Speaker 1: And Hi, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast
on this Thursday. Today is the twelfth day of February,
year of Our Lord twenty twenty six. My name is
Tom Sullivan. And well, we've got a variety of things
for you today. We have the Democrat Socialist Party is
growing leaps and bounds. A lot of people made a
big deal about the fact that the mayor of New
York City, Mom Donnie, came out and said I'm a
Democrat Socialist, and people thought, well, he can't win, and
he won. But before him is the old famous one is,
of course Bernie Sanders. Bernie has been proclaiming himself as
a Democrat Socialist for decades. He doesn't vary. He's still
I always I admire that about him is that he
is consistent. He says what he believes. You can believe
him or not, that's another whole story, but he's consistent.
So you've got Bernie Sanders and you've got now Mayor
Zoran Mamdani. And Tuesday they had a special election in
New Jersey to replace the new Governor of New Jersey,
mikey Ryl. She represented the eleventh district and so they
had to replace her because she's now the governor. And
they had well here's the part of best that a
lot of people aren't reporting. They had eleven people hitting
the primary for the Democrats and one of them won.
Her name is ann Alila Mahea and she won, but
she only got twenty nine percent of the vote. And
this seat now Congresswomen Elect Anna Alilia Mahea will be
in office until November, so she has to I know
she has to run again. And I don't know whether
they're going to have eleven people they're going to sign
up or not, but you can see what happens. It
was split a lot, and the same thing with ma'am
Donnie when he won, and it's not uncommon when you
have oh Okashi Cortez AOC. She was the same thing
they had. She won with I don't know of a
small percentage of the vote. But my point to you
is is that Democrats, socialists are starting to win. They
are starting to win, and I'll tell you what, it's
something that is growing. Harry Enton, the statistician over at
C and N, said, this is not an anomaly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's right, and I think the results from
that special election, that Democratic primary in the eleventh district
in New Jersey speak to a larger point within the
Democratic Party, and that is that the far left is
significantly more powerful than they once were. This sort of
gives the game away here Democrats who identify is very
liberal or conservative. You know, there used to be a
lot of conservative Democrats right back in nineteen ninety nine,
twenty six percent of Democrats self identified as conservative, just
five percent that they were very liberal.
Speaker 3: It was a smidge and a smidge.
Speaker 2: And this mentioned now that far left has gained considerably empowered.
Speaker 3: Look at this.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about a fifth of Democrats. Twenty one
percent say they're very liberal. That conservative part of the
Democratic Party Addio sim egos could buy just eight percent.
And when you combine the twenty one percent who are
very liberal with those who say that they're somewhat liberal,
we're talking about three and five Democrats who identify as
either somewhat liberal or very liberal. With the very liberals
a much larger portion of the party. The far left,
which used to just be a smidgeon within the Democratic Party,
has gained considerable power, as you saw on New Jerseys
eleventh disc Okay, so on a separate question, where you essentially,
CNN asked this last year, which was okay, democrats who
think on themselves as democratic socialists among all Democrats, including
those independents who lean towards the Democratic Party. Look at this,
we're talking about a third, a third of all Democrats
who identify as Democrats socialists. Bernie Sanders and Zoro Mondani
are not alone. They are a considerable part of the
Democratic base at this point.
Speaker 3: And more than that, if you look at Democrats under
the age of.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, they are nearly half, nearly half of the
Democratic Party. Look at this, forty two percent of Democrats
think of themselves as democratic socialists under the age of
thirty five.
Speaker 3: Just like Zora Mundani.
Speaker 2: That what happened in New York City is not some aberration, right,
it is not something that just happened in New York City.
Is something that we are seeing grow within the Democratic
Party at this particular point when we're talking about forty
two percent of Democrats under the age of thirty five
identifying as Democrats socialists.
Speaker 3: And a third of all Democrats, my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, is right. That is surprising. And the
younger you are, the more you are probably if you're
a Democrat, you're leaning toward being a Democrat socialist. So
stand by. This is not going to I thought it
would go away. I thought the squad was just the squad.
There were five ladies that are congress women that were
joined together on the far left. But it's much more
than that. Yeah, it's it is much more than that,
in the sense that up in Maine there is a
race for between two Democrats. Graham Plantner. He's an oyster
fisherman and he decided to get into politics, and he's
running to be a Congressman from Maine against a Governor Mills,
who has been the governor for two terms. Very popular governor,
big Democrat, and so she is a moderate. Graham Plantner
is a progressive. He has referred to himself as a communist.
He trashes white rural Americans as racist and stupid. He's white,
by the way. He downplanes concerns about sexual assault in
the military, and apparently he has a Nazi symbol tattooed
on his chest. So let me ask you who do
you think is ahead in the race in Maine, This
Graham Plantner or the moderate governor Mills. That's right, Graham
Plantner is way ahead in the polls. And then in
Los ange Angelas, a member of the city Council who
considers herself a Democrat socialist, she has thrown her hat
into the ring. She's running for the mayor of Los Angeles,
so we'll keep an eye on her as well. This
is Anna Lilia Mahea. At a rally.
Speaker 4: People will say that this district is not the kind
of district in which a progressive or a left he
could win. But it's not about left right, it's.
Speaker 3: About right and wrong.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, zip code doesn't protect us from rising violent authoritarianism.
Speaker 3: We must abolish ICE. We must turn off.
Speaker 4: This figot, we must stop the data collection, we must
stop the immunity, we must have accountability.
Speaker 1: So she wants the violence to stop, and she wants
a big government to stop, but she also wants to
get rid of defund ICE, and that's in the same
It can replace ICE with the fund police. They're a
police agency, they're a law enforcement agency. So Carl Rowe
was asked, well, Carl, is this really happening and if so,
what are the Republicans going to do about it? There? Yeah, Well, first,
these are two different questions, does it help the Democrats
politically to have left wingers like this win nominations, And
the answer is no. You know, outside of blue places,
the kind of things that you just heard from this
New Jersey candidate abolish ice. That's sort of like defund
the police. That didn't work out too well for the Democrats.
The Democrats should have the upper hand in a mid
term election when the White House is held by Republican
but they're going to diminish that impact in my opinion,
if they continue to nominate left wingers, because she may
be running in a district that can elect that kind
of a person. But those kind of comments are going
to raise questions for Democrats all across the country, just
like the efforts of Mayor Mom DAMMI are going to
be raised questions about, well, do you agree with the
mayor of New York who is a Democratic socialist doing
x so No, not helpful for the Democrats. I've seen
this drama before twenty ten. The Republicans had an excellent
chance to pick up the US Senate and pick up
Senate seats across the country. We nominated subpar candidates who
are too far to the right in places like Nevada
and Delaware and loss seats that we should have otherwise
picked up. Okay, so in some of these really blue,
blue blue districts, you can elect the person that's a
Democrat socialist and the people are fine with it. But again,
how much of this message is being spread across the
country and people in other districts good Democrats are going
to go I don't want socialists running our party. Yeah,
but you're right, it's going to work to their disadvantage.
I loved it that the Democratic National Chairman said we're
going to help her and we're going to have resources
and so forth. Democratic National Committee is in debt. It
has three million dollars more in bills that it owes
then it has money in the bank account. Think about that.
We're going into election year. The Republican National Committee has
ninety seven million dollars in the bank and no debt,
and the Democratic National Committee has has three million dollars
more in bills that it has to pay than it
has money in the bank to pay them. The Republican
National Committee, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the Congressional Campaign Committee,
and the two big super packs connected with the House
and Senate for the Republicans have a combined three hundred
and twenty million dollars cash on hand as it ended
the last reporting period. Their Democrat counterparts have a grand
total of one hundred and thirty seven million, So it's
approaching two and a half, nearly three to one. But
then you put into it Donald Trump has. President Trump
has the maga ink pack that has three hundred and
four million dollars in its account, and then several other
groups that have a total of seventy. So add the
three twenty plus the three zero four plus the three seventy,
and you got over six hundred million dollars to spend
on the campaign versus one hundred and thirty seven point
two for the Democrats. The question is is is there
anything the Democrats can do with their low dollar group,
their low dollar fundraising entity. It's called Act Blue, and
it has a demonstrated record going back to the mid
two thousands of generating small dollar gifts for Democratic congressional
and senatorial candidates. And the question is can it even
it up? And the answer probably is yes, But I
think it's too steep a hill to climb. If you
just take a quick look and Georgia. It's helped Asouf
then comment, senator raised sixty three point nine million dollars
his Republican opponents who are running in a primary twelve
and a half in North Carolina, Governor Cooper, the Democratic
likely nominee, nearly eighteen million, the Republican five point two.
In Ohio, again, the Democrat is ahead. But today this
giant block of money that the Republicans have, Democrats are
not going to be able to, in my opinion, raise
an equal amount.
Speaker 3: Carl.
Speaker 1: I like Carl, and he probably REOs his stuff backwards
and forward. But I have also seen where somebody raises
a lot of money, much more than their opponent, and
yet they still lose. Money doesn't always equal victory. So
the Democrats are way behind in the money count. But
that doesn't mean that there's a groundswell of people in
the Democrat Party. Young people. That's how Ma'm donnie got elected.
Young people and they came out and droves, and they
know there wasn't the money behind any of that. So
we'll see what happens. But at this point, to quote
Carl Rove, the Democrat Socialist Party is not an anomaly.
They're growing, So keep an eye on all of that meantime. Also,
this was from earlier today Katie Britt, the Republican senator.
She was asked about the Save Act, the Save Act,
this is the act that is wildly popular. Democrats, Republicans, Independents,
all by major majorities, all are in favor of the
Save Act. It's essentially people need to show photo ID
when they vote. Now, I thought about this and it's
better than not in my humble opinion. But fake ID
is not that hard. There's lots of ways to make
fake ID. Go online and get a driver's license with
your name or somebody else's name in your photo on
it from almost any state in the Union. But at
the same time, it passed the House and it's over
in the Senate today, And this is what Katie Britt
had to say about it.
Speaker 5: Look, what we need as Democrats to continue to have
dialogue and to operate in good faith. They wanted a
two week c R. We allowed them to have that
to have these conversations and negotiations, and Dana, it took
them a week to come up with that list that
you just put up on the screen. Then it took
them three more days to come up with legislative texts.
We responded with a list of our own, and then
came out with legislative text to them last night. I
think it's really important we continue this dialogue and also
realize what's at stake. A partial shutdown of homeland security
is an actual shutdown of all things that keep Americans
safe and our border and our country secure. So you're
shutting down FEMA, you're shutting down TSA, you're shutting down
the Coast Guard, you're shutting down Secret Service, amongst the
important work that Border patrol and ice do. And I
think it's really important that we stand shoulder to shoulder
with our law enforcement officers, that we stand for the law,
that we stand for enforcing it. We know the way
you do that matters, and we want to do that
the right way. The President is committed to that. I
think you've seen that from him. You saw him reach
out to the governor. You saw the President reach out
to the mayor. You saw Christy Nome say we're going
to send body cameras out throughout these agents that are
here in our interior. You've seen what Tom Holman's done today.
So for any Democrat to say we are doing anything
but operating good faith is absolutely false. And what this
means is by not allowing us to continue this conversation
by actually shutting down the department, they're playing politics. They're
not taking the wins. They're not helping us continue to
do better and be better. They want a political issue.
You just heard it from the candidate that was on
the screen right before me where she said she wanted
to abolish ICE and look, Republicans aren't going to let
that happen.
Speaker 1: Well, bottom line, the vote did well. The Senate went home. Yeah,
the Senate left, so the vote is not going to happen.
The deadline for the continuing Resolution for DHS is those
runs out tomorrow night at midnight, So DHS will shut
down tomorrow night at midnight. ICE. No, they're going to
stay in business. They have funding through twenty twenty nine.
But you heard what she said, but Coastguard TSA, FEMA
a handful. But DHS is going to be unfunded as
of tomorrow night at midnight, and the Senate has gone
for the long weekend. You've got President's Day on Monday,
so they're out of town. I know it's Thursday, but
they laughed. So save Act is basically dead. Now. She
mentioned Tom Holman. He had a news conference early this
morning in Minneapolis, and it was I don't know, about
fifteen minutes or so. It wasn't long, but he came
out and made a couple of announcements. One of them
was that, well, listen to what Tom Holman said about
the fact that they found a huge number of unaccompanied minors,
illegals that are by them little kids that are by
themselves in Minneapolis, unaccompanied miners. This is what he said.
Speaker 6: In addition to taking public safety threats off the street,
ice here in this state, have located three thousand, three
hundred and sixty four missing unaccompanied alien children, children that
the last administration lost and weren't even looking for.
Speaker 1: I know they're villified, but to find three three hundred
and sixty four unaccompanied minors not They may be seventeen
year olds or they could be seven year olds. I
don't know, but that's the result so far. And then
he went on to basically make the big part of
the announcement, here's Tom Holman with.
Speaker 6: That and success that has been made to rest in
public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began.
As well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have
obtained from state officials and local law enforcement. I have
proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude.
A significant drawdown has already been underway this week and
we'll continue to the next week. We have a lot
of work to do across this country to remove public
safety risk who shouldn't even be in this country, and
to deliver on President Trunk's primis for strong border security,
mass deportation. Law enforcement officers drawn down from this surge
operation will either return to the duty station or be
signed elsewhere to achieve just that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he mentioned in his news conference, he talked
about the surge you heard him has concluded and a
significant drawdown of their agents. In fact, he said essentially
that they had two thousand agents there. They're going to
bring it back to just the field office, which is
one hundred and fifty, So all but one hundred and
fifty are leaving small footprint at the field office in
Saint Paul. He says he'll remain in Minneapolis for a
few more days for a little while to oversee the transition.
I mean, it's he basically reflects smart law enforcement leadership
that was missing. It just wasn't set upright, It wasn't managed.
There were more than one lines of communication. Tom Homan
went in. It did not take him long. He also
complimented the mayor and the governor and the sheriffs and
everybody else because now ICE can do exactly what they
were asking to do, is they can go into jails
and take custody of illegals that have been arrested for
a crime and take them and deport them. So it's
pretty amazing to see Homan walk in and all of
a sudden get all the things that the previous management.
I was going to say leaders, but they weren't leaders.
Previous management was unable to do. By the way, I
saw an interview the other day, I wasn't interviewed ahead
of the Customs and Border Protection. They were all testifying
before a House committee, and one of the members of
the committee asked the head of CPB about how long
is your training and he literally said twenty seven days.
That's it, twenty seven days. There isn't a law enforcement
officer out there that has such little training. So no
wonder what happened in Minneapolis was an absolute mess. So
Tom Holman knows what he's doing. He's smart. He put
law enforcement smart law enforcement management in the place. And
the funding battle in Congress doesn't affect ICE, but it
will affect the other parts of DHS. And they're going
after Christy Nome and I get that. I see what
they're doing. But if you're looking for Coastguard, THEMA or well,
I don't know what's going to TSA. I feel bad
for the Blue Shirts. What did they do wrong? Nothing,
but they're going to have to show up for work
Saturday without a paycheck. Okay, let's get to the latest
on what's going on with Savannah Guthrie's mother. This is
day twelve that Nancy Guthrie has been missing. Today there
was another note that was sent to TMC was It
arrived about eleven o'clock Eastern time this morning, and it
was sent by the same person who sent another letter
Wednesday demanding one bitcoin in return for whoever wrote the
note said that they know the name of the person
who abducted Nancy Guthrie and so we don't know who
this is. So they again today sent another note demanding
one bitcoin, which is about sixty five thousand dollars. The
author expressed fears that he might be incriminated like that
Carlos guy. That's the guy that was picked up the
other night, the FedEx delivery driver down in Rio Rico,
and they interviewed him, quizzed him for about three hours
they did, and they released him. So that is that
was in the note today. In addition to that, the
FBI is asking everybody in that area to go back.
They started off by saying, we want you to go
back and show us check your check your videos on
your doorbells on January eleventh and January thirty first. Eleventh
was a Sunday, and they are looking at the eleventh
for some reason. And then later or they said, okay,
everybody in the neighborhood, we want you to go back
and check all of your home videos from January first
to January thirty first. So that was sent to everybody
on a neighborhood app that covers an area of about
two mile radius around Nancy's home in Tucson. So the
FBI also confirmed that they have received several potentially key
pieces of evidence. They yesterday said they had they found
a glove. Now they're saying plural. They found a pair
of gloves, and they have other potentially significant pieces of
evidence as well. Here's a little bit from James Gagliano,
who has been one of the authorities that has been
talking to the media.
Speaker 7: You not only have to do the flat foot work.
You don't not only have to go out to local
five and dime show, to sporting goods stores, to canvas,
the Walmarts and the home depots in places like that.
You also have to look at online purchases, and that
expands the aperture exponentially. You can still do that even
if you pay cash and you went to Walmart and
you happen to purchase this, you can still track that.
This is time consuming. This is work that is laborious
and is going to take text.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, if you happen to own let
me look up the name here. Hey, if you bought
a Walmart Ozark Trail Hiker backpack, you can expect a
call from the FBI. That is, they know the name
and the brand of the backpack that the bad guy
on Nancy's porch was wearing. Again, it's a Walmart Walmart product,
It's the Ozark Trail Hiker backpack, so they know that.
Now they're going to go find out who bought that backpack,
probably starting with the store in Tucson. Paul Morrow also
with the latest of his comments.
Speaker 8: No one thing about investigations. They have peaks and valleys,
and right now I would characterize it despite the fact
that we've had a couple of things that could be significant,
I think we're in a little bit of a valley now.
That doesn't mean that the case has gone cold or
that no progress is being made. And just let me
explain that.
Speaker 3: You know, in the.
Speaker 8: Past, people got very used to the idea the first
forty eight we've all heard that, and that was because
the forensics were very, very different. You were working with
fingerprints and things that came back much more quickly. You
the had a matcher you didn't, and you also did
that off of interviews and things like that. These days,
there is so much digital dust floating around out there
that people leave never mind things like the fact that
cars all have GPS's. These cars are rolling computers, they
link to each other, they linked to on stars, things
like that people have dash cams. The point is there's
a lot of stuff that has to be true and
you and I worked the coburger case together, and I
remember being out there in Idaho when a lot of
people saying the case was called and making this point.
And then it was six weeks later. People forget it
was six weeks before they button that case up. They
did it in the way that I'm describing. So could
we get a break any day?
Speaker 3: Show? We could get it today?
Speaker 8: And Kesh Pttel does say they're making progress and that
they're looking at a few people, but I would just
say at this point we may be into the analysis portion.
What's upsetting about that is, of course Nancy is still
out there.
Speaker 1: Don Ratuna depends lawyer talking about some of the evidence
that they're.
Speaker 9: Testing, Basically that glove that they found yesterday. They're going
to have to do a ton of testing on that
glove to see if they can find anything that would
link that glove to this situation. So they're going to
be trying to find DNA on that glove. And you know,
remember we saw images of the person outside of Nancy's
house on that camera and he had these gloves on.
Are they the same gloves?
Speaker 3: Who knows? Could it be possibly?
Speaker 9: And although it looked as if he was doing a
lot of things to protect any type of DNA transfer.
It looked like maybe he even had some type of
latex or something on under the mask.
Speaker 3: Maybe he had something under the gloves.
Speaker 9: However, he'd have to have those gloves on and touch
his steering wheel if he had a vehicle, touched the
handles of the car Nancy exactly, And so those gloves
should have potentially some type of DNA or some type
of transfer on them that you could link. I don't
know if they have it already, but they should have
it pretty quickly. I mean, they will fast track this
and they should get an answer pretty quickly. I think
the FBI obviously has the means to do it faster
than anyone else, and I'm sure that they will fast
track it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the investigators are doing all kinds of things
that we don't know about rather than visibly. They set
up a tent on the front porch of Nancy's home today.
What they were doing in that tent, who knows. That
place has been trampled with all kinds of reporters and
everybody else walking up a pizza guide delivering pizzas. So
they did something at the front door and the porch
and covered it up with a tent while they were
doing some sort of investigative work for a couple of
hours earlier. Today, a couple more of investigative types weighing
in today, I thought I would share them with you.
This is a private investigator by the name of Jay Arms.
Speaker 10: A lot of times when a perpetrators fleeing the scene,
they may be geared up and gloved up and masked
up when they're at the location, but once they flee
the location, they may start to discard things out the
window of the vehicle, such as rubber gloves, and those
are the kind of things that law enforcement is probably
looking for are on the side of the road.
Speaker 1: And finally, a former FBI guy, Jason Pack weighs in
with his latest observations.
Speaker 11: It's hard to say if it is significant. Then you
saw the evidence response team from the Phoenix Division recover
that yesterday. They've already sent out off their testing it.
And what that will actually allow them to do is
start a new canvas point. So now at that mile
and a half away where these gloves were found, they're
going to start a whole new investigation of digital canvas,
video canvas they're going to go door to door and
look and see if there are any other data points
that they can discover to kind of help put some
contacts with these gloves.
Speaker 1: So if they found the name and brand of the backpack,
can they find the name and brand of these gloves.
Speaker 11: I think that's a little hard to do because they're
so comming. These natural gloves are pretty common around there.
There may be ways to do it. If they're able
to do the forensic unit is able to zoom in
and see if there are any exclusive marks or something
like that that they could match those gloves. If it
had a tear or some kind of puncture that we
can't see, if they have better video than they've released,
we just don't know. But it's possible, but it can
be difficult in every investigation when you get either a
tip or you get a return from the search warrant.
This cast team the cellular analysis team that looks at
the phone and digital data. There are micro dots that
they can plot if any of any devices that have
come through there. So that's probably why you also saw
Allegiance out there at two am and three am. This
is a twenty four to seven op so there may
be pieces of digital data that's leading them to go
look for these particular items. Maybe it's something they dropped,
maybe it's something that peen, but there are using intelligence
to drive their investigations on these things. Most of these
cases are solved through that timeline. And when you put
up a timeline, you're able to put a definite piece
of information up and you go back and you against
that timeline, you compare what people are telling you, you compare
their alibis, you put the digital evidence, you put the
forensic evidence on this timeline, and you're able to prove
what people say. So you'll get a statement from someone
that you interview saying yes I was here, No I
was not here. Then you get their information from their device,
you see if they were telling you the truth or not,
and you plot that. So when you go back to
the timeline we work on, the FBI works on one
hundred percent. So when you go back to that timeline
and you say, hey, the software detect a part on
the camera at February first, how do you know that, Well,
I have a piece of forensic evidence that proves that.
So you're able to prove everything on that timeline. Another
important point about this timeline. This is the public timeline
that we know about. There's probably a more comprehensive timeline
in the FBI's command post there at the Tucson Resident
Agency that they have that we don't. So hopefully that's
what we're seeing as a result of that investigative timeline
that we don't know. That's why we're seeing this activity
in the field today.
Speaker 1: So the search for Nancy Guthrie and the search for
the bad guy continue, and I'm sure you're doing what
I'm doing. I keep thinking, well, she can't be alive now,
but she could very easily be. We hope and pray
she is. Meantime, on Wall Street today, the up and
down is continuing today it was on the downside. And
the thing is is the ups and the downs are
getting bigger in their swings.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 1: The Dow down six hundreddrid sixty nine, the Dow back
below fifty down to forty nine thousand and four to
fifty one, SMP down one hundred eight, Nasdaq down four
hundred sixty nine. Gold it gave up one hundred and
fifty seven dollars down to forty nine forty one, and
the price of oil also bouncing around lately, down almost
two dollars today, just under sixty three dollars now for
a barrel of oil. So that's it for today. Thank
you for coming by. We will be here tomorrow. I
hope to see you there