1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,279 Speaker 1: What is up, fellow Cicicos. I am Danpa Valley, a 2 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:13,080 little delirious Danpha Valley coming at you with getting changed, 3 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:15,640 changing wardrobes at least what four to six times per 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,199 day at this point, the certified fantabulous mister Grant Hughes 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,679 rumor has an NBA free agency is happening, so we're 6 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:25,039 gonna be here to talk about it. Mostly everything that 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,719 happened in day one. We will react to anything breaking 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,560 hopefully if it happens. But other than that, Grant before 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,359 we kind of canon ball in and we're gonna hit 10 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:36,799 most teams, maybe every team that we talked about. Will 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:38,439 do a quick rundown at the end of like kind 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,159 of smaller type stuff for you, Cico, the siccoist. 13 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Of Sicicos, truest Sicicos. 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,759 Speaker 1: Right, But first, Grant, howck are you doing? 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,799 Speaker 3: I feel fresh as a daisy because I've been my 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,600 third shirt of the day. It has been a sweaty day, 17 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:56,280 partly because of free agency, partly because of being outside 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,960 and it's one hundred degrees here, so I feel fantastic. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,560 I can't believe we're here again, but I think it's time. 20 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:07,000 I think it's time to discuss NBA Free Agency Day 21 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:07,599 number one. 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: Let's without further ado, let's just let's just dive right 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,920 into this. We're gonna begin with the single biggest move 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,560 that I think has happened so far. I mean, like monetarily, 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,920 like teams keeping key players. Sure, but the Denver Nuggets. 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,439 We're gonna tackle this each side, so like the Brooklyn 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Nets will be next. But from the Denver Nuggets side, 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,239 they traded excuse me, Michael Porter Junior and a twenty 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,719 thirty two first round pick for Cam Johnson. That pick 30 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:37,560 is unprotected of note this was definitely financially motivated. MPJ 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,879 has two years and seventy nine point one million left 32 00:01:39,879 --> 00:01:42,000 on his deal. Cam is at two years and forty 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,840 three million. And then the Denver Nuggets also got Bruce 34 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:47,840 Brown in one year vet's minimum. I know Bruce Brown 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,079 isn't championship Denver Nuggets Bruce Brown, but that's like a 36 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:55,640 nice depth piece to add Grant. I'm really interested before 37 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:58,040 I give my thoughts, which I've already written about, but 38 00:01:58,079 --> 00:01:59,920 I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on this show. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: So I think I I like it. 40 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Just upfront, I think it's interesting to note that in 41 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:09,960 this case it seems like an unprotected first round pick 42 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:13,360 is basically you could frame it as basically the cost 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,680 of seventeen million ish dollars in savings over each of 44 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:19,360 the next two years, which is the rough difference between 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,719 Cam Johnson and mpj's salaries. 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,599 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson is older than MPJ. 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,199 Speaker 3: You could, however, make the case too that he's a 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,960 better player. I think Porter Junior has more of a 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,599 reputation as just I can't leave him gunner, but the 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,400 percentages are close enough at least last year, and and 51 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:41,560 Cam Johnson actually per thirty six has gotten up more threes. 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,719 Speaker 2: Than MPJ has in each of the last two seasons. 53 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: So if it's a specialist year after, I think they're comparable. 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,360 I do think Cam Johnson probably it's hard to say 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,479 this now in the wake of MPJ really gutting it 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,840 through that shoulder injury and you know, defending as well 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,680 as he could and getting in there to rebound. I 58 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:00,479 think you could argue that Cam john might be a 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,560 little more well rounded, can do a little bit more 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,520 with the ball defensively, might be a little better all 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,120 things being equal, I think as we're getting here from 62 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:12,319 Colton in the chat the durability issue, which you normally 63 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,960 associate the problem with MPJ, Johnson has actually played way 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,960 less than MPJ in for that. Yeah, it's so that's it. 65 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: He's never played the equivalent of seventy games. 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,439 Speaker 2: Right, So that's an issue. 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,439 Speaker 3: The cost is just it enables Denver to maybe do more, 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,520 and so it's not just Johnson for MPJ. Obviously the 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,280 pick is in there, so I I like it for Denver, 70 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,919 and I also I very much like Bruce Brown. 71 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I agree he's probably. 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Not Championship Bruce Brown, but you know when he was 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 last Championship Bruce Brown. 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: When he was with Denver. So let's just assume that 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,280 we're going to get the best version of Bruce Brown, 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,360 not a lot of guys that look great with Yokich 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,680 and then leave have circled back to prove whether or 78 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:55,879 not it is just Yokich, like Gary Harris needs to 79 00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:59,240 come back to test that theory. But I like it. 80 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:01,240 I'm curious what you put a fair amount of thought 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,039 into this because you wrote on it. Where are you 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,639 on the on the on the swap? 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,919 Speaker 1: I like that you think I put thought into the 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,080 things that I write, But. 85 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, more than I just did. 86 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I understand it, and I think that it could work out. 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,199 But there's like a real risk here because you're not 88 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,759 getting deeper as a result of this trade. It's just 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,480 Cam Johnson, Michael. But you're saving money, and so I 90 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,680 want to see what that money turns into. Is it 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,720 tax savings for John Josh Cronkey or are you gonna 92 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,279 go and spend it? Because now you have access to 93 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,680 most of the non taxpayer em and like, if you 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,959 figure out a way to dump like Zeke Najy or 95 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Dario shar it's like you can get all the way 96 00:04:40,879 --> 00:04:43,600 and we don't need to get We've looked, we've criticized 97 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,000 the Nuggets for not being aggressive enough to improve around 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,759 na Kola Jokic. So I can't sit here and get 99 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,600 bent out of shape that you gave up that, you know, Jokics. 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,360 That's age thirty six season for Jokic with that UH 101 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:57,000 draft pick that's going out at the same time to 102 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:59,759 send that out and it's really just a one for 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,360 you're not getting any deeper, And I think it's, like 104 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,199 you said, it's justifiable to say that it's an upgrade. 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,199 I would agree that it's probably an upgrade. I mean, 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,959 Cam Johnson just shot fifty eight percent on two thirty 107 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,240 nine percent on threes while in whatever Brooklyn. That's like 108 00:05:14,319 --> 00:05:16,079 we're running out for the latter half of the year, 109 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:18,360 and I know he missed some time. Is it a 110 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,839 big enough upgrade though, to justify the opportunity cost of 111 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 what could have that pick have gotten you, like else, 112 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,839 like down the line or as you attached it to 113 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:30,959 other salary. To me, this skew's just a little too 114 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,000 far towards they really wanted to get off Michael Porter 115 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:37,680 Junior's money. With that being said, that's a very reflexive, 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,519 this very moment take. If they go out and spend 117 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:44,120 money to get someone else in here that's going to 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,199 be a top seven rotation member, that changes the calculus 119 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:49,480 because then you're effectively it's Michael Porter Junior in twenty 120 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:52,199 thirty two for Cam Johnson and player X. And so 121 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,040 this feels like a very I don't think it's a 122 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,279 bad deal for the Nugets. I want to make clear 123 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:57,600 Clam Johnson's gonna be a fantastic fit next to you, 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,839 O Kitsch, but older hasn't play as much. Who knows, 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,360 you know, if he was on a different team last year, 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,319 maybe wanted to play any more games. But I just 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 there is an opportunity cost and a risk profile here. 128 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:11,439 Speaker 3: I would say I agree with sort of the foundational 129 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:15,800 issue here is the savings can't just be savings. They 130 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,319 have to something has to be done with the money 131 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,639 Denver is saving in this deal, because I, like I said, 132 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:24,199 you can make the case that this is lateral or 133 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:28,600 maybe an improvement, but it has to lead to additional 134 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:32,079 depth and like another meaningful player or two coming in 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,959 for it to be a home run. And if that 136 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 look so, it's it's not quite a TBD, because I 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,759 think you could defend it on its own, especially if 138 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,040 you think, well Bruce Brown, I don't know, is like 139 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,519 now they've got two rotation players and they just gave 140 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 up one, so they've increased their depth that way. But 141 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,680 the Brown signing is so small comparatively that it's you know, 142 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,839 it's not like they saved all this money in the 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,560 trade so they could go get Bruce Brown. It has 144 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,720 to be somebody else or a couple of somebody's I 145 00:06:57,759 --> 00:06:59,920 think to really put this over the top for Denver. 146 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,199 If it is, as you said, just savings for ownership. 147 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Then I hate this trade. You can't give up you 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,199 can't give up distant first unprotected or to save the 149 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:08,879 owner money. 150 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: It does seem now like Josh Cronky was like inarguably 151 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:15,079 talking about Michael Porter Junior and his press conference or 152 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:18,000 he was mentioned like we're one catastrophic injury away from 153 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,120 having to trade Nicola jokicch and I just feel like 154 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,639 Michael Porter June, like the offcore comments, he's like did 155 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:26,879 someone take the podcast microphone out of his hands? Like please, 156 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,800 I beg somebody, anybody, But as a basketball player, like 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 seeing him gut out the shoulder injury during these players 158 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:34,879 like that was just like that run me a little 159 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:36,879 bit of the wrong way. But I think this is 160 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:39,319 I think it's largely fine for Demro, but I'm curious 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,680 to see what happens next. Are you ready to go 162 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,160 over to the Brooklyn side of things? 163 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? 164 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to take us through any additional details 165 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,120 here that don't have to do with the trade package? 166 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: Well, as you said, the pick's unprotected, there's the seventeen 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,839 million there coming. 168 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,399 Speaker 2: Basically both years. 169 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: They still have the nets. This maybe the the most 170 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:02,959 interesting aspect of this. They still have the most cap space, 171 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,040 but it is significantly reduced that between seventeen and twenty 172 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,439 five million left under the cap. Part of that also 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,560 is because they re signed Dayaron Sharp for two years 174 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 and twelve they re signed Zier Williams for two years 175 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,319 the twenty six twenty seven season. There is a team 176 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:19,560 option that's also a twelve ish million dollar deal, I 177 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,800 think if I recall correctly, So I'm a look, this 178 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:26,399 is what we kind of wanted them to do with 179 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:28,959 their cap space anyway, is to is to take on 180 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:32,919 money with a pick attached and or be a facilitator 181 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:33,799 and a three team deal. 182 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: So this is kind of what we were asking for. 183 00:08:36,759 --> 00:08:39,799 Speaker 3: It is like it kind of limits them a little bit, right, 184 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:42,440 you can't they were never gonna sign a max guy. 185 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,840 But now that that chunk they had to kind of 186 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:49,240 use as a facilitator is significantly reduced, They're still the 187 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:51,200 main player. You're still coming to Brooklyn if you're trying 188 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,240 to swing a deal and you can't make the money work. 189 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,799 But you know, this is this is a kind of 190 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:58,320 a limiting move in some ways. 191 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: It is, but like the upside on that pick is 192 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,000 insane and Michael Porter, it's good that's not like Michael 193 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,399 Porter Junior is also someone that couldn't you flip for value, 194 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:12,639 if not this season, then next summer as an expiring contract. 195 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see where he writes it 196 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,480 just to say next summer, where when theoretically there's just 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,840 more flexibility around the league what he's viewed as like 198 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,519 value wise, you know, considering you had to give up 199 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,279 an unprotected pick to move him just now, Like it's 200 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,000 gonna be quite a turn about if you're getting draft 201 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,039 capital for him. But that's not out of the realm 202 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,960 of possibility, especially if he puts together another seventy five 203 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,240 was like seventy seven and eighty one games the last 204 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:42,759 couple of years. If he just continues to be durable 205 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:45,240 and shoots it like he has, then I think, you know, 206 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:47,720 he's never going to be Oh that's a hugely positive value, 207 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,279 but you might be able to get something for him. 208 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,399 Alan Davis in the chat says to circle back to 209 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,279 the Nuggets, and Nuggets are reportedly in the mix for 210 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,759 Horford or Yaboos selling. I wouldn't be surprised if there 211 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,559 was more, I mean a minimum sure, but I think 212 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,159 Yabuh or Horford would cost you most of the flexibility 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,279 I would love, I mean, find me a team I 214 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,519 wouldn't love Al Horford on. Yeah, but I very much 215 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,799 disagree with this because Al Horford has to go to 216 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,159 the Warriors or I'm gonna be upset. So what do 217 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:13,480 you think, like him anywhere else? 218 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about the idea of using like 219 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,440 if you're presumably I mean, maybe he signs for something 220 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,879 ridiculously low, but like of using like your best spending 221 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:27,080 tool left on a big when Yokich is your best player, 222 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,360 like Al Horford at least, and I guess Yabu Selly too, 223 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,399 at least those are bigs that, in theory you could 224 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,080 play with Yo Kitch a little bit. Not I wouldn't 225 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,320 want that to be a core line. I mean maybe Horford. 226 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,440 I mean, I'm just Horford pilled. Anybody knows this at 227 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:40,720 this point. 228 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, same. 229 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: I think, like, well, there's kind of two ways to 230 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,639 come at it, and they're sort of butting up against 231 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,000 each other. One is like, well, it's stupid to spend 232 00:10:49,039 --> 00:10:51,480 resources on someone who in the games that matter, like 233 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Yokic is gonna play forty three minutes or whatever it is, 234 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:56,480 or more if he has to so, and and the 235 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,600 games that matter are the ones the Nuggets are trying 236 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,240 to win and should care about. So like allocation of 237 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,600 resource wise, like, I don't know if I love it, 238 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,039 But then there's the fact that like Denver has worn 239 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,080 down in multiple seasons now, and Aaron Gordon can't just 240 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,799 be asked to play backup center all the time, so 241 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,200 you do need a body there. 242 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: I just it's tough. I like. So that's all to say. 243 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: I would understand it if the Nuggets went that route 244 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,399 and spent resources on a backup big. It's just you'd 245 00:11:25,399 --> 00:11:28,120 hate to see Al Horford play seven minutes in a 246 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:30,919 postseason game because you're just playing Yokichen Gordon until they 247 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:31,440 fall apart. 248 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: I find that I'm liking this deal more for the 249 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:36,679 Nets than I think consensus, and like it a little 250 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,080 bit less than for the Nuggets. Like I maybe I 251 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,799 over romanticize the upside on those picks that far out, 252 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:44,360 but an unprotected pick seven drafts away, and I am 253 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,200 kind of interested. Over the past three seasons, Michael Porter 254 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,919 Junior has shot sub thirty two percent on threes with 255 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,559 Nicole Yokitch off before. But I am still kind of 256 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,879 seeing like I still want to see what he's like 257 00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:59,840 in a more featured role, which presumably he'll have because 258 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,879 the best passer around the nets right now, Grant as 259 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,399 we're recording this is yaeg Or Demon. I would argue, right, so, 260 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,039 like Michael Porter Junior is gonna have to do some 261 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,200 more on ballwork, and I'm just kind of curious to see. 262 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,559 Like in Denver, we saw it like to some extent, 263 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,240 it didn't always end well some of the jumpers he 264 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,360 would take, but this is different. Jordani Fernandez, head coach. 265 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,399 I'm just I'm still curious to see it. But I 266 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,559 like the upside of that pick, and it does sort 267 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,759 of seem like, you know, the way that the Colin 268 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,960 Sexton and we'll get to that, like going to Charlotte 269 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,159 and then the Jazz just buying out Jordan Clarkson. Is 270 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,399 the salary dumping market not necessarily as lucrative as you 271 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:35,360 would expect when they are only how many teams are 272 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,120 looking to either slash money to get out like what 273 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:40,399 Boston was doing and they had players where they could 274 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:44,759 get compensation for them basically, or the Suns like you 275 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:46,279 just you don't have a lot of teams in those 276 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,039 like desperate situations, and Denver isn't desperate. I'm still curious 277 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,759 to see whether this was a money saving move or 278 00:12:51,799 --> 00:12:54,080 just to open up the mle. But I think to 279 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,320 get a twenty thirty two unprotected pick on a team 280 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,440 whose timeline is very much like the next two to 281 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:02,799 three years, and when Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon are 282 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,279 like getting up there and they have a lot of 283 00:13:04,279 --> 00:13:07,320 miles on their treads. Oh yeah, I like this deal 284 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,039 for Brooklyn. 285 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:10,879 Speaker 3: I like it fine too. I mean the upside's undeniable. 286 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:13,519 It's just it's again, it's so far out and just 287 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:14,399 who knows. 288 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: The And now, by the way, the Kevin Durant trade 289 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,279 tree as disappointed, not Mansun's fan. The comments that's still 290 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:22,200 waiting for the crazy loved me some Cam Johnson and 291 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Katie got traded. So you look at a KAD trade tree. Now, 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,480 how many what have they turned him into? Like a 293 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:30,679 dozen first round picks when that's insane. 294 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:34,399 Speaker 2: I think they're they're ahead on the picks. That seems fair. 295 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it like again, I'd be curious to know 296 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,120 how many other offers were out there that could have 297 00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:45,759 gotten could have gotten the nets an unprotected pick there. 298 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:47,559 This may have just you know, this may have been 299 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,240 the best possible thing they could have done. 300 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:50,639 Speaker 2: We'll have to see. 301 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,039 Speaker 1: We move on to I don't even know the order 302 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:55,279 at this point of totally yeah, the Rockets just like 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,879 flexing embarrassment of Rich's muscles. Quite frankly, they get doing 304 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,279 Finny Smith four years, fifty three million, that's most of 305 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,759 the non tax pay m Lee. The Rockets are just 306 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:07,720 so in their bag that they signed Clint Capella for 307 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:10,039 three years and twenty one point five million without legally 308 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,639 being able to do so. That's going to be a 309 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,799 sign and trade with the Hawks. We have no details 310 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,600 yet as we're recording this on what those details are 311 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,000 going to be. They got the Jabari Smith junior extension 312 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:22,159 five years and one hundred and twenty two million. We 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,320 that'll kick in in twenty six, twenty seven. That's an 314 00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:28,639 incredible deal. Like I know, he hasn't done much there 315 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,840 because they're so deep, but I think bar Smith could 316 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:33,679 be an All Star one day, and so to get him, 317 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:36,720 I'm like that far below the Max Grant. He was 318 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 never gonna get the Max upsurd. And then they brought 319 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,519 back Jeff Green, Jay Schantate and Aaron Holliday for one 320 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,679 year veteran minimums, and of course we know they already 321 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,360 traded Jaalen Green, Dylan Brooks and the number ten pick 322 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:50,960 which turned into Malawatch for what's his name? Cam? Who 323 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,000 they get grant. 324 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: Some Kevin guy Willis. 325 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think Kevin Kevin Kevin Willis. What 326 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:02,759 are you thinking about what the Rockets are doing? Right? Yeah? 327 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: So the Capella one was I did a I did 328 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,320 a double double take on the Capella one because I 329 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 just like, well, they got Steven Adams back, uh he 330 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:15,360 extended and you've you've got still got obviously Alprin Shangoon 331 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:16,799 is like somehow forgotten. 332 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:20,919 Speaker 2: Uh so what's the theory of Capella? Like what? I 333 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,120 I guess. 334 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: You're banking on Adams missing time you want another conventional 335 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:28,240 big like I I was. I was surprised by the 336 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:28,879 Capella move. 337 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:29,759 Speaker 2: The money's fine. 338 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're seven million a year. I I like, 339 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,200 that's a pretty pretty solid value for a guy who, 340 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:40,120 you know, may or may not be like a legit 341 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,000 starting caliber center anymore, but he's an insurance guy. I'm 342 00:15:44,039 --> 00:15:48,320 just I just never in my in my like you know, 343 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:52,080 thinking about what the Rockets needed ever landed on Capella. 344 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Do you like, what did you bump on that too? 345 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,919 Or is it just like sure they need another big Yeah? 346 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:58,399 Speaker 1: I kind of felt they needed because how were you 347 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,519 supposed to play five centers at once if you only 348 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:02,360 if you have viewer than five centers on the roster. 349 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they worked, double big, Yeah, double big work. So 350 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:08,840 I want maybe three? Uh No, I don't know. It's fine, 351 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:11,879 the money's not gonna kill you. But I would imagine too, 352 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,320 there's gonna be maybe a team option the Rockets like those, 353 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,039 or partial guarantee or something once the rest people. 354 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Come out because sign and trades only need to have 355 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:21,600 one guaranteed year on it. 356 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:24,639 Speaker 2: It could be a Johndale situation, right, like everything is 357 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:25,320 not guaranteed. 358 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:28,159 Speaker 1: So that was that was a little bit surprising. But yeah, 359 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:31,200 like why don't you just play Clint Cappella, Jabbari Smith Junior, 360 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Steven Adams, Alpa and Shangoun all at once at this point? 361 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Then who's your other big We'll call it Am and Thomson, 362 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,159 Atari Easton and just. 363 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Kevin Durant. Everybody's six' ten or. 364 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,639 Speaker 1: Taller, interesting what CAN i give you my theory on the, 365 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:46,279 dory AND i already gave you this when we were 366 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:47,080 doing The Bleacher report. 367 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: SHOW i will find a way to PRETEND i haven't heard. 368 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: IT i find a way to bring every Single rockets 369 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,080 transaction back To Read. Shepherd and so that's What i'm 370 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,159 gonna do. Here Dorian Finney smith does feel like an 371 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:00,279 embarrassment Of richard's, type signing to, Me, yes you Lost Owen, 372 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,039 brooks but you Have Aman, thompson you Have Tarry, easton 373 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,200 you Have Cam whitmore that like he can do things 374 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,440 not as good as a. DEFENDER i might want to 375 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,119 make that, clear but like this just makes me believe 376 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,799 because they could still use another ball handler or, PASSER 377 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,680 i think they should unleast Read, shepherd and right, now 378 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,440 like that's their only, option right is Because Kevin durant 379 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,000 is just he can still do so many, things but 380 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,400 like running your entire offense is not what he should be. 381 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,279 Doing and SO i take this as a sign that 382 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:33,119 The Read shepherd experience is gonna be progressively higher volume next. 383 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Season and you know, What grant The rocket's gonna a 384 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,640 plus plus plus for. 385 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: That for, ME i was gonna ask, you are you 386 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,000 here for it at, all BECAUSE i kind of think 387 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,440 you might BE. 388 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I might move To houston for. It i'm there for. 389 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:44,680 It i'm not just saying you're about to be. THERE 390 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,119 i love. 391 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: It, yeah you're gonna be on on the ground for. 392 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: It uh, YEAH i think that's a fair assessment of, 393 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,160 it and, like, look it should. 394 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,319 Speaker 2: Be he was a super high lottery pick. 395 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,279 Speaker 3: That came with this crazy statistical pedigree and then just didn't. 396 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:02,559 Play SO i, yeah you almost independent of anything, else 397 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,240 you kind of gotta find out what's there because The, 398 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:08,759 rockets just Like Jabari smith just signed his, extension there's 399 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:10,519 gonna be plenty more of. Those come and Read shepherd 400 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:13,039 before you know it'll be. Eligible so you got you 401 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:15,680 gotta get some do some fact, finding get some information. 402 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:19,480 There Finny smith here though maybe maybe it's we'll touch 403 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:21,279 on this more so with The, LAKERS i think when 404 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:24,720 we get to. Them but this was surprising to me 405 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,559 because for, him this is And i'm gonna regurgitate WHAT 406 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:32,200 i said earlier on our br, stream like doesn't this 407 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,759 feel like he decided that The rockets were just the 408 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:38,359 better win now option because The lakers have way more 409 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,480 minutes to give him and could have done similar. 410 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:44,759 Speaker 1: MONEY I i view it more as they weren't willing 411 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,680 to do similar, money which is what we'll get into with, 412 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,759 them is okay're really prioritizing keeping their books clean because 413 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:51,799 you could have paid him more than. THAT i expected 414 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,319 him to opt, in like for the fifteen million or 415 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:56,279 whatever is an extent off that, number and now he 416 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,119 ends up signing for less than like the non tax 417 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,119 payer mid level per. Year so, yeah he locked in 418 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,799 more long term. Security and he is what was he 419 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,519 thirty one, thirty so he's like in his. Thirties but, 420 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:10,799 YEAH i it's this just surprised me BECAUSE i kind 421 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:12,920 of thought if The rockets were gonna do, anything it'd 422 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,359 either be maybe another trade or just be, extensions or 423 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,799 maybe they would Sign like would they just come in 424 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:20,039 and pick up one of these guards like that could 425 00:19:20,079 --> 00:19:21,680 handle the, ball run the offense for a little. BIT 426 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,400 i did not. See, no you know, what we don't 427 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,640 have like enough perimeter defense on this, team like we 428 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,680 got we we have to go get. MORE i mean 429 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,480 they have sufficiently insulated Out, arnhengun who got better, defensively 430 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,240 but then like they. Don't he could do, nothing and 431 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,039 they're probably still gonna have a top five defense when 432 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:38,559 he's on the like just just insane their. Shape but 433 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:40,440 how do you feel about the offense? Overall now? 434 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,279 Speaker 2: THOUGH i mean it just you. 435 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: You so you Remove Dylan, brooks you Remove Jalen, green 436 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,279 you swap In Kevin, durant the offense is just better. 437 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,279 PERIOD i would assume. 438 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: Too that, yes, hot Take Finney SMITH i think will 439 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,880 help a little. 440 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: BIT i, mean, yeah he's got more offensive, JUICE i 441 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 guess in a half court, setting particularly than Like easton. 442 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:08,880 DOES i think, really if you're looking for real offensive 443 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,319 growth and independent of The durant, deal, organic it's coming 444 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:14,319 From Cam, whitmore and it's coming From Reed, shephard it 445 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,400 might be coming From Jabari. 446 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: Smith so, yeah we're. 447 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: Supposed to get minutes on this team now With Dorrian 448 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,440 Phinney smith, here. 449 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be. 450 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,839 Speaker 3: TOUGH i mean he may be a trade. Candidate, Look 451 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,160 Finney smith at that number is a great trade. Candidate 452 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,640 every good team should Want Finney smith on that. Contract 453 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,000 so like The rockets just, happened like he's a great trade. 454 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: Asset now if nothing, Else. 455 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: If whitmore proves to be so good that you can't keep, 456 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,839 him off the floor And smith on that. 457 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: New, deal you have to play. 458 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,279 Speaker 3: Him, well all, right we can Trade Finney smith for 459 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,319 positive value. 460 00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:43,319 Speaker 1: Like no. 461 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,599 Speaker 2: Problem. 462 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,839 Speaker 1: Uh and, finally do you think Like Jabari smith willant 463 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,079 Like Tari easton is also extension? Eligible do you think 464 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,440 he gets significantly less than five? Years and let's just, 465 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,960 say like an average of what does this end up 466 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,759 being like twenty five million a? Year close to? IT 467 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:00,640 i guess because he's gonna. Play he's always been a 468 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,920 lower minute guy than Your Barr smith junior for the most. 469 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,920 Part but now The rockets have a trillion? Bigs is that? 470 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:07,720 So what would you do you? Think? ONE i think 471 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,759 he'll get an extension the way The rockets have handled their. 472 00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:13,240 Business what do you like If Barr smith was almost 473 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,240 twenty five million a, year do you think he's gonna crack? 474 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480 TWENTY i don't think. SO i. 475 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,519 Speaker 3: Wonder i'm not as certain that he's going to get an. 476 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:25,680 EXTENSION i just you can't do it for. Everybody AND 477 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:29,720 i Think, ethan while he has like very clear positive 478 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,880 ways to positively impact the, GAME i just don't know 479 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,000 if offensively he's at a level where you need him 480 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:38,440 to be to just go twenty million a. YEAR i, think, 481 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:41,000 like you, know, again twenty million isn't what he used to, 482 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:43,559 be BUT i would either hold off or see if 483 00:21:43,599 --> 00:21:47,119 he's willing to take fifteen sixteen something like that as 484 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,599 a starting. 485 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: Salary we are going to talk about The lakers, Now, 486 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Grant so in addition to LOSING, dfs you want to 487 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,119 take us through what else they got going? 488 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: On? 489 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, big, Right, no nothing? 490 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: Big Just Lebron james opting in for the first time 491 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:02,839 his entire, career in his entire, career and look. 492 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:04,039 Speaker 2: Like, that that's one to. 493 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: Unpack we Had dave mcmanhamon reporting earlier this afternoon that you, 494 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,119 know look that essentially, No james hasn't asked for a. 495 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,799 Trade there's been no discussion about. 496 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:16,279 Speaker 2: That the fact is. 497 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: This is sort of the way for. Him opting in 498 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:22,039 is kind of the way to if you wanted to 499 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,240 get yourself, traded that's the step, one as opposed to 500 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:28,519 doing another one plus one or some of the other. 501 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: Options that may have been. 502 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: There to, me the question, is was this A lebron 503 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,599 decision to pick it up or was it A lakers 504 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920 broadcasting to him that, hey maybe another deal is not really. 505 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,559 There for you if you opt, out certainly an extension 506 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:43,799 may not be. There that kind of. Stuff so this 507 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160 is kind of the core question for The. Lakers some 508 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960 of the other, MOVES i, mean Signing Jake laavia for 509 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,440 two years and twelve million IS i kind of like that, 510 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:53,880 Signing BUT i don't know if that gives us any 511 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,359 information on what you mentioned earlier related To Finny smith, 512 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,759 leaving which is to, say are The lakers just kind 513 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,799 of not gap yearing it but maybe looking more towards 514 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:09,000 next season and rhorianing Around, Luca, like, yeah Maybe reorian 515 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,599 Around luca no matter, what because he's clearly the new. 516 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,640 Cornerstone BUT i think cora off season issue here is 517 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,000 are Is lebron the guy that's not sure about The 518 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:22,160 lakers or The lakers not sure About? Lebron and some 519 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,559 of The Finney smith, one as you pointed, out kind 520 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,279 of signals it might be that The lakers are not 521 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:29,920 sure about veteran long, term big money guys. 522 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,319 Speaker 1: Anymore, Right that's my read on it. COMPLETELY i like 523 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,640 Lit ravia. SIGNING i felt bad For kings. Fans it 524 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,559 was really. FUNNY A kings FAN i think his name Was, 525 00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:43,480 Fred like WHEN i posted about it, said it's so 526 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,759 sad That kings fans should be gutted That Jake laravia Less, 527 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,799 sacramento but that he's become a punchline because they Lost 528 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,240 Dorrin Phinney smith just to sign. Him it's like that's 529 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,559 the bar mat AND i feel For kings. Fans he 530 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,599 is gonna do a lot of the same stuff, defensively 531 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,599 maybe with even more positional flexibility Than Dorren Phinney smith 532 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:01,079 at this. Job i'm SURE i don't know If i'm 533 00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:03,799 gonna trust him offensively as. MUCH i, wouldn't BUT i 534 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,319 think that this is just they're on this long term 535 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000 plan with a short term like cap. Sheet AND i 536 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:13,039 will Say i'd be curious to know what their plans 537 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:14,920 are in twenty twenty six Because i'm gonna give you 538 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,119 a list of what could be the best free. Agents 539 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,680 the best one Is Luka, DAGs who they already have 540 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,720 this player Option Pawa. Bankaro he's gonna get an extension From. 541 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:25,880 Orlando it's probably we haven't heard about it already quite, 542 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,680 Frankly Jaylen williams Of Oklahoma, city would you guess that 543 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,119 he signs an extension not going? Anywhere Daron, FOX i 544 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720 would guess he gets an. Extension Chet holmgren not going. 545 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:41,440 Anywhere Kevin, DURANT i would guess that he probably signs an. 546 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,759 Extension Trey young is a player option we're gonna. Get, 547 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,599 LOOK i got two Teams i'm prepared to say some 548 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,799 pretty incendiary stuff, about and The hawks are one of. 549 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,319 Them he was out there Recruiting lukenard And Nikkeil Alexander, 550 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,079 walker So i'd be, like he might get. Extended but, 551 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,960 Okay Trey young And, luca you're not gonna pair. It 552 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,440 they were traded for one of they're not gonna be 553 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:04,880 paired together after. That it's, like, Oh, Lebron Damian, Lillard Zach, 554 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:12,200 Levine James, Horden Mikal, Bridges Norman, Powell Christops porzingi's grip stop, Me. 555 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,039 Speaker 2: Nicole All i'm hearing At Austin reeves. 556 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: Again All i'm hearing is that that we're gonna be 557 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:21,079 here a year from, now or let's say eleven months from. 558 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,279 Speaker 1: Now. 559 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: Going, man there's just nobody in this twenty six free 560 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,480 agent class member when everybody thought that free agency. 561 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,039 Speaker 2: Was coming, Back like that's, bleak. 562 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: MAN I, LOOK i don't know what to make of 563 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,680 let's just, Again i'll just recap. It lebron ops in so, 564 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,440 like was there a deal on the table from The 565 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,559 lakers that he didn't want because he thinks there's a 566 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:49,000 better contender out? There or Was LIKE i JUST i don't. 567 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,440 KNOW i think the fram this way, now what you're talking, 568 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359 about it kind of makes the the gap year thing 569 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:58,880 seem stupid because who's out there that you're waiting, For, 570 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,200 like don't you have to go? 571 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:00,839 Speaker 2: For are you. 572 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: Gonna wind up with two better players than age year 573 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,480 twenty Three lebron And? Luca but like next, summer well 574 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Like luca re upped and whoever? Else it doesn't sound. 575 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,319 Speaker 1: Like it can Can NOW i go into my what 576 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,599 should be the conspiracy theory of gap years THAT i 577 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:19,799 could play, out or what they should. Do they should 578 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,559 Trade lebron to The Phoenix suns For Bradley beal so 579 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,559 to no trade. Clause, guys you Have bradley be on 580 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,799 your books for two more. Years then in twenty twenty, 581 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,519 seven as right, now lucas one Of luca's really good 582 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:33,759 friends in THE, Nba Nicole jokic gonna be a free. 583 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,319 Agent maybe bet on that. Class bet on free agency 584 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000 coming back around then The sons could maybe if they 585 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,880 can get under the second, apron can you get mallawatch 586 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,759 out of? Them you still need a big on this. 587 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,319 Team that's like you have other like teams that you 588 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,720 could talk. To But i'm not against The lakers planning 589 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,880 for the future or having this Like i'm kind of 590 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640 against a gap year because you said, This So i'm, 591 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,759 Cannibal i'm stealing what you. Said there's no guarantee That 592 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,799 luca's next five years are better than the previous five 593 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,720 because of how fucking good those previous fives maybe with 594 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,640 the exception of this past, season, were SO i GUESS 595 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,039 i just don't. Understand they could be waiting for the next. 596 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,559 Trade but now you're really kind of banking On lakers 597 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:16,200 exceptionalism because you're not gonna have a ton Of you're 598 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,480 never gonna have the best package in a trade for a. 599 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:21,519 Star and as we just, saw you Got Luka doncts 600 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:23,079 by doing This or is that what you're waiting? For 601 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,839 is it's not the free, agent it's who's the next? 602 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,839 Star like, honestly like the way out there name that'd 603 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,200 be like they only want to go to The. Lakers 604 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,960 they have the leverage to make it, Happen, like is 605 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,200 it Maybe? YOKIC i feel like it's more Likely luca 606 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:35,680 leaves to go To denver than vice. 607 00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,799 Speaker 3: Versa quite, frank, Right jogic seems like the last guy that's, 608 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:40,519 like let me get to the big. Market not that 609 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:41,920 that you, know you, know there would be appeal in 610 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,680 playing With, Luca BUT i, Look i'll just jump ahead 611 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,119 a little, bit like Brook lopez went to The clippers 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,559 for a number of The lakers could have, matched, right 613 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,319 LIKE i, guess and, look As tai notes in the, 614 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,799 chat Like DeAndre ayton's still out, there it seems like 615 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,559 that's a decent chance that will be the guy they 616 00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,839 end up. 617 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: With BUT i don't even. 618 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:02,759 Speaker 1: Know. Now do you know what would have been the funniest thing, 619 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,680 ever is if The brooklyn nuts had just claimed. Him just. 620 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,079 Speaker 2: The use of cap. 621 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: Space, yeah, no it's it's uh if we're not doing 622 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,640 winners and, losers but The lakers. 623 00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: Are not coming out of this looking so. HOT i 624 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,839 would say that it kind of Makes. 625 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Nico harrison look look worse for losing that negotiation. 626 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,759 Speaker 2: Somehow, yeah right. 627 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: Too, look the last Thing i'd, SAY i take your 628 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,440 point that you, know maybe there's a twenty twenty seven 629 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920 scenario where there is like A luca, uh there is 630 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,279 A jokic team up. Situation i'm not real comfortable betting 631 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,279 on like or like the heat of kind of falling 632 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,599 into this, Too like they're really targeting this free agent, 633 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,680 offseason right. 634 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:50,319 Speaker 2: Like but like they just dry. 635 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,839 Speaker 3: Up it keeps happening over and over where we think 636 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,799 there's gonna be this this, uh you, know this treasure 637 00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:58,680 trove of free agents out, there and you're really gonna 638 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,920 want cap space for this one some. 639 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: And like how often has it worked? 640 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,599 Speaker 3: Out was the last one when The knicks saved all 641 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400 their money FOR kd And kyrie and got, Neither like 642 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,359 he's even that isn't a fool proof. 643 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,319 Speaker 1: Plan it was The nets kind of doing the same. 644 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:13,119 Thing it was like they, say, yeah they just came. Out, 645 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:18,039 yeah so, yeah that's a good. POINT i guess we 646 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:19,440 just have to wait and. See maybe it's a. Sto 647 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720 but it's like they're just NOT i keep coming back 648 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,000 to the. Package it's how do you Get? Yannis how 649 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:26,440 do you even WHAT i Have bam wants out Of? 650 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,279 MIAMI i just, like how are you actively getting The 651 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:33,519 Anthony davis trade For luca was just such a unique. Circumstance, so, 652 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,960 yeah there's a lot of offseason, left But i'm very 653 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400 confused by what The lakers are doing. Here i'm not gonna. 654 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,319 LIE i have no idea where we're going. Next. Grant 655 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:44,359 oh but it's Too. Atlanta oh you love? It? OH 656 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,079 i love. It so they're adding To Keil Alexander walker 657 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 on a four, year sixty two million dollar deal that's 658 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400 coming via sign and. Trade it's costing a twenty twenty 659 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,720 seven second and. Cash and they're Signing lukenard for one 660 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,359 year eleven million. Dollars not that's coming out of the 661 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,920 non tax. Mle they all Acquired Christaps, Porzingis and they 662 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,319 are Losing Karis lavert To detroit for two years and 663 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,640 twenty nine. Million oh my, god CAN i just tell 664 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,359 you That i'm in love with The hawks offseason and 665 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,720 the fact that they like use The Dejonte murray trade, 666 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,839 exception like that's how they're Getting Nikile Alexander, Walker like 667 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,960 holy holy, fuck like kudos To like why not why 668 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,599 was honesty not running this front office the entire? Time 669 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,119 and why were they ever looking for someone to come 670 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,000 out over the top of. Him if this is what 671 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,920 they're doing behind the, scenes this team is like they 672 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,759 got some shooting Around Trey. Young the ball handling could 673 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,319 be a little, light but like you do Have Jalen 674 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160 johnson can do, That, Nikil Alexander, walker you Have Dyson. 675 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,720 Daniels maybe you're Letting Zachary resische explore more on that. 676 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,519 End this team is LIKE i don't GRANT i, mean 677 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:47,480 this is just in the, moment like prisoner of the 678 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,759 moment type, Shit BUT i feel like they're gonna be 679 00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:51,559 a top four team in The Eastern conference next. 680 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: Season it's not out of the. 681 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: QUESTION i JUST i, think like we go back and we've, 682 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720 talked we talk a lot about like do you do 683 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,799 you really want the The Tias jones type as your 684 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:02,319 backup point? 685 00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:03,119 Speaker 2: Guard could you. 686 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,319 Speaker 3: Get away with, like, well we've got two or three 687 00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:09,000 guys that can kind of share the playmaking, load and 688 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,960 like is that? Enough you, know it depends on the, 689 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,200 SITUATION i, Guess but in this, case Like Alexander, WALKER 690 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,720 i don't love him running second, units but, man he's 691 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,680 he really can. Dribble he can't create, shots like he's 692 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,319 pretty good. 693 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,119 Speaker 2: At that same thing With. 694 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: Canard canard is known for being one of the best 695 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,079 three point shooters like of his. Era but there's enough 696 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,359 like pick and roll zip and like he's a good 697 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,160 passer so and Like Alexander walker's defense Offsets canard's like 698 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,119 those two just as a second unit backcourt that's nails. 699 00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:40,759 Man like those guys compliment each other really. WELL i 700 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,440 think you do get enough, playmaking especially if maybe you 701 00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,319 leave Like reese sche out there Or Jalen johnson especially 702 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480 out There Dyson, Daniel like you can mix and match 703 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:53,000 enough here to GET i think plenty of ball, handling 704 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,720 like in support of or Behind Trey. Young it's just 705 00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,599 this is a just win after, win have to win For. 706 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,799 Atlanta i'd, LIKE i can't remember the last time They 707 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:07,000 i'm sure we said this about a team last summer 708 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,200 and we're probably wrong about, it but like they just 709 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,599 keep stacking these additions that all seem to make a 710 00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:11,880 lot of. 711 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: SENSE i may have said that about The New Orleans 712 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,519 pelicans last offseason after the Jontat bury trade with The Atlanta. 713 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:22,079 Speaker 2: Hawks who could ever possibly look that? 714 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Up not? Me, UH a couple of chats to catch 715 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,440 up ON Bj love what The lakers are doing as 716 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,920 A celtics, fan and ALSO bj Says hawks played this. 717 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,640 Masterfully they added good, players But canard And kp on 718 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,839 one year, deals so they conduct below the tacks next 719 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,680 year if needs to and try, again especially at. Center, yeah, 720 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,039 Uh darth Van. Diego hawks are gonna be fun next. 721 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,480 Year yeah they. Are and IT'S i will say this 722 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,319 will be like a good case study OF i Know 723 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,519 Jalen johnson's, There like how good can your defense be 724 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,319 With Trey young because he's TRYING i think the thing 725 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,799 that's gone under talked about except With hawks, fans WHO 726 00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,279 i think it's gone over talked. About so we're gonna 727 00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,519 try and course correct. Here he's tried a lot harder on, 728 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:04,480 defense and like the it hasn't like the effort level, 729 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,559 matters but he's just at such a. Disadvantage but now 730 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:10,119 you surround him with guys like Resche On yakakungu's, there 731 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240 if porzingis is, Healthy Dyson daniels is a, monster and 732 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,279 now the key Ox Ander, walker who if he played 733 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,720 more last, season would have had an all defense case. 734 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,480 Himself so this is just like absurd eye glass cow 735 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,880 doing The Zachlow SHOULD i try and do, It. Kaka 736 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,599 i'm on The i'm on The hawks. FANDWAGON i like 737 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,480 this team Around Trey young better than any other team 738 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640 they've ever put around. Him, Yeah and it's like it's 739 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,039 funny because the kil Ox Ander walker does the type 740 00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,920 of stuff defensively THAT i think The hawks believe that 741 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,079 De Jontey murray would. Do but that was like kind 742 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:41,160 of never his, Brand like that was more of a 743 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,039 gamble type. Situation he was. RANGY i love The hawks. 744 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:45,720 OFFSEASON i don't have a bad thing to say about. 745 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,759 It and if if this is the take that blows 746 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:49,640 up in my, face so be. It this Is and 747 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,720 by the, way they that picked they got from The. 748 00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,079 PELICANS i Know pelicans, fans a lot of them even 749 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,519 mention THAT i know they don't want to hear, this 750 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,559 but holy like they could be ay honest destination if 751 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,440 they have this salaries like for next, offseason if they 752 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960 need they have some of like the prospect. Equity i'm 753 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,599 not saying they should go that, route BUT i still 754 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,440 we're gonna talk about The pelicans in a little bit 755 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,599 BECAUSE i honestly and if They're pelicans fans in the, 756 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,960 Chat i'll bookmarkt and save. IT i want to have 757 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,119 an honest discussion Because i've only been called names or 758 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,760 you've made fun of my appearance or my voice or, 759 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,760 whatever and, fine, whatever that's more on, video that's fair. 760 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Game i've yet to hear a compelling argument other than, like, 761 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,480 oh you guys don't know. That that's not. Compelling you 762 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,880 don't know Ball Derek queen is gonna be A hall 763 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,559 Of famer or. Something this isn't About Derek. Queen it's 764 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,639 about asset management, Specifically, like if you like what The 765 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,480 pelicans are, doing please explain to. Us i'm genuinely asking 766 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,480 you to please explain to us, why BECAUSE i think 767 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,719 this is honestly one of the most like all time 768 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,880 dumb off seasons that we've, seen and it's only a 769 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,960 couple weeks. OLD i co. 770 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: Sign Your hawks support AND i co sign Your pelicans. 771 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,480 DERISION i would also, add if you do think that 772 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719 you can logically Justify New orleans off, season. 773 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: You're sort of already. 774 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: Wrong so do your best grants being a little bit, 775 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,519 less but glance at the quiet part out loud as 776 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:11,840 really what? Kids? Uh one of the young Often i'm 777 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,280 die get the comment From Ryan poe And Derek queen 778 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320 will be all there that would do. It so The, Pistons, 779 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,559 uh is this you or? 780 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:20,519 Speaker 2: Me i'll take. 781 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: It they Signed Carris, lavert which was kind of in 782 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,159 the rumor mill for a while and and Maybe atlanta 783 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,400 just knew we got we got some uh some some better. 784 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,119 Options uh two years and twenty nine million for. Him 785 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:34,840 that's that's part of the non tax let's probably the 786 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,039 full non tax mid level based on the twenty nine 787 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:38,679 dollars figure could do with cap. 788 00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: Space this is kind of the issue with The. 789 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,679 Speaker 3: Pistons they have a couple of routes to go, here 790 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,719 depending on what they do With, beasley what they do With, 791 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,239 shrewder WHO i believe we've got reports is going to The. 792 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,639 Kings but that's one floating out there undisclosed years and. 793 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,320 DOLLARS i don't know. Yet that's hey first day of free. 794 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,320 Agency also Signed Paul reid for two years and eleven. Million 795 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920 the second year is non. Guaranteed we have The Malik 796 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,119 Beasley federal investing for betting ON nba games and. Props 797 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:05,559 during the twenty three to twenty four, season he was 798 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,079 up for a three, year forty two million dollar deal 799 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,119 was reported before all that suffice to, say he is 800 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,639 not up for that deal right, now and who knows. 801 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,559 Speaker 2: What that ultimately does to The pistons. OFFSEASON i. 802 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: GUESS i mean it kind of changes whether they need 803 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,440 to use cap space or, not because if they're not 804 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,559 bringing him back at, all then there's a couple other 805 00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:27,000 routes to. 806 00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: GO i was gonna, say is their, chance it makes 807 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719 It we have to talk about the basketball and the cap. 808 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,800 Element it is their. Chance it makes it better because 809 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,519 if his market just comes out from underneath him and 810 00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:39,159 he's going to be allowed back to, play he could 811 00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,159 just sign the minimum With detroit and we're off one 812 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:44,320 hundred and twenty percent rais or whatever from if they're 813 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,679 able to continue carrying his cap, hold and then they'll 814 00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,840 have early bird rights next off like they could wind 815 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,920 up keeping him without having to use their non tax 816 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,960 payer mid level to get. Him so that would BE i, 817 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,159 guess the silver. Lining but there's really like this is 818 00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,000 all this opens up a different can of worms about 819 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,400 betting and, sports which don't. 820 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,679 Speaker 3: Right and, really if it is, true Which i'm fairly 821 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,480 sure it, is we agree That shrewder is, gone then 822 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,280 what are LIKE i guess you're you're thinking About Tim 823 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,400 Hardaway junior's bird rights maybe like. 824 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 2: And keeping him around or, LIKE i don't, know. 825 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: He's Earlier Timmy, grant but he was already like the 826 00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:21,679 third the third guy of The beasley SHREWDER thhj like 827 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,719 trio that they were concerned. About it was kind of, 828 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,559 like let's figure out the first two and then whatever's 829 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,199 left we'll give To hardaway if if we want to at. All, 830 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,920 YEAH i don't, know what do You let's let's talk About. 831 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,800 Lavert what do you think Of? Lavert there just as 832 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,880 a as an on the court piece in that. 833 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: ROTATION i think it's a perfect sized deal for them 834 00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:42,440 that's very, movable and then it's both insurance against MAYBE 835 00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,880 j And ivy not working out as you're kind of 836 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,159 secondary ball handler next. Season but it's also like he 837 00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,360 can play Alongside kate AND. J. NOW i think he's 838 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,119 improved as a shooter. Enough we see all improvements defensively 839 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,280 In cleveland at, least maybe not so much when he 840 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,679 was traded To. ATLANTA i really like this as just 841 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,679 sort of a and WHAT i also like about it 842 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920 is what it kind of informs. Us and there's still 843 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,880 a lot of offseason. Left but about The piston summer is 844 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,400 that they're not going to exaggerate the impact of last, 845 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,280 season as you still kind of need to see let 846 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,320 this core, marinate see what you have in them if 847 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,480 you give them another year mostly together or make those 848 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,559 sort of step ladder improvements like you are With Karros. 849 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,519 Lavert SO i like, this especially in the face of, 850 00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:24,760 like if you can't really bring back, like why would 851 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960 you bring back the Leak beasley when that investigation is going. 852 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000 On this feels like a smart pivot because it's not 853 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,360 you're losing a lot as of right, Now you've lost 854 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,679 a lot of three point. Shooting but at least there's 855 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,440 These Carros slvert's a little bit better as a, shooter 856 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,480 not Than, beasley which is better as a shooter. Overall 857 00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:41,280 he's played more off the. BALL i think he Has 858 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,480 cleveland to thank for. That and you, can like you, 859 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,280 said you could still bring Back Tim Hardaway. Junior SO 860 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,039 i in the face of LIKE i would have preferred 861 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,239 the League beasley not to have bet on basketball games 862 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,280 and then been able to bring him, Back but this 863 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,559 is right. Allegedly SO I i like what they did, 864 00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,719 Here like they had a pivot, quickly it, seems or 865 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,239 even having to pivot at all when you thought you 866 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,719 were going to bring back this. GUY i think it 867 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,280 was smart by. 868 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,559 Speaker 2: Them how do you, Feel, NO i like. IT i 869 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:06,760 was just gonna raise the. 870 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,159 Speaker 3: Issue if he doesn't really address the shooting, issue he's 871 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,159 kind of another Maybe jade And ivy comes back and 872 00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:15,159 in addition to being kind, of you, know helping shoulder 873 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:18,199 the load as from a playmaking, perspective he can also 874 00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,880 improve on his. Shooting IT'S i would have. Felt, LOOK 875 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,280 i would have felt a lot better if they had 876 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,280 just not had The beasley issue and could have brought him. 877 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,760 Back and then you just you're, not you, know thinking 878 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000 so much about the. Shooting that just isn't a major 879 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,599 strength For. LeVert throughout his. Career he's had some high. 880 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,719 Points but that'd be my one nit to pick there 881 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:34,920 on a. 882 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: DEAL i, otherwise like. 883 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,119 Speaker 1: They do need to probably figure out a way to 884 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,280 get some extra shooting in here if you don't think 885 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,079 you're gonna Have, beasley because that is what's gonna Help cade. 886 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,119 Shine AND i don't, know like do you go to 887 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:47,880 the Trade you have options on the trade, MARKET i 888 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,119 guess so they can look at. That i'm gonna guess 889 00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:54,480 The timberwolves are, next and they're. Not The grizzlies are just. 890 00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:59,519 Whatever So memphis the big. One they renegotiated and Extended 891 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,079 Garring Aackson. Jr it's a five, year two hundred and 892 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:05,159 forty million dollars dollar deal in. Total it's not the actual, 893 00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:08,199 deal but that's now contract. Value so the extension is four. 894 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,760 Years they still have to create cap. Space it's another 895 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,559 situation where it was reported that they it's like The 896 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,280 rockets Signing Clint, capella and they. Renegotiated they they they 897 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,079 Extended Jaron Jackson junior BECAUSE i can't talk without having 898 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,199 the money to. Do. So they have to bump his 899 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920 salary up by about ten, million and that should bring 900 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400 his salary for next year right up to what his 901 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,800 max would have been in free agency of twenty twenty. Six, 902 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,039 Yeah Zike glascow, says shams starting out with The grizzlies 903 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,440 news out the. Wazoo, yeah that was really. Funny, grant 904 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,840 we have the other moves that, like, well here's how 905 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000 they're going to recoup that cap. Space my read on 906 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,000 this so far is That Cole anthony is gonna get bought, 907 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,440 out and there's no like if he's giving back half 908 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,079 of his salary so that The grizzlies can make up the. 909 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,039 Difference For Jaron Jackson, junior why have we not heard 910 00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,639 about his next destination because that would feel incredibly. Weird 911 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,559 they did Resign santi Al dahma three years fifty two 912 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:04,320 point five, million just as a, note that's less than on, 913 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,159 average the not at TAX mL and they Signed Ty 914 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,880 jerome three years twenty seven point seven, million which is 915 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,480 the room. Exception how do you feel about and you 916 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:15,480 made an interesting point before we hopped, on how do 917 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,119 you feel about the triple j renegotiate and? 918 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:23,639 Speaker 3: Extent, YEAH i think a couple benefits. Here one in 919 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400 terms of the new money he's getting if you over 920 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,719 the four year the new four, years basically it's right 921 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,559 in line with the four year max he could have 922 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,239 gotten from another. Team and then this is A Kevin 923 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,039 pelton note because and we were both, like oh, SHIT 924 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,760 i WISH i would have thought of. THAT i think 925 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400 one other way you can frame if you if you're 926 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,639 like sticker shocked by, this which maybe you're. NOT i, 927 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,880 Mean jackson is a borderline ALL nba player but critically 928 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,280 has not officially been one in the timeframe that would 929 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,280 affect his. Contract this takes the possibility of him had 930 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,280 he not done, this had the GREAT i should, say 931 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,800 had The grizzlies not worked his extension this way as 932 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,320 a renegotiating, extent had he not, anything he could have 933 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,320 made An ALL nba team this coming season and then 934 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,639 been eligible for the Bigger. Max so you take that 935 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000 off the table As, memphis and maybe if you think 936 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,079 this is a bit of an, overpay part of that 937 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,800 expenditure is going to eliminating the possibility of a massive, salary, which, like, 938 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,880 again if a guy Makes ALL nba typically you're, like, well, 939 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,000 OKAY i guess that's a good. Thing but this does 940 00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,360 potentially a potential selling point here is that it does 941 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,440 save The grizzlies from having to deal with. THAT i 942 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,119 think it's a fair deal For jackson. 943 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: Overall, AGAIN i just keep laughing, thinking, like you, know 944 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,239 Did Cole anthony go like hold on what like when 945 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,239 he got that, Deal because like as If Cole anthony 946 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920 knew The grizzlies cap sheet and realized that he was 947 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,480 going to have to be. 948 00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:46,599 Speaker 3: Gone john conchar is another guy that could maybe wave and, 949 00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,679 STRETCH i, think But anthony is someone that seems like 950 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,719 he's he's gonna be the ONE i wanted to ask 951 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,000 you About Ty. 952 00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: Jerome this is a team that Has John, morant that 953 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,159 Has Scotty Pippen. 954 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,119 Speaker 3: Jr one of my favorite backup point and now Here's 955 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,239 Ti jerome at a like a dollars to the production 956 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,360 deal looks, great right three for twenty. 957 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: Seven that's totally. 958 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 3: Fine do you are you reading anything into this with 959 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,480 respect to like what the backcourt point guard rotation might. 960 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: Be it's a little. 961 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: INTERESTING i think they probably view it as you can 962 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,320 Play Ti jerome with one of the other. TWO i 963 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,599 don't view this as, like, oh The cavs traded For Lonzo, 964 00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:28,000 ball so now they're gonna Trade Jarius. Garland like it 965 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,599 feels like that this isn't a through line to them Trading. 966 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 2: Joan that's what you read into that. Trade, No, No. 967 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's what people there was the immediate reaction, of, 968 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,519 Oh Darius garland could he now be on the block 969 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:41,039 because Of Lonzo? Ball and the answer is. No With John, 970 00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:43,519 MORAN i feel like he Can Ty jerome can play 971 00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,840 With jaw or he can play With Scottie Pippen. Jr 972 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,000 but also jaw tends to miss. TIME i don't have, 973 00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:49,639 right did you know? 974 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: THAT i was gonna say it wouldn't be a shock 975 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,079 If Ti jerome did have to play a fair amount 976 00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:55,039 for that, Reason. 977 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: And SO i think this is more about that they're 978 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,159 PROBABLY i, mean like they're built just as, WELL i 979 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:03,039 guess to insulate him defensively As cleveland. Was so we'll 980 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,360 see if he's better for them Should memphis get to the. 981 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,760 PLAYOFFS i think dollar for. DOLLAR i mean this sort 982 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,280 of comes down, to since apparently Col anthony's, leaving would 983 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,800 you rather Have Desmond bane or would you rather have 984 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:20,760 some would you rather Have Ti? Jerome and like some? 985 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,159 Picks and kntaby has called the, Pope so it's like 986 00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,639 it's kind of a fair question to, ask because you 987 00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:30,039 would have renegotiated an extended TRIPLE j, anyway you would 988 00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,920 have Kept aldama. Anyway so that's kind of they've decided 989 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,880 like picks And Tie jerome like that they're better. Off 990 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,599 and kntaby has called a. Pope excuse, ME i don't 991 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,800 know WHY i keep forgetting. Him and then a cheaper 992 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,360 dead money hit for. COLD i don't know what the 993 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,519 hell is happening. There this is another bizarre type of. 994 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:49,039 Speaker 3: Report But mel wants to know with these, moves Is 995 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,280 memphis the top six team in The? 996 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: West so who are The let's do that because a 997 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,719 part of the pelicans fans justification has been the only 998 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,079 teams in The west guaranteed to make the playoffs next 999 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:01,559 year Are, Denver Okay see In, houston and that's why 1000 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,679 The pelicans are making the moves that they. ARE i 1001 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,480 still don't understand that there's a. 1002 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: Team In minnesota that would have had an issue with. 1003 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: That so if we were talking about guaranteed to be 1004 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,199 in the top six right, now it does feel like 1005 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,880 there's four Spots, Minnesota, Oka, See, denver And. 1006 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,639 Speaker 3: Houston, Correct, Minnesota Okay See, Denver. Houston, SURE i would 1007 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,840 agree with. THAT i might add to that list BEFORE 1008 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,119 i got to the to The. 1009 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 2: PELICANS i think The clippers should be in that, conversation 1010 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,440 as like they've. 1011 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 3: Added we haven't gotten to them, yet BUT i think 1012 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440 if we Put Golden state in that conversation based on 1013 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,639 how they finished the regular season last, year they haven't 1014 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,280 really done, anything BUT i put them up, there and 1015 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,280 then you, sir they've done, Stuff they've picked up team. 1016 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: Options, okay, sure let's pump the brakes. 1017 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,519 Speaker 2: There we'll do forty minutes on. 1018 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: Them. 1019 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: RELAX i Know Quentin post did was part of a transaction, 1020 00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:56,599 Technically so, yeah we're gonna get. 1021 00:45:56,599 --> 00:46:00,199 Speaker 2: There it'll be behind the, paywall but we'll get. There. 1022 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,559 Speaker 3: YEAH i guess LIKE i Think memphis, is i'd say. 1023 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:06,559 BORDERLINE i, mean it's gonna come down to. 1024 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: Health. 1025 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,519 Speaker 3: Right if The warriors Lose steph for twenty five, games 1026 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:13,039 then they're gonna lose nineteen of. Them and If memphis 1027 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,159 can't Keep jaw on the floor and they have some 1028 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,199 other bad, luck then who. Knows BUT i Mean dallas 1029 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,559 would be in that. Conversation, Phoenix, PORTLAND i think you 1030 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:24,079 might put in a similar tier To. Memphis maybe that's 1031 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,000 a little unfair to The, grizzlies BUT i don't know 1032 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,199 that this at this early stage of the, OFFSEASON i 1033 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,039 don't think that's way off. 1034 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: Base, yeah there does feel like there's those four teams 1035 00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:34,760 and then there's just that there's things that could turn 1036 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,519 to like In dallas as an, Example, okay with D 1037 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:39,679 lo and Then kyrie comes, back what Does cooper flag 1038 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,679 look like as a, rookie they're, deep they should be 1039 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,719 defensively monsters, overall so you could see them being like 1040 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,280 a top three team in The. West but it feels 1041 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,639 like there's a clear Cut, okay There's, okac then There's, Houston, 1042 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,039 denver Maybe Loop minnesota into that same, tier and then 1043 00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:57,039 there's LIKE i don't, know like eight or nine teams 1044 00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:59,039 that might that you could just see anything happening with. 1045 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,280 Them And memphis is if you told Me memphis was 1046 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,360 the third, seed that one shocked. Me if you told 1047 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,960 me they were the nine or ten, seed that also 1048 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,599 would not shock. 1049 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,679 Speaker 2: Me, YEAH i. COULD i could see. 1050 00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:11,519 Speaker 1: That where are we going, Next, grant because not EVEN i. 1051 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,679 Speaker 3: Know we're going To, cleveland where you've just reported The 1052 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,360 lonzo ball acquisition Means Darius carland is. 1053 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,599 Speaker 2: Cooked so before we. 1054 00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,199 Speaker 3: Get to, That Sam merril's back four, years thirty eight. 1055 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,519 Million pretty good value deal in my, opinion just for 1056 00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,320 one of the better shooters in the, league and that 1057 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,199 you know he's not gonna he's not gonna change the game, 1058 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:33,400 defensively but he's good. ENOUGH i think he's better than 1059 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,880 most specialist types at that. Position, Also Isaaca corro going 1060 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,280 out For lonzo Ball acorro's got two years and twenty 1061 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,000 two million. Left lonzo two years twenty. Million that second 1062 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,039 year of that deal is a team. Option Ty jerome also. 1063 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,920 Gone it's just the hilarious THING i could never stop 1064 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000 repeating when Discussing jerome was, like if he signed for fourteen, 1065 00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,440 million it would cost The cavs close to one hundred 1066 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,719 just because of where they are in the Apron so 1067 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,320 he he was always going to be a. GONER i don't, 1068 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,400 know you want to start With Sam merrill or A lonzo. 1069 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,760 HERE i think Maybe lonzo's more interesting just because he 1070 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,760 gives such a different sort OF i don't, know skill set. 1071 00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 2: Dynamic than A. 1072 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,199 Speaker 3: Korro we haven't really talked about this. One what's your 1073 00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:18,599 feeling on The lonzo of it? 1074 00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,519 Speaker 1: All SO i love the, acquisition AND i think you 1075 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,800 are giving up some type of more conventional half court 1076 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,119 ball handling and playmaking by going from essentially Tie jerome to. 1077 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,840 Him but you're GETTING i would, say a better, Shooter 1078 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,159 you're getting a better. Defender he has great positional size as, 1079 00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:37,519 well so you can play him With donva Mitchell O'darius 1080 00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,559 garland depending on the team you could play him with 1081 00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,480 both of, them but depending on the. Opponent AND i 1082 00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,599 also think that he will do more to keep those 1083 00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,039 secondary lineups In, Cleveland like you can really get them 1084 00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,599 out in Transition Lonzo ball either throw the hit ahead, 1085 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,440 pass he'll catch, them so we'll keep you moving. There 1086 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,800 so what he kind of lacks in that traditional, playmaking 1087 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,119 he's going to make up for with. Pace now the 1088 00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:04,400 issue is he like you could, say, oh the, minutes 1089 00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,679 like he only played at seven hundred and seventy seven last, 1090 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,960 year but Like Tyro, rome didn't actually play that many 1091 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,400 more because he was barely he wasn't eligible for some 1092 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,920 of the. Awards cleveland's so. Deep if you believe Sam 1093 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,800 merril is able to take on a bigger, ROLE i fit, 1094 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,000 like and you Have DeAndre hunter though your perimeter minutes 1095 00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:20,760 are so locked in anyway THAT i think this is 1096 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480 a reasonable gambit to. Make you look at The Ti 1097 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,679 jerome money and you're, like, man that would have been 1098 00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,760 pretty good. Value so you're taking a risk With. Lonzo 1099 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,719 BUT i didn't like A coro for this team because 1100 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,400 everything he did, DEFENSIVELY i just think he gave back 1101 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,400 too much offensively in the playoffs for, them and now 1102 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,400 that you Have hunter And Dean. Wade if he's having 1103 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440 like you Just max, struce like you just have better. 1104 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,719 Options SO i really did love The lonzo trade for them. 1105 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:46,599 ONE i want to know what you, think BUT i 1106 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,800 also like Losing Tie, Jerome like how how do you 1107 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,320 like does this offset it at? All do you viewed 1108 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,800 as an upgrade when you're looking at the fit of 1109 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,639 everything on the caves? Now like where are you? 1110 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:58,119 Speaker 3: At So, i'll if you'll allow, Me i'll engage in 1111 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:04,079 some gross over. Simplification isaacacorro could not get on the 1112 00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:07,760 floor in high leverage games and late game situations in 1113 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,960 the playoffs for The. Cavs it's just like he would 1114 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,320 have good regular, seasons we would start to believe in the, 1115 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,280 shooting and then he just became someone you couldn't trust 1116 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,320 for you, know rotation caliber minutes in postseason. GAMES i 1117 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,440 Think Ty Jerome fell prayed a little bit of that, too, 1118 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:26,360 right like he suddenly is tricks didn't work And lonzo. 1119 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,280 Ball WHILE i would, concede it's you have to just, 1120 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,280 say like it is unlikely that he is healthy enough 1121 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,880 after a, season after a full season or whatever that 1122 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,639 amounts to for, him to be on the floor in 1123 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,599 like critical situations in the. Postseason but if he is, 1124 00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,119 HEALTHY i do think it's much easier to imagine him 1125 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,719 being out there, right like whether whether it's in the, 1126 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,800 beginning the start of the fourth quarter in a second 1127 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,199 round series or, whatever Because garland is resting Or mitchell's, 1128 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,119 RESTING i. 1129 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: Think ball could be out. THERE i really. 1130 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 3: DO i think because of the, defense because of the, 1131 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,800 shooting because of the. Playmaking he's not someone you. Attack 1132 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,360 he does add value on both. Ends he's not someone 1133 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920 you leave alone beyond the. Arc so like he's a guy, 1134 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,119 that if he's, right is the type of Player cleveland 1135 00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:12,559 has to, have right and not as a, starter but 1136 00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,400 as a playable postseason. Guy AND i think A coro wasn't, 1137 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,239 that AND i Think jerome wasn't. That now they might 1138 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,039 be much more valuable innings eaters during the, season BUT 1139 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,159 i don't Think cleveland. 1140 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 2: Should care about. That so that that's WHY i like 1141 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,280 The ball. 1142 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 3: Acquisition even if you've got to acknowledge like there's a 1143 00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:31,280 highly likely chance that he doesn't hold up, PHYSICALLY i 1144 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,000 think it's worth the. 1145 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:35,639 Speaker 1: RISK bj and The chat Says ball costs more than 1146 00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:37,599 What jerome got From memphis did not see that coming 1147 00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,920 In Clearly cleveland didn't. Either, maybe BUT i would also 1148 00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:44,760 argue that this isn't a perfect. Analog But Isaaca coro 1149 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,480 is at eleven million or eleven point two whatever it 1150 00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,920 is next, Year Ti jerome's at an App so If 1151 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,400 Iacle corps at an average annual value of, Eleven Ti 1152 00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,159 jerome is at an average annual value of eight and 1153 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,360 change nineteen, Million let's just say they got like kind 1154 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,440 of the. One there's some trade off Because lonzo doesn't 1155 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,679 do Everything tijerome. Does he doesn't do Everything Easaca corp 1156 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,639 does on, defense but he's a two way player and 1157 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,480 you got that for ten million. Bucks SO i would 1158 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,239 argue that that they viewed it as we're gonna kind 1159 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,320 of combine these two players into one player and save 1160 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:15,800 money that. 1161 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,079 Speaker 2: Way. 1162 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah next, up we are on to The Charlotte. Hornets 1163 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,639 one of the most bizarre trades That i've seen in recent. 1164 00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,800 Memory they Traded Yusuf nurkic To utah For Colin sexton 1165 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,159 and a twenty thirty second round. Pick that pick is 1166 00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:35,000 most favorable of THE La clippers In. UTAH i would 1167 00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,039 just like to point out that it's not a. Typo 1168 00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,840 The Charlotte hornets are the team who received the draft 1169 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,239 pick in this. Trade they also Signed Mason plumley for 1170 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,199 one year at the veteran's minimum because they have No 1171 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,039 bigley Was Musa diabatte is the only big man under 1172 00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:51,519 contract for. Them if you want to Include Grant, williams 1173 00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:55,719 who's Like grant's taller Than Grant, WILLIAMS i think moved 1174 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,920 Moved Josha kogi's guarantee date back From june twenty ninth 1175 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,559 To july. Fifteenth interesting if you're just thinking of trade. 1176 00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:05,079 Possibilities and they also just as a, Reminder grant AND 1177 00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:06,679 i Thik i've already talked about, this or maybe it 1178 00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:09,000 was mort AND. I they Traded Mark williams The phoenix 1179 00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:12,760 for Sile A mitchit's familiar friend, There lea, McNeely who 1180 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,320 was the number twenty nine, pick and then a twenty 1181 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,400 twenty nine first round pick that'll be the least favorable 1182 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,480 Of Minnesota phoenix In. Utah CAN i just, ask, well, 1183 00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,039 ACTUALLY i think we need to talk about that With, 1184 00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,719 utah Who i'm sure will be up. Next what do 1185 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,079 you make of What charlotte is kind of doing, here 1186 00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:29,639 like because The Colin. Sexton you could look at it two. 1187 00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:32,480 Ways do you think that they're preparing to kind of, like, 1188 00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:34,360 oh like it's The, east it might be a little 1189 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,599 bit more wide. Open we're gonna see what happens with. 1190 00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,920 Him you're gonna Throw conkinipple back into the phote If 1191 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,159 LaMelo And Brandon miller stay healthy and you think, it 1192 00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,480 maybe we get a better year From Tjan salon Or 1193 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,239 Miles Bridges or is this just a front office looking 1194 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,239 at it and saying like we kind of we don't 1195 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,159 know what's gonna happen With Trey. Man he was injured 1196 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,400 and we're gonna bring him. Back Con sext is actually. 1197 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,960 Good we might be able to actually get value for 1198 00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:58,960 him at the trade, deadline and so they just. 1199 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,159 Speaker 3: Pounced that's my first thought IS i just imagine it's 1200 00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,039 easier to get something For sexton at the deadline because 1201 00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:08,559 more teams might be interested in that player type than 1202 00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,239 would be In nurkic AND I i kind of almost 1203 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,519 looked at it more From utah's, perspective just because this 1204 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,320 was one WHERE i had to do like a triple take, 1205 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,800 too like which the picks going which way because they're 1206 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,840 like almost identical, salaries right and identical taken out to, pick. 1207 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 1: AND i still would have been, like it's. 1208 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:32,079 Speaker 2: Confusing, No SO I i IMAGINE utah wanted to remove 1209 00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,079 and they just did it With Jordan clarkson, too in 1210 00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:36,760 a different. Way let's just get these guards out of 1211 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,559 the way so that it's gonna Be george And collier 1212 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,840 that that are running the, show and And Ace bailey 1213 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,119 maybe is gonna get more on ball. 1214 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 3: Stuff so if you just Have sexton out of the, 1215 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,719 way that's what it. IS i don't know why they didn't. 1216 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 2: JUST i guess he's probably too good to buy, out 1217 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,239 but you. COULD i don't. 1218 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: KNOW i Like charlotte Getting, sexton but it's somehow paradoxically 1219 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,440 easier for me to understand WHY utah would move. 1220 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,159 Speaker 2: Him JUST i don't. Know this is a weird. Trade 1221 00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:06,239 we've Been we've supported The hornets in. General this one 1222 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,880 just just, CONFUSING. 1223 00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,119 Speaker 1: I think from their, perspective THOUGH i DON'T i don't 1224 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,559 find it confusing BECAUSE i landed on just whatever they're 1225 00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:17,199 trying to, Do Colin sexton is the more valuable player 1226 00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,440 than use Of, Nurkic like that's just a fact that he's, 1227 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,440 Younger like he, shoots and we wanted more shooting Around LaMelo. 1228 00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:25,039 BALL i don't know how much those two are gonna play, 1229 00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:27,199 together to be, Clear like now you Have Colin, sexton 1230 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,199 who's not a motion, guy but he can, shoot and 1231 00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,119 Then Konker nipple on top of If Brandon miller and 1232 00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:33,960 that if Is Miles bridge is gonna hit his. Threes 1233 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,239 so this just feels like what have we talked about 1234 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,119 With charlotte kind of at every turn in the past 1235 00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:41,360 couple of years with The Jeff peterson lead front, office 1236 00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:44,079 they've just been. Opportunistic it seems like they're kind of 1237 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,559 playing the long. Game they've not taken on long term. 1238 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:49,920 Money they didn't do that Here Colin sexton's. INSPIRING i 1239 00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:53,320 like this just shows like a level of forethought From 1240 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,280 charlotte that we are still maybe not entirely used to 1241 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,119 kind of like what's going on In washington where we 1242 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,760 just you talk about that might be our single most 1243 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,679 viewed video by the end of like the like the 1244 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,679 season of like of a clip Like Washington wizards. FANS 1245 00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:07,519 i guess maybe they're not used to the national people 1246 00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:10,119 saying nice things about. Them The hornets are just like 1247 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,960 this is, smart like, THIS i don't know what's gonna 1248 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,840 become of. It maybe they won't turn him into. Anything and, 1249 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,400 yeah you could, say, well like look at the center 1250 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,920 position they had to go assign. Plumbly that kind of 1251 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,800 signals to me that they're not gonna go out and 1252 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,039 do what The lakers tried to do and overpay For Mark. 1253 00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:26,400 Williams like they're clearly gonna long game. This SO i 1254 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,880 tip my cap To charlotte because you might not be 1255 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,000 able to necessarily see the vision of it on the court. 1256 00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,360 Perfectly but If Trey man's not gonna be, there if 1257 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,280 you're worried about him being, healthy like you need a 1258 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,119 backup all like it's Not Josh, green well say it go. 1259 00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:38,480 Ahead it. 1260 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 2: Depends it depends on if he's on the move or. Not, 1261 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,000 damn if he's standing, still he's. 1262 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:46,559 Speaker 1: Useless it's, weird BUT i love this For. CHARLOTTE i 1263 00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:51,599 don't understand what's going on In. Utah, grant would you 1264 00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:53,199 care to take us through? That? 1265 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: YEAH i would love. To. 1266 00:56:54,760 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 3: Uh they they With, sexton the yurkic of it, All 1267 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,840 it's it's hard to. UNDERSTAND i just have to view 1268 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,719 it as we need to Move sexton to clear the 1269 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,559 decks for our younger players to be on the. Ball 1270 00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:11,280 we already mentioned the pick there the twenty thirty second 1271 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,599 with the most favorable of The, clippers And utah is going. 1272 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 2: Out. 1273 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,679 Speaker 3: Uh they also bought Out Jordan. Clarkson shout out to, you. 1274 00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,880 Congratulations he's gonna be a nick for the vet. Minimum 1275 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,719 they Waved johnny ju, Saying, UH i don't know what 1276 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,800 else is there to talk about? Here maybe do we 1277 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,559 want to talk about what The jazz did not, do 1278 00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:34,320 which is there's No kessler extension yet there's that's pretty. 1279 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: MUCH i DON'T i don't understand the theory of just 1280 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,960 doing what they did With, sexton because if you needed to, 1281 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,400 get if you're worried about getting like clearing, minutes why 1282 00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:47,360 was he not, moved like you're gonna tell me that 1283 00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:49,119 Not at any point over the past couple, seasons you 1284 00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,559 couldn't have gotten second rounders For Jordan clarkson Or Collin 1285 00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:52,039 sexton at. 1286 00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: Minimum and MAYBE i didn't want to see An inge 1287 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,360 coming in and saying let's do. 1288 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,519 Speaker 1: Something we're just gonna be actively. Bad we're not gonna 1289 00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:01,760 touch with the. Minutes it's just, yeah SO i. 1290 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,559 Speaker 3: Know there was a time Where nurkis was playing Over Nikole, 1291 00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:08,840 jokic so maybe maybe The jazz are just ready to unlock. 1292 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: That Now here's the thing is that time was short. Lived, 1293 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:18,639 sure and so this just feels like poor asset management by, 1294 00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,079 Them like you. SHOULD i feel, like we don't know 1295 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,000 what the offers. Were we're gonna tell me there wasn't 1296 00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:25,079 gonna be deals out there For Jordan. Clarks they maybe 1297 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,440 want to see how much he gave back in his. 1298 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,519 Buyout but you couldn't have got like you had to 1299 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,679 give up a second round pick to Get is that 1300 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,719 what the market was in THE? Nba this just feels 1301 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,559 like a. MISREAD i understand the logic of we're really 1302 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:38,559 leaning into the youth movement, now and you cleared the 1303 00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,519 way For Ace bailey to get like you took you 1304 00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,960 took off two of your highest volume on ball, guys 1305 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,239 and now you Have Ace, Bailey Isaiah collier And Kyante 1306 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,039 george is your highest on ball guys and maybe a 1307 00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,400 little bit of lowry market and sprinkled In Walder clayton's 1308 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,199 there as. WELL i JUST i don't like this is 1309 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,599 just it's way. Underwhelming the only THING i could think 1310 00:58:56,639 --> 00:58:58,679 is With Jordan clarkson is maybe he's been there so 1311 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,159 long and been kind of a good older that they 1312 00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:03,199 did him the Solid and we don't need second round 1313 00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,039 picks For Jordan. Clarkson we want to take on. Money 1314 00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:07,960 SO i understand that almost more THAN i understand The 1315 00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:10,880 Colin sexton. Deal was it they wanted to make sure 1316 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,800 he wasn't, there like sort of take the club out 1317 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,960 Of Will hardy's, bag and but they also wanted to 1318 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,039 preserve the salary, slot like but they didn't want that 1319 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:22,239 salary slot to extend beyond next. SEAS i Just i'm 1320 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,280 having a lot of trouble understanding. It this is another 1321 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,079 one where the More i've read about, it it doesn't 1322 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:28,840 seem like anyone has a, hold or at least the 1323 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,519 Cases i've seen for The jazz have not been very 1324 00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:32,159 compelling for. 1325 00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: IT i would agree with that this is so far 1326 00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:35,519 the hardest deal to. 1327 00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:42,039 Speaker 1: Understand also not very hard to. Understand But Jordan clarkson 1328 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,320 is now a. Nick this is HOW i feel about. 1329 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,480 It is it means That Russell westbrook is not a. 1330 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:50,559 Nick SO i kind of favor they're Getting Jordan clarkson 1331 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:53,039 in for one year at the MINIMUMS i mean he clears. 1332 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,320 Waivers The nicks also picked up the two million dollar 1333 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,800 team option On ariel Huck porty and declined the three 1334 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,920 and a half million dollar team option ON. Pj tucker 1335 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,320 and just rumor has, It promot reports they've reached out 1336 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,079 To Al, horford so they still have the MINIML e 1337 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,440 in their bag for the Value Jordan clarkson at the 1338 01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:11,360 veteran's minimum is like taking up the campaign. Minutes, sure 1339 01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,159 but it still kind of sucks because they don't have 1340 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,679 like the secondary guy who can drive offense for, Others, 1341 01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:20,840 like who is the who are you trusting aside From 1342 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,360 Jalen brunson to set up other players on this? Team 1343 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,440 the Most it might Be Tyler. 1344 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,239 Speaker 3: KOLLIK i MEAN i was gonna Say, bridges but that 1345 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,760 wasn't gonna be Something i'd say and feel good. 1346 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,599 Speaker 1: About, yeah, Fair SO i just, LIKE i don't, know 1347 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,559 this is. Fine i'm curious to see What The nicks 1348 01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:41,480 still don't have a, coach which is like less than 1349 01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:44,960 ideal headed into free. Agency what would you like to 1350 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,199 see them use there quickly before? On what would you 1351 01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:49,000 like to see them use their mini mlle, on like 1352 01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:50,880 would you support it being used on a big or 1353 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,360 you've mentioned like you want to see more, shooting or 1354 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,239 you wanted them to get another ball. HANDLER i believe 1355 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,599 and THEY i Mean Jordan clarkson is that. 1356 01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah clarkson is. YEAH i Guess. 1357 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 3: Clarkson, look if it were a if it were A 1358 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,679 thibodeau kind of, situation first of, all like the depth 1359 01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:10,559 would would matter, less but like you could See clarkson 1360 01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:13,519 kind of doing A Jalen brunson as a backup where 1361 01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:16,239 he's just really kind of dominating the ball and generating 1362 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,119 most of his own. Shots and and maybe THAT i don't, 1363 01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:22,400 know there's some some value in like stylistic continuity there 1364 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,480 between the first and second. 1365 01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: Units he JUST i think you were kind of touching on. 1366 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,800 This he doesn't. 1367 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 3: Quite like scratch the the itch of score slash playmaker 1368 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,800 like he's. Been he's one Six man of The. Year 1369 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,079 that's that now is kind of receding into the rear 1370 01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:41,760 view a little bit too. Much and he but he 1371 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,119 isn't The he's by by no means like the pure. 1372 01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:49,400 Facilitator SO i think he's an. Upgrade it's it doesn't, 1373 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,760 Like i'm not going crazy over. It Mostly i'm thinking 1374 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,519 about what hasn't, happened which is A bridges extension yet 1375 01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:58,400 that's still that's just been my most interesting kind Of 1376 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,559 nicks offseason. 1377 01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,039 Speaker 2: Subplot but but maybe that's maybe there's. 1378 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,079 Speaker 3: Nothing to worry about there Because jackson's like the only 1379 01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:05,639 guy In memphis that's that's sign an. 1380 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,119 Speaker 2: Extension those just haven't quite happened. 1381 01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Yet. Yeah that but if he, doesn't like if we 1382 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,840 start to kind of like with the coaching search taking 1383 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,119 a couple of, weeks if it's been a few, weeks 1384 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,480 you're gonna start to, wonder are they just gonna let 1385 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,519 this get to unrestricted free agency and either have to 1386 01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:19,039 give him the fifth year or watch him? 1387 01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:21,639 Speaker 3: Walk SO i DON'T i don't think he should take 1388 01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:23,400 what he can't the four for one fifty. 1389 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Six If i'm, Him i'm not doing. 1390 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: It we just went through the list of free agents 1391 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,840 with The, Lakers so anyone who might just be choppering 1392 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,760 in to listen to this, segment Like, mcalpridg just might 1393 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,840 end up being the best available free agent on the 1394 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:34,559 market next. 1395 01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:37,599 Speaker 3: Year and even if he's, not it's not that hard 1396 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:38,880 to beat four for one fifty. 1397 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,039 Speaker 2: Six it's just like that could be. Easy that's one 1398 01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:43,480 way to do. 1399 01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:47,639 Speaker 1: It you just did. IT I glasgow, Says nick's coaching 1400 01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,280 search is like watching the person at the bar at 1401 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,400 a one thirty am who will not go home. Alone 1402 01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:54,719 it's getting. Desperate Mike brown is getting a second. Meeting 1403 01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:57,719 he's reportedly the. FAVORITE i will say he's he can 1404 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,280 do some stuff on, offense which is funny because he 1405 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,559 viewed MAYBE i just have not been like covering the 1406 01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:04,360 game long. Enough why don't if you use like a 1407 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,679 defensive minded coach way back, when and now he's viewed 1408 01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:07,639 as like this offensive. 1409 01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 3: SAVANT i think it's definitely flipped The kings The king's, 1410 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,800 years well The king's, year the one year when they 1411 01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:18,360 briefly set the record for offensive. EFFICIENCY i think that 1412 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,239 that was the thing that, happened, right something close to. 1413 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 2: It he got a lout of credit for. That but, 1414 01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:22,840 YEAH i don't. 1415 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 3: KNOW i think that's who it's gonna, be, Though, Dan, 1416 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,599 LIKE i Think Mike brown's about as good as The 1417 01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:27,440 knicks are gonna, do. 1418 01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:30,559 Speaker 1: Which is just sort of like, man and, look by the, 1419 01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:34,039 WAY i will, say you better nail this offseason as 1420 01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:36,280 the next Because MESSI u jury's just floating around out, 1421 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,679 there AND i Know James jolan is like still mad 1422 01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:43,199 about how The Carmelo anthony negotiations went And DeAndrea bonyonni 1423 01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:48,360 negotiations went after. That but like like they went After 1424 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,880 massia in the past before they Hired Leon Rose, grant 1425 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,400 you remember That messi was on their. List, Yeah so, 1426 01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:55,760 like if You're Leon rose and you've already shown Like 1427 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,480 James dolan don't give no fuck about THE cia connections 1428 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,000 at this, point like he's the one whose beer head 1429 01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,360 at The thibodeau, Exits I'm i'm just putting a pin in. 1430 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,360 That and so like if you're just you fired your 1431 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,679 coach after getting The Eastern conference. Finals they were compelling 1432 01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:10,360 cases on either. Side i've even said my initial take 1433 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,880 on the matter was just absurdly. Bad but now we 1434 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,800 are getting to the point where, Like, okay now it's 1435 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,800 been a few weeks and we're in free, agency like 1436 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,000 ideal that you'd want to have like a coaching place 1437 01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:22,800 now and we've only heard like are you really waiting 1438 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,239 out like The Jason kidds situation In dallas to see 1439 01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:27,599 if he gets an extension or, not which is also 1440 01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:29,800 on Insparad just if you made it to the conference 1441 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,639 finals and you, hire you change the coach without making 1442 01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:36,800 any big time let's say, upgrades and that is the end. 1443 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,079 Result Is Mike brown Or Jason Kidd, LIKE i. DON'T 1444 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,880 i have lots of questions at that. 1445 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,199 Speaker 2: Point don't care for. 1446 01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:44,519 Speaker 1: That by the. Way the the other thing they have 1447 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,239 not done, yet which is keep an eye on is 1448 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,920 just like you don't Want Josh hart And Jordan CLARKSON 1449 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,719 i think coming. OFF i guess they are gonna come 1450 01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:52,480 off the same, bench but like that unit as the 1451 01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:55,320 spacing could get weird unless you Trust clarkson. Shooting so 1452 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,360 Is Josh hart gonna be starting again next? Year? Grant but, 1453 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,000 like Where's Mitchell? Robbins because you don't Want, Clarkson robinson 1454 01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:03,480 And hart on the flour at the same, time at 1455 01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:07,079 least for too many. Minutes, no our next team? Up 1456 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,880 you want to take us through The Dallas. 1457 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,719 Speaker 3: Mavericks, yeah Ra Kyrie irving back three, years one hundred 1458 01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:14,840 and twenty. Million he declined his player, option lowered his 1459 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,960 twenty five to twenty six cap number in the. Process 1460 01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:19,639 that also Allowed dallas to open up The MINI mL 1461 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,960 which went to D'Angelo russell two, years eleven point seven. 1462 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,599 Million that was one of those deals that was out 1463 01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:29,519 there like several days before it. Happened it was MAYBE 1464 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:31,159 i don't know how you, felt but that seemed to 1465 01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:35,000 me like the most locked in Deal dallas, obviously at 1466 01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:38,679 least Until irving comes. Back is guna need an offensive, 1467 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,119 leader a ball. HANDLER i Think russell's five that's A i, 1468 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,840 look anyone who's listened to this for any length of 1469 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,719 time knows That i'm not a big deal, fan but, 1470 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,199 like this is a totally reasonable expenditure for. HIM i 1471 01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:55,800 think he will Help dallas. Offensively other than, that fairly 1472 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,119 quiet Around dallas unless you want to talk About Cooper, 1473 01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:02,440 flag who is not a free. Agent hardware knocks from Be. 1474 01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,599 Speaker 1: Rich hardware knocks the only place we'll hear In andrea 1475 01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:06,119 on your honey name drop on the first night of 1476 01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:09,280 free agency in twenty twenty. Five, yep that's our. BRAND i, 1477 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,039 LOOK i think it's, fine like if you were to 1478 01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:12,760 GET i, mean for what they had. Available it also 1479 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,000 makes The kyrie deal look better and like kind of 1480 01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:18,559 regardless of who they, signed because, okay four, year three 1481 01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:21,800 years one twenty that lowered his cap number enough to open, up, 1482 01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:24,719 right that not the taxpayer mid level because they were 1483 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:27,800 over the second apron after they won the draft. Lottery 1484 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,199 they weren't planning on that salary. 1485 01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 3: SLOT i think weren't, they, Though, DAN i, mean are 1486 01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,880 Fans Nico harrison, said fans are finally starting to see the. 1487 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,639 Speaker 2: Vision this was? 1488 01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:39,599 Speaker 1: It what a what a fucking? ASSHOLE i don't say, that, 1489 01:06:39,679 --> 01:06:42,239 LIKE i. DON'T i don't say that, Lightly, like are 1490 01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,280 you kidding the mass fans were supposed to? See was your? 1491 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,880 Vision even you're gonna get lucky as fuck in the 1492 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,920 draft lottery and, yeah your timeline is? That, yeah that 1493 01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:53,280 was the, plan and like it just puts the onus, 1494 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,400 on like, yeah hopefully the fans can see the vision, 1495 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,079 Now like you would shut the fuck, up my, god 1496 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,440 take the, microphone taken troll the reins, out. MAN i 1497 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,039 didn't want to go on A Nico harrison, ran right, 1498 01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:05,199 NOW i need to stop. THIS i REALLY i. 1499 01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Didn't mean to trigger, you BUT i am not sorry about. 1500 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,599 Speaker 1: It this is just like the lack of the Whole, 1501 01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:12,159 OH i didn't know that fans are gonna be mad 1502 01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:15,519 that we Traded luca dumbass like just, man just some. 1503 01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:19,400 People the lack of self awareness of some, people including myself, 1504 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,719 Sometimes But i've never tried to put the onus, On, like, 1505 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,840 yeah the thing That i'm not, saying like you guys 1506 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,760 didn't see the. Vision my vision was that we were 1507 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,119 gonna win The Draft lottery without even. Trying and by the, 1508 01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:32,960 way what did that? Do what did that do aside 1509 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000 from give you more of an excuse to like not 1510 01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:37,079 continue building Around Anthony davis And Kyrie. 1511 01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,039 Speaker 2: Irring, Right it's a complicated. 1512 01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:41,519 Speaker 3: Vision it takes a while to understand, IT i, mean 1513 01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:45,400 and so we haven't really even fully. Realized, LOOK i 1514 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,840 WISH i believed in myself Like Nico harrison believes in. 1515 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,719 HIMSELF i would get a lot more accomplished if that were. 1516 01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: True there is sometimes where like arrogance is aspirational and, 1517 01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:57,000 yeah to me is honestly not one of those, times 1518 01:07:57,079 --> 01:08:01,599 because he's such like an unstoppable mold about it that 1519 01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:04,559 and and it's, unsufferable like just listening to him like 1520 01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:08,800 spin this, beat it's just so. Unsufferable i's one point 1521 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:15,199 eight percent. Visionary, Uh, Okay i'm, SORRY i didn't mean 1522 01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,079 TO i don't know why that triggered. Me it's late 1523 01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:20,600 WHERE i. Live maybe that's why our next team is 1524 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,479 The Minnesota. TIMBERWOLVES i can guarantee YOU i meant to 1525 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,920 put them on, sooner so just, WOLF i don't know 1526 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,039 how they ended up this far. Down they Signed Nas 1527 01:08:29,079 --> 01:08:30,880 reeve for five, years one hundred and twenty five. MILLION 1528 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,800 i really want your thoughts on. That grant Resigned Julius 1529 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,720 rando for three, years one hundred million. Bucks he gets 1530 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,800 a player option on that third. Year then they had 1531 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,800 to sign and trade WITH naw four, years sixty two 1532 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,600 million dollars To. Atlanta they received a twenty seven second 1533 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,159 round pick and. Cash this is the big. One they 1534 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:48,439 Guaranteed Leonard miller's contract for next. YEAR i think this 1535 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,600 means that they're probably gonna Trade Rudy Gobert Anthony edwards 1536 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,560 and continue to rebuild Around Leonard. Miller and they're bringing 1537 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,199 Back joe Ingles as just sort of like the you, 1538 01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,479 know The Eudonis haslam, role except he's only been In 1539 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,960 minnesota for a little bit. Less BUT i want to 1540 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,199 start with the not what do you make of? That 1541 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,960 even the new cap LIKE i just, SAW i saw 1542 01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,840 five years and it stopped me in my. Tracks it was. 1543 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,039 Speaker 3: It seemed like a lot was my very first, thought 1544 01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:18,960 both in years and, dollars because Like, READ i, think 1545 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,359 maybe not to the same extent as some other guys felt, 1546 01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:25,680 like all, right, well The wolves are gonna need to 1547 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,359 beat the mid level because certainly they'll be mid level 1548 01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:31,640 offers for him if, he like if he were to 1549 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,279 hit the. MARKET i didn't think you'd have to go 1550 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,720 this high or this long in terms of. Years AND 1551 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,239 i do think it raises the interesting hypothetical of, like 1552 01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:44,479 would you, LOOK i think you can make the case That, 1553 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,039 READ i, mean it's been basically, proven is the best 1554 01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:48,880 backup big in the. 1555 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,319 Speaker 2: League AND i think you could make the. 1556 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,199 Speaker 3: Case that there's a world where like you maybe moved 1557 01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:56,880 forward Without Rudy gobert and your defense gets, worse but 1558 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,520 he's okay at center and you Have randall, back and 1559 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,880 you can you, Know jade McDaniels can play some. Four 1560 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,239 but like a team that also Has randall back and 1561 01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:10,199 that can play McDaniels at the, four and that continues 1562 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:14,520 to Have Rudy, gobert do you give any pause and maybe, think, 1563 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,159 like wouldn't? It could you've just Kept Alexander walker and 1564 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,720 like for, that for what he, got and would that 1565 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,720 be preferable than Having nas at this. NUMBER i, MEAN 1566 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,800 i think it's a fair. QUESTION i THINK i want 1567 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,479 to make. CLEAR i Think red is a really really 1568 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,439 good offensive big AND i think there are scenarios where 1569 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,720 he could start for. THEM i just it's a big 1570 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,680 number for a. Backup just maybe that's the simplest way 1571 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,439 to put. It i'm surprised that That minnesota went this 1572 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,079 high for a guy whose utility is just kind of 1573 01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:48,920 limited because of the guys they have on the roster. 1574 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: At his, position you, know or around his. Position what 1575 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,079 did you? 1576 01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Think i'm kind of fell in the same. Camp and 1577 01:10:55,039 --> 01:10:57,119 it's JUST i know you said that maybe there is 1578 01:10:57,159 --> 01:10:59,720 a scenario Where, okay if you move on From Ridego, 1579 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,560 bart he's just your. START i just don't know what 1580 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,680 the defense. Looks it's like that's, worse that's for. Sure 1581 01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:07,720 and so they were in the twenty six percent tile 1582 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,079 last year of defensive efficiency When randall And reed play 1583 01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:13,920 Without Rudy, gobert the rim protection during those minutes was 1584 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,399 actually pretty. Good and So i'm wondering if this telegraphs 1585 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,960 two things that they believe That Nikkle Alexander walker given how, 1586 01:11:21,039 --> 01:11:23,359 yeah he's improved as a, shooter but that hasn't translated 1587 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,600 into the past two postseasons for, him at least not. 1588 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,720 Perfectly so they viewed him as just more, expendable especially With, 1589 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,600 Tarren shannon And jay And clark on the roster and 1590 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,800 then Even Rob dilling him. Too maybe that's part of 1591 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,399 the calculus BECAUSE i would Say shannon And clark like 1592 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,279 they're not gonna be anywhere near the, shooter or at 1593 01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:40,800 least they're not. Profiling is that now that naw has 1594 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,800 Been But i'm wondering if it also kind of thinks 1595 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,439 that The wolves believe that they could sustain better Without Rudy, 1596 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,239 gobert because if you put him into trade, packages it 1597 01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:51,479 probably gets pretty. INTERESTING i know he's, older but he's 1598 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,800 still just you PLoP him on that roster and during 1599 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,439 those minutes that he's on the, floor you're gonna have 1600 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,800 like a top seven eight defense at. Minimum so THAT 1601 01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:02,039 i feel Like i'm reading it that, way is that 1602 01:12:02,079 --> 01:12:05,600 they Decided randall was the most like. INDISPENSABLE i know 1603 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,359 he got a shorter, deal but like they don't have 1604 01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:10,960 a second option on this. Team other than, him it's 1605 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,439 Just Santhy edwards As, Julius Like nas can't really do 1606 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,239 That mike. Comedy they can't even really drive the offense 1607 01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:19,159 in that vein. Anymore maybe it's dealing him one, day 1608 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,399 but it's it's not happening right. Now would you, agree, Though, 1609 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,199 like if you were to tier this when you're looking 1610 01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:28,199 at their three main free, agents and we obviously know 1611 01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:30,760 how they shook, out like or is it like even 1612 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,239 Throw Rudy gobert into the? Equation, then so if you're 1613 01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:35,880 to rank those four players in terms of being indispensable 1614 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:41,399 to The, wolves it does feel like The wolves Decided, Randall, Nas, 1615 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,600 gobert And nikiel and that was their, Rankings like what 1616 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,560 would your rankings have? Been, WELL i. 1617 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,520 Speaker 2: Don't know what to do WITH i think it is 1618 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,279 clear that of the, three It's Randall. Nass randall got 1619 01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:57,600 the highest annual, value read got the longest, Deal so 1620 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,760 That randall one now is Too Alexander walker. 1621 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 3: THREE i think it's interesting to frame it like. YOU 1622 01:13:05,039 --> 01:13:07,119 i guess we sort of both kind of talked about 1623 01:13:07,119 --> 01:13:10,800 this in the context of like what this means For gobert's. 1624 01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 2: Spot on the. 1625 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 3: TEAM i kind of think like in terms of like 1626 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,000 who This wolves team is right, now and this is 1627 01:13:17,039 --> 01:13:19,319 a team that's made the conference finals twice in a. 1628 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,319 Row gobert probably still is number one on that, LIST i. 1629 01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:26,840 Think BUT i also think what we're kind of butting 1630 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:31,319 up against is like the nas deal suggests that The 1631 01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:34,479 wolves may not think that's the permanent state of, things 1632 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:38,920 or that there's another. Way but, LIKE i, Like gobart 1633 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,199 has his, problems and they're mostly on. OFFENSE i think 1634 01:13:41,239 --> 01:13:44,119 we've been pretty clear in like hammering that home whenever 1635 01:13:44,199 --> 01:13:47,279 we have The gobert playoff. Discussion but at the, moment 1636 01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:48,359 he still matters a. 1637 01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:50,399 Speaker 1: Ton let me point you to the evidence that he 1638 01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:55,279 gets played off the court. Defensively where is? It can't find? 1639 01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 2: It Terrence man making fourteen corner threes in one game 1640 01:13:58,920 --> 01:13:59,199 and then. 1641 01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,279 Speaker 1: There are six, whatever that's Not Rudy. 1642 01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,199 Speaker 2: Gobert that's, YEAH i just gotta get out there. Already. 1643 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, NO i think the go beart of it all 1644 01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:10,199 is pretty. INTERESTING i GUESS i would say read at 1645 01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:12,840 this number certainly makes it more likely that A gobert 1646 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,079 move is a, possibility that that's maybe the conservative way 1647 01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:17,399 to frame. 1648 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 1: It what Is Rudy gobert MAKING i. 1649 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,279 Speaker 2: Don't know thirty. 1650 01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 1: ISH i, mean, like who's the player that you could 1651 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,520 get for, That Like i'm just. Curing i'm curing like 1652 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,119 the TEAM i would also be interested. IN i think 1653 01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:28,359 it would be out. THERE i want to be, clear 1654 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,760 But minnesota's kind of strapped for other. Assets but like 1655 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,720 what would make and maybe is there a way where, 1656 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,359 okay maybe you're bringing back a cheaper rim protector's, Part like, 1657 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,720 honestly what About Like i'm trying to make the money 1658 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,159 work in my head like, immediately and it's not going. 1659 01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,000 To so this package is gonna need to be fleshed 1660 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,840 out a little bit. More but what About Rudy Gobert 1661 01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:50,800 For Derek lively And Klay. 1662 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:58,319 Speaker 3: THOMPSON i THINK i, probably, oh, man YOU'RE i was 1663 01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:00,359 gonna SAY i would do that If I'm Minis. Soda 1664 01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:06,159 but that really Puts Derek lively being what we thought 1665 01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:08,600 he was gonna be as a, rookie like, immediately you, 1666 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,279 know like prime wise is doing a lot of heavy 1667 01:15:11,319 --> 01:15:14,239 lifting there Because lively would have to come in and 1668 01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:16,960 be your defensive anchor in the, middle which like not 1669 01:15:17,039 --> 01:15:17,760 out of the realm. 1670 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Of, possibility but that's a little bit of a. 1671 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Reach what About Klay thompson AND. Pj washington For Rudy. 1672 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,159 Speaker 2: Gobert, YEAH i don't think that's moving the needle. 1673 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:29,159 Speaker 3: Enough ESPECIALLY i don't Know thompson is someone that you 1674 01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:30,560 just might not be able to get on the floor 1675 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,399 For minnesota in like big. Minutes what About Rudy gobert 1676 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,800 For Karl Anthony Towns now we're. Talking, yeah you Get 1677 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,399 Mitchell robinson And rudy out. There good, luck good luck? 1678 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,199 Speaker 1: Offenses anything else on The wolves before we move. FORWARD 1679 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,159 i feel like they're not. Done i'm just because it 1680 01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:49,239 doesn't feel like their offense still kind of they're they're 1681 01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:51,520 maintaining the status, quo WHICH i think is smart for 1682 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,720 the most. Part BUT i don't where does There is 1683 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,119 it Just Quirk dillingham more? OFTEN i don't know whether 1684 01:15:57,279 --> 01:15:59,199 or are you banking On dante De vincenzo having more 1685 01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,079 of an even camp now you can't bank on my 1686 01:16:01,119 --> 01:16:01,880 comedy being much. 1687 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 3: Better, NO i think you're banking On dillingham's rise at 1688 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,680 least like Offsetting conley's further decline and maybe netting out 1689 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,359 as a positive overall at some point in this season 1690 01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:17,399 and you have more consistency From. Devincenzo i'm not sure 1691 01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:18,239 what Else i'd see them. 1692 01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 2: DOING i, mean they're not super flexible at this. 1693 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,119 Speaker 1: Point But David Rudy gobert for like a LaMelo ball, 1694 01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:27,279 construction The Wolves Rudy gobert And Rob dillingham for LaMelo. 1695 01:16:27,359 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 3: Ball you've really become obsessed with Getting Rudy gobert off 1696 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,880 of The. Wolves they have. 1697 01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:36,399 Speaker 1: It's A i don't have a. WALL i, mean let 1698 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,279 me talk about the support FOR Rfk junior really quick 1699 01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:41,520 here and do you have a few minutes we can 1700 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,600 move on from The timberwolves Because i'm trying to Trade 1701 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,079 Rudy gobert. Everywhere The, Clippers i'm ready to say some 1702 01:16:48,119 --> 01:16:50,399 pretty inflammatory things about them after you take us through 1703 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,000 what they've done so. 1704 01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:55,159 Speaker 3: Far transaction number one Resigned James harden for two years 1705 01:16:55,159 --> 01:16:56,800 in eighty one and a half million. Dollars that second 1706 01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,039 year is of player. Option also Signed Brook. Lopez didn't really. 1707 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,640 Speaker 2: Have that on our bingo. CARD i, mean maybe disgusted in. 1708 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,159 Speaker 3: Passing he's gonna back up and beats The zubats two, 1709 01:17:06,199 --> 01:17:09,119 years eighteen. Million that's part of the non tax mid. 1710 01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:12,199 Level also Brought Nick batomb back two years eleven point seven. 1711 01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,560 Million that is also a team option on the second. 1712 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,840 Year that's After batum opted, out but that was a 1713 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,600 fat a company that he was coming. Back i'm gonna 1714 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,600 guess you're big on The clippers, Offseason dan big, positive 1715 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:25,399 lots of thumbs. 1716 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: Up this is just like it doesn't they still feel 1717 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,000 like they need another passer on this, team but like 1718 01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:35,479 Brook lopez is just your backup. Center, now that's, insane pretty, 1719 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,279 good that's insane like, that you know in certain, matchups 1720 01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:40,199 it's just like it doesn't because If eachuzubas doesn't get 1721 01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:43,079 played off the floor defensively and Now Brook, lopez you 1722 01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:45,600 can't play him off the floor offensively because of the 1723 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,319 stretch he. Provides they're, deep and it's just like there 1724 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,000 the problem is is that they're one Like James harden 1725 01:17:53,119 --> 01:17:55,399 rolled ankle. AWAY i think for maybe being a lottery, 1726 01:17:55,399 --> 01:17:57,479 team you have enough, depth especially on the defense end 1727 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,520 where maybe you cobble together just sort of you know 1728 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,760 those like Pre Superstar, clippers that Pre Superstar clippers team 1729 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,840 where they were just scrappy as. Hell so that's something 1730 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,199 they need to look. At and we've seen a bunch 1731 01:18:08,199 --> 01:18:10,920 of those names come off the. BOARD i will, say 1732 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,239 if he could stomach playing With James harden again like 1733 01:18:13,279 --> 01:18:15,359 A cp, three like coming over here like kind of 1734 01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:17,600 makes a lot of, Sense like how badly does he's 1735 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,920 not really a point? Guard that was and, say what 1736 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,159 Is Trey man's market at the Moment Malcolm brock didn't 1737 01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:23,720 know of The. Clippers now feels like the biggest no 1738 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,760 Brainer that was my prediction was that he would finally 1739 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,840 end up on The. Clippers uh just the brooklyp has 1740 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,439 didn't even cash you the entire mL. E i know he's, 1741 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:32,760 old but damn. 1742 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,359 Speaker 3: No that that's that's one of the better value signings 1743 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,279 that we've seen so. FAR i, think like and, REALLY 1744 01:18:39,079 --> 01:18:41,520 i know when we talked about like what would you, 1745 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,319 like we agreed The, clippers among other, things could use 1746 01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:46,960 a backup big AND i was, LIKE i kind of 1747 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,840 want like someone that's gonna give you a little different 1748 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,079 dimension From, zubots like maybe some STRETCH i was thinking 1749 01:18:52,119 --> 01:18:55,119 of like The bouchet, model but like to Get lopez 1750 01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:57,800 who will provide that. Stretch but just LIKE i don't, 1751 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,399 KNOW i, mean, Yeah zubots is a better defense center 1752 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,399 or was last year But Brook lopez was one of 1753 01:19:02,399 --> 01:19:04,439 the best defensive players in the league full stop for 1754 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,520 a really long. Time, like so you're giving zero back 1755 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,279 defensively with, him especially against backups, only and you're getting 1756 01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:14,119 that stretch LIKE I i, Mean I'M i think you 1757 01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:17,159 could really get up to some stuff With Harden Kawhi, 1758 01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:18,680 Lopez like you're spacing the. 1759 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,119 Speaker 2: Floor Norm powell's out, there LIKE i it's pretty. 1760 01:19:22,119 --> 01:19:24,239 Speaker 3: Interest they could have some pretty interesting looks, HERE i 1761 01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,560 think With lopez and at, that at that price, point 1762 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,079 it's just, like, CLEARLY i have to believe he picked 1763 01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:34,520 The clippers over teams offering more. Money somebody had to 1764 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,159 go full mid level for. Him i'd be stunned if 1765 01:19:37,159 --> 01:19:37,800 that wasn't. 1766 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,600 Speaker 1: TRUE I glasgow cracked, it that's. 1767 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:47,039 Speaker 2: It Robin lopez did it For orlando so, easy. 1768 01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: PEASY i feel LIKE i want this team to just 1769 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,319 go out and trade For Kobe white right. NOW i. 1770 01:19:54,359 --> 01:19:56,319 WOULD i don't know IF i would pick them to 1771 01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:58,159 win the title because, okay see, exists BUT i would 1772 01:19:58,159 --> 01:19:59,960 certainly pick them to be in The Western conference finals 1773 01:20:00,039 --> 01:20:02,039 if they went out like they are so well balanced 1774 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,399 and deep right, now it just feels like they're uh 1775 01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:06,920 it doesn't even need to Be Kobe. White but it 1776 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,479 just feels like if they Signed Malcolm, BROGDON i just 1777 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,239 might be, Like, okay there's a lot of guys with 1778 01:20:12,279 --> 01:20:14,520 health issues, here but you're gonna cobble together an eight 1779 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,279 to nine man rotation on any single given. 1780 01:20:16,359 --> 01:20:19,319 Speaker 2: Night Cole anthony on the bio, market how about? That 1781 01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:19,600 that'd be. 1782 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 1: Fun you think he's a good enough? Passer probably. NOT 1783 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,560 i was BEING i, mean it's a genuine. Question if 1784 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,000 you said, YES i would trust you. 1785 01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:28,600 Speaker 3: Genuinely, NO i don't think that's really what he's what 1786 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:29,600 he's out there to do so. 1787 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,399 Speaker 2: Much, yeah great offseason for The. Clippers just WHAT i 1788 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,640 can't get over the value For lopez. 1789 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,039 Speaker 1: And they were a team like If pelicans fans want 1790 01:20:38,039 --> 01:20:41,840 to latch onto. Something grant AND i destroyed The clippers 1791 01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:45,920 last offseason and that did not age like all. 1792 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,560 Speaker 2: That, well BUT i don't remember any of. 1793 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,359 Speaker 1: That, yeah, me Neither. Gold we call our next team 1794 01:20:50,359 --> 01:20:52,880 The bucks. Are, look they're up to some shenanigans AND 1795 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,079 i would like To league office to go and investigate. Them. 1796 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,640 Now they're going to an awful lot of trouble to 1797 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,640 maybe keep like Overpay Gary Trent junior to prints at some. 1798 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,239 Point but so they re Signed Bobby portis for three 1799 01:21:04,279 --> 01:21:06,159 years and forty four million after you declined his player. 1800 01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:08,479 OPTION i think that deals largely, fine especially if you 1801 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,840 Lose Brook. Lopez you need like the other big next To, 1802 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,319 giannis and as of right, now like unless they're really 1803 01:21:14,319 --> 01:21:18,279 in love With Jericho, simms you're probably gonna need uh 1804 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,720 Like giannis to play. Center Resign Gary Trent. Junior so 1805 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,439 here's here's where The shenanigans are coming. In Gary Trent 1806 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,560 junior gets two years and seven point five, million with 1807 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,199 a player option on the second. Year tory And prince 1808 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,439 got basically the same deal with a player option on 1809 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,279 the second. Year they did Resign Kevin Porter junior two 1810 01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:37,399 years and eleven. MILLION i didn't put it up on 1811 01:21:37,399 --> 01:21:40,079 screen because, again this is Just i'm frazzled at The 1812 01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:41,199 like tonight you. 1813 01:21:41,159 --> 01:21:43,520 Speaker 2: Put buck, on you'll. Everybody everybody knows the bi annuals 1814 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,920 five and a half, million, right that's. 1815 01:21:45,159 --> 01:21:47,319 Speaker 1: But the problem is the math isn't mathing on, that 1816 01:21:47,399 --> 01:21:49,239 BECAUSE i think this is like reporting where, it's oh 1817 01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,760 it's eleven million. Dollars i'm pretty sure the bi annuals 1818 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,760 less than that over two. Years but maybe Maybe i'm. 1819 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,000 Wrong i'm wrong all the. Time what The bucks are 1820 01:21:56,039 --> 01:22:01,000 clearly doing here is they're Signing Gary Trent junior And 1821 01:22:01,119 --> 01:22:03,439 Torrian princes with the intention of you guys can opt 1822 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,399 out next year and we'll have her early bird, rights 1823 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,800 at which point they can give them a lot more. 1824 01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:11,479 Money and it's like we saw The clippers do this 1825 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,239 With nick patom AND i don't think they got like 1826 01:22:14,079 --> 01:22:17,119 fined or anything like doc to, pick but, like this 1827 01:22:17,279 --> 01:22:20,439 is so. Egregious you Sold gianness on a gap, Year 1828 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,319 like that's been the messaging out. There you did this 1829 01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:25,079 with two. Players now you can't tell Me Gary Trent 1830 01:22:25,159 --> 01:22:27,479 junior didn't have more money on the, market and is 1831 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,279 he coming back like they said they play me a 1832 01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:32,680 point guard Because Damian lillard's. Injured this IS i first of, 1833 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,439 ALL i want to make, clear good, Job, milwaukee this is, 1834 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,920 smart this is super. Smart BUT i as A, tattletale 1835 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,399 as a Resident, Tattletale i'd Like Adam silver to investigate this. 1836 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,680 Immediately BUT i also questioned The bucks's logic to where, 1837 01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:48,319 okay like how much are you planning on? Paying like 1838 01:22:48,359 --> 01:22:51,520 it's a percentage of above the average annual, salary but 1839 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,399 the average annual salary grant next, SEAS i think it's 1840 01:22:53,399 --> 01:22:55,560 gonna be like fifteen million. Bucks so it's LIKE i 1841 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,439 don't need to see A Gary Trent junior like four, 1842 01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,920 year eighty million dollar deal on THE. 1843 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 3: I would just like to put on the record that 1844 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:10,079 the views expressed by my co hosts alleging, conspiracy, conspiracy 1845 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,960 blatant flouting of the collective bargaining agreement are are his. 1846 01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:18,680 VIEWS i believe The Milwaukee bucks are acting on the 1847 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,560 up and, up and That Gary Trent, junior who's one 1848 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,319 of the better three point shooters in the, league in, 1849 01:23:23,319 --> 01:23:26,479 fact did not have offers out there of paying him 1850 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,159 more than like three point what seven million dollars a. 1851 01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:34,359 Year this is all perfectly above, board AND i just 1852 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:41,359 really want to distance myself from this opinion as much as. Possible, well, uh, yeah, 1853 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:42,760 no this feels a Little Sanani. 1854 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 2: GUINEY i think you're. 1855 01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 3: Right it does happen Before batoom is the is the 1856 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:53,159 off sided. Example moving away from, that how do you 1857 01:23:53,239 --> 01:23:55,439 feel just about the idea. 1858 01:23:55,239 --> 01:24:02,279 Speaker 2: Of, like So yannis is gonna? STAY i guess because 1859 01:24:02,279 --> 01:24:05,680 he hasn't left, Yet and How we've just got tumbleweeds 1860 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,800 blown around on the on on that, front and the 1861 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,920 deal is we're gonna just bring back the roster that 1862 01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:16,119 wasn't good enough last, year like, actually and also Lose 1863 01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:19,039 Brook lopez and also not Have Damian lillard at. All, 1864 01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:22,039 like how are we how are we feeling. 1865 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 3: About the logic overall of the bucks relative To giannis 1866 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,359 at this, Point, Dan, like BECAUSE. 1867 01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:30,399 Speaker 1: I GOT i got some. QUESTIONS i DON'T i honestly 1868 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:35,000 don't understand how they're peddling this gap. Year i'm not 1869 01:24:35,039 --> 01:24:38,039 even saying that they should trade. Him i'm of the 1870 01:24:38,119 --> 01:24:41,000 mind that you don't trade someone Like, giannis especially when 1871 01:24:41,039 --> 01:24:43,680 you don't control your own draft until twenty thirty one 1872 01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:46,720 until he asks for. It But i'm just curious as 1873 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,600 to what are the merits of, This like what is 1874 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,880 it actually gaining you by the, End is, That, okay 1875 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,840 we've now Kept, Gary Trent junior And Tory, prince so 1876 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,439 we can overpay them next. Summer Bobby Porters junior's coming. 1877 01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,079 Back we got out of The Brook lopez. Business and 1878 01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:02,199 you could, say, well he was aging the deal he 1879 01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:03,960 signed wasn't gonna set you, Back like if he was 1880 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,000 willing to take the same money that wasn't gonna set you, 1881 01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:08,960 back but clearly he wanted to. Contend it seems like 1882 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,079 and The bucks aren't shaping they Have jos not shaping 1883 01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:13,880 up to do. That it feels like what The bucks 1884 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,800 are saying here is this is maybe it's a gap 1885 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,239 year of development And Ryan rollins pops And Andre jackson. 1886 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,239 Pops but it's, Basically, oh we're gonna go through this, 1887 01:25:23,319 --> 01:25:26,119 season at which point we will have the first round 1888 01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,880 pick that we're using next, year plus twenty thirty one 1889 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,600 and twenty thirty three to trade on top of this 1890 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,319 massive expiring contract From Damian. Lillard let's go see who 1891 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,760 or what that could get. US i guess that's a 1892 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,640 fair gamble to. Take BUT i don't, LIKE i don't. 1893 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,359 Know this is Just i'm excited to see Point, like 1894 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,319 Is gianna's gonna be point center at some point next? 1895 01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:51,560 Speaker 2: Year? RIGHT i mean other than UNLESS kpj is gonna 1896 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,960 play point guard for forty minutes a, NIGHT i, mean, 1897 01:25:54,039 --> 01:25:55,319 yeah who else is gonna do? 1898 01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: IT i don't know a Mass can you tell? 1899 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,399 Speaker 2: ME i told? You, uh, yeah, LOOK i, KNOW I 1900 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,800 i GUESS i agree That yannis is of the caliber 1901 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,039 that you just don't do anything until he asks you 1902 01:26:08,119 --> 01:26:09,640 to in terms of trading. 1903 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,560 Speaker 1: Him but like. 1904 01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 3: There must have been a conversation where The bucks go 1905 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,199 to him and say, like, hey we're not gonna be any, 1906 01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:19,000 good are you? 1907 01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Cool like this is. 1908 01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:20,520 Speaker 1: This what you? 1909 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,119 Speaker 3: Want because because we need to pivot and do some 1910 01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,520 other stuff and if, if if we if we do 1911 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,960 this and by THIS i mean the transactions that are 1912 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,039 on the screen bringing back the same, Guys like we're 1913 01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:34,319 kind of gonna just be down a path that's gonna 1914 01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:36,840 be like not just one, year but this is gonna 1915 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,920 be a, While like we you're gonna have to really 1916 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,640 if you're, in you're gonna be in and waiting for 1917 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,359 a lot longer than you might be comfortable. 1918 01:26:43,359 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 2: With and even, then nothing's. 1919 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,119 Speaker 3: Guaranteed LIKE i don't, know it's almost like you're you're 1920 01:26:47,359 --> 01:26:50,760 sort of asking him to ask you to be traded 1921 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,079 at some point as The, bucks and maybe that's just 1922 01:26:53,159 --> 01:26:55,439 maybe it's just better to have the superstar and be 1923 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,079 a one team guy and never. 1924 01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:01,159 Speaker 2: Leave BUT i don't, know, Man like it's just at. 1925 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,680 Speaker 3: Some point and we're past, It like The bucks window, 1926 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,960 closed like and if it, reopens it's gonna be a 1927 01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:06,920 while from. 1928 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:12,199 Speaker 1: NOW i, Guess but like if they could get someone 1929 01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:14,640 trading all that stuff next, year wouldn't that technically then 1930 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,479 make it all worth it because you bought yourself at 1931 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,279 least two more years with gianness this coming, season and 1932 01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:21,720 then you have to give. It you have to give them, 1933 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,359 credit like their their vision's clearly working BECAUSE i Think 1934 01:27:25,359 --> 01:27:28,720 giannis is, loyalty like the emotional. COMPONENT i truly believe 1935 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,159 that that's played a bigger role than they're, telling like 1936 01:27:31,279 --> 01:27:34,800 how many assists you could average without damium or look 1937 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,079 at What Ryan rollins could turn. Into but like With 1938 01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:39,439 Gary Trent junior And Tory, princes they're probably selling them 1939 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,079 on the possibility of like like LET'S i won't even 1940 01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:45,560 joke about, it like, yeah the possibility of them opting 1941 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,479 out and then they're gonna come back using early bird 1942 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,920 rights definitely on the table. Now but they could also, Say, 1943 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,840 hey if we pivoted in a different direction With dame, 1944 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,840 down you guys are gonna have huge roles and you're 1945 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,720 gonna be able to inflate your market value to where 1946 01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,840 you could then get your payday next summer when there'll 1947 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:03,760 be more cap spaceloading. Around that's probably most valuable when 1948 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,319 it comes To Gary Trent junior, Specifically so you have 1949 01:28:07,359 --> 01:28:09,880 to give them kudos at least for. THIS i just don't, 1950 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,479 Know Like i'm fine with everything they've done so. Far 1951 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,720 but it's all, right you lost Brookl like there needs 1952 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,479 to be another big, here right were they one of 1953 01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:23,279 the teams that Contacted Al? HORFORD i mean, So i'm 1954 01:28:23,359 --> 01:28:25,479 just they still have the mid, level, right like they 1955 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,399 could use the full mid. LEVEL i don't. Know we 1956 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,279 have to wait and, see BUT i don't, HONESTLY i 1957 01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:31,520 don't know how to feel with The bucks BECAUSE i 1958 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,720 agree with everything you said where the window feels. Closed 1959 01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:36,520 but if they actually believe, that because these teams have 1960 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,880 more information than we, do there'll be players that want 1961 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,119 to team up With. Giannis but if you're, so if 1962 01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,239 you think that that package is going to actually get you, 1963 01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:47,199 someone BUT i think that leads you back into the 1964 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,159 what did we talk about with The. Lakers you're never 1965 01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:54,159 gonna have the best package for, anybody even when you 1966 01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:55,800 put everything on the. Table and if you're selling the 1967 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,159 cap space stream that's a twenty twenty seven, thing that's 1968 01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:00,760 not a twenty twenty six thing for The. 1969 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 2: BUCKS i, GUESS i guess i'd, say and maybe we're 1970 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,920 both kind of circling this. Idea LIKE i don't know 1971 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:11,760 that we agree that this is the best like overall 1972 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,520 path for The bucks to be, taking but given that 1973 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,800 this is the one that they're they've, chosen these moves 1974 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,399 are all like pretty good or very good in that, 1975 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,880 context you, know like we don't agree with the. Vision 1976 01:29:23,319 --> 01:29:26,880 uh not to get back To, nico but like for 1977 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,520 what it, is this is about as well as you 1978 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,159 can execute. It and and maybe that's, disappointing but but 1979 01:29:31,399 --> 01:29:31,960 it is what it. 1980 01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Is, yeah you're trying to make me emotional, again have 1981 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,600 a temper tanswer by mentioning the eco's. Name our next 1982 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,640 team up is The Sacramento. Kings do you want to take? 1983 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:43,720 Us do you want to take? 1984 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Us they're signing FOR i don't. Know we don't have 1985 01:29:49,039 --> 01:29:49,800 any details on. 1986 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,039 Speaker 3: THAT i THOUGHT i had seen two years and at 1987 01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:54,880 like mid level, money BUT i couldn't find that. 1988 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:59,199 Speaker 1: Report so, aggregators any anyone who writes for a website 1989 01:29:59,279 --> 01:30:01,319 or their own, Blog i'd like you to aggregate With 1990 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:02,560 Grant Grant hughes. 1991 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,399 Speaker 2: Reports uh huh that one time get somewhere he saw 1992 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,920 or thought he saw but was probably. Wrong the terms 1993 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:10,600 of The dentistrutar. 1994 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,039 Speaker 3: Deal they also picked up the two point three million 1995 01:30:13,039 --> 01:30:15,239 dollar team option On Keon. Ellis they picked up the 1996 01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:17,640 two million dollar team option On Isaac. Jones Jake lavia 1997 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,760 gone two, years twelve million to The. Lakers, uh Let's Keon. 1998 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,079 Ellis we hadn't really discussed. This this was a situation 1999 01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:28,640 where declining it and sending him into restricted free agency 2000 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,119 was on the, table but they picked it, up so 2001 01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:31,800 he'll be unrestricted following this. 2002 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,039 Speaker 2: SEASON i. BELIEVE i don't think that was the right, Decision, 2003 01:30:36,119 --> 01:30:40,199 dan but it's The, king so so what are you gonna? 2004 01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:43,880 Speaker 3: Do shrewder makes sense for, them they especially if it 2005 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,680 is at the mid level. MONEY i thought THAT i. 2006 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,560 Saw they do need a point. GUARD i, mean this 2007 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,199 is tenth tenth. Team he's really bounced around a lot 2008 01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:57,279 the last couple of. Years BUT i think he's fine. 2009 01:30:57,319 --> 01:31:00,319 THERE i, just you, know pardon me for being a 2010 01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:02,039 little uninspired overall by The kings. 2011 01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:06,319 Speaker 1: Offseason can't they they can still Extend Kean? 2012 01:31:06,399 --> 01:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Ellis though maybe maybe they. CAN i, WAS i, WAS 2013 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:13,560 i was maybe unfairly framing it as just restricted versus. 2014 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,199 Speaker 1: Unrestricted that feels safer because he now he can just 2015 01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:19,560 bet on. Himself you've given him the option of you 2016 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,239 don't like of relinquishing team. Control SO i get where 2017 01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:24,920 you're coming, from but it does FEEL i do feel 2018 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,840 like what this means is that they were planning on 2019 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,760 being a little bit more aggressive and making up so Denis. 2020 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,560 Shrewder but it's, Like, okay what else is happening here 2021 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,119 they've been linked? To this makes no sense to me 2022 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,000 as A jonathan kminga. Team can you rationalize that to 2023 01:31:38,039 --> 01:31:38,479 me at? All? 2024 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,119 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely he plays for The. Warriors The kings are 2025 01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,640 still very into those those. TIES i, mean that's just 2026 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:45,439 that's just how it's. 2027 01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:47,239 Speaker 1: A Is Mike brown coming back or is it like 2028 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,039 they give him a good reference for the nixt? Job? 2029 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, NO I I i don't know what The kings 2030 01:31:54,079 --> 01:31:58,479 are doing and they like, AGAIN i don't have an 2031 01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,520 issue With shrewder at this. Number it's a position of 2032 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,520 need for, them but it's it's just not gonna it's 2033 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:03,600 not gonna inspire anything. 2034 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,079 Speaker 2: Great do you have anything else on The? Kings i'm 2035 01:32:05,079 --> 01:32:05,680 not SURE i really. 2036 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,399 Speaker 1: Do uh what do you view as their actual biggest 2037 01:32:08,399 --> 01:32:11,079 need if if like uh if. 2038 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 2: That two way, Players, uh they. Don't they don't have 2039 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,039 a whole lot of. THOSE i mean they. 2040 01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 1: Did The lakers Offer Jake larrabia just, enough uh to 2041 01:32:21,399 --> 01:32:24,680 like that The kings couldn't Resign Jake laarravia because the team, option. 2042 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,520 Speaker 2: Well they declined the team, options so they were limited. 2043 01:32:27,119 --> 01:32:30,159 Speaker 1: To five point five point two. Million so, yeah The 2044 01:32:30,199 --> 01:32:33,359 lakers gave him. Justice, HONESTLY i fave that that's the 2045 01:32:33,399 --> 01:32:34,680 type Of shenanatians That i'm here. 2046 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,159 Speaker 3: FOR i, like, yeah love very, petty enjoy. IT i 2047 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,159 mean you have Not oh, sorry go, Ahead, NO i 2048 01:32:41,239 --> 01:32:42,720 was just go. AHEAD i was just gonna say Some 2049 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:43,239 Lil rabia. 2050 01:32:43,359 --> 01:32:47,359 Speaker 1: Things, uh, well say More larrabia. Things talk La ravia to. 2051 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,479 Speaker 3: ME I i Think Laavia, LIKE i don't know that 2052 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,199 it's it's a shame THAT i, mean it wasn't The king's, problem, 2053 01:32:54,319 --> 01:32:56,680 right because it was The grizzlies ultimately or initially that 2054 01:32:57,119 --> 01:32:59,600 decline that that fourth year, option, right and that just 2055 01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,079 kind of followed him to The. 2056 01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:01,880 Speaker 2: Kings DO i have that? 2057 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,199 Speaker 3: Right, so, like it's too bad that he kind of 2058 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:07,279 looked pretty good and you could really see him being 2059 01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:10,640 a rotation guy. There but, sorry he just that's that 2060 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,960 actually does. Suck, yeah there's a ceiling on what they 2061 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,600 could offer. Him i'm sure they would have been happy 2062 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:15,319 to pay more if they. 2063 01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:18,159 Speaker 1: COULD i haven't asked you about this, yet and it. 2064 01:33:18,199 --> 01:33:20,239 HASN'T i assumed he was gonna maybe get, one but 2065 01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:23,479 perhaps not The key And murray. Extension he's extension. Eligible 2066 01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:26,840 what do you see like his value coming in AT 2067 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,880 i think a lot of the like, inflact the like 2068 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,720 comparison points have Been jade, McDaniels Trey, murphy which probably feels. 2069 01:33:35,279 --> 01:33:37,720 FAIR i think he probably gets so i'll Throw i'll 2070 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,560 thrown over under here twenty five and a half million 2071 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,159 per year on average and an. Extensionary would you take 2072 01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:45,119 the over the under on? That And i'll note That 2073 01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:47,600 jaden And Trey murphy both got, LESS i. 2074 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,199 Speaker 3: Believe, yeah BUT i and The murphy deal we thought 2075 01:33:51,239 --> 01:33:54,319 was pretty, fantastic and the and the well we've The jaden, 2076 01:33:54,399 --> 01:33:56,920 mcdeal McDaniel seel was long enough ago that maybe some 2077 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,479 of the numbers are. DIFFERENT I i THINK i would go, 2078 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:06,279 over BUT i would say it is concerning that like 2079 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,319 just because of the construction of the. 2080 01:34:08,359 --> 01:34:13,119 Speaker 2: Team you've never really Had murray in a position where 2081 01:34:13,119 --> 01:34:14,680 he could prove that he. 2082 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,399 Speaker 3: Was willing to be a higher volume offensive, guy BECAUSE 2083 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,279 i suspect that's not quite in. Him but he's just 2084 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,520 the way The kings have put teams, together you've never 2085 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,079 really known for sure if maybe there's more there on, 2086 01:34:25,159 --> 01:34:28,119 offense then, yeah it's just a situational, thing and that's 2087 01:34:28,119 --> 01:34:31,079 why he hasn't been you, KNOW i don't know getting 2088 01:34:31,159 --> 01:34:33,359 up more, SHOTS i, guess just to really simplify, it 2089 01:34:34,039 --> 01:34:36,439 BUT i think that's a fair you, know twenty five 2090 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,920 ish is more than fair for a guy who improved 2091 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,720 a ton. Defensively has you know, what he set the 2092 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,359 rookie record for. Threes he's kind of had like some 2093 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,199 ups and downs and back and forth with his offense and. 2094 01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:50,600 Defense but that's that's right in the fair. RANGE i 2095 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,920 go a little. OVER i, think what about? 2096 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,920 Speaker 2: You you set the number out you THINK i. 2097 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,560 Speaker 1: THINK i would go over. TOO i know there's been 2098 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,199 a lot of concerns about his, offense BUT i just 2099 01:34:57,239 --> 01:35:00,000 think that the ground around him has shifted so much 2100 01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:01,000 over the past couple of. 2101 01:35:01,039 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 3: Years it's really hard to judge, anybody especially LIKE. A 2102 01:35:04,079 --> 01:35:06,079 i mean he is kind of a he's a he's 2103 01:35:06,119 --> 01:35:07,159 a high end roll. 2104 01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 2: Guy it's hard to judge those types of players in 2105 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,119 like funky offense only you know. 2106 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 1: Teams uh, so, YEAH i go over as. Well BUT 2107 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,119 i think The king's like they need some type of consolidation, 2108 01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:20,760 trailer like they need a they need a second best 2109 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,439 player or a third. Best but because Like levine's really. 2110 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:27,760 Good but, MAN i don't, know this is such a 2111 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,279 weird situation for The king because The Dennis shrewder is 2112 01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:34,319 your point. Guard like there's A Molik, Monk Devin, Carter Levine, 2113 01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,960 DeRozan can all do stuff that they Gotta that's too many, 2114 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,359 guards that's just Too like who do you trust among 2115 01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:41,439 those guys to play the? Wing Probably Devin carter the, 2116 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,000 most just because of what he does. Defensively, YEAH i 2117 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,800 mean he's just the. 2118 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,880 Speaker 2: Offense the over indexing on offense is and has just 2119 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:49,800 been a problem there for a. 2120 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 1: WHILE bj imagine taking a point guard after drafting four 2121 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,279 in the first round in the last eight. Years damn 2122 01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:59,239 imagine cominga With Levine DeRozan and some bonus From Mike. 2123 01:35:59,239 --> 01:36:02,399 Glasgow one of those guys would Have, well, no, no 2124 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,680 they can't the base your? Compensation how does that even? Work? 2125 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,880 Man if if The warriors end up with DeMar DeRozan 2126 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,560 is the only one who might fit into like a 2127 01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:12,600 perspective trade with The, warriors would that would that get you? 2128 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,279 Giddy or would you just Prefer josh? 2129 01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:19,720 Speaker 2: GIDDY i WOULD i would pass on both of just 2130 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,079 rather like k minga. WALK i don't want To Marta 2131 01:36:22,199 --> 01:36:23,399 rosen on The. Warriors are you kidding? 2132 01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:23,479 Speaker 1: Me? 2133 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:24,039 Speaker 2: No? 2134 01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Way next team? UP i think we're getting close to 2135 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,760 like the lightning round. Here OKAYH i Have i've got 2136 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,159 words to, say AND i should like tweet this out 2137 01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:36,760 and promote it so that anyone who's actually mad at 2138 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,520 me can come in and defend their. Case but if 2139 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,039 you're A pelicans fan and you want to justify your 2140 01:36:41,079 --> 01:36:43,479 case in the comments after the, FACT i will read, 2141 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,000 them and if you're not a tool or, RUDE i 2142 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,960 will respond to. Them this is not The Kavan looney 2143 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,199 two years and sixteen. Million. 2144 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,600 Speaker 3: Fine, Tread tread, Carefully tread. Carefully you're talking about a. 2145 01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 2: Legend, yeah when's? 2146 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,319 Speaker 1: This you gonna be Outside Chase center or won't be At? Oracle? 2147 01:37:02,359 --> 01:37:06,960 Oh here's my. Thing this is just this is another all, 2148 01:37:07,039 --> 01:37:10,000 Right so we're not gonna have any floor spacing in 2149 01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:12,399 the front court alongside a team that Has Zion williamson 2150 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,359 And Derek, queen and we're determined to have as many 2151 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,399 like undersize CENTERS i guess as. Possible at this, point 2152 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,720 size doesn't. MATTER i get that this is just an 2153 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,640 extension of here's here's the tweet that got me in. 2154 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,000 TROUBLE i thought it was clear that it was a, 2155 01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:27,720 joke but someone told, me uh WHEN i didn't respond 2156 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,479 to it was like they told me to go guzzle 2157 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:33,279 gas or something like. THAT i, Said Joe dumars And 2158 01:37:33,319 --> 01:37:37,439 Troy weaver are running The pelicans like THEIR nba league office, 2159 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,800 plants trying to ruin the franchise so they get extricated 2160 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,279 to another. Market this is, like this is one of 2161 01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:48,479 the all time dumb off Seasons i've ever. SEEN i 2162 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,600 don't care What Derek queen turns. Into and they did 2163 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,000 decline team, options by the, way On Alfred. Payton that's, 2164 01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:56,079 honestly that's What i'm mad. About how do you Decline 2165 01:37:56,079 --> 01:37:59,039 Alford payton's team. Option they also declined The Brandon boston 2166 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,560 team option? Grant what is have you tried to? Stop 2167 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,199 and first of, ALL i feel bad For Kevon loony 2168 01:38:06,279 --> 01:38:08,279 for maybe being into like The bulls and The kings, 2169 01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:11,159 Exist And i'm like not entirely unsure that this isn't 2170 01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:14,760 the worst run organization at the, Moment LIKE I i 2171 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,000 don't understand what The pelicans vision, Is like you. Can't 2172 01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:20,560 we just went through the teams in The Western. Conference, 2173 01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,439 like if you were prepared to this Is pelicans fans 2174 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,359 can talk themselves into they're gonna be a top six 2175 01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:29,960 team next. Year If Zion williamson plays in eighty two, 2176 01:38:30,079 --> 01:38:32,960 games there is still a pretty good chance that that doesn't, 2177 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,039 Happen like that is on the, Table deeantaymurray's recovering From achilles', 2178 01:38:37,079 --> 01:38:39,760 injury when he's gonna come. Back i've seen people talking 2179 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,000 about how Like Jordan poole being there to sort of like. 2180 01:38:43,079 --> 01:38:46,039 MENTOR i Think Brandon Boston junior was one of, them 2181 01:38:46,039 --> 01:38:47,520 and like now he's just off the team as of, 2182 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,560 now what is have You i've actually sat, There i've read. 2183 01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:53,520 Comments most of them have been negative towards what you 2184 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,319 AND i said when we did The pelicans offseason Look 2185 01:38:55,319 --> 01:38:59,520 ahead there's either they're just. Insults there's never an actual 2186 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,039 case made other than you don't know, ball or look 2187 01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:04,720 at how many Points Jordan poole just, averaged or we 2188 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,680 Have zion Or Joe dumars is determined to make us. Better, 2189 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,159 YEAH i Want Jordan poole Mentoring Jeremiah. FEARS i want 2190 01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:14,359 them to have the same exact shot. SELECTION i don't want. 2191 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:20,560 Speaker 2: That roberts says That zion plays in eighty two. Games 2192 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:21,159 i'll Eat Joe. 2193 01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 3: Dumars that's just unhinged, enough AND i knew that would get. 2194 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 2: You, Look i'm gonna jump. IN i will not SAY 2195 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,079 i will, Good i'll take. Over it's a team. EFFORT 2196 01:39:36,079 --> 01:39:37,760 i will not say a bad word About Kevon. 2197 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,840 Speaker 3: Looney i'm ecstatic that he got two years and sixteen million. 2198 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,680 Dollars he is a, legend he is a champion three times. 2199 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,359 Over he is a good locker room. INFLUENCE i don't 2200 01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:50,880 think he would have had more than minimum offers from 2201 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:51,760 any other team in the. 2202 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,920 Speaker 2: League, like maybe you never know. 2203 01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:01,920 Speaker 3: That this signing stacked on top of The draft night 2204 01:40:02,039 --> 01:40:06,920 trade THAT i Think i'm comfortable saying was as universally 2205 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,640 panned as any TRADE i can remember in the last 2206 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:16,000 like you have to go. Back the social media environment 2207 01:40:16,039 --> 01:40:18,760 was a little different at this. Point but like The 2208 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,479 kings attaching a first to dump a bunch of salary 2209 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,960 so they could Get Rejon rondo and somebody, Else like 2210 01:40:26,039 --> 01:40:29,800 that's what you're comparing this. To AND i think the 2211 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,960 downside of This draft night, trade which exposes the possibility 2212 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,600 of losing a high lottery, pick who knows how high 2213 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,399 it might, be removing the incentive to tank for a 2214 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,720 team that fell apart because of, injuries and like maybe 2215 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,119 normally you would, say, well that's just. Luck this team 2216 01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:49,479 Has Zion williamson and is built around, him so you 2217 01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:50,359 don't get to say it's. 2218 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 2: Luck it's the. Pattern, now the downside of giving up 2219 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:54,800 that pick is difficult to. 2220 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 3: Overstate so maybe if that hadn't, HAPPENED i would be 2221 01:40:59,159 --> 01:41:01,039 just more amenable to, like, yeah you know, what you're 2222 01:41:01,039 --> 01:41:04,039 paying a premium for a guy with championship experience to 2223 01:41:04,039 --> 01:41:05,680 come into a locker room that maybe needs some. 2224 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,000 Speaker 2: Adults got it? 2225 01:41:08,199 --> 01:41:08,319 Speaker 1: That? 2226 01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,039 Speaker 2: Okay slightly maybe. 2227 01:41:10,079 --> 01:41:13,199 Speaker 3: Defensible we don't know if the second year is non 2228 01:41:13,239 --> 01:41:16,640 guaranteed or something like. That even if it, WERE i 2229 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,119 still think you could have gotten loony for. Less the 2230 01:41:20,199 --> 01:41:23,439 sum of it all is, like if you are A 2231 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,319 pelicans fan and can defend all of, THIS i would 2232 01:41:27,359 --> 01:41:30,560 love to hear like the rational. Justification i'm just saying 2233 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,600 what you're, saying because Like Joe dumars is not someone 2234 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,920 that was has been regarded as a GOOD nba team, 2235 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,479 builder like since he had something to do with The 2236 01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,279 pistons twenty plus years, ago and really ever since then 2237 01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:47,800 has kind of been cited as a guy that doesn't 2238 01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,159 know how to do this job so. Good and now 2239 01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:54,880 you're seeing this with The. Pelicans it just feels like outdated, 2240 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,159 thinking like sort of the failure to value draft, assets 2241 01:41:59,239 --> 01:42:04,560 the failure to see the risks or like maybe not see, 2242 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,520 Them Like i'm sure if you trade a first rounder 2243 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,760 with the upside of the one The pelicans did that 2244 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,720 twenty sixth election To, atlanta you're aware of what could. 2245 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,439 Happen it's just like you're miscalculating. 2246 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,640 Speaker 2: The likelihood of. It it's highly likely that that pick is, 2247 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:22,239 valuable and SO i JUST I i'm just backing you. 2248 01:42:22,359 --> 01:42:25,199 Speaker 3: UP i don't read, comments and no one has come 2249 01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:27,880 at me From pelicans, them and if they, DO i 2250 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:28,800 probably won't see. 2251 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 1: It they, Have you just. Don't you just haven't read 2252 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:31,680 the comments on. 2253 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,600 Speaker 3: YouTube i don't, know AND i don't. Care they were 2254 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,159 on us for knocking them for what was their like 2255 01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:40,199 lucky three point defense two years ago or. 2256 01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:41,159 Speaker 2: Something how's that working? 2257 01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:44,399 Speaker 1: Out i've smashed The pelicans over the past like half, 2258 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,279 decade and they've just disappointed me every single. 2259 01:42:46,359 --> 01:42:50,600 Speaker 3: Year so you know, What, no The pelicans are operating 2260 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,600 like a dumb. Team if they're not a dumb, team 2261 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:53,680 they're doing a good impression of. 2262 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:54,399 Speaker 2: One maybe that's. 2263 01:42:54,399 --> 01:42:56,000 Speaker 1: It and you know, what the way that the search 2264 01:42:56,039 --> 01:42:58,800 For Joe dumars, unfolded like it'sn't even About Joe dumars, 2265 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,479 himself like that prove it? Then was just that was 2266 01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:05,439 an unserious. Search Willie green And zion were seemingly attached 2267 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,760 to whoever needed to be. Hired that's that's a terrible 2268 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,880 process This and you can say. That i'm not Saying 2269 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,399 David griffin did a fantastic job here. EITHER i don't 2270 01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,560 think he. Did but, like, man this is If i'm 2271 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,279 A pelicans, Fan i'm not rooting by my. Joke if 2272 01:43:18,319 --> 01:43:20,039 people THOUGHT i was, SERIOUS i don't want to see 2273 01:43:20,079 --> 01:43:22,479 any market lose their. TEAM i Want New orleans to 2274 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,920 stay AND i want The pelicans to stay In New. 2275 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,720 Orleans the fans deserve, it but like they also deserve 2276 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,039 a team that's run. Properly and that's just we're not 2277 01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:33,199 we're seeing here and THERE'S i don't even, know like 2278 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,800 what would be the scenario to wrap up here where 2279 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,760 you look back and, say, like how would we be 2280 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,640 wrong about criticizing this? Trade the trade and then this 2281 01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:44,119 is it's. 2282 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:46,600 Speaker 2: Wims rooie of The. 2283 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,920 Speaker 1: Year does that make us wrong, though like you Could, NO. 2284 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,079 Speaker 2: I mean we'd Be the result would make it seem 2285 01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:55,600 like we were. 2286 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,840 Speaker 3: Wrong, yeah we that would make us wrong because we're, 2287 01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,199 like it's it's not worth it to give up this. 2288 01:44:00,279 --> 01:44:02,720 Pick If Derek queen Wins rookie of The, year AND 2289 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,399 i guess also what would have to happen is The 2290 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,880 pelicans are good enough and The, bucks which they don't 2291 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,159 have any control, over are good enough to make that 2292 01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:12,560 pick not worth very. Much but even, then like the 2293 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:16,640 risk calculus as it exists today is just like, screaming 2294 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:17,199 don't do this. 2295 01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:21,520 Speaker 1: DEAL i HONESTLY i Don't Derek queen could Win rookie 2296 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,279 of The year that's great if he does it as 2297 01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:26,960 The pelicans the fourteen seed in The? West? Right? Cool? 2298 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,239 Final actually the final, question how many teams are you 2299 01:44:31,319 --> 01:44:34,920 prepared to guarantee in The west that The pelicans will 2300 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,000 be better than next? Season? 2301 01:44:37,039 --> 01:44:37,479 Speaker 2: Uh? 2302 01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,079 Speaker 1: Utah is? One? Right? 2303 01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:42,039 Speaker 2: Well, NO i, mean, yeah that's the only. ONE i 2304 01:44:42,039 --> 01:44:45,079 don't even. Know if, YEAH i GUESS i, would you'd 2305 01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:48,039 have to you'd have to say The jazz will be. 2306 01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:49,079 Worse after. 2307 01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:52,439 Speaker 3: That there's NOBODY i would say is guaranteed to be. 2308 01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:57,199 Worse stop it the pick a future, moment the pick 2309 01:44:57,239 --> 01:44:59,079 they gave up is going to be. Fourteenth, okay congrats 2310 01:44:59,119 --> 01:45:00,880 to The, pelicans like giving a lottery pick that you 2311 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,920 didn't have to give, Up like is that like if 2312 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,079 you Believe Derek queen's gonna be a superstar that would 2313 01:45:05,159 --> 01:45:06,640 end up being worth it in the, end but you 2314 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,359 can't tell. Me and like the some of the JUSTIFICATIONS i, 2315 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,920 use where, oh The pells apparently called teams like nine 2316 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,279 through twelve and offer them whatever it was like the 2317 01:45:15,319 --> 01:45:18,680 same deal and couldn't, Okay like so you couldn't get. 2318 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,199 Speaker 1: So you settled for a later. One LIKE I i 2319 01:45:21,359 --> 01:45:22,920 find it very hard to believe that you couldn't have 2320 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,319 done something else other than giving up an unprotected draft 2321 01:45:25,319 --> 01:45:28,760 pick to move up ten. Spots that is. Malpractice it's 2322 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:29,399 a tea you get to. 2323 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 2: Say, otherwise The pelicans won twenty one games like that pick, Fourteen, 2324 01:45:34,119 --> 01:45:35,560 yeah it could be, Fourteen it could be. 2325 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,640 Speaker 1: Won, like what is there an? Analog LIKE i didn't 2326 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,439 we didn't know about this to begin, with but, like 2327 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,920 when's the last time a team won under twenty five 2328 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,720 games and then proceeded to trade an unprotected first round 2329 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,920 pick like for the following. Season that's that's a that's a. 2330 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:53,840 Speaker 2: Research that's gonna be. 2331 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,199 Speaker 1: Like Some isaiah Thomas nicks level. Shit i'm sure that 2332 01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,520 at some, point right, yeah, yeah oh, Man, look if we're, 2333 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,840 wrong we'll end up being. Wrong But i'm we're not. 2334 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,159 Trying we're not piggybacking off what everybody else said. EITHER 2335 01:46:06,199 --> 01:46:08,760 i think everyone else is saying similar things because it's 2336 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,479 that obviously. Agregious that's Where that's Where i'm. At. Uh 2337 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,399 since The Deep bay come back The, bulls they haven't done. 2338 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,600 It The Josh guiney deal has not been announced, Yet, 2339 01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,960 grant do you want to take us through what they have? Done? 2340 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,800 Speaker 3: Though Trey jones three, years twenty four. Million, also we've 2341 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:29,800 Mentioned lonzo ball out For Isaac ocoro coming in roughly equal. 2342 01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,600 Money as we said, Earlier lonzo had a team option 2343 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,079 on the second year of his twenty million dollars. 2344 01:46:34,119 --> 01:46:37,000 Speaker 2: Deal corol has got two at twenty two. Left, yeah 2345 01:46:37,039 --> 01:46:40,319 The giddy deal not being done little, surprising but then 2346 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,479 it does just seem like extensions are lagging behind signings 2347 01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,039 at this. Point what do you think Of Trey jones 2348 01:46:46,039 --> 01:46:49,319 at three for twenty FOUR i, think, LIKE i think 2349 01:46:49,319 --> 01:46:52,399 that's a perfectly reasonable deal for a team that you 2350 01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,399 know he's not going to. Start he doesn't have. 2351 01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,199 Speaker 3: To they've got a fair amount of guard, depth especially 2352 01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,479 Assuming giddy is back and you still Got, Kobe Kobe, 2353 01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,199 White uh and Iod as soon moved. There, LIKE i 2354 01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:07,199 think that's reasonable money for Trade. Jones not not a 2355 01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:09,039 lot going on here, though until The giddi deal, comes 2356 01:47:09,079 --> 01:47:10,760 that'll really be the one THAT i think we like 2357 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,359 if you're forming Your bulls off season. 2358 01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,640 Speaker 2: Grade Whatever giddy gets is gonna be the bulk of. 2359 01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,119 Speaker 1: THAT i, think between The giddi deal and how do 2360 01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:20,319 they handle their expiring contracts With io and vooj And, Kobe, 2361 01:47:20,359 --> 01:47:23,000 like if they start moving those, guys it would signal all, 2362 01:47:23,079 --> 01:47:26,279 right they're playing a longer game. Here but if The 2363 01:47:26,319 --> 01:47:29,239 giddy deals like, massive so let's let's that's THE i 2364 01:47:29,239 --> 01:47:30,880 think Trade jones that number is. Fine he was really 2365 01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:32,479 good for them last. Year he was hitting shots like 2366 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,239 he did great and With lonzo not there anymore having, 2367 01:47:35,319 --> 01:47:38,119 him and it certainly if you, think, okay Maybe io gets. 2368 01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:39,960 Traded he's been linked to a ton of trade, rumors 2369 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,239 The giddy. Deal are you gonna Go i'm gonna say 2370 01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:45,760 twenty two and a half million a? Year are you 2371 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:46,199 going over? 2372 01:47:46,359 --> 01:47:49,640 Speaker 3: Under and in terms of WHAT i think it will 2373 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,760 be or WHAT i would do, myself. 2374 01:47:53,039 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: What you think it will? BE i know what you 2375 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,359 would do? Yourself did you if you never listen to 2376 01:47:56,399 --> 01:47:57,680 the PODCAST i did with moret on? 2377 01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:58,159 Speaker 2: This did? 2378 01:47:58,199 --> 01:47:59,079 Speaker 1: You? Uh i'm. 2379 01:47:59,079 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 2: Sure more it's about his life on the bulls as anybody. 2380 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,680 Speaker 1: He like wasn't willing TO i don't want to misquote him, 2381 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,840 so but he wasn't willing like even Give Josh giddy 2382 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,439 like the non tax player mid level. 2383 01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:12,880 Speaker 2: Exceptions like no qualifying. OFFERS i, MEAN i WOULD i 2384 01:48:13,159 --> 01:48:15,600 in terms of preserving the ASSET i would go a 2385 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,199 little higher than. 2386 01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:18,680 Speaker 3: THAT i think he's getting more than. That you, know 2387 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,399 the number from what like months ago was thirty a. 2388 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,880 YEAR I i, please, bulls don't do. THAT i don't 2389 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,479 think you have. To and HE'S i don't think he's worth. 2390 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,199 That but if it's twenty, Two i'm GOING i think 2391 01:48:30,199 --> 01:48:32,479 he's gonna get more than. That Like i'd be shocked 2392 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,319 if it were if they could get him at twenty 2393 01:48:34,319 --> 01:48:39,159 two a year starting. SALARY i mean EVEN i might 2394 01:48:39,239 --> 01:48:40,439 say that's that's actually. 2395 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,159 Speaker 1: OKAY i don't want to make you go down a. 2396 01:48:43,239 --> 01:48:46,760 Vortex but mort asked me, this what is the, scenario, 2397 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:51,199 like how do you build properly build a team Around Josh? 2398 01:48:51,279 --> 01:48:53,239 Giddy or is the problem sort of in the question 2399 01:48:53,319 --> 01:48:55,399 that you shouldn't be asking, yourself how do we build 2400 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,000 the right team Around Josh? Giddy? 2401 01:48:57,399 --> 01:48:58,680 Speaker 2: That, uh, YEAH i. 2402 01:48:59,039 --> 01:49:02,720 Speaker 3: Don't AND i think like there are certain player types 2403 01:49:04,399 --> 01:49:08,000 SORRY i use Some bonus as an example of, this 2404 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:13,239 that they're so productive that you just seems like you 2405 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,520 just got to pay them like their. Stars but the 2406 01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:20,680 problems they present in team building are such that if 2407 01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:24,319 you're paying them like a, star you really can't build 2408 01:49:24,359 --> 01:49:26,880 that good of a sustainable, winner AND i Think giddy 2409 01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,760 falls into that, category just at a different position where. 2410 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,439 Speaker 2: He has to have the. BALL i know the three 2411 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:34,520 point percentage has gone. 2412 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,319 Speaker 3: UP i just think the maximal value Of giddy is 2413 01:49:37,319 --> 01:49:39,199 he has to have the, ball AND i think that 2414 01:49:39,239 --> 01:49:41,880 limits how good your offense can. Be and then, defensively 2415 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,880 he sort of doesn't have a, position and he's a 2416 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,159 size that you normally have a good defensive player, at 2417 01:49:48,279 --> 01:49:51,279 and so you're doing all these acrobatics to sort of 2418 01:49:51,279 --> 01:49:54,000 figure out how to cobble together a defense. Too so 2419 01:49:54,039 --> 01:49:57,800 the problem is in asking the. QUESTION i think you 2420 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,199 don't build Around Josh. Giddy if you Get giddy as 2421 01:50:01,239 --> 01:50:03,880 an additive, piece that's, fine and you pay him like, that, 2422 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,279 Great but he isn't someone that you pay like a 2423 01:50:07,319 --> 01:50:10,800 star and then make decisions around him as he is. 2424 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,680 Now maybe maybe he'll get so much better offensively that 2425 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,680 the conversation. Changes i'm just saying that right now, TODAY 2426 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,680 i don't think it's it's plausible to build a winner around. 2427 01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,640 Speaker 1: HIM i JUST i don't even know like how he 2428 01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:26,720 squares away as a complimentary piece, either because what would 2429 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,439 be the type of star that you WOULD i guess 2430 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,600 if your best player is a big man who doesn't 2431 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,039 want the book Like Anthony davis or is that? Not 2432 01:50:33,159 --> 01:50:33,399 like AM? 2433 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,079 Speaker 2: I i, MEAN i just. DON'T i don't know that 2434 01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:37,479 he's like a. 2435 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,199 Speaker 3: STARTER i THINK i think like he could be a 2436 01:50:41,239 --> 01:50:44,880 really interesting second unit leader where you can get away 2437 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:48,359 with like having to just have him perfect. Lineups but, 2438 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,840 yeah the lineup problems and the roster construction problems are 2439 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,560 so significant with him THAT i, Like. 2440 01:50:55,079 --> 01:50:56,439 Speaker 2: I'm just NOT i don't. 2441 01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:58,520 Speaker 3: Know MAYBE i haven't given it enough, Thought like how 2442 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,399 what do you need around him to make it? Work 2443 01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,760 because LIKE i JUST i sort of cut the conversation 2444 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:04,520 off and, say LIKE. 2445 01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,800 Speaker 2: I just why why would you even try to do? 2446 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,600 That it doesn't make any. 2447 01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 1: Sense this is a good. Question who should get More 2448 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,119 Josh giddy Or Jonathan. 2449 01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:17,600 Speaker 3: Kaminga Mo, yeah it's they're probably gonna be really, CLOSE 2450 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:17,960 i would. 2451 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,720 Speaker 2: THINK i STILL i still think. 2452 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 3: Caveat i'm never rational about cominga AND i changed my 2453 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,960 opinion every thirty. SECONDS i Think kaminga has the higher. 2454 01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:34,319 UPSIDE i Think giddy has been more like conventionally box 2455 01:51:34,399 --> 01:51:36,520 scoy productive Than kaminga may ever. 2456 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:36,680 Speaker 1: Be. 2457 01:51:37,359 --> 01:51:39,079 Speaker 2: Uh but but, YEAH i don't. KNOW i think it 2458 01:51:39,159 --> 01:51:42,000 shakes out probably pretty similar like in the low twenties 2459 01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:45,880 at the, moment but you have to acknowledge it just 2460 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:50,039 athletically and, Positionally, kaminga like the realized version Of, kaminga 2461 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,319 does fit on good. Teams it's just that he's never 2462 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,199 shown that he, can you, know be that guy. 2463 01:51:56,279 --> 01:51:59,439 Speaker 1: Yet, Robert i'm laughing at your, comment BUT i can't 2464 01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,039 in good com just post it on. Screen future, matter 2465 01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:06,479 what If giddy The giddy trade With Chicago's Paul george 2466 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:13,920 For SHAY I i will Eat Joe dumars what? 2467 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,159 Speaker 3: If, INDEED i guess we'll have to see if if 2468 01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:18,079 the if he leads The bulls to a title in 2469 01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:20,359 like what four, years then we'll. 2470 01:52:20,399 --> 01:52:23,079 Speaker 1: Know we do do regrades every, Ausicer so we, do 2471 01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:24,960 and we do what we were, wrong and we're sorry 2472 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,560 at the end of every. Season so that would be 2473 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,359 issuing some, apologies would be my. Guess that's that's what would. 2474 01:52:29,399 --> 01:52:32,399 Happen did you we haven't talked to you about. This 2475 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,239 what did you think of what they did With lonzo 2476 01:52:34,319 --> 01:52:35,920 for A? Korro how did you feel about? That? 2477 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,880 Speaker 3: UH i MEAN i we talked about the cave side of, 2478 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:44,079 it AND i was very pro Getting lonzo and moving 2479 01:52:44,079 --> 01:52:47,840 a coro. OUT i the bull side of it is 2480 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:49,840 kind OF i don't. Know the stakes are so much 2481 01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,640 lower THAT i don't have nearly a strong of feelings about. 2482 01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:53,680 Speaker 2: IT i guess you could. 2483 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:57,159 Speaker 3: Say That okoro for this team might actually provide more 2484 01:52:57,239 --> 01:53:00,079 value because he maybe will be healthier and we'll. 2485 01:53:00,079 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 2: Give, you. 2486 01:53:01,239 --> 01:53:04,279 Speaker 3: Know SOME i, mean he's Not he's probably. NOT i 2487 01:53:04,319 --> 01:53:06,159 guess in some ways he's a better. DEFENDER i don't. 2488 01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:07,800 KNOW i don't have real strong feelings about. IT i 2489 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,319 guess just from a durability, standpoint Maybe akro you could 2490 01:53:11,399 --> 01:53:14,239 argue has more value Than lonzo does For. Chicago but, 2491 01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,239 LIKE i don't, know you They i'm. Not i'm not 2492 01:53:17,279 --> 01:53:19,359 seeing like a huge needle mover. There do you what 2493 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:19,880 are your? 2494 01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,359 Speaker 2: THOUGHTS i. Can't it's hard to imagine having strong thoughts 2495 01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:23,439 on this. One from the bull. 2496 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,880 Speaker 1: SIDE i understand it from like kind of the defensive, 2497 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:27,960 perspective and he. Did there was once upon a time 2498 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,239 where he had some more on ball reps In, cleveland 2499 01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:32,800 and like he showed some feel as a secondary, playmate 2500 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:35,119 like kind of The Josh green type of playmaking where 2501 01:53:35,119 --> 01:53:37,439 if he's on the, move you can do some speak 2502 01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:41,239 in my. Language, Yeah SO i like it's it's not 2503 01:53:41,279 --> 01:53:43,479 on the level Of Alex caruso For Josh, giddy but 2504 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,279 it feels, LIKE i don't, know you got the worst 2505 01:53:46,279 --> 01:53:50,039 player on a more expensive, contract so you, LIKE isaacacrl 2506 01:53:50,079 --> 01:53:53,640 really needs to, pop and you also just you windowed 2507 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,680 down your collection of two way players on a roster 2508 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,399 that doesn't have many of those to begin. With AND 2509 01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,119 i don't know if THE i honestly don't know what the, 2510 01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:03,640 thought LIKE i would have wanted as much bankable floor 2511 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,920 spacing Around Josh giddy if you're going to pay him 2512 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,399 as certainly Modest bouzellis And Noah sangway, Like SO i 2513 01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,960 found it. CURIOUS i don't think it's malpracticed or, anything 2514 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,439 but they must see something in isaacacorro THAT i, don't 2515 01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,880 or maybe they are gearing up For, oh if we 2516 01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,159 think we're gonna Trade, ioh we need someone who we 2517 01:54:21,159 --> 01:54:23,359 think can play like thirty minutes of just really like 2518 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,079 gritty point of attack defense in the back, court and 2519 01:54:26,119 --> 01:54:28,079 that's where they're coming. At and like we Know lonzo 2520 01:54:28,079 --> 01:54:31,319 can't play thirty minutes a game right? Anymore, right our 2521 01:54:31,319 --> 01:54:34,560 next team rendering The lightning round before the Super Lightning. Round, 2522 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,239 uh THE Okc thunder. Grant they re Signed Jalen, williams 2523 01:54:38,239 --> 01:54:41,039 Big Jalen williams for three years twenty three point nine. 2524 01:54:41,079 --> 01:54:43,920 Million they re signed Aj mitchell for three years and nine, 2525 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:45,960 million not twenty nine, million AS i put up on. 2526 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,840 Screen they had to. Decline The thunder declined team options 2527 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,039 on both of those dudes to make this. Happen they 2528 01:54:51,039 --> 01:54:53,079 also Traded Dylan jones in a second round pick to The, 2529 01:54:53,079 --> 01:54:55,920 wizards who we had an extensive video on the other 2530 01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,760 day and won't be talking about the much. Tonight But 2531 01:54:58,439 --> 01:55:00,720 wizards we talked about just being opportunistic taking. Flyers they 2532 01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:04,079 continue to do. That any thoughts here. On, okay, see 2533 01:55:04,119 --> 01:55:06,000 they were in a bit of a roster spot, shuffle 2534 01:55:06,039 --> 01:55:09,560 which is why they to make room for inbound first 2535 01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,000 rounder was A Thomas. Sorber you kind of had to 2536 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,960 get rid Of Dylan. Jones but this is just like 2537 01:55:15,359 --> 01:55:18,319 these deals just might turn into a freaking steal For, Okay. 2538 01:55:18,159 --> 01:55:21,159 Speaker 3: YEAH i mean The mitchell one is so cheap that 2539 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,000 it just makes. SENSE i, mean he was before he got. 2540 01:55:24,079 --> 01:55:27,039 Hurt he was actually like there was some, real like 2541 01:55:27,319 --> 01:55:32,159 weird backup playmaker possibilities. There maybe maybe he reprises that 2542 01:55:32,279 --> 01:55:34,279 and if, that if he can kind of do anything 2543 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:38,239 at that salary, rate like that's a huge. Win And williams, like, 2544 01:55:39,079 --> 01:55:44,359 again you, KNOW i think a lot of what if 2545 01:55:44,399 --> 01:55:46,640 there's gonna be a domino that falls IN okac as 2546 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,800 extensions come. In it seems like it might Be hartenstein 2547 01:55:50,039 --> 01:55:51,640 and they'll be able to get out of the last 2548 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,680 year that. Deal so obviously a lot of The sorber 2549 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,840 pick was kind of viewed through that. Lens and then 2550 01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:02,000 also Maybe Jalen, williams. 2551 01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,279 Speaker 2: He was like much younger THAN i. THOUGHT i think 2552 01:56:02,279 --> 01:56:02,800 he's twenty. 2553 01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 3: THREE i don't know WHY i just assumed he was 2554 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,920 older than, That but maybe he's someone that continues to 2555 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,760 improve as a, shooter just keeps taking charges and is 2556 01:56:12,319 --> 01:56:16,279 like a legit first big off the bench for a 2557 01:56:16,359 --> 01:56:18,000 version of The thunder a couple of years from now 2558 01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:18,439 at that. 2559 01:56:18,399 --> 01:56:20,239 Speaker 2: Pay, Grade like that's a huge. 2560 01:56:20,319 --> 01:56:23,119 Speaker 3: Value so, yeah, GO i mean the, surprise, surprise The 2561 01:56:23,119 --> 01:56:25,960 thunder just kind of continue to make smart moves on 2562 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,039 the margins. 2563 01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:29,279 Speaker 1: THEY i saw people trolling like why is it not 2564 01:56:29,359 --> 01:56:32,439 a big deal when The thunder give up like a 2565 01:56:32,479 --> 01:56:34,960 second round pick to wipe off a, contract and then 2566 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:36,640 who just why and then why is it a big 2567 01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:39,399 deal that the? Man what was the? Trade that's All 2568 01:56:39,439 --> 01:56:41,119 the reaction to it was just, like, WELL i mean 2569 01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:43,159 it Was Dylan jones versus like someone who might have 2570 01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:46,600 actually HAD i can't remember, it but, yeah this seems mostly, Shrewd, like, 2571 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,600 okay The thunder half picks to, spare so getting off 2572 01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,359 a first round pick one year later to create like roster. 2573 01:56:52,399 --> 01:56:55,239 Spot it's a little, weird but, Whatever BUT i would 2574 01:56:55,239 --> 01:56:57,359 echo what you, said and just as they if they 2575 01:56:57,359 --> 01:56:59,399 have to make tough like you Mentioned, hartenstein maybe with 2576 01:56:59,439 --> 01:57:02,199 Aj mitchell, specifically like if you ever have to make 2577 01:57:02,199 --> 01:57:04,680 a tough decision On case And wallace Or Alex, caruso 2578 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,199 just depending on what their price points land. At he's 2579 01:57:07,239 --> 01:57:08,960 just insurance for. That and he's by the way he 2580 01:57:09,079 --> 01:57:11,920 was before his, injury he was in the. ROTATION i 2581 01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:13,439 know The thunder were banged up at that, point but 2582 01:57:13,479 --> 01:57:17,800 he was a, rookie, yeah not an undrafted rookie or 2583 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,079 was he a second round but he was, undrafted RIGHT i, 2584 01:57:20,199 --> 01:57:25,479 think so, regardless he's in the. Rotation of what ended 2585 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,000 up being THE nba. Champion that is, absurd AND i would. 2586 01:57:29,039 --> 01:57:31,800 Expect i'm wondering if The thunder will look at maybe 2587 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,279 getting shooters like adding in another but the bar is 2588 01:57:35,319 --> 01:57:37,359 so high to crack the. Rotation it's just sort of, 2589 01:57:37,439 --> 01:57:40,359 like can you actually do? THAT i think the last 2590 01:57:40,359 --> 01:57:43,199 piece of business that they'll probably do is Both jail 2591 01:57:43,279 --> 01:57:46,439 And Jay dubb And Cheded holmgren are getting their max, Right. 2592 01:57:47,079 --> 01:57:49,199 Speaker 2: Yeah thirty fourth pick in his. 2593 01:57:49,319 --> 01:57:51,199 Speaker 1: Draft so how DID i not remember that? 2594 01:57:51,319 --> 01:57:54,960 Speaker 2: Undrafted when you said, UNDRAFTED i was, like that feels exactly. 2595 01:57:55,039 --> 01:57:56,439 Right i'm gonna say. 2596 01:57:56,479 --> 01:57:58,680 Speaker 1: It was funny BECAUSE i scouted him for something THAT 2597 01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,319 i did last, year SO i should have known that 2598 01:58:00,359 --> 01:58:03,359 it was number thirty. Four but, whatever we move. On 2599 01:58:03,439 --> 01:58:05,319 so we're gonna have to spend roughly like one hundred 2600 01:58:05,359 --> 01:58:07,199 and twenty minutes or so on this. Team do you 2601 01:58:07,239 --> 01:58:08,920 want to take us through what The Golden State warriors have? 2602 01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,279 Speaker 3: Done let's see nothing to see? Here Picked Upke santos's 2603 01:58:12,319 --> 01:58:17,600 team option two point two. Million, there Kevon looney, gone salute, you, 2604 01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:21,800 Champion jonathan kminga question, mark and then the most important 2605 01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,039 of all, Things Quinn post got his team option picked 2606 01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:29,239 up two million dollars JUST i, mean he'd be a 2607 01:58:29,279 --> 01:58:31,159 bargain at one hundred times the. 2608 01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:33,279 Speaker 2: Price so, YEAH i don't. 2609 01:58:33,319 --> 01:58:35,239 Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean like starting next, season. 2610 01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:39,720 Speaker 2: Well maybe, YEAH i bet he. 2611 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,319 Speaker 3: Does i'll bet they go into the, Season, well they'll 2612 01:58:42,319 --> 01:58:44,640 say it's a, competition Like Trace, Jackson davis will have 2613 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:46,520 a shot at, It Al horford will have a shot 2614 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,039 at it when they sign, him and Then post will 2615 01:58:49,039 --> 01:58:52,079 also have a shot at. IT i think if you're 2616 01:58:52,119 --> 01:58:54,560 really gonna Have draymond And Jimmy butler on the floor, 2617 01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:59,720 together like you better start. Posting then maybe kaminga just 2618 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,880 to get. Spacing even if even if It's pajemski half 2619 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:04,840 the time who goes through stretches where he can't make a, 2620 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,960 shot you're gonna need more, shooting more. SPACING i THINK 2621 01:59:09,039 --> 01:59:12,439 i Think post is gonna be the guy you're gonna 2622 01:59:12,439 --> 01:59:14,680 have to deal with all the. SHORTCOMINGS i do THINK 2623 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,039 i made the point last season THAT i do think 2624 01:59:17,039 --> 01:59:21,159 there's a good possibility that he's someone that improves his 2625 01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:24,159 defense to the point where it's at least like a net. 2626 01:59:24,199 --> 01:59:26,039 NEUTRAL i don't know that he's ever going to be 2627 01:59:26,079 --> 01:59:29,319 a good, defender BUT i do have some faith that 2628 01:59:29,359 --> 01:59:31,479 he can be like an adequate guy out there to 2629 01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:34,000 the point where you at least are able to keep 2630 01:59:34,039 --> 01:59:37,880 the shooting on the. Floor but, YEAH i really kamingos who. 2631 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:38,319 Speaker 2: We got to talk. 2632 01:59:38,319 --> 01:59:45,039 Speaker 3: ABOUT i just, like there's no, offers the nets don't 2633 01:59:45,039 --> 01:59:47,319 have any money, anymore and. 2634 01:59:47,279 --> 01:59:49,600 Speaker 2: It's seeming more and more likely that he's. 2635 01:59:49,479 --> 01:59:51,920 Speaker 3: Gonna come back and then probably get traded at the 2636 01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:54,399 deadline when the base of your compensation stuff is off the. 2637 01:59:54,399 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 2: Table that's my that's my. Forecast where are you on? 2638 01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 1: IT i Think i'm with. You maybe there's like an 2639 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,439 outide chance he just signs HIS qo and tries to 2640 02:00:02,439 --> 02:00:04,439 go into unrestricted free, agency which would be quite the 2641 02:00:04,439 --> 02:00:08,079 bet on a team that's not built to give him 2642 02:00:08,119 --> 02:00:10,199 like the role that he, wants and so he would 2643 02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:12,479 really have to embrace the role that they want him to. 2644 02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,640 Play AND i haven't asked you this about. Him so 2645 02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:18,520 it's two. QUESTIONS i want to know what's the, Number 2646 02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:20,600 like you're the war where the number gets queasy and 2647 02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,359 you're like you're almost hoping that he signs the qualifying 2648 02:00:23,399 --> 02:00:25,880 offer or you're really squeezing, Him like what is the, 2649 02:00:26,359 --> 02:00:27,920 like what's the most you're willing to pay him as 2650 02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,000 a warrior is in terms of preserving the. 2651 02:00:30,079 --> 02:00:33,560 Speaker 3: Asset, yeah not not from a like, oh he's gonna 2652 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:37,359 be on the team at this, Number like, SO i 2653 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,680 THINK i think he would be very easily tradable if 2654 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:44,800 you hold on to him up and move him at 2655 02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:48,079 the deadline when you can go more dollar for dollar 2656 02:00:48,159 --> 02:00:52,760 and not this like fifty PERCENT byc. STUFF i think 2657 02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:56,239 he's pretty movable at twenty five or under a, year 2658 02:00:56,640 --> 02:00:59,439 or maybe just say starting at twenty. Five if you 2659 02:00:59,439 --> 02:01:03,079 get up into the, thirties THEN I i REALLY i 2660 02:01:03,239 --> 02:01:06,720 just DON'T i don't know that he's gonna play enough 2661 02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:09,199 or show enough in whatever new role he might be 2662 02:01:09,239 --> 02:01:11,920 in for that half a season to generate like real. 2663 02:01:12,039 --> 02:01:14,079 Value and then that's without even getting into the length 2664 02:01:14,119 --> 02:01:15,680 of the. DEAL i don't even know what kind of 2665 02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,680 what length of the deal he would, want, Right, like 2666 02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:19,880 maybe he'd like to just get back on the market 2667 02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:23,560 quickly plus, one, yeah something shorter like. That you, know 2668 02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,760 we always default to like the four four year. Dealers you, 2669 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:29,079 know some of these guys are getting five on the higher. 2670 02:01:29,199 --> 02:01:32,079 End but but, YEAH i don't know if you want 2671 02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:33,800 to if you go above twenty. FIVE i don't know 2672 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,279 that he's necessarily a safe bet to be tradeable for positive. 2673 02:01:37,359 --> 02:01:41,239 Speaker 1: VALUE dj says in the CHAT qo makes him easy 2674 02:01:41,279 --> 02:01:44,640 to trade In. December it, does but his bird rights don't, 2675 02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,520 transfer and he has veto power over any, move and 2676 02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:49,039 SO i don't know what a team would give up 2677 02:01:49,039 --> 02:01:53,399 to get him at that. Point my final question here 2678 02:01:53,439 --> 02:01:56,600 would be do you think for the role that The 2679 02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:59,079 warriors would if they if you let The warriors map 2680 02:01:59,119 --> 02:02:01,359 out the role that they wanted him to, play do 2681 02:02:01,399 --> 02:02:03,199 you think he's capable OF i don't want to say 2682 02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:05,920 it's scaling, down but fitting into, that like if he 2683 02:02:06,039 --> 02:02:10,199 really like from what you've, seen is this really a 2684 02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,760 preference thing on his part or you just think that 2685 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:15,359 he's not wired or not capable of being that? 2686 02:02:15,399 --> 02:02:19,960 Speaker 3: GUY i, think, uh that's a that's a well. PHRASED 2687 02:02:20,119 --> 02:02:26,760 i think physically he's, capable at least on defense and 2688 02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,880 as a, rebounder of being exactly what they want him to. 2689 02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:35,560 BE i am less certain that as an offensive player 2690 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:40,079 he's outfitted with the skills to be a quick read and, 2691 02:02:40,159 --> 02:02:43,720 react like you, know point whatever The spurs thing, was 2692 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:47,399 point five or. Whatever decision MAKER i just think some 2693 02:02:47,439 --> 02:02:48,840 guys can do that and some guys. 2694 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:49,560 Speaker 2: CAN'T i. 2695 02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:53,680 Speaker 3: Don't i've never really seen him consistently be the type 2696 02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:57,720 of offensive player that makes the correct quick, pass dribbleshoot. 2697 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:01,600 Decision AND i don't know if that's in. There the bigger, issue, 2698 02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:04,920 though and you did, delineate like is it a capability 2699 02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,479 or a preference? Thing is his preference is just not 2700 02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,199 to be the guy The warriors want him to be at. 2701 02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:11,439 All he wants to, be he. SAID i, mean he said. 2702 02:03:11,439 --> 02:03:14,439 It Anthony slater had the reporting on, It like he 2703 02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:16,239 wants to be An All, star he wants to be 2704 02:03:16,279 --> 02:03:18,640 a first option, scorer he wants the ball in his, 2705 02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:20,560 hands he wants to create, shots get to the foul. 2706 02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:24,000 LINE i think that's awesome that he wants. That you 2707 02:03:24,039 --> 02:03:27,000 gotta believe in, yourself, Right like that's that's what you should, 2708 02:03:27,079 --> 02:03:28,039 be that. 2709 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Confident Quote Grant hughes To Grant. 2710 02:03:30,399 --> 02:03:32,439 Speaker 2: PLEASE i tried to remember WHAT i, said BUT i. 2711 02:03:32,439 --> 02:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Couldn't if you don't believe in, you who? Will? 2712 02:03:35,279 --> 02:03:37,359 Speaker 3: Right if you don't believe, you who, will like you 2713 02:03:37,399 --> 02:03:39,800 should be irrational about how good you. ARE i think 2714 02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:43,640 to a, point WHAT i just he's never shown the 2715 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,439 ability to drive good, offense and maybe that's not a 2716 02:03:47,479 --> 02:03:49,720 fair thing to say because of the situation he's been, 2717 02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:54,119 In BUT I i just think the major Issue i've 2718 02:03:54,119 --> 02:03:56,600 said it a hundred times with The warriors And kaminga 2719 02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:58,760 is that he thinks he's a different player than they 2720 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,880 think he. Is AND i just don't know if that's 2721 02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:02,039 ever gonna SQUARE. 2722 02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,199 Speaker 1: I glasgow, asked what are your actual thoughts On Al 2723 02:04:05,239 --> 02:04:05,760 horford for The. 2724 02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:10,319 Speaker 3: WARRIORS i think he'd be a great, fit, Obviously like 2725 02:04:10,399 --> 02:04:13,000 he's just he would give you, spacing he'd give you, 2726 02:04:13,039 --> 02:04:16,760 defense he'd be another smart, addition a good. Passer he 2727 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,399 would thrive in the kind of offense they want to. Play, 2728 02:04:20,039 --> 02:04:22,399 Yeah Robert kamiz is Like DeAndre and in that. Way, 2729 02:04:22,439 --> 02:04:25,159 yeah just the processing speeds not there, maybe and also 2730 02:04:25,239 --> 02:04:30,880 the sort of semi inflated view of your skills and 2731 02:04:31,239 --> 02:04:31,720 place on a. 2732 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:32,039 Speaker 1: Team. 2733 02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:35,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, No horford would make a ton of sense for The, 2734 02:04:35,239 --> 02:04:37,600 warriors don't don't you? Agree, like just then you're not 2735 02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:40,760 really relying on posts and Trace Jackson davis to be your. 2736 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,399 Speaker 1: STARTER i think the big problem there is that The 2737 02:04:43,399 --> 02:04:47,479 warriors aren't The. Knicks so, Right sorry forgot about that 2738 02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:51,279 is this going to break up the? Podcast it might 2739 02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:55,399 just we fight Over Al horford in his age and 2740 02:04:55,439 --> 02:04:59,079 then he just he signs With milwaukee or he's dead 2741 02:04:59,079 --> 02:05:00,680 to both of. Us, yeah and then we have a common. 2742 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:04,319 Enemy so it's make or break. Season we're onto The. 2743 02:05:04,359 --> 02:05:08,560 Sixers they Signed Trendon waffer for two years five point 2744 02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:11,359 three million. Dollars that'll make more. Happy and Actually Trendon 2745 02:05:11,399 --> 02:05:13,039 offfer is like sort of a grab and go like, 2746 02:05:13,159 --> 02:05:16,880 undersize like big point guard, Type YET i like. Him 2747 02:05:17,079 --> 02:05:19,239 Kelly Brady junior picked up his player option of eight 2748 02:05:19,279 --> 02:05:22,880 point four. Million Eric gordon declined his player. Options makes 2749 02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:24,239 me think that they're just gonna pick him back up 2750 02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:26,000 on the minimum so it can offset with the way 2751 02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,479 that the league reimburses. You and they decline the option 2752 02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,199 On Lonnie. WALKER i think none of this stuff is. 2753 02:05:31,239 --> 02:05:33,560 Surprising The sixers don't have a ton of. Flexibility the 2754 02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,199 big thing that we would talk about quickly is The 2755 02:05:37,279 --> 02:05:39,680 Quentin grime. Stuff what do you think is a reasonable? 2756 02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:41,640 Number where does this end up? At The nets are 2757 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:44,039 the only team now that we can really throw anything 2758 02:05:44,079 --> 02:05:46,279 at him unless it's assigned in. Trade just what do 2759 02:05:46,359 --> 02:05:48,560 you think happens and where do you view Him just 2760 02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,560 when you look At jared McCain and now you HAVE. 2761 02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:55,479 Vj edgecomb And TYRESE, maxi where does he rank on 2762 02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,920 the scale of priorities for those. GUARDS i know THAT. 2763 02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:00,800 Vj edgecomb could be more of a, wing but just you, know, reck. 2764 02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, NO i kind of view that as a bit 2765 02:06:03,159 --> 02:06:06,399 of a, logjam especially if you think McCain can sustain 2766 02:06:06,479 --> 02:06:08,600 and improve on what he did as a short rookie 2767 02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:12,239 season with the nets kind of looking less like a. 2768 02:06:12,239 --> 02:06:16,800 Threat i'm lowballing because, one you've got the positional, glut 2769 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,560 you just can't overinvest In. Grimes and Two grimes has 2770 02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:25,640 been this guy for two, months and you Just i'm 2771 02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:27,880 a little hesitant to go nuts on a twenty five 2772 02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:31,000 million dollars a year thing based on that sample. Size 2773 02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,640 SO i think if, you if you're the, Sixers i'm 2774 02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:38,840 starting negotiations at like fifteen a year and just be, like, 2775 02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,760 well it's going to beat the mid, level so you, 2776 02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:43,479 know this is still probably the best you're going to. 2777 02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,159 Speaker 2: Do and if you want to just play on the qualifying, 2778 02:06:45,159 --> 02:06:45,680 offer good. 2779 02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,199 Speaker 3: Luck to, you and then maybe you find out whether 2780 02:06:48,279 --> 02:06:51,199 he's worth kind of bending over backwards to try to 2781 02:06:51,279 --> 02:06:53,680 keep some other, way you probably are kind of just 2782 02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:55,920 giving up on a long term relationship if you do 2783 02:06:56,439 --> 02:07:00,039 go to the qualifying offer. Route BUT i think the 2784 02:07:00,399 --> 02:07:02,399 this offseason is shaken out so far with the lack 2785 02:07:02,439 --> 02:07:05,079 of suitors and the nets looking less. THREATENING i Don't 2786 02:07:05,359 --> 02:07:08,520 i'm not starting in the twenties on. Him maybe he's worth, 2787 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:09,960 that But i'm not not starting. 2788 02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,359 Speaker 1: There this feels kind of like a situation where he'll 2789 02:07:12,399 --> 02:07:14,880 get slightly more than the mid level because it's, Like, 2790 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:16,640 okay this was what the market could give, you so 2791 02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:19,239 it's fourteen point one to, Start we'll give you, fifteen 2792 02:07:19,279 --> 02:07:21,479 and the raises go up from. There, Yeah like doesn't 2793 02:07:21,479 --> 02:07:22,960 it kind of feel like that's how this all, ends, 2794 02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,359 which by the, way is fair BECAUSE i don't know 2795 02:07:24,359 --> 02:07:26,880 how he fits in to the larger, Context like it 2796 02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:28,640 was cool that he had all that shock creation, stuff 2797 02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,560 but will he play with the same mojo when the 2798 02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:33,000 ball is not in his hands as often. 2799 02:07:33,079 --> 02:07:35,920 Speaker 3: And from an opportunity, standpoint, like he's just not gonna 2800 02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,439 have that those kinds of touches if unless the sixers 2801 02:07:38,479 --> 02:07:41,560 fall apart physically, again so it's and it's not even a, 2802 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,680 question so much of could he do it? Again it's 2803 02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:45,920 like will he even be allowed to which probably? 2804 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Not and then so what is his value look? Like 2805 02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,880 if it's four years and sixty four, MILLION i would 2806 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,359 say that's eminently, tradable but it's like what is his actual? 2807 02:07:53,439 --> 02:07:55,479 Value so it's and they don't know enough because they 2808 02:07:55,479 --> 02:07:57,279 haven't Seen it's not to say it can't be like, 2809 02:07:57,399 --> 02:08:00,960 great but they just haven't seen it. Enough our next team, 2810 02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:03,399 grant WHICH i believe is our like final real. Team 2811 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,600 you want to take us through The Orlando magic really. 2812 02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,680 Speaker 3: Quick, yeah they Signed Tyas jones one, year seven. Million 2813 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,359 that's part a portion of the mid level. Exception uh 2814 02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:14,760 Declined movagner's eleven million dollar team. Option i'm sure he'll 2815 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,319 be back on a different number just because THE i mean, 2816 02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:20,119 one he was super good offensively before he got. Hurt 2817 02:08:20,119 --> 02:08:23,119 in two his last. Name they declined a two point 2818 02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:26,800 two million dollar team option On Caleb Houston Tyas jones. 2819 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,520 Quickly SO i think when we were like sketching out 2820 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,800 who The magic, need we were always kind of, like, 2821 02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,159 oh dynamic playmaker and shot, creator And jones was always 2822 02:08:36,239 --> 02:08:38,680 like an okay. Fit but now That Desmond baine is 2823 02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,600 there you can deal with a game, manager, right, like 2824 02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:43,560 which is What jones. IS i THINK i Think i'm 2825 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:46,880 fine with, it especially at that, number even, if Like, 2826 02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:52,000 jones isn't the real like EXCITING i don't, know like score, 2827 02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:55,560 scoring spacing threat that LIKE i don't know that we 2828 02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:58,079 have kept Using Anthony simons as that, guy. 2829 02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:01,960 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean he's not like He this might allow 2830 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,119 him to blend what he did In, phoenix which he 2831 02:09:04,119 --> 02:09:06,319 didn't like he was in the corner a lot versus 2832 02:09:06,319 --> 02:09:08,479 like they will give him on ball. Touches but he's 2833 02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:11,399 also not a great. Defender so Will Jamal mosley ever play? 2834 02:09:11,479 --> 02:09:14,439 Him is the. QUESTION i JUST i did not see 2835 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,920 him getting less guaranteed money per year Than Trey. JONES 2836 02:09:18,119 --> 02:09:20,880 i Guess Trey jones negotiating with The. Bulls BUT i 2837 02:09:21,039 --> 02:09:23,920 like to fit. Here it's a game manager For. Orlando 2838 02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:26,479 and just like in the, minutes whether it's With palo 2839 02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,039 And franz or, without like this is just The orlando 2840 02:09:30,119 --> 02:09:31,840 we talked. About maybe they could get a lot better 2841 02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:33,600 on offense this year when they saw. It Con like 2842 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,239 now they're set up With Desmond bay and tied like 2843 02:09:36,279 --> 02:09:39,039 you can get like AND i wonder how Much Desmond 2844 02:09:39,079 --> 02:09:41,039 Baine Tyst jones' former team they played a role in 2845 02:09:41,079 --> 02:09:43,760 getting him To. Orlando so, YEAH i like. THIS i 2846 02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:46,319 think it's fine for The magic and IT'S i, LOOK 2847 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:49,960 i said this To. Moret they have to be considered 2848 02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:51,600 the third best team in The east right, now right 2849 02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:53,399 they might even be considered the. SECOND i Think cleveland 2850 02:09:53,439 --> 02:09:56,399 would be. Favored and then maybe it's Like New York 2851 02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:58,800 orlando kind of in that, mix would we be we 2852 02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:02,000 Like atlanta at this point for, SURE i, Like miami's 2853 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:03,399 not gonna be end up maybe if The sixers are, 2854 02:10:03,439 --> 02:10:04,399 healthy but that's a big. 2855 02:10:04,479 --> 02:10:07,079 Speaker 3: If, YEAH i Think cleveland's the only lock it in 2856 02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:10,439 ahead of them at this point and and like pretty. 2857 02:10:10,439 --> 02:10:12,680 Comfortably but but after, that, yeah they got as good 2858 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:14,520 a shot as. Anybody i'd probably put The knicks in 2859 02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:17,439 that same in that same. Area, like but, like WHO 2860 02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:21,600 i Mean orlando signing puts you over the top On New. York, 2861 02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:24,159 well IT'S i, Mean orlando won ten fewer games than 2862 02:10:24,159 --> 02:10:26,039 The knicks last, year and they had their two best 2863 02:10:26,039 --> 02:10:27,880 players out for like a huge chunk of the. Season 2864 02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,239 so the, gap even based on last year isn't as 2865 02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:33,239 wide as it might SEEM. 2866 02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I actually lied and we have this team The. SPURS 2867 02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:38,159 i found it. Fascinating So Luke cornett got four years 2868 02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,560 and forty one million. Dollars the final year is a team, 2869 02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:45,840 option so, like you, know all, right that was how 2870 02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:48,279 do you feel you Have wemby that you could play them? 2871 02:10:48,279 --> 02:10:50,479 TOGETHER i guess at, point Like Luke cornett gives you In, 2872 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:52,399 fury could give you some stretch you. Have The cornet 2873 02:10:52,479 --> 02:10:55,520 contests like do you think The spurs are built TO 2874 02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:57,680 i Think boston allowed him to do a lot of 2875 02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,840 things defensively that would cover up for his. Weakness is 2876 02:10:59,880 --> 02:11:01,680 the think The spurs are built in a similar? 2877 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,039 Speaker 3: FASHION i THINK i think he's A he's an okay fit. 2878 02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:09,279 There it's a little more THAN i Thought cornett would. 2879 02:11:09,319 --> 02:11:13,600 Get but given like The spurs just had nobody at, 2880 02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:16,920 center like whether behind Wom migyamo or like next to, 2881 02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,359 Him so he's a pretty significant upgrade. 2882 02:11:19,399 --> 02:11:23,159 Speaker 2: There it's it's a little more. 2883 02:11:23,199 --> 02:11:26,560 Speaker 3: LIKE i, mean yeah that the the team option on 2884 02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,239 the on the final year is maybe if it's like 2885 02:11:29,479 --> 02:11:33,319 if it's effectively three for, thirty like maybe that has 2886 02:11:33,359 --> 02:11:34,239 a little less sticker. 2887 02:11:34,239 --> 02:11:36,439 Speaker 2: Shock but even this four for forty. One that's totally, 2888 02:11:36,479 --> 02:11:37,279 fine fine by. 2889 02:11:37,319 --> 02:11:39,720 Speaker 1: ME i think it's. FINE i mean they're in a 2890 02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:41,560 position where it. WORKS i was just the number caught 2891 02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:43,760 me off guard a little. Bit. Yeah. There do you 2892 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:45,840 think they'll play him And wemby? Together probably not right 2893 02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,119 because they just don't have like enough backup big man 2894 02:11:48,159 --> 02:11:49,039 types on the roster in. 2895 02:11:49,079 --> 02:11:51,840 Speaker 3: General well, yeah more so for that reason than then 2896 02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:53,600 like a fit, issue BECAUSE i think you can sort 2897 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:55,880 of play any actual center With wembenyama if you want. 2898 02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:57,800 Speaker 2: To if he's gonna shoot ten threes a game this, 2899 02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:58,359 year why. 2900 02:11:58,399 --> 02:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Not now my big question, is how do, you, like 2901 02:12:01,279 --> 02:12:04,560 how Will Brad stevens Reacquire Luke cornett in the middle 2902 02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:04,760 of the. 2903 02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:09,439 Speaker 3: Season let's, see They'll Derek white back to back To San. 2904 02:12:09,479 --> 02:12:10,520 Antonio that'll be the. 2905 02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:14,239 Speaker 1: Trade So i'm going to just read to you the 2906 02:12:14,239 --> 02:12:16,039 other teams that we didn't go through what they. Did 2907 02:12:16,279 --> 02:12:18,760 it's gonna be ten, sets like less than thirty seconds 2908 02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:21,680 on each, team just to, see like if there's any 2909 02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:25,199 storylines to keep track. Of, Basically, so The Boston, celtics 2910 02:12:25,439 --> 02:12:28,119 they Signed Luca, garcer so they found their big man. 2911 02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:30,920 Replacement they picked up the team option ON. Jd. DAVISON 2912 02:12:31,199 --> 02:12:32,960 i think the storyline kind of here is are they 2913 02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:36,279 done with their cost cutting and no justification? Needed does 2914 02:12:36,319 --> 02:12:38,239 this make it more likely they Bring horford back now 2915 02:12:38,279 --> 02:12:40,560 that they. LOST i think everyone, thought, Oh cornett's gonna 2916 02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:42,439 end up being the cheaper, one so he'll be. Back 2917 02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:44,920 and now it's, like Well cornett got like more money 2918 02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:45,319 than Brook. 2919 02:12:45,319 --> 02:12:49,000 Speaker 2: Lopez, yeah, wow that's now that's the way to frame. 2920 02:12:49,039 --> 02:12:49,159 Speaker 1: It. 2921 02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,159 Speaker 3: UH i JUST i don't understand Why horford would come 2922 02:12:52,199 --> 02:12:54,239 back other than if it's like a lifestyle the kind 2923 02:12:54,239 --> 02:12:56,600 of you, know he wants to be In boston because 2924 02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:58,640 he's GONNA i think he's gonna get full mid level, 2925 02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:01,000 offers AND i don't Think austin should be in the 2926 02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:02,359 business of doing anything close to. 2927 02:13:02,399 --> 02:13:06,479 Speaker 1: That as My i've said everything on my. Desk flying 2928 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:11,279 The pacers picked up the team option On Tony. Bradley 2929 02:13:12,039 --> 02:13:13,039 Is Miles turner Gone? 2930 02:13:13,039 --> 02:13:15,800 Speaker 3: Grant is that What i'm just looking at your. KEYBOARD 2931 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:19,159 i can't concentrate right. Now, yeah, Clearly Tony bradley's going 2932 02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:20,840 to be the center of the future for the next 2933 02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,680 championship iteration of the of The, pacers not Like. 2934 02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Turners he'll be, back LIKE i. 2935 02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:28,199 Speaker 3: DON'T i don't know why he hasn't signed, yet but like, 2936 02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,199 THERE i don't think there's any realistic scenario Where turner gets. 2937 02:13:31,239 --> 02:13:33,920 Speaker 1: Away to, you, NO i, don't and then if it, 2938 02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,319 is it's going to be a sign in. Trade at 2939 02:13:35,319 --> 02:13:37,039 this point, TOO i do wonder do you think that 2940 02:13:37,039 --> 02:13:39,119 they're going to enter the season in the tax or 2941 02:13:39,159 --> 02:13:40,319 that they'll cut salary. 2942 02:13:40,359 --> 02:13:46,960 Speaker 3: BEFORE i think they'll cut salary. Before, unfortunately The halliburton 2943 02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:49,079 INJURY i think gives them cover to do, that even 2944 02:13:49,079 --> 02:13:50,119 though they said they would pay. 2945 02:13:50,159 --> 02:13:54,039 Speaker 1: It The Miami. Heat they did Resign Davion mitchell on 2946 02:13:54,079 --> 02:13:55,840 a two year. DEAL i think it was a twenty four. Million, 2947 02:13:56,079 --> 02:13:59,439 uh that's. Fine Duncan robinson is a free, agent so 2948 02:13:59,479 --> 02:14:01,520 he declined there's really termination, option and he picked it. 2949 02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:03,920 Up he would have been guaranteed almost Ten this just 2950 02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:06,760 feels like it'll end with him signing for multiple years 2951 02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:08,880 that like maybe two years and. Twenty so it's like 2952 02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:12,239 he's locking in slightly more guaranteed money than he had 2953 02:14:12,279 --> 02:14:14,119 for year, one and then you get money in year 2954 02:14:14,159 --> 02:14:16,680 two and maybe it's non. GUARANTEED i HONESTLY i thought 2955 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,399 that was that was an interesting decision by. 2956 02:14:19,479 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i hadn't thought about the obvious, possibilities just 2957 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,239 he'll just be. BACK i was, Like, oh there's a 2958 02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:26,800 shooter on the, market like maybe maybe he fills The 2959 02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,640 beasly void and everybody throws money at. 2960 02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Him. 2961 02:14:29,479 --> 02:14:32,039 Speaker 3: YEAH i think that's that's a fair. Assumption now to 2962 02:14:32,119 --> 02:14:34,720 be back In. Miami it's just with more guaranteed. Money 2963 02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:35,279 what's wrong with? 2964 02:14:35,319 --> 02:14:38,359 Speaker 1: That So, phoenix we know about The they Acquired Mark, 2965 02:14:38,399 --> 02:14:41,920 williams they guaranteed the salary Of Nick. Richards they also Drafted, 2966 02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:44,600 malawatch so they got some centers. There they traded Me 2967 02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:47,840 sich as part of that deal For as part of 2968 02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:50,479 that deal Of Mark, Williams cody mart was officially waived By. 2969 02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:54,199 Phoenix go pick him, Up, Nicks, celtics every single team 2970 02:14:54,239 --> 02:14:56,880 in THE. Nba he's a fit. Everywhere and as you pointed, 2971 02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:59,159 out they agree to a one, year two million dollar 2972 02:14:59,279 --> 02:15:01,239 deal With Nigel Hayes. 2973 02:15:01,439 --> 02:15:06,479 Speaker 3: Davis gotta get Our EuroLeague champion And Turkish CUP mvp. 2974 02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:08,479 Speaker 2: Guys some shout outs. 2975 02:15:09,119 --> 02:15:11,800 Speaker 1: The, sun The. Blazers we probably could have talked about 2976 02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:14,800 this more at, length but they waived. There they finally 2977 02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:17,680 go buy out With DeAndre. Eighton we know they traded 2978 02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:19,479 for jew. Holiday we talked about that at length more, 2979 02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:21,279 night so that's why we didn't go through. It what 2980 02:15:21,319 --> 02:15:23,520 did you make of that he reduced his salary by ten, 2981 02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:26,840 million which made me think, That, okay he's getting like 2982 02:15:27,199 --> 02:15:29,560 most of the non tax PAYER miid level somewhere. 2983 02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:35,199 Speaker 3: ELSE i think The my takeaway is that really big 2984 02:15:35,279 --> 02:15:39,000 expiring salaries may not be what they used to be 2985 02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,359 because what was he had about thirty five a year 2986 02:15:41,479 --> 02:15:43,880 and then coming off the, books you would think they're 2987 02:15:44,039 --> 02:15:45,960 in years past there would have been a market for that. 2988 02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:48,520 Guy maybe it was to take on longer term money 2989 02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:50,720 that might not be so, hot but you would you know, 2990 02:15:51,159 --> 02:15:54,319 It just as we're trying to figure out what this 2991 02:15:54,359 --> 02:15:57,800 NEW cba is gonna inflate the value of and diminish 2992 02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:00,119 the value, of it kind of feels like maybe expiring 2993 02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:01,920 salaries are not quite so. 2994 02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:06,159 Speaker 1: Great, yeah how'd they Get Turkish tatum FROM bja talking About? 2995 02:16:06,159 --> 02:16:08,840 Phoenix good for? Them so will he Be turkish positive 2996 02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,039 tatum or negative? Tatum how does? That how does that? 2997 02:16:11,079 --> 02:16:11,359 Speaker 2: WORK? 2998 02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:15,199 Speaker 1: Tvd so, YEAH i would echo everything you kind of said, 2999 02:16:15,359 --> 02:16:17,479 there and especially The Collin sexton deals on WHAT i 3000 02:16:17,479 --> 02:16:19,000 look at where it's, like oh, right they had to get, 3001 02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:21,960 Off like give up is just, bizarre some weird. Stuff 3002 02:16:22,399 --> 02:16:25,359 The Toronto raptors grant you know what they've done absolutely. 3003 02:16:25,399 --> 02:16:28,319 Nothing they did get rid Of masayu jury. Though your 3004 02:16:28,359 --> 02:16:29,119 thoughts on, That. 3005 02:16:30,079 --> 02:16:33,600 Speaker 3: Uh, well he'll be running The knicks pretty, soon so 3006 02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:34,479 we'll talk about it. 3007 02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Then, NO i don't. 3008 02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:37,239 Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean it seemed like that was, souring didn't 3009 02:16:37,239 --> 02:16:40,040 it in, Hindsight like there was some question ABOUT i, 3010 02:16:40,079 --> 02:16:42,639 mean he was making a ton by all, accounts and 3011 02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:44,840 like he's presided over this team that has kind of 3012 02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:47,520 been like treading water for a little bit too, Long 3013 02:16:47,559 --> 02:16:48,280 SO i get. 3014 02:16:48,319 --> 02:16:48,639 Speaker 2: It i'm not. 3015 02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:51,319 Speaker 3: Surprised and he's like he's a big personality, Too like 3016 02:16:51,360 --> 02:16:53,520 he was kind of bombastic in some of his comments 3017 02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:56,840 about the team's ambitions and then didn't. Deliver so that's 3018 02:16:56,959 --> 02:16:59,719 that's always gonna maybe you, know rub ownership the wrong. 3019 02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:03,639 Speaker 1: Way, yeah this just FELT i don't know the press 3020 02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,719 conference vibe based off the QUOTES i s a offer. 3021 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:06,799 Me it just ME i feel like they don't really 3022 02:17:06,799 --> 02:17:08,040 have a Plan like this felt like more of a 3023 02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:11,040 power compense Like Tory issueste than it was anything. Else, 3024 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:14,559 yeah SO i don't favor. It, finally The Washington, wizards 3025 02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:17,639 they Waved Anthony. Gill they Acquired Dylan jones from The. Thunder, 3026 02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:22,040 uh we just did. SO I glascow Says misside drafted 3027 02:17:22,079 --> 02:17:24,440 one more wing who can't shoot before he. 3028 02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Left. 3029 02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:27,840 Speaker 1: THOUGH i like that that's optics made. It the timing 3030 02:17:27,879 --> 02:17:29,479 was weird because the optics made it look like they 3031 02:17:29,479 --> 02:17:31,440 were so unhappy with the draft and they fired, him 3032 02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:33,440 which is clearly this is stuff that builds. 3033 02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:35,799 Speaker 3: Up do you like sneak the pick in to everyone's? 3034 02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:37,760 Surprise it's, LIKE i, know tikebacks see. 3035 02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:41,159 Speaker 1: You. Uh just we recorded something recently at length with The. 3036 02:17:41,159 --> 02:17:42,719 Wizards i'd encourage you to go check it out on 3037 02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:45,040 our YouTube channel or podcast. Feed we like the direction 3038 02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:48,360 that they're headed. IN i think that they have enough 3039 02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,559 expiring contracts though where it's like we haven't heard from 3040 02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:53,520 them yet during free, agency but we will hear from 3041 02:17:53,559 --> 02:17:54,079 them at some. 3042 02:17:54,159 --> 02:17:56,440 Speaker 2: Point it feels like a. Threat is that a? 3043 02:17:56,479 --> 02:18:01,319 Speaker 1: Threat that's, look it's. Time are you ready to take 3044 02:18:01,399 --> 02:18:03,959 us out of? Here? Sir after two hours and seventeen 3045 02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:06,639 plus minutes of free agency, talk. 3046 02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Pretty good for us on a day one Of Free. 3047 02:18:09,079 --> 02:18:11,799 AGENCY i don't know what our average, is but this feels. 3048 02:18:11,479 --> 02:18:12,120 Speaker 2: Like it's under. 3049 02:18:12,159 --> 02:18:15,719 Speaker 3: It thanks everybody that checked, in for, commenting for. Watching 3050 02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:16,760 if you're listening. 3051 02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:18,719 Speaker 2: To this on your podcast player. 3052 02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:21,079 Speaker 3: Of, choice rate, review, subscribe do all the, things give 3053 02:18:21,159 --> 02:18:23,040 us a thumbs up on, YouTube leave us and comments. 3054 02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:25,719 There tell your Friends tellier and we join our. DISCORD 3055 02:18:25,719 --> 02:18:27,479 a lot of discord members in the. Chat nice to 3056 02:18:27,479 --> 02:18:31,959 see everybody in a different parasocial. SETTING i GUESS i don't. 3057 02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:36,239 Speaker 2: Know we're friends here, too shouts. Frankly the chemo Apologies 3058 02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:36,719 Jared allen