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to the hot line. Welcome in the six foot three,
two hundred and fifty pounds d ND linebacker out of
Brigham Young University, originally originally from the Great State of Wyoming,
NFL VET Super Bowl champion. We got Brady Popinga on
the Live b Pop How you live in?
Speaker 1: What's up? Guy's always found to jump on?
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk ball with you. B Why
you gets the win? Forty one twenty seven Who do
you give your game balls to? Like from a player's
standpoint and a coaching staff standpoint, who do you give
your game ball to?
Speaker 3: In this game?
Speaker 1: Well? I mean, obviously on the offense, there was just phenomenal,
you know. I mean, how many people question his throwing
ability just because he wore number forty seven, or just
because he's as big as a linebacker, or just because
he is a physical runner. It was quite crazy and
I couldn't believe it, Ben because first saw him throw
the ball, got timing, his patient, the accuracy where he's
zipping it into the tire windows. This guy could he
could throw the ball. He's really good, you know, and
it was really fun to see him put that to action.
And then I'll top have to give both Chase and
Parker a ton of credit. Oh uh yeah, those are
two top guys. This one I'll just make a big
catches for him. You know, Parker had that goal line
there where he basically told it, you know, stole that
out of the hands of I think it was a safety.
And then you know, Chase is just constantly being that
like really consistent for him getting open in all different
varieties lands, back, shoulder face and it's but the passing
was so so impressive by defense by the way that
they're gonna dare you to have to sip it into
tight corners have to manipulate safeties to move them away
so that you could throw it behind him. And Bear
was doing that game and obviously he didn't have any
turnovers to account for it, which that's the key. So
you got to give him the ball man. That's like
from the offensive standpoint, and then the second runner up,
i'd say, is the receivers. And then I think you
always have the fortunately always acknowledge that offensive line is man.
They are as tough, as smart, as greedy of an
offensive line that we've ever had. Deep too. You know,
we got six seven guys not in social media, by
six seven really legit guys that can play and play well.
I mean, you got to coach Wood's a lot of credit.
But you really can't talk about there. You can't talk
about the receivers without even you know, understanding the overarching
influence of their especially when LJ goes down and now
they have to get some tough yards with one hundred
and ninety five pound pressed wrecks. You're really not meant
to be a featured back. And they're able to do
it on some key downs. They're not to say, we're
able to pound the ball per se without LJ. But
that offensive line has been just been on the defensive side,
you know, obviously, I think the secondary, I think is
this whole year has been the best segment of our
whole defense, not giving up big plays, being extremely competitive
on thefty fifty balls. But the biggest thing are these
huge game changing interceptions, some of them for touchdowns, some
of them are just timely and they're the outcome of
the game. And so I would say, the secondary on
the defense and then offense, you give it to the Bear,
but you got you can't, like I said, you can't
really give it to him without acknowledging the offensive line.
And then secondary would be with Parker and Chase.
Speaker 2: All right, b pop, But where who do you give
your game called game ball to? As far as the
coaching staff is concerned.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, Klawney is obviously the main
figure here. You know, he's put this whole thing together.
He has engineered it. You know, he's the guy. When
they moved to the Big twelve, it's like, Hey, we
have to go build the best coaching staff I possibly
could build. Brings in j Hill. He's a former head coach.
Who's man, I'm scared. I think he's going to get
some big offer here in the offseason, on which I
hope it's not. I hope, I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope he's here with us like the next ten
years at least, you know. And then he gets just
and he gets my brother Cioni Pouha comes in from Utah.
I think Gary Anderson comes down. You know, the offensive
side of the ball. You got to shot the offensive
lot of coach going to Woods. Retain SESSI retained Roderick,
you know Harvey, you know Gennaro. You just can keep
going down these guys. I mean, this is such an
all star cast and I just can't say enough. How
when I am embedded with these guys like like like
they give me such access, which is unbelievable because they
know I'm going to talk to you guys. They know,
they listen. They come up and they comment on our
statement all the time, guys, and they still don't care
like they and I think it's trusting me that I'm
not going to say things that are first inaccurate and
secondly obviously that give them a competitive disadvantage. But I
think they appreciate the arty being and the honest to goodness.
Reality of them is they are the most cohesive coaching
stuff I've ever been around NFL college in terms of
no egos, constantly engaged in how, hey, what's the best
practice for our team, what's the best for us, what's
the best for our players? And it's it's a beautiful
thing to be a part of. That's why I's like,
you know, it's like with Jay, it's like, man, I
just trobably freaking like somebody LSU is gonna come to
and say, Hey, they're gonna give you a ten million
dollars a year for the next five years. You obviously
your James, you can't pass that up. But it's like
you just love to keep those guys around because of
how you know special they are as a group. And again,
like I said, the guy who has orchestrated at all
has been clumped, you know. And then on top of it, Kelly,
he's been to you know what I mean, to put
himself in front of the room. You know. I was
reminded by coach at or not Ed Lamb, but by
coach Barry Lamb last week or two weeks ago when
I saw him leading up to the Utah game that
he had Kelly and other guys. I think you were there,
Ben get up and do special team segments and stuff,
and it's like, well, no, wonder why Kelly has become
such the coach he has. You know, he's already kind
of been training when he was playing, you know. And
and like we've mentioned already with special teams being such
a huge part of their success over the last two years,
and they're run so far. I mean, that's just you know,
you got to Kelly a lot of credit, you know, so,
I mean it's and then Roberts, I just can't say
enough about him, guys. I mean, true freshman you're freaking
all star workhorse running back goes down on a defense
by the way that has not their strength, is not
stopping the run, and now you have to go and
throw the ball all over the yard with the true
freshman quarterbacks, and he does it awesome. I just I mean,
Roderick is just he has answered the call. I mean
so many times in ways that people just got to
start sitting back and enjoying what they're seeing because this
is not normal. You don't get a true look at Michigan.
I think that it was like a good call, highly
highly rated kid, true freshman. If you watch him throw
the ball or run, I mean extreme inconsistency. You know,
he either struggles in one thing or struggles in the other,
doesn't get settled in. Bear's a go plat often now
Bear special. Don't get me wrong, you gotta get credit
to the player. But the fact that he's being put
in the position to thrive, that's Roderick, you know, and
all his staff, and you just can't say enough about him. So, yeah,
the coaching has been really good, you know, really really good.
And like I said, I think it's been a special
group and you're seeing the fruit. So that as we
speak right.
Speaker 2: Now, truly remarkable to watch the creative ways in which
b Yu's winning. A lot of people feel that there's
some sort of divine intervention it's allowing b YU to
win games.
Speaker 3: How do you see it? How is b WHYU eight?
Speaker 2: No, people just keep on there like they're not giving
any credit to be why You're like, how are they winning?
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be winning in these games?
Speaker 1: Well, I laugh because you know, and I'm gonna shout
out to my second counsel, and the stigma it's also
at John said, Will mention that, you know, like in
the weather delay at Arizona, He's like, yeah, Brandy, I
heard that they're reading the scriptures and I was like, John,
that's the reason why they won the game right there.
You know, one in reality, you know, it's God doesn't
care who wins. You know, God is in fact wanting
to everybody to go out and and and live out
their best selves, be an expression of who you already are.
You know, that's that's God's and for us all. We
all have divinity within us and the challenge of mortality
is that make that manifest in our mortal lives. And
that's the same goes for the field of play, you know,
and it's a little different in football. People don't realize
that when you're out there playing with this edge and
the competitive feistiness and violence and you're stacking dudes in
the phase and you're pulling them up, Yes, well, that
is an expression of your divinity against what their best
is and their divinity. And it's meant to be that way.
It's meant to challenge each other because you're expecting the
same out of your opponent. You're expecting them if you're
in a position that's not sound if you're out of
position that they're going to blow you up in the
same way and shoot to the same violent rigor of competition.
That's what it's about. So God doesn't care. You know,
who grows the new wins and loses. But at the
end of the day, our guys are resilient, they're competitive.
And the biggest thing that I really noticed it was
last year, is the core of this team loves to play.
They'd love it, they'd love to go out and compete.
And what happens was when you enjoyed the really difficult,
prickly uncomfortable parts of the journey, These games where you
pull a team to a place of discomfort that may
not enjoy the discomfort as much as you do, tend
to struggle more Like you saw if Iowa State, they
started to kind of implode. You know, you have that
ball ricochetff that players foot in the punt where we
get it back, miscoverages, some you know, holding calls, you know,
interceptions thrown, those kinds of things that ended up becoming
huge for us. And I do believe it's because these
guys love to play, and when they get into these
very highly competitive moments, they do not feel uncomfortable. They're
willing to grind, and they're willing to just kill them
and go through them. Where I think a lot of
players and people in general, when they get to uncomfortable
situations they kind of just want to rush through them
because they're so uncomfortable. I everybody, that's our natural response, Oh,
I got to get through this. I get back to
a place of comfort. In reality, we have to at
times when it's necessary, and when we're participating in sports,
our jobs, our families, there's going to be uncomfortable moments.
And those that are willing to be still in those
uncomfortable moments and know that they're for our good tend
to handle them a little bit better than those are
trying to rush through them. And we just have a
collective group of kids right now, and it's by the
leadership with client in that coaching staff that man, they're
willing to get to those a couple of moments and
grind there, grind, and then they poll teams there and
they see who's willing to stay there with us. It's
so far this year nobody's been willing to stay there.
Speaker 2: I want to get into the special teams component here,
because I do think it's an underrated, under heralded component
of football in general.
Speaker 3: Like, no one feels like that special teams wins football games.
Speaker 2: We typically focus on offense and or defense, right, Like,
I've never heard special teams win championships.
Speaker 3: Right, this is a complimentary football team, right.
Speaker 2: ESPN SP plus Advanced Analytics rates the offense twenty seventh
in the country, the defense fifteenth, but the special teams
unit at six in the country.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I have.
Speaker 2: Never seen in my oh man, how long have I
been watching football? You know, I mean we're talking over
like probably thirty plus years of me watching high level football.
And then you know, an additional I don't know how
many years of playing it. Anyway, I rarely have ever
see special teams as productive in creating turnovers. Number one,
that's an insane stat. How many turnovers we create on
punt cover and I maybe even kickoff cover too, because
we've probably forced some fumbles that I'm not recalling. And
then also on the flip side, how many kickoff returns
and punt returns for touchdowns and even flipping of the
field with punt.
Speaker 3: Return and kick return.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's elaborate on this a little bit like
I feel like we're creating momentum changes through special teams
that then turn into more touchdowns and more opportunities for
our offense.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the two bags, well three of the biggest examples.
Last three games with the Parker Kings's fund return against
Arizona to set up that tying touchdown, you got the
fumbled or the muff punt that Sam he just kicked
the you know, it was one of his dud punts,
but because of the way he punts the ball with
the Australian style, it had a forward had a forward rotation,
which that's what made the returner for Utah panic and
try to field it because he's trying to save field
position because he knows as soon as it hits it's
most likely going to roll towards his goal on and
so you know that's why he rushed it, try to
try to field it when he probably shouldn't have. And
then we get the fumble recovery. And then last week
we had a phenomenal recovery or excuse me, return by
Hagen that set up excell field position for either a
go ahead or a tying touchdown. Score that that shortened
the fielding. I did that obviously. You know that that
fumble that hits the kid's legs, which Clownie actually is
exactly right. That's exactly what Kelly teaches. Kelly teaches that. Hey,
if you've got guys that when the ball hits the
ground on the return team and we're covering and they're
not willing to get out of the way, because you're
supposed to spread like wildfire, You're literally supposed to run
the ops away. The ball was punting. But if guys
are going to stick around and you got you got
them locked up, push them right into the ball. And
that's exactly what their coach dought. A lot of people
look at it, Oh what a lucky play. No, no,
that's exactly what Kelly coaches. I'm really happy that Clanne
acknowledge that because it's true, you know, and so what
I what I shape it up to. And you can
call me bias or whatever. I don't really care. Kelly's
Kelly is the best special teams coach to coach. Okay,
I don't. I just think the words best special teams
coach sounds kind of crazy. But look at the stats,
look at what like you said, Like if we said, hey,
what because you had a ranking there of six, you know,
the top six. But if you really said what special
teams units have constantly, in a consistent manner make game
changing plays like the ones I just mentioned, I would
imagine we are by far ahead of any other team
in the country. And the way that Kelly does this
is Kelly has got an energy when he coaches that
he is both a he's a disciplinarian where he's going
to demand top effort, he's going to demand perfect execution,
he's going to demand what a lot of what we
would call old school strict coaches do, and he's going
to call you out. Kelly's not afraise, just like myself.
He's not afraid to speak truth. But the difference between
Kelly and myself is Kelly is very very likable in
doing so. I could be abrasive, he's not. And so
what that does is these kids respond to that, and
also it builds a sense of wanting to make the
team proud. Kelly does a nice job of accountability, not
to him at the coach, but to the team, you know,
to your teammates. So when you see those kids flying
down there. And that's to me, like, if just so
people can kind of look at how good is a
special team unit. Look at what happens. I'll kick off
when the ball goes through the end zone. If you
got guys running through the end zone in a frenzy,
high energy, and then I'll punt your gunners just flying
down there again high energy. Those are the two units
that really tell the story of what your special teams
units are about. What those are the defiance and those
moment and the commitment of that unit. They are fired
in a frenzy pace because it's for each other, and
that's what Kelly coaches. And then Kelly gets excellent support.
By the way, we cannot discredit this. I want everybody
to know this. Jay Hill is a former special teams coach.
His input is also tremendously impactful. I hope everybody knows that.
That's why I'm really scared Jay Hill's gonna get hired
away somewhere because somebody else I should say this, Okay,
Key Hill sucks everybody. Okay, anybody listens to me from LSU.
He's terrible. I can't believe he's unbelievable. God, yeah, I
should have said that. Yeah, I just I mean, I
can't speak enough about how good Jay Hill is too,
because he's also helping Kelly. But but Kelly's I mean,
Kelly is he gets in front of the team and
like I said, the way that he handles a room
full of men and how they respect him, and he
shows their mutual respect and it motivates them to play
for each other and play at a high levels, just
specially you know. And I loved watching like I'll never
forget then when I sat in the first one it
was two years ago, and I'm like, that's my younger brother,
you know, because I start having the memories of where
we were. He was Kelly, Kelly Belly, you know, and
the guy used to pick off, you know, here he
is he's just you know, a man, just a leader,
and these kids are responding to them. It's a beautiful
thing to see. And so yeah, you can't really discount
the SUSH teams. They've been phenomenal and a huge reason
why we're able to see where we're at. And they're
going to continue to be that way, by the way,
because that's that's these games are tight. Everybody's so close
in terms of talent. You have to have their differentiators,
and for us right now, special teams one of those differentiators.
Speaker 2: I wonder like if Jay were to get poach, which
is a it's a possibility, we all know that.
Speaker 3: I do think it's hard for big time donors.
Speaker 2: Look at everything that's occurred in college football thus far
this season. Big time schools, uh you know are run
now by big time donors, and they are very volatile
in and knee jerk reaction. I mean, look like Penn
State firing their coach absurd, even LSU and Brian Kelly,
even though I don't think it's a great fit. I mean,
come on, like, it's not like it's like he's a
bad football coach, right Like, this is insane and you're
just firing these guys in paying on fifty million. I
think it's very hard for donors to buy into a
defensive coordinator as their head coach representing their school right now.
Speaker 3: It's not sexy.
Speaker 2: It's not a sexy higher and I think that may
limit opportunities too, because the donors are making more of
these executive decisions. They are the front office, if you will,
of these college institutions right now.
Speaker 1: So you're right, you're right, and and let's hope they
think that way, you know, because if any of these
donors out there knew what I know of Jay, I
wouldn't even I wouldn't even be like questioning that at all,
Like he would be my number one guy. Like that's
how impressive he is, because he's he's beyond the ex's
and oh, although he's phenomenal x's and oh wise, but
just in terms of game management, in terms of motivational,
in terms of team unity, in terms of like he's
very like killing much like killing in the same way
where he has the ability to really hold guys account
or if you go to the practice, he's whipping dudes
left and right, but he does in a way that
they respect, and he does in the way that's positive
in the sense that he's not just doing it to
be annoying or just make noise. He's doing it because
he's putting them in position to make plays. And it's
almost like, hey, man, I just I just handed a
play that you want a silver player, and because you
chose to be out of position, you missed that play.
That's that's more of his spirit of what he's where
he's coaching from a player still that and that's why
they respond like I, like I said in the beginning,
the secondary has been one of the top the top
segment of our defense. And you know Jay in addition,
according to the defense, he also you know, he's he's
a safety's coach, which they've the huge you look at
all the big players or safeties have made it's been unbelievable.
But uh but yeah, you're right. The donors do make
most of the choices, and they are going to be
more very elementary football. I would call it more fag
football where they're looking at the tendencies. Oh you know
and McVay and this guy and that guy. Okay, yeah,
offensive coaches, let's do that, you know. When in fact,
if you really knew Jay, he would be you know,
and if they understood what it took to be a coach,
he would be number one on a lot of these
big lists. And I know, like I know James Franklin guys.
I mean, he coached with me when I was at
the Packers. You know, it's not like these guys are
just no namers that I have no idea. And I'm
just saying this because Jason are you know, buyu teams
like I know Jay versus Jane, and I know James
Frankle just got fired, but he's probably gonna be in
line to be, you know, the LSU coach because he's
an offensive coach like you mentioned. But Jay would run
circles around James Franklin as a head coach, just everybody does,
and I do. I hope you guys don't tweet that.
Can we can we just for for fun not tweet
that make that viral because you know you're gonna get
some donor that's going to be like, oh gosh, what
this guy? I got a look keeper to this, and
then they'll actually be like, oh, let's so sorry.
Speaker 2: Jay.
Speaker 1: I know you listen to the show, and I'm not
trying to like burst your like market bubble here, but
I'm just selfish. They hoping you stay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and so, but I do wonder like who
would be the DC who would be like the candidates
to fill those big shoes if he was to get poached.
I would be intrigued obviously with K Pop, Gary Anderson,
you know guys that are we.
Speaker 1: Talk about this. Let's let's let's not go there.
Speaker 3: I can't okay, all right, we're not even gonna go there.
Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, b Yu versus Ioways State though this
game personnel wise, who stood out to you? Who do
you want to give your game balls to? As far
as the players are concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, offensively, it's got to be there. I mean, you
have LJ. Go down. Who he's your offenses ran through
LJ since week one and everything's been a compliment, and
all of a sudden he goes down and now it's
all there, it's all bear Man, and all we got
is we've got Preston Rex Bless his heart. He does
a good job of being, you know, a fly sweep guy,
a screening screen guy. He's more of a you know,
on the edges kind of running back. He's not going
to be your feature back because he's too small, he's
one ninety five. But yet here we are. You know,
we got press and races are featured back and Bear.
If Bear goes out there and just dices up Iowa
State's defense, I mean so fun to watch because so
many people that think you can throw the ball, so
many people that think he was a pit pastor, but
in reality, this guy could sip it and he showed it.
You know against the defense, by the way, that is
a fair I think it's one of the top defenses
the pass efficiency in the country. Their their main weakness
is stoping the run. As a matter of fact, is
they so heavily focused on the top of the pass
with their you know, obsessive eight man drops, which I
think are just absurd. But Barrett made a pay for that.
But you always have to keep the overarching theme of
that offense with the offensive line again, had a phenomenal game.
We're tough, we're moving, guys were for the most part,
hitting their targets, stayed away from dumb penalties. Again, just
just a solid foundation, and we got six seven guys
that can play across that that offensive line too. And
then on the defensive side, I have to give it
to the secondary, most specifically the safety position. You know,
they had that big, big interception for the touchdown there,
and then you know they've been I think the most
the second I mentioned, the most consistent performers of all
three segments of our defense over the year. But they
really kept the city. Although we give us a big
touchdown to start with there, which is kind of a
funky deal, but they've more than made up with it
throughout the game. And so those were I been looking
at the highlight for our win.
Speaker 2: Love it great breakdown Brady Pepinga ladies and gentlemen, b
yus eight and no, they're in the top ten. And
can they stay humble, stay hungry, get healthy and be
Texas Tech on the road that's going to be their
biggest test of the season. But I always state was
no joke. That was sixty two thousand strong and a
good football team.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But you know Texas seconds playmakers on the edges
and their running backs good, they're all line solid. But yeah,
I mean they're going to go up against the most
talented team. It's a twenty five million dollar team, which
is good. It's good. Let's let's see what they're made of,
you know. And uh and their defensive stout, man, those
they got some big It's very interesting Ise Tech. You
to you for offense with Fike leaks, and they would
kind of I think, you know, they would give up
some things on the defense to to make sure their
offense was good. And so they were ever really known
to have strong defenses or real physical defenses. And I said,
this is the year first year that I've seen a
texta tech team that is absolutely physical from the inside out,
starting with their nose guards and the d tackles and
uh so, and they got an excellent passer for the
best of the country that we're gonna have to you know,
account for and uh and let's hope we get bear
back because the best way to stop these guys is
the run. Excuse me, lg back. And the best way
to stop these guys is rub the ball right down
the middle of that defense and wear them out trying
to stop the run. So and if not, I do
think we do have some depth at the running back
position that people don't realize. With good mooney, I also
think paying a walk on that's that pain sun big
stick runner, those guys could step in and get us
some tough yards if need to be. But we'll see
what Robert's got up sleep and we'll see what happened.
O Ye, I'm not sure you know if he's going
to be able to play or not. But but yeah,
I think I think we got some depth there that
hasn't been tapped into yet that could come in and
help them and help keep that you know, that strong
running power running game going to be the foundation of
what we do.
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