Speaker 1: It's nice eyes, Dan Ray, I'm telling you Mazy Boston's
Speaker 1: News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're in the advice category part of the program tonight,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking for your advice as to who are
Speaker 2: going to lead who will lead the Democrats out of
Speaker 2: the wilderness. As we mentioned earlier tonight, Bernie Sanders was
Speaker 2: talking about things yesterday on with Jonathan Carl and ABC,
Speaker 2: and he he was upset with a question that Carl
Speaker 2: asked him about whether or not AOC should run against
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer. So I'm I'm going to go to coptic next,
Speaker 2: and then I leaned. But before I do, just to
Speaker 2: reset here. I want people to hear what Bernie Sanders
Speaker 2: had to say. Let us play the shorter version of
Speaker 2: that cut, Rob, which is cut number eighteen. This is
Speaker 2: Sanders being asked a question by Jonathan Carl, who's the
Speaker 2: friendly reporter to the Democrats. There's no question about that,
Speaker 2: and he Sanders is offended by the question and basically
Speaker 2: accuses Carl of being unprofessional and Carl, Jonathan Carl basically
Speaker 2: begs Sanders to sit back down. This is cut eighteen, Rob.
Speaker 3: Please, I am so impressed by her work in Congress
Speaker 3: and her just she inspires young people all over the country.
Speaker 3: Would you like to see her joining in the Senate?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: We have, as I said, just a whole lot of
Speaker 3: people in the Congress. Okay, Jonathan, thanks.
Speaker 2: Way, I got one one that's important.
Speaker 3: Well, I asked you, Okay, you know you want to
Speaker 3: do nonsense to nonsense. No, I don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about inside the beltway slop. I got thirty two thousand people.
Speaker 3: I was just asking me about AOC because she was fine.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to talk about this. What was
Speaker 3: the last question?
Speaker 2: I was gonna asking you one more question about you?
Speaker 2: I mean that's all. I was not literally lost. What
Speaker 2: is your question?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean you can't get him to sit down in
Speaker 2: the chair. I mean, I finally want to ask you
Speaker 2: about your future. This the biggest crowd, you said, usually
Speaker 2: ran for president twice. This is the biggest crowd you've
Speaker 2: ever seen. Are we gonna see you run again?
Speaker 3: Or what's your what's your fils? Right now? I am
Speaker 3: very proud that the people who the state of Vermont
Speaker 3: sent me back to the Senate with sixty three percent
Speaker 3: of the work right now, Vermont's senator. That's what I do,
Speaker 3: and I'm very happy to do it. I am eighty
Speaker 3: three years of age.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 2: Again, that's fine. Maybe it'll be Elizabeth Warren. Maybe Elizabeth
Speaker 2: Warren will lead the Democrats out of the builderness. How
Speaker 2: about that. I'm going to nominate Elizabeth Warren. Who would
Speaker 2: you like to nominate to lead the Democrats. I think
Speaker 2: AOC should run against Schumor, simple as that, and let's
Speaker 2: see what direction of the Democratic Party wants to go.
Speaker 2: Coptick in Boston, Coptick, I appreciate your patience. You've held
Speaker 2: through the news for me.
Speaker 6: Thank you, No you know what I'm doing them, Thank
Speaker 6: you so much for taking you know, I just to
Speaker 6: get off my work by ten o'clock. And when I
Speaker 6: listened to your radio, I said, no, I want to come.
Speaker 2: Oh you go right ahead. I'm listening to go ahead.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm trying to say that color. You know, she
Speaker 6: didn't disappoint you only, but she's appointed me. And I
Speaker 6: believed millions of the listeners about her ideas about processing
Speaker 6: the process with these criminals and illegal who getting inside
Speaker 6: crossing the borders. One trying to say, then, I told
Speaker 6: you like five days, I mean five years ago. If
Speaker 6: you remember you remember when I told you looks like
Speaker 6: a first day party. You are inviting some guys to
Speaker 6: your first day party, and one of them is acting
Speaker 6: up to your first body, you know, but you're giving
Speaker 6: him a chance for the next year to come home.
Speaker 6: But he's still acting up. So in the third time,
Speaker 6: do you think that you can invite him again to
Speaker 6: your third body so he can acting up and do
Speaker 6: a lot of crazy stuff with your friends. No, you're
Speaker 6: gonna cake here, or at least you're not gonna invite him.
Speaker 6: What I mean about this point is whatever Donald Trump
Speaker 6: is doing is the correct way. He needs to clean up.
Speaker 6: He need to kick all of these illegals and the
Speaker 6: criminals and the character and the gang is people are
Speaker 6: from you know, away with us. Our priority here for you,
Speaker 6: for me, for all the families is the safety and
Speaker 6: the homeland security. Is He's doing very good job. We
Speaker 6: need to kick these guys away from here. We don't need,
Speaker 6: as you said, we don't need any more criminals in
Speaker 6: this beautiful country. I've been here twenty six years. Then
Speaker 6: you know I love this country. You know I'm a
Speaker 6: US citizen, and I really you know, I love this
Speaker 6: country from all my heart, whatever Donald Trump is doing
Speaker 6: is the correct one. And let me ask you something
Speaker 6: there after Donald Trump done with his time, and there
Speaker 6: is another one is gonna come to be united the
Speaker 6: president of the United States or whatever it's going to
Speaker 6: be like a Democratic. Do you think he's gonna do
Speaker 6: the same way of the Donald Trump. Why every time
Speaker 6: we get somebody like a Democratic, he he messing up everything,
Speaker 6: like Joe Biden, like Obama. And they don't care about
Speaker 6: the borders, they don't care about the homeland security. Why
Speaker 6: we why we we we need like this file, nobody
Speaker 6: touched it.
Speaker 2: Well, let me let me disagree with you a little bit, okay,
Speaker 2: and let me tell you what I honestly believe. I
Speaker 2: respect your opinions. But President Obama actually was much better
Speaker 2: on the border than Joe Biden. I mean, he wasn't
Speaker 2: even close. President Obama deported about three million people. He
Speaker 2: was called by the far left the deporter in chief.
Speaker 2: But he was so popular that he was able to
Speaker 2: do that. Now Joe Biden, the other hand, I think
Speaker 2: I'm not sure when Joe Biden stopped being president. I
Speaker 2: know it was before January twentieth, twenty twenty five. We're
Speaker 2: finding out now that he was using an auto pen.
Speaker 2: I watched George Clooney last night on sixty Minutes, which
Speaker 2: was very interesting. You know, Clooney who had raised money
Speaker 2: for him and then wrote that devastating article which was accurate,
Speaker 2: but the timeline was that I think it was pretty
Speaker 2: obvious that Joe Biden had long since lost his fastball
Speaker 2: and we were misled as a country. We were misled
Speaker 2: as a country by the leaders of the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: that he was sharp as attack and in private meetings
Speaker 2: he was so good and he was under control. He
Speaker 2: was not, and the Democrats paid a price for that.
Speaker 2: They paid a heavy price for that, and I think
Speaker 2: that they're in real trouble here going forwards. I think
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party had better, you know, decide what they're
Speaker 2: going to do and whether or not they're going to
Speaker 2: follow along and keep going to the looney left. I mean,
Speaker 2: they are so far out there. I've never seen the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party uh this far out. And I have a
Speaker 2: lot of friends of the Democratic Party. They are Joe
Speaker 2: Biden has allowed, has allowed basically the lunatics take take
Speaker 2: over the asylum. Okay, And when I say the lunatics,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people in the Democratic Party who
Speaker 2: would have open borders and who and who would I mean,
Speaker 2: I have no idea why, uh, members of the of
Speaker 2: the so called the caucus, the Democratic Caucus here the
Speaker 2: Nancy Yeah, Nancy Pelosi, Right, did you just play that?
Speaker 2: Rob That was an accident. I think I think it
Speaker 2: was Nancy Pelosi slipping in the squad. The squad, I mean,
Speaker 2: who elects people who are members of the squad. I
Speaker 2: mean there are Democrats who I respect and admire here
Speaker 2: even in Massachusetts. Seth Moulton is a good guy. He
Speaker 2: he represents he we disagree on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Steve Lynch is a normal Democrat. Lori Trahan, I think
Speaker 2: is a normal Democrat. I mean, you know, they're kind
Speaker 2: of you know, traditional, They're going to disagree. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna like Donald Trump. That's what it's all about. But
Speaker 2: there are other Democrats in this state who do not
Speaker 2: represent the best interest of the Democratic Party. They might
Speaker 2: represent their best interest to get elected in a a
Speaker 2: in a specific district. I mean, I like the idea
Speaker 2: of a two party system. That's why I fight for
Speaker 2: a two party system here at Massachusett, which we don't have,
Speaker 2: and now I'm fighting for two party systems in the country,
Speaker 2: which pretty soon we might not have. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6: The point is then, you know, I really respect that.
Speaker 6: I know it's different opinion all of this stuff, but
Speaker 6: I just want to I want to advise anybody like
Speaker 6: gotta talk about the homeland security Like this scholar I
Speaker 6: believe her name is Susan, you know, she said that
Speaker 6: we want to do some process with these criminals. You
Speaker 6: guys have to you have to think carefully that the
Speaker 6: people who are crossing the borders. It's not only like
Speaker 6: the Ganghisters and all of this stuff. No, you can
Speaker 6: find a lot of people coming from different countries like Syria,
Speaker 6: like Pakistan, like Egyptian.
Speaker 1: Sure, whatever the terrorist terrorists allow, why do we allow
Speaker 1: some of the why don't we allow some of the
Speaker 1: terrorists in the country.
Speaker 2: Okay, give them the same due process rights as all
Speaker 2: of us. And if they detonate a suitcase nuke somewhere
Speaker 2: in Boston and New York's City, we then might say, well,
Speaker 2: maybe we should have been a little stricter with them.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand, you know. Again, I forget whether
Speaker 2: it was Franklin or someone h at one point talked
Speaker 2: about democracy and all the rights that we have. It
Speaker 2: should not be a suicide packed and I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: afraid that someone's gonna say, well, we got to give everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, let's let's bring more sinnae of brothers back
Speaker 2: into America because we need more people like the Sinaevs
Speaker 2: who will blow up Americans. I mean, think if only
Speaker 2: we had thrown those bums out of the country before
Speaker 2: they slaughtered people at the marathon. We we we had
Speaker 2: amnesia in this country, and I think I think people
Speaker 2: better wake up. Uh. Coptic, I gotta run and gave
Speaker 2: you a lot of time.
Speaker 6: Thank you for so much. Again, I supposed to Trump.
Speaker 6: I supposed to him very strongly.
Speaker 2: I got it. It was very clear you've made you
Speaker 2: made your point that I got other people. I got
Speaker 2: to get to Coptic. Call again. We can have another cannversation. Okay, sure,
Speaker 2: thank you there, Thank you, good night. We'll take a break,
Speaker 2: coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios.
Speaker 2: On w b Z the news Radio. Let's catch up
Speaker 2: here a little bit with Eileen. Eileen, thanks for your
Speaker 2: patience and holding on you. Next on night see night side.
Speaker 2: I Lean welcome, Hello, Hi, II Leen welcome. How are
Speaker 2: you tonight?
Speaker 7: Welcome to you, Good evening, Dan, quick four quick points.
Speaker 7: Where was all the noise when Biden was flying illegal immigrants?
Speaker 7: Whoever was running the government while Biden was asleep flew
Speaker 7: illegal immigrants into the United States?
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it, but they were there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, where was no Where were the judges?
Speaker 2: Where was the ug The judges were asleep. The judges were.
Speaker 7: Asleep, They were asleep with Biden. Okay. Two, how many
Speaker 7: of these people who want these criminals back here William
Speaker 7: to sponsor them while they're here.
Speaker 2: The incident? That is zero?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they want all these illegals here?
Speaker 1: How many?
Speaker 7: How many? There were a couple of people who have
Speaker 7: legitimate claim to say that, and they're not Democrats and
Speaker 7: Republicans and they're on Fox News. They've done that. But
Speaker 7: here's the thing, Mayor ru how many illegal immigrants are
Speaker 7: Shoes's sponsoring?
Speaker 1: How many is zero?
Speaker 7: How many about our governor?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 7: Zero? But we're supposed to sponsor them with taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, we do sponsor them. We've sponsored them with two
Speaker 2: billion dollars of taxpayer dollars, two billion dollars, and now
Speaker 2: we're cutting back school budgets in North end Over and
Speaker 2: the kids instead of being in school today listening and learning,
Speaker 2: they were out protesting, which is great, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's wonderful. It's a well run though, protesting that they
Speaker 2: were cuts going to be made, and they wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had to have.
Speaker 7: Made the a little protest during the pandemic. The charter
Speaker 7: schools were in session, yep. Absolutely, The private schools were
Speaker 7: in session, The Catholic schools were in session, the Christian
Speaker 7: schools were in session. The only schools that were in
Speaker 7: session are the ones that the teachers union represented by.
Speaker 7: That's that's a whole nother story though, And my my third,
Speaker 7: my third point on this bringing these criminals back, what
Speaker 7: message are we sending to the rest of the criminals
Speaker 7: that are going to come here?
Speaker 6: Come, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Do you remember do you remember when we used to
Speaker 2: play tag as a kid in the backyard many years ago,
Speaker 2: and when it got to be dark, someone would call
Speaker 2: all the alli entry, which meant, you know, wherever you're hiding,
Speaker 2: come on out, the game's over. All the all the entry.
Speaker 2: That's that should be the campaign slogan for the Democrats.
Speaker 2: All the ali doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, Democrats have lied so much to the
Speaker 7: American people and they used to be able to get
Speaker 7: away with that. But with all the sources of information,
Speaker 7: now that doesn't that's how to do.
Speaker 2: Here's what my problem is. And I should have asked
Speaker 2: Susan this. And you know, Susan is is a friend
Speaker 2: of mine. Have never met her, but we've had a
Speaker 2: phone relationship over the years, and she's welcome and she's
Speaker 2: tough enough to take it. When I I was really
Speaker 2: got upset tonight because I don't want to be lectured
Speaker 2: about due process. These guys don't deserve due process.
Speaker 7: Not American citizens.
Speaker 2: They're not American citizens. There's there's a moderk. Look, if
Speaker 2: some family comes across the border in search of a
Speaker 2: better life, have come here illegally, we can give them
Speaker 2: some due process and and then you know, okay, uh,
Speaker 2: and maybe if they have a legitimate asylum claim, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to deal with I don't want
Speaker 2: to have our law enforcement UH in charge of dealing
Speaker 2: with these guys are killers, rapists.
Speaker 6: The barbarians.
Speaker 7: Let's see it that way.
Speaker 2: Is thirteen wannabes, okay, And the fact that people can't
Speaker 2: see that, what do they want? I mean, what do
Speaker 2: we have to have a couple of suitcase nukes exploded
Speaker 2: in major American cities to get to get our what's
Speaker 2: wrong with us? What is wrong with us as a
Speaker 2: at this point?
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, this is my I mean, I
Speaker 7: use I'm a longtime Massachusetts Irish Catholic, et cetera. So
Speaker 7: originally obviously a Democrat, right, that's how we all were.
Speaker 2: You were born a Democrat.
Speaker 6: But the hate.
Speaker 7: That's coming out, I mean, the hate and the violence
Speaker 7: coming out of the Democratic Party, it just flows me.
Speaker 7: It shocks me even even Okay, And a perfect example.
Speaker 7: You know Mark Kelly, who's ex asta yep, whose wife
Speaker 7: was the victim of political violence. Yes, he got on
Speaker 7: he reached did you see this video where he recently
Speaker 7: go on TV and said he was getting umbers tesla
Speaker 7: And I'm saying, we do you? Are you just? I
Speaker 7: mean that's inciting violence? Well yeah, and I would love
Speaker 7: And this is the iriny is he certainly walking up
Speaker 7: in his space station. There's the iry of that, thank God,
Speaker 7: he wasn't up there because he's gotter have to say
Speaker 7: thank you to bust Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh he's he's walking. He's walking a line, that's
Speaker 2: for sure. Eileen, I love it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: As always, You're welcome.
Speaker 6: A lovely evening.
Speaker 2: Do me a favorite, call more off and tell your
Speaker 2: friends about the show. Okay, I need to I need
Speaker 2: to be I need to be reassured that there were
Speaker 2: more people. What happens on this show?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: People? Tell me? Oh, listen every night, you listen every night.
Speaker 7: Study were starting to form an organization. I happened to
Speaker 7: be Irish Catholic, but I'm forming it with some Jewish
Speaker 7: friends against anti Semitism. So I'll give you a heads
Speaker 7: up as things happen.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you organization.
Speaker 7: My goal is to get one hundred thousand houses next
Speaker 7: Christmas with blue and white lights on them Christian health.
Speaker 2: That's a great goal. I got to tell you. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm Irish Catholic and I am fiercely against anti Semites.
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about anti Semitism.
Speaker 7: This isn't just anti Semitism, it's anti God. It's anti
Speaker 7: Christian too. Well, it's plenty of good finish.
Speaker 2: Point if I could, If you don't mind, I just
Speaker 2: finished my point. I had the benefit of a of
Speaker 2: a parent, a father who had served in World War Two,
Speaker 2: who taught me early on what went on during World
Speaker 2: War Two as a child. And I start myself when
Speaker 2: I visited Auschitz as a television reporter in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2: So I see so much anti Semitism in this country.
Speaker 2: We talk about it a lot in this show, will
Speaker 2: continue to talk about it, and if people are uncomfortable
Speaker 2: with it, then they need to listen to another show.
Speaker 2: Because anti Semitism, you know, is virulent, and it is fantastasized.
Speaker 2: It's a cancer. It's fantastized. When I was young, it
Speaker 2: was on the American far right and the American Nazi
Speaker 2: Party and those wackadoodles who had to march in Skokie, Illinois,
Speaker 2: and they had their First Amendment rights to march, but
Speaker 2: they certainly represented nothing but hate. And I saw and
Speaker 2: you got a scent sense of it down in Charlottesville,
Speaker 2: Virginia when they you know, they were coming out with
Speaker 2: the torches. But it is fantastasized to the American left,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people on the American Left, a
Speaker 2: legitimate American left, really do understand it, and they're coming
Speaker 2: around to it, and uh, that organization that that you
Speaker 2: have or that you're forming.
Speaker 6: I would be a true with a lot of with
Speaker 6: a lot of Jewish friends.
Speaker 7: I just happen to be the creative one there. They
Speaker 7: are the ones with the knowledge that I need.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, and I had a.
Speaker 7: Landlord actually that was in World War two in Germany,
Speaker 7: so he's a source of information too. It's just I
Speaker 7: just totally understanding. I can't understand it. I can't thank you,
Speaker 7: have a great night.
Speaker 2: Good I was I was saying to Eileen that so
Speaker 2: many of you out there sit at home and you
Speaker 2: say to you so well, I agree, I agree, I agree,
Speaker 2: I agree. Where are your voices? Where are your voices?
Speaker 2: And I mean that seriously, you know, your your voice
Speaker 2: is important. You know if you sit by and you
Speaker 2: don't express your opinion, many people sit at home and
Speaker 2: they say, well, I'm the only one that thinks that.
Speaker 2: You're not the only one that thinks. So wait, listen
Speaker 2: to the callers tonight. I feel free to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: Six one seven two thirty six month seven nine, three, one,
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Speaker 5: Go right ahead, Dan, I you know, you know I
Speaker 5: listen to you a lot at Call Plenty, But I'm
Speaker 5: always listening, and it's like one of my favorites. Even
Speaker 5: when we disagree. I like disagreeing with you too, and
Speaker 5: I agree and I disagree a little bit, like I'm
Speaker 5: not a big believer in parties. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: my son I had to register again. My son has
Speaker 5: been with me both times I voted for Trump, well
Speaker 5: to the three times I voted for Trump. He's twelve now,
Speaker 5: and I had to reregister the vote. I had to
Speaker 5: vote by affidavit, and for whatever reason, I had to reregister.
Speaker 5: And I showed him something. I said, I want you
Speaker 5: to watch what I do. And when I registered, I said,
Speaker 5: you see, here's all the parties Libertarian, Republican, Democrat. I said,
Speaker 5: here's how I register, and I checked no party. And
Speaker 5: I told him why, And I said, because one day,
Speaker 5: like the who said, when a party on the left
Speaker 5: becomes a party on the right, and the party that
Speaker 5: I had an allegiance to becomes something else. I don't
Speaker 5: want to feel that I have to vote for them.
Speaker 5: So I try to keep my prom like you.
Speaker 2: I'm an independent. I'm unenrolled. I have never been a
Speaker 2: registered Democrat nor a registered Republican. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I think it's sixty percent of the people in Massachusetts
Speaker 2: are unenrolled.
Speaker 5: But I believe that.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know how to appeal to the unenrolled by talking about.
Speaker 4: Issues, right, And I believe that, especially recently, I have
Speaker 4: been forced into a tribe, But I don't belong. I've
Speaker 4: always followed politics, even before I can vote, And I
Speaker 4: remember a young man, just you know, going to the
Speaker 4: college reading Washington's farewell address, and I'll never forget. Like
Speaker 4: one part that sticks to me particularly is when he says, however,
Speaker 4: political parties may now and then answer unpopular ends answer
Speaker 4: popular ends. They are likely, in the course.
Speaker 5: Of time and things, to become potent engines by which cunning, ambitious,
Speaker 5: and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power
Speaker 5: of the people and to usurp for themselves the reigns
Speaker 5: of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted
Speaker 5: them to unjust dominion. And today, more than ever, I
Speaker 5: understand that I believe right now because the system we have,
Speaker 5: we need the two party system, because Americans are accustomed
Speaker 5: to it. They're there's a lot of them have a
Speaker 5: superficial view of politics and they have to pick either
Speaker 5: blue or red. However, I also believe I remember when
Speaker 5: he was four, I voted for Trump and we're in
Speaker 5: a very red area at that time where I lived.
Speaker 5: And he said to me, realized, he goes, Daddy in
Speaker 5: the middle of the gymnasium, Daddy, did we vote for Trump?
Speaker 5: And I looked at him and I said, unfortunately, and
Speaker 5: everyone laughed, and I said, it's kind of like a
Speaker 5: choice between shooting yourself and the head or in the foot,
Speaker 5: and I think that he's the foot, and a lot
Speaker 5: of people I think feel that way right now. And
Speaker 5: I think the Democrat Party. I don't like when the
Speaker 5: Democrats switched to Republicans because I feel like they need
Speaker 5: to fix their party from within. I need to find
Speaker 5: Democrats I could vote for again. The RFK juniors, the
Speaker 5: Joe Manchins. These guys are now becoming older and not
Speaker 5: going to be there anymore, and we're going to be
Speaker 5: left with the aocs and the Bernie Sanders. I'm from
Speaker 5: an area where AOC is not that far away. She's
Speaker 5: been in our eye for a while. We see her
Speaker 5: all the time, and I'm not going to go into
Speaker 5: our history and the bartender and all this other stuff.
Speaker 5: I know bartenders that are smarter than lawyers. Okay, However,
Speaker 5: I will say that she has a very superficial view
Speaker 5: of politics and even a worse view of economics. And
Speaker 5: people like this having the platform that they have and
Speaker 5: the ability to govern and legislate and make laws with
Speaker 5: such little knowledge of what they're doing. We even had
Speaker 5: a president at one point, at least the first time
Speaker 5: he was elected, it literally had like an eighth grade
Speaker 5: knowledge of civics and we put this man in the
Speaker 5: White House. The last president we had was literally suffering
Speaker 5: from dementia, and he wasn't even the sharpest tool in
Speaker 5: the shed when he was the vice president or a senator.
Speaker 5: It's becoming to the point where I feel like I've
Speaker 5: been forced into a tribe and I'm voting for people
Speaker 5: and I'm flipping switches for people that I don't even
Speaker 5: agree with anymore. But it's just there better than the
Speaker 5: other guy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: No, it sometimes a choice between the lesser of two
Speaker 2: evils or the lesser of two incompetence. The bottom line
Speaker 2: is the best in the brightest are not the people
Speaker 2: who are running for office. There's no doubt about that,
Speaker 2: simple as that.
Speaker 5: And whn you imagine. Can you imagine if AOC one
Speaker 5: day was running for president, let's say four years from now,
Speaker 5: even they put her.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, she's guaranteed forty percent.
Speaker 5: Well, of course, because they'll just vote against whatever it
Speaker 5: is that the other side. I mean, I'm literally watching
Speaker 5: Donald Trump do things that were typically Democrat stances. And
Speaker 5: I'm watching Democrats now that believed in protectionism, believed in
Speaker 5: building the American workforce, believed in protecting union jobs, believed
Speaker 5: in making sure our jobs be stucked the weight all
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 2: It's all gone.
Speaker 5: I'm seeing them fight against it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's right. I agree with you. It's
Speaker 2: it's it is a It's an amazing thing to watch
Speaker 2: as a political scientist. Uh will, I got packed lines.
Speaker 2: I got to keep rolling here back as always, I
Speaker 2: appreciate your loyalty and I appreciate you having the courage
Speaker 2: to call the program and express yourself as well as
Speaker 2: you do every night, whether we know any night, whether
Speaker 2: we agree to agree. Thank you will appreciate it. Jim,
Speaker 2: you are next gym on nightside. Welcome back, All right ahead, sir.
Speaker 8: And hi, thanks for taking my call. How's your brackets?
Speaker 2: I don't do brackets, but if I did, they would
Speaker 2: they would already be gone.
Speaker 8: And I'm just just make a conversation. So hey, I
Speaker 8: tried to call earlier. But so I don't like to
Speaker 8: jump to conclusions because then I can make a mistake.
Speaker 8: So I guess what I'm just wondering. I mean, if
Speaker 8: I recall correctly, the judiciary is job is to interpret
Speaker 8: the law. So I'm just wondering what misinterpretation of the
Speaker 8: law has there been that this judge is issuing a
Speaker 8: stay of execution.
Speaker 2: Well, the judge, real simple, is concluding that the law
Speaker 2: that the president is relying upon, this Act from seventeen
Speaker 2: ninety eight, is not an appropriate application of the law. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what. I'm just trying to tell
Speaker 2: you what.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, okay, that's that's an answer. Now here's my
Speaker 8: next question. So what evidence was presented that made the
Speaker 8: judge at least tentatively to have that viewpoint?
Speaker 2: Because the judge read the statute from seventeen ninety eight
Speaker 2: and prima facia, the language of the law would say
Speaker 2: that the only people who could be effected by this
Speaker 2: would be citizens of nations with whom we were technically
Speaker 2: at war. And the administration is saying this group trente dragua,
Speaker 2: who have committed this country are basically a part of
Speaker 2: the Venezuelan government. They never would have been allowed to
Speaker 2: leave the country. They're coming here to raise havoc, They're
Speaker 2: coming here to cause substantial harm, and they in effect
Speaker 2: our invaders without military uniforms. But they are invaders who
Speaker 2: have tattoos, who identify themselves just as as military uniforms identify.
Speaker 2: When I see you, I don't shoot you because you're
Speaker 2: in a uniform.
Speaker 8: Okay, So how long I mean, how long does this
Speaker 8: stay of execution last before one or the other party
Speaker 8: has to show up with you know, before the judge renders.
Speaker 2: Finally, the first day of execution was debated today in
Speaker 2: front of a three judge federal panel in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: One of the judges was appointed by President Obama, one
Speaker 2: was actually appointed by President Trump, and one had been
Speaker 2: appointed by President Bush. They will decide if the stay
Speaker 2: of execution that judge Borsburg issued initially is appropriate, and
Speaker 2: they will either support him or overturn him. Whatever happens
Speaker 2: at the appeals court, at the three judge Appeals Court
Speaker 2: will then, I think, of necessity, go to the US
Speaker 2: Supreme Court and get the issue. It is, more broadly,
Speaker 2: Jiman is a question of what powers does the commander
Speaker 2: in chief have and what limitations can the judiciary impose
Speaker 2: upon a commander in chief? And I think on that issue,
Speaker 2: Trump eventually is going to prevail on this from a technical,
Speaker 2: from a legal point of view, from a legal analysis
Speaker 2: point of view, because you cannot have a single federal
Speaker 2: court judge. In effect, if let us say Donald Trump
Speaker 2: was doing something that was clearly unconstitutional, then then you
Speaker 2: have a federal court judge who can interfere because he's
Speaker 2: protecting the rights of citizens across the country. These folks
Speaker 2: who this judge is protecting one or not citizens number two,
Speaker 2: they they very well may have the characteristics as the
Speaker 2: administration is claiming of an invading army. And I know
Speaker 2: I'm getting into weeds with you a little bit here,
Speaker 2: but you know this is ask me because.
Speaker 8: Straight answer, I was playing Dan Ray to your Harvey Silverglade.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll order.
Speaker 8: Thanks thanks for listening, all right, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you for asking. Thanks Jim, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Have a great night. I should probably have Harvey on. Okay. Now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I got a couple of folks
Speaker 2: dropped off, so I got to take a break. When
Speaker 2: I come back on and talk with Tina in woond
Speaker 2: socket and I hope to talk with you, and I
Speaker 2: hope you have the courage to pick up the phone
Speaker 2: dial the number six one seven, two, five four ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty and
Speaker 2: feel free to tell me if you agree or disagree
Speaker 2: with what how this program has gone tonight. I think
Speaker 2: it's been The callers have been great, including my friend
Speaker 2: Susan from Cambridge. They have gone on different different points
Speaker 2: of view. Dan from Hampton, New Hampshire was a great caller.
Speaker 2: Feel free bring it on. We got about not twelve
Speaker 2: minutes left. I can handle a couple more callers. Talk
Speaker 2: to you on the other side. Now back to Dan
Speaker 2: Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios. I'm
Speaker 2: WBZ News Radio. Okay, we have three callers and I'm
Speaker 2: delighted to start it off. With Tina in Moonsocket, Rhode Island. Tina,
Speaker 2: you were next on nightside. Welcome?
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, Hi Dan. This is the question I want
Speaker 9: to pose. We have principles in this country where you're
Speaker 9: innocent until you're proven guilty. And I know there's a
Speaker 9: lot of people have came in across the border illegally,
Speaker 9: and are we supposed to believe Trump everything he said
Speaker 9: about this group Trente Agua. How do we know if
Speaker 9: there weren't any innocent people, don't they have the right
Speaker 9: or maybe they don't have the right to do process?
Speaker 9: What if there are some people who are not part
Speaker 9: of that group and they were just mixed in the fray?
Speaker 2: Do we just take.
Speaker 7: Trump's Trump's words at face value? Do we give up
Speaker 7: our principles as of Americans at.
Speaker 9: An innocent person means everything? And so the Trente Agua.
Speaker 6: What do you think about my.
Speaker 2: Point of view to give you an answer which may
Speaker 2: or may not be satisfactory to you. Okay, okay, there
Speaker 2: are gangs that have infiltrated across the border. Trent A
Speaker 2: Agua is one that comes out of Venezuela. M's thirteen
Speaker 2: comes out of El Salvador. Violent, vicious gangs that engage
Speaker 2: in literally rape murder. The worst, they execute people within
Speaker 2: their group if they're not loyal. These are groups that
Speaker 2: I do not want in the United States. Okay, we
Speaker 2: have a US Constitution. We have a US Constitution which
Speaker 2: does provide certain rights to all of us as citizens,
Speaker 2: and even rights to people who are in the country illegally.
Speaker 2: But at some point, as President Lincoln is said and
Speaker 2: others behind him have said, the constitution is not a
Speaker 2: suicide pact. If we do not realize that we have
Speaker 2: people in this country right now who want to do
Speaker 2: major harm, particularly those of us who live in Boston
Speaker 2: and have experienced the marathon bombings back in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: we are naive and these people are not here to
Speaker 2: visit the United States of America. They are here to
Speaker 2: wreck havoc. It's as simple as that. And if there
Speaker 2: is someone who has been deported inappropriately, let's find out
Speaker 2: who that person is, bring them back here, give them
Speaker 2: a due process hearing, and then deport them again.
Speaker 6: How do we do that if they're in that El
Speaker 6: Salvador in jail.
Speaker 2: Simple, real, simple. El El Salvador is holding these people
Speaker 2: at our request and I'm sure that if we said
Speaker 2: we made a mistake and we sent three people down there,
Speaker 2: or two people or one people, one person down there,
Speaker 2: I'm sure that the President of El Salvador, who work
Speaker 2: this deal with Secretary of State Rubio, would comply, Tina,
Speaker 2: I got to get two more in here. Who've been
Speaker 2: kind of Okay, great questions, great questions. I don't know
Speaker 2: if my answers were satisfactory, but it's the best I
Speaker 2: could do this late hour. Okay, thanks so much, Thank you,
Speaker 2: have a great night. Rick and Dover, Dover, Massachusetts. Rick,
Speaker 2: welcome back, go right ahead. Hey.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, I guess the question for the court is.
Speaker 10: Is a gang or whoever the government labels as a
Speaker 10: gang or a knitting group or a basketball team. Is
Speaker 10: that covered in the Aliens Act? I think it always
Speaker 10: says in countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there there's other language in the Act that the
Speaker 2: Trump administration is relying upon. And if that information was
Speaker 2: rejected by the well, I don't even know that there
Speaker 2: was argued in front of the single judge the appeals court.
Speaker 2: Certainly it would have been argued today, and eventually he's
Speaker 2: going to go to the US Supreme Court. It's as
Speaker 2: simple as that I believe. Rick. I know that you're
Speaker 2: a little bit more liberal than I am. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you the question. Yeah, seriously in your opinion,
Speaker 2: and you're a rational guy. You live in Dover. I
Speaker 2: have no idea what you do for a living, but
Speaker 2: you're smart. I know that there aren't too many dumb
Speaker 2: people live in Dover. Okay, it takes a few bucks
Speaker 2: to live out there. My question is what has to happen.
Speaker 2: We've had, uh, the brothers from Dagaistan slaughter people at
Speaker 2: the marathon. Main people at the marathon. Do not like
Speaker 2: a suitcase nukes to go off in this country? Or
Speaker 2: how many suitcase nukes before we finally tough it up
Speaker 2: and say, guess what we had open borders. We now
Speaker 2: have to correct and adjust. That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 9: No, I think we should do it by using the law.
Speaker 6: Maybe we need some new laws, you know, well maybe.
Speaker 2: But maybe. But the Supreme Court, if this administration is
Speaker 2: interpreting this law, let's take it up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: If the Supreme Court says, Trump, you're wrong, then then he's.
Speaker 10: Gonna have exactly but correcting are wrong. They shouldn't have
Speaker 10: happened because they didn't have the legal authority to do
Speaker 10: it after the fact.
Speaker 6: It's kind of definitely not.
Speaker 10: The way America's wist to know.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't need all the time. Hold on, waite, Rick,
Speaker 2: have you ever hear of the dred Scott decision that
Speaker 2: got corrected versus plus versus Ferguson. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're lawyer, but I and that got corrected. My career
Speaker 2: on the line, my friend, to get four innocent men
Speaker 2: out of prison. I hope you know that case. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go over it right now. I put
Speaker 2: my I know as a journalist.
Speaker 10: I don't think I should defying some judge and then
Speaker 10: decide later.
Speaker 2: He's not defying the judge. He's appealed it. I got
Speaker 2: one more call, Rick, I do me a favorite. We
Speaker 2: can have a longer conversation. But I love your call. You,
Speaker 2: I respect you. Thank you. John and Boston. John, you
Speaker 2: got the final word. I'm not sure how much time
Speaker 2: we have, Rob. Let me know, go ahead, John.
Speaker 1: Dan real quick. The Boston Marathon. Obamas came here and
Speaker 1: nine to eleven guys here bout twenty years so they
Speaker 1: came here with closed borders. Now we have open borders.
Speaker 1: I was listening to a military expert today, Travis A. Lee,
Speaker 1: who's saying this, four hundred thousand military age Chinesemen that
Speaker 1: come across the border in four years, and the real
Speaker 1: numbers illegals that come across the past four years are
Speaker 1: thirty to forty million illegals that have come across the border.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a little high, but I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: if it was twenty million.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Sarah Adams also, but Jean Intell.
Speaker 2: Hold on, John, I'm out of time. I really appreciate
Speaker 2: that you're called. Please call a little earlier next time
Speaker 2: and we'll get a much longer conversation when I'm flat out.
Speaker 1: Okay, Man, thank you, Mandan great danger, one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: fen on death. Thank you, have a great night.
Speaker 2: Good night, Thank you, Rob, thank you, Marita. Thanks to
Speaker 2: the callers and the listeners. All dogs, all cats, all
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