Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you come on in let's talk. I have
Speaker 1: posted a series of photographs from our recent tour in Mexico,
Speaker 1: most notably the Anthropology Museum and one of the figures
Speaker 1: there that I called I Robot or the Robot. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the figure is in a suit of armor,
Speaker 1: but whatever the hell he's wearing on his head is
Speaker 1: not of any design that I've ever seen before. And
Speaker 1: I've commented about him over the years and made the
Speaker 1: comment and made the suggestion that if this piece, the sculpture,
Speaker 1: was in any American or European museum, it wouldn't see
Speaker 1: the light of day, And simply put, it's because it's
Speaker 1: so odd and brings up so many questions, and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed to be seen. And that's what makes
Speaker 1: it so unique. I was looking at it and I'm
Speaker 1: going to post a video that I took with some
Speaker 1: of the details. But what makes this unique figure fabulous
Speaker 1: as a number of observable reasons. The first one is
Speaker 1: he is strapped in to some kind of apparatus. There
Speaker 1: is a full belly strap that goes from side to side,
Speaker 1: that locks him in to some vehicle, to some apparatus.
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, I mentioned the suit of
Speaker 1: armor that when you look at it under different light patterns,
Speaker 1: different colored spectrums, which I did with D stretch. Remember
Speaker 1: D stretch. Doctor Harmon had created this tool for people
Speaker 1: that study petroglyphs, and he was looking at petroglyphs in
Speaker 1: Baja California, and he developed a series of light scans
Speaker 1: patterns that you could pass over a photograph to extract
Speaker 1: the original color. Well, I use this on this sculpture,
Speaker 1: and what happens is when you use the yellow spectrum
Speaker 1: and the reddish spectrum, it extracts details on the face
Speaker 1: how it was carved. What we're seeing and what you
Speaker 1: get an idea for is that this figure is wearing
Speaker 1: a protective helmet that looks like an old Robbie the
Speaker 1: robot sculpture head or robot head from the nineteen late
Speaker 1: n fifties early nineteen sixties. Now why do they do this?
Speaker 1: He is this figure is carved on a column that
Speaker 1: appears in Ushkin Took, Yucatan, which is a very ancient
Speaker 1: city estimated to be five hundred BC. Now that's a
Speaker 1: very conservative date. I'm of the belief, and I write
Speaker 1: about this in my book The Maya Controversy, that this
Speaker 1: is a very very early sculpture representing either a figure
Speaker 1: in a war outfit. He's in a battle outfit, or
Speaker 1: is a protective suit and he's writing some kind of technology.
Speaker 1: When you see the face, you will know exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It is so unique and there is
Speaker 1: nothing like it anywhere anywhere. We're looking at a phase
Speaker 1: of Maya history that is not talked about, not documented,
Speaker 1: because we don't know a great deal about it. These
Speaker 1: guys were so old that they were likely in this
Speaker 1: aerial bombardment that Hancock and Russell Randall, Carlson and many
Speaker 1: others describe as a devastating asteroid hit that basically wiped
Speaker 1: the planet clean of humanity except for small percentage. This
Speaker 1: sculpture is prior to that. It's the earlier epoch. What
Speaker 1: you see in these scans is fascinating. You see the
Speaker 1: details of the eyes, which are goggles. You see rudimentary nose.
Speaker 1: You see ear they look like ear must but they're
Speaker 1: more like ear. They look like ear covers, like a headset,
Speaker 1: but it's a suit. It's a helmet that this guy's wearing. Now,
Speaker 1: the other thing that really kind of gives it away
Speaker 1: is in his right hand, he's holding something and guiding.
Speaker 1: It's a star shaped apparatus that he's he's driving this
Speaker 1: thing with. Why they image this, why they immortalize this figure,
Speaker 1: is beyond me. But it must have been important in
Speaker 1: an earlier epoch of the Maya, and you got to
Speaker 1: see it. This technology, this D stretch scanning filters that
Speaker 1: is used for petroglyphs, extracts great detail. And see what
Speaker 1: you think, take a look at it. You can see
Speaker 1: it on Earth Ancients. Go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients.
Speaker 1: It's on either the international or the group page. And
Speaker 1: it's fun. And I tell you it's it's great to
Speaker 1: have that tool to use on sculptures. I'm going to
Speaker 1: start using it when I go to Europe to some
Speaker 1: of the classic museums, even the met you know, look
Speaker 1: at look at some of the and by the way,
Speaker 1: it's fifty bucks to download. Go to D stretch and
Speaker 1: download it on that page, put it on your iPhone,
Speaker 1: or you can take photographs and look at it on
Speaker 1: your lap on your desktop with more detail. It was
Speaker 1: great to have, and like I said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: continue to use it. Good tour, good group of people.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it the last couple of weeks. I
Speaker 1: love Mexico. I'd like to try to go there once
Speaker 1: a year. We have a brand new tour schedule coming
Speaker 1: up for twenty twenty five. Of course from Easter Island.
Speaker 1: We have and it's amazing to me. We're sold out
Speaker 1: of Easter Island, which is March fifteenth to the twenty third,
Speaker 1: but one person's schedule came up with a conflict, so
Speaker 1: we have one spot left. Can you believe it? Rap
Speaker 1: anewly with doctor Edwin Barnhardt is going to be a blast.
Speaker 1: If you have time and you want to join us,
Speaker 1: go to earthacients dot com forward slash Tours. Look at
Speaker 1: the banner, open it up and look at that itinerary.
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable and it's unbelievab because we're gonna be
Speaker 1: going with ed to a lot of the areas that
Speaker 1: he imaged and did some surveying with and found unusual
Speaker 1: building foundations and a lot of other things that he'll
Speaker 1: just explain to us on the tour. So one spot.
Speaker 1: If you want more details, email me at Earth Ancients
Speaker 1: for you at Gmail, Earth Ancients to the number four
Speaker 1: of the letter you at at gmail dot com and
Speaker 1: go Cliff. I want to know more, Tell me more.
Speaker 1: I want to be that last person jump on board.
Speaker 1: I've already uh, I've sent it out to three people
Speaker 1: so far, and no one's pulled the trigger and put
Speaker 1: their deposit down yet. So it's a it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's March. It's got you're gone for a week. But
Speaker 1: what a treat to go with somebody who knows this
Speaker 1: area intimately and can give us a tour of a lifetime,
Speaker 1: just you know, just amazing. So again, Earth Ancients dot com,
Speaker 1: forward slash tours or email me at earth Ancients the
Speaker 1: number four of the letter you at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Go Cliff, tell me more? Will you please tell me more?
Speaker 1: All right? Today, my guest is Barbara Hanclow. Barbara and
Speaker 1: I go back thirty years. She was the publisher of
Speaker 1: Barron Company, which now has morphed into Inner Traditions, one
Speaker 1: of the largest metaphysical, spiritual personal growth publishers in the world,
Speaker 1: based in Vermont, United States. But Barbara is also a
Speaker 1: prolific author, and she is releasing a book that she
Speaker 1: wrote twenty years ago called Alchemy of the Nine Dimensions.
Speaker 1: This is an important book because it gets into various openings,
Speaker 1: various changes in our Earth's frequency. I think she calls them.
Speaker 1: Actually they're called activations, is what the word is. But
Speaker 1: what makes us a fun interview is not only connecting
Speaker 1: with Barbara, but she is part Indigenous and also an astrologer,
Speaker 1: and so she can bring forth the energetics behind changes
Speaker 1: in our perception upcoming changes in Earth's environment, not only
Speaker 1: geologically but also energetically, some of the new discoveries that
Speaker 1: have been made archaeologically, which is always fun to talk
Speaker 1: about because we do crossover into earth ancients quite a bit.
Speaker 1: We're talking destiny today and the various dimensions. Now there's
Speaker 1: nine dimensions according to the Pladaeons. If you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with the Pliades, it's been thought that by this is
Speaker 1: by indigenous cultures of the Earth. The Pleiads were very
Speaker 1: much like humans in physical appearance, and tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of years ago they likely populated planet Earth and left
Speaker 1: us with some and we and we inherited a lot
Speaker 1: of the attributes of that people. The thing that makes
Speaker 1: this book interesting. And the full title again is alchemy
Speaker 1: of the Nine Dimensions, activating the full spectrum of consciousness,
Speaker 1: as to the subtitle. But what makes this important is
Speaker 1: the fact that we are inheriting this, We are blessed
Speaker 1: to have this ancestry. And you know, it's funny because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of hints that various goddesses of
Speaker 1: the Egyptian culture and the Mayan culture, most notably Satya,
Speaker 1: and we talk about Satya off and on. But these
Speaker 1: temples that they made for these gods and goddesses are
Speaker 1: actually their actual human beings or hominins that had lived
Speaker 1: on Earth thousands of years ago and were demi gods.
Speaker 1: You know, they were like we talk about as the
Speaker 1: Yuga cycles, the Triata Yuga, where we as Homo sapiens
Speaker 1: of the earth had godlike powers. We could see when
Speaker 1: we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Nine
Speaker 1: Dimensions is all about is using these powers and seeing
Speaker 1: and so by activating them. And this is what Barbara
Speaker 1: is going to talk about today. We go through different cycles,
Speaker 1: and we go through various evolutionary periods, and we're going
Speaker 1: through another one, and we're continually going through another one
Speaker 1: coming out of one, going to another, third dimension, fourth dimension,
Speaker 1: fifth dimission, all the way to the ninth dimension. So
Speaker 1: we'll learn what that means today. So today's program is
Speaker 1: Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, and my guest is Barbara hand Klow.
Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to Barbara hank Klow. I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Barbara. It's been a few years now.
Speaker 1: Barbara and I go back over thirty years in the
Speaker 1: days when I was a program director for the Whole
Speaker 1: Life Expo. I'm always talking about Whole Life Expo because
Speaker 1: it was a phenomenon that included a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: vers and shakers. Tim Larry was one of them, Terence McKenna,
Speaker 1: just a whole plethora of people that are remembered now
Speaker 1: dearly departed, but they have left their impression. But I
Speaker 1: gotta say, Barbara Handcloud on her own former publisher Bearing Company,
Speaker 1: is a presence in her own right. If you don't
Speaker 1: know who Barbara is, she is a astrologer, an author,
Speaker 1: a ceremonial leader. If you listen to her name, Barbara Hancloud,
Speaker 1: she's part Indigenous tribal person and it's always fun to
Speaker 1: have her. She's got a twentieth edition in this new
Speaker 1: book called Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, Activating the Five Spectrums
Speaker 1: of Consciousness, And we're going to talk about this new
Speaker 1: update and she's got some new portions of this book
Speaker 1: that are really really exciting. So hey, Barbara, welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 1: Great to see you, clos.
Speaker 2: It's great to see you again.
Speaker 1: Long time it's been. I think it's been three or
Speaker 1: four years since we had you on last And I
Speaker 1: don't remember what book it is. You seem to spit
Speaker 1: out a book every three years. It's you're inspired or
Speaker 1: you have a transmission. One thing I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about. You mentioned this quite regularly in the first
Speaker 1: part of this updated new book, the twentieth edition of Tintinidis,
Speaker 1: which is ringing in the ears I have it going
Speaker 1: on right now. Do you think that this is something
Speaker 1: where a frequency is trying to get into our brains
Speaker 1: for those because there's a lot of people that have tenonitis.
Speaker 1: Would you say tonightis is tonightis? I said ten andights
Speaker 1: which is a muscle problem, the ringing of the years.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a frequency perhaps that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are not adjusting to and so they're getting
Speaker 1: the ringing or what would you say would be the causation.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think that people should always get a
Speaker 2: hearing test and talk to it, talk to it audiologists,
Speaker 2: because sometimes it's just some kind of aging deterioration or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I think in many cases it is frequencies coming
Speaker 2: in from other dimensions, particularly in my case, because you
Speaker 2: recall you recall let's see the Pleiadian Agenda and New
Speaker 2: Toxology for the Age of Light. Yeah, because I came
Speaker 2: and did a lecture at one of the Whole Life
Speaker 2: expos on the Pleading Agenda, and the energy was so
Speaker 2: powerful that a blue power out for a while is
Speaker 2: really kind of ras You may remember that it knocked
Speaker 2: it out for four or five hours, but at any rate,
Speaker 2: when the Pleading Agenda came to me back at the
Speaker 2: end of nineteen ninety four into early nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 2: what happened was, it was before the tonight has started,
Speaker 2: I saw a hologram of light. It was like out
Speaker 2: kind of a in front of my third eye, and
Speaker 2: the hologram of light was there for about four or
Speaker 2: five hours. I was just paralyzed in my seat because
Speaker 2: what was happening was just light force was downloading a
Speaker 2: data bank into my brain. It was really exactly like
Speaker 2: when your computer downloads a data bank or a disc.
Speaker 2: So I once it was over with and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: I hope that's the end of that. I just kind
Speaker 2: of went along my marrid way like I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, I started getting tonics and that's when
Speaker 2: I realized that a data bank had been downloaded and
Speaker 2: that I need to figure out a way to communicate it.
Speaker 2: And so I did figure that out, and that's where
Speaker 2: the pat and agenda came from. And then this book,
Speaker 2: the one that I'm here to discuss with you today,
Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. I wrote
Speaker 2: this nine years after the Pleadian Agenda came in, and
Speaker 2: after Jerry and I had been teaching it for nine
Speaker 2: years because we learned so much in workshops with our students,
Speaker 2: because lots of scientists came and lots of really right
Speaker 2: people came to the workshops. We learned so much from
Speaker 2: them that I decided it was time to do a
Speaker 2: scientific analysis of a channel book. So the Fleadian Agenda's channels,
Speaker 2: and then this book is a more of a left
Speaker 2: brain analytics, study of dimensionality.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit, Barbara about the connection between the
Speaker 1: PLDs and Earth. I want to get into specifics in
Speaker 1: a minute, but overall, on a historic level, the indigenous
Speaker 1: people of Earth have known about this connection, maybe not
Speaker 1: only from the visitors from the PLDs actual ets, but
Speaker 1: energetics that is bathing the Earth. Talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, first of all, I'm part Cherokee, and so
Speaker 2: as a child, I was taught that I was from
Speaker 2: the Pleiades. And that's just simply what I always understood
Speaker 2: and I still do. And so then I discovered over
Speaker 2: many years of living that lots and lots of indigenous
Speaker 2: people resonate very very deeply with the Fleiades. And then
Speaker 2: as I studied it more, particularly with anthropologists, I started
Speaker 2: to realize that there's evidence all over this planet for
Speaker 2: people being connected to an influenced by the star system,
Speaker 2: the Fliades star system, going back forty to fifty thousand years,
Speaker 2: and we find it in mythology, It's in Greek mythology.
Speaker 2: And so Cliff, what I would say is, after you know,
Speaker 2: all these years of teaching and all these years of experience,
Speaker 2: I've come to the conclusion that the Fleiodes were really
Speaker 2: probably an existing culture on our planet for the last
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand years. Now, the last one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: years is the high point of the Paleolithic era, which
Speaker 2: is the era of painting. You know, cave paintings that
Speaker 2: we found on the walls, and you know, the ancient culture.
Speaker 2: But I've begun to realize that it isn't just about
Speaker 2: people landing from the fleety somehow, it's a deeper connection
Speaker 2: that it's like a fundamental part of the culture of Earth.
Speaker 1: Give us a sense of this writing, because in twenty
Speaker 1: eleven you revise the book. What changed in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: and then I want you to tell us from there
Speaker 1: what you have observed and picked up for this new edition.
Speaker 2: Okay, so in twenty eleven, twenty ten, actually I did
Speaker 2: the first revision of the original Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.
Speaker 2: The reason I did it was that I realized I
Speaker 2: did not have the fourth dimension correct. And this was
Speaker 2: a really big deal because the fourth dimension is the
Speaker 2: dimension of the collective mind, the collective unconscious, and it's
Speaker 2: the dimension just beyond our dimension. Our dimension is the
Speaker 2: third dimension. And in the fourth dimension, what happens is
Speaker 2: we have an emotional connection to the cosmos, and in
Speaker 2: the fourth dimension, in the lower stages of it, things
Speaker 2: tend to dualize into darken light, good and evil, bad
Speaker 2: and good, just all kinds of dualities, and that as
Speaker 2: we get higher into the fourth dimension, we start to
Speaker 2: learn how to polarize some of these dilemmas, which means
Speaker 2: that we start to widen our scope on an issue
Speaker 2: and then bring it to center and develop the ability
Speaker 2: to see it from both sides. So this would be,
Speaker 2: for example, a person who could understand what's going on
Speaker 2: in the Middle East at this moment in time, and
Speaker 2: that also has some pretty found profound disagreements or agreements.
Speaker 2: That's a good example of a duality or a polarity.
Speaker 2: But I was really worried because I didn't have it right.
Speaker 2: I didn't have the see what that dimension deals with
Speaker 2: is like the global elite, the global controllers, the high masons.
Speaker 2: It deals with all of the forces on our planets
Speaker 2: that are attempting to control us. And I had to
Speaker 2: really nail what is this dimension, where is it coming from,
Speaker 2: and what does it mean? And so that's when I
Speaker 2: had to deal with things that I didn't understand until
Speaker 2: I revised the book, such as the influence of Zacharai
Speaker 2: Sitchen and all of his books, The Twelve Planet and
Speaker 2: all that, because Zacharai Sitchen had a lot of things
Speaker 2: to say that are really absolutely correct regarding Sumerian culture.
Speaker 2: But what we need to understand is that this issue
Speaker 2: of this fourth dimensional force goes back to the Sumerians
Speaker 2: and before then that even probably and I think that
Speaker 2: the issue actually goes back to the time after the
Speaker 2: big cataclysm. So what happened on our planet historically was
Speaker 2: around twelve thousand years ago, we suffered a series of
Speaker 2: monumental cataclysmic events and those events turned us into a fearful,
Speaker 2: multi traumatized species. And that once the cataclysms were gone
Speaker 2: and the planet was starting to get itself back together,
Speaker 2: we had thousands of years of survivalism. And this data
Speaker 2: bank on the fourth dimension and the Sumerian culture and
Speaker 2: then the Hebrew culture, then the Christian culture, this whole
Speaker 2: data bank goes back to that period of survivalism. And
Speaker 2: this is something that we've got to understand at this
Speaker 2: moment in time, because there's two reasons. By using the
Speaker 2: precession of the equinoxis, which is something we can talk
Speaker 2: about in a minute. We're at the halfway point after
Speaker 2: that cataclysm twelve thousand years ago. In other words, the
Speaker 2: precessional cycle is twenty four, twenty five, twenty six thousand
Speaker 2: years long, and we walk from to the opposite point
Speaker 2: to those cataclysms. And in case there's somebody who didn't
Speaker 2: notice that we're in the middle of a cataclysmic cycle
Speaker 2: at this moment in time. But what the Pleiadians have
Speaker 2: to say about that one is really significant that the
Speaker 2: Cleadiums say the cycle twelve thousand years ago was geological
Speaker 2: and cataclysmic, and it was a physical cataclysm, but what
Speaker 2: we're actually undergoing at this time, more importantly, is an
Speaker 2: emotional cataclysm. So then somebody will say, oh great, no
Speaker 2: rifquakes don't fly, well, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 2: of that stuff going on, because when we come to
Speaker 2: this point in the cycle, which by the way, is
Speaker 2: also the end of the coliug in Indian teaching. So
Speaker 2: when we get to this point, there are a lot
Speaker 2: of Earth's disturbances and earth cyclical disasters.
Speaker 1: But what the.
Speaker 2: Pleiadeans say is they say that we humans that they
Speaker 2: say that emotions are harder to deal with in physical cataclysms,
Speaker 2: and I've noticed that myself, and so at any rate,
Speaker 2: what's important to identify is we are moving beyond being
Speaker 2: a multi traumatized species, and in my understanding of things,
Speaker 2: the only way that we can get there is to
Speaker 2: open up nine dimensions of consciousness within our being, and
Speaker 2: we're right in the middle of that right now. We're
Speaker 2: start a lot of people are starting to really move
Speaker 2: more into the fifth dimension, are starting to move beyond
Speaker 2: the duality and beyond the conflict over darkness and light,
Speaker 2: and they're starting to move into opening the heart. So
Speaker 2: this is a really wonderful period in time from that
Speaker 2: point of view. But many, many, many people on this
Speaker 2: planet are very undeveloped at this time, and so they're
Speaker 2: in the middle of a deep kind of core, a fearful,
Speaker 2: multi traumatized species of awakening. So I never want to
Speaker 2: sound like this is going to be easy, because it's
Speaker 2: not going to be easy. But I've been a teacher
Speaker 2: for fifty years now and I have seen such amazing
Speaker 2: growth and development in people, and particularly Cliff in relationship
Speaker 2: to this book, what's happening with this book is people
Speaker 2: under forty fifty years old seem to really be able
Speaker 2: to understand this new edition of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions,
Speaker 2: because what's happening is when you go down in age,
Speaker 2: more people are more open, and so in that sense,
Speaker 2: this time has come to this book to return in
Speaker 2: this beautiful form. The publishers did such a good.
Speaker 1: Job talk about the scientific level of frequency or energy
Speaker 1: that is bathing the earth and how do we Maybe
Speaker 1: we can't detect it with instruments, but the way you
Speaker 1: describe it in this book and others have described it too,
Speaker 1: when we are obeyed with this energy, it triggers something
Speaker 1: on a cellular level that helps us evolve. And it's
Speaker 1: hard to explain it other than metaphysically, but if you
Speaker 1: have some other techniques or some other language, I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear it.
Speaker 2: Well. When our channel to eating in is gender, which
Speaker 2: is the data bank that's in this book from the Fleadies.
Speaker 2: I brought it in November nineteen ninety four through mar
Speaker 2: Shape for nineteen ninety five, and that was the exact
Speaker 2: same timeframe when Edward Whitney brought in superstring theory. And
Speaker 2: even isn't that amazing? Yeah, yeah, I noticed that of
Speaker 2: course early on.
Speaker 1: Did you just kind of figure out that his book
Speaker 1: was released at that same time or what?
Speaker 2: Well, the way a physicist brings in a theory like
Speaker 2: superstring theory, they do the mathematical calculations called gauge theory.
Speaker 2: And when a physicist or a mathematician decides to prove
Speaker 2: a theorem, you know, you could take a room like
Speaker 2: the room that you're in right now, and imagine all
Speaker 2: four walls have what do you call it we used
Speaker 2: to have in school, the chalkboards, you know, whatever those
Speaker 2: things are. It's all let's magic. Sell Chuck quotes on
Speaker 2: all four walls. And if you look at the physicist
Speaker 2: proof of a particular issue, it could be twenty lines
Speaker 2: up and down and you know, all the way across
Speaker 2: the room. It's very complicated to prove something by means
Speaker 2: of mathematical physics. And so Edward Whitten wrote down the
Speaker 2: calculations for string theory during those five or six months.
Speaker 2: And then I took note of that and I thought, wow,
Speaker 2: that really probably really means something. But the next thing
Speaker 2: that happened, in a way is even more astonishing. I
Speaker 2: was working at Baring Company doing acquisitions At the time,
Speaker 2: I had already handed in my manuscript for the preat
Speaker 2: and Agenda, so it was in editorial. I got four submissions.
Speaker 2: Now I used to get about ten thousand submissions a
Speaker 2: year because very very big, heavy load. I got four
Speaker 2: different submissions for exactly the same data bank. Now you've
Speaker 2: looked into this book, and you know how complicated this is.
Speaker 2: This is not New Age love and life. This complicated.
Speaker 2: And so one thing I that made me feel kind
Speaker 2: of bad was a pretty finished manuscript, and it was
Speaker 2: pretty good. But mine was already in and it was
Speaker 2: already getting ready to go.
Speaker 1: I suggesting Barra that the information was coming through and
Speaker 1: everybody different people were picking it up and creating books,
Speaker 1: and it was all kind of on the same theme.
Speaker 2: At least four other people wow the same databank, when ever,
Speaker 2: Witten was writing superstring theory, and when I brought mine in.
Speaker 2: And then if you think of all of the publishers
Speaker 2: out there, how many queries must have must have come
Speaker 2: in on this material. And having been an acquisition's editor,
Speaker 2: I've seen this before. It's one of the most important
Speaker 2: parts of our job is to really figure out, like
Speaker 2: who's the person who really got this information first and
Speaker 2: created a fairly good description of it, if you see
Speaker 2: what I mean. So when that happened, that happened in
Speaker 2: the fall of nineteen ninety five, I went, there's something
Speaker 2: really going on here. But the most important thing about
Speaker 2: this is that because of that, I was sure that
Speaker 2: this data bank must be the same as superstring theory.
Speaker 2: And so in Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, I have a
Speaker 2: comparison of some of the different superstring theorists and what
Speaker 2: they had to say have to say. But if you
Speaker 2: think about a cliff, if you go back, well, what
Speaker 2: is it forty years now? If you go back to
Speaker 2: when superstring theory got it came in those of us
Speaker 2: working in New Age consciousness, A lot of people got
Speaker 2: very excited because we could see that this was an
Speaker 2: advancement in physics. It's only one problem with superstring theory.
Speaker 2: If superstring theory were to be the model for physics
Speaker 2: occurrent physics of our times, we would have a multidimensional physics.
Speaker 2: And the control of people, the high Masonic people and
Speaker 2: the people in the military, industrial conflicts, etc. They don't
Speaker 2: want us to become multi dimensional because when we're multi dimensional,
Speaker 2: were free. So super string theory went just you know,
Speaker 2: I kept waiting, when are we going to hear when
Speaker 2: are we going to start getting all this exciting information
Speaker 2: about the meaning of all this multi dimensional potential? And
Speaker 2: you notice it just disappeared. It's called it's called the
Speaker 2: Great Stone Wall.
Speaker 1: I love what you're describing, though, Barbara, because you have
Speaker 1: this string theory, which is extremely scientifically complicated, talks about
Speaker 1: you know, dimensions, stuff like that, and then it's downloaded
Speaker 1: to creatives like you and these others that you discovered
Speaker 1: as an acquisition editor to be more palatable to the
Speaker 1: mainstream who doesn't necessarily have a scientific background, and perhaps
Speaker 1: it came through obviously that book was very well received,
Speaker 1: that book when it first came out, your book, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to me, but what does that mean?
Speaker 2: You know, people sense there was something truthful in it,
Speaker 2: like the Pleiadi and agenda, because it's a channel book
Speaker 2: and the speaker is Sacha, who's a goddess from the Pleiades.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about her in a minute, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, she's very as far as like Lisa,
Speaker 2: she's basically a rude person. But people really resonated with it,
Speaker 2: resonated with material, and I find in my lifetime when
Speaker 2: that happens, that's because it's true.
Speaker 1: I think of almost like Carlos aguilas book. Uh the
Speaker 1: I can't think of what the theme was where there
Speaker 1: was a shift in consciousness. What was the hell? What
Speaker 1: was his thing? Carlos Aguilas he had a shift in
Speaker 1: a time period where where everyone needed to understand that
Speaker 1: they were not simply physical, but that they were they
Speaker 1: were a spiritual light being and that they needed to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that. And he came around in the late eighties
Speaker 1: and nineteen eighties. And then here's your book shifting. Uh
Speaker 1: so this is all very very important. Harmonic convergence was.
Speaker 2: What you thought you're thinking of, Jose Eric Willams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I say, Carlo.
Speaker 2: A harmonic convergence Jose and Barlos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say Carlos. I misplayed and pronounced his first name.
Speaker 1: I said Carlos. But this that was a very big
Speaker 1: frequency change that even though people who didn't have a
Speaker 1: belief in it, knew that there was something happening and
Speaker 1: they connected with it unconsciously. And then this is a
Speaker 1: big activation going on when you.
Speaker 2: Say, well, and then again the media made a joke
Speaker 2: out of it. The media satirize it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you ever used to read Dounsbery by Gary Trudeau,
Speaker 2: but there's character on Doonesbury named Bootsie and is modeled
Speaker 2: after me. Okay, so Gary was an old Gary was
Speaker 2: an old friend of ours for many many years. And
Speaker 2: so Gary had met Boopsie flying over toot walk On
Speaker 2: during Harmonic convergence, which in fact I was. I went
Speaker 2: to a Harmonic convergence with one of my sons and
Speaker 2: with Jerry.
Speaker 1: T walk On in Mexico. Oh yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 2: We led ceremonies and there were one hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: with and you want to know what you're in the media,
Speaker 2: Oh gee, was far Around five thousand people showed up
Speaker 2: a teo t walk On. Not true. I was there
Speaker 2: and it was just a mob scene. And maybe more importantly,
Speaker 2: because I still worked with my elders, people returned every
Speaker 2: year at the at that point, every anniversary for that,
Speaker 2: because that's a big celebration.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: shortly with my guests. Today. Barbara han Klow discussing her
Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary reissuing of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back. My guest today is author Barbara hank Klow,
Speaker 1: who has re released with a lot of updates and
Speaker 1: information added to it a book she wrote twenty years
Speaker 1: ago called Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, and this is the
Speaker 1: Pladean activation that she has been teaching for many many years,
Speaker 1: over twenty years. And this is details on how to
Speaker 1: use this energy, why it's important, and it's how it
Speaker 1: is an evolutionary period for those of us who live
Speaker 1: on the Earth.
Speaker 2: Go back to the kind of question you started out with,
Speaker 2: which is what actually is a dimension? And like how
Speaker 2: do we pick up on it? How do we get
Speaker 2: in touch with it? Well, if you get into superstring theory,
Speaker 2: you get into all kinds of models for nine to
Speaker 2: eleven dimensions our universe in our cosmos, and each one
Speaker 2: of them has different qualities. But then because it was
Speaker 2: shut down in terms of being made available to the public,
Speaker 2: then what happened is this model of this dimensional, these
Speaker 2: dimensional levels started coming out through through people such as myself.
Speaker 2: And so with the twenty ten edition, back to that
Speaker 2: revision that one had that one had to do with
Speaker 2: getting the fourth dimension absolutely correct, because the book, the
Speaker 2: book is dysfunctional if it's not correct and had to
Speaker 2: be fixed. So in this edition, what I've been able
Speaker 2: to do is I've been able to really present some
Speaker 2: current science regarding multi dimensional discoveries, in particular the Blue
Speaker 2: Brain Project. Yeah, yeah, the Bluebreen Project is a project
Speaker 2: that's going on in Switzerland with a group of scientists
Speaker 2: who were called topologists. And topologists topology is the mathematics
Speaker 2: of the fifth dimension, according to the Pleadians. And by
Speaker 2: the way, they said that way back in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: That's even in the early edition of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.
Speaker 2: But now what's happened is the topologists And who are
Speaker 2: the topologists. Well, they are scientists who discover the mathematical
Speaker 2: characteristics of curved surfaces such as parabolos and spheres and labyrinths,
Speaker 2: all of those things. And that particular science topology is
Speaker 2: behind a lot of the technology that people have these days,
Speaker 2: such as cell phones and pads, iPads and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So it's a very advanced level of
Speaker 2: mathematics that's creating a lot of technology. Well, I think
Speaker 2: it's about time for people to see what's really going
Speaker 2: on with this, which is what I've published in this
Speaker 2: new edition the Blue Brain Project. Topologists created mathematical systems
Speaker 2: for creating diagrams and maps of the fields in the
Speaker 2: human writing and the fields in the human brain break
Speaker 2: down into nine to eleven fields of topological images, and
Speaker 2: they're very beautiful, by the way, and the higher dimensions
Speaker 2: are more complex, and the early you know, the lower
Speaker 2: dimensions first dimentia, second dimension dimensions in our brains are
Speaker 2: very relatively simple. So in other words, Clip, what has
Speaker 2: happened with this material coming through alchemy of nine dimensions
Speaker 2: is it's gone out of hypothesis and into theory. We
Speaker 2: now know that the human brain functions according to superstring
Speaker 2: theory and its functions according to to the alchemy of
Speaker 2: the nine to mention. And this is critically important because
Speaker 2: here everybody is, especially the younger generation, just having a
Speaker 2: madly wonderful engagement with various technologies and various technological devices.
Speaker 2: I think everybody needs to become conscious of what this is,
Speaker 2: how this is affecting our brains. Like, for example, we
Speaker 2: all know that people get just really hooked and addicted
Speaker 2: and you just can't get away from it and they
Speaker 2: have to do it for hours and hours. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think all this technology is creating a great, big,
Speaker 2: explosive opening of the human brain. And I think it's
Speaker 2: so funny because no matter how hard they try to
Speaker 2: stop us, they're not going to stop us.
Speaker 1: Wait. Wait, you think it's a good thing that we
Speaker 1: have all this tech? Like we're we can't get off TikTok.
Speaker 1: We can't get off our iPhones? Talk about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't even have a cell phone, so I
Speaker 2: know you mentioned that. Yeah, I know it makes I'll
Speaker 2: tell you it makes life difficult for me and for us,
Speaker 2: but I just can't. You've got to be really careful
Speaker 2: that you're conscious of what you're doing, because nothing is
Speaker 2: bad for you. It's how you use it, and it's
Speaker 2: what you make out of it, you know. And I
Speaker 2: think that I see many many signs that people are
Speaker 2: waking up fast to this. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 2: fortunately schools are keeping this technology out of the hands
Speaker 2: of students because they're there study in school. So I think,
Speaker 2: considering how fast it's is coming on, I don't really
Speaker 2: think it's necessarily ultimately negative, but every one of us
Speaker 2: has to be impeccable and you know, con sensitive about
Speaker 2: what we're doing and how we're using things.
Speaker 1: Right, I want you to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: a new portion of this book that is highlighting archaeological discoveries.
Speaker 1: You say that archaeologists have detected contact between the Pleads
Speaker 1: and Earth forty thousand years ago. What's the evidence of that.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got a wonderful stone age on archaeologist. His
Speaker 2: name is Richard Rudgley. He's an English guy, and he's
Speaker 2: published a couple of books, really good books on the
Speaker 2: Paleolithic era. And he's the one who has established that
Speaker 2: some of the drawings on the cave waults are either
Speaker 2: symbols for the Pleiades or actual diagrams of the star system.
Speaker 2: And then jury and I've gone all over the planet.
Speaker 2: We find drawings of the Pleades everywhere on ancient stone technology,
Speaker 2: just every world.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yeah, talk about the goddess Satya, because you brought
Speaker 1: up earlier. Was she involved in the dynastic Egyptians, the
Speaker 1: Mayans and others who recognized her? Was she a physical
Speaker 1: being or she more of an energetic that was named
Speaker 1: Satya and her influence after.
Speaker 2: That, well, see for me, Satcha is like a personality
Speaker 2: that came out of me when I channeled, and I
Speaker 2: find her to be basically arrogant and full of herself.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that? Why do you say that?
Speaker 2: I just that's how I'm not like her at all.
Speaker 2: I'm very polite and very sensitive to anybody in the
Speaker 2: room and their feelings and what they might think. And
Speaker 2: Sacha doesn't give it, damn what you think. She just
Speaker 2: blasts it out. But that's what it took to get
Speaker 2: this information to break through into our realm, as far
Speaker 2: as I can tell. Then, in the vating culture of
Speaker 2: the ancient Indian culture, Sacha is considered to be a
Speaker 2: goddess of wisdom, and so I think she I think
Speaker 2: she's full of herself, and I think she decided, well,
Speaker 2: my name is Satcha because she knew people would be
Speaker 2: impressed with that. That's what I think of her. I
Speaker 2: can't read pleating agenda almost because of her. But fortunately
Speaker 2: she's funny, saucy, and the information gets through to us.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people will read preating an agenda,
Speaker 2: but not Alchemy of nine Dimensions or vice versa.
Speaker 1: Are there temples to Satya that you're aware of.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but since she's such a wisdom goddess
Speaker 2: in India, there's got to be. I only went to India.
Speaker 2: I taught in India in twenty ten, and that's the
Speaker 2: only time I've been over there. And wow, what an overwhelming,
Speaker 2: wonderful place.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to go yet. I've had it. Well,
Speaker 1: talk about the new discoveries in Romania. You just you
Speaker 1: discuss tunnels and technology underground. I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, faced with this doing this revision, how
Speaker 2: can I make the most of it? That's always my so.
Speaker 2: First of all, in the twenty ten edition of Alchemy
Speaker 2: of Nine Dimensions, all of it was perfect. I mean,
Speaker 2: all the dimensional descriptions are perfect except for the Knights dimension,
Speaker 2: and the Knight's dimension is the dimension. Leadians say the
Speaker 2: knights dimension is the dimension of time, and they say
Speaker 2: that like the Keeper, the ruler of the ninth dimension
Speaker 2: is old Keen. Zold Keen is the Mayan twenty day
Speaker 2: signs in the Mayan day calendar. So back to my
Speaker 2: work at Bear and Company and as an indigenous teacher,
Speaker 2: I did research on the Mayan calendar and on the
Speaker 2: Mayan civilization for like forty years, and Bear published some
Speaker 2: of the early calendar researchers like Tony Shearer and Jose Arguays.
Speaker 2: You mentioned we were one of the key sources for
Speaker 2: all of these Mayan calendar questions, and so as I
Speaker 2: got up to twenty ten, twenty eleven, when I was
Speaker 2: revising Alchemby of nine Dimensions, again, I had published a
Speaker 2: book by Carl Johann Khalamon, who's a Mayan Swedish mind
Speaker 2: calendar researcher. And then because Kalamon's writing at the time
Speaker 2: was a little bit of Tucson the Calendar, I asked
Speaker 2: him if I could write a book about his theory,
Speaker 2: and he was thrilled with that, and so I wrote
Speaker 2: a book called the Mayan Code, and that came out
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. Yeah, so here we are
Speaker 2: now in twenty ten, and I had worked with Kalaman,
Speaker 2: worked with Arguays, etc. But twenty twelve and twenty eleven
Speaker 2: had still not happened yet, and all of us were
Speaker 2: starting to wait anxiously, you know, like again the media
Speaker 2: was saying, oh, it's the end of the world and
Speaker 2: the New Age has gone nuts again. And then in
Speaker 2: the Mayan Calendar movement, a big fight going on between
Speaker 2: the people supported colin On and the people supported Arguyas
Speaker 2: and the supported both of them published. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's really crazy because the New Age movement was actually
Speaker 2: looking pretty silly in twenty twelve. But then what happened
Speaker 2: after that, And this is what I was after when
Speaker 2: I revised the book the third time. After twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: things got to be really strange. Do you remember, it
Speaker 2: was like everything was people, things were distorted and people.
Speaker 1: Twenty twelve was nutspar right it left. I mean, twenty
Speaker 1: twelve was really weird, probably because they thought the world
Speaker 1: was going to fold and people were going to lose
Speaker 1: their minds and most and then of course the religions
Speaker 1: thought the world was coming to an end. It was weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it was weird. But then after that
Speaker 2: was over it. It's kind of like after this twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four election, then people had their hangover. Right, if
Speaker 2: we get into twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, people were just like,
Speaker 2: did anything happen? I don't know what happened. Well, all
Speaker 2: kinds of things happened, as a matter of fact, Like
Speaker 2: in the accelerator in Switzerland. The boson was discovered right
Speaker 2: at the end of twenty twelve, which again is another
Speaker 2: proof of superstring theory. But let's keep it quiet and
Speaker 2: let's not let the people find out about this stuff, right.
Speaker 2: So there I was you know what am I going
Speaker 2: to do?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So at that point I wrote, I decided, Okay, I
Speaker 2: can't handle the way people are acting. I'm going to
Speaker 2: find another way to create ways for people to discover multidimensionality.
Speaker 2: So I wrote a fictional trilogy with characters in Rome
Speaker 2: and in Tuscany and in the United States Eastern United States.
Speaker 2: I wrote a fictional trilogy called the Revelations Trilogy, and
Speaker 2: the first one is Revelations of Ruby Crystal. Then the
Speaker 2: second one is Revelations of the Querying Age that came
Speaker 2: out in twenty eighteen, and then the third one is
Speaker 2: Revelations from the Source, which came out in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: And in these three books, my characters were waking up
Speaker 2: and getting beyond the fourth dimensional darkened Light complex and
Speaker 2: they were starting to attune to other dimensions. And some
Speaker 2: of the characters in the book were really developed individual,
Speaker 2: brilliant individuals, great Italian astrology in this series who were
Speaker 2: helping people to understand multidimensionality. So basically I cut out
Speaker 2: of the left brain research field and everybody was waiting
Speaker 2: for me to tell them what happened in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Well, I didn't have any idea
Speaker 2: in myself, and I just switched into storytelling. And I'm
Speaker 2: so glad I did that because now people are enjoying
Speaker 2: reading novels about multidimensionality.
Speaker 1: I think it helps the learning phase of taking all
Speaker 1: this in real quickly. Barbara, how do we work with
Speaker 1: nine dimensions? If we are in the third and fourth
Speaker 1: dimension and I've had people on the program speaking on
Speaker 1: the fifth dimension, and I have to just say this,
Speaker 1: I think the fifth dimension situation is all over the
Speaker 1: place because just the interpretations are off the charts. I
Speaker 1: think you understand what I'm talking about. But as a
Speaker 1: physical being who is a spiritual yearning and connecting to
Speaker 1: various meditative processes, how do we move into this ninth
Speaker 1: level elegantly? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well boy, this is Bursatro. It's so pushing. She came
Speaker 2: through and by the way, the pleadiums transmit diagrams to me.
Speaker 2: They just say, get out a piece of paper and
Speaker 2: a pencil, copy about they've been doing that for years
Speaker 2: and that I explore that in chapter ten and eleven
Speaker 2: of Alchemy in Nine Dimensions, because crop circles work like that.
Speaker 1: Ahead.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what happened was Satscha transmitted this diagram through
Speaker 2: of like a healing table with the person lying on it,
Speaker 2: and that person is in the third emotion?
Speaker 1: Do you actually have a diagram of that in the book?
Speaker 1: You show that.
Speaker 2: The worst part of the cliff was she she transmitted
Speaker 2: it through to me and she said, Okay, when we're finished,
Speaker 2: go get that tattooed on your right hand, on the
Speaker 2: back of your right hand. And I went, oh, versus
Speaker 2: the pleaadians for anybody who deals with them, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people do. Actually, they're very pushy because they're
Speaker 2: so anxious for us to wake up, so they're always
Speaker 2: come up with all kinds of bids. I said, no tattoos.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing any tattoos. The diagrams in the book,
Speaker 2: and it's very powerful diagram because it's folks, how you
Speaker 2: in the third dimension, or me or anybody picks up
Speaker 2: energy in the third dimension from the Turmuric, and the
Speaker 2: Turmuric is the second dimension, which is the area between
Speaker 2: the crust of the Earth and the center. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: the center of the Earth is the iron core crystal,
Speaker 2: which vibrates in frequencies with all of the other centers
Speaker 2: in the universe, all the centers of the galaxies, the planets,
Speaker 2: the stars. We're all resonating with our crystal in our planet.
Speaker 2: Because see, everything resonates in everything is connected. So then
Speaker 2: above the person of theater and show like a canopy,
Speaker 2: like you know, like canopy over the person, because that's
Speaker 2: the fourth dimension. And so when we're in the third dimension,
Speaker 2: what's happening is the fourth dimension is affecting us intensely,
Speaker 2: and that's the collective consciousness, the unconscious aware, and it's
Speaker 2: the field of energy that connects us all. But that's
Speaker 2: why we have such a struggle with it. And so
Speaker 2: the goal of being a human is to be fully
Speaker 2: conscious in three D and to understand how three D works,
Speaker 2: And of course the book covers that and how to
Speaker 2: meditate the three D and all that, because you don't
Speaker 2: want to be overtaken by the fourth dimension. All you
Speaker 2: want to do is use the fourth dimension as a
Speaker 2: tool for contacting of all kinds of issues in the
Speaker 2: universe that you want to resolve. It's the area of
Speaker 2: our consciousness. And after I'll think about how you walk
Speaker 2: around all day and you know, okay, is not and
Speaker 2: the oal I'm going to start World War three? Or
Speaker 2: is Joe Biden to have started? You know, our heads
Speaker 2: are just filled with all this buzz that's coming from
Speaker 2: like the election and all that kind of stuff's commonly
Speaker 2: going to win? Is Trump going to win? And our
Speaker 2: job as humans is to stay round it and to
Speaker 2: say centered. And sometimes Jerry's you know, on these interviews
Speaker 2: because he's a cranial sacral therapist, because you want to
Speaker 2: stay right on that mid long you want to have
Speaker 2: to come right down through the center of your body.
Speaker 2: And so if you can resolve these conflicts, which is
Speaker 2: called which the Eastern meditators talk about, how our brains
Speaker 2: are just filled with garb each and noise, if you
Speaker 2: could resolve all that stuff going on in your head,
Speaker 2: then you break through into the fifth demons, which in
Speaker 2: my system is the opening of the heart.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's important. So that's five. And so these
Speaker 1: four additional those are those subtle dimensions that kind of
Speaker 1: fall into place once you reach the fifth.
Speaker 2: They're subtle, but boy, we can we use them. And
Speaker 2: I'll give you a good example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be interested if you could define the subtlety
Speaker 1: of them and what we should be looking for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So the energy is in our hearts, and
Speaker 2: then as our hearts expand to get bigger. And this
Speaker 2: is a tricky moment, no jury. And I talk thousands
Speaker 2: of students and all over the planet, because when you
Speaker 2: get to that point, if you don't move into the
Speaker 2: sixth dimension from the expansion of the heart, you can
Speaker 2: actually have a heart attack. And you've heard of people
Speaker 2: having Kundalini rising and have a park trouble, and that's
Speaker 2: because you haven't. The reason is you haven't been able
Speaker 2: to move into the next level of complexity, which is
Speaker 2: the sixth dimension. And the sixth dimensions is the dimension
Speaker 2: that sacred geometry is the dimension of the platonic solids.
Speaker 2: And like right here, I have an icosahedron that I'm
Speaker 2: wholly about because I use this. When I got that
Speaker 2: light thing from the creating agenda, it turns out that
Speaker 2: what was receiving it was an icosahedron. So I found
Speaker 2: one that and you notice the front of the book
Speaker 2: is all geometry. So what we do ideally is we
Speaker 2: expanded to the sixth dimension, and then what happens is
Speaker 2: we can discover our ideal form for every human on
Speaker 2: this planet. We have a six dimensional ideal form. It's
Speaker 2: like the forms in Plato's philosophy. And we can align
Speaker 2: with the sixth dimension by doing all kinds of special
Speaker 2: techniques like yoga or tai chi or contact with dance
Speaker 2: and movement and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Let me just stop here just for a second, because
Speaker 1: this hard thing is big on me. I had a
Speaker 1: heart tech two years ago and they put a stent in.
Speaker 1: They said, okay, you got a blockage. But I am
Speaker 1: more of the energetic side. Is there techniques in my
Speaker 1: meditation I should be looking at to bring in the
Speaker 1: sixth so that I don't have any more problems?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, clip. The second dimension and the sixth dimension
Speaker 2: are the key to our health because second dimension actually
Speaker 2: creates us. It's the realm of minerals and microbials and
Speaker 2: all kinds of intelligent of your potent energy forms the elementals.
Speaker 2: So we need to really resonate with the elementals by
Speaker 2: using alternative medicine.
Speaker 1: As far as I'm conservative, well, I'm totally into that.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, is there a technique that you highlight
Speaker 1: in the book where if you're in that transitional period
Speaker 1: from fifth to six and we don't want to have
Speaker 1: a heart attack, those who are dealing with sensitivities.
Speaker 2: That may not be why you had a heart attack,
Speaker 2: we sure wanted to make sure it wasn't happening. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you, I want your experiences and workshops. But for you,
Speaker 2: the more you study sacred geometry. And I highly recommend
Speaker 2: John Michelle's books in particular because she's kind of a
Speaker 2: master new view over Atlantis remember that all those years ago.
Speaker 2: John Michelle's work is wonderful. But the more you contemplate
Speaker 2: the sacred geometrical energy form that's creating you and holding
Speaker 2: you in form, the healthier you'll get. And you might
Speaker 2: be one of the first people to go down to
Speaker 2: the doctor and say, okay, you take the stem out
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 1: They don't do that. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm not advising that.
Speaker 1: The big The big thing is they want to they
Speaker 1: want and this is allopathy, which is just such problematic problem.
Speaker 1: They want to they want to just medicate you till
Speaker 1: you can't see straight.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, the medication is just.
Speaker 1: We're going to take another short commercial break to allow
Speaker 1: our sponsors to identify themselves, and we'll return shortly with
Speaker 1: my guest today, author Barbara hand Kloud, discussing her new
Speaker 1: book release of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. We'll rejoin you shortly.
Speaker 1: I'm joined today by author Barbara han Klow, who is
Speaker 1: reissuing a book she wrote twenty years ago called Alchemy
Speaker 1: of Nine Dimensions, in which she outlines the different frequencies
Speaker 1: that we are receiving from the Pleiades, a series of
Speaker 1: stars and planets and constellations light years away from us.
Speaker 1: But apparently, according to the indigenous traditions, these beings that
Speaker 1: live in this squadron of our universe have been very
Speaker 1: active in working with Earth's evolution. Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's get up to the ninth because I want my
Speaker 1: listeners to hear from you where they are going, what
Speaker 1: the feelings are, the sensations of the We're on sixth
Speaker 1: level now, seventh, eighth, and ninth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you go into the seventh dimension, it's
Speaker 2: the dimension of sound. And of course we've all known
Speaker 2: the Bible says that the divine comes to the Word
Speaker 2: of God comes to us through cosmic sound. All the
Speaker 2: spiritual traditions teach that these higher levels come from sound,
Speaker 2: and that the sound is pervasive throughout the universe. And
Speaker 2: so for you also, you may may want to check
Speaker 2: out on page two thirty eight if Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.
Speaker 2: We've got a page there that tells you how to
Speaker 2: download multi dimensional nine dimensional music into your computer, most
Speaker 2: importantly for free. So Bear has a website where you
Speaker 2: can go to it. You can download it for free.
Speaker 2: And this music was composed by Michael Stearns, the composer
Speaker 2: for the background of Battlestar Galactica and some of the
Speaker 2: love reason an ambient.
Speaker 1: Piece or is it actually a melodic piece that he's made.
Speaker 2: There's two. There's one that follows the nine dimensions exactly,
Speaker 2: and that's what's on the website. And then he took
Speaker 2: he said, okay, he was expensive, okay, and we only
Speaker 2: had so much wed so he's a movie composer, right,
Speaker 2: So so he said, look, he said, if you'll let
Speaker 2: me do my own composition out of what I create
Speaker 2: for you, we can cut it in half. And so
Speaker 2: he produced his own CD called Within, and that's available
Speaker 2: on his website.
Speaker 1: Did what did this? What did you requisition him to
Speaker 1: do this music?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: When did you have him compose this music? Eight? It
Speaker 1: was a while ago.
Speaker 2: All ago? Yeah, and it is incredible. He is the
Speaker 2: Beethoven of our times. Wow is he's a great great composure.
Speaker 2: But what we did was for then nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 2: up until last year, we kept selling CDs and we
Speaker 2: finally paid for it. And so so then Bear, we said, okay,
Speaker 2: how expensive that it? Yeah, that's a real.
Speaker 1: Real Quickly, while we're on that topic, Barbara, did you
Speaker 1: notice people writing in h and discussing the effects of
Speaker 1: this music on their consciousness?
Speaker 2: Remember we taught workshops for twenty years where what we
Speaker 2: would do is Friday night I would give the dimensional
Speaker 2: model and we give election, and then Saturday we would
Speaker 2: activate the nine dimensions by creating an indigenous type ceremony
Speaker 2: and then bringing all the dimensions in. And that's where,
Speaker 2: for example, we got up to the fifth dimension and
Speaker 2: everybody's expanding and expanding. Oh, they're ready to pop. And
Speaker 2: then we bring in the sixth dimension in order to
Speaker 2: complexify it. So that's that's just what we did. Then
Speaker 2: on Sunday we had a full circle where everybody shared
Speaker 2: what happened to them, So I have a lot of
Speaker 2: data on what happens for people. It's very powerful stuff.
Speaker 2: In fact, these teachings were so powerful that from the
Speaker 2: very beginning we had one healer working with students for
Speaker 2: every ten students. So like say you have a room
Speaker 2: of one hundred people, there'd be ten healers in the
Speaker 2: back of the chair in front of them. When everybody
Speaker 2: anybody's getting like over ant or feeling groggy and just
Speaker 2: getting out of third dimension. I'd sit up there and
Speaker 2: teach and then say hey, you go to the back.
Speaker 1: So they'd get it. What a reiki treatment or some
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 2: Just body energy type treatment. Yeah, it's the It's a
Speaker 2: technique they teach a Lilydale in New York that Jerry
Speaker 2: learned and anybody could do it. It's wonderful technique just
Speaker 2: getting somebody, Okay, you're on the version going out to
Speaker 2: what God knows where, Let's get back in here and
Speaker 2: let's balance it. And it is like breaking Yeah, working
Speaker 2: with energy.
Speaker 1: Right, let's let's continue on. We're at number seven. We
Speaker 1: want to give everybody a sense of the eight and
Speaker 1: nine too.
Speaker 2: So the eighth dimension is the realm of light, and
Speaker 2: this is where you get into the light being so
Speaker 2: intense that we here we read in the Bible that
Speaker 2: people can't get anywhere near it because it can blind them.
Speaker 2: And the light is the manifestation of the divine or
Speaker 2: God consciousness or God whatever. It doesn't really matter how
Speaker 2: anybody defines this. The fact is that the eighth dimension
Speaker 2: is to that holds us in contact with divine consciousness.
Speaker 2: And when we're in effective conscious divine consciousness, we tend
Speaker 2: to be very ethical. We tend to be worried loving,
Speaker 2: We tend to be worried giving. This is like moving
Speaker 2: the human into being a moral, ethical, significant giving person
Speaker 2: versus dog down at the local table. And so the eighths.
Speaker 2: But the what the eighth dimension is so interesting to
Speaker 2: me because the eighth dimension is a download location for
Speaker 2: the ninths dimension, which is time and what's going on
Speaker 2: in the night dimension. And this is what I didn't
Speaker 2: understand until I completely revised this edition in terms of
Speaker 2: getting the Knight's dimension right, that the Cosmos is constantly
Speaker 2: downloading like like teachings and programs for people to work with,
Speaker 2: into the light, and then the light transmutes into sound,
Speaker 2: and the energy that affects us as humans starts to
Speaker 2: become palpable as the sound creates geometry and then creates
Speaker 2: the open heart. So you can go either way. One
Speaker 2: of the things we do in teaching these techniques is
Speaker 2: you can go up and you can come back down.
Speaker 2: You can be in the time zone and the Mayan calendar. Okay,
Speaker 2: the answer is what did happen in twenty eleven twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: And the person who actually nailed that was Carl Colmon
Speaker 2: because Carl, Yes, Carl's The reason I wrote a book
Speaker 2: about Carl is that he wrote developed a system based
Speaker 2: on the Mayan calendar that analyzes sixteen billion years of
Speaker 2: time in the universe and then it eventually moves into
Speaker 2: evolution because like, sixteen billion years ago, we didn't have
Speaker 2: any evolution on our planet. But then if we go
Speaker 2: back four billion years ago when the Earth started becoming
Speaker 2: an organic home, we start to see the cycles of evolution.
Speaker 2: So I felt that Carl's work was very important because
Speaker 2: the big mysterious question is how could the minds have
Speaker 2: known in five hundred BC that our reality was going
Speaker 2: to crash in twenty twelve? And what is that crash?
Speaker 2: And this is where Carl is so important. Carl said,
Speaker 2: in this system that Carl developed is based on the
Speaker 2: Coba stell, which is a stella in my land that
Speaker 2: goes back. It has sixteen billion years of data on it.
Speaker 2: In other words, kill the data from way before anybody
Speaker 2: was even around her, if you get my drift. But
Speaker 2: what Carl said was Carl said that we were going
Speaker 2: through time accelerations. And with these time accelerations and people
Speaker 2: are just going to have to look at the book
Speaker 2: because it's complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we don't true what he said.
Speaker 2: Because of his diagram, it was pretty easy to figure out.
Speaker 2: But I found teaching it was really easy and people
Speaker 2: understood it. But what Carl said was time acceleration ends
Speaker 2: October twenty eight, twenty eleven. That's what that big twenty
Speaker 2: eleven date is all about. And I think the other
Speaker 2: date of December twenty first, twenty twelve, is also just
Speaker 2: as important. But I did notice that something very strange
Speaker 2: was going on under twenty twelve. It was like suddenly
Speaker 2: it was like suddenly or am I in a dream
Speaker 2: or in the real world? It was a very very
Speaker 2: strange year. And then guess what happened in our family
Speaker 2: at the end the twenty twelve date December twenty first,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, the end of the mind calendar. Granddaughter was
Speaker 2: born when the sun was rising on December twenty first,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Wow, so our family, something really did happen.
Speaker 2: And I don't We'll see what that means over time.
Speaker 1: Did you finish with the ninth dimension? Are we there? Night?
Speaker 2: To mention is the Mayan calendar and the time codes,
Speaker 2: and then there's a tense to mention is a vertical
Speaker 2: axis the first dimension below you, going all the way
Speaker 2: through your body and all the way through the top
Speaker 2: of your head at times. And then there's an eleventh
Speaker 2: and a twelfth dimension. And fortunately somebody just came out
Speaker 2: with the book that takes us through twelve and so
Speaker 2: I could mention now shows the author is Joshua Reichmann.
Speaker 2: He's a Canadian teacher and his book is called The
Speaker 2: Realized Light of Twelve Dimension and that one just came out.
Speaker 2: So we're moving, you know, we're still do Let's just
Speaker 2: stop me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help my listener who are going nine dimensions?
Speaker 1: How the hell do I access them? I mean, obviously, well,
Speaker 1: well hang on. So the thing is we want people
Speaker 1: to buy the book, of course, but those who are
Speaker 1: are challenged, and I don't know. Did you do an
Speaker 1: audible version of the new book.
Speaker 2: Once coming out? I heard I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to have that because somebody I can't
Speaker 1: read it. It's too much to read.
Speaker 2: Some people really need that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I guess if you're physical and you
Speaker 1: acknowledge these dimensions, do you automatically on some level pass
Speaker 1: through them or do they become you? Or do you
Speaker 1: have to do work?
Speaker 2: You don't have to work. That's one of the things
Speaker 2: that I really believe in this. I'm a typical indigenous
Speaker 2: ceremonial people person. What gives people to tune in to
Speaker 2: different levels and different dimensions is to play on this planet.
Speaker 2: People do theater, people do plays, people do music. People
Speaker 2: create ceremonies that go through different levels, and of course,
Speaker 2: in our case, we created a ceremony that takes you
Speaker 2: through on nine to ten levels. That's what those workshops
Speaker 2: were all about. But the important thing Cliff is that
Speaker 2: what we've done is the diagrams for how to do
Speaker 2: this are in the book. Then on my website there's
Speaker 2: a seven or eight page file that tells you how
Speaker 2: to conduct an activation wonderful, Yeah, beginning to end. And
Speaker 2: lots of people have been doing this way back as
Speaker 2: far as two thousand and four. Over the years, people
Speaker 2: get four or five friends together and one person leads
Speaker 2: an activation, or people get group together.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: It is really fun and it's not good. Nobody's going
Speaker 2: to get That's why I wrote those novels, because people
Speaker 2: like to read fiction. It's novels to have sex and
Speaker 2: love affairs in them and all kinds of all those dimensions,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and so then that's also so. Now
Speaker 2: at this point, you have the music, you have the diagrams,
Speaker 2: you have the explanation. It's time people are going to say, oh,
Speaker 2: when's fire, We're going to come around and do another activation. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm maybe one years old and I've done that for
Speaker 2: twenty I can't. I can't do it anymore. I'm at
Speaker 2: a state, by the way, More importantly, I'm at a
Speaker 2: state of deed and deep conversation almost all day on
Speaker 2: I'm I'm working with meditations.
Speaker 1: What terms you use, not to say decomposition, you said
Speaker 1: something else. I'm in a state of.
Speaker 2: What of meditation? I'm very deep meditation with the dimensions,
Speaker 2: and Jerry and I may find some way to work
Speaker 2: with students. We think about that a lot right now,
Speaker 2: and then we have to move in a.
Speaker 1: Couple of months. Oh god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Right, I know, right in the middle of the heavy promo,
Speaker 2: we are I know, but.
Speaker 1: I feel for that. But I want you to comment
Speaker 1: real quickly as we come to the conclusion of our
Speaker 1: time together. I've had a number of Indian stages on
Speaker 1: the program, and also people who are experts where they
Speaker 1: claim to be experts on the Yugas. It looks like
Speaker 1: the previous epoch, the Treatia Yuga was a being homo
Speaker 1: sapien sapien that could see beyond the physical. And it
Speaker 1: seems to me that these nine dimensions were easily accessed
Speaker 1: or utilized, probably beyond the nine by these people who
Speaker 1: were demi gods. It's the closest thing I can think of.
Speaker 1: Do you see us coming? Is that what's going on
Speaker 1: right now is that we're entering, we're leaving this current
Speaker 1: Yuga cycle and moving into the more higher wisdom sites,
Speaker 1: which sites periods where we can, by thinking, pull in
Speaker 1: these energies and activate them.
Speaker 2: After teaching for fifty years, I've seen so many levels
Speaker 2: opening up that I'm obviously certain that we're right on
Speaker 2: the edge of a very big major awakening where suddenly
Speaker 2: people are just going to find these things are coming
Speaker 2: to them the way it did to me. And the
Speaker 2: reason I say that the business prologe. First of all,
Speaker 2: at this point, Pluto into Aquarius a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: and it'll be there until twenty forty four. So we're
Speaker 2: going to have twenty years now of Pluto Inaquarius opening
Speaker 2: the Aquarian age, and then this like in March, April
Speaker 2: and May of twenty twenty five, only a few months
Speaker 2: from now, we're going to have the planet Saturn, which
Speaker 2: rules structure and form and making things happen, is moving
Speaker 2: out of Pisces and into areas. And when Saturn is
Speaker 2: in Pisces, Saturn is very uncomfortable in Prices because Pisces
Speaker 2: just doesn't want to bother of getting all this stuff done.
Speaker 2: And so when Saturn moves into this area in cycle,
Speaker 2: this is another twenty nine year cycle of building a
Speaker 2: new structure and new form, and then more significantly, planet
Speaker 2: Neptune has been in Pisces. Now Neptune rules Pisces, so
Speaker 2: that means it's like same sign. It's been in Pisces
Speaker 2: since twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. And it's so
Speaker 2: interesting because at that point that's when everything became Nebula
Speaker 2: of Siege is known for creating just kind of inebulais, Oh, well,
Speaker 2: I don't really need to bother with this any just
Speaker 2: relax for a while. And so with those two planets, now,
Speaker 2: Saturn's only been in prices for two and a half years,
Speaker 2: but never June's been in Pi Seis since twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, and it goes into areas when basically when
Speaker 2: Saturn goes into areas, the exact conjunction of the two
Speaker 2: planets in areas is actually in twenty twenty six. But
Speaker 2: basically what's going to happen is anybody who thinks they're
Speaker 2: going to be able to just sit in their seat
Speaker 2: and be normal and make everything always be the way
Speaker 2: it was, forget it not gonna happen. We're going to
Speaker 2: be experienced with such a monumental level of change and
Speaker 2: action and movement, and judging by how things have been,
Speaker 2: especially for me the last ten to fifteen years, we've
Speaker 2: have changed. We just have to we have to move it.
Speaker 2: And then of course the ends and the ending of
Speaker 2: the Collie Yuga has been called by a Indian scholar
Speaker 2: and mystic. His name is bi Wu dev Misra, one
Speaker 2: of those Indian names, and his book just came out.
Speaker 2: This is all happening, just like Alchemy of nine Dimensions
Speaker 2: finally went to a level of perfection right now. Well,
Speaker 2: bi Wu, after years and years of resoot, Sir published
Speaker 2: The Yuga Shift.
Speaker 1: I had him on the show. It's a wonderful book.
Speaker 2: Oh you had him all cool?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what an amazing book show to me. I'll
Speaker 1: email you the the interview. Okay, I support him.
Speaker 2: Well, I just say I got it right away because
Speaker 2: it's you know, somebody told me.
Speaker 1: It's a master works, a master.
Speaker 2: Work, and it's it's hard to read it. It is
Speaker 2: because you're going to get a sense of what's really
Speaker 2: action going to be happening. But it's all going to
Speaker 2: be okay. The only thing that can happen is I
Speaker 2: might go out of body a big deal.
Speaker 1: Well, but the thing I'm curious about in the United States,
Speaker 1: the kids are running the machine. Now we have the
Speaker 1: children running the machine, and that's a big deal. Wasn't
Speaker 1: one body, all three bodies are now running the machine?
Speaker 1: And I for a while I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what you want, So we released to your whatever
Speaker 1: level judgment is going on.
Speaker 2: It's really easy because who wants Joe Biden to be
Speaker 2: running everything?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: And I'm so thrilled to see the younger generations coming
Speaker 2: into power, and that's been a big resistance, hasn't it.
Speaker 2: Just it was incredible to me to see all these
Speaker 2: old excuse me farts just continue o where they don't belong.
Speaker 1: I think it's fun in some ways, but and the
Speaker 1: other way. The Republicans are young souls and so they
Speaker 1: tend to bring a great possible abilities. But again, there
Speaker 1: we're going to be on a in a driving mode
Speaker 1: where it's it's a it's a student driver, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you know there's some scary days ahead.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing is that the United States is it
Speaker 2: has come to the end of a whole phuto cycle.
Speaker 2: A few years ago, our country himself is in the
Speaker 2: spotlight rock right now in terms of disintegrating and needing
Speaker 2: to change. But it will I I.
Speaker 1: I whole out hope. In fact, I kind of.
Speaker 2: Want Jerry to put his face here and say hi,
Speaker 2: because he's the partner. He just walked in the door.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, where come and say hi to clipt Down
Speaker 2: and you haven't seen him in yours.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jerry, how you doing, buddy? Did you guys have
Speaker 1: a good interview? Not done yet, so great to see you.
Speaker 1: You' fantastic you two. That's nice.
Speaker 2: I'm getting Thanksgiving dinner together for you know, Dade's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Tuesday. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was the cook today.
Speaker 1: But hey, as we conclude, Barbara, I want you to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit. In your book, you have describes
Speaker 1: the different you describe the different activations, and the one
Speaker 1: I'm curious about is the crop circles because they come
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and now the complexity. You can't have
Speaker 1: these things being faked because they're so complex that there's
Speaker 1: no way for him to do it. But talk a
Speaker 1: bit about the meaning of the crop circles and what
Speaker 1: they are, what the data is about.
Speaker 2: The crop circles became really active just abroout the time
Speaker 2: when alchemy of nine dimensions and creating agenda came in,
Speaker 2: and so I really resonate with crop circles. And I
Speaker 2: was a crop circle researcher in basically the nineteen nineties,
Speaker 2: and so while I was working with crop circle researchers,
Speaker 2: I discovered that I could create images for the crop
Speaker 2: circle lakers to make, and then I developed a technique
Speaker 2: for sending the information to the circle lakers, and then
Speaker 2: within a few days they appeared in the fields.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that good. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that about what it is.
Speaker 2: It's a great example of how any one of us
Speaker 2: could be in touch with all these dimensions if we
Speaker 2: tend to do that. And so I was working a
Speaker 2: lot with John Michelle, and John Michelle's not with us
Speaker 2: any orbit. He and I had a lot of fun
Speaker 2: and Jerry sitting around in pubs talking about working with
Speaker 2: the circle makers. John really like drink beer. And so
Speaker 2: the tenth and eleventh chapter have a very detailed exponent
Speaker 2: of what I was doing, how it works, and most
Speaker 2: importantly explaining how the circles are actually made and it's
Speaker 2: right in the book, and of course you can be
Speaker 2: sure that almost nobody's going to pay an attention to
Speaker 2: it because so outrageous. Yeah, but I had it verified.
Speaker 2: Colin Andrews is one of the top researchers, and he
Speaker 2: verified it by coming to one of the times when
Speaker 2: I created circles images for circles.
Speaker 1: So it's all.
Speaker 2: There, and you know I stand on it.
Speaker 1: The books call Alchemy of the Nine Dimensions. It's the
Speaker 1: twentieth edition. My guess today has been Barbara Hanklow, and
Speaker 1: you got to get this book. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: prelude to what's happening. It's always a good reach. He's
Speaker 1: a really, really good author, so be sure to check
Speaker 1: it out. Barbara, give us a sense of how we
Speaker 1: can get ahold of you.
Speaker 2: What's the website and HA and D like your hand
Speaker 2: plow clow twenty twelve dot com.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you.
Speaker 2: What I do on that besides lots of information like
Speaker 2: how to conduct activations and your interview will be on there.
Speaker 2: I do an analysis of all four seasons, so I'm
Speaker 2: working on the Winter Solstice right now. So if people
Speaker 2: subscribe to it, nobody pays anything, nothing, you'll get the
Speaker 2: seasonal of reading every every three months.
Speaker 1: That's what are you doing any video? I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Do you have a YouTube channel where you're actually posting
Speaker 1: your zoom pre material at all?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: YouTube channel?
Speaker 2: Well, these youtubes go on the website. But I don't
Speaker 2: know what you mean. I'm not techie at all, Like
Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not on any it's.
Speaker 1: A form of social media. You can have a YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: I stay away from all of it on your website.
Speaker 2: The website, yeah, because if I went on social media,
Speaker 2: that'd be the end of you doing any more work.
Speaker 1: Barbara, as always, A pleasure to see you, and much
Speaker 1: luck on this good book, on this new book, which
Speaker 1: is a good book. And thank you so much. A
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. Pleasure to see you again.
Speaker 1: You know, we mentioned at the early stage of that
Speaker 1: interview that the attention deficit disorders that we are manifesting
Speaker 1: through the use of our iPhones and apps like TikTok
Speaker 1: and all these games and everything that takes us away
Speaker 1: from natural thinking and relaxing and meditating is a problem.
Speaker 1: It's really a problem. And I've always said to activate
Speaker 1: and to be a part of these subtled energies. You
Speaker 1: have to learn to meditate or quiet your mind. You
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to be in a class to learn
Speaker 1: how to meditate. I strongly urge people to go to
Speaker 1: transidental meditation taught by the or designed by the former
Speaker 1: Yogi Maharishi mesh Yogi, and it's a powerful technique and
Speaker 1: you really can sense when you are very very deep,
Speaker 1: you don't go to sleep, you're shifting into a different
Speaker 1: level of consciousness. And when you have a meditative practice,
Speaker 1: you can actually get a sense of these dimensions. You
Speaker 1: can actually work with them. Not in the same way
Speaker 1: we talk about the Akashyak records, remember the Akashak records.
Speaker 1: We still haven't had a solid explanation from many of
Speaker 1: the authors that we've interviewed about this dimension how to
Speaker 1: access it. You know, it's all kind of imaginary, but
Speaker 1: how do you know you're in When you meditate, you
Speaker 1: can feel the changes, you can feel the shift, and
Speaker 1: I think some form of meditation is going to be
Speaker 1: important to get into the nine dimensions. So that's just
Speaker 1: my two cents worth, And do arch on Google, do
Speaker 1: a search with your favorite search engine for meditative techniques.
Speaker 1: Meditative practices that allow you to go deep to quiet
Speaker 1: the mind, quiet the brain, quiet the noise, and allow
Speaker 1: you to sense these other dimensions, because that's where you're
Speaker 1: going to access them and get the benefits. I'm also
Speaker 1: of the belief that a lot of this happens naturally
Speaker 1: for us. If you're a physical being. For the most part,
Speaker 1: you're listening to your physical so you're getting bombarded by
Speaker 1: these frequencies that are automatically evolving your sense of awareness. Now,
Speaker 1: how you choose to use this information is something entirely different.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that, and I think it's outlined
Speaker 1: in the book. But most of the time, it's a
Speaker 1: greater perception, greater ability to connect with nature, your felt human,
Speaker 1: your fellow earthling, and to take this energy in and
Speaker 1: then use it as you need. Use it to inspire yourself,
Speaker 1: use it for healing, use it for a Barber talked
Speaker 1: a great deal about this trauma that we all have
Speaker 1: in our system, this catastrophic trauma that we all went through,
Speaker 1: our ancestors went through, that's been handed down, this earth
Speaker 1: bombardment that Randall Carlson talks about, and Graham is, you know,
Speaker 1: presenting it on ancient apocalypse, So there you go. So anyhow,
Speaker 1: some form of meditation might be a benefit. I mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier that we do have some tours coming up in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Easter Island is one. We will be
Speaker 1: in Turkey June, the end of June for two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's where the fit stages of that, and you can
Speaker 1: go see that probably within two weeks on Earth Ancients
Speaker 1: dot com Forward slash tours Turkey again with Delma and
Speaker 1: Sabaturs that's Mohammad Imbrahem and his wife Noha. Our final
Speaker 1: tour of the year is going to be in Guatemala
Speaker 1: Day of the Dead twenty twenty five. We will be
Speaker 1: with an archaeologist, but I'm thinking right now working with
Speaker 1: someone new who's very very good on the energy side
Speaker 1: of it, so we all can tap into these tolleric
Speaker 1: fields that are emanating from the pyramids. So that's three tours.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably gonna be it because I need
Speaker 1: to get this book done for next year. If you
Speaker 1: have any questions about any of our tours, send me
Speaker 1: an email sent it to Earth Ancients the number four
Speaker 1: the letter you at gmail dot com, and I promise
Speaker 1: to get back to you on any of your inquiries.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Three tours for twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: Easter Island Repinui, Turkey in June, and then in October
Speaker 1: will be in Guatemala. So these are great tours, are
Speaker 1: great fun. So consider that. All right, that's it for
Speaker 1: this program today. I want to thank my guest today,
Speaker 1: Barbara Hancloud, coming to us from New Mexico. As always
Speaker 1: the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who
Speaker 1: makes this thing happen. Thank you all right, take care,
Speaker 1: be well, and we will talk to you next time.
Speaker 1: Col