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I was able to catch with Kevin gilbrid 20 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:49,560 BYU's tight end coach and I talked some twelve personnel, 21 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,159 one back, two tight end approach. 22 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,759 Speaker 4: It seems like all of the double digit. 23 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,719 Speaker 2: Win teams and BYU football history, we've had many of 24 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:04,280 them coincided seems with like twelve personnel two really good 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,120 tight ends. Now I think Klane has been able to 26 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:09,040 kind of undermine that a little bit. You had, you 27 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:11,200 know a little bit like Neil Powell for a minute, 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,719 and he was kind of a tight end wide receiver. 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,400 He was a necessary tight end, but he wasn't necessarily 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,439 just like a pure wide receiver. You know, you can 31 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:19,799 make some arguments for it, but like traditionally in the 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,799 glory days, you always had two awesome tight ends, and 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,400 you wonder, is this the year? Is this a walker 34 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:29,359 lines Roger Saliopaga twelve personnel type of team that gets 35 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,120 the double digits again in wins. 36 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: So I chatted with him about it. Stay tuned, don't 37 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:34,920 go anywhere. 38 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: As we get to know Kevin gilbrid in his tight 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,920 end room, he also talks about depth and the young 40 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,879 bucks that are on the rise in that room. This 41 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,640 segment's going to be brought to you by Dental Pros 42 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,640 of View Todd Dental prosiviewta dot com. 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But as as 65 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,120 the day's piled on and the install piles on top 66 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:50,280 on top of itself, it could get to be a lot. 67 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,759 Speaker 5: So it's about refining once they learn and then being 68 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,080 able to. 69 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 6: Actually truly teach them how to execute rather than just 70 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:58,879 their job. The guys that have been here in the past, 71 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,759 we have a little bit more familiar familiarity with the offense, 72 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:05,319 have taken steps in the right direction, which we need. 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: So how would you describe your room right now? 74 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,159 Speaker 4: What do you like about it? 75 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,439 Speaker 1: From top to bottom? 76 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: We have some some leadership and some veterans with you know, 77 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:16,639 with Key and Need being here last year and playing 78 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,479 a lot of plays for us, and Noah Moayaki, and 79 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,520 then some younger guys who have stepped up and started 80 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,520 making some plays. 81 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: On offense with Jacob Ny and Will Zundel, which has 82 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,280 been great. 83 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,159 Speaker 6: And then the new guys are they're complete players and 84 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,639 both of them as far as they're physical tools. Again, 85 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,719 we've got to keep getting them ready to you know, 86 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:34,439 play in games. 87 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 5: But they can both be very multiple. 88 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 6: They can be in line blockers, whether it's past protection 89 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:40,800 or run blocking, and then they could stretch the field, 90 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,919 whether it's from inline or flexed out. 91 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:44,599 Speaker 1: How does that lot like? 92 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how does that change maybe the dynamic of 93 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:50,400 play calling for a guy like Karon Roderick and I mean, 94 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:52,560 I know you're you're involved in that install and kind 95 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,719 of projecting how you're gonna utilize the talent, But how 96 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:57,000 does that maybe change the dynamics of play calling. When 97 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:00,840 you have twelve personnel, you know that he can conthy push. 98 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 6: Out there, it can really stress the defense, especially when 99 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,080 they're multiple, meaning they can do many things. If you 100 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:09,639 just put a guy out there who's just an inline guy, 101 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 or a guy out there's just a flex guy, that's 102 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,039 not as hard on defenses. But when they can get 103 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:15,919 into three point stance and come off the ball and 104 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,120 strike somebody and then flex out as a number one 105 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,120 receiver and go down the field or run a slant 106 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:22,160 or whatever the case may be that we ask them 107 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,879 to do and make place, you know, that really stresses 108 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,639 the defense a lot. 109 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: So it can when we put our pieces in place 110 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,800 the right way. 111 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: We can also manipulate what the defense does or understand 112 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,120 what they're trying to do to stop us. 113 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,759 Speaker 5: But all those things are valuable to us. 114 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: YU fans geek out whenever I talk about twelve personnel 115 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:40,319 on my show. 116 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: They think of you know, Chad Lewis. 117 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:43,439 Speaker 4: And he too, La Neeely. 118 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: They think of Johnny Harleyan and Dan Coates, Dennis Pitta 119 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:51,839 and Andrew George. Is you know, I know you want 120 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,680 as many tight ends on the field as possible, right? 121 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:58,160 Is there like a competition of personnel for the coaches 122 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:01,079 too to get their guys on the field. Obviously all 123 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,800 trying to get the best eleven on the field, But 124 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,600 is that kind of a priority for you, Hey, I 125 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:05,959 want my tight ends on the field. 126 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 6: It is a sense of not necessarily competition, like you 127 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,519 want we all want the best eleven players to be 128 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,240 on the field, but you want your guys to be 129 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,519 the eleven best players. 130 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 5: On the field, so at least a couple of them. 131 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: So I feel fortunate with the guys I'm getting to 132 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,600 coach right now. I feel like we're putting ourselves in 133 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,240 a position where we're establishing ourselves that way. 134 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:27,879 Speaker 2: How is it that Walker and Roger can step in 135 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:32,120 so seamlessly with their skill set and already turn heads 136 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:33,759 immediately in spring ball. 137 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: Because they work their butt off to know the place, 138 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:38,519 And that's really what it came down to, Like they 139 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,480 both came in very driven to want to learn the 140 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,560 offense and learn in and out, like not just what 141 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,720 they have, but how to get it done. So again, 142 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:49,639 as these installs keep piling up, it becomes a little 143 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:51,920 bit too much and we got to go back and 144 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,920 refresh and give them the refresher courses. But overall, I mean, 145 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 they've really done a nice job with understanding what to 146 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,279 do and how to do it. 147 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Trevin Osler is still part of that extended tight. 148 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: End room with that right now. 149 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,079 Speaker 6: But that's that's something that you got to, you know, 150 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,800 have the opportunity to utilize at times, especially in the NFL, 151 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 and they use it all the time when they get 152 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 into their bigger packages. 153 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: So it's not off the table. 154 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:17,079 Speaker 2: Certainly as far as what you've kind of discovered about 155 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,040 yourself coachy here you have an illustrious resume NFL college, 156 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:23,720 coming from great lineas with your dad one of the 157 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,439 kind of the legendary coaches in the NFL for a 158 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,879 long time. What have you learned kind of about yourself 159 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:31,639 here at BYU that has maybe stood out to you. 160 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: I don't know anything specific other than if you're not growing, 161 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,000 you're not you're not improving, you're. 162 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,439 Speaker 5: Not getting better. 163 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 6: And that's what I try to do, is I try 164 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,240 to get better with with my craft and how I 165 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,399 you know, whether it's perfecting how I teach or perfecting 166 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:46,920 help try to. 167 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,639 Speaker 5: Recruit a lot. 168 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of a unique thing, unique, you know 169 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,079 because like you haven't always been recruiting right either, So 170 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:55,399 speak a little bit more on that. 171 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:58,399 Speaker 6: It took not a lot, but it took a lot 172 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:01,279 of work, not a lot of time of work to 173 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:02,639 try to get caught up to speed. 174 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: You know how things are done these days recruiting, and you. 175 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 6: Know, compared to back when I did it, everything's different, 176 00:07:07,399 --> 00:07:09,439 you know, So so you got to grow up pretty 177 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:11,639 quick in the in the understanding, whether it be the 178 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 rules or the style of recruiting that. 179 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: We do here at b YU. 180 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,639 Speaker 6: But it's been great, Like I've really enjoyed it, Like 181 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,839 I understand and enjoy the challenges that come with being 182 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:24,439 here at b YU. 183 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: I love it. 184 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,879 Speaker 2: The Air last year showed an elite proficiency in his 185 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:33,040 intermediate passion game, especially when it's in play action for 186 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,800 tight ends. I mean like Walker and Roger and Key 187 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,839 and you mentioned and a lot of these guys that 188 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 have some experience in Noah, that's going to be an 189 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,279 attractive trait, you know, with auction routes and seam sale concepts, 190 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:47,439 and I mean, if you're a tight end, why wouldn't 191 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:48,920 you want an elite Why wouldn't you want to play 192 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,360 for b YU right now? 193 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 6: Well, I think that's a big part of how we 194 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,839 were able to land Walker and Roger was the success 195 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:58,720 that Carson ran had and then he laid the groundwork 196 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:01,839 as far as you know, us finding ways to get 197 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,079 the ball to the tight end, and then the success 198 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,439 he had, you know, will springboard us into the future. 199 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:08,399 Speaker 1: Carson had a great pro day. 200 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,439 Speaker 2: It really stood out one of the more athletic quick efficient. 201 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:15,319 I mean he was he was fast, but very very 202 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,240 proficient in his agility drills. What's stooding as to you 203 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,120 about his performance. 204 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,759 Speaker 5: I didn't watch much of the agility drills themselves. 205 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,639 Speaker 6: I just saw the times and those were excellent, so 206 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,920 I know he did a great job with it. 207 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: I loved how he moved in his in his. 208 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,039 Speaker 6: Workout like he moved incredibly efficient, you know, and that's 209 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,679 that's something that he and I worked on. 210 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:36,279 Speaker 5: But he really worked on a ton through the course 211 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,759 of this last year. Just to see the steady improvement 212 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:41,639 in that area has really been fun to watch. 213 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 6: He was a fun guy to coach, special special young 214 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,919 man for sure. 215 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, very coachable, right, And I always said, like entitlement 216 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:50,360 doesn't really work at VYU, bringing in the right guys 217 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:53,519 with the right skill set, with the right mindset is 218 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,399 pretty critical I think in the Kalani culture. 219 00:08:56,519 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Would you agree? 220 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,399 Speaker 5: I agree wholeheartedly. 221 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 6: That's why it was it was special to get a 222 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,039 guy like Carson because he had that approach to Roger 223 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,039 and Walker have as far as one to hit the 224 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:09,440 ground running and really digest not just what to do 225 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,159 in the offense, but how to do it. And they're 226 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 almost mirror images of him in that regard. 227 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:16,799 Speaker 5: The approach that they have. So it's pretty special to 228 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,320 get Carson. 229 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 6: And now we've got two other pretty special players and 230 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,600 human beings. 231 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 5: So it's been fun. 232 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,039 Speaker 2: What are some of your mantras in your culture that 233 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,399 you liked and still in your tight end meeting rooms 234 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,799 and within your group. 235 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,879 Speaker 6: That it's all about the process, Like, I don't care 236 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:32,759 about the results. 237 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: I don't care if you'd. 238 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 6: Caught a huge pass, if you weren't doing things the 239 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,159 right way, I'm not gonna be happy, and I don't 240 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:42,799 think you should be either, you know. To the contrary 241 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,960 of that is, I don't care if you if you 242 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:46,960 fall down trying to block somebody. 243 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: As long as you're trying to get better. 244 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 6: And you're working the process of the technique that we're 245 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,080 working through, I'm okay with it because the process right 246 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,200 now in the spring. 247 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 5: Does not matter. 248 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 6: All that matters is the result on Saturday, you know, 249 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 in the fall. So that's what we're working towards right now. 250 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,840 When you have that approach, you have a growth mindset. 251 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,879 And so those those are two focused on the process 252 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:08,399 have a growth mindset, and then we're gonna be ready 253 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,559 come fallt mab b u Yu. 254 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,519 Speaker 2: Since the hiring of you and TJ, the run game 255 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,679 has progressed, leaves and bounds right one of the best 256 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:19,559 running teams. 257 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,919 Speaker 1: In the country last year in the Big twelve. 258 00:10:21,639 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: Could you explain maybe the dynamic of a rod you 259 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,559 and TJ as as because it all kind of meshes 260 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,559 obviously Harvey as well with its running backs, how you 261 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,320 guys get on the same page in the run game, 262 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,240 and how the play action game has been able to 263 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,399 be maximized because of it. 264 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:40,519 Speaker 5: I would say that TJ does a great job with the. 265 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,399 Speaker 6: With the run game planning, which I'm not as big 266 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,200 of a of a part of as Harvey is. So 267 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,600 it's Harvey and TJ as far as the game planning itself, 268 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,000 but then it's up to us to implement it and 269 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,480 to get the get the guys to execute. And that's 270 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,080 kind of where I come into play in the run 271 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,240 game and then building things in the past game off 272 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 of it. And that's something that we've improved on and 273 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:04,440 we can continue to improve on, and I think you'll 274 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,840 see that. 275 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: You know, come fall, tight ends want to catch touchdowns, 276 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,679 they want to run routes, they want to get out 277 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,320 in the open, but they have to be in line sometimes. 278 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,559 You mentioned the multiplicity of your tight ends. You know, 279 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,080 it sounds like Walker and Roger and these guys they 280 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,720 can all they can all block. What stands out to 281 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,360 you about their physicality why you believe that they can 282 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,399 be in line guys as well? 283 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,919 Speaker 5: Their toughness They're great. 284 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 6: They've both shown it and it's been It's a limited 285 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240 basis as far as the new guys that I've seen, 286 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,360 because you know it's springball. You know, we're not tackling 287 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,840 all the way to the ground, we're not going live. 288 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:42,000 But initial contact is initial contact, and that's there with 289 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:42,399 those guys. 290 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 5: They don't shy away from it at all, so you 291 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,200 know they have it. 292 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: We just have to protect perfect some of their techniques, 293 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,440 and they're getting there. 294 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: They work at it. 295 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: You mentioned a couple of young guys, Jacob n I, 296 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Will Zendell. We saw Will run down on kickoffs. He's fast, Yes, 297 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:58,159 he's very, very linear, A good athlete out of I 298 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,039 think American four. 299 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Jacob Nike out of Texas. You know, hasn't. 300 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if we've got anyone's really a mantable 301 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,759 to see him. Can't explain your depth if you could. 302 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: Will Zundel is exactly how you explained it. 303 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 6: He is a fast, fast player, and he's big and 304 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,120 strong as well. He's learning the tight end position. He 305 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,399 played more receiver than he did in high school than 306 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,440 he did than he is now. Obviously he's playing tight end, 307 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:25,039 but but. 308 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: He's learning it and learning it well. 309 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,039 Speaker 6: And a big part of that with him was understanding 310 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,600 the timing of the passing game and then understanding how 311 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:33,360 to get his job done in the run game. He's 312 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:36,240 taken He's grown leaps and bounds in the last. 313 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,919 Speaker 5: Year, which is tremendous. So he's headed in the right direction. 314 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: Jacob has been hurt and his knee hasn't quite been 315 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,960 right yet. We finally got him where he's being able 316 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,000 to perform and perform at a. 317 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,759 Speaker 5: Pretty high level. 318 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,159 Speaker 6: We just have to get him more consistent. And again 319 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,080 he was more of a receiver than he was in 320 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:54,279 high school than he was And the tight end, what 321 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:54,600 are you. 322 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: Looking for when you're recruiting tight ends like the freshman 323 00:12:57,159 --> 00:12:59,360 Obviously that the portal tight ends may be a little 324 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:02,039 bit different. What are you looking for in that freshman 325 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 tight end that merits and offering of ty Getchi and 326 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,399 Brock Harris, those were a couple of big offers that 327 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,759 you had that end up signing. 328 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: What are you looking for? 329 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 6: It's really kind of hard to explain, but because I 330 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,039 don't think there's there's one making model for tight ends, 331 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 like and that holds truth in the NFL as well, 332 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:20,600 Like I coached a lot of different body types, a 333 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,720 lot of different skill sets. But how tough are they 334 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:26,320 are they willing to block? I? 335 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,279 Speaker 5: Do they have grit? 336 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 6: And then the other skill sets have to match, meaning 337 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,200 like they have to if they're a little bit a 338 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,080 little underwhelming in the run game blocking, Yep, they better 339 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,039 have some height and be able to go get the football, 340 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,080 and you know when they're catching passes, but it's a 341 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,519 sliding scale and you know in those regards, so if 342 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:47,759 they're not quite as fast or something like that, then 343 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:49,320 they better be able to block their butts off. So 344 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,360 I can't describe one particular thing, but there's as long 345 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,240 as they've got grit, as long as they've got tough 346 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,759 toughness with physical and mental, we can make it work. 347 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,879 Speaker 2: Last thing, defensively, everyone's kind of wondering what the defense 348 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,320 is looking like now that you know there's some changes 349 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,360 on the coaching staff. How would you describe the defense 350 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:09,320 being coached up by k Pop and the crew. 351 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:11,519 Speaker 5: I think it's very comparable to our defense. 352 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,159 Speaker 6: Before they're flying around their competitive athletics, they throw a 353 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:18,519 lot at you schematically, whether it be different pressures or 354 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,879 different coverages. They're doing a good job with some of 355 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,679 their disguises, multiple in their. 356 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: Fronts, so they make it challenging. And that's how coach 357 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Hill had it as well. 358 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Kevi o'brid good, All right, there you go. 359 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,759 Speaker 2: That's Kevin gilbrid, the tight ends coach for BYU football. 360 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,720 A couple of the gems that it got from this, 361 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,120 and it was like kind of on the back end, 362 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,120 I want to start off with, you know what he's 363 00:14:42,159 --> 00:14:46,559 looking for in the tight ends that he is recruiting. 364 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:50,759 So you look at ty Gedgee, you look at Brock Harris, 365 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,759 you look at Walker, Lions, Roger Sally of PAGA. 366 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: They're all kind of built differently. 367 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: Brock Harrisson more like a Dennis Pitto tie big wide 368 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,240 receiver type sixty six, et cetera, and just a. 369 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:04,919 Speaker 4: Refined route run. 370 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,679 Speaker 2: A good athlete, obviously, but just a refined route run, 371 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,600 a great catching radius, super soft, supple hands, just catches 372 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,919 everything in the in that catching radio's great body control. 373 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:18,440 Tyketch you is more of like a springy athletic, just bouncy, 374 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:24,679 high pointing athlete, basketball player, really physical. He's well going 375 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:27,120 to be a good inline blocker, I think, when all 376 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:30,159 of said and done, really really a physical specimen in 377 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:34,200 that regard. Walker is an undersized tight end traditionally six 378 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 three six four two forty five, and by undersize I 379 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,399 mean like from a height standpoint, but really thick and dense. 380 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: And very strong. Obviously a great talent. 381 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:51,039 Speaker 2: Roger Uh, He's built once again like six three sixty four. 382 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 He's kind of my Neil Powell comparison. He's more of 383 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,000 a big wide receiver than he is maybe a tight end, 384 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,559 but he can block too. Like, and so when he's 385 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,519 talking about things that he's looking for, like, yeah, I 386 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:06,159 want X, Y and Z, but like, it doesn't matter 387 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 the height, it doesn't matter the weight. It doesn't to 388 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,200 a degree, I guess it does. But I'm sure he's 389 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,600 got his cutoffs. I'm sure he has his curation process 390 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,960 where he's he's saying, well, you know, snow six to 391 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 one tight ends, right, No, sixth two and a half, 392 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,600 that's maybe his. 393 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: His his threshold. 394 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: But if he got great length from a wingspan or 395 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:26,440 on leg standpoint, that's that can make up for it. 396 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:27,919 Speaker 4: So you just got to go out there and do 397 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 the job. You better be gritty, you better be physical. 398 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: And but he doesn't have a cookie cutter definition of 399 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:36,879 what a tight end looks like, which I think is 400 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,600 really good. I think the the NFL many times can 401 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:46,360 ruin coaches. And you can tell that he comes from 402 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:52,159 a football family. Remember Kevin's dad, Kevin gilbrid senior, he 403 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,799 coached college football, you know, starting in like the seventies 404 00:16:57,679 --> 00:17:01,159 and then made his way to the NFL. 405 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:03,559 Speaker 4: By like nineteen eighty nine, he was. 406 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,519 Speaker 2: Coaching in the NFL with the Houston Oilers, Jacksonville Jaguars, 407 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:10,960 Sango Chargers, Steelers, Bills Giants, who became the head coach 408 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,880 there with the or the offensive coordinator with the New 409 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,079 York Giants, and really good offensive mine, et cetera. But 410 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:23,319 sometimes the NFL can ruin you. You look at height, weight, 411 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 tangibles and things that nature and athleticism and you get 412 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:28,559 you get drunken with it and you're not looking for 413 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,079 the best football player. You can tell that Kevin's looking 414 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,480 for the best football player. So I appreciate that. You 415 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,720 look at who we went out and got. You got 416 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:38,400 KEA Neid out of New Mexico ethan Wood, New Mexico, 417 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,480 New Mexico State and New Mexican University of New Mexico 418 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 both kind of a juco path with those guys, gritty 419 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,160 in line, tight ends physical. So he's looking for certain 420 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,359 skill sets, right, But he's not going to just say, hey, 421 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,240 this is the height and the weight. And a lot 422 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,680 of offensive coaches or defensive coaches will do that too. 423 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,920 They say, I'm not gonna recruit certain individuals because they're 424 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,599 not tall enough, they're not long enough, they may not 425 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,039 be fast enough, whatever it is. I know there's thresholds, 426 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:14,480 but I thought that was interesting that he doesn't cookie 427 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:20,079 cut on the tangibles, the measurables, et cetera. A couple 428 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,559 of other things that that I noticed about the conversation. Man, 429 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,200 he is upbeat, he is positive, he is One of 430 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,839 the things I was concerned about when we lost Steve 431 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Clark was that, you know, it's always it's tough to 432 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:36,200 find the right fits at BYU from personality standpoints sometimes, 433 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,720 and Kevin fits the mold. 434 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: Obviously. 435 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,039 Speaker 2: He had been recruited to b A who's there at 436 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:43,119 b AU for for a year before I believe transferring 437 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,160 as a player. But I just think he's a great 438 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,119 fit personality wise. I think he gets along with the 439 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,119 kids really well. He's he seems like a player's coach 440 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,160 to me. But some great gems there. I know, Ronnie, 441 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:58,799 were you were listening in anything stand out to you 442 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,319 from for that conversation. I know twelve personnel was the 443 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,839 topic as you were in. Roger Sally of pagin Walker lines, 444 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:07,359 they're gonna be on the field. It seems like all day, 445 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,839 every day with some intermittent I mean, he said, I 446 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,839 think he may have said, I love the thirteen personnel. 447 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,799 He probably wants to get Kia need on the on 448 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,759 the grid iron as well. 449 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: Give me some of your takeaways. 450 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest takeaway at the end is 451 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,039 a reminder about the last two tight ends. He mintioned 452 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:25,960 Will Zondale being one of them. These guys play more 453 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,960 receiver in high school and they're converting over It sounds 454 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,400 like you're tight in learning the position, Ben, so you know, 455 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,799 there needs to be some growth and some patients and 456 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 you know, and when you mentioned Will being fast and linear, 457 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,799 I can't remember which game was, but I was looking 458 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:41,279 at it. I was like, man, eighty three just got 459 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:43,519 down the field way you fast. I said, who is that? 460 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,799 And I was next to another reporter and we both 461 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:47,799 looked a rousss like I did not expect. 462 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:49,839 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, wasn't he a receiver? So yeah, 463 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,480 we'll we'll moved over to tight end. Big body. Look, 464 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:54,920 don't want to get matched up with that dude in 465 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,400 the red zone. 466 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 7: And I think the biggest thing is the guys that 467 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,400 he's going to get Ben out of the portal guys 468 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 that they're recruiting, and he said this, you know, are 469 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:05,960 you willing to block? He's not just gonna get you 470 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 if you're flashy, like you gotta put that hand in 471 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,319 the dirt. 472 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,599 Speaker 3: You gotta be able to get physical. 473 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: He talked about, yeah, they're only doing thud contact, but 474 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,799 you got to embrace contact and deliver it. You have 475 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:17,160 to be physical at the point of attack. So, you know, 476 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,799 I thought that was something that was interesting to look. 477 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:20,759 All the tight ends coaches want to but you know 478 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,920 some you know, oh this guy just blocks, but this 479 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,599 guy does. 480 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: Like you have to be willing to be able to 481 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,640 do that. 482 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 7: You saw that with Carson Ryan, and I think the 483 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 reason why you got Walker, why you got Robert, was 484 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,720 you saw what Carson Ryan only did in the in 485 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:36,240 the receiving game, but in the blocking game, run game, 486 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,559 pass blocking game, and that became very attractive Ben, because 487 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:41,799 when you get to the next level, Ben, Look, everybody 488 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:44,720 talks about rob they talk about you know Travis, you know, 489 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,720 as being the greatest tight ends. 490 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: They don't just catch the ball, they also have to block. 491 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,880 You have to do both. 492 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,839 Speaker 7: So I think that was really important to bring up that, 493 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160 so we'll see what you know happens. I would love 494 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,480 to see, you know, a third guy, look, Ben, thirteen 495 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,599 fourteen personnel, keep it going with LJ ANDC on the 496 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,440 back if they're healthy, if that's your one two punch Ben, Look, 497 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,720 I would love nothing more than get you know, over 498 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:08,319 five six hundred yards on the ground, Ben, and you know, 499 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,039 be able to come back into his last year because 500 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:11,920 you know he's been he's been dinged up, but he's 501 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,759 finally fully healthy. I think that really is what contributes 502 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,759 to Bau's success been and not only getting back to 503 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:19,200 the Big two title game, beating a team like Nordre 504 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,839 Dame getting to the college football playoffs. You have the 505 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:24,400 big you have one running back. Now you need the 506 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,200 second guy who's been in and out to be that 507 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:29,119 next guy behind him. With the great offensive line, he 508 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,160 got the two tight ends to do it. So let's see. 509 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,559 And to your point, he is very upbeating, very very 510 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,680 a lot of good energy, very complimentary. So I was 511 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,640 really really impressed with that. Like his whole demeanor and personality, 512 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,519 very personable person So Kevin Gilbright, I see why they 513 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,640 brought him here and has worked out well and to 514 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,839 your last point. You know, Harvey Unger in the run 515 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,279 game and t J Woods phenomenal job, the guys that 516 00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:52,599 they're recruiting, who they're talking to. 517 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: Ben. 518 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,279 Speaker 3: You know, I've pushed this the last two days. 519 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,599 Speaker 7: You know we'll get our obviously, you know more thoughts 520 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 you know throughout Fall camp, but offensive line and the 521 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:03,720 run blocking game seems like, you know, the toughest thing 522 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,680 that they're focused on, like who and who along with 523 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,400 the tight ends and the offensive line are gonna be 524 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,640 blocking for LG. 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But by the way, we got 543 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,960 a good tight end room right Walker, Lions, Rogers, Salley Pogops, 544 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,559 Matthew Frederick coming home from a mission. 545 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,319 Speaker 4: At the East High School. 546 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: Josh Davis, Ethan Wood, Jacob Nye Kean neid Uh Cole Clement, 547 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,279 Noah moayaki. Those are your crew right now. It's it's 548 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:13,440 a Will Zendel as well. Sorry I forgot Will. Should 549 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,880 not forget Will. Will's fast man six five two forty. 550 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,240 He can gallop. He's a big body. He looks like you, 551 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,759 play like Dander linebacker two. By the way, he's got 552 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:21,920 that b