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Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome into Full Court Press and bear

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with me. Lots of pop up boxes just now. But apparently,

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drop us a comment, let us know if we're live.

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Apparently we're working through like a worldwide internet outage here,

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but we're here. We didn't think we were going to

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be here fifteen minutes ago, but we are here. Someone

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in the chat is saying Sienna is overrated.

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Speaker 2: While we're waiting.

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Speaker 1: Someone was like, he's still talking to the Starbucks barista.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been to a Starbucks in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where that comic came from, but I

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want to say this while we're waiting for people to

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file in, get your notebooks out, Get your notebooks out,

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because here's what I learned about Sienna and Colgate last night.

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I learned that Sienna cannot handle a zone and it's

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going to be a real issue for them. They had

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poor numbers against his zone last year, and that Coldgate

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zone is suddenly very very athletic without their big six

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to eleven center that's no longer on the team that graduated.

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Speaker 2: So uh but yeah, Cianna really.

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Speaker 1: Struggled with the one three one from Colgate, nearly willed

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their way to a win. They tie the game with

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two seconds left and then Jalen Cox bangs a fifty

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foot are in my face for the win. It was

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it was a sight to see. UH left very disappointed

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from that game, but UH got it back with Tulsa.

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Speaker 2: So one in one for me.

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Speaker 3: Enough rambling, Well, you know, well we trigg While you're

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being falsely accused of talking off the ear of a

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make believe burist and Starbucks, I'm being accused of holding

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up the show from by choking my chicken. Still, I mean,

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that was That's why I was done. That's why I

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was show. Oh come on, no, guys, I'm a happily

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married man. Come on, I get something at least twice

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a month.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so we are we are?

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Speaker 3: We are once, if twice, if I beg.

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Speaker 2: We are, we are off and running. Now let's get

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Rob Vino in here again.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's that many in the live chap,

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but we'll get through this, and this will be up

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on demand of course, so if anything happens throughout the

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course of the show, it'll be there on demand.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about though.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of games today, and there is a

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great double header at Madison Square Garden, which will be

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our feature game.

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Speaker 2: So I'll go right to Rob and welcome in. First

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of all.

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Speaker 1: Second of all, you can kick us off Michigan State

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Kentucky the first leg of that double header down at

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the garden.

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Speaker 2: How are you seeing this matchup? I think you're muted?

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Speaker 3: Rob? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, good now there were good y'all get here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah I was. I was running that printer overtime. I

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didn't want the listeners to hear my printer going. Yeah,

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msg'll be rocking tonight, guys with this doubleheader. Obviously for

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your more high profile teams. I'm going to defer to

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you guys on the Michigan State side simply because you

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saw them live. But I'll go from the Kentucky side here.

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At first glance, I thought five was a little too

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much to ask, But when I went back over it

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and it's actually been bent down to four and a half. Now, guys,

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been with us because we had no access to our

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OD screens for a while here this morning, But now

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four and a half and fifty three and a half.

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Let's go from there, guys, the Louisville Kentucky game, because

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what we're gonna pull from here. At least in my

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handicap is games that were meaningful played by both of

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these teams. On the Kentucky side, that was the Louisville game,

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where they just couldn't hang with Louisville in the same

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type of pace game as one another. Here, it's a

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different style. You get Tom Mizzo's a little slow down

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style team for Kentucky. I don't know that the total

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move here, guys, is correct up to one fifty three

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it's incorrect either. I could see it going either way,

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simply because at the end of a game we might

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get free throw action here in this one that could

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send it over. But I like the guard side from

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a Kentucky perspective. I like the pay side from a

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Kentucky perspective. Michigan State, we've talked about it once already

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this year, maybe twice. The three point shooting that this

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team brings to the table just isn't in my mind

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established enough to play a game at this level. And

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now they could go out and shoot lights out tonight,

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but I don't think that'll happen. I think Kentucky's got

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enough interior defense here to stop Michigan State from scoring

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enough inside to win this game. I also think that

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Kentucky can get out and run enough to win this game.

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So for my money, it would probably be Kentucky. However,

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very skeptical of laying more than two buckets with this team.

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threes and total wise, I thought the odds maker comes

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real closer. Like I said, I don't want to play

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it under even though that's my slight feeling. Might look

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over at some point today if I can get to it.

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I'll say in closing here really quick, guys that the

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Michigan State side against San Jose State. When I saw

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that game, which just was one more game, nineteen point win,

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that was kind of unimpressive. And I don't know what

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to make of Michigan State. The thing is, I don't

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want to sell them short because it's an ISO team

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and a big game. But from what I've seen of them,

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I think Kentucky's the better squad. Like I say, backcourt, enough,

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front court, and even though they lost that game to Louisville,

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So I'm gonna lean Kentucky. I won't stand firm with Kentucky,

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but I'll lean Kentucky's way in this one. And if

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this thing cranks up to maybe one fifty four and

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a half, I think I might get to the under.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think, what's the first thing that jumped out

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to me? You know, I always I constantly, and I'll

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talk about this all season long, all the way through March.

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Compare my own power ratings to you know what the

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pollsters have, and I think one thing that's interesting here

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is I'm not in line with the ap top twenty

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five they have. This is number twelve versus number seventeen.

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I've got Kentucky power rated inside the top ten, while

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Michigan state outside the top twenty five. Believe it or not,

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I would concur the gentleman to my right, said Rob.

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I think Louisville's better than both of these teams. Obviously,

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Louisville will beat Kentucky. You would think, though, based on

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the disparity in my own power rings, I'd be showing

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some value here in Kentucky. But even with that disparity,

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I'm pretty close to market here. At least at the

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open I made the number Kentucky minus five point eight.

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I'll let you guys know when it comes by powerings.

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Not a tremendous gap between number ten and number thirty.

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Those teams are very close, very congested, so let's make

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that clear right here. As for the matchup, Rob mentioned it,

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Trigg and I obviously caught this Michigan State team in

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person two saturdays ago. A very impressive win over Arkansas.

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Impressive in the cents Trig that Sparti was able to

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win while going just one of fourteen from three. The

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margin of victory wasn't impressive, but if you can beat

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a quality opponent when you shoot one for fourteen from three,

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you're doing something else right now. Tom Rob mentioned the

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San Jose State game for Michigan State that was their

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next game after beating Arkansas. Tom Izzo pretty critical of

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his performance. If you caught this show last Thursday, we

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identified and I think a lot of people would have

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identified it as well as a likely flat spot for

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Michigan State. For the record, they end up winning by nineteen.

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Do not covers twenty four point chalk. Meanwhile, Kentucky, after

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losing the Louis, they respond by blowing out Eastern Illinois

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ninety nine to fifty three on Friday. Mark Pope's team

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guys averaging ninety eight points per game so far, three

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and oh to the over. That probably explains the move

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on the total that Rob referenced earlier. I think the

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big story though for the Wildcats Jalen Lowe point guard

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is out. You got Aberdeen Chandler Johnson to lead the offense.

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But Trig, I know you're really good with this matchup stuff.

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I think the lack of a true point guard here

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could really hurt against a team like Michigan State, who

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we've already seen against our another SEC team, Arkansas, Michigan

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State was able to slow the tempo down, make the

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opponent play in the half court. I think ISO can

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do that here. I think Spartan size is another thing

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to watch out for Kohler. He's averaging a double double.

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You got Carson Cooper as well up front. Michigan State

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guys fourth nationally offensive rebounds per game. I think that's

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a critical stat. Maybe they could stag some extra possessions

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my leans here, and I do stress the word leans

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would be towards the dog and to the under in

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this first game at MSG.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I so if this was a normal scenario,

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like everyone healthy, I'd look to Kentucky because my thing

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would be, well, they'd be able to create transition opportunities,

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they would be able to push the pace, and that's

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absolutely what Michigan State does not want. You know, we

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got a good look at this Michigan State team against Arkansas,

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and the reason Michigan State was able to win that game, Brian,

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in my opinion, was they they got Arkansas to do

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enough in the half court. And it wasn't even that

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they just gave up that that Arkansas couldn't get transition

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or create transition. It was that when Michigan State, you know,

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over the course of forty minutes, they were able to

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deny transition enough that put Arkansas in a half court set.

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you know, we were a few spartas deep, but we

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knew that they weren't there.

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Speaker 2: You turned to me either, you were like, what is

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that possession? What was that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What you know?

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Speaker 1: And that is Michigan State's half court defense, which would

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do the same thing in the Kentucky. Now, if Kentucky

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can turn this into a track meet, Michigan State's in trouble.

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That being said, the absence of Low makes it less

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likely that they're going to be able to do that.

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So that's Michigan State's path to victory is being physical,

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slowing the game down, limiting the number of possessions in

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this game, uh one fifty four on the total. Let's

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say Michigan State can do that, I think, Robbi, you'd

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have to probably like the under if they can do that.

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But again, if Kentucky can dictate tempo here, then it's

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a different ballgame. But without Low, I think you have

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to think that that might hurt Kentucky from a pay standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you said. You made the point, Brian.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting like these these sort of made for TV

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neutral court games, I really struggle to usually get to

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the window on and I'm kind of struggling here though.

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I do think if Michigan State can slow this game down,

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and there's some correlation between Michigan State's success and the

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game playing undergo ahead, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's exactly I think, and correctly. If

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I'm wrong, maybe you guys remember better this Champions Class.

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It's it's usually, you know, early in the season, the

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books are trying to still figure these teams out. I

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think historically it's been and you know, we still got

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one of the game to go with Duke and Kansas.

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It's been historically profitable back the underdogs, I think in

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the in this particular MT if memory serves correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta I'm trying to remember if this was

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what Duke lost in last year when Flag had that

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sort of like horrible possession where he tried to like

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dribble through three guys or the game on the line

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and then got the ball stone.

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Speaker 3: I think it was, Yeah, I think it was. I

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think it was, yes.

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Speaker 1: And and Kentucky would have been the dog in that game.

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So yeah, So it's a good point, Brian, and and

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you know, you get it. It's a good point. I'll

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bring Rob back in here, because the other game that

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is our part of our our feature in the other

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leg of this event, you got an underdog that's now

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quite a bigger underdog in a matchup where normally they

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want to be as big of an underdog, and that is,

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of course Duke and Kansas trying to get organized again here.

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Speaker 2: As you said, the screens were all wacky.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a double digit favorite with Duke.

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We have Kansas who's likely likely without their best player

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or one of their best players.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, Rob, is that is that too

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many points? Or do you think Duke runs away with

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this one?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: And to answer Brian's question about the dogs generally, are

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thinking that the dogs generally are good in this tournament.

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I don't know that we ever see dogs of this

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size in this tournament when you put these four types

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of teams together plus eleven, not really seen. But I'm

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a little higher on this game, guys, I like this

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Duke team total over eighty and a half. I mean

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Darren Peterson. Obviously we just talked about low, big deal

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Darren Peterson, bigger deal KU. Their last game without him

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against Princeton something miserable from three point range. I do

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have notes here now that tell me five of twenty

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one twenty three point eight percent from three point range

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in that Gi Peterson came out of the gates as

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the main guy offensively, and then you lose him, and

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like I say, the Princeton game they played without him,

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they didn't shoot well from three. Duke's pace has been

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incredible so far this season. They shoot the ball sixth

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fastest in the country thirteen point eight seconds per possession length.

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That's getting it down and getting the ball up, and

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they're shooting it real well. Now, you know, opposition hasn't

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been great, but they beat Texas by fifteen, So for

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what that's worth, that's a major college program winning by fifteen.

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There everybody else they've absolutely swamped. Contrary to what we

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just said about Kentucky needing transition and possibly not being

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able to get it, because again tom Izzo, you know,

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his focal point will be transition defense. They'll go to

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the offensive glass. It won't be like a Princeton style

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transition defense where you shoot the ball and send all

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five back, but Izzo will make sure they have somebody

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back to defend against transition. I don't know that Kansas

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can stop Duke from running in this game. Their team

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total is eighty and a half. I don't see an

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issue with that here, guys. I think Kansas will be

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forced to play a little bit quicker. I think Kansas

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will be forced to play from behind. Not sure yet

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on Duke defensively, which is why I won't commit to

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Duke covering this number. Obviously, if they get over eighty

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and a half, they're going to be in position to

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possibly cover. But this thing's liable to rise a little

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bit higher, even during the day, because we know betting

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these games every day that people bet or fade injuries

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like crazy and especially an injury like Darren Peterson. It's

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like when the public gets to it, it's liable to

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rise even higher. So I think at this point in

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time the way to go here and the total has

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even been bet down because of no Darren Peterson. I'm

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not so sure I agree with that either as far

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as full game is concerned. But to me, and again,

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I'm way more betting wise into this game than the

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previous game. I think Duke team total asking them to

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get to eighty one here I don't think is too much.

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I think they'll be the pace will be there. The

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Boozer kids have been really good so far this year.

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Give me Duke over eighty and a half. I like

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that play quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: I have Duke power rate is number one team in

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the country. Right now. I don't think that's, you know,

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an earth shattering hot take and like that Kansas power

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Rings perspective just kind of inside the top twenty five

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for me and too, you know, for the you know,

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this is a very well educated chat. Obviously, we have

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Trig here on full court Press and Rob as well.

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These people know what they're talking about. Just for those

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of you who may not understand, you know, the loss

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of Peterson. This is a guy who's projected to the

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number one pick in next summer's NBA Draft by a

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lot of people. So that is a significant loss for

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the Jayhawks. Peterson had twenty two points. For what it's

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worth in Cana This is lone loss so far. That

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loss was by thirteen at North Carolina jay Aawkxon bounced

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back since then seventy seven to forty six over Texas

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Sandam Corpus Christi, seventy six to fifty seven over Princeton.

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But obviously, as Rob alluded to just a moment ago,

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facing Duke a much taller order. Quite literally, in fact,

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the Blue Devils had a tremendous size in the front

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court opponent, shooting thirty nine percent against Duke on two

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point attempts below forty percent inside the arc just thirty

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two percent overall. Offensively for the Blue Devils, you got

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Cameron Boozer. He went for thirty five last time out.

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That was the second most points ever scored in a

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game by a Duke freshman. For the record, Boozer thirteen

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to sixteen from the field in that game. It was

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against Indiana State last Friday. We should mention, from a

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betting perspective, Duke's four to zer against the number so far.

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So that's another reason I think the public may gravitate

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towards the Blue Devil's side. Not only did they open

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up with that impressive win over Texas that Rob mentioned,

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also three straight covers as a favorite of thirty four

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or more points, So the big spreads have not been

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a problem for Duke. You know, obviously beating week competition

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is what you'd expect, But when you're covering as a

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favorite of thirty four or more three straight times, I

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think that's pretty impressive. Personally, Now, the contrarian and me

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Trig doesn't really want to play a four and oats

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team that's favored by double digits in this spot. That's

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just how my brain works. I see this, and I say,

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is this a potential sell high spot on the Blue Devils.

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You know, I think Rob's points well taken. Once the

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public gets wint to the Peterson injury, this line could

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take off even more. My thought was actually to go

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with the under at the open. The full just Kansas

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is some offensive issues fifty fifth per Ken Palm inefficiency.

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I think they're gonna struggle to score against this duke defense.

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I look at Kansas defensively, they're eleventh inefficiency. Bill Self

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in the past has done well against Shire two and zero.

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He's held duke, those duke offenses in check. But with

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this size, I don't Maybe maybe it's just Kansas team

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total under is an angle worth looking here. I don't

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see Kansas winning this game, that's for sure. I think

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they struggle to score points against that size of duke.

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It is worth noting though Boozer was scoreless in the

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first half against Texas, if memory serves me correct, So

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you know, maybe Self can devise a game plan to

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keep him in check. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a ton to add here.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that the one thing I had circled

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so my number came out Duke minus nine and a half.

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It's very close to where it opened Duke minus ten

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and a half. I understand, you know why it's moving.

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It certainly hasn't moved enough for me to really like

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be confident punching back. And the reason for that is

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the one thing I had big circled on my note

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Kansas might not have an answer for the Duke offense,

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and I think that's what.

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Speaker 2: Sort of Rob alluded to.

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Speaker 1: Looking at total, It's probably the way I would play

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it as well. So yeah, I'm going to We've got

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a lot of games, a lot of different questions in

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the chat today. I'm not gonna, you know, waste any

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more time on this one since I don't have a

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strong opinion, but I'm not I don't disagree with with

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you know what you guys are saying. Bunch to get

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to Jay buff I see you in there. We'll get

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to that Gartham coming to year game, but first we

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have a sort of chat debate on one that you know,

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quite a few people are talking about. And I feel

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like this is going to be a popular sort of

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game tonight because you have the Tennessee Martin Skyhawks who

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have been as fun as can be.

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Speaker 2: Pulling upsets, Brian Power, Do I do?

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Speaker 1: I dare call them America's team right now, at least

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the part of America that pays attention to mid majors

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pulling upsets in November, and they are on the road

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as a large underdog to Florida State, and we have

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so the chat debate right now is people saying Tennessee Martin,

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They're gonna do it again. We've got the other folks

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saying Florida State's gonna run him out by forty Brian Power,

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what is it? What do you have any interest in

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this one?

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Speaker 3: My only concern is when you know, when everyone falls

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in love with the dog, that's typically when I go,

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when I when I back away. Right in terms of you,

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in terms of this game, let's take a look. I

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am gonna laugh at you, j Buff. I don't care

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what you say. Okay, I'm gonna laugh every time your

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name's your name's Wrench. Let's just go and see, for instance,

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what I would Power rate this game at here, U

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T Martin Florida State. Here. Let me just let me

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just go to this real quick.

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Speaker 2: Sorry and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: We we finally our back end server at wager Talk

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was was down for like all morning. So you see

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me over here, it's it's trying. I'm trying to put

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plays out that I would have had up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think this

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numbers too. I'm gonna be honest you. I think this number.

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You know, I just what through the numbers are, because

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again Rob mentioned just everyone in case you're just joining

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the stream late. The Internet, A large portion of it

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was down this morning, including our odd screen. Twitter was down,

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some other a lot of sites were down. I'm gonna

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be honest, I think this numbers too high. That's my

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initial I actually do. I'm surprised. I think this number

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is actually way too high based on my Power ratings.

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I'll dig into this a little bit. I'll let Rob

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speak on this first, but I kind of actually lean

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you t Martin right now from a Power Ratings perspective,

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as much as you know. MY initial thought was when

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so many people like, oh I love this dog, I

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love this dog. Yeah, they're probably gonna be overvalued. I

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actually don't think they're overvalued here, Trigg at all. I'll

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dig a little bit deeper for you in a second.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll hop in real quick. Guys. I'll tell you

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what I don't think is too high. Is that total.

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I mean, I can see this game serve they've bet

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it up already. Probably isn't high enough FSU for what

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it's worth. Obviously, you've got two fast paced teams, right,

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and Florida State is extreme tempo, top ten fastest possessions

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in the country. They're going to run it at UT Martin.

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I think UT Martin will run it back at them.

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But from the Florida State perspective, what I look at

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is they score seventy six points against that Florida front line,

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and the Tennessee Martin front line is not even comparable

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to the Florida front line. So the seventy six that

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they scored against Florida probably turns into eighty eight, eighty

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nine to ninety something in that vicinity. They've been really

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good shooting the basketball. Tennessee Martin's been even better. I

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don't know that I trust the Florida State defense to

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do anything earth shattering in this game. I think they'll

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encourage a track me, so to speak. So for me,

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I don't think that this total's gotten high enough. I

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know that the chat is debating on the side, and

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every time it comes to me over here on the

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far right, I want to talk about total rather than side.

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But I think it's the right way to go ahead.

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I think that's the type of game you're going to get.

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I think Florida State will be comfortable in it. I

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think Florida State feels superior in that type of game,

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and not having to see the rim protection that Florida

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presented against them from UT Martin just means more buckets.

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And these fast paced games, guys a lot of times

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end up with I'm just going to use a rough

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number here at forty five to fifty free throws, and

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from a free throw perspective, when you get that many

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extra opportunities, that's usually a good sign for overs. Florida State,

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for what it's worth, almost shoots eighty percent from the

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free throw line. I can see this thing getting to

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one seventy. So it's something that I had a little

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blue check mark next to on the overnights, and it

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was the total was lower than I think I may

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get to this one as far as over is concerned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's here's how I see this playing out.

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And this is this is what makes this game so interesting.

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And so I'll just point out too, like I made

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the number Florida State minus twenty two. Okay, it opened twenty,

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it got bet up to twenty two, and now you

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see there's definitely like some market support for Tennessee Martin

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at twenty two because we're now going back toward that

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opening number of twenty.

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Speaker 2: So I think there are people.

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Speaker 1: That are on the side of like, Okay, this is

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where Tennessee Martin's gonna get run out, and then there's

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people like Brian Power who are like, no, that's actually

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like twenty two is actually probably a good number. And

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00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:29,880
you know, because when it hit twenty two, there was

476
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,920
some clear buying to knock that back off in the

477
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,640
other direction. I am kind of with Rob though, I

478
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,279
think I have more interest in playing this over than

479
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,759
trying to get involved with the side, because like Tennessee

480
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,559
Martin gets a lot of shots up and they get

481
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:46,839
them up quick. So really, like I think, if you

482
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:51,759
if you like Florida State, the bet is really like, Okay,

483
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,920
this is finally where Tennessee Martin misses some shots, right,

484
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,160
because the volume of shots that they're taking the you

485
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,279
know what they're giving up. Like if they have a

486
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,680
cold shooting night, if Martin goes on the road here

487
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,359
as a cold shooting night, they're losing by probably twenty

488
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,200
five thirty points. But if they make some of those shots,

489
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,880
they're probably in this game a little bit, at least

490
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,039
from a spread perspective.

491
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: But like either way, just because.

492
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Of how Florida State has played in some of these

493
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:20,160
games where it seems like they're going to do it

494
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,240
for forty minutes, I you know, there's been a couple

495
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,759
of scenarios already this year where they've really let it

496
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,119
rip for all forty hasn't matter what the score is.

497
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,000
That like, even if you do get cold shooting from

498
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,599
Tennessee Martin, maybe you get this over because Florida State

499
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,160
dropped a hundred spot on them. So it's like, I

500
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,039
just think the over gives you more opportunities to win

501
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,680
regardless of how this game plays out, which could go

502
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,319
like many different directions depending.

503
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,519
Speaker 2: On if the shots are falling or not. Go ahead.

504
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: Bryant, Yeah, so you know Rob talks about Florida State

505
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,720
getting to seventy six against Florida and how that's a

506
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,519
good sign for them scoring here. Well, I'll tell you

507
00:25:57,559 --> 00:25:59,720
what really makes it a good sign for them scoring here.

508
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,920
They got to seventy six against Florida despite shooting thirty

509
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,240
four percent overall from the floor twenty six percent from three.

510
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,319
Do we think you t Martin is gonna hold Florida

511
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:13,920
State to those kinds of percentages. No, I don't think

512
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,640
even no matter what my power ratings say, No, I

513
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480
don't think we do. And Florida State. Also, here's the

514
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:20,680
thing you talk of, maybe a cold shooting. This is

515
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,160
the other bad sign. Florida State has defended the three

516
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680
pretty well so far, and I think your points will

517
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,279
take a trick a few t mart as a cold

518
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,599
night from three. They're obviously in a lot of trouble.

519
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,920
Florida State also forces a lot of turnovers too, So

520
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920
if you t mart isn't hitting them from outside and

521
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,440
is turning the ball over, obviously they're dead. I those

522
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,880
are and those are high variant stats. Obviously you know

523
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,920
it's something you're gonna know. You're not gonna know, so

524
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,799
you click on the game and we're a few minutes

525
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,759
in how it's playing out. But I suppose there is

526
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,599
a path schematically for Florida State to cover this big

527
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,720
number even though my power ratings say no, my power

528
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,160
ratings actually really like you t mart In.

529
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,599
Speaker 4: This fun.

530
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,599
Speaker 1: All right, let's stay on the topic of totals for

531
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,680
a second, because this one's very intriguing and we got

532
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,319
to get my guy Garth in here. Thank you for

533
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,839
I gotta say this like well, first of all, thank

534
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,880
you for the donation of the show.

535
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: Much appreciated.

536
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: But like every time we talk about Garth's game, we

537
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:19,839
pretty much get it right. We've been on a tear

538
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,000
for Garth. Yesterday he brought up West Georgia. They ended

539
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,440
up going off plus four. They won the game outright.

540
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720
I think we even may have touched on I don't

541
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,480
remember if we touched on the under there, but it

542
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,839
stayed under, much to the chagrin of Brian Power, who

543
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,559
needed that poor shooting last time West Georgia played. Yes,

544
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,599
they finally yet like you said, they went on the

545
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,599
road and missed a lot and still ended up winning

546
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960
the game. Was so we got that right, and we're

547
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,519
gonna try to get one right here for Garth again.

548
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,119
He wants to know Army team total under seventy two

549
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,920
and a half tonight against Cornell and this This is

550
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,559
an interesting game to me because you want to talk

551
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:01,240
about an Army team total under against a Cornell team

552
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,720
that is going to just let it rip, play as

553
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,599
fast as humanly possible, get up and down, press the

554
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,640
whole game, and typically plays high scoring games. So that's

555
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,519
a little bit of a conundrum to me because Cornell

556
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,319
is is so much better than Army, like they're going

557
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,880
to control the tempo of this game.

558
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: Without question. There is I have zero f eighth in

559
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,839
Army being able to slow them down. I have a

560
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,440
very long list of potential plays today. One of the

561
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,039
plays on that list, which which I haven't locked in yet,

562
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,200
and again it's a very long list that needs pairing

563
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,799
down is Cornell minus fourteen and a half. On the

564
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,880
basis that I don't think Army can dictate how this

565
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480
game goes. I just think Cornell is so far superior

566
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:45,359
to them that if they want to play up and

567
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,160
down and press the whole game and get crazy, it'll

568
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,279
look similar to the Lafayette game. Now.

569
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,759
Speaker 1: The only difference is I think that Cornell Lafayette line.

570
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: What did we lay.

571
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,519
Speaker 1: Four and a half with Cornell in that game on

572
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,599
the road against Lafayette? Now, we're being asked to lay

573
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,079
fourteen and a half with Cornell might be a little

574
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,000
bit of an equalizer, even though I personally make this nineteen.

575
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,799
So I do still see an edge there. But as

576
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
far as your question is concerned, and I'll bring Robin

577
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,359
here sort of our resident totals expert, it's tough because

578
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Cornell could press them so hard that it turns into

579
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,559
a blowout and Army just gives up, and that would

580
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,960
be your that's your path to the under in my opinion,

581
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,039
Like Cornell wins this game by twenty and Army just

582
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,640
packs it in and says, all right, we're like going

583
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,319
to walk the ball up the floor. We're sick of

584
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,680
getting pressed, we're sick of turning it over every possession,

585
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,279
and we score sixty something points and get blown out.

586
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,880
But I don't know if that's I don't know if

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,839
I want to bet on that. And so I'll open

588
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,680
the floor to the other two to see if they

589
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,119
can make some sense out of this.

590
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,039
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say real quick, Adam, that you know, Army's

591
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,400
kind of a well, let's put it this way. You

592
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,559
want to go very slow off the And yet we

593
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:05,480
were talking about tom Izzo and transition defense Earlier when

594
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:09,640
you look at Armies defensive metrics and I get that.

595
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,799
You know, they played a you know, a Duke team

596
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,160
that wants to go pretty quick, but Saint Thomas doesn't

597
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,640
want to go quick. They're just efficient. Harvard doesn't want

598
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,799
to really go quick, and yet they're allowing shots at

599
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680
the number sixty nine rate as far as seconds per

600
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,319
possession is concerned in the country, like you say, Cornell

601
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:34,000
another extreme tempo team, and if you're going slow offensively

602
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
but allowing the ball to be rebounded and moved out

603
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,119
of there as quick as humanly possible, I would use

604
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,440
I always try to find a comp game when I'm

605
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,799
playing these tots, and for me, the comp game would

606
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,599
be the Duke game. It goes one fourteenth to fifty nine.

607
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,279
Is Cornell going to get to one fourteen like Duke did?

608
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Probably not. Can Cornell get to within fifteen points of

609
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,160
that the way they play and get ninety nine? Probably

610
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,279
can the way that they play offense. And then the

611
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,119
other side of that is Army could only get fifty

612
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,079
nine points against Duke with their humongous team. I mean,

613
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Army obviously is in you know, physical difficulty playing that game.

614
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,119
As far as size is concerned against Cornell, they'll give

615
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,359
you buckets for free at times. So can they get

616
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:23,880
more than fifty nine? Absolutely they could probably, even though

617
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,839
they're a bad shooting team, they could probably get to

618
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200
sixty eight sixty nine by mistake, you start doing mathematics

619
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,440
in that form and you come up with over. I

620
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,720
know this game has been bet down a little bit,

621
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000
maybe because of Army. Question is you know, for somebody

622
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,160
who's gonna bet over, do you get trust Army enough

623
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:46,079
to score sixty nine seventy points? If you don't, then

624
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,000
you just bet the Cornell team total over and again. Guys,

625
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:50,359
I don't know if it's happened to you, but it

626
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,519
looks to me like my odd screen is going down

627
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,960
against it. I can't even give you what the current

628
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:58,000
team total is in that game. You have it at them.

629
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my, my, I don't have the

630
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920
team totals in front of me, But my odd screen

631
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,559
is working. And Cornell has moved quite a bit since

632
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,480
we got on air. It was fourteen and a half

633
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:11,640
up to up to eighteen some places. Makes complete sense.

634
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Fully expected it to be in that direction. The totally yeah,

635
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,680
the game total has ticked down from one sixty four

636
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,319
now to one sixty one and a half. Garth, I

637
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,880
would say you're like your path to hitting that bet

638
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,519
is the fact that there's probably zero extension at the

639
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:32,079
end of this game. It's likely a blowout, and you

640
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,119
may see Army just decide to like live to play

641
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,160
another day, as opposed to like try to score a

642
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,480
bunch of points in the meaningless game at the end,

643
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:43,799
Rob you talked about Army and just there, I think

644
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,359
this is one of the worst ten teams in the

645
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,359
country this year. So like for me, I'm not betting

646
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,880
on Army to do anything good. Like so so team

647
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,240
total under I think makes some sense in the respect

648
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,240
that like you almost need them to get the over

649
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:01,079
by accident, Like this Army team is a bad basketball team,

650
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:03,720
will be the worst team in a bad Patriot League,

651
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:05,079
one of the worst teams in the country.

652
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,359
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Brian, yeah, drig I oh, go ahead.

653
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: Right real quick. I'll take two seconds here. I guess

654
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,200
indirectly I answered your question, Garth, because I was talking

655
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,359
about you're going to trust Army to get the sixty

656
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,519
eight sixty nine points, and your question was will they

657
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,400
stay under seventy two and a half, So I guess

658
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,079
indirectly I answered it right there by saying, you know,

659
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,000
for them to get the seventy is a big deal

660
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:26,640
in this game.

661
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna add this real quick, Drigg.

662
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,240
I apologized. We're scrambling this morning with all the Internet

663
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
things going out, and I apologize if I missed you references.

664
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,839
Do you put any like in terms of the handicap

665
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,359
this being Cornell's first home game, you obviously have traveled

666
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:45,480
the Northeast more than well.

667
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Is that like ery'll be no one there tonight.

668
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: That's not what you don't. You don't you don't think

669
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,799
it's worth anything, Okay, I'm just I'm just having You're

670
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:55,079
looking at a team they started traversing this fine country

671
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,160
of ours with three road games, now they're back home.

672
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,799
I didn't know if if that was worth anything to

673
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,200
you in terms of of on the Cornell side.

674
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Will get a turnout every once in a while for

675
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,679
like a good IVY opponent or like maybe on like

676
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,199
a Saturday, But I I don't this game is gonna

677
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,079
have no atmosphere.

678
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going to this game.

679
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 4: Home opener. Nobody shows.

680
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, worst Bowling Green Lemoyne.

681
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: No like I I yeah, I think there'll be less

682
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,039
people than that game that was.

683
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: That's tough though.

684
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: That's a Sunday during NFL football, Like you know, no

685
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:34,519
name opponent for Bowling Green, Like I just I've been

686
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,599
to some Cornell games that I thought were like gonna

687
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,199
be like decent crowds and stuff, and and it's just

688
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,079
they just don't get a huge turnout for games that

689
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,400
they'll get. They'll get a turnout if Princeton comes to

690
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,400
town middle of IVY season, but they're not gonna I

691
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,760
don't think they'll have much of a showing on a

692
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,960
weeknight for this game.

693
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,519
Speaker 3: One of those schools you have to study at. That's

694
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:55,559
why I didn't go there or protest.

695
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: H Jay Buff. Let's let you know what Jay Buff says.

696
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: Hate to say it, but I think mom myth plus

697
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,159
twenty two has some value tonight. Can't bet against my boys,

698
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:12,400
but it seems high starling first game back, look ahead

699
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,079
to two tough games in Vegas, Jay Buff, I agree

700
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:18,920
with you, and I'm gonna use mom myth plus twenty

701
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,719
two as my parlay leg here oh three for me? Yes,

702
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,920
I did so I will take a second to acknowledge

703
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,280
I did kill the parlay yesterday. Both of you boys

704
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,480
got it done and the Sienna Saints did not, So

705
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,280
that's on me. We need to we need to win

706
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,800
one of these though we're on a little bit of

707
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,119
a parlay swoon where we keep hitting two of three,

708
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:40,559
which is.

709
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think correct me if

710
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320
I'm wrong, and I'm sure the chat will. But this

711
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,360
show has now been in existence. We've done eleven shows

712
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:54,599
so far. I believe nine of them we've won at

713
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,440
least two of the three parlay like I believe there's

714
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
only been two occasions where we didn't. At least if

715
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,239
you just played the three plays straight, you wouldn't have

716
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,599
gone at least two and one.

717
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,079
Speaker 4: Can I interest anybody in round robins? Yes, there we are.

718
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: It's an option really, it's just a fun way to

719
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,519
get you out some information and you know, kind of

720
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,159
track if we have success, whether or not, still plus

721
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920
nine point two two units on the year, and we'll

722
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,000
still be locking one in every day whether they win

723
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,559
or lose, so hopefully we can win more of them

724
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,800
then we lose. But this is also you could also

725
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,880
play this straight this will be a three percent play

726
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,000
for my clients, and I think Jay buff nailed the handicap,

727
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,760
so I was you know, this actually opened twenty two

728
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,800
and a half. Twenty two, it was announced that JJ

729
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,159
Starling would play tonight, and I'm thinking, I'm sitting here waiting.

730
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,159
I'm like, oh, please, someone bet Syracuse based on that information,

731
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,440
which I think is totally irrelevant to the outcome of

732
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,519
this game. Not that he doesn't like help the team significantly,

733
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,159
but like, in this game with a twenty two point spread,

734
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,440
I just don't think like the fact that he'll probably

735
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,760
play limited minutes is moving the needle. And it started

736
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,920
to get bet the other way. So I didn't want

737
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,079
to lose the twenty two. I took the twenty two.

738
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:05,960
I still think twenty twos are out there might be

739
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,320
twenty one and a half most places, but yeah, like

740
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
it's a spot that historically Syracuse has not done well.

741
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,559
These are if you go back the last couple of years,

742
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,599
which we'll call the Adrian Autrey era for Syracuse basketball,

743
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:26,159
they are horrific as the as a huge home favorite.

744
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,519
They just so you want to talk about a venue

745
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,000
that doesn't have a ton of juice, the Dome. Listen,

746
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,000
you need to put twenty thousand in the dome just

747
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,679
to have a reasonable atmosphere. You need thirty thousand in

748
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,280
the dome for a really good atmosphere. And these early

749
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,599
season sort of by game type games that Syracuse schedules

750
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,199
at home just typically don't have that juice. Like I

751
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,039
usually subtract home court for Syracuse in these types of

752
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,880
games because I just don't think it's worth anything, Like

753
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,280
I'll typically won't add any anything to my number for

754
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,920
QS being home here because of that, Whereas the books

755
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,039
are almost always going to put a point or two

756
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:10,079
for home court for a Power five Power Conference school

757
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,679
against a team like Monmouth.

758
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: Now go back to the weekend.

759
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, Syracuse wins that game by thirty and covers,

760
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,960
but that was a monster run they closed that game on.

761
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:23,159
Brian is nodding his head. Do you have any do

762
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:23,880
you want to throw it?

763
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,039
Speaker 4: Like?

764
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,639
Speaker 1: I think Syracuse outscored Drexel forty three to eighteen in

765
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,599
the second half of that game and covered when it

766
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,039
was a close game in the first half.

767
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you talk about a Syracuse team that

768
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,519
is eighth nationally with a plus thirty six scoring margin.

769
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,679
But be aware that that can be a little bit misleading.

770
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,199
As Trigg just alluded to, Qus was only a five

771
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,239
at the half against Trexel. They and they were getting

772
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,360
out rebounded, they were getting out worked on the boards,

773
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,840
King they lost the rebounding edge for the game. They

774
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,239
were dominated on the glass. As a matter of fact,

775
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480
in the first half they lost the rebounding battle nineteen

776
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,000
to eight over the first twenty minutes. You would not

777
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:06,039
expect that at all from the favorite. And then you

778
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,960
look at the Monmouth side. Okay, all, First of all,

779
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:12,320
they just played another big East team, Seat and Hall.

780
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,360
They go down by twelve, but the Hawk they were

781
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,320
up by as many as nine in the first half again,

782
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,519
actually led by seven at the half. So this is

783
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,440
a game, if you're just looking at final scores from

784
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,960
last time up, very very misleading because you had Syracuse

785
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,960
up by a very thin margin against Drexel while Monmouth

786
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,079
was actually beating Seaton Hall on the road at half. So, yeah,

787
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:40,079
I think you're onto something here. Trigg would completely co

788
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,960
sign with you, and you, Jay buff I know you

789
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,400
want me to say that as well. I think Monmouth

790
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,800
plus the points would be the way to play this.

791
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one more thing I'll add in regards to

792
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,599
the Monmouth side, which I didn't really offer much of

793
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:59,400
a handicap on the Mommet's side like they're perceived to

794
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,800
be this year, because of course Abbey Bashire goes to

795
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,400
Kansas State. Madison Durr I believe ended up somewhere in

796
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,840
the same conference, maybe un C Wilmington and those were

797
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,559
like the high volume scorers for them last year. But

798
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,159
like last year's team had issues like those two did

799
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,840
a lot of scoring. Jarrett Valencia was hurt for most

800
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,480
of the years or for most of the year, and

801
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,079
they like there was like that that team kind of

802
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:29,360
fell apart at times. So even though this team doesn't

803
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,119
have the star power of last year's team, like King

804
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:33,880
Rice is a very good coach. He's been a very

805
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,800
good coach for a long time. I almost think as

806
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,679
a unit they might be like better than what their

807
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,440
market projection is. And Brian alluded to some of that

808
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,159
in the recent game against Seaton Hall where they had

809
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:47,760
a lead for a long period of time in that

810
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,639
game and were competitive. So Jay buff listened though, you

811
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,840
got to cash the ticket if you want your flowers.

812
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,960
No flowers until tomorrow, except I think he might want

813
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,840
his flowers for the Lemoyne call last night.

814
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: We'll give him that.

815
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:04,159
Speaker 1: We just need to know if you're leading Syracuse out

816
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,000
of the court tonight, we can't bet this, so we

817
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,039
need to know that. Hopefully you're gonna watch this one

818
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,320
in the comfort of your own home. It's cold and

819
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,599
windy as hell out. You don't want to be walking

820
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:18,440
down on the streets of Syracuse tonight. It's gonna stay home,

821
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,840
don't lead the team out, and let's cash marsh mom

822
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,679
myth plus twenty two, which is a client plate for

823
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,840
me three percent, and he's saying he did last night.

824
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,199
If you led Lemoyn onto the floor, I'll lose. That

825
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,360
is just I can't. I need to believe see that

826
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,119
to believe it.

827
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: But you got you gotta tell Brian Power if you're

828
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,679
gonna do that, because he needs to, I mean.

829
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: He would I can't be Yeah, I can't bet again

830
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:44,639
on jab.

831
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: At any rate. We'll move it along.

832
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Mom myth plus twenty two first leg of the parlay

833
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,719
three percent played for Trigg and we'll leave it at that.

834
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360
All right, let's get back into the you know what, Actually,

835
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,920
I'm gonna go to Rob. We gotta we gotta hear

836
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,639
from Rob. Little dealer's choice.

837
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: For Rob.

838
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: We'll see if he wants to lock in his par

839
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,480
parlay leg or not. Throw something out there that we

840
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,159
can can chat about here.

841
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,599
Speaker 4: All right, two things, very quickly, I will throw out

842
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,599
a parlay leg that we've already talked about. I just

843
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,920
think Duke over eighty and a half team total is

844
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,440
an absolute way to go here. One last thing I'll

845
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,960
throw in in that particular game is that Kansas has

846
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,880
already faced this style, and faced this style with Peterson

847
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,360
and gave up eighty seven to UNC. And UNC is

848
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,599
not as good offense quick, not as quick as Duke

849
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,199
pace wise so far this year, not as good shooting

850
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,519
the basketball as Duke this year to me getting to

851
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,639
eighty one here, I don't know that Kansas can do

852
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,800
much about it. Secondly, Adam, I'll throw one out there

853
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,360
because we've talked a lot about these two teams so

854
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,760
far this year, and again, odd screen down, I apologize, guys,

855
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,320
I don't have exact current numbers to give you here,

856
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,599
but Little Rock and Murray State. Little Rock's been on

857
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,239
a journey all season long, right that there's a couple

858
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,280
of games in Wisconsin. I think it was I played

859
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,239
that team or that full game total against Marquette over

860
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,920
didn't work out because Little Rock came through with forty

861
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,880
nine points after Shaka Smart had said he was mad

862
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,320
at his defense, and they proved to be right. Little

863
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,039
Rock comes back. They score a little better. But Murray

864
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,920
State from the Missouri Valley we've talked about a little

865
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,880
bit here to Adam and they didn't get the money. Yeah,

866
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,559
they've like plus ten and a half and they're within

867
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,039
ten with like I don't know, thirty seconds left to go,

868
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,320
and they don't get the money in that particular game.

869
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Trying to forget who the bear of trying to remember

870
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,119
who the big favorite even was in that game. Now, anyway,

871
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,119
I think Murray State comes through here. I just don't

872
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,000
like the Little Rock offen. You know again, I've said

873
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,000
before that they're scattered shooting, they're sporadic. There's knights. They're

874
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,079
gonna have good nights. You played thirty four games in

875
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:06,000
college basketball, and the volume is good enough or enough

876
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,039
to on a night where you can shoot forty six

877
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,679
from the floor where you're gonna score big numbers. But

878
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,159
Little Rock just doesn't do that consistently enough for me

879
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,519
and to me, Murray State is going to be a

880
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,039
challenger in the MVC this year.

881
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:19,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

882
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Solid offense we've seen it so far, pretty good defense.

883
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,880
I think that in this particular game, in this particular matchup,

884
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,679
they can do what Little Rock does and even better.

885
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,280
So without having that number in front of me, I'm

886
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,519
gonna leave you with the thought that Murray State is

887
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,480
the right side in this game. Let me you know what.

888
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:43,920
I have an overnight though, Unless you guys can give

889
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,360
me a current, I'll tell you because I had to

890
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,599
check mark next to this game. That's why we're talking

891
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:55,599
about it. Murrays You guys got it?

892
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,679
Speaker 3: No, I got Murray State fourteen.

893
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,079
Speaker 4: Guys on the over fourteen it's in fourteen and a half.

894
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:03,639
Speaker 3: It's in fourteen and a half now.

895
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they're more than capable here. It

896
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,159
may sound like a lot, but Arkansas Little Rock is

897
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,239
a team that, just under Daryl Walker, they've got a

898
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,079
tendency to go with the huge droughts where Mury will

899
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,760
take advantage. So I think Murray State is worth a

900
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,519
look here in this game. Guys. Somewhere in the I

901
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:22,800
don't know I'm gonna call it somewhere in the eighty

902
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,559
four sixty eight vicinity something like that. I could see

903
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:27,440
that very well happening.

904
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna work so oh, go ahead, Brian.

905
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: I was going to close the parlay out when I.

906
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: Was gonna go yeah, Page as usual, That's what I

907
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,800
was going for.

908
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm going to your neck of the woods here, Trig.

909
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,039
I'm going to talk Princeton. Iona. I thought about giving

910
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:51,199
you T Martin now as my leg of the parlay,

911
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,880
but I agree with somebody of the chat who said,

912
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,679
maybe ut Martin's a little bit of a public dog.

913
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,599
I don't like those public dogs. I like dogs where

914
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:59,400
nobody's taking them. But here I'm giving out a favorite

915
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,760
I like here. It'd still get three and a half. Iwona, guys,

916
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,840
is off to a great start. Why is Ion off

917
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,360
to great start? Well, we talk about three point variants

918
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,360
all the time, and there aren't many teams in the

919
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,440
country right now winning the three point variance battle more

920
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,519
than the Iona Gales. This is a team shooting over

921
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,679
forty two percent from behind the arc. Their opponents are

922
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,679
barely making twenty percent. Will that discrepancy sustain over the

923
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,519
course from full season Adam trigger Robbino, No, it absolutely

924
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:33,199
will not. But at home lay in a short number here.

925
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,519
I think even if that, if those numbers begin to tighten,

926
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:41,119
I think we're okay. Princeton's a team I'm looking at.

927
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,679
They lose their top three scorers from last year. The

928
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,559
offense isn't there, They're not getting second chance opportunities. I

929
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,719
own a as a short favorite, is going to be

930
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,079
how I close out this parlay?

931
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to say it, but because of course

932
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,239
that's you know, as a Siana guy, Iona, we hate them,

933
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:05,000
hate hate you all, but those are two rivals. I

934
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,079
have been like more, I've been as impressed with Iona

935
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,000
as maybe any any team in the country this year

936
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,840
in terms of like, so new head coach Dan Dreau

937
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,039
comes in, he's an NBA guy. They went the route

938
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,360
of like NBA assistant, and you know, they kind of

939
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:24,519
are doing things that you know, the rest of the

940
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:27,760
Matt Conference maybe poked fun at them a little bit.

941
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,079
Speaker 2: Like for going the route that they did.

942
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: Of course, the guy that the guy that they fired,

943
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,400
Tobin Anderson, famously provided Brian and I with one of

944
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,519
the best moments of our lives in the steakhouse with

945
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,039
Fairley Dickinson knocking off or just with trash in the place,

946
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,519
which is awesome. Uh, he goes to Iona kind of

947
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:50,840
get like gets ousted from his job. A lot of

948
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,039
people didn't think he deserved to get fired, but they

949
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,559
wanted to just switch it up, go a different route.

950
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,239
They bring in an NBA assistant in and all of

951
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,679
like I heard some mixed things this summer with like

952
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,800
you know, people that have that got to go attend

953
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,559
practice and stuff, and but like the comments he was making,

954
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:12,119
I feel like, I feel like Dure came out and

955
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:14,960
was like listen, we're it's going to be a slow

956
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,360
build and stuff like that, because he just didn't want

957
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,679
to like set unnecessary expectations. But everything I heard from

958
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:24,119
people going to watch Iona in practice was like, this

959
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:26,880
team's going to be really good and they are just

960
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,079
like you know, the practices were like super dynamic, a

961
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,800
lot of different things going on, and and I just

962
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,000
think that they might be onto something. And there's probably

963
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,719
a reason that they They must have had a really

964
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,079
good feeling about the guy that they were bringing in,

965
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,280
because like by all accounts, Tobin Anderson's a pretty good

966
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,199
coach and a lot of Like even the coaching community

967
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,000
was like, can't believe they let him go.

968
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: So I'm just.

969
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,679
Speaker 1: Trying to like read the tea leaves a little bit.

970
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,679
But like, now I've got to watch Iona a couple

971
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,840
of times and they get like a plus marks from me.

972
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:05,440
Are they gonna regress at some point? Probably can't hit

973
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,480
shots like they've been hitting all season long, But until

974
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,679
they do, I'd be scared to bet against them. So, Brian,

975
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,519
I'm gonna I'm not gonna go against that leg and

976
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,320
I'll be rooting. Unfortunately, you'll make me root for Iona

977
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,920
for tonight.

978
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: I do want to add one thing, well, it was

979
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,679
a different coaching staff for this is a revenge spot

980
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,840
for the Gaels as well. They lost the season opener

981
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,119
last year by one to Princeton on last second free throws,

982
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:33,760
and that was a game on the road. Iona led

983
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,840
by twelve at the half. The players remember. It may

984
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,880
be different coaches, but the players remember, give me give

985
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,320
me Iona.

986
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: Treg remembers because he was in the building for that game.

987
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,079
I was in the building for that game. Of course,

988
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,719
they totally but but remember that Princeton team xaviian Lee

989
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,239
won that.

990
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: Game for them.

991
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 3: And he was the guy. Yes he made the free throws,

992
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,280
Yes yes, yes, yes, he.

993
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,199
Speaker 2: Single handedly won that game.

994
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,519
Speaker 1: Iona was the better team the entire time, and they

995
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,039
had a great look to win it, which you could

996
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:06,000
still probably find in my Twitter history if you go

997
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,360
back and go through, and I posted that I was

998
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,840
at that game last year and I ownA had just

999
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,800
a dream look from the elbow to win and rimmed out. Yeah,

1000
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,559
twelve and a half point dog. Back when I used

1001
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,039
to cash tickets in person. Now I just lose when

1002
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:21,280
I go to games and bet on the team that

1003
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:21,800
I need.

1004
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 2: So but anyway, uh.

1005
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,039
Speaker 1: Let's so we are going to go the full hour,

1006
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:29,239
even though we started late. We're gonna go the full hour.

1007
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
And actually I don't think we have like the usual

1008
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:33,360
hard stop today, So we'll get you.

1009
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:34,719
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six dollars on a coffee at MVP Arena last night,

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Speaker 3: You get it quicker than that place? Did you get

1032
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it quicker than that place? We went to an East

1033
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Lasts Okay, that was something else.

1034
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like they were yeah, like they had

1035
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1036
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1037
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Speaker 2: I want to go to UH. I want to go

1038
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,280
to the chat here.

1039
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Because this is an interesting one and I'll bring Rob

1040
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,360
back in, uh, because we've had opinions on the team

1041
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,679
all year, and that team would be the Xavier Musketeers.

1042
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,400
Now the chat question is ODU money line? Is that

1043
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,840
worth a sprinkle? My gut says no, this is Xavier

1044
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,239
probably gets a win here.

1045
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,639
Speaker 2: And I made the number nine and a half.

1046
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,559
Speaker 1: But like Rob, I was kind of hoping that the

1047
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:21,480
market was still out of whack on Xavier. I think

1048
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:23,800
I would have taken Odu with a few more points.

1049
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: At the current number. I couldn't do it. What about you?

1050
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't do it with Xavier at any point

1051
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,679
until we see something different.

1052
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,079
Speaker 1: Now.

1053
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: I will say from a Xavier perspective, the schedule has

1054
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000
been not the easiest of well. I mean, it's not

1055
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:43,840
a cake walk type of schedule. So maybe some of

1056
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,280
the results we're seeing is the is the product of

1057
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,639
them playing up above their heads here. I'm not sure

1058
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:55,360
that they're playing up and above their heads. Sometimes you

1059
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,719
come back to, you know, regress back to the mean

1060
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,119
of where you should be placed play better basketball. But

1061
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,920
all that being said, Xavier is not a team at

1062
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,800
this point in time that you would have any interest

1063
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,559
in laying points with. It's in fact, I'll tell you this,

1064
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,960
it's a game where, like I said my overnight sheet

1065
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,280
here last night, I absolutely crossed it off because I

1066
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,519
want to see Xavier playing against some lesser competition first

1067
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,119
and just see if I can get a true read

1068
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,840
on them. Are they just a team that's not going

1069
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,079
to compete in Big East Basketball this year, or are

1070
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,840
they a team where, you know, against lesser competition, maybe

1071
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,360
they have a chance. I looked at total in this game, guys,

1072
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,480
because that's where my eyes are always first drawn to.

1073
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,760
But in watching Patinos and the other night against Iowa,

1074
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,800
I had Iowa lane fifteen and a half, and Xavier

1075
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,280
was in that game for I don't know half of

1076
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,320
the game, and then the damn just broke and Iowa

1077
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,719
poured it on. There was a time when I thought, man,

1078
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,440
I might not make this fifteen and a half. Then

1079
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,920
it teetered fourteen sixteen, fourteen sixteen until Iowa got the

1080
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,639
to get the cover. So they hung in a little

1081
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:07,000
bit against a very good Iowa team in Carver Hawk eye.

1082
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,599
That's not the easiest thing to do. I would in

1083
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:13,000
my personal case, I'm gonna stay away from Xavier until

1084
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,559
I get a couple more reads on them. We know

1085
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:18,480
they're not what they usually are, but what does that

1086
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:21,800
mean exactly? I'm not so sure, so I'll stay off

1087
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,519
of this game. I can't argue anybody off of ODU

1088
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:26,599
after the results we've seen so far.

1089
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: Up muted, thank you, mute trick.

1090
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,559
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'll point out something that came to mind as

1091
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:43,440
I look at Xavier's like recent results, I'm having similar

1092
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,800
pause that I had with the Drake Charleston game last night,

1093
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,639
like where it's like a couple of just such horrific results,

1094
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,840
and you know, you look at you talk about like Xavier,

1095
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,239
you know, you get blown out at home by Santa Clara,

1096
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,119
you end up losing by nineteen to Eyewall, the like

1097
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:02,639
Rob said, there was some like redeeming qualities in that

1098
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,880
in that game, listen, at some point, like it's still

1099
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Richard Patino, He's still got some talent. At some point

1100
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,920
they're gonna probably have a good one at home. And

1101
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,760
my whole thing is like Old Dominion, I probably i'd

1102
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,119
probably have a different opinion if I didn't watch that

1103
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:22,639
ODU George Washington game over the weekend, because I thought

1104
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,639
Old Dominion was gonna be a live dog there and

1105
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:28,039
they just got run out of the building by George Washington.

1106
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,039
Speaker 2: Now George Washington's good this year. I like them.

1107
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,039
Speaker 1: They're a better team than Xavier, but like they were also,

1108
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,000
I think laying like seventeen to Old Dominion in that

1109
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:40,119
game destroyed them. So now it's like only again. I

1110
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:42,639
think the books got this number right. I would have

1111
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,519
liked a number closer to I would have been more

1112
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,360
willing to take Old Dominion if I was getting the

1113
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,320
same number that I was getting in that that George

1114
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,079
Washington ODU game. But now that I'm only it's only

1115
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,400
nine and a half. Like, I don't know. Something tells

1116
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,519
me if Xavier puts together a game, they're gonna win

1117
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:03,440
this by ten, ten, eleven, twelve. So I'm kind of

1118
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,159
out on this one. No play for me, Rob, I'm

1119
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:10,119
gonna kick it back to you because you're the West

1120
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:14,119
Coast guru and we have a rivalry in Riverside tonight

1121
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,800
that Garth would like to talk about. So let's bring

1122
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,719
Garth back in. Let's talk about two schools that are

1123
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,360
about eight minutes apart, and that would.

1124
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: Be cal Baptist and Uce Riverside.

1125
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know much about this rivalry, but I'm sure

1126
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,199
the fact that they're eight minutes apart makes it a

1127
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:33,599
big deal locally. And Garth wants to talk about totals,

1128
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:35,719
so that's kind of West Coast and totals is right

1129
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,320
in your wheelhouse, so we'll go to you here.

1130
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: First. Inclination where cal Baptist is involved is to probably

1131
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,760
try and stay under again. Rick Froyd is a guy

1132
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,119
who we've I remember best from Mississippi State at the time.

1133
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:57,519
Slower paced guy brings that to Baptist. As I look

1134
00:56:57,519 --> 00:57:01,480
at the analytics now, three hundred and ninety average possession length,

1135
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:04,000
so that goes right with who he is trying to

1136
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:07,239
slow this game down against Riverside. Riverside, I think we

1137
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,719
talked about guys. Was it the New Mexico game? It

1138
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,360
was some game where we talked about them a little bit.

1139
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:18,320
Gus Arginal a guy who has tried to change styles

1140
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,559
for Riverside two and two so far, the schedule has

1141
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:25,760
not been better. It's interesting that you play North Dakota

1142
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,000
in a home and home. Those games were very close

1143
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:33,239
four and two points lose by fourteen, however, to New

1144
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Mexico and a team that's actually in a complete grassroots

1145
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:40,920
rebuilding stage at this point in time, so that's not

1146
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,039
a good sign. I think my best advice on this

1147
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:48,800
game comes to something we've been saying for about two

1148
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,719
and a half weeks now, is that some of these

1149
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:56,880
teams that have some philosophical changes in their style take

1150
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,519
time to gel. To me, Riverside is one of those.

1151
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,000
Baptist knows who they are. I think they can control

1152
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:07,639
the game here and a half Brian. I think we

1153
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:09,960
said it earlier this year. When you get involved in

1154
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,559
games like this, a lot of times you don't realize

1155
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,599
how hard it is to get to one forty. When

1156
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,480
you have the crawlers on the floor. It's just and

1157
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,719
it's not like you're going to get a ton of

1158
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,599
foul shot opportunities in this game. So the odds maker

1159
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:26,679
probably has this price in a really good place at

1160
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:29,480
this point in time, and I would be hesitant to

1161
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,119
play either way. I'm not going to talk anybody off

1162
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:35,719
of a off of a feeling that they have on

1163
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,280
a game, especially if I don't have a stance on it.

1164
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,719
So if you want to play over Garth, I would

1165
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:43,079
play over. But to me, the numbers are too tough

1166
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:45,360
of a place for me to give really solid advice

1167
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,440
either way.

1168
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,119
Speaker 3: You know, if you're looking for a team who's scoring

1169
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:52,400
points to night, I'm just going to do a hard

1170
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,800
right turn here trick before the parlay recap when we

1171
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,800
get out of here for team team that I think

1172
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,079
is going to put some points on the board. And

1173
00:58:58,119 --> 00:58:59,880
it's a team we've talked about on this program, Forced

1174
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,880
State University playing Eastern Kentucky. Eastern Eastern Kentucky is a team.

1175
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:08,280
The way they are going to play defense, they give

1176
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,079
up a lot of open looks from three. And what

1177
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:13,880
has Kent State been doing so far this year? They've

1178
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,199
been knocking them down. This is a team that we've

1179
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:18,960
mentioned the show. They're shooting a lot better from three

1180
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,760
than they did last year. I think that continues today.

1181
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,360
I would look at the Kent State team total over

1182
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,480
against Eastern Kentucky and that number real quick here I

1183
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,400
forgot I wrote it down on the I didn't write

1184
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it down eighty four and a half. I think they

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can get to it. They cleared it their first three

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games of the year. Kept they scored one ten, eighty

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six and one two their first three games before scorredill

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only seventy six against Wright State that one to two

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against Cleveland State. By the way I was played, the

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game was playing in Greenbrier, a resort out in the

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middle of nowhere in West Virginia by the National Department

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for those keeping squirredal Yeah, for those keeping score at home.

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So this is a kent State team that can score

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no matter where they're at home. Tonight, I think Eastern

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Kentucky struggles get stops.

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Speaker 1: I just realized someone said, you sound good trigging. That

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was definitely when I was muted. So outstanding troll right there.

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That's I'll tip my cap to that one. Absolutely love it.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the sound of my voice either, but

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I some things in life you don't get to choose,

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and that is you know that, that's one of them.

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I'm just scrolling here because we typically have to get

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out right at the hour mark.

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Speaker 2: Today we have another minute.

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01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get one at the horn and then

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we'll recap the parlay because I know we got other

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01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,199
shows to be on and stuff. I'm just doing a

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01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,159
quick walk today. Yeah, Brian Power will be on Wager

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01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,719
Talk today. It is five dollars Tuesday. Check out our pages.

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,960
I'll put one of my pages up, or I'll put

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one of my plays up on the page. But also

1213
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,159
I'm gonna have a pretty big card today college Hoop

1214
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,239
because I've already got three plays out and there's like

1215
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,320
a lot more that I like.

1216
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,079
Speaker 2: So check out that full Court Press special.

1217
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: It's a great deal for three days and you get

1218
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,199
all the plays for three days, and in college basketball season,

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01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:10,800
for me, that's gonna be much more volume than it

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will the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: I got one I want to finish it up with

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,280
because I just think that this game deserves a little

1224
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,159
bit of attention out here in Western New York. Tonight

1225
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:22,360
we have a couple four and oh teams going at it,

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and that would be the Vermont Catamounts and the Buffalo Bulls.

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Figured Vermont would be four and oh at this point,

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,079
did not expect Buffalo another Max school Brian to be four.

1229
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:40,199
Power rating wise, I think Vermont is the superior team.

1230
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,400
It opened minus one and a half. I agree with

1231
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,840
the move up to three. I think it got to

1232
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,920
three and a half and some folks punched back with

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Buffalo have I think it's gonna be a really good game.

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01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,360
Slightly into Vermont toward me for me there, just because

1235
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,280
I think they're the superior team. I don't give Buffalo

1236
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,119
like this huge home court edge. They tend to not

1237
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:03,079
get like a very you know that they if I

1238
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:05,239
recalled this, Buffalo plays football tonight too.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere? Are they playing in one of the Mac games tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Right?

1241
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: Is it tomorrow?

1242
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,719
Speaker 4: They played?

1243
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,599
Speaker 3: They played tomorrow against Miami Ohio.

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: Oh, actually so they have.

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,639
Speaker 1: I think that's a game that's in Buffalo. Is that

1246
01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:17,519
game in Buffalo?

1247
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,039
Speaker 3: It is?

1248
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:20,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, the quitter.

1249
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,119
Speaker 3: Dick one again will not be a companying Miami Ohio.

1250
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe.

1251
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: You'll get some folks out of that game. I don't know.

1252
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: My my initial gut on the open was that if

1253
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,280
you could get a Vermont money line at like minus

1254
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,960
one twenty five, like they're just a superior of those

1255
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,599
two teams. And I wish I had more of a

1256
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:37,679
handicap there for you. But should be a good game.

1257
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:41,039
And uh, you know, just to touch on before I

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01:02:41,079 --> 01:02:43,079
closed out, did you enter any of you have have

1259
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,920
a thought on Vermont Buffalo in college basketball tonight?

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: I'll pass.

1261
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Hey, I actually think that that's probably

1262
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,760
the play. But you know, sneaky matchup there with a

1263
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,920
couple of teams that have kind of started four and

1264
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,599
oh uh, you know, I certainly don't think anyone had

1265
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:03,440
Buffalo four. And now at this point outright went over

1266
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:05,599
to Paul as an eighteen and a half.

1267
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,559
Speaker 2: Point dog on the road for the Bulls.

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01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:09,679
Speaker 1: So it should be an interesting game, a lot of

1269
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:12,280
interesting games, a lot of plays to check out our

1270
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,960
respective pages. It's five dollars Tuesday, so you're gonna be

1271
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,000
able to grab a five dollars play from each of us.

1272
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:20,599
Speaker 2: A bunch of good specials up there right now. I

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01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:21,280
gave you one of.

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01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: My client plays in the parlay that's going to be

1275
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,199
Monmouth plus twenty two and plus twenty two.

1276
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,519
Speaker 2: I saw twenty one and a half's out there.

1277
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: That's fine if you can, you know, if you have

1278
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,000
to take twenty one and a half in that, I

1279
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:35,159
think that's still fine for a three percent play, which

1280
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:38,320
is what I gave to my clients. We have Brian Power,

1281
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,599
He's going iona minus three and a half and then

1282
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:46,199
Vino's gonna close it out in the nightcap of that

1283
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,239
New York City Big Time feature doubleheader tonight with Duke

1284
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,639
over eighty and a half. So mom myth plus twenty two,

1285
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:56,559
ion A minus three and a half and then Duke

1286
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:59,800
over eighty and a half. Thank you guys for bearing

1287
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,440
with us today. Sorry about the technical difficulties. It looks

1288
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,000
like it wasn't just us. Seems like a few people

1289
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:09,880
had Internet problems this morning. So we got through the show.

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01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:12,880
Hopefully we got you some winners and we will be back,

1291
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,360
you know, as long as the Internet allows it. We'll

1292
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,239
be back at ten am tomorrow for another edition of

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,000
Full Court Press.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys then,