Speaker 1: Billy cunning in the Great American two weeks and today.
Speaker 1: It all happens November the fifth, But until then, getting ready,
Speaker 1: of course for the Bengals on Sunday, the Birds. The
Speaker 1: Birds are in town. The Eagles, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: the Bengals only a two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1: Watching the Ravens last night, they look impregnable. They look
Speaker 1: like to imagine no line, unbelievable. But nonetheless, there's always
Speaker 1: hope when we have Joe Burrow, there's always hope. Joining
Speaker 1: you and I now is Liz Bonus, the health and
Speaker 1: medical reporter from Local twelve, and Liz Bonus, welcome again
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham shown.
Speaker 2: Liz, how are you?
Speaker 3: Hey? I am great. Did you know that there's a
Speaker 3: name for what happens when your team loses, like in
Speaker 3: the day after you feel miserable?
Speaker 2: I'd like to know that what is it?
Speaker 3: It's called the letdown effect? And when you wouldn't surprise
Speaker 3: me at all. Huh So what happens is like, you know,
Speaker 3: we all have this high hope going in and then
Speaker 3: we're all like if we don't win, and it actually
Speaker 3: is linked to a less productive Monday. Yes, and for
Speaker 3: some reason. They say, sometimes you can manage it on
Speaker 3: your own. But the cure part is actually gonna be
Speaker 3: with other miserable people like you. You better to go
Speaker 3: to work and complain.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm with Scott Sloan a lot because he's miserable
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: So I get that.
Speaker 1: But I can imagine the day after the election if
Speaker 1: Trump wins, I can imagine Democrats and many others angry
Speaker 1: as city, pissed off, whatever it might be. And on
Speaker 1: the other hand, of Kamala Harris's wins, I can imagine
Speaker 1: Tony Bender and others gonna commit Harry Carey and suicide
Speaker 1: and drive into a bridge abutment. So we're gonna need
Speaker 1: your health the day or two after the election. We
Speaker 1: need your Will you be available the day or two
Speaker 1: after the election to hold my hand if things don't
Speaker 1: go right?
Speaker 3: I will. Actually I'm doing some stories on that, like,
Speaker 3: because I'm really concerned about us being able to talk
Speaker 3: to each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, if someone in your life doesn't love who you
Speaker 3: love for elections, this could be a really long month after.
Speaker 2: Oh it's going to be awful. Talk about something I want.
Speaker 1: I monitor you every day that I can, and you
Speaker 1: have something called the death Clock app. Doctor Dodgers and
Speaker 1: also Love Sleeping. Tell the American people about the death
Speaker 1: clock app?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Okay? All right? So I interviewed a gentleman who just
Speaker 3: about three months ago, after twenty years of living with
Speaker 3: a mental health illness which he said he did not
Speaker 3: actually have, he decided he wanted to make some changes
Speaker 3: in his life. And he began to look up like
Speaker 3: what do I have to do to live longer? In
Speaker 3: that kind of thing? And he realized that we have
Speaker 3: some control, not all of it, over how long we live.
Speaker 3: And he has developed something you can find on like
Speaker 3: you know, the Google App Store and whatnot. And if
Speaker 3: you go on it and you look under death Clock app,
Speaker 3: you can call it up and you answer twenty five
Speaker 3: questions about your health, your age, your history, a little
Speaker 3: bit about you know, what you do to stay well
Speaker 3: or not, and it will give you the predicted date
Speaker 3: you will die.
Speaker 1: It's a special like April the eighth, twenty ninety four,
Speaker 1: so an actual date in the time you're.
Speaker 2: Going to die.
Speaker 3: Well, it says you'll live to be like one hundred
Speaker 3: and six. Okay, oh, you can predict your death date.
Speaker 3: This I had one of my colleagues go on it
Speaker 3: because truthfully, I didn't know if I wanted to, because
Speaker 3: you know, if you eat, write, exercise, and then you
Speaker 3: feel like you're going to die anyway, it can be
Speaker 3: really discouraging. Get another influence. I mean, I mean my
Speaker 3: habits now, because I'm like, what would I do with
Speaker 3: that information? I can't run any more mild, I can't
Speaker 3: eat any more vegetables. I can't, you know. So I
Speaker 3: was a little worried. But he went on and found
Speaker 3: out he's going to live to be one hundred and six,
Speaker 3: So really, well, there's hope. Gun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I keep telling it.
Speaker 1: It's about your weight, your metabolism, your blood pressure, all
Speaker 1: that stuff, your genetics, and it gives you an approximate
Speaker 1: date you're going to die. Would you want to know
Speaker 1: when you're going to die? If somebody tapped in your
Speaker 1: shoulder list? Bonus, you're in great shape, you look wonderful,
Speaker 1: and you want to you want to know you're going
Speaker 1: to die in twenty fifty seven?
Speaker 2: Do you want to know that?
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 3: I told you, like, I kind of worry that it
Speaker 3: will be a self fulfilling prophecy. If it says I'm
Speaker 3: going to be dead next week, you know, yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, so I'm still thinking about it. But
Speaker 3: I've had brave enough people that were brave enough go
Speaker 3: on and do it, and it's fascinating. And then I
Speaker 3: started reaching out to people for our story about longevity
Speaker 3: and it's very interesting. There are things now everything from
Speaker 3: hormones to lifestyle to even prevention medications. You know, for example,
Speaker 3: a woman now can take demoxafin at high risk for
Speaker 3: breast cancer. We've never had a breast cancer prevention pill
Speaker 3: that can add a lot of years to your life.
Speaker 3: So it really sort of sparks you to reach out
Speaker 3: and ask questions. And I do love that idea of
Speaker 3: it because we feel helpless, but we may not be.
Speaker 3: And so that's where we're going with that story. I'll
Speaker 3: let you know when I get the drop dead date.
Speaker 1: Though death clock app Tony Benders right now on his
Speaker 1: phone trying to find out how long his hands to live.
Speaker 2: If you're going to die within the next year, let
Speaker 2: it rip.
Speaker 1: Secondly, you did a segment I think it was last night,
Speaker 1: about sleeping that somehow I have difficulty sleeping.
Speaker 2: I think many Americans do.
Speaker 1: I have thoughts running around my head like a be
Speaker 1: being an empty railroad box car. I think about what's
Speaker 1: coming up. I worry about this. I worry about that.
Speaker 1: It takes me two to three hours go to sleep
Speaker 1: every night. I don't even try at about one o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, and then I try by three o'clock.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm as sleep. I'm up at eight o'clock in
Speaker 1: away I go. So I think most Americans have trouble sleeping.
Speaker 1: There's all these medications out there. There's all the CBD
Speaker 1: out there. There's all the other pills and medicines or
Speaker 1: any of them, legit, relaxium, et cetera. Should you do it,
Speaker 1: should you not do it? Should you try pots, Should
Speaker 1: you try hot milk? Should you have some chocolate, not
Speaker 1: have chocolate? Should you exercise or not exercise? Should you
Speaker 1: make love or not make love? It's like an aphrodisiac.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give me the answer to Liz Bonus?
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 3: You know? I think if I had all those answers,
Speaker 3: I would not be here on Willie's Show. I would
Speaker 3: be a millionaire somewhere, you know, like off with the eyelids.
Speaker 3: Those are really good questions. And the thing that's so
Speaker 3: interesting about that is that for some people, having sex
Speaker 3: before you go to bed helps them fall asleep. For
Speaker 3: some people it keeps you awake. For some people, exercise
Speaker 3: late in the day keeps you awaken. For other people
Speaker 3: that knocks you out. That's the problem. It's so individualized
Speaker 3: that I don't know that there's one formula that fits all,
Speaker 3: which is you know why I always have a job,
Speaker 3: because it will always change and there's always something new.
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this, it's the eighth. The
Speaker 3: American Heart Association has eight habits of good health, you know, eating, riot, exercise,
Speaker 3: watching your cholesterol, And just within the past year or so,
Speaker 3: they added eight hours of sleep because they started to
Speaker 3: see that if you did everything else but you did
Speaker 3: not sleep, told that it took on your health was
Speaker 3: really significant. It influenced blood pressure, it influenced weight, it
Speaker 3: influenced stress level, and all of those things, of course
Speaker 3: play a role in your heart disease risks. And now
Speaker 3: we're the reason I was doing a story is now
Speaker 3: we're also finding those habits may play a role in
Speaker 3: your cancer risks, as well, so you're like, whoa, You know,
Speaker 3: I should at least get all those, and most of
Speaker 3: us get most of them except the sleep thing. And
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's because we're praised to
Speaker 3: not sleep. Ask somebody asked that question to Donald Trump
Speaker 3: a while back, and he said he sleeps like four
Speaker 3: to six hours a night, doesn't need anymore. And so
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you could be superhuman. You can be president.
Speaker 3: But you know, we should be praised for resting, we
Speaker 3: should be praised for relaxing, We should be praised for snoozing,
Speaker 3: and we aren't. We're just not that kind of a society.
Speaker 3: You know in places like Japan and that they have
Speaker 3: nap rooms and map tents in your office, you can
Speaker 3: climb into them and take what do they call like
Speaker 3: that crash nap. Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: And I can't do the twenty minute thing because I'm
Speaker 3: like you, I lay in bed saut the national bet
Speaker 3: and I don't know which comes first, like me trying
Speaker 3: to solve it or the national debt. It's a cycle
Speaker 3: and I can knock get out of it.
Speaker 2: How good is a nap? How good is a nap?
Speaker 1: Like at three four o'clock in the afternoon, because many
Speaker 1: European cultures it's almost required they shut their businesses down
Speaker 1: for two hours so the owner and the employees can
Speaker 1: take a nap or chill out. Is that as good
Speaker 1: as sleeping, Say you sleep five or six hours and
Speaker 1: then you rest, or you go to nap about an
Speaker 1: hour in the afternoon. Is that the same as sleeping
Speaker 1: seven or eight hours.
Speaker 3: The sleep experts that I have talked to have said
Speaker 3: power naps are really good, like twenty or thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: but two hour naps are not because they're disruptive to
Speaker 3: that cycle. And the minimum number of hours is about
Speaker 3: five before you see like stroke wristks go up. Even
Speaker 3: getting six or seven is better, and eight is perfect.
Speaker 3: The problem with the short sleep in the nap is
Speaker 3: that there's a cycle of sleep and if you don't
Speaker 3: ever get into that deep sleep, then you don't experience
Speaker 3: you know, they say, like I don't dream and all that.
Speaker 3: Don't get into that really deep sleep, you don't get
Speaker 3: some of the healing benefits from it. So I don't
Speaker 3: know that it's about like five or six hours in
Speaker 3: the nap. I think it's how long does it take
Speaker 3: you to get into that real snooze thing where you're
Speaker 3: kind of out of it and dead to the world.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of different for everyone, but usually at
Speaker 3: least seven hours a night it takes to get that.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you can make up with
Speaker 3: that with napping. I know, if I nap a little bit,
Speaker 3: I almost wake up feeling worse, like hw you know,
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of like, you go till you drop.
Speaker 3: Not that I'm saying that's a good thing, but I
Speaker 3: was doing the story because it is a significant health
Speaker 3: habit that most of us simply don't do. And you know,
Speaker 3: you talk to anyone busy, it's not always on purpose.
Speaker 3: It's just that's our lifestyle now and it's what we've created,
Speaker 3: which if we had that other culture of snoozing more,
Speaker 3: we probably would find it more socially acceptable to say
Speaker 3: I'm going to lay down the middle of the day. Otherwise,
Speaker 3: if you find someone sleeping at their desk, you're like, ooh,
Speaker 3: tell the boss.
Speaker 1: You know, Can I tell you a constant dream that
Speaker 1: I have and you can interpret my dream? It's a
Speaker 1: it happened. It happened this morning about two o'clock, two thirty.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at bright Bart, I'm over at dread state
Speaker 1: dot com. And I finally go to bed, and I
Speaker 1: go to sleep, and I had this terrible dream, which
Speaker 1: is a recurring nightmare.
Speaker 2: Are you ready sure?
Speaker 1: I have this terrible sense that I'm about to die
Speaker 1: and then I'm falling, but I never hit the ground
Speaker 1: at someone breaking into the door. I got my AR fifteen,
Speaker 1: I got my twelve gates was shot in it. I
Speaker 1: got this and that. But I can never Actually, I'll
Speaker 1: always fear what's going to happen, but it never occurs.
Speaker 1: And I think, and if I finally had this recurring
Speaker 1: dream that I'm about to be killed or murdered and
Speaker 1: that I'm falling and I hit the ground, that's all
Speaker 1: I'm going to die. But I always wake up many
Speaker 1: times in fear, like I'm looking around the room, where
Speaker 1: is that guy who's got the knife who's just plunging
Speaker 1: into my heart? I have this constant dream that I'm falling,
Speaker 1: but I never hit the ground. Can you interpret that
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a very interesting dream. Now, I'm not a
Speaker 3: dream expert, but I will tell you that, having asked
Speaker 3: a few questions for health stories, I would tell you that.
Speaker 3: They say that dreams are things that you are like
Speaker 3: fleeting thoughts in the day and you don't have time
Speaker 3: to process them, and they process in your dreams. So
Speaker 3: I would tell you two things. One is you're not
Speaker 3: feeling real safe these days, and two you're probably overwhelmed
Speaker 3: in some aspect of life because it's recurring, yes, and
Speaker 3: it keeps. It's like the pile on. So you're going
Speaker 3: to have to like start, you know, barring the door
Speaker 3: or some are getting a big dog or something.
Speaker 2: Well, I've done that. I've done that. I have a
Speaker 2: security system.
Speaker 1: I have my windows are all plug correctly, the doors
Speaker 1: of double locks. The bedroom door's got a padlock on it.
Speaker 1: I have weapons which I keep inside of a box
Speaker 1: so they don't want to get up half a sleeve,
Speaker 1: pull up my weapons and start shooting people. So I
Speaker 1: have to go through a system, put my thumb down
Speaker 1: then and then I had to put a numeric code
Speaker 1: in to get my weapons. But I never have the
Speaker 1: time to get to the weapons because the guys on
Speaker 1: top of me plunging a dagger into my heart and
Speaker 1: I think it's some iHeart media executive doing it. And
Speaker 1: so I have this. I have the recurring dream. I
Speaker 1: can't get to my three point fifty seven. I can't
Speaker 1: get to the governor, which is like a handheld shotgun.
Speaker 1: I can't get to my three eighty six hour p.
Speaker 1: Two thirty eight. I can't quite get there, and the
Speaker 1: guy kills me before I get there. But I'm not dead,
Speaker 1: and so I have time to get up to fight him.
Speaker 1: But I can't fight him. I can't get to my box.
Speaker 1: I can't get to the fingerprint, I can't get to
Speaker 1: then americal code, and the guy stands me again, and
Speaker 1: I'm not lying there in blood and I can't find
Speaker 1: my weapons.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? Liz?
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? I have a recurring dream.
Speaker 1: It's like an iHeart media executive stabbing me in the back.
Speaker 2: What do you think? How need help?
Speaker 3: One of two things? Man. I just keep my three
Speaker 3: fifty seven loaded by the bed, and I.
Speaker 2: Thought I got out, I thought, but what happens?
Speaker 1: But someone like a penny or or the kids or something.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I'm half awake
Speaker 1: half asleep.
Speaker 2: I need help, and I need it now.
Speaker 3: Well, some would say there's a different kind of help
Speaker 3: you need if that's really the case, just so you know,
Speaker 3: and we might need to like exploit that in therapy somewhere.
Speaker 3: And there's a wonderful sentence that I've learned. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm a nutritionist and a health reporter, but that's beyond
Speaker 3: my scope of practice.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should go to stant next and see the
Speaker 1: counseling department.
Speaker 3: A great counselor absolutelye No.
Speaker 1: Now, lastly, you have something that Tony Benner's interested in.
Speaker 1: The doctor dodgers Tony Hayes go to the doctor. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go. I go to doctors all the time.
Speaker 1: I got my heart, I got my I got my
Speaker 1: practological exam, I got my Euro Eurological. I got my
Speaker 1: eye exam coming up. I got cholesterol test. I'm in
Speaker 1: this group mdv IP, I doal. But Tony refuses to
Speaker 1: go to a doctor for anything. His heart's not working.
Speaker 1: Hes in a bib movement in about three weeks. And
Speaker 1: the guy's in trouble talk about men, especially that Dodge doctors,
Speaker 1: and I need some help.
Speaker 2: I need help. Go ahead, Ah.
Speaker 3: Well, poor Tony, he you know we can we can
Speaker 3: work on this. I know lots of good people, but
Speaker 3: actually a survey was just released. My agency put this out,
Speaker 3: and they actually found that at least one in four
Speaker 3: of us have not been to a doctor in years,
Speaker 3: and they have named them doctor dodgers. And so of
Speaker 3: course your logical thing is, well, why, And there's a
Speaker 3: number of reasons, but the number one and two are
Speaker 3: my doctor either retired or I moved, so you don't
Speaker 3: even know like who's taking new patients. And then the
Speaker 3: others and I actually really love this one because I
Speaker 3: believe it's true. Pretty much said they had a bad experience,
Speaker 3: or they felt judged when they went to the doctors,
Speaker 3: or they didn't like the idea that they were going
Speaker 3: to be criticized or told they weren't good enough. When
Speaker 3: I have to tell you in truth, if you know
Speaker 3: most medical providers, they're very non judgmental. They're like, hey,
Speaker 3: we can tell you some things you can do, but
Speaker 3: we're just grateful that you show up because you can't.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't even build a relationship with your
Speaker 3: primary care doctor if you never show up. And so
Speaker 3: I found that survey really really interesting that we have
Speaker 3: all you know, we have much better access than we've had,
Speaker 3: although we always need more. And then people that could
Speaker 3: go don't want to go, right. What do you think
Speaker 3: you have? You been judged by your doctor?
Speaker 2: Not at all.
Speaker 1: He says, Look, you're handsome. My wife says, I look
Speaker 1: like Rinaldo. That's soccer star, you know, from Portugal or somewhere.
Speaker 1: My wife thinks I look like Ronaldo. I think I
Speaker 1: look like MESSI. That's a different thing. But I go
Speaker 1: to a doctor and they want to take my shirt
Speaker 1: and my pants down and kind of take pictures like
Speaker 1: Arnold Palmer, and so I don't have any problem with that.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad to know that, really, because you've had
Speaker 3: some people do some extraordinary things to save your life,
Speaker 3: and we're grateful for that. But I will say, if
Speaker 3: if that's how you feel, you can go to a
Speaker 3: different doctor. Always ask that question. But more importantly, you
Speaker 3: need to find somebody because a lot of them now
Speaker 3: know that's how a lot of us feel, and they
Speaker 3: won't make you feel like judgment. The reasons that you
Speaker 3: came here, yeah, are you know are so important that
Speaker 3: it overrides you coming and getting this care. I will
Speaker 3: say that because I know a really good number of
Speaker 3: physicians that I would send anyone to, and there is
Speaker 3: no judgment.
Speaker 2: Liz Bonus, you're the best. Once again.
Speaker 1: When I got off there after three, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to the death Clock app and find out how
Speaker 1: much more time I have.
Speaker 2: Then I'll just let it rip at some point.
Speaker 1: But Liz Bonus, Health Reporter Local twelve, once again, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And may
Speaker 1: God bless you and God bless America. Liz, thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 3: Back at you. Hope you live forever.
Speaker 1: I shall thank you, God bless America. If I get
Speaker 1: counseling a sand X, I'll be even better. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundreds WLW