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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of January thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Loss to season two, episode four.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody hates Hugo And if you hear any talking in

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<v Speaker 1>the background here or any weird noises, it's not the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Some company in my house and some very strong wind outside,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's all okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not so the others.

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<v Speaker 1>So poor Hurley. This was a rough episode on Hurley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know when.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the title Everybody Hates Hugo. I thought, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hate Hugo. I don't want people to hate Hugo.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he was rationing the potato chips, would you

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<v Speaker 1>hate him a little night? If he said no candy

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<v Speaker 1>bar for you and no shampoo even though you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a shower in months, would not feel fondly towards him?

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<v Speaker 1>Nor if he was your best friend and you quit

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<v Speaker 1>your job because he quit his job and y'all had

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<v Speaker 1>a great day, and then you found out that he

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<v Speaker 1>quit his job because he is a millionaire, you might

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<v Speaker 1>not feel.

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<v Speaker 2>So multime multime millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And he just failed to mention that. Yeah, oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the reveal of that, you know where they show

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<v Speaker 2>up to the convenience store and the owners being interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>and and then the owner spies Hurley in this junkie

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<v Speaker 2>van and says, that's him, Like he didn't he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually cash.

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<v Speaker 3>It in yet, Like how did he? How did that

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<v Speaker 3>guy know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was very we needed to happen this way

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<v Speaker 1>from whats so okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But so that that was a quibble that I had,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we all we all know that otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>everything makes sense and it's perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 3>On this shore.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed how after quite some time, Hey, it's Rose

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<v Speaker 1>Roses back Rose could be what was your husband's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Again us, please remind us what his name was, because

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<v Speaker 2>we might need to know later.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, there at the end of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in the very scary looking place where the

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<v Speaker 1>Tale people have been subsisting, sure enough there's a dude

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<v Speaker 1>named Bernard asking about Rose. So she was so sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>as she said, just in this very episode, I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's still alive. Just as that's their own little way

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<v Speaker 1>of doing a flashback.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your big flashbacks and you have your little

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<v Speaker 1>little previous luve lost just sort of naturally worked into

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, as much as I enjoy, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>early centered episode, it's it's sad when when bad things

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<v Speaker 2>happen through yes, yeah, and like why did Jack put

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<v Speaker 2>him in charge of the pantry and seems so unfair

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I guess no matter who it was,

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<v Speaker 2>curly correctly diagnosed that no matter who it was, was

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<v Speaker 2>going to have this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The sawyer they should be because everybody hates him already,

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<v Speaker 1>except he's not around here. No, No, they're missing him now,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they? Right? Shannon? You know what, Shannon would be good.

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<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't give a moment's attention to anyone who had

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<v Speaker 2>been things to say to her.

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<v Speaker 3>She'd be like, yeah, even less for you than.

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<v Speaker 1>She would not care put said in charge of it.

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<v Speaker 1>People would be too afraid to hate him. What you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that? I am saying, No, I didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>understand what it was they were looking for him, say either.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not either, nor did my when they're like

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<v Speaker 1>crawling around, yes, underground, even more underground than the hatch already,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what well.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not understand what was going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>All we knew was there was concrete and the magnet

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<v Speaker 1>The key And did you notice that the magnet makes

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's key around his neck? Did you notice? Did you notice?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>We thought you might have missed it the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Call attention to that, and they got to make a

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<v Speaker 2>reference to Chernobyl.

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<v Speaker 3>So that puts that little thought in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, that was just a little of letting everybody know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on eventually, and just to charting the perimeters

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<v Speaker 1>of the uh of the hatch. And but by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>how much time did Locke and Boone spend messing around

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<v Speaker 1>with that hatch? They didn't notice there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>door near my mind my husband said, oh, the door

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<v Speaker 1>is probably nowhere near the hatch. But even so, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that disguised. It kind of looked like a door. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>bad reconnaissance, you guys. No, we need to take unstable

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<v Speaker 1>dynamite and blow this thing up. It's the only possible.

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<v Speaker 3>In no other way anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We passed a door in the jungle, but I'm sure sure.

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<v Speaker 3>That's totally something else that we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to pay for the stunt men to

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<v Speaker 1>have people supposedly rappling in and out of that place,

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<v Speaker 1>so they just like ask questions. It's fine, the hatch

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<v Speaker 1>is like how far down into the ground, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a door. There's a door at ground level it's a cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>And also there's where is the shower because somehow they

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<v Speaker 2>got to it by crawling around underground, But Kate didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to the shower by crawling around underground.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you we're asking, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there are no answers to these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they're keeping it all a big secret,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Lock just tells starts telling people, right Locke

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<v Speaker 1>trying to explain this whole crazy thing to Charlie is

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<v Speaker 1>their little hardy horror sarcastic. Look at how crazy this

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<v Speaker 1>shit is. It sounds a bit nutty.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't And there's this button and oh there's a record

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<v Speaker 3>player also. He brought that up. He knew Charlie would

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<v Speaker 3>be interested. Seriously really, but by the end, everyone did

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<v Speaker 3>not hate Hugo because.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because he decided to give away all their was like,

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<v Speaker 1>forget it. Where they're gonna hate him when they find

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<v Speaker 1>out that probably they should have rationed it. What you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>This is it? This is everything we have no more?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you let it? Beat it all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Waity, you know, enjoy these these ten to fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>when everyone likes me.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are the odds that there would be peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter there for Charlie to give to Claire? Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>How long? What is the shelf life of that stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I mean, if it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Been opened, is it just okay forever?

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably okay for a pretty long time.

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<v Speaker 1>They like stock that place in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the candy bars all look pretty new.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, so I guess if you're on an island

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<v Speaker 1>and you've not had regular food for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>even the stalest candy bar and potato chips taste.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty probably tastes amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And they find the bottle washed up that went

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<v Speaker 2>The road, which again could mean nothing. That's right, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it fell over. You know, they had a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of rough water. You know, there's lots of explanations for

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<v Speaker 2>it that aren't they're all dead, which is clearly what

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<v Speaker 2>they think.

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<v Speaker 1>So son, you got to go talk to Rose. It'll happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But you knew that the bottle was going to wash

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<v Speaker 1>up because the bottle was on the previous lease, right

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<v Speaker 1>right that then like like revealing your plot there, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is going to be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing, then, I guess yep, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh getting getting some really uh really vicious uh

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<v Speaker 1>tension going there between Anta Lucia and they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>moldery made for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but Terry, we already have a love triangle. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't introduce another.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be a love square. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she did meet Jack first, he did, and she's we

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<v Speaker 1>could just have two tries.

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<v Speaker 2>She was certainly flirting with Jack on her first encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she finds out he's a possibility. Ye poor,

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<v Speaker 1>so I squeeze both of those. Yeah, but uh so

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<v Speaker 1>they pull them out of the pit. They came out

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<v Speaker 1>of the pit and uh marched off to what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>was that where they all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like sort of a scary bumper a bunker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>much like that, but but less provisions and light and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And also she said they said that there were twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three of them and he's like, well where are they?

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<v Speaker 1>And there were twenty three rice, So sounds like they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been having as good as night. Parenting wise, I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed Hurley's mom lecturing him change your life. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>really a mixture of needling and sarcasm. That just made

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<v Speaker 1>me want to give her a hug. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad for Hurley, but still that was some prime

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<v Speaker 1>adult mothering going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a lot of there was like she'd

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<v Speaker 3>been saving that up for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh yes, so and then finally she says it every.

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<v Speaker 2>Day right, Yeah, answering the phone. Oh it is Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>she's calling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she could. She could be a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast time.

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<v Speaker 3>She has our our general brand of aggravation.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly sympathized too with having an adult, adult child at

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<v Speaker 1>home who just doesn't seem to be having any ambitions

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever to do anything other than sit and watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And right, there's a there's a la.

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<v Speaker 1>A lack of urgency. Yes, I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that going around. But oh sweetie, you're the You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be our lost patron saint here. And also we

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<v Speaker 1>must admit, uh, from a parenting point of view, it

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<v Speaker 1>being the one in charge of the snacks is indeed

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<v Speaker 1>a think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been there, as you know, not just for my cookies,

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<v Speaker 2>for not just for my own family, but for entire

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<v Speaker 2>teams teens, right, children and their parents who can be

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<v Speaker 2>more annoying than their children.

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<v Speaker 1>Did everybody hate Catherine, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They were.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people were very kind and very appreciative, and many

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<v Speaker 2>people were like, well, my kid doesn't eat that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, oh, then you will have to

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<v Speaker 2>supply what your kid does eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I will not be doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>That was impact in the bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, you know, there's only so many many things

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, my word.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I could relate to the when Sawyer is down

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<v Speaker 1>they come back again and say, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're going to keep talking to you and

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<v Speaker 1>poop nor still little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he was in time out.

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<v Speaker 2>He really was in time out, and he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to he was doing everything he could to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, fine, I want to be down here, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's not a punishment. I like it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Gee where we heard those things before?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice try, Nice Try.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in so many ways basically a child. But and

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<v Speaker 1>and and Lucia is the mom who has had trusting. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you like it so much there, you can stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going around and around with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that the tail people have a surgeon,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think and some antibiotics because feels like Sawyer

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, who would have thought that that digging a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet out of your shoulder while you were on a

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<v Speaker 1>raft in the ocean might cause, i don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, some problems down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>And then getting thrown into a dirty pit immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>just salt water like, yeah, they use that in medical settings, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true. He needed to drinks sit out a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been the getting hit on the head

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Maybe that might have a certain amount of contamination,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, now they know about each other.

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<v Speaker 1>All these crazy kids together, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, those those tale people are gonna be mad when

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<v Speaker 2>they find out all the snacks are going.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean there was a whole pantry and

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<v Speaker 3>now there's not.

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<v Speaker 1>What. Yeah, they're gonna be there's gonna be some tension,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, plus which you know, I have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Analysia is going to charge uh is going to

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<v Speaker 1>challenge Jack for the leader position. I don't think she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go in charge, just like find yourself a little

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<v Speaker 1>fire on the beach and roast some marshmallows. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be some tense times ahead, definitely. And also we

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<v Speaker 1>have to shout out Curly and his friend listening to

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<v Speaker 1>drive Shaft at the record store.

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<v Speaker 2>His friend and have very good things to say a show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember Purley said, Hey, I just listened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh anyway, next Tuesday, we will continue with season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode five of lost Dot dot Dot and Found.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't like it when it was dot dot dot

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<v Speaker 2>in translation, and we do not like dot dot dot.

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<v Speaker 1>And but it is a Gin and Sun flashback episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we can make some uh some conclusions

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<v Speaker 1>about how long they're going to draw out this. Bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the Tailies and the uh our existing castways together sounds like.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayby sooner. Okay, before we forget about Rosen, they got together.

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<v Speaker 1>We just hax position today. We got a We don't

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