Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of January thirteenth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Loss to season two, episode four.
Speaker 1: Everybody hates Hugo And if you hear any talking in
Speaker 1: the background here or any weird noises, it's not the others.
Speaker 1: Some company in my house and some very strong wind outside,
Speaker 1: so it's all okay.
Speaker 3: It's not so the others.
Speaker 1: So poor Hurley. This was a rough episode on Hurley.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know when.
Speaker 2: I saw the title Everybody Hates Hugo. I thought, no,
Speaker 2: I don't hate Hugo. I don't want people to hate Hugo.
Speaker 1: But if he was rationing the potato chips, would you
Speaker 1: hate him a little night? If he said no candy
Speaker 1: bar for you and no shampoo even though you haven't
Speaker 1: had a shower in months, would not feel fondly towards him?
Speaker 1: Nor if he was your best friend and you quit
Speaker 1: your job because he quit his job and y'all had
Speaker 1: a great day, and then you found out that he
Speaker 1: quit his job because he is a millionaire, you might
Speaker 1: not feel.
Speaker 2: So multime multime millionaire.
Speaker 1: Yes, And he just failed to mention that. Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2: Although the reveal of that, you know where they show
Speaker 2: up to the convenience store and the owners being interviewed
Speaker 2: and and then the owner spies Hurley in this junkie
Speaker 2: van and says, that's him, Like he didn't he didn't
Speaker 2: actually cash.
Speaker 3: It in yet, Like how did he? How did that
Speaker 3: guy know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very we needed to happen this way
Speaker 1: from whats so okay?
Speaker 2: But so that that was a quibble that I had,
Speaker 2: But you know, we all we all know that otherwise
Speaker 2: everything makes sense and it's perfectly clear.
Speaker 3: On this shore.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed how after quite some time, Hey, it's Rose
Speaker 1: Roses back Rose could be what was your husband's name.
Speaker 2: Again us, please remind us what his name was, because
Speaker 2: we might need to know later.
Speaker 1: And sure enough, there at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: when they're in the very scary looking place where the
Speaker 1: Tale people have been subsisting, sure enough there's a dude
Speaker 1: named Bernard asking about Rose. So she was so sweet,
Speaker 1: as she said, just in this very episode, I know
Speaker 1: he's still alive. Just as that's their own little way
Speaker 1: of doing a flashback.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 1: You got your big flashbacks and you have your little
Speaker 1: little previous luve lost just sort of naturally worked into
Speaker 1: the script.
Speaker 2: So yeah, as much as I enjoy, you know, a
Speaker 2: early centered episode, it's it's sad when when bad things
Speaker 2: happen through yes, yeah, and like why did Jack put
Speaker 2: him in charge of the pantry and seems so unfair
Speaker 2: And I mean, I guess no matter who it was,
Speaker 2: curly correctly diagnosed that no matter who it was, was
Speaker 2: going to have this problem.
Speaker 1: The sawyer they should be because everybody hates him already,
Speaker 1: except he's not around here. No, No, they're missing him now,
Speaker 1: aren't they? Right? Shannon? You know what, Shannon would be good.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't give a moment's attention to anyone who had
Speaker 2: been things to say to her.
Speaker 3: She'd be like, yeah, even less for you than.
Speaker 1: She would not care put said in charge of it.
Speaker 1: People would be too afraid to hate him. What you
Speaker 1: don't like that? I am saying, No, I didn't quite
Speaker 1: understand what it was they were looking for him, say either.
Speaker 1: I did not either, nor did my when they're like
Speaker 1: crawling around, yes, underground, even more underground than the hatch already,
Speaker 1: I don't know what well.
Speaker 3: I did not understand what was going on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get that.
Speaker 2: All we knew was there was concrete and the magnet
Speaker 2: was somehow involved because.
Speaker 1: The key And did you notice that the magnet makes
Speaker 1: Jack's key around his neck? Did you notice? Did you notice?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: We thought you might have missed it the first time.
Speaker 2: Call attention to that, and they got to make a
Speaker 2: reference to Chernobyl.
Speaker 3: So that puts that little thought in my brain.
Speaker 1: Great, that was just a little of letting everybody know
Speaker 1: what's going on eventually, and just to charting the perimeters
Speaker 1: of the uh of the hatch. And but by the way,
Speaker 1: how much time did Locke and Boone spend messing around
Speaker 1: with that hatch? They didn't notice there was like a
Speaker 1: door near my mind my husband said, oh, the door
Speaker 1: is probably nowhere near the hatch. But even so, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that disguised. It kind of looked like a door. Yes,
Speaker 1: bad reconnaissance, you guys. No, we need to take unstable
Speaker 1: dynamite and blow this thing up. It's the only possible.
Speaker 3: In no other way anywhere.
Speaker 1: We passed a door in the jungle, but I'm sure sure.
Speaker 3: That's totally something else that we don't.
Speaker 2: Need to.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay for the stunt men to
Speaker 1: have people supposedly rappling in and out of that place,
Speaker 1: so they just like ask questions. It's fine, the hatch
Speaker 1: is like how far down into the ground, but there's
Speaker 1: a door. There's a door at ground level it's a cliff.
Speaker 2: And also there's where is the shower because somehow they
Speaker 2: got to it by crawling around underground, But Kate didn't
Speaker 2: get to the shower by crawling around underground.
Speaker 1: So so you we're asking, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, there are no answers to these questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they're keeping it all a big secret,
Speaker 1: and then Lock just tells starts telling people, right Locke
Speaker 1: trying to explain this whole crazy thing to Charlie is
Speaker 1: their little hardy horror sarcastic. Look at how crazy this
Speaker 1: shit is. It sounds a bit nutty.
Speaker 3: Doesn't And there's this button and oh there's a record
Speaker 3: player also. He brought that up. He knew Charlie would
Speaker 3: be interested. Seriously really, but by the end, everyone did
Speaker 3: not hate Hugo because.
Speaker 1: No, because he decided to give away all their was like,
Speaker 1: forget it. Where they're gonna hate him when they find
Speaker 1: out that probably they should have rationed it. What you mean?
Speaker 1: This is it? This is everything we have no more?
Speaker 1: Why did you let it? Beat it all?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Waity, you know, enjoy these these ten to fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: when everyone likes me.
Speaker 1: And what are the odds that there would be peanut
Speaker 1: butter there for Charlie to give to Claire? Of course?
Speaker 1: How long? What is the shelf life of that stuff?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I mean, if it hasn't.
Speaker 1: Been opened, is it just okay forever?
Speaker 3: It's probably okay for a pretty long time.
Speaker 1: They like stock that place in the sixties.
Speaker 2: I don't know, the candy bars all look pretty new.
Speaker 1: They did, so I guess if you're on an island
Speaker 1: and you've not had regular food for a long time,
Speaker 1: even the stalest candy bar and potato chips taste.
Speaker 3: Pretty probably tastes amazing.
Speaker 1: Yes, And they find the bottle washed up that went
Speaker 1: out on.
Speaker 2: The road, which again could mean nothing. That's right, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it fell over. You know, they had a little bit
Speaker 2: of rough water. You know, there's lots of explanations for
Speaker 2: it that aren't they're all dead, which is clearly what
Speaker 2: they think.
Speaker 1: So son, you got to go talk to Rose. It'll happen.
Speaker 1: But you knew that the bottle was going to wash
Speaker 1: up because the bottle was on the previous lease, right
Speaker 1: right that then like like revealing your plot there, Okay,
Speaker 1: well this is going to be a.
Speaker 3: Thing, then, I guess yep, for sure.
Speaker 1: And uh getting getting some really uh really vicious uh
Speaker 1: tension going there between Anta Lucia and they're just you know,
Speaker 1: moldery made for each other.
Speaker 2: Yes, but Terry, we already have a love triangle. We
Speaker 2: can't introduce another.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a love square. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: she did meet Jack first, he did, and she's we
Speaker 1: could just have two tries.
Speaker 2: She was certainly flirting with Jack on her first encounter.
Speaker 1: She was she finds out he's a possibility. Ye poor,
Speaker 1: so I squeeze both of those. Yeah, but uh so
Speaker 1: they pull them out of the pit. They came out
Speaker 1: of the pit and uh marched off to what exactly
Speaker 1: was that where they all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like sort of a scary bumper a bunker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: much like that, but but less provisions and light and
Speaker 2: everything else.
Speaker 1: And also she said they said that there were twenty
Speaker 1: three of them and he's like, well where are they?
Speaker 1: And there were twenty three rice, So sounds like they
Speaker 1: haven't been having as good as night. Parenting wise, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed Hurley's mom lecturing him change your life. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: really a mixture of needling and sarcasm. That just made
Speaker 1: me want to give her a hug. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for Hurley, but still that was some prime
Speaker 1: adult mothering going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of there was like she'd
Speaker 3: been saving that up for a while.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, so and then finally she says it every.
Speaker 2: Day right, Yeah, answering the phone. Oh it is Jesus,
Speaker 2: she's calling you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she could. She could be a guest on
Speaker 1: our podcast time.
Speaker 3: She has our our general brand of aggravation.
Speaker 1: Certainly sympathized too with having an adult, adult child at
Speaker 1: home who just doesn't seem to be having any ambitions
Speaker 1: whatsoever to do anything other than sit and watch TV.
Speaker 2: And right, there's a there's a la.
Speaker 1: A lack of urgency. Yes, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: that going around. But oh sweetie, you're the You're going
Speaker 1: to be our lost patron saint here. And also we
Speaker 1: must admit, uh, from a parenting point of view, it
Speaker 1: being the one in charge of the snacks is indeed
Speaker 1: a think it is.
Speaker 2: It's been there, as you know, not just for my cookies,
Speaker 2: for not just for my own family, but for entire
Speaker 2: teams teens, right, children and their parents who can be
Speaker 2: more annoying than their children.
Speaker 1: Did everybody hate Catherine, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They were.
Speaker 2: Many people were very kind and very appreciative, and many
Speaker 2: people were like, well, my kid doesn't eat that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, well, oh, then you will have to
Speaker 2: supply what your kid does eat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I will not be doing that.
Speaker 3: That was impact in the bunker.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you know, there's only so many many things
Speaker 1: from the Dharma pantree, and that's not one of them exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh well, my word.
Speaker 1: Also, I could relate to the when Sawyer is down
Speaker 1: in the pit and he's refusing to come out, and
Speaker 1: you know, they just leave him there. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they come back again and say, you know, if you
Speaker 1: push it too hard and you lose your opportunity. Yes,
Speaker 1: you think they're going to keep talking to you and
Speaker 1: poop nor still little bit?
Speaker 3: Oh dear.
Speaker 1: Yes, he was in time out.
Speaker 2: He really was in time out, and he was he
Speaker 2: was trying to he was doing everything he could to.
Speaker 2: You know, fine, I want to be down here, you know,
Speaker 2: like I want to go to my room for the
Speaker 2: next hour and a half.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a punishment. I like it here.
Speaker 1: Gee where we heard those things before?
Speaker 3: Nice try, Nice Try.
Speaker 1: Is in so many ways basically a child. But and
Speaker 1: and and Lucia is the mom who has had trusting. Fine,
Speaker 1: you like it so much there, you can stay there.
Speaker 3: It's for you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going around and around with you.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that the tail people have a surgeon,
Speaker 2: because I think and some antibiotics because feels like Sawyer
Speaker 2: needs those as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, who would have thought that that digging a
Speaker 1: bullet out of your shoulder while you were on a
Speaker 1: raft in the ocean might cause, i don't.
Speaker 3: Know, some problems down the road.
Speaker 1: And then getting thrown into a dirty pit immediately.
Speaker 2: After, Yeah, yeah, especially I mean you seawater like that's
Speaker 2: just salt water like, yeah, they use that in medical settings, right, Well,
Speaker 2: that's true. He needed to drinks sit out a little more.
Speaker 1: It must have been the getting hit on the head
Speaker 1: on the beach and ryot like into a hole in
Speaker 1: the ground. Maybe that might have a certain amount of contamination,
Speaker 1: Oh dear, sooner or later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, now they know about each other.
Speaker 1: All these crazy kids together, and.
Speaker 2: Boy, those those tale people are gonna be mad when
Speaker 2: they find out all the snacks are going.
Speaker 3: What do you mean there was a whole pantry and
Speaker 3: now there's not.
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, they're gonna be there's gonna be some tension,
Speaker 1: I think, plus which you know, I have to believe
Speaker 1: that Analysia is going to charge uh is going to
Speaker 1: challenge Jack for the leader position. I don't think she's
Speaker 1: gonna go in charge, just like find yourself a little
Speaker 1: fire on the beach and roast some marshmallows. So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some tense times ahead, definitely. And also we
Speaker 1: have to shout out Curly and his friend listening to
Speaker 1: drive Shaft at the record store.
Speaker 2: His friend and have very good things to say a show.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Purley said, Hey, I just listened to you.
Speaker 1: But uh anyway, next Tuesday, we will continue with season two,
Speaker 1: episode five of lost Dot dot Dot and Found.
Speaker 2: We didn't like it when it was dot dot dot
Speaker 2: in translation, and we do not like dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: And but it is a Gin and Sun flashback episode,
Speaker 1: so I think we can make some uh some conclusions
Speaker 1: about how long they're going to draw out this. Bringing
Speaker 1: the Tailies and the uh our existing castways together sounds like.
Speaker 3: Not that long.
Speaker 1: Mayby sooner. Okay, before we forget about Rosen, they got together.
Speaker 1: We just hax position today. We got a We don't
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