WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.759 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.800 single day on your favorite podcast platform. So much data 6 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:19.120 pointing toward a Trump victory. You've been discussing that at length, 7 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:22.239 having a lot of fun in the process. As you know, 8 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:25.480 lefty heads are exploding all around us, as we're just 9 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.399 two weeks away right now, going to shift gears for 10 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:30.879 a second and then come back to the national race. 11 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.039 Want to talk about something very important locally. I know 12 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:36.479 it can be frustrating in Colorado because we're not a 13 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.359 swing state right now. We don't have presidential candidates here. 14 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:41.880 Some folks wondering does it even make sense to vote? 15 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.240 And please, please, please vote, because you have a chance 16 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.119 to help stop one of the worst things to ever 17 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:53.159 appear in any ballot anywhere in America, and that is 18 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.039 Amendments seventy nine, which would legalize in fantaside and do. 19 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:57.920 So much more. 20 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:01.399 But healthy mom, healthy baby, nine months, ten seconds from delivery. 21 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.359 It would be in our constitution that you could kill 22 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.120 that child, right there and by the way, taxpayers have 23 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.480 to pay for it, and no more parntal notifications. So 24 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.680 I want to welcome back to the show, doctor Catherine Wheeler. 25 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:17.959 And doctor Wheeler has joined us before. She's incredibly impressive 26 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.879 in so many different ways, but she can add value 27 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.640 to you on this from a medical standpoint. Doctor, welcome 28 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:24.959 back to the Dan Kapli show. 29 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:27.920 Thank you, Dan, it's great to be with you again. 30 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:30.040 Well, thank you, and I want to focus on a 31 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:32.560 couple of things in particular today doctor, But for those 32 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:34.680 who weren't with us last time, I want to mention 33 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:36.840 and I think it's so courageous on your part to 34 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:39.840 be willing to talk about this that you used to 35 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.599 do abortions, so you know of what you speak and 36 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:45.439 so I'd like to come out of the gate and 37 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.879 ask you, from your medical standpoint to describe what it 38 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:55.799 is that the abortion industry is asking Colorado to put 39 00:01:55.840 --> 00:02:01.599 in its constitution. What this procedure, this healthy mom, healthy baby, 40 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.359 nine months or late term, what this procedure actually involves. 41 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:08.400 And just a quick warning, if I make doctor to 42 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.960 our audience, this is going to be graphics. So if 43 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.520 it's kids in the car or if it's you or 44 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:15.919 anybody else, I'd understand because what they're asking you to 45 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.000 put in the Constitution is so horrific that we have 46 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.719 to issue a warning before we tell the truth about it. 47 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.240 So with that said, doctor, please just tell people the truth. 48 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.080 Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that because I've had people 49 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.360 tell me when I explain it. If people knew what 50 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:33.879 this was, they wouldn't be for it, right, So I 51 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:37.120 appreciate the opportunity. And it really depends on how big 52 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:40.400 the baby is. I mean, that makes sense, right, You've 53 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:42.439 got a little, tiny baby the size of a lime, 54 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.120 or you have a full time, a full size baby 55 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.680 that's ready to be delivered. So in the first trimesters 56 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.479 it's suction. I'll move on to the second trimester, which 57 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:56.759 is the one that I unfortunately did, where you dilate 58 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.039 the cervix. The cervix is meant to keep the baby 59 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.879 in until deliver, so it's tightly closed. In normal pregnancy, 60 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.120 that usually involves putting little dilators in the day before 61 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:11.240 it's actually sterilized seaweed called laminaria gradually expands the next 62 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.840 day they come in. I did them under generally an 63 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.879 esthesia because they hurt, so my patients had generally anesthesia. 64 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.000 I dilated the cervix with metal dilators, and then you 65 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.120 have to get the baby out. So we're now talking 66 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.840 over thirteen weeks. The baby's head is too big to 67 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:30.520 come out of the cervix. Unfortunately, the babies alive. They 68 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.719 told us at the time, the babies don't feel pain. 69 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.680 We know now babies feel pain. That's why there's feed 70 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:39.719 al anesthesia. As early as twelve weeks. They can feel pain. 71 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.719 But literally you put in a clamping instrument and you 72 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.560 crush the baby's head to get it out, and then 73 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.879 you take the baby apart in pieces and then use 74 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.319 a little what's called a curette. It looks like a 75 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.840 little metal loop. After you suction out the blasena to 76 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:59.599 feel and try to be sure you haven't left anything in. 77 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.400 Done in the third trimester, as the baby's over twenty 78 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:07.599 four weeks approximately, so the later ones, you know you've 79 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:11.039 now got a really big baby that has strong bone 80 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:13.840 and strong cartilage. You can't get the baby out the 81 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.560 same way, and so you end up inducing labor, which 82 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:22.000 is a multi day cervical dilation process similar to what 83 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:27.000 I described. And then a literal induction of labor, but 84 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.399 half of those babies would be born alive, and the 85 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.639 purpose of an abortion is to not have a live burst. 86 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.360 That's how the CDC's describes that, which you and I 87 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.600 both know means the baby has to be dead, and 88 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.480 so they do what's called feet aside first, and I 89 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.160 know doctor Peril explain that, but the most common drug 90 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.480 is a heart drug given in a huge overdose, either 91 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.399 injected into the fluid that then the baby has to absorb, 92 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.759 which is a slow, just horribly terrific painful process, or 93 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.759 they injected into the baby's body or heart, which then 94 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.240 takes minutes to hours, but the babies literally thrash around. 95 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:10.759 They warn the moms to expect unusually strong movement of 96 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.879 the baby, and then the horribly sad thing is then 97 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.639 the baby quits moving, and then you've got to get 98 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.639 the baby out, and so it's an induction. Warren Hearn 99 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.079 says that he removes the baby with instruments once she's dilated, 100 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.160 which is also dangerous to put things like forceps into 101 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.959 a woman's uterus to get a baby out. So they're 102 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.439 all complicated procedures. After you're out of the first trimester, 103 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:38.040 and they're dangerous for women, and they're done in unregulated clinics, 104 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:43.079 unlicensed clinics, unlike any other healthcare. So one of my 105 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.399 big concerns is I'm, of course concerned about the baby, 106 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.879 but I'm also really concerned about my other patient, a 107 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.120 woman whom I dearly love. So those are my big 108 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:58.079 concerns about the abortion. It's a horrific process. The women 109 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:04.120 suffer through it. They then once they're committed, unfortunately it's 110 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.720 too late. I mean, it just breaks my heart for 111 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:08.519 them too. 112 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.519 Doctor Catherine Wheeler, our guest. She has performed abortions, as 113 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.000 you heard her describe. But I think the starting point 114 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:22.319 for people listening has to be that this is sad, 115 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.439 it's barbaric. We can't be this way as a people, 116 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.000 and we sure as hell can't have it in our constitution. 117 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:33.199 Yeah. Well, and then once the course is in the constitution, 118 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.839 as we start seeing problems, because problems are going to 119 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.600 come up in an unregulated industry. So the medical fields 120 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.560 learned a lot from the airline industry. You're younger than me, 121 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.600 but I remember a lot of airline crashes when I 122 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:49.920 was growing up, and you just don't hear about them anymore. 123 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.600 And that's because they took a very serious approach to 124 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.839 quality improvement and safety, and the medical profession back in 125 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.959 the nineteen nineties learned from them. There was a big 126 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:04.279 report called to Aerish Human and so there was all 127 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.959 this movement towards safety, and so there's a lot of oversight. 128 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.920 Thank goodness, all of us want oversight. We all want 129 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:16.000 to be protected from medical error in complications. And I 130 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:18.959 just wonder from the abortion industry, why don't they want 131 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:19.680 that for women? 132 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.000 Oh, they don't care about women, right, I mean, listen, 133 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.560 if this whole thing's anti woman from the jump, I mean, 134 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:30.519 you know better than I that at least half of 135 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:33.120 these killings are a female. 136 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:34.600 So what are we talking? 137 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.480 Are we talking five six hundred thousand females a year 138 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.319 being killed by abortion? They obviously don't care about the 139 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.240 mother's health. Because your point, doctor, and please expand on it, 140 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:48.720 because you actually practice in the profession, is that Amendments 141 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:52.000 seventy nine is going to make it even harder than 142 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.240 it is now to have these basic safety regulations in 143 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:56.160 place for the mother. 144 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.800 That's exactly right. And you know, again all of their 145 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:04.759 healthcare has it the same procedure, and an ambulatory surgical 146 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:09.120 center would have credential doctors. You have to show that 147 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.959 you've done these procedures. You actually have medical committees that 148 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:17.959 overlook your care. Every complication is evaluated by an entire committee, 149 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.680 because we all know we are even more careful when 150 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:25.279 we know somebody's looking over our shoulder and they're inspected 151 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.000 on a regular basis. But none of that happens in 152 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:33.399 the abortion clinics, birthing centers. The same thing they outline 153 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.320 birthing centers, the free standing ones, they don't do complicated 154 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.519 or pre term birth because they're risky. They all go 155 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.440 to the hospital and they're all regulated and licensed. And again, 156 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.759 these late abortions are inductions of delivery after the baby 157 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:54.960 is killed through feet aside. So it just doesn't make 158 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.919 sense why we wouldn't offer the same care for women 159 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.440 who are choosing abortion. Whether abortions right or not is 160 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.559 a whole other issue, and what happens to the babies 161 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:10.080 is another issue. But today we're talking about the mom well, and. 162 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:12.919 I'm so grateful that you've come on the show as 163 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.279 somebody who has done abortions and you've described the medical 164 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:21.360 reality of this killing process, and hopefully that will allow 165 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.480 people listening, whether they agree with my position an abortion 166 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.679 or somebody else's, to know the facts, to be able 167 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.960 to go out and convince the people they can persuade 168 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:34.840 that this cannot it must not be in our constitution. 169 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:35.879 We are better than this. 170 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:39.000 But doctor, I'd like to get you back a bunch 171 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.639 before election day and after election day, because obviously this 172 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.600 battle to save innocent life continues after election day. But 173 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.080 grateful for your time today. 174 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:51.240 Thank you so much for asking me. And I'd be 175 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:52.519 happy to be on anytime. 176 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.600 Thank you, Thank you, doctor. You take care. That's a 177 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.519 true hero, doctor Catherine Wheeler, true hero. And I've always said, 178 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.559 you know the and I've been very fortunate to be 179 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.159 exposed to the pro life movement since Roe and I 180 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.159 was a little boy. But I can still picture my 181 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:11.080 mother and she's as I picture. 182 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.519 And this is a lot of years ago, right, so 183 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:13.639 who knows if. 184 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.559 This memory is correct, But basement of Holy Cross Hospital 185 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.679 at sixty seventh and Kedzie in Chicago, and it was 186 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.679 one soon after Roe, as I remember, and it was 187 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.919 my mom representative Henry Hyde, trying to organize the first 188 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:33.480 group of people to push back against Roe, So don't 189 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.480 quote me on the exact timing, but I just I 190 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.799 can picture my mom and Henry Hyde in the basement, 191 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.919 and at most there were one or two other people 192 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:44.919 who showed up, and then the movement just sort of 193 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.519 grew from there. And obviously there were lots of people 194 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:51.159 doing this all over the country. But I've always said 195 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.159 that to me, the biggest heroes of the pro life 196 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.120 movement are the women who've had abortions and have now 197 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.879 come to be pro life advocates. Just think about all 198 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:05.200 the courage that takes, and then the doctors who performed 199 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.600 abortions like our last guest, and then come to be 200 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.039 pro life advocates. Look at Pro Life Colorado. You can 201 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:12.600 find out how to help fight this. You're on the 202 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:13.720 Dan Capla Show. 203 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.120 And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast. 204 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.559 I just saw a pole that we're actually leading with hispanics. 205 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:22.759 Has never happened before. 206 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.720 I don't know, but I don't know, but it's going 207 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:27.320 to be close. 208 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:28.840 I mean, she's sleeping right now. 209 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:30.360 She couldn't go on the trail. 210 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:32.879 You know, you think when you have fourteen days left, 211 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.039 you wouldn't be sleeping. She's not doing anything today, I 212 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.759 should take one of that. I've We've gone fifty two 213 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.200 days in a row and I'm going fourteen more days, 214 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.320 and we're going to have a big victory party, hopefully, 215 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.559 and we're going to turn our country around. We're going 216 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.279 to make it great again. As I say, We're going 217 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:51.600 to make America great again. 218 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:53.919 Oh glad you're here. And I think this is going 219 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.159 to be one of the most fun stretches of your life. 220 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.960 If like me, you really want Trump to win. You 221 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.519 wanted to win for all the right reasons, And it's 222 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.080 going to be an amazing couple of weeks because we're 223 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.039 watching the Left exposed before our eyes, right, and so 224 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.559 need Trump to win for all those reasons, but also 225 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.840 need a lot of good people in America who don't 226 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.679 understand it's not your parents' Democratic Party anymore. It's not 227 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.840 even the Democratic Party you had ten years ago. Left 228 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.440 needs to keep exposing itself and they are in so 229 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:24.879 many ways here now. Some of the funnier ways, right, 230 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:29.039 is Jake Tapper so desperate to stop Trump he thinks 231 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.519 that Trump telling a story about Arnold Palmer in the 232 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.720 shower is it's going to bring down Trump. 233 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:39.919 Stories about Arnold Palmer's penis and spoke about the size 234 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:40.480 of a. 235 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.759 Pro golfer's penis. 236 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:46.080 Isn't talking about Arnold Palmer's penis in front of Pennsylvania. 237 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:50.279 Voters, Mike Chank, you seem to like that line a lot. 238 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.240 Let me tell you that Donald Trump. 239 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.799 Around the country just say something I don't want to 240 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:00.039 be talking about. Donald Trump is out there saying it. 241 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:02.240 It is what you continue to Let's talk about well, 242 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.279 because you will, we won't address it. He is out 243 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:10.720 there talking about I'll address it. Let me, okay, atter it, Okay, 244 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:11.559 don't say it again. 245 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.120 You know what Mike Johnson was thinking as Jake asked 246 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.840 him that question, He was thinking, I wish it was 247 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.159 a week ago and I was in that interview with 248 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:21.840 that nice guy Dan Kapliss. 249 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.000 That's what he was thinking. 250 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.519 I think because I guarantee you I didn't ask him 251 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:28.440 a thing about Arnold Palmer's anatomy. But the fact that 252 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:30.840 Jake Tapper would think, oh, no, no, that this is 253 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:35.320 somehow going to bring Trump down just truly shows'mron smart 254 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.399 people saying moronic things, but also losing their minds in 255 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.200 front of her eyes because they can see what's unfolding. 256 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.039 Nothing's guaranteed, right, but from everything we can see and 257 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.919 everything I think I've been able to see for a 258 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:51.600 long time. Yeah, No, Trump is going to win. I 259 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.960 just hope that he wins in such a large way 260 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.360 that it's the start of unifying the country, unifying the 261 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:02.720 country around own success. I'm not talking about the silver bullet, 262 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:04.720 magic fix or anything else. This is going to be 263 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.159 an incremental process of unifying the country. And the bigger 264 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.600 the win, the more unity. David and Centennial. You're on 265 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.240 the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome, Hey, Dan, live in the dream? 266 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:17.039 My friend? 267 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.480 Hey, yeah, Dan, Who do you think knows Trump better? 268 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.039 You or Mike Pence? 269 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:23.399 Probably me? 270 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:26.240 Why is that? 271 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.480 Well? Is Socrates is dead? My friend? I'm you know, 272 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.000 just make your point. 273 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:37.480 As do you know uh Trump better than Mark Milly? 274 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.320 Oh, you're talking about the general who surrendered Afghanistan and 275 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.919 got our people killed and left behind enemy lines and 276 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.320 gave up billions of dollars in equipment. 277 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:47.799 That guy. 278 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.679 That's a yes or no question, Dan, Well. 279 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.279 That mine to use a yes or no? Is that 280 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:54.679 the general you're talking about? 281 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:56.240 Yeah, that's the one. 282 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.960 Yeah, I'm telling you, I give give him his story 283 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.320 given his failures. I'm just being honest with you. I 284 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:06.600 have consummate respect for the men and women who serve 285 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.000 by virtue of the fact they served. I have no 286 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.759 faith in that guy, just based on his performance. 287 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.480 And how about Rex Tellerson. How about half the cabinet 288 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.440 members he had in four years don't support him? 289 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:20.720 Okay? How about the ones who do? 290 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.159 Folks? 291 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.600 Yeah, how about the ones who do? What about those 292 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:29.919 guys and guests? Well, just issued a letter with several 293 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:37.000 hundred who do like No, No, I wasn't talking about 294 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:37.679 cabinet members. 295 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:43.039 Cabinet members, Okay, okay, yeah, Well boy, it's impossible to 296 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.399 keep up with you, David because of whatever, yes it is, 297 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.759 whatever level of anger now is causing you to be 298 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:51.080 irrational and not want. 299 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:51.759 To answer questions. 300 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:53.279 Answering the question. 301 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.960 Oh no, I'm answering. I'm answering directly, David. So tell 302 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.240 me tell me this, my friend. How do you think 303 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.000 I'm not your therapist. I'm not your therapist. You're not 304 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.320 going to get screen therapy here him, David. 305 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:06.840 Tell me this. 306 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.360 Okay, why do you think why do you think America 307 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.519 is going to be safer with Kamala Harris's commander in 308 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.720 chief in view of the last four years, and she's 309 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.720 not critical of anything Biden did versus Trump. 310 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:21.200 Remember when Trump was president. 311 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.559 What I care a lot more about David than what 312 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.759 Mark Milly says or some cabinet member, especially those who 313 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.879 got fired. What I care a lot more about is 314 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.360 what I experienced, and what I experienced as a nation 315 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:37.720 was was predominantly peace and prosperity. I saw solomony taken out. 316 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.080 I saw the enemies afraid to pull the murderous stuff 317 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.679 they've pulled since Harris Biden took off. As you heard 318 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.200 Harris say that, oh no, she wouldn't do one thing 319 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:50.600 differently from the pull out to Afghanistan to anything we've 320 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.039 seen in Ukraine, et cetera. So, David, what I saw 321 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.399 was I saw Putin didn't go into Ukraine when Trump 322 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.960 was president. He went into Ukraine when Obama was, He 323 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.799 went in when Biden and Hair were on the job. 324 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:04.240 He didn't when Trump did. So I'm talking about. 325 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.839 Not what anybody in the belt Way has to say 326 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.839 about Trump, whether they worked from or not. I'm talking 327 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.480 about what I saw with my own eyes as he 328 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.400 was president. So tell me why Kamala Harris would be 329 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.039 a better commander in chief than Trump. 330 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:18.039 So you cannot. 331 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.440 So you're a one trick pony man. Come on, step up, 332 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.960 step up, be an adult. We're talking about a decision 333 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.839 here on who the commander in chief is. So you 334 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:31.119 called this show with one little line of attack. You 335 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.079 tell us what you stand for. You tell us what 336 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.400 you stand for. No, you answer my question first, I 337 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.640 answered Jeers. I'm going to put him on pause. If 338 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:41.480 he wants to run away like a little chicken, he can. 339 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:45.119 So you tell me, my friend, what makes you believe 340 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.519 that Kamala Harris will be a better commander in chief 341 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:48.279 than Donald Trump? 342 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.319 And you know what, you get five full minutes to. 343 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.319 Think about it. I'll give you five days to think 344 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:54.680 about it. You won't be able to come up with 345 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.440 the darn thing. So when we come back, David, instead 346 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.519 of all the little snark snark inside the belt stuff, 347 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.039 you tell me what have you seen with your own 348 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.839 eyes that tells you Kamala Harris would be a better 349 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:09.039 commander in chief than Donald Trump? Can't wait to come 350 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.599 back at five point thirty five with David from Centennial 351 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.119 on the Dan Capla Show. 352 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.720 You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast. 353 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.279 She is a. 354 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.240 Character almost out of the movies, that of a man 355 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.200 for all seasons. I've never seen a more heroic figure 356 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.920 than Liz Cheney. She lost her her state probably forever, 357 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:35.559 she lost her party, she lost her leadership in the 358 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.079 Republican House. She could have been on her way to speaker. 359 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:40.599 It was very probable. 360 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:42.960 She gave it all way in the interest of truth. 361 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:44.559 That's what she stood for. 362 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.119 It's amazing to me how few people have gotten behind her. 363 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.799 But now one person that's got behind her is Kamala Harris. 364 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:54.319 And why do you think that is? 365 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:57.079 We've got to spend a minute on this list Chenny thing, 366 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.640 because this is all under the umbrella right of the 367 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.960 left losing their minds, as it's not two weeks away, right, 368 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.720 and all lights are flashing green, and nothing's guaranteed, but 369 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.279 it sure looks like Donald Trump's going to win, and 370 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.720 so we're going to be treated to at least a 371 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.480 couple of weeks, and if Trump does win, far beyond 372 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.000 that of the left just melting down in front of us. Now, 373 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.200 there's another category, right, We've talked about it on the 374 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:25.119 show before, of people who just go insane, And sometimes 375 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.880 they start out on the right, like Liz Cheney, but 376 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.240 then they get in a personal beef with Trump, and 377 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.480 then all of a sudden, right and wrong doesn't matter anymore. 378 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:38.000 Even the lives of a million innocent children a year 379 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:39.160 don't matter anymore. 380 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:40.880 They've got to get back out Trump. 381 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.480 So Liz Cheney goes out and sits on a stage 382 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:49.440 with Kamala Harris and tries to help Harris get votes 383 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:50.559 from pro life people. 384 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:51.559 I mean, think about that. 385 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.079 You're talking about a person here for years got elected 386 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.960 saying they were pro life, and a person who must 387 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.400 know right because any thinking on his person. No, it's 388 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:02.440 just science, it's not religion or anything else. That's a 389 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:05.599 baby you're killing. And so Liz Cheney is willing to 390 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:10.359 sacrifice all those innocent human lives for years to come 391 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.359 so she can get back at Donald Trump. That's what 392 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.680 I'm talking about. Just sheer madness before our eyes. But 393 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.440 the beauty of it is Harris thinks this is going 394 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:24.079 to help her. Really, Liz Cheney's going to help her. 395 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:26.440 And this is. 396 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.200 Where again that the elitist to run the Democratic Party, 397 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.599 and Kamala Harris is a consummate elitist, they so look 398 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.559 down on people of faith, they so look down on 399 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:42.319 pro life people that they really think. Okay, so your 400 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.720 vote right now is going to be based on the 401 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.200