Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Rose Pricks. It's me. It's
Speaker 1: Stephanie Wilder Tailor. I'm here with Cecily, Cecily, Cecily.
Speaker 2: No, it is Cecil, It's not Cecy, it's just Cecily
Speaker 2: straight up.
Speaker 1: Oh no, blur. I'm so sorry, so sorry. Should we
Speaker 1: start over? I want to say your name right, I
Speaker 1: do want I like, I feel really bad, okay, Cecily.
Speaker 2: Note, we're here with Cecily Cicily Nobbler. I went on
Speaker 2: a couple of dates with someone. That's the whole story.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: No, like many years ago, a Guyugh, I've decided in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, I'm gonna give less information because I'm like,
Speaker 2: what am I doing? I'm just like destroying any chance
Speaker 2: I have of ever dating. If I'm just gonna name
Speaker 2: name so by So I won't say the guy, but
Speaker 2: I will say that his brother is famous. Okay. So
Speaker 2: we went on two or three dates. But we've known
Speaker 2: each other for fifteen years, and every now and then
Speaker 2: we'll be like, why are we not dating?
Speaker 1: We're always single?
Speaker 2: And then we'll go out and then it's just nothing
Speaker 2: is there and no one knows why. But it's just
Speaker 2: not there anyway. After fifteen years or maybe even twenty
Speaker 2: that I've known him, he thinks my name is Sicily.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and that's probably not gonna help. Not
Speaker 2: his fault, you know, it's just how it goes sometimes.
Speaker 1: But did you ever correct him? Now, Well, that would
Speaker 1: be hard if you never said, like, you know, you're
Speaker 1: saying my name wrong. But I guess after a certain
Speaker 1: amount of time has passed, it's really difficult. It's kind
Speaker 1: of embarrassing.
Speaker 2: We've gone on like three dates, I mean over like
Speaker 2: I said, fifteen years. I mean one was like we
Speaker 2: went and got pie. One we went and got a drink,
Speaker 2: which was my idea, that's more fun for me. And
Speaker 2: then one was just like a coffee date, like more
Speaker 2: of a friendship date. But yeah, he's said my name
Speaker 2: and he said it was Cecily every time over many years.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I mean, we do text and it
Speaker 2: should be Cecily in his phone.
Speaker 1: Well it's not. The pronunciation won't be in there right, right,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't face.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you just get in your head you're like,
Speaker 2: don't say it wrong, don't say it wrong, and then
Speaker 2: you say it wrong. It's probably why we can't go
Speaker 2: out again because he's like, I just can't understand her name.
Speaker 1: It's it's so weird. It's just never I mean, I've
Speaker 1: had other I know, I know you're always surprised by this,
Speaker 1: but you know I have had numerous friends named Cecily
Speaker 1: through the years. I haven't.
Speaker 2: That's that is weird to me. I don't know any
Speaker 2: other Cecily's that I know. Well, I know you have
Speaker 2: a friend, but other than that, I've never met one
Speaker 2: I have other than Cecily Strong. That was the first
Speaker 2: time I was like, there we go.
Speaker 1: I have a friend. And also, remember I think I've
Speaker 1: told I've told you this before. There was a blogger
Speaker 1: that I knew kind of well for a while, and
Speaker 1: so in my email I used to say if I
Speaker 1: had to send an email, I often sent it to
Speaker 1: the wrong Cecily, and then she would write to me
Speaker 1: and go, I don't think you meant to send this
Speaker 1: to me, And I'd be like, oh no, I didn't
Speaker 1: write it. Does have? She was very annoyed about She
Speaker 1: would get really annoyed about it. So I will yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so I won't. I actually won't say. She
Speaker 1: was a friend, acquaintance, that would get out. That would
Speaker 1: be like you did it again. Oh my god, relax,
Speaker 1: I know. Sorry.
Speaker 2: One time I did get any I got a wrong email,
Speaker 2: so it was someone named Cecily, but it was sent
Speaker 2: to me and it was from the people that own
Speaker 2: my apartment building and way up, not like the landlord,
Speaker 2: but like you know, fake name like corporations. They don't
Speaker 2: use their it's it's so shady. And they were selling
Speaker 2: the building and it was like it was just out
Speaker 2: of a movie, like a villain like the cell has
Speaker 2: The sale has gone through for nine million dollars. Sure
Speaker 2: got it, And I'm like, uh, wrong, Cecily, what the
Speaker 2: fuck get you know that's like to lawyers and shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: named Sutton?
Speaker 2: No, but I do like the name. I don't hate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I don't hate the name.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: I've never heard it before other than isn't there like
Speaker 2: a Sutton?
Speaker 1: Isn't there like a wine? I don't know, but is it?
Speaker 1: Is it like a rich person's name?
Speaker 2: It sounds a rich people name. And I don't hate it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's not totally made up. Like she know
Speaker 2: she's older, so she somebody named her something. I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's a Southern thing. I'm sure it's a I'm sure,
Speaker 2: I almost said so. I'm sure it's like a surname.
Speaker 2: How do you say it in the States? Like a
Speaker 2: last name. But I'm sure it was like a paternal
Speaker 2: name that was just used.
Speaker 1: When I don't hate it's I say that because it's
Speaker 1: going It leads to a macro note that I have,
Speaker 1: which I I don't know that. I feel bad about
Speaker 1: this opinion, but I wish I didn't have it. But
Speaker 1: I really really don't like Suddin and I already didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how much I didn't like her
Speaker 1: last season, and I don't trust her. Well, I just
Speaker 1: I think she sucks. I think she's very mean. I
Speaker 1: think she's one of the meanest housewives I've seen in
Speaker 1: a long time. And that's saying a lot, but because
Speaker 1: I feel like other housewives are mean, but there's behind
Speaker 1: it is like, oh, I'm I know, but my job
Speaker 1: is on a real housewives show, so I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be kind of I'm supposed to be kind of a bitch,
Speaker 1: like a Lisa Renna type. I have a feeling and
Speaker 1: I've actually heard that Lisa, Lisa Renna is not that
Speaker 1: is nice in person, like, oh, super nice, seemingly yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I'm not surprised by that, but I think
Speaker 1: she just got caught up in I'm not really diff Lisa,
Speaker 1: and I didn't really like her at the end, but
Speaker 1: of course time heals all wounds. Now I think back
Speaker 1: fondly and go, we kind of need her, but totally do.
Speaker 1: But Sutton is one of those people that is like
Speaker 1: you see it seething under the surface. She just is mean,
Speaker 1: but then also has thin as skin, which it's like,
Speaker 1: I just these people that are so high maintenance that
Speaker 1: constantly feel attacked. She's like that, but yet she's so mean.
Speaker 1: Like if you want to be really sensitive and kind
Speaker 1: of be the vulnerable friend that's like, oh, don't hurt
Speaker 1: my feelings. You know, I'm kind of insecure, fine, but
Speaker 1: then don't be a cunt to everybody and say the
Speaker 1: absolute meanest things. They're like, well, my wallet's bigger than you.
Speaker 1: Don't say stuff like that, but then be like, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm just super insecure, like be careful.
Speaker 2: Doesn't even with the wallet thing from last year, it
Speaker 2: never even made sense. I mean, what a burn it
Speaker 2: was such a thing that not someone said it just
Speaker 2: felt so calculated. I agree, she's totally mean, but it
Speaker 2: didn't even seem like an in the moment, like a
Speaker 2: like a Chevy Chase. By the way, if you haven't
Speaker 2: listened to our two part Chevy Chase documentary breakdown, it's
Speaker 2: the best you're gonna find.
Speaker 1: You know what. Somebody wrote on my for Crying Out
Speaker 1: Loud facebook page that they watched the Chevy Chase documentary
Speaker 1: and even though they've heard all the things about him,
Speaker 1: it made them like him more. And then somebody else
Speaker 1: was like, you've got to listen to Stephanie and Cecily's
Speaker 1: Rose Pricks coverage of this their cringe. They actually called
Speaker 1: it their their cringe content on this. They get it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that some more people are feeling this way.
Speaker 1: Oh another thing, last night, John sent me this like
Speaker 1: story from the you know whatever the gossip page is
Speaker 1: about how they're really pulling out this whole thing of
Speaker 1: how he was rude to the how Chevy was rude
Speaker 1: to the interviewer and when he said like, well, you're
Speaker 1: not that bright, and I was like, no, he was
Speaker 1: being very dry, like yeah, yeah, he's kind of a dick.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't like, he wasn't in a fight with
Speaker 1: the interviewer. He was just being him. He was just
Speaker 1: being Chevy. And the fact that they're pulling this out, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, proof that he's the worst person ever.
Speaker 1: It's like, really, when you got Trump running around, when
Speaker 1: you got like.
Speaker 2: Like, let's all write the internet man, that's the mob mentality.
Speaker 2: By the way, this comedian wrote on threads and it
Speaker 2: really made me laugh, and I'm trying to become friends
Speaker 2: with him. He wrote, Chevy Chase was always nice to me.
Speaker 2: When I was cold, he gave me shelter, when I
Speaker 2: was hungry, he gave me food. When I had leprosy,
Speaker 2: he cured me, and then he gave the ultimate sacrifice
Speaker 2: so that all my misdeeds may be forgiven. Chevy loves me,
Speaker 2: and I wear a tiny statue of him nailed to
Speaker 2: a fucking wall to remind me that Chevy is always
Speaker 2: in my heart.
Speaker 1: I just think it's hilarious how people are so mad
Speaker 1: at him, and we just we had a slightly different.
Speaker 2: Take, got a very different take, And I stand and
Speaker 2: I sent you something I sent you. I think on
Speaker 2: threads about like an article that was like, why are
Speaker 2: we like railing on Chevy?
Speaker 1: How is Bill Murray slipping through as this like hero, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, we love too. If they did a
Speaker 1: documentary about Bill Murray, we would be equally as trying
Speaker 1: to do it totally. I dare someone, I dare you
Speaker 1: to do a documentary about Bill Murray and what a
Speaker 1: Dicky is and I will watch the shit out of
Speaker 1: it and stand for him. Yes, same, because that's what
Speaker 1: we do. That's what we do. But anyway, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, like, unlike Chevy Chase, Sutton is actually
Speaker 1: an asshole and she's not trying to be funny and
Speaker 1: she's never dry. She's just a yach that doesn't know
Speaker 1: how she comes across. And I'm not here for it.
Speaker 1: And listen, I can dislike Amanda very strongly and Sutton
Speaker 1: at the same time, I can do tooth. I can
Speaker 1: multitask like a motherfucker, and I don't like either of them. There,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back a little tiny bit and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get so mad.
Speaker 2: But that's fine. We agreed on he never forget, and
Speaker 2: we also agreed on Diddy. We both liked him a lot,
Speaker 2: and we think he's misundersted. I had a different take
Speaker 2: on Sutton. Now I realized at a certain point, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm being had. She's trying to reinvent her says, they're
Speaker 2: going with it. I get it, but I didn't. I
Speaker 2: think that my dislike for Amanda is so strong that
Speaker 2: I was like, well, but then again, I mean, you
Speaker 2: and I disagree on Erica. She's also really really mean,
Speaker 2: and I kind of enjoyed that she is more chevy
Speaker 2: to me, even though he didn't take victims money and
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 1: That's really not great.
Speaker 2: But like, if you took that part out of it,
Speaker 2: if you took that part out of it, and she
Speaker 2: was just bitchy Erica before we knew about all the
Speaker 2: time stuff, yeah, I still kind of liked it. I
Speaker 2: was like, just kind of, she's just she's just I
Speaker 2: am caring, you know, like she's just who she is,
Speaker 2: and there's something to.
Speaker 1: That in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I can't explain it because she's but I can't quite
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Within the Housewives cast, Oh yes, I think that Sutton
Speaker 1: is trying to be more manipulative and it's I'm just
Speaker 1: seeing through it. And you're not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem, Like you're just you can't see
Speaker 2: I'm going with the editing. I'm just going with editing,
Speaker 2: and I'm very easily fooled, and I.
Speaker 1: Just okay, let's get into it. Okay.
Speaker 2: I was annoyed Macro from the beginning. I was annoyed
Speaker 2: that they just slow mo catchups. I hate just trying
Speaker 2: to show them like they're they're just like us, Like
Speaker 2: what's her name, Erica does laundry. I'm like, we don't
Speaker 2: need this filler, no one. You guys were off for
Speaker 2: two weeks. We deserve better than this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I have a question opening scenes for
Speaker 1: the first thing, we see bows, which I was like,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, okay, so they're really trying to
Speaker 1: make bows happen more this season. But then she didn't
Speaker 1: really not really nothing in this whole episode. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually had to take no because I watched half
Speaker 2: last night and then half this morning, and I had
Speaker 2: to kind of was like, was Bose even in this
Speaker 2: until we got to like her getting her fertility? Yeah,
Speaker 2: which I do want to say Macro on that. I
Speaker 2: think it's great that she's continuing to show us the journey.
Speaker 2: Maybe wearing a boostia that tightens up your ovary like
Speaker 2: squeezes your INNERDS isn't great for whatever, like the you know,
Speaker 2: the injection site. I'm not saying it's going to change
Speaker 2: the outcome, but like, ouch, well you need to do
Speaker 2: all that, do all that.
Speaker 1: We haven't heard that she's pregnant, right, so maybe like
Speaker 1: I love her, you know I love her? Solved it.
Speaker 2: I do love her, but I also want to give
Speaker 2: another macro. Right from the jump, I oh, this is
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to talk to you about this
Speaker 2: because I was getting triggered myself by Jennifer Tilly constantly
Speaker 2: telling Sutton, who has just told us she would like
Speaker 2: to drink less. She is aware that she has an issue.
Speaker 2: She's not ready to be full sober, but she's she's
Speaker 2: she's hearing people, and she's working on it. And Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilly will not shut up about drinking to Sutton specifically,
Speaker 2: and is the worst.
Speaker 1: Well you know, so rude. Well thank god, yes, it's
Speaker 1: it's coming from all sides, but Jennifer Tilly of all
Speaker 1: people especially, and well, let's let's wait, because okay, I
Speaker 1: do have a lot to say about that. I was
Speaker 1: really mad about that. From the very beginning, his son
Speaker 1: makes this huge thing like I'm less drinking. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I'll have wine here and there if it's very
Speaker 1: good or whatever, until he's like that, open to champagne
Speaker 1: and drink it. Our FEUs have twenty bottles of champe Yes,
Speaker 1: how much he can the champagne? And did did you
Speaker 1: drink it? Choosh? I know why you have a tool lurky? Yes? Okay. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Tilly has also lost a lot of weight, and
Speaker 1: uh and I well, I think it's interesting that they're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course we know how GLP. That's all for it.
Speaker 1: That's fine, But why won't they mention it?
Speaker 2: Right if everybody has to has to tell every other
Speaker 2: fucking story, yeah, including every person they've ever gone on.
Speaker 1: A date with. And they almost do at one point
Speaker 1: because somebody says to Jennifer Tilly, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: look amazing, and then he says it yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they just skip out of the scene. I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but first, before we even get there, I am so
Speaker 1: caught up at the beginning of this. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear all about Rachel's kids. Every fucking episode. I
Speaker 1: don't care about Caius and his I the cutest kid.
Speaker 1: Mommy is my IQ or EQ hot?
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I don't. And she's always like, my kids
Speaker 2: are crazy. I want a Daughter's about like luck of
Speaker 2: the draw. I have these like two crazy boys. I know,
Speaker 2: mom by mom hashtag mom. I'm like, my kids are amazing.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Uh my son Kyas, I can't
Speaker 2: be away from him for one minute. I don't have
Speaker 2: a nanny, Yes you do. You fucking have a nanny.
Speaker 2: Which is the one who has a mother's helper.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a Amanda Okay, I but she of
Speaker 1: course has a nanny. How else does she go to
Speaker 1: her fucking job eighty hours a week anyway? Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, so now we're at the part, yes we're
Speaker 1: Ston says she's quitting drinking. Oh no, She says that
Speaker 1: she quit for a while, but now she's kind of
Speaker 1: reintroduced it and she'll just drink a little bit. But
Speaker 1: she's trying to be I think that it's a start.
Speaker 2: She was listening and she's aware, and I think it's,
Speaker 2: you know, baby steps, And I got to give her that.
Speaker 2: She talked about it on camera. It's probably not that easy.
Speaker 2: She obviously, and I'm going to say this, I mean
Speaker 2: we saw her, you know, bringing flasks into parties and
Speaker 2: falling downstairs. She is an alcoholic, right, and she's slowly
Speaker 2: addressing it. So you don't need a friend like Tilly
Speaker 2: doing that shit. No, it's not nice.
Speaker 1: And especially and I'm gonna I'll stand up for her here,
Speaker 1: but you know, she was so defensive about being an
Speaker 1: alcoholic and people sing her drinking with her, So why
Speaker 1: don't we celebrate the fact that she's being more open
Speaker 1: and like acknowledging it instead of just drinking at people
Speaker 1: and just being like, well, fuck you, I'm not an alcoholic,
Speaker 1: but I'll drink all I want. She's actually trying. So
Speaker 1: being somebody that said you thought she was had an
Speaker 1: alcohol problem, why would you not be more supportive? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which she says she's like, uh, Basically she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I've lost my drinking buddy. But it's probably a
Speaker 1: good thing. I mean to say, well, why don't you
Speaker 1: tell other people that it's a good thing? Shut up? Anyway,
Speaker 1: hate Jennifer Tilley, but also don't like Sutton. And now
Speaker 1: Sutton is doing her part about like I just want
Speaker 1: I just want to be a different person now, I
Speaker 1: just want to be naster. I want to be I
Speaker 1: want to have a better friendship. I want to have
Speaker 1: to be a better friend. You really don't. You just
Speaker 1: don't want to be the villain of this season, right,
Speaker 1: what Erica? Did they all do it? Kyle did it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Over time you're like, oh, I mean the original really
Speaker 2: was Camille Grammar. We've never really seen anything like that.
Speaker 2: She was so awful. Then watched it and was like
Speaker 2: oh and then really worked hard, to the point that
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen even had to say, like, so you kind
Speaker 2: of rewrote yourself into this. Huh Yeah, but she still sucks.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget how she's stuck up for Cat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's the absolute worst. That's no, no question. I don't
Speaker 2: think Sutton as bad as Camille, but it so this
Speaker 2: is striking that same nerve with me, though. It's just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're just doing a fake thing where you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to re remake myself and I'm
Speaker 2: going to have a better edit this time, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to just keep my mouth shut. Now this was this,
Speaker 2: this bothered me.
Speaker 1: The scene, so they're kind of talking and she's saying, like,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to find some touch points
Speaker 1: to have a good relationship with these women, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to take it, take it easy, like,
Speaker 1: you know, not not going too hard, just find some
Speaker 1: touch points. And then Jennifer Tilly goes yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't, Colicky, I wouldn't go in like
Speaker 1: full force, you know, and then Setting immediately gets mad,
Speaker 1: you can't mock me, Stop mocking me. She wasn't mocking you.
Speaker 1: She's trying to have a conversation with you, and she's
Speaker 1: just sort of repeating back what you're saying, which is
Speaker 1: what she said. She's like, totally, I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: rush in and be friends with anybody.
Speaker 2: I can't take people like this where you're like, she's
Speaker 2: like her mom, exactly like her mom. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: she comes by it honestly. And Chilly was being annoying
Speaker 2: in that moment, but I was surprised by Sutton's response.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, everybody calmed down. I didn't even
Speaker 2: think Sean being annoying.
Speaker 1: I thought she was like trying. She she clearly people
Speaker 1: have to walk on eggshells around Sutton and Jennifer Kelly
Speaker 1: even tells us she's like, you know she she goes,
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to mock you, I promise like I
Speaker 1: was just trying to reiterate, like what you're saying. I get.
Speaker 2: I totally see that, But I also think that Tilly
Speaker 2: I was already annoyed with her just being like, and
Speaker 2: I'm a going to open all but like Tequila and dream,
Speaker 2: I was. I think I was just writing a little tipple,
Speaker 2: right Simpsons. So Kyle, let's move on to Kyle going
Speaker 2: to Deret's write for more conversation, and I, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: really I don't have different takes on this too.
Speaker 1: I mightly do, we might not.
Speaker 2: I was a little okay, Derita is on overdrive for sure,
Speaker 2: but and Kyle kind of calmed down and was nice finally,
Speaker 2: But at first I was on deeds side. I hate
Speaker 2: that she has to bend over backwards to make Kyle
Speaker 2: understand that PK is all kinds of awful one hundred
Speaker 2: percent agree.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that makes me feel seen. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, why does Dared have to fucking repeat
Speaker 1: every time she's around Kyle, why does what Kyle is
Speaker 1: being such an underminer, very.
Speaker 2: Passive aggressive, making it kind of gaslighting her.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's always nice to me. I don't
Speaker 1: know y being.
Speaker 2: Something like her face doesn't move, so we don't know
Speaker 2: how she's feeling.
Speaker 1: But she'll just be like yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could talk to like Mo or you know,
Speaker 2: trying to like like fake calm, like she's the one
Speaker 2: who always has all the answers and dere it's just
Speaker 2: the mess which may or may not be true. But
Speaker 2: as Deurite said, she's like, if you told me Moe
Speaker 2: was an asshole, I'd be like fuck him, and I
Speaker 2: believe her, and that is the way friendships should be.
Speaker 2: That is sisterhood. So that just pisses me off.
Speaker 1: Kyle. Also, she's just Kyle is getting divorced from Mo
Speaker 1: and he's out sleeping with everybody on the planet who's
Speaker 1: you know, in front of the age of thirty, and
Speaker 1: you're going to defend him like, oh yeah, well Mo's
Speaker 1: so Moe's the voice of reason. He's out partying with
Speaker 1: p K, probably doing coke like all over the place,
Speaker 1: But that's who you're that's who you're gonna trust over
Speaker 1: dread and what Darte's telling you, right, And I don't
Speaker 1: mind that she has a good relationship with Mo, like
Speaker 1: I think that that's great, but I just yeah, the
Speaker 1: she just looks at her like and then I've been
Speaker 1: that friend of DEI where you're just spinning trying to
Speaker 1: make them understand but.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, but but but yeah yeah yeah, And
Speaker 2: then no one everyone's just like, okay, girl, yes it
Speaker 2: takes some new time.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know here. But then I was annoyed
Speaker 1: at Dret because she's like, I'm so worried about my finances.
Speaker 1: You know what, how am I going to pay my bills?
Speaker 1: Great senses you're on you're the star, I mean what
Speaker 1: a co star of one of the biggest shows on Bravo.
Speaker 1: You're making How much did they make?
Speaker 2: What do they make per episode? And they do make
Speaker 2: different they have different contracts. It's not like friends where
Speaker 2: they all band together.
Speaker 1: Me up.
Speaker 2: What, yeah, curious is because Kyle makes more than make
Speaker 2: definite episode.
Speaker 1: I will, Yes, she does. She earns one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars per season. Oh that's not that much.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of film, she has this huge if
Speaker 2: PK's frozen their assets or like god only knows how
Speaker 2: much debt they're in that her name is now signed
Speaker 2: to kind of like Teresa, she has responsibility in that.
Speaker 1: You're still, that's not that much money.
Speaker 2: She's not man and that's not that much at all,
Speaker 2: because they let's say they filmed for a few months,
Speaker 2: but it's a lot of time that they have to
Speaker 2: put into that where they can't really be doing other things.
Speaker 2: Not really if she doesn't have, like if her business
Speaker 2: never took off because PK fucked that up.
Speaker 1: And whatever else.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying Darite doesn't have, but she
Speaker 2: also stayed home and like raised kids with nanny's. Don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, I mean, there's no victim here. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's like, yeah, it's not that much.
Speaker 2: She should be worried about her finances. He's fucking her over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, not paying any of the bills. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you're right. It's very Jack's Britney Sitch and you know
Speaker 1: who well, like occasionally I remember and.
Speaker 2: If we're referring to vander Pomp Slash the Valley, but
Speaker 2: Brittany had to have those moments where she's like, y'all
Speaker 2: know to listen.
Speaker 1: To me about Darks.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a couple of people like Schwartz were just like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's lovable, though no he's not.
Speaker 1: I agree agree Also probably both those guys are are
Speaker 1: sort of sort of druggies. But then okay, but then
Speaker 1: Kyle it basically says like she says that she's here
Speaker 1: in kind of Moe's side, and then they show you
Speaker 1: this clip from a podcast where do she ask podcast
Speaker 1: with like the guys, and there is this scene where
Speaker 1: PK is like, yeah, she doesn't really understand like that
Speaker 1: I'm sober, like right, And what that means is that
Speaker 1: they're yeah, I understood, yeah. When he's like yeah, she's
Speaker 1: going around saying like, well, okay, because there's gonna be
Speaker 1: this whole thing right now where they're all coming for
Speaker 1: Derey for trashing PK to anyone who will listen, and
Speaker 1: they're all like, that's not a good idea, like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that because she's gonna and Kyle's saying it.
Speaker 1: In this moment, she's like, you know, she's saying these
Speaker 1: horrible things about PK, and it's not smart it's gonna
Speaker 1: make it harder for the divorce down the line then,
Speaker 1: you know, basically, because she was going like, hey, he's
Speaker 1: a full blown alcoholic and then they show you PK
Speaker 1: going it's not really it, that's not really a thing,
Speaker 1: like you're an alcoholic, but I will I sort of
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I do too. I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say though, that that's not really true, because she's saying
Speaker 1: like there's a difference between somebody who's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: acknowledging I have an alcohol issue. Like listen, we would
Speaker 1: say that Sutton is an alcoholic, and luckily she's starting
Speaker 1: to address it. But PK was pretty bad. Getting DUIs
Speaker 1: like just out of control and probably also doing a
Speaker 1: lot of drugs, probably cocaine I don't know, allegedly, and
Speaker 1: that is worse. I think it's fair for her, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's not just dealing with some addiction issues. The problem
Speaker 1: with a split like this, and this is going to
Speaker 1: be an issue for her, and maybe Kyle is right
Speaker 1: in trying to guide her to calm down a little
Speaker 1: bit on camera, you know, like a girl, you know
Speaker 1: you want the kids right, you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that Dark can't have been
Speaker 1: totally innocent in all of his dealings. So when she's
Speaker 1: going to try to bring him down, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that she won't break up the robbery because
Speaker 1: she can't. She probably didn't know but found out later
Speaker 1: and then had to cover for him about the robbery.
Speaker 2: But then she'd go down for fraud on that, right,
Speaker 2: you know, So which's only she's like, we don't want
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: This can't go to court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she says that, and that's a threat, but like
Speaker 2: he might call her out and go, Okay, go for it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you go. If I go, you go. He's
Speaker 2: not going to lie. There's no way around it. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, the same exactly what happened, Well, it's not
Speaker 2: what happened with Joe and Teresa on Jersey because Teresa
Speaker 2: is just an idiot. It was like, I know, and
Speaker 2: y'all was saying that, you know, like she's just like
Speaker 2: she's not even she didn't even play that game, right,
Speaker 2: She's just like, I guess I'll go to prison and
Speaker 2: do yoga.
Speaker 1: Okay, which she did.
Speaker 2: She did, and then she was really nice when she
Speaker 2: came out of prison for a while and then she
Speaker 2: went right back to being horrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I stopped watching that one so many years before
Speaker 1: I did too. Well, it's off now. It ended so
Speaker 1: poorly that they just didn't even have like a reunion.
Speaker 1: They were like, Okay, we're gonna reboot this. Oh is
Speaker 1: that true?
Speaker 2: So there's no boundary, not that I don't think it's
Speaker 2: coming back unless they worked something out. It just became excruciating.
Speaker 2: They have like a new one where the daughter Jia,
Speaker 2: she has she had a show about the young ones,
Speaker 2: you know, next gen and yeah, and it's really bad.
Speaker 1: Okay, so all.
Speaker 2: Right, so they're talking about the expenses. Then we go
Speaker 2: over to your favorite Rachel Zoe. She has to pick
Speaker 2: up his name Klaus yeah. Uh, and then Skyler and Caius.
Speaker 2: She's on a she does a face time with Guyler
Speaker 2: zooms in from the Hamptons. It says, for some reason,
Speaker 2: we have to know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, please tell me not an e bike.
Speaker 1: You're crazy? You had an mom, it's an ee bike.
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh my god. They see me as
Speaker 2: their princess.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to say.
Speaker 2: That I'm their princess and queen? And they like saved
Speaker 2: my life every day. I never thought that hashtag book
Speaker 2: and I would just REI she dressed up like this
Speaker 2: for the Zoom call, because she's always.
Speaker 1: Dressed up because she's Rachel Zoh. I die hashtag. They
Speaker 1: hold me when I didn't even know I needed to
Speaker 1: be helped. I needed and they press not romantically. That's griss.
Speaker 1: This is my kids. I die.
Speaker 2: And then now all of a sudden, bad editing, we're
Speaker 2: en route to Kathy's party, which has never been discussed
Speaker 2: or anything. Nope, as far as I remember, no one
Speaker 2: ever said like, oh, we have Kathy's party tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: Now it's just in a car, different people en route
Speaker 2: to Kathy Hilton's. And did you no time to talk
Speaker 2: about the Hiltons or do we just not get because
Speaker 2: I know it's not kathy fault, but we can.
Speaker 1: But also it was just interesting that like it seemed like,
Speaker 1: well Kyle didn't go. It seemed like some people were
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, that because it was two of
Speaker 1: the friends of we had to make a scene with
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton, who's a friend of Jennifer Tilley, is a
Speaker 1: friend of an.
Speaker 2: Amanda's brand friend. Yeah, she's part of it now, yeah,
Speaker 2: they gave her a thing, but she's now.
Speaker 1: So it was like, basically, so we have to watch
Speaker 1: a scene with basically side characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like every you know, not that there were
Speaker 2: any side characters on Friends, but occasionally, like Phoebe and
Speaker 2: Joey would just do their own thing and be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, let's get back to Ross. I really I'm
Speaker 1: very in the minority on that.
Speaker 2: I love Lisa Kudreaux and The Comeback is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite shows, and I just love her as a human.
Speaker 2: But I didn't really love the character of Phoebe and
Speaker 2: I never really understand the stood why.
Speaker 1: I do neither because it was too over the top.
Speaker 1: It was too much, didn't make it.
Speaker 2: It's like Framer, like, I get why these three are friends,
Speaker 2: but why is I mean, this is.
Speaker 1: Okay, I listen. I think that is such a valid
Speaker 1: side quest that we just went on, and I stand
Speaker 1: by talking about that. It's important. Not enough people mentioned
Speaker 1: that she was doing over the top character on a
Speaker 1: show that wasn't really over the top characters, right.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes they'd have their moments and their catchphrases and
Speaker 2: it was still a very multikami, you know, like Studio
Speaker 2: audience thing. But yeah, she is just like, well, okay, Joey,
Speaker 2: I could kind of understand, like overall actors, and he
Speaker 2: just got into the gang and he's a little dumb.
Speaker 1: Yes, but Phoebe's like, okay, we get it, we get
Speaker 1: Joey had to say a moment too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Lisa Kudro's character Phoebe was always everything was
Speaker 1: super over the top.
Speaker 2: Even the real moment of her carrying the babies for
Speaker 2: her brother, like that was annoying to me. It's like,
Speaker 2: what are we doing? Okay, you guys, let's go back
Speaker 2: to the Real Housewives. Okay, so they're on They're going
Speaker 2: to Kathy's party, which is just ridiculous. Right, So first,
Speaker 2: and I just I just made a side note, Fuck
Speaker 2: the Hilton's. We don't really have to go into that
Speaker 2: right now. I know that it's not specifically Rick and
Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton that are making policy decisions, but I don't
Speaker 2: know that we want to derail to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess not. We don't like Kathy Hilton. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes Kathy Hilton. And by the way, we believed Lisa
Speaker 1: Renna and oh yeah, we talked about Lisa Rena early
Speaker 1: in this episode or was that was that before we restarted? Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it might have been. Well, I was oh so hard
Speaker 1: to remember what we what we've talked about, But I
Speaker 1: was standing up for Lisa Renna and saying that, yeah,
Speaker 1: that even though that she was being a bitch, but
Speaker 1: she was she she was playing a bitch. I think
Speaker 1: she's just an actress and we needed her on that ledge.
Speaker 1: And she told us some stuff about Kathy Hilton's behavior
Speaker 1: that then Kathy Hilton tried to tried to gaslight us
Speaker 1: and tell us none of it was true. We all
Speaker 1: know it was true. All I do also want to
Speaker 1: say this.
Speaker 2: I think it is important she says the N word,
Speaker 2: she's said the F word, and I do want to
Speaker 2: say and I don't have to go into the whole
Speaker 2: ICE thing, but things are just too crazy right now
Speaker 2: to not like say that the Hiltons have been complied
Speaker 2: the Hilton Hotel and they're whoever they're CEO, whoever's in charge,
Speaker 2: has decided to comply with ICE and they can just
Speaker 2: go into any room like it's it's really fucked up
Speaker 2: to the point that Fox just reported.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say this. I looked it up.
Speaker 2: Please do the Hampton This is crazy. The Hampton Inn
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, which I've stayed at. I did a book
Speaker 2: tour and I stayed at that exact Hampton In in Minneapolis,
Speaker 2: which I think is crazy. The Hilton Hotels are now
Speaker 2: tearing down the sign of the Hampton In because they
Speaker 2: don't want to have anything to do with it. Because
Speaker 2: the Hampton Inn that property refused Ice. They were like,
Speaker 2: you can't come into our properties. No, they stood their
Speaker 2: ground with Ice, and now Hilton is now Hilton. Instead
Speaker 2: of doing the right thing, they're literally going the other way.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say about Ice. They know what
Speaker 2: people are talking about, and they're like, yeah, we don't
Speaker 2: want to be associated with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by them, I fuck them, Buckeyes, Buck Hilton, fuck Kathy.
Speaker 1: So here we are at her beautiful party.
Speaker 2: And then like Andy, you know, at a certain point,
Speaker 2: I know that Kathy Hill. I know she's not responsible
Speaker 2: for that. She has nothing to do with that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. She really doesn't.
Speaker 1: She just married a guy. You're probably horrible though, Well.
Speaker 2: I just I can't get over the N word I've
Speaker 2: never used. You know, you don't just casually say that
Speaker 2: and if she said it when there were cameras around,
Speaker 2: and Lisa Renna, who I totally believe, heard it, then
Speaker 2: imagine what she says when the cameras are not around.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Same with her stupid daughter and the f
Speaker 1: slur and just the way that she behaves and her
Speaker 1: meltdowns and like going crazy on people. I kind of
Speaker 1: believe Kyle. I think she is. This is just a
Speaker 1: dysfunctional family. It is and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying she's not above like redemption,
Speaker 2: but she's not really trying to. She never she's not
Speaker 2: smart enough to like rede and go hey, just for
Speaker 2: the record, I you know, I don't believe in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, also killing people. I don't like her brand manager either.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way she talks. I don't like
Speaker 1: how obsequious she is to Kathy Hilton. I didn't like
Speaker 1: the scene where Kathy's like looking at the table that
Speaker 1: the brand manager set and then she's like, hmm, I
Speaker 1: don't I want blue ribbons, blue ribbons around these little
Speaker 1: salsa bottles whatever she's giving away. Also, and this is
Speaker 1: jumping ahead for a minute, but she's going to give
Speaker 1: everybody these like bags full of crap and weren't you
Speaker 1: thinking like I don't want that. I don't want to
Speaker 1: fucking get goodie bag. We're not it's not the Emmys,
Speaker 1: like right, I don't want a little bottle of like
Speaker 1: random salsa with a B or the love a goodie bag.
Speaker 1: I will push back on that.
Speaker 2: I will take any any chance, even if it's like
Speaker 2: and half the time it's water bottle branded with whatever
Speaker 2: they're sending out. We stood in a little bag and
Speaker 2: I'm like, hell, yeah, they're gonna throw it away.
Speaker 1: These women are gonna throw it away. And also like
Speaker 1: a little baseball like a trucker hat like that says
Speaker 1: like her brand on it, like no, fuck off, I
Speaker 1: don't want your shit. That's gonna just end up rolling
Speaker 1: around in the back of my car, right uh.
Speaker 2: Also, I hate when Tilly and was it Sutton and
Speaker 2: Tilly kimp did they come together?
Speaker 1: When? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think when they walk in I literally I wrote
Speaker 2: I hate how dismissive both of them are to the butler.
Speaker 1: Yes, I noticed it.
Speaker 2: And I noticed it like Tilly's supposed to be like
Speaker 2: she's just like one of us, She's quirking, she's just
Speaker 2: gonna tell it like it is no, she didn't. She
Speaker 2: wouldn't even make eye contact, just strolled right by.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now it's possible they had to do the shot twice
Speaker 2: or five times. This is a show we do forget,
Speaker 2: and I've seen that happen. I've seen Beverly Hills and
Speaker 2: vander Pump both being filmed before, and I've seen them
Speaker 2: have to like reach like resio, like hold hold for sound.
Speaker 2: I mean, they are filming a show, so it's possible
Speaker 2: they had to do that like five times. And maybe
Speaker 2: by that point she's like okay, yeah. If it were
Speaker 2: me on camera, though, every time, I'd be like hello,
Speaker 2: thank you, Yeah, just to make sure, but yeah, but
Speaker 2: to be fair, I didn't like that. So then so
Speaker 2: they are all discussing Jennifer Tilly's naked model party, Yes,
Speaker 2: the naked penises. And then I wrote that when so
Speaker 2: Amanda comes over, gets there and I noticed that Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilly is doing her like let's open all the bottles.
Speaker 2: Yeah I want I wrote that way to be a
Speaker 2: friend Tilly right in front of him, Like, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying she can't drink. I drink around sober friends, but
Speaker 2: I can't imagine if you had newly come to me
Speaker 2: and you were just freshly kind of questioning your relationship
Speaker 2: with alcohol. And we went out, you know, and said
Speaker 2: that to me, I wouldn't be like, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't be like, I want line right now,
Speaker 1: let's open Oh. She literally says, let's open as many
Speaker 1: bottles as possible. Yes, let's open all the champagne. She's
Speaker 1: sitting right next to Sutton, who's just fucking told you,
Speaker 1: I'm really trying not to drink right now, I want
Speaker 1: some sparkling water. And she's like, Alan Elder, let's tonight,
Speaker 1: let's open all of your champagne. Why would say that,
Speaker 1: I don't actually three o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll just we're going late.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then Amanda shows up in I just put a
Speaker 2: missus roper like a moo moo. Yes, And I'm not
Speaker 2: seased with and I guess I made this notice that
Speaker 2: she knows she's the villain. I feel like she can't
Speaker 2: possibly be this terrible. She's putting on a show. She
Speaker 2: read the book, she knows how to be the person
Speaker 2: on the show, and that's what she's doing. There's no
Speaker 2: way Amanda, this nightmare yes.
Speaker 1: Oh, I disagree. You think she's great. This is the
Speaker 1: first time I'm going to push back. I think against you.
Speaker 1: I think that she doesn't have any idea how she
Speaker 1: comes across. I think she thought in her mind that
Speaker 1: she's got just enough like I tell it like it is,
Speaker 1: and that she's kind of gonna be a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air to these ladies. I'm younger, like I'm super
Speaker 1: successful in my business, and I think she's being set
Speaker 1: up like the things that she's said. I think she
Speaker 1: just has no idea that she comes across like such
Speaker 1: so badly. I don't think she knows she's a one
Speaker 1: upper as they're going to start pointing out. I think
Speaker 1: she's trying desperately to fit in, but also to be
Speaker 1: like I stand up to these ladies. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell I disagree. I'm going to push back so hard.
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm not mad at you. It sounded
Speaker 1: like I was mad. I'm super mad at you, which I.
Speaker 2: Don't like a man. I'm mad at Amanda. I mean,
Speaker 2: even just starting with the Kyle, it was little things
Speaker 2: like Kathy. As much as I don't love her, like,
Speaker 2: she's being very welcoming and warm in her house, and.
Speaker 1: Then Amanda's just everything.
Speaker 2: She's like, Yeah, I mean like when we bought Kyle's has,
Speaker 2: I mean we're just like, let's fix all the shit.
Speaker 2: You know. You see Kathy's eyes like, excuse me. I
Speaker 2: mean that's just not something you say. Either, she's she's
Speaker 2: trying to be a villain and get the villain edit
Speaker 2: or she's just the biggest moron ever and just the
Speaker 2: worst person.
Speaker 1: So we think she's the one. She's so dumb. That's
Speaker 1: just a dumb thing more on and not a great
Speaker 1: person given what she does for a living. She scams people.
Speaker 1: She sells workshops that are thousands and thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: about how to manifest money. She's she's basically doing the
Speaker 1: secret and charging people a lot of money for it.
Speaker 1: It's so gross. I can't She's terrible, But I think
Speaker 1: she's just so grandiose, Like I don't think that she
Speaker 1: I think she thinks people are going to bond with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this house and I had to do a
Speaker 1: lot to kind of make it mine, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't think she will not even make it mine, like
Speaker 1: make it work, like make it good.
Speaker 2: Kyle has a great taste. We can say whatever we
Speaker 2: want but her houses and are like, she she knows
Speaker 2: what she's doing. Amanda doesn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so well but before we get there, Before
Speaker 1: we even get there, I thought, okay, so she Oh,
Speaker 1: so the producers ask her, which I thought was very sneaky.
Speaker 1: They're like, how do you feel about being at Kathy
Speaker 1: Hilbery's house? Oh? Yes, yeah, the producers are doing an
Speaker 1: interview with her, and they which they rarely show the
Speaker 1: producers what the producers are asking, so they did it
Speaker 1: on purpose. They're like, do you feel like do you
Speaker 1: feel like a fish out of water? And Amanda's like, no,
Speaker 1: I belong in any room I want to be in.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel like. She's just she's just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: these people think I'm going to be intimidated by this
Speaker 1: group of women, but I'm not. I'm so great. And
Speaker 1: I do think she's painfully insecure, but trying not to
Speaker 1: show that at all. Right, She's I think she's in
Speaker 1: for a very rude awakening of how she's going to
Speaker 1: come across and she's going to I think she's going
Speaker 1: to be shocked. But then so then Amanda, who does
Speaker 1: have to steal attention all the time. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't have gluten, so so I'm just gonna have cat.
Speaker 1: Then she says something like I've learned that caviar and
Speaker 1: cucumber is really great, and then Sutton goes, I'll just
Speaker 1: have mine the normal way, which okay. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I would probably say something like that, but I would
Speaker 1: be kind of kidding. I would be kind of making
Speaker 1: fun of somebody who's being gluten free. This is where
Speaker 1: I would come off like Chevy Chase, and nobody would
Speaker 1: get that. I'm kind of just being sort of just
Speaker 1: being fun It funny in my mind, and I was
Speaker 1: actually seeing but Sutton's not trying to be funny. She's
Speaker 1: just being a bitch. She doesn't like. I would be
Speaker 1: way worse than that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say i'll have it in normal I'd
Speaker 2: be like, I'll have it the rich person way, Like
Speaker 2: I would be a total even though I'm not rich.
Speaker 2: I'd be so annoyed by Amanda. I'd probably take the
Speaker 2: caviar and like smear it into her eyeballs. That's what
Speaker 2: I would do. That's what I want to do right now.
Speaker 2: Sudden did nothing wrong in that moment. Yeah, I'll just
Speaker 2: have it in normal way. I mean, I thought it
Speaker 2: was kind of funny, it was a little cheeky.
Speaker 1: Should we take a break here, Yes, and come back
Speaker 1: for the rest of this amazing lunch and all right,
Speaker 1: and I say, because most people listen to part two,
Speaker 1: that will do all our shout outs at the end
Speaker 1: of part two. Perfect.
Speaker 2: We will see you in one minute, five minutes, okay,
Speaker 2: by chill out