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Speaker 3: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today I have another
Speaker 3: fabulously exciting show with one of my very favorite people
Speaker 3: on the planet. Returning guests mess Heidi. How are you beautiful?
Speaker 1: I am so wonderful, fabulous Janet. I am so great
Speaker 1: to be here with you today. And you're one of
Speaker 1: my besties in the group because we're women and we
Speaker 1: can chat and have fun and not talk about weird stuff.
Speaker 4: Right well, I don't know. We do talk about some
Speaker 4: weird showers.
Speaker 1: We have fun. We have fun?
Speaker 4: Why do we do have fun?
Speaker 3: And I'm so happy to have met you because you
Speaker 3: are such a phenomenal person, you know, and sometimes in
Speaker 3: this crazy clown world that we live in, it's hard
Speaker 3: to find real people, right, and so I'm very thankful
Speaker 3: to know you.
Speaker 1: You and Ibol lady, because you never know who you're
Speaker 1: talking to, and it could be a CI agent or
Speaker 1: it could be you know, a normal person like us
Speaker 1: at home, who the hell knows, but half the time
Speaker 1: it makes you paranoid. I don't know. I am so
Speaker 1: grateful because I mean, honestly, you meet a lot of
Speaker 1: people in the podcasting world, and you know, some of
Speaker 1: them just come and go, but some people say good friends.
Speaker 1: And that's what me and Janet have found. So I'm
Speaker 1: happy for that, which me too fellows as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I'm super excited that you are doing this
Speaker 3: show with me today because this is a topic that
Speaker 3: a lot of people have been asking about. They wanted
Speaker 3: to get into this, get the nitty gritty and the
Speaker 3: low down on the whole situation. So today we are
Speaker 3: going to be talking about phototherapy aka light therapy aka
Speaker 3: chromo therapy, aka led therapy or syntonic therapy. So it's
Speaker 3: a very wide umbrella that covers a lot of stuff,
Speaker 3: but it all has to do with different colors and
Speaker 3: wavelengths of light from the Roy G. Bibbscale. Do you
Speaker 3: remember that when we were little?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't know, that's been too long ago.
Speaker 4: We need to do some actually for a moment or two.
Speaker 1: Or twenty six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is a very interesting topic and uh
Speaker 3: one that you know, like people question like me anytime
Speaker 3: something is pushed out there in the mainstream, you know,
Speaker 3: where you see influencers or stuff pushing things. I'm always
Speaker 3: like very hesitant about stuff. However, being that I come
Speaker 3: from the nursing field, this has been a part of
Speaker 3: the nursing field for a very long time. The doctor
Speaker 3: that I worked for was very big on tanning beds
Speaker 3: for people who had psiiasis exima flare ups things like that,
Speaker 3: because getting into a dermatologist was always like a nine
Speaker 3: months away appointment or whatever, and if you're having a
Speaker 3: flare up, you don't want to wait. So he always
Speaker 3: suggested that or different kind of light therapies. So the
Speaker 3: thing that I find interesting about phototherapy is that it
Speaker 3: dates back to their early or mid eighteen hundreds, been
Speaker 3: going on for a long time in western eis medicine,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't until like nineteen o three there was
Speaker 3: a guy that actually won the Nobel Prize for his
Speaker 3: life therapy work with lupus, and that it was doctor
Speaker 3: Neil Spenson. And so all the way back to nineteen
Speaker 3: oh three, they've been doing different forms of life therapy,
Speaker 3: and of course they change it and they discover new
Speaker 3: things and what it treats and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: thank you for being here with me today.
Speaker 1: Absolutely I did a little. I know, Janet prepared a
Speaker 1: lot on different colors of light and what helps and
Speaker 1: all the things. So I kind of went the opposite
Speaker 1: direction and I went about, like why do we care?
Speaker 1: And what changed? Really? Right, you're talking about in nineteen
Speaker 1: oh three, this guy wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Well,
Speaker 1: what comes out in nineteen thirty sunglasses? And they were
Speaker 1: made wildly, wildly popular, not only by the CIA, like
Speaker 1: you see all the guys in black. Right, it's like
Speaker 1: a real thing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was weird, like why what why
Speaker 1: do they care about that? You know? But it got
Speaker 1: and then the mob and then on top of it, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Hollyweird got really into sunglasses. You saw all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time on these shows. It all of a
Speaker 1: sudden did a big transition. And at that time what
Speaker 1: happens is the very next year, in the nineteen thirties,
Speaker 1: it ended up that males had the greatest increase of
Speaker 1: cancer that they've ever had to this date, and they
Speaker 1: died of it. It was the number two cause of
Speaker 1: death in America at that time.
Speaker 3: Well and pwed me away thinking about like today and
Speaker 3: how many people are full of quote unquote disease, illness
Speaker 3: things like that. It's because people do not get out
Speaker 3: into the sun. They don't spend time in the sun.
Speaker 3: Were inside, We're under you know, fluorescent lights at work
Speaker 3: most of the time, or you know, things of that nature.
Speaker 3: Were always on a screen or looking at a screen
Speaker 3: instead of being out in the sun to be able
Speaker 3: to get those direct rays from the sun to keep
Speaker 3: us healthy and functioning and getting our vitamin D to
Speaker 3: activate and change into the active part that that quells
Speaker 3: and stops autommune allergies, you name it, all the stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, and people don't understand that you're okay, So this
Speaker 1: is a word I had to write down. You're super
Speaker 1: chismatic nucleus in your eye. This is why it's so
Speaker 1: important with this whole business about wind shields. Windshields came
Speaker 1: into you know, popular. I think are a good thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get hit by some crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, bug or something in my face. But I
Speaker 1: mean it changed everything about being outside. And to your
Speaker 1: they did a study. Ninety three percent of our life,
Speaker 1: not including our vehicles, is spent indoors. Right, So the
Speaker 1: super chismatic nucleus controls our circadian rhythm and it aligns
Speaker 1: our body and brain and everything with reality. So we're
Speaker 1: literally out of sync with reality because of what you
Speaker 1: just said about being under lights all the time that
Speaker 1: are weird, you know, and think about.
Speaker 3: Think about people's behavior patterns these days, right, because circadian
Speaker 3: rhythm not only has to do with sleep, but it
Speaker 3: has to do with the hormones that you release, right, yes,
Speaker 3: And so people are so out of balance. That's why
Speaker 3: you see so much anxiety, depression, mood swings, irritability, and
Speaker 3: just crazy crazy behavior nowadays.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And and with your point to the for the windshields,
Speaker 3: and the car used to be just glass and now
Speaker 3: they're coated windshields with you know, tinting and all these
Speaker 3: things built into the windshields that don't allow the rays
Speaker 3: to come through it like the old the first windshields
Speaker 3: did now And they say yeah.
Speaker 1: They even say in the windows like in our just
Speaker 1: regular house. They say, so to your point, the hormones
Speaker 1: that we release are cortisol. And here we go with
Speaker 1: like why are Americans fat? Not everyone? I'm just saying
Speaker 1: a huge thing, yep, right, And it's produced at a
Speaker 1: certain time and during the day to help you with stress.
Speaker 1: It's to motivate you almost right, Like at ten am,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be the most coordinated, most alert, most awake,
Speaker 1: most everything that you are throughout the whole day. So
Speaker 1: you're supposed to wake up and before nine am. These
Speaker 1: retinal ganglion cells are lower like in as far as
Speaker 1: the way they absorb their sleepy at that time, I
Speaker 1: guess is a good way to say it. So even
Speaker 1: if you expose yourself, like to a full sunlight room
Speaker 1: with the windows, it doesn't matter, they say, if you
Speaker 1: go out there and you absorb it little by little,
Speaker 1: like you're supposed to like think of dawn, you know
Speaker 1: till nine or ten in the morning. Well, we get
Speaker 1: that you don't have that much time. But he said,
Speaker 1: even if this doctor that I was researching through and
Speaker 1: looking at these Jama studies, they say that if you
Speaker 1: just get enough to where it's full exposure up to
Speaker 1: a certain amount of lucks per day, like it's it's okay.
Speaker 1: And you can even do it with those dawn simulating lamps.
Speaker 1: That's okay too. But it has to be gradual. It
Speaker 1: can't just be like through a window and you get
Speaker 1: it like as you walk by or or even if
Speaker 1: you sat in it. It's better to just go outside
Speaker 1: for five minutes than well.
Speaker 3: And a lot of the windows and homes nowadays are
Speaker 3: thermopane windows, which again you know, have the have the
Speaker 3: coatings built inside the windows to like stop the sun's
Speaker 3: rays from from getting all the way through, like all
Speaker 3: of the light rays and the different wavelengths and the
Speaker 3: different colors from the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it confuses us because the different lights
Speaker 1: stimulate which I'm gonna let Janet go into the different colors,
Speaker 1: but different things stimulate different actions in your body, which
Speaker 1: is why our bodies are constantly confused. But I also
Speaker 1: think it's funny that they did this big movement to
Speaker 1: blue lights and got rid of incandescence, almost making them illegal,
Speaker 1: right because well, my gosh, Osha might come into your
Speaker 1: freaking house if you break one, Get the hell out
Speaker 1: of here. What are you talking about? Our grandparents have
Speaker 1: been around this stuff forever.
Speaker 3: Great, Which the funny thing about that is, look at, uh,
Speaker 3: how like in every single hospital facility there are fluorescent lights.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's an you know how.
Speaker 3: How dangerous fluorescent lights are because if that bulb breaks,
Speaker 3: the powder that comes out of fluorescent lights is toxic
Speaker 3: to human beings.
Speaker 1: But we don't but we can still have those in
Speaker 1: our house, right, we.
Speaker 4: Can't have and in a healthcare facility what yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, they used to build these porches for sunlight,
Speaker 1: you know, for people. And I'm not saying go out
Speaker 1: and tan and get sun cancer. I'm not saying there's
Speaker 1: not dangers from the sun. I'm not especially the sun
Speaker 1: right now, which is a whole conspiracy theory. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, the trend of the yellow light, the
Speaker 1: yellow sun, the yellow incandescence. I find it very strange
Speaker 1: that everything's bright white now every and what does it
Speaker 1: bright white you know or bluish? Yeah, it's going to
Speaker 1: increase your cortisol level. So is there a reason why
Speaker 1: we're all getting heavier? I mean, it's a fact, whether
Speaker 1: it's very overweight or minutely overweight, it's a fact that
Speaker 1: we're heavier than our s well.
Speaker 3: And it's funny that you said that because cortisol, to me,
Speaker 3: is one of the most interesting hormones in our body
Speaker 3: because it is considered the stress hormone, and so especially
Speaker 3: for women, it makes you hold weight in your guts,
Speaker 3: so you're always going to have a pooch pouch no
Speaker 3: matter what you do. If your cortisol levels are high,
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to lose that weight
Speaker 3: in your abdomen section. And also, people that have frequent
Speaker 3: ringing in their ears, humming, however you want to describe it,
Speaker 3: that comes from high cortisol levels. So does memory impairment
Speaker 3: issues or weird muscle ticks and twitches, especially in the
Speaker 3: facial muscles. So if you have like an twitch in
Speaker 3: your eyelid a lot of times, or in your face somewhere,
Speaker 3: that's from cortisol.
Speaker 1: And it's important that we have cortisol during the day,
Speaker 1: but as nighttime comes, what do we do to push
Speaker 1: And I would often say it's to push our productivity,
Speaker 1: right like we're on these screens, like you've mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: we're getting that blue light continuing. But really what we're
Speaker 1: programmed for about that time to start melatonin production is
Speaker 1: to have what the sun sets, beautiful oranges and reds
Speaker 1: for a reason, and it's to help our body go, hey, stupid,
Speaker 1: you're going to go to sleep soon. Because the animals
Speaker 1: do it, the birds do it. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: some big surprise, right, Like, I mean, we see this
Speaker 1: and unless the and people will come back and say,
Speaker 1: not all birds because owls are night look at their eyes.
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing. They don't have eyes like
Speaker 1: we have, you know. So they've mentioned in these articles
Speaker 1: that I was reading. The best thing you can do
Speaker 1: is about nine o'clock if you want to go to
Speaker 1: sleep someday soon, you'll dim your lights. If you have
Speaker 1: to read something or be on a screen. I have
Speaker 1: a blue light blocker, more reds and oranges, and put
Speaker 1: the light at a lamp level like away from you,
Speaker 1: and point it down toward the floor. So like it
Speaker 1: looks like it represents like a fire, right, like we're
Speaker 1: outside around the fire and fires. Think of camping. I
Speaker 1: go camping every year for one week, full no Wi Fi,
Speaker 1: nothing where I go because I just want that week
Speaker 1: to like be with the charge and yeah, just away
Speaker 1: from everything. I've always done it for a long time now.
Speaker 1: And my kids all know where I'm gonna be on
Speaker 1: my birthday. If you want to see me, you have
Speaker 1: to drive. You can't call me, your text and you're
Speaker 1: like sorry, and they come and everybody loves it. Now
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a big thing and they just
Speaker 1: have so much fun. But I think of how tired
Speaker 1: you get, you know, camping. I could stay up till
Speaker 1: two in the morning at home. At camping, I am
Speaker 1: done after that fire for forty five minutes. I am toast,
Speaker 1: you know, like time for bed. And I'm up early
Speaker 1: in the morning too. And I don't do that because
Speaker 1: I'm a night shift worker and I'm kind of used
Speaker 1: to more of a different schedule. I don't sleep all day,
Speaker 1: but I don't wake up right at the crack of dawn.
Speaker 1: Bull camping crack of daw here we come, you know.
Speaker 1: And I even have like light blockers in my trailer.
Speaker 1: It's pitch black. It doesn't matter. Your body gets it.
Speaker 3: It knows right, and it regulates to the way that
Speaker 3: we are supposed to be. Because you know, and people
Speaker 3: talk about this a lot, how our circadian rhythms are
Speaker 3: so messed up because you're a post to wake up
Speaker 3: when the sun rises and go to bed when the
Speaker 3: sun sets. How many of us actually take advantage of that.
Speaker 3: I don't because.
Speaker 1: Definitely not me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot go to bed at seven and eight
Speaker 3: o'clock in the evening.
Speaker 4: Can't do it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Now, my husband, he is one hundred percent like it
Speaker 3: gets up when the sun rises, goes to bed when
Speaker 3: the sun is setting every day.
Speaker 1: If you can do it that way, that is the
Speaker 1: best thing to do. But if you can't take these
Speaker 1: little things that we're saying, like dim the lights. Have
Speaker 1: a blue blocker on your screen if you're watching something,
Speaker 1: have those red orange tones, like you know those lights
Speaker 1: that you can switch to red or blue or whatever,
Speaker 1: try and switch it up, put it lower like below,
Speaker 1: like so it's not the sun. Like think of your brain,
Speaker 1: you know your brain. It's amazing that our eyes are
Speaker 1: in control of this stuff. And it was funny to
Speaker 1: me as I researched this, they said that for eyes,
Speaker 1: it's really odd, like if you block it with like
Speaker 1: sunglasses or anything like that, it actually causes something which
Speaker 1: was very smart. If you are in a doctor per
Speaker 1: se that makes you know. Glasses and they became wildly
Speaker 1: popular because it decreases your depth perception and causes eye
Speaker 1: damage if you don't ever go and see the sun.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying go stare at the sun like a
Speaker 1: ridiculous person in the middle of the brightest part of
Speaker 1: the day. I'm not saying that, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: out there of studies that say, first thing in the
Speaker 1: morning sun to stare at it, just for like a
Speaker 1: few seconds. It's not that much.
Speaker 4: Really, it's like fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous to people say, oh, you'll go blind
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. You're not. I promise it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But these people have cured themselves, so they say, of
Speaker 1: these problems, I mean, we can't check it out. It's happening.
Speaker 3: And you know what's funny about the you know, the
Speaker 3: sunglasses and how it damages people's vision. You know, so
Speaker 3: many people have stigmatisms or you know, ocular issues of
Speaker 3: one kind or another. And this I mentioned syntonic therapy
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the show. Supposedly, the structures in
Speaker 3: your eye and you know, the the cranial nerves that
Speaker 3: take care of your eyes, Supposedly they don't regenerate, so
Speaker 3: once they're damaged, they're done.
Speaker 4: However, they have.
Speaker 3: Discovered that through syntonic therapy, and it's specialized light therapy
Speaker 3: using different colored light waves, that it actually renews and
Speaker 3: restores vision and regenerates. What they said all of this
Speaker 3: time can never be you know, regrown, renewed, things like that,
Speaker 3: and so people they're using it for not just a stigmatisms,
Speaker 3: but for glaucoma, cataracts, all of those things. And think
Speaker 3: about if people did the syntonic therapy instead of opting
Speaker 3: for laser cataract surgery or things of that nature. Think
Speaker 3: of how much money the medical industry would lose. Oh, first,
Speaker 3: they weren't during the eye surgeries.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I have a severe I am
Speaker 1: blind in my right eye, which I love that some
Speaker 1: person commented on one of my news our lap I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but my setup laptop is here
Speaker 1: camera is there. Somebody said I was a witch because
Speaker 1: I was looking up and down and all around and
Speaker 1: plus I'm blinded, my right, I am like, right, that
Speaker 1: is witchcraft. Okay, so I'm trying to keep my eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm not on Janet, but I like the person I'm
Speaker 1: talking to. But I guess I have to stare at
Speaker 1: the camera. But but I am one that didn't opt
Speaker 1: for surgery even though I really need it for a stigmatism,
Speaker 1: because I'm terrified to lose my sight because that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I can say.
Speaker 3: I am glad that you are not, because my dad
Speaker 3: went and had the laser cataract surgery done and then
Speaker 3: after a year, year and a half, they're like, well,
Speaker 3: your vision is still really shitty and it's not.
Speaker 4: Getting any better.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, it took your pressures and you actually need
Speaker 3: a corner transplant done. Now, anybody that has been having
Speaker 3: their new fangled surgery for laser cataract removal is finding
Speaker 3: that they are also being told that they need to
Speaker 3: have a corneal transplant done, which transplant means anti rejection
Speaker 3: meds means that you're putting a cat or a lens
Speaker 3: from somebody else's eyeball in yours right, yes, and so uh,
Speaker 3: the likelihood of a transplant in the eyeball actually taking
Speaker 3: and working is very minimal, and people are actually going
Speaker 3: blind because their transplants are rejecting.
Speaker 1: I think they must have changed the cataract surgeries because
Speaker 1: they get I think they used to do it with
Speaker 1: a knife, if I remember.
Speaker 4: Yes, they did. Now it's laser.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you can still opt for the old
Speaker 1: way because all these new people. My grandma had it,
Speaker 1: she went blind right after. Uh huh, I mean what
Speaker 1: here's the.
Speaker 4: Post the laser. If you think about like laser surgery for.
Speaker 3: Like tattoo removal or something, you are actually burning the skin, right,
Speaker 3: and so you're burning the tissue in your eyeball trying
Speaker 3: to get rid of that cataract, which is why people
Speaker 3: are having drops or increases of massive nature in their
Speaker 3: pressure in their eye, and they're telling them they need
Speaker 3: these transplants done to quote lower the pressure.
Speaker 1: Because and anytime you mess with that and the optic nerve,
Speaker 1: there are studies that say it makes your cancer rate
Speaker 1: go sky high, which is wild. I'm like, what I mean,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense, but I guess our I
Speaker 1: mean it throws everything out of whack.
Speaker 3: But if you think about the money aspect of just
Speaker 3: the eye surgery, right, So now they went to laser,
Speaker 3: and so laser is more expensive than the traditional cataract removal.
Speaker 3: And then when the laser fails, which they know it's
Speaker 3: going to fail because hello, it's built to fail, that's
Speaker 3: the way our healthcare system is, then they do the transplants,
Speaker 3: which is expensive as all get out, and they know
Speaker 3: that's going to fail as well, and then you lose
Speaker 3: your vision.
Speaker 1: So it's like can you even find a donor and.
Speaker 4: All that and rendered per se?
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, it just seems to
Speaker 1: me like there's got to be a way where we
Speaker 1: can get back to a traditional type thing like okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to do the laser on cool, but
Speaker 1: like there should be some people that still offer the
Speaker 1: regular cataract removal very simple, like it's it's just peeling
Speaker 1: a grape basically. You know you're supposed to just peel
Speaker 1: that thin film. Why do they need a high powered
Speaker 1: laser to do that?
Speaker 4: One hundred percent?
Speaker 3: And for me, I would rather try light therapy, like
Speaker 3: for forever, I have no desire to have them do
Speaker 3: surgery and my eyeballs like ever.
Speaker 1: And it's only twenty minutes in a dark room. I
Speaker 1: think it's once a day. I can't remember if it's
Speaker 1: once or twice a day, but I know it's at
Speaker 1: least once a day. So you know, with these colorful
Speaker 1: lights in your right, I mean, twenty minutes out of
Speaker 1: your whole day, I would try about anything first.
Speaker 3: It's well worth it, especially that you know twenty minutes
Speaker 3: compared to what the recovery time is for cataract removal surgery.
Speaker 1: Right, I would.
Speaker 4: I would for that any day of the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild, wild, wild, and it does have like
Speaker 1: real This isn't like snake you know, salesman stuff. This
Speaker 1: has got real JAMA studies. This is where I got
Speaker 1: a lot of my information from. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: Oh and people that don't know what JAMMA is, it's
Speaker 3: Journal of American Medicine.
Speaker 1: Yes Association, Yes j M J A M A so yes,
Speaker 1: And and they've got these things including tons of all
Speaker 1: this research for seasonal depression or bipolar for all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's like really impressive on the numbers and percentages.
Speaker 1: I mean, not that it cures something like that, but
Speaker 1: it decreases the symptoms greatly.
Speaker 3: And well, yes, because it regulates your hormone production.
Speaker 1: Right right, wild to me that they wouldn't try that first,
Speaker 1: But then we get back to money. Right.
Speaker 3: So the one thing since you mentioned the seasonal effective
Speaker 3: disorder aka winter blues syndrome more seasonal depression for a
Speaker 3: lot of people. And why is that because in the winter,
Speaker 3: how many people go outside? No one, right, and so
Speaker 3: people don't get any kind of sunlight. They're shut in
Speaker 3: literally all the time in the winter. They get no
Speaker 3: sun and so the hormones that you need to keep
Speaker 3: your body in balance and a constant state of calm,
Speaker 3: those decrease greatly during the winter. And that's why a
Speaker 3: lot of people identify with the winter blues or seasonal
Speaker 3: effective disorder.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the treatment is pretty simple. It's this getting
Speaker 1: the sunlight, even by the artificial dawn on lights, and
Speaker 1: it's a gradual rising like it would be if you
Speaker 1: were outside, you know, watching the sun come up or
Speaker 1: that's the best thing, I mean honestly, but if you
Speaker 1: can't do that for some reason, if you get one
Speaker 1: of these lights, they say that this works really well,
Speaker 1: like it gradually comes up. It's only twenty minutes of
Speaker 1: your day once again. I mean it seems like a
Speaker 1: no brainer to.
Speaker 3: Me, but right, because how much how many people waste
Speaker 3: twenty minutes in the morning, literally every single day, when
Speaker 3: you could be doing something that's beneficial.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, not only does this treat seasonal effective disorders, depressions,
Speaker 3: sleep disturbances, sleep disorders of literally all kinds, whether it's insomnia, narcolepsy,
Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff, dementia because again we're
Speaker 3: on the chemicals that are released from your brain. Chronic
Speaker 3: fatigue syndrome, which is a dandy diagnosis that is a
Speaker 3: very common diagnosis nowadays because they don't understand why people
Speaker 3: are so tired all the time. So it's just classified
Speaker 3: chronic fatigue.
Speaker 4: We already talked about the.
Speaker 3: Eye conditions acne, pariasis exima, all of the skin conditions,
Speaker 3: things like that, fine lines and wrinkles. It is really
Speaker 3: great for wound healing. They use light therapy phototherapy in
Speaker 3: a lot of wound healing centers because it's really good
Speaker 3: for tissue regeneration. It also is a hair loss treatment.
Speaker 3: UH treats again other skin stuff like roseaceous so that's
Speaker 3: when women get older, especially women, you will get red
Speaker 3: patches on your face and on your neck. It's common
Speaker 3: from you know, loss of pigmentation in your skin and
Speaker 3: things like that. So it's very good at stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's also used to treat skin cancers like basal cell carcinoma,
Speaker 3: which is the most common one because it's the most
Speaker 3: superficial one. And like I said, hormone regulation and hormone production.
Speaker 3: So if you think about how much of your body
Speaker 3: system relies and depends on hormones to keep the body
Speaker 3: in balance and in check and in homeostasis, hormone production
Speaker 3: is extremely important, not just for sleep, but for temperature regulation, moods, weight, skin, hair, nails, teeth,
Speaker 3: literally everything.
Speaker 4: They also use.
Speaker 3: Ultraviolet stuff for teeth whitening, if you've ever seen that.
Speaker 3: And those are literally just a very small list of
Speaker 3: the uses and benefits of phototherapy.
Speaker 1: So and we're not saying, okay, people are gonna come
Speaker 1: at us and say, but it goes as cancer. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, so does sunscreen first of all, But I'm.
Speaker 4: Not sunscreen more so than the actual sun.
Speaker 1: So there you go, and I and they'll say, well,
Speaker 1: you get older from using it too. You know it'll
Speaker 1: it'll aid you in sunspots. And okay, it's true. It's
Speaker 1: just like this. You could take an aspirin for your headache.
Speaker 1: It can kill you if you take too many. One
Speaker 1: is good, ten is better? Is this is an American
Speaker 1: thing that it literally even upwards with addiction that you
Speaker 1: know people don't understand. Are opioids dangerous? Yeah? Are they needed? Yes?
Speaker 1: How do we differ between the two? One is good,
Speaker 1: ten is better? That's the problem right there. It's an
Speaker 1: addiction mindset, no matter what it is.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how about use discernment because some
Speaker 3: people will use their stove for heat in the winter, right, yes,
Speaker 3: and that's great if you're standing over it trying to
Speaker 3: warm your hands or whatever, even outside over a fire.
Speaker 3: But are you gonna want to hold your hand in
Speaker 3: that fire? No common sense would tell you don't do that.
Speaker 1: Most of the treatments I've seen are twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: I don't know what hindered percent yep. And so.
Speaker 3: Talking about like skin stuff and things like that. It
Speaker 3: boosts your melatonin in your skin. It you know, has
Speaker 3: an effect where it also boosts your serotonin, which is
Speaker 3: your feel good hormone. So if you're not getting regular light,
Speaker 3: hence why most people have depression, anxiety, things like that,
Speaker 3: Because like I said, you have two types of vitamin
Speaker 3: D in your body, you have inactive and active. You
Speaker 3: have to have sunlight to activate your vitamin D. Your
Speaker 3: vitamin D is important because it will shut off interlukens
Speaker 3: and things like that that cause you to have like
Speaker 3: autoimmune or histamine responses things like that. So if you
Speaker 3: suffer from a lot of allergies, a lot of asthma, fleara,
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, like widespread body type symptoms
Speaker 3: or whatever, it's because your vitamin D is not activated.
Speaker 1: So and some people do have I'm unfortunately one. I
Speaker 1: literally don't absorb it. Like no matter how much they
Speaker 1: shove in me or how much I go outside, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm one of those unfortunate, weird people. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't have enough. Well, I'm very white.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like you know, linked with pigment. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't know, but they do continue to try and
Speaker 1: shove it down my throat regardless. I go outside in
Speaker 1: the sun all summer, I'm camping, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Something and that's like for you, like your inter lukens
Speaker 3: and stuff like that are literally in hypermode all the time.
Speaker 3: Hence the weird like allergic rhology and things like that
Speaker 3: that you experience. Yep, so you had talked about at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show resetting the circadian rhythm. So
Speaker 3: that is like uber important people that have sleep disorders
Speaker 3: of all kinds, even trouble like going to sleep, staying asleep,
Speaker 3: waking up multiple times during the.
Speaker 4: Night, also a cordisol problem as.
Speaker 3: Well, but it works on that it inhibits your melotonein synthesis.
Speaker 4: It restores collagen.
Speaker 3: So ladies and gentlemen, if you have fine lines, wrinkles,
Speaker 3: saggy skin, stuff like that, collagen is important not just
Speaker 3: for those things, but collagen is also important for any
Speaker 3: kind of cells in your body. It is at a
Speaker 3: cellular level everywhere in your body, so that you know,
Speaker 3: it stimulates production of that which is great because as
Speaker 3: we age, we lose collagen. It regulates your nervous system
Speaker 3: again because of the hormones and the chemicals that are released.
Speaker 3: It has a sterilizing effect. So not only sterilizing, you know,
Speaker 3: like during the pandemic, it was a big thing where
Speaker 3: they were using light therapy or whatever to sterilize surfaces
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Hospitals use that all the time
Speaker 3: as well as positive pressure and stuff like that in rooms.
Speaker 3: But it also has a sterilizing effect in your bloodstream
Speaker 3: and in your cells, where it can actually get rid
Speaker 3: of free radicals and toxins that age us. So that's
Speaker 3: a good thing. It expands your lung function because again
Speaker 3: it helps with collagen production, which makes your cells elastic,
Speaker 3: so it makes them able to stretch and contract and
Speaker 3: things like that. Same thing with your bowels. Think about that.
Speaker 3: If you lose the movement in your bowels because of
Speaker 3: collagen loss, you're not able to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: So it regulates blood flow and circulation. So instead of
Speaker 3: using things like beet root and stuff like that, you
Speaker 3: can actually use phototherapy to improve and increase your circulation.
Speaker 3: It can regulate your blood pressure, so it can raise
Speaker 3: your blood pressure or lower it depending on which light
Speaker 3: frequency that you use. Like I said, regulates free radicals.
Speaker 3: It has hormone regulation headache regulation because if it's improving
Speaker 3: the circulation and the blood flow, that's going to make
Speaker 3: your brain less likely to constrict, which is what causes
Speaker 3: a lot of the headaches and stuff. Not just your
Speaker 3: blood vessels and stuff, but also your muscles. They're gonna
Speaker 3: work better so you won't have some many It unclogs
Speaker 3: your lymphatic system, so people that get a lot of swelling,
Speaker 3: puffing us in their face, things like that. You can
Speaker 3: actually use light therapy to help you drain your lymphatic
Speaker 3: system a lot of times. If people have certain kind
Speaker 3: of cancers like lymphomas or whatever, they can also use
Speaker 3: light therapy that helps to regulate that drainage of the
Speaker 3: lymph which is what our immune system is built on.
Speaker 3: So that's a good thing. Works for pain reduction anywhere
Speaker 3: in the body. It increases your synovial fluid in your joints.
Speaker 3: So this has been a godsend for me because I
Speaker 3: have or get what's called a Baker cyst on the
Speaker 3: back of my knee, which means that the synovial fluid
Speaker 3: and my joint will try to leak out the back
Speaker 3: of my knee and then it forms this giant ball
Speaker 3: and it's very uncomfortable and very painful and stuff. So
Speaker 3: people that have a lot of issues, especially in the
Speaker 3: knee joints or the shoulder joints. Whenever there's synovial fluid
Speaker 3: or lacking cartilage, that actually helps to build that up again,
Speaker 3: which lubricates your joints, so that increases your ability to
Speaker 3: walk and stability, mobilization. Things like that, uh clears up vision,
Speaker 3: which we already talked about, reduces swelling. So again, people
Speaker 3: that have swelling either in their face, their hands, their feet,
Speaker 3: their legs, especially people with like diabetic aeropathy, stuff like
Speaker 3: that very beneficial for them and reduces fatigue. And why
Speaker 3: because it stimulates red blood cell production which will do
Speaker 3: creature fatigue.
Speaker 1: So and if you guys want to look at some
Speaker 1: history of this, look at diseases such as rickets, look
Speaker 1: at old fashioned treatments. Back in the day, hospitals used
Speaker 1: these big sunlit rooms for the beds and they were
Speaker 1: like a green room is the best way to, I
Speaker 1: guess explain it. But they also had big open porches
Speaker 1: for TV patients so that they could go out in
Speaker 1: the direct sunlight to help them. And that is how
Speaker 1: many people survived. Like honestly, which.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, was also part of the COVID
Speaker 3: protocol and a lot of hospitals correct sunlight.
Speaker 1: And don't go out in the sunlight if you're at home,
Speaker 1: because they definitely wanted us all to catch it. But
Speaker 1: it seemed silly to me, and that was something we
Speaker 1: really amped up at home, even though the parks were closed,
Speaker 1: and they said that they didn't chase us out. So
Speaker 1: we took our kids every day. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: going crazy anyways at our house. So we just did that,
Speaker 1: you know, for about forty five minutes or so a day,
Speaker 1: and if we got kicked out, we got kicked out,
Speaker 1: found a different park.
Speaker 4: You know, it was Chrisa.
Speaker 3: And think about how many times they want us to
Speaker 3: be inside and you know, kept indoors and and so
Speaker 3: they they push video games and movies and TV and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Like back in my day, when you
Speaker 3: got up in the morning, you ate breakfast and then
Speaker 3: you were outside until it was time for dinner.
Speaker 1: Yes, and look at this. Look at the big trend
Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies even into the eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties of sun tanning outside. Now, I'm not saying that's
Speaker 1: a good idea to be out there all day, especially
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, okay, and be getting
Speaker 1: this gorgeous tan. I mean, yes, it's going to take
Speaker 1: a toll too. Too much of a good thing is
Speaker 1: always too much of a good thing. But you didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of obesity on those beaches back then.
Speaker 1: Like I know our food is also to blame, but
Speaker 1: like there's gotta be some correlation there.
Speaker 3: But also, you cannot detoxify your body from things that
Speaker 3: are in our food or water or anything like that
Speaker 3: without getting the proper amount of sunlight, which provides the
Speaker 3: vitamin D synthesis and the hormone production and all of
Speaker 3: that stuff. Your body's not going to work properly to
Speaker 3: get rid of a lot of toxins without that.
Speaker 4: It's imperative.
Speaker 1: Well, and the fact that we see such a drastic
Speaker 1: change after that time. Like I've said, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: don't be careful or whatever. If you're out in the
Speaker 1: sun for eight hours, for hem's sakes, I mean, use
Speaker 1: your mind. Like obviously that's not going to work out,
Speaker 1: especially at the highest point of the day, right, But
Speaker 1: farmers knew this. That's why they got up early. That's
Speaker 1: why they'd eat lunch at that time or early dinner.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so important because it's going to make
Speaker 1: you if you don't get in that natural synthesis with
Speaker 1: your body and this melatonin cortisol production under control at
Speaker 1: what time it's supposed to be. You're going to get
Speaker 1: up and want to eat in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to do some things that naturally you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do. We don't see animals do it, you know.
Speaker 3: We don't mean except the skunk and the possum that
Speaker 3: like to come to our house late at night and
Speaker 3: get in her grill.
Speaker 4: But that's besides the point.
Speaker 1: They're looking. They're on a different scavenging level, right, I
Speaker 1: mean normal. I guess there's always those exceptions that are
Speaker 1: more nocturnal and everything, and we get that, but look
Speaker 1: at their eyes. Those nocturnal animals have very different eyes
Speaker 1: than like a regular mammal would.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, yeah, yeah, And it's it's very important for
Speaker 3: us to think about when you're thinking about going out
Speaker 3: in the sun. Like Heidi said, don't do it at
Speaker 3: the peak time. So don't do it at noon when
Speaker 3: the sun is directly overhead. That is when it is
Speaker 3: brightest and strongest. So first thing in the morning or
Speaker 3: in the evening as the sun is going down are
Speaker 3: the best times. Of day to get sunlight, and like
Speaker 3: you know, like she said, if you stare at the sun,
Speaker 3: it's literally like fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4: Is all you need.
Speaker 3: If you can do it for longer, great, you don't
Speaker 3: have that is literally the minimum.
Speaker 1: And we're not saying go stare at the sun. We're
Speaker 1: just putting out information because I know somebody will hit
Speaker 1: us with a disclaimer. And I get it. We know
Speaker 1: that what we've been told since eons and eons. But
Speaker 1: remember this in the nineteen thirties, the sunglasses came in
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two, sunscreen started up right, or put it on.
Speaker 1: If you are going to be at a water park
Speaker 1: for eight hours, you probably better take it with or
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay the consequence. Okay, but you best do
Speaker 1: some research in what you're putting on yourself and figure
Speaker 1: out what is the best way to do this, what's
Speaker 1: the best product, What hasn't been recalled two thousand times?
Speaker 1: Like I mean, you can get it at the dollar store.
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm not saying their brands aren't you know,
Speaker 1: good or whatever, but I think you should do some research.
Speaker 1: Just like anything else you put in your mouth, your
Speaker 1: skin is the largest organ in your body so.
Speaker 3: Well, and for people that's never heard of it before,
Speaker 3: you can actually get an app called Yuka.
Speaker 4: It's y u Ka.
Speaker 3: I think that tells you, like, if you're looking for
Speaker 3: you know, sunscreen or makeup or whatever, you can do
Speaker 3: a search on there and it will tell you the
Speaker 3: cleanest brands that are on the market and whatever you're
Speaker 3: looking at, whether it's food products or whatever. So I
Speaker 3: highly suggest getting that because that will help you tremendously
Speaker 3: in your search for stuff.
Speaker 1: And it probably won't be the aerosol misting wonderful, like
Speaker 1: the more convenience, just like food, the more convenience it is,
Speaker 1: it's the worst.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, do you know how sunscreen, cooking,
Speaker 3: spray things like that, how they.
Speaker 4: Do the propulsion system?
Speaker 1: No? You share?
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Well, it's flammable. So it is generally a petroleum
Speaker 3: or pro paane based system. And so if you're thinking
Speaker 3: about wanting to, you know, use product when you're going
Speaker 3: out in the sun, and you're using something that has
Speaker 3: propane in it that's highly flammable, that's also toxic because
Speaker 3: you sure wouldn't want to drink pro pain. Do you
Speaker 3: want that on your skin?
Speaker 1: Right? Exactly?
Speaker 4: Do you want that your eggs in the morning for breakfast?
Speaker 4: Probably not anyway, And it's hard.
Speaker 1: It is hard to I'm not saying it doesn't take
Speaker 1: more time or it's not annoying. You know, we get
Speaker 1: it like it can be. And I'm not saying don't
Speaker 1: cover up your spots if you have something like malasma. Okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't a cure all for everything. We've got certain
Speaker 1: things that this is not good for. But also, like
Speaker 1: I said, you've got to weigh it and just be wise,
Speaker 1: Like really, if it's twenty minutes in the sun or
Speaker 1: even fifteen, if you know your skin, your redhead, you
Speaker 1: can't take it that long. Okay, adjust it like do
Speaker 1: that math. But I think that you know, it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: would you go ground outside in the middle of dead,
Speaker 1: middle of winter with no shoes and socks on for
Speaker 1: an hour? Probably not, you know not. You know you're
Speaker 1: gonna adjust things for the time and you personally.
Speaker 3: Well, and not even like so much as like people
Speaker 3: staring at the sun. But even if you're outside, your
Speaker 3: skin absorbs vitamin D and other nutrients from the sun,
Speaker 3: and so if you have exposure with your skin, if
Speaker 3: you take your shoes and socks off. You know, you
Speaker 3: get sun on your feet or whatever, You're still absorbing
Speaker 3: what you need to absorb in your body. Great if
Speaker 3: you can actually look, but you don't have to because
Speaker 3: you're still absorbing, which is still.
Speaker 4: Better than not. How about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I just think it's important for us to
Speaker 1: do our research on everything that's available, not just the
Speaker 1: newest thing available, because oftentimes the newest thing today may
Speaker 1: be outlawed your run.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what we were Her and I were
Speaker 3: talking about this before the show because I am not
Speaker 3: a fan of anything that comes out that's being pushed
Speaker 3: by like all the doctors all in a craze on
Speaker 3: X or like all the Instagram influencers, and they're all
Speaker 3: pushing this supplement or this product or that product. If
Speaker 3: it is new and it's just come out, there's not
Speaker 3: enough information on it to know that it is okay.
Speaker 3: That's why this caught my attention, and that's why a
Speaker 3: lot of people have asked about this. Because one of
Speaker 3: the crazes on Instagram right now is a product called
Speaker 3: it's like luminous or something like that, and it is
Speaker 3: a facial wand that you can use that uses the
Speaker 3: different light therapies. And I was like, hmm, interesting that
Speaker 3: that is now like a mainstream thing because light therapy
Speaker 3: has been around for a very very long time. But
Speaker 3: it's interesting that they're just now coming out with this
Speaker 3: for your face, and you know, it's like an instant
Speaker 3: facelift and all of this stuff. But anything that's new,
Speaker 3: I highly caution against it un till it's been out
Speaker 3: for a hot minute, right, yes.
Speaker 1: I mean check the studies, you know, do your research.
Speaker 1: There's also some weird things like sunspray. Have you seen
Speaker 1: this again? We're getting into propulsion this weird sun spray
Speaker 1: that's out and I'm like, ah, that sounds like weird.
Speaker 4: I've not what is that I've not heard.
Speaker 1: So it's a weird sun like it's like a treatment
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like making fake sun in a can.
Speaker 1: That doesn't even sound safe. I missed sunlight missed, this says, so.
Speaker 3: I can only imagine how many chemicals that has in it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it talks about all the blue and the
Speaker 5: red and all the things, but it's saying, you know,
Speaker 5: you can use this therapy spray.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying it doesn't work. Because I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I do think this. I think you should do
Speaker 1: your homework. It's a very expensive, like one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty dollars for like a tiny little thing of it.
Speaker 3: Oh all, yeah, I would like to read like what
Speaker 3: the ingredients are in that, because I bet there's some
Speaker 3: dandies in.
Speaker 1: There, and you know, they go upwards of hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like, if you went to a
Speaker 1: dermatologist and you trust them and you want to go
Speaker 1: do that, that's fine, But I think you should always
Speaker 1: with anything, write anything, research it. I mean, just because
Speaker 1: it's good for one, like retinol is really good for
Speaker 1: people with severe acne, it doesn't mean I'm going to
Speaker 1: put it on every day. I don't think that's something
Speaker 1: I need extra on all my issues, right, I have
Speaker 1: all these weird allergies and stuff. I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: same thing for like everybody does botox. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say anything bad if you want to do it, But
Speaker 1: for me, with all my allergies, I think I could
Speaker 1: probably end up with a paralyzed face. I'm not really.
Speaker 4: Willing or paralyzed body period. Yes, yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 4: glad you.
Speaker 3: Brought up the botox because you know, we were talking
Speaker 3: about it like therapy being good for the skin.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: One of the things they literally push on females all
Speaker 3: the time is hyaluronic acid. And you know, all of
Speaker 3: these revital lift and all these products for your face. Right,
Speaker 3: Like I said before, as we age, we lose collagen,
Speaker 3: and so that's why we get the fine lines, the
Speaker 3: wrinkles or deep wrinkles, whatever. And so when you use
Speaker 3: facial products like that that claim to boost collagen and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, it is not true because they do
Speaker 3: not penetrate your skin deep enough to make a difference
Speaker 3: at all. And so you know, even people that take
Speaker 3: like collagen powder and stuff like that, you're probably not
Speaker 3: going to see any benefits in your body from taking those.
Speaker 3: And if you look at things that are in collagen
Speaker 3: products that are on the market, same thing with like
Speaker 3: workout supplements and stuff like that, there are a lot
Speaker 3: of very dangerous chemicals and additives that are in those products,
Speaker 3: and so I would definitely caution against that. I will
Speaker 3: say that if you use there's a lot of different
Speaker 3: essential oils that you can use on your face that
Speaker 3: will penetrate that I actually are collagen boosting, those are
Speaker 3: actually good for you.
Speaker 1: And make sure you know your history because somebody like
Speaker 1: me with eelers downlow syndrome, if I increase my oral
Speaker 1: production like taking a collagen and say it did happen
Speaker 1: to absorb, it's actually bad for me because my body's
Speaker 1: not going to know how to process it, because that's
Speaker 1: my whole problem. And then you can end up with
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of you know, other problems. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's sort of it.
Speaker 4: That's the same.
Speaker 3: Like people, it's all raged to do all kinds of
Speaker 3: detoxes and stuff right now, so great, but you need
Speaker 3: to read like Chalating of Minerals and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: because when you're when you're doing a detox like that
Speaker 3: heavy metal detoxes and stuff like that, you have all
Speaker 3: these free particles that are floating around in your system
Speaker 3: and you have to have something to bind them to, right,
Speaker 3: And so people, influencers and stuff that are out there
Speaker 3: selling all these products are not telling you the whole truth.
Speaker 3: So you need to do your research. And and everybody
Speaker 3: has Google, everybody has access to the Internet these days.
Speaker 4: Look stuff up.
Speaker 3: Don't just take somebody's word for something that this is
Speaker 3: going to be great look for you.
Speaker 1: And if it sounds too good to be true, let's
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, if it really is all the
Speaker 1: rage and okay, everybody's doing it and this is this
Speaker 1: and that's that. I always just think back to the
Speaker 1: fen Fen thing. People had holes in their hearts after this.
Speaker 4: Trend Ben was weight loss for people.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it was a medical weight loss, much
Speaker 1: like what we're seeing right now. I guess we should
Speaker 1: have done one on that.
Speaker 4: That a good show coming up.
Speaker 1: If you want to poison your body with you know,
Speaker 1: giela monster poison, that's up to you. Same thing. If
Speaker 1: you want to take a tablet that could potentially if
Speaker 1: mixed with the other tablet both by theirselves, they're perfectly fine. Together,
Speaker 1: they're dangerous. Did it work? Oh? Yeah, it worked? It
Speaker 1: worked so good. And I know because I was on
Speaker 1: it and so was my grandma. And my grandma had
Speaker 1: irreversible heart damage completely had to get like all kinds
Speaker 1: of issues from it. She died of heart failure later.
Speaker 1: And yeah, did she get a settlement. It wasn't worth
Speaker 1: her heart. I'm pretty sure she would have liked to
Speaker 1: live past seventy something you know, like it's just not
Speaker 1: worth it sometimes, like you look at these things and
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, what else can we do? We always
Speaker 1: want the easy thing, But the fact is ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the time that easy thing is going to land
Speaker 1: your grass in the hospital with a small ball obstruction.
Speaker 1: And that's real. You guys might want to check that out,
Speaker 1: But I think we should probably do one on radical
Speaker 1: weight loss things because it's just so dangerous.
Speaker 3: Because that's the current fad, right, and it's all over
Speaker 3: TV and there's commercials for all these different plays is
Speaker 3: doing all these different weight loss things. And here's the
Speaker 3: thing about your body, and this is no different weight
Speaker 3: loss parasite cleans et cetera, et cetera. How many years
Speaker 3: have you been on this earth? How many years have
Speaker 3: you had to screw up your body?
Speaker 4: Right? And so.
Speaker 3: Like starting even like a parasite cleanse, all right, it's
Speaker 3: gonna take you a while to expel parasites because you
Speaker 3: have had a lifetime to build them up. Same thing
Speaker 3: with your weight loss. There's nothing that you can take
Speaker 3: where it's gonna be overnight and tomorrow you're gonna wake
Speaker 3: up twenty pounds later.
Speaker 4: If you do it's probably very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Well, look at all their faces when we talk about
Speaker 1: this one. I do definitely think we should when we
Speaker 1: talk about this. I mean, there's literally something and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble for spinning out a brand,
Speaker 1: but called some thing pick face because I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble. Here starts with an oh,
Speaker 1: ends with a pick. We'll just say opic face because
Speaker 1: I don't want to get in trouble. But you can
Speaker 1: fill in the blanks. And honestly, I have literally known
Speaker 1: people like literally in my family that have ended up
Speaker 1: in the hospital with small ballobstruction. Can I prove that
Speaker 1: they and and then there's like this long term therapy
Speaker 1: that goes along with this, Like the people that went
Speaker 1: off fen fen immediately gained all the way back. You
Speaker 1: guys think that's gonna happen, Like, come on.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, you know they they will
Speaker 3: sell you these things in a pretty bow, right, But
Speaker 3: unless you can make the dietary and lifestyle changes that
Speaker 3: go along with it, it's.
Speaker 4: Not gonna fix anything.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so yeah, you're dieting, uh and and whatever,
Speaker 3: but you're still not giving up sugar. You're probably not
Speaker 3: gonna have wholehearted.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, outcome that you want to have. And if
Speaker 3: you go back to eating your regular diet again with
Speaker 3: processed foods and all of that stuff, your weight's going
Speaker 3: to come right back, and you're probably going to weigh
Speaker 3: more than you did when you started dieting.
Speaker 1: It's like the grapefruit water thing. There's been so many
Speaker 1: of them over the years. I can't remember all of them,
Speaker 1: but there there's all these fads all the time. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's not good for you. I think
Speaker 1: it might be the vinegar one, and that this and
Speaker 1: then that, and they're all probably good for you. But
Speaker 1: is it going to be a miracle. I think if
Speaker 1: it were like people would do it more and stay
Speaker 1: on it more and not fall off. And then, like
Speaker 1: she said, you're going to gain back. It's usually your
Speaker 1: weight plus twenty. And being somebody that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: regular regulated thyroid, trust me, I wish there was something
Speaker 1: because for what I eat and how I am in
Speaker 1: my life, I should weigh like a buck thirty at most,
Speaker 1: maybe a buck fifty because I'm tall. But that's not
Speaker 1: reality for me because I have no regulation system for
Speaker 1: my body. But I know that and knowing that if
Speaker 1: I did do whatever I wanted, I would be it
Speaker 1: would be bad. So you just have to adjust. You know,
Speaker 1: you're going to be different. Each person is different. That
Speaker 1: was my biggest thing in twenty twenty was like, this
Speaker 1: is a blanket thing that they're doing and saying for
Speaker 1: all these people that are all so different, that doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense and it never.
Speaker 3: Does no, And that's you know, like we have talked
Speaker 3: about this before that not everything works for everybody, So
Speaker 3: not every diet works the same for everybody, not every
Speaker 3: product works the same for everybody. But know your body
Speaker 3: and know what your limitations and your maximums and stuff
Speaker 3: like that are, and even with stuff like supplements and
Speaker 3: things like that, because can you do damage to your
Speaker 3: body from over supplementation, Absolutely absolutely you can.
Speaker 4: And you and I'm toxing the dieting.
Speaker 1: There was this recent lady that I saw on TikTok
Speaker 1: or somewhere. She died of starvation because she only ate
Speaker 1: fruit or something. I was like, what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing? There had to be something inside of you
Speaker 1: that went, yeah, this seems like I don't feel good today. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back to Karen Carpenter here. This is getting weird
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 4: And if you.
Speaker 3: Don't feel good every day, then you should make some change,
Speaker 3: you know, to your lifestyle and see how that goes
Speaker 3: right to be able to boost your body's natural ability
Speaker 3: for energy and strength. If you're eating all fruit, all vegetables,
Speaker 3: chances are you're going to feel like doodoo because you're
Speaker 3: not getting the nutrients that you need from meat, and
Speaker 3: you're also ingesting a butt load of sugar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what is your body?
Speaker 3: What does your body do in response to high sugar.
Speaker 3: It's very fatigue, very tired. You don't sleep good, You
Speaker 3: constantly feel sick all the time or cold all the
Speaker 3: time or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it don't start twenty things at once, Listen. The
Speaker 1: best advice I can give you is do one thing
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, at least fourteen days, and
Speaker 1: see if that thing makes a difference for you. Because
Speaker 1: we are all different, you know, maybe what works for
Speaker 1: Janet isn't going to work for Heidi and vice versa
Speaker 1: and whatever. We're all different people. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, like certain things are no brainer. The earth
Speaker 1: and not wearing shoes twenty four to seven. I don't
Speaker 1: walk around the whole area with no shoes, but going
Speaker 1: outside with no shoes on for a little bit of
Speaker 1: time that never hurt anybody, you know, unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: go walk on pavement, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Unless you're going outside to stand in a thing of fire. Ants,
Speaker 3: don't do that. That's not advice.
Speaker 1: And you know, the sun is there, like I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the native cultures that they worshiped the sun.
Speaker 1: I mean literally they some still do and so obviously
Speaker 1: there's something like obviously there's something to this. I mean,
Speaker 1: they knew. So when you look at that primitiveness and
Speaker 1: primitive culture, don't just go hog wild, but maybe look
Speaker 1: at their life and say, I could do this a little.
Speaker 3: Well, And see that's buddy that you mentioned that, because
Speaker 3: that was the original phototherapy, right. So, like I said, earlier,
Speaker 3: westernized medicine didn't go, oh hey, sunlight is a great
Speaker 3: idea back in the eighteen forties, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It took us a while to not be stupid and
Speaker 3: to realize that sunlight and colors from the sunlight are
Speaker 3: important things that ancient cultures and civilizations did do a
Speaker 3: lot of sungazings and worship things like that and why
Speaker 3: because it's healing anyways.
Speaker 1: Yep, and open open roof buildings too, yes, like all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wild to me that we see these things, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of just phased out. And it's more wild to
Speaker 1: me to think people don't understand it's probably not good
Speaker 1: for you to be in artificial light twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven all the time in building that you weren't really
Speaker 1: made to live in. Let's just get honest, you know, right, and.
Speaker 3: Think about the filtration system inside those buildings. Right, And
Speaker 3: so if you're worried about cooties, being inside a building
Speaker 3: is the worst place you could possibly be.
Speaker 1: And what was the first thing they did when people
Speaker 1: would catch colder get sick back in the day, They'd
Speaker 1: open all their windows. They'd open their windows, right, they
Speaker 1: see these people that were in the cold but still
Speaker 1: open windows. Well, they had a smarter idea than us
Speaker 1: because they knew about like, oh, air filtration, like to.
Speaker 4: Your point, fresh air. Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Never see that in offices, I mean any hospital.
Speaker 3: That's why me, Like even when it is twenty below
Speaker 3: zero in the winter, I will literally put on a
Speaker 3: snowsuit and go sit outside because of the fresh air
Speaker 3: and because of the sunlight.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm only getting.
Speaker 3: On my face, but at least I'm still spending time
Speaker 3: outside instead of being cooped in the house all day.
Speaker 1: My mom is the same way. I call her snow white.
Speaker 1: She has really weird She'll go outside. We live in
Speaker 1: kind of not a city city, but it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's city ish, you know, it's not the farm. So
Speaker 1: but she goes outside and she's had a stork come
Speaker 1: to her house. And she has neighbors like I mean
Speaker 1: close ish, you know, not five miles, not a mile,
Speaker 1: none of that. She's had a wild turkey. It's like
Speaker 1: they know she's out there. I think it's one hundred.
Speaker 3: It's the it's the wavelength and that's why like your
Speaker 3: energy puts out and animals can pick that up. That's
Speaker 3: what Greg calls me that too, because like there's always
Speaker 3: like hummingbirds coming or frogs hopping over to sit on
Speaker 3: my foot or whatever.
Speaker 1: Chicken and she's got a chicken in the neighbor's chicken
Speaker 1: ran away and lived at her house. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is going on with you? She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I love that though, animal therapy is a good thing too.
Speaker 1: Yes, it actually that is very healing. And we're starting
Speaker 1: to see more and more, like in old folks homes
Speaker 1: they'll have you know, the little dog that comes to
Speaker 1: the old folks havee lives there, or a cat. Even
Speaker 1: at the school, the school has gotten a dog. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really good. I mean, obviously you have
Speaker 1: to watch it in training and that it I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it. People will say, oh, my kid's allergic
Speaker 1: or you know, I get it. But also it's good
Speaker 1: for those that can participate.
Speaker 3: So with this light therapy business, there are several different
Speaker 3: forms that you can take with light therapy.
Speaker 4: They have.
Speaker 3: Sunglasses that are the different colored things, so they're not
Speaker 3: your regular you know, filter out the sun type glasses
Speaker 3: or whatever. They're actually color therapy that like say the
Speaker 3: color is yellow and you need the yellow for whatever
Speaker 3: reason that you need yellow, Like the whole thing is yellow,
Speaker 3: the lenses, the frames, all of it is yellow. So
Speaker 3: you can get sunglasses. You can get like a like
Speaker 3: what's yours. It's like the dome that goes over your face.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have this funny mask my husband bought
Speaker 1: up for me. It looks scary. I was gonna bring
Speaker 1: it down here because it looks like a scary mask.
Speaker 4: It looks you can.
Speaker 1: Change the colors. Yeah, and it is. It's cumbersome, a
Speaker 1: little bit to put on. I can't say I've been
Speaker 1: devoted to it. After we started talking about this, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I should do that more. I think the the nightlight
Speaker 1: thing that wakes up like natural sunrise is maybe more easy,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's not direct for skin either.
Speaker 3: So so they have the like she has. They also
Speaker 3: have domes that you can get that like if you
Speaker 3: lay on your back, it goes just over your face,
Speaker 3: or you can have a bigger one that goes over
Speaker 3: your body. They have literal looks like a sleeping black
Speaker 3: bag that you get into and it wraps around you.
Speaker 3: Those are ungodly expensive. I mean we're talking thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3: Everything is a different price point. But they do have
Speaker 3: on Amazon. And this is a light therapy machine that
Speaker 3: comes on a stand with adjustable height and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's got all the different light colors stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It is literally sixty dollars, that is it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Sixty dollars may seem like a lot for a lot
Speaker 3: of people. However, like I said, there's different tiers of
Speaker 3: you know, what.
Speaker 4: You can get.
Speaker 3: You can do just the facial wand you know you
Speaker 3: can get those for sixteen dollars or less. The sunglasses,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much those are. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: But there's all different price points for light therapy. So
Speaker 3: let's talk about the colors.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So red is the first one, and this is on
Speaker 3: that roy GBIV scale. It's red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo,
Speaker 3: and violet.
Speaker 4: That's what that means.
Speaker 3: So on the red scale, it increases your respiration rate.
Speaker 4: So people that have.
Speaker 3: Asthma or COPD, difficult debreathing things like that. Red light
Speaker 3: therapy is fantastic for people like that because it expands
Speaker 3: your lung function, increases your respirations. It enhances people's metabolism.
Speaker 3: That's why you will see a lot of health spas,
Speaker 3: tanning facilities things like that have red light therapy beds
Speaker 3: available because it does increase your metabitalism, which is going
Speaker 3: to help you process and maintain your weight. It also
Speaker 3: can be used to raise blood pressure, so people that
Speaker 3: have very low blood pressure issues or whatever. Red light
Speaker 3: therapy is good for you. Activates your circulatory nervous system.
Speaker 3: So people that need improved circulation things like that, or
Speaker 3: you're having issues with frequent headaches or confusion, things like that.
Speaker 3: Red light therapy is good for you. Orange, like Heidi
Speaker 3: talked about before, is an energizer, so it energizes your body,
Speaker 3: reduces localized fat, and eases digestive system discomforts. So people
Speaker 3: that have, you know, Crohn's disease, things of that nature,
Speaker 3: alsortive colitis, stuff like that. Orange light therapy is great
Speaker 3: for you. It also is very good for patients to
Speaker 3: have asthma and bronchitis. And why is that Because it's
Speaker 3: an energizer.
Speaker 4: It helps us to.
Speaker 3: Repair and expand lung function and things like that, so
Speaker 3: that's going to be a great thing for you. Yellow
Speaker 3: is the one that is a cleansing effect and a
Speaker 3: blood purer. Fire also increases neuromuscular tone, and so people
Speaker 3: that have flacid or weak muscles things like that. Yellow
Speaker 3: therapy is great to help regenerate some of those things
Speaker 3: that are going to make your muscles stronger and more toned.
Speaker 3: Also stimulates happiness, so this is another thing that they
Speaker 3: use for depression, seasonal effective disorder anxiety or yellow in
Speaker 3: general is known as a happy color, not just for
Speaker 3: light therapy, but in general. That's why a lot of
Speaker 3: daycares and stuff will paint yellow because it's shown to
Speaker 3: have a calming effect on people and makes them happy.
Speaker 3: Green Light therapy is a relaxant and also fights depression.
Speaker 3: So people that have frequent migraines, headaches, things like that,
Speaker 3: green light therapy is really good for you because a
Speaker 3: lot of times when you get a headache, it's constriction
Speaker 3: of your muscles, your blood vessels, things like that, so
Speaker 3: that's good. Also regulates your petuitary glands, so people that
Speaker 3: have hormonal issues throughout their body. Petuitary gland is your
Speaker 3: primary regulating source for your body. It produces tons of
Speaker 3: different hormones. So if you have petuitary tumors, temperature regulation issues,
Speaker 3: weight regulation issues, thirst problems, things like that, skin, all
Speaker 3: that stuff, petuitary gland therapy is going to be done
Speaker 3: with the green light therapy. It also calms your nervous
Speaker 3: system and helps you sleep better. So I have a
Speaker 3: headboard on my bed that has different light therapies on it,
Speaker 3: and so every night I go to bed with green
Speaker 3: light therapy on my bed. I set that before I
Speaker 3: ever get in bed, so it's always on green.
Speaker 4: That helps with sleeping.
Speaker 3: Now there are different shades of some of these colors.
Speaker 3: So a strong green, which is a darker green, is
Speaker 3: regenerative stimulation, and so that's when your cells are going
Speaker 3: to regenerate, your DNA's going to get stronger, muscle fibers, tissues,
Speaker 3: things of that nature. It also helps to fight infection,
Speaker 3: and so if you're somebody that gets chronic infections or
Speaker 3: something because you have a weakened immune system, strong green
Speaker 3: light therapy is great to use. It also slows down
Speaker 3: your metabolism, so for people that have maybe massive digestive
Speaker 3: issues or some kinds of cancers, that makes your metabolism
Speaker 3: very rapid, makes you lose muscle tone, It makes you
Speaker 3: basically eat up all of the minerals and stuff that
Speaker 3: are in your gut. This is a good therapy for you.
Speaker 3: Also has a calming effect any green light therapy does.
Speaker 3: Blue light therapy calms your breathing and heart rate. So
Speaker 3: if you are having an asthma attack, or you have bronchospasms,
Speaker 3: things of that nature, blue light therapy is good. It
Speaker 3: also lowers your blood pressure, helps with sleep and headaches
Speaker 3: and reduces pain. So people that have joint issues like
Speaker 3: I do, blue light therapy is is fantastic for that.
Speaker 3: Strong blue reduces stress and nervous tension, lubricates the joints.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 3: Sonovial fluid fights infections. Indigo helps eye inflammation, so people
Speaker 3: that get like the you ever see the people that
Speaker 3: have really swollen bags under their eyeballs, so that helps
Speaker 3: to take out that that swelling. It helps with cataracts.
Speaker 3: This is one of the ones that they use and
Speaker 3: the syntonic therapy for the eyeballs. Excuse me, because indigo
Speaker 3: is very good for ocular fatigue anything like that. So
Speaker 3: if you have vision issues and you want to do
Speaker 3: the vision glasses and to go as a great color
Speaker 3: for you to get because it's very beneficial for eye growth,
Speaker 3: reach generation, and things.
Speaker 4: Of that nature.
Speaker 3: Purple is a muscle relaxant, also relieves headache and arthritis,
Speaker 3: purifies the body, and assist with dedoxification. So if you
Speaker 3: are going to a health spa, a lot of times
Speaker 3: you will see purple therapy in there.
Speaker 4: And that is why.
Speaker 3: Pink eliminates impurities in the bloodstream, cleanses the body, strengthens
Speaker 3: veins and artery. So again, people have circulation issues things
Speaker 3: of that nature, or if you have like aneurysm stuff
Speaker 3: in your family, pink therapy is great. White light, which
Speaker 3: is the last one, stimulates production of serotonin, regulates sleep,
Speaker 3: and the nervous system provides energy and helps reduce the
Speaker 3: effects of seasonal effective depression.
Speaker 4: So and a who's if you're on that list.
Speaker 3: If you have some of those issues, try some light
Speaker 3: therapy because it might help you.
Speaker 1: And you said you've been using one on your forehead
Speaker 1: and that it was really working. What was that one?
Speaker 1: Which color is that? Guy?
Speaker 3: I have one that has multiple different colors in it.
Speaker 3: So I do the red light therapy and then sometimes
Speaker 3: I'll do blue or green.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll do the endigo.
Speaker 3: Like if if I get like real dark circles under
Speaker 3: my eyes or something, I'll do the indigo one. I've
Speaker 3: done the blue light therapy before. I do the lymphatic
Speaker 3: drainage frequently.
Speaker 1: With the light thing or a different thing. Okay, you
Speaker 1: said it's been working good.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 3: And then because I have that Baker's cyst that comes
Speaker 3: up with the synovial fluid on the back of my knee.
Speaker 3: A lot of times I will use the blue light
Speaker 3: on that to get that swelling out of my knee
Speaker 3: and get my my joint to reabsorb that fluid instead
Speaker 3: of bursting and running down the back of my leg.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's not fun. Yeah, that doesn't sound good
Speaker 1: at all. And but it's nice to hear somebody. That's
Speaker 1: because I got the face thing and it was very
Speaker 1: It was fairly expensive. I mean, it wasn't hundreds. I
Speaker 1: think it was a little over one hundred. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but I didn't I wasn't diligent with it, so I
Speaker 1: couldn't give you guys like, yes, this definitely works. But
Speaker 1: Janet she has been so, I mean she can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it actually helped decrease her wrinkles up here and stuff.
Speaker 3: She said, So, I still got some wrinkles, but I
Speaker 3: have deep wrinkles as I am definitely in the almost
Speaker 3: on my birthday this year, I will qualify for the
Speaker 3: senior menu if that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so it has definitely helped because I don't
Speaker 3: have as many, like around my mouth, these are not
Speaker 3: as deep as they were. So while I still have
Speaker 3: some and they're not completely gone yet, I'm still working
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 4: I'm still.
Speaker 1: It would look weird if we got older and we
Speaker 1: never aged.
Speaker 4: I don't drink.
Speaker 3: Baby's blood and things like that, so you know I don't.
Speaker 3: I do don't do regenerative stem cell therapy and things
Speaker 3: of that nature. I will not do botox. I will
Speaker 3: not have plastic surgery done. So what happens, I will.
Speaker 1: I will tell you what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will not.
Speaker 1: I'm a no on most of it. I'm a no
Speaker 1: on almost all of that because the injections in I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just scared like I'll get some weird bad side
Speaker 1: effect because that's my life, right. But I will do
Speaker 1: a removal I would take off if I get a
Speaker 1: turkey neck. You better believe I'm cutting that off.
Speaker 3: Because I feel like that that that face thing is
Speaker 3: really good for this because it drains that lymphatic tissue
Speaker 3: and bright.
Speaker 1: I just know when I was young and I saw
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, she's passed away, so it's okay, my
Speaker 1: great grandma, and she would like talk and it would move,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, is this like
Speaker 1: a thing? Is this gonna happen? You're also the reason, yeah,
Speaker 1: also the reason my fat ass will stay about the
Speaker 1: same size, because if you have drastic weight loss at
Speaker 1: like past forty, which I'm almost fifty, it's probably not
Speaker 1: unless it's for your health reasons. It's better to do
Speaker 1: slow reduction.
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, because what happens with a lot of people
Speaker 3: that especially people that choose bariatric surgery, then they have
Speaker 3: to go in and have like a tummy tuck or
Speaker 3: a lift done because you removed all of the fat
Speaker 3: cells right that are underneath your skin, and so your
Speaker 3: skin literally droops and SAgs, and it is a lot
Speaker 3: of times like holding a trash bag because it is
Speaker 3: just so it.
Speaker 1: Can be really bad if you're young. This is one
Speaker 1: reason why I had a daughter that had She had
Speaker 1: an abnormal cortisol production to the point where they kept
Speaker 1: checking her for I can't remember cushings, and she was
Speaker 1: what they called traveling cushings, which is weird because that
Speaker 1: doesn't normally happen. But it would come up and down
Speaker 1: and so it wasn't they can't treat it. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't meet the criteri but it did the last time,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't today. And it was just so annoying,
Speaker 1: and she would gain so rapid it would be like
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds bam, and then never lose it. And
Speaker 1: then this would happen every so often. And by the
Speaker 1: time she was twenty, you know, things had gotten serious.
Speaker 1: We were upwards almost three hundred pounds at that point,
Speaker 1: and I mean, she was so depressed. She couldn't do
Speaker 1: the things she wanted to do, but she was young.
Speaker 1: And I finally just told her, if you think you
Speaker 1: really cannot get a handle on this, because we had
Speaker 1: tried a lot of things because it was hormonal, and
Speaker 1: we had talked with the doctor and he's like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I would do it sooner than later. And she did
Speaker 1: have the bariatric surgery where it's not the it's like
Speaker 1: the full where they cut it, you know, where it's
Speaker 1: not a band or anything like that. And honestly, she
Speaker 1: did really well. But she will need a tummy tuck.
Speaker 1: You know. She didn't get it everywhere though she was
Speaker 1: young enough. Her arms, her legs, those things kind of recovered.
Speaker 1: If you're at a certain age, it's not gonna work. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're at a certain age, there's nothing you
Speaker 3: can do other than a tuck unless you literally don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because your sin will hang off of you.
Speaker 3: Like Heidi said before about her grandma, we call them
Speaker 3: a turkey neck or a turkey wattle where it just
Speaker 3: swings and that like the skin on your arms, the
Speaker 3: skin on your stomach, literally everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I told her, you know, she's got in
Speaker 1: a committed relationship and so I don't think she really cares.
Speaker 1: I said, but the thing is, someday do the tummy tuck.
Speaker 1: Wait till you have kids. It's a waste of money.
Speaker 1: Right now, you know that in her chest will probably
Speaker 1: need a lift. And I told her, you know what,
Speaker 1: either way on that one with before babies, after babies,
Speaker 1: that's not as important. You could do it still. You know,
Speaker 1: they've come a long way with reconstruction, and you know
Speaker 1: she could still breastfeed most likely usually you still can,
Speaker 1: but not my decision to make. But the bariatric thing
Speaker 1: was really scary, you know when we did that with
Speaker 1: her and we didn't know what we would, you know, experience,
Speaker 1: and she got way too thin and was almost terrifying.
Speaker 1: And now she's getting she's normalizing. She's had a hard
Speaker 1: time with that actually, which was weird because she got
Speaker 1: so skinny. Now she's just thin, not skinny. She's just
Speaker 1: like normal thin, and I see that way more healthy
Speaker 1: for her because it didn't show as bad, like her
Speaker 1: face started changing and her hair got thin, like all
Speaker 1: these were things.
Speaker 3: You know, it was scary because when they when they
Speaker 3: do that, and we used to have to do like
Speaker 3: the the pre physicals for stuff like that, and they
Speaker 3: have so many hoops to jump through, and like our
Speaker 3: our state, they had to go through like a psychiatric
Speaker 3: exam and you know, all this medical stuff and Ekg's
Speaker 3: and her test and blah blah blah blah blah before
Speaker 3: they were new the surgery. And then it's like after
Speaker 3: this surgery, like teaching people like you could eat like
Speaker 3: a teaspoon of this and you can't ever have pop
Speaker 3: because the carbonation expands in your stomach, and you know,
Speaker 3: all of these things, or you're going to have to
Speaker 3: take liquid vitamins because you're not going to be able
Speaker 3: to absorb anything because you know, all of this stuff,
Speaker 3: and there was so much that a lot of times
Speaker 3: if people would read what the post surgical stuff was,
Speaker 3: they would decide they weren't going to have it done.
Speaker 1: It was so much, and it was for her, and
Speaker 1: you know, Back then, they took it more serious. I
Speaker 1: think when we when we first started being exposed to this,
Speaker 1: one of my friends did it, and I would work
Speaker 1: on different floors because I floated, and they would have
Speaker 1: like the protein little thirty ccs and it was liquid
Speaker 1: aminos all this stuff, and they would come and make
Speaker 1: you do that. And now they don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, just drink some water. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this seems like it's gotten really relaxed.
Speaker 3: Relax that's because all of those people that are not
Speaker 3: still taking those you know, aminos and the vitamins and
Speaker 3: stuff like that in the liquid form, they're going to
Speaker 3: be deficient. And so they're got lifts because they're going
Speaker 3: to develop all kinds of stuff and who knows, they
Speaker 3: could actually develop scurvy because they're not getting if they're
Speaker 3: supposed to get.
Speaker 1: I was always we would have that pro stat or
Speaker 1: whatever you know, for and now they just don't do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is weird that they've changed that much.
Speaker 1: And I was concerned about it. I was like, I
Speaker 1: think we should buy this ourselves, you know, And it
Speaker 1: does make me worry, like is this the best way
Speaker 1: they're doing it anymore. I've seen a lot of changes
Speaker 1: where you know, they're doing it for people that I mean,
Speaker 1: I've known people that have had that surgery or band,
Speaker 1: especially the band, that are only like forty pounds overweight.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you insane?
Speaker 3: You know, like, and that's the things the doctor performing
Speaker 3: that surgery, that's not a great doctor. If they're allowing
Speaker 3: somebody that's only forty pounds over to have that surgery done.
Speaker 1: You should be morbidly obese. And now they've defined that
Speaker 1: as basically forty pounds overweight. Everybody's morbidly obese. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, that's stupid, Like this should all
Speaker 1: be calculated. They're still using the weight charts from like
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties and forties. I mean, are you silly?
Speaker 3: Like we lie because they can tell more people that
Speaker 3: their BMI is over what it's supposed to be and so, oh,
Speaker 3: you know you're probably gonna die of heart disease or whatever.
Speaker 4: Let's put you on medication.
Speaker 1: I want to tell people one to it. This is
Speaker 1: a funny thing that has nothing to do with light therapy,
Speaker 1: but it is funny. My husband, for anybody that's seen
Speaker 1: my husband. He is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1: At almost fifty, his like body mass index is perfect,
Speaker 1: and he's got no fat and he's you know, he
Speaker 1: is the picture of health for most men. He's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he really is. And and he works out every almost
Speaker 1: every day, you know, he doesn't usually on Sundays. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just really dedicated to weightlifting and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And he's all natural. He's never taken any kind of
Speaker 1: weird he doesn't even take supplements really, you know, he
Speaker 1: just just normal. And he's always been really dedicated to
Speaker 1: his health. That way. His cholesterol and his he is
Speaker 1: almost he's pretty diabetic. He and granted some of this
Speaker 1: is genetic, Okay, his cholesterol is high. All these crazy things.
Speaker 1: Then I eat the same as him. I'm the one
Speaker 1: cooking the food, so usually you know, and mine where
Speaker 1: you see me. I'm a curvier woman. I'm not obese,
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not thin. You know, all these things.
Speaker 1: My they called me and said, well, we have to
Speaker 1: report your cholesterols high. And I thought, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You know, I was really worried about this, and they
Speaker 1: said it's your it's your good cholesterol. And the doctor
Speaker 1: really wants to wonder what are you eating? And I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, like normal stuff, Like what
Speaker 1: do you mean? And they had me a little worried
Speaker 1: for a minute, and they're like, everything's perfect. Your blood
Speaker 1: sugars really get all this stuff. And I just thought
Speaker 1: how funny. And and that is the difference in genetics,
Speaker 1: because really I'm a hot mess express on my health,
Speaker 1: I am not. I am not the picture of health.
Speaker 1: If you saw my blood stuff and you didn't know
Speaker 1: me and didn't know my history, you would think, wow,
Speaker 1: she's really healthy. Hot mess express when it comes to
Speaker 1: the health.
Speaker 3: What was it you said before, like the cockroach that
Speaker 3: won't know or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm super ineffective at dying and I just you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm always trying to. I'm just sucky at it.
Speaker 1: My family's glad. But it's funny because he's never sick.
Speaker 1: He never has any Yeah, like he doesn't have the
Speaker 1: problems that I have. Okay, But yet if you went
Speaker 1: off just blood results and you didn't know anything else,
Speaker 1: you would think I was hit like vice. It would
Speaker 1: be vice versa you know that goes for.
Speaker 3: His Like even the cholesterol stuff and whatever is very
Speaker 3: outdated because way back in the day, like three hundred
Speaker 3: three point fifty was normal cholesterol, and they keep lowering
Speaker 3: and lowering and lowering and lowering those numbers. Same thing
Speaker 3: with blood sugar, and the more cholesterol you have actually
Speaker 3: better it is because it's a protective for your brain.
Speaker 3: People that have higher cholesterol levels generally do not have
Speaker 3: Alzheimer's and dementia and things like that because.
Speaker 1: The triglystriides is what you want to watch. That's what
Speaker 1: I always tell people when they're talking about, oh my colester,
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'm not trying to be crazy here,
Speaker 1: but just look at your triglystrides and cut your fatty foods,
Speaker 1: like honestly, if that is what it is. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about butter, okay, I'm talking about McDonald's.
Speaker 4: That I was gonna say that.
Speaker 3: There's a very big difference between fats. You have good
Speaker 3: fats and you have bad fats. So regular oil your
Speaker 3: butter is actually a healthy fat for you, you know, and
Speaker 3: bad fats are are thing. Oh and things like fatty
Speaker 3: steaks and stuff tallow things like that, or healthy fats.
Speaker 3: Avocado is healthy fat. Eggs are healthy fats, but you know,
Speaker 3: like canola oil and stuff like that. Cut that shit out.
Speaker 3: Cut out margarine, cut out fake butter. Don't eat that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's very, very toxic for your body.
Speaker 1: Right and honestly, like just try to make I always
Speaker 1: tell people this, if you can't change everything, change one thing.
Speaker 1: Change how many days you eat out a week, Change
Speaker 1: where you eat out. Look, at this point, it is
Speaker 1: the same to go to Mickeyd's as it is to
Speaker 1: go to get a food somewhere at a nicer place. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is eleven dollars for a value, mil I am
Speaker 1: not spending that when I could go to Zupas and
Speaker 1: eat a salad and soup. I'm not saying you have
Speaker 1: to have a salad. You can get a sandwich. I
Speaker 1: don't care what it is, but like it's probably better
Speaker 1: quality over here.
Speaker 4: Makes hard choices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really not that big of a change. But
Speaker 1: if you're forced into that, try and do that. Try
Speaker 1: and you know, oh, I'll pay the three extra dollars
Speaker 1: to get a healthier whatever it is. It's nothing is
Speaker 1: price effective anymore. It's not saving your money.
Speaker 3: No, No, we talk about that all the time. How
Speaker 3: like going for fast food is the same as a
Speaker 3: sit down yes night.
Speaker 1: You can get it to go. You could get to
Speaker 1: go at a nice dining with a real hamburger from like,
Speaker 1: I mean as real as going out is okay at
Speaker 1: Red Robin or somewhere right like, you could go have
Speaker 1: that for literally the same price, especially if you don't
Speaker 1: get a drink and you just have a drink at home.
Speaker 1: It's the same. And you know, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I'm perfect in any way. People watch me, I drink
Speaker 1: a soda. You're gonna see me drink a soda. I'm naughty.
Speaker 1: But what I did is I used to drink.
Speaker 4: Three a day, very naughty, by the way.
Speaker 1: I'm naughty. And I went from three a day to
Speaker 1: one a day. And I'll tell you what, Like you
Speaker 1: want to talk about dropping weight on an accident?
Speaker 4: Good way, I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: My go to used to be mountain dew. And so
Speaker 3: when I was working twelve thirteen, fourteen hour shifts, I
Speaker 3: was found in the mountain dew and I stopped mountain
Speaker 3: dew cold turkey, and I kid you not, I lost
Speaker 3: like fifteen pounds in a week.
Speaker 1: And you can even have sugar, Yeah, you could even
Speaker 1: have sun tea with real sugar if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: cut your sugar, but then you have control of how
Speaker 1: much sugar isn't in there. So it's it's these things
Speaker 1: that you can do, and if you can get down
Speaker 1: to where you don't put sugar in it, even better.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, here's your steps where you
Speaker 1: can say. I always tell everybody. My mom's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I drank too many cokes a day, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You know, I love a soda
Speaker 1: and I'm not drinking diet that. When I drink all
Speaker 1: my SODA's a it tasted bad be I ended up
Speaker 1: with cancer, so I'm not doing that. I'll just bite
Speaker 1: the bullet and drink one a day. And my kids laugh,
Speaker 1: They're like, it's usually a half because I won't drink
Speaker 1: it as soon as it's warm because it tastes a crap.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, I just or flat. It's just
Speaker 1: it's only good for a minute, right, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's as it should be. And then I just and
Speaker 1: it used to be weird for me because I grew
Speaker 1: up poor, and it was like, Okay, I don't want
Speaker 1: to waste it.
Speaker 4: But it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm like, just throw it down the train.
Speaker 4: Funny how things change.
Speaker 3: But like I grew up in the era where we
Speaker 3: belonged to the Clean Plate Club, right, and so they
Speaker 3: would make food, they would put it on your plate.
Speaker 4: You had to.
Speaker 3: Eat every everything on your plate, even if it was
Speaker 3: stuff you don't like.
Speaker 1: And now big it was weat and bigger food. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, if we have something and I'm like this is gross,
Speaker 3: like this has like got the worst taste or whatever,
Speaker 3: I'm like, throw that out because that was nasty.
Speaker 1: Well, and with my kids, we changed from the Clean
Speaker 1: Plate Club to because that's how we were, and they
Speaker 1: would give us like big pork chops, just crazy portions
Speaker 1: for a child, right. Me and my brother both struggled
Speaker 1: with waight. I think because of this, and we understood
Speaker 1: that there was price tags with it and it does
Speaker 1: mess with your head. So with my other kids, I
Speaker 1: had done that my two older kids. Now it's different dads,
Speaker 1: so it could be genetic. But my two older kids
Speaker 1: had harder time. They did have problems with their thyroid
Speaker 1: and whatnot, so I'm not counting that out. But my
Speaker 1: parenting changed and we went to the one bite rule,
Speaker 1: and my two younger kids don't have it, and we
Speaker 1: actually with our younger youngest daughter and it drives us
Speaker 1: crazy because she's got a high metabolism and she eats
Speaker 1: every couple hours. Really she does two and a half fowers.
Speaker 1: She just would want food. But we never make her
Speaker 1: finish anything. If anything, will put it in the fridge
Speaker 1: for later, because sometimes she'll want it, but sometimes she doesn't.
Speaker 1: You know, we just don't do that. And you know what,
Speaker 1: she never has struggled with her weight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing I mean they you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think they understood what they were doing with
Speaker 3: the club thing. And you would literally like there are
Speaker 3: so many foods like I can't stand today because growing up,
Speaker 3: like we would have the same meals on the same day,
Speaker 3: like every week, and so we would have like stammon
Speaker 3: patties and boxed macaroni and cheese and I don't eat
Speaker 3: that anymore. Or we would have like liver and onions
Speaker 3: and Brussels sprouts, and you couldn't reheat anything because that
Speaker 3: we didn't have a microwave. And so the longer it sits,
Speaker 3: the colder it gets the growth circuits, so cold gross sprouts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I have I have had some
Speaker 1: good Brussels sprouts as an adult, but they got real
Speaker 1: fancy and they were like roasted balsamic crusted. It's not
Speaker 1: the same as what we were served as children.
Speaker 3: Do I have PTSD from some of the foods growing up,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I can't.
Speaker 4: I cannot.
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, oh, you haven't had my Brussels sprouts. Nope,
Speaker 3: I haven't had any Barssels sprouts since I was a child,
Speaker 3: and I will not be partaking.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 3: No, you could literally have the best Brissels sprouts in
Speaker 3: the world, but I'm not gonna eat them.
Speaker 1: It's not for me. I get it. I'm that way
Speaker 1: with a lot of gamey meat. And it's just my
Speaker 1: stepdad was a hunter and everything was flamingo ps. That's
Speaker 1: what they would lie and say it was. First of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a gigantic. I gotten better about
Speaker 1: eating me as i've gotten older, but I was never
Speaker 1: into it that much. Now I do like certain you know,
Speaker 1: like steak and stuff, and it's fine, but like venison
Speaker 1: that hasn't been aged.
Speaker 4: I'm very gamy if you don't take care of that.
Speaker 1: And I think I might have an allergy because even
Speaker 1: when I've liked it, like from a butcher shop where
Speaker 1: they did something to make it less and I didn't
Speaker 1: know and it tasted just like beef, I threw up.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, maybe I have some issue here, you know,
Speaker 1: but they would force it and so yeah, it's I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I've never ate that ever.
Speaker 3: Again, Yeah, venison is not my favorite thing. Now I
Speaker 3: can do like venison jerky or summer sausage, but like
Speaker 3: venison steaks and stuff, no, because I've had so much
Speaker 3: that was so so so gayy.
Speaker 1: And I mean even when I did immediately puke. So
Speaker 1: either I'm traumatized real or.
Speaker 4: It's the it's the trauma thing I'm telling you. Even
Speaker 4: like I could not.
Speaker 3: Eat catfish oh until like my older years, because like
Speaker 3: so much catfish that I had growing up tasted very
Speaker 3: muddy and tastes like I'm literally out there slurping on
Speaker 3: a mudpie.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think, oh, there's better ways to do this stuff. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I think, I really think there's something
Speaker 1: to these different lights that like are like the sun.
Speaker 1: And I also think, because we are talking about the sun,
Speaker 1: I also think they messed with the sun. And I
Speaker 1: know how that's going to be taken. I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's different color than when I was little.
Speaker 3: Well, and they've been, you know, like the Gates Foundation
Speaker 3: has been working on quote blocking out the sun for
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 4: And why would they not, right.
Speaker 3: Because it has health benefits and so well it won
Speaker 3: us to have direct access to something and help.
Speaker 1: The different things that they seed the skies, which which
Speaker 1: you can look up. It's real, it's changed in our era.
Speaker 1: It was sulfur that they put up there a lot,
Speaker 1: and so sulfur is very yellowing and it doesn't have
Speaker 1: as much hazardous effects on you as barium, which is salts,
Speaker 1: which they're using, and barium will make things. Salt is
Speaker 1: white and and so I'm not saying they took away this.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know what they are doing,
Speaker 1: but they have done something, and I'm assuming it's what
Speaker 1: they spray up there.
Speaker 4: Has well, and there was I can't remember what the.
Speaker 3: What the name of the company was, but it was
Speaker 3: last year, I want to say, like August September ish
Speaker 3: where they came out and said, you know, here's the
Speaker 3: sun that we produced or whatever. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: a news story and so like dual suns and stuff like,
Speaker 3: is that like are they trying to like do some
Speaker 3: kind of times revelation type stuff.
Speaker 4: But I know.
Speaker 3: That the whole you know, wanting to block out the
Speaker 3: sun and stuff like that, is literally to keep us
Speaker 3: sicker so that they can force more pharma stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then they can definitely make it so
Speaker 1: that you can't grow your own food, you can't sustain yourself,
Speaker 1: you can't do all these things. And you know, Bill
Speaker 1: Gates is the largest owner of farmland in America. Only
Speaker 1: second is the Mormon LDS Church. So, and the Mormon
Speaker 1: LDS Church is the number one shareholding of their stock
Speaker 1: market portfolio is Microsoft. So I'm just saying, when you
Speaker 1: see a handholding like that, yikes.
Speaker 4: Right, run the other way, run quick.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's not It doesn't bode well for any of us.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you think they're the most best
Speaker 1: people ever. Like that tells the story of the top.
Speaker 4: Hierarchy in my opinion, and I'm not in it.
Speaker 1: Exactly. And it's scary.
Speaker 4: I'm at the bottom one percent.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's scary when we're when we're watching the torch holders,
Speaker 1: you know, lock up all the heirloom seeds and you know,
Speaker 1: make friends with corporations that they shouldn't have anything to
Speaker 1: do with. Huh weird.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, thinking about the photo therapysed of Also,
Speaker 3: grow lights are a big thing, right, so people that
Speaker 3: want to do like hydroponic gardening or you know that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you can also get grow lights that
Speaker 3: you know a lot of them are like green light
Speaker 3: therapy or whatever. And so that's interesting. So you know
Speaker 3: it works if it helps you grow plants, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: so on or whatever you're growing.
Speaker 1: Any whatever plant you're planting. Yeah, there, it is.
Speaker 4: Not up to us, is not up to us.
Speaker 1: Not against it, just don't Actually I think i'd before it,
Speaker 1: so people weren't buying some random weird stuff because I
Speaker 1: think they're poisoning that and I think people should be
Speaker 1: very careful.
Speaker 3: I agree, because the strands are different. They're they're genetically
Speaker 3: modified and manipulated from what it used to be. And
Speaker 3: so how you know, like it's funny like in the
Speaker 3: conspiracy realm, right, people are like, oh, this conspiracy, that conspiracy,
Speaker 3: but they smoke copious amounts of weed.
Speaker 1: Well you know.
Speaker 3: That's also genetically manipulated speeds are genetically manipulated, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's like, so they're marrying this with this genetically
Speaker 3: modified one, then they're creating like a questionable monster. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: you know, and you have no idea how that affects
Speaker 3: your brain chemistry and stuff.
Speaker 4: Other people see it way before you see it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's not a swag. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: the days of schwag out in your backyard like this.
Speaker 4: It's not that.
Speaker 1: And now my dad, my dad took one puff off
Speaker 1: of his neighbors. This has been years ago because he's
Speaker 1: been passed for a while, and he said, have you
Speaker 1: tried that new pot? And I said, pot makes me crazy, dad,
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, I took one hit off my
Speaker 1: neighbors and fell off my patio. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not the same anymore. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I should say not. It like literally made him nervous,
Speaker 1: you know, Like yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, And that's the thing is, you know.
Speaker 3: That's that was my point though, is that the people
Speaker 3: in the podcast community, Conspiracy World or whatever, like.
Speaker 4: Oh, I won't eat this food, or I won't drink that,
Speaker 4: or I won't.
Speaker 3: Do this or that because of the way it's manipulated,
Speaker 3: but they can't see it when it comes.
Speaker 1: To stuff.
Speaker 4: That's like or mushrooms or anything else that.
Speaker 1: They have been you're getting it, you gotta know, not
Speaker 1: just if you're growing it, not just where you get
Speaker 1: it from. Right, where is the seed from? Where is
Speaker 1: I mean, all of this matters. So yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not a bad thing. I just feel like
Speaker 1: in access anything is bad number one and number two.
Speaker 1: If you don't know where your sources or where those
Speaker 1: seeds are coming from. Even if you grew it yourself,
Speaker 1: you have no idea what monster you're you're choosing to
Speaker 1: eat or smoke. Yeah, be careful with that. So with
Speaker 1: all that, that.
Speaker 3: Was our That was our pot soapbox for the day.
Speaker 3: Hope you enjoyed that and followed debt logic. So do
Speaker 3: you have anything else to say on the light therapy.
Speaker 1: No. I just think it would be great if we
Speaker 1: all tried it out for ourselves and then you know,
Speaker 1: come back together and see maybe people couldn't even write
Speaker 1: in and let us know how it went. Would be interesting.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I, like I said, I I know it has
Speaker 3: done wonders for me. On several different fronts so far.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it. I'm happy about it, and
Speaker 3: I think it is way more mainstream now that it
Speaker 3: has ever been. I'm a firm believer in meeting people
Speaker 3: where they are as far as price point wise and stuff.
Speaker 3: That's why I threw out a bunch of different options
Speaker 3: for stuff, you know, because you can go as cheap
Speaker 3: as you want or as expensive as you want to
Speaker 3: go on this. I would love to have one of
Speaker 3: the blankets that are like the sleeping bag thing. However,
Speaker 3: I don't have three thousand dollars wow that so that's
Speaker 3: not going to happen time soon. I would go outside
Speaker 3: and lay on the concrete before I would pay that
Speaker 3: much money for.
Speaker 1: One same they'se same these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So thank you again for joining me. I love
Speaker 3: you dearly. Where can people find you at?
Speaker 1: My dear Absolutely, I am Heidi Love of the Unfiltered
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Speaker 1: dot com, or you can check me out on Spotify,
Speaker 1: which I'm dropping episodes usually now about every other day,
Speaker 1: so check me out there.
Speaker 3: Very busy lady, so crazy for me and for Heidi.
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