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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Jewish History Uncensored with Mark Shapiro. This is

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<v Speaker 1>season sixteenth, episode thirty four.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna move quicker today, more quickly because one of

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<v Speaker 2>the responds that we'll be seeing is like ten pages.

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<v Speaker 2>But before you go to that, I have interesting things

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<v Speaker 2>to show you. I want to show you some videos. First.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. The first thing I want to show you

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<v Speaker 2>is just because we sort of mentioned it before, something

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<v Speaker 2>related to it. My son sent it to me about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds from his yeshiva. I think you'll find it

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<v Speaker 2>interesting if you don't have children in yeshiva there what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing and how they're having dobbining. And you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>with the plastic and you'll see one of the rushi

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<v Speaker 2>yeshiva how he's like locked in this box. But the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I'm showing you is not that is I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to see the dobbining. This is a roachhotish dauvining.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the sort of thing that when I went

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<v Speaker 2>to yeshiva, never in a million years would you have this.

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<v Speaker 2>And with a guitar and this and that and varron listency,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would have gone and been very upset

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<v Speaker 2>to see what I'm gonna show you now, but it

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<v Speaker 2>shows you how there's been there's different types of yeshivas.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though this is a yeshiva in the old city,

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<v Speaker 2>a right where they do I mean, they do have

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<v Speaker 2>a gamar and everything. But I want to show you

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<v Speaker 2>this first. This is the first video I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>show you, So pay attention to this. So I I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's quite interesting that. I mean, that's a rushmotostavy

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<v Speaker 2>with a guitar. As I said, when I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a shiva, no one in a million years would have

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<v Speaker 2>thought that that's considered appropriate. I want to show you

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<v Speaker 2>now another video because I mentioned actually before I get

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<v Speaker 2>to the videos. Before I get the videos, I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the this morning to the class last week we spoke.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot to mention the thing that he's most known for.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of you probably know this. There you go, the tevos.

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<v Speaker 2>This is everyone has this book, especial the Ordain, So

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<v Speaker 2>every every time you need to know a strange abbreviation,

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<v Speaker 2>you pull it up here. He's also known because he's

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<v Speaker 2>the editor of this work. Okay, I got a shima.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone's interested in serious investigation of pesa, the SADR has

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the h got a shlima and you see, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>right on the very first page it tells you Nazi.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh, okay, two more things I want to show

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<v Speaker 2>you actually won here. Let me pull up the screens,

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<v Speaker 2>get my screens here for you. Okay. In terms of videos,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to show you a lot of videos. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing, I think you'll find it interesting because I

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<v Speaker 2>also mentioned this, Uh, there's if you're looking for something

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, there's this guy, Peter Santanello. He goes all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world and he uh, he just exposes his people.

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<v Speaker 2>You see this, hundreds thousands of views to all different

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<v Speaker 2>cultures in Ukraine, Pakistan. He did about thirteen sessions with

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<v Speaker 2>the residiing and it's really very interesting and if you

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<v Speaker 2>read the comments, it's unbelievable all the positive the kinish

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<v Speaker 2>asham that Peter is making because all these people are anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew anything about the hussd well. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we're bad things and uh, but what I found significant

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<v Speaker 2>is that he actually goes to a Friday night dinner

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<v Speaker 2>and the family says that you know, it took it.

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<v Speaker 2>We had it was it was complicated. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>get a permission from the rabbi to rabbis, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they say, to let us film this so he so

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<v Speaker 2>here you can watch the video. They haven't a camera

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<v Speaker 2>men filming it on Shabis I mentioned, which I find astounding,

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<v Speaker 2>although we've had other examples. There was I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was made visions or bells. Uh, they put a camera

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<v Speaker 2>in there. I don't know if it was actually individuals

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<v Speaker 2>or not, just a camera for young tef dobvining. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it's okay to video, UH have a videographer there

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<v Speaker 2>on shabist. The next time your son has a bar

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<v Speaker 2>of mist on shabis, you get a videographer. Also. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they make a distinction, they say, in this case, the

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<v Speaker 2>Peter is not doing it for the Jssetu. He's doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for his viewers. So they're not benefiting. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe because it's such a Kiddish asham. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is here you have a has sceenic family and

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<v Speaker 2>you have a whole non Jewish film crew in there

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<v Speaker 2>filming them Friday night. And the other thing I want

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<v Speaker 2>to show you is I spoke about the non Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>songs used for Jewish that that are made Jewish. And

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<v Speaker 2>we know that we know Mordeham and David. We know

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<v Speaker 2>classic ones. I mentioned one I didn't now here. I

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<v Speaker 2>have it in front of me. I wrote about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a famous Hassienic song where which is taken from

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<v Speaker 2>a love song, the original love song. It says in

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<v Speaker 2>German or original German. Uh, it goes uh Forrest Forrest,

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<v Speaker 2>how large are you rosa Rosa? How distant or are

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<v Speaker 2>you volved? The gros bistou rosa Rosa? He vit this too,

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes on and about. It's all about Rosa

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<v Speaker 2>the collar for Rebby. This is famous CASEIDI know this.

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<v Speaker 2>He turned this love song into rogo just song. So

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<v Speaker 2>instead of uh so so you sing about gous gouss

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<v Speaker 2>how far are you? And instead of Rosa Rosa, how

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<v Speaker 2>distant are you? It's Squeena Screena. We vite this du

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<v Speaker 2>and this is this is well known amount hasidim uh

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<v Speaker 2>this song. But after hearing this, uh Rabbi Ari Inkin

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<v Speaker 2>sent me the following. This is an Ottoman military song.

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<v Speaker 2>I I did not know this at all, but pay attention,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll recognize this now. I don't know where this comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it comes through Hungary because that was under Automan control.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's from erisis Throl. Wait, we got it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a smarty tune. I know nothing. If anyone knows

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<v Speaker 2>about this, let me know. I think I already. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>among the Haarai team, they often have no clue about solos,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I mentioned. We talked about the Simon and Garfunk.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I even showed you on the Idea show you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of their videos, their tor videos, beginners phollows.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll play it again for those who haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a ser by Reliao Mada, who's actually one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people in my book. He wrote to me.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned him earlier on This is how it begins

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<v Speaker 2>the seer on Holomaid. You know, is is it everything

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do? Know about? Because callam o aid

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<v Speaker 2>what's permissible and what's not? The Haadi will go and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know, many of them Israelis especially, they have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue what this tune is that starts the share.

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<v Speaker 2>I dare say that most of you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You might say it's a little crazy, put the tow

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<v Speaker 2>with that, but then what can I say? Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 2>oh we have home this I said to you, ask

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<v Speaker 2>us and a man get bar. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to I promise believe that I'll get to uh the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I want to show you about Yako. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to show you one more thing before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 2>dell I said last quest, I was talking about Madrid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to show you something I think you

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<v Speaker 2>also find very interesting. What can you eat in Madrid

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<v Speaker 2>that we can't eat in America. So I walk into

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<v Speaker 2>the the the butcher shop there in Madrid, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a sign on the wall that on the butcher shop

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<v Speaker 2>that hold on they get it for you. That the

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<v Speaker 2>the the meat there they have. It's done nicoor and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a from Eric to Straus. So what is nicor

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<v Speaker 2>nkor actually has? There's an English word for it. The

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<v Speaker 2>English word is called porche. This is a word in

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<v Speaker 2>the English language, but it only means Jewish thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>means to make a soldered animal ceremonial clean by removal

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<v Speaker 2>of the forbidden fat, et cetera. This goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth century in England. You can look up the dictionary.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually a real word, a scrabble word. You

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<v Speaker 2>can use this porche, but it only means this Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>thing that so people assume that you can't eat the

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<v Speaker 2>hind quarters. I don't know much about beef, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of you, but I know for example, he got you

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<v Speaker 2>have the tender wine, the sirle wine, the top sir wine,

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<v Speaker 2>and people assume you can't eat it. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>You can eat it, but you have to remove the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remove the forbidden fats. Now in America

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<v Speaker 2>we generally don't do that, although and then some people

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<v Speaker 2>actually think it's a min hub not to it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you can read Rabby Zibatowsky's article here. It's today

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<v Speaker 2>it's done. You can get the hind quarters and Ergi

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<v Speaker 2>sterol you. Ramosha has a chew on it, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, And when he was in Europe they had it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that people don't do it because it's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>and it's easy just to sell it to the non Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ramosha is clearing his chuva. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat it, you can eat it. And as I said

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<v Speaker 2>to Robert Newton, Israel al Gaucho I had it so

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<v Speaker 2>when I was there. So it used to be you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get it in America you'd have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Madrid or Israel. But I was just looking before I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Kabad site. It says, technically, for le mignona's's kosher

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<v Speaker 2>is any the other cut of meat. And it explains

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<v Speaker 2>though that it's nikoor. Is not so simple, But he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe most waterhouses sell the hind quarters of the

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<v Speaker 2>kettleton non kosher butchers. But it does exist, and actually

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<v Speaker 2>it is now. It's a new trend. I know of

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<v Speaker 2>two places, at least two. So for example, there's one

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<v Speaker 2>place in the New York area called Bistra Kosher, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can get all the all the good stuff. Can't

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of that thing, all good stuff you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Who does it? His name is avidad Avi don Elkin.

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<v Speaker 2>He teaches is that yu it's under them, and he

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<v Speaker 2>also is on the basin of Elizabeth and he writes

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<v Speaker 2>get in there. And then there's another place. Hey, it's expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what this charges the beef tender wine. It's expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's also a place in Philadelphia called King of

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<v Speaker 2>phil A. It's under here. Who this is who it's under?

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<v Speaker 2>His son is Eljanda, and he's a rabbi in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>His father's on the basin of Jerusalem, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>this is a Habad guy. That's a Habad name. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can read all about on the website about uh

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<v Speaker 2>and you can order if you're interested, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>real meek person and you want to get your tenderloin

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<v Speaker 2>or sirloin there. It is the final thing I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do before we begin the ship it to you. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>the final thing I want to do is uh. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to get rid of this is I. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you I would share something with you that I think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find of interest about Yakov and Leah. We're speaking

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<v Speaker 2>a good deal about it. So here here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>How is it? The question is how is it that

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<v Speaker 2>Yakov didn't know who was with them on the wedding night? Already,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Josefast mentions that he was he was drunk. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an article that appeared a number of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago in this journal. It's actually an academic journal called

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<v Speaker 2>Vitas Testamental. But it it's it's in line with we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see them afore sham in a second. But he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to argue, and he does things I never thought of before.

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<v Speaker 2>That there's actually you can perhaps derive proofs that that

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<v Speaker 2>was the case from the tsukim itself. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>love one says, well when he wakes up, when you

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<v Speaker 2>we make habeira to give the younger uh before the older.

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<v Speaker 2>you have habeira and that's era. And that's also a

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<v Speaker 2>similar case. It's a case of sexual relations where person

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here and further and that you won't

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<v Speaker 2>find any of the traditional commentaries. But then he starts

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<v Speaker 2>all his people and made a mishta. What is a mishta? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>him drunk. Now, what is a misterie? If you look

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<v Speaker 3>With with Lote in the commentary of the store note

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<v Speaker 3>in your test, Gimmo, it says, what is a mistaasuda ayayan?

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<v Speaker 2>That the definition of mishta means with wine, So all

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<v Speaker 2>these things, it's possible that that could be the shot

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a misstep, and maybe y'all called everything

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't so uh clear, perhaps because I shot. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what's going on there. One final comment

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<v Speaker 2>about mishta before we begin. In this safer which I

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<v Speaker 2>we were speaking about already a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>what I told you. He has a whole for a summerhast.

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<v Speaker 2>He has some very interesting insights in Then in volume

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine, he asks a very interesting question, why on

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<v Speaker 2>Porim do we have a mishta a feast and why

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<v Speaker 2>on Khonikah did they did the Razo make a decreejdo

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<v Speaker 2>so hallo and not to have a misstep. People have

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<v Speaker 2>it was only with a mishtah with Yayan and Mordechai

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<v Speaker 2>and Esther established it this way because that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>And he very interesting how he speaks about how a mishta,

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<v Speaker 2>how how our feelings of joy were transferred to to

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<v Speaker 2>prayer and mitzvah as opposed to mishta. It's like the

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<v Speaker 2>the the the the breast breast lovers saying, uh, simple

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<v Speaker 2>mits it's a great mitsa to bea And what did

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<v Speaker 2>the Revelvo solo Atrix say? Not mitzvah, simp but simply mitzvah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where we feel great joy when we're in a mitzvah,

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<v Speaker 2>not that it's a great mitsvah to be enjoyed. Okay, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>let us now go on. We are continuing in the

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<v Speaker 2>and we are returning now to a respond to Ramanasha Klin.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get a picture of him again, because this

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<v Speaker 2>will be the last time we see Revmanasha Klin in

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<v Speaker 2>our chew vote. Here he is. We've spoken a good

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<v Speaker 2>deal about him. This chow va, which we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 2>for it is not included in his missionat I think

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<v Speaker 2>I checked online. There's no mention of roof cook in

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<v Speaker 2>Ramanasha Clin's faru and he just he mentions masata of

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<v Speaker 2>cook when he quotes Romband. You won't mention cook. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the reason we spoke about Ramanashaklin. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you how impressed I am what almdon unbelieve. And they

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<v Speaker 2>also said that there's the Yeshivah circles and is not

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<v Speaker 2>very impressed. And in Yeshivah circles they would make a

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<v Speaker 2>joke that instead of calling it mission has shana halathaut

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<v Speaker 2>because they thought that so many of his rulings were

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<v Speaker 2>contrary to what they should be mashana meaning change. Incidentally,

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<v Speaker 2>if you google, you'll see pretty unbelievably, I guess slips

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<v Speaker 2>to the pen you'll find Daniel Sperber calls b Barry Levy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they were thinking that they wrote it,

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<v Speaker 2>but that you'll see in their books. But the phrase

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<v Speaker 2>mission and mashana goes all the way back to Ramera

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<v Speaker 2>a Bolafia of Toledom. In his attack against the Rumbomb,

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<v Speaker 2>he says as follows, he refers to the mission tura

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, uh amy odeya at Ohra, which means

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the mission of Tara should be

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<v Speaker 2>referred to as Mishana Tara because he rejects a lot

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<v Speaker 2>which the Rumbam wrote or mission of Tara. So you

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<v Speaker 2>see this gibe where this jab you know, is it

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<v Speaker 2>mission or is it Mishana goes all the way back

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<v Speaker 2>to one of the great reshow memes, Ramera Baia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so what is uh he say here in in this

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<v Speaker 2>responded to me from nineteen eighty seven when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in college. You know, I have to say that when

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the back at all these letters, uh

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<v Speaker 2>how uh it's amazing I was. And this is just

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<v Speaker 2>the scholar the Toro letters, I have a whole I

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<v Speaker 2>can publish another behind of just academic letters. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have too letters and additional Toro letters which were included.

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<v Speaker 2>I really I spent a lot of time I'm writing

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<v Speaker 2>these letters. This goes back to when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Off my son to here. But let me give you

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<v Speaker 2>an introduction here because there's something you need to know

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<v Speaker 2>to appreciate this, and that's we all like to say

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<v Speaker 2>that our people like to say that Judaism is different

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<v Speaker 2>than Christianity, because Christianity has this concept here you see

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<v Speaker 2>it here outside the church, there is no salvation. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was a expressed by many Catholic teachers. You have

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<v Speaker 2>many Protestants who say that today what it means is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you don't accept Jesus, you can't be saved,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't go to Heaven, whatever you want to put

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<v Speaker 2>that as. And it's often portrayed that, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different than the non Jews, and that one much more

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<v Speaker 2>tolerant and open minded in that respect. And that's usually

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<v Speaker 2>given and you'll see it all these different gatherings. People

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually, I don't know, can you have a falsism.

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic Church. It is. You might find certain evangelicals who

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<v Speaker 2>have this idea, but today the church does not say that.

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<v Speaker 2>What they say is that everyone you can only be

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<v Speaker 2>the church. That is, someone who has good intentions and

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<v Speaker 2>a good person will reach Heaven. Okay, we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be concerned about their doctrine, but just so you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know that that's just so if you're interested

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not exactly what the church holds, say the

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<v Speaker 2>counsel Church, I shall say, and most Protestants as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about Jews. Well, it's not so simple. Either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in Hesm chapter eight. It says, koha makabo cheva mitzmos.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone want to talking to Nanjou who accepts the seven

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<v Speaker 2>the Hasidim, the amaban. He has to share in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to come the who and what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Shiakaboo son that as he accepts these mitzmos the son

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<v Speaker 2>and does them many shatsiva the han hakotas ad mosher

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<v Speaker 2>abenu shabe noahki. But only if the nanjou does these

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<v Speaker 2>cheva Mitzo's not because he's a good person or just

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<v Speaker 2>God commanded this in the Torah and told Mosher Abu

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<v Speaker 2>that non Jews are obligated in this plays. But if

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<v Speaker 2>he did it simply because he concluded natural wall or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he concluded this is a good way to live, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty much every anjou that's they're not doing it

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Torah. They're not Noah hides. You only

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<v Speaker 2>just do it because if you think it's the proper

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<v Speaker 2>way to live, ain's a ghirtoshev. This person is not

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<v Speaker 2>regarded as a ghirtoshev. The aosia almost Ohm is not

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<v Speaker 2>regarded as one of the hasio most oha volo, and

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<v Speaker 2>is not even regarded as a hawkham one of the

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<v Speaker 2>wise men, meaning that he has no share in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to come. This is a bit of a shocking

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<v Speaker 2>passage for people who don't know, because it basically you

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<v Speaker 2>have here the Rambam saying the exact parallel to what

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<v Speaker 2>church there is no salvation, pretty much the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the subject incidentally, of an article, a famous

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<v Speaker 2>article by the way, Stephen Schwartzchild, do Noah Heights have

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<v Speaker 2>to believe in revelation? He says, it's a passage in

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<v Speaker 2>disputeen Mimonodese, Spinoza, Mendelssohn and Herman Cohen. What's the story

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<v Speaker 2>with Mendelssohn. Mendelssohn. It's because Mendelssohn was so upset with

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<v Speaker 2>this passage that he wrote through Yakavenden. He said, this

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<v Speaker 2>basically upholds what the Rumbum says the kussubmission on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know where the Ramam gets this. He thinks

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<v Speaker 2>it's his own idea, although he thinks it makes sense. However,

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<v Speaker 2>if we take us back to the passage here, you

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<v Speaker 2>something different that in the the the the version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Yemonites, it doesn't. It says that this person who

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<v Speaker 2>just observes themidst us because it makes sense is not

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<v Speaker 2>but the other version is rather he is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the wise men. He's not as olam, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>wise man of the of the nations. And that's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a very good thing to be a wise man. For

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<v Speaker 2>the rambamb mob, what is better being a hasid or

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<v Speaker 2>being a hakam? You have to look at hoks deeos

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<v Speaker 2>the ram bam. Basically, you want to be a haham. Occasionally,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can go beyond and then be a hasid,

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<v Speaker 2>he quotes here Themara Miguilla. If someone says some hajma,

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<v Speaker 2>you say so hajma, you're called a hakam. Is So

407
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<v Speaker 2>presumably if you figured out that you should observe Tomrah

408
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<v Speaker 2>or observe the chev Mitzvos on your own, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be a hakkam. And then they cite what they think

410
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<v Speaker 2>is the source for this, where it's called Mishnas Rebels.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the midrash which says that who is one of

412
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<v Speaker 2>the people who was regarded as Osidio Mosoa. It's if

413
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<v Speaker 2>you do it because God commanded this to Noah. But

414
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<v Speaker 2>if you do it, then say I heard it from

415
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<v Speaker 2>someone else, You only get your scar in this world,

416
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<v Speaker 2>So that could the source not so important at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So I about Nasha Klein, as I said, he's a

418
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<v Speaker 2>great scholar, and there's all sorts of great stuff in

419
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<v Speaker 2>his writings, but there's a lot of stuff that, let

420
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<v Speaker 2>me just say that if you're not just in the

421
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<v Speaker 2>Haaradi world because they've had their big issues with him,

422
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<v Speaker 2>but certainly in the modern northnot the world, you just

423
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<v Speaker 2>can't accept it. Just some stuff which are far out.

424
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<v Speaker 2>I've spoke about this, views of women, views of non Jews,

425
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>views of converts. There's a lot of extreme stuff in

426
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<v Speaker 2>his writings, which is why in the Yeshiva world they

427
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<v Speaker 2>came up with this expression mashanahafolt, but which I would

428
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<v Speaker 2>never say, because look, he's entitled his opinion even if

429
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<v Speaker 2>I feel that we don't accept it. And as I said,

430
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<v Speaker 2>the learning in his stuff in his writing, and he's

431
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<v Speaker 2>also he survived the Holocaust when it comes to the

432
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<v Speaker 2>non Jews. We're going to see next week with the Kleusenberger.

433
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<v Speaker 2>You have to sort of, I think, give some leeway

434
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<v Speaker 2>for that. And in terms of the women's issue, this

435
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<v Speaker 2>really is a reflection of pre Who or Hungary. I

436
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<v Speaker 2>think I one day I'll publish my article on him.

437
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<v Speaker 2>There's so much interesting stuff in him, and you get

438
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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable cool is in him. He thinks that a lot

439
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<v Speaker 2>of these clumras come from the Balichuva. He doesn't like.

440
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't like bally Chuba so much, but he blames

441
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<v Speaker 2>the Balichuva and the rabbis who are trying to work

442
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>with the Balichuva. They make things too difficult in many places.

443
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<v Speaker 2>He's he's a big may kill. And he doesn't like

444
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<v Speaker 2>the new Orthodoxy that has popped up after the war,

445
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 2>because he says, whoever heard of this in Europe? So

446
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to say about Ramanasha clients someone someone

447
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>could really do a whole doctor par dissipation on him.

448
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But one of the things that is troubling at is

449
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<v Speaker 2>to me is that throughout his writings he's always saying

450
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<v Speaker 2>that every non Jew basically has no share in the

451
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 2>world to come there. It's why because the Rumbum he goes,

452
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<v Speaker 2>there's no non Jews who ever observed misvolt because they

453
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<v Speaker 2>were commanded, and the Rombam says, therefore you have no

454
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<v Speaker 2>share in the world to come. So basically they're overshine.

455
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>The whole world is for shine. It's who wants to

456
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<v Speaker 2>go through life when every single person's in Russia and

457
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<v Speaker 2>you can't deal with pious people who are not of

458
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<v Speaker 2>your religion, because we all know they're pious people who

459
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>are of a different religion. They don't have the complete truth,

460
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>but they have certain truths. And but there's Sara Minasha

461
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 2>has says. Some of the stuff he says is really

462
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<v Speaker 2>really extreme. Okay, so why did I write to him?

463
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 2>I wrote him because he's always citing this ram bum,

464
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<v Speaker 2>and I say, why are you citing this ram bum?

465
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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty clear. I said that this is not the

466
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<v Speaker 2>correct yours. The correct Yrsa is Ella Merha Mayhem, not

467
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 2>the Loch Mayhem. And I cite the m Andite text.

468
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>And the Ammonites have excellent gear. So they're the best

469
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<v Speaker 2>of all the gearsas the Rama for them was the authority.

470
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<v Speaker 2>And generally you look in the m and I text.

471
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<v Speaker 2>The gearsa in everything is they were very careful on it,

472
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<v Speaker 2>and uh they just copied it without making changes. No.

473
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<v Speaker 2>In in the Ashcanas, for instance, the Ashkenazic rabbis, they

474
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<v Speaker 2>would put their comments on the side. They would put

475
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes change the text. They change the text so often

476
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<v Speaker 2>there Beeno tom had to creat ram saying if you

477
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<v Speaker 2>change the actual text as opposed to putting on the side,

478
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>you're in haram. But not everyone listened to uh Rabeno

479
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<v Speaker 2>tom so the m Andite text and also Maramalashkar, and

480
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 2>there's other sources that have this different uh gearso so

481
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<v Speaker 2>and I cited the the source that in the missis

482
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<v Speaker 2>sort of the So he begins as follows. He says

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<v Speaker 2>to me, I want to make a comment to you

484
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<v Speaker 2>that it's not our way to say that this text

485
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<v Speaker 2>is a mistake. That's what I said. I said, it's

486
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<v Speaker 2>a mistake. Perhaps I shouldn't have said that, but I

487
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>said that, he says, because who we don't have prophecy,

488
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>who can say that it's a mistake. What I should

489
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<v Speaker 2>have said is it appears much more likely if I'm

490
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<v Speaker 2>not mistaken or supports this Ranashaklin's text, but all the

491
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<v Speaker 2>other scholars and neveryone assumes that it's not correct. And

492
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>he says that what you should say is there's another

493
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<v Speaker 2>version of it. Still he never then he never grants it.

494
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So then I'm from Nasha Khin. I expect him to say, though,

495
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 2>why does he make such a big deal about this

496
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<v Speaker 2>text that he has when we have all sorts of

497
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<v Speaker 2>so many other texts that seem to make a lot

498
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<v Speaker 2>more sense. Look is Aristotle, and your Alma writes about

499
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<v Speaker 2>Aristotle that he he didn't know Tora, but he reached

500
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<v Speaker 2>the great heights and understanding. Gonna say that he's just

501
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>another Russia. It doesn't really make sense. We'll see, Mouzeu

502
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>says in a minute. And then he said, and I

503
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<v Speaker 2>sent him of Cook. Roff Cook has a letter. It's

504
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<v Speaker 2>an egosurf Cook volume one, page ninety nine, where of

505
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Cook says that of course the correct year is Ellen

506
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Mhem and Roff Cook develops the idea that a Haham

507
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 2>is greater than a hussed and that when we say

508
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<v Speaker 2>that a Hassili almost olam have a share in the

509
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 2>world to come, that's that's the lower level because the Hajamim.

510
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 2>They are able intellectually to figure out on their own

511
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<v Speaker 2>the best way to live the hasidi almost and they

512
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<v Speaker 2>only do it because they're told. It's what comp would

513
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<v Speaker 2>call heteronomy, whereas the other is it's autonomy. They's on

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<v Speaker 2>their own figure it out that this is the right

515
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>way to live. It shows that they've reached an amazing height.

516
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<v Speaker 2>It's like we say about avre Leavinu that he did

517
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<v Speaker 2>certain mitzhos. He was able to figure this out. It

518
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<v Speaker 2>shows an incredible uh development of whether he because we

519
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>usually assume he figured it out on his own, he

520
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't told through then on his own he understood that

521
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the way to fulfill God's will, even though he

522
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>wasn't commanded. And the rough cook says that that these

523
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 2>people who were able to figure out on their own,

524
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>for example, that you shouldn't kill and you shouldn't steal,

525
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that's on a higher level than those who just accepted

526
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>this because this is what God says to do. And

527
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>by the way, the Rumba himself says this, the Rumbum

528
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>says that that when he has a problem here, because

529
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<v Speaker 2>there's one place where the sage just say you're not

530
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to say that you're supposed to say, for example,

531
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>about certain sins. He says, I want to do it,

532
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 2>but a terris says I can't. It's like I'm not

533
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 2>supposed to say I hate kosher food. You're supposed say no,

534
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 2>not coacher food. No, not kosher food tastes good. It's

535
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 2>just that we're commanded not to. On the other hand,

536
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<v Speaker 2>the rum says that what doesn't this contradict what you're

537
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<v Speaker 2>gonna say? Uh, I mean that, you know, I wish

538
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<v Speaker 2>I could kill this person, but uh, you know, I'm

539
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to because of the trus says not to,

540
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 2>or I really wanna, you know, commit adultery, even I'm

541
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>not going to because the Taurus says, or rape this person.

542
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>The rambum distinguishes between like natural laws, which you would

543
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<v Speaker 2>know even without the toe, if you would say that

544
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I really want to kill, where I really want to

545
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<v Speaker 2>steal from this person, but I'm not going because the

546
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Taurus says I'm not going not to. That's like a

547
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>low level. That is a low level. Yes, better than nothing,

548
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>but you should know on your own that it's wrong

549
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 2>to kill and wrong to steal. And that's the whole

550
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 2>reason why we assume that people could be punished even

551
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>though they never were given a revelation like in the

552
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 2>days of Noah. Of these people they didn't know anything,

553
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>but they should have known on their own that the

554
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>killing is wrong, stealing is wrong. So all this fits

555
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<v Speaker 2>into a very nice approach that we have and is

556
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<v Speaker 2>that odds by the way, with the rumbums, the version

557
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<v Speaker 2>that we have in the mission or sort of cook

558
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>goes off and explaining how that we don't even need

559
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<v Speaker 2>to say about these people that they have a share

560
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>in the world to come, because of course they have

561
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>a share in the world to come. They're higher than

562
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 2>the people who are just doing it because they're commanded.

563
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Seduca by the way, is one you have some people

564
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<v Speaker 2>who say that the only reason we give saducah is

565
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<v Speaker 2>because we're commanded. If we weren't commanded, why would I

566
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>ever give sadaka? But that strikes me as real, really

567
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 2>off and it's not in line with all the great

568
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 2>rabbinic teachers that teach the es a notion of a

569
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 2>natural law. No, you should give saduaka because it's the

570
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>right thing to do. The lowest level is the one

571
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>who does who says, well, if it wasn't for the midst,

572
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I never give sadaka. And the only reason you're doing

573
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>it is because you're commanded. You should do it even

574
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're not commanded. And the reason we had sadukah,

575
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 2>according to many, falls into the model of a natural

576
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<v Speaker 2>law that you should know on your own intellectually, you

577
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 2>should rationally know that it's the right thing to do.

578
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<v Speaker 2>And so after summarizing this letter, he doesn't say who

579
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>it's from. He says, sing lea may Garrett a copy

580
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<v Speaker 2>of a letter, I mean a copy, And I said

581
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>to him in my note, I tell you who it is.

582
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<v Speaker 2>He says, with all due respect, the Bali Garrett, the

583
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<v Speaker 2>person who wrote this letter. It bothers me. You can't

584
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<v Speaker 2>even say re the Bali Garrett made a big mistake here,

585
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Charley Marie. May God forgive him, because even though it

586
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<v Speaker 2>says he has a good intentions, he explains that no,

587
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<v Speaker 2>that this is incorrect, that the version of the rumba

588
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>we have is correct, that just like if a Jew,

589
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>he says, yeah, the non j you has to know

590
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 2>he's doing it because it's commanded, And he gives a para.

591
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<v Speaker 2>He says, just like a Jew if you decide that

592
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<v Speaker 2>you just like every seventh day, you like to rest

593
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and you like to not use your phones, just because

594
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 2>you feel that makes for a healthier life, is that

595
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the fill in the midst of He says, of course not,

596
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no starry, You're not doing anything. So the same

597
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>thing with the non Jews. Of course, the difference is

598
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<v Speaker 2>that we're talking about a ritual law like Shabis, where

599
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>you would only do it because they're commanded, and the

600
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>natural w roof Cook would say, you can't compare the two.

601
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<v Speaker 2>The Chevs they know a her natural laws that non

602
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Jews are able to understand on their own. That's what

603
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<v Speaker 2>makes them. I mean, what does the kamara say you

604
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>could have earned certain things from behavior of animals? And

605
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>but he goes off and explains that, no, it's not true.

606
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<v Speaker 2>If Cook is wrong that you have to you have

607
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<v Speaker 2>to accept everything, you have to do it because I

608
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>guess he might say you have to do tadaka because

609
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>who's commanded. And then he says, although it's true that

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<v Speaker 2>if someone says there's hakma bagoian, there's wisdom on the goole,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, you have to believe it that's only

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<v Speaker 2>a cokma which does nothing to with Torah. But hakmasa

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<v Speaker 2>tora no. But again, if I Cook would say to him,

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<v Speaker 2>the chevss today Noah are not only from Torah. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of thing that by definition you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to figure out on your own, even without being

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<v Speaker 2>commanded their natural law. That's what of Cook would say.

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<v Speaker 2>But I Klein rejects that show them to agree with

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<v Speaker 2>what this letter says, that these people have even greater star.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he doesn't like the source from the miser

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<v Speaker 2>because Michel Sara Leezzer says that the idea is that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to you accept that it comes hussy to

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<v Speaker 2>musoam is when it comes from Noah, whereas the Rombam

624
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<v Speaker 2>says from Mosha. So I don't really have a source

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<v Speaker 2>for the rumbamba per se. So then you see Ramanasha

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<v Speaker 2>Kaim with a really very particularistic, exclusivist uh view, rejecting

627
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<v Speaker 2>not just for Cook, but this whole tradition of seeing

628
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<v Speaker 2>the rambamb not saying that the person who observes the

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<v Speaker 2>show of mispost because on his own intellect, not because

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<v Speaker 2>their commanded, is not one of the haside of Muslim,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not even one of the hum So there's more

632
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<v Speaker 2>in this letter another point. But I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>a detour now because Rabbi Mazus, who I don't know

634
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<v Speaker 2>how many of you knew anything about Rebbie Mazous before

635
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<v Speaker 2>we started these classes. We're gonna have more to say

636
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<v Speaker 2>about him in future classes. When I sent him the

637
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<v Speaker 2>copy of the book, he gives us Saturday night sheer

638
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<v Speaker 2>and then the Shear is published as weekly thing. They

639
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<v Speaker 2>printed about one hundred thousand copies in Israel. It's the

640
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<v Speaker 2>largest weekly shear in terms of distribution in the world.

641
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<v Speaker 2>They even had it in Gerbi when I was there,

642
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<v Speaker 2>printed out. But believe it or not, he dealt with

643
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<v Speaker 2>this letter from Manasha Clan in his evening sheer. So

644
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what he says. But before I do that,

645
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<v Speaker 2>on a second, I guess. Before I do that, I

646
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<v Speaker 2>want to play you just what he says. You can

647
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<v Speaker 2>actually sing it. It's on YouTube and you'll see it's

648
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<v Speaker 2>a very hard Hebrew to understand, an Arabic sort of Hebrew.

649
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<v Speaker 2>And now you have to listen carefully to what he says.

650
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<v Speaker 2>He says something about me which is incorrect, but you're

651
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<v Speaker 2>going to derive something interesting from it, so let me.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Then I'll share my screen with you and I'll explain

653
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<v Speaker 2>to you what he says if you can't understand it,

654
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<v Speaker 2>because it's not the easiest Hebrew. So this is from

655
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<v Speaker 2>November thirtieth of twenty nineteen, so that the book came

656
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<v Speaker 2>out in August of twenty nineteen. I sent it to

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<v Speaker 2>him so he so just pay attention to what he

658
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<v Speaker 2>says and then I'll summarize it for you. He was

659
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<v Speaker 2>speaking about this rumbum, and he was arguing that the

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<v Speaker 2>only correct yours is the one ella merch Maham that

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<v Speaker 2>if you do the mitsmos Noah because of your own intellect,

662
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<v Speaker 2>you're not Hasido Solim, but you're one of the ham.

663
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<v Speaker 2>So listen carefully. Here it's no.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hid with the Madras Banambia America Cobdo colmination

665
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<v Speaker 4>will have Professor Peta Peta, won't Professor sefer Marbana Wi

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<v Speaker 4>claim the milliers manage sham add to march that out

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow edge g Ella well cultivating Manila said out habits

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<v Speaker 4>for it and Rasso hellud Amita Royals to shoe safer

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<v Speaker 4>Lomar ramelskark Tibato many pot with a second person not

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<v Speaker 4>read that omar which that los my home, mam.

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<v Speaker 2>I okay, So while a couple of things first, before

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<v Speaker 2>I get to the interesting point. He says, this doesn't

673
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<v Speaker 2>make any sense. He says that how could you say that?

674
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<v Speaker 2>If you do it because of your own intellect, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to see them at Homan You're not maam.

676
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<v Speaker 2>What argue he says, Behama, are you a behamor He says,

677
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<v Speaker 2>of course it's a mistaken gear. So you have to

678
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<v Speaker 2>use your If you look at it, it's clear it's

679
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<v Speaker 2>pashoot don't and he explains so that that has to be. Now,

680
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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is that he said, if you paid attention,

681
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<v Speaker 2>he said about me that I'm a monahl bait me

682
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<v Speaker 2>drush Robinia America. I'm the head I direct j t S.

683
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<v Speaker 2>How where did you get that from? Well, so I

684
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<v Speaker 2>wrote to him, I said, I have nothing to do

685
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<v Speaker 2>with JTS. Why would you say that? Because he knew

686
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<v Speaker 2>him a professor. But he wrote back because I sent

687
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<v Speaker 2>him years before my so liberman condress and he saw that.

688
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<v Speaker 2>So he thought that I was must be running the

689
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<v Speaker 2>seminary because I'm running all about shaw Lieberman and uh

690
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 2>things like that. So uh but notice he says, he

691
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<v Speaker 2>says that he's manal bating Josh Arbon in America. But

692
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<v Speaker 2>he says, but who you're Rayshamayim. So at the time

693
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<v Speaker 2>he thought that I was working for the Conservatives, but

694
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<v Speaker 2>he says, I'm still Erasha Mayum. This gets us to

695
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<v Speaker 2>the oldest beute about Lieberman, which when we finish these classes,

696
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do the shaw Lieberman two classes. Oh he's

697
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<v Speaker 2>rshaue Liuberman. Some Godoban related to shaw Weber, like he

698
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<v Speaker 2>was one of the delict rule others wanted like the

699
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<v Speaker 2>ground Caller wanted nothing to do with him. So here

700
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<v Speaker 2>you see revend Mazoos because at this time he thought

701
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<v Speaker 2>that I was involved with the seminary. But he still

702
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<v Speaker 2>has no problem quoting me and saying, then I'm Erasia Maime.

703
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<v Speaker 2>But uh, that's interesting. Now what's this thing about Pataka?

704
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<v Speaker 2>I'll show you this because this is cute. He have

705
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<v Speaker 2>to know, I have to look it up and everything

706
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<v Speaker 2>he says, he quotes the Pussa. You see this here

707
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<v Speaker 2>in Peta. I think he just came to him. He

708
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<v Speaker 2>knows all the forest came to us by Peta. He says,

709
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<v Speaker 2>pet that's the door for the lowest row of chambers,

710
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<v Speaker 2>so he said, he said, professor Tomina Peta. And then

711
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<v Speaker 2>he call he calls me Petta or whatever I'm not

712
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<v Speaker 2>saying I'm to he wants to say it. Okay, I'll

713
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<v Speaker 2>take it. But uh. The funny thing is that this

714
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<v Speaker 2>has now become a joke among friends of mine. So uh,

715
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine just sent me. I don't want

716
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<v Speaker 2>to show you his name because maybe he doesn't want

717
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<v Speaker 2>to know it, but I'll show you the bottom maybe

718
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<v Speaker 2>you can see it. Well. Whatever he rates to me,

719
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<v Speaker 2>mat car peta, peta tough swiggly markst And I have

720
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<v Speaker 2>other people who now send me uh emails they go

721
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<v Speaker 2>to meta. So this has become a big joke that

722
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<v Speaker 2>in our little world, they're especially among the remazous people.

723
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<v Speaker 2>I'm known as patak Uh. So I guess that could

724
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<v Speaker 2>be on my you can call me. There's worse things

725
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<v Speaker 2>to be called. Uh. Incidentally, just so you don't think

726
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<v Speaker 2>that he he doesn't he does. I'll show you where

727
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<v Speaker 2>he mentions me by name, so you know I'm not

728
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<v Speaker 2>under any sort of room or anything. Here is just uh,

729
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>just a couple of months ago. I'll show you by

730
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<v Speaker 2>the way they start the weekly share with this Arabic music,

731
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<v Speaker 2>the the old Arabic music. So here just so preserve

732
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<v Speaker 2>her posterity. You can hear my name mentioned. So you

733
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<v Speaker 2>know I'm not making it up. Hold, how do you know?

734
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<v Speaker 4>Because a little because America.

735
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there you go, lely Mal Shapiro good enough.

736
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<v Speaker 2>I actually maybe I says I shouldn't be, but I

737
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<v Speaker 2>I feel very good to hear that, because you know,

738
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<v Speaker 2>I think he's like the greatest god that we have

739
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<v Speaker 2>in our time, so in terms of knowledge and breath,

740
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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna hear a lot more from him. So uh,

741
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<v Speaker 2>I feel what's an unbelievable as a houss that they

742
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<v Speaker 2>can point out something and and be mentioned and be

743
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<v Speaker 2>corrected when when people thought it was a big honor

744
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<v Speaker 2>when the love would tell you, or even Shan Lieberman

745
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<v Speaker 2>when he tell you you don't know what you're talking about.

746
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<v Speaker 2>So I feel this is a house. I don't have

747
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<v Speaker 2>that many as a julios in that, but at least

748
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<v Speaker 2>that I have, I think I have a bit of

749
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<v Speaker 2>a cuss in it. Okay. The other thing is I

750
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<v Speaker 2>want to return to Minosha clin. So the other thing

751
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<v Speaker 2>is that Ramanasha Cline I sent them that there's a Okay,

752
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<v Speaker 2>let me back up for a minute. There's there's passages

753
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<v Speaker 2>in the Talmud, not passages throughout the Talmud where hasal

754
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<v Speaker 2>cite a pussock just to prove something that you have

755
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<v Speaker 2>to do it this way? So what is that pussk

756
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<v Speaker 2>is that pussak? Are they deriving it from that pussuk? Is?

757
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<v Speaker 2>Do we already have do we have a tradition? And

758
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<v Speaker 2>this pussuk is just like a mnemonic or something to

759
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<v Speaker 2>remind us. Does the pussa create the drushah? This is

760
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<v Speaker 2>a big dispute. The rum bum says that we have

761
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<v Speaker 2>a tradition, an oral tradition on all these things, or

762
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much all these things or many of these things,

763
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<v Speaker 2>and uh, the pusak is just like a mnemonic device.

764
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<v Speaker 2>That is, they're not really deriving that you do X

765
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<v Speaker 2>or y because the pusca, No, we know it from tradition.

766
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<v Speaker 1>This is what you do.

767
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<v Speaker 2>The pusic is just being cited as like, uh, to

768
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<v Speaker 2>to help you memorize it as simon or something like that.

769
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<v Speaker 2>But it does the haha doesn't derive from the pussa.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a problematic position for many because if you

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<v Speaker 2>look in the Gallari, it does certainly seem as if

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<v Speaker 2>they're deriving it from the psuki. The Richt val In

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<v Speaker 2>in his commentary on Russia Shana, he says that what

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<v Speaker 2>what we would call it ismachta from a pussa? What

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<v Speaker 2>it is that when a toura is given, it has

776
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<v Speaker 2>the ability to be derived, that is, it's already in

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<v Speaker 2>the torah. The in in potentia should say latent that

778
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<v Speaker 2>this is the meaning. But hazal have the authority whether

779
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<v Speaker 2>to darshan it uh or not. Shaloka must come in.

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<v Speaker 2>But the saint just have the ability to derive it

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<v Speaker 2>if they want. And then what is there for us

782
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<v Speaker 2>say that this is borrow the ms and not like

783
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<v Speaker 2>the not likes, not like those who explain us Vota

784
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<v Speaker 2>shuk Derek Simon. And it's just like a mnemonic device

785
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<v Speaker 2>or a sign. But it doesn't actually it's not really

786
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<v Speaker 2>essential to the commandments. Sahoshi Kane who das minus because

787
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<v Speaker 2>if you say that it's a position of heresy, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the rum Bum says that so Ramanasha cind was speaking

789
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<v Speaker 2>about it and talking about how the rich Va and

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<v Speaker 2>most people assume that the rich Va was attacking the

791
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<v Speaker 2>Rumbum and saying it's a heretical position. By the way,

792
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<v Speaker 2>the Ritva doesn't think that the Rumm's a heretic. This

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<v Speaker 2>is also important among these shown it's not uncommon for

794
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<v Speaker 2>one to say about another that it's a heretical position.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke about the raw Bob. They say about the

796
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<v Speaker 2>raw Bogs views, it's heretical views. The Ramban says about

797
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<v Speaker 2>the Rumbum's views about certain one in particular, that certain

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<v Speaker 2>biblical events happen in dreams, that you can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that they think the rich One doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>think the Rumbum's a heretic. Just because believe in heretical

801
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<v Speaker 2>view doesn't make you a heretic. It's a good position,

802
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<v Speaker 2>I think for our day. Also, you might find someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has a position of you that he thinks heretical.

804
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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean the person's a heretic. That's what the says.

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<v Speaker 2>He says it's a dos meus, but he doesn't. Ramo

806
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<v Speaker 2>thinks differently. He doesn't think that the Rum's heretic. The

807
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<v Speaker 2>rama holds of you that he thinks is heretical. What

808
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<v Speaker 2>I sent Rabbi Klein is that there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 2>great goddo His name was Michel Enroff because he was

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<v Speaker 2>miss People don't know that much about him. But he

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<v Speaker 2>had he been a good he would have been they

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<v Speaker 2>would have made him the god old Door when he

813
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>was really an unbelievably towering figure in Michel he wrote

814
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 2>responds called Kolmavaser. Of course he has ionistic type stuff

815
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 2>in this chuva, but he has a counterest in which

816
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 2>he discusses the certain matters and he deals with this

817
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 2>rit va. And he says this rich Vuck couldn't have

818
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 2>been referring to the Rambo the Rabam's position. He didn't

819
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.800
<v Speaker 2>know about it because it was an apparish emissioner and

820
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have the Hebrew translation. He says, it's impossible

821
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to imagine that he would have said it about the Rambam.

822
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 2>There's other people who could have had this position, and

823
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.199
<v Speaker 2>as are others. REMI client and I agree it is

824
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>for my client. By the way, in this he says

825
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't see that this is necessarily true. There is

826
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<v Speaker 2>showing held of this concept bo Saguru, don't be afraid.

827
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 2>That is they they say their minds and we know

828
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 2>he says, how much the Rashkook criticized the Rhambab in

829
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 2>air force. There's no reason to assume. He doesn't mention

830
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the Resa, doesn't mention the rama my name and of

831
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>cold you could say he says that, and the person

832
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>who says this, it's a doas minos. But he doesn't

833
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<v Speaker 2>accept this idea. And by the way, if you look

834
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 2>in the addition of the safe as the karna, the

835
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 2>ritva Ormi Kama khana as I recall, he also says

836
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>this isn't correct. No reason to assume this. So that's

837
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the tuva of Ramanasha Khan. The next one we have

838
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 2>five minutes. We'll see if we get through it or not.

839
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It's taking us. It's a long one. We're going it's

840
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to go through all of it. It's

841
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>twelve pages. It's from Anam. He's someone we mentioned already,

842
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>not a well known rabbi was the rabbi in Arakiva

843
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 2>in Israel. It's not really a significant place, but he

844
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>wrote interesting books and he's one of the people I

845
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 2>corresponded with So why does I think there's three or

846
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 2>four letters from him? Because after he responded the first time,

847
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I wrote him another again and again, and this dis

848
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.840
<v Speaker 2>appears in one of his two vote volume seven Zahamanacha.

849
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I also, I feel it's a great subcost and a

850
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>great honor. Here's someone he doesn't know me other than

851
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 2>through correspondence, and yet he writes a twelve page letter

852
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to me, thirteen pages actually thirteen pages, which must have

853
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 2>taken him a number of days. How often do we

854
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 2>write letters to people we don't know, putting such effort

855
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 2>into it. I understand it's limatra, but he could do

856
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 2>a limaitar other way. It's a As I say in

857
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the preface, I'm very thankful to all of them who

858
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>who took the time and effort to write to someone

859
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 2>who they didn't know from Adam. So what were my questions?

860
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

861
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, the time I'll introduce you to the questions. We'll

862
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 2>get to the answers next week. The question was simple enough,

863
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 2>the rumbum, says his fobbos. I'm sure the rumbum in

864
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the laws of rote the laws of murder. Eric Dawa

865
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 2>test says his follows, although there are other sins that

866
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 2>are more serious than murder. They do not present as

867
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 2>serious a danger to society as murder does. Even idle

868
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 2>worship and needless to say, incest or violation of the Sabbath.

869
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 2>See this is the kbad translation, and they translate Arios's incests.

870
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>That's that's not the correct translation. Incest is included in it,

871
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 2>but so is adultery of the woman. U is a

872
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>man with a married woman. That's also included here. Generally

873
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this is a good translation, by the way, but this

874
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>is incorrect incests because you see this, you say incests,

875
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 2>and then you say gili Arios, it's you know, it's

876
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 2>not included. So he said even idle worship and neither

877
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.199
<v Speaker 2>and Minos is saying that's say, sexual morality or the

878
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 2>violation of Sabbath are not considered as severe as murder.

879
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>For these sins involve man's relationship with God. Well, murder

880
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>also involves man's relationship with his fellow man. So he's

881
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 2>telling how bad murder is. Murder is worse than ghigli Arios,

882
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's worse than and shab this is, and it's

883
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 2>worse than a votas are. But then if that's the case,

884
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 2>What does he mean when he says, although there are

885
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 2>other sins that are more serious than murder? He says,

886
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 2>awful preciation of voters. Murimi, you just told me that

887
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>murder is worse than a vodas ara and sristami. But

888
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 2>you said in the previous order, if that there are

889
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 2>sins that are worse than uh, they are worse than murder.

890
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll show you to let me read it to you.

891
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 2>What exactly says there are sins more serious than murder.

892
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 2>They don't present as serious a dangerous society as murder does.

893
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 2>So what what is it? Then? What's what's what's what's more?

894
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 2>What's worse than murder? That was the question the other

895
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>blood questions. Since we just have two minutes, say the

896
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.239
<v Speaker 2>other questions. The other questions are quick. We'll get into

897
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 2>them as well. One's easy, erasing God's name and like

898
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 2>a computer. This is at the beginning of the computer era.

899
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, you write God's name on your on your computer.

900
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Can you erase them? That's gonna be a simple one.

901
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>The next one is not so simple. We'll get back

902
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>to it next week. Let's say psychologically, someone I asked,

903
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I gave it theoretical, but you can give any example.

904
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>You need to smoke. The man says that if I

905
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.039
<v Speaker 2>don't smoke on I'm gonna go out of my mind.

906
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna jump off the building. I'm gonna kill myself.

907
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I need to smoke. It could be any other example

908
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 2>of mahal shabis or is that permitted because of someone's

909
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 2>psychological difficulty? Remember what we saw with the Lake of

910
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Versus Shiva. He was dealing with people who were addicted.

911
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.639
<v Speaker 2>I played it for you the video where he says,

912
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter if it shabas, doesn't matter if you'm

913
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 2>a kipper, if you need to call your sponsor, call

914
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>your sponsor, you're allowed to be Mihal sharpis well who

915
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>says just because someone has a psychological issue, Let's say

916
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I have a psychological issue, I feel I need to

917
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 2>eat tarfuss Uh. There's a case in the Gomara that

918
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 2>says a man he needed to uh talk to this

919
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>woman or he would die. And they say no, no,

920
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna let the binosi Cheryl Hesker. So we'll

921
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>get into this answer. How how much of a psychological

922
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:53.519
<v Speaker 2>danger to someone's self, even maybe danger to life, does

923
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that allow you then to violate shabas. If someone says that,

924
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just can't take it anymore. I'm going crazy,

925
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been all these months. I need to

926
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 2>turn on the television. Tonight's Friday Night. I mean, when

927
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 2>are you allowed? If at all? And as I said,

928
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>but the main part of this response is going to

929
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 2>be what does the rambo mean when he says that

930
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 2>certain of ViOS are worse than murder? If it's not

931
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 2>the three big ones, what could be worse than murder?

932
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And so we'll get back to that next class, and

933
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I think also next class, Yeah, we will finish this one.

934
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 2>We're going to deal with the Kleousenberger Rebbe introduce you

935
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 2>to a new figure, a very significant and very interesting

936
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 2>figure who especially when I went to ERICI Straul, But

937
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I also a terrible situation he had in the war.

938
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you about his biography and maybe that really

939
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 2>can explain some of the difficult things he says. And

940
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 2>then more good stuff. But we're up to page two

941
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty four now and the book is three hundred and

942
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>seventy one pages, so we still have time. Okay, I'm

943
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna thank you all. Let me take the questions here

944
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the chat no mass Susanna says, no mass no in Israel.

945
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>What they do with the Yeshimas now is that everyone

946
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 2>came in and they were in pods and they they

947
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>all got corona. They didn't work my son as corona.

948
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>The people you see there most of them have corona,

949
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 2>but had had, but they keep them separate. There's two groups,

950
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and the groups that are together, they're allowed to be together,

951
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're under locked out. So it's very unlikely that

952
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the few people who don't have it will get it

953
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 2>because the people because they're with people who have it,

954
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and no one's going out. But if you notice there

955
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 2>one of the rushi yeshiva, the one playing the guitar.

956
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 2>The rushi plays a guitar, but he's he's in the box.

957
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 2>And all the were bane who come in, they're in

958
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>these enclosed boxes that are closed on top. Also when

959
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they first began the year, they were not enclosed on top.

960
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:01.079
<v Speaker 2>But everything's unclosed, so but not the students. It's the

961
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>best thing this year, the students who are in Israel

962
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 2>this year and all the yeshivas they're able to have

963
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 2>the only thing they can't do is go to people's

964
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>houses for shavis, which is an important part of the year.

965
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 2>But at least they can have a normal Yeshiva experience.

966
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So David says, the Russahiva Benny Freeman is a Toma

967
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 2>revokes steam. Yes he is, although he's not he's more

968
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 2>into the racidics side. I don't know where he got

969
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>that from, because he didn't get it from a less steam.

970
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:33.199
<v Speaker 2>He's very much into the heart they have other Russia.

971
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes see Blah was also Russashiva there and I'm not

972
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 2>not saying that Benny Freeman doesn't have the head also,

973
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 2>but he leads the cums. It's every Thursday night and

974
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 2>really he's he's very good in terms of touching students. Yes,

975
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 2>rebec Kelma says music and Dovining was reformed, and indeed

976
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it was reform. Yes, Karlbach did it, and they do

977
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>it for Sri Ros. But in the middle of job

978
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Shakris Dovning, it's it's a Karba thing exactly, Howard says

979
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 2>correctly enough, telling music exists in the base of eglash

980
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.679
<v Speaker 2>a sure is something with carbonos that becomes the big

981
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 2>issue when the reformers start. So what's wrong with music

982
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and how are you saying, why can't we have music

983
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and on shopists? Why can we have a job as

984
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 2>a non jew blazon. But that's the base of dash,

985
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.039
<v Speaker 2>that's not in shoals. There's no unluckily problem. But the

986
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 2>question is are you imitating the non Jews and you

987
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 2>do it today? I don't think anyone is because the

988
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.639
<v Speaker 2>reform don't use organs today anyway, do they? So no

989
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 2>one's going to raise in the shoe I think now,

990
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Tai says the THEGUNI for the put team mini game,

991
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I row or the issue that hasn't changing dingo for

992
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 2>bacca or okay, not sure what you meant by that. Yes, yes, bah,

993
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.920
<v Speaker 2>this is exactly thet it's Fardak. I know it's Farta.

994
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>So if it's Farta, then we know where it comes from.

995
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Either comes from the Ottoman Empire or it comes from

996
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 2>ritiro Er. So I was part of the empire. I

997
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure if it was Fardak or not. Tender wine

998
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>is from the front part of the cow. Susana says, okay,

999
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 2>but in the video and the picture I showed you,

1000
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>it showed it from the back part of the cow.

1001
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 2>You saw the picture I showed you. Uh do I

1002
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 2>still have it here? No, I closed it here. It is, Susannah.

1003
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know any about cows, but there you have

1004
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>in the back. There's the tenderloine. There's the sirloin. And

1005
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe that real tenderloin we can eat in America.

1006
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 2>You can't get it anywhere they have. It's like fake

1007
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.480
<v Speaker 2>tender win That's what I'm told. I don't like steak

1008
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:35.559
<v Speaker 2>and then meat. I go to the steakhouses, I get chickens.

1009
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So I uh i am, says our ruffles at the

1010
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.159
<v Speaker 2>cotow and a hustle's phone began ringing the tune of

1011
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 2>jingle bells. It was clear he had no idea what

1012
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>it was. Yes, that is strange. Yes, the siatic nerds. Okay,

1013
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 2>you have to remove to get enough. So yeah, yeah, okay,

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01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 2>you're asking Before I got to it, Susanna says, it's

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01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>too expensive to remove it. It is very expensive. You

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01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 2>saw what the prices are of that meat. But Zev says,

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<v Speaker 2>don't try ports and official scrabble tournament or club. It

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01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.360
<v Speaker 2>will get challenged off. Why will it get challenged off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the dictionary, It's in the major dictionaries. I

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<v Speaker 2>looked online and all the big dictionaries it's there that

1021
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 2>should make it a good a good word. It's acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>in Collins, which is used all over the world, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not acceptable in North American travel. Okay, you're a

1024
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 2>scrabble person, but the word comes from England champion. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but not. My question is it should be though it's

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<v Speaker 2>an English word, it's a word. It should yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the anti Semite's over at the scrabble people.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>David says apropost secular songs and the call of a Ready,

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<v Speaker 2>A group of snarky American Shea students attended a district

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01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 2>calif in man A Brock and Tuck to Reddy in

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01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 2>his Casidom New Niggod, which is actually the musical interlude

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<v Speaker 2>in My Angel is a centerfold no no no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, and the Ready is reported as saying, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a stark of Niggod. In the mid nineteen eighties,

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01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 2>you know what, any everything has Holway sparks. So if

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01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 2>they want to raise that up, they can raise that up. Also,

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01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I told you already months ago that the Kabba in

1039
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the eighties, the habbad house in Rutgers was singing the

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01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 2>old you can see it on YouTube. Bum bum bumbobye

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01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 2>bumbobe tuna. They were Daidad and the Kabbad people, of

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01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 2>course had no idea what that was, but that was

1043
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the Nigga. Barrak points out in pretty big disinsionet case,

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01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 2>letter writing was a common pastime. You're correct, and I

1045
01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:36.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of imagined myself. And as I said, from the

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01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.119
<v Speaker 2>very first class, I you remember as this republic of letters,

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01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and as a historian, if you've seen my Winberg book,

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01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know that it couldn't have been written in the

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01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.079
<v Speaker 2>way it was certainly not the last chapter without all

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01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the letters. And I've I've published many letters. As much

1051
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 2>as my research is done with letters. I wonder what

1052
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 2>are future historians going to do? Because who writes letters?

1053
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So fine, the president and other important people they give

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01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 2>their hard drive to some library, but most of us

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01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:01.800
<v Speaker 2>write emails, and afterword on it's just it disappears. How

1056
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 2>will we be able to write history? How will be

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01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>able to know what the people were thinking? So I

1058
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's it's going to be a problem. The

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01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:13.280
<v Speaker 2>letters is what enables us to write so many important

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01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 2>things about history and all the world history, American history,

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01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the study biography. They all depend on private letters. And

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01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.280
<v Speaker 2>as I said, we were part of We had this

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01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:31.880
<v Speaker 2>republic of letters in the Jewish world as well. Im

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01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 2>not no no no uh, the the gears of the Rambam.

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<v Speaker 2>If you open up your mission tar it says the lorchmehem,

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01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 2>but the other Geirsa it says el michmehem. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a question h David Eisen's which is the correct here

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01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:51.760
<v Speaker 2>David says to Eli Wesel, have any issues in rushalkinds Antisigonis.

1069
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Elie Weisel was together with Manusha Colin and buch and

1070
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 2>volved and later of Manusha Kline was Ou Schwitzer. Also

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01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 2>with Elie Weisel. After the war, they took very different lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue isn't so much with the anti Zionists and

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01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Nasha Clin's on an anti Zionists. He took his lands

1074
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 2>for kariyas Umvar kiryat Uvar from the Zionists. He's not

1075
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 2>he's like a non Zionist. He's really not anti Zionist

1076
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 2>in the sense you think of stmore. But what was

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01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:25.960
<v Speaker 2>the lesson that Elie Weisel took from the Holocaust. It's

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01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that we have with all this hate, we have to

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01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.440
<v Speaker 2>create love. And Elie Wisel's entire life was about love.

1080
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And yet if in kiryat Umvar the base Madrish is

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01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 2>named after Elie Rissel's murdered family, I think in particular

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01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>as father. And Eli Usel was a big financial backer

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01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 2>of Nashaklin. And I only met Elie Usel once, and

1084
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the heart to mention this to him,

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01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But one day, if I knew him, I wanted to say,

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01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.639
<v Speaker 2>do you know what your money that you're such a

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01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.880
<v Speaker 2>humanist and believer and spreading of love, that your friend

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01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of Nasha Kline, that some of the things he's teaching

1089
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.800
<v Speaker 2>is in direct opposition. He's not teaching the love of

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01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 2>all people. He's teaching like a contempt of non Jews.

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01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.559
<v Speaker 2>That was very much opposed to Deli Whizzel. So I

1092
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 2>never asked Luizel that excitedly man once. It's very striking

1093
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 2>that Ramanasha client took a very different lesson from the war.

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01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 2>The lesson was that you can't trust the non Jews.

1095
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Even if a nan Jew is being nice to you,

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01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 2>really just give him a chance and I'll slit your throat,

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01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and that we have to kick to ourselfs and we

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01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 2>want nothing to do with the non Jews. Eli Wesel's listen,

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01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.280
<v Speaker 2>which is the exact opposite. That we have to learn

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01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 2>from hatred and we have to try to stop it

1101
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:37.599
<v Speaker 2>wherever we are, wherever it is. And Barrow points that

1102
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Client was not something more he was connected to Kousenberg. Yeah,

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01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Ellen says natural versus tower maybe killing, stealing, But rao

1104
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:49.039
<v Speaker 2>seems to be a weak point regardless. Well, when you

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01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.639
<v Speaker 2>speak about arayos, we're speaking about incests, we're speaking on adulteros, homosexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are regarded traditionally as being a natural war. Today

1107
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.320
<v Speaker 2>we review. I think that the move is to say

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01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:04.559
<v Speaker 2>it's not natural law that for example, homosexuality is us sir,

1109
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 2>but only because of the two commands it. But we

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01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.360
<v Speaker 2>can imagine, you know, people having the people of it,

1111
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that's their inclination, so it's not natural law. I think

1112
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.199
<v Speaker 2>that would make sense today people would have a different perspective,

1113
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 2>many people would at least, But classically a rios were

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01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.320
<v Speaker 2>included in. I mean, the incest is one of the

1115
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 2>chev missos, whether you know about it or not it's

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01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 2>one of the chev miss I mean. Rabbi Klain doesn't

1117
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 2>say that you you don't know about you. He says

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<v Speaker 2>that only if you do the things because of God,

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01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that you have a share in the world to come.

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<v Speaker 2>But you still are sinning even if you've never heard

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01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 2>about the Torah, because they're natural. The Rabbi Helma says,

1122
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Tura says if you own money, and the moral explains

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01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to Tura rights if that we should get stuck up

1124
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.960
<v Speaker 2>because we want to, not because we have to up

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<v Speaker 2>of Weinberg writes about this as well. He says there's

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01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 2>no brak on and he develops the notion that because

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01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to come internally, we're not supposed to we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's not a command. Uh maybe no, No, I

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01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I my my connection to y C T from years ago.

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01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.679
<v Speaker 2>But no, it's not. It's not y CT You believe me.

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01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, because I asked him, he thought that it

1134
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:32.719
<v Speaker 2>was j T S. Why Minihle, I don't know. Is

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01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a Jesuit university better than j T S. Yes, the

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01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Jesuit University is more than j T S. Because of

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01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Jesuit University. I'm a jewan of Jesu University. What do

1138
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to do with that. It's a non Jewish institution.

1139
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But when you're with the seminary, you're involved. You could say,

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01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 2>with the uh An institution that's in opposition to total law.

1141
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh so Borough said, he meant JTS not y c

1142
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 2>T No, No, not Rabbi Greenberg. But it's it's Rabbi

1143
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Musu's is as I said Professor tomacuffm So, I'm a

1144
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 2>professor Tomahluffam not I would say, but uh not according

1145
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to obviously the level of the people were dealing with here,

1146
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Howard says. Was Ravaren Cutler a brother in law tosh

1147
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Lieberman married to sisters daughters Risida Meltzer. No, no, Ravarn

1148
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Cutler has no relationship Toshan Lieberman. Rashaal Lieberman was the

1149
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 2>first cousin of the hash Their mothers were sisters. Ravaren

1150
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Cutler was a son in law of versus An Meltzer,

1151
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was not Rasha Lieberman. Nothing to do with

1152
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Versallal Meltzer. Risital Meltzer had other Tommy were sons in law.

1153
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh and Rafshach is also not a Rashach is a nephew.

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01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Barry says to Weber was married to the daughter of

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01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Mayor Berlin, the granddaughter of them. It said, Yes, many

1157
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 2>people will point it out. Uh, yes, they're overlated to

1158
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:07.439
<v Speaker 2>nottt Loewin asked, my wife asked Nashal Wanner, Why have

1159
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Nashaklin signed his name is Manasha Cutton, because not Klein

1160
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 2>in German Yiddish is Cutton. Somember saying, signing Minasha Colin

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01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 2>is like Nasha Cutton, just like so fair is Schreiber,

1162
01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Mosha Schreiber and Mosa so far are the same thing.

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01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So far the writer Schreiber, I see mail already pointed

1164
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 2>it out to Alvin, thank you. But it's it's also

1165
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 2>a sign of humility. As David says, they people often

1166
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 2>want to write, you know so and so Cutton, But

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01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.000
<v Speaker 2>with manashal Coin, it's not just sign of humility, it's

1168
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.359
<v Speaker 2>actually his name. A couple more, David Eisen says from

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01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Michelm Rothwanda the religious sign is was also very post

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01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.680
<v Speaker 2>served movement, and accordingly refused to accept her Cook Prize

1171
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.319
<v Speaker 2>when it was awarded together with soul Lieberman. That is correct,

1172
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:54.279
<v Speaker 2>and you can read all about that and Sol and

1173
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:59.439
<v Speaker 2>the Orthodox. But I also say that this Michelle and

1174
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Roth from show even personally, if he knew him personally,

1175
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 2>he might have had a different approach to that. And

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01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I give an example because if you look in the

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01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.279
<v Speaker 2>coom of Us there there's a letter from Michele Roth

1178
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 2>to Adolf Schwartz. Adolf Schwartz who wrote this book on

1179
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the Zarah Shova, he taught it. They Werebinical semon in Vienna.

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01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 2>The Rabinical Semon in Vienna was not a north West institution.

1181
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 2>It was a conservative instance what we call conservative. And

1182
01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:24.600
<v Speaker 2>uh Michell m Ross had no problems sending a true

1183
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:27.960
<v Speaker 2>with this man and being friends with him. So I

1184
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know that Loewan says any precedent for other respect

1185
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 2>of her bone name converting their family name in this matter.

1186
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't really convert the family name. It's just in

1187
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:44.640
<v Speaker 2>his writing he calls himself Nasha Cutton. If you look

1188
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.359
<v Speaker 2>on the when you says, if he turned the book

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01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:51.800
<v Speaker 2>over the first the title page, it has his real name.

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01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.600
<v Speaker 2>His name is Kin, but in Hebrew coin is just

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01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the translation of a Cutton. So he'd write with it.

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01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Do any others right? Well, most people well, Steinsaltz doesn't.

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01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Steinsaltz didn't he turned his team in Israel. I have

1194
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people who turned the name into Hebrew.

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01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 2>What a Steinsaltz call himself. He started using a U,

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01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a Hebrew term for his name strel So yes, we

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01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 2>have examples of that as well. David, I'm machaveing to David.

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01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:27.479
<v Speaker 2>David knows a lot, and so we were machaveing together.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Most of the show's over. Rabbi Mel mentions.

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01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Rabbi raft I mentioned him the end of last class.

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01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I recommended everyone, I said, go to YouTube. I meant,

1202
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.119
<v Speaker 2>while you Torah, you can get on the Wikipedia page.

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01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:42.399
<v Speaker 2>You can see get the link to his shar him

1204
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.319
<v Speaker 2>on hespe for Joe DiMaggio. And it is true what

1205
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Mel says. Robertaka has covid. As far as I know,

1206
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 2>at the moment, everything is okay. So uh I, we

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01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>pray that that will be the case. Three more things here,

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01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.840
<v Speaker 2>someone privately emails and then they're real. It attributes to

1209
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the death of his daughter to his once changing the

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<v Speaker 2>cantillation of a portion he read in a particular city. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not really relevant. That's a private thing. Sorry for idiot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen says adultery is a weak spot for people of

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<v Speaker 2>all stripes, regardless of other tot observants. Granted, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the issue. The issue is can you figure out

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<v Speaker 2>on your own that adultery is incorrect and wrong? And

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<v Speaker 2>we see that societies all over the world recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>it's wrong. So I know you might point up societies.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think it's wrong, but it was always understood

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<v Speaker 2>that that was regarded as a as something basic. If

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<v Speaker 2>non Jews are commanded in it, the standard position is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's natural law. It's that something you should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to conclude on your own, because otherwise, what sense

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<v Speaker 2>does it make to command people who don't have the tower? Ah? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>how I thank you? Now tell you all. Katan the

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<v Speaker 2>the the editor of the the journal Hamaiyan, whose father

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<v Speaker 2>was a from France who did the Dictionary of French

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<v Speaker 2>into old Laws Old French. In Rashi, the name is Klaing,

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<v Speaker 2>but his name is now and not just his name.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire family in Israel took the name Katan. But

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<v Speaker 2>but the Hakatan is he's combining the name with the

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<v Speaker 2>with the modest I don't think if his name was Kling,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't calling. He would have say Akatan Bar says

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<v Speaker 2>Baba Scherebbi instructed Steinsels to do that. But it should

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<v Speaker 2>be uh mela reven. Okay, yeah, so it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really a translation. Okay, everyone, well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Howard ends by saying, usually the Hebrew is not descriptive

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<v Speaker 2>for the last name. We have other examples. I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>give you and it will end Friedman, the name Friedman,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have big scholars and mayor Friedman. He published

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<v Speaker 2>various mid rassim in Hebrew. This is for you nat

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<v Speaker 2>in Hebrew. He didn't write the name mayor Friedman. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the name is Friedman. Ischello. And there's other examples

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<v Speaker 2>where I can't think of any offhand where these academic

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<v Speaker 2>scholars ceaseful Wroth in one of his essays, they wrote

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<v Speaker 2>in Hebrew. He wrote very little in Hebrew. But he

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<v Speaker 2>signs it meanha domin it like Asia de Rossi as

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he calls Roth from red. He signs it

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<v Speaker 2>meanha domein. So you have a number. I'll think of

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<v Speaker 2>it when we finish. Now, I'll think of all the others.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a common thing that you'll find among the

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<v Speaker 2>Fishenschef type scholars when they write in Hebrew hebreaicize their names.

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