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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from Studio A. Here at proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella me,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>I love today's topic over achievers. Overachievers are somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>achieves success over and above the standard of the expected level.

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<v Speaker 1>It might not surprise you, but my entire life, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always been told I'm too driven, move too fast. My

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<v Speaker 1>teachers and the police used to tell me to slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my doctor's telling me to slow down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, being an overachiever can definitely be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, with people, you need to know when

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<v Speaker 2>to stop and reserve your energy for yourself. But with plants,

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<v Speaker 2>there's really no such restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and we're going to talk about overachieving

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<v Speaker 1>plants today. I love this topic because, you know, walking

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<v Speaker 1>through the garden center, there's a number of plants that

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<v Speaker 1>come to mind for me where if someone did not

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<v Speaker 1>know their stories, and Stacy, you're a great storyteller of

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<v Speaker 1>plants in plants on trial, and when people learn those

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<v Speaker 1>stories of plants, then they developed this relationship with them

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<v Speaker 1>and understand their potential in the garden center. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>in spring, if you walk by a gampfrina, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite annuals, people are apt to walk right past

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<v Speaker 1>it because it looks green, doesn't look all that exciting

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<v Speaker 1>in many cases compared to the other annuals that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there, So you have to learn their stories. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as people, we also tend to gravitate towards

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<v Speaker 1>what is familiar. Now, my definition of plants that are overachievers,

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<v Speaker 1>my personal definition is number one, the plant surprises you

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<v Speaker 1>in its development from its original condition. So you could

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<v Speaker 1>say elephant ear kalladiums I mentioned, gampfrin or scavola, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something as simple as a sunflower seed, a castor bean plant,

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<v Speaker 1>or a hyacinth bean seed, maybe Alium gigantium, but something

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<v Speaker 1>like that that surprises you in how it develops beyond

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<v Speaker 1>its original condition. Number two, they're flourished, seems to come

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<v Speaker 1>easy to them, in other words, somewhat easy to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>And number three, they give more than just a week

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<v Speaker 1>or two of interest. And of course you could argue

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<v Speaker 1>that fact with many annuals which tend to be over achievers.

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<v Speaker 1>Overachievers for a while and then of course burnout as

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<v Speaker 1>we get.

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<v Speaker 2>To fall happens way too often with you know, some annuals,

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<v Speaker 2>not all annuals. But you know, the this concept of

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<v Speaker 2>an overachiever, I mean, we have we could fill ours

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the plants that we feel are overachievers. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going back to our talk about garden nostalgia,

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<v Speaker 2>this concept of overachiever plants is actually relatively new. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, people needed to work really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get a good performance from the plants in their garden,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas nowadays, you know, if because not just because of

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<v Speaker 2>plant breeding, but also because there are so many more

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<v Speaker 2>options on the market, you know, with container growing that

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<v Speaker 2>opened up so many more plants at the garden center.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether you have an overachiever through virtue of plant

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<v Speaker 2>breeding that it doesn't need dead heading, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>genetically developed to just blue and blue and bloom like

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<v Speaker 2>most preven Veinnurse annuals, or just because plants like my

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<v Speaker 2>beloved Sylphium perfoliatum is just now more widely available, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas forty years ago, you know, you would have had

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<v Speaker 2>to probably dig sylphium out of some swamp somewhere if

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<v Speaker 2>you want it in your garden, and that wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you had it in your yard, it would

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<v Speaker 1>stick out because other people didn't have it. But now

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<v Speaker 1>more and more people get to enjoy that specific overachiever.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me kick off the topic with a limb a rick.

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<v Speaker 1>I've caught a bad case of spring fever, ready to plant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an eager beaver with winter. Instead of being dejected,

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<v Speaker 1>my plans are progressing better than expected. You could say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an over achiever with plants. I have a natural

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<v Speaker 1>sense a perceiver. They give happiness and I'm the receiver

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<v Speaker 1>instead of doing absolutely zero, They've made me a neighborhood hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a plant that's an overachiever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? That reminded me of another important aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of a plant being an overachiever. That's a great limock

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, thank you, But to me, another characteristic

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<v Speaker 2>is what does the plant do for the wildlife? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, insects, birds, butterflies, all of this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, there should be something an overachiever

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<v Speaker 2>does in addition, So yes, we are the receiver when

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<v Speaker 2>we have an overachieving plant. Because we get to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>how beautiful it is. And everyone thinks that were some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of superstar gardener, when the fact is all we

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<v Speaker 2>did was pick the right plants and plant them in

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<v Speaker 2>the right place. It really is that simple. Revealing a

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<v Speaker 2>big secret here apparently. But you know, also there are

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<v Speaker 2>other people, other organisms around that are recipients of our

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<v Speaker 2>decisions to garden. And maybe that's a neighbor, maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>is wildlife. But you know, overachieving plants benefit more than

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<v Speaker 2>just us.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the road you're going down there, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to add that to the overachieving description of plants

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<v Speaker 1>because as opposed to the plant having its time in

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<v Speaker 1>the sun and receiving plot, it's on you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>robust growth and its beauty. Is it giving back? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a great There's many ways to look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it could be something like, of course, a

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<v Speaker 2>vegetable garden you're getting produced. It could be cut flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be multiple seasons of interest. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an overachiever has to do perform highly but also give

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>More, give something back. I love that, you know a

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<v Speaker 1>plant that I consider an overachiever and I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sound like a broken record here, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know how much I love ornamental grasses. But something like

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<v Speaker 1>graceful grass is skyrocket. It's a fountain grass penacetum. The

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<v Speaker 1>plumes are sterile so it doesn't become invasive. But boy

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<v Speaker 1>does it work for you provide color. And yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this past fall, the birds all over the inflorescence.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had a strong feeling that ornamental grasses

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<v Speaker 2>would come up in the Overachievers show, not just because

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<v Speaker 2>I know how much you like them, but because they

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<v Speaker 2>are a perfect example. There are few other plants, well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually there's kind of a lot, but that require so little.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, once you plant that ornamental grass, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing you need to do is cut it

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<v Speaker 2>back in spring. Yeah, and you know it doesn't need water,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't need any fussing. You can divide it if

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Wouldn't recommend it. Not really a fun job,

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<v Speaker 2>So plant those properly and let it let them be.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean that's exactly what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>All that impact, those big robust presents, the sound, It

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<v Speaker 2>provides habitat for all sorts of things. It provides nesting

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<v Speaker 2>material for birds and you don't lift a finger and

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<v Speaker 2>you look like a garden rock star. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's my direction here because you look at

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<v Speaker 1>for example, panicum switch grass, a North American native plant,

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<v Speaker 1>a prairie grass so to speak. You wontn't expect much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just grass, okay, But you take cultivars like totem

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<v Speaker 1>Pole or Niagara Falls or shy in Sky. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>overachiever because it delivers, in my opinion, far more than

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<v Speaker 1>what you expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, especially if you're buying just a little one gallon

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<v Speaker 2>plant in spring. You you're going to need to have

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<v Speaker 2>a little faith. But you know that's where shows like

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<v Speaker 2>Gardening simplified the Internet, all of these places where you

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<v Speaker 2>can do your research and find out. So you are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more trust trusting in that plant when you

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<v Speaker 2>see it maybe looking you know, all green like a gumfrina,

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<v Speaker 2>or a little bit small and wimpy like a panicum

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a warm season grass and when you're shopping

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden center hasn't really had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>do its thing yet exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course in the mixed Stacey, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, well, there are you know, in life,

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<v Speaker 1>there are early bloomers and there are late bloomers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But in again, in the garden industry today, there are

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<v Speaker 1>many wonderful cultivars that I'm you would classify as rebloomers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can consider the rebloomers also as overachieved.

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<v Speaker 2>I think reblooming is a classic example of what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be an overachiever. And you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>all that uncommon in nature. It's just that what plant

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<v Speaker 2>breeders have done is identified individual plants that have some

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<v Speaker 2>capacity for rebloom and then worked with that to bring

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<v Speaker 2>more of those genes out. And yeah, why do people

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<v Speaker 2>mostly start gardening flowers? Everyone wants more flowers. You get

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<v Speaker 2>a reblooming shrub like bloomerang Wilac or double play Doozy spireea,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an overachiever.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Or the plants that basically are surprised. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you buy a little pugster bud lea in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>center and then by the time you get to August,

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<v Speaker 1>little plant, the size of those blooms are unreal. It

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<v Speaker 1>causes me to believe the plants an overachiever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, And that reminds me of other bulbs

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<v Speaker 2>are good overachievers too, right, because by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>come out in spring, you very well may have forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>that you planted that, And then all of the sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>just when you need at most amazing flowers pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>zero care, and you feel real good about having planted them,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for their costs, because you can't get plants much

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<v Speaker 2>lower cost than a bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to raise the bar on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see how Stacey ties this all together and

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<v Speaker 1>plants on trial. That's coming up next here on the

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where the theme of

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<v Speaker 2>today is overachievers. And recently, Rick and I did something

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than just your standard edition of

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<v Speaker 2>the Gardening Simplified Show. We went out and filmed a winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Garden tour in the dead of winter.

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<v Speaker 2>In the dead of winter. Now the snow was still present.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, you know, a little bit warmer than it

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<v Speaker 2>had been the week we got all that snow where

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<v Speaker 2>we had you know, single digit temperatures, but still a

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<v Speaker 2>little too snowy trapes all over the garden like we

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<v Speaker 2>might have hoped to have done. But it's still a

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<v Speaker 2>good garden tour. You can kind of get a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of some cool stuff going on in the garden right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, maybe a little bit of a cure

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<v Speaker 2>for cabin fever. So please do check us out on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube that is where the garden tour is posted, and

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<v Speaker 2>check out what's what's kicking in the trail gardens in February.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we're practicing what we preach, right, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty five days out of.

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<v Speaker 2>The year exactly. So since we're talking overachievers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me, of course, knowing you know pretty

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<v Speaker 2>well almost all of the three hundred and thirty some

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<v Speaker 2>proven winters color choice shrubs, hard for me to pick

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<v Speaker 2>just one. So I wanted to do something a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different for plants on Trial. Today, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do plants on trial Overachievers, Speed round fun and so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to name a category, and Rick and I

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<v Speaker 2>an overachiever is in each of these categories. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can make a full plant list. If you want a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of overachieving flowering shrubs and evergreens in your garden,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be it. So we're kicking it

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<v Speaker 2>off overachiever foliage.

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<v Speaker 1>Shrub Midnight Sun with you, Youla.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's mine too, Hey, I mean sure, So when

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<v Speaker 2>both of us pick one, you know it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be good, right it is and I do. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this for every single plant because we only

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<v Speaker 2>have ten minutes on radio. But Midnight Sun is a

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<v Speaker 2>newer Whygela. And of course most people think of why

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<v Speaker 2>Gila as flowering plants, which they are. They have lovely

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<v Speaker 2>flowers in spring and attract butterflies or butterflies and hummingbirds,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's really cool. But Midnight Sun is primarily a

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<v Speaker 2>foliage wigela, and when you see it in spring, this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those plants you need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>little faith in, kind of just like a dwarf green

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<v Speaker 2>whitella with pink flowers, and you're like, okay, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You see the picture on the tag, it shows it

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<v Speaker 2>all colorful. You think, okay, well maybe that's in fall.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, what happens with this waigela is that as

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<v Speaker 2>summer develops and goes on, it turns all sorts of colors.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to wait until fall. The warmer it gets,

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<v Speaker 2>know you fell in love seeing it here around the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's around the studio at the garden center. Love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is such an amazing foliage plant. And it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>and small, so anyone has a room for it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight sun Wijella overachiever flowering shrub.

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<v Speaker 1>For many reasons, I tea fizzy Miizzy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's an interesting trip now. I think that flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>fragrant flowers are always a good overachiever aspect, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is a plant with lots of multiple seasons of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool plant and very different look. My overachiever flowering

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<v Speaker 2>shrub is double play doozy because I have to say

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<v Speaker 2>that although I could have said steady Eddie viburnum in

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<v Speaker 2>my time in the industry. I don't think that any

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<v Speaker 2>two flowering shrubs can compare to double Play Doozy and

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<v Speaker 2>Steady Eddie Viburnum for their sheer ability to rebloom. You

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<v Speaker 2>know some reblooming shrubs they amazing in spring and then

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<v Speaker 2>you just kind of get a little bit of flowers

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<v Speaker 2>later in the season. These two plants rebloom almost to

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<v Speaker 2>the up to the level of their first bloom. Both

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<v Speaker 2>of them come from doctor Tom Rainey at North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>State University, a truly innovative plant breeder. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to do much and you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>more flowers. I cannot recommend much better than those two,

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<v Speaker 2>especially so overachieving Hydrangea. What's your choice?

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<v Speaker 1>Both you and Adriana caused me to fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with this plant as we walk through the garden. Little

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<v Speaker 1>lime Punch panicle great choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I was definitely torn between Little Lime Punch myself and

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<v Speaker 2>the one that I picked, which is Let's Dance Skyview Hydrangea.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason that I picked Let's Dance, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>little Lime Punch is a panicle Hydrangea, so very easy

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<v Speaker 2>to grow, very easy, very reliable, hardy, heat tolerant. People

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<v Speaker 2>are somewhat familiar with that with those types of hydrangeas,

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<v Speaker 2>but with hydrange of Macrophilla, the big leaf hydrangeas, with

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<v Speaker 2>the blue or pink or purple flowers. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>people have had so much disappointment with conventional varieties. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>dance sky View Hydrangea is probably one of the first,

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<v Speaker 2>along with Let's stance, can do big leaf ree blooming

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<v Speaker 2>hydrangeas that won't disappoint you. We're looking. We've developed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>increased bud hardiness so they're less likely to get cold

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<v Speaker 2>damaged in winter. Amazing color and the ability to bloom

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up and down the stem so that

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<v Speaker 2>if some well intentioned but wrong person cuts it back

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<v Speaker 2>or it gets damaged by deer or gets winter cold damage,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have flower buds at the base to get bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really one of the very first reblooming big

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<v Speaker 2>leaf hydranges that won't disappoint you. Overachieving rose so when

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<v Speaker 2>it was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many great roses. But I'm gonna say, at

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<v Speaker 1>last rose.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, at last bi too. Yeah, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>truth is that with all of the proven winners color

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<v Speaker 2>trace roses, we are looking for overachieving. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you just take regular roses as a baseline, they've

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<v Speaker 2>already got fabulous flowers, most of them have great fragrance,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were already looking for plants that do more

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<v Speaker 2>than that standard. So pretty much all of our roses

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<v Speaker 2>are overachievers. You can take your pick for color application,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did pick it last as well because people

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<v Speaker 2>love it. It's a good size, super healthy, clean foliage,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful fragrant flowers, and just a stunning easy to grow roses.

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<v Speaker 1>And like any overachiever, it rose to the os.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sure did all right. Overachieving native shrub.

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<v Speaker 1>This was easy for me. Durvilla Kodiak orange.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, I'm not surprised you picked a durvilla.

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<v Speaker 2>De Villa's are great, and we do have so many

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<v Speaker 2>amazing durvillas. I was tempted to include a Durvilla here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, but I ended up going with a plant

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<v Speaker 2>that is near and dear to my heart in my garden,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is Gatsby pink oak leaf hydrange.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean a couple of things about that plant

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<v Speaker 2>that I love, amazing fall color. It's also a reblooming

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<v Speaker 2>oak leaf hydrangeas, So again this isn't going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of those that goes back to that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>early summer bloom. But they continue to put out fresh

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<v Speaker 2>flowers through the season and they turn pink when they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as they age, so you get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of color, a lot of flowers. Pollinators love it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you get the fall color, beautiful peeling cinnamon bark

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<v Speaker 2>in the winter, and of course with the kodiak or villas,

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<v Speaker 2>you get amazing foliage that you really don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>lift a finger to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>Gorgeously.

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<v Speaker 2>They can take pretty much whatever you throw at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Overachieving heat tolerantce shrub for our warm climate, peeps.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunny Boulevard, Saint John's hypeer.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that is a great plant. I love its

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<v Speaker 2>nice rounded habit. I pick jazz Hands Bowl, Laura petalum

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<v Speaker 2>and Laura Petulum. Of course, anyone from the South can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you it's as ubiquitous as something like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Barberry is up here and they love it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love jazz Hands Bold because everything about it is bigger,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love big plants, the foliage is bigger, the

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<v Speaker 2>flowers are bigger, and these actually do keep their foliage

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<v Speaker 2>color through the season, so overachieving in that way as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But again only hardy to about us zone eight, so

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<v Speaker 2>that one is especially for you all in warm climates.

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<v Speaker 2>Overachieving hardy shrub or cold tolerance.

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<v Speaker 1>Shrub hardiness easy for me, tough stuff, top fun reblooming

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<v Speaker 1>mountain hydrat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's such a good choice. That's not where my

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<v Speaker 2>brain went at all with this one, but that is

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent pick. I picked ginger wine nine bark because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nine barks are very much like your durvilla

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<v Speaker 2>as a choice, great foliage color, easy to grow, really

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<v Speaker 2>don't require any effort. But some older varieties of colorful

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<v Speaker 2>Physocarpus or nine bark do you get powdery mildew. This

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<v Speaker 2>one is very very powdery mildy resistance, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>attest to that because I do abuse it in my garden,

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<v Speaker 2>not getting a lot of water space closely, and it

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<v Speaker 2>does not get powdery mildew. So a really beautiful plant,

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<v Speaker 2>but hardy down to USC zone three and only heat

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<v Speaker 2>tolerant through about USDA zone seven. Overachieving shrub with berries.

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<v Speaker 1>If you walk by it in the garden center and spring,

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<v Speaker 1>you might just walk right past it. But pearl glam caliicarpa.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that is such a good choice. I love that plant.

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<v Speaker 2>So people know calicarpa, they know those amazing purple berries

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<v Speaker 2>if they've seen them. And what pearlglam adds into it

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<v Speaker 2>is beautiful, dark, purply black foliage for just an amazing look.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I picked proudberry simp carpus for this one myself, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's a plant that I've added to my garden within

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<v Speaker 2>the last two or three years. I always liked it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, you know how it is, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to grow it to know it. Once it was in

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<v Speaker 2>my garden, fell in love just that bright pink berry

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<v Speaker 2>that just kept getting brighter and brighter as fall went on.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing it right out my kitchen window made me smile

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<v Speaker 2>every time overachieving fall foliage.

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<v Speaker 1>Shrub easy for me. Legend of the fall Father you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that was a good choice. I was definitely split

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<v Speaker 2>on the father Gillas, such a beautiful plant native. I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going with brandywine viburnum for myself, also a

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<v Speaker 2>negative shrub, but I picked brandywine over the father gilla,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it does have fabulous fall color because with

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<v Speaker 2>the brandywine you get the berries on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the contrast between the super colorful berries and the

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<v Speaker 2>super colorful foliage can't beat that. All right, we have

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<v Speaker 2>time for one more overachieving evergreen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking overachievers. It's a tie for me between tater

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<v Speaker 1>tot and full speed a hedge arbor ice.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going with a small and a tall choice

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<v Speaker 2>small and well, everybody does love tater Tot for the

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<v Speaker 2>name and its diminutive stature. My choice is peasley pop Lukothowe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went with a broad leaf evergreen here, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is a plant that you will be able to

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<v Speaker 2>see in our garden tour on YouTube, see what it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like in the middle of winter, and see one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why I feel like it is an

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<v Speaker 2>over achiever. So wow, that was a lot. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>missed any of those plants, they're going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>our show notes at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's our little quick list of overachieving shrubs that you

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<v Speaker 2>can use to make better decisions in your landscape this season.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to be opening up

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<v Speaker 2>to ten years to ensure they outperform what's already on

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<v Speaker 2>Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, one of the ways that we're simplifying

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<v Speaker 2>gardening for you today is telling you are overachieving plants,

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<v Speaker 2>Plants that don't require very much but do a whole

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot. And you know that can mean a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things. It can mean more flowers, that

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<v Speaker 2>can mean better foliage color. It can mean reblooming, attracting

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of pollinators. And you know, in our illustrious

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<v Speaker 2>careers here, we've had the good fortune to come across

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different overachieving plants, and so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we are sharing with you today. If you missed anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you can catch us on YouTube on your favorite podcast platform,

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<v Speaker 2>or of course, we'll also put some stuff in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes at Gardening Simplified on air dot com. And

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<v Speaker 2>while you are at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com, you

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<v Speaker 2>can also write us with your gardening questions. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's still early, but you know, some of us

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<v Speaker 2>start itching to get out there and maybe remember questions

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<v Speaker 2>that have come up over the season, or have questions

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<v Speaker 2>about what's to come. So don't hesitate to reach out,

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<v Speaker 2>and we would be happy to help. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>question that I think is a good one that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people struggle with, especially if they don't really

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<v Speaker 2>consider themselves much of a gardener. Sylvia writes that she

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<v Speaker 2>is hosting her daughter's wedding in June at her home

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia, Zone seven B. She says she's not a gardener,

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<v Speaker 2>but would love to add some color and festivity with

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<v Speaker 2>foolproof annuals that are vigorous bloomers. They only need to

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<v Speaker 2>look great on that one day. Well, we will give

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<v Speaker 2>you overachievers that will look great beyond that one day.

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<v Speaker 2>And she wants any suggestions for white or pale, understated

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<v Speaker 2>color annual flowers, and she's going to put them into

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<v Speaker 2>some large planters.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I have an idea for Sylvia. I hosted

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<v Speaker 1>a backyard wedding in my backyard for my daughter Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>and her wedding also was in the month of June.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the garden center and I purchased

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<v Speaker 1>diamond frost Euphorbia.

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<v Speaker 2>That was definitely on my list to recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly easy to grow. Sylvia mentions here, she's not

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<v Speaker 1>a gardener, that's fine, this plant is fool proof. I

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<v Speaker 1>planted them up into eight inch and ten inch clay pots.

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<v Speaker 1>Claypots are relatively inexpensive, and essentially grew them on, watching

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<v Speaker 1>for frost early, but grew them on and then use

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<v Speaker 1>them in the center of the tables out in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gorgeous by June, beautiful, tiny little white flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of them. And then the cool thing was it

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't much of an investment for me, So after

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding I could have people just take them home

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<v Speaker 1>with them. So diamond frost Euphorbia is one suggestion. The

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<v Speaker 1>other that I have would be the proven Winner's super Beinas.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a white Superbina and I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are the has come in so many different colors.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I was thinking a lot when I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about Sylvia's question, a lot about the timing,

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<v Speaker 2>because early June, even though you're in Virginia, which is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously much warmer than us here in Michigan, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a little bit of a funny time because you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't really accumulated enough heat. For certain annuals that thrive

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<v Speaker 2>in the heat, like Selvy or something, it's really get

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<v Speaker 2>going because it's still a little bit early, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you pick something that is too much of a

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<v Speaker 2>cool season annual, it's starting to get a little too

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<v Speaker 2>warm for them. So my recommendation for you, Sylvia, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you said you're not really a gardener, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you can find, you know, kind of a smaller garden

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<v Speaker 2>center near you, I would talk to the owner and

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<v Speaker 2>ask them or talk to, you know, the purchasing person

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<v Speaker 2>and see if they can order some stuff in for

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<v Speaker 2>you about three two to three weeks before the wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're getting it fresh from the grower, that

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<v Speaker 2>means it's been amply fertilized. You know, some annuals are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a little bit on the smaller side,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're getting them fresh, then they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be ready for sale. That two week window, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not really gonna have to worry too much about

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to fertilize them. They'll kind of again be riding

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<v Speaker 2>the high of what they were getting at the grower,

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<v Speaker 2>and that way you don't have to stress over what

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<v Speaker 2>the plants are looking like because you're just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>not quite all the way to summer, but not quite

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<v Speaker 2>all the way past spring, even in Virginia. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would also say definitely go to the proven Winner's website.

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<v Speaker 2>You can search by plant type annual. You can search

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<v Speaker 2>by color. I put in white just to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see what they had, and the great thing is that

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<v Speaker 2>they do include things that just have some white in them.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also search for pink, purple and look for

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<v Speaker 2>those paler you know, pinks and lavenders, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>make a list of stuff that you want. The other

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<v Speaker 2>thing you can do if you're able to find a

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<v Speaker 2>garden center who will work with you. And again, if

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<v Speaker 2>you stick to those smaller places, you might find someone

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<v Speaker 2>who you can talk to and just order stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>for you and just tell them you want a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of white flowers, you know. But I do think diamond

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<v Speaker 2>frost is a great choice. I think super venas are

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<v Speaker 2>all to a great choice. They do tend to appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more heat, so you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure they look good when you put them in

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not really going to get a chance to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are just so so many choices, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, calculating back even in Virginia, I'll bet that

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day weekend is still a pretty hop in garden

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<v Speaker 2>center weekend. So they should have tons and tons of

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<v Speaker 2>fresh material that would put you right in that two

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<v Speaker 2>week window. So if you make a point of going

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<v Speaker 2>shopping Memorial Day weekend, I think anything that you see

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<v Speaker 2>then is probably going to look just as good then

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<v Speaker 2>is just as good for your wedding as it does

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<v Speaker 2>at the garden center. And don't forget to look up

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden center hanging baskets. Rick loves to take

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<v Speaker 2>hanging baskets and put them in containers. A great way

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<v Speaker 2>to get a ton of interest from just one single planting.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the patio containers, scour the garden center, don't

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<v Speaker 2>just look at the little four inch stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with your Stacey. Throughout the years in

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<v Speaker 1>the garden center in June, you have lot of weddings,

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<v Speaker 1>you have graduations, and many people would purchase hanging baskets

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<v Speaker 1>which are lush by that time and take the hangars

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<v Speaker 1>off them and use them as potted plants. Supertuna Mini

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<v Speaker 1>Vista white is also a fabulous choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of the supertunias should be a great choice and

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<v Speaker 2>would look absolutely spectacular at that time of year. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can see, we have a lot of suggestions.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you think about it and the fun of day,

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<v Speaker 2>send us the pictures of what you do. We would

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<v Speaker 2>love to share those with our listeners. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>a question from Mary Lou. She says, I have an

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<v Speaker 2>area my landscape where my plants are struggling. I've added

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<v Speaker 2>mulch over the years, but the soil remains mostly clay

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<v Speaker 2>below the surface. I'm considering heading several inches of good

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<v Speaker 2>soil and mult to the top. And I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>this will smother the perennials. How much is too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for all the gardening advice that you give.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think don't add on to the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it?

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<v Speaker 1>My opinion, I agree do it. If we're talking already

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<v Speaker 1>here about adding more culture over the years and clay soil,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to create problems. Mulch needs to be stirred.

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<v Speaker 1>But in addition to that, if it starts to build

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<v Speaker 1>on itself, you're going to create problems for those plants,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a clay soil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know basically what would happen, So you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just PLoP it on top, because what happens then

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<v Speaker 2>is that you have two different layers with totally different

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<v Speaker 2>porosity or different levels of air space in between the particles.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether that particle is topsoil or whether it's mulch, or

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's your clay and the mulch and the top soil,

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<v Speaker 2>they have high porosity, they have a lot of space

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<v Speaker 2>in between their particles. Clay has very little space. So

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<v Speaker 2>what that means is those top layers can hold a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of water and once gravity starts to take its toll,

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<v Speaker 2>and that water tries to drain down. It's like hitting

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<v Speaker 2>a wall. Basically, all those all that airspace that's now

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<v Speaker 2>filled with water just cannot drain and so you end

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<v Speaker 2>up with poor drainage. You need to break that surfa

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<v Speaker 2>his tension. You certainly, if you already have perennials in there,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't obviously just you know, dig it in, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can scratch up the mulch. You can sprinkle in

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<v Speaker 2>some composts. I would do composts probably rather than top soil,

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<v Speaker 2>because composts will actually improve the texture of the clay soil,

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<v Speaker 2>and just try to do it kind of around your

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<v Speaker 2>perennials rather than over them. Definitely try not to cover them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say how much is too much? I

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<v Speaker 2>would do no more than two to three inches of material.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a perfect description of the issues Stacey, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing to add except an exclamation point, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is aeration. The plants are struggling. In my opinion, aeration.

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<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, yeah, sometimes you need to get the because

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<v Speaker 2>roots need air. People think that they just need water,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do actually need air.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate writes to us these berry poppins hollies were planted

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, and this year I was the first

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<v Speaker 1>year they were loaded with berries, so I was so thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I saw the leaves turn kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>grayish on some branches and then blacken, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the berries turn brown. This past year I slacked on

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<v Speaker 1>the soil acid of fire, so I'm determined to correct that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure if something else is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, Kate, it was not the soil acidifier, don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about that if you know. We actually in the

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<v Speaker 2>last episode we talked a bit about soil pH and

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<v Speaker 2>how that impacts plants. But usually what you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see if pH is an issue is the foliage looks sickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not really it's not really going to impact the

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<v Speaker 2>berries because you know they've already been set. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that what you're seeing, Kate did send some pictures is

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<v Speaker 2>just normal aging of the berries. Because the winterberry hollies,

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<v Speaker 2>as they undergo multiple freezing thaw cycles, they just start

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of go brown. That don't all keep that

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<v Speaker 2>red bright red color all through the winter. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you were to go hiking someplace where there are wild

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<v Speaker 2>winterberry hollies growing, which is pretty abundant here in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm assuming throughout the Midwest you're gonna see the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. So I even though it is a bit unsightly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really a cause for concern. This is pretty

601
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<v Speaker 2>normal for the plants to do that, especially in winter again,

602
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<v Speaker 2>multiple freeze and thaw cycles. It just kind of makes

603
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<v Speaker 2>them a little bit mushy. You know, if they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>naturally kind of go brown or get eaten, they'd come

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<v Speaker 2>into spring red and they don't. Sure, so not really

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<v Speaker 2>a huge cause for concern. Kate. If you feel they do,

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<v Speaker 2>you need soilist at a fire, go ahead and do

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<v Speaker 2>that this spring. But it probably won't impact those berries

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<v Speaker 2>at all. But enjoy your berry poppins, winterbury holly another overachiever.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a little break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be talking more over achieving plants, so please

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<v Speaker 1>Com Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show for our

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<v Speaker 1>branching news segment Overachievers two point zero and Stacy. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to overachieving Winter interest. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the old horticultural joke about being voted most likely

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<v Speaker 1>to recede by your class or something like that. Overachieving

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<v Speaker 1>winter interest. I'm really curious what plant you picked?

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<v Speaker 2>The plant that I picked for overachieving Winter Interest. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a toss up between Arctic fire red red twig

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<v Speaker 2>dogwood and Arctic fire yellow red twig dogwood, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do love them both. You know, the red red twig

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<v Speaker 2>dogwood pretty ubiquitous, but it's one of those plants that,

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<v Speaker 2>again it requires so little and when it's properly cited

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<v Speaker 2>in a way where it pops in the landscape, you

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<v Speaker 2>are just so grateful for that bright, cheerful color. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're super low maintenance and you know, usually inexpensive, so endurable.

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<v Speaker 2>There do you're resistant, They can grow in sun or shade.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just a versatile, great plant.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you have, great choice? I picked black hat rhododendron.

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<v Speaker 1>I just find it interesting in the landscape in winter

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<v Speaker 1>the way the leaves curl up when it gets super cold,

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<v Speaker 1>the buds which show us the promise of spring. That plant,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, overperformed in my landscape and is an overachiever.

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<v Speaker 2>What about over achieving trees? You got one handy for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be juneberry.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's so true. Such a great plant also known

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<v Speaker 2>as amlankir or service berry or saskatoon. One of those

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<v Speaker 2>plants with lots and lots of common names. But I

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<v Speaker 2>agree that is one of those plants that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful in every season. It has edible fruits. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I love them as well. Of course, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>tempting to say Temple of Bloom, and that is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the plants that I chose for my own landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I didn't have dear, I would say my

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<v Speaker 2>dream overachiever is a nice crabapple with white flowers and

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<v Speaker 2>big fruits. Love crab apples, just can't beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. You know. Another overachiever on my list, Stacey would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be again thinking about where I came from

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<v Speaker 1>and years ago in the garden center to now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the new cultivars of clematis. Something like sweet

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<v Speaker 1>summer love. I look at a plant like that as

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<v Speaker 1>an over achiever. And then of course when we get

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<v Speaker 1>into things like perennials or bulbs, eucumus, pineapple lily, crowning glory. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course this year there's touch of blush,

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<v Speaker 1>false sunflower, Heliopsis, the uskin sun or Tuscan gold. I

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<v Speaker 1>find those to be over achievers.

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<v Speaker 2>They really are. I mean, those things you can't stop

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<v Speaker 2>them from blooming. They just go and go and go

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<v Speaker 2>and go. And you know, a lot of people I

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<v Speaker 2>think who have grown perennials and flowers have had issues

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<v Speaker 2>with aphids. You know, certain older varieties, they just get

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<v Speaker 2>covered with aphids in summer. It's kind of gross. I

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<v Speaker 2>have never had that issue with Tuscan son.

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<v Speaker 1>Same here. Yeah, that's great, Hugh Kuras. Of course, there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many different cultivars, varieties, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Dolce apple twist is one I love because

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<v Speaker 1>of the leaf color changes throughout the season. So I

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<v Speaker 1>find that one is an overachiever. Also, Pyromania Nipofia love those, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love those great varieties that are available. Stacy. I

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<v Speaker 1>would think when it comes to perennials. You would probably

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<v Speaker 1>have summerrific rose mallow on your list or.

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<v Speaker 2>Not, you know, I would. I want to pre where

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<v Speaker 2>I go into that. I want to briefly go back

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<v Speaker 2>to your hugra thing. Another interesting thing about hugro Of

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<v Speaker 2>course everyone thinks of them as foliage plants, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them, especially the newer varieties, have really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>flowers as well. And I had always been told that

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<v Speaker 2>hukara attract hummingbirds, and I was like, whatever, They're so

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<v Speaker 2>close to the ground, they got those tiny little flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw it for myself, and they actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have, especially the red flowered hugras, they

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<v Speaker 2>will attract hummingbirds. And that is a great overachiever quality

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But you know what you said at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show about an overachiever is a plant

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<v Speaker 2>that goes from you know, kind of extremely humble beginnings

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe not so humble and at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. And yeah, I think most perennials are like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's amazing to me. And I do love, love,

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<v Speaker 2>love the perennials in my yard that you walk out

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<v Speaker 2>on in April day and you're like, there is nothing there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then by the end of August you're dwarfed by

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<v Speaker 2>this ten foot tall plant and you're just like, how

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<v Speaker 2>did that happen? And I do feel that way about

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<v Speaker 2>the about the higbiscus, about the summarific hibiscus, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they have nothing. They're very late to emerge here in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even usually start to emerge until Memorial Day weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>so late in May, and then two months later you're like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>what just happened? You know, there's just tons of growth

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<v Speaker 2>and it's covered in flower buds, and yeah, they just

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<v Speaker 2>they're just such a celebration of the season. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that too about my about my Baptisias. Yes, another

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<v Speaker 2>plant that decadence. Yeah, I mean, they're just again, they

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<v Speaker 2>start out very humble and then you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>such incredible bloom. I love planting them near my patio

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<v Speaker 2>so I can sit out there on warm spring evenings

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<v Speaker 2>and watch the bees. Watching this is like you're probably like, okay, lady,

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<v Speaker 2>but watching the bees in the flowers of the Baptista

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<v Speaker 2>is really one of the most beautiful and interesting things

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<v Speaker 2>that I've ever seen in my life. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>having them at hand, so I can do that so.

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<v Speaker 1>Humble beginnings when it's small. I would suspect that you

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<v Speaker 1>also have on your list meant to be AGASTATCHI.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love agastaki. Yeah, yeah, that's another one too

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<v Speaker 2>that you know I have. I don't have that one

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<v Speaker 2>actually in my garden, but I do have a blue Boa,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of like the standard or blue Fortune.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are two similar varieties. And what I love about

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<v Speaker 2>those months of flower I mean you get about three

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<v Speaker 2>months of blooms absolutely covered in pollinators, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>big characteristic of being an overachiever for me. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just they're totally impervious to heat, drought, and deer, so

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<v Speaker 2>always important for my garden.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the size of the summerrific high biscus and

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<v Speaker 1>how early in the season they're you know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>off to a slow start. A plant i'd put in

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<v Speaker 1>that category that I consider an overachiever in shade is

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<v Speaker 1>sun king or railing. Doesn't look like much early in

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<v Speaker 1>my garden, but by the time we get to summer

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<v Speaker 1>in a shade garden, brilliant and big. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>an over I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know if there is anybody I've ever met who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't love that plant. We actually did a recent plant

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<v Speaker 2>panel episode of our plant recommendation panel where that plant

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<v Speaker 2>came up and everyone else on the plant panel was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that plant, and that is It's definitely one

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<v Speaker 2>that if people see it at the garden Center they're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like meh. But you need to have

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<v Speaker 2>faith in that one, especially if you have shade and

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<v Speaker 2>it needs some brightening up. It is a really unique

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<v Speaker 2>plant and we're just really lucky to have it if

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<v Speaker 2>you have shade. For interest in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Shade, I'm fascinated how by in April. There are certain

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<v Speaker 1>annuals in the garden Center I mentioned, you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>like Verbina nariensis medior shower, or something like a Scavola

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<v Speaker 1>Gomfrina's Truffle of Pink. Gomfrina is a great example. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might look at Gomfrina's in early spring and think, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big time overachiever. By the time you

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<v Speaker 1>get to summer, the blooms just keep coming and it

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<v Speaker 1>stands up to heat and conditions like you would not believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love plants like that. Lobularia snow princess is

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<v Speaker 1>another one. You know, we used to have had to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the sweet alyssum that would melt out in

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<v Speaker 1>the summertime. Not anymore. What a great plant.

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<v Speaker 2>They have such great fragrance on that. I love the

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<v Speaker 2>fragrance of a lissum on a warm summer day.

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<v Speaker 1>In herbs. I consider chives and a regano to be overachievers,

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<v Speaker 1>and also garlic. All three. Now with oregano, it comes

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<v Speaker 1>back year after year. And I have a regano in

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<v Speaker 1>my yard that I don't harvest, but rather I let

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<v Speaker 1>it go to flower, and it's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an over covered in pollinators. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny that you mentioned that, because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a regino in my yard. Itself sows abundantly,

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<v Speaker 2>and as we've been dealing with all of the snow lately,

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<v Speaker 2>I've realized how we're spreading it around, because it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of grows on the edge of a bed or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and then you shovel and then you pick

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<v Speaker 2>up an old a regno seedhead, and then next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you've got a regino in a new spot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do love it, and I do harvest it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do let it go to flower because I

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<v Speaker 2>love how covered it gets in pollinators when it's in flower,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, who doesn't love to have a fragrant

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<v Speaker 2>oregano rather than some you know, nasty meat you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. Exactly, It readily out competes the weeds

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<v Speaker 2>in my property and I love that about it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be on that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an overachiever. And you know, I could go on

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<v Speaker 1>and on, and I'm sure you could too, Stacy. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we talk about, for example, an early bloomer hellabores,

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<v Speaker 1>I would consider a hellibore to be an overachiever. It

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<v Speaker 1>laughs at the snow in the cold, and it blooms

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<v Speaker 1>early and pushes through and you think, ah, this plant's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gnarrowly, not so beautiful, and boom just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And another plant you need to have a little faith

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<v Speaker 2>in because they do bloom so early. When most people

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<v Speaker 2>are at the garden center, they're done flowering. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you have a pot with you know, maybe a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of leaves in it, because they don't love the growing

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<v Speaker 2>environment of the nursery. They definitely are much happier in

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. But if you take the risk on a helliboar,

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<v Speaker 2>you will be so glad that you did when it

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<v Speaker 2>is looking amazing in your garden in you know, March

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<v Speaker 2>or April, and everything else is still sleepy.

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<v Speaker 1>So many plants, so a little time.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I'd love to keep going, especially in February.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good way to pass February thinking and dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>about the overachievers in your garden. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any overachievers in your gardener, maybe you have a

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<v Speaker 2>different overachiever you'd like to tell us about. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at our list, and we could all

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<v Speaker 2>use a little more overachievers in our horticultural life. So

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<v Speaker 2>on that note, we have to bid you farewell for

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<v Speaker 2>this week. We want to thank you so so very

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<v Speaker 2>much for listening. Thank you Rick for joining me today,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Adriana for doing it all and making it

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<v Speaker 2>happen behind the scenes. And we hope everyone has a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful week ahead.
