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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you come on in let's talk. I have

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<v Speaker 1>posted a series of photographs from our recent tour in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>most notably the Anthropology Museum and one of the figures

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<v Speaker 1>there that I called I Robot or the Robot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the figure is in a suit of armor,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever the hell he's wearing on his head is

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<v Speaker 1>not of any design that I've ever seen before. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've commented about him over the years and made the

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<v Speaker 1>comment and made the suggestion that if this piece, the sculpture,

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<v Speaker 1>was in any American or European museum, it wouldn't see

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<v Speaker 1>the light of day, And simply put, it's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so odd and brings up so many questions, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be allowed to be seen. And that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so unique. I was looking at it and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to post a video that I took with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the details. But what makes this unique figure fabulous

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<v Speaker 1>as a number of observable reasons. The first one is

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<v Speaker 1>he is strapped in to some kind of apparatus. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a full belly strap that goes from side to side,

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<v Speaker 1>that locks him in to some vehicle, to some apparatus.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one. Number two, I mentioned the suit of

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<v Speaker 1>armor that when you look at it under different light patterns,

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<v Speaker 1>different colored spectrums, which I did with D stretch. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>D stretch. Doctor Harmon had created this tool for people

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<v Speaker 1>that study petroglyphs, and he was looking at petroglyphs in

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<v Speaker 1>Baja California, and he developed a series of light scans

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<v Speaker 1>patterns that you could pass over a photograph to extract

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<v Speaker 1>the original color. Well, I use this on this sculpture,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens is when you use the yellow spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>and the reddish spectrum, it extracts details on the face

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<v Speaker 1>how it was carved. What we're seeing and what you

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<v Speaker 1>get an idea for is that this figure is wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a protective helmet that looks like an old Robbie the

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<v Speaker 1>robot sculpture head or robot head from the nineteen late

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<v Speaker 1>n fifties early nineteen sixties. Now why do they do this?

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<v Speaker 1>He is this figure is carved on a column that

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<v Speaker 1>appears in Ushkin Took, Yucatan, which is a very ancient

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<v Speaker 1>city estimated to be five hundred BC. Now that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very conservative date. I'm of the belief, and I write

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<v Speaker 1>about this in my book The Maya Controversy, that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very very early sculpture representing either a figure

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<v Speaker 1>in a war outfit. He's in a battle outfit, or

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<v Speaker 1>is a protective suit and he's writing some kind of technology.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see the face, you will know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. It is so unique and there is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like it anywhere anywhere. We're looking at a phase

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<v Speaker 1>of Maya history that is not talked about, not documented,

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't know a great deal about it. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys were so old that they were likely in this

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<v Speaker 1>aerial bombardment that Hancock and Russell Randall, Carlson and many

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<v Speaker 1>others describe as a devastating asteroid hit that basically wiped

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<v Speaker 1>the planet clean of humanity except for small percentage. This

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<v Speaker 1>sculpture is prior to that. It's the earlier epoch. What

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<v Speaker 1>you see in these scans is fascinating. You see the

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<v Speaker 1>details of the eyes, which are goggles. You see rudimentary nose.

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<v Speaker 1>You see ear they look like ear must but they're

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<v Speaker 1>more like ear. They look like ear covers, like a headset,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a suit. It's a helmet that this guy's wearing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that really kind of gives it away

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<v Speaker 1>is in his right hand, he's holding something and guiding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a star shaped apparatus that he's he's driving this

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<v Speaker 1>thing with. Why they image this, why they immortalize this figure,

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<v Speaker 1>is beyond me. But it must have been important in

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<v Speaker 1>an earlier epoch of the Maya, and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. This technology, this D stretch scanning filters that

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<v Speaker 1>is used for petroglyphs, extracts great detail. And see what

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<v Speaker 1>you think, take a look at it. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>it on Earth Ancients. Go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on either the international or the group page. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. And I tell you it's it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>have that tool to use on sculptures. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>start using it when I go to Europe to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the classic museums, even the met you know, look

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<v Speaker 1>at look at some of the and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fifty bucks to download. Go to D stretch and

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<v Speaker 1>download it on that page, put it on your iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can take photographs and look at it on

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<v Speaker 1>your lap on your desktop with more detail. It was

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<v Speaker 1>great to have, and like I said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to use it. Good tour, good group of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it the last couple of weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Mexico. I'd like to try to go there once

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<v Speaker 1>a year. We have a brand new tour schedule coming

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<v Speaker 1>up for twenty twenty five. Of course from Easter Island.

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<v Speaker 1>We have and it's amazing to me. We're sold out

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<v Speaker 1>of Easter Island, which is March fifteenth to the twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>but one person's schedule came up with a conflict, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have one spot left. Can you believe it? Rap

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<v Speaker 1>anewly with doctor Edwin Barnhardt is going to be a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have time and you want to join us,

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<v Speaker 1>go to earthacients dot com forward slash Tours. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>the banner, open it up and look at that itinerary.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unbelievable and it's unbelievab because we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>going with ed to a lot of the areas that

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<v Speaker 1>he imaged and did some surveying with and found unusual

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<v Speaker 1>building foundations and a lot of other things that he'll

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<v Speaker 1>just explain to us on the tour. So one spot.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want more details, email me at Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>for you at Gmail, Earth Ancients to the number four

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<v Speaker 1>of the letter you at at gmail dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>go Cliff. I want to know more, Tell me more.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be that last person jump on board.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already uh, I've sent it out to three people

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and no one's pulled the trigger and put

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<v Speaker 1>their deposit down yet. So it's a it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's March. It's got you're gone for a week. But

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<v Speaker 1>what a treat to go with somebody who knows this

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<v Speaker 1>area intimately and can give us a tour of a lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, just amazing. So again, Earth Ancients dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash tours or email me at earth Ancients the

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<v Speaker 1>number four of the letter you at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Cliff, tell me more? Will you please tell me more?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Today, my guest is Barbara Hanclow. Barbara and

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<v Speaker 1>I go back thirty years. She was the publisher of

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<v Speaker 1>Barron Company, which now has morphed into Inner Traditions, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest metaphysical, spiritual personal growth publishers in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>based in Vermont, United States. But Barbara is also a

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<v Speaker 1>prolific author, and she is releasing a book that she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote twenty years ago called Alchemy of the Nine Dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an important book because it gets into various openings,

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<v Speaker 1>various changes in our Earth's frequency. I think she calls them.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they're called activations, is what the word is. But

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<v Speaker 1>what makes us a fun interview is not only connecting

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<v Speaker 1>with Barbara, but she is part Indigenous and also an astrologer,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she can bring forth the energetics behind changes

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<v Speaker 1>in our perception upcoming changes in Earth's environment, not only

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<v Speaker 1>geologically but also energetically, some of the new discoveries that

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<v Speaker 1>have been made archaeologically, which is always fun to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about because we do crossover into earth ancients quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking destiny today and the various dimensions. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>nine dimensions according to the Pladaeons. If you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the Pliades, it's been thought that by this is

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<v Speaker 1>by indigenous cultures of the Earth. The Pleiads were very

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<v Speaker 1>much like humans in physical appearance, and tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago they likely populated planet Earth and left

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<v Speaker 1>us with some and we and we inherited a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the attributes of that people. The thing that makes

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<v Speaker 1>this book interesting. And the full title again is alchemy

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nine Dimensions, activating the full spectrum of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>as to the subtitle. But what makes this important is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we are inheriting this, We are blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to have this ancestry. And you know, it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of hints that various goddesses of

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<v Speaker 1>the Egyptian culture and the Mayan culture, most notably Satya,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talk about Satya off and on. But these

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<v Speaker 1>temples that they made for these gods and goddesses are

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<v Speaker 1>actually their actual human beings or hominins that had lived

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth thousands of years ago and were demi gods.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were like we talk about as the

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<v Speaker 1>Yuga cycles, the Triata Yuga, where we as Homo sapiens

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth had godlike powers. We could see when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>Dimensions is all about is using these powers and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>and so by activating them. And this is what Barbara

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<v Speaker 1>is going to talk about today. We go through different cycles,

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<v Speaker 1>and we go through various evolutionary periods, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>through another one, and we're continually going through another one

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of one, going to another, third dimension, fourth dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth dimission, all the way to the ninth dimension. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll learn what that means today. So today's program is

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<v Speaker 1>Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, and my guest is Barbara hand Klow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great to talk to Barbara hank Klow. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to Barbara. It's been a few years now.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara and I go back over thirty years in the

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<v Speaker 1>days when I was a program director for the Whole

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<v Speaker 1>Life Expo. I'm always talking about Whole Life Expo because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a phenomenon that included a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>vers and shakers. Tim Larry was one of them, Terence McKenna,

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<v Speaker 1>just a whole plethora of people that are remembered now

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<v Speaker 1>dearly departed, but they have left their impression. But I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, Barbara Handcloud on her own former publisher Bearing Company,

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<v Speaker 1>is a presence in her own right. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who Barbara is, she is a astrologer, an author,

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<v Speaker 1>a ceremonial leader. If you listen to her name, Barbara Hancloud,

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<v Speaker 1>she's part Indigenous tribal person and it's always fun to

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<v Speaker 1>have her. She's got a twentieth edition in this new

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<v Speaker 1>book called Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, Activating the Five Spectrums

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<v Speaker 1>of Consciousness, And we're going to talk about this new

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<v Speaker 1>update and she's got some new portions of this book

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<v Speaker 1>that are really really exciting. So hey, Barbara, welcome to Destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see you, clos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time it's been. I think it's been three or

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<v Speaker 1>four years since we had you on last And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what book it is. You seem to spit

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<v Speaker 1>out a book every three years. It's you're inspired or

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<v Speaker 1>you have a transmission. One thing I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about. You mentioned this quite regularly in the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of this updated new book, the twentieth edition of Tintinidis,

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<v Speaker 1>which is ringing in the ears I have it going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. Do you think that this is something

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<v Speaker 1>where a frequency is trying to get into our brains

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<v Speaker 1>for those because there's a lot of people that have tenonitis.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say tonightis is tonightis? I said ten andights

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<v Speaker 1>which is a muscle problem, the ringing of the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a frequency perhaps that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are not adjusting to and so they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ringing or what would you say would be the causation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do think that people should always get a

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<v Speaker 2>hearing test and talk to it, talk to it audiologists,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes it's just some kind of aging deterioration or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think in many cases it is frequencies coming

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<v Speaker 2>in from other dimensions, particularly in my case, because you

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<v Speaker 2>recall you recall let's see the Pleiadian Agenda and New

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<v Speaker 2>Toxology for the Age of Light. Yeah, because I came

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<v Speaker 2>it out for four or five hours, but at any rate,

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<v Speaker 2>when the Pleading Agenda came to me back at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of nineteen ninety four into early nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was, it was before the tonight has started,

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<v Speaker 2>what was happening was just light force was downloading a

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<v Speaker 2>So I once it was over with and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks later, I started getting tonics and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>And so I did figure that out, and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>the one that I'm here to discuss with you today,

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth anniversary of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>scientific analysis of a channel book. So the Fleadian Agenda's channels,

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<v Speaker 2>and then this book is a more of a left

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<v Speaker 1>Talk a little bit, Barbara about the connection between the

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<v Speaker 1>PLDs and Earth. I want to get into specifics in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but overall, on a historic level, the indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>only from the visitors from the PLDs actual ets, but

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<v Speaker 1>energetics that is bathing the Earth. Talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, first of all, I'm part Cherokee, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the Pleiades. And that's just simply what I always understood

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<v Speaker 2>and I still do. And so then I discovered over

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<v Speaker 2>many years of living that lots and lots of indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>people resonate very very deeply with the Fleiades. And then

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<v Speaker 2>as I studied it more, particularly with anthropologists, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to realize that there's evidence all over this planet for

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<v Speaker 2>people being connected to an influenced by the star system,

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<v Speaker 2>the Fliades star system, going back forty to fifty thousand years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we find it in mythology, It's in Greek mythology.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Cliff, what I would say is, after you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all these years of teaching and all these years of experience,

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<v Speaker 2>I've come to the conclusion that the Fleiodes were really

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<v Speaker 2>probably an existing culture on our planet for the last

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand years. Now, the last one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>years is the high point of the Paleolithic era, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the era of painting. You know, cave paintings that

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<v Speaker 2>we found on the walls, and you know, the ancient culture.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've begun to realize that it isn't just about

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<v Speaker 2>people landing from the fleety somehow, it's a deeper connection

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like a fundamental part of the culture of Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a sense of this writing, because in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eleven you revise the book. What changed in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want you to tell us from there

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<v Speaker 1>what you have observed and picked up for this new edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so in twenty eleven, twenty ten, actually I did

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<v Speaker 2>the first revision of the original Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I did it was that I realized I

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<v Speaker 2>did not have the fourth dimension correct. And this was

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<v Speaker 2>a really big deal because the fourth dimension is the

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<v Speaker 2>dimension of the collective mind, the collective unconscious, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the dimension just beyond our dimension. Our dimension is the

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<v Speaker 2>third dimension. And in the fourth dimension, what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>we have an emotional connection to the cosmos, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth dimension, in the lower stages of it, things

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<v Speaker 2>tend to dualize into darken light, good and evil, bad

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<v Speaker 2>and good, just all kinds of dualities, and that as

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<v Speaker 2>we get higher into the fourth dimension, we start to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to polarize some of these dilemmas, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that we start to widen our scope on an issue

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<v Speaker 2>and then bring it to center and develop the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to see it from both sides. So this would be,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, a person who could understand what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East at this moment in time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that also has some pretty found profound disagreements or agreements.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good example of a duality or a polarity.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was really worried because I didn't have it right.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the see what that dimension deals with

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<v Speaker 2>is like the global elite, the global controllers, the high masons.

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<v Speaker 2>It deals with all of the forces on our planets

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<v Speaker 2>that are attempting to control us. And I had to

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<v Speaker 2>really nail what is this dimension, where is it coming from,

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<v Speaker 2>and what does it mean? And so that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>had to deal with things that I didn't understand until

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<v Speaker 2>I revised the book, such as the influence of Zacharai

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<v Speaker 2>Sitchen and all of his books, The Twelve Planet and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, because Zacharai Sitchen had a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>to say that are really absolutely correct regarding Sumerian culture.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we need to understand is that this issue

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<v Speaker 2>of this fourth dimensional force goes back to the Sumerians

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<v Speaker 2>and before then that even probably and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the issue actually goes back to the time after the

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<v Speaker 2>big cataclysm. So what happened on our planet historically was

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<v Speaker 2>around twelve thousand years ago, we suffered a series of

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<v Speaker 2>monumental cataclysmic events and those events turned us into a fearful,

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<v Speaker 2>multi traumatized species. And that once the cataclysms were gone

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<v Speaker 2>and the planet was starting to get itself back together,

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<v Speaker 2>we had thousands of years of survivalism. And this data

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<v Speaker 2>bank on the fourth dimension and the Sumerian culture and

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<v Speaker 2>then the Hebrew culture, then the Christian culture, this whole

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<v Speaker 2>data bank goes back to that period of survivalism. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that we've got to understand at this

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<v Speaker 2>moment in time, because there's two reasons. By using the

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<v Speaker 2>precession of the equinoxis, which is something we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about in a minute. We're at the halfway point after

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<v Speaker 2>that cataclysm twelve thousand years ago. In other words, the

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<v Speaker 2>precessional cycle is twenty four, twenty five, twenty six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>years long, and we walk from to the opposite point

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<v Speaker 2>to those cataclysms. And in case there's somebody who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>notice that we're in the middle of a cataclysmic cycle

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<v Speaker 2>at this moment in time. But what the Pleiadians have

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<v Speaker 2>to say about that one is really significant that the

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<v Speaker 2>Cleadiums say the cycle twelve thousand years ago was geological

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<v Speaker 2>and cataclysmic, and it was a physical cataclysm, but what

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<v Speaker 2>we're actually undergoing at this time, more importantly, is an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional cataclysm. So then somebody will say, oh great, no

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<v Speaker 2>rifquakes don't fly, well, there's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff going on, because when we come to

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<v Speaker 2>this point in the cycle, which by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>also the end of the coliug in Indian teaching. So

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<v Speaker 2>when we get to this point, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Earth's disturbances and earth cyclical disasters.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pleiadeans say is they say that we humans that they

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<v Speaker 2>say that emotions are harder to deal with in physical cataclysms,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've noticed that myself, and so at any rate,

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<v Speaker 2>what's important to identify is we are moving beyond being

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<v Speaker 2>a multi traumatized species, and in my understanding of things,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way that we can get there is to

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<v Speaker 2>open up nine dimensions of consciousness within our being, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're right in the middle of that right now. We're

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<v Speaker 2>start a lot of people are starting to really move

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<v Speaker 2>more into the fifth dimension, are starting to move beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the duality and beyond the conflict over darkness and light,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're starting to move into opening the heart. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a really wonderful period in time from that

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<v Speaker 2>point of view. But many, many, many people on this

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<v Speaker 2>planet are very undeveloped at this time, and so they're

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of a deep kind of core, a fearful,

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<v Speaker 2>multi traumatized species of awakening. So I never want to

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<v Speaker 2>sound like this is going to be easy, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be easy. But I've been a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty years now and I have seen such amazing

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<v Speaker 2>growth and development in people, and particularly Cliff in relationship

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<v Speaker 2>to this book, what's happening with this book is people

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<v Speaker 2>under forty fifty years old seem to really be able

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<v Speaker 2>to understand this new edition of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions,

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<v Speaker 2>because what's happening is when you go down in age,

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<v Speaker 2>more people are more open, and so in that sense,

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<v Speaker 2>this time has come to this book to return in

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful form. The publishers did such a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Job talk about the scientific level of frequency or energy

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<v Speaker 1>that is bathing the earth and how do we Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we can't detect it with instruments, but the way you

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<v Speaker 1>describe it in this book and others have described it too,

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<v Speaker 1>when we are obeyed with this energy, it triggers something

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<v Speaker 1>on a cellular level that helps us evolve. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to explain it other than metaphysically, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>have some other techniques or some other language, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. When our channel to eating in is gender, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the data bank that's in this book from the Fleadies.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought it in November nineteen ninety four through mar

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<v Speaker 2>Shape for nineteen ninety five, and that was the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same timeframe when Edward Whitney brought in superstring theory. And

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<v Speaker 2>even isn't that amazing? Yeah, yeah, I noticed that of

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<v Speaker 2>course early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just kind of figure out that his book

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<v Speaker 1>was released at that same time or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the way a physicist brings in a theory like

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<v Speaker 2>superstring theory, they do the mathematical calculations called gauge theory.

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<v Speaker 2>And when a physicist or a mathematician decides to prove

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<v Speaker 2>a theorem, you know, you could take a room like

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<v Speaker 2>the room that you're in right now, and imagine all

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<v Speaker 2>four walls have what do you call it we used

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<v Speaker 2>to have in school, the chalkboards, you know, whatever those

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<v Speaker 2>things are. It's all let's magic. Sell Chuck quotes on

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<v Speaker 2>all four walls. And if you look at the physicist

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<v Speaker 2>proof of a particular issue, it could be twenty lines

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<v Speaker 2>up and down and you know, all the way across

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<v Speaker 2>the room. It's very complicated to prove something by means

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<v Speaker 2>of mathematical physics. And so Edward Whitten wrote down the

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<v Speaker 2>calculations for string theory during those five or six months.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I took note of that and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that really probably really means something. But the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened, in a way is even more astonishing. I

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<v Speaker 2>was working at Baring Company doing acquisitions At the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I had already handed in my manuscript for the preat

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<v Speaker 2>and Agenda, so it was in editorial. I got four submissions.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I used to get about ten thousand submissions a

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<v Speaker 2>year because very very big, heavy load. I got four

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<v Speaker 2>different submissions for exactly the same data bank. Now you've

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<v Speaker 2>looked into this book, and you know how complicated this is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not New Age love and life. This complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one thing I that made me feel kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bad was a pretty finished manuscript, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. But mine was already in and it was

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<v Speaker 2>already getting ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I suggesting Barra that the information was coming through and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody different people were picking it up and creating books,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all kind of on the same theme.

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<v Speaker 2>At least four other people wow the same databank, when ever,

421
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<v Speaker 2>Witten was writing superstring theory, and when I brought mine in.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you think of all of the publishers

423
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<v Speaker 2>out there, how many queries must have must have come

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<v Speaker 2>in on this material. And having been an acquisition's editor,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this before. It's one of the most important

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<v Speaker 2>parts of our job is to really figure out, like

427
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<v Speaker 2>who's the person who really got this information first and

428
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<v Speaker 2>created a fairly good description of it, if you see

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So when that happened, that happened in

430
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<v Speaker 2>the fall of nineteen ninety five, I went, there's something

431
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<v Speaker 2>really going on here. But the most important thing about

432
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<v Speaker 2>this is that because of that, I was sure that

433
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<v Speaker 2>this data bank must be the same as superstring theory.

434
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<v Speaker 2>And so in Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>comparison of some of the different superstring theorists and what

436
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<v Speaker 2>they had to say have to say. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about a cliff, if you go back, well, what

438
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<v Speaker 2>is it forty years now? If you go back to

439
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<v Speaker 2>when superstring theory got it came in those of us

440
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<v Speaker 2>working in New Age consciousness, A lot of people got

441
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<v Speaker 2>very excited because we could see that this was an

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<v Speaker 2>advancement in physics. It's only one problem with superstring theory.

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<v Speaker 2>If superstring theory were to be the model for physics

444
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<v Speaker 2>occurrent physics of our times, we would have a multidimensional physics.

445
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<v Speaker 2>And the control of people, the high Masonic people and

446
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<v Speaker 2>the people in the military, industrial conflicts, etc. They don't

447
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<v Speaker 2>want us to become multi dimensional because when we're multi dimensional,

448
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<v Speaker 2>were free. So super string theory went just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept waiting, when are we going to hear when

450
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<v Speaker 2>are we going to start getting all this exciting information

451
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<v Speaker 2>about the meaning of all this multi dimensional potential? And

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<v Speaker 2>you notice it just disappeared. It's called it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Stone Wall.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you're describing, though, Barbara, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>this string theory, which is extremely scientifically complicated, talks about

456
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<v Speaker 1>you know, dimensions, stuff like that, and then it's downloaded

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<v Speaker 1>to creatives like you and these others that you discovered

458
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<v Speaker 1>as an acquisition editor to be more palatable to the

459
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<v Speaker 1>mainstream who doesn't necessarily have a scientific background, and perhaps

460
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<v Speaker 1>it came through obviously that book was very well received,

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<v Speaker 1>that book when it first came out, your book, I'm

462
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<v Speaker 1>talking to me, but what does that mean?

463
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<v Speaker 2>You know, people sense there was something truthful in it,

464
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<v Speaker 2>like the Pleiadi and agenda, because it's a channel book

465
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<v Speaker 2>and the speaker is Sacha, who's a goddess from the Pleiades.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about her in a minute, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, she's very as far as like Lisa,

468
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<v Speaker 2>she's basically a rude person. But people really resonated with it,

469
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<v Speaker 2>resonated with material, and I find in my lifetime when

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, that's because it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of almost like Carlos aguilas book. Uh the

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of what the theme was where there

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<v Speaker 1>was a shift in consciousness. What was the hell? What

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<v Speaker 1>was his thing? Carlos Aguilas he had a shift in

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<v Speaker 1>a time period where where everyone needed to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>they were not simply physical, but that they were they

477
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<v Speaker 1>were a spiritual light being and that they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that. And he came around in the late eighties

479
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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen eighties. And then here's your book shifting. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so this is all very very important. Harmonic convergence was.

481
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<v Speaker 2>What you thought you're thinking of, Jose Eric Willams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what I say, Carlo.

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<v Speaker 2>A harmonic convergence Jose and Barlos.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say Carlos. I misplayed and pronounced his first name.

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<v Speaker 1>I said Carlos. But this that was a very big

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<v Speaker 1>frequency change that even though people who didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>belief in it, knew that there was something happening and

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<v Speaker 1>they connected with it unconsciously. And then this is a

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<v Speaker 1>big activation going on when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, well, and then again the media made a joke

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. The media satirize it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever used to read Dounsbery by Gary Trudeau,

493
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<v Speaker 2>but there's character on Doonesbury named Bootsie and is modeled

494
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<v Speaker 2>after me. Okay, so Gary was an old Gary was

495
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<v Speaker 2>an old friend of ours for many many years. And

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<v Speaker 2>so Gary had met Boopsie flying over toot walk On

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<v Speaker 2>during Harmonic convergence, which in fact I was. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a Harmonic convergence with one of my sons and

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<v Speaker 2>with Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>T walk On in Mexico. Oh yeah, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We led ceremonies and there were one hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>with and you want to know what you're in the media,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gee, was far Around five thousand people showed up

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<v Speaker 2>a teo t walk On. Not true. I was there

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just a mob scene. And maybe more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>because I still worked with my elders, people returned every

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<v Speaker 2>year at the at that point, every anniversary for that,

508
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<v Speaker 2>because that's a big celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to ad unify themselves and we will return

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<v Speaker 1>shortly with my guests. Today. Barbara han Klow discussing her

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth anniversary reissuing of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back. My guest today is author Barbara hank Klow,

514
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<v Speaker 1>who has re released with a lot of updates and

515
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<v Speaker 1>information added to it a book she wrote twenty years

516
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<v Speaker 1>ago called Alchemy of Nine Dimensions, and this is the

517
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<v Speaker 1>Pladean activation that she has been teaching for many many years,

518
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<v Speaker 1>over twenty years. And this is details on how to

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<v Speaker 1>use this energy, why it's important, and it's how it

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<v Speaker 1>is an evolutionary period for those of us who live

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<v Speaker 1>on the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to the kind of question you started out with,

523
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<v Speaker 2>which is what actually is a dimension? And like how

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<v Speaker 2>do we pick up on it? How do we get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with it? Well, if you get into superstring theory,

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<v Speaker 2>you get into all kinds of models for nine to

527
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<v Speaker 2>eleven dimensions our universe in our cosmos, and each one

528
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<v Speaker 2>of them has different qualities. But then because it was

529
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<v Speaker 2>shut down in terms of being made available to the public,

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<v Speaker 2>then what happened is this model of this dimensional, these

531
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<v Speaker 2>dimensional levels started coming out through through people such as myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with the twenty ten edition, back to that

533
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<v Speaker 2>revision that one had that one had to do with

534
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<v Speaker 2>getting the fourth dimension absolutely correct, because the book, the

535
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<v Speaker 2>book is dysfunctional if it's not correct and had to

536
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<v Speaker 2>be fixed. So in this edition, what I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to do is I've been able to really present some

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<v Speaker 2>current science regarding multi dimensional discoveries, in particular the Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Brain Project. Yeah, yeah, the Bluebreen Project is a project

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on in Switzerland with a group of scientists

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<v Speaker 2>who were called topologists. And topologists topology is the mathematics

542
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<v Speaker 2>of the fifth dimension, according to the Pleadians. And by

543
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<v Speaker 2>the way, they said that way back in nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>That's even in the early edition of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.

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<v Speaker 2>But now what's happened is the topologists And who are

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<v Speaker 2>the topologists. Well, they are scientists who discover the mathematical

547
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<v Speaker 2>characteristics of curved surfaces such as parabolos and spheres and labyrinths,

548
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<v Speaker 2>all of those things. And that particular science topology is

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<v Speaker 2>behind a lot of the technology that people have these days,

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<v Speaker 2>such as cell phones and pads, iPads and all that

551
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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. So it's a very advanced level of

552
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<v Speaker 2>mathematics that's creating a lot of technology. Well, I think

553
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<v Speaker 2>it's about time for people to see what's really going

554
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<v Speaker 2>on with this, which is what I've published in this

555
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<v Speaker 2>new edition the Blue Brain Project. Topologists created mathematical systems

556
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<v Speaker 2>for creating diagrams and maps of the fields in the

557
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>human writing and the fields in the human brain break

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<v Speaker 2>down into nine to eleven fields of topological images, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're very beautiful, by the way, and the higher dimensions

560
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<v Speaker 2>are more complex, and the early you know, the lower

561
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<v Speaker 2>dimensions first dimentia, second dimension dimensions in our brains are

562
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<v Speaker 2>very relatively simple. So in other words, Clip, what has

563
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<v Speaker 2>happened with this material coming through alchemy of nine dimensions

564
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<v Speaker 2>is it's gone out of hypothesis and into theory. We

565
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<v Speaker 2>now know that the human brain functions according to superstring

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<v Speaker 2>theory and its functions according to to the alchemy of

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<v Speaker 2>the nine to mention. And this is critically important because

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<v Speaker 2>here everybody is, especially the younger generation, just having a

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<v Speaker 2>madly wonderful engagement with various technologies and various technological devices.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody needs to become conscious of what this is,

571
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<v Speaker 2>how this is affecting our brains. Like, for example, we

572
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<v Speaker 2>all know that people get just really hooked and addicted

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<v Speaker 2>and you just can't get away from it and they

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<v Speaker 2>have to do it for hours and hours. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think all this technology is creating a great, big,

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<v Speaker 2>explosive opening of the human brain. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny because no matter how hard they try to

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<v Speaker 2>stop us, they're not going to stop us.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait. Wait, you think it's a good thing that we

580
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<v Speaker 1>have all this tech? Like we're we can't get off TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't get off our iPhones? Talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't even have a cell phone, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know you mentioned that. Yeah, I know it makes I'll

584
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<v Speaker 2>tell you it makes life difficult for me and for us,

585
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<v Speaker 2>but I just can't. You've got to be really careful

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<v Speaker 2>that you're conscious of what you're doing, because nothing is

587
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<v Speaker 2>bad for you. It's how you use it, and it's

588
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>what you make out of it, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I see many many signs that people are

590
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<v Speaker 2>waking up fast to this. I mean, first of all,

591
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<v Speaker 2>fortunately schools are keeping this technology out of the hands

592
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<v Speaker 2>of students because they're there study in school. So I think,

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<v Speaker 2>considering how fast it's is coming on, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>think it's necessarily ultimately negative, but every one of us

595
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<v Speaker 2>has to be impeccable and you know, con sensitive about

596
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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing and how we're using things.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I want you to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>a new portion of this book that is highlighting archaeological discoveries.

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<v Speaker 1>You say that archaeologists have detected contact between the Pleads

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<v Speaker 1>and Earth forty thousand years ago. What's the evidence of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've got a wonderful stone age on archaeologist. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is Richard Rudgley. He's an English guy, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>published a couple of books, really good books on the

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<v Speaker 2>Paleolithic era. And he's the one who has established that

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<v Speaker 2>some of the drawings on the cave waults are either

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<v Speaker 2>symbols for the Pleiades or actual diagrams of the star system.

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<v Speaker 2>And then jury and I've gone all over the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>We find drawings of the Pleades everywhere on ancient stone technology,

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<v Speaker 2>just every world.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Yeah, talk about the goddess Satya, because you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up earlier. Was she involved in the dynastic Egyptians, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mayans and others who recognized her? Was she a physical

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<v Speaker 1>being or she more of an energetic that was named

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<v Speaker 1>Satya and her influence after.

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<v Speaker 2>That, well, see for me, Satcha is like a personality

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<v Speaker 2>that came out of me when I channeled, and I

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<v Speaker 2>find her to be basically arrogant and full of herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that? Why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>I just that's how I'm not like her at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very polite and very sensitive to anybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>room and their feelings and what they might think. And

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<v Speaker 2>Sacha doesn't give it, damn what you think. She just

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<v Speaker 2>blasts it out. But that's what it took to get

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<v Speaker 2>this information to break through into our realm, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I can tell. Then, in the vating culture of

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<v Speaker 2>the ancient Indian culture, Sacha is considered to be a

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<v Speaker 2>goddess of wisdom, and so I think she I think

628
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<v Speaker 2>she's full of herself, and I think she decided, well,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Satcha because she knew people would be

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with that. That's what I think of her. I

631
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<v Speaker 2>can't read pleating agenda almost because of her. But fortunately

632
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<v Speaker 2>she's funny, saucy, and the information gets through to us.

633
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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people will read preating an agenda,

634
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<v Speaker 2>but not Alchemy of nine Dimensions or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there temples to Satya that you're aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but since she's such a wisdom goddess

637
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<v Speaker 2>in India, there's got to be. I only went to India.

638
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<v Speaker 2>I taught in India in twenty ten, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only time I've been over there. And wow, what an overwhelming,

640
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<v Speaker 2>wonderful place.

641
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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a chance to go yet. I've had it. Well,

642
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<v Speaker 1>talk about the new discoveries in Romania. You just you

643
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<v Speaker 1>discuss tunnels and technology underground. I thought that was fascinating.

644
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Okay, faced with this doing this revision, how

645
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<v Speaker 2>can I make the most of it? That's always my so.

646
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<v Speaker 2>First of all, in the twenty ten edition of Alchemy

647
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<v Speaker 2>of Nine Dimensions, all of it was perfect. I mean,

648
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<v Speaker 2>all the dimensional descriptions are perfect except for the Knights dimension,

649
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<v Speaker 2>and the Knight's dimension is the dimension. Leadians say the

650
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<v Speaker 2>knights dimension is the dimension of time, and they say

651
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<v Speaker 2>that like the Keeper, the ruler of the ninth dimension

652
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<v Speaker 2>is old Keen. Zold Keen is the Mayan twenty day

653
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<v Speaker 2>signs in the Mayan day calendar. So back to my

654
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<v Speaker 2>work at Bear and Company and as an indigenous teacher,

655
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<v Speaker 2>I did research on the Mayan calendar and on the

656
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<v Speaker 2>Mayan civilization for like forty years, and Bear published some

657
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<v Speaker 2>of the early calendar researchers like Tony Shearer and Jose Arguays.

658
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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned we were one of the key sources for

659
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<v Speaker 2>all of these Mayan calendar questions, and so as I

660
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<v Speaker 2>got up to twenty ten, twenty eleven, when I was

661
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<v Speaker 2>revising Alchemby of nine Dimensions, again, I had published a

662
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<v Speaker 2>book by Carl Johann Khalamon, who's a Mayan Swedish mind

663
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<v Speaker 2>calendar researcher. And then because Kalamon's writing at the time

664
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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit of Tucson the Calendar, I asked

665
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<v Speaker 2>him if I could write a book about his theory,

666
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<v Speaker 2>and he was thrilled with that, and so I wrote

667
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<v Speaker 2>a book called the Mayan Code, and that came out

668
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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and seven. Yeah, so here we are

669
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<v Speaker 2>now in twenty ten, and I had worked with Kalaman,

670
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<v Speaker 2>worked with Arguays, etc. But twenty twelve and twenty eleven

671
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<v Speaker 2>had still not happened yet, and all of us were

672
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<v Speaker 2>starting to wait anxiously, you know, like again the media

673
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was saying, oh, it's the end of the world and

674
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<v Speaker 2>the New Age has gone nuts again. And then in

675
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<v Speaker 2>the Mayan Calendar movement, a big fight going on between

676
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<v Speaker 2>the people supported colin On and the people supported Arguyas

677
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<v Speaker 2>and the supported both of them published. And you know,

678
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<v Speaker 2>it's really crazy because the New Age movement was actually

679
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<v Speaker 2>looking pretty silly in twenty twelve. But then what happened

680
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<v Speaker 2>after that, And this is what I was after when

681
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<v Speaker 2>I revised the book the third time. After twenty twelve,

682
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<v Speaker 2>things got to be really strange. Do you remember, it

683
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 2>was like everything was people, things were distorted and people.

684
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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twelve was nutspar right it left. I mean, twenty

685
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<v Speaker 1>twelve was really weird, probably because they thought the world

686
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<v Speaker 1>was going to fold and people were going to lose

687
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 1>their minds and most and then of course the religions

688
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>thought the world was coming to an end. It was weird.

689
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it was weird. But then after that

690
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>was over it. It's kind of like after this twenty

691
00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty four election, then people had their hangover. Right, if

692
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<v Speaker 2>we get into twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, people were just like,

693
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<v Speaker 2>did anything happen? I don't know what happened. Well, all

694
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<v Speaker 2>kinds of things happened, as a matter of fact, Like

695
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 2>in the accelerator in Switzerland. The boson was discovered right

696
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<v Speaker 2>at the end of twenty twelve, which again is another

697
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.119
<v Speaker 2>proof of superstring theory. But let's keep it quiet and

698
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>let's not let the people find out about this stuff, right.

699
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<v Speaker 2>So there I was you know what am I going

700
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<v Speaker 2>to do?

701
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

702
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<v Speaker 2>So at that point I wrote, I decided, Okay, I

703
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.719
<v Speaker 2>can't handle the way people are acting. I'm going to

704
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<v Speaker 2>find another way to create ways for people to discover multidimensionality.

705
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 2>So I wrote a fictional trilogy with characters in Rome

706
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and in Tuscany and in the United States Eastern United States.

707
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I wrote a fictional trilogy called the Revelations Trilogy, and

708
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<v Speaker 2>the first one is Revelations of Ruby Crystal. Then the

709
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<v Speaker 2>second one is Revelations of the Querying Age that came

710
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<v Speaker 2>out in twenty eighteen, and then the third one is

711
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<v Speaker 2>Revelations from the Source, which came out in twenty twenty one.

712
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<v Speaker 2>And in these three books, my characters were waking up

713
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<v Speaker 2>and getting beyond the fourth dimensional darkened Light complex and

714
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 2>they were starting to attune to other dimensions. And some

715
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of the characters in the book were really developed individual,

716
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<v Speaker 2>brilliant individuals, great Italian astrology in this series who were

717
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<v Speaker 2>helping people to understand multidimensionality. So basically I cut out

718
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<v Speaker 2>of the left brain research field and everybody was waiting

719
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<v Speaker 2>for me to tell them what happened in twenty thirteen,

720
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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Well, I didn't have any idea

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<v Speaker 2>in myself, and I just switched into storytelling. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad I did that because now people are enjoying

723
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<v Speaker 2>reading novels about multidimensionality.

724
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<v Speaker 1>I think it helps the learning phase of taking all

725
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<v Speaker 1>this in real quickly. Barbara, how do we work with

726
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<v Speaker 1>nine dimensions? If we are in the third and fourth

727
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<v Speaker 1>dimension and I've had people on the program speaking on

728
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<v Speaker 1>the fifth dimension, and I have to just say this,

729
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<v Speaker 1>I think the fifth dimension situation is all over the

730
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<v Speaker 1>place because just the interpretations are off the charts. I

731
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<v Speaker 1>think you understand what I'm talking about. But as a

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<v Speaker 1>physical being who is a spiritual yearning and connecting to

733
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<v Speaker 1>various meditative processes, how do we move into this ninth

734
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<v Speaker 1>level elegantly? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well boy, this is Bursatro. It's so pushing. She came

736
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<v Speaker 2>through and by the way, the pleadiums transmit diagrams to me.

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<v Speaker 2>They just say, get out a piece of paper and

738
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<v Speaker 2>a pencil, copy about they've been doing that for years

739
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<v Speaker 2>and that I explore that in chapter ten and eleven

740
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<v Speaker 2>of Alchemy in Nine Dimensions, because crop circles work like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead.

742
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what happened was Satscha transmitted this diagram through

743
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<v Speaker 2>of like a healing table with the person lying on it,

744
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<v Speaker 2>and that person is in the third emotion?

745
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<v Speaker 1>Do you actually have a diagram of that in the book?

746
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<v Speaker 1>You show that.

747
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.599
<v Speaker 2>The worst part of the cliff was she she transmitted

748
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<v Speaker 2>it through to me and she said, Okay, when we're finished,

749
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<v Speaker 2>go get that tattooed on your right hand, on the

750
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<v Speaker 2>back of your right hand. And I went, oh, versus

751
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<v Speaker 2>the pleaadians for anybody who deals with them, and a

752
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of people do. Actually, they're very pushy because they're

753
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 2>so anxious for us to wake up, so they're always

754
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>come up with all kinds of bids. I said, no tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing any tattoos. The diagrams in the book,

756
00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's very powerful diagram because it's folks, how you

757
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in the third dimension, or me or anybody picks up

758
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<v Speaker 2>energy in the third dimension from the Turmuric, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Turmuric is the second dimension, which is the area between

760
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<v Speaker 2>the crust of the Earth and the center. Yeah, and

761
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<v Speaker 2>the center of the Earth is the iron core crystal,

762
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<v Speaker 2>which vibrates in frequencies with all of the other centers

763
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<v Speaker 2>in the universe, all the centers of the galaxies, the planets,

764
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<v Speaker 2>the stars. We're all resonating with our crystal in our planet.

765
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<v Speaker 2>Because see, everything resonates in everything is connected. So then

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<v Speaker 2>above the person of theater and show like a canopy,

767
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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like canopy over the person, because that's

768
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<v Speaker 2>the fourth dimension. And so when we're in the third dimension,

769
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<v Speaker 2>what's happening is the fourth dimension is affecting us intensely,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the collective consciousness, the unconscious aware, and it's

771
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the field of energy that connects us all. But that's

772
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<v Speaker 2>why we have such a struggle with it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of being a human is to be fully

774
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<v Speaker 2>conscious in three D and to understand how three D works,

775
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<v Speaker 2>And of course the book covers that and how to

776
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<v Speaker 2>meditate the three D and all that, because you don't

777
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<v Speaker 2>want to be overtaken by the fourth dimension. All you

778
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<v Speaker 2>want to do is use the fourth dimension as a

779
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<v Speaker 2>tool for contacting of all kinds of issues in the

780
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:34.599
<v Speaker 2>universe that you want to resolve. It's the area of

781
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.360
<v Speaker 2>our consciousness. And after I'll think about how you walk

782
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.119
<v Speaker 2>around all day and you know, okay, is not and

783
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<v Speaker 2>the oal I'm going to start World War three? Or

784
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.519
<v Speaker 2>is Joe Biden to have started? You know, our heads

785
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.280
<v Speaker 2>are just filled with all this buzz that's coming from

786
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like the election and all that kind of stuff's commonly

787
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 2>going to win? Is Trump going to win? And our

788
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 2>job as humans is to stay round it and to

789
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>say centered. And sometimes Jerry's you know, on these interviews

790
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>because he's a cranial sacral therapist, because you want to

791
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<v Speaker 2>stay right on that mid long you want to have

792
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 2>to come right down through the center of your body.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you can resolve these conflicts, which is

794
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<v Speaker 2>called which the Eastern meditators talk about, how our brains

795
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>are just filled with garb each and noise, if you

796
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 2>could resolve all that stuff going on in your head,

797
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 2>then you break through into the fifth demons, which in

798
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<v Speaker 2>my system is the opening of the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's important. So that's five. And so these

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<v Speaker 1>four additional those are those subtle dimensions that kind of

801
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<v Speaker 1>fall into place once you reach the fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>They're subtle, but boy, we can we use them. And

803
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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a good example.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be interested if you could define the subtlety

805
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<v Speaker 1>of them and what we should be looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So the energy is in our hearts, and

807
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<v Speaker 2>then as our hearts expand to get bigger. And this

808
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<v Speaker 2>is a tricky moment, no jury. And I talk thousands

809
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<v Speaker 2>of students and all over the planet, because when you

810
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<v Speaker 2>get to that point, if you don't move into the

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<v Speaker 2>sixth dimension from the expansion of the heart, you can

812
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<v Speaker 2>actually have a heart attack. And you've heard of people

813
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 2>having Kundalini rising and have a park trouble, and that's

814
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>because you haven't. The reason is you haven't been able

815
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<v Speaker 2>to move into the next level of complexity, which is

816
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<v Speaker 2>the sixth dimension. And the sixth dimensions is the dimension

817
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<v Speaker 2>that sacred geometry is the dimension of the platonic solids.

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<v Speaker 2>And like right here, I have an icosahedron that I'm

819
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<v Speaker 2>wholly about because I use this. When I got that

820
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>light thing from the creating agenda, it turns out that

821
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<v Speaker 2>what was receiving it was an icosahedron. So I found

822
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<v Speaker 2>one that and you notice the front of the book

823
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<v Speaker 2>is all geometry. So what we do ideally is we

824
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<v Speaker 2>expanded to the sixth dimension, and then what happens is

825
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<v Speaker 2>we can discover our ideal form for every human on

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<v Speaker 2>this planet. We have a six dimensional ideal form. It's

827
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<v Speaker 2>like the forms in Plato's philosophy. And we can align

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<v Speaker 2>with the sixth dimension by doing all kinds of special

829
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<v Speaker 2>techniques like yoga or tai chi or contact with dance

830
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<v Speaker 2>and movement and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just stop here just for a second, because

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<v Speaker 1>this hard thing is big on me. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>heart tech two years ago and they put a stent in.

834
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<v Speaker 1>They said, okay, you got a blockage. But I am

835
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>more of the energetic side. Is there techniques in my

836
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 1>meditation I should be looking at to bring in the

837
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<v Speaker 1>sixth so that I don't have any more problems?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, clip. The second dimension and the sixth dimension

839
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 2>are the key to our health because second dimension actually

840
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 2>creates us. It's the realm of minerals and microbials and

841
00:56:56.360 --> 00:57:02.199
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of intelligent of your potent energy forms the elementals.

842
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<v Speaker 2>So we need to really resonate with the elementals by

843
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<v Speaker 2>using alternative medicine.

844
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<v Speaker 1>As far as I'm conservative, well, I'm totally into that.

845
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<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering, is there a technique that you highlight

846
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<v Speaker 1>in the book where if you're in that transitional period

847
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>from fifth to six and we don't want to have

848
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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, those who are dealing with sensitivities.

849
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<v Speaker 2>That may not be why you had a heart attack,

850
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 2>we sure wanted to make sure it wasn't happening. I'll

851
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.239
<v Speaker 2>tell you, I want your experiences and workshops. But for you,

852
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>the more you study sacred geometry. And I highly recommend

853
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<v Speaker 2>John Michelle's books in particular because she's kind of a

854
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 2>master new view over Atlantis remember that all those years ago.

855
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:52.880
<v Speaker 2>John Michelle's work is wonderful. But the more you contemplate

856
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the sacred geometrical energy form that's creating you and holding

857
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you in form, the healthier you'll get. And you might

858
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<v Speaker 2>be one of the first people to go down to

859
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the doctor and say, okay, you take the stem out

860
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I want.

861
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 1>They don't do that. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not advising that.

863
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.079
<v Speaker 1>The big The big thing is they want to they

864
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>want and this is allopathy, which is just such problematic problem.

865
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<v Speaker 1>They want to they want to just medicate you till

866
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 1>you can't see straight.

867
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<v Speaker 2>I know. Yeah, the medication is just.

868
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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take another short commercial break to allow

869
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we'll return shortly with

870
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>my guest today, author Barbara hand Kloud, discussing her new

871
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 1>book release of Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. We'll rejoin you shortly.

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00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm joined today by author Barbara han Klow, who is

873
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 1>reissuing a book she wrote twenty years ago called Alchemy

874
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of Nine Dimensions, in which she outlines the different frequencies

875
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that we are receiving from the Pleiades, a series of

876
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>stars and planets and constellations light years away from us.

877
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But apparently, according to the indigenous traditions, these beings that

878
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 1>live in this squadron of our universe have been very

879
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>active in working with Earth's evolution. Yeah, let's talk about it.

880
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's get up to the ninth because I want my

881
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:16.039
<v Speaker 1>listeners to hear from you where they are going, what

882
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the feelings are, the sensations of the We're on sixth

883
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 1>level now, seventh, eighth, and ninth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so when you go into the seventh dimension, it's

885
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the dimension of sound. And of course we've all known

886
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 2>the Bible says that the divine comes to the Word

887
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:36.639
<v Speaker 2>of God comes to us through cosmic sound. All the

888
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:41.400
<v Speaker 2>spiritual traditions teach that these higher levels come from sound,

889
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and that the sound is pervasive throughout the universe. And

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01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.119
<v Speaker 2>so for you also, you may may want to check

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01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:53.280
<v Speaker 2>out on page two thirty eight if Alchemy of Nine Dimensions.

892
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 2>We've got a page there that tells you how to

893
01:00:56.679 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 2>download multi dimensional nine dimensional music into your computer, most

894
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 2>importantly for free. So Bear has a website where you

895
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.880
<v Speaker 2>can go to it. You can download it for free.

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<v Speaker 2>And this music was composed by Michael Stearns, the composer

897
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>for the background of Battlestar Galactica and some of the

898
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.519
<v Speaker 2>love reason an ambient.

899
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Piece or is it actually a melodic piece that he's made.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two. There's one that follows the nine dimensions exactly,

901
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's what's on the website. And then he took

902
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.440
<v Speaker 2>he said, okay, he was expensive, okay, and we only

903
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 2>had so much wed so he's a movie composer, right,

904
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>So so he said, look, he said, if you'll let

905
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.480
<v Speaker 2>me do my own composition out of what I create

906
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 2>for you, we can cut it in half. And so

907
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 2>he produced his own CD called Within, and that's available

908
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 2>on his website.

909
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Did what did this? What did you requisition him to

910
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:55.679
<v Speaker 1>do this music?

911
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:56.360
<v Speaker 2>What?

912
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 1>When did you have him compose this music? Eight? It

913
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>was a while ago.

914
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 2>All ago? Yeah, and it is incredible. He is the

915
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Beethoven of our times. Wow is he's a great great composure.

916
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 2>But what we did was for then nineteen ninety eight

917
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 2>up until last year, we kept selling CDs and we

918
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 2>finally paid for it. And so so then Bear, we said, okay,

919
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:30.159
<v Speaker 2>how expensive that it? Yeah, that's a real.

920
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Real Quickly, while we're on that topic, Barbara, did you

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01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:39.159
<v Speaker 1>notice people writing in h and discussing the effects of

922
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 1>this music on their consciousness?

923
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Remember we taught workshops for twenty years where what we

924
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>would do is Friday night I would give the dimensional

925
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>model and we give election, and then Saturday we would

926
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 2>activate the nine dimensions by creating an indigenous type ceremony

927
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and then bringing all the dimensions in. And that's where,

928
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 2>for example, we got up to the fifth dimension and

929
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:11.119
<v Speaker 2>everybody's expanding and expanding. Oh, they're ready to pop. And

930
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 2>then we bring in the sixth dimension in order to

931
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 2>complexify it. So that's that's just what we did. Then

932
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday we had a full circle where everybody shared

933
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.639
<v Speaker 2>what happened to them, So I have a lot of

934
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:27.400
<v Speaker 2>data on what happens for people. It's very powerful stuff.

935
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:31.519
<v Speaker 2>In fact, these teachings were so powerful that from the

936
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 2>very beginning we had one healer working with students for

937
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.239
<v Speaker 2>every ten students. So like say you have a room

938
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 2>of one hundred people, there'd be ten healers in the

939
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:45.079
<v Speaker 2>back of the chair in front of them. When everybody

940
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 2>anybody's getting like over ant or feeling groggy and just

941
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:53.599
<v Speaker 2>getting out of third dimension. I'd sit up there and

942
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>teach and then say hey, you go to the back.

943
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 1>So they'd get it. What a reiki treatment or some

944
01:03:59.039 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of.

945
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Just body energy type treatment. Yeah, it's the It's a

946
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 2>technique they teach a Lilydale in New York that Jerry

947
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:12.639
<v Speaker 2>learned and anybody could do it. It's wonderful technique just

948
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:16.039
<v Speaker 2>getting somebody, Okay, you're on the version going out to

949
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 2>what God knows where, Let's get back in here and

950
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:23.760
<v Speaker 2>let's balance it. And it is like breaking Yeah, working

951
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:24.280
<v Speaker 2>with energy.

952
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, let's let's continue on. We're at number seven. We

953
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 1>want to give everybody a sense of the eight and

954
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 1>nine too.

955
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 2>So the eighth dimension is the realm of light, and

956
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>this is where you get into the light being so

957
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.679
<v Speaker 2>intense that we here we read in the Bible that

958
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 2>people can't get anywhere near it because it can blind them.

959
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 2>And the light is the manifestation of the divine or

960
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 2>God consciousness or God whatever. It doesn't really matter how

961
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 2>anybody defines this. The fact is that the eighth dimension

962
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:04.719
<v Speaker 2>is to that holds us in contact with divine consciousness.

963
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And when we're in effective conscious divine consciousness, we tend

964
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to be very ethical. We tend to be worried loving,

965
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 2>We tend to be worried giving. This is like moving

966
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the human into being a moral, ethical, significant giving person

967
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 2>versus dog down at the local table. And so the eighths.

968
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 2>But the what the eighth dimension is so interesting to

969
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 2>me because the eighth dimension is a download location for

970
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the ninths dimension, which is time and what's going on

971
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in the night dimension. And this is what I didn't

972
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 2>understand until I completely revised this edition in terms of

973
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 2>getting the Knight's dimension right, that the Cosmos is constantly

974
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:57.519
<v Speaker 2>downloading like like teachings and programs for people to work with,

975
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 2>into the light, and then the light transmutes into sound,

976
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 2>and the energy that affects us as humans starts to

977
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:11.679
<v Speaker 2>become palpable as the sound creates geometry and then creates

978
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 2>the open heart. So you can go either way. One

979
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 2>of the things we do in teaching these techniques is

980
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.800
<v Speaker 2>you can go up and you can come back down.

981
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 2>You can be in the time zone and the Mayan calendar. Okay,

982
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the answer is what did happen in twenty eleven twenty twelve,

983
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.159
<v Speaker 2>And the person who actually nailed that was Carl Colmon

984
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.559
<v Speaker 2>because Carl, Yes, Carl's The reason I wrote a book

985
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:44.519
<v Speaker 2>about Carl is that he wrote developed a system based

986
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:49.639
<v Speaker 2>on the Mayan calendar that analyzes sixteen billion years of

987
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:54.639
<v Speaker 2>time in the universe and then it eventually moves into

988
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:58.679
<v Speaker 2>evolution because like, sixteen billion years ago, we didn't have

989
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 2>any evolution on our planet. But then if we go

990
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 2>back four billion years ago when the Earth started becoming

991
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 2>an organic home, we start to see the cycles of evolution.

992
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:15.719
<v Speaker 2>So I felt that Carl's work was very important because

993
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.039
<v Speaker 2>the big mysterious question is how could the minds have

994
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:25.119
<v Speaker 2>known in five hundred BC that our reality was going

995
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to crash in twenty twelve? And what is that crash?

996
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 2>And this is where Carl is so important. Carl said,

997
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:38.880
<v Speaker 2>in this system that Carl developed is based on the

998
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Coba stell, which is a stella in my land that

999
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.119
<v Speaker 2>goes back. It has sixteen billion years of data on it.

1000
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 2>In other words, kill the data from way before anybody

1001
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.800
<v Speaker 2>was even around her, if you get my drift. But

1002
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 2>what Carl said was Carl said that we were going

1003
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:04.159
<v Speaker 2>through time accelerations. And with these time accelerations and people

1004
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.559
<v Speaker 2>are just going to have to look at the book

1005
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 2>because it's complicated.

1006
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, we don't true what he said.

1007
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Because of his diagram, it was pretty easy to figure out.

1008
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But I found teaching it was really easy and people

1009
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:20.199
<v Speaker 2>understood it. But what Carl said was time acceleration ends

1010
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:24.600
<v Speaker 2>October twenty eight, twenty eleven. That's what that big twenty

1011
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 2>eleven date is all about. And I think the other

1012
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:32.560
<v Speaker 2>date of December twenty first, twenty twelve, is also just

1013
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:37.119
<v Speaker 2>as important. But I did notice that something very strange

1014
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 2>was going on under twenty twelve. It was like suddenly

1015
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:42.680
<v Speaker 2>it was like suddenly or am I in a dream

1016
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.640
<v Speaker 2>or in the real world? It was a very very

1017
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:49.000
<v Speaker 2>strange year. And then guess what happened in our family

1018
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 2>at the end the twenty twelve date December twenty first,

1019
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:57.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, the end of the mind calendar. Granddaughter was

1020
01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:01.560
<v Speaker 2>born when the sun was rising on December twenty first,

1021
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:05.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve. Wow, so our family, something really did happen.

1022
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And I don't We'll see what that means over time.

1023
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you finish with the ninth dimension? Are we there? Night?

1024
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.840
<v Speaker 2>To mention is the Mayan calendar and the time codes,

1025
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and then there's a tense to mention is a vertical

1026
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 2>axis the first dimension below you, going all the way

1027
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:27.920
<v Speaker 2>through your body and all the way through the top

1028
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 2>of your head at times. And then there's an eleventh

1029
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:37.199
<v Speaker 2>and a twelfth dimension. And fortunately somebody just came out

1030
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 2>with the book that takes us through twelve and so

1031
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I could mention now shows the author is Joshua Reichmann.

1032
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 2>He's a Canadian teacher and his book is called The

1033
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Realized Light of Twelve Dimension and that one just came out.

1034
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 2>So we're moving, you know, we're still do Let's just

1035
01:09:57.319 --> 01:09:57.800
<v Speaker 2>stop me.

1036
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to help my listener who are going nine dimensions?

1037
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:08.720
<v Speaker 1>How the hell do I access them? I mean, obviously, well,

1038
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.399
<v Speaker 1>well hang on. So the thing is we want people

1039
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.239
<v Speaker 1>to buy the book, of course, but those who are

1040
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>are challenged, and I don't know. Did you do an

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<v Speaker 1>audible version of the new book.

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<v Speaker 2>Once coming out? I heard I didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'd love to have that because somebody I can't

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01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 1>read it. It's too much to read.

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01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Some people really need that.

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01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I guess if you're physical and you

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01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge these dimensions, do you automatically on some level pass

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01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 1>through them or do they become you? Or do you

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01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:42.279
<v Speaker 1>have to do work?

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01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to work. That's one of the things

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01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:50.319
<v Speaker 2>that I really believe in this. I'm a typical indigenous

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01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:55.119
<v Speaker 2>ceremonial people person. What gives people to tune in to

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01:10:55.239 --> 01:11:02.079
<v Speaker 2>different levels and different dimensions is to play on this planet.

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01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:07.560
<v Speaker 2>People do theater, people do plays, people do music. People

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01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 2>create ceremonies that go through different levels, and of course,

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01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.800
<v Speaker 2>in our case, we created a ceremony that takes you

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01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 2>through on nine to ten levels. That's what those workshops

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01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 2>were all about. But the important thing Cliff is that

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01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 2>what we've done is the diagrams for how to do

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01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 2>this are in the book. Then on my website there's

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<v Speaker 2>a seven or eight page file that tells you how

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<v Speaker 2>to conduct an activation wonderful, Yeah, beginning to end. And

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<v Speaker 2>lots of people have been doing this way back as

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<v Speaker 2>far as two thousand and four. Over the years, people

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01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:48.319
<v Speaker 2>get four or five friends together and one person leads

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01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.439
<v Speaker 2>an activation, or people get group together.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really fun and it's not good. Nobody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to get That's why I wrote those novels, because people

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01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 2>like to read fiction. It's novels to have sex and

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01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 2>love affairs in them and all kinds of all those dimensions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, and so then that's also so. Now

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01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:16.239
<v Speaker 2>at this point, you have the music, you have the diagrams,

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01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you have the explanation. It's time people are going to say, oh,

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01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>when's fire, We're going to come around and do another activation. Well,

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01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm maybe one years old and I've done that for

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01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty I can't. I can't do it anymore. I'm at

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01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.279
<v Speaker 2>a state, by the way, More importantly, I'm at a

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01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:37.720
<v Speaker 2>state of deed and deep conversation almost all day on

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01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm working with meditations.

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<v Speaker 1>What terms you use, not to say decomposition, you said

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01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>something else. I'm in a state of.

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<v Speaker 2>What of meditation? I'm very deep meditation with the dimensions,

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01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.439
<v Speaker 2>and Jerry and I may find some way to work

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01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:57.560
<v Speaker 2>with students. We think about that a lot right now,

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01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:59.399
<v Speaker 2>and then we have to move in a.

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01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Couple of months. Oh god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I know, right in the middle of the heavy promo,

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01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 2>we are I know, but.

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01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel for that. But I want you to comment

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01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:19.079
<v Speaker 1>real quickly as we come to the conclusion of our

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01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>time together. I've had a number of Indian stages on

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01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the program, and also people who are experts where they

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01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.520
<v Speaker 1>claim to be experts on the Yugas. It looks like

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01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 1>the previous epoch, the Treatia Yuga was a being homo

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01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:42.199
<v Speaker 1>sapien sapien that could see beyond the physical. And it

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01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 1>seems to me that these nine dimensions were easily accessed

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01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:52.439
<v Speaker 1>or utilized, probably beyond the nine by these people who

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01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:56.680
<v Speaker 1>were demi gods. It's the closest thing I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see us coming? Is that what's going on

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01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 1>right now is that we're entering, we're leaving this current

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01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Yuga cycle and moving into the more higher wisdom sites,

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01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:17.920
<v Speaker 1>which sites periods where we can, by thinking, pull in

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01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:22.880
<v Speaker 1>these energies and activate them.

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01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:27.800
<v Speaker 2>After teaching for fifty years, I've seen so many levels

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01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 2>opening up that I'm obviously certain that we're right on

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01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the edge of a very big major awakening where suddenly

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01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:38.600
<v Speaker 2>people are just going to find these things are coming

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01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to them the way it did to me. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I say that the business prologe. First of all,

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01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 2>at this point, Pluto into Aquarius a couple of days ago,

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01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be there until twenty forty four. So we're

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01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 2>going to have twenty years now of Pluto Inaquarius opening

1114
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 2>the Aquarian age, and then this like in March, April

1115
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.199
<v Speaker 2>and May of twenty twenty five, only a few months

1116
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:12.159
<v Speaker 2>from now, we're going to have the planet Saturn, which

1117
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 2>rules structure and form and making things happen, is moving

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01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.760
<v Speaker 2>out of Pisces and into areas. And when Saturn is

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01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:26.760
<v Speaker 2>in Pisces, Saturn is very uncomfortable in Prices because Pisces

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01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.000
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't want to bother of getting all this stuff done.

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01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.520
<v Speaker 2>And so when Saturn moves into this area in cycle,

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01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 2>this is another twenty nine year cycle of building a

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01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:42.319
<v Speaker 2>new structure and new form, and then more significantly, planet

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01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Neptune has been in Pisces. Now Neptune rules Pisces, so

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01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that means it's like same sign. It's been in Pisces

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. And it's so

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01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.840
<v Speaker 2>interesting because at that point that's when everything became Nebula

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01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:04.479
<v Speaker 2>of Siege is known for creating just kind of inebulais, Oh, well,

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01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't really need to bother with this any just

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01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.840
<v Speaker 2>relax for a while. And so with those two planets, now,

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01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Saturn's only been in prices for two and a half years,

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01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>but never June's been in Pi Seis since twenty eleven,

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01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, and it goes into areas when basically when

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01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Saturn goes into areas, the exact conjunction of the two

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01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.800
<v Speaker 2>planets in areas is actually in twenty twenty six. But

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01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.279
<v Speaker 2>basically what's going to happen is anybody who thinks they're

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01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:34.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to just sit in their seat

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01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and be normal and make everything always be the way

1139
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:42.119
<v Speaker 2>it was, forget it not gonna happen. We're going to

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01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 2>be experienced with such a monumental level of change and

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01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 2>action and movement, and judging by how things have been,

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01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:54.840
<v Speaker 2>especially for me the last ten to fifteen years, we've

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01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 2>have changed. We just have to we have to move it.

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01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 2>And then of course the ends and the ending of

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01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the Collie Yuga has been called by a Indian scholar

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01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and mystic. His name is bi Wu dev Misra, one

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01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of those Indian names, and his book just came out.

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01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.239
<v Speaker 2>This is all happening, just like Alchemy of nine Dimensions

1149
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 2>finally went to a level of perfection right now. Well,

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01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 2>bi Wu, after years and years of resoot, Sir published

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01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:28.399
<v Speaker 2>The Yuga Shift.

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01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I had him on the show. It's a wonderful book.

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01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh you had him all cool?

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01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what an amazing book show to me. I'll

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01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:41.840
<v Speaker 1>email you the the interview. Okay, I support him.

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01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just say I got it right away because

1157
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.199
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, somebody told me.

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01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a master works, a master.

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01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Work, and it's it's hard to read it. It is

1160
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:54.800
<v Speaker 2>because you're going to get a sense of what's really

1161
01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:59.199
<v Speaker 2>action going to be happening. But it's all going to

1162
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:02.000
<v Speaker 2>be okay. The only thing that can happen is I

1163
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 2>might go out of body a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but the thing I'm curious about in the United States,

1165
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the kids are running the machine. Now we have the

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01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:14.920
<v Speaker 1>children running the machine, and that's a big deal. Wasn't

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01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 1>one body, all three bodies are now running the machine?

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01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And I for a while I was like, Okay, this

1169
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:28.720
<v Speaker 1>is what you want, So we released to your whatever

1170
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 1>level judgment is going on.

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01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>It's really easy because who wants Joe Biden to be

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01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:35.159
<v Speaker 2>running everything?

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01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:40.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so thrilled to see the younger generations coming

1175
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.840
<v Speaker 2>into power, and that's been a big resistance, hasn't it.

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01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Just it was incredible to me to see all these

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01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:49.920
<v Speaker 2>old excuse me farts just continue o where they don't belong.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fun in some ways, but and the

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01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:57.920
<v Speaker 1>other way. The Republicans are young souls and so they

1180
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>tend to bring a great possible abilities. But again, there

1181
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be on a in a driving mode

1182
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:11.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's it's a it's a student driver, you know

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01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So you know there's some scary days ahead.

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01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:18.359
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:21.560
<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that the United States is it

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01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:24.399
<v Speaker 2>has come to the end of a whole phuto cycle.

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01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 2>A few years ago, our country himself is in the

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01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:33.319
<v Speaker 2>spotlight rock right now in terms of disintegrating and needing

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01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to change. But it will I I.

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01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:39.439
<v Speaker 1>I whole out hope. In fact, I kind of.

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01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.439
<v Speaker 2>Want Jerry to put his face here and say hi,

1192
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.000
<v Speaker 2>because he's the partner. He just walked in the door.

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01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, where come and say hi to clipt Down

1194
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and you haven't seen him in yours.

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01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jerry, how you doing, buddy? Did you guys have

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01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a good interview? Not done yet, so great to see you.

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01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:03.079
<v Speaker 1>You' fantastic you two. That's nice.

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01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting Thanksgiving dinner together for you know, Dade's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday. I didn't know.

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01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was the cook today.

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01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:13.640
<v Speaker 1>But hey, as we conclude, Barbara, I want you to

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01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:17.279
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit. In your book, you have describes

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01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the different you describe the different activations, and the one

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01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about is the crop circles because they come

1205
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere and now the complexity. You can't have

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01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:38.159
<v Speaker 1>these things being faked because they're so complex that there's

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01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>no way for him to do it. But talk a

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01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:44.279
<v Speaker 1>bit about the meaning of the crop circles and what

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01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they are, what the data is about.

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01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:54.079
<v Speaker 2>The crop circles became really active just abroout the time

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01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 2>when alchemy of nine dimensions and creating agenda came in,

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01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and so I really resonate with crop circles. And I

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01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:07.640
<v Speaker 2>was a crop circle researcher in basically the nineteen nineties,

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01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and so while I was working with crop circle researchers,

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01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I discovered that I could create images for the crop

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01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:19.960
<v Speaker 2>circle lakers to make, and then I developed a technique

1217
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:24.640
<v Speaker 2>for sending the information to the circle lakers, and then

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01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:26.920
<v Speaker 2>within a few days they appeared in the fields.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is that good. I don't want to

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01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>hear that about what it is.

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01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a great example of how any one of us

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01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:36.439
<v Speaker 2>could be in touch with all these dimensions if we

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01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>tend to do that. And so I was working a

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01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:43.800
<v Speaker 2>lot with John Michelle, and John Michelle's not with us

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01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 2>any orbit. He and I had a lot of fun

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01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and Jerry sitting around in pubs talking about working with

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01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:56.199
<v Speaker 2>the circle makers. John really like drink beer. And so

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01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the tenth and eleventh chapter have a very detailed exponent

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01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:03.399
<v Speaker 2>of what I was doing, how it works, and most

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01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:08.079
<v Speaker 2>importantly explaining how the circles are actually made and it's

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01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.199
<v Speaker 2>right in the book, and of course you can be

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01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:12.760
<v Speaker 2>sure that almost nobody's going to pay an attention to

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01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:16.319
<v Speaker 2>it because so outrageous. Yeah, but I had it verified.

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Andrews is one of the top researchers, and he

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<v Speaker 2>verified it by coming to one of the times when

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<v Speaker 2>I created circles images for circles.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>There, and you know I stand on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The books call Alchemy of the Nine Dimensions. It's the

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01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>twentieth edition. My guess today has been Barbara Hanklow, and

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01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you got to get this book. It's kind of a

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01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.760
<v Speaker 1>prelude to what's happening. It's always a good reach. He's

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01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:48.039
<v Speaker 1>a really, really good author, so be sure to check

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01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>it out. Barbara, give us a sense of how we

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01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>can get ahold of you.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the website and HA and D like your hand

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<v Speaker 2>plow clow twenty twelve dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>What I do on that besides lots of information like

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<v Speaker 2>how to conduct activations and your interview will be on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I do an analysis of all four seasons, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>working on the Winter Solstice right now. So if people

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe to it, nobody pays anything, nothing, you'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>seasonal of reading every every three months.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what are you doing any video? I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a YouTube channel where you're actually posting

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<v Speaker 1>your zoom pre material at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, these youtubes go on the website. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you mean. I'm not techie at all, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I'm not on any it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A form of social media. You can have a YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>I stay away from all of it on your website.

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<v Speaker 2>The website, yeah, because if I went on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be the end of you doing any more work.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara, as always, A pleasure to see you, and much

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<v Speaker 1>luck on this good book, on this new book, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a good book. And thank you so much. A

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you for having me. Pleasure to see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we mentioned at the early stage of that

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<v Speaker 1>interview that the attention deficit disorders that we are manifesting

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<v Speaker 1>through the use of our iPhones and apps like TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and all these games and everything that takes us away

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<v Speaker 1>from natural thinking and relaxing and meditating is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really a problem. And I've always said to activate

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<v Speaker 1>and to be a part of these subtled energies. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn to meditate or quiet your mind. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have to be in a class to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to meditate. I strongly urge people to go to

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<v Speaker 1>transidental meditation taught by the or designed by the former

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<v Speaker 1>Yogi Maharishi mesh Yogi, and it's a powerful technique and

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<v Speaker 1>you really can sense when you are very very deep,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go to sleep, you're shifting into a different

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<v Speaker 1>level of consciousness. And when you have a meditative practice,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually get a sense of these dimensions. You

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<v Speaker 1>can actually work with them. Not in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the Akashyak records, remember the Akashak records.

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<v Speaker 1>We still haven't had a solid explanation from many of

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<v Speaker 1>the authors that we've interviewed about this dimension how to

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<v Speaker 1>access it. You know, it's all kind of imaginary, but

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know you're in When you meditate, you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel the changes, you can feel the shift, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think some form of meditation is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>important to get into the nine dimensions. So that's just

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<v Speaker 1>my two cents worth, And do arch on Google, do

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<v Speaker 1>a search with your favorite search engine for meditative techniques.

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<v Speaker 1>Meditative practices that allow you to go deep to quiet

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<v Speaker 1>the mind, quiet the brain, quiet the noise, and allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to sense these other dimensions, because that's where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to access them and get the benefits. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>of the belief that a lot of this happens naturally

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<v Speaker 1>for us. If you're a physical being. For the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to your physical so you're getting bombarded by

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<v Speaker 1>these frequencies that are automatically evolving your sense of awareness. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how you choose to use this information is something entirely different.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about that, and I think it's outlined

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<v Speaker 1>in the book. But most of the time, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>greater perception, greater ability to connect with nature, your felt human,

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<v Speaker 1>your fellow earthling, and to take this energy in and

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<v Speaker 1>then use it as you need. Use it to inspire yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>use it for healing, use it for a Barber talked

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal about this trauma that we all have

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<v Speaker 1>in our system, this catastrophic trauma that we all went through,

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<v Speaker 1>our ancestors went through, that's been handed down, this earth

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<v Speaker 1>bombardment that Randall Carlson talks about, and Graham is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>presenting it on ancient apocalypse, So there you go. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>some form of meditation might be a benefit. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that we do have some tours coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. Easter Island is one. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>in Turkey June, the end of June for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the fit stages of that, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>go see that probably within two weeks on Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>dot com Forward slash tours Turkey again with Delma and

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<v Speaker 1>Sabaturs that's Mohammad Imbrahem and his wife Noha. Our final

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<v Speaker 1>tour of the year is going to be in Guatemala

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<v Speaker 1>Day of the Dead twenty twenty five. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>with an archaeologist, but I'm thinking right now working with

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<v Speaker 1>someone new who's very very good on the energy side

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<v Speaker 1>of it, so we all can tap into these tolleric

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<v Speaker 1>fields that are emanating from the pyramids. So that's three tours.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably gonna be it because I need

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<v Speaker 1>to get this book done for next year. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have any questions about any of our tours, send me

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<v Speaker 1>an email sent it to Earth Ancients the number four

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<v Speaker 1>the letter you at gmail dot com, and I promise

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to you on any of your inquiries.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Three tours for twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Island Repinui, Turkey in June, and then in October

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<v Speaker 1>will be in Guatemala. So these are great tours, are

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<v Speaker 1>great fun. So consider that. All right, that's it for

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<v Speaker 1>this program today. I want to thank my guest today,

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara Hancloud, coming to us from New Mexico. As always

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<v Speaker 1>the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>makes this thing happen. Thank you all right, take care,

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<v Speaker 1>be well, and we will talk to you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Col
