Speaker 1: So it's January eighth, twenty twenty six, allegedly according to
Speaker 1: that thing we call a calendar. And I've gone live
Speaker 1: here on a Thursday Thursday, about sixteen minutes after the
Speaker 1: hour of eight pm Eastern, and I meant to go
Speaker 1: live a little earlier, but it took a few minutes
Speaker 1: to do this or that, and nobody's really keeping me
Speaker 1: to a clock. And lately, I haven't done that many episodes,
Speaker 1: so you're getting extra this week, and finally this will
Speaker 1: make it four if we get through the Friday show
Speaker 1: and one piece, but you know, one piece is an
Speaker 1: assumption lately with me. Anyway, I got somebody with me
Speaker 1: that has been requested that I've been looking forward to
Speaker 1: and in fact was asking to join me before I
Speaker 1: went to Dallas and all that, you know, nightmare ensued.
Speaker 1: But quite frankly, it's better that we waited until now,
Speaker 1: cause instantaneously we're gonna be able to cover two seasons
Speaker 1: of South Park, which rapidly emerged, you know, from the
Speaker 1: multi billion dollar deal over at Comedy Central. And I'm
Speaker 1: really happy to have a guy who hasn't been all
Speaker 1: that busy lately in the content world because he's been
Speaker 1: busy personally. Pierce redmin Porkins back with me, and I'm
Speaker 1: so glad, of course, go to Porkins Policy review dot com.
Speaker 2: I think the website's still up right, Pier.
Speaker 1: Theoretically, theoretically, everything is theoretical at this point. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you with me. We haven't heard
Speaker 1: from you in a while. So let's start off with
Speaker 1: the most obvious question before we get into a deep
Speaker 1: dive on South Park season twenty seven and twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to skip over the politics of the
Speaker 2: day today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna gep over the news because you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just take a quick look at the headlines from
Speaker 1: my AP email that I get, which usually gives me
Speaker 1: a concise snapshot of the day's news, so to speak,
Speaker 1: AP headlines for the same day we're recording this, and I'll,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll include them in.
Speaker 2: The show notes live updates.
Speaker 1: State investigators say they can't access Ice shooting evidence after
Speaker 1: the FBI takes over the case. Minneapolis protesters vent their
Speaker 1: outrage after an ICE officer kills a woman. Yep, that happened,
Speaker 1: and it's still happening, and I reported on it last night.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to know about the rules for
Speaker 1: officers firing a at a moving vehicle. Now, AP is
Speaker 1: going to write an article telling you how that's really
Speaker 1: supposed to work, despite what you saw in the videotape, right,
Speaker 1: videotape talking about an outmoded sort of way of describing something. Okay, Grandpa,
Speaker 1: we will get off your lawn anyway. Judge blocks Trump
Speaker 1: administration from purging DEI related terms from the head start
Speaker 1: grant applicatations. Yeah, I paused for applause there. I know
Speaker 1: we don't get any but that's okay. The judge disqualifies
Speaker 1: the federal prosecutor in investigation into New York Attorney General
Speaker 1: Letitia James.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought that was already done. I guess not.
Speaker 1: Anyhow, Hochel and Madamie unveil the free childcare plan in
Speaker 1: New York City. White House is presenting Trump's balloon Project
Speaker 1: for a review months after construction began. Oh, excuse me,
Speaker 1: balloon project. I misspoke ballroom. But either way, does it
Speaker 1: matter clowns and their balloon animals? It is what it is.
Speaker 1: Keep watching Justice departments sues Connecticut and Arizona as part
Speaker 1: of an effort to get voter data from the states.
Speaker 2: So the state of the state is as usual and
Speaker 2: we're not covering none of it today.
Speaker 1: Like I said, south Park season twenty seven and twenty eight,
Speaker 1: that's the most recent ones, awfully controversial, and they decided
Speaker 1: to actually hit Trump, which they hadn't done for years
Speaker 1: since they introduced the disastrous characters switch and compilation character
Speaker 1: or composite of a Garrison becoming Trump temporarily, which they
Speaker 1: did not at During one of the episodes where you know,
Speaker 1: the town spoke decided to break down Garrison's door to
Speaker 1: be like, what the hell are you doing to our country?
Speaker 1: And he goes, hey, I'm sitting here watching White Lotus
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Go away.
Speaker 1: So that's how they wrote that out of the show.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, you know, first of all, Pierce, how you doing?
Speaker 1: But second, I mean, you know, how you doing with this?
Speaker 1: How you doing with everything? But I'll let you start
Speaker 1: off the South Park discussion for twenty seven and twenty
Speaker 1: eight because I got a lot to say and I've
Speaker 1: been holding it all back to do this with you,
Speaker 1: So go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well I'm good, Chuck, I'm glad to finally be doing
Speaker 3: this has been a long time in the making, many
Speaker 3: emails back and forth. I was just trying to I
Speaker 3: feel like we had must have had eight or nine
Speaker 3: emails just just setting this up, not even just talking
Speaker 3: about what wanting to do this. But good, I am.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed this season. I was, you know, I just
Speaker 3: had to kind of like remind myself of all the episodes.
Speaker 3: I think it was good. I didn't just from a
Speaker 3: like I don't know, a technical programming standpoint, I did
Speaker 3: not understand why it was two short seasons of five
Speaker 3: episodes that just seemed really bizarre. I don't understand, you know,
Speaker 3: how they've they went from doing I don't know, thirteen
Speaker 3: or more episodes in a season. I mean I think
Speaker 3: in the past they must have put out many more, right,
Speaker 3: and you know, still on the same kind of crazy schedule.
Speaker 4: So I didn't understand that. I didn't love that.
Speaker 2: But well, here's the wild thing.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's pause right there, because this is a serious consideration.
Speaker 1: You have two five episode seasons, which is completely bizarre
Speaker 1: and seems like it's the minimum and most minimum of
Speaker 1: work because it used to be twenty some odd and
Speaker 1: then when things went to the streaming platforms. It became
Speaker 1: the ten episode package, which a lot of television shows
Speaker 1: have now gone to, right, because it's just it's the
Speaker 1: new medium, it's.
Speaker 2: The way it is now.
Speaker 1: South Park still runs on Comedy Central, but is also
Speaker 1: part of streaming deals. And indeed, before this season even
Speaker 1: kicked off and the premiere episode happened, we got to
Speaker 1: hear that these guys are getting two billion dollars okay
Speaker 1: to deliver a certain amount of episodes. So let's rewind
Speaker 1: it back to there. They're getting multiple billions of dollars
Speaker 1: and some people thought they would get nothing. Because this
Speaker 1: is exactly at the same time that CBS and Paramount
Speaker 1: are struggling with guess what the whole you know what,
Speaker 1: they're canceling Cobert, they're giving into pressure from Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: so they're deciding to placate the administration, give in pay
Speaker 1: a fine or pay you know, their bribe money so
Speaker 1: that they can get a deal done to sell it
Speaker 1: to some of Trump's friends. That's you know, the big
Speaker 1: Paramount uh you know, chunk of the multimedia pie. And
Speaker 1: now there's this massive you know again, conglomeration happening where
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different media assets are coming together
Speaker 1: to form the you know, the various borg entities, if
Speaker 1: you will, of just sort of media in general. Right,
Speaker 1: So you got the news corporations combining with the streaming platforms,
Speaker 1: combining with the old school television assets combining, combining, combining
Speaker 1: with a movie company, et cetera. And now it's like
Speaker 1: a one stop shop for all sorts of entertainment. Plus
Speaker 1: we're gonna offer you various packages a la carte. Just
Speaker 1: keep paying us ten bucks ten bucks and you'll not
Speaker 1: even recognize yourself cutting the cord from a few years
Speaker 1: ago and.
Speaker 2: Get rid of your cable. Right.
Speaker 1: So there's that happening. And in the midst of this,
Speaker 1: South Park gets a two billion dollar deal. The creators
Speaker 1: of now in the past, they were renowned for having
Speaker 1: a one week let's get this straight, a one week
Speaker 1: turnaround from no episode to fully completed, arable episode, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight minutes for a thirty eight or
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes or twenty six minutes depending on format
Speaker 1: for a half hour alleged TV show. And they would
Speaker 1: turn these around fast in a week. And they were quick.
Speaker 1: They were the best at it. They only missed one
Speaker 1: deadline because the power went out, and like the whole
Speaker 1: state where they did the damn show. But other than that,
Speaker 1: they were always fast. They came up with stuff. Now
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. The quality of this program. It
Speaker 1: changed because you and I even sort of lost interest.
Speaker 1: We were starting to examine the seasons by season, right,
Speaker 1: and then the season sucked so bad that you and
Speaker 1: I were kind of like, there's nothing here to even discuss.
Speaker 1: This is like a shell of its former self. And
Speaker 1: the South Park creators even went on a social media
Speaker 1: campaign to get the show canceled, where they were, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those are they serious or not, which
Speaker 1: you're always asking with these two guys, Matt and Trey,
Speaker 1: where they were like hashtag cancel south Park. They wanted out,
Speaker 1: it seemed like. But then they dangled two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: And they've been through a couple of machinations regarding this
Speaker 1: with HBO and you know, the MTV networks and again
Speaker 1: the multimedia companies that are you know, trying to dip
Speaker 1: their fingers in it. And they made a deal to
Speaker 1: make you know, so many episodes with the streaming platform
Speaker 1: and simultaneously made a deal with what would ostensibly be
Speaker 1: separate company and did weird breakups of their seasons before this,
Speaker 1: and they still had a quick turnaround. And mind you,
Speaker 1: when you look at a show like Family Guy. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know this, Pierce, but when you look at
Speaker 1: a show like Family Guy, this is you know, real
Speaker 1: media information. When you're breaking it down, it takes them
Speaker 1: eighteen months to create that same half hour show. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know they were rapid, They were fast, and
Speaker 1: their jokes were fast paced up until a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago when some people argued that their writing got lazy,
Speaker 1: they were overpaid, and now they were being paid, you know,
Speaker 1: huge hundreds of millions of dollars from two different media
Speaker 1: companies to create one product. And people were like, ah,
Speaker 1: that's it, it's over with. You know, it's going to
Speaker 1: be crap. It's going to turn into the Simpsons where
Speaker 1: they just let it stay on the air but it's
Speaker 1: not really that interesting anymore, you know, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: then we come out of it and they go with
Speaker 1: the biggest deal ever two billion. I mean, who gets
Speaker 1: two billion dollars for a cartoon?
Speaker 3: So I want to say that it's it's two billion
Speaker 3: it's like it's a deal beyond just the their current
Speaker 3: TV show. I think there's movies or other other media projects.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is still like it's an insane amount
Speaker 3: of mind. I mean that's probably you know, the GDP
Speaker 3: of some small countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And it's billionaires.
Speaker 1: So these guys are billionaires off of the new contract.
Speaker 1: Plus you know, the other twenty five years they've been
Speaker 1: doing this because well almost thirty, right, because they started
Speaker 1: in ninety seven, you know, and this is thirty years
Speaker 1: of work. These guys have made a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And like I said, some people were saying, maybe they
Speaker 1: made too much money because there's no motivation left.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's strange because it's almost bipricaded here the motivation that
Speaker 1: we see happen because now it's like we're going to
Speaker 1: do the bare minimum. We're going to call this two
Speaker 1: seasons of South Park, even though it's ten episodes total, right,
Speaker 1: And like I said, at the same time, when the
Speaker 1: whole rest of the media company and the corporations that
Speaker 1: are paying them and promoting them, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 1: or giving in to the Trump administration and literally being
Speaker 1: bought by Ellipson and Friends, okay, which is now going
Speaker 1: to include TikTok and Netflix and everything. It's weird that
Speaker 1: they even keep these guys on because they're bashing the
Speaker 1: people that are, you know, getting bribed to not bash people.
Speaker 2: So that seemed to be a contradiction.
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, they start to pump these
Speaker 1: things out and it gets weird right away because remember
Speaker 1: the premiere was delayed, right, It was supposed to premiere
Speaker 1: on a certain date and they said, oh, sorry, we
Speaker 1: can't do it, and then people were speculating what was happening.
Speaker 1: So you remember all this too in the beginning of
Speaker 1: season twenty seven. M okay, So I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: recap everything.
Speaker 4: But what do you think I'm trying to remember?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I well, I guess, I mean, what
Speaker 3: did you think did you think it was? I thought
Speaker 3: it was okay, I thought it was probably I don't
Speaker 3: know that some of the previous Sea like, I can't
Speaker 3: even remember season twenty six really right, or twenty five.
Speaker 3: I didn't really remember either of those except for just
Speaker 3: sort of hating them.
Speaker 4: I thought this one was slightly better.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit it was certainly more focused Yeah,
Speaker 3: we were finally out of Randy's weed farm, which I
Speaker 3: was a welcome change.
Speaker 4: And I liked that they I mean, I liked that
Speaker 4: they went after Trump and particularly JD. Vance.
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, it's like I know that they
Speaker 3: had stayed away from it and they did the Garrison
Speaker 3: stuff which in the early, the early days, I liked that.
Speaker 3: I liked that whatever the first term of Trump deficted
Speaker 3: on South Park. I thought some of those were really funny.
Speaker 3: With the member barriers, I thought that was really clever.
Speaker 3: Uh and you know they were really kind.
Speaker 4: Of like hitting something. But I you know, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, he's become him and his adenustration and becomes so outrageous.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you noticed today that RFK Junior
Speaker 3: and others have literally done something from South Park and
Speaker 3: they flipped the food pyramid, which is the South Park.
Speaker 3: There's a whole episode of I think it's the Gluten
Speaker 3: Free Ebola where you know, they they they flip the
Speaker 3: food pyramid and they want everyone to be eating butter.
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, that's what.
Speaker 3: The uh you know, the White House and others have
Speaker 3: done is flip the food pyramids. So I mean it's
Speaker 3: it is outrageous.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I thought this one was like funny. I liked it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was there were times where I
Speaker 3: wish they went they went a little bit further with
Speaker 3: some of the critiques and and they were I didn't
Speaker 3: care so much about some of.
Speaker 5: The d.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like they could have really they couldn't have
Speaker 3: found of Pete has that more than they did. Like
Speaker 3: it was it was okay, but it wasn't. I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I was. I have mixed feelings about it.
Speaker 4: But overall, you looked that they they did take on
Speaker 4: a lot of.
Speaker 3: These these topics, although I don't think they quite succeeded.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What do you think, job, Well, here's what I see
Speaker 1: is that, uh, they finally returned to stacking things together,
Speaker 1: which they hadn't done for years, where there were multi
Speaker 1: layer jokes and there are multi layer jokes where I
Speaker 1: think it was a lot faster paced, The writing was thicker,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's because they turned to the
Speaker 1: two week turnaround, which was another weird development that seemed
Speaker 1: to happen in real time. It was sort of like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: we're now going to two weeks because we just couldn't
Speaker 1: get an episode done for the first time, not on
Speaker 1: time in a while, again even bringing up themselves the
Speaker 1: power outage. But then it became the way these things
Speaker 1: were going to be released is every two weeks, and
Speaker 1: you finally figure out that the reason for that is, well,
Speaker 1: they only got five episodes, so they got to spread
Speaker 1: them out. You know, how do you spread five episodes
Speaker 1: across ten weeks, Well, you release one every other week
Speaker 1: and you get people used to that, and they did
Speaker 1: that without being honest about it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: the writing got thicker. So I'm not sure if the
Speaker 1: change in pace for every two weeks was to give
Speaker 1: them more time to flesh things out or not, because
Speaker 1: it seemed like they were very much on time for
Speaker 1: what was topical, But at the same time they were
Speaker 1: planting other tropes so that these things won't just you know,
Speaker 1: become irrelevant when you stream them later. Although the callbacks
Speaker 1: to certain things like now basically transposing the Saddam Hussein
Speaker 1: character into Donald Trump is hilarious, you know, because that's
Speaker 1: the only character they ever turned around and used the
Speaker 1: guy's real head right that I remember, at least, I mean,
Speaker 1: they did it to what he called the guy from
Speaker 1: night Rider. What's his name again, remember the guy who
Speaker 1: was like, oh Hasselhoff, Right, they did that to him
Speaker 1: in the first season, right, they put him on Garrison's
Speaker 1: body after he had the nose job. But outside of that,
Speaker 1: they never had a running character that acted and did
Speaker 1: the whole weird facial shift thing.
Speaker 2: They're doing the.
Speaker 1: Trump except Saddam Hussein, right, who again was Satan's lover,
Speaker 1: which yeah, and they're using the same voice, the same
Speaker 1: flappy headed thing, and he behaves the same with the
Speaker 1: whole relax guy, which you know is too funny. So
Speaker 1: but but they didn't let off on anything. It was
Speaker 1: sort of like they definitely kept their foot on the
Speaker 1: gas the way I see it, even you know, hitting on.
Speaker 1: And I'll play a quick sound clip here where they
Speaker 1: hit on. We'll both mute up and just take a
Speaker 1: listen to this because in the first episode I think
Speaker 1: it is, or no, maybe it's a second episode, because okay,
Speaker 1: first episode is Sermon on the Mount and then second episode, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this has got to be from the second episode.
Speaker 2: Got a nut is the name of that one?
Speaker 1: Because what do you call it? Mister mackiw You know,
Speaker 1: that guy is now fired as school counts, but he
Speaker 1: can go get another job with Ice. So he goes
Speaker 1: and gets a job with Ice. And I find it
Speaker 1: hilarious because it's like every loser character possible from past
Speaker 1: season shows up in the waiting room at ICE and
Speaker 1: Mackie's waiting to go in to go interview for the job.
Speaker 1: And that's the clip I'm about to play. So let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to that, just real fast. As Mackie
Speaker 1: gets introduced and inducted into Ice.
Speaker 2: Let's come up, yes, right right here.
Speaker 1: Now, Remember this episode is got a nut because it's
Speaker 1: all about he's got to pay his monthly expenses and
Speaker 1: he's trying to figure that out. And again the guy
Speaker 1: at the bank even says go to Ice and get
Speaker 1: a job. So even the lady doing the inductions comes
Speaker 1: out with a mask over her face, which is a
Speaker 1: continuous running joke every time Ice shows up. Everybody's masked,
Speaker 1: you know. And again it's all these loser characters from
Speaker 1: the past. The guy was and you know, make Love
Speaker 1: not Warcraft or whatever, Make Warcraft not Love or whatever.
Speaker 1: That guy they brought in, you know, the loser kid
Speaker 1: from the fast food restaurant, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: Karens from one of.
Speaker 2: The earlier episodes.
Speaker 1: They brought all these people back and inducted all of
Speaker 1: them into ICE along with Mackie. So the ladies bringing
Speaker 1: him into the you know, in for the job interview,
Speaker 1: and here it goes.
Speaker 2: Have a say, so what makes you want to work
Speaker 2: for immigration enforcement? Will you see? I got a nut?
Speaker 4: All right, you'll hire it?
Speaker 6: Takes this to the next station for your physical and
Speaker 6: orientation video.
Speaker 2: Was that that's it?
Speaker 5: You will now watch an orientation video featuring the director
Speaker 5: of Homeland Security.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Mackie now has taken in. That's it, you
Speaker 1: got a job. And there's the joke about they're hiring
Speaker 1: anybody and everybody to be part of the.
Speaker 2: ICE raids, right uh.
Speaker 1: And here we get they don't mention her by this name,
Speaker 1: but I love the name that's out there on the
Speaker 1: internet where they call her Ice Barbie Christy Nome. Oh
Speaker 1: is you know doing the introduction video? So the orientation
Speaker 1: video is now on. Everybody's got like their their little
Speaker 1: uh you know, uniforms and stuff already in their hands,
Speaker 1: all folded up, and now they're sitting down for the
Speaker 1: UH for the induction video, Welcome to the team recruits.
Speaker 2: I'm Christy Noans.
Speaker 4: I'm head of Homeland Security.
Speaker 7: A few years ago, I had to put my pupsy
Speaker 7: down by shooting it in the face, because sometimes doing
Speaker 7: what's important means doing what's hard.
Speaker 1: Now, this is this is one of my favorite continuous
Speaker 1: running jokes from the first couple of episodes, which is
Speaker 1: christ Gnome shows up Iceman's you know, pull up screech
Speaker 1: to a halt. She jumps out and immediately starts shooting
Speaker 1: any small dog she finds around because very famously she
Speaker 1: shot her dog in the face because she couldn't train it.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of those things where it's like,
Speaker 2: that's a great character trait.
Speaker 1: Let's make her, you know, Department of Homeland Security official
Speaker 1: and put her in charge of ICE. And people have
Speaker 1: talked about how she's going on social media with the
Speaker 1: you know, with the body armor on and you know,
Speaker 1: like as if she's some sort of stormtrooper, like I'm
Speaker 1: here leading ICE and so this character is pretty pretty
Speaker 1: close to real life.
Speaker 2: But I love this because Mackie's like, oh my good,
Speaker 2: they're shooting dogs anyway, because detaining and questioning.
Speaker 4: People never.
Speaker 1: Just keep shooting the dog and ain'ven better is after
Speaker 1: she's on the street. Now they put her in a
Speaker 1: bathtub where she's got like wine and candles around in
Speaker 1: her hair up and she's still talking to the camera,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious because it looks like, you know, many
Speaker 1: a TikTok video of I'm on vacation and I'm luxuriously relaxing.
Speaker 1: But after a hard day of shooting all the dogs
Speaker 1: in the face out there with ice raids, she's now
Speaker 1: bathing in her bathtub.
Speaker 2: And here we go, thanks of Homeland Security.
Speaker 7: I'm leading the way and Kevin will make sure everyone
Speaker 7: is in his punching labeling.
Speaker 4: So let's get out there and get the mcclas together.
Speaker 4: We can make it help. We hope you enjoyed the presentation.
Speaker 4: Please step through to the vehicles for your first raid.
Speaker 1: So after she, you know, magically a Dalmatian puppy shows
Speaker 1: up in her bathroom, she show shoots a Dalmatian puppy
Speaker 1: in the face in her bathroom, and then it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so now ounder your first rate and they're just gonna
Speaker 1: shove all these guys out into into icemands and send
Speaker 1: them out even though they just went through the orientation video,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious.
Speaker 8: Well here's a question free. Yeah, when I was watching this,
Speaker 8: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: Help but wonder, like, do do do do these people
Speaker 3: care that they're being made fun of?
Speaker 4: Or what? You know?
Speaker 3: And And it's funny because I know that South Park
Speaker 3: has as long had this reputation as being this like
Speaker 3: secret conservative, libertarian leaning show.
Speaker 4: And uh and I think, I mean probably various times.
Speaker 3: Matts Don't and Trey Parker have kind of played this up,
Speaker 3: but they've also done episodes that are clearly, you know,
Speaker 3: leaning the other way, and certainly these past two seasons.
Speaker 3: But do you think that like I mean, it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's funny, but it's they're not.
Speaker 4: That's what I found with these two seasons. It's it's
Speaker 4: they didn't.
Speaker 3: Even really have to try very hard, like especially in
Speaker 3: this this the season twenty seven. I'm sure we'll get
Speaker 3: to you later. Like I didn't realize that things like
Speaker 3: prediction markets actually existed until I saw this, because I
Speaker 3: thought it just sounded so idiotic.
Speaker 4: And and the fact that.
Speaker 3: You know, Don Junior is like running one of them,
Speaker 3: and as an advisor and all these crypto things. I mean,
Speaker 3: but do you think that the MAGA people they just
Speaker 3: don't watch South Park, they don't care. They think it's
Speaker 3: stupid because it I mean, as far as as most
Speaker 3: of us can tell, a lot of these what what
Speaker 3: training beyond a little video like that? Could some of
Speaker 3: these people have? I mean, they've hired so many people.
Speaker 3: There's no way they're vetted and trained. And you know,
Speaker 3: you think about like what it takes if you even
Speaker 3: if you like recruited into the army.
Speaker 4: Or you know, you join.
Speaker 3: That's not it's not like you're just they just ship
Speaker 3: you off to Afghanistan. There's a little bit of a
Speaker 3: work between. So I don't know, what do you think
Speaker 3: do you think that they that they care? Like I was,
Speaker 3: I kept wondering that, especially like in this the episode
Speaker 3: that we're referencing, because it's so it's like so on
Speaker 3: the nose, it's like not even like it's like they
Speaker 3: didn't even have to write anything because this is like
Speaker 3: actually happening in real life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, outside of adding the exaggerated dog shootings,
Speaker 1: which you know, normally I wouldn't find funny, but this
Speaker 1: is hilarious.
Speaker 2: I mean she's killing a dog everywhere she goes. Outside
Speaker 2: of that, no, they're not having to reach for much.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I got to say something here. It's weird to me
Speaker 1: that Trump overreacts to three words out of Jimmy Kimmel's mouth. Right,
Speaker 1: But you don't see the administration reacting to South Park
Speaker 1: like almost like they're ignoring it or they didn't see it,
Speaker 1: which I don't understand because I'm thinking to myself, they
Speaker 1: got a bigger viewership than Jimmy Kimmel did outside of
Speaker 1: the time he came back after getting you know, knocked
Speaker 1: off by a Sinclair and such.
Speaker 2: Right, so I don't understand the disconnection.
Speaker 3: Times they were yeah, what's her? Carolyn Levitt was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a stupid show. Nobody's paying attention to it. But
Speaker 3: then Ice like changed their Twitter profile yea to some
Speaker 3: south Park one. So it is like, I mean even that,
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just I just found it so fascinating something
Speaker 3: like that, where it's like, yeah, they're they're there. And
Speaker 3: obviously later on in this in the you know, in
Speaker 3: this two season arc or whatever, they're referencing the Jimmy
Speaker 3: Kimmel stuff very directly and Brendan Carr and and all that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know. I guess they're just ignoring it.
Speaker 3: It was just interesting, I I because generally speaking, I
Speaker 3: think you know, through through the history of South Park,
Speaker 3: they've certainly they've they've fueled themselves artistically on people being.
Speaker 4: Upset and pushing the boundaries. So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe they're.
Speaker 8: Just It's funny too because Trump seems so thin skin
Speaker 8: and like such a little baby about almost any criticism
Speaker 8: of him, right, and his defenders.
Speaker 2: His defenders are worse than him.
Speaker 4: Since I'm marrying Satan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his defenders are worse than him. Like why are
Speaker 1: they not getting bent out of shape?
Speaker 2: Is a big question. Now.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I got to say that, no,
Speaker 1: I don't see this as they didn't have to write much,
Speaker 1: and I've never viewed South Park as I've always found
Speaker 1: that weird.
Speaker 2: That people see. It's like the roar shock test. Again.
Speaker 1: People decide where they want to play south Park, but
Speaker 1: if you look at it realistically.
Speaker 2: They swing in all directions.
Speaker 1: They hit everybody in my mind, right, so there's no
Speaker 1: predictive Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I never really bought the Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean no, no, I think did people the whole
Speaker 3: South Park Conservative thing is just because they made fun
Speaker 3: of liberals. It's like, okay, but I mean, I mean
Speaker 3: it's not I mean Team America for instances.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know how you could view that
Speaker 4: and think, yeah, that's like a pro conservative.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's it's definitely.
Speaker 4: The entire movie is making fun of them.
Speaker 2: Well, right, but they made fun of But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Chuck. They make fun of.
Speaker 1: The conservative side of things, but they also mock the
Speaker 1: liberal side of things, you know. And even if you
Speaker 1: think about the presidents they decided to go after, they
Speaker 1: went after.
Speaker 2: Like Bush a whole lot more.
Speaker 1: Than they went after as people go, oh, they didn't
Speaker 1: go after Obama at all.
Speaker 2: Well, they kind of did.
Speaker 1: They made them, you know, part of a jewel theft,
Speaker 1: you know, Ocean's eleven theme, you know, and made McCain
Speaker 1: part of it, and.
Speaker 3: They certainly went after his supporters, the you know, Randy Obama.
Speaker 1: Well, and that was the other thing is that the
Speaker 1: conservatives there are these big wooses who were freaking out
Speaker 1: because McCain lost. So they thought the world was going
Speaker 1: to end and they were going to kill themselves and
Speaker 1: all this right, and meanwhile the Obama supporters were like, yeah.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 1: Obama whoo, you know, and like so they went after
Speaker 1: to me, as they're always swinging at both sides, you know,
Speaker 1: and even when they've gone after things that I identify
Speaker 1: with that are like on the fringes of my beliefs,
Speaker 1: I don't take it badly because it seems to me,
Speaker 1: like again, they're swinging in all directions. You know, they
Speaker 1: make Bush part of the nine to eleven conspiracy, but
Speaker 1: then they turn around at the end of it and go, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you believe in a nine to eleven conspiracy,
Speaker 1: you retarded, you know, it's just like okay, But meanwhile
Speaker 1: they had Bush actually showing up to pump it up,
Speaker 1: to make sure to keep people stupid, you know, which
Speaker 1: again it's like how many different directions do you want
Speaker 1: to go with the message here? And that's why I've
Speaker 1: always seen it and that's why I love this, because
Speaker 1: they are taking shots at woke stuff. They have been
Speaker 1: for a while, and they did with guess what PC principle.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the PC principle and he sucks. He's
Speaker 1: a problem, you know, and he what was he? He
Speaker 1: was an overbearing douchebag for like two full seasons, you know,
Speaker 1: basically being like a thought Nazi.
Speaker 2: You know. Remember, hey, look, we're just here to you know,
Speaker 2: to smooch some puss and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, we're here to smash puss
Speaker 1: or however they put it. Remember the PC bros showed up,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah and came a whole thing. So it's like,
Speaker 1: to me, they're always swinging left and right. Now this time,
Speaker 1: they finally, after all these years, decided to actually focus
Speaker 1: on Trump because they had an idea that he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to win, So they made Garrison into Trump and
Speaker 1: then got stuck with him like that for a while
Speaker 1: where it was like, well, we're either going to break
Speaker 1: continuity or we're gonna have to like leave him at
Speaker 1: the White House, which they did for four years. But
Speaker 1: then they tried to take him out. Remember then he's
Speaker 1: uh turned around and he's what do you call it, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's out there doing his what do they call it,
Speaker 1: oh rally So he's doing his rallying thing rallies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: Though, And yeah, so remember he just starts up with
Speaker 1: it and the guy tries to get him to do
Speaker 1: it like a gay thing in the bathroom, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, really, it's like raging. It's like the old
Speaker 1: club ragers where people would take ecstasy and dance around
Speaker 1: in the lights, you know, but instead of that, they're
Speaker 1: maga rallies. It's like, Okay, that's a weird combination.
Speaker 2: But but it worked.
Speaker 1: And the thing is they decided to pull Garrison out
Speaker 1: of the Trump thing, which they made real clear, where,
Speaker 1: like I said, they go to break down his door
Speaker 1: and be like, what are you doing to the country Garrison?
Speaker 1: He goes, what, it's not me. I'n't been in Washington
Speaker 1: in years. And then you switch immediately over to you know,
Speaker 1: Trump doing his thing in the White House and he's
Speaker 1: in bed Satan, which I find to be doubly funny
Speaker 1: and could be a long lasting Easter egg if they
Speaker 1: leave it there, because eventually, why not transpose Malania onto Satan,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's getting really weird with the whole
Speaker 1: Bezos thing. And that's another thing. When they did the
Speaker 1: whole like people going into kiss Trump's ass, which is
Speaker 1: another part of season twenty seven. I'm gonna play a
Speaker 1: clip from that now because I found that funny. All
Speaker 1: these people lining up like, you know, to give them presents,
Speaker 1: which people were doing in real life. Yeah, they had Bezos,
Speaker 1: a representative of Saudi Arabia, they had what do you
Speaker 1: call it, Zuckerberg from Facebook. Everybody's lining up, Kirk, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is what they did with it.
Speaker 4: Mister president, you have so many great ideas.
Speaker 7: Your leadership is truly beyond anything we have ever had
Speaker 7: in this country.
Speaker 1: Now, what cracks me up about this more than anything
Speaker 1: is the visual because they have Trump like making these
Speaker 1: you know, the smirking smiley face and all that, and
Speaker 1: they're changing the expression.
Speaker 4: Those images are so good.
Speaker 2: They are the best.
Speaker 3: And it's the photo of him looking at the sun
Speaker 3: during the eclipse.
Speaker 4: Is it's so good whenever they use that well, right, because.
Speaker 1: He's got his eyes squeezed real tight, and he's got
Speaker 1: this weird sort of like triangle smile happening like a
Speaker 1: joker smile almost, and they just paste it onto his
Speaker 1: head and act like he's being happy, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, and you're so brilliant sir, because this
Speaker 1: is what was going on for months right in front
Speaker 1: of the camera. Well, before we do anything else, we
Speaker 1: want to talk about how great Donald Trump is and
Speaker 1: how wonderful it is that he is called during.
Speaker 3: Those the meetings where they're all, you know, just riding
Speaker 3: him as hard as possible.
Speaker 1: But like everything, whether it was like a photo op
Speaker 1: in the White House or it was like some alleged
Speaker 1: you know, like presser thing at the at the Resolute Desk,
Speaker 1: or if it was a press conference, it was like, okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: let's take the first ten minutes and kiss his ass
Speaker 1: and now we'll transition to whatever the hell this actually is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So yeah, I love this.
Speaker 9: And you do not have a small penis.
Speaker 4: Ah, thanks gang, mister president. You have so many great ideas.
Speaker 7: Your leadership is truly beyond anything we have ever had
Speaker 7: in this country.
Speaker 9: And you do not have a small penis.
Speaker 2: See I love that.
Speaker 1: I had to repeat it because that's been a constant
Speaker 1: now because in the opening, the opening scenes with him
Speaker 1: in the first episode, even he's getting pissed off at
Speaker 1: the paintings, which, if you remember, that was a problem.
Speaker 1: They hung a painting in one of the state capitals,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'll sue you. Why are you making
Speaker 1: my penis so small? But sir, that's the way it
Speaker 1: is in the picture.
Speaker 2: I don't care. And then all some people didn't.
Speaker 1: Notice this that I asked about it is that, like
Speaker 1: all the photos and sculptures and everything else, they all
Speaker 1: have his penis out, okay, because it was blurred on it,
Speaker 1: you know, regular TV, but they if you watch it online,
Speaker 1: they all have his penis out in everything. Even when
Speaker 1: they supposedly redid the Reagan memorial. His penis is out,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's still rather tiny compared to the
Speaker 1: rest of the body, but he's at least somewhat happy
Speaker 1: with it because it's way bigger than it actually is, which.
Speaker 2: Is this whole, you know.
Speaker 1: And by the way he has a small penis is
Speaker 1: the joke, obviously, but it kills me.
Speaker 2: And the ice rates continue.
Speaker 1: By the way, I got the dogs barking, so I
Speaker 1: might kill sound for a minute on my end and
Speaker 1: just play this really quickly with the you know, the
Speaker 1: ice rates keep getting out of hand, and then when
Speaker 1: they go to raid the door of the Explorer Live concert,
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: And then somebody goes.
Speaker 1: Well, the only only brown people that are going to
Speaker 1: be left anywhere are going to be in heaven.
Speaker 2: So of course, next scene, what does Ice do. Remember,
Speaker 2: only detain the brown ones. If it's brown, it goes down.
Speaker 4: Take the lookout.
Speaker 1: So they're just grabbing brown skin angels in heaven, shooting
Speaker 1: dogs in heaven, just straight up doesn't matter where they are.
Speaker 1: We're going there and this is what we're doing. And
Speaker 1: they brought Mackie along on that raid too, which is
Speaker 1: too funny.
Speaker 2: Remember, only detain the brown ones.
Speaker 4: If it's brown, it goes down.
Speaker 1: If it's brown, it goes down. And what is that, Pierce?
Speaker 1: That is a common phrase for what if you poop
Speaker 1: in the toilet, you have to flush, and if it's yellow,
Speaker 1: you can't let it mellow? Though, this is too much
Speaker 1: to me because this is multi layered humor, you know,
Speaker 1: because to Christy Nome or anybody you know commanding the Ice,
Speaker 1: of course, these people are what they're feces, So you know,
Speaker 1: if it's brown, it goes down. I mean that to
Speaker 1: me is multi layered. Maybe yeah, crazy and just looking
Speaker 1: for things here, but I just see.
Speaker 2: It as this is just insane. I mean it's good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, I mean it's I mean again, it's like
Speaker 3: they're they're taking.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's I mean, I wouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Surprised if she said something like that. I mean, these
Speaker 3: people are so classless and so without scruples. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, and that is how they view these people.
Speaker 3: If they're not real, they're not like like, they don't
Speaker 3: they don't deserve any sort of like respect, even if
Speaker 3: they are in heaven apparently.
Speaker 4: No, No, I yeah, I like this.
Speaker 3: I want I wanted more of this kind of stuff
Speaker 3: like that that that episode I thought was really good,
Speaker 3: and also with the the Arlie Kirk stuff and Cartman
Speaker 3: doing the Young Master debaters, I wanted that to kind
Speaker 3: of continue on a little bit right, and in said
Speaker 3: they kind of like shifted it to this the whole
Speaker 3: thing with Towley and and and Satan and but I
Speaker 3: do I do love kind of where that ultimately went.
Speaker 4: In the in the season twenty eight as well.
Speaker 1: See I have a weird question there because look, they
Speaker 1: did the Charlie Kirk episode Charlie Kirk was still alive,
Speaker 1: and so you know, anybody that'll look back on it
Speaker 1: and say, oh, they were mocking. You know, nobody could
Speaker 1: knock him for that, because Charlie Kirk was still alive.
Speaker 1: He reacted to the episode and thought it was funny.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he thought it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he was.
Speaker 3: I don't really think he. I think in real life
Speaker 3: he didn't think it was that funny. But he knew
Speaker 3: enough that if he started acting like the little turd
Speaker 3: that he is, he was just gonna.
Speaker 4: You know, it was just going to continue, right.
Speaker 3: I think he was like, I don't know, I mean maybe,
Speaker 3: but I doubt he thought it.
Speaker 4: Was really that funny.
Speaker 2: No, No, I think he just didn't.
Speaker 3: Want to get made fun of anymore, because I mean,
Speaker 3: it's again, it's I don't think he actually quite understood
Speaker 3: what they were saying. No, you know, I mean, like
Speaker 3: the critique of him there is so spot on, and
Speaker 3: he just was like.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, sure, I you know, I think he
Speaker 4: was just he's an idiot. What he was an idiot?
Speaker 2: Right? So there's two things happening there.
Speaker 1: One is that he probably you know, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been mocked by South Park. What an honor, and
Speaker 1: really didn't realize exactly how you know, close to home
Speaker 1: it was really cutting.
Speaker 2: Uh that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But the second thing is it would have only made
Speaker 1: it worse if he like got pissed about it, because
Speaker 1: it likely, I mean just strategically, it would have incurred
Speaker 1: further mocking, you know, like if he really made a
Speaker 1: big deal.
Speaker 4: Out of it, exactly, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Then, Yeah, Matt and Tray probably would have stuck that
Speaker 1: character in there more, you know, like you would had
Speaker 1: Cartman like, you know, really going on tour and stuff.
Speaker 2: Which good luck for them that they didn't.
Speaker 4: Go that way, which would have been great. I wish
Speaker 4: that had happened.
Speaker 1: Well, kind of good luck for them they didn't go
Speaker 1: that way though, because they might have been part of
Speaker 1: the giant backlash, you know, because anybody who said anything
Speaker 1: was you know, an enemy of the state, right all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, So shop Park dodged the bullet there,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, right exactly, you know, but but
Speaker 1: they spot on nailed him, like you were saying.
Speaker 3: I saw that they were even you know right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. It was so perfect, and I mean that
Speaker 3: was crazy to see the speed with which all of
Speaker 3: that obviously unfolded.
Speaker 4: It is pretty wild, right, because that was.
Speaker 3: August six I think when that episode came out, and
Speaker 3: then he was killed the tenth of September, so not
Speaker 3: you know, it was just a little bit over a month.
Speaker 4: Well let's see between those.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, I'm looking at it right. He's trying
Speaker 1: to make his nut and all that. Yeah, that's August
Speaker 1: sixth exactly. And that's followed by Sika Fancy and Woke's
Speaker 1: Wak is Dead, which was pretty funny because that hits
Speaker 1: on the tariffs and the the uh la boo boos
Speaker 1: and all that. But conflict of interest is where it
Speaker 1: gets interesting. And you brought up this the odds app. Now,
Speaker 1: if you had been listening to my show a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, you would have heard about Predicted, which
Speaker 1: was the which was the prominent one there for a
Speaker 1: while where you could place bets on almost anything, and
Speaker 1: it was all dollar bets and it was like if
Speaker 1: you bet a dollar, then you could win a dollar
Speaker 1: plus a certain percentage depending on the odds. And they
Speaker 1: were like betting on stuff like what these you know,
Speaker 1: other apps, these other apps have emerged afterwards.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So I was talking about this with Swanson years ago,
Speaker 1: about these betting apps. That were strange, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of curious why they weren't more popular at the time. Uh,
Speaker 1: And they become huge because every kind of betting app
Speaker 1: is gigantic at this point.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean we went from the NFL not wanting gambling
Speaker 1: to happen to them being sponsored by DraftKings, you know,
Speaker 1: like this this is a weird new reality.
Speaker 4: It's funny watching.
Speaker 3: When we were watching this on Paramount, there's these endless
Speaker 3: ad breaks and it's so funny to like, for that episode,
Speaker 3: they're talking about these prediction markets and then counting to
Speaker 3: an ad break of bet MGM and it's Jon Hamm
Speaker 3: talking about gambling is amazing, and so yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's they you can't even in a in a TV
Speaker 3: show making fun of that. They're still inundating you, uh,
Speaker 3: to you know, to gamble more. But I mean that
Speaker 3: that episode just that was like eye opening.
Speaker 4: That was one of these moments where I like learned something.
Speaker 3: And the the way that these app apps and these
Speaker 3: companies work it seems like something out of South Park,
Speaker 3: Like it seems like something that they would have like
Speaker 3: dreamed up, you know, as a joke, because I mean.
Speaker 4: They're really like I mean, I mean, you probably know
Speaker 4: this more than I, but they're they're they're no different
Speaker 4: from bet MGM.
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're able to, Like, I know,
Speaker 3: there's some sort of legal eese that they go through
Speaker 3: that allows them to not you know, they're regulated by
Speaker 3: the FTC, which is apparently just extremely lenient and you know,
Speaker 3: requires no oversight whatsoever about what these people are betting on,
Speaker 3: including things like you know, politics and celebrity divorces and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And I was just shocked that that that's actually like
Speaker 3: allowed to happen. I mean it really, it's so bizarre,
Speaker 3: and it's it's ridiculous that Don Junior is in the
Speaker 3: middle of it.
Speaker 4: Just, I mean, just he's such an idiot. The fact
Speaker 4: that he is I don't even want to know how
Speaker 4: much money he is making.
Speaker 3: And and and crypto or whatever on all of this stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just like wild, Like I don't have much
Speaker 3: else to say on that specifically, but it was just
Speaker 3: so uh it really it felt I kind of hate
Speaker 3: this term, but very meta, where it felt like it
Speaker 3: was a joke that South Park had come up with,
Speaker 3: but it was actually just the reality of you know,
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
Speaker 3: There's it's sort of as if reality and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you broke up there for a second, then yeah,
Speaker 1: reality reality in the cartoon kind of converge here. That's
Speaker 1: what's interesting about you even talking about the ads you watching,
Speaker 1: because the algorithm doesn't know the difference. Because there's a
Speaker 1: mention of a betting app during your TV show, it
Speaker 1: probably went and grabbed the betting app ad spot for
Speaker 1: you because it was being mentioned on.
Speaker 2: Your TV show.
Speaker 1: And that's the ironic part of this, right. As far
Speaker 1: as the Trump's and getting involved, I mean they're involved
Speaker 1: in all sorts of like, you know, buy something that
Speaker 1: doesn't that's not tangible, you know, by the crypto cards,
Speaker 1: the Trump cards, by the cryptocurrency, by the Trump coin. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a whole massive business where they minted the Trump
Speaker 1: you know, Trump himself and his family all is billionaires
Speaker 1: here where they've done that intentionally to put them in
Speaker 1: the clubs so that now they're more friendly to the
Speaker 1: billionaire club. It's it's completely psychotic and it's happening like
Speaker 1: in front of us all and even they mentioned it
Speaker 1: when Jesus goes to do the sermon on the Mounta.
Speaker 1: In the first episode, he goes, look, this guy can
Speaker 1: bribe and do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 2: Shut up and eat your bread.
Speaker 1: I mean it's too much, but that's Conflict of Interest
Speaker 1: is the last episode in that season, and again it
Speaker 1: you know, it continued to just be every two weeks
Speaker 1: they're putting out an episode. Now, I didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to happen, but let's see September twenty fourth. Okay, so
Speaker 1: three weeks later they release another episode, which was a
Speaker 1: weird turn. It's like an extra week break. But there
Speaker 1: wasn't much of a break between the two seasons.
Speaker 2: Okay, and here we go.
Speaker 1: They go with Twisted Christian on the fifteenth of October
Speaker 1: after releasing Conflict of Interest on the twenty fourth, and
Speaker 1: it was just sort of declared, well, by the way,
Speaker 1: this is now season twenty eight, so who even knew
Speaker 1: that season twenty seven concluded it's just done. Here you go,
Speaker 1: Now here's twenty eight. And I'm sitting there saying to myself,
Speaker 1: this is a way to like run in you know,
Speaker 1: like to fast forward through your Like if they told them, oh,
Speaker 1: you got to produce three seasons, well here's two of them, right,
Speaker 1: away done, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like okay, you know, and are they
Speaker 1: doing that to get out of it or are they
Speaker 1: doing it because they didn't you know, in the contract,
Speaker 1: they didn't note okay, you got to give us thirty episodes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: If they didn't do that, then why not make it?
Speaker 1: You know, here's two here's two shows. That's the season done.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't even matter anymore.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It seemed, yeah, it seemed like there was some sort
Speaker 3: of something was happening that we were in privy too
Speaker 3: with some of this, because yeah, it just didn't make
Speaker 3: any sense, right because it's it's, uh.
Speaker 4: It's only a few weeks between them. I have no idea.
Speaker 4: It seemed very odd.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, yeah, I couldn't really put my
Speaker 3: finger on it. I I can't imagine that that's what
Speaker 3: they're gonna do from now on, you know, because even
Speaker 3: at ten episodes, it's still like, I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: I think their previous seasons were about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, the past were last even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the past few okay, so that's why I
Speaker 1: said when they did the longer episodes, right, the hour
Speaker 1: and whatever episodes. Then they took those for syndication and
Speaker 1: split them up into three, which makes it like, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: so we did three of those, it was like nine
Speaker 1: episodes for that season, but that was the separate deal
Speaker 1: they did for like HBO Max or whatever. So it
Speaker 1: gets very confusing, like they're answering to their deals and
Speaker 1: continuity in the show or the seasons from one to
Speaker 1: the next. It depends on what platform it's actually going
Speaker 1: to be on, right, So I don't know what this
Speaker 1: all means because it just seems totally weird. But even
Speaker 1: at their strangest, when they started to go over to
Speaker 1: the streaming services and they did you know, the streaming
Speaker 1: wars and all that, it seemed to me like they
Speaker 1: were going to try to stick to the ten episodes
Speaker 1: and that went out the window. But like I said,
Speaker 1: it was very weird to watch it happen because there
Speaker 1: was no break in between either. It almost seems like, well,
Speaker 1: this is a continuation of a season, except we told
Speaker 1: you it's not that season, that's all.
Speaker 2: And now they introduced the.
Speaker 1: Peter tele thing in there, and you know, Cartman is
Speaker 1: possessed and you know, and Jesus has the the weirdly
Speaker 1: you know, botoxed and you know, fake fake breasted girlfriend
Speaker 1: rock Bottom or whatever, and she's the you know, she's
Speaker 1: his girlfriend now and he's the new school counselor, and
Speaker 1: he's like fed up with the whole thing already, which
Speaker 1: is funny because Jesus is a character in South Park,
Speaker 1: always has been. And the woman in the hat comes
Speaker 1: in right from you know, the trip over to England
Speaker 1: and Trump's whole thing okay, but it's like a poltergeist
Speaker 1: in the East Wing. The whole thing is crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: But to me, the pace of the jokes, though, got better,
Speaker 1: and they still kept stacking it and layering these things
Speaker 1: together as they went, so I was happier with the
Speaker 1: way these were written. But the distribution of it still
Speaker 1: sucks because it's like we got ten episode, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's two seasons now.
Speaker 4: I know it feels a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I think at times it really does
Speaker 3: feel like they don't want to do it, but they
Speaker 3: keep getting these paychecks and and it's kind of like
Speaker 3: you can't not you know, It's like you just can't
Speaker 3: turn down two billion dollars, I guess.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't know if this is like.
Speaker 3: A way of them kind of not comping out, but
Speaker 3: like kind of like I don't know, it seems again
Speaker 3: like they.
Speaker 4: Do they want to be fired.
Speaker 3: Do they want to just sort of like get it
Speaker 3: over with and go do something else. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I agree. I think that this liked I
Speaker 3: liked this, the the the ongoing stuff. I think the
Speaker 3: Jdvan stuff was really funny. I can't anytime I see
Speaker 3: a picture of him, I only think of his caricature
Speaker 3: in South Park and.
Speaker 4: That voice, and yeah, I just like I.
Speaker 3: Love that him and Trum relationship, you know, Satan having
Speaker 3: to kind of deal with being pregnant and abandoned. I
Speaker 3: thought that was really I thought that was just all
Speaker 3: really good. And I mean, of course I had to,
Speaker 3: you know, smile.
Speaker 4: A loow that the just sort of call back that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was crazy because now Fantasy Island, which
Speaker 1: is another see you think about it, that's another meta
Speaker 1: joke there because they're all on Fantasy Island and Tattoo
Speaker 1: is this guy because he's Survey Villachez, which is funny
Speaker 1: because they use JD.
Speaker 2: Vance's real head.
Speaker 1: But they don't do the same thing they do with Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, where he's got the facial expressions and the
Speaker 1: changing heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still you know, a
Speaker 1: buss Do you want me to lub up Satan's butthole?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's it's just like so absurd. You know.
Speaker 1: Even when they capture these guys and they take him
Speaker 1: tomorrow lago, right, they end up with Craig is there
Speaker 1: because he's the new Charlie Kirk because you know, Cartman
Speaker 1: can't overtake him, so he's still the new Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1: They bring him to the island. They bring uh, you know,
Speaker 1: MACKI to the island because he's going to be the
Speaker 1: new face of of Ice because Christy Nomes face is
Speaker 1: freaking Trump out because of the botox nails and stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing where her face tries to run
Speaker 1: away off her skull a bunch of times.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just but it's NonStop.
Speaker 1: To me, the pace is way better and reminds me
Speaker 1: of the earlier stuff where there was constant you know,
Speaker 1: there was constant action and constant dialogue that kept the
Speaker 1: jokes rolling, Yes, which is why I like it so much. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then they get into AI and the whole chat
Speaker 1: ept and now people are depending on it and building
Speaker 1: whole businesses around it.
Speaker 2: And how smart is that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: And like, yeah, I like Stan's meme coin.
Speaker 3: I thought that was really good, right, the Saudi Arabia
Speaker 3: stuff was great.
Speaker 2: Well see, and there you go, there's a there's a
Speaker 2: tip of the hat. There's a tip of the hat.
Speaker 1: To the criticism of all the comedians that went over
Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia to take the money right where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia is giving out money to everybody. Let's go
Speaker 1: get that, you know, because of golf and all that,
Speaker 1: and that's become a political football. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: just all this stuff has many jokes stacked into it,
Speaker 1: and you could take it on the surface level and
Speaker 1: look at the most recent events, but also you can
Speaker 1: find a lot of stuff that's gonna stay there a minute,
Speaker 1: you know, and still gonna be.
Speaker 2: Relevant when you watch it later.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, the Turkey trot is now sponsored by Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: but don't say anything bad about the regime.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Like that was funny, you know.
Speaker 1: And Okay, so we'll get our five grand which is
Speaker 1: on a five k which you know, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: A five k run for five grand and.
Speaker 1: It's called the Turkey Trot, uh, and it's a thanksgiving a.
Speaker 4: Purely American that much money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not that much money. And yet these
Speaker 1: people are looking to kill each other for it, which
Speaker 1: again is sort of like a you know, a serious
Speaker 1: tip of the hat to guess what. This is the
Speaker 1: way this works now, you know, like it just continues
Speaker 1: to work that way. And oh, by the way, this
Speaker 1: is the New Reality and.
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia sponsor anything. I found that funny.
Speaker 1: So you know, we're most of the way through the
Speaker 1: ten episodes here, okay, until we get to the seeming
Speaker 1: conclusion and the wrap up of all this, which is now,
Speaker 1: you know, Satan's butt baby, and obviously Trump, being who
Speaker 1: he is, can't do an abortion. But he winds up
Speaker 1: going to uh Colorado to ring a bell like a
Speaker 1: Santa with you know, with with his VP with him,
Speaker 1: and he's going Merry Christmas, relaxed guy, Merry Christmas, which
Speaker 1: to me is the funny, insincere thing he's got rolling about.
Speaker 1: Hey we can say Merry Christmas again. There's just so
Speaker 1: much built into that. And then they got to go
Speaker 1: get Peter Teal out of prison because he's there to
Speaker 1: battle the anti Christ, which obviously is Satan's butt baby
Speaker 1: is the Antichrist, right, And then they brought back in
Speaker 1: even the Christmas Critters, which I thought again was funny.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of call battles on that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what did you think of them showing up? Because remember
Speaker 1: they were the funniest thing when they when they did
Speaker 1: the whole you know Cartman's guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, you made me want to watch that that
Speaker 3: episode with them, you know, for the blood orgy scene.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I thought that was great. I thought
Speaker 4: that that. I liked that. I liked the callbacks. I
Speaker 4: think it it.
Speaker 3: It made that season feel really kind of full. And
Speaker 3: I will say too, I mean, especially that the last one.
Speaker 4: It made me like.
Speaker 3: Feel for Satan of course, which is funny, and that's
Speaker 3: very South Park to kind of feel empathy for the
Speaker 3: Prince of Darkness, you know at the very end.
Speaker 4: So no, I love the Woodland Critter stuff. I thought
Speaker 4: it was really good.
Speaker 3: I thought the just it's the concept of Trump and
Speaker 3: and JD Vance needing to abort his unborn son because
Speaker 3: there's and again, there's so many layers to that, inso
Speaker 3: much as I'm sure Donald Trump is paid for many
Speaker 3: an abortion in uh during his time, and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, these people are so hollow in what they
Speaker 3: actually believe that of course, you know, I mean the
Speaker 3: if JD. Vance thought that killing someone's baby would advance
Speaker 3: his career, I'm sure he would do it. I don't
Speaker 3: think he would have any qualms over it. These people
Speaker 3: are so spineless. So yeah, I just I love that.
Speaker 3: I love to the idea that JD. Vance views he
Speaker 3: views Satan's and Trump's child as like, oh, well, that's
Speaker 3: going to bump him out of the line of succession, right,
Speaker 3: you know again, which is another wonderful layer that they're
Speaker 3: they're creating this aristocratic family, which certainly Trump seems totally
Speaker 3: down with and you know, would I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: just planning his uh you know, third run for president.
Speaker 3: So that was another I love that. That was like
Speaker 3: a great little line. And the idea that JD. Vans
Speaker 3: would go to those lengths to ensure that you know,
Speaker 3: he is the line of succession, would uh would uh
Speaker 3: fit you know better for him? Right?
Speaker 4: So I thought it was really good.
Speaker 3: I like anytime the Woodland Critters appear, I'm always happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta love that because that's from Stan's Christmas Adventure, right,
Speaker 1: you know, from the past. I forget what the name
Speaker 1: of that episode was, but either way you can go
Speaker 1: back and find it easy.
Speaker 4: What is Woodland Christmas?
Speaker 2: It might be?
Speaker 1: It might be, And it's sort of like the story
Speaker 1: I think that was written by by Cartman, where you know,
Speaker 1: Kyle is of course the center of evil in that one,
Speaker 1: because as usual Kyle would.
Speaker 3: Be yeah, well, I think in that Kyle is the
Speaker 3: Antichrist or something or no.
Speaker 4: No, I guess he's no.
Speaker 3: No, no, there there's still behind you to bring about the
Speaker 3: birth of the Antichrist in it.
Speaker 4: But Kyle is you know, stops it of course because.
Speaker 7: He's Jewish and whatnot? Right is that all Cartman's doing?
Speaker 7: Not right, that's all Cartman writing. But you see, there's
Speaker 7: the funny thing is I noted that people missed one
Speaker 7: of the meta jokes that they were toomping on at
Speaker 7: one point where Fox News. First of all, I loved
Speaker 7: when they came out with the fake news Fox News
Speaker 7: and they were freaking out and they were like, we have.
Speaker 2: To report something terrible. We're sorry, but we have to
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 1: But later when all the hosts started saying, you know,
Speaker 1: Trump is effing Satan. Now, it sounds like they're describing
Speaker 1: the act, that's what he's doing. But what they're really
Speaker 1: doing is Trump is kamma you know, Trump is kamma
Speaker 1: effing satan. In other words, he's actually satan, and they're
Speaker 1: just using the F word to accent it, right, So
Speaker 1: they're just basically saying Trump is Satan. And all of
Speaker 1: these conservative people missed it completely. And most of the
Speaker 1: viewers of South Park seem to miss it because they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right, he's banging Satan and they're having a butt baby,
Speaker 1: so'll it makes sense. And I'm like, yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: missing the point. They're making these these fox o say
Speaker 1: it over and over again so that it's an exclamation.
Speaker 1: This guy is satan. He is Satan, not that he's
Speaker 1: just banging Satan. He is Satan, and they like.
Speaker 2: It totally goes over their heads. Look at the blank stare.
Speaker 1: If you talk to somebody face to face about it,
Speaker 1: it's too funny.
Speaker 2: They completely miss it.
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of jokes like that like I said,
Speaker 1: if it's brown, it goes down. Obviously they're the metajoke
Speaker 1: there is these people are shit okay.
Speaker 2: You know. And there's a whole bunch of hints to.
Speaker 1: This stuff all the way throughout the show. And it's like,
Speaker 1: so there are many layers to these jokes. And I
Speaker 1: gotta say the past five years, at least, they have
Speaker 1: not layered their jokes.
Speaker 2: In the show.
Speaker 1: It's been very lazy in my mind. And this is
Speaker 1: why I think you and I were very disappointed with it.
Speaker 1: Now you see this as an improvement at least these
Speaker 1: you know, two allegedly two seasons. You see it as
Speaker 1: an improvement. But I see it as a mass sim improvement.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm still trying to figure out why the magosphere.
Speaker 2: Is not freaking out.
Speaker 1: I mean, do they not understand how on the nose
Speaker 1: these jokes are?
Speaker 2: I mean, do they not understand the I think.
Speaker 3: That I think that they My sense is that they
Speaker 3: they got the message from like the first or second
Speaker 3: episode that oh, okay, we're not supposed to watch this anymore.
Speaker 4: You know, Daddy doesn't like.
Speaker 3: It and it's stupid and and Caroline Levitt says it's
Speaker 3: it's dumb. So we're just I don't think they're they're
Speaker 3: they're just completely ignoring it. I think that they they're
Speaker 3: just they're moving on to and And also I think
Speaker 3: that at the end of the day, those people they
Speaker 3: can't sit down and watch something and laugh and enjoy themselves.
Speaker 4: They have to constantly be.
Speaker 3: Either in a state of sort of hyper vigilance and
Speaker 3: fear over or whatever it is Maduro or immigrants and
Speaker 3: pedophiles and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And and they also just they have to be angry
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 3: So I don't think that they would just sit because
Speaker 3: even like their their version of like comedy, it's like
Speaker 3: Greg Guttfeld or others just ripping on, you know, punching down.
Speaker 3: It's not really that funny. So I think they just
Speaker 3: they didn't watch it. I think they wanted nothing to
Speaker 3: do with it. They you know it because all it
Speaker 3: needs is Trump to be like, oh those guys like
Speaker 3: you know, they did anybody even watch that anymore?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, come on.
Speaker 3: And they're just happy to sit and refresh their phones
Speaker 3: looking to see whatever the new truth social pronouncement is
Speaker 3: from him.
Speaker 4: So I think they just didn't watch it. That's my
Speaker 4: set or that's my theory.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really know. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I have a sense, but that's my theory. I think
Speaker 3: they just didn't watch it because they essentially were told
Speaker 3: not to or they you know, they knew that it
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't going to be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, I don't think they actually want to see Okay,
Speaker 4: they could never that.
Speaker 2: I see. I see that point of view. But here's
Speaker 2: my counter to that.
Speaker 1: They pounced on Jimmy Kimmel to the point of, you know,
Speaker 1: getting the cancelation, and then that had to be reversed.
Speaker 1: Then the guy actually has high ratings, and in my mind,
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like a coordinated stunt to actually raise
Speaker 1: the guy's ratings because I don't think he was doing
Speaker 1: that well until the FCC chairman was like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, you better do this or that or else,
Speaker 1: and like that, mobilization and that kind of stuff has continued,
Speaker 1: where they've criticized and hammered and even taken over, you know,
Speaker 1: like the Barry Weiss thing and CBS and everything. They're
Speaker 1: taking over the media. They're owning it one way or another.
Speaker 1: I mean, MSNBC split off from NBC now, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're what do they call themselves an MS now
Speaker 1: or something MS whatever is I don't know, but either way,
Speaker 1: they've split themselves off. They're trying to separate themselves from
Speaker 1: liberal wokism. CNN is changing, CBS is changing, They're actually
Speaker 1: winning in the media wars. And you would think that
Speaker 1: they would attack this and take it down, and you know,
Speaker 1: make the same arguments, how dare you you know, you
Speaker 1: can't possibly you're threatening violence, You're encouraging people to do
Speaker 1: terrible things, you know, some nonsense.
Speaker 2: You would think they.
Speaker 1: Would go with here, because it would be just as
Speaker 1: disconnected as freaking out at Jimmy Kimmel for barely saying
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 2: So it seems weird to me.
Speaker 1: I get it that you know, they've been discouraged from
Speaker 1: watching it, but they were also discouraged from watching Kimmel.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, they had to go with the corporate influence
Speaker 1: and we'll find then we won't run it on our
Speaker 1: conservative networks and Burber Burber burr, And then they had
Speaker 1: to reverse themselves inside of what a week, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying, it's it's like almost weird
Speaker 1: that there isn't more of a reaction.
Speaker 3: It's funny too, because I don't know, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: unless just I mean I think that I think if
Speaker 3: you were to look at the ratings for this, I
Speaker 3: mean they're they're I mean, like almost all shows, the
Speaker 3: ratings for South PARKA just everything goes down, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just fewer and fewer people, Like if you look
Speaker 3: at like the ratings or you know, or views rather
Speaker 3: not ratings, the views. You know, like for the first
Speaker 3: couple of seasons, you've got you know, five million people
Speaker 3: watching an episode, and now you're down to like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, three hundred thousand people or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: So obviously, I mean, just fewer people.
Speaker 3: Are watching it. I don't know, I'm not sure. It's
Speaker 3: strange to me that there isn't more of an of
Speaker 3: an uproar. I mean that that's why I feel like
Speaker 3: they're just they're not watching it it, which is funny
Speaker 3: because I I always find Paramount, like if you log
Speaker 3: into Paramount Plus, it's like it's all the shows are
Speaker 3: these everything is made by that guy Sheridan Taylor Sheridan,
Speaker 3: and they're all like, you know, he's always on Rogan
Speaker 3: and he's always parrotting a lot of right wing talking points.
Speaker 4: About oil and being a man.
Speaker 3: And all this sort of you know, it's all, it's nothing,
Speaker 3: but shows that kind of appeal to them. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe they turn on Paramount and they just
Speaker 3: see Landman or whatever iteration of Yellowstone is popular at
Speaker 3: the time, and they just they just click on that
Speaker 3: they don't watch South Park.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that they. I think that also for
Speaker 3: many for the past couple of years. I think that
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff, like if you look at
Speaker 3: the way South Park has like handled COVID and things
Speaker 3: like that, it doesn't skew with what they want from
Speaker 3: from a show like that. So maybe they're just like
Speaker 3: done with it. They just they haven't watched it for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's my that's my take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be right. But anyway, let's
Speaker 1: leave to politics out of it. What's your overall view
Speaker 1: on this? I mean, like I said, I definitely see
Speaker 1: it as a massive improvement, But I think your your
Speaker 1: improvement scales a little lower than mine. You're you're you're
Speaker 1: seeing it as less of an improvement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it's yeah. I think I I
Speaker 3: would prefer more episodes of just the boys being boys.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's not it's funny anymore or whatnot,
Speaker 3: but I do kind of miss some of that. I
Speaker 3: miss just some of like Cartman being Cartman and coming
Speaker 3: up with schemes.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that. So I think it was it
Speaker 4: was definitely an improvement.
Speaker 3: I think that I like what you're you know you
Speaker 3: were saying about the continuity of some of the jokes
Speaker 3: and the the through lines through throughout multiple episodes.
Speaker 4: I thought that was all great.
Speaker 3: Uh, some of the callbacks as well to like previous
Speaker 3: things like the Woodland crid or Christmas and some of
Speaker 3: the other characters is really good.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it was good.
Speaker 3: I would I just hope they continue like this, and
Speaker 3: I as much as I like the current stuff that
Speaker 3: they do, I could go with the season or half
Speaker 3: a season that's not about politics and everything that's happening
Speaker 3: in the world. Like I think that my favorite episodes
Speaker 3: are the ones that are not so topical, because I
Speaker 3: think you could just return to those over and over
Speaker 3: again and really find them funny.
Speaker 4: So I don't know that's that's my thought.
Speaker 8: But but I mean, listening to you, I do I
Speaker 8: am maybe more confident, uh or that they might be
Speaker 8: heading in a better direction in terms of the writing.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm undecided as to what direction they're headed in because
Speaker 1: to me, I see, you know, increased effort here has
Speaker 1: obviously been put in, but at the same time, we
Speaker 1: got way less production, you know, at least half of
Speaker 1: the production level that we would have gotten in the
Speaker 1: same time period, and they would have called this one season,
Speaker 1: you know, So you know, it's weird to me. It's
Speaker 1: like they've they've definitely decreased their pace and I guess
Speaker 1: they can set it. And meanwhile, if you're being paid
Speaker 1: two billion dollars, yeah, it's kind of hard to like
Speaker 1: not do something for two billion dollars, you know, like
Speaker 1: when people like complain about you know, well, what is
Speaker 1: this guy get a hundred million dollars?
Speaker 4: What is it? Dude?
Speaker 2: How do you turn that down?
Speaker 1: If you are capable of doing a job for one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars that you know, you're not only capable
Speaker 1: of doing, but you do it better than other people do,
Speaker 1: which is obviously why you're being paid that amount. I mean,
Speaker 1: tell me you're not going to take that paycheck, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And obviously they're not being controlled by the you know,
Speaker 1: like don't make fun of Trump narrative, so they don't
Speaker 1: have the Barry Weiss restrictions on them. Clearly, Okay, So
Speaker 1: if you can be free to create and still do
Speaker 1: something you're capable of doing, even if you're sick of
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, this is why they're waving massive
Speaker 1: contracts in front of them, because it's obviously still worth
Speaker 1: more than two billion dollars. You know, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: pay them two billion dollars to make their two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: In their minds, they can make a lot more than
Speaker 1: that two billion if these guys create this stuff for them,
Speaker 1: So one way or another, they're gonna make that money back,
Speaker 1: or at least they're gambling that.
Speaker 2: They are, right.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's just it's a weird thing to
Speaker 1: watch the business and maybe you know, look, it's almost
Speaker 1: like rock stars when they're way past their prime and
Speaker 1: they're still out there trying to tour and you know
Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. Yeah, right, It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: how many times did the Rolling Stones continue to tour
Speaker 1: even though God knows, like you're looking at them, going,
Speaker 1: are these the same guys? You know, like you don't
Speaker 1: even recognize them anymore. It's like, you know, have you
Speaker 1: seen a picture of Jimmy Page lately? You know, like, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, at a certain But then again, if somebody says, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guarantee you so many millions of dollars to go.
Speaker 2: How do you say?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, no, of course, yeah, you know. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like if somebody said to me, like if
Speaker 1: I quit doing this show, and then somebody said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we're willing to pay you, you know, a half a
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to come do it? Yeah, better
Speaker 1: believe I'll get back on the mic, you know. And
Speaker 1: I have considered quitting lately. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we all go through these things, and you've been away
Speaker 1: a bit lately. I didn't even talk about that at
Speaker 1: the beginning, but I mean, you've been busy. I know
Speaker 1: you're busy in your personal life. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you want to describe here, but I'm aware of what
Speaker 1: you're busy with, and I'm happy that you are. And
Speaker 1: I know that you know, even though you're a bit
Speaker 1: tired from things.
Speaker 2: Lately, you know that will pass. Okay.
Speaker 1: The one thing I can guarantee you in that circumstance,
Speaker 1: since I've been kind of where you're at, is that
Speaker 1: this will change. I'm not telling you that it's all
Speaker 1: going to get better. I'm telling you all these things
Speaker 1: will change. You know, none of this lasts forever. That's
Speaker 1: the thing about the nature of what it is you're
Speaker 1: doing with your life right now is that you can
Speaker 1: guarantee that nothing lasts that long. Everything is transient here,
Speaker 1: and you know you do your best in the moment
Speaker 1: that you're in, and that is all anybody can really do.
Speaker 2: So you know, I get that.
Speaker 1: And I know that you haven't been creating content lately
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, And I know you
Speaker 1: have maybe an idea that you want to get back
Speaker 1: to it, but then again, maybe.
Speaker 2: You're unsure about that.
Speaker 1: What is the future for Porkin's policy review, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to give me an answer,
Speaker 1: you tell me you're still thinking it over.
Speaker 2: Tell me, I mean, you know, give me a hint.
Speaker 3: Probably probably still thinking well, I mean, not still thinking
Speaker 3: it over. Yeah, I mean, I would I hope that
Speaker 3: this is the you know, the first of many more
Speaker 3: conversations between the two of us, maybe not just on
Speaker 3: South Park but on other things. But yeah, I would say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do want to do more things. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes making promises on the air, every
Speaker 3: time I've ever made them, it always like kind of
Speaker 3: comes back to.
Speaker 4: Haunt to haunt me.
Speaker 3: So I don't think I'll make any like, you know,
Speaker 3: concrete uh proclamations right here, but yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think they there will be some more episodes.
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I've got to at some
Speaker 3: point get my thoughts together on the Epstein stuff, just
Speaker 3: because every everyone I know is always like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: they're always asking me questions about it or or or
Speaker 3: want to know what's my take on it, And obviously
Speaker 3: I think that, yeah, I got to put something out
Speaker 3: on that at some point. It's gonna be a series,
Speaker 3: probably a series of episodes, because I don't think I
Speaker 3: could sum it all up in one. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean one of my uh sort of New Year's
Speaker 3: resolutions is to to try and record with some regularity,
Speaker 3: even if that's only like once a month.
Speaker 4: Or once every two months or something.
Speaker 1: Right, So, okay, you're going to get back to it,
Speaker 1: but the pace and everything is to be determined. And
Speaker 1: that's cool because you know, to my mind, you were
Speaker 1: part of the discussion, and so was I, and so
Speaker 1: was Opperman, and so were a bunch of other people
Speaker 1: long before this became a national discussion regarding Epstein. Now
Speaker 1: there are actually, you know, pieces of information out there
Speaker 1: that were alleged before that were seen before, but nobody
Speaker 1: took all that seriously in the major media circles and
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And it's weird to sit
Speaker 1: here and see that, you know, CNN is talking about
Speaker 1: this now, and you know what I mean in five.
Speaker 4: Like South Park is making fun of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or South Park is making fun of it when meanwhile,
Speaker 1: this was one of those fringe, barely or not really
Speaker 1: known unless you lived in Florida kind of circumstances for
Speaker 1: like a decade, you know. So I know that's weird,
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, I don't want you to make
Speaker 1: any solid proclamations because yeah, same thing happens to me too.
Speaker 1: Every time I try to go, well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do this, and I've got a plan to do that.
Speaker 1: I swear to God every single time I declare it somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I know it was heard by a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Things just go the wrong way and I can't do it.
Speaker 2: And I think you're.
Speaker 1: Starting to discover the same problem where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to regularly doing my show,
Speaker 1: and then three months later people go, hey, where's the show,
Speaker 1: and you go, well, I had other stuff going on,
Speaker 1: you know, And you sound like you don't know what
Speaker 1: your plans are, but you do know what they are.
Speaker 1: It's just it's difficult to get back on the ground
Speaker 1: running no matter what it is you're doing as a
Speaker 1: constant occupation, so to speak, outside of the stuff that
Speaker 1: you have to do on a daily basis. So you know,
Speaker 1: I get it, and believe me, I'm struggling lately. I
Speaker 1: you know, as I'm sitting here talking to you, I'm
Speaker 1: about ready to have to get away from this chair
Speaker 1: because I can't even stay sitting up anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: because things that are going on, and I'm struggling through
Speaker 1: a bunch of crap that I'm not even able to
Speaker 1: talk about right now. But you know, hey, look we're
Speaker 1: gonna do what we're gonna do, and obviously there's always
Speaker 1: a place for you to come on and talk about
Speaker 1: stuff with me anytime, but I'll be interested in seeing
Speaker 1: what it is you do record. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: what it is you have to say, and you know,
Speaker 1: little analysis on somebody who's actually familiar with the material
Speaker 1: when it comes to the epscene stuff, you know, more
Speaker 1: than myself. I mean, even trying to approach Opperman lately
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: It's been weird.
Speaker 1: I re released some old episodes, even with you and
Speaker 1: him on them, just to show people that, you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about this ten years ago, you know,
Speaker 1: so this is not new you know, oh this is
Speaker 1: brand new stuff.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: We knew about it here it is, you know, just
Speaker 1: to demonstrate to people that know this stuff existed quite
Speaker 1: a long time and you should be asking yourself why
Speaker 1: it was ignored for so long, okay, which I think
Speaker 1: is a fair thing to ask. But then again, you
Speaker 1: immerse yourself in that crap. We talked about this, you
Speaker 1: know before, when you were planning on writing a book.
Speaker 1: You immerse yourself in that kind of grease and guess
Speaker 1: what you feel greasy? So you know it's something you
Speaker 1: don't want to stay in and you can see some
Speaker 1: of the insanity that goes on and also some of
Speaker 1: the changing positions and shifting sands among people for political reasons.
Speaker 1: Can't you you know, I don't mean you Pierce, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyway, with all that in mind, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: anything you want to point us to or I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they can always go to Porkin's Policy review dot com.
Speaker 1: I'll give a link in the show notes, you know.
Speaker 2: Catch up on old stuff. Please do search Epstein over there.
Speaker 3: I've kind of come kind of removed myself almost entirely
Speaker 3: from social media stuff. I mean, I still I still
Speaker 3: have a Twitter at count, but I don't tweet and
Speaker 3: I don't really use it. But yeah, so, I mean,
Speaker 3: if people wanted to, if they were interested in getting
Speaker 3: in touch, just Parkin's policy at gmail dot com is
Speaker 3: the easiest way there you go.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I definitely advise you do that. And again,
Speaker 1: Pierce is a busy guy lately, but who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll see him re emerge with you know, something in
Speaker 1: the content sphere, or who knows, he might have stuff
Speaker 1: in his archives to release at some point that would
Speaker 1: sound a whole lot newer than you might think, even
Speaker 1: if it's over a decade old, because it's just it's
Speaker 1: been a long journey with some of this stuff. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just the Epstein files that we
Speaker 1: might have hit upon ahead of the curve. But it's
Speaker 1: possible that you know, guys like Pierce and myself might
Speaker 1: have been talking about stuff a while ago that you're
Speaker 1: just now starting to pay attention to for one reason
Speaker 1: or another. Which is funny because I remember the whole
Speaker 1: modeling agency thing coming up with Brunell and and you know,
Speaker 1: Casablancis and and.
Speaker 2: Like people are like, who the hell are these people?
Speaker 1: You know, like years and years ago, and now it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like people are versed in it, going, well,
Speaker 1: yeah I knew about that, and O Trump had a
Speaker 1: modeling agency, Oh wow, yeah he did.
Speaker 4: Everyone is you know, I'm expert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these experts out there where they're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: just discovered this, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, call me when you catch up. You know.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's been good to talk to you, and I
Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed the the analysis and the dive
Speaker 1: into the latest South Park and this was intentionally done
Speaker 1: so we didn't cover news and didn't cover the current
Speaker 1: Greece and politics because I'm burnt out anyway, and I
Speaker 1: know some of you are, so hopefully you guys enjoy this,
Speaker 1: and I would still overall give it, you know, South
Speaker 1: Park definitely a thumbs up, like it's worth watching this
Speaker 1: season and it's very fast paced and is topical. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think it's gonna have some
Speaker 1: staying power in its relevance later on, just with.
Speaker 2: The way the jokes were built.
Speaker 1: But you won't know that until a year or two
Speaker 1: from now when everybody forgets everything.
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