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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode five sixty one of five and IVE.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, July ninth. I am your host, Craig Goldstein,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as usual by Patrick Dubuk and Jeffrey pattern Nostro.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the last few days gone for you, guys? My

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<v Speaker 1>last few days have been Deck. After I'm done with

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I will continue to Deck. I will spend

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<v Speaker 1>my life by the rest of my life in Deck.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, I'm not sure if this is a verber nown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's needs Also, it's also just you never know

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<v Speaker 1>what someone's like locational affect, Like I keep miss I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>or when Patrick has typed it, I'm like, oh, okay, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where he is now? No, I uh yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday last night, I closed my eyes, you know sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>like if you play a video game for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to see the video game. I closed my eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like, not even like I blinked. I closed eyes

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw Deck. I saw a board that I

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<v Speaker 3>had been standing earlier. That like, I recognized the board

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<v Speaker 3>that I had been standing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the line specifically, when I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were gonna type something else as a

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<v Speaker 1>whrror story there. Yeah, I'm so sick of Deck. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry Patrick, Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>That all we're not we're not expounding further on the Deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't if you want to talk about the game, Ian,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? I mean, it stretches onto intinity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the it's the bleak Bleak to the end of time. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can keep talking about it, but the everything we

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<v Speaker 1>would talk about would still be Deck. I can. I

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<v Speaker 1>can recap some of Patrick and my conversation last night,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of games that are burned into your retinas. I

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<v Speaker 1>I had called to remember, Well, so apparently there's a

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<v Speaker 1>new Heroes of Might and Magic. Either out makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>which is did you play that play? They've made one

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<v Speaker 1>in like twenty years, but I have. I'm it's a

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<v Speaker 1>prequel Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the plot was very important in those games, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>I must have, but I could not tell you anything

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<v Speaker 2>about it or which one it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they were all.

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<v Speaker 2>Identical, right, No, I know, but I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I really reference. And then the fact that there was

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<v Speaker 1>also Might and Magic, which was a completely different game

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<v Speaker 1>going on at the exact same time, very confusing. But

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick and I were having this discussion, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered this very specific game where you had to

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<v Speaker 1>do something in the game where you had like this

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<v Speaker 1>can sound so dumb, but these were That's what these

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<v Speaker 1>games were. You had, you had very you had to

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<v Speaker 1>make them deck exactly. That's half the games now. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hit his uh you had to throw he You had

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<v Speaker 1>to get this guy across this like boiling water. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way to do it in this game was to

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<v Speaker 1>throw in a cold head of lettuce.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they don't and they don't tell these they don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell they told you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's iceberg lettuce. It's iceberg lettus. That's that's a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we were working with at the time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the it was the nineties. And I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>this to Patrick, But every time he would touch the

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<v Speaker 1>lettuce or whatever, he would say, egads, that's cold, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just sits. That scene of crossing the boiling water

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<v Speaker 1>with that thing just at in my head. And he,

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<v Speaker 1>of course said, no, I have no idea what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell you're talking about. And I was like, you were

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<v Speaker 1>my only hope. That's because those games sucked and I

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<v Speaker 1>never played. Well sorry, anyway, I did find it immediately

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the name. I found the name. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was already searching for it. I found it so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because it's it's a King's

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<v Speaker 1>Quest game for the Yeah, the follow up Quest six.

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<v Speaker 1>Those games are so bad that that line. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I heard them, I'm like, Okay, it must be

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<v Speaker 1>a King's Quest game in a very derogatory sense, like

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<v Speaker 1>oh did you I didn't because I found it before

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<v Speaker 1>you sent the video. I found the title, but because

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a feeling incredible anyway, horrible game. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent so so much time on That's Gang's West. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what Patrick and I talk about it night sometimes. Yeah, Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important. It is it day in the life

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<v Speaker 2>of a soccer fan. It is the day Chefel Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>announced their kit for next year at least on one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>They have switched kit spot, not sponsor. Well, they twitch

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<v Speaker 2>switched kit sponsor. They twitched kitchen kit manufacturers from Macron

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<v Speaker 2>to Umbro, even though Umbro is not a real brand

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<v Speaker 2>anymore in Europe. I'm reliably informed they're owned by somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and it's blue and white stripes with the collar. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so soon they're always the same. But it's like there's nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no weird sublimation. They haven't put weird digital artifacting

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<v Speaker 2>in the blue stripes, which is the thing they'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to do, blue and white stripes with the collar.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what level are they at at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>They're in League one and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, League one, it's the one the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you were relegated last year after obviously having probably

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<v Speaker 2>the worst season, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now was any of that. They've had a lot of financial.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there is hope. I literally I clicked on

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<v Speaker 2>it to like look at it. You can now just

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<v Speaker 2>use shop pay or Apple pay to buy it, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like a gigantic step forward for their merchandising and

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<v Speaker 2>marketing department. The process before, let me tell you, was not.

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<v Speaker 2>I would put in.

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<v Speaker 1>My credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an account with the shop right because I

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<v Speaker 2>ordered for my favor bit. I would put in like

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<v Speaker 2>my credit card information in my address and just click

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<v Speaker 2>a button and hope it went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, compared relationship, congratulations. Anything else we want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about? Yeah, not yet, Okay. Our first segment today

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<v Speaker 1>the Journey for to Verlanden or am I doing that right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this reference.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Undying Land Craig beyond the scene where fro

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<v Speaker 2>Do and Gandalf and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the rings, I apologize. Yeah, I saw the at

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<v Speaker 1>least at least one or no, I saw two of

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<v Speaker 1>the movies, because I definitely thought one of the movies

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<v Speaker 1>was a repeat until sudden, suddenly something different happened at

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<v Speaker 1>some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely, I definitely saw three of them in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not it's not even that I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was bad. I just I didn't read the books. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't whatever anyway, so I uh yeah, anyway, Justin Verlander

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<v Speaker 1>has been added to the All Star Game as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the commissioner's picks. He also released a statement thanking

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner for that and saying this season will be

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<v Speaker 1>his last season. Now are we gonna see him the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there a statement that he's like, he's entry hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get back or.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna try. Yeah? Sure, yeah, I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's funny that the commissioner's picks in this

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<v Speaker 1>thing are Justin Verlander injured and going to retire and

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<v Speaker 1>not at all deserving in the sense of of anything

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<v Speaker 1>about this season or even really you know, last season. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>he's deserving it. He's a he's a star. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. But just the comparison being the other

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<v Speaker 1>is Bryce Harper, who's just having a great season. Except

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<v Speaker 1>as we as we cataloged last week, there are already

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<v Speaker 1>four an ol first baseman and one of them Sal Stewart.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's just like, you know, here's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's deserving and is a star and having a great year,

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<v Speaker 1>and also here's a guy who's about to get taken

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<v Speaker 1>behind the woodshed.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not realize that Berlanda was like an above

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<v Speaker 2>average pitcher last year and threw one hundred and fifty innings.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because it was for the Giants he closed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was as a real n No one paid paid

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<v Speaker 1>edge to the Giants. He had a very strong like

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<v Speaker 2>See if they'd hired Tony Vitello last season, we all

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<v Speaker 2>would have been paying it to the Giants in August

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<v Speaker 2>and September. I would have noticed this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he uh, it was a rough Marshall season and

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<v Speaker 1>then he I think came back from injury at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, from July twenty third through the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season he had a two to six to zero

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<v Speaker 1>er and a three three, three six fIF So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, you know, completely undeserved or anything. Yeah, really

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<v Speaker 1>strong second half of the season. I do like, I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be quick, but I just want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a tour of the things that Justin.

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<v Speaker 3>Verlander leads the league and leads career active leaders in

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<v Speaker 3>He is currently the active current leader in wins, losses,

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<v Speaker 3>game started, innings pitched, earned runs, home runs allowed, walks.

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<v Speaker 1>Allowed, strikeouts allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like Phil Lecro's nineteen niney seventy seven season,

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<v Speaker 3>ex just for the entire career, Like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the last of this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there's been some articles and everybody's been

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<v Speaker 3>moaning like this is the end of an era, and

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<v Speaker 3>it probably is the end of an era.

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<v Speaker 1>The Maxers are will probably also pitching in and it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a little weird right that that, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess you could only pick one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They're both in the American League, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly it seems like they should just kind of both

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<v Speaker 3>be there the difference I guess is that Nextuerser will

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<v Speaker 3>almost certainly pitch and maybe pitch badly in the second half,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas very Lander probably won't. I know, it's it's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not disagreeing with the choice of Verlander Versuser, but

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<v Speaker 3>to me, they've always been just kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the same tier of excellence.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I would assume, sure are a second and a

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<v Speaker 2>second and all the things you just named.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, anything else we want, I mean, career, you

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<v Speaker 1>can save it for later. But I'm like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Announce his retirement. I feel like this is as good

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<v Speaker 2>a time as any to you know, look back. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny like when you think about Verlander's career, it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like he had well, and I remember having the

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<v Speaker 3>one setback, right, the one point where it looked like

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<v Speaker 3>he was done. It was around the same time that

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<v Speaker 3>Felix was having his setback, and Verlander returned to greatness

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<v Speaker 3>and Felix obviously didn't. And then you look at his

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<v Speaker 3>numbers and it's like, no, yeah, a couple, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he had, you know, the for the COVID slash. Then

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one injury where he just basically missed two

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<v Speaker 3>years of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean you assume, like the thirty seven year

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<v Speaker 2>old getting Tommy John surgery, like he was already a

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer at that, right, but you might like

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<v Speaker 2>to assume he's done, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he won the song and that's wild. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I kind of forgot how great he was in

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<v Speaker 2>They were talking about this on the MATS broadcast last

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<v Speaker 2>night or his retirement, and Gary brought it up, and

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<v Speaker 2>they always just always people always need to bring this

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<v Speaker 2>up about Berlander. It's like, oh, yeah, he only threw

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<v Speaker 2>like ninety three ninety four at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just is that actually true? Like I know

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he could throw hard at like any point,

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<v Speaker 2>like he just threw hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, And it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we'll ever Yeah we have, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>but he has like dat way back to I think

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<v Speaker 1>he did. I think he was I mean it's Carlos

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you're going to just tell his arm

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<v Speaker 1>No, for sure, well sure, but I just think like

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<v Speaker 1>he'd add two to three miles per hour of the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the game. And do I think Forerlander could

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<v Speaker 1>throw ninety seven from pitch one. Yeah, he's come out

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<v Speaker 1>and talked about coming off that the TJ. Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>the game he's he had some really actually interesting quotes

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<v Speaker 1>about how he changed and he came out and started

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<v Speaker 1>throwing as hard as he could all the time, max

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<v Speaker 1>effort every pitch, and how that from the it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was also more of like a contact suppression repertoire. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that he show them strikeout guys when he came back.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, obviously, look, he probably had to

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but he said like this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way the game is now. And I think the indication, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>or the implication was that that wasn't the case early

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<v Speaker 1>on in his career. I think he could come out

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<v Speaker 1>of innings, and then ramp up as as the game

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<v Speaker 1>went along. But that's not today's battery. You can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that to today's batters anymore. Really, my recollection of this

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<v Speaker 1>is he made these comments wearing like a triple A.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing like a rehab start, so he's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>like the triple A. I don't know if they were

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<v Speaker 1>sugar Land at the point, or if they were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they were before Sugarland. I don't remember mine Hole

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<v Speaker 1>affiliates like I used to, but I don't need Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he they're really interesting comments, and I do think

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<v Speaker 1>they that he really did have to actually change the

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<v Speaker 1>of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sure ser did too, right, Like the one

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<v Speaker 2>of the hallmarks of Hall of Fame players in general

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<v Speaker 2>is they can even if they're not elite in their

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<v Speaker 2>late thirties, they can still be good, right Like they

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<v Speaker 2>not only do they have a higher peak to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of slide down from, but it's a more gentle decline

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of cases. Right like even Verlander. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that Mets the season is split between the Mets

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<v Speaker 2>and the Astros. In twenty twenty three, like he was

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<v Speaker 2>he was hurt a little bit at the begining of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. He was still a very good picture. Like

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<v Speaker 2>being that good a picture at forty is just very unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not they're not normal guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean he won the Young at thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he won the Young at thirty six, missed

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<v Speaker 2>two seasons and won the Young again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, that's like freak stuff. But like in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously he he won a World Series, he won

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<v Speaker 2>two cy Youngs. He probably could have won two. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he has three second places in a third place, like

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<v Speaker 2>he probably could have won a couple more elected higher

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<v Speaker 2>than right, Like he led the Americ League in War

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<v Speaker 2>two of the seasons, he's been a second as a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 2>But like something about Berlander, like it was interesting, right

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<v Speaker 2>because he had the early issues as a playoff pitcher, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's literally a Trump tweet about him not being

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<v Speaker 2>good in the playoffs. That's how how known it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know it just went away, right because

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<v Speaker 2>of his pitching down the stretch. He won two World

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<v Speaker 2>Series on the second World Series. He won the World

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<v Speaker 2>Series in twenty twenty two as well. They did not

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<v Speaker 2>pitch great in that postseason. He pitched very well in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, and he was like also had the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>of like being the last piece for them, right Like

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<v Speaker 2>they had to like call him up at the deadline

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<v Speaker 2>because Dallas Kikel had to call him with the deadline

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<v Speaker 2>and get him to waive his no trade clause and like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to come here. And he's sort of spanned

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<v Speaker 2>errors eras as a pitcher, right like when he when

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<v Speaker 2>he came up and was had his initial success, right

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<v Speaker 2>like the best pitchers in baseball were like Johan Santana

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<v Speaker 2>and Tim Winscom Like it's it's that, you know, Roy Halladay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that far back, and now he's made it all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the end where it's like Jacob Zierowski

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<v Speaker 2>throwing one hundred and five and he's like the good good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for pretty much the entire time. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do wonder because he's one of those guys, like is

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<v Speaker 2>he one of those guys obviously just going in first

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<v Speaker 2>ballot Hall of Famer, Like does he get actually remembered

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<v Speaker 2>as one of the all time great pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, if only because of timing, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's gonna be because he's a last like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a real shelf, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, increasingly it looks like Chris Sale

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<v Speaker 3>will mitigate that shelf a little bit, right, But for

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<v Speaker 3>a while, it looked like there was just going to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a five year you know, vacuum of absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Wheeler also probably, Yeah, Zac Wheeler might actually be

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<v Speaker 3>the last real one of those guys, but not for

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<v Speaker 3>not for nearly as.

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<v Speaker 1>Long when you talk about being remembered, like twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>from now. I don't know if Zach Wheeler gets the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he's there right, like I think he's.

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<v Speaker 2>There on Crystal right, because the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just he's Wheeler's dominance started.

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<v Speaker 2>Too latelate, and Sale himself obviously had big gaps due

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and by the way, the other part on Wheeler

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<v Speaker 1>is he's come out and said like, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>last draft. I'm not going like he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to forty two. That actually might work in Wheeler's favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Because maybe, but it hurts on the numbers compition, It

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<v Speaker 1>will hurt on the stat side.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, as far as reputation goes, I think going

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<v Speaker 3>out on top will actually increase Wheeler's esteem for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, you do have to, like you can't like

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<v Speaker 2>I had already forgotten that Lander was good at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of last year at the Giant.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly Dandy Johnson with the Giants, and yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I mean, I do it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think Verlander gets remembered because I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>in that way that you're asking, Jeff, I think, along

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<v Speaker 1>with Shures are in Kershaw. I think those three guys

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, and to extent, but he think you

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, but those those three have been a

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<v Speaker 1>real tree. It's also kind of interesting you brought up

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs stuff. Obviously Kershaw gets gets his but like

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<v Speaker 1>none of the three of them are particularly dominant playoff starr.

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<v Speaker 1>They had their starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, neither neither has sail for that matter, or he

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<v Speaker 2>has not pitched as much in them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think people are going to pine for the

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<v Speaker 3>workhorse aspect of his career for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 3>people are just trying to wonder why can't people just

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<v Speaker 3>be like Orlander and and that will, you know, because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Always if they throw ninety four in the zone at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the start at goes four hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet, well people don't know. People will not translate that far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I guess the closest to that right

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<v Speaker 2>now is like Christopher Sanchez, who's obviously struggled a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit his last through a few starts, and he was like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Sanchez is very good, but you look at

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<v Speaker 2>Sancho's like his like literally the way he's built and

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<v Speaker 2>the way he pitches, and you're like, Okay, how long

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<v Speaker 2>is this actually gonna last?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like already almost thirty and he's one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's one games and throwing six hundred and fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>innings in the majors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean again, he's he started too late.

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<v Speaker 2>He did, and it was kind of like a swing

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<v Speaker 2>man when he first came up to you know, bertlanderd

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<v Speaker 2>because he was a high school pick and he did

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<v Speaker 2>get up relatively quickly, though he wasn't really like a

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<v Speaker 2>star until his mid twenties. But yeah, I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the I'm just gonna use reference war since it's

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<v Speaker 2>like run prevention, a combination of like run prevention and

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<v Speaker 2>how much you pitch. It's Sanchez, Missierowski, Burns, Wheeler, Schlitler,

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<v Speaker 2>Hit Towardo Rodriguez, Dylan Sees, jt Jin Foster, Griffin, and

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<v Speaker 2>Parker Massik are the top ten this year. Right, And

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because like in a way you can comp

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<v Speaker 2>Missierowski and Berlin, right, like there's some young Verlander to

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<v Speaker 2>his game, but also like he just how how is

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<v Speaker 2>that going to work long term?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I do think, yeah, I do think we can be

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<v Speaker 2>a little too Baseball in general can be a little

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<v Speaker 2>too in love with the guys that just play forever,

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<v Speaker 2>like longevity versus peak.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think like justice for Eric Bernard, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it bothers me when we expect both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Like I like, enough of one should counter

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<v Speaker 2>the other, right, I think I think Johann Santana and

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Burley should both be in the Hall of Fame basically, right, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's room for both, and like obviously Verlander, like there

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<v Speaker 2>this all the pictures we've named I think even Wheeler

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<v Speaker 2>to an extent, are layups for Hall of Family. These

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<v Speaker 2>are the easy ones, like you don't have to think

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<v Speaker 1>Wheelers should be I don't. I don't know that he will.

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<v Speaker 1>But he will not be a first ballot guy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's for sure, right, he might.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have like the Felix track at the end

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and again the hard part is and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>off memory, so I said, but he's not one aside, no, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, which is absolutely insane. Yeah, Like, you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it feels like he's been the second best

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher every year. Yeah, somehow I it really that is

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<v Speaker 1>he's finished second twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he did not really he had some teeth,

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<v Speaker 2>so he had the obviously he was out basically two

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<v Speaker 2>he was out almost like three full years. He did

421
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<v Speaker 2>pitch in twenty seventeen, but badly. Then he was alright

422
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<v Speaker 2>with the Mats, and then it was he only went

423
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<v Speaker 2>to the Phillies. He basically had his first full good

424
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<v Speaker 2>season with the Phillies and twenty twenty one as a

425
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<v Speaker 2>thirty one year old, and it's not like you know,

426
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<v Speaker 2>he was a major prospectors in the Peltron trade, Like

427
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like yeah, it was like kind of a

428
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<v Speaker 2>it's not like a Christopher Sanchez type rise. But you know,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I think he has what one more year on this contract? Yeah,

430
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<v Speaker 2>is gonna Yeah what is he actually going to get?

431
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<v Speaker 2>Like he'll probably get close to fifty war or something

432
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<v Speaker 2>he stays healthy. Yeah, probably enough.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, like the way he's pitching right now,

434
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<v Speaker 1>what's funny? Just the Phillies run is legitimately insane. Yeah,

435
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<v Speaker 1>especially for, as you point out, starting at thirty one.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

437
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, Wheeler missed a month this year coming back from

438
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 3>what seemed like a career altering, slash ending injury.

439
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>It was the good Tosh.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Kept saying, it was even better than we thought.

441
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<v Speaker 1>He is now tied for second in our war for

442
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<v Speaker 1>pictures in the nationally.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he could actually just be on pace for

444
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<v Speaker 3>another second place finish behind his own teammate.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Incredible. Yeah, although I mean you say behind but

446
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Sancho Scott, Yeah, I know he can lit up yep.

447
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<v Speaker 1>So who knows anything else we want to say on

448
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<v Speaker 1>Verlander since we're talking about Wheeler.

449
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just like one of the things about Verlander

450
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<v Speaker 3>is the wins, and like, I think the other thing

451
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<v Speaker 3>is that we're going to lose the concept of the

452
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<v Speaker 3>win and we should probably just stop.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Counting them entirely.

454
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<v Speaker 3>But if you look at like the active win leaders,

455
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<v Speaker 3>and we talk about active like not including people who

456
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<v Speaker 3>are injured right now, so no, sure later fifth on

457
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<v Speaker 3>the active leader list, Michael Waka with one hundred and sixteen.

458
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<v Speaker 3>This is where we stand. We should just just take

459
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<v Speaker 3>them away.

460
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<v Speaker 1>You can also like.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Jokana and Patrick Corbett in the top ten two.

462
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, keep counting wins for Anne Ashby and no

463
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<v Speaker 1>one else.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Carlos Carrasco. I think he's back with the Brads again.

465
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<v Speaker 2>He might be able to su behind.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Corbyn not not to just inject discourse into this, but

467
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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't have it on our list for

468
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<v Speaker 1>around the Horns. So I'll just say it now when

469
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<v Speaker 1>we're removing people through seven innings or six innings of

470
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<v Speaker 1>Perfect Game. Yeah, you know, because it's now happened again

471
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<v Speaker 1>since we had the Uri Peiz discussion, we have uh,

472
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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones, Yeah, and and look I still generally feel

473
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<v Speaker 1>the same. Jared Jones is a little bit different than Yeah,

474
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<v Speaker 1>at someone pointed out I think it was Chris Towers.

475
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<v Speaker 1>He hadn't thrown more than eighty one pitches in a

476
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<v Speaker 1>game in two years. That's that's a little I understand

477
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Yuri was coming off the i L as well and

478
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>has been injury prone. He was coming off a groin issue,

479
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's just and he has.

480
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<v Speaker 2>Thrown more than he does have very long he does

481
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<v Speaker 2>have very long groins.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, he does gricillis. Please, But like they are,

483
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I understand grouping them and that's fine, but they are

484
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 1>different cases in terms of of that injury.

485
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>These are all individualized situations and backgrounds and things like that.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Right now. Uh so, let's just go to our second segment.

487
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<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me there's a chance speaking of the Tigers, Yeah,

488
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the Tigers and the Red Sox are surging.

489
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, yeah, they are.

490
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<v Speaker 1>They are too are they are damning with faint praise.

491
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<v Speaker 1>But if you say they're surging, and they're they've won

492
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:41.039
<v Speaker 1>four in a row, the Red Sox Tiger version, the

493
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>surging five in a row. The Tigers have them for

494
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 1>the Twins have also won four in a row.

495
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure they were not quite to the depths. Yeah, they're already.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see there.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Back to one game, one game below five hundred. The

498
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Tigers are five and a half out in the division. Yeah,

499
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<v Speaker 1>they are four out in the wild card. Ye, they

500
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<v Speaker 1>have one four teams between them and the Rangers in

501
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the last wild card spot. I've said this all along,

502
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know that we need to go along.

503
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Tigers should should bail in.

504
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>This season, don't They might not?

505
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I didn't mention them when we talked

506
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>about the Pirates and the trade deadline last pod. But

507
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 1>one of the Tiger's biggest problems, actually, the Tiger's biggest

508
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>problem has been their bullpen. Well in the third base

509
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>coach or they just fired that will fix the bullpen.

510
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it.

511
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<v Speaker 2>I mean you say that, but also, like man, they

512
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.759
<v Speaker 2>have some there are some easy layups in this lineup

513
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>if you just like get a Vedrand.

514
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you can't also fix the lineup. But

515
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<v Speaker 1>as much as you want to address that, the biggest

516
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>problem has been the bullpen. Kenley Jansen has been really bad.

517
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<v Speaker 1>It's it's basically everyone I think they are. They have

518
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<v Speaker 1>the worst w p A like performances in terms of

519
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all bullpens. Well, yeah, he's falling apart.

520
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Kyle fin again has like the fakest low t e

521
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<v Speaker 2>r A possible.

522
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is it's fine, always fine. This is fangrast

523
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<v Speaker 1>w p A. But Detroit has uh minus almost minus five.

524
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot.

525
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot.

526
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot for before the All Star break.

527
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 1>That's like like the Angels are within the Angels are

528
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 1>within shouting distance. The next closest teams, the Royals are

529
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 1>close to minus three.

530
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean not that you want to be in.

531
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 1>It is a staggering yeah like level of bad performance.

532
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Right and again this should be a market where they

533
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 1>can go fix that. Luke Weaver should be good for

534
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 1>this team, right like and and probably not cost a

535
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<v Speaker 1>ton right And they have some pieces.

536
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's a weird system now because.

537
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It's weird system, but they have these like semi catcher guys.

538
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And look you have Dylan Dingler who looks like the

539
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>real deal. You can you can move. You might not

540
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>want to, but you can move Tehran Lorenzo or jo

541
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they've done this year.

542
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 2>But Lorenzo like isn't even really a catcher anymore. Bersania

543
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>is back now, but he's been hurt.

544
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>You can afford relievers like they don't even they don't

545
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 3>even need great relievers. They just need relievers. You can

546
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>get those.

547
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you said they could use Luke Weaver, which they could.

548
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>They could also use like a J.

549
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Minter. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean again, I think

550
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 1>they fit that pirate's mold of Yeah, the way that

551
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the deadline is breaking seemingly at least, it's something that

552
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>could really come to them in a way. And and

553
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Troy Melton looks really good.

554
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not shocked, but I'm surprised these are this

555
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>guy as a starter.

556
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 1>He's just not walking anybody. Had a great start against

557
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees, obviously, you know Aaron judge him, but his

558
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>not his most recent start, that was yesterday.

559
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But I mean though the Tigers, like part of the

560
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Tigers surge has been this. They beat the Yankees every

561
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>time they play them, but they're done playing them now.

562
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I don't know, I think this is uh.

563
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Tigers should be selling the Red Sox,

564
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 1>who are ahead of the Tigers by two in the

565
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 1>lost column. I don't know if I feel the same way.

566
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the they're twelve back in the division

567
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>is part of it, right, Like the Tigers just have more.

568
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It's here because they can also win the ale Central,

569
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>where the Red Sox are not going to win the

570
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Ale Central no matter, no matter, no matter how fraudulent

571
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Craig thinks.

572
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The Rays are there, they are putting they are not

573
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 1>that fraudt Yeah.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very funny too because again, like this, you

575
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned the Twins, right, like I do.

576
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Twins have been bad in my mind the entire season.

577
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's the thing. It's like like I knew

578
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>at one point they'd gotten five hundred, and then like

579
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 2>last I looked they were six under or something, so

580
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I just thought they were still there.

581
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.839
<v Speaker 1>You have mental image of the Twins is also ran.

582
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>You have a seven and three week or ten games

583
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>week and a half, like you're you're just going to

584
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>be there, like the gravitational pull of the wild card

585
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>three is just there for you.

586
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes Cody Clemens puts you on his back. Sometimes Cody

587
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Clemens puts you on his back.

588
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Obviously this isn't around the horn, but shockingly Byron Buckston

589
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>has gone yeah back on the il there. But you

590
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>look at the I'm excuse specifically on the Red Sox

591
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Craig because of our good friend Brady who has been

592
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>the entire season in the Fray Kids discorgeous, like not

593
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>losing his bund but just being very frustrated with things

594
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like Mickey Gasper batting lead off and stuff like that.

595
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm with him on that.

596
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>But you look at the last month or so, like

597
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>there's getting enough from the offense.

598
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Now not show up in the seasonal lines.

599
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, like Caleb obviously, you know Wilson Contreras

600
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is an all star.

601
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Now well I also think like Wilson and Treris starting

602
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 1>fight and look, the last one was justified. I'm not

603
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 1>sure debating that, but starting fights and getting into stuff,

604
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's also being your best player kind of being

605
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a prick. Yeah. Frustrating, Yeah, frustrating season.

606
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Like Saddane rapie Ella is just like having the Saddana

607
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>rafael A season.

608
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 1>This is not the Sudan Saidan raphael season. It is.

609
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>He's got a one twenty oh ps plus. That's phenomenal.

610
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the one sixty io is a little little more

611
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<v Speaker 3>than you.

612
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was one sixty five last year. The

613
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>difference is bad. It has gone up sixty points. I

614
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how sustainable. Actually, you know, notable. It's notable.

615
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:25.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how sustainable it is.

616
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>But you know, count Jared Durand to remember who he is. Yeah,

617
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>they really can. I mean again, will Your is just

618
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>will having will Your season?

619
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Will You's having a Wilrior season. Uh, you know

620
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>again the observing Suarez also just injured, but has been

621
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 2>quite good for them. Jake Bennett, Let's talk about Jake Bennett.

622
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Jake Bennett.

623
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I really like that trade for them, And well, yeah,

624
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>ye again, I don't think I don't think he's I

625
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's this good. I do not think he

626
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to maintain a sub zero point five home

627
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>runs for nine and that park pitching like he does,

628
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>but pretty good. Sonny Gray Likenny Gray is kind of

629
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Trek Schooble spot now of like do you

630
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>really you want to trade Sonny Gray? Like we're only

631
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>two weeks removed from Sonny Gray saying he might.

632
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Wait when you look at their pitching. I think, is

633
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Roman Anthony ever coming back? Do we know? I don't know,

634
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>because they could really use him. Speaking of guys who

635
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 1>should be hitting lead off, right, like Peyton totally has

636
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the mass Pike has.

637
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>He's just not been missing bats, but he's been fine.

638
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Not recently, but he's got eighty stretch outs in eighty innings.

639
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 1>That's not bad.

640
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Early has been Early.

641
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Is hurt but again looking pretty good. Like you get

642
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Sonny Gay, Sonny Gray, Ranger Suarez who again was good

643
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 1>until the most recent injury, and then these three arms

644
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 1>young arms coming out for you with Early again also

645
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 1>hurt totally, and Bennett like once they got Bao out

646
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of this rotation. Yeah right, I mean, like this this

647
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 1>is a pitch. Part of the reason I would say,

648
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>like you don't necessarily I know, I said, I don't

649
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>feel the same way as I do about Detroit. I

650
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 1>don't feel as strongly, but I think if you wanted

651
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to say, don't sell this, this could be a force

652
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs. With this kind of pitching. The infield

653
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 1>is still ye especially it's awful League. I like that

654
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you did just Combine and Caleb.

655
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Obviously it has been great. But the breadth of that.

656
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Is I should know this off the top of my

657
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>head and I don't. But like, is is there anyone

658
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 1>trade wise they could I mean, it seems like they're

659
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>committed to not replacing Trevor Store. I know he's on

660
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the aisle, so that's not the issue right now, but

661
00:35:53.880 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>like in general, but like it doesn't where can they

662
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>go from here? I don't. I don't know if is

663
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 1>there a middle infielder, Like it's you know, not really.

664
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 3>I joked about Jeff McNeil later in the doc, but

665
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, Durban is still below you know,

666
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 3>underwater on the season, but eight sixty nine ops over

667
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 3>those last twenty eight dance that's part of this.

668
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>This team performing better.

669
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not just it's not just Story being bad and

670
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>hurt like Meyer has also.

671
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, they've been getting by with Anthony Siegler. Yeah,

672
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 3>they will probably not continue to get by with Anthony

673
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Siegler.

674
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Switch throwing catcher, first rounder from like twelve years ago

675
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is now.

676
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Probably Yeah, they've curls and narvass is falling apart, but

677
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 3>they've it's been okay because Connor Wong has just decided

678
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to hit for a couple of months.

679
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 2>That's probably he does that every year, that everywhere.

680
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but only a couple of months.

681
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Only a couple of months.

682
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're up the expiration date his head. Yeah. Yeah.

683
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 1>To me, there's like I feel more comfortable with Detroit.

684
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>There's so many holes in this Boston lineup especially. Yeah,

685
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the pitching's great, but man, well you.

686
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Said, but like the Tiger's outfield outside of Riley Green

687
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 2>is like really bad.

688
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Also has Yeah, and.

689
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>They have the inverse problem where their first basement and

690
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>third baseman.

691
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Have not been good.

692
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Those are probably easier positions to just find a one

693
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 2>oh five ops plus stop gap in July than second.

694
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Basements is a one o five ops guy.

695
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

696
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Fair, And that's the difference is that the Red Sox

697
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.039
<v Speaker 1>problems have been black holes, right, Even Tigers good problems

698
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 1>have been potholes. Yeah, right, like they are not I

699
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 1>mean in the infield anyway, right, Like cold Keith is

700
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 1>a problem. He's also a ninety ops plus guy thus

701
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>far in the season. Not right, you can live with that,

702
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and easier to believe that he'd be one hundred going forward, right,

703
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can buy it with Marcel

704
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Mayer anymore. And to your to your point on the outfield,

705
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 1>like Matt Matt Verlin and ones Paris have been the

706
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>black holes. But like Kerry Carpenter was hurt and he's

707
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>healthy again and he's not crushing it like he has

708
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 1>in the past. But one you know, one one eleven

709
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>ops plus sorry, like that's that's a significant improvement, right,

710
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 1>that's enough of improvement. And look, you can run him

711
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 1>out in a corner outfield spot. Your defense is bad.

712
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Fine, But and the other thing is like the Red Sox,

713
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 2>like Wilson Contreras has been better than any of the

714
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Tigers hitters, but you have that, you know, the Dingler McGonagall,

715
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Riley Glean uh hard back again. Yeah, it's just like

716
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit deeper to sequence stuff.

717
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, this team needs Taylor Ward. I know,

718
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 1>if Taylor right, but the Orioles aren't selling, the Orioles

719
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>should sell. They've lost three in a row, and they

720
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 1>won three in a row and then lost three three.

721
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think the other thing is that, yes,

722
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 3>they need a Ray fielder, they need a dh Those

723
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 3>things are going to be easier to find than Boston's

724
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 3>problems in the middle endfield.

725
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is Patrick gonna you just discuss this with

726
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Ginny and our chapel, Like this is when we would

727
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>start to win our deadline dreaming kind of stuff. But

728
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's such a weird deadline. It's hard to know.

729
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to do it. But maybe we should do

730
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it by team instead of playing you know, players. See

731
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>what these guys can can turn up. I did skip

732
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 1>to the Tigers out of you know, a sense of

733
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 1>a useful transition. But the Marlins are also in a

734
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>playoff spot right now. They are tied. They are tied

735
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>with the Phillies. They are fifty one and forty two.

736
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 1>They have been.

737
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 2>They are actually, in a more real sense, surging fifteen and.

738
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Four in their last nineteen games. I was gonna say

739
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it is it is a win five, same as the

740
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox. They are seven and three in the last ten,

741
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>same as the Tigers.

742
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 2>So let's you know again, I don't I know how

743
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 2>they are doing this, but like none of this feels

744
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>real to me.

745
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Kyle so Towers has come off the eye

746
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.199
<v Speaker 1>all and hit Yeah, that's part of it. Otto Lopez

747
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 1>still hitting three forty five, William Hickson, Mike just I

748
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.679
<v Speaker 1>think I'm not gonna say anyone's gonna hit three forty five.

749
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 1>I think Lopez is legitimately good.

750
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 2>For sure, but like, to me, it's that I don't

751
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>know how they're doing. This is more like the starting pitching. Yeah,

752
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 2>like they don't like you run out of names literally

753
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 2>very quickly.

754
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a five person rotation. I mean the first

755
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.599
<v Speaker 1>three names have all been really good.

756
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, Max Meyer has been really good, Like Tyler Phillips

757
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>like keeps Tyler Phillips is basically.

758
00:40:59.000 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Getting away with it.

759
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, very much.

760
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, he's a worse chance and Junk. I don't

761
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like Sandy al Contra has not been that great. Tovanas

762
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 1>he's eaten ins, Yeah he does. Your Perez has been Yeah,

763
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 1>he's been.

764
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Still he's a little home run prone still, but like

765
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>he's been good.

766
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

767
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like I was I can't remember what

768
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to about this, but oh, the Blue Jays, Like.

769
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a lot easier to look at these teams.

770
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 3>When they come to the deadline when you need a

771
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 3>number four starter than when you need a number two starter.

772
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 3>And the Blue Jays are in the same situation they

773
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 3>have three good starters, there's a you can fourth starters

774
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>can be had now a Marlins buying anything, but you

775
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 3>could like, if the Marlins are buying anything, they could

776
00:41:58.960 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 3>get a fourth starter.

777
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>They could get a.

778
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh I can't remember who I looked up to fit

779
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 3>the bill, but.

780
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Trying to think, oh, bratty singer, like pretty singer would.

781
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Be fine, especially that'd be a nice, much friendlier park

782
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 2>for him to pick.

783
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. With the Marlins was always the question of the.

784
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Actually do anything right and then like if they don't,

785
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>how long can they keep doing this? And it's it's

786
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 2>funny because like they've been.

787
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>It would be kind of a shame if they didn't.

788
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Like they've been. They're in a really good spot and

789
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like they've got if they could really use a center fielder, yes,

790
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>has been awful.

791
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, and like they've like this is on some level,

792
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say deserved, but like they've been.

793
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>They're like the sixth best offense and tenth best pitching staff.

794
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 2>But I also like, I don't know how.

795
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 3>Exactly I mean, they have both Leo Jimenez and Estuary Ruiz.

796
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, not that I remembered that.

797
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean they're just they're getting Look, we've

798
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 4>talked about their approach of like Stours and Casey, these

799
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>guys that are slug forward whatever, but they're getting not

800
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 4>great seasons, but relatively good.

801
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like Owen Casey is a one ten ops plots,

802
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 1>he also is a two ninety seven opp.

803
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, is one good for him?

804
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

805
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 3>He's good lately, will like somebody somebody's sitting well, well

806
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 3>they're going.

807
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 2>For their bullpen has been like okay, but not in

808
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 2>a way where you're like, okay, well, they're just winning

809
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 2>more close games.

810
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>How much do you believe in Michael Peterson and John King? Right?

811
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 2>And like I think Calvin helm is a hilarious line

812
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 2>nine and a half strikeouts for nine, six walks for nine,

813
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 2>but he has given up a homer all season. Yeah,

814
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and like Fairbanks hasn't been good either.

815
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>No, it's Michael Peterson, Yeah, yes, who was a Dodgers

816
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>cast off. Yeah, right, like a guy they could not

817
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 1>keep on the forty man who's been legitimately good.

818
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a what disease a British petroleum it's the

819
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 2>nickname good nickname.

820
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh that is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and

821
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 1>and John King? I mean those are those are really

822
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the two guys?

823
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I like John King.

824
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It's fine.

825
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I like John King. It's like the fourth best reliever

826
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>in your pen.

827
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. The question is I think there's

828
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a case the Marlins like shouldn't go in, But the

829
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>question is who behind him really deserve it either.

830
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess the Cardinals could catch them and might catch them.

831
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean the Cardinal will just continue to bas late

832
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 2>between four and seven games over and the Marlins.

833
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>The Cardinals are two games back and also have some

834
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>identifiable like look, if they could get.

835
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>A second of teams, they could use four starters, but they.

836
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Need the two a second starter. And I think for that,

837
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of funny because they're both.

838
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're at different points in the rebuild, and

839
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the Marlins were just always going to have a longer

840
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>rebuild because they're the Marlins. But also it does feel

841
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>like both teams are like a year too early here,

842
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's like how hard do you push in a

843
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>year too early? This is like what the twenty twenty

844
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 2>that's Orioles question.

845
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 1>That's almost every team running The Marlins, the Cardinals the Nationals.

846
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the and also the Marlins are

847
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>always they're like about eight years overdue. But like then

848
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you have the Pirates and then okay, then you hit

849
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the Padres and Diamondbacks, who are yeah, just disappointing.

850
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Just ta yeah, and you like we're discussing this in

851
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the just if that's true.

852
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the teams behind them, like why not do it?

853
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Then you're in the whole position because.

854
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>A jpreler might just buy all five games back, like

855
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 2>he's very capable of doing that.

856
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 1>They're also, by the way, there are three games back

857
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of the division. That's not out of the question.

858
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 2>The Braves are kind of a mess.

859
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Atlanta and Philadelphia are both better than Miami.

860
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I do, but we're in late early July.

861
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Being the Marlins. There is value in like even a

862
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 2>token show of going for it here, yes, and like

863
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>there is value in like making the the other thing

864
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 2>was like the Marlins, as I look at.

865
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 1>This, also just go get a first baseman. Yeah, now,

866
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>but is there any center fielder that they can.

867
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't because of the I don't know, both

868
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>on a overall outcome level and a sequencing outcome level.

869
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>If you can really project them all this again.

870
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Next you go get Jack McCarthy from from there, the Rockies.

871
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe he can hit outside of course, he's

872
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 1>having a nice season. Yeah, I don't think he can

873
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>hit outside of course, but.

874
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna around a lot of problems there. Get Mickey Moniac.

875
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I also don't think he can hit us, of course. Yeah,

876
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just think that, like you said,

877
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 1>like making a token effort seems about right here, and

878
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I and I think he could end up with them

879
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 1>in a six yeah, the sixth playoff spot. Like, I

880
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's out of the question. This lineup is

881
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>better than you.

882
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Think, right They're they're kind of there's a little bit

883
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 2>of like match energy here too. When they get on base,

884
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of pain to deal with.

885
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean Edwards and Lopez get on base. Yes, Edwards

886
00:47:57.920 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 1>is at three eighty six and Lopez is at three

887
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 1>seventy five, and they're on base percentage, and then they

888
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>have the guys who slot like, yes, oh, in case,

889
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make a lot of outs, he's.

890
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Gonna but he's gonna hit the occasional three run home

891
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>run and now.

892
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Way exactly and as Patrick said, and we kind of

893
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.639
<v Speaker 1>blew by it. But like Liam Hicks, Yeah, Liam Hicks

894
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is just he's got a one thirty oh ps plus. Yeah,

895
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 1>we're in July.

896
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like he's just doing strikeout right, that might.

897
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>He sure does, but he has more importantly is a

898
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>sixty percent non strikeout right, and that's all whop, it's

899
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the all or nothing, but like this is the right

900
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. But but also what Liam Hicks was a

901
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 1>rule five last year, right, yep, yep. That's a hell

902
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of a five. Yep.

903
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>That wow, that's is he just what's his che I.

904
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Love the five runs, and I said the odds of

905
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 3>him hitting another five are about as good as him

906
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 3>staying at five the rest of the year.

907
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you finish your thought here, Jeffrey, and

908
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 1>then try and move us along. Yeah yeah, oh no.

909
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, look, one case, he has dropped his chase

910
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>raight under thirty percent, which I did not think he

911
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>would do. Embraces, So he's just striking out on pitches

912
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>in the zone. John kindact breaks seventy nine.

913
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, badly, So he's just watching pitches in the zone.

914
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's dropped his swing rate a lot. He has

915
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 2>gone from swinging again. It's a small sample of sides

916
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>with actually have to look at the triple A numbers.

917
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like.

918
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's just like everything is he's but just

919
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 2>below average enough at everything that adds up to a strikeout,

920
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.480
<v Speaker 2>right basically, Okay, Yeah, we're.

921
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to our bileak weekly Al West check and

922
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>we're still in you're telling you.

923
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 2>That nobody, nobody is surging, but everyone has.

924
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Sadly, sadly, there is a chance. Yes, literally, the top

925
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>four teams in this have a streak that starts with

926
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 1>an L. Yeah. If you look at the standings, the

927
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Mariners are on top by half a game. They want THEE.

928
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I know we all keep waiting for

929
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners to get to like six yelds. Now, I'm

930
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>had to, Well, you're here when you're stuck with us

931
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Patrick one way to the other, you're along for the

932
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Ride's look, any team can play what are their seventy

933
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 2>games left in the season. Any team can play forty

934
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 2>and thirty baseball the rest of the way. That's not

935
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like that good, right, right, But none of these teams

936
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 2>are that good.

937
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that we're wrong to just keep

938
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 1>waiting for the Mariners. It might never happen, but I

939
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>think that's the right play, so to speak. They actually

940
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>have a positive run differential, for example. I again, I

941
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 1>have not checked in on them.

942
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Exactly nothing. Still, yeah, this is not exactly I know

943
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 2>he missed time. This is not a small sample size

944
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 2>of him being bad anymore. It's two sixty three plate appearances.

945
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, and he played a lot last year. He did.

946
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Emerson and Young have come up and been fine, like

947
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>league average hitters, which is, I guess better than they

948
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>would have had.

949
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean better better than the tal Rawley's line against

950
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>left handers. I've been a different split to tell you guys.

951
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, go ahead, one two thirty seven five. That's bad,

952
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Luke Rayley.

953
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Over the last twenty eight days one sixty three, two

954
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.039
<v Speaker 3>eighty six, it was.

955
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Fun, It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. But Patrick has dominic

956
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Ken Zone doings still good, still really good.

957
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like the pitching just hasn't. The pitching has

958
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>been fine, but they've entered a year where they need

959
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>the pitching to be better than fine. Basically.

960
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, Canzone and Rose Reina have been

961
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>fantastic Brandon Donovan has been a good one on the fields,

962
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 1>he's just not on the field. He sounds like he's

963
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 1>starting to rehab assignment soon.

964
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Logan and Gilbert might be like the most underwhelming All

965
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Star snub, Like he probably deserves it, and also it's

966
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 3>hard to he'll probably still get in with some other

967
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.559
<v Speaker 3>people decide they can't pitch. Like he's technically had a

968
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 3>good year. It does not feel like it at all.

969
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I don't know. It's it's a it's a weird team.

970
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. Yeah, it's not a particularly enjoyable team.

971
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 2>And again, like nothing has changed with the Ragers. Wyatt

972
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Langford was back on the IL. Josh Young is somehow

973
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:55.960
<v Speaker 2>not on the IL and still hitting.

974
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got Josh Smith back sure from the IL.

975
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>He's in the minors, isn't it.

976
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they did option him options.

977
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>They also optioned him. I think I know he had

978
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>an injury. He I think he's been better since coming back,

979
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>is what I was going to say.

980
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Wherever it's it's like they have a slightly better offense

981
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 2>than the Mariners and slightly worst pitching staff.

982
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Basically, yeah, Mackenzie Gore, Uh, that trades looking real rough

983
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 3>so far.

984
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Which is wild too, because like he's basically been.

985
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Basically it's like slightly worse. I guess run suppression.

986
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it is. Mackenzie Gore's All Star appearents

987
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>going to seem weird in retrospect because he just had

988
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that incredible half the season.

989
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.639
<v Speaker 2>And there are guys like that. It's not a career

990
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 2>four point two eighty r A at this point. Like

991
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 2>they take so many pitchers. Yeah, I guess, so, I

992
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>just don't am And they asked again, that's just are

993
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>also still just around.

994
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 3>When they win, they win by one or two, and

995
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 3>when they lose, they lose by the.

996
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Minus forty eight run front real.

997
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Obviously Jeremy Pania had gotten healthy and good and then

998
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 2>stopped being healthy.

999
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh, they have one so in the in the last month,

1000
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 3>they have won two games by more than two runs.

1001
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 2>That's wild. It's not like it's a great bullpen either.

1002
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>One of them was three runs. It's a it's a

1003
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>very weird if you, by the way, if you if

1004
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to go get a first basement Christian Walker. Yeah, yeah,

1005
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>they're Houston is not gonna.

1006
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're gonna. They're talking about like being in

1007
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the trek Schooba market.

1008
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're not gonna sell very.

1009
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Probably they're very unpredictavir nions.

1010
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's like monopoly when you.

1011
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Do get name the amar Ochoa.

1012
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah.

1013
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I think like Kevin Alvarez is their best prospect and

1014
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 2>he's not. Yeah, he's not gonna headline of schoople trade,

1015
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 2>and it might be the second piece of Schooble trade

1016
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 2>if you had a better first piece. But as mentioned,

1017
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>he might be the best.

1018
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 1>This team being I don't even want to call him good.

1019
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 1>But like even in the range of ivan, this regaon

1020
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 1>is under five hundreds is staggering to me.

1021
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just this is It's just this is an example

1022
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of if you put enough decent players around a guy

1023
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 2>having a ten win season.

1024
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's not there's there's like Jeremy ping is having

1025
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 1>a very nice season.

1026
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Is hurting Parade is having the parade a season?

1027
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know what with the Crawford boxes, like

1028
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 1>he should be ten percent better than this. I get like,

1029
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 1>it's not even he's a it's fourteen percent better than

1030
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>league average, But the Crawford boxes, the guy who pulls

1031
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the ball in the air all the time. He should

1032
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>be better than that. And then it's Christian Walker. Everyone

1033
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 1>else is like.

1034
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Paradis also got off to a horrible start, so

1035
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 2>he didn't.

1036
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Yea, that's fair, but like it's it's I mean, Bryce

1037
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Matthews is bad. Everything else here is not. I thought

1038
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be good after his his good season bad. Yeah,

1039
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean every everyone, it's just your non Alvarez it is.

1040
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like the pitching has been fine.

1041
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Like they just had to option Mike Burrows. They's been

1042
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so fine they had to send him.

1043
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 2>To the uh you know they have hater back now

1044
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>and he's been good. Yeah, and like the rest he

1045
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>throws one. I mean, I know, I'm just saying that

1046
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>that's probably how they're winning some of these close games.

1047
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Like the pen is not like she has been okay, Okay,

1048
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Brown is off the I L and he okay,

1049
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you can count on him. I know, am I has

1050
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 1>been a little bit better of Like he has a

1051
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.760
<v Speaker 1>six e r A Y in the season. Peter Lambert

1052
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 1>legitimate development there or five e r A.

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00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not it's about right, I think for him.

1054
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 1>But also it just walks too many guys. I mean,

1055
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's bad, but walk too many guys.

1056
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 2>This is not They've turned a J. Bluebaugh into a

1057
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty good reliever. Yeah, they're relieve their relievers. They're both

1058
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 2>actually is pretty good looking at this now. Like again,

1059
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how sustainable.

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00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's with Brian being terrible. Yeah, who had been

1061
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>an elite reliever up until this point. Yeah, what a

1062
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>way to find out Nate Pearson is in the majors.

1063
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 1>There you go. I mean who knew? Yeah, but he

1064
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>is here. Uh yeah, I don't know. They're getting a

1065
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>very nice uh stretch out of a limber Santa.

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00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like a limber Santa a little bit. That's

1067
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like a middle reliever.

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00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh he's a one one seven. You're a well striking

1069
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:49.079
<v Speaker 1>out five per nine.

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00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, he'll strike out more than that, I

1071
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 2>think one would.

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00:57:54.599 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Hope. Let's take a break. Well, so, yeah, but we'll

1073
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 1>make it quick. You're in the audience longer than leaving.

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00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.079
<v Speaker 1>The buck should sell and have nothing to sell. Yeah,

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00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. On that note, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and we'll be back with the rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the episode five hundred and sixty one

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00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 1>of five and dive. We're on segment three going around

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00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the Horn. Bad news in Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's not just

1080
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that Dennis Santana has entered the game that is bad

1081
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:54.159
<v Speaker 1>news in Pittsburgh. But Connor Griffin has a torn ligament

1082
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 1>in his hand. Looks to be out until late in

1083
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the season. We'll say it sounds like this is something

1084
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>he could conceivably play through. You don't want if you're

1085
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the Pirates, what's up?

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00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to make him play day that.

1087
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't want it? Right, No, you don't. The Orioles too, Yeah,

1088
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>but the Pirates don't. I think that's the right call.

1089
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>It's also a pretty devastating call to have to make, right. Yeah,

1090
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, he's been stellar.

1091
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 2>The Pirates just going to end up. I mean they

1092
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>they could use him. But yes, he was also better

1093
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 2>before the first injury.

1094
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he had he he had been doing

1095
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 1>well right his last twenty I guess it's it's eight

1096
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>games or whatever you do. He had been doing pretty

1097
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>well before this. He's allowing a round league average on

1098
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the season, but he also gave you some upside to

1099
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:57.719
<v Speaker 1>go with it. Yeah, and the replacement is literally Jared Triola.

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00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It is always and there's no there's no around the

1101
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 1>average there, and there's no upside there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they just going to be sellers? Is that what's

1103
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>going to happen if they have the time to sell?

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01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:16.679
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think so. Yeah, No, I don't think.

1105
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 1>I think the Pirates too, How can you?

1106
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, but they're running into is they've kind of hung

1107
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>around five hundred and they're now in the wrong league

1108
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to be hanging around five hundred.

1109
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's no obvious, like clear upgrade other than

1110
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like just there are fours out of a wild card

1111
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 1>spot and the two teams in between them and the

1112
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 1>spot are or three teams excuse me, are the Nationals,

1113
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals and then the Marlins. I don't I don't think

1114
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you can just now, look, the Pirates don't care about

1115
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>justifiably doing anything. I mean, but would you particularly be

1116
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>better than the Padres rest of the way like right there?

1117
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like that. I don't know either, but you're

1118
01:00:58.039 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 2>comparing them to the Pirates, So.

1119
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think Look, the I don't know,

1120
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten Jared Jones back. He obviously looked good this

1121
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 1>last time out. It's been uneven, to say the least.

1122
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Buba Chandler's entire season has been uneven. Yeah, Paul Skeens

1123
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>has been giving a lot back of late he hash

1124
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and Mitch Keller has been giving it giving it back

1125
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 1>all season.

1126
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 2>But Kemer Majinsky still yeah, but I just also added

1127
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 2>to the All Star Game roster.

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01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Has has been good. It's weird to say that the

1129
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>problem with the Pirates is on the pitching side, but

1130
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:44.679
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be the case. They're getting solid years

1131
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>out of Nick Gonzales, out of Brian Reynolds, who I

1132
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 1>frankly was cooked. I mean, that's more than solid. He's

1133
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.840
<v Speaker 1>been very good. Ryan O'Hearn, who I liked that signing,

1134
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>has been very good.

1135
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Lowe obviously like he's has been. Yeah, but he's

1136
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>settled in as words, once again hurt but went healthy.

1137
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah good. They have an absolute black hole at d

1138
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 1>H and catcher.

1139
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>If I gets healthy, yeah, Andy Ryder Guess is now

1140
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 2>hurt as well.

1141
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:22.199
<v Speaker 1>So exactly if if Ryan Jeffers gets healthy, yeah, they

1142
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 1>should be extremely in on him right the playoffs. But

1143
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, right like that kind of

1144
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 1>they need to be Maybe they need to be in

1145
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.400
<v Speaker 1>on Hunter Goodman, who the pirates are going Like, I'm

1146
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing, but as a joke, as a joke,

1147
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:46.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe they need to be in on Francisco Alvarez Jeffrey. Yeah,

1148
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 1>apparently the point is you can address that. Yeah, I

1149
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 1>think you can definitely find somebody. I guess they're not

1150
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 1>going to trade him, I guess, but go get Josh

1151
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Bell again. Right, well whatever, find a DH. Find someone

1152
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.480
<v Speaker 1>who's not as bad as Marcello Zuna at DH. Mark

1153
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Biento's is available, I said, not as bad as Marcelo's Inna.

1154
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the problem, the problem, and the problem they

1155
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 1>can't really fix is the pitching side. So they can

1156
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>go get relievers, like I said, but you just kind

1157
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of have to stick with this rotation group and say,

1158
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I hope it gets better. Yep. I just closed my

1159
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 1>eyes for a second and I thought my deck deck. Yeah, sorry,

1160
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.519
<v Speaker 1>keep going, It's all right. Wilson Contreras, we mentioned he's

1161
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 1>going to the Ulstar Game and going to participate in

1162
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the home run derby. Doesn't seem like a home run

1163
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:36.880
<v Speaker 1>derby guy.

1164
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 2>To me, it's just a pretty hard But yeah, sure,

1165
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just not the guy.

1166
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 1>The guy. The guy who's going to the home run

1167
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>derby that seems like a home run derby guy to

1168
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 1>me is Jordan Walker.

1169
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean, I just I'm just looking forward to

1170
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 2>him painting like twenty home runs four hundred and thirty

1171
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 2>feet all to like right.

1172
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 1>And frankly, the rule a rule change to to swings

1173
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:06.239
<v Speaker 1>is probably to Walker's benefit. Yeah, because he's he's really strong.

1174
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.639
<v Speaker 1>He's got a long swing. But those guys when they

1175
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>have to swing a lot, which they did for for

1176
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the timed ones, tire out real quickly. And this thing

1177
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.239
<v Speaker 1>where he can conserve and just it's the swings that

1178
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he takes that that count. I mean, I think you

1179
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.239
<v Speaker 1>can hit it out to he in in Citizens Bank,

1180
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 1>He's going to hit it out anywhere you can go,

1181
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 1>opposite field, doesn't matter. He can mishit it and get

1182
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it out in that ballpark.

1183
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I also think like it helps like Camon Arrow has

1184
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the long max effort swing like more than anybody, so

1185
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:39.000
<v Speaker 2>just being able to pick.

1186
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.000
<v Speaker 1>His well, yeah, and then he's he's the the swing

1187
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 1>speed guy. It's it's fair. I guess Walker swings really hard.

1188
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:48.480
<v Speaker 3>To Walker second CA's first walker, second, O'Neil Cruiz is third,

1189
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 3>Wilson Contreras tenth.

1190
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Now he's no Garrett Mitchell, Well, maybe that does honestly,

1191
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and this park probably helps Contreras more than and some

1192
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:58.119
<v Speaker 1>of those. Do we have anyone else in the All

1193
01:04:58.119 --> 01:04:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Star Game? Is it just the three?

1194
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:00.639
<v Speaker 2>The only three an ounce so far?

1195
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 1>They mean they needed cam Smith, should be should be

1196
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in the homework. My understanding is Schwarber and Harper are

1197
01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 1>considering it. It would make sense if at least one

1198
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 1>of them did it, given it to the hometown.

1199
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Shorter's done it before, like.

1200
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so as Harper won it in this last hometown

1201
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:23.679
<v Speaker 1>round under questionable circumstances in uh in Washington.

1202
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I assume we'll get Hunter Goodman in it, which sure.

1203
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure he's not. He was I think came in.

1204
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Ben Rice said he was considering doing it too.

1205
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 1>This is news to me. But Tyler Tolbert inside the

1206
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:53.000
<v Speaker 1>consecutive hits, yeah, I mean he he played, he played

1207
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the Mouts, He played the Mets, okay, I.

1208
01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Think went five for five diet and then then failed

1209
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to break it in his sixth at bat in that

1210
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.519
<v Speaker 2>sixteen to twelve game, yeah.

1211
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, not all of them were in field hits.

1212
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Every single one I saw was an in field hit. Yeah,

1213
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot of dribblers, a lot of like it was

1214
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 3>a real Tyler Tolbert record.

1215
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's good, like this is great.

1216
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's great that the last two guys to have done

1217
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 3>this are Tyler Tolbert and Roberto Clemente. Yeah, nothing better

1218
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 3>than for baseball?

1219
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 1>What was what was Joey? Was it on on base

1220
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:35.119
<v Speaker 1>or was it hits Joey Weimer to start the season right,

1221
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 1>as Jeffrey mentioned Byron, Buxton has a hip strand and

1222
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:43.920
<v Speaker 1>has landed on the injured list.

1223
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, yep, yep the Twins or hey Polanco off

1224
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:53.000
<v Speaker 2>the eye out is.

1225
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You ain't a home run in his first game? Right?

1226
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:58.000
<v Speaker 2>No he didn't, well he did.

1227
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.840
<v Speaker 1>They called it back for Ashley being found and he walked,

1228
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 1>oh right right right right, I don't yeah, have anything

1229
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to add to this. He's back, He's back, okay, back

1230
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Wood Druff's dead arm is dead dead? What what is that? So?

1231
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this morning it was revealed the different they have found,

1232
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 3>they have found where it is and it's not good. Okay,

1233
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.039
<v Speaker 3>so he is almost certainly out for the year. Yeah,

1234
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 3>which I guess you could have assumed, but now it's official.

1235
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:35.960
<v Speaker 1>That is a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. And lastly, Cooper Ingle

1236
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 1>is option back to triple.

1237
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I I am so annoyed by this. He's out for

1238
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 2>the mid season fifty he's not gonna make it, but

1239
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm still I literally went through the list yesterday to see,

1240
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.840
<v Speaker 2>like who was over, Who isn't going to be a

1241
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.119
<v Speaker 2>chance to be sent down? But who wasn't over on

1242
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 2>days or at bats or whatever?

1243
01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.480
<v Speaker 1>And then would he have been so would he have

1244
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:04.039
<v Speaker 1>been on it before you got called up? Because I

1245
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 1>don't I was going to say, do we want to

1246
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about his seven game foura into the majors? Yeah?

1247
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:12.920
<v Speaker 1>What a rug? Yeah, ill advised.

1248
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I would say it wasn't I don't think.

1249
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Ninety five. But they called him up to play exclusively left.

1250
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's that part of it.

1251
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't say there was the like they.

1252
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Needed another possibly league average bat, and I'm a little

1253
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:32.359
<v Speaker 2>surprised they pulled the PLT, Like, I don't think it's

1254
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 2>going to matter a ton, but we might not be

1255
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 2>trading Mark Bianto's he might have just broke his hand

1256
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:38.159
<v Speaker 2>on a hit.

1257
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 1>By pitch.

1258
01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:46.600
<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, I mean I get it, like and

1259
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 2>they I guess they got the laughter back right and

1260
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in here too, so that they did that helps,

1261
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Like they get to like, you don't want to you

1262
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to guild the lily too much. As the

1263
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Guardians lineup like three or four above average hitters, is fine,

1264
01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:04.079
<v Speaker 2>like you don't anymore, you know, very weird.

1265
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 1>That takes us to what to watch. It's a tough week.

1266
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I got to the doc last and thought I had

1267
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 2>two options, so it's.

1268
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, wait till you hear who Patrick and I picked.

1269
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll start. Yeah, I went with the Blue Jays at

1270
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the Padres. This is a this is a they're having.

1271
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's also like it's like moving Day at Augusta right,

1272
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:34.600
<v Speaker 2>like you got it, you gotta that is time. Somebody's

1273
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.720
<v Speaker 2>got to win this series and whoever doesn't like Yeah,

1274
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and neither.

1275
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Of them want to, which they don't even get the

1276
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:45.920
<v Speaker 1>villain Ces Revenge Game because Toronto is throwing out three tvds. Yeah,

1277
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of tvds in the schedule, and the

1278
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Padres are throwing out JP sears, Walker Bueler and Herman.

1279
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Marpigino, Guys, I had no idea were on the teams

1280
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 2>that they're on.

1281
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 1>JP series came out and and uh, yeah, what I

1282
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 1>think one the Dodgers in his uh his addict. Yeah, yeah,

1283
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.720
<v Speaker 1>but this is like, these teams need to figure it out.

1284
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the Padres have figured out. I think the

1285
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Blue Jays need to figure it out, right, I think

1286
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the Padres have figured it out, and it's that they're bad. Yeah,

1287
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think the Padres are making

1288
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. I think the Blue jay is still could

1289
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 1>still probably should, but they need to get it together.

1290
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's kind of where I was on that.

1291
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not that they're they're two good teams.

1292
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yep, I picked Sacramento at Chicago the White Sox.

1293
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 3>This is some big dumb baseball. I don't know who's

1294
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 3>pitching for the Athletics and I don't care I who's

1295
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.239
<v Speaker 3>pitching for the White Sox. It's just gonna be That's

1296
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a that's a great concept.

1297
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Patrick bid baseball, Like, that's a good point to see

1298
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.039
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest players in baseball, Miguel Vargas.

1299
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of people who are not Yeah, Okay.

1300
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Settle down, settle down.

1301
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:10.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I don't you know, it's this if you

1302
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.039
<v Speaker 3>want steaks or something like. The Athletics are just clearly

1303
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 3>done now they've gone one to nine in their last ten.

1304
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.800
<v Speaker 3>They can go ahead and write they don't have to

1305
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:18.800
<v Speaker 3>bother themselves of this.

1306
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And the White Sox are scuffling themselves and could use

1307
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a good seria you use to pick me up, right, Yeah.

1308
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 1>This would be a good pick me up for the

1309
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:26.439
<v Speaker 1>White Sox.

1310
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey, I went with the Astros against the Rangers because,

1311
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like it's actually meaningful in the playoff sense, which.

1312
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Is well also being a mid off. Yeah. I do

1313
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like.

1314
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>We're only a few years removed now from and with

1315
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.239
<v Speaker 2>like all the same players there mostly from this matchup

1316
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 2>having like some rivalry juice. They like, they feel like

1317
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.720
<v Speaker 2>these teams like legitimately didn't like each other. Obviously they

1318
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 2>had that you know, playoff series that got kind of contentious.

1319
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.199
<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe we can get maybe we can get

1320
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.439
<v Speaker 2>a little something out of it. I'm not holding out

1321
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a ton of hope, but the series will just end

1322
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.279
<v Speaker 2>with like one team two games under in one game,

1323
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 2>one one team one game under.

1324
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:18.840
<v Speaker 3>So ye, yeah, I picked the Siccos this time because

1325
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I felt like it, and I picked two playoff teams

1326
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:21.399
<v Speaker 3>playing each other.

1327
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It's still Sickos.

1328
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:25.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a rare combination of the Cleveland Guardians and the

1329
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Miami Marylands.

1330
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1331
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I do think the Miami Marylands are legitimately fairly fun

1332
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 3>to watch. I do not feel that way about the

1333
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Cleveland Guardians.

1334
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:35.439
<v Speaker 1>This is just like, this is just like.

1335
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Fancy is not the right word. This is just like

1336
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Asian fusion raised versus Guardians. Yes, I don't know what.

1337
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I would describe this. It's like reading Thomas Hardy in

1338
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.079
<v Speaker 1>high school. Yeah, this is important New American.

1339
01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:55.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like a new American restaurant. But like but but yeah,

1340
01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like we're doing new American. Yeah, we gotta fancy,

1341
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.720
<v Speaker 2>we gotta fans, we gotta fancy, we gotta fancy burger.

1342
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're our own we do our own pickle relish. Yeah,

1343
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.279
<v Speaker 1>every everyone wears aprons.

1344
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Steak freez. You want steak freaks, We have several. But

1345
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you do a hanger, you do a bavet. We've got options,

1346
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:22.680
<v Speaker 2>we got options. Yeah, would you like would would you

1347
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:28.239
<v Speaker 2>like a garl like aoli or ketchup of course, no,

1348
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:31.640
<v Speaker 2>we don't do Hines. Heines the way better than Hines. No,

1349
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 2>but we don't see going around.

1350
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Just do Hines. It's absolutely correct. If you want ketchup,

1351
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.920
<v Speaker 1>what you want is which I don't know, which is fine.

1352
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:45.239
<v Speaker 1>But then you don't want Housemaide ketchup either, So you

1353
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 1>just either you want Hines or you don't want Ketchup.

1354
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just every every one of these places. Just buy Hines.

1355
01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, you can get it from Cisco.

1356
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Uh, it takes us to our game. Takes

1357
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.680
<v Speaker 1>us to our game. And so this is another game

1358
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:05.600
<v Speaker 1>submitted by intrepid listener a J.

1359
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 3>It's called name that Team. We will see how you do.

1360
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate, thank you, a J. I really really appreciate.

1361
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.479
<v Speaker 1>The game because Deck I did not want to make

1362
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a game last night. All right, we're we're gonna have

1363
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to make a Jeff Decker base game perfect Steve Decker.

1364
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:26.640
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to read

1365
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.920
<v Speaker 3>off a list of player names and you guys are

1366
01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:32.680
<v Speaker 3>going to try and guess what team they played for.

1367
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.319
<v Speaker 3>And by team, I mean both of the year and

1368
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the team. So this is this is uh yeah, once

1369
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.840
<v Speaker 3>you guess. You can come in again once.

1370
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 1>The other person's guest. If the other person refuses to guess,

1371
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:48.560
<v Speaker 1>then I guess it's a tie. I'm sorry. So you're

1372
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:49.760
<v Speaker 1>just you're naming a player.

1373
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna na I'm gonna name a series of players,

1374
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and then you are going to try and figure.

1375
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Out one player. We just have to pick what year

1376
01:14:58.039 --> 01:14:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the team was.

1377
01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm in the list of players in order, and then

1378
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you are going to guess. So, all right, Team one,

1379
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Wilson Valdez.

1380
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, good, remembring some guys off the bat.

1381
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Drew Stubbs okay, Miguel Cairo Okay, Mike Leak ok.

1382
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Nine, Reds Okay, Craig.

1383
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you. I'm gonna tell you it

1384
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:33.039
<v Speaker 1>is the Reds.

1385
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Once one of you guess is the one of the

1386
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:36.600
<v Speaker 2>very obviously I knew it was.

1387
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was the.

1388
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Reds, right, Sam Lequeur. Actually, all right, I'm gonna say

1389
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 3>that if I named three more players, Otherwise you could

1390
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 3>just sit here.

1391
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, once I name three more players or two more players,

1392
01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to think I was willing to guess after Jeff

1393
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 1>another but just just I'm revising the rules on the

1394
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.920
<v Speaker 1>fly once I named two players, then the then the

1395
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.000
<v Speaker 1>other person's back in. Uh, all right, let's say three,

1396
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:06.800
<v Speaker 1>so I'll give you Jose Orondo Jose. Okay, so like

1397
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 1>now you get guest now or twenty after the next one.

1398
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen. Okay, we're back in business. Chris Heisey twenty

1399
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:21.159
<v Speaker 1>six again. Greg, I thought I could guess I'm back in.

1400
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Now he's back in, but I'm not. Okay, fine, apologies.

1401
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Coz Art.

1402
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Twenty God, how long did Miguel Cairo play? It's what's

1403
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:32.640
<v Speaker 2>tripputing year?

1404
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.079
<v Speaker 1>He played one year with the Reds. I'm sure I'm

1405
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not looking at it. He played thirty years now year

1406
01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 1>with the Reds. I think twenty fourteen Reds. All right,

1407
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Ludwick twenty sixteen Reds. There's Joey was playing in

1408
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth.

1409
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't help.

1410
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:48.439
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't help.

1411
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twelve Reds.

1412
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twelve reads is jack like because Cairo.

1413
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Was with the I couldn't member if Cairo was with

1414
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the Reds after the mats are before the match.

1415
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.239
<v Speaker 1>That's what was Listen, I don't think I could remember

1416
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:04.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve, And yeah, Jose Rodondo's stopped I was like,

1417
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I remember Jose Rodondo. I thought it

1418
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:08.840
<v Speaker 1>had to be more recent because my memory stinks.

1419
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:16.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, trap, all right, next one, Joe Smith, not.

1420
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Mike Morin helpful for a difference, is it? Marin?

1421
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Marin Mariann. I'm pretty Oh, I'm o r I n oh,

1422
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Mike Maright, Okay.

1423
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Colin Cowgill, this is not helpful. David Freeze, Josh.

1424
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Hamilton twenty eleven. Angels met Shoemaker.

1425
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:46.399
<v Speaker 1>It is the Angels.

1426
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:47.159
<v Speaker 2>It is the Angels.

1427
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, it is the Yeah, okay Shoemaker. Cole Calhoun

1428
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:59.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen. All right, jet back to you. How he

1429
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>can rick? Okay, again, not helping. It's the same as

1430
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Chared Weaver twenty twenty fourteen. Angels. Good job. That's the point, Jesus.

1431
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm just guessing, like I have no do you have? Like?

1432
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I like, I'm narrowing it down to

1433
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a range. Yeah, I'm an arrow window.

1434
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I will say that.

1435
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe either of you are getting as close

1436
01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:27.159
<v Speaker 3>as you are. I would I would do terribly at

1437
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.800
<v Speaker 3>this game. All right, number three, we're gonna.

1438
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Do five of these. I think it's fine. So Craig,

1439
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you need to get it's a good luck. It's fine.

1440
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Jose Lynde, Tim Wakefield, Randy Tomlin, Christ Lloyd McLennon. This

1441
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>is the only one I actually would get. Yeah, Lloyd McLennon,

1442
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Danny Nagel.

1443
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:55.920
<v Speaker 2>That's before the Okay, ninety six pirates.

1444
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>It is the Pirates. Jay Bell. This, I have truly

1445
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 1>no idea.

1446
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Wakefield is there longer than I think, probably too.

1447
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh, don slot. I love the slot. Ninety three. Right,

1448
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you're back in Wakefield, and sorry, I have to give

1449
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 1>me bubble. I don't think it makes sense that I'm eliminated.

1450
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Now we've each had one guess.

1451
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's fine, guess nine pirates if you want.

1452
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Craig's No, it's this one.

1453
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.039
<v Speaker 1>I truly don't know. It's it's points. Andy Evan's like, well,

1454
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:40.079
<v Speaker 1>he that doesn't help. And now you can go back

1455
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>to guessing. Craig, take a shot. You can you guys

1456
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:46.880
<v Speaker 1>can be each take a shot. Ninety two. Ninety two

1457
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:48.479
<v Speaker 1>is correct one way for Craig.

1458
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I was going to guess ninety three.

1459
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's fine, Okay, I guessed ninety three. Did you whatever?

1460
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:04.319
<v Speaker 1>All right? Number four Greig's still alive? Uh, Don Kelly, Nope?

1461
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Why are we doing that?

1462
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Rosie Davis?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we doing so many pirates?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? I went to a different team they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>might have played the two teams together.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Albuquerque, Yeah, exactly, Okay, I know the team, Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan two thousand and eight Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Tigers. Tory Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter sign man, I'll milk another one here. Drew Smiley

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<v Speaker 2>not helping two thousand and nine Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Craig, you're back in Ian Kinsler. When was

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<v Speaker 1>the field, Nick Castellanas, I don't remember it was Albuquerque

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<v Speaker 1>there that long.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve two thousand, justin Vernon, Yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks, aj.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold On, Miguel Caprera twenty fourteen Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty fourteen Tigers is correct, Nice, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to like pinned down when Mike

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<v Speaker 2>frances I didn't know who al Albuquerque was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>there a long time, he was, he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>One last one for glory. Yeah. Chris Medland okay, Jared Dyson, yep, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Madson, Yeah yeah, two thousand, go ahead, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen Royals. It is the Royals, yeah, Paolo Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando, great name, Kendriy Smerales. He played for the he

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<v Speaker 2>did play for the What the fuck did he play for?

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<v Speaker 1>The Royals? Edits and volcaz It don't only helped twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen Royals. Yeah, I was too far forward. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Craig you're back in. Yeah. Uh. Wade Davis, No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not helpful. No it's not. Alex Gordon also extremely not.

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<v Speaker 1>The order of this is very funny, adventurer.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, can I get a lout Hochiver? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>back in now?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty sixteen? Okay? That the first time? No, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen the first time? Uh, you were done a venturer,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo Kine.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just the twenty fifteen Royals.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the twenty fifteen Royals, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all the same teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Were My thing is I did not I did not

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<v Speaker 1>remember Chris. I thought Chris Madlin was there after their Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was too. That's what completely threw me up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was going after the twenty fourteen fifteen team.

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<v Speaker 1>So Morales was only there for two seasons twenty fifteen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember when you have to find right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have you have to like with this game. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>really need to find it to hold.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I knew the Pirates one because I knew Tim

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<v Speaker 3>Wakefield only pitched for them for two years.

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<v Speaker 2>He was I think Medlin I was just was there

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was there in ninety two and ninety three. He

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<v Speaker 1>was back in the minors in ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>It was for some reason, for some reason in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>his like the first breakout season is ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it stopped quickly. I told was Medlin yea,

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<v Speaker 1>I just was wrong. Yeah, and then I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>Morales I And yeah, Madsen probably was the other one

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<v Speaker 1>you could do. I guess he moved around much so

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<v Speaker 1>much like I think, but if you knew, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he was there that that long, right, So like

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<v Speaker 1>you could potentially do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Madsen was like pre World serious. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was like thirteen fourteens like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, good game, good game. I liked it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bad at it, but I liked it. That'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode. Thank you to everyone for joining us

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