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Speaker 1: And Hi, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast

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on this Thursday. Today is the twelfth day of February,

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year of Our Lord twenty twenty six. My name is

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Tom Sullivan. And well, we've got a variety of things

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for you today. We have the Democrat Socialist Party is

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growing leaps and bounds. A lot of people made a

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big deal about the fact that the mayor of New

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York City, Mom Donnie, came out and said I'm a

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Democrat Socialist, and people thought, well, he can't win, and

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he won. But before him is the old famous one is,

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of course Bernie Sanders. Bernie has been proclaiming himself as

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a Democrat Socialist for decades. He doesn't vary. He's still

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I always I admire that about him is that he

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is consistent. He says what he believes. You can believe

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him or not, that's another whole story, but he's consistent.

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So you've got Bernie Sanders and you've got now Mayor

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Zoran Mamdani. And Tuesday they had a special election in

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New Jersey to replace the new Governor of New Jersey,

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mikey Ryl. She represented the eleventh district and so they

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had to replace her because she's now the governor. And

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they had well here's the part of best that a

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lot of people aren't reporting. They had eleven people hitting

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the primary for the Democrats and one of them won.

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Her name is ann Alila Mahea and she won, but

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she only got twenty nine percent of the vote. And

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this seat now Congresswomen Elect Anna Alilia Mahea will be

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in office until November, so she has to I know

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she has to run again. And I don't know whether

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they're going to have eleven people they're going to sign

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up or not, but you can see what happens. It

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was split a lot, and the same thing with ma'am

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Donnie when he won, and it's not uncommon when you

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have oh Okashi Cortez AOC. She was the same thing

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they had. She won with I don't know of a

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small percentage of the vote. But my point to you

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is is that Democrats, socialists are starting to win. They

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are starting to win, and I'll tell you what, it's

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something that is growing. Harry Enton, the statistician over at

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C and N, said, this is not an anomaly. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's right, and I think the results from

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that special election, that Democratic primary in the eleventh district

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in New Jersey speak to a larger point within the

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Democratic Party, and that is that the far left is

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significantly more powerful than they once were. This sort of

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gives the game away here Democrats who identify is very

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liberal or conservative. You know, there used to be a

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lot of conservative Democrats right back in nineteen ninety nine,

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twenty six percent of Democrats self identified as conservative, just

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five percent that they were very liberal.

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Speaker 3: It was a smidge and a smidge.

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Speaker 2: And this mentioned now that far left has gained considerably empowered.

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Speaker 3: Look at this.

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking about a fifth of Democrats. Twenty one

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percent say they're very liberal. That conservative part of the

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Democratic Party Addio sim egos could buy just eight percent.

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very liberal with those who say that they're somewhat liberal,

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we're talking about three and five Democrats who identify as

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either somewhat liberal or very liberal. With the very liberals

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a much larger portion of the party. The far left,

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which used to just be a smidgeon within the Democratic Party,

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has gained considerable power, as you saw on New Jerseys

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eleventh disc Okay, so on a separate question, where you essentially,

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CNN asked this last year, which was okay, democrats who

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think on themselves as democratic socialists among all Democrats, including

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those independents who lean towards the Democratic Party. Look at this,

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we're talking about a third, a third of all Democrats

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who identify as Democrats socialists. Bernie Sanders and Zoro Mondani

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are not alone. They are a considerable part of the

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Democratic base at this point.

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Speaker 3: And more than that, if you look at Democrats under

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the age of.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five, they are nearly half, nearly half of the

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Democratic Party. Look at this, forty two percent of Democrats

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think of themselves as democratic socialists under the age of

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Speaker 3: Just like Zora Mundani.

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Speaker 2: That what happened in New York City is not some aberration, right,

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it is not something that just happened in New York City.

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Party at this particular point when we're talking about forty

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two percent of Democrats under the age of thirty five

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identifying as Democrats socialists.

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Speaker 3: And a third of all Democrats, my goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, is right. That is surprising. And the

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younger you are, the more you are probably if you're

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a Democrat, you're leaning toward being a Democrat socialist. So

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stand by. This is not going to I thought it

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would go away. I thought the squad was just the squad.

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joined together on the far left. But it's much more

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than that. Yeah, it's it is much more than that,

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in the sense that up in Maine there is a

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race for between two Democrats. Graham Plantner. He's an oyster

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fisherman and he decided to get into politics, and he's

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running to be a Congressman from Maine against a Governor Mills,

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who has been the governor for two terms. Very popular governor,

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big Democrat, and so she is a moderate. Graham Plantner

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is a progressive. He has referred to himself as a communist.

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He trashes white rural Americans as racist and stupid. He's white,

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by the way. He downplanes concerns about sexual assault in

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the military, and apparently he has a Nazi symbol tattooed

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on his chest. So let me ask you who do

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you think is ahead in the race in Maine, This

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Graham Plantner or the moderate governor Mills. That's right, Graham

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Plantner is way ahead in the polls. And then in

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Los ange Angelas, a member of the city Council who

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considers herself a Democrat socialist, she has thrown her hat

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into the ring. She's running for the mayor of Los Angeles,

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so we'll keep an eye on her as well. This

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is Anna Lilia Mahea. At a rally.

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Speaker 4: People will say that this district is not the kind

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of district in which a progressive or a left he

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could win. But it's not about left right, it's.

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Speaker 3: About right and wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, zip code doesn't protect us from rising violent authoritarianism.

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Speaker 3: We must abolish ICE. We must turn off.

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Speaker 4: This figot, we must stop the data collection, we must

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stop the immunity, we must have accountability.

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Speaker 1: So she wants the violence to stop, and she wants

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a big government to stop, but she also wants to

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get rid of defund ICE, and that's in the same

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It can replace ICE with the fund police. They're a

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police agency, they're a law enforcement agency. So Carl Rowe

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was asked, well, Carl, is this really happening and if so,

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what are the Republicans going to do about it? There? Yeah, Well, first,

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these are two different questions, does it help the Democrats

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politically to have left wingers like this win nominations, And

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the answer is no. You know, outside of blue places,

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the kind of things that you just heard from this

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New Jersey candidate abolish ice. That's sort of like defund

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the police. That didn't work out too well for the Democrats.

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term election when the White House is held by Republican

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but they're going to diminish that impact in my opinion,

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if they continue to nominate left wingers, because she may

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be running in a district that can elect that kind

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of a person. But those kind of comments are going

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to raise questions for Democrats all across the country, just

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like the efforts of Mayor Mom DAMMI are going to

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be raised questions about, well, do you agree with the

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mayor of New York who is a Democratic socialist doing

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x so No, not helpful for the Democrats. I've seen

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this drama before twenty ten. The Republicans had an excellent

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chance to pick up the US Senate and pick up

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Senate seats across the country. We nominated subpar candidates who

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are too far to the right in places like Nevada

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and Delaware and loss seats that we should have otherwise

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picked up. Okay, so in some of these really blue,

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blue blue districts, you can elect the person that's a

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Democrat socialist and the people are fine with it. But again,

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how much of this message is being spread across the

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country and people in other districts good Democrats are going

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to go I don't want socialists running our party. Yeah,

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but you're right, it's going to work to their disadvantage.

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I loved it that the Democratic National Chairman said we're

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going to help her and we're going to have resources

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and so forth. Democratic National Committee is in debt. It

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has three million dollars more in bills that it owes

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then it has money in the bank account. Think about that.

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We're going into election year. The Republican National Committee has

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ninety seven million dollars in the bank and no debt,

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and the Democratic National Committee has has three million dollars

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more in bills that it has to pay than it

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has money in the bank to pay them. The Republican

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National Committee, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the Congressional Campaign Committee,

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and the two big super packs connected with the House

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and Senate for the Republicans have a combined three hundred

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and twenty million dollars cash on hand as it ended

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the last reporting period. Their Democrat counterparts have a grand

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total of one hundred and thirty seven million, So it's

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approaching two and a half, nearly three to one. But

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then you put into it Donald Trump has. President Trump

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has the maga ink pack that has three hundred and

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four million dollars in its account, and then several other

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groups that have a total of seventy. So add the

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three twenty plus the three zero four plus the three seventy,

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and you got over six hundred million dollars to spend

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on the campaign versus one hundred and thirty seven point

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two for the Democrats. The question is is is there

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anything the Democrats can do with their low dollar group,

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their low dollar fundraising entity. It's called Act Blue, and

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it has a demonstrated record going back to the mid

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two thousands of generating small dollar gifts for Democratic congressional

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and senatorial candidates. And the question is can it even

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it up? And the answer probably is yes, But I

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think it's too steep a hill to climb. If you

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just take a quick look and Georgia. It's helped Asouf

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then comment, senator raised sixty three point nine million dollars

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his Republican opponents who are running in a primary twelve

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and a half in North Carolina, Governor Cooper, the Democratic

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likely nominee, nearly eighteen million, the Republican five point two.

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In Ohio, again, the Democrat is ahead. But today this

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giant block of money that the Republicans have, Democrats are

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not going to be able to, in my opinion, raise

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Speaker 1: I like Carl, and he probably REOs his stuff backwards

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and forward. But I have also seen where somebody raises

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a lot of money, much more than their opponent, and

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yet they still lose. Money doesn't always equal victory. So

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the Democrats are way behind in the money count. But

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that doesn't mean that there's a groundswell of people in

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the Democrat Party. Young people. That's how Ma'm donnie got elected.

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Young people and they came out and droves, and they

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know there wasn't the money behind any of that. So

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we'll see what happens. But at this point, to quote

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They're growing, So keep an eye on all of that meantime. Also,

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this was from earlier today Katie Britt, the Republican senator.

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She was asked about the Save Act, the Save Act,

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this is the act that is wildly popular. Democrats, Republicans, Independents,

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all by major majorities, all are in favor of the

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Save Act. It's essentially people need to show photo ID

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when they vote. Now, I thought about this and it's

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better than not in my humble opinion. But fake ID

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fake ID. Go online and get a driver's license with

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your name or somebody else's name in your photo on

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it from almost any state in the Union. But at

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the same time, it passed the House and it's over

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in the Senate today, And this is what Katie Britt

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Speaker 5: Look, what we need as Democrats to continue to have

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dialogue and to operate in good faith. They wanted a

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two week c R. We allowed them to have that

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to have these conversations and negotiations, and Dana, it took

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them a week to come up with that list that

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them three more days to come up with legislative texts.

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came out with legislative text to them last night. I

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think it's really important we continue this dialogue and also

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realize what's at stake. A partial shutdown of homeland security

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is an actual shutdown of all things that keep Americans

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safe and our border and our country secure. So you're

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shutting down FEMA, you're shutting down TSA, you're shutting down

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the Coast Guard, you're shutting down Secret Service, amongst the

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important work that Border patrol and ice do. And I

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think it's really important that we stand shoulder to shoulder

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with our law enforcement officers, that we stand for the law,

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that we stand for enforcing it. We know the way

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you do that matters, and we want to do that

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the right way. The President is committed to that. I

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think you've seen that from him. You saw him reach

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out to the governor. You saw the President reach out

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to the mayor. You saw Christy Nome say we're going

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to send body cameras out throughout these agents that are

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here in our interior. You've seen what Tom Holman's done today.

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So for any Democrat to say we are doing anything

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but operating good faith is absolutely false. And what this

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means is by not allowing us to continue this conversation

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by actually shutting down the department, they're playing politics. They're

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not taking the wins. They're not helping us continue to

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do better and be better. They want a political issue.

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You just heard it from the candidate that was on

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the screen right before me where she said she wanted

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to abolish ICE and look, Republicans aren't going to let

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that happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, bottom line, the vote did well. The Senate went home. Yeah,

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the Senate left, so the vote is not going to happen.

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The deadline for the continuing Resolution for DHS is those

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runs out tomorrow night at midnight, So DHS will shut

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down tomorrow night at midnight. ICE. No, they're going to

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stay in business. They have funding through twenty twenty nine.

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But you heard what she said, but Coastguard TSA, FEMA

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a handful. But DHS is going to be unfunded as

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of tomorrow night at midnight, and the Senate has gone

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for the long weekend. You've got President's Day on Monday,

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so they're out of town. I know it's Thursday, but

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they laughed. So save Act is basically dead. Now. She

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mentioned Tom Holman. He had a news conference early this

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morning in Minneapolis, and it was I don't know, about

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fifteen minutes or so. It wasn't long, but he came

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out and made a couple of announcements. One of them

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was that, well, listen to what Tom Holman said about

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the fact that they found a huge number of unaccompanied minors,

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illegals that are by them little kids that are by

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themselves in Minneapolis, unaccompanied miners. This is what he said.

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Speaker 6: In addition to taking public safety threats off the street,

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ice here in this state, have located three thousand, three

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hundred and sixty four missing unaccompanied alien children, children that

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the last administration lost and weren't even looking for.

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Speaker 1: I know they're villified, but to find three three hundred

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and sixty four unaccompanied minors not They may be seventeen

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year olds or they could be seven year olds. I

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don't know, but that's the result so far. And then

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he went on to basically make the big part of

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the announcement, here's Tom Holman with.

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Speaker 6: That and success that has been made to rest in

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public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began.

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As well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have

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obtained from state officials and local law enforcement. I have

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proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude.

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A significant drawdown has already been underway this week and

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we'll continue to the next week. We have a lot

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of work to do across this country to remove public

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safety risk who shouldn't even be in this country, and

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to deliver on President Trunk's primis for strong border security,

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mass deportation. Law enforcement officers drawn down from this surge

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operation will either return to the duty station or be

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signed elsewhere to achieve just that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he mentioned in his news conference, he talked

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about the surge you heard him has concluded and a

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significant drawdown of their agents. In fact, he said essentially

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that they had two thousand agents there. They're going to

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bring it back to just the field office, which is

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one hundred and fifty, So all but one hundred and

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fifty are leaving small footprint at the field office in

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Saint Paul. He says he'll remain in Minneapolis for a

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few more days for a little while to oversee the transition.

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I mean, it's he basically reflects smart law enforcement leadership

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that was missing. It just wasn't set upright, It wasn't managed.

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There were more than one lines of communication. Tom Homan

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went in. It did not take him long. He also

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complimented the mayor and the governor and the sheriffs and

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everybody else because now ICE can do exactly what they

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were asking to do, is they can go into jails

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and take custody of illegals that have been arrested for

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a crime and take them and deport them. So it's

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pretty amazing to see Homan walk in and all of

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a sudden get all the things that the previous management.

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I was going to say leaders, but they weren't leaders.

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Previous management was unable to do. By the way, I

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saw an interview the other day, I wasn't interviewed ahead

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of the Customs and Border Protection. They were all testifying

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before a House committee, and one of the members of

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the committee asked the head of CPB about how long

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is your training and he literally said twenty seven days.

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That's it, twenty seven days. There isn't a law enforcement

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officer out there that has such little training. So no

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wonder what happened in Minneapolis was an absolute mess. So

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Tom Holman knows what he's doing. He's smart. He put

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law enforcement smart law enforcement management in the place. And

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the funding battle in Congress doesn't affect ICE, but it

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will affect the other parts of DHS. And they're going

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after Christy Nome and I get that. I see what

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they're doing. But if you're looking for Coastguard, THEMA or well,

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I don't know what's going to TSA. I feel bad

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for the Blue Shirts. What did they do wrong? Nothing,

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but they're going to have to show up for work

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Saturday without a paycheck. Okay, let's get to the latest

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on what's going on with Savannah Guthrie's mother. This is

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day twelve that Nancy Guthrie has been missing. Today there

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was another note that was sent to TMC was It

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arrived about eleven o'clock Eastern time this morning, and it

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was sent by the same person who sent another letter

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Wednesday demanding one bitcoin in return for whoever wrote the

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note said that they know the name of the person

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who abducted Nancy Guthrie and so we don't know who

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this is. So they again today sent another note demanding

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one bitcoin, which is about sixty five thousand dollars. The

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author expressed fears that he might be incriminated like that

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Carlos guy. That's the guy that was picked up the

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other night, the FedEx delivery driver down in Rio Rico,

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and they interviewed him, quizzed him for about three hours

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they did, and they released him. So that is that

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was in the note today. In addition to that, the

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FBI is asking everybody in that area to go back.

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They started off by saying, we want you to go

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back and show us check your check your videos on

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your doorbells on January eleventh and January thirty first. Eleventh

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was a Sunday, and they are looking at the eleventh

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for some reason. And then later or they said, okay,

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everybody in the neighborhood, we want you to go back

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and check all of your home videos from January first

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to January thirty first. So that was sent to everybody

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on a neighborhood app that covers an area of about

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two mile radius around Nancy's home in Tucson. So the

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FBI also confirmed that they have received several potentially key

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pieces of evidence. They yesterday said they had they found

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a glove. Now they're saying plural. They found a pair

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of gloves, and they have other potentially significant pieces of

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evidence as well. Here's a little bit from James Gagliano,

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who has been one of the authorities that has been

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talking to the media.

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Speaker 7: You not only have to do the flat foot work.

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You don't not only have to go out to local

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five and dime show, to sporting goods stores, to canvas,

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the Walmarts and the home depots in places like that.

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You also have to look at online purchases, and that

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expands the aperture exponentially. You can still do that even

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if you pay cash and you went to Walmart and

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you happen to purchase this, you can still track that.

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This is time consuming. This is work that is laborious

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and is going to take text.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, if you happen to own let

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me look up the name here. Hey, if you bought

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a Walmart Ozark Trail Hiker backpack, you can expect a

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call from the FBI. That is, they know the name

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and the brand of the backpack that the bad guy

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on Nancy's porch was wearing. Again, it's a Walmart Walmart product,

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It's the Ozark Trail Hiker backpack, so they know that.

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Now they're going to go find out who bought that backpack,

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probably starting with the store in Tucson. Paul Morrow also

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with the latest of his comments.

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Speaker 8: No one thing about investigations. They have peaks and valleys,

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and right now I would characterize it despite the fact

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that we've had a couple of things that could be significant,

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I think we're in a little bit of a valley now.

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That doesn't mean that the case has gone cold or

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that no progress is being made. And just let me

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explain that.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the.

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Speaker 8: Past, people got very used to the idea the first

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forty eight we've all heard that, and that was because

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the forensics were very, very different. You were working with

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fingerprints and things that came back much more quickly. You

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the had a matcher you didn't, and you also did

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that off of interviews and things like that. These days,

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there is so much digital dust floating around out there

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that people leave never mind things like the fact that

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cars all have GPS's. These cars are rolling computers, they

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link to each other, they linked to on stars, things

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like that people have dash cams. The point is there's

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a lot of stuff that has to be true and

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you and I worked the coburger case together, and I

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remember being out there in Idaho when a lot of

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people saying the case was called and making this point.

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And then it was six weeks later. People forget it

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was six weeks before they button that case up. They

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did it in the way that I'm describing. So could

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we get a break any day?

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Speaker 3: Show? We could get it today?

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Speaker 8: And Kesh Pttel does say they're making progress and that

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they're looking at a few people, but I would just

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say at this point we may be into the analysis portion.

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What's upsetting about that is, of course Nancy is still

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out there.

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Speaker 1: Don Ratuna depends lawyer talking about some of the evidence

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that they're.

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Speaker 9: Testing, Basically that glove that they found yesterday. They're going

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to have to do a ton of testing on that

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glove to see if they can find anything that would

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link that glove to this situation. So they're going to

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be trying to find DNA on that glove. And you know,

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remember we saw images of the person outside of Nancy's

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house on that camera and he had these gloves on.

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Are they the same gloves?

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Speaker 3: Who knows? Could it be possibly?

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Speaker 9: And although it looked as if he was doing a

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lot of things to protect any type of DNA transfer.

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It looked like maybe he even had some type of

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latex or something on under the mask.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he had something under the gloves.

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Speaker 9: However, he'd have to have those gloves on and touch

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his steering wheel if he had a vehicle, touched the

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handles of the car Nancy exactly, And so those gloves

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should have potentially some type of DNA or some type

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of transfer on them that you could link. I don't

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know if they have it already, but they should have

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it pretty quickly. I mean, they will fast track this

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and they should get an answer pretty quickly. I think

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the FBI obviously has the means to do it faster

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than anyone else, and I'm sure that they will fast

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track it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the investigators are doing all kinds of things

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that we don't know about rather than visibly. They set

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up a tent on the front porch of Nancy's home today.

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What they were doing in that tent, who knows. That

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place has been trampled with all kinds of reporters and

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everybody else walking up a pizza guide delivering pizzas. So

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they did something at the front door and the porch

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and covered it up with a tent while they were

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doing some sort of investigative work for a couple of

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hours earlier. Today, a couple more of investigative types weighing

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in today, I thought I would share them with you.

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This is a private investigator by the name of Jay Arms.

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Speaker 10: A lot of times when a perpetrators fleeing the scene,

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they may be geared up and gloved up and masked

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up when they're at the location, but once they flee

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the location, they may start to discard things out the

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window of the vehicle, such as rubber gloves, and those

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are the kind of things that law enforcement is probably

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looking for are on the side of the road.

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Speaker 1: And finally, a former FBI guy, Jason Pack weighs in

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with his latest observations.

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Speaker 11: It's hard to say if it is significant. Then you

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saw the evidence response team from the Phoenix Division recover

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that yesterday. They've already sent out off their testing it.

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And what that will actually allow them to do is

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start a new canvas point. So now at that mile

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and a half away where these gloves were found, they're

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going to start a whole new investigation of digital canvas,

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video canvas they're going to go door to door and

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look and see if there are any other data points

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that they can discover to kind of help put some

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contacts with these gloves.

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Speaker 1: So if they found the name and brand of the backpack,

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can they find the name and brand of these gloves.

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Speaker 11: I think that's a little hard to do because they're

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so comming. These natural gloves are pretty common around there.

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There may be ways to do it. If they're able

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to do the forensic unit is able to zoom in

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and see if there are any exclusive marks or something

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like that that they could match those gloves. If it

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had a tear or some kind of puncture that we

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can't see, if they have better video than they've released,

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we just don't know. But it's possible, but it can

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be difficult in every investigation when you get either a

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tip or you get a return from the search warrant.

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This cast team the cellular analysis team that looks at

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the phone and digital data. There are micro dots that

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they can plot if any of any devices that have

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come through there. So that's probably why you also saw

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Allegiance out there at two am and three am. This

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is a twenty four to seven op so there may

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be pieces of digital data that's leading them to go

509
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look for these particular items. Maybe it's something they dropped,

510
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maybe it's something that peen, but there are using intelligence

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to drive their investigations on these things. Most of these

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cases are solved through that timeline. And when you put

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up a timeline, you're able to put a definite piece

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of information up and you go back and you against

515
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that timeline, you compare what people are telling you, you compare

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their alibis, you put the digital evidence, you put the

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forensic evidence on this timeline, and you're able to prove

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what people say. So you'll get a statement from someone

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that you interview saying yes I was here, No I

520
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was not here. Then you get their information from their device,

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you see if they were telling you the truth or not,

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and you plot that. So when you go back to

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the timeline we work on, the FBI works on one

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hundred percent. So when you go back to that timeline

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and you say, hey, the software detect a part on

526
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the camera at February first, how do you know that, Well,

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I have a piece of forensic evidence that proves that.

528
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So you're able to prove everything on that timeline. Another

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important point about this timeline. This is the public timeline

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that we know about. There's probably a more comprehensive timeline

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in the FBI's command post there at the Tucson Resident

532
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Agency that they have that we don't. So hopefully that's

533
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what we're seeing as a result of that investigative timeline

534
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that we don't know. That's why we're seeing this activity

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in the field today.

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Speaker 1: So the search for Nancy Guthrie and the search for

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the bad guy continue, and I'm sure you're doing what

538
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I'm doing. I keep thinking, well, she can't be alive now,

539
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but she could very easily be. We hope and pray

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she is. Meantime, on Wall Street today, the up and

541
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down is continuing today it was on the downside. And

542
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the thing is is the ups and the downs are

543
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getting bigger in their swings.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: The Dow down six hundreddrid sixty nine, the Dow back

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below fifty down to forty nine thousand and four to

547
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fifty one, SMP down one hundred eight, Nasdaq down four

548
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,319
hundred sixty nine. Gold it gave up one hundred and

549
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,640
fifty seven dollars down to forty nine forty one, and

550
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the price of oil also bouncing around lately, down almost

551
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two dollars today, just under sixty three dollars now for

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a barrel of oil. So that's it for today. Thank

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you for coming by. We will be here tomorrow. I

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hope to see you there

