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Officers responded to the area 31 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.840 around one o'clock last night one o'clock this morning, i 32 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.079 should say. Police say while they were on scene, officers 33 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.239 her gun shots and moved to the area of gunfire. 34 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.920 That's where officers, they say they found multiple victims and 35 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.640 several ambulances and paramedics were called to help those who 36 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.519 were shot. The victim's ages ranged from seventeen to thirty 37 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.680 six years old, and were told the seventeen year old 38 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.719 is in critical condition. Citizen app video from the scene 39 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:49.000 shows a large police presence near Ellis Park as Chicago 40 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.040 police investigated. Police say that there were four guns that 41 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.560 were found in the area and a person of interest 42 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.439 was also taken in for questioning. 43 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:04.319 Welcome, my friends. Yes, it's Labor Day. It's just a 44 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:08.840 normal weekend in Chicago. Somewhere between forty three and fifty 45 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:13.360 three people have been shot over this Labor Day weekend. 46 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:18.520 While Governor Pritzker and the mayor of there, Brandon Johnson, 47 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.240 have been busy trying to rile up the crowd with 48 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.639 no troops in Chicago. No troops in Chicago. Of course 49 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.960 they're not in harm's way. It is Labor Day weekend. 50 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:35.840 This is Labor Day, and welcome, of course, with us 51 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:42.400 to celebrate each and every holiday. Is the gentleman that 52 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:47.680 runs the historyauthor dot com website historyauthor dot com. He's 53 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.759 also a mate of mine from the Rushlomba days. He 54 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:55.599 was one of Ruslan Ba's web producers with the Rustling Bush. 55 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.080 He's a columnist. You can find his columns in the 56 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.280 New York Sun. You can find his writings all over 57 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:10.240 the internet. End. He's also an author himself. Dean carry 58 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.759 on and says here, happy a Labor Day. Dean, how 59 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:13.080 are you? 60 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.560 Thank you? I'm okay. Happy Labor Day to everybody out there. 61 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.879 If you're stuck in traffic, just keep easy because we're 62 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:21.680 gonna take care of you. 63 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:27.000 Well, why would there be traffic on Labor Day? You 64 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.840 mean people heading from the beach, people heading from yes, yes, yes, 65 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:35.400 all those good things enjoying. Yes. So Dean, here we 66 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:40.719 are on Labor Day again. And let's first, just for 67 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:44.560 the newcomers to the show, each major holiday we go 68 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.719 through briefly the history of that day and why it 69 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.400 is important in this case, why it's a national holiday. 70 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.719 So why don't you run us through the specifics of 71 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.639 Labor Day, why we are celebrating this day very quickly. 72 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:00.879 Then let's touch on some current news and other things 73 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.000 that people may or may not be aware of. 74 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.479 That's something I love to do. I hope everyone else 75 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.680 enjoys it as much as I do. I'll do my best. 76 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:14.120 It starts with a forgotten man, Matthew McGuire. You take 77 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.720 way back in eighteen eighties, how many Irish immigrants they 78 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.360 were coming. They were just starting. This is a generation 79 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.519 after the Potato famine. So they're berecoming, integrated, they're taking 80 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.240 jobs in public they're taking jobs in the factories, the 81 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:32.360 public sector, in the police. And so this Matthew McGuire decides, 82 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.639 as a secretary of the Central Labor Union, let's get 83 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.759 a working Man's holiday. Let's get one every year. So 84 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:40.920 New York City, because we have to be first and 85 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.439 everything decides we'll have a parade, and that's the first 86 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.160 Labor Day parade. That's in September. On September fifth of 87 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.120 eighteen eighty two, they have the parade and it's a 88 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.759 beautiful story. I wrote about that in The New York 89 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.360 Sun in twenty twenty two, and it's so different from 90 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.120 what we think today today. We think of a lot 91 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.399 of strife, I think when we think of labor, of 92 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.120 those of us maybe who are older, think of it 93 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.839 that way anyway, maybe younger people think of it differently. 94 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.040 But you think of a lot of strife in fighting. 95 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:13.160 And of course there was between companies and things like 96 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.480 the Pinkerton goons going in and breaking up a strike. 97 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.920 But this was a really unifying moment in eighteen eighty two, 98 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.839 and you had businesses closing on their own just to 99 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.240 show solidarity with the people who were working. Twelve thousand 100 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.079 people parade up Broadway in New York City. It's really 101 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.600 a great moment, and it sets the stage for the 102 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.560 ones we're enjoying today. Doesn't become a federal holiday until 103 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:41.480 eighteen ninety four because Grover Cleveland, who was the Democratic 104 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.839 president at the time, he was afraid that Democrats would 105 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.879 take heat because they had sent in some of those 106 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:52.000 goons to break up the American Railroad union strike, and 107 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.439 so he said, what can we do really fast to 108 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.560 cover up for it? And so he decided, well, we'll 109 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.839 make labor dre holiday, but it only applied to federal 110 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:04.480 works at that time, and eventually things keep going forward, 111 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.560 and now we have this three day weekend, and you 112 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.720 have a lot of people by then who were powerful 113 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.879 enough to advocate for it, and we don't even get 114 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.920 the forty day week until nineteen forty. That takes a while. 115 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.519 So it's a holiday that I think we tend to 116 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.079 overlook because it sounds so generalized that we used to 117 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.519 labor being a factor. We don't talk about it as 118 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.319 much as we did, in part because it's starting to 119 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.199 see a little bit of a shift. It's no longer 120 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.759 just one of the many parts of a democratic coalition 121 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.600 that gets ignored by everybody. Now it's changing taking a 122 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.120 much more high profile position. I think again in life, 123 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.319 people are thinking of it with things like trade and 124 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.519 looking at a city like Gary, Indiana, it's all hollowed out, 125 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.519 and so that's a bit of a history, and I 126 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.680 think it's something that it's good to be able to 127 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.000 look at a day like this where you just think 128 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:52.839 it's the end of summer. Maybe you are in traffic, 129 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.279 you're only thinking of those barbecues, those of us who 130 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:00.560 eat meat and you're in and you forget it was. 131 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.839 This was a holiday for people that didn't have ever 132 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.680 that option. That's a three day week. It was a 133 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:06.519 big deal for that. 134 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.360 Well let me tell you something, by the way. Uh, 135 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.879 just so you know, Uh, vegans and vegetarians also barbecue. 136 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:16.600 We just barbecue different things. 137 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.319 Why are you covered under those laws against burning leaves 138 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.639 in your backyard? Is that the same? 139 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.240 You know what? I don't know, you're you're thinking California 140 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.720 or some other place. No, you know, actually that isn't 141 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.920 an other Democratic strongholds. Uh No, I'm not. I'm not. 142 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.680 And I think that we would, you know, one of 143 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.519 these days if it comes down to people, and they did. 144 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.399 They tried to ban people from barbecuing at some point 145 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.519 in uh or using charcoal. I think it was in 146 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.720 one of these liberal strongholds. If that ever comes up. 147 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:57.839 There were laws that people do ignore, uh because it's 148 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:02.120 civil disobedience in a way. But I'm not that attached 149 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.680 to it anyway. Uh So let's go back for me 150 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.240 because you mentioned the union. Now a lot of of 151 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.360 course unions still are a significant force. If you look 152 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:17.439 at the national the teach, the various teachers unions, the 153 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:21.000 two biggest ones the NEA and the National Federation of 154 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.920 Teachers with wine Garden. She's out there today ranting and 155 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:29.319 raising Randy Winegarden. So the teachers unions are there, afl 156 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:33.159 CIO not quite the force that it was even in 157 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.399 the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies. Uh, but you look at 158 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:40.919 some of the other unions that have totally lost clout. 159 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.799 But then you've had, you've had a great success with 160 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:50.840 union growth inside the government sector, and that is undergoing 161 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.480 some changes too right now. 162 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:59.240 Yeah, and the government especially since originally you had as 163 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.519 a quote that sided before with FDR that he didn't 164 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:06.679 believe in government unions because you can't campaign against yourself, 165 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.360 you can't go strike against yourself. And we've seen that 166 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.799 so many times since. It's even worse up in Canada, 167 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.840 where they can bring the mail, they can bring the 168 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.720 airlines to a stop because they just demand what they 169 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:19.799 want to happen. We had it just here with New 170 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:22.840 Jersey Transit in New Jersey, which is also operated with 171 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.679 Metro North into New York. And so there is a 172 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:29.919 distinction there between the public and the private unions. And 173 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:33.000 I think that's why We're seeing a shift right now, 174 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.759 driven by President Trump's policies, driven by even things as 175 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:40.519 simple as the Hollywood tariff on foreign made films. You 176 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:44.399 had the Teamster's president going and praising it, speaking at 177 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.559 the Reprobalican National Convention, and then Bernie Sanders won't take 178 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.519 US calls anymore after that, he said that not be 179 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.120 and it just seems crazy you think that they would 180 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.320 want that, but you would, I guess, be naive to 181 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:01.480 think so. But we're seeing definitely a shift in labor 182 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.399 and in who they're supporting, and an overall realignment because 183 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.039 I think a lot of people in labor felt that 184 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.080 the unions didn't reflect what they wanted, they didn't reflect 185 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.919 the change at the rest of the country underwent. Even 186 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.360 last year, there was a huge difference two to one 187 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.039 for the two polls the Teamsters took of their members 188 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.080 for President Trump, and so the Teamsters decided they just 189 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.720 wouldn't they wouldn't recommend anybody, they wouldn't endorse anybody rather, 190 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:32.080 and they've only done that twice since nineteen sixty. So 191 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:36.240 it's definitely a shift. And then you have people acting 192 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.360 like jerks like Bernie Sanders. There is no other way 193 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.000 to put it, And a lot of people getting mad 194 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.320 at the Teamster's president for going Sean O'Brien and speaking 195 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.080 at the Republican conventions, and that just drives people farther away. 196 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.080 And I think that's a theme we're seeing right now 197 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:49.799 in politics. 198 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:52.519 Well, there are a lot of things that we're seeing. 199 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.279 I tell you what, We're going to take a quick break. 200 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:56.440 Come back. When I get back, I want to speak 201 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.159 with you about a few things. You have a column 202 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.279 to Day by the way, over the weekend, and I 203 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.919 have to say I very rarely miss stories, Dean, but 204 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:07.200 yesterday I decided I'm just going to take a day. 205 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.759 I just needed to recharge. So lo and behold. I 206 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:13.960 get back in the news and I'm hearing about all 207 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:19.720 this business about the viral death rumor of Donald Trump. 208 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:23.159 And you wrote a column about that about the things 209 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.639 going on that what happened over the weekend, which is 210 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.799 just to me unbelievable that this thing, apparently it was 211 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.799 a big to do all day on social media with 212 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.679 rumors floating around about the president. So when we get back, 213 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.320 we'll talk about that. We've got some other things. Speaking 214 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.679 of labor, New York Times has written an article, has 215 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.200 a published an article about black women. They are among 216 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:53.639 the hardest hit Black women hardest hit as the federal 217 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:58.840 government reduces its workforce under Donald Trump. And so we've 218 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.519 got a bunch of things to h to talk about. 219 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:08.720 Let's check in the fastest hour in American media. Happy 220 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.480 Labor Day, Stay with us, The. 221 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.000 Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple Podcast Network. 222 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:27.320 The Rush Hour with James Golden Entertaining and Informative on 223 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.320 the Red Apple Podcast Network. 224 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.600 If you're planning a road trip this holiday weekend, gas 225 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:35.200 prices at their lowest level for a Labor Day weekend 226 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.919 in years. In some states, they are below three dollars 227 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.720 a gallon. Matt Egan is here with the good news. 228 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:42.679 We have say goodbye the summer, but we're going to 229 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:43.919 do it and save some cash. 230 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.080 That's right, that's right, Erica. Look you are in luck 231 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:47.840 if you're hitting the roads this holiday weekend. 232 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.879 Gas Buddy is projecting the national averages Labor Day three 233 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:53.480 fifteen a gallon. 234 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.120 That's the lowest since twenty twenty. 235 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.799 Of course, back then, the roads we're pretty James Goldin's 236 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:03.080 slurly with you here with me, the one, the only 237 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.879 Dean carrianis hisstoryauthor dot com New York Sun columnist author, 238 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:11.240 And you have a column today about this thing, this 239 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:18.639 rumored dean that took the the social media by storm. 240 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:26.639 Leftist glee over Trump is dead rumor bodes ill for 241 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.200 the Democrat Party's return to reality. 242 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:38.039 Splain, well, I want quick thing. Gloria as Stefan. I 243 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:43.240 always loved that she made a Castro, made Fidel Castro uncomfortable. 244 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.720 Didn't like her, they would all, but her music was awesome. 245 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:47.919 So what did they do? They only ever referred to 246 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.960 her in the country as MSM when they were Miami 247 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:54.360 Sound Machine because her family had escaped and suffered, And 248 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.240 so I always think of that when I hear Gloria happy. Dean. 249 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:00.200 I did not know that. I don't know how I 250 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:00.679 miss that. 251 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:06.679 Hey, that's that's what I'm here for. That's the only 252 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.399 reason to bring out a guest is that they can 253 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.720 tell something. Not the plug books, not the plug movies, 254 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:14.679 not to make campaign speeches. It's to offer details about 255 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:16.240 things like Miami Sound Machine. 256 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.519 I did not know they refuse so in Cuba when 257 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:21.759 they referred to the music, they refused to refer to 258 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:26.399 it as Miami saw machine just MSM huh. 259 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.120 Yep, because they didn't want to talk about Miami, right, 260 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.759 that was a big thorn. The thriving Cuban community in 261 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.759 Miami was a thorn in the side to Castro and 262 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.159 his he would give you, They give you the bright 263 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.519 lights of Miami and the beautiful girls on the beach 264 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.159 and Crockett and tubs. And what did Castro give you? 265 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.240 Either a sentence in prison or a rice cooker. Those 266 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:46.679 are the two extreme. 267 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.440 All right, Well, okay, this rumor, what what the hell? 268 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.279 What a bizarre, bizarre rumor? Really strange. And I think 269 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.480 anyone can write a story and cite a bunch of 270 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.960 the weird things and condemn it and say that it's terrible. 271 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.759 But my goal, as I know yours, is always say 272 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.559 something different. So I can list some of the things 273 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:13.039 that have happened in the past and just criticize it 274 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.120 and wag my finger, But that's not really my job. 275 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:17.679 And so to me, I looked at it from a 276 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:21.440 broader perspective, it's more just the Democrats. They just wish 277 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:23.639 that he would die and they'd be done with them, 278 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:25.399 and they're not going to do the hard work. It's 279 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:26.919 going to take to come back. 280 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.840 Wow. Well, of course this whole thing was exploded when 281 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:35.399 Trump appeared. That it got started because they said he 282 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.519 hadn't appeared for two days, and they off to the races. 283 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.080 They went in their fantasy land. All right, Dean home on. 284 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.240 When we get back, let's get some news of the day. 285 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:44.919 There's plenty of stuff happening out here. I want to 286 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.320 get some of your opinion on and also touch based 287 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:54.480 on including CBS did it again with their editing. It's 288 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.639 just amazing they didn't learn after the sixty minutes debacle. 289 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:01.240 We'll be back Aiame's goldin. It's nearly with you here. 290 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.320 A happy Labor Day, folks, keep it right here. 291 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.679 The Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple 292 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:20.720 Podcast Network. The Rush Hour with James Golden Entertaining and informative. 293 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.240 On the Red Apple Podcast Network. 294 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:28.200 So about the Minnesota shooting, and it brought me right 295 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.000 back to Columbine in nineteen ninety nine when I just 296 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:36.279 could not get it through my head that students in 297 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:41.039 America were shooting each other in schools, and this was 298 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.000 a church inside a Catholic school, and what do you 299 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:51.679 know was a white guy, Republican maga person, what do 300 00:16:51.720 --> 00:17:00.600 you know? White supremacist? Hi, everybody, it's Rosio Donald Star 301 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:06.680 the Flintstones. Listen of a call sort. I know it happens, 302 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:11.039 get run down, you know. Anyway, I know a lot 303 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.359 of you were very upset about the video I made 304 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.000 before I went away. Uh For a few days, I 305 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:19.599 didn't go online and haven't seen them till today. 306 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:20.839 But you are right. 307 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.599 I did not do my due diligence before I made 308 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.640 that emotional statement, and I said things about the shooter 309 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:31.880 that were incorrect. I assumed, like most shooters, they followed 310 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.960 a standard mo O and had standard you know, feelings 311 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:45.279 of you know, uh nra love and kind of gun people. Anyway, 312 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.279 the truth is I messed up, and when you mess up, 313 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.720 you fess up. I'm sorry. This is my apology video, 314 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.440 and I hope it's enough. 315 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:04.960 Isn't enough? Indeed? Well, I'm I mean pays attention anyway. Well, anyway, 316 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:11.519 that's Rosie before and after on this Labor Day. James 317 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.000 Golden is here. Dean carry Onis is with US historyauthor 318 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.359 dot com also New York Sun. You can check out 319 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.720 all his columns there. If you don't get through it 320 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.559 on the Sun, go to Apple News. You can read 321 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.200 his columns there on Apple News so many other places. Uh, Dean, 322 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.519 Let's go through a few things. Typically, Labor Day is 323 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.119 the beginning of the political season in an election, when 324 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.119 it goes in earnest the lead up to the fall elections. 325 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:44.680 This year, two governors races on the table. You've got 326 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:50.200 that race in Virginia and the race in New Jersey. 327 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:53.480 You have any thoughts on either of those the outcome 328 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:54.440 of those races. 329 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.640 Well, I'm surprised, which again I shouldn't be some eve anymore, 330 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:06.079 but that winsome Seers. Who's such an attractive candidate as 331 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.079 far as well as far as everything. But somebody who's 332 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:11.680 done a lot of things. And I missed those kinds 333 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:13.599 of candidates, I guess because I do live in the 334 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:16.039 past and look at history. But they also tend to 335 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.079 turn out better than the people who are just working 336 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:21.440 away in school and in the academic room. And we 337 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:25.079 need to look no further than Joe Biden. Nobody would 338 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:29.160 think that he would have. They kept saying he had experience, experience, experience. Well, 339 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.920 he was only ever in the Senate, and that's sorry. 340 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.000 He read a lot of papers about foreign matters when 341 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.640 he was on the Foreign Services Committee in the Senate. 342 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.279 But kind of like reading about sex and having sex 343 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:44.799 doesn't make you have experience. And I just love that she. 344 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:47.599 I just love that she's a good candidate, and I 345 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.079 don't understand why more people, even in the conservative media, 346 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.839 just seem to have pretty much ignored her. And that's 347 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:56.920 one thing. And of course in New Jersey, what can 348 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.680 we say about Jack Chitarelli again getting a chance to run. 349 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.839 He came so close last time, but it was against 350 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.000 an incumbent. New Jersey people always tend to dislike whoever 351 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.359 our incumbent democrat is, and it's hard to overthrow them. 352 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.839 I'm thinking of going back to the Jim Florio years 353 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.880 and National Republicans ignore the state. They think, well, we're 354 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.599 not going to win it. But in recent years, and 355 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.559 this is something I've written about at the Sun, it's 356 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.920 been trending Republican. We're getting more and more people here 357 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.880 that are saying they want to switch and they want 358 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:31.720 to vote for the other party, that they don't like 359 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:36.519 a one party state, that they're dissatisfied with the ballooning spending. Unfortunately, 360 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:38.599 we had Chris Christy who didn't do anything to build 361 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:41.160 his party, so it's not much of a choice. But 362 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.839 it may be surprising. It's actually it's been shifting for 363 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.160 a while, and I don't have the numbers right in 364 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.680 front of me, but each time President Trump did better, 365 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.519 and I think it goes back to that thing we 366 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:56.759 were talking about a minute ago, about just the reality 367 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.000 and about how they took solace here in this fantasy 368 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:02.279 that Trump was dead and it would solve all their problems. 369 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.799 Their problems go much much deeper than one man than 370 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.559 Donald Trump. They have negative poll numbers. They're losing overall 371 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:14.400 five point i'm sorry, four point five million voters between 372 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.359 twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. That's acclording to L 373 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.680 two data. They check the thirty states that track partisan 374 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.640 voter registration, and in every single one, Democrats have lost ground. 375 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.920 And it's because they're not going out there and doing 376 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.519 that hard work to be persuasive. They think that they 377 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.079 can just motivate people if we really don't like Donald Trump, 378 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.319 and that's certainly possible. There's unlikable things about a lot 379 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:43.920 of people, but being even more unlikable and just thinking 380 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:47.799 that you can insult him out of existence and deny that. 381 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.599 Doug Shoan told me President Clinton's polster in ninety six 382 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.559 who I'm friends with, and he said, we went and 383 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:58.359 we worked. We understood that there's talent with the with 384 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:00.000 the guy like New king Rich and so we worked 385 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.640 with them when we could. We found something. Okay, we 386 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.839 like it, but let's do it a different way. We 387 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.680 like that idea. We think that's a problem, like with crime. 388 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.960 So let's look at it. Let's look at it our way. 389 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.559 These are our solutions, not this obstinatece of just saying 390 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.960 no to everything, denying there's even a problem. Living in 391 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.240 this alternate reality. I think that's a real problem because 392 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.440 they're not working with Trump. They're not recognizing. As Doug 393 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:26.960 said to me, he said, I'm a political guy. I 394 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.119 could see that Trump has talent. I can see that 395 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:31.400 he's willing to go down with these hard hats that 396 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:35.359 are teamsterairs that have probably never cast a single Republican 397 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:38.519 vote out of their family, never mind them going back 398 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.839 for generations to those steel mills that were on strike 399 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.039 back in Grover Cleveland's day. He said, that's a talent, 400 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.960 it's an ability. He's somebody that people find likable, they 401 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.640