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Speaker 6: There appear to have been some kind of large gathering overnight.
Speaker 6: Chicago police confirming that five people were shot near thirty
Speaker 6: sixth Street and Cottage Grove. Officers responded to the area
Speaker 6: around one o'clock last night one o'clock this morning, i
Speaker 6: should say. Police say while they were on scene, officers
Speaker 6: her gun shots and moved to the area of gunfire.
Speaker 6: That's where officers, they say they found multiple victims and
Speaker 6: several ambulances and paramedics were called to help those who
Speaker 6: were shot. The victim's ages ranged from seventeen to thirty
Speaker 6: six years old, and were told the seventeen year old
Speaker 6: is in critical condition. Citizen app video from the scene
Speaker 6: shows a large police presence near Ellis Park as Chicago
Speaker 6: police investigated. Police say that there were four guns that
Speaker 6: were found in the area and a person of interest
Speaker 6: was also taken in for questioning.
Speaker 4: Welcome, my friends. Yes, it's Labor Day. It's just a
Speaker 4: normal weekend in Chicago. Somewhere between forty three and fifty
Speaker 4: three people have been shot over this Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 4: While Governor Pritzker and the mayor of there, Brandon Johnson,
Speaker 4: have been busy trying to rile up the crowd with
Speaker 4: no troops in Chicago. No troops in Chicago. Of course
Speaker 4: they're not in harm's way. It is Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 4: This is Labor Day, and welcome, of course, with us
Speaker 4: to celebrate each and every holiday. Is the gentleman that
Speaker 4: runs the historyauthor dot com website historyauthor dot com. He's
Speaker 4: also a mate of mine from the Rushlomba days. He
Speaker 4: was one of Ruslan Ba's web producers with the Rustling Bush.
Speaker 4: He's a columnist. You can find his columns in the
Speaker 4: New York Sun. You can find his writings all over
Speaker 4: the internet. End. He's also an author himself. Dean carry
Speaker 4: on and says here, happy a Labor Day. Dean, how
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm okay. Happy Labor Day to everybody out there.
Speaker 1: If you're stuck in traffic, just keep easy because we're
Speaker 1: gonna take care of you.
Speaker 4: Well, why would there be traffic on Labor Day? You
Speaker 4: mean people heading from the beach, people heading from yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: all those good things enjoying. Yes. So Dean, here we
Speaker 4: are on Labor Day again. And let's first, just for
Speaker 4: the newcomers to the show, each major holiday we go
Speaker 4: through briefly the history of that day and why it
Speaker 4: is important in this case, why it's a national holiday.
Speaker 4: So why don't you run us through the specifics of
Speaker 4: Labor Day, why we are celebrating this day very quickly.
Speaker 4: Then let's touch on some current news and other things
Speaker 4: that people may or may not be aware of.
Speaker 1: That's something I love to do. I hope everyone else
Speaker 1: enjoys it as much as I do. I'll do my best.
Speaker 1: It starts with a forgotten man, Matthew McGuire. You take
Speaker 1: way back in eighteen eighties, how many Irish immigrants they
Speaker 1: were coming. They were just starting. This is a generation
Speaker 1: after the Potato famine. So they're berecoming, integrated, they're taking
Speaker 1: jobs in public they're taking jobs in the factories, the
Speaker 1: public sector, in the police. And so this Matthew McGuire decides,
Speaker 1: as a secretary of the Central Labor Union, let's get
Speaker 1: a working Man's holiday. Let's get one every year. So
Speaker 1: New York City, because we have to be first and
Speaker 1: everything decides we'll have a parade, and that's the first
Speaker 1: Labor Day parade. That's in September. On September fifth of
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty two, they have the parade and it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful story. I wrote about that in The New York
Speaker 1: Sun in twenty twenty two, and it's so different from
Speaker 1: what we think today today. We think of a lot
Speaker 1: of strife, I think when we think of labor, of
Speaker 1: those of us maybe who are older, think of it
Speaker 1: that way anyway, maybe younger people think of it differently.
Speaker 1: But you think of a lot of strife in fighting.
Speaker 1: And of course there was between companies and things like
Speaker 1: the Pinkerton goons going in and breaking up a strike.
Speaker 1: But this was a really unifying moment in eighteen eighty two,
Speaker 1: and you had businesses closing on their own just to
Speaker 1: show solidarity with the people who were working. Twelve thousand
Speaker 1: people parade up Broadway in New York City. It's really
Speaker 1: a great moment, and it sets the stage for the
Speaker 1: ones we're enjoying today. Doesn't become a federal holiday until
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety four because Grover Cleveland, who was the Democratic
Speaker 1: president at the time, he was afraid that Democrats would
Speaker 1: take heat because they had sent in some of those
Speaker 1: goons to break up the American Railroad union strike, and
Speaker 1: so he said, what can we do really fast to
Speaker 1: cover up for it? And so he decided, well, we'll
Speaker 1: make labor dre holiday, but it only applied to federal
Speaker 1: works at that time, and eventually things keep going forward,
Speaker 1: and now we have this three day weekend, and you
Speaker 1: have a lot of people by then who were powerful
Speaker 1: enough to advocate for it, and we don't even get
Speaker 1: the forty day week until nineteen forty. That takes a while.
Speaker 1: So it's a holiday that I think we tend to
Speaker 1: overlook because it sounds so generalized that we used to
Speaker 1: labor being a factor. We don't talk about it as
Speaker 1: much as we did, in part because it's starting to
Speaker 1: see a little bit of a shift. It's no longer
Speaker 1: just one of the many parts of a democratic coalition
Speaker 1: that gets ignored by everybody. Now it's changing taking a
Speaker 1: much more high profile position. I think again in life,
Speaker 1: people are thinking of it with things like trade and
Speaker 1: looking at a city like Gary, Indiana, it's all hollowed out,
Speaker 1: and so that's a bit of a history, and I
Speaker 1: think it's something that it's good to be able to
Speaker 1: look at a day like this where you just think
Speaker 1: it's the end of summer. Maybe you are in traffic,
Speaker 1: you're only thinking of those barbecues, those of us who
Speaker 1: eat meat and you're in and you forget it was.
Speaker 1: This was a holiday for people that didn't have ever
Speaker 1: that option. That's a three day week. It was a
Speaker 1: big deal for that.
Speaker 4: Well let me tell you something, by the way. Uh,
Speaker 4: just so you know, Uh, vegans and vegetarians also barbecue.
Speaker 4: We just barbecue different things.
Speaker 1: Why are you covered under those laws against burning leaves
Speaker 1: in your backyard? Is that the same?
Speaker 4: You know what? I don't know, you're you're thinking California
Speaker 4: or some other place. No, you know, actually that isn't
Speaker 4: an other Democratic strongholds. Uh No, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 4: And I think that we would, you know, one of
Speaker 4: these days if it comes down to people, and they did.
Speaker 4: They tried to ban people from barbecuing at some point
Speaker 4: in uh or using charcoal. I think it was in
Speaker 4: one of these liberal strongholds. If that ever comes up.
Speaker 4: There were laws that people do ignore, uh because it's
Speaker 4: civil disobedience in a way. But I'm not that attached
Speaker 4: to it anyway. Uh So let's go back for me
Speaker 4: because you mentioned the union. Now a lot of of
Speaker 4: course unions still are a significant force. If you look
Speaker 4: at the national the teach, the various teachers unions, the
Speaker 4: two biggest ones the NEA and the National Federation of
Speaker 4: Teachers with wine Garden. She's out there today ranting and
Speaker 4: raising Randy Winegarden. So the teachers unions are there, afl
Speaker 4: CIO not quite the force that it was even in
Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies. Uh, but you look at
Speaker 4: some of the other unions that have totally lost clout.
Speaker 4: But then you've had, you've had a great success with
Speaker 4: union growth inside the government sector, and that is undergoing
Speaker 4: some changes too right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the government especially since originally you had as
Speaker 1: a quote that sided before with FDR that he didn't
Speaker 1: believe in government unions because you can't campaign against yourself,
Speaker 1: you can't go strike against yourself. And we've seen that
Speaker 1: so many times since. It's even worse up in Canada,
Speaker 1: where they can bring the mail, they can bring the
Speaker 1: airlines to a stop because they just demand what they
Speaker 1: want to happen. We had it just here with New
Speaker 1: Jersey Transit in New Jersey, which is also operated with
Speaker 1: Metro North into New York. And so there is a
Speaker 1: distinction there between the public and the private unions. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why We're seeing a shift right now,
Speaker 1: driven by President Trump's policies, driven by even things as
Speaker 1: simple as the Hollywood tariff on foreign made films. You
Speaker 1: had the Teamster's president going and praising it, speaking at
Speaker 1: the Reprobalican National Convention, and then Bernie Sanders won't take
Speaker 1: US calls anymore after that, he said that not be
Speaker 1: and it just seems crazy you think that they would
Speaker 1: want that, but you would, I guess, be naive to
Speaker 1: think so. But we're seeing definitely a shift in labor
Speaker 1: and in who they're supporting, and an overall realignment because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in labor felt that
Speaker 1: the unions didn't reflect what they wanted, they didn't reflect
Speaker 1: the change at the rest of the country underwent. Even
Speaker 1: last year, there was a huge difference two to one
Speaker 1: for the two polls the Teamsters took of their members
Speaker 1: for President Trump, and so the Teamsters decided they just
Speaker 1: wouldn't they wouldn't recommend anybody, they wouldn't endorse anybody rather,
Speaker 1: and they've only done that twice since nineteen sixty. So
Speaker 1: it's definitely a shift. And then you have people acting
Speaker 1: like jerks like Bernie Sanders. There is no other way
Speaker 1: to put it, And a lot of people getting mad
Speaker 1: at the Teamster's president for going Sean O'Brien and speaking
Speaker 1: at the Republican conventions, and that just drives people farther away.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a theme we're seeing right now
Speaker 1: in politics.
Speaker 4: Well, there are a lot of things that we're seeing.
Speaker 4: I tell you what, We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 4: Come back. When I get back, I want to speak
Speaker 4: with you about a few things. You have a column
Speaker 4: to Day by the way, over the weekend, and I
Speaker 4: have to say I very rarely miss stories, Dean, but
Speaker 4: yesterday I decided I'm just going to take a day.
Speaker 4: I just needed to recharge. So lo and behold. I
Speaker 4: get back in the news and I'm hearing about all
Speaker 4: this business about the viral death rumor of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: And you wrote a column about that about the things
Speaker 4: going on that what happened over the weekend, which is
Speaker 4: just to me unbelievable that this thing, apparently it was
Speaker 4: a big to do all day on social media with
Speaker 4: rumors floating around about the president. So when we get back,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that. We've got some other things. Speaking
Speaker 4: of labor, New York Times has written an article, has
Speaker 4: a published an article about black women. They are among
Speaker 4: the hardest hit Black women hardest hit as the federal
Speaker 4: government reduces its workforce under Donald Trump. And so we've
Speaker 4: got a bunch of things to h to talk about.
Speaker 4: Let's check in the fastest hour in American media. Happy
Speaker 4: Labor Day, Stay with us, The.
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Speaker 8: If you're planning a road trip this holiday weekend, gas
Speaker 8: prices at their lowest level for a Labor Day weekend
Speaker 8: in years. In some states, they are below three dollars
Speaker 8: a gallon. Matt Egan is here with the good news.
Speaker 8: We have say goodbye the summer, but we're going to
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Erica. Look you are in luck
Speaker 1: if you're hitting the roads this holiday weekend.
Speaker 9: Gas Buddy is projecting the national averages Labor Day three
Speaker 9: fifteen a gallon.
Speaker 1: That's the lowest since twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Of course, back then, the roads we're pretty James Goldin's
Speaker 4: slurly with you here with me, the one, the only
Speaker 4: Dean carrianis hisstoryauthor dot com New York Sun columnist author,
Speaker 4: And you have a column today about this thing, this
Speaker 4: rumored dean that took the the social media by storm.
Speaker 4: Leftist glee over Trump is dead rumor bodes ill for
Speaker 4: the Democrat Party's return to reality.
Speaker 1: Splain, well, I want quick thing. Gloria as Stefan. I
Speaker 1: always loved that she made a Castro, made Fidel Castro uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Didn't like her, they would all, but her music was awesome.
Speaker 1: So what did they do? They only ever referred to
Speaker 1: her in the country as MSM when they were Miami
Speaker 1: Sound Machine because her family had escaped and suffered, And
Speaker 1: so I always think of that when I hear Gloria happy. Dean.
Speaker 4: I did not know that. I don't know how I
Speaker 4: miss that.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's what I'm here for. That's the only
Speaker 1: reason to bring out a guest is that they can
Speaker 1: tell something. Not the plug books, not the plug movies,
Speaker 1: not to make campaign speeches. It's to offer details about
Speaker 1: things like Miami Sound Machine.
Speaker 4: I did not know they refuse so in Cuba when
Speaker 4: they referred to the music, they refused to refer to
Speaker 4: it as Miami saw machine just MSM huh.
Speaker 1: Yep, because they didn't want to talk about Miami, right,
Speaker 1: that was a big thorn. The thriving Cuban community in
Speaker 1: Miami was a thorn in the side to Castro and
Speaker 1: his he would give you, They give you the bright
Speaker 1: lights of Miami and the beautiful girls on the beach
Speaker 1: and Crockett and tubs. And what did Castro give you?
Speaker 1: Either a sentence in prison or a rice cooker. Those
Speaker 1: are the two extreme.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, okay, this rumor, what what the hell?
Speaker 1: What a bizarre, bizarre rumor? Really strange. And I think
Speaker 1: anyone can write a story and cite a bunch of
Speaker 1: the weird things and condemn it and say that it's terrible.
Speaker 1: But my goal, as I know yours, is always say
Speaker 1: something different. So I can list some of the things
Speaker 1: that have happened in the past and just criticize it
Speaker 1: and wag my finger, But that's not really my job.
Speaker 1: And so to me, I looked at it from a
Speaker 1: broader perspective, it's more just the Democrats. They just wish
Speaker 1: that he would die and they'd be done with them,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to do the hard work. It's
Speaker 1: going to take to come back.
Speaker 4: Wow. Well, of course this whole thing was exploded when
Speaker 4: Trump appeared. That it got started because they said he
Speaker 4: hadn't appeared for two days, and they off to the races.
Speaker 4: They went in their fantasy land. All right, Dean home on.
Speaker 4: When we get back, let's get some news of the day.
Speaker 4: There's plenty of stuff happening out here. I want to
Speaker 4: get some of your opinion on and also touch based
Speaker 4: on including CBS did it again with their editing. It's
Speaker 4: just amazing they didn't learn after the sixty minutes debacle.
Speaker 4: We'll be back Aiame's goldin. It's nearly with you here.
Speaker 4: A happy Labor Day, folks, keep it right here.
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Speaker 10: So about the Minnesota shooting, and it brought me right
Speaker 10: back to Columbine in nineteen ninety nine when I just
Speaker 10: could not get it through my head that students in
Speaker 10: America were shooting each other in schools, and this was
Speaker 10: a church inside a Catholic school, and what do you
Speaker 10: know was a white guy, Republican maga person, what do
Speaker 10: you know? White supremacist? Hi, everybody, it's Rosio Donald Star
Speaker 10: the Flintstones. Listen of a call sort. I know it happens,
Speaker 10: get run down, you know. Anyway, I know a lot
Speaker 10: of you were very upset about the video I made
Speaker 10: before I went away. Uh For a few days, I
Speaker 10: didn't go online and haven't seen them till today.
Speaker 1: But you are right.
Speaker 10: I did not do my due diligence before I made
Speaker 10: that emotional statement, and I said things about the shooter
Speaker 10: that were incorrect. I assumed, like most shooters, they followed
Speaker 10: a standard mo O and had standard you know, feelings
Speaker 10: of you know, uh nra love and kind of gun people. Anyway,
Speaker 10: the truth is I messed up, and when you mess up,
Speaker 10: you fess up. I'm sorry. This is my apology video,
Speaker 10: and I hope it's enough.
Speaker 4: Isn't enough? Indeed? Well, I'm I mean pays attention anyway. Well, anyway,
Speaker 4: that's Rosie before and after on this Labor Day. James
Speaker 4: Golden is here. Dean carry Onis is with US historyauthor
Speaker 4: dot com also New York Sun. You can check out
Speaker 4: all his columns there. If you don't get through it
Speaker 4: on the Sun, go to Apple News. You can read
Speaker 4: his columns there on Apple News so many other places. Uh, Dean,
Speaker 4: Let's go through a few things. Typically, Labor Day is
Speaker 4: the beginning of the political season in an election, when
Speaker 4: it goes in earnest the lead up to the fall elections.
Speaker 4: This year, two governors races on the table. You've got
Speaker 4: that race in Virginia and the race in New Jersey.
Speaker 4: You have any thoughts on either of those the outcome
Speaker 4: of those races.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm surprised, which again I shouldn't be some eve anymore,
Speaker 1: but that winsome Seers. Who's such an attractive candidate as
Speaker 1: far as well as far as everything. But somebody who's
Speaker 1: done a lot of things. And I missed those kinds
Speaker 1: of candidates, I guess because I do live in the
Speaker 1: past and look at history. But they also tend to
Speaker 1: turn out better than the people who are just working
Speaker 1: away in school and in the academic room. And we
Speaker 1: need to look no further than Joe Biden. Nobody would
Speaker 1: think that he would have. They kept saying he had experience, experience, experience. Well,
Speaker 1: he was only ever in the Senate, and that's sorry.
Speaker 1: He read a lot of papers about foreign matters when
Speaker 1: he was on the Foreign Services Committee in the Senate.
Speaker 1: But kind of like reading about sex and having sex
Speaker 1: doesn't make you have experience. And I just love that she.
Speaker 1: I just love that she's a good candidate, and I
Speaker 1: don't understand why more people, even in the conservative media,
Speaker 1: just seem to have pretty much ignored her. And that's
Speaker 1: one thing. And of course in New Jersey, what can
Speaker 1: we say about Jack Chitarelli again getting a chance to run.
Speaker 1: He came so close last time, but it was against
Speaker 1: an incumbent. New Jersey people always tend to dislike whoever
Speaker 1: our incumbent democrat is, and it's hard to overthrow them.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of going back to the Jim Florio years
Speaker 1: and National Republicans ignore the state. They think, well, we're
Speaker 1: not going to win it. But in recent years, and
Speaker 1: this is something I've written about at the Sun, it's
Speaker 1: been trending Republican. We're getting more and more people here
Speaker 1: that are saying they want to switch and they want
Speaker 1: to vote for the other party, that they don't like
Speaker 1: a one party state, that they're dissatisfied with the ballooning spending. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we had Chris Christy who didn't do anything to build
Speaker 1: his party, so it's not much of a choice. But
Speaker 1: it may be surprising. It's actually it's been shifting for
Speaker 1: a while, and I don't have the numbers right in
Speaker 1: front of me, but each time President Trump did better,
Speaker 1: and I think it goes back to that thing we
Speaker 1: were talking about a minute ago, about just the reality
Speaker 1: and about how they took solace here in this fantasy
Speaker 1: that Trump was dead and it would solve all their problems.
Speaker 1: Their problems go much much deeper than one man than
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They have negative poll numbers. They're losing overall
Speaker 1: five point i'm sorry, four point five million voters between
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. That's acclording to L
Speaker 1: two data. They check the thirty states that track partisan
Speaker 1: voter registration, and in every single one, Democrats have lost ground.
Speaker 1: And it's because they're not going out there and doing
Speaker 1: that hard work to be persuasive. They think that they
Speaker 1: can just motivate people if we really don't like Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and that's certainly possible. There's unlikable things about a lot
Speaker 1: of people, but being even more unlikable and just thinking
Speaker 1: that you can insult him out of existence and deny that.
Speaker 1: Doug Shoan told me President Clinton's polster in ninety six
Speaker 1: who I'm friends with, and he said, we went and
Speaker 1: we worked. We understood that there's talent with the with
Speaker 1: the guy like New king Rich and so we worked
Speaker 1: with them when we could. We found something. Okay, we
Speaker 1: like it, but let's do it a different way. We
Speaker 1: like that idea. We think that's a problem, like with crime.
Speaker 1: So let's look at it. Let's look at it our way.
Speaker 1: These are our solutions, not this obstinatece of just saying
Speaker 1: no to everything, denying there's even a problem. Living in
Speaker 1: this alternate reality. I think that's a real problem because
Speaker 1: they're not working with Trump. They're not recognizing. As Doug
Speaker 1: said to me, he said, I'm a political guy. I
Speaker 1: could see that Trump has talent. I can see that
Speaker 1: he's willing to go down with these hard hats that
Speaker 1: are teamsterairs that have probably never cast a single Republican
Speaker 1: vote out of their family, never mind them going back
Speaker 1: for generations to those steel mills that were on strike
Speaker 1: back in Grover Cleveland's day. He said, that's a talent,
Speaker 1: it's an ability. He's somebody that people find likable, they
Speaker 1: think that he's on their side. They take all the
Speaker 1: things that makes the Washington establishment clutch their pearls and
Speaker 1: stroke their beards and say, what are we going to
Speaker 1: do with this Donald Trump? They love the hooset things
Speaker 1: about the guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, one thing that I would just want to
Speaker 4: point out that New Jersey for a minute. I don't know,
Speaker 4: it was a three point race last time. We'll see
Speaker 4: what happens. It looks like that. I have an NBC story,
Speaker 4: excuse me, and I don't think that they are willing
Speaker 4: to give win some earl see any undue credit. But
Speaker 4: one of the things they're saying in the story is
Speaker 4: that despite the criticism that came her way privately publicly,
Speaker 4: campaign was undisciplined. She shook up her team. She's been
Speaker 4: more focused on message, and she has learned to even
Speaker 4: harder try to lean into what Governor Youngkin has accomplished. So,
Speaker 4: the last polling in that race in Virginia, the Roano
Speaker 4: College poll of likely voters, which is important rather than
Speaker 4: just registered voters, of likely voters, shows forty six to
Speaker 4: thirty nine leagues. It's six point It's a six point
Speaker 4: game right now, but fourteen percent of the voters they
Speaker 4: are undecided. So now that and the poll they did
Speaker 4: has a four point three plus or minus, which means
Speaker 4: this race in Virginia isn't out it isn't out of question.
Speaker 4: And these are the key weeks where it's either going
Speaker 4: to tighten up or else. Spannenberger. Of this, Abigail will
Speaker 4: will be able to Spanburger will be able to increase
Speaker 4: her league, but it's not as of this moment, it's
Speaker 4: not out of reach, and she's making up ground. And
Speaker 4: this is the critical stage. So I wouldn't throw that
Speaker 4: one just in the it looks bad race. It could
Speaker 4: be a competitive contest in Virginia. Your guest good as mine.
Speaker 4: In New Jersey, I don't know how New Jersey puts
Speaker 4: up with the candidates that they're offered. I don't understand it.
Speaker 4: You have a high tax that is continually frustrating voters
Speaker 4: and what voters really want out of government, but yet
Speaker 4: it just seems to be a locked in blue state.
Speaker 4: And that's it. I remember when New Jersey was a
Speaker 4: very competitive state. It was more purple than blue. I
Speaker 4: don't know, and of course, yes, Chris Christy, So I'll
Speaker 4: leave it at that. Dean.
Speaker 1: Well, the numbers, as I said, I won't read them
Speaker 1: to you, but there have been encouraging numbers for people
Speaker 1: that would like to see just a break in the
Speaker 1: one party stranglehold that has been on this state and
Speaker 1: maybe push back on some of these things that I think.
Speaker 1: Part of it is education, part of it is being,
Speaker 1: as Benjamin Franklin called New Jersey keg tapped at both ends.
Speaker 1: People are paying attention to Abillity, they're paying attention to
Speaker 1: New York, and it's really hard to get people to
Speaker 1: pay attention to the local politics.
Speaker 4: Okay, tapped it both ends. That's a really great say. Okay,
Speaker 4: I want to rapidly get through it. Few things to
Speaker 4: get your opinion on Carlos. Let's first, this one goes
Speaker 4: by first quick, folks, because we're only playing the end
Speaker 4: of the interview the way that it was capped off
Speaker 4: by the moderator on Face the Nation. Cut one Carlos,
Speaker 4: and then we'll go to the next one.
Speaker 11: And the one thing that we will continue to do
Speaker 11: is to make sure that he doesn't walk for you
Speaker 11: in the United States of America.
Speaker 4: That's the way the interview talking about mister Abrego. Now
Speaker 4: this is what was left out of Chris of that sentence.
Speaker 4: This is the entire sentence from Christy nome cut two.
Speaker 11: This individual was a known human smuggler MS thirteen gang member,
Speaker 11: an individual who was a wife beater and someone who
Speaker 11: was so perverted that he solicited nude photos from minors
Speaker 11: and even his fellow human traffickers told him to knock
Speaker 11: it off. He was so sick and what he was
Speaker 11: doing and how he was treating small children. So he
Speaker 11: needs to never be in the United States of America,
Speaker 11: and our administration is making sure we're doing all that
Speaker 11: we can to bring him to justice.
Speaker 4: Dean, what sense does it make to edit out her
Speaker 4: description of Kilmar Albrego Garcia. This is CBS, This has
Speaker 4: faced the nation. Would you expect more?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been. This is my third time saying I
Speaker 1: guess it would be that if I said I was naive,
Speaker 1: So I guess by now, I just expect it. But
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't imagine doing it. I just can't
Speaker 1: imagine the whole idea of just grabbing somebody, grabbing out
Speaker 1: to it because you've been told we must protect this
Speaker 1: person at all costs. It's a person that's really good
Speaker 1: for us politically and never adjusting, never realizing it's fellow
Speaker 1: human traffickers are saying this guy's no good and told
Speaker 1: him to knock it off. Well, maybe that's when you
Speaker 1: make you distance yourself from them. At least you don't
Speaker 1: have to. You don't have to, you don't have to
Speaker 1: play that bite at all. You could just not talk
Speaker 1: about it. And I think this is something that deals
Speaker 1: with that living in reality theme, because people don't realize
Speaker 1: they're not getting their news just from UCBS anymore. They
Speaker 1: can go on the internet, they can see the whole interview,
Speaker 1: they can hear everything, and they're gonna call you out
Speaker 1: on it. And I just absurd they think you'll buy that,
Speaker 1: that you won't under that you won't look into it.
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump had another dust up with Donna Brazil,
Speaker 4: which I don't even have time to get into today.
Speaker 4: And the fact that Donna Brazil, you know, and I
Speaker 4: met Donna Brazil before. I've had some interesting conversations with
Speaker 4: Donna Brazil many many years ago. But the fact that she's,
Speaker 4: after admitting what she did in the Hillary debate, that
Speaker 4: they're still going to her is just stunning to me.
Speaker 4: But Okay, let me move on. I got some names
Speaker 4: to run by, Dean, because time is short. We got
Speaker 4: to head out of here soon. The fastest hour in
Speaker 4: American media there is the Hill today has ranking for
Speaker 4: the Democrat contenders for the presidential race in two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight. Now on, once we get past the midterm elections,
Speaker 4: once we get past this next Labor Day, Dean, we're
Speaker 4: going to be talking presidential in It's going to start
Speaker 4: to dominate the news cycle.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 4: So here's what they think, and just give me very
Speaker 4: quickly what you think about each name. I guess I
Speaker 4: should start from the bottom of the list, and there
Speaker 4: are a few bottom of the list. Kentucky Governor Andy Bescher,
Speaker 4: he's number ten ranked potential Democrat presidential in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: All I ever hear is how much people like him.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it get tested, and I'm not
Speaker 1: s so sure that he can convert that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there's too many guys who are too noe,
Speaker 1: too well known. If we're even going to talk about
Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty eight, this more out for somebody who's
Speaker 1: really a new beat to emerge.
Speaker 4: But we'll see Chris Murphy Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants a president from Connecticut. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the party. He's gonna raise a little bit
Speaker 1: of money in the entire state area, but when you
Speaker 1: think of Connecticut, I just don't think that's what Democratic
Speaker 1: voters are going for. I think I don't know if
Speaker 1: jab Pritzker is on this list, but there's another guy
Speaker 1: for sam little reasons. I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: buy the no no, shoot all the other billionaires, but
Speaker 1: not me, so to speak, only.
Speaker 4: Number eight, number eight on the list, Governor Josh Shapiro
Speaker 4: out of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He seems much more interesting, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: he can get the nomination. Considering all the anti Semitism
Speaker 1: we've seen exploding on the left. I know that was
Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom that that's why Kamala Harris didn't pick him,
Speaker 1: but it seems like that that could be hurting him.
Speaker 1: And then also then I think the most attractive guy
Speaker 1: there from that state, probably the sameest one they have
Speaker 1: against all the odds as far as who makes sense
Speaker 1: as the same pick, is John Fetterman. And they can't
Speaker 1: pick him. He's in there, and I don't think he'd
Speaker 1: want to take him out.
Speaker 4: Number seven former Transportation Secretary Pete Boudaget.
Speaker 1: Well, we know he didn't do a particularly great job
Speaker 1: when he was in there, and we know.
Speaker 4: Cal shaking his head. No he mentioned of his name. No, No,
Speaker 4: he didn't do a great job when he was in there.
Speaker 4: So do you think he has a shot?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he'll get a better
Speaker 1: cabinet position should the Democrat land. But that's about it.
Speaker 4: Number six Michigan guy went to Gretchen whitmer.
Speaker 1: I don't get Gretchen whitmery if it's about the records, and,
Speaker 1: as I was saying earlier, usually not about the records
Speaker 1: as much as we might like it to be. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of the people who just jump in. I
Speaker 1: don't see the skills in the life story that she
Speaker 1: brings to it. And I don't think she's really telegenic.
Speaker 1: I think that picture, don't You don't think she's telegenic.
Speaker 1: I don't really. I think the old pictures maybe are.
Speaker 1: But you know, I guess you age in office. Do
Speaker 1: people really want to watch somebody ask that? Once?
Speaker 4: A woman ooh, asking the question about Hillary Clinton Okay,
Speaker 4: number five, pres girb. But you've already answered priskers. So
Speaker 4: in the instance of time, we move on number three.
Speaker 4: Oh no, okay, number four. I'm sorry we were about
Speaker 4: to skip over Maryland's Governor west Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's interesting because he seems to be doing what
Speaker 1: I was saying that Doug Jones said, willing to say, yes,
Speaker 1: we think crime is a problem, we'd welcome some federal help,
Speaker 1: not denying outright, how can you deny crimes a problem
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, noting the citing the trend thing down. He
Speaker 1: seems like. But I don't know if he has the
Speaker 1: overall political skills, but they clearly really want him, and
Speaker 1: I think he could be an attractive candidate for them
Speaker 1: because he comes from a place that's going to be
Speaker 1: able to raise a lot of money, more so than Connecticut.
Speaker 4: I would say number three, Kamala.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to want her again.
Speaker 1: I can't see that they would. I started to write
Speaker 1: a call about how he was following a little bit
Speaker 1: of the Nixon roots back to the presidency, but I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think she was so contrived. I
Speaker 1: think Biden really oh gave her a hard time, let's say,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to use a screwed But.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's move one to number two. Things. Who do
Speaker 4: you think would be number two? Quickly? Who do you
Speaker 4: think the number two person is.
Speaker 1: On this list? This isn't based on poland.
Speaker 4: Right, Carlos said. Carlos just and he haven't seen the auto.
Speaker 4: Carlos just said, number two on the list has to
Speaker 4: be AOC. Number two on the list AOC. What do
Speaker 4: you think, Dean?
Speaker 1: I think if you want someone who will win a
Speaker 1: bunch of primaries, probably she could make a lot of
Speaker 1: noise there. But I can't imagine her managing to get
Speaker 1: enough votes to be elected president. Maybe she wants to
Speaker 1: be vice president, but I think she is going to
Speaker 1: be like leaving something out. I think, so what do
Speaker 1: they say about politicians and fish they start to stink.
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna have a really hard time having
Speaker 1: staying power because she's not She's wide, but she's not
Speaker 1: that deep as far as the intellect and ability. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things like pretending she is
Speaker 1: from the mean Street to the Bronx which she grew
Speaker 1: up in Westchester, A lot more of that will come out.
Speaker 1: If she's under that spotlight, she should run for Senate
Speaker 1: or stay where she is.
Speaker 4: All Right, we gotta take a break. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: just give me two words to describe the number one
Speaker 4: choice or three. Gavin Dowsome. Uh, gross, he's number one.
Speaker 4: We got to take your break, Dean. We'll let you
Speaker 4: go here. Thank you so much for staying with us
Speaker 4: and hanging out with us this Labor Day.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. Invite you back anytime, and happy Labor Day, everybody.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your rest.
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