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I'm Jon Favra, I'm John loved Tommy Vitre. 36 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.840 Today Show. Todd Blanche is getting confirmed as Attorney General 37 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.079 after killing Trump's January sixth slush fund, But is it 38 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:09.560 really dead. We'll talk about that and whether Blanche's US 39 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:13.039 attorney for DC, Janine Piro, is about to be fired 40 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.759 for telling the truth about the reflecting pool that Trump 41 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.680 still says was vandalized. We'll also cover the disturbing case 42 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.199 of House Republican Max Miller what it means for our 43 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.319 efforts to flip the House and what you can do 44 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:26.479 to help flip the House as well. We got more 45 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:30.520 news about cursed DNC chair Ken Martin a Michigan primary 46 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.719 that's finally ending, and later I talked to Wisconsin gubernatorial 47 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.639 candidate Francesca hung about her momentum in a huge race 48 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.560 that's just seven days from the finish line. But first, 49 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.000 it was another eventful weekend where the Commander in chief 50 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.439 threatened Iran with what he was calling the biggest attack 51 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.919 since World War II, only to once again pull back 52 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:54.159 at the very last moment because of alleged talks about 53 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.680 an alleged deal that no one can confirm. Aroan says 54 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.599 it's bullshit. US officials told CBS no new talks have 55 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.240 been planned, and by Monday afternoon, Trump put to rest 56 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.560 any lingering confusion with his usual clarity. 57 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.960 And this is a fifth time you turn off air 58 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:13.879 strikes against your lonsence evil to negotiot. 59 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.039 What is your message to American people. 60 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.759 Who are wondering what has changed this time? 61 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:18.639 Why should be anything? 62 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:20.159 Well, you don't know. I don't know. 63 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.080 I think we're gonna maybe get something, but I want 64 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.360 to give him every last chance before decapitation. This is 65 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:31.360 the last chance for them to sign a good document. 66 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.000 I'm very proud of the fact that I will give people. 67 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.840 I'll give people a chance. This is a big move around. 68 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.400 Knew it, They knew what was coming. It was going 69 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.759 to come last night, and it would have gone on 70 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:46.360 for a long time and they'd be essentially very little left. 71 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:47.599 There'd be nothing left. 72 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.080 Okay, it seems like he's about to wrap this thing up. 73 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:55.360 Huh, little time before the decapetation. Queen of farts every year. 74 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.360 Why do you think Trump called off plan strikes for 75 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:03.879 the five hundredth time. 76 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.479 I think it was a combination of things. I think 77 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.639 the Saudi's got to him and other Gulf autocrats who 78 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.879 pay him bribes. They do not want to see planes, Yeah, 79 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.599 give them planes, god knows what else. They don't want 80 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:20.199 to see a resumption of full scale combat because for them, 81 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:22.839 that means the oil and gas industry gets all screwed up. 82 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:25.120 They can't get their exports out. And also the Iranians 83 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.360 fire a bunch of missiles and drones at them, so 84 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.639 that sucks if you're sitting in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain 85 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.319 or Kuwait or whatever. I think NBS mom had been 86 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.279 Sawmon in particular, was persuasive. There's also this ongoing issue 87 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.959 about they don't have enough interceptor missiles to defend from 88 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:45.240 all these Iranian ballistic missile responses. I think Trump also 89 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.639 knows it's going to jack up oil and gas prices 90 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.319 pretty close to the midterms and probably not materially impact 91 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:51.759 the situation. You're not going to win the war in 92 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:53.399 a weekend. Remember, I mean, I think you and I 93 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.720 talked about this on Friday. Some of the reports were 94 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.639 like Trump's got the biggest airstrike barrage since World War Two, 95 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.959 plan that'll be done by Monday. It's like, you're not 96 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:03.920 going to win the war. So he's bluffing and he's 97 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.319 trying to see if you can use it his leverage. 98 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.519 The thing is driving me crazy. Just for a quick aside, 99 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.879 you guys, remember the whole Syria redline thing. Mm hmm. 100 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.800 That was a fight about Syria policy kind of. But 101 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.720 the thing everyone in Washington said is presidents don't bluff, right, 102 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.480 You can't threaten to do something and then not implement it. 103 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:23.639 And like Trump has not done that five times, and 104 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.079 all the Republicans who blame the Syria, red line for 105 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:30.639 Putin invading Crimea or everything China does. Are just silent 106 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:31.199 on this now. 107 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.079 Yeah, and at this point, I'm sure that the Iranians 108 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.560 here like the biggest, most devastating attacks since World War Two, 109 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:38.639 and they probably start laughing. 110 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:40.839 They're like, we just beat you in a previous war. 111 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.959 What's also like, what how many times? How many cycles 112 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.120 of this can we go through? We're going to obliterate 113 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.160 your society, We're going to send you back to the 114 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:48.639 Stone Age? 115 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:49.800 Yeah, sure you are, And. 116 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.360 Then it's called off. But by the time the market's 117 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.199 open on Monday, over and over again. The thing that's 118 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.879 scary to me is at some point he's going to 119 00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.800 have to fall through. There's only so many times we 120 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.639 can this cycle, especially because the Iranians are not being 121 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:05.360 cooperative with what Trump wants, which is to pretend there's 122 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:08.720 negotiations because you know, they go along with what I'm saying. 123 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.519 Why why are you being so difficult and not confirming 124 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.560 my ridiculous vacillations in the story I'm telling about how 125 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.360 my threat of terrible violence brought you back to the table. 126 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:20.959 Remember a couple of weeks ago when you said they 127 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.680 had killed off all the hardliners, and now the remaining 128 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:24.839 people were more practical. 129 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:27.560 Did you guys see the Did you guys see the 130 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.319 CNN story with the headline US military asks troops for 131 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.959 creative and unconventional ideas to punish Iran war crimes. 132 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:36.560 Brainstorm. 133 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.639 It's not everybody. We're doing a mood board. Everybody, everybody 134 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.480 into the conference room. We're doing a mood board. 135 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:44.759 Guy's got all bad ideas in a brainstorm. 136 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.639 I mean that that tells you something that maybe maybe 137 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.920 they're sort of out of Clearly they're out of ideas, 138 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.399 they're out of The bluffing is getting trickier to pull off. 139 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.240 Really does feel like a writer's room. 140 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.839 What a warble fucking ubers. So Trump did get much 141 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.800 closer to having a full fledged attorney general after Todd 142 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.199 Blanche finally did what the president has refused to do. 143 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:12.279 He posted a letter showing that he'd formally rescinded the 144 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:17.759 order creating the January sixth Insurrectionist slush Fund, and in 145 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.759 an accompanying press release, DJ said the other big part 146 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:24.480 of the ir S settlement, immunity from investigations into potential 147 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.680 tax fraud for Trump and his family would apply quote 148 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:32.000 only retroactively. Tom Tillis and John Cornyn, the two holdouts, 149 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.519 promptly said that was good enough for them and they 150 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.519 will now vote in favor of his nomination. Trump had 151 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.720 asked about the conditions in the oval on Monday, and 152 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:42.839 he was noncommittal. 153 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:44.639 On Todd Blanche. 154 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:46.839 I didn't look at it. All I know is that 155 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.680 Todd Blanche is great. He's going to do a great job. 156 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.600 Everybody knows it. And I understand there's been a sign off, 157 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.319 but I don't know what they agreed. I think Todd 158 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:01.959 Blanche agreed to we confirm things that he's already said. 159 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.959 And what he said was okay, so. 160 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:08.600 Blanche is getting confirmed. How ironclad do you think Blanche's 161 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.360 rescinded order is? Love it? 162 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.160 So Cornin or Tillis, and it doesn't matter which one? 163 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.319 In some interviews said, look, you know, could could a 164 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.879 future Attorney general rescind the paper? Could Trump rescind it? Sure? 165 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:21.560 But then it'll be up to the American people. And 166 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:25.720 what's so like it? Just I knew this was coming, 167 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:27.639 of course, is what they wanted to do. They've signaled 168 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.360 that they said we want to get to yes, which 169 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.319 Trump could see and so they were going to figure 170 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.320 out some way to get to yes. They had a 171 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.840 chance to vote on an amendment to ban this by law, 172 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.279 and they chose not to. Other Republicans did it, They didn't. 173 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.559 They didn't. And now after Trump has made fools of them, 174 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:49.519 after Trump has you know, injected himself into their primaries 175 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.399 and const him their seats as they're leaving office, the 176 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.480 best that they can muster is the sort of pathetic 177 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.960 display of like a piece of paper that can be rescinded, 178 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.600 like experts and lawyers don't even necessarily believe this paper 179 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:04.559 applies to the settlement because the settlement required signatures of 180 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:08.000 all parties, so it may not even apply today. And 181 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.879 they had an opportunity to vote for something that would 182 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:12.799 have actually banned it in the law, they chose not 183 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:15.440 to because that would have been a victory for their Democrats. 184 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:17.639 And so I don't know what they're telling themselves when 185 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.399 they sort of close their eyes at night, but it 186 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.440 is the most Trump had their fucking number. They were 187 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.159 as weak and craven and pathetic as he thought, and 188 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.519 he has been proven right, and these pieces of paper 189 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:29.960 aren't worth a fucking thing. 190 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.919 Yeah, Trump said the slush fund was a gift Todd, 191 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:37.399 and I'm taking it with me. I don't believe for 192 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.440 a second this is dead. You can move him off 193 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.039 of bad policies, but you can't really move him off 194 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.399 of something that he wants personally, and this is money 195 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.919 in his pocket. If he can avoid higher s audits 196 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.440 forever or have a slush fund, then you can divvy 197 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.200 out for political power. Trump is not remotely embarrassed about 198 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.639 this fund. It is quite clear that he thinks this 199 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.639 is something that he is owed by us, the taxpayers. 200 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.639 So I this I have zero I put zero stock 201 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.320 in this terrible idea being dead. This is this is 202 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.799 Michael Myers. This will keep coming back and coming back 203 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.519 and coming back, and I think he will fight for 204 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:12.840 it until he gets what he wants. The only thing 205 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.639 that might kill it is Democrats winning the House. 206 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.120 Yeah. Our friend sky perrriman lawyer who's been suing the 207 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:23.480 Trump administration for Democracy Forward. She made the point to 208 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.559 The New York Times that you know, if the Justice 209 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:29.399 Department truly intended to end the fund, they would submit 210 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.039 the sworn declaration that the Court has requested on this, 211 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:36.799 which would be more binding than a fingers crossed promise 212 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.559 from Todd Blanche that does not include the signature, as 213 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:41.879 you said, love it if Donald Trump. So I would 214 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:45.440 imagine this goes the way of everything else, like you know, 215 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:49.039 the iced attentions that have now ramped back up. As 216 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.399 soon as the news cycle moves on and Todd Blanche's 217 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:56.240 attorney General, they will quietly start paying out individual January 218 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.440 sixth convicts and other people that they like. And you know, 219 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.639 we'll get some report months from now that, oh, someone 220 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.360 discovered that people are getting payouts from the Trump administration, 221 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.679 and someone will ask him about it, and he'll be like, well, 222 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:09.159 I said it was unfair, but I don't know anything 223 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:10.440 about that, and then that'll be that. 224 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.279 This is also the whole thing is so ridiculous, because 225 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.240 what are we negotiating over here. We'll get to it. 226 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.519 But we have the president threatening to fire prosecutors simply 227 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:23.759 for telling the truth about the prosecution of someone who 228 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.159 didn't deserve to be prosecuted. We have Todd Blanche in 229 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:31.159 front of Congress saying that DJ is not independent. We 230 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.200 have so many reports about the politicization of the Justice 231 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:39.480 Partment or Pambondi, and now Todd Blanche and their final 232 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:44.000 act is to stop what is like the fund is 233 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:47.840 it is so far beyond anything anyone could have ever 234 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.360 seen from a president, a slush fund for fucking insurrectionists. 235 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:52.879 And this is what they're going to pat themselves on 236 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.480 the back about. This is as they have no political 237 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.000 fights left to fight, as Trump has like made enemies 238 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.000 of them. Can imagine the reverse of Trump being like, 239 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:01.960 I'm gonna, you know, like as a senator being like, 240 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:03.960 even though you humiliated me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do 241 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.840 the right thing for your cabinet nomine. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 242 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.720 Good to run on in the midterms, anyone who look, 243 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.480 a lot of these people are gonna vote to confirm 244 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.159 Todd Blanche. And if I'm interested, to see what Susan 245 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.000 Collins and Dan Sullivan and John Houstead do, because if 246 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.080 you voted to confirm Blanche, you've basically voted for the 247 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.840 slush fund, and so any ad about that is completely fair. 248 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:24.200 No, no, no doubt. 249 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.440 So Blanche is in. But Trump's US attorney for the 250 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.679 District of Columbia maybe out on Friday afternoon. Former and 251 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.440 now maybe future Fox News host Jeanine Piro announced in 252 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.279 a court filing that the Justice Department would be dropping 253 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.360 its case against former Olympian David Hearn, who had been 254 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:46.240 facing a felony charge for allegedly vandalizing the reflecting pool. 255 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.080 But Piro and the DOJ now admit, according to the 256 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.120 court filing, that the damages to the pool were the 257 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:57.720 result of a quote hasty and botched installation, not vandalism, 258 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.320 no shit. The Department of Justice went on to accused 259 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.240 the Department of the Interior of knowing it wasn't vandalism 260 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.000 and misleading prosecutors about what really happened. Take that, Doug 261 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.759 Bergram Trump surprise, surprise, is furious. 262 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.600 Pierro about her decision to drop No, Janeine Piro made 263 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:20.720 a mistake. It was vandalism. We have photographs or tapes 264 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.679 like moving cameras, right, We have them where people are 265 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.320 on the sets cutting it with a Now, I'm not 266 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.600 saying I was one hundred percent thrilled with uh the contractor, 267 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.399 But the contractor was rushing. We wanted to get it 268 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.720 open for July fourth, and we got it done. It 269 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.679 looked beautiful, and then they cut it. The judge was 270 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.480 extremely unfriendly to Janine and Frankly, I think she choked, 271 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.480 and I was disappointed with Jeanine Pierrou, really disappointed with 272 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.559 Jannine Pierrou. She she folded like an umbrella. 273 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.639 That was the closest he's come to sounding like he 274 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.639 did in the Celebrity Apprentice, Like it's like the board 275 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.080 room and he's about to fire someone. 276 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:05.200 Yeah, it's like meat loaf. 277 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.759 You didn't make the taco restaurant operate up out of 278 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.399 profit yet over at the bubblers were too loud on 279 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.480 the memorial, Jeanane Pierra, You're fired. 280 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:14.919 That's the best part saying they had to turn off 281 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.279 the reflecting pool bubblers because it would have interfered with 282 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:20.240 the UFC fight like a gurgling fountain. Yeah, would have 283 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:23.399 distracted the rule. A thousand people cheering someone's face getting 284 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.120 bashed in the roar of the pool pump. 285 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.799 Apparently, Pierro and Burghram were seen after that walking into 286 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:32.600 the Oval office, and then Bergram was seen walking out, 287 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.759 but Pierro is still in there. Now. By the time this, 288 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.919 probably by the time we finished recording this, we could 289 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.200 already she could already be done. But uh, so so long, 290 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.200 so long, Jeanine. It sounds like what a fucking mess. 291 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:45.960 This was what a fucking mess. Yeah. 292 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.399 Also, like before people go saying like I clearly like 293 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.039 it seems like this was this was written in anger, 294 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:55.679 like clearly annoyed at the whatever they were getting from 295 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:57.440 the Interior Department. Uh. 296 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.000 But regardless the. 297 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.360 The idea that the Department of Justice, even after doing 298 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.679 the right thing here in between fucking getting a chart 299 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.919 an indictment for this guy and letting him go, like 300 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.320 your entire story was reversed. What kind of evidence were 301 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.559 you basing this on when you brought the charges in 302 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:19.639 the first place. Why did you have to learn so 303 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.399 much after you decided to try to ruin a man's 304 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.080 life that you would eventually decide to drop it. I 305 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:26.679 guess because you thought it wouldn't hold up in court. 306 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:27.960 Yeah, I mean, the only reason they had to come 307 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.879 clean is because if you knowingly submit false evidence in court, 308 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:33.480 you can be charged with perjury and you can go 309 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:35.639 to jail, and you can you be punished by state 310 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.600 bar associations and deal with all of their problems. So 311 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.720 Doug Bergham's just like I'll just lie in the court 312 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.720 of public opinion like, no skin off my ass. But 313 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:45.759 Judge Shanine. It doesn't matter how many chardonnais you have, 314 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:47.559 you cannot lie before the judge. 315 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.159 I mean, there's always a spot on the five for her. 316 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:50.960 Oh yeah, they'll make it the six. 317 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:55.799 I know, this one seems small and silly, and it's 318 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.279 kind of fun because it's you know, Trump's renovations and 319 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.919 it's the reflecting pool and it's so obviously a lie. 320 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.360 But like, this guy was charged with a felony. It's crazy, 321 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:09.399 had to get lawyer, was like facing jail time, and uh, 322 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.600 it was all because of an obvious lie that everyone 323 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.600 knew was an obvious lie. And they all I mean 324 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:16.440 there's all you know, you can look for them anywhere, 325 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.360 these clips all over the place of Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump, 326 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.840 Janine Piero being like it's it's evidence. We have evidence 327 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.000 that we're going to present in court and we know it. 328 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.200 And it was the box cutter and just to lie 329 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.039 the entire time, like one of them, one of the 330 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:32.720 more brazen lies they've ever told. 331 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.360 Yeah, there's one. There's some interview with with where someone's 332 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.120 questioning Jeanine Piro about this and you realize, like she 333 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.080 doesn't totally know the facts. He's like well, did he 334 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:41.480 have a knife. He's like no, no, no, he did 335 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:42.960 it with his hands. It's like, I'm sorry, what are 336 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:43.919 you saying this? 337 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:44.240 This? 338 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.320 This could this sixty seven year old canoeist. He's like, 339 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:51.600 what like swimming through the pools Wolverine. Yeah, it's crazy, right, 340 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:53.639 like crazy to do this. 341 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.559 Yeah, no, this is a it's a good Like, yeah, 342 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.559 I'm with you. This story like didn't seize me when 343 00:16:58.559 --> 00:16:59.919 it came out in the same way the East Win 344 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.799 kind of storied and like, really it wasn't the thing 345 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:04.720 I care the most about. But what I think I've 346 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:07.519 come to realize over time is how much symbols matter 347 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.759 and how much it's made this corruption stories breakthrough. We 348 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.359 can talk about, you know, day trading from the Oval 349 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.359 Office and the amount of money Trump is making, but 350 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.079 like stats and figures are not going to break through 351 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.480 as much as a simple narrative like this, where you 352 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:26.920 have Trump's you know, selfishness and ego leading a innocent 353 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.680 man to be fucking prosecuted or you know, tearing down 354 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:32.960 the East Wing or whatever. These symbols really matter. They 355 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.119 make these stories break through. I think it's like impacted 356 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:35.720 in politically. 357 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:40.119 Also, it's coming on a day when the attorney general 358 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.599 nomination is about to be carried through, Like, there are 359 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:47.200 the two Republicans just decided to give their votes to 360 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.759 like give their im premature to how this Department of 361 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:51.960 Justice is being run in any other era, at any 362 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.160 other time, this would be like you, of course, we 363 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.000 need to bring Todd Blanche before the Senate again to 364 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:59.640 find out what does he think about this? Was he 365 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.160 aware of this prosecution? Does he think Jeane Para was 366 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:02.559 in the wrong? 367 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.920 Does he think now he's gotten out? Because if Trump 368 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.640 fires there he'll be like, absolutely good, the President did 369 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:09.400 the right thing. This was bad. This is not how 370 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.400 we're going to run the Justice Department. Well, le's see 371 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:13.519 what happens now. Of course he wouldn't have said that 372 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:14.839 if Trump didn't fire. 373 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.079 And also, what were you aware of these charges? Do 374 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.559 you believe Doug Bergham misled the Department of Justice? 375 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:21.759 Right? 376 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.440 Like, let's there needs to be some resolution of these 377 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.400 facts because now we have Trump and the interioror department 378 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.519 heads saying that there was still a crime and that 379 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.559 this person should still be prosecuted. 380 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.079 The it's not over either, because David Hern's lawyer has 381 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.519 basically said that I think he told CNN that all 382 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.519 options are on the table, and among those options, according 383 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.480 to CNN, yeah, he's going with the Iran attack, except 384 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.359 they can options are referring the prosecutors involved to a 385 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.319 bar disciplinary authority, but filing lawsuits seeking more of the 386 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.240 grand jury recording documenting the prosecutors present presentation of the 387 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.519 indictment because they did get an indictment asking the judge 388 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:05.240 to dismiss the case so it can't be brought again 389 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:09.680 because Pira's office only dismissed it without prejudice, meaning that 390 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.880 prosecutors wouldn't be barred from attempting to revive the case later. 391 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:14.880 So they need to go further and make sure that 392 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:17.559 they tough never can never bring it again. 393 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.839 Tough case to bring again when you have the prosecutor 394 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.759 saying that that they were misled by the Department of 395 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.000 the Like. 396 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.440 The tough but not unprecedented for this guy. 397 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.319 Sure, but I. 398 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.000 Would say it's like my question would be as like, 399 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.480 are we gonna are we suing these plug where let's 400 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:33.720 so we get this guy some. 401 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.039