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Today it is time for a little World of by
sports segment breaking down the news and notes coming out
of Brigham Kalani Shaitake is staying home. I'm not leaving,
he says, I'm not leaving. The show goes on. Not
so fast, Penn State, Not so fast, mister Kraft, He's
swung a miss again and BYU retains their guy. My
question is that the retention offer for Klania need to
come at the eleventh hour. Did we need to get
to the point where there was a Penn State offer
on the table before negotiating and getting our guy right?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Did we need to get to this point? Is this
what needed to happen. Let's welcome into the show. Former
BA wide receiver, the owner operator of Utah Protective Films,
Jared Bledsoe.
Speaker 3: Jared didn't need to get to.
Speaker 5: This, That's a great question, and no it didn't. But
there were contracts already in place, right, So he.
Speaker 2: Had an extension through two thousand ninety. He was getting
paid approximately with incentives, I think about five million, right
is what I've been able to confirm. So he got
a pay raise, a significant pay raise from five to
nine and a half.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So sometimes it takes somebody coming in and throwing out
an offer that that changes the whole dynamic. And not
only that, but because we're winning and because we're having
the success that we're having now, it brought into play
a lot more.
Speaker 4: So. I don't think that I'm proud of b YU.
Speaker 5: I'm proud that they were able to come and realize
we're not just a basketball.
Speaker 4: School, that football really is a priority for us, and
we're we're seeing that now today.
Speaker 5: But man, something something needs to change in this NCUA
A football coaching scenario.
Speaker 4: You flip through things with old miss you see with Tulane.
Speaker 5: Tulane's got a game this weekend, and where's their coach
at today? He's in Florida celebrating his new job. You
know you've got and I'll you know, you've got all
these players and assistant coaches and the dynamic of football
is so different today when you before it was a
coach is getting hired, he's going to take a new job,
he's going to move on. But now because of the
transfer portal and how all that works, all of a sudden,
now you don't know, every player is like, well, am
I going to go to Penn State? Now? Gonna stay
at BYU? Are my teammates gonna stay? Are my coaches
gonna stay? I mean even with the Lane Kiffin deal.
I don't know if you read, but he had you know,
he gave the ultimatum to the offensive coordinate, you know,
offensive staff.
Speaker 4: And they say players aren't involved in this.
Speaker 5: Players showed up to speak with Lane Kiffin about are
you really gonna take our coaches?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So for those that are out there saying, oh, the
players are focused on their games, you can't be fully
focused on what you're doing. We for football and for
that week while all the dramas going on behind the scenes. Now, yeah,
you know, I'm glad they got it settled today. To
be honest with you, I'm I'm ready to talk about
Texas Tech. I mean, we got the biggest game of
the year. The interesting thing nineteen ninety eight the last
time we played in a conference championship game, that was
my last year at BYU. Right, we played Air Force.
We lost Air Force down down in Las Vegas. Can
you believe it's been that long? I mean that that
needs to be the highlight of what we're doing this week,
and unfortunately it got taken over by this whole Penn
State deal. I'm super happy for Klanie. I'm super happy
for the staff because you know, ultimately, you know, we
were texting back and forth this week. You didn't know
what would a Rod go, would Jay Hill go, would
all the staff go?
Speaker 4: Would you start losing players? You know? Where would it go?
Where would it end? And I'm just happy we have everybody.
Speaker 5: The focus can now be put back on the game
coming up this week, and I'm just glad that. You know,
I'm sure we'll get all the details of how it
all worked out, but I'm just happy to have it
behind us now.
Speaker 4: It's not Thursday or Friday, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 5: We got a bunch of practices still ahead of us,
and and we're able to really focus one hundred percent
on the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, man, What's what's going on right now?
Speaker 3: Let me give you this insight.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send this over to you, Ronnie, because I
want to play this sound little world of BYU Sports.
Speaker 3: Coming at you.
Speaker 2: We know, okay, we know deep down that the committee
wants b YU to lose and they want to keep
b YU out. It's why when they put up okay,
when they put up the the resume comparisons, right, and
I'll play the Trevor Maddic commentary from I think this was.
It was like on Saturday night after the game and
they were looking at and comparing, comparing and contrasting the
resumes of the two loss teams. Okay, but we've been waiting
for them to just come out right and say we
just don't want me, don't want Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, well, guess what right this is?
Speaker 2: This is Kirk kirbstreet Uh discussing the college football Playoff
Committee and what they're looking at right now.
Speaker 3: Playoff pitcher by conference. Let's tune in.
Speaker 6: So basically, the committee is hoping that BYU loses. Oh yes,
oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 7: They nobody hoping for a Virginia and A and A
and a Texas Tech went more than the committee.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and those two.
Speaker 7: Things happened that that takes basically two spots away from somebody.
Speaker 4: So basically.
Speaker 3: Okay, so so basically the committee is helping b what
you loses.
Speaker 2: He said it.
Speaker 4: They wanted they want it to be an easy selection.
Speaker 5: They wanted to be more of a cut and dry deal,
and they don't want to have to include to big
twelve teams. They don't you know, it's almost an SEC
playoff and uh yeah, it's frustrating to watch. You know,
I'm excited to watch it tonight. But I don't know
why because we know b YU is going to be
an eleventh spot. There's nothing's going to change there. If anything,
they're going to be moved down.
Speaker 4: That would be crazy.
Speaker 2: They're like, look, they didn't beat UCF buy enough that
first quarter. We watched that first quarter and then we
turned it off, right, and then we turned it off
because like, ah, this team is just not a college
football playoff team. I guarantee you hunter, you're a check
is going to say something about, well, we weren't all
that impressed with b Yu, especially in that first half
of that UCF game. They just don't feel and look
like a colle football playoff team. So we had to
move him down a.
Speaker 4: Spot, right, don't It wouldn't surprise me. Don't be surprised
me at all. But the greatest thing that we have
is it's.
Speaker 5: All under our control. And we go out and we
beat Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: We're in. We're in.
Speaker 5: There's nothing they can do at that point to keep
us out. And it's gonna be an exciting game. It's
gonna be a great atmosphere. I'm excited for the neutral field.
I'm excited to see what a Rod has been able
to put together, uh to maximize we've got.
Speaker 4: A healthy LJ. Martin. Did you see who suited up
on Saturday for by U? Right?
Speaker 5: So you know, and I was like, man, are we
going to get get him a little bit of action?
And then I thought about it. I thought if I was,
if I was a Rod, he's a secret weapon. They
don't know how well he is. And I'll tell you
what when he when he walked by me on the sideline,
when when we were down on the field.
Speaker 4: Of pre he looked huge.
Speaker 5: That guy's been been in the weight room and just
been lifting, and you know what, how hungry he is
to run somebody over.
Speaker 4: And we know how strong he is, we know how
hard he runs. The LJ.
Speaker 5: Backfield could change everything. And not only that, but imagine
being able to put two backs in the backfield to
help block right because that was a big problem that we.
Speaker 4: Had against Texas. Texas at their front is so good.
Speaker 5: And then also being able to have Aaron Roddick actually
in the headset, you know, being able to talk to bear, discuss,
and and make adjustments on the fly. It's a different ballgame.
It's it's going to be different than what we saw before.
I think our receivers are going to be locked in.
We're not going to drop balls. Parker's coming off an
amazing punt return, you know, I see him get one more.
I don't think Sam Banner Hall shanks a punt, you know.
I think I think we're gonna be dialed in. I
was watching game Day, ESPN Game Day, and I can't
think of his name. Alabama coach Nick Samon. He came
out and said there were multiple years that they played
the same team twice and it was in a championship game.
He said, almost every time they lost the game during
the season, they won the championship. And he said, there's
something that happens in these athletes and these young men
that they are so driven to prove themselves against this
team again. And I'm excited for it. I think we're
we're due for an exciting game. We just need to
come out and get some momentum go and we need
to show out. I hope we have a lot of
BYU Blue in the stands. I'm gonna be there. I
can't wait for this game, and I know a lot
of people go in and I'm just glad I booked
my flight during the Cincinnati game and didn't wait a week.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what, I don't know if if
the flights are all are all taken up by.
Speaker 4: I heard they're very expensive.
Speaker 3: They're very expensive now.
Speaker 5: In fact, my brother and I were talking about maybe
we should charter next time. Charter a playing and sell
out seats, get a bus set up and.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm excited. I'm glad we can now talk
about it. Feel like we couldn't talk about the game
because everything was overhanging with Kilani and what was going
to happen. And now I feel like the focus can
be on the game and we can move forward. And
you know, another note for Texas deat did you show
last week? You know their their third string quote really
there's their backup now because Hammond is out for the season.
That it got hurt in the game, so they had
their four string quarterback, which was their fresh true freshman
that blew his me out in high school first game
ever playing since then back now they're starting quarterback Morton.
He's got his injury, so he's actually practicing for the
first time tomorrow without the boot.
Speaker 4: It's what they're coming out and saying. So he should
be healthier.
Speaker 5: But what happened what happened last time we played in
in Arlington?
Speaker 4: What happened last time we played.
Speaker 2: It was it was a demolition, it was a domination.
Speaker 4: We take out what quarterbacks prime.
Speaker 2: Time Shuder Sanders and Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5: No, no, when we played with the Yeah, that's right, No, Oklahoma,
that's right, you're taking you know, you're right.
Speaker 3: It was it was the Oklahoma game we.
Speaker 4: Take out before another shut down.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to wish an injury on anybody. But
you know what, let's go. Yeah, let's let's play hard,
let's hit hard. Let's let's let's show what we gotta
do and and let's go in there and and let's
do what we did.
Speaker 4: Oklahoma. Yeah, beautiful, A lot of fun.
Speaker 3: That would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I forgot Yeah that at at and
T Jerrys World.
Speaker 3: I was at that game. I should have known that.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I watched Colby claws and come off the edge. It
was uh, it was beautifully Donnyvie. Look, I don't I
don't wish any sort of ac joints separation that requires
surgery on anybody.
Speaker 3: But he was a good, clean hit and BYU ended
up winning.
Speaker 2: Landry Jones was the backup and just couldn't wield his
team to victory. And Max Hall found McKay Jacobson in
the back of the end zone on that pivotal drive
and we didn't even have we were short headed. Harvey
Unge did not get to play in that game. He
had a hamstring tear. Yeah, he did not play in
that game. He was injured.
Speaker 5: And on top of it, remember going into the end
of the postseason. Essentially now all of our Justin Kirkland
could play right and and keep his red shirt. Everybody
who was being held for red shirts can now play
and not lose that eligibility back. So that counts for
the championship game, any Bowl game, or any playoff game.
So all these guys are back in the mix who
maybe wouldn't weren't playing when we played Texas Tech before.
So there's I don't know if Tommy Prass Mike gets
a good time back. Yeah, so there's a whole different group,
and we have some weapons that we didn't have.
Speaker 4: We have healthy players.
Speaker 5: J wasn't healthy when we played that shoulder you could
tell at the Texas Tech game he wasn't all the
way there. And I just feel like, you know, when
we watched our seniors walk and some of our juniors,
you know, because we all everybody who potentially might go to.
Speaker 4: The NFL does their senior walk, and.
Speaker 5: These this is this is a huge game for them,
not just for their BYU career, but to show out
for NFL scouts and to show that they should be
second and third round picks going into the NFL this
next year. So I'm excited. Man, This is one of
those games that you just don't get him very often.
We've been independent for so long, we haven't had an
opportunity to be in these kind of championship scenarios.
Speaker 4: We're finally there.
Speaker 5: We locked in our coach, we've we've locked in our staff.
I don't think anybody's going anywhere, uh signing days Tomorrow,
we're gonna have one of the best recruiting classes that
we've had in maybe ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's gonna be a SoC recruity class.
I mean in the modern right, I don't know, maybe
not ever. I don't know what that ninety two season
or ninety three season, Brode, I don't know what. The
eighty five, eighty five class was really good. The eighty
four class was really good. Yeah, I mean, like there's
some great recruiting classes in b foot players, but we
didn't have Ray Kings at that time. Like I remember
Jason Buck, you know, tell me about his story, like
the night before, like praying on whether he's supposed to
go to Texas or b YU, and like a bag
man Texas oil guy shows up and and it's like
you'll have a you'll have a job forever. You know,
we want you, we need you, you know, probably with.
Speaker 3: The Southern ball like probably yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: He like knelt down and prayed and he chose b
YU and absolutely no money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to come and an NFL career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but but you know he probably from
a monetary standpoint, you know, who knows what could have happened.
Speaker 3: That's hard to turn down.
Speaker 2: Luckily, Uh you know that, you know, some guys are
willing to take on the the the the truths of
spiritual promptings and and say, okay, that's where I'm gonna
go because long term, it's gonna be better for you know,
for myself and my family.
Speaker 3: And he met his wonderful wife, I was sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean when and you look at you know, tomorrow
being signing day, let's see, let's see what happens. I
have my gut feeling is there's gonna be some guys
that flip, you know. I mean, there's always some rumors
going around, but keeping Kialani, keeping the staff together and
and maintaining those that have already committed is gonna.
Speaker 4: Be huge, you know.
Speaker 5: And I'm man, I'm excited that we can continue to
move forward and and just see what they what they
come with, They're gonna be guys.
Speaker 4: That team's gonna be hungry.
Speaker 3: By the way, earlier this week, the depth chart was dropped.
Speaker 2: So all these guys that you're talking about that are
red shirting or returning. So Justin Kirklin, okay, he did
not walk. Okay, so he's playing this season and he's
gonna publish next year as well because he's red shirting.
You got guys coming back like Tommy Peassus. I'm intrigued
to see, you know, what happens in the nickel spot
if Jonathan Bay I don't think Jonathan played this last week.
Tavian Beasley did, but they were limited, so we'll see
if they implement some nickel. Roberts will be back, Shone
Moa will be back, and he did dress out as
you mentioned, he did not play, but he did dress out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: There at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
Speaker 3: Trying to think.
Speaker 2: Waylon is listed at left guard. I don't know if
he'll be back.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: He's been out the last two game, so to be
determined on on Waylan. We'll see if that what that
injury report looks like on Wednesday, And uh, I think
that's oh from ephram Asada was also a red shirt candidate,
so he could be back as well.
Speaker 3: Now he's not listed.
Speaker 2: I don't think on the depth chart, which means he
may not play maybe his special teams. But you should
be fully healthy and in Jy Hill, I want to say.
Last week, in preparation for UCF, he alluded to the
fact that BYU will be healthier, especially I mean across
the entire team, but especially on the defense side of
the ball. Going into the conference championship game, they got
a little surprise. Say hello to my little friend.
Speaker 5: Let's go, man, I I'm excited. Man, Yeah, let's let's
let's see if we can get I don't I want
to see.
Speaker 4: I hope is one hundred percent ready to go.
Speaker 5: I mean it's always difficult, but once you start hitting again,
I mean that comes right back, you know. And and
he's such a physical player. He is a game changer
type of running back. And if you have to pay
attention to LJ and and you can give LJ some
rest and still give him the ball, you know, I mean,
it's a whole different game.
Speaker 4: And we see what he's doing this year, you know,
give Bear some more protection.
Speaker 5: Just just open up the offense a little bit and
let's not drop passes, you know, let's not drop punts
and uh and let's get on top. You know, the
momentum is gonna be everything, and and I I we
need to show out and we need to be loud
because I'll tell you what, Texas Tech, I hate their logo,
their their their modo.
Speaker 4: Reck them.
Speaker 5: You know, I got standing, But you know what, they're
gonna be there, They're gonna be They're gonna be hungry
for a win as well. And but I think I
think b YU is gonna be ready to play. And
I'm just excited to see what our team does this
week and real excited for Kloni and his whole staff
and and the players as well to just to get
that out of the way and move forward.
Speaker 2: You know, I just had this thought as you were
talking and and we're just discussing Klan.
Speaker 3: Executing a deal with.
Speaker 2: With b y U Athletics and b y U and
as an extension of that.
Speaker 4: Sur Saints.
Speaker 2: So I was told that on Sunday that Kalani met
with Penn State and there was essentially, you know, an
agreement or like, look, I'm all in I just have
to go tell b YU and let them know why
I'm doing this, right right, why I'm doing this, And
it's that, you know, the the offer's too good to refuse.
I'll let a billion right upwards of probably fifteen to
twenty million in nil support, kind of unlimited.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, and you've been saying that's generational change in money,
generational money, right, It's like, I gotta go tell him,
I've been here for ten years.
Speaker 2: This is my this is my school, this is my almama.
I gotta go tell him that. Hey, like this is
the scenario, because you know, that's just how he's gonna work.
Met with BYU brass that that that same Sunday and
told them the situation. Okay, so they're like, okay, well
we'll let us work on this. Let's see what we
can do. Came back right Monday, another meeting. This is
our offer, this is what we're gonna do. It's just
how we're gonna approach it, et cetera. Okay, let me
moll this over, let me talk to my wife, you
know that. And then you hear you him talking about, hey,
we're gonna focus on football. I was told that the
message to the staff. The message to the team is like,
folks on football, it's gonna be okay, right, it's gonna
be fine. We're gonna get the We're gonna be all
right right, that's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because especially.
Speaker 2: Because the entire Penn State Nittany Lions nation is over
here saying, huzza, we got our guy. We got our guy, right,
We're ninety nine percent sure that.
Speaker 4: He's our dude.
Speaker 2: No way, b why you can offer what we're offering,
and and we know that they didn't offer the same amount.
We talk about Delta's We talk about, you know, a
little bit of a reduction in pay because it is
b YU and it wasn't that far off though, in
the mark nine and a half million, fifteen to or
ten to fifteen million. And then I el support on
top of rev share and probably raises for assistant coaches
for retention purposes. Let's see if we can continue to
retain our coordinators A Rod J. Hill and Kelly PEPPINGA.
I think Gennar deserves a lot of staff.
Speaker 3: Is doing better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, all these guys are doing a great job.
So you want to retain it, you want to keep
it in the family. We got something special here, and
but I I began to think, like I'm like, well,
this also to a certain degree had to be approved
by the Board of Tricy. They had to come and
say like so when when they hear of this offer?
Right and that, And they've seen Klanie work over the
last decade being an ambassador for the for the for
b YU and the faith.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: You walked him out to the devotional at Brigham Young
University and he just hit it out.
Speaker 4: Of the park.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're crying, We're getting emotional. We're connecting with Kolanie.
See how he's always been We all connect with him.
And the Board of Trustee sees that and here's that
and feels that Elder Rasband right, the individuals. Elder Elder
Oaks was at a game you know this past this
last game.
Speaker 3: I believe there were a bunch of.
Speaker 4: Was there.
Speaker 2: So like they're engaged in what BYU is trying to
do as an institution. Yes, academically and spiritually and ethically, academically,
but also athletically because BYU Athletics is trying to go
about doing good and everyone kind of not everyone. There's
a certain segment of the fan base that listen to
the show that they get on me about speaking to
the spiritual nature and the spiritual mission of BYU.
Speaker 3: You can't have.
Speaker 2: Guys, guys, guy guys. And by doing it this way,
by doing this is the right way.
Speaker 3: This is the right way.
Speaker 2: Going about and raising twenty seven thousand pounds of food,
going out and raising money on a go fund me
account for a barber's wife that got hit by a
vehicle and is in intensive care at a hospital in Lubbing,
and we raise huchanges, changing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
That's what it's about. It's going about doing good on
my mission. Okay, I came off of my mission. I'm like,
you know what, the one thing I wish I would
have done more is less proselyting and more service. I
came away from that because I was so to a
certain degree heck bent on proselyting and the numbers and
teaching and baptizing, and there were times where I was
very service range. But I'm like, you know what, I
should have served better. I should have served more, I
should have administered more. I should have And so that's
what you have to do. And Klinian bodies that kalanis Bwa.
Kalani is the faith. Kalani is the LDS Church.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And he's a fantastic disciple and ambassador of art of
the war and saved Jesus Christ. So I think the
Border Trustee saw this and became a where it. Elda
Rasband met with him right like saying, no, we want you,
we need you, We're gonna figure it out. Brian, we
want you, we need you. We're gonna figure it out. Shane,
we want you, we need you. We're gonna figure out.
Keith Forking, we want you, we need you. We're gonna
figure it out. So that matters. That matters. And I
had a conversation, uh with with someone yesterday about you know,
how how impactful klan He's been in the community, you know,
wherever he goes right and and it's amazing to me
how he ministers to everybody.
Speaker 5: Well you look, you listen to people talk about Klonie.
Listen to people on ESPN talk about Colonie. Everybody loves Klonie.
There's there's, it's it's it's amazing the effect he's had
on people in and Cinabla football.
Speaker 4: They love him.
Speaker 5: They love his everything that he does, and uh, I'm
super proud of this. We've got a whole staff full
of b yu al night football players that are coaches
and you don't see that everywhere either, But I agree
with you man at Colonian Bodies by U and the
athletics and just overwhelming to part your acceptments and I'm
just super excited for it.
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Speaker 8: I totally agree, you know what I mean. And but
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talking about basketball because you know, not thing has really
happened in the football world of BUYU the last forty
eight hours, you know.
Speaker 6: So let's just talk about basketball.
Speaker 2: Ben love this, Let's talk some who But hey, give
your thoughts real quick on the Kalini Shataki retention and
the future of BUA football.
Speaker 8: You know, so I much like you, I know a
little bit more than the average person. And that's just
because you know who we are and everything that we've done,
and so to be able to see how everything unraveled
and and the way that that everything's played out.
Speaker 6: You know, probably the only thing that I.
Speaker 8: Will say, Ben is, you know, the tidening of it
always a little bit interesting, just because you know, and
I would love to have you answer me this. You know,
is buyu's game coming up this Saturday or one of
the top five most important games in program history?
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt about it, much enss.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we weren't able to We have not
been able to get.
Speaker 2: Over the humph into elites similar to like similar to basketball.
Basketball is the team that has gone to the NCAA
Tournament the most without seeing a Final four BYU football,
I think has won more football games since nineteen seventy two. Well,
let's go into the modernor since like nineteen ninety six,
and has not been able to get over the hump
to a bcs KI type of championship game, a college
football playoff game. Everybody else has seen and reaped the
rewards of great to elite college football play in a season.
We always kind of sit right there in the great
but not elite eleven and two, eleven and two, eleven
and two, eleven and two so often eleven and one.
Remember in twenty twenty we were on the knocking on
the door and we lost Ta Coosa, Carolina. We were
right there, you know, and we just can't seem to
get over the hump. I hope this is the year
that we get over the hump.
Speaker 6: And I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 8: And so that is probably the only thing that I
will say that to me is just a little bit odd.
And that is you know, why now, why go through
all of this?
Speaker 6: Now you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: And so but again, none of us ben know every
single possible detail of everything, and so we can all.
Speaker 6: Speculate, and that is insane, you know.
Speaker 8: And you've been you probably know way more than anybody
else around here. But that is the only possible thing
that I would say, is I just the timing of
it for me is odd. Aside from that band, we
both know Kalan, and you know him much better than
I do. I. You know, when I was a Disneyland
and I saw him and you and I talked about this,
he went out of his way to make me feel loved,
to make me feel appreciated. And it was just around
the time that he did his devotional talk. And you
know the type that he said.
Speaker 2: Is it true that he said you have the quickest
shot release and be a way basketball history?
Speaker 8: Come on, man, I mean he and the only ones
saying that, Yeah it now, Hey, Stevie Wonder can see that.
Speaker 6: And the man is blind or.
Speaker 8: At least that's what they say, right, So come on
and so, but I would say this Ben like listening
to Killannie, like I wanted to put some paths in,
I wanted to put a helmet in. I was ready
to run through a wall for the men. And so,
and we know the type of man he is. He
was absolutely you know, and knowing a little bit more
like you and I do, knowing little details about what's
happening with him with k why with the program no.
Speaker 6: Way Shit Perform.
Speaker 8: He was like, hey, match what I just got. And
not only he wasn't saying that, but you was asking
for Hey, let's take care of all of our guys
so we can keep this this this train going. And
so that's the type of man that he is, right
And you know, after seeing everything, you know, the only
negative things that I have to say about not Killanne
about the entire process. Is the timing of it for
me is funny, but it's it's very well observing none.
Speaker 2: Oftheless love that, uh, and I'm excited that you know,
all of us have our our specific interpersonal anecdotes with Kialani.
He goes about ministering and making everyone feel special. He's
got a he's got a photographic memory as well, and
all of that aids him and making us all feel
like we're lifting where we stand and we're supporting Cougar athletics. Uh,
the best way that we can. Let's talk some BYU basketball. Look,
I've said this and it is kind of piggybacking off
this colonial take news.
Speaker 3: I wrote a piece last night.
Speaker 2: I said, look, you know b YU Basketball and Brian
Santiago set the presidents for what we're willing and capable
of of of investing in our athletic programs, in our UH,
in our in our flagship programs b YU men's basketball
and BAU football.
Speaker 3: Like he set the standard.
Speaker 2: I mean he brought in Ky, paid him a lot
of money, right, got it approved, created an MBA staff,
We got the Phoenix Sun nutritionists, we got the Milwaukee
Bucks strength and additioning staff. We have the mental performance
staff from Milwaukee Bucks. We got G League, we got
EuroLeague coaches, we have a robust infrastructure. And then on
top of that, we have nil investment, a robust nil
investment that is probably, at worst, top twenty five, At
best it's top ten. So that's the bar. So that's
what we see. And so we're like, wait, well, what's
where's BYU at in this mix?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Where's BYU football at in the mix? And so now
we're seeing Okay, now the investment is the just investment
is going to what drives the ship.
Speaker 3: JT.
Speaker 2: I know it hurts to say it, but football drives
the ship. Are you surprised at the investment? Hold on, no,
we surprised at the investment that BYU just made. And
it's it's fan base to the driver of the ship
at BYU.
Speaker 8: So first of all, let me, I'm gonna play a
little bit of that Devil's Advocate here.
Speaker 6: You know, I love you.
Speaker 8: You and I go back. We know each other longer.
Speaker 6: Than our wives. No, no, what do so?
Speaker 8: So come on now, you know we go back, you know,
and I are tight, right, don't the way Brian Santiago
has been positioned at this whole situation I don't agree with.
Speaker 6: I don't agree with at.
Speaker 8: All, because here's the situation. How do we not know
that all of this was going to get done? Do
any of us actually know for a fact when Elder
Rathbind was contacted, if and when he was contacted, do
we know how everything unraveled? And the answer is we
do not. Okay, And so now again, I absolutely love
kialaniky and none of what I'm about to say is
that football doesn't deserve you know, deserve it sprop and
that ball shouldn't be having what they're having right now.
How do we know that this wasn't going to happen
because Brian Santiago, Well excuse me, Tom Homo okay uh
and the athletic department took care of Kilani last year. Now,
I am you've seen social media. You and Ron have
seen social media a lot. I showed a lot of
support to Kilanie. I love Kilani.
Speaker 6: I think Kilani should.
Speaker 8: Be getting everything else he is getting and then some.
But the heat that Brian Santiago is getting, I don't
think it's I don't think it's deserving.
Speaker 3: Well, because Brian should know what he is getting.
Speaker 2: All I saw was Brian set the president the presidents
for for investment in basketball, and then he became the
A D. And now, I mean, look, he hasn't been
ad all that long overseeing football, and now when when
when it came down to it, he was willing to
advocate and invest into by football as you did basketball.
Speaker 3: So that that was my that.
Speaker 6: But but by you saying, come on, JT. It drives
the ship, it drives the ship.
Speaker 3: You know you've always said basketball is is? Uh is?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's your jam like they drive the football.
Speaker 8: Hold on, hold on now, hey, Ron Weaver the third,
go on and pull up all the audios, because I
have always said that football drives the ship. Now hold
up now, I always said that.
Speaker 9: Hell I do have to divin and say that. He
has said, look, we want the football.
Speaker 3: Does we know football is intelligion?
Speaker 4: They running? He has said that. I can't confirm it.
Speaker 6: And not only Dad, because.
Speaker 8: I wasn't in a privileged position that I got to
do an internship my entire senior year where I shadowed
and followed Tom Homo and I got to work close
to Dallan Moody.
Speaker 6: I got to work close with Chad.
Speaker 8: William, I got to work firsthand with Chad Lewis, I
got to see all of the ins and outs of
the athletic department. So I would be the biggest school
in the galaxy. For me to say that BYU is
a basketball school. Now, BYU, and I've told you this,
BYU football would have to implode to epic proportions and
BYU basketball would have to win the national championship to
even make a dant on BYU becoming a basketball school.
And so my point of this whole thing is I
never doubted for a second that Brian in the athletic
department in BYU were going.
Speaker 6: To get something done right.
Speaker 8: And you never doubted that's because that's everybody knows that
BYU football drives the ship.
Speaker 6: Brian himself said right. And so I.
Speaker 8: Fully, I fully believe that BYU football is getting exactly
what they deserve and they should probably get even more.
And I say that because football drives the ship. Because
one sold out Lavelle Edwards game means that you have
to do three sold out.
Speaker 6: BYU basketball games.
Speaker 8: The math is very simple on this, and so and
so LUs when your football team goes to the college
football playoffs. The playoffs are much much bigger than if
your team wins the NCAA Final Four.
Speaker 6: So it's a simple mass situation, right.
Speaker 8: And so now what I will say, and I completely
agree with this, you know, on the sort I'm looking for,
on the not the flow, but on the talk track,
which is b YU football BYU basketball. Set the bar
because Kilani was making more than Kevin Young got hired
and he was making here and Kilane was making a
little bit more. Kalani did have a heck of a
season and got a raise. Kevin Young got a heck
of a season, got a bigger raise, and now Toilani
had another amazing, historic season. And now Kilani is simply saying, look,
we got to keep this going. We got to match
to where things are. And I think that's totally fair. Again,
I'm a total defender of everything that Kilani has asked
and at everything. The only positive little black God I
can put on all of this. Ben and as a player,
been we've talked about this. One football game has the
way of about ten basketball games. You and I have
talked about this before. Tell me if what I'm saying
is crazy.
Speaker 6: As a player.
Speaker 8: Do you think that every single every single player in
that locker room right now, they have been at beast
this entire week?
Speaker 3: Have they been a beast? Is that what you said?
Speaker 6: Have they been at peace? At peast?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: At at peace?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think they were. You know,
I think they saw maybe Saturday nights into Sunday.
Speaker 3: If they monitor social.
Speaker 2: Media, their parents, their family friends monitor social media, they
begin to not be at peace, uh in through Monday.
I think I think Kilani tried to placate some of
those anxieties in their traditional pre practice meeting right and
probably you know, during and after practice, I think he
assured the coaching staff and the players everything's gonna work out.
But I don't think they were peaceful. But now they are.
I mean, now they're they're yacked, man. They are excited.
They're gonna engage with fervor this opportunity to win a
big world championship and go to the Collge football playoff.
Speaker 3: Maybe the timing is just right.
Speaker 8: Well, And I think that that's where I'm not gonna
totally disagree with you.
Speaker 6: I just don't know, right And and I think that
instead of.
Speaker 8: Saying then I disagree with you.
Speaker 6: The timing is terrible.
Speaker 8: What I will say is been I don't know if
the timing.
Speaker 6: Is the best.
Speaker 8: And so that you know, you say that they're gonna
be yacked and excited and beast mode and they're gonna have,
you know, that critle courage to just you know, just
go ahead and get that Weaver win right, however else
we want to paint this. But what I'm gonna say is,
I don't know if it was the best sign. That
is my only thing, the only negative thing that I
have to say. But you know, aside from that Ben
on the Kilaney front, I have a hard time believing
that there is a better person to lead this football team.
And I love them in I think the world of him.
I think he truly is one of one and I'm
grateful that he's on our side, no.
Speaker 3: Doubt about it.
Speaker 2: B YU Basketball, where do we stand right now? What's
the latest? I know Dawson Baker had that left knee injury.
It looks like he's sustained in ACL injury and anti
your crusehit ligament injury.
Speaker 3: He'll be out for the season.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's got a red shirt available if
I'm not mistaken, so that his career seemingly is done
at BYU, Nate Pickens is out, your guard line is
getting whittled down. What does that mean for BYU basketball
this season?
Speaker 8: Listen, I've said this for a very long time.
Speaker 6: You know, not.
Speaker 8: Everybody has agreed with me. But one of the things
that I will say, Ben is to me, this is
the perfect moment where I if I had the say
on any of this stuff, what I would personally do
is I would figure out a way to get AJ
to become a little bit more, a little bit more
point guard dominant, because there is a way that you
can make sure that him and Robert Wright are playing
off each other of being on the court and so
that they are the two primary ball handlers.
Speaker 6: They already are, we.
Speaker 8: Know that, and so but I would try to figure
out a way to have AJ, you know, be the
secondary ball handler behind Robert Wright.
Speaker 6: And you know, I know, Ron, you and I have.
Speaker 8: Talked about this a lot. AJ Tracy McGrady ag comparisons.
Speaker 6: I still think that.
Speaker 8: The AJ has the potential to be much more like
Penny Hardaway and Team MAC more than he has the
potential to be a Cavin Garnett and a team Max.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you wanted to chime in on that, Ronald,
but you know, like I'm all in on it. Look
as far as the we've discussed this on the show
with Nate Pickens injury, You're like, Okay, well, who's going
to be a primary ball handler behind Rob right the third?
You look at what you have available obvi ce Dawson's
has play point guard, but he's more of a shooting guard.
He was running off screens a little bit, making shots
and transition from the wing, but he can't handle.
Speaker 3: He's definitely a score. To me.
Speaker 2: What you're losing Dawson Baker is his uncanny ability to score.
His obviously spot up shooting as well. I would love
to see his release be a little bit quicker, but
he's got good mechanics.
Speaker 3: He's a good score. He's a great shooter.
Speaker 2: You lose out on that, you know, Coachstick, I don't
know what his status is. He looked a little bit
shaky early on with his handle, but he can shoot it.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe he steps up.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the replacement for Dawson Baker as more of
a shooting guard, and that quick release coming off the
bench and being the sixth man.
Speaker 3: But but Aj, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: Being a distributor, a playmaker, a ball handler, get him
the ball anyway you can.
Speaker 3: That dude is so special, just one of a kind to.
Speaker 9: Hop in here, Ben, because uh, JT and I've talked
about this, I agree with JT. Stake the more goes
on of the Penny Hardaway just of how you know
he's able to score and like get and play it
all three levels in quite frankly, the defense.
Speaker 3: This is none against T mac.
Speaker 9: But I think the way Penny Hardaway could guard compared
to Tracy McGrady was a little bit different in that
way that we're talking about. But I think with Costitch
with Alexi, confidence I think is the biggest thing being
because the shots there, like you, you can't guard that.
Like Kevin Young said that if you leave him open
or if you don't find him, like Steph Curry, he'll
burn you. And not saying he's Steph, but that's what
he can do. He's best off ball. I don't know
if he's gonna be better on ball. That might have
to be a skill he develops, but he's gonna have
to step up, like there's not they have no choice.
Ben when you look at the depth of the roster,
AJ can have it more in his hands. But Alexi's
gonna play based on now merit and like what has happened,
So he's gonna have to step up and figure it out.
He can dribble, but he's a better shooter than he is.
But if there's anybody I trust, and I think j
T would agree with me, I trust his staff to
figure it out. But Alexi's gonna have to play because
they literally now have to turn to him when Rob
goes to the bench.
Speaker 8: Which which to me one thing that I'm gonna add
to what Ron said to me. This whole thing is
interesting because you know, as we look at pedigree, right
when you look at pattigre elected elected may have the
the one of the biggest pedigrees out of everybody on
this team. I mean, he was getting massive minutes in
the Adriatic League. It's not like he was playing at
you know, community college Boo Boo State University. He was
playing at a really high level in Europe, and so
for him to not be getting playing times at the beginning,
I was pretty surprised about that's and so, but as
as he gets like Ron said, you knowsy not necessarily
by merit, but because of necessity. It's interesting to see
how that's going.
Speaker 6: To unravel the b.
Speaker 8: Y U season because they are in a situation that
they need them point blank.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Tabinari on the Li Cougar Sports one of three,
nine ninety eight point three ESPN. The fans talking by
U basketball. Uh what's up next for the by U
basketball team? And uh how will they uh use the
momentum that they created in Orlando though to continue their
winning ways? What are we looking forward to? Give me
a little scattering report on the schedule?
Speaker 8: Jt Oh, I'm looking to see what bu Yu does
a game.
Speaker 2: Obviously there's tomorrow and then they have and they have
Clemson on December ninth, the following week at the the
in New York City at the Jimmy B Classic.
Speaker 8: I believe, and if you guys want to do something special,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be at that game.
Speaker 2: By the way, I am what are you gonna what
are you going out eastward just for the game?
Speaker 3: Are you working to You're gonna double dip?
Speaker 6: No? I have I actually have a working trip that
I was I may or may not have been able.
Speaker 8: To perfectly time it with with this game. And uh,
thankfully my afully thankfully my b my boss is an
East Coast guy, and uh so maybe we can added
this out of Twitter and uh but you know we'll
be able to go there. I have an event Monday,
that's right, I have an event on Monday. I get
to go to the game on Tuesday. I come back
on Wednesday. But you know, I think right now these
next two games and for actually most of the games
in December, is can they just go I think it's
five and oh, six and oh and just be able
to tune up, try a few new things for conference
and to Ron's point, to be able to get elect
pay ready because they're gonna need them now. And you know, Ben,
she your point about Baker. He was actually playing minutes
as the secondary ball handler when when Robert Wright came
off the bench, can't went to the bench. And so
to me, it's going to be a time for you
to make sure that that alect say is ready to go,
or that you're adjusting things in a way so that
AJ and the rotation the way they're going to do it.
Speaker 6: It's all set and ready to go.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Tabinari Ladies and gentlemen, j T for three, make
sure you're following him on X and listening to him
every Tuesday here on the ESPN the Fan.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, JT.
Speaker 8: Always and forever go foods and glad that Klannie stay.
Speaker 2: Home as in my as in my we got our
guys Kevin Young as well as Kolani Sataki leading our
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