not to say that that's the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact thing here, but like Deon Sanders can block the

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<v Speaker 2>entire Denver media from coming and he could just make

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<v Speaker 2>up something and nobody would actually call him on it

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<v Speaker 2>because he thinks he can do things that nobody else

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<v Speaker 2>can because he's Deon Sanders, and look, he clearly can.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado's letting him do it. I mean, I know how

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<v Speaker 2>the SID business works, and I know that whoever is

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of being the sports information director probably you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lost a lot of sleep knowing they were about to

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<v Speaker 2>put out the release stating that the Denver Posts beat

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<v Speaker 2>writer is not allowed to ask questions because that's like

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<v Speaker 2>who does that? That's I mean, there are coaches who've

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<v Speaker 2>actually handled like deal. Sanders doesn't get enough criticism for

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<v Speaker 2>being allowsy coach and yet he's blocking somebody from asking

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<v Speaker 2>a question who may in fact have the stones to

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<v Speaker 2>call him on some things. So again to answer the question,

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<v Speaker 2>like if he is successful this year, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn into a Colorado fan, know, but like at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, like he should be able to be like

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<v Speaker 2>he would have reason to be braggedosious, and he did

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<v Speaker 2>last year at the beginning of the season, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we learned it like that was really nonsense. And then

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<v Speaker 2>things that really just made it clear to me what

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing is. Like he had a good offense,

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<v Speaker 2>but he'd you know, daddy ball. He didn't like how

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<v Speaker 2>his son had a you know, a bad game, so

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<v Speaker 2>he took the play calling duties away from the OC,

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<v Speaker 2>who was overqualified to be his OC anyway. Like just

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<v Speaker 2>little things like that. But last night the prime effect.

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<v Speaker 2>They won four games last year, But yet they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a prime effect. And this stuff does matter when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like, you know, like it matters. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say this is nothing. But their program

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<v Speaker 2>now has two point two point twenty six million followers

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, and they only had two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight thousand the year before that. Merchandise sales has

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<v Speaker 2>increased by over five hundred percent. University applications is up

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one percent among Black and African American students. Ten

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<v Speaker 2>plus million has been generated from home game direct economic

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<v Speaker 2>for home like basically the economic impact into the Boulder

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00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:41.200
<v Speaker 2>community has been substantial because of the amount of money

423
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<v Speaker 2>that's coming in for these home games. People are showing

424
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<v Speaker 2>up and they're selling out games. Which again that stuff

425
00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.480
<v Speaker 2>is good and it matters, but at what point does

426
00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.759
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff drop off when they don't win? Like

427
00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.799
<v Speaker 2>how long can you keep this prime effect growing if

428
00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they don't win? And again, he's only in his second season.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's not like he's been there ten years,

430
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<v Speaker 2>but you know, Dion, there's a little bit of Kenny

431
00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.680
<v Speaker 2>pain there. And what I mean by that is for

432
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<v Speaker 2>those who who really wanted Kenny Payne to like, you know.

433
00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:09.920
<v Speaker 3>They wanted it to work out.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wanted to work out initially and then like it

435
00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>was quite clear to me that it was there was

436
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<v Speaker 2>no scenario with that it ever happened. Remember, people would say,

437
00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.240
<v Speaker 2>give him time, he'll figure it out. He's still learning,

438
00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a first time head coach. Like those are all

439
00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like legitimate things to say, in most situations like that, however,

440
00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.119
<v Speaker 2>how can he adjust? How can he figure it out

441
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.279
<v Speaker 2>and fix things when he doesn't think anything's wrong on

442
00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:35.079
<v Speaker 2>his end? It was never his fault, that's dion. They

443
00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 2>could go four and eight this year and he will

444
00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.559
<v Speaker 2>still be parading around as if like he's a great

445
00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.960
<v Speaker 2>coach and like you know, it's everybody else's fault, like

446
00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just if you're Colorado, Like you don't want that,

447
00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.319
<v Speaker 2>do you, Because at some point it becomes a joke

448
00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.359
<v Speaker 2>that like, you've got this guy who's brought you so

449
00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.359
<v Speaker 2>much attention, but like, is he gonna win?

450
00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:57.039
<v Speaker 3>All right? Quick break will come back? Keep this thing

451
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<v Speaker 3>rolling along.

452
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<v Speaker 2>We got to talk about some of our picks for

453
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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow's loaded slate of college football. I got one game

454
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<v Speaker 2>tonight that I'm interested, and there might be a second one.

455
00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do with that TCU Standford game.

456
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<v Speaker 3>John.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Usually that means stay away, But when you got a

458
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<v Speaker 2>small card like tonight, small board, I should say those

459
00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.839
<v Speaker 2>are two Power Conference teams playing each other. I got

460
00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.559
<v Speaker 2>an itch to get something going there.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Stick with us.

462
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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company. Fel about Thorton's right here on

463
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety, we'll forget. We've got the pregame

464
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<v Speaker 2>show for you tomorrow starting at eleven am and there'll

465
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<v Speaker 2>be one hour before kickoff every week. And our pregame

466
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<v Speaker 2>show this year is sponsored by the fine folks that

467
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<v Speaker 2>at Jefferson Animal Hospital as well as Pellow Windows and

468
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<v Speaker 2>Doors of Central Kentucky. We appreciate them and we now

469
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<v Speaker 2>can announce it. We've got our postgame show with our

470
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<v Speaker 2>new sponsor. We've been working on this and now it's

471
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<v Speaker 2>finally got done it the last minute, which is good news,

472
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<v Speaker 2>which is really good news. But our postgame show this year,

473
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<v Speaker 2>the louisvill Football Postgame Show on Sports Talk seven ninety's

474
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<v Speaker 2>going to be present by Alex R. White Lawyers who

475
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<v Speaker 2>distracted Driver dot Com. So big thanks to Alex R.

476
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<v Speaker 2>White Lawyers and his team. And yeah, exciting stuff. So

477
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<v Speaker 2>I've got again pre and postgame duties this year. So

478
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<v Speaker 2>just what you guys wanted, more Nick coffee, right and

479
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<v Speaker 2>again I hope you can sense the sarcasm when I

480
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<v Speaker 2>say that. So again eleven o'clock tomorrow and then kick

481
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<v Speaker 2>off at noon and then as soon as it ends,

482
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<v Speaker 2>right back here for the post game. So looking forward

483
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<v Speaker 2>to it. Not really sure to expect as far as reaction,

484
00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.000
<v Speaker 2>because you know, it should be a blowout, which I

485
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 2>would hope that all the new players that we haven't

486
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<v Speaker 2>actually seen play in a Louisville uniform, if they go

487
00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:35.440
<v Speaker 2>out there and they make big plays, I would imagine

488
00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:36.839
<v Speaker 2>there'll be a lot of folks that are calling in

489
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of expressing the excitement about seeing this guy or

490
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.599
<v Speaker 2>that guy, rather it be Tyler Shuck or ja Cory Brooks,

491
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:47.519
<v Speaker 2>the transfer from Alabama, receiver Thorick Griffin, the defensive lineman

492
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<v Speaker 2>from Harvard.

493
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Who's got a lot of buzz.

494
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<v Speaker 2>So that really is what stands out to me more

495
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<v Speaker 2>than anything when it comes to the excitement of just

496
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.559
<v Speaker 2>getting the season started outside of you know that alone,

497
00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>knowing we're here and it's back a lot of the

498
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<v Speaker 2>new players, That's.

499
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<v Speaker 3>What I'm eager to see.

500
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm aware that if they ball out against Austin

501
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.319
<v Speaker 2>p it doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be able to

502
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>do that when the competition gets tougher, but hey, all

503
00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>you can do is play is on your schedule, and

504
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:12.359
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow it is the Austin p governors that are going

505
00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to be in town. To get a beating, and hopefully

506
00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:17.240
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what Louisville gives them.

507
00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:18.359
<v Speaker 3>And when I.

508
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.839
<v Speaker 2>See other scores out there, seventy to nothing, that's what

509
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.079
<v Speaker 2>happened last night Arkansas and Arkansas Pine Bluff. I mean,

510
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying louis has got to go win seventy

511
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>to nothing, but I've made it quite clear this week

512
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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the money that is being paid

513
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to these schools, don't feel bad if you beat them

514
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:39.759
<v Speaker 2>one hundred to nothing. I mean, seriously, if you could

515
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 2>do that, why not. It'll be a national story that

516
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you scored one hundred points and they can't claim to

517
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<v Speaker 2>be victims.

518
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 3>They came and.

519
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Got a fat check. By the way, how about Bobby

520
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:57.839
<v Speaker 2>p calling the plays last night for Arkansas and we'll

521
00:23:57.880 --> 00:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>see what he does when they play, you know, real team.

522
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 2>But whenever he got the job as the OC at Arkansas,

523
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 2>it was the first thing I thought of, he's gonna

524
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.440
<v Speaker 2>be their head coach when they fire Sam Pittman mid season.

525
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But then again, if they're having success, they wouldn't fire

526
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Sam Pittman because you know things are going well. So

527
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the scenario where that happens is their offense looks good,

528
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 2>but they're inept in other areas and they're still losing,

529
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and the blame falls on Pittman. Bobby is Bobby. I

530
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>mean he went from being the most hated man in

531
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Fayetteville to now being welcomed back with open arms because

532
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 2>over a decade later, a lot of things have changed. Yeah,

533
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>he you know, lied about a lot of stuff, had

534
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<v Speaker 2>an affair with a volleyball player, allegedly wrecked his motorcycles.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Some people still think he just got the hell beat

536
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<v Speaker 2>out of him by that volleyball player's boyfriend. I mean,

537
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll never know what happened, but they have not had

538
00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>any level of success that is close to what Bobby betray,

539
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:01.599
<v Speaker 2>you know how buten he was the head coach, and Bobby,

540
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I think his best days as a coach are along

541
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 2>behind him.

542
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean at Louisville.

543
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, he had a good run there, and I

544
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:08.440
<v Speaker 2>still think I don't think you forget how to be

545
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a good coach.

546
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 3>But Bobby, you.

547
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Know, once he left Louisville ended up at Missouri State,

548
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't even that good. And Bobby's not exactly somebody

549
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.319
<v Speaker 2>you want to bring into your athletic department, not to

550
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 2>say he's the worst human in the world, but like

551
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>he ain't easy to work with or work for, which

552
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.400
<v Speaker 2>honestly one of the factors and why he started to

553
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>fall quickly after Lamar, and I guess more than anything,

554
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, I mean, even when Lamar was

555
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.079
<v Speaker 2>here and you won eight games in Lamar's last year,

556
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>it still felt underwhelming. But Bobby couldn't hire a staff.

557
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he didn't mind hiring family members because you know,

558
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it's easy. They're probably not gonna tell you no. You

559
00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>can boss him around more than you can probably anybody.

560
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>But he also nobody would have gonna work. Nobody's gonna

561
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>work for him. I mean when they went out and

562
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:52.720
<v Speaker 2>got Brian Van Gorder to play to take over the

563
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>defense and paid him what they paid him, that was

564
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>quite literally because they couldn't get anybody else. So I

565
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Bobby ever as a head coach again

566
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 2>at that level, but like if they start, you know,

567
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>let me pull up their schedule because now I'm curious

568
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and and I have no clue what would happened. But

569
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I kind of want him. I kind of want that

570
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of chaos to happen to where they get rid

571
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 2>of they get rid of Sam Pittman just because they're

572
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>they're struggling mid year. And by the way, they were

573
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>already close to getting rid of them anyway. Right, So like,

574
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this year, if let's see who's our

575
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 2>next games against. They got Oklahoma State next week and

576
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 2>that'll be a big game for them. Maybe they end

577
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 2>up getting you know, hammered. But if they beat the

578
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 2>teams they're supposed to be, like UAB on September fourteenth,

579
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, let's say they end up beating Auburn, who's

580
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>not expected to be great this year. I mean, they

581
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>could beat Oklahoma State. I mean, crazy things have happened.

582
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, they do have a really tough schedule, which

583
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>makes it i mean challenging. But like if their offense

584
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like it's a problem and they still can score,

585
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know, things just aren't they're not winning, they

586
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>may just boot Pittman because they feel like they've seen

587
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>enough and just decide, Okay, we got seven games left.

588
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's see what Bobby Buttrino can do. And maybe he's

589
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>not like the future. But then again, you got to

590
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind Arkansas the most success they ever had

591
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>in football, at least in my lifetime was when Bobby

592
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>was their guy. Now it was a long time ago

593
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and things have changed. But I don't know, seventy points

594
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>last night for one Bobby Buttrino in the Arkansas Razorbacks.

595
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, some other notable takeaways from last night at

596
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 2>least you know some things that stood out to me

597
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to our Thursday night football action. I

598
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 2>think we had our first bad beat when it comes

599
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to sports wagering, Like where if you were on the

600
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 2>wrong side of what happened in this Rutgers game, you

601
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>can say bad beat and not just you know you

602
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 2>lost a bet that you nearly won.

603
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 3>Know, this is a bad beat.

604
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So it was Rutgers minus thirty eight and the total

605
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>was fifty one and a half. So when I watch this,

606
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I get a little like, this is the last touchdown

607
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 2>of the game.

608
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Now the Scarlet kites more than three hundred yards on

609
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 1>the ground.

610
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Raymond burst it through the hole, not wanting to go

611
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>to sa He doesn't.

612
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Raven's first tier touchdown bus triple zero is on the.

613
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Clock and the so he scored that touchdown to put

614
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>them it was thirty eight to seven. He scored the touchdown.

615
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>So then they of course, you know, as the clock

616
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>hit zero, they they covered, right, they were winning by

617
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 2>more than thirty eight. Well, because the clock hit zero,

618
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 2>they didn't kick the extra point. So the total of

619
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>fifty one and a half you didn't get because of

620
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that half point. I mean, like, that's that sucks. That's

621
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's terrible, right, Like you could have like

622
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>if you parlayed same game there and you did I'm

623
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>taking Rutgers minus thirty eight and I'm taking the over,

624
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you put a sizeable amount of money

625
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>on there. Let's say you put a fifty spot on

626
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 2>there and that's how you lost. That's the kind of

627
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff that like that kind of makes you realize, like

628
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm never doing this again. I mean, you shouldn't be

629
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>like that, because hey, it happens and it's all just

630
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 2>for fun.

631
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 3>But like that would suck.

632
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>But you could also look at it, like put it

633
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>this way, going back to John. John picked four winners

634
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 2>in week zero, but he just didn't wager.

635
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<v Speaker 3>That sucks.

636
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 2>That's a punch to the gut. But like you can

637
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>also move forward knowing like no matter what happens the

638
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of the way, you'll never have a worse week

639
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>in wagering than Week zero. You didn't lose any money,

640
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>but man, you could have won, right it Like it's

641
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in the past. Now we're moving forward. We're believing in

642
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 2>the power of positivity. Another thing that stood out to

643
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>me watching that guy score a meaningless touchdown late that

644
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>he could have easily just laid down, but he kept fighting.

645
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 3>You won.

646
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Like if you just did that bed alone where you

647
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 2>did Rutger's minus thirty eight and you were sweating that

648
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>at the end, knowing they're gonna hand it off, they're

649
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>on the eight yard line, they might just take a knee,

650
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens. But this guy who'd never scored

651
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown before, he wants to get one right. He

652
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 2>wants his first touchdown in this blowout victory. So if

653
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you end up cashing big there just because you did

654
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a straight bet of Ruggers minus thirty eight and you

655
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>put a lot of money on it and it was

656
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a big winner for you, that's great. You're celebrating. But

657
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the way my mind is wired, I would instantly think

658
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like what am I doing? I was so lucky, Like

659
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>it could have easily just taken a knee like it's

660
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>complete luck. And sometimes that scares me when it comes

661
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to betting, because I'm like, what am I doing? Like

662
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>it's all luck? But also it reminds me it's just

663
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>for fun. And you know, that's why I don't put

664
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<v Speaker 2>big money down, because even if I feel super confident

665
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 2>about a bet, like, you never know what's going to happen.

666
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 4>And why we were able to be a little extra

667
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 4>invested in Minnesota North Carolina last night and we got

668
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 4>to sweat it out watching Dragon miss that.

669
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Kick at the very end, and again the end result

670
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>was bad. I had twitter out and I thought of you,

671
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and I saw that you tweeted something like damn Minnesota,

672
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>and I felt because we were both sad together and

673
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 2>we both are said, however, would you agree though, that

674
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 2>just being in the action there, that's fun? Yeah, okay,

675
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>because that's and I don't say this to be you know,

676
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be funny. But like I'm being sincere when

677
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I say this, I've really enjoyed seeing you get acclimated

678
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 2>to betting on sports because it was brand new to

679
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you last year, right like, and it became legal here

680
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and obviously now you got your own sports book that

681
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>you're working with, which is awesome for you, but you

682
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 2>are you know, it's it's played out exactly how I

683
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>would have wanted it to where you're doing it for entertainment.

684
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>It's nice to win some money here and there, but

685
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>like I think some people just think, like, oh, I'm

686
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>not getting into that because I'll blow a bunch of money.

687
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Like no, you bet small and you you know, it's entertainment.

688
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 2>And last I checked, regardless of your means, you try

689
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>to find a budget to where you can, you know,

690
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>have entertainment rather than.

691
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Say this going to the movies or something like that.

692
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I hate that. I was. I had no confidence he

693
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>was going to make that kick last night.

694
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>So did I. Man, that's and that's and that's a

695
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>bad feeling, isn't it.

696
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 4>It is a bad feeling you're just sitting there watching

697
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 4>like you just have because it's the same feeling you

698
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 4>Proba probably have it.

699
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 3>There was no chance he was gonna make it.

700
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even though he was the big ten kicker of

701
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the year.

702
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 3>There was just a bad vibe around him for whatever.

703
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And not to say that like I predict a bit,

704
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like I thought he was gonna miss it. And the

705
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>way it missed was like exactly what I envisioned, like

706
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 2>not a shank, but just like you know, not precise,

707
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know.

708
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 3>Like that happens. That sucks.

709
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>But like losing a bet because of a miskick is

710
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.680
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily qualifiing as a as a bad beat. And

711
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, neither of us have called it a

712
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>bad beat. The bad beat is the ruggers right there,

713
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it. But yeah, I mean, and

714
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I thought when I really got into betting on college

715
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 2>basketball and I was having some success, I worried a

716
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 2>little bit about trying to bet on things that I

717
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>don't really care about, just because it's something to bet on.

718
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not kidding you. Other than the occasional NBA bet,

719
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't open up I didn't open up

720
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 2>the apps much at all from the end of college

721
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 2>basketball to now, which you know, it's been boring because

722
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I do like betting, but like I know what I

723
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, I know what I enjoy betting on. It's

724
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 2>college basketball, college football, NFL and then occasionally the NBA.

725
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And if it's not that, you know, I don't need

726
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to do it. I can entertain myself different ways there's

727
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately people when it comes to gambling that that they

728
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>need something.

729
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they there's people during COVID they were betting on

730
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 4>marble races and stuff like that.

731
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, as long as you're doing responsibly, I

732
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>guess not yourself out. But like you know, I know

733
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>my personality. If I got to where I was betting

734
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.440
<v Speaker 2>on things like that, I would know that I need

735
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to find a new hobby. All right, quick break, we'll

736
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>come back and wrap this thing up. On the other side,

737
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 2>it is coffee and Company on a Friday here on

738
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety.

739
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<v Speaker 3>One.

740
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Thing I did not realize in the Kentucky matchup tomorrow,

741
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 2>they've got Southern Miss. I did not realize that Tate Routomaker,

742
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 2>the former Florida State quarterback, is now the starting quarterback

743
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>at Southern Miss. I don't think that's going to make

744
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>them a super dangerous opponent for Kentucky. But you know,

745
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 2>with the portal, man, you're gonna see guys throughout this

746
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>college football season playing in places and you're gonna remember, Oh,

747
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that guy who had no clue transferred. So anyways,

748
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 2>tonight's action, Uh, you got any thoughts and if you don't.

749
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, but I'm just curious. Do you have any

750
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I know we're going against each other. You're gonna take

751
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State to cover. I'm gonna take FAU to cover

752
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>in that game. But Stanford TCU? Any any thoughts because

753
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>it's I have nothing, but I want to bet on it,

754
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but I know I probably shouldn't.

755
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 4>John, I don't know a whole lot about either team.

756
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 4>If I were guessing, I feel like TCU is known

757
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.039
<v Speaker 4>for their offense. I don't think they've made a coaching

758
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 4>change in the most recent years. I would go with

759
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 4>maybe t what's the what's the spread here?

760
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 3>In that one?

761
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I would Yeah, if I'm gonna touch it, I would,

762
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I would touch.

763
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I would.

764
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I would fade Stanford because they just sucked. But yeah,

765
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>it's TCU minus eight and a half, which is a

766
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>sizeable number. But Stanford, man, they suck. They lost to

767
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 2>like two SUSA.

768
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 3>And a half. I'm not taking it, but that's what

769
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I would take.

770
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>And then tomorrow we're all in on on Georgia covering. Right,

771
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 2>you have any thoughts on this West Virginia Penn State,

772
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it's probably stay away from me.

773
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm staying away from it too. But West Virginia

774
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.079
<v Speaker 4>they've got momentum under Dan Neil Brown, and.

775
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 3>They got the McAfee momentum too.

776
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 4>Man, they've been horned up. They've been tailgating since August first,

777
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 4>apparently in the stadium.

778
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you see McAfee's going to give a million dollars

779
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>to the collective down there, he announced on the show today.

780
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and that that'll get them fired up.

781
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I love Virginia Tech MNUS thirteen and a half against

782
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>vander But we talked about that one earlier in the

783
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>week with Brian.

784
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that line.

785
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that is that is someone just

786
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>assuming because they're in the SEC, they'll be more competitive.

787
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Bandy sucks in Virginia Tech. I don't think that they're

788
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna win the ACC. But like I think this is

789
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>this is just an SEC respect line for Bandy and

790
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech is gonna be the home team in Nashville

791
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and.

792
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Take him down.

793
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And then as far as the other games, you know,

794
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I'm gonna get in on it with the

795
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Florida of Miami, but I me.

796
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 4>The Hoosiers by the way, and the we're not the Hoosiers,

797
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 4>but give me the over and Hoosiers FIU, which is

798
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 4>fifty one and a half of home.

799
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm taking Indiana minus twenty two. Well you don't

800
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 2>have to do it.

801
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it.

802
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>John Signetty's getting it started with a beat down. I'm

803
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 2>ready sigged up. All right, We're back at it tomorrow

804
00:35:58.599 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>at eleven am.

805
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>So join us.

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00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>That's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety for the

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00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.599
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00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.760
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00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.440
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00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.159
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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Have a good weekend, everybody,
