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Speaker 2: Welcome in to a brand new day. Up oh TV,

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T Bob Bland via Reale and hanging out with you today.

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We have collectively forced Jake to stay home. His body

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is i think shutting down after the extremities of the

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last couple of months in which he's been counsel wearing,

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constantly traveling. So here's to hoping that our guy Jake

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can shake it and feel a bit better. But what

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that means, It's like Rorshak tells the inmates in the jail,

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I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in

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here with me and Taylor for the next three hours.

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So you wanna you'rena have some fun YouTube at compas

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one of four five yearspn that's so you can hop

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in the body for YouTube chat. Yet all of your

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excellent takes off and uh yeah, we'll we'll yeah to

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them all. We have a very Uh, we have a

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great show playing today. Lock going on, gonna be a

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bit all over the place. We're gonna talk so football,

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We really are going to talk a little bit of everything.

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Is always a cause of a coach. Multi at eight

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thirty cannot wait for that. And at seven point thirty,

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who is a very special and important event going down

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be a good day here on ot B, Alandra, How

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are we feeling today?

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Speaker 4: I feel good. I'm so. Jake texted us this morning.

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I'm like, dude, it's literally the fact that you've been

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working yeah, his body seven days, like really. So my

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point saying that is that I feel like I can't

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catch up on rest from last week. So I can't

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even imagine Jake doing eight hours of radio for like

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four months straight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, every day. So it's it's it's it's definitely

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a lot five kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the five kids that he likes still somehow is

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an incredible father too.

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Speaker 2: As a uh, you know, thirty six year old. Yeah,

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wise elder.

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thought you were the wrong age? Is this the age

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that you thought you were?

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gained a year of my life, Like, yeah, that that

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don't know, Alds referencing I've spent a few months last

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year thinking I was already thirty six. And then I

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new people. And do you all ever do this in

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zoom meetings? You maybe google the person that you're talking to.

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this guy's Wikipedia and at thirty six years old, but

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he was born in eighty eight, and I was like,

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to be turning thirty seven, right, thirty six thirty seven

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feels like a bad jump, no dispecting a your thirty

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seven year olds. But as a wise thirty six year

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old dollar now Landra, I would say that life is

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like getting in the gym where if you were to

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binch three hundred pounds, you're gonna get crushed by it.

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that are hopefully at it incrementally, so you slowly but

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Speaker 2: That's why your first kid or whatever you feel completely overwhelmed.

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you're just getting them life muscles up. Dude. Yeah, Taylor,

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and it's because ESPN released their way too early All

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American Team for twenty twenty five and Lhuan's up with

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two names on there. I think, interestingly, they're not the

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names that you would maybe think, right. No garritt u

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Smeyer on that list, despite the fact that he opened

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first or second on almost every single Heisman odds list

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for another year in a bigger role with no Mason Taylor,

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that maybe he would be on that list. But no.

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shying away from expectations and what the expectations should be

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based on how the team is on paper. And I

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will continue to say if you don't make it next

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year to the playoffs can contend for a championship, then

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that you will. Because this team looks awesome. Think about that,

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you're returning a ton of guys offensively, and the two

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you added out of the portal. Nick Anderson coming in

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as a second team American wide receiver. He was hurt

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all of last year essentially, but as a freshman seven

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hundred and ninety eight yards, ten touchdowns, over twenty yards

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of catch, six to four massive body. Now for Nick

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grinding chemistry. Because you think about garrettnus s Meyer, he

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All American kick returner.

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first team All American returner.

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leads all active players with five kick return touchdowns. Okay,

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offensively as well. So now you add these two weapons

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red zone monster finished incredibly strong to the season himself,

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and we be relied upon even more next season. And

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the backfield. What you got Cayden Durham, a man who

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turned down millions of dollars from Oregon in the offseason.

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but they could be better than others. But as long

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as they hold up, this offense will be unstoppable. And

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able to take advantage of all of these weapons and

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put together an offense that can It's what did they

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I'll never forget it. It said, shoot for the moon.

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Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. Now,

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my older age, I realized that, well, frankly untrue. The

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moon is way closer than the stars. You're in if

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you're dying, way before you at ever retart. That's not

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the point, though, Okay, that the the the the the

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metaphor there is ye okay, maybe you not. You're not

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gonna live up to that nineteen billion, of course, because

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Speaker 3: But make that your goal. Everybody eats.

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Speaker 2: And see where you live. No, you maybe ask yourself

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care no smire you said, he said the top of

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the eyes with those wid on the All American team. Well,

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they named Kaid Klubnick first Team All American and arch

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first year starter that he's having to deal with. That

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it is this first year starting. As far as Club

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up the hype for Week one because Club Nick, who

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showed great growth last year. The receivers really came on

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at the end. Go watch the Texas Clemson playoff game.

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those freshman receivers and Clubnick we're doing to him at

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points in that game. You got a great challenge if

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you're this LSU defense, and if you're not smier this office,

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you better be ready week one because it is going

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to be a due or a quarterback and will potentially

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decide almost the entire season. The hype for this LSU

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game is going to reach a fever pitch unseen. I

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me wrong. The FS two games were a big deal,

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the USC game big brands, but I don't think any

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of them or at least well, I guess as you

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ended up featuring the talent even though we didn't know

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the time. But this is going to be an elite

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opening game with Clemson and Cave Club Nick and Garrett

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Nasmeyer and all the weapons on both to everybody going

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toe to toe and so much in the line for

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both coaches. So the offseason begins today and it's a

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very important spring coming up for the LSHOP football team

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to start to develop these weapons. And I said, get

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chemistry and trust. That word is going to be critical

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for Anderson shar any of these new guys, Barry get

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that trust by Garrett Smeier. And the only way that

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when we get back here on off the bench, let's

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let's go ahead a little bit of LSU baseball. As

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starting pitchers in the country, I say, let's look at

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the top thirty maybe and kind of see how the

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the biggest question mark with this LSU baseball team. Keep

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Speaker 1: It's fine, it's cool.

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Speaker 2: You can say enough.

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Speaker 7: Sort of.

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Speaker 1: It's off the bench with Hester and t Bob Gosh,

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I don't want to call it. You don't want to

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call it.

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Speaker 2: You want to, Taylor, you want to kiss one hundred

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boys and bars, I'll do it right there along with you. Okay,

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that you too, Launder, we could all kiss a collective

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hundred or one hundred each. Part of that, I believe,

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whatever y'all want to do.

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Speaker 4: What's one hundred divided by three.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three point three repeated? Of course that's a lot.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of boys, boys to go through. Yeah,

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it's a lot of boy I don't even think I

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could do that in a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: So that's a you could kiss thirty three point three.

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Speaker 3: Kiss it.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think I'm halfway there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. I mean I'm not saying you have to.

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I'm saying if you wanted to, you could. That's not

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that's not the that's not the issue. Now, if you

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want to. I mean, look, if Bonnie could do what

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she's been doing out here, I think I think you

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could kiss thirty three guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know if I want to be on

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her level.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, you don't, I know, you know. I'm

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just saying like, it's like the five minute mile. Yeah,

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Banister runs the sub five minute mile, and then all

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of a sudden everybody can do.

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Speaker 4: It, right I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're right.

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Speaker 5: It takes away the special notes for Bonnie.

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Speaker 4: If everybody's doing it, yeah, Bonnie, then nobody's Bonnie.

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Speaker 2: True. But hey, she was the first of that wall.

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You know, sometimes you gotta.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that, Lily girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah there is one there. Oh yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That's that's the other right, It's it

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is a it's it's a race.

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Speaker 5: It's like, uh, what do you call it? Joey Chestnut

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and Kobeashiever way we need which actually actually better. What

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they do is not dogs.

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Speaker 2: Not you know, not not dissimilar to be uh to

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be fair. Uh oh guys. Okay, So l SU Baseball

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opened up this Friday. We're gonna talk to Jay Johnson

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tomorrow and I want to know, I want to know

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what what do you all think is maybe the biggest

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question mark with this l s U team, and in

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light of last year, is it too reductive or simple?

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And all my baseball takes are laymen and simple and dumb.

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But that's fine. I just you know, I like it.

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I'm not saying that I'm an expert, But is it

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too reductive just to say that it's the staff? Uh?

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Because and maybe you want to zoom in further if

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you're like, well, I don't know about the middle releave,

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I don't know who's gonna be the closer, I don't

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know who's can be disorders. But like I know, J.

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Johnson is going to get offensive production. You have so

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many weapons. That's where his specialty lies. And so for me,

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it's like I can't shake the insecurity created by last

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year right enter the year hyping up the staff so much.

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Start is gonna be awesome. You have more arms and

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you know what to do with and then suddenly halfway

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through you felt like you had a dearth of arms,

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you couldn't find any. And so that's where my head's

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when I think about question marks. The biggest question marks

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that I need answered is what is this staff gonna

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look like? First do you agree? And then would you

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zoom in further on a specific portion of the staff

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over another.

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Speaker 4: Are you asking us? Yes, so I would agree with

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you because of what you said of last year. But

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also if I were gonna zoom in, my question would

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be about the middle relief because we had great starters

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last season with Louke Coleman and Kate Anderson later down

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the line, But that middle relief is kind of where

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it started to fall apart a little bit, like you

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didn't really have somebody to bridge the gap between the

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closer and the starter. Yeah, so that's kind of where

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if I were to zoom in, where I would go

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with the pitching staff. Also I didn't, but a lot

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of people were questioning Nate Yesky last season. Yes, lot, Yeah,

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this is the season for you to prove yourself as

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a pitching coach because you have a highly rated staff

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right now, it's just a matter of executing it.

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Speaker 3: Am I crazy?

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Speaker 2: Or is this the first year under Johnson where a

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pitching coach has returned? Right? Yes? That is right? Okay,

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he went.

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Speaker 5: Three in three years. Yeah, I would go pitching staff,

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but I'm actually going to go starters.

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Speaker 2: That concerns me the most.

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Speaker 5: We know Chase Shores is probably going to be there,

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but again, we haven't really seen him in extended action

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for two years since he's been here. Really, you know

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what Kate Anderson can do. Who's going to be that

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third starter? A lot of different people have a lot

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of different opinions. And to her point, like Kate Anderson

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came on at the end of the year, but if

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you get back at SEC played before he came on,

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you lost a lot of game threes and the reason

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was is the team you were playing had a third

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starter and you have not. You have enough arms. I

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think people are gonna carve out different roles. You're going

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to have the closer, You're going to have the middle reliever.

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Like not having that starting pitcher put you behind the

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eight ball in Game three because like what did we

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see last year? You had two or three guys you

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really trusted in the bullpen, but you couldn't throw them

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every single game of the series. And without that third starter,

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it's really difficult to win those game threes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think y'all are both right, and

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I think this is just a I think this is

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just a question of varying degrees, right, So I'm still

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I still do wonder like, who like is is Gavin Gidgery?

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Is he going to be like a true shutdown closer.

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I know he has the attitude for it. I know

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he has the stuff for it. You maybe need to

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find a little bit of the consistency. But you're absolutely

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right about the lack of a day three starter last

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year the impact had and Landra you're right too. Then

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a lot of times like because one problem sort of

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creates the other, you don't have a day three starter,

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you're having to use more arms, then all of a

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sudden you know you're lacking in that middle relief as well.

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So the staff is my biggest quas run. But look,

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according to One Baseball, look pretty emn good. Kate Anderson

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in the top one hundred, Kate Anderson coming in at seventeen,

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Anthony A and Sigg coming in at twenty seven, and

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Chase Shores at forty six. LS few one of a

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few teams with two in the top thirty. Let's look

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at other SEC teams and where some of their starters

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rank in this top thirty. Ryan Prager comes in at

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number three for tex A and m of course he

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does a lefty. Gabe is a Gayckle Gockle Arkansas at

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number six. Are these Oklahoma brothers the Witherspoons, They have

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to be I cannot imagine that they're not. But you

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have Kyson Witherspoon from Oklahoma coming in ranked number eight,

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and you have Malachi with has been to Oklahoma coming

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in ranked and number twenty one. So those are a

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couple of new names out for as we get to

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see the Sooners in the SEC Baseball Gauntlet or the

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the the gauntlet that is SEC Baseball for the first time.

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You have Zach Root at Arkansas coming in at eleven.

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So already here Arkansas two pictures in the top eleven,

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Colton Smith, Georgia sixteen, Saint Adams Alabama eighteen, Nate Snead

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Tennessee at twenty, Hunter Elliott, Ole, miss twenty six, Jared Spencer,

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Texas twenty eight, Gage Wood Arkansas coming in at thirty.

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So Arkansas with three pitchers in the top thirty. But

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that's always Arkansas. That's just what the Razorbacks do. Also,

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if there is a monkey on Jay Johnson's back, it

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is probably the Hogs. But uh yes, yes, I miss

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missed opportunity by me. So as you can see it.

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Look the SEC. Have you thought it was gonna be

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any easier this year? No, It's going to be like

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it's been, only more so. Like in the age of Nil,

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where increased economic investment continues to directly correlate with increased

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production on the field. Emotional investment creates economic investors to

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increase that production, and nobody cares as much as the

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SEC does. And they're only carrying more and more because

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it just means more, which means the SEC is only

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going to get tougher and tougher, and I.

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Speaker 3: Freaking love it.

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Speaker 2: The only I need is the new MLB the show

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video game on Road to the Show, they have like

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a mini college mode where you play for a college. Well,

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but it's where you play for college like on your

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like be a pro mode. Why not just give us

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a full like SEC just little sub sub license or

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or you do not need to make a full college

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baseball game. I don't believe.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they used to have these, I know, I

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know they basketball too. They never brought those.

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Speaker 2: Back, I know. I mean, maybe it's a money thing

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because you have to pay all the players now and

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so like INTAA football actually became one of the biggest

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selling sports games of all time, if not the biggest selling.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to pay nearly as many baseball and

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basketball players because there's not as many.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 5: So if you can do it with football, I don't

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see why you couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, though, it's like to do all of

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the sport would take a lot of work. So here

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in the interim, you've already gone through some of the work.

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Just do like an SEC mode or something. Yeah, just

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you know, keep it to sixteen teams, sec acc if

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you just want to do the big two. Uh, that

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would be the only thing that would get me back

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on a baseball video game, and I'll likely it if

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it was college.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this show's pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: I remember playing the show years and years and years ago,

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and I agree it was fun of like the right

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stick batting if that's what they still do and everything.

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But I just I grew up, you know, obsessed the

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Braves as my team every single night, reading the paper,

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every day, watching sports and every morning. Tom glad It's

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actually why I chose Kate Anderson for the player most

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looking forward to on Louisiana Sports on Net because Tom

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Glavin which is it's really stupid logic.

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Speaker 4: But Tom mentioned him.

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Speaker 2: No I did, no, No, I'm being dumb when we

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hunt asked us, you know what are you most excited for?

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I say, Kate Anderson because I have such positive memories

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of watching Tom Glaven growing up and I left the

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a dominant lefty starter. That's whatever. They're just both left hand,

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all right. Coming up next, let's tell talk to Jordan

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Tabor about the Rain Will Bring Flowers Foundation and they've

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been going on in the Pmacamar planting seeds of hope. Guys.

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This is a tough story, but it's an important story

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and it's one that you are going to want to hear. Uh.

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We'll beg with more OTB. Next after bench Tommy's Windows

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more sports Talk. What's some other stuff

496
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mixed in off the bench with Hester and T Bob?

497
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: What's going on y'all?

498
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,279
Speaker 2: Welcome back to O T b here on one O

499
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,319
four five ESPN. And uh, I know we have a

500
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,640
lot of fun on this show, but I want, I want,

501
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,519
I want to be a little serious here and UH

502
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:15,680
speak on an event that is going on in the

503
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
PMAC tomorrow that I think is well worth your time

504
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,839
and very important. This is planting seeds of hope. It's

505
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,480
gonna be hosted by Ryan Clark. Also Emma Benwan and

506
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,680
DJ Shark will be there that six pm in the

507
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:33,480
p MAC. It is from the Rain Will Bring Flowers Foundation,

508
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,680
and we'll explain exactly what it's all about by talking

509
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
to Jordan Taper, the most affected by this. Jordan, what's

510
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,839
going on man? Thank you so much for joining us

511
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,319
this morning.

512
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 7: Good morning see Bob, and thank you for.

513
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,559
Speaker 2: For having us so Jordan, There's there's no easy way

514
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:54,680
to talk about this, but I know that it is

515
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:59,000
close to your heart to to to tell this story publicly,

516
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
try to bring awareness and help others explain to everybody

517
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,960
the story behind how the Rain Will Bring Flowers Foundation

518
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,759
came about and what the goals are with tomorrow's event.

519
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 7: Absolutely Rain Will Bring Flowers is a youth student athlete

520
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,720
suicide prevention nonprofit that was stood up in response to

521
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:31,599
my family's tragedy. We lost our son, Owen in April

522
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:41,759
of twenty twenty three, and Owen was popular, never bullied, smart, athletic.

523
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,319
He was starting at the end and tight end for

524
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,319
Saint Michael's High School as a sophomore, and he came

525
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,359
from a stable family where he was loved and supported.

526
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And I just share this with you, T Bob and

527
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:01,279
your audience so that everyone understands that if a kid

528
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,880
like Owen and our family could fall victim to suicide,

529
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,960
and I really believe all of our kids are at risk.

530
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so in this journey, which I cannot fathom,

531
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:21,359
by the way, and I credit you for trying to

532
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:27,720
take that pain and make something positive out of it.

533
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,160
In this journey, what have you learned about steps that

534
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,440
could be taken, things to do or or or how

535
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,680
to fight against what can be you know, when when

536
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,839
when maybe your brain kind of starts to betray you

537
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,559
or mental health, like we what have you learned in

538
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:47,440
this journey thus far?

539
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I did. What I have learned

540
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,359
is that how prevalent suicide is and it's actually the

541
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:04,599
second leading cause of death in Louisiana for adolescence. And

542
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,839
there was also a study that was released recently and

543
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,720
it's the second leading cause of death for NCAA athletes.

544
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,640
Yet no one's really talking about it. And you know,

545
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000
when I was in school, there was mad there was

546
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:24,039
there and it was really kind of you know, auditorium

547
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:28,640
style education, classroom style education. But due to the stigma

548
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,119
around mental health, we're really not talking about it. And

549
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440
that's that's really the goal of planning Seeds of Hope

550
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:43,119
to just normalize the conversation and make getting help for

551
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:47,880
mental health as normal as you would if you were

552
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160
to injure yourself on the on the field.

553
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,519
Speaker 2: So, Jordan, we have a lot of we have a

554
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,599
lot of people you know, at this time of the

555
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,920
day on their way to school, carpool and whatnot. I've

556
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:01,680
you know, I hear from a lot of kids like

557
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,519
to listen to the show around this time. If a

558
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,079
kid is out there and he is listening to this

559
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
and he's like, man, you know that kind of speaks

560
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,240
to me a bit here, what resources can he engage in?

561
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:19,279
He or she, I should say, I apologize, what resource

562
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,640
can hear she engage in to maybe get some of

563
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,119
some of the health or some of the help that

564
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,039
they might be seeking.

565
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,799
Speaker 7: SRA. And so my colleague Shelley mullenex from the Elisha

566
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,960
Athletic Department is also on the line with us, and

567
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,000
I think she'd be the best person to respond to

568
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,519
that question.

569
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 2: Hey, Shelley, did you Shelley, did you hear the and

570
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:43,599
I love Shelley by the way. I've been knowing her

571
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,599
for many, many, many years. Shelley, did you hear the question?

572
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 8: I did?

573
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: I did.

574
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:49,599
Speaker 8: Nice to hear your voice.

575
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: Keep up.

576
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,279
Speaker 8: I appreciate your time. Well, you know, you know, if

577
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:56,119
you know me, that we've been talking about mental health

578
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,160
in the athletic training room for a long time. It's

579
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,799
a big part of wellness for us and for me,

580
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,480
and I've made it hopefully everyone's all of our student athletes,

581
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,960
I made their business to at least try to tend

582
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,440
to it because it's just not you know, it's not

583
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,839
the cool thing to talk about. And so I know

584
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
that all the you know, the people and the kids

585
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,519
that are in the cars right now are uncomfortable and

586
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,039
not knowing, you know, how to say stuff. There's a

587
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,200
lot of resources. I mean, the first and foremost would

588
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be your parent, which I know would be a difficult thing.

589
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,680
But I've had conversations with my own kids with you know,

590
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about these topics, and they're scary to have, but they

591
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,000
need to happen. And there's a lot of relief when

592
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,160
you do have these kind of conversations with your kids,

593
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,359
because they're having these thoughts and they just don't know

594
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,480
what to do with the thoughts. So absent a parent

595
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,400
being able to have that meaningful conversation for you know,

596
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,119
for good reasons, there's you know, obviously a pediatricians. Of

597
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,119
course you have to be going with your parents probably

598
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,240
to the pediatrician. But the doctors should be prepared for

599
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,559
these kind of conversations. But the easiest thing is nine

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eight eight. You know, we know that number. We hear

601
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it all the time. I've actually worked those crisis lines,

602
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so I've received those phone calls. These are the are

603
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,000
you know, people that are prepared for difficult conversations with

604
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,559
anybody who calls. I've gotten phone calls myself from young folks,

605
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from older folks that are in crisis and in the moment,

606
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and it's really you know, important that when people are

607
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,920
feeling that lost and that isolated, that they reach out

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00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,160
to somebody. So it doesn't have to be you know,

609
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,319
the best psychologist or mental health person in town. Sometimes

610
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it just could be a friend. And so I think

611
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when we talk about how to how to managemental health,

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it's about removing the shame associated with it. So if

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you were to come to me in the training room

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and say I'm really struggling today that I wouldn't you know,

615
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,359
freak out, and that we would have a meaningful conversation

616
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and I would try to find resources for you, just

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the same way if you came in and said, my

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00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,759
knees killing me, what can I do? I would have

619
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a plan for you. So you know, it should not

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be any different. We have to normalize it because the

621
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shame is there and and it creates more isolation, which

622
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is just a challenge for both, you know, the parents.

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Speaker 7: And the kids.

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Speaker 2: So guys, I mean, if you are listening to this

625
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,920
and this is resonating with you, or maybe you're listening

626
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,119
to this and does it right now and one day

627
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,880
you think back on anything, it doesn't just I think

628
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,719
the first step you just have to talk to someone.

629
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Talk to someone, be it a loved one, a parent

630
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,119
called the number that Jelly said, talk to someone to

631
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,079
get back to the event going on tomorrow night, six

632
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,239
pm in the p MAC, host by Ryan Clark, planning

633
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Seeds of Hope Jordan. How can people get involved? Tickets?

634
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:41,679
What's the kind of logistical details of tomorrow night?

635
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,679
Speaker 7: So the event is absolutely free, Okay, it's a community event.

636
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Everyone is welcome and really just show up. You know,

637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,440
there's no need to register, just show up. We're looking

638
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,079
to pack the t MAC since we are gonna be

639
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,920
sitting with everyone during the dinner hour. We've brought in

640
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:12,360
a thousand chains boxes through the generosity of the Joe

641
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,559
Burrow Foundation and LSU Athletics and Rain will bring Flowers

642
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,000
is also feeding an additional thousand folks with Papa John's.

643
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,079
So the first two thousand to show up we'll receive

644
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,559
a free meal on us.

645
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: So you go. P MAC starts at six f and

646
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960
mar you show up a little bit earlier, it's free,

647
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,840
you get dinner. And then is it a panel discussion

648
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,039
about mental health and everything that people go through in athletics,

649
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sit and otherwise.

650
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,599
Speaker 7: Correct and the doors will actually open at five. We'll

651
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,880
we'll have a tabling event where we'll have over thirty

652
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,039
community resources. They are just to show their support and

653
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,880
let the attendees know of all the help and support

654
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,840
available to them. And then yes, the the it will

655
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,920
be a panel format like you pointed out, Ryan Clark

656
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:18,760
will be moderating and we have a panel of high

657
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:25,760
profile athletes as well as credential mental health professionals and

658
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,440
it'll be an opportunity for Q and A and the

659
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,920
panelists are just going to share their life experiences, their

660
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,800
struggles and how they've overcome and where they're at today.

661
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,960
So it's really just going to be a night of

662
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,239
hope and inspiration. We just want these kids to know

663
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,440
that they're not alone and that there's tons of support

664
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to help them.

665
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,639
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty incredible, Jordan. Just as this interview

666
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,280
has gone on, we have our chat feature right where

667
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,280
people talk and it's being inundated right now with messages

668
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,559
of people who lost love wife that say that seemed

669
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,280
like you said happy outside look at it and you

670
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,280
never know what's going on, and so thank you for

671
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,679
all the work that you're doing. And guys, go out

672
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,800
tomorrow to the PMAC six P and Rain Rain will

673
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,119
being Flowers as a foundation plan of Seeds of Hope

674
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239
is the event. It's going to be an excellent night.

675
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,639
You can go, get yourself a free dinner and then

676
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:28,639
an excellent night of normalizing conversations that need to take

677
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,559
place to protect ourselves, to protect our kids, and to

678
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:36,440
make sure that they feel comfortable discussing these sort of things.

679
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,519
And shout out to the Joe Burrow Foundation, l Club,

680
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:41,440
our Lady Lake Health for all spots of it, and

681
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:43,599
most of all, thank you to you Shelley. But most

682
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,880
of all, thank you to you Jordan again for wearing

683
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,960
this on your sleeve and and and being willing to,

684
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,239
you know, put this out publicly in order to try

685
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,840
to save others lives. It's it's it's a very big

686
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,639
thing that you're doing.

687
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Bob. You know, I just can't let my

688
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,480
son's tragedy get to waste, and we're just trying to

689
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,679
make sure that no other family has to walk in

690
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:13,880
my shoes. And I would just leave one thought with

691
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,360
your listeners. If you're a coach or if your parent,

692
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,760
if you're a parent, and you're sitting there thinking, you know,

693
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,079
mental health, that's not going to impact my family or

694
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:27,280
my team. You know, if I'm being honest, I felt

695
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,880
the same way. I just didn't see this coming and

696
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,119
it never felt like this would would impact my family.

697
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:39,159
And I really wish I would had access to an

698
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,679
event like this. I wish my son would have had

699
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,159
access to an event like this. So if you're sitting there,

700
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,880
clear your schedule, bring your family out, bring your team out.

701
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:51,719
Thank you so much to Bob.

702
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: All right, George, thank you and you have a good

703
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:58,199
day man, and looking forward to tomorrow's event guys again,

704
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,760
that is six pm in the PMX. Our doors will

705
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,840
open at five, like you said first two thousand in there,

706
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:08,199
get yourself a free meal man. Thank you to Jordan again.

707
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,760
When we get back more off the bench, off.

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Speaker 1: The bench, back to sports talk, maybe off the bench.

709
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Speaker 2: What's happing, y'all? Welcome back to OTV. Thank you again

710
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,800
to Jordan, and that event is planning Seeds of Hope

711
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,480
tomorrow night at six pm in the p MAC. All right,

712
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,599
let's just transition here. The New York Jets have informed

713
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,960
Aaron Rodgers they are not going to re sign him.

714
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,280
So the god awful Aaron Rodgers Jets experiment is is

715
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,320
add an end. Now. It'll be interesting to me to

716
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,320
see what if he follows, just goes the full Brett

717
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,760
fav route signs of the Vikings beat out to to

718
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,079
McCarthy and then ends up being awesome, right, because you

719
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,519
remember Brett Farr first played for the Jets, didn't do

720
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,800
much and didn't played for the Vikings and did awesome. Again.

721
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,039
I don't think it gon't happen, but we'll wait and see.

722
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,119
But that's not what I want to talk about. I

723
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,119
don't really care about Aaron Rodgers or the Jets for

724
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:32,760
that matter, unless the Jets won Derek Carr. And here's

725
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,559
where it gets a bit interesting. If you google Jets

726
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,559
and Derek Carr, there's not a lot of recent articles,

727
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,920
but there are are a ton of articles talking about

728
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,559
how Derek Carr was basically going to sign with the

729
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:49,559
Jets two years ago before they ended up wanting Aaron

730
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:53,440
Rodgers and then he ends up in New Orleans. And

731
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,400
what's funny is I think right now, actually Derek Carr

732
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,519
is a better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers is. Maybe Derek

733
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,360
Carr do really well. They're give them their best chance

734
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,079
to win. And you may be saying, ah'vitibo, what's the point, right, Like,

735
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,199
you're not actually gonna get that much cap relief. It's

736
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,679
all gonna just be dead money. And this is true.

737
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,039
But I've been thinking about it a lot, and I

738
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,280
was in New Orleans all of last week and talking

739
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,480
to people last week. I just don't know that I've

740
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:21,679
ever seen anything like the relationship between a fan base

741
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,280
and a player like Derek Carr and the hoot at Nation.

742
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,960
It's just toxic. It's just absolutely toxic, and it's toxic

743
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,280
to a level that is not actually reflected in the

744
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,480
level of play. I'm not saying Derek Carr has been

745
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:43,000
great or good, but he has been okay. And yet

746
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,880
you would think that he's actively a bottom five quarterback

747
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,199
in the NFL, that he's just hot garbage. I've just

748
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,920
never seen anyone hated as much where the play is. Again,

749
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,199
you could say good, but I don't even think you

750
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,039
need to go that far because then people are like,

751
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:05,760
what is and it doesn't matter, Like, oh, the steps

752
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,280
don't and I understand all that, but like, at a

753
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
certain point you have to see what the relationship is

754
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,880
and I don't know, man, I think you have to

755
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,079
move on now. Obviously, you're gonna empower Kellen Moore when

756
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,079
he's announced his head coach. You're gonna empower him to

757
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:28,320
make this decision. And I think there's real incentivization for

758
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,800
more to keep Carr. If he's trying to win as

759
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,719
many games as possible next year, If that is the goal,

760
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:41,039
then keeping Derek Carr is probably the answer. However, when

761
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:45,280
he's hired the front office is cognizant of what a

762
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,519
complete mess they've made of everything, and so I think

763
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:52,159
they tell him as a way to entice him, Hey man, look,

764
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,360
you're not gonna be judged off of those year one results.

765
00:42:56,199 --> 00:43:00,800
We're gonna give you time. And in that context, doesn't

766
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,639
it make all the sense to try to move car

767
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:09,239
for whatever you can get, play rattler, see what you have,

768
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,159
and probably lose a lot of games along the way.

769
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,920
But in doing so, clean the crud, you know, trim

770
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,599
the fat, start to reset things, and then maybe set

771
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,159
yourself up to draft a first round quarterback for the

772
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:34,559
first time in fifty years, which is absurd and mind boggling.

773
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:42,119
That is a stat But it is like, it doesn't

774
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:44,880
matter how well Derek Carr plays here, He's never gonna

775
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,000
be liked. What was one of the common frames last week?

776
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:50,280
Where is dere Carr? Jamis Winston's out here charming the

777
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,679
entire city, tired, Matthew cam Jordan's riding around on a

778
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,639
freaking mopet at Radio Row for an hour straight. Where

779
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:05,719
is dear Carr? Probably Chipotle, not even in North And

780
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,000
so it just appears so clear that that relationship is

781
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:17,199
over and neither side really wants another year of it,

782
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,360
so it's up to you.

783
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore.

784
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:24,519
Speaker 2: But I would say to really really think about moving

785
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,480
car for whatever you can get, eating the dead money,

786
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,199
and it's a lot of dead money to eat, and

787
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,880
maybe starting starting over for real this time.

788
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:41,159
Speaker 4: And signed jameis hear me out? Trades back sis and.

789
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, just trade. Let's just go back. Let's take it

790
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:49,119
back a few years. Trade car sign jamis heal the city.

791
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,840
This is the way, Kellen. You have the opportunity to

792
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,679
be the prince that was promised save us.

793
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore.

794
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,519
Speaker 2: All right, Hour one of the Bucks, Hour two coming

795
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,880
up next, keep it locked on, o dB off the bench,