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<v Speaker 1>Billy cunning in the Great American two weeks and today.

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<v Speaker 1>It all happens November the fifth, But until then, getting ready,

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<v Speaker 1>of course for the Bengals on Sunday, the Birds. The

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<v Speaker 1>Birds are in town. The Eagles, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals only a two and a half point favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the Ravens last night, they look impregnable. They look

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<v Speaker 1>like to imagine no line, unbelievable. But nonetheless, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>hope when we have Joe Burrow, there's always hope. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>you and I now is Liz Bonus, the health and

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<v Speaker 1>medical reporter from Local twelve, and Liz Bonus, welcome again

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bill Cunningham shown.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? I am great. Did you know that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>name for what happens when your team loses, like in

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<v Speaker 3>the day after you feel miserable?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to know that what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's called the letdown effect? And when you wouldn't surprise

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<v Speaker 3>me at all. Huh So what happens is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we all have this high hope going in and then

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<v Speaker 3>we're all like if we don't win, and it actually

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<v Speaker 3>is linked to a less productive Monday. Yes, and for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason. They say, sometimes you can manage it on

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<v Speaker 3>your own. But the cure part is actually gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>with other miserable people like you. You better to go

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<v Speaker 3>to work and complain.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm with Scott Sloan a lot because he's miserable

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<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can imagine the day after the election if

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wins, I can imagine Democrats and many others angry

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<v Speaker 1>as city, pissed off, whatever it might be. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, of Kamala Harris's wins, I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender and others gonna commit Harry Carey and suicide

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<v Speaker 1>and drive into a bridge abutment. So we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>your health the day or two after the election. We

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<v Speaker 1>need your Will you be available the day or two

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<v Speaker 1>after the election to hold my hand if things don't

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<v Speaker 1>go right?

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<v Speaker 3>I will. Actually I'm doing some stories on that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm really concerned about us being able to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, if someone in your life doesn't love who you

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<v Speaker 3>love for elections, this could be a really long month after.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's going to be awful. Talk about something I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I monitor you every day that I can, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have something called the death Clock app. Doctor Dodgers and

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<v Speaker 1>also Love Sleeping. Tell the American people about the death

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<v Speaker 1>clock app?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? All right? So I interviewed a gentleman who just

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<v Speaker 3>about three months ago, after twenty years of living with

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<v Speaker 3>a mental health illness which he said he did not

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<v Speaker 3>actually have, he decided he wanted to make some changes

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<v Speaker 3>in his life. And he began to look up like

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<v Speaker 3>what do I have to do to live longer? In

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing? And he realized that we have

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<v Speaker 3>some control, not all of it, over how long we live.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has developed something you can find on like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Google App Store and whatnot. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you go on it and you look under death Clock app,

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<v Speaker 3>you can call it up and you answer twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>questions about your health, your age, your history, a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit about you know, what you do to stay well

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<v Speaker 3>or not, and it will give you the predicted date

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<v Speaker 3>you will die.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a special like April the eighth, twenty ninety four,

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<v Speaker 1>so an actual date in the time you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to die.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it says you'll live to be like one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and six. Okay, oh, you can predict your death date.

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<v Speaker 3>This I had one of my colleagues go on it

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<v Speaker 3>because truthfully, I didn't know if I wanted to, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you eat, write, exercise, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you're going to die anyway, it can be

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<v Speaker 3>really discouraging. Get another influence. I mean, I mean my

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<v Speaker 3>habits now, because I'm like, what would I do with

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<v Speaker 3>that information? I can't run any more mild, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>eat any more vegetables. I can't, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was a little worried. But he went on and found

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<v Speaker 3>out he's going to live to be one hundred and six,

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<v Speaker 3>So really, well, there's hope. Gun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep telling it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about your weight, your metabolism, your blood pressure, all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, your genetics, and it gives you an approximate

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<v Speaker 1>date you're going to die. Would you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>when you're going to die? If somebody tapped in your

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder list? Bonus, you're in great shape, you look wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to you want to know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to die in twenty fifty seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to know that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's why I haven't done it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you, like, I kind of worry that it

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<v Speaker 3>will be a self fulfilling prophecy. If it says I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to be dead next week, you know, yeah, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, so I'm still thinking about it. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've had brave enough people that were brave enough go

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<v Speaker 3>on and do it, and it's fascinating. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>started reaching out to people for our story about longevity

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<v Speaker 3>and it's very interesting. There are things now everything from

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<v Speaker 3>hormones to lifestyle to even prevention medications. You know, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>a woman now can take demoxafin at high risk for

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<v Speaker 3>breast cancer. We've never had a breast cancer prevention pill

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<v Speaker 3>that can add a lot of years to your life.

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<v Speaker 3>So it really sort of sparks you to reach out

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<v Speaker 3>and ask questions. And I do love that idea of

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<v Speaker 3>it because we feel helpless, but we may not be.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's where we're going with that story. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>let you know when I get the drop dead date.

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<v Speaker 1>Though death clock app Tony Benders right now on his

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<v Speaker 1>phone trying to find out how long his hands to live.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to die within the next year, let

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<v Speaker 2>it rip.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondly, you did a segment I think it was last night,

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<v Speaker 1>about sleeping that somehow I have difficulty sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>I think many Americans do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have thoughts running around my head like a be

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<v Speaker 1>being an empty railroad box car. I think about what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. I worry about this. I worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes me two to three hours go to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>every night. I don't even try at about one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and then I try by three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I'm as sleep. I'm up at eight o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>away I go. So I think most Americans have trouble sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all these medications out there. There's all the CBD

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<v Speaker 1>out there. There's all the other pills and medicines or

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<v Speaker 1>any of them, legit, relaxium, et cetera. Should you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>should you not do it? Should you try pots, Should

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<v Speaker 1>you try hot milk? Should you have some chocolate, not

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<v Speaker 1>have chocolate? Should you exercise or not exercise? Should you

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<v Speaker 1>make love or not make love? It's like an aphrodisiac.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? Give me the answer to Liz Bonus?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? I think if I had all those answers,

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<v Speaker 3>I would not be here on Willie's Show. I would

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<v Speaker 3>be a millionaire somewhere, you know, like off with the eyelids.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are really good questions. And the thing that's so

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<v Speaker 3>interesting about that is that for some people, having sex

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<v Speaker 3>before you go to bed helps them fall asleep. For

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<v Speaker 3>some people it keeps you awake. For some people, exercise

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<v Speaker 3>late in the day keeps you awaken. For other people

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<v Speaker 3>that knocks you out. That's the problem. It's so individualized

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't know that there's one formula that fits all,

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<v Speaker 3>which is you know why I always have a job,

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<v Speaker 3>because it will always change and there's always something new.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will tell you this, it's the eighth. The

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<v Speaker 3>American Heart Association has eight habits of good health, you know, eating, riot, exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>watching your cholesterol, And just within the past year or so,

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<v Speaker 3>they added eight hours of sleep because they started to

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<v Speaker 3>see that if you did everything else but you did

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<v Speaker 3>not sleep, told that it took on your health was

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<v Speaker 3>really significant. It influenced blood pressure, it influenced weight, it

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<v Speaker 3>influenced stress level, and all of those things, of course

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<v Speaker 3>play a role in your heart disease risks. And now

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<v Speaker 3>we're the reason I was doing a story is now

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<v Speaker 3>we're also finding those habits may play a role in

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<v Speaker 3>your cancer risks, as well, so you're like, whoa, You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I should at least get all those, and most of

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<v Speaker 3>us get most of them except the sleep thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it's because we're praised to

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<v Speaker 3>not sleep. Ask somebody asked that question to Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>a while back, and he said he sleeps like four

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<v Speaker 3>to six hours a night, doesn't need anymore. And so

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, you could be superhuman. You can be president.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we should be praised for resting, we

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<v Speaker 3>should be praised for relaxing, We should be praised for snoozing,

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<v Speaker 3>and we aren't. We're just not that kind of a society.

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<v Speaker 3>You know in places like Japan and that they have

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<v Speaker 3>nap rooms and map tents in your office, you can

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<v Speaker 3>climb into them and take what do they call like

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<v Speaker 3>that crash nap. Yeah, I think that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't do the twenty minute thing because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like you, I lay in bed saut the national bet

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know which comes first, like me trying

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<v Speaker 3>to solve it or the national debt. It's a cycle

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<v Speaker 3>and I can knock get out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>How good is a nap? How good is a nap?

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<v Speaker 1>Like at three four o'clock in the afternoon, because many

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<v Speaker 1>European cultures it's almost required they shut their businesses down

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours so the owner and the employees can

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<v Speaker 1>take a nap or chill out. Is that as good

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<v Speaker 1>as sleeping, Say you sleep five or six hours and

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<v Speaker 1>then you rest, or you go to nap about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour in the afternoon. Is that the same as sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>seven or eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>The sleep experts that I have talked to have said

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<v Speaker 3>power naps are really good, like twenty or thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>but two hour naps are not because they're disruptive to

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<v Speaker 3>that cycle. And the minimum number of hours is about

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<v Speaker 3>five before you see like stroke wristks go up. Even

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<v Speaker 3>getting six or seven is better, and eight is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with the short sleep in the nap is

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a cycle of sleep and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever get into that deep sleep, then you don't experience

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they say, like I don't dream and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get into that really deep sleep, you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>some of the healing benefits from it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that it's about like five or six hours in

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<v Speaker 3>the nap. I think it's how long does it take

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<v Speaker 3>you to get into that real snooze thing where you're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of out of it and dead to the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of different for everyone, but usually at

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<v Speaker 3>least seven hours a night it takes to get that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if you can make up with

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<v Speaker 3>that with napping. I know, if I nap a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>I almost wake up feeling worse, like hw you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm kind of like, you go till you drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I'm saying that's a good thing, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing the story because it is a significant health

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<v Speaker 3>habit that most of us simply don't do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you talk to anyone busy, it's not always on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that's our lifestyle now and it's what we've created,

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<v Speaker 3>which if we had that other culture of snoozing more,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Can I tell you a constant dream that

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<v Speaker 1>I have and you can interpret my dream? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. It happened this morning about two o'clock, two thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at bright Bart, I'm over at dread state

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. And I finally go to bed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, and I had this terrible dream, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a recurring nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I have this terrible sense that I'm about to die

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm falling, but I never hit the ground

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<v Speaker 1>at someone breaking into the door. I got my AR fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>got this and that. But I can never Actually, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>always fear what's going to happen, but it never occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, and if I finally had this recurring

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<v Speaker 1>dream that I'm about to be killed or murdered and

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm falling and I hit the ground, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to die. But I always wake up many

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<v Speaker 1>times in fear, like I'm looking around the room, where

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<v Speaker 1>is that guy who's got the knife who's just plunging

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<v Speaker 1>into my heart? I have this constant dream that I'm falling,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never hit the ground. Can you interpret that

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's a very interesting dream. Now, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>dream expert, but I will tell you that, having asked

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<v Speaker 3>a few questions for health stories, I would tell you that.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that dreams are things that you are like

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<v Speaker 3>fleeting thoughts in the day and you don't have time

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<v Speaker 3>to process them, and they process in your dreams. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell you two things. One is you're not

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<v Speaker 3>feeling real safe these days, and two you're probably overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 3>in some aspect of life because it's recurring, yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>it keeps. It's like the pile on. So you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to like start, you know, barring the door

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've done that. I've done that. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>I have my windows are all plug correctly, the doors

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<v Speaker 1>of double locks. The bedroom door's got a padlock on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have weapons which I keep inside of a box

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't want to get up half a sleeve,

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<v Speaker 1>then and then I had to put a numeric code

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<v Speaker 1>time to get to the weapons because the guys on

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<v Speaker 1>top of me plunging a dagger into my heart and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's some iHeart media executive doing it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I have this. I have the recurring dream. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get to my three point fifty seven. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>guy kills me before I get there. But I'm not dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I have time to get up to fight him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't fight him. I can't get to my box.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get to the fingerprint, I can't get to

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<v Speaker 1>then americal code, and the guy stands me again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not lying there in blood and I can't find

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<v Speaker 1>my weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I gonna do? Liz?

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<v Speaker 1>What am I gonna do? I have a recurring dream.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an iHeart media executive stabbing me in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? How need help?

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<v Speaker 3>One of two things? Man. I just keep my three

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<v Speaker 3>fifty seven loaded by the bed, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought I got out, I thought, but what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>But someone like a penny or or the kids or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that because I'm half awake

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<v Speaker 1>half asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I need help, and I need it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, some would say there's a different kind of help

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<v Speaker 3>you need if that's really the case, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and we might need to like exploit that in therapy somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a wonderful sentence that I've learned. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a nutritionist and a health reporter, but that's beyond

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<v Speaker 3>my scope of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should go to stant next and see the

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<v Speaker 1>counseling department.

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<v Speaker 3>A great counselor absolutelye No.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, lastly, you have something that Tony Benner's interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctor dodgers Tony Hayes go to the doctor. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to go. I go to doctors all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my heart, I got my I got my

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<v Speaker 1>practological exam, I got my Euro Eurological. I got my

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<v Speaker 1>eye exam coming up. I got cholesterol test. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this group mdv IP, I doal. But Tony refuses to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a doctor for anything. His heart's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>Hes in a bib movement in about three weeks. And

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's in trouble talk about men, especially that Dodge doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>I need help. Go ahead, Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, poor Tony, he you know we can we can

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<v Speaker 3>work on this. I know lots of good people, but

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<v Speaker 3>actually a survey was just released. My agency put this out,

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<v Speaker 3>and they actually found that at least one in four

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<v Speaker 3>of us have not been to a doctor in years,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have named them doctor dodgers. And so of

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<v Speaker 3>course your logical thing is, well, why, And there's a

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<v Speaker 3>number of reasons, but the number one and two are

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<v Speaker 3>my doctor either retired or I moved, so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know like who's taking new patients. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>others and I actually really love this one because I

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<v Speaker 3>believe it's true. Pretty much said they had a bad experience,

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<v Speaker 3>or they felt judged when they went to the doctors,

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<v Speaker 3>or they didn't like the idea that they were going

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<v Speaker 3>to be criticized or told they weren't good enough. When

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<v Speaker 3>I have to tell you in truth, if you know

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<v Speaker 3>most medical providers, they're very non judgmental. They're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we can tell you some things you can do, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're just grateful that you show up because you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can't even build a relationship with your

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<v Speaker 3>I found that survey really really interesting that we have

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<v Speaker 3>all you know, we have much better access than we've had,

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<v Speaker 3>although we always need more. And then people that could

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<v Speaker 3>go don't want to go, right. What do you think

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<v Speaker 3>you have? You been judged by your doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Look, you're handsome. My wife says, I look

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<v Speaker 1>like Rinaldo. That's soccer star, you know, from Portugal or somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife thinks I look like Ronaldo. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>look like MESSI. That's a different thing. But I go

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<v Speaker 1>to a doctor and they want to take my shirt

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<v Speaker 1>and my pants down and kind of take pictures like

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold Palmer, and so I don't have any problem with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really glad to know that, really, because you've had

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<v Speaker 3>some people do some extraordinary things to save your life,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're grateful for that. But I will say, if

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<v Speaker 3>if that's how you feel, you can go to a

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<v Speaker 3>different doctor. Always ask that question. But more importantly, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to find somebody because a lot of them now

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<v Speaker 3>know that's how a lot of us feel, and they

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<v Speaker 3>won't make you feel like judgment. The reasons that you

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<v Speaker 3>came here, yeah, are you know are so important that

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<v Speaker 3>it overrides you coming and getting this care. I will

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<v Speaker 3>say that because I know a really good number of

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<v Speaker 3>physicians that I would send anyone to, and there is

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<v Speaker 3>no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz Bonus, you're the best. Once again.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got off there after three, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the death Clock app and find out how

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<v Speaker 1>much more time I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'll just let it rip at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But Liz Bonus, Health Reporter Local twelve, once again, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And may

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you and God bless America. Liz, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Back at you. Hope you live forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I shall thank you, God bless America. If I get

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<v Speaker 1>counseling a sand X, I'll be even better. Bill Cunningham,

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