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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Costs Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, So, as we rolled towards the election on

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<v Speaker 2>November fifth, not only the presidential election, but the state

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<v Speaker 2>elections and maybe some local elections, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>periodically be looking at some of the ballot questions. We

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<v Speaker 2>looked at one of the ballot questions that deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the MCAST requirements, graduation requirement with Matt Hills on Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday evening during the nine o'clock hour. Matt is the

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<v Speaker 2>vice chair of the Massachusetts Secondary and Elementary Education Department. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take a look at another ballot question.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ballid question five, and this is one that

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<v Speaker 2>is quite confusing, and to clarify some of that confusion,

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<v Speaker 2>we have invited Steve Clark, the President and CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>the Massachusetts Restaurant Association, to join us. I'll also tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that we tried to get a representative of another

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<v Speaker 2>group that is on the opposite side of this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>which seems to be a California based group. So first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, Steve, welcome to you. Thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us tonight on Night Side. Thank you. How are you tonight? Dan?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for having me. How are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine. Now can you give me my understanding?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the group that is that is in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of this question, and I don't expect you know you

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<v Speaker 2>to necessarily to us what they're saying, as you're opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Are they a local group or a group

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<v Speaker 2>from out of state? And is there we we had

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<v Speaker 2>a tough time trying to find anyone to join us,

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<v Speaker 2>join you tonight to discuss the topic here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's the story there?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is an organization that came out of California.

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<v Speaker 3>They have filed this question in massachuf this legislative league

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<v Speaker 3>for the last five legislative sessions, for the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>And they've also filed this similar type of legislation in

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen states across the country this year, all of which

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<v Speaker 3>have not adopted this provision. So after not having legislative success,

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<v Speaker 3>they paid about a million dollars to get on the

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<v Speaker 3>ballot for this year.

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<v Speaker 4>And here we are. We are.

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<v Speaker 3>We have balid Question five, which will fundamentally change the

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<v Speaker 3>way full service restaurants operate. They want to change the

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<v Speaker 3>way service and bartenders get paid. And we are we're

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<v Speaker 3>vehemently opposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gon we're gonna We're gonna break it down

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. But I just wanted to emphasize to my

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<v Speaker 2>audience that we have reached out. My producer, Marita aka

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Lightning, she gets to people pretty pretty well. She

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<v Speaker 2>has a note here. The Yes campaign has not responded

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<v Speaker 2>to our request, our request to join the conversation tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's try to Whenever we deal with numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>I found out on on radio it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with numbers. So let's take the situation now in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>If you happen to be working as somebody who's on

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<v Speaker 2>a weight staff, meaning I assume you're somebody who's interacting,

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<v Speaker 2>and if my definition is wrong or if the definition

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be increased or lied more limited, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>waiter waitress that comes up, approaches you at the table

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<v Speaker 2>and says, good evening, welcome to such and such. You

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm going to be a wait person tonight. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're Those are the waiters and bartenders. I assume also.

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<v Speaker 3>People who exactly the people at the front of the

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<v Speaker 3>house of the restaurants that are providing the great service

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<v Speaker 3>and the great hospitality that we've come to expect in

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<v Speaker 3>restaurants across Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so those folks, their minimum wage is six dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five cents. I assume there's nothing that would

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<v Speaker 2>stop a business owner from paying a waiter or a waitress,

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<v Speaker 2>or a bartender who does a particularly good job, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even some particularly bartenders that that people go to the

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<v Speaker 2>bar to interact with the bartender. They can get more

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<v Speaker 2>money if the if the owner wants to pay the

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<v Speaker 2>more money. Correct But the minimum is six twenty five, So.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of corrections, so it's actually six seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>and went up about.

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<v Speaker 4>A year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So six seventy five is the base wage, and that

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<v Speaker 3>assumes that at least eight dollars and twenty five cents

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<v Speaker 3>will be made in tips. But the minimum wage is

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<v Speaker 3>actually fifteen. So when a server comes into the bar

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant and checks in, whether they serve one guest or

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred guests, they're guaranteed fifteen dollars an hour through

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<v Speaker 3>some combination of the hourly wage and the tips. The

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<v Speaker 3>reality is far more than fifteen dollars. We can get

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<v Speaker 3>into that, but that's not what the law.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you're saying is that unless you work

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<v Speaker 2>in the restaurant which is overstaffed and and there's very

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<v Speaker 2>few people coming in the door, it's tough not to

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<v Speaker 2>make fifteen dollars an hour as as a waiter or

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<v Speaker 2>a waitress or a bartender. I think that's what you're applying,

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<v Speaker 2>am I.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Absolutely, it's tough not to make twenty two dollars

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<v Speaker 3>an hour. But yes, the law is you are required

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen dollars per hour regardless of when you work. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a a so called tip wage, and that

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<v Speaker 3>just merely allows the restaurant owner to employ more people

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<v Speaker 3>to provide the full service that comes along in a

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<v Speaker 3>full service restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's assume let's assume some waiter or waitress gets

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<v Speaker 2>let's say they work a four hour ship shift. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>keep it simple, and let's assume that they get sixty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks in tips. Okay, roughly, we'll make it easy. So

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<v Speaker 2>they got fifteen dollars in tips. They will also be

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<v Speaker 2>paid the six dollars and seventy five cents.

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<v Speaker 3>Or exactly, so they're making twenty one seventy five an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So okay, Now, what happens if the waiter or

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<v Speaker 2>waitress is somehow disingenuous and puts some of the tips

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<v Speaker 2>in one pocket and some of the tips in the other.

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<v Speaker 2>How does a restaurant own a control? You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying any waitress or waitress that I have ever

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<v Speaker 2>met would do such a thing, but as a hypersonic question,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it's a hypothetical question. How does the owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the restaurant, who could only have his his or

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<v Speaker 2>her eyes in so many places at any given time,

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<v Speaker 2>how do they know that that?

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<v Speaker 3>So the vast majority of restaurants have are our seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ninety percent credit card, so it's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 3>to hide the cash tips the way people used to

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<v Speaker 3>hide them in the in the seventies and eighties and

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<v Speaker 3>even the nineties. You know, most transactions are happening on

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<v Speaker 3>a credit card, so you're only really seeing ten to

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen percent of all transactions in a given shift our cash.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's actually much easy here to track the

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<v Speaker 3>hours worked and the tips that have come in than

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<v Speaker 3>it was, you know, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that done. I've never worked as a waiter,

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<v Speaker 2>never worked as a waiter, a waitress never worked as

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<v Speaker 2>a waitstaff person. Let's assume that at this day and age,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and I go out to dinners one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put twenty percent of the on the credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>So does the house then understand? Okay, this twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be credited to the waiter a waitress

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<v Speaker 2>that serves that table.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely. And if there's severe penalties, the severe

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<v Speaker 3>penalties both in not paying a serve of the full

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<v Speaker 3>minimum wage. We have triple damages in Massachusetts. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a serious wage violation, a right exactly. And then also

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<v Speaker 3>the tips. There's a very strict lawge Massachusetts of who

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<v Speaker 3>can share in tips. The tips can only go to

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<v Speaker 3>employee that's provided a direct service to the consumer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's going to get into this this issue as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think Steve set the stage. Uh, if there

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<v Speaker 2>are people who are wait staff people and want to

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<v Speaker 2>chime in, you would be most affected by this piece

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation. I'm sure there are some arguments on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. We'll try to get to those as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two four ten thirty six one seven nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get back at our conversation right after this very

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<v Speaker 2>quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the window world

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<v Speaker 1>to night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess it's Steve Clark, President and CEO of the

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Restaurant Association. So Steve, give you a chance now

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<v Speaker 2>since we've kind of laid out the way it all works.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, what is the problem with this ballot question?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are opposed to it. I believe that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good amount of waiters and waitresses, weight staff

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<v Speaker 2>people also who are opposed to this. What what is

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<v Speaker 2>it going to do that it's going to disrupt circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>and why is it a bad idea?

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<v Speaker 3>So the very first thing the mass Restaurant Association did

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<v Speaker 3>was poll servers, the very servers and bar centers that

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be impacted by this question, and we

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<v Speaker 3>actually put the language of the ballot before them and

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<v Speaker 3>said what do you think about this? And then overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>majority came back and said, we don't want this. This

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<v Speaker 3>is going to impact my earnings. Ninety percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>respondents came back and said this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty eight percent think that they have to share their

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<v Speaker 3>tips with other employees that don't provide direct service, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to make less money. And the proponents never asked

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<v Speaker 3>any of the servers in Massachusetts if they wanted this.

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<v Speaker 3>A very similar bill was just passed in Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been a disaster for the restaurant industry down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten percent of the full service jobs are gone in

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<v Speaker 3>less than a year. Ninety six percent of restaurants have

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<v Speaker 3>raised prices. And what we're really seeing is the implementation

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<v Speaker 3>of service charges. I'm not lying. Someone just texted me

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<v Speaker 3>a bill from Washington, DC and it says twenty percent

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<v Speaker 3>service charge. You don't need to tip. Well, the service

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<v Speaker 3>charge belongs to the restaurant owner to dictate where that

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<v Speaker 3>gets spent. So that's a loss of income for the servers.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've had one thousand servers go to our website

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<v Speaker 3>and sign up and join our petition and join our

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<v Speaker 3>campaign and more importantly, and I think what shows the

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<v Speaker 3>true nature of this campaign is almost one hundred servers

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<v Speaker 3>and bartenders have contributed financially to the null on five campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>They've reached into their hard earned dollars and contributed five

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<v Speaker 3>to ten fifteen dollars. The proponents of this question have

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<v Speaker 3>not one server or bartender from Massachusetts that has even

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<v Speaker 3>contributed to this campaign at all. So I think it

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<v Speaker 3>speaks pretty clear that the service and bartenders don't want

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<v Speaker 3>it because they're going to see a direct loss in

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<v Speaker 3>tips or in jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>So the impact on the current servers under the current circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>economic circumstances. Uh, if if they make one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in tip some night by waiting on customers, waiting tables,

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<v Speaker 2>serving tables, that money is credited to them, uh, they

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<v Speaker 2>they do not have to share that money with the

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<v Speaker 2>cooks or the bottle washers or any of the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the house people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, exactly, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so so what is this California group attempting to

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<v Speaker 2>do here? Again, we had a tough time tracking any

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<v Speaker 2>of them down, any any representative, and my producer is

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<v Speaker 2>very good at getting people to join us. What what

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<v Speaker 2>is what is their goal here? Who are the if

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<v Speaker 2>if the waiters and waitresses aren't thrilled with this? And

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen some uh some television ads I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if they're your ads or not, which have have shown

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<v Speaker 2>people who were you surfers who was saying they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>one on the other side to make the argument. What

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<v Speaker 2>is the potential argument that they are making two people

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't usually want to tell the people that

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<v Speaker 3>have endorsed a yes, but the Democratic Socialists of Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Chapter have endorsed the yes on this question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know they they they're they're they're this organization.

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<v Speaker 2>How about like the Young the Young Socialist League.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're probably lining up next, they might endorse tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's really rooted in a in a desire to

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<v Speaker 3>pay everyone in the restaurant the same wage and regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of how hard you've worked, regardless of how how hard

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to work, regardless of your skill set. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what makes the restaurant industry great. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to have unlimited earnings. You can go in

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<v Speaker 3>and providing credible service to a guest and making credible

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<v Speaker 3>earnings in limited hours. So they really want to get

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<v Speaker 3>away from tipping and they want to pay everybody one

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<v Speaker 3>wage their organization is called one Fair Wage. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>use that name very frequently, but it's really one flat wage.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to pay everybody the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's always interesting when you hear a group like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by by fair fair to whom? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Look, if there are some people who

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<v Speaker 2>would like to chime in on whatever side of this question. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a poll that was done recently by my

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<v Speaker 2>I recall, it's one of those questions, it's it's the

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<v Speaker 2>last questions question number five. And and you guys are

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we want to know. We want no changes to

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<v Speaker 3>the existing law nor the tip pulling law. That we

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<v Speaker 3>just want the We want a lot to stay the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So, but what this law would do is it

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<v Speaker 2>would mandate tip pooling.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh So it wouldn't. It wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't mandate tip pooling. It would just it would

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<v Speaker 3>allow the restaurant owner to mandate tip pooling. So if

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<v Speaker 3>the restaurant owner decided they could now move the tips

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<v Speaker 3>however they seem fit, so a manager would never be

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<v Speaker 3>able to collect the tips. I think that's pretty clear

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<v Speaker 3>in the law. But the if they wanted to share

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<v Speaker 3>tips with the back of the house, with the host,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe with the social media manager, maybe with the accountants,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe with the person that cleans the restaurant at night,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no restrictions on where those tips can go. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's truly the server and bartender opposition is

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<v Speaker 3>they're harder and tips are now being disseminated as wages

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<v Speaker 3>to other employees throughout the restaurant enterprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and what this would do also, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>will have an immediate impact that the minimum wage which

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<v Speaker 2>the servers are being paid above and beyond their tips,

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<v Speaker 2>would go to nine dollars and nine dollars and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>cents year one on January first, year two would bump

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<v Speaker 2>up to ten ninety five year three. January first, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six would be twelve thirty eight. It would eventually get

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<v Speaker 2>up to fifteen dollars by January first of twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So think about so Dan, think about a small

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant across Massachusetts, in any town, and just the labor

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<v Speaker 3>cost that's going to go up in year one. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>most full service restaurants, two thirds of the employees at

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<v Speaker 3>the restaurant are tipped employees. So it's the highest percentage

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<v Speaker 3>of staff that you have in your restaurant. If that

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<v Speaker 3>labor cost goes up from the six seventy five right

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<v Speaker 3>now to the nine thirty on January first, as almost

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<v Speaker 3>three dollars per tipped employee hour, So one employee working

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<v Speaker 3>forty hours a week, that's one hundred and twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 3>business costs. Multiply that out by every server in every week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an insane increase in a for the restaurant industry

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<v Speaker 3>that operates on a three to five percent margin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not sole that's going to that's going to increase

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<v Speaker 2>the costs that the restaurant will have to charge customers exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have to make up that price somehow. They're

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<v Speaker 3>either going to increase the cost or they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>put a service charge on because there's only one way

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<v Speaker 3>to generate money in a restaurant, and that's the product

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<v Speaker 3>on the menu price for the product.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're convinced that well, the poll that it

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<v Speaker 2>just was alluding to you, you were no vote was prevailing,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was still forty percent of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>if I recall correctly, thirty nine percent that were saying yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone wants to take care of their server and their bartenders, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, I think this helps servis and bartenders. But

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<v Speaker 3>then when they actually asked their bartender and their server,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, wait a minute, this isn't going to help me.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when the proponents first filed this question earlier

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<v Speaker 3>this year, they were touting fifty eight percent support. So

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<v Speaker 3>their support has been crumbling in eroding, and the Boston

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<v Speaker 3>Globe pole showed that it was less than forty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So people are learning, and I think when they hear

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<v Speaker 3>more from the services and bartenders, they hear from the

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<v Speaker 3>local restaurant owners, they hear from the coalition of mayors

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<v Speaker 3>that are on both sides of the aisle that have

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<v Speaker 3>come out and posed the house chair aways and means.

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Michelwitz came out today.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that by the way, that was that was

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting, you know, interesting that he would weigh in

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Of course, he represents the district. A part

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<v Speaker 2>of his district is the North End, which is repleat

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<v Speaker 2>with restaurants, great Italian restaurants. I should I should mention,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, so he very well might be influenced by

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<v Speaker 2>by that constituency.

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<v Speaker 3>But still obviously he also he had there was there

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<v Speaker 3>was three servers that came and spoke and said that

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't want this. So yes, he has a he

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<v Speaker 3>has a vibrant restaurant district, but he also has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of vibrant restaurant employees from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any of the state elected officials, the governor, either

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<v Speaker 2>of our senators are six constitutional offices, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>one of which would be the governor, of governor, lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney general, Secretary of state, auditor, state treasurer. Have any

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<v Speaker 2>of them come out with endorsements one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they've They've all remained neutral thus far, okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>which I think tells you, which I think speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, normally when they when you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a minimum wage discussion, most of our elected officials come

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<v Speaker 3>on board and say, yes, a good idea. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think their silence speaks volumes that they don't believe this

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<v Speaker 3>is a good idea. And then to go one step further,

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<v Speaker 3>the hospitality union is opposed to this. Well, is neutral

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<v Speaker 3>on this question because they don't like the tip sharing

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of it. So it's not often that the hospitality

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<v Speaker 3>union and the business owners agree on the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Evidence of what's going on in the city recently, but

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<v Speaker 3>they are not in favor of this ballot question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if perhaps the two issues spends pet been split,

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<v Speaker 2>the one fair share group might have at least had

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<v Speaker 2>a hope of getting the first question, but certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>the tip sharing question. It's very interesting. Have they spent

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<v Speaker 2>this group you said, has spent a million dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot. Have they been spending a lot of advertising?

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<v Speaker 3>To my knowledge, there hasn't been much advertising. Mostly they

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<v Speaker 3>spent a lot of their money to get on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>They did make reference in a Boston Globe article a

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<v Speaker 3>few months ago that they had a two million dollar

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<v Speaker 3>anonymous donation. Now, Massachusetts law prohibits anonymous donations. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to disclose what you spend. But they did say in

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<v Speaker 3>a Boston Globe atom article that they had an anonymous donation.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're we're waiting for them to spend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any any way possible that the that donor's last

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<v Speaker 2>name is Soros.

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<v Speaker 3>You know there, it may be. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>funding that happened in California that makes its way into politics,

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<v Speaker 3>politics and other states.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, no doubt, no doubt. All right, Steve, let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. I'd like to hear from people who

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<v Speaker 2>were affected by this, So give us a call at

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven four ten thirty. Uh, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a different point of view, you're more than welcome, no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about that. Or six one seven nine, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>give us a l particularly if you if you have

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<v Speaker 2>some relationship to the industry, because when when I hear

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<v Speaker 2>that both the owners, the restaurant owners and the employees

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<v Speaker 2>are both opposed to this, or I'm sure we can

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<v Speaker 2>find exceptions. If there are some out there who take

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<v Speaker 2>it a different way, coming up with a different take,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd love to hear from you. Six one seven two

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<v Speaker 2>five four ten thirty. Got one line, two lines open

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<v Speaker 2>there and six one seven nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh those lines filled? Do you want to call it now?

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven nine three one ten thirty. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back on nightside right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, my guest is Steve Clark. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>president and CEO of the mass Restaurant Association, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Massachusetts ballot Question five that proposes giving tipped

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<v Speaker 2>workers an increase uh in their base wage beginning next

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<v Speaker 2>January and continuing for five years until it reaches a

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<v Speaker 2>base wage of fifteen dollars an hour. That base wage,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually well twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine. It would be twenty twenty nine that they

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<v Speaker 2>would reach the fifteen dollars an hour plateau. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Restaurant Association is opposed to it, and apparently a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of restaurant workers, if not a vast majority of restaurant workers,

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<v Speaker 2>were opposed to it because it would also include the

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<v Speaker 2>obligation for wait staff to pull the wages that they

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<v Speaker 2>earned its tips with folks in what they call the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the house, cooks and clean up people. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this seems to me to be a question that

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<v Speaker 2>is not likely to succeed, but it's one it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. So let's get to phone calls and

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<v Speaker 2>see what would you have to say, those of you

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<v Speaker 2>who happen to be in the industry love to get

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<v Speaker 2>your perspective. We did try to reach out today to

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<v Speaker 2>the proponents of this group, the Yes Campaign, but they

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<v Speaker 2>did not respond to our request to participate tonight. And

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<v Speaker 2>apparently there are groups that is based in California and

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<v Speaker 2>puts this type of ballid question on ballats, not only

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<v Speaker 2>here in Massachusetts, but elsewhere as well. So let's start

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<v Speaker 2>it off with Joe and Gloucester. Joe, you were first

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<v Speaker 2>tonight with Steve Clark, the president and CEO of the

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Restaurant Association.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Joe, Yeah. I thought it'd be interesting for

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<v Speaker 4>Steve to speak to where this question had actually I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it was the same exact question that

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<v Speaker 4>had passed, but up in the town up in Maine,

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<v Speaker 4>and the results that kind of followed with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with what Joe's I.

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<v Speaker 3>Do feel a very A similar proposal was passed in Portland,

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<v Speaker 3>Maine in twenty sixteen. A couple of months after it

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<v Speaker 3>went into effect, the servers were seeing an actual loss

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<v Speaker 3>in their earnings, and they went and rallied to city

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<v Speaker 3>Hall and they got the law reversed. So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>sign of where a municipality tried this and it didn't work,

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<v Speaker 3>and the service successfully lobbied their elected officials and they

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<v Speaker 3>repealed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that probably wasn't a ballot question. It probably was

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<v Speaker 2>something that passed by their city council in mayor, so

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<v Speaker 2>easy to turn that around if this one were to

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<v Speaker 2>pass as a ballot question. It's tough to turn balot

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<v Speaker 2>questions around in Massachusetts. I hope the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>voting on this realized that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, the legislature generally defers to the to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the voting public on a ballot question. I believe it

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<v Speaker 3>was a city referendum. It wasn't a statewide referendum. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was just a City of Portland referendum.

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<v Speaker 2>City ordinance or a city regulation. They made a mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>they turned it around. Joe. Are you involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>industry at all, Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Turner seat foods, which one turn to seafoods Turner Seafoods.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. So we have locations, we have a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>different locations. But you know, our concern on this, and

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<v Speaker 4>we've shared this with Steve is is people walking into

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<v Speaker 4>the ballot booth that just aren't educated on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I think you know, for many people,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, they they think it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>only fair if someone's going to be making if someone's

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<v Speaker 4>making six seventy five, and they in the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>their understanding of it is, you know, why not pay

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<v Speaker 4>them minimum wage? But you know this this we we

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<v Speaker 4>we love, we love what your show is doing. And

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<v Speaker 4>just giving giving more education to the public, Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Important because what happens is everybody, particularly in the president's

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<v Speaker 2>your year, they goes, they go in and no one's

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<v Speaker 2>making up their mind as they're as they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>walking into the polling place. They know who they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for president. They probably know who they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for US senator. When they get to those

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<v Speaker 2>ballot questions, they'll either tend to blank them or their

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<v Speaker 2>instinct will be probably to say yes because most people

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea. Yes yes, yes, yes, yes yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's uh that that's an advantage for any particularly

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<v Speaker 2>if they read the first sentence and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how the ballot question is phrased. I haven't gotten my

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<v Speaker 2>ballot question book yet, uh, which which I always look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to getting because you can look before you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the polls. And really I try to understand the

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<v Speaker 2>ballot questions ahead of time, by the way, but you

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<v Speaker 2>look when you go to the polls and you say

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself, Okay, I know what I'm going to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I take a little card with me. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go, you know, on this one, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go yes or no, so I know exactly what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sitting in there or you know, tying

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<v Speaker 2>people up for an hour and a half. Joe, appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your joining us with your perspective. I appreciate you listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Night's Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks dam, Thanks Sam, Thanks Thank Joe. Good luck in

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<v Speaker 3>Salem in October. I know that's an extremely busy time

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Get thank you it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good night. Let me keep rolling here. We get

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<v Speaker 2>one more in before the news break, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a gym down on the self Shore

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<v Speaker 2>and hint over Massachusetts. Chim, you're next on Nightside with

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Clark, the president CEO of the Massachusetts Restaurant Association.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Hi, I used to be a Canada custodian, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'd cleaned the whole bowl in the li carpets, benches,

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<v Speaker 5>the bar, and the bartender would want it a certain way.

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<v Speaker 5>And I asked at the very first night of my tenure,

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<v Speaker 5>I asked if I got some of the tip and

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<v Speaker 5>they were, oh, no, you don't get that. That's the bartenders.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, well, the reason he gets the tip

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<v Speaker 5>it isn't just when making the drink. It's for the

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<v Speaker 5>clean area. All the stools are all cleaned, the floor

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<v Speaker 5>around the bar is cleaned, and the butt in the

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<v Speaker 5>Jandita should get a percentage of the tip. That was

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<v Speaker 5>my my pet pee for working there and washing dishes.

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<v Speaker 5>I for washed dishes, and I've made sure there was

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<v Speaker 5>no food stuck on the plate. I'm sure people don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to stare a food on a plate that's got

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<v Speaker 5>something stuck to him. So it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can hear me and talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and tell him I want to ask him a question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk over him, but I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to ask him a question. So if

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<v Speaker 2>he's if you're able to bring him back up, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see if we can get a question into him. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was having difficulty hearing me. Go ahead, bring

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<v Speaker 2>him up, Okay, Jim, I want to ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 2>We lost him, we lost him, talk to me, guys said,

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<v Speaker 2>show you there tonight. Talked to me. Did you lose

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<v Speaker 2>him here? Yeah? Good, Jim. I'm trying to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>a question. The question that I asked you is did

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<v Speaker 2>you ever get any additional sensation from the bartender or

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<v Speaker 2>the owner or you just would you know? Doing your

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<v Speaker 2>job as it were?

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<v Speaker 5>I did my job to the best of my Adose, No,

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<v Speaker 5>I know that I'm gonna ask you that quit. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you all know it? Called me like two months later

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<v Speaker 5>and said, will you come back to guys?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not interesting conversation. Take it down. Thanks very much, Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your experience. It was fascinating. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call in, I certainly will let

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<v Speaker 2>you tell you a story, no problem, But at some

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<v Speaker 2>point I probably want to engage you in a question,

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<v Speaker 2>in a conversation, and if you're having difficulty hearing me,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make what we call great Radio. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back on next night after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World,

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go next to Joe and Hebril. Hey Joe, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>you next on nights. I go right ahead. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Joe's not ready, so let's put Joe on hold. Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much, and we'll move on to Alan

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<v Speaker 2>in Framingham. Alan in framing him. How are you Alan?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good, Dan, how are you boy?

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<v Speaker 2>That's great you're there, and I'm sure the guys told

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<v Speaker 2>you to keep the radio down, so you were all

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<v Speaker 2>set and you're on the air. What would you like

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<v Speaker 2>to say or what question would you like to ask

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<v Speaker 2>of my guest, Steve Clark of the mass Restaurant Association,

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>So my comment is that the restaurant industry is one

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<v Speaker 6>of the few industries where you can start off as

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<v Speaker 6>a minimum wage worker and work your way up and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, become a manager or become a supervisor, become

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<v Speaker 6>a district person, become an office person. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of opportunity, and I think that that can so overlooked

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<v Speaker 6>in a lot of these conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think you're right. Are you involved in the business.

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<v Speaker 6>I am involved in the business. I started off as

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<v Speaker 6>a cook myself a long time ago, worked my way up,

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<v Speaker 6>became a manager, decided I wanted to make a switch

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<v Speaker 6>to administration, and I made the switch to administration, and

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<v Speaker 6>now I provide services to people in the industry.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that people go ahead, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, I didn't mean to drop go.

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<v Speaker 6>Ahead, Nope. One of the things I think people miss.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is kind of a different subject, but in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of the restaurant owner Steve mentioned earlier, restaurant owners

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<v Speaker 6>have very small margins, unlike high tech and things like

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<v Speaker 6>that that have a very high margin. But in the

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<v Speaker 6>restaurant industry Steve mentioned it earlier. Most people now use

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<v Speaker 6>a credit card to pay their bill. So if the

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<v Speaker 6>bill is one hundred dollars and someone leaves a twenty

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<v Speaker 6>or twenty five dollar tip, the restaurant owner is now

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<v Speaker 6>paying the credit card see on those tips. But they

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<v Speaker 6>don't recoup those fees. They can't recoup those fees, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's just another added expense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's true. Being that's a little inside baseball. But

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<v Speaker 2>fiture I mean, I think the fees on credit cards

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<v Speaker 2>are what three four dollars?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, fees on credit card trages generally run around three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>significant on a bill that's a one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars, you're talking about four dollars and no, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting, interesting perspective as well. Allan, I appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 2>cal thank you very much. I got a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other folks like to try to accommodate as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for calling, and thanks for listening tonight's side.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try joe In havebel go ahead, Steve, you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say something, sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just wanted to just add to one point

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<v Speaker 3>to what Alan was saying. Is very few industries in

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<v Speaker 3>America where you can start in the first job, at

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<v Speaker 3>an anty level job and become the CEO. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>most places that doesn't have that three lattice. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>what makes the restaurant industry great. Most of our owners

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<v Speaker 3>started as cooks in dishwashes, et cetera. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to make a plug for the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that's fine. That's fine. Let me go now to

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<v Speaker 2>Joe in Haveril and see if Joe is ready at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe, No, yes, this is Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>November eleven is Veteras Day. And I've been to many

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<v Speaker 7>restaurants through the years and we get a free meal,

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<v Speaker 7>but we don't have we don't leave a tip. What

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<v Speaker 7>happens then to the waitress says should does?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, I've been the beneficiary of a complimentary

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<v Speaker 3>meal a few times, and I always try to leave

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<v Speaker 3>a tip for the server because the owner themselves is

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<v Speaker 3>the one that's camping the meal, the server is not.

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<v Speaker 3>So so the server is probably making the minimum wage

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<v Speaker 3>for that day because if there's no tips coming from

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<v Speaker 3>the consumers, then the owner is required to make them

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<v Speaker 3>minimum wage under the laws. So they're probably making fifty

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<v Speaker 3>dollars an hour as a way. But happy Veterance Day

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<v Speaker 3>and thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate that, Joe. Again, any anyone who has

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<v Speaker 2>a meal complimentary, they certainly should also take care of

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<v Speaker 2>the person who serves them. There's no doubt, no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Thanks, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 7>Next time I next time I go to a restaurant

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<v Speaker 7>on Vevermin' Day. It's coming up in November eleventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it comes like that every year in November eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like clockwork. Joe absolutely in the World War One.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Joe, appreciate your call. Let me go to Suzanne

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<v Speaker 2>and Newton. Susanne, next on, nice, I go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi, thank you for bringing this spolt question to buy attention,

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<v Speaker 9>because I will vote in person. But and I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, if I say it's a credit card, I

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<v Speaker 9>leave to chip in cash, you always.

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<v Speaker 8>Ship at alvers around. If you said tavy of our service,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm serious, is quite wide? Probably serious? Is the

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<v Speaker 8>waitress's kind of limited? But I'm so glad you brought

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<v Speaker 8>this ballance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you gave a chance to think about

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<v Speaker 2>it now. So what you can do is go into

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<v Speaker 2>the polls and make your decision. I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the arguments that Steve Clark, our guest tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>has made, I think that would probably convince me.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll vote in verses, and now I will vote to

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<v Speaker 8>give tips without cats to the waitress and writers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan appreciate your call. Let me go to Beatrice in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bridgewater Beaches, like to get you in here under

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<v Speaker 2>the wire, go right hand.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi Dan, I just want to say that when I

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<v Speaker 10>use my credit card to pay for a meal, I

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<v Speaker 10>always make sure that I have cash on me to

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<v Speaker 10>pay the tip because it's my understanding that the waitresses

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<v Speaker 10>don't get that tip until the credit card company, uh

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<v Speaker 10>you know, pay, so I always make sure that I

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<v Speaker 10>have cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me let me find Let let me just

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<v Speaker 2>find out if that's true, Steve. That surprises me what

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<v Speaker 2>Beatrice said, Is that true?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that it does pay sometimes well in some

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<v Speaker 3>restaurants or cast people out that night and they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 3>wait for the credit card payments to come in. Other

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<v Speaker 3>people have put all the tips in the payroll so

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<v Speaker 3>that the end of the week they get an actual

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<v Speaker 3>paycheck with all the tips calculated out. It really varies

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<v Speaker 3>across the industry, but you know, I do think I

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<v Speaker 3>think the servers love the credit card purchase and the

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<v Speaker 3>cash tip. I think that works out great for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But really it's customer preference of you know, whatever works.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, there's sometimes a lag on tips, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>because it gets put into a paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's an interesting point you raised, Beatrice, and that

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<v Speaker 2>might make me. I tend to, you know, at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's you know, over you know, twenty five, If

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<v Speaker 2>it's under thirty bucks, I'm paying cash with the tip.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's over you know, fifty dollars or something, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably putting it on the credit card. And now maybe

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<v Speaker 2>what I think I will do is follow your advice, Beats,

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<v Speaker 2>and have some tens and twenties in my pocket so

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<v Speaker 2>that I can leave a good, healthy, at least minimum

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent tip in cash, so the waitress or the

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<v Speaker 2>waiter is able to take the money at home that

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<v Speaker 2>night and put it in their piggy bank. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great suggestion.

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<v Speaker 10>Only that, but they don't have to pay taxes on it,

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<v Speaker 10>where if they get a tech for it, they would

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<v Speaker 10>have to pay taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's that's another factor. I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you on that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know, listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't imagine that any waiter a waitress would

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<v Speaker 2>not declare all of their cash tips as well.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, oh yeah, right, I was a wait That's

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<v Speaker 10>what we all recommend I went to Maine recently and

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<v Speaker 10>the bill was ninety five dollars and I put it

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<v Speaker 10>on my credit CAD, but I had money for the

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<v Speaker 10>tip in cash. I don't like to make them wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Good for you. That's a great suggestion,

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<v Speaker 2>be just that was one of the better calls this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, thank you, thanks Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, Steve Clark, thank you very much. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>where can folks if they haven't been convinced by this hour?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do to convince them. This was this was almost a

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<v Speaker 2>forfeit by the other side, but we'll leave that for

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<v Speaker 2>other considerations. Uh, is there a website people and get

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<v Speaker 2>more information if they still need a little more information

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<v Speaker 2>before they decide how they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna Yeah, absolutely, protect tips dot org is the full

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<v Speaker 3>campaign website. And of course our website is math the

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<v Speaker 3>Mass rest dot org. So we are the Mass Restaurant

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<v Speaker 3>Association and uh, we're just excited to be on today.

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<v Speaker 3>We're excited to get to election day and hopefully put

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<v Speaker 3>this question behind us and send this idea back to California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of cooky ideas come out of California,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no Unfortunately, a lot of them get adopted by

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<v Speaker 2>the other states. Thank you so much, Steve. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>it very much. We'll talk soon, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Right now, interesting hour coming up. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about something called glossophobia, the fear of public speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>and how to get over it. Back on Nightside, right

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<v Speaker 2>after the ten o'clock news,
