WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:12.320 What's up, everybody, and welcome to fire Escape Cast. I 2 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.039 am not Mike Maharty who usually leads us in, but 3 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.719 I think I'm doing a pretty good job of it. 4 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:20.679 My name is Mary or excited to get into lots 5 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.359 of game and stuff for you guys today. 6 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:23.800 I think he says that every week. 7 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:27.760 I think he always says get into the gaming stuff, Dan, 8 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:28.679 Is that how he does? 9 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.799 He says that? But you said welcome to fire Escape Cast, 10 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:34.920 which I've never heard it that way before. I think 11 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.039 technically it's fire Escape Cast, but you know it's the 12 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.320 fire Escape Cast, right, so we do we need to restart? 13 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.240 You're like, God, damn it, I don't want to restart. 14 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.039 I want all of this included. I'm not a fool. Sorry, Okay. 15 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.719 I think this is based on our Twitter handle, which 16 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.479 is like I couldn't cram in all the letters, and 17 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.719 so some of our social media is the fire Escape Cast. 18 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.600 Some of it is fire Escape Cast. Dude, I think 19 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:04.239 on Blue Sky or fire Escape like no, the no cast. Oh, 20 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:08.519 I'm pretty sure I've mixed it up as a good 21 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:12.640 social media professional will do. Dan, Thank you for that insight, 22 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:14.719 and you will also notice because there is no Mike. 23 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.560 We did need to find an awesome person to fill in, 24 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:18.599 and I think we've done it. 25 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:20.560 So everybody please. 26 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:26.920 Welcome comedian gamer Cat enthusiast Lisa Wallin. Thanks for joining everything. 27 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.319 Actually, I think now they've thought about it. I do 28 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:29.840 too much. 29 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.200 Some of us say that. I feel like in this 30 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.680 industry it's kind of required to do too much, or 31 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.719 it's really difficult to like survive. Like if someone was 32 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:45.439 like I only cover JRPGs, it's like, good luck, buddy. 33 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.480 Yeah, I only have a podcast, Like, so you make 34 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:48.439 ten dollars a week? 35 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.599 Nice? So you live with your parents? 36 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:52.560 Yeah? 37 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.159 What percentage of comedians have their own podcast? Do you think? 38 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.680 Too many? Including myself, I've had like I think this 39 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:05.719 is my fifth podcast this week, or no, just I've started. 40 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:09.240 Your individual This one's gonna say. 41 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:10.800 This one's really gonna stick though, Guys. 42 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.680 I got a good feeling about number. 43 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.759 Five were we are missing Mike my hearty this week, 44 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.120 And I was just trying to think, like, is he 45 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.560 the most like because Mary, you and I were talking 46 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.080 before this about like you know, how to move the 47 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.159 show along and like the basic things we have to do. 48 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.479 Is he the most like organized adult? Of the crew, 49 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:30.159 you think. 50 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.759 Shockingly, I will admit that I think Mike is the 51 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.240 most organized of the three of us. I don't think 52 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.199 that any of us are super duper organized. 53 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:45.039 I'm pretty organized. You're in, he's out. 54 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.560 We need like someone to keep us on track. I 55 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:51.240 just here's the way I will put it, too. 56 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:51.439 Though. 57 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.800 It's like I feel like I'm the one who's like, hey, 58 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.439 three weeks out, I'm gonna be gone, or like I 59 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.080 need to record on a weird day of the week. 60 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:02.120 Like I feel like I look ahead, but I can 61 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.719 also lapse and go like two weeks without talking to 62 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.520 you guys. Mike is the consistent one who's like, we 63 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.759 have an ad read, we have uh, you know, we 64 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.280 have something to do. Who's going to packs Like he's 65 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.879 like he's actively thinking about what we're doing all the 66 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:17.400 time and keeping us together. 67 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.560 I think he's do you know Hecknor Navarro m he's 68 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:25.360 my he's a comic book guy, but he's my co host, 69 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.159 and we just go when can we record this week? 70 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:31.800 Can you record tomorrow? We've done that, so we're very 71 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.639 We both travel a lot and that's why we do 72 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:35.319 bi weekly. 73 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.039 Yes, we did keep ourselves sane because we all have 74 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:41.840 day jobs and stuff. So it's even the bi weekly 75 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:43.199 becomes difficult. 76 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.120 Yeah, it is. I think it's a lifesaver though, because 77 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.719 quite frankly, it's also a really good gap to play 78 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.120 more games. I think if we did it weekly, I'd 79 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:53.560 be like, oh God, what did I play? Or like 80 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.039 I need to play something right now, whereas in two weeks, 81 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.680 of course, I've played two to three games in two weeks, right, Like, 82 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.080 I've had weekends in there for us to like to 83 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.520 just muck around and do nothing. So I really have 84 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.960 enjoyed the cadence that we've had, But it does not 85 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.400 mean that on the occasional week we're like who can 86 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.199 record in three hours? 87 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.800 Because that's all we have. 88 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.920 Mike's getting on a plane and I'm going on a 89 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.399 drug bender, and Dan is something going wrong with his 90 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:22.480 house or his mouth. 91 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.519 Oh speaking, which both are going wrong right now? 92 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.360 What's wrong with the inside or the outside. 93 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:35.079 So the last weird one right now is the mouth yesterday. 94 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.160 So if if you see me recoil, if I laugh 95 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.600 during this podcast, it's because they put a big bolt 96 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:40.920 screw thing in my face. 97 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.519 Yes, what happened at the summer game fest. 98 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:48.519 No, were you there that night when I got shot with? Yeah? Okay, 99 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.000 no shock, are you a witness? I didn't get injured 100 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:53.680 doing that? I thought I did. I thought I could 101 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:55.360 cuss you knock my teeth out, But no, this is 102 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.800 just a lifetime of poor dental or eating too much 103 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.680 candy probably, so I had to get an plant. So, 104 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.680 as far as I can tell, nothing wacky happened there, 105 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.519 but it's still not pleasant to uh. I didn't get 106 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.399 put under. They gave me the laughing gas, and I 107 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:09.000 had them cranking up as much a possible. But it 108 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.560 turns out, even if it doesn't hurt, you can very 109 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.959 much feel a piece of titanium screw going up into 110 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.879 your skull. And that's really that. 111 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.720 Had How did they go? Did they go too high? 112 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:22.360 They said? 113 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.600 It was like too high, they said it. 114 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.199 And that's over an inch of a screw that went 115 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.879 into my gums and into the bone. And I was 116 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:34.000 kind of freaking out a little bit, even under the nitrous. 117 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.120 So when it was going up, I was like, ah ha, 118 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:37.920 and I raised my hand and they're like, oh God, 119 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.319 are you feeling that? Are you feeling pain? You should 120 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.439 be feeling pain? And I thought about it, and I'm like, 121 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:43.319 I guess it's not pain. I'm trying to explain to 122 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:47.160 them it's weird. It's just weird. You can feel every 123 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.240 turn of the fucking screw going up there. And it 124 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.519 turns out that's not an issue that they need to 125 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:53.040 stop for. So they were just like, I fuck it, 126 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.319 and they just kept going up there. So, yeah, I'm 127 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:57.040 doing the whole soft food thing. I got the got 128 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:57.759 the pudding and all that. 129 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.560 Oh you're good. You're like a dog who got his 130 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.600 teeth rooms. 131 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.160 Yes, yeah, where's your cone? 132 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:03.480 Oh yeah, I should get that. 133 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:04.720 You're eating soft kibble. 134 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.040 Yeah, I try to. I a little bit of cheese today, 135 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.199 So that's looking all right. But so that's that's what's 136 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:10.600 going wrong. 137 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.240 And you can have cheese, that's your mouth surgery. 138 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.279 I haven't. I have a surplus of cheese right now 139 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.079 because I went to Wisconsin this weekend. But that's a 140 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:22.439 different story. The really weird one is today. Okay, So 141 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.000 I went to Wisconsin this weekend. My sister stayed in 142 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:26.920 this room. I had a blow up mattress. Put it 143 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:27.279 in here. 144 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:29.000 This is this is where I stayed when I stayed 145 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.319 in your house in same situation. 146 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.360 So I get back from Wisconsin, Kyla flies home and 147 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.920 walk in here and it kind of smells weird, and 148 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.560 I'm like, I have you know, known Kayla her entire life. 149 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.360 I've never known her to be a smelly person. She's 150 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:43.959 not a stupid person at all. I was like, why 151 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:45.439 would it be stinking here? We she only slept in 152 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.199 here one night, and it's been like four days since 153 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.279 she was in here, and so I'm starting to think, like, 154 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.560 is there something gross going on here? To the cat 155 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:54.920 piss on something? Is there shit somewhere? I got two 156 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:56.920 dogs and a cat. It could be something like that. 157 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.079 I'm looking everywhere. I don't see it. And then today 158 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.639 at least we do a show called Blight Club where 159 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:05.720 we play terrible games and we have to dress up 160 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:09.199 as the main character and I'm playing Pimp My Ride. Yeah, 161 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.319 I'm doing Pimp My Ride for PS two right now. 162 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:13.759 So they naturally sent me a pimpsuit for it. So 163 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:15.480 I had this pimp suit that when I'm done with 164 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.279 the stream, I just take it off and I throw 165 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.160 it on the floor. It's not like nice clothes, so 166 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:20.959 I don't have to worry about if it's wrinkled or anything. 167 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:25.040 We're twenty minutes before going live today and I still 168 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.240 haven't figured out where the smell is coming from. Pick 169 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.879 up the pimpsuit, dead mouse underneath it? 170 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.040 Did she bring it in as a gift for you? 171 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.959 No? I had nothing to do with my sister, certainly. 172 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.000 I texted her there's anything. We're like, there's a deadality. 173 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.199 You're just like, I don't know where to leave him, 174 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:41.480 you know? 175 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:42.120 Yeah? 176 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.480 No, I think he has everything. 177 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.759 I don't have that. Well, So now I'm thinking I'm 178 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:50.759 new to the cat game here. I got a cat 179 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.879 for it's been like two three months now. Is it 180 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.680 a chance? Do I either a have an infestation of 181 00:07:56.720 --> 00:07:59.519 mice that's new or have I maybe always had mice? 182 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.759 And now I'm just finding corpses because I've found two 183 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:03.839 in the last week now, And is it because my 184 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:04.600 cat is suddenly? 185 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.839 You know what it is? It's because one mouse found 186 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.680 out about your cheese collection and went to the other. 187 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:11.279 Going to Wisconsin. 188 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.680 There're all coming in for the cheese. 189 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:15.879 Yeah, they know you're weak. 190 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.199 From your dental surgery, so that they're taking advantage of 191 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:18.959 your time. 192 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.639 They don't know about the cat, which I think is 193 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.639 probably killing the mice because a cat is a mouse killer. 194 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.319 I'm impressed, honestly, Like I've heard, you know, you hear 195 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.240 about cat and mice and stuff. But like last night, 196 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.360 me and Bonk were watching a movie which Mary you 197 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:34.759 recommended and we can talk about in a bit. But 198 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.960 he was just locked in on this fly that he 199 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.120 saw for like two hours. He was like jumping up 200 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.399 near the screen and stuff, and he finally, after two hours, 201 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.639 killed this fucking fly. I had no idea that cats 202 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:44.080 could do that. 203 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.559 Not only do they kill flies, they torture them. They 204 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.799 like grab them and they like, oh yeah, bat them 205 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.399 around a little bit, they give them concussions, They kind 206 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.759 of like tear off their wings or their legs one 207 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:56.679 by one. They like put them in their mouth and 208 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.279 then spit them out. Cats are evil fuckers. 209 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:00.519 I think it's kind cool. 210 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.440 My cats are. My cats are sweeties, but yes, they 211 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.159 would be evil if I let them outside. 212 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:06.639 You have. 213 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.639 I have two fact ones on the bed right now, 214 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:12.240 just waiting for me to feed them dinner. 215 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:15.600 It's doing the worts Tournament's back to you right like 216 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:16.360 that I heard that. 217 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:22.000 It's just like it's not seven pm, okay, It's like 218 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.320 a cat power because they just want to hang out 219 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.799 with me all the time. It's very precious, but also 220 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.559 they're very annoying. Like I got two cats so that 221 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.879 when I travel I didn't have to worry about them 222 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:37.240 as much. But then anything like human with me right now, 223 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.360 Like they don't bite or scratch or hiss, but they 224 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.159 just love, they love attention. They want to be around 225 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.720 everyone all the time. So I really got dogs, is 226 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:46.639 what I got. 227 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.519 That's what I have. They don't, but they wouldn't kill 228 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:51.480 a mouse. If you had a mouse, would they hunt it? 229 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.519 They would probably look at me and scream because they 230 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.440 don't they share a brain cell, and it doesn't work 231 00:09:57.559 --> 00:09:57.960 very well. 232 00:09:58.759 --> 00:09:59.960 Do you cut their nails? 233 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.279 Yes? I do. I do. I used to all the time. 234 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.320 I haven't lately, but when I do, they do, they 235 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.720 just submit. They're like no survival skills. 236 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.879 That sounds completely different from mine, because like, yeah, I 237 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.039 think we were expecting almost more like dog like behavior 238 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:16.159 and like easy to like grab the hands and do 239 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.720 this stuff, and like we cannot get shit done as 240 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.240 far as like trimming the nails. We were trying to 241 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:21.840 like gab a penton and one of us holding it 242 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.639 and it's I'm still trying to figure that out. 243 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.360 I think her cats are like permanently sedated, because I 244 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:34.039 couldn't imagine even Simon wouldn't allow such a thing. They 245 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.440 allow me, like very slightly to pick them up, but 246 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.720 at some point he's like, let me down. I'm too 247 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:44.799 heavy for this. But you can't cut bosses nails or 248 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:45.679 we dried ones. 249 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.679 I think we got yeah boss big boss Yep, yep, 250 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:54.000 absolutely yes, and we got I guess they have twenty nails, right? 251 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:56.399 Is it five each? 252 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.519 You're collecting them? I go to twenty nails so far? 253 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:02.440 Don't they have like secret ones? Though they have like 254 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:03.679 secret are you assuming? 255 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.399 Oh the sixth one like their thumb is like in 256 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:07.519 their wrist or something. 257 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:10.120 Yeah, but you're not clipping their back nails, right, I. 258 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.000 Don't think so. We're just doing like the normal finger things. 259 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:15.720 So the normal hands are fine, the normal pause. 260 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.559 Yeah, I know you don't go too close to the 261 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.559 quick and all that stuff. But I think we got 262 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.399 most of them, but he just gets really pissed off 263 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.600 and not at all sedate. So we're working on that. 264 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:28.960 No, I got two stone cats. 265 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.080 You're lucky. I think the more you do it though 266 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.679 the better. Like if you don't do it, then the 267 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:38.559 cat like grows up thinking that it's not allowed or 268 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:40.399 like they don't need it, and then they're gonna be 269 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.320 even more psycho and you do have to get it done. 270 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.000 I think I've always been a bad dog parent, where 271 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:48.919 like I just never really yelled at my dog or 272 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.279 like dealt with it. And now he's nine and the 273 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.919 house he you can't touch. You can't touch his paws. 274 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.679 In fact, he yells at me if I like pick 275 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.080 up his paw, he'll like suck it away, and you're like, 276 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:01.679 you don't. 277 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.879 Have a drop at me, You don't eat taxes. 278 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.519 He does nothing for this environment, but he is my 279 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.399 darling baby boy, and I live and work to give 280 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:14.919 him a better life. So it's really on me for 281 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.080 being the parent of an only child. I've given him 282 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.039 too much and now he's a monster. Anyway. Do you 283 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:23.159 think they're killing the mice? I feel like they're killing 284 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.720 the mice. I think that did you check them for 285 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:26.600 tiny talons? 286 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:28.960 Like I didn't want to get too close, but like 287 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.840 I didn't see any like active gaping wounds or anything. 288 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.480 But the one in the bathroom was fucking like alive 289 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.039 and it was squeaking in like clearly injured. Like at 290 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.000 first I was thinking like is it did it starve 291 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.519 or something? And it's like that that actually looked pretty 292 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:44.320 like plump and stuff. So I wonder if the cat 293 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.360 just like yeah, I mean like I've got a picture 294 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.200 on the phone. I don't know, he's een all those cheese. 295 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.240 He's eating all the cheese, you know, a cheese. 296 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:55.279 He looked healthy outside of not being able to move 297 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.960 or do anything like so sad. 298 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.120 Yes, I think they could have been. It's maybe what's 299 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.639 the diff tweet a mouse and someone's lost pot that. 300 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.639 I'm showing a picture of one of the two dead 301 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:10.600 mice I found. But yeah, no, clear it's not a 302 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:11.200 murder scene. 303 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.759 There's no anywhere it looks like a murder scene. But 304 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.360 it does look it's you know what, it's content, you know, 305 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:17.759 why not? 306 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.080 But they're pu this is the bathroom one. And it's 307 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.159 like that's a plump, normal looking mouse, right. 308 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:27.639 Yeah, maybe just one on a honeymoon, you know, giving 309 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:33.159 them personality. I would care if there's a mouse in 310 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:34.639 my house. I'm like, we should get it a cage, 311 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.039 like that's how I would be. 312 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:41.279 They use a button for shields and they yeah, they 313 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.240 have like little johopes and dreams. I'm like such a 314 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:48.000 sucker for animals, even mice. I went to New York 315 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:51.399 City on a work trip and I saw a mouse 316 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.200 in the kitchen. Apparently you can't avoid it, right, like kitchens, 317 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:57.279 especially in major. 318 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:58.799 New Mice are built different too. 319 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:03.480 They're they're just it exists there. Yeah, they're functioning in 320 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.240 that space. And a little mouse ran through a restaurant 321 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.840 as we were leaving, and someone like a passer by 322 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.159 was like ew and stop, like stepped on it, and 323 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.240 it just kind of like sat there and I thought 324 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.519 it was dead. And everyone was like that's the circle 325 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:23.679 of New York life, like everyone move on. But it 326 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.559 was cold, and I felt so bad and I was 327 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.120 like it's in the middle of the sidewalk, Like I'm 328 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.559 so not cool at this, and so everyone was like 329 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:33.960 leave it, don't touch it, like they're disgusting, and I 330 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:37.360 like they are, and I was like I literally can't 331 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:37.679 help it. 332 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:38.919 And I had a conical record. 333 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.720 I have gloves on because it's cold. It was like 334 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.960 the winner. I picked it up by its tail and 335 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.440 I walked over and I just put it in a 336 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:53.320 pile of like garbage bags, and I thought, that'll give 337 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.879 it a soft resting place to either die or have 338 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.879 a nap, and then it can scurry away on its own. 339 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:02.000 But I was like, I refused, leave this like squished mouse. 340 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:03.679 You just put it back in the rushot be like, 341 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:05.840 you need to go back to work. You can't take 342 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:06.799 time off right now. 343 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.840 Putting it in the butter tray until he feels better, 344 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:11.440 Everybody leave him alone. 345 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.240 You pick it up bad bare hands. 346 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:14.240 You picked it up glove. 347 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:15.960 I had a glove because it was winter. 348 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.159 So I'm a baby, and I like this even if 349 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.080 it's dead, and I know it poses no actual threat 350 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.039 to me. Just the idea of like feeling this like 351 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.759 corpse mouse in my hand freaks me out. So I 352 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.720 have specifically for this purpose for gloves. No, I have 353 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.519 the fucking you know, the thing that they advertise for 354 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.600 old people that need to like grab things from shelves and. 355 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.440 Stuff, grabber just for your rats. 356 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.240 I have a grabber for when there's like a gross 357 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:38.159 thing lady in. 358 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.279 The Midwest right now. 359 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.559 In many ways, yeah, yeah, I grabbed it by the 360 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.120 tail with the little like grabber thing, and I just 361 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.039 take it and I just throw it in the woods. 362 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:50.039 Wow. 363 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.799 And you said that the mouse you found in the 364 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.360 bathroom was alive, So did it die in your grabber? 365 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.080 No? So okay, there was the dead one in here, 366 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.639 the pimpsuit one. Pimpsu one was definitely dead. And that's 367 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.399 just in a trash can. The one the bathroom one 368 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.519 which was still squeaking and stuff. That was really sad. 369 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.519 We actually did a me and Bank kind of scooted 370 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.799 it into a box and then moved it out back 371 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.399 and just kind of put it like a hawk is 372 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.039 probably taking it ten minutes later, you know, but at. 373 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.879 Least it goes into the circle of life. I mean, 374 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.240 I feel like a hawk eating like a mouse. 375 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:21.919 I die. 376 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:22.480 Isn't so sad? 377 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:24.080 I let them go out. Yeah. 378 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.240 And I don't like spiders, but I will pick them up, 379 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.480 not with my hands, my god, never a spider. I 380 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.279 will find a way to put them in a cup. 381 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.440 See. I don't mind spiders. I just hate their webs 382 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.799 because it's like I don't consent to touching those like, 383 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.360 you know, like, and they're always in random places where 384 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:41.120 I can't find them. 385 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:44.480 Want to say, there, Kayla, she had a tarantula like 386 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.840 one of those big fuzzy ass ones, and like she'd 387 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.159 be sitting in her room growing up playing Dynasty Warriors 388 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.399 as like a little kid and just have this fucker 389 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.440 crawling all over her head back and everything. 390 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:58.879 I'm good, yeah, no, I give yeah. Also, just like 391 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:02.080 people who own bub it's like they don't live very long. 392 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.640 So why is there like a tortoise of the bug 393 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:07.440 world that does live. 394 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.039 I don't know. There's like the big beetles, you see, 395 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.680 they live like six months. So I'm like, how like 396 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.640 you just want to get your heart broken six months 397 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:15.720 and then get a new one. 398 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.200 I don't think I realized. I think it was like 399 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.400 a year ago on a podcast. I think Jeff Beckler 400 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.599 came brought to my attention that like I didn't realize 401 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.279 bugs were dying every winter, and I didn't realize that 402 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.359 it was a thing that like he's like, oh, you 403 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.279 never noticed that there's less bugs in the winter. I 404 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.839 was like, no, I didn't even think about, Like do 405 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:36.799 you ever notice. I here's the thing. I didn't think anything. 406 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.559 Didn't notice anything. Yeah, I didn't know if it's like 407 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.240 I didn't even notice they were gone during the winter 408 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.400 or that they were more prominent in the summer. I 409 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.960 just didn't clock it. I guess if something's not in 410 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.200 front of my face, I'm not thinking about it typically. 411 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:50.799 So I definitely noticed it more in California than I 412 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.440 did back in Washington because it gets so hot here 413 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.000 and then the bugs are trying to get in the 414 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.160 house to cool off, and I'm like, no, no, no, this 415 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.200 is I pay rent not you get out. 416 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.440 FORNI a year year round. Like bug issues. 417 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:05.680 I mean like I have a shit ton of plants 418 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:07.440 and the only time I ever get bug issues is 419 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.519 in the summer. They all get like a fids and 420 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.720 like fruit flies. I actually haven't gone any fruit flies 421 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.640 this year knock on wooden shockingly, but it's always really 422 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.759 hard between like June and like August, and I'm like, oh, 423 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.720 even the bugs, no, even they know what's up. 424 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:23.960 Do you ever get one of the like electric tennis 425 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:24.880 racket gimmicks? 426 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.400 No, I just put you know, eat. The solution for 427 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.559 fruit flies is right, what you get a bowl of water, 428 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.119 vinegar and dish soap. He's put it out and literally 429 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.519 the next day they're all in there. It's disgusting. It's 430 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:39.319 like crack for them. 431 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.079 I think I never had to consider the fruit fly 432 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.480 stuff because I probably went a large chunk of my 433 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.359 adult life without eating a fruit, and then now I'm married. 434 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.079 But they love plants. They love plants too. 435 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:52.440 He doesn't like those either. 436 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.039 He's never seen a banana or a plant bowl upstairs. 437 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.960 Now since I got I've eat more fruits I'm eating. 438 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.400 That's why you don't notice bugs is because you don't 439 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:04.799 have any plants that will. 440 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:06.759 Hoard them, have anything alive. 441 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.559 Yeah, wintertime, it's like, my plants are dying, but there's 442 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.160 no bugs. Summertime, my plants are thriving, but there's bugs. 443 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:14.200 It's just a fruit. 444 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.759 Flies, shockingly, do not care about nerds rope like. They 445 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:18.440 only want like fruit. 446 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.400 They're just like, yeah, all I know is that I 447 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:23.960 have a very fruitful household. 448 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.839 Okay, I got to get into the I keep telling 449 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.799 myself I'm gonna get into the healthy food game. And 450 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:31.160 then I just like, listen, if you. 451 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.480 Want a plant, just get a snake plant. This thing 452 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:35.599 has been sitting at my desk for like six months 453 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.519 and I don't do anything to it, and it's thriving. 454 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:42.680 Look at it like they're called like mother, mother, mother's 455 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.759 tongue or mother in law tongue. 456 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:46.480 Probably can't be killed. 457 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.720 The idea is that their snake looks like that, and 458 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.839 you they're very difficult to kill. 459 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.480 Yeah, you kill a snake plant, then like you should 460 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:02.400 go to therapy like that's it's absorbing your bad mental health. 461 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.759 That's that's the only way you can kill it. 462 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.640 It did its job. 463 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.400 Yeah, exactly. I do believe my plants are tied in 464 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.519 my mental health because like, when I'm not doing well, 465 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:14.160 my plants will start drooping. It's like no, no, no, no, 466 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.160 you need to stay alive. Okay, fine, I'll be in 467 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:17.039 a better mood like. 468 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:19.640 This symbiotic relationship. 469 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.319 Yeah I don't have. Hopefully my cats and my plants. 470 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.119 Hopefully Dan's mental health isn't tied to the mice health 471 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.839 near him because they're dropping like flies over there. 472 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:33.720 They sense cheese and weakness. 473 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:39.039 Yeah, well there's plenty of both of you get a 474 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:42.039 bunch of cheese curts, like cheese curds. Is that a thing? 475 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.599 Like marry you're Midwest? List? I don't. Did you grow 476 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:45.400 up in California? 477 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:48.279 I mean no, I grew up in Seattle. But even 478 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.119 I know cheese curt I mean mainly because of poutine. 479 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.160 But I'm talking about the squeaky ones. 480 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:55.680 Oh no, I don't know. 481 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:58.960 Okay, this is a Wisconsin thing, and like every fucking store, 482 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.640 especially like along the high way going into Wisconsin, it's 483 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.720 just nothing but cheese curds and they are squeaky. Look 484 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:07.799 if you look up squeaky curds like that's so we 485 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:09.440 were looking at like how they're made, and it's I 486 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:09.799 guess they. 487 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.200 Sneaky curds is a very cute name though. 488 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.759 Yeah, good cat, it's it sounds. 489 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:20.680 Like a jazz singer from the thirties given up for 490 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:31.880 squeaky curds. 491 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:31.480 Like squeaks between your teeth, and it's probably super unhealthy, 492 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:36.839 I would imagine, But yeah, yeah, I went into one 493 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:38.319 and we bought a bunch of curds. But then they 494 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:43.519 also sold us three week expired cheese and we didn't 495 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:44.359 realize until we run. 496 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.480 The blue cheese that's the one. 497 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:50.799 She's I don't like bunk, but into it cheesy. And 498 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.079 I looked at the thing and she she didn't act 499 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.319 like it tasted weird or anything. But yeah, I was 500 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:59.440 expired like three weeks ago, and it seemed okay. I 501 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.160 went on campaign of calling the company and everything, and 502 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.920 trying to get a six dollar refund for the expired cheese, 503 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.119 and they refused, so I did not get justice for 504 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:10.640 the expired cheese. But the cheese curds themselves were very 505 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.279 good cheese. 506 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:18.240 I don't know a lot about kurds, but when I 507 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.000 lived in Australia, I had halloumi more than once, which 508 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:23.559 is like one of the very few cheeses that you 509 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.200 can put on a grill like you can. You can 510 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:28.680 grill it on a high flame grill and it won't melt. 511 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.200 It just gets delicious grill marks on it and then 512 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:32.160 you can just eat it. 513 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.279 Is that what we had at in Boston? 514 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.160 Maybe I love halloumi. I'm always trying. I'm always putting 515 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.400 hallumi on on my buds because I think it tastes 516 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:46.279 so good. But it also squeaks, like, so what's up 517 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:46.559 with that? 518 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:50.119 I think like, I think has entered the back of me. 519 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.319 Now uh oh, it's on the chair. 520 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:59.400 They just get taller. Well, I'm sorry about all of 521 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:00.640 the death and your house. 522 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:03.799 It's not like people are pet death. It's just like 523 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.720 gross stuffed death for the most part. 524 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.720 Maybe maybe you just don't realize that you're a Disney princess. 525 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:11.799 That seems unlikely. 526 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.240 I would say, yeah, like a t MoU version. 527 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:20.880 You get like rats, remember when you got the basement. 528 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.839 Lizards, salamanders and a snake. That's true. 529 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.759 Yeah, this sounds more like a Disney thing than anything 530 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:27.559 in my opinion. 531 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.440 Yeah, Dan, the Disney princess, it's just covered in dead mice. 532 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.559 And squeaky cards or whatever. 533 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.440 We went to. So the place we went to Wisconsin's 534 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.519 called Wisconsin Dell's and it's basically a city of water 535 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:45.440 slides and water parks, like it's what they're It's like 536 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.720 the waterslide capital of the world. So it's just like 537 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.319 all these resorts all. 538 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.200 Isn't it freezing half the time? Is it indoors? 539 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.039 No? So that's the thing is they are prepared for 540 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.839 the cold times because it's a lot of them are indoors. 541 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.640 The one the resort we stayed at was half indoors, 542 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.759 half outdoors, and we rode everything on both sides. And 543 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:05.960 it had been forever since I've done a water park. 544 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.839 Have you guys done the one where it's like you 545 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:10.400 stand vertically and they just drop the ground out from 546 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:10.759 under you. 547 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.200 Yes, I have done a water slide like that. It's 548 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:15.880 like a coffin. You like have to be in it 549 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:17.319 with your arms crossed and then. 550 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.559 It just you know, this just made me realize there 551 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:23.640 isn't any water parks in LA that I'm. 552 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.920 Aware, like the perfect place to have a water park, right. 553 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:32.480 We have Disneyland and Universal, but no water parks. Imagine change. 554 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.880 Am I not very farm. 555 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.960 I feel like in Ohio we're like notorious for theme 556 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:40.400 parks and water parks because. 557 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.000 It's just like what you can do in Ohio. 558 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.480 So I was kind of like raised in water parks. 559 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.799 The one where it drops you like you're standing and 560 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.680 the floor just falls terrifying. I saw a girl, you know, 561 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.039 she was young, she was like thirteen, but she was like, 562 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.880 I got it. I'm gonna go. I can't wait. I'm 563 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:00.880 so excited. And then the door go like shuts and 564 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.680 they lock it and she freaked out. 565 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:05.759 She freaked out. She started crying. 566 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.920 She was like, let me out right now, and the 567 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.839 dad was like, you got it, and she was like, 568 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.200 I do not fucking have it open this door, and 569 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.240 she was she lost her mind and they had to 570 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:16.920 unlock it and let her out, and she cried all 571 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:19.559 the way downstairs, and I was like, that is terrifying 572 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.480 just to watch someone else lose their mind. 573 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.160 I mean it is because normally you sit down at 574 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:24.279 the top and you just kind of go at your 575 00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.200 own speed. But like you go into a vertical coffin basically, 576 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:28.880 and the floor is just going to drop out and 577 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:33.240 it's like a complete drop. It's fucking insane. Which when 578 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.279 I think I want a water park that is just 579 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.759 stuff like that and no kid shit, because like this 580 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:38.599 has been notorious. 581 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.599 You're trying to look up what this bride looks like? 582 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:41.400 What's it called? 583 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:43.839 Just look up? God? What There's gotta be a term 584 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:44.079 for it. 585 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:51.880 Water water park, It's like a water park, tube, water. 586 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.039 Park, tube, vertical drop. 587 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.039 Floor drop, coffin, maybe floor drop. 588 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.920 Okay, here I found one awkward drop water slide at 589 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.559 at Aqua Park Aqua Colors on YouTube. Aqua drop water 590 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.599 slide at Aqua Park. That's a lot of aqua, too 591 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.440 many aquas. This is in Croatia. 592 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.640 Okay, oh my god, this is terrifying. 593 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:15.079 Yeah. 594 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.160 Yeah, see how they like make you They make you 595 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.759 stand like a dead person. 596 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.160 With your imasaphobic So I can't do this. 597 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:23.960 But I I love you would never make it. 598 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.079 No, I would die. Oh god, this is awful. 599 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.640 It's cool though, because like on those, you can't have 600 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.640 like little kids on those, and all the other lines 601 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.519 had little kids, and uh, this has traditionally been a 602 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:37.680 childless podcast. Least I don't know if you have kids, 603 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:38.839 but we're. 604 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.440 No only I don't know if we're. 605 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.960 Generally anti we too many plants. 606 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.119 I was thinking while I was there that we've all 607 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.319 played Expedition thirty three that I would love a situation 608 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.279 if we could like institute like a reverse gomage, so 609 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.680 like you know how it counts down from one hundred 610 00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:58.519 in the game, if we're all one year old, if 611 00:26:58.519 --> 00:26:59.880 I just paint one on a. 612 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.440 Mo I also just want I also just want old 613 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.960 old people to be gone. Actually, let's just leave people between. 614 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.400 He goes to a double ended gomage. 615 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.039 So yeah, just close it in. 616 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:15.880 At the same time, and then we kind of close 617 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.640 in until everyone says, cool, yeah. 618 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:24.319 Exactly, the old double guma. 619 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.319 Listen. I have a story that I'm like working on 620 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.960 is a bit because I thought it was so funny 621 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.200 because it's like I have friends now that have kids 622 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.400 and whatnot, you know, whatever, they live in areas, they 623 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.079 can afford houses. But I went to like a family 624 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.359 like get together a few weeks ago and it was 625 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:42.000 like ten adults. I was probably one of the oldest 626 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.279 ones there. And then there was just one kid. It 627 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.480 was my friend's kid, and we were all standing around 628 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.759 talking and the kid like blined it to me and 629 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.319 grab my arm. He goes, do you want to come 630 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.400 play with my Spider Man collection? And I was like, 631 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.200 oh my god, he thinks I'm a kid, like I am. 632 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.440 I am not. I am not giving off adult vibes 633 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.559 to children still, or. 634 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.759 Do the kids just think that adults care about that 635 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.039 stuff or he. 636 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.240 It was like it was like ten people between the 637 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.160 ages of thirty and forty, so I'm right in the middle. 638 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.519 And this kid like looked at every adult and just 639 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:18.200 went to me and was like, that's definitely still a child. 640 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:18.839 Did you check it out? 641 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.920 Of course I did. I was like, yeah, that was the. 642 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.519 Most interesting part of the Spider Man collection he just had. 643 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.359 He just had a Spider Man. It was a Spider 644 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.839 Man toys. This kid doesn't no value, you know, he 645 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.720 doesn't know he hasn't been on Prime one studio to 646 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:33.400 find like an eight hundred dollars statue. 647 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.759 You know, were you like this collection sucks to me? 648 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.519 He makes yourself an actual You want to. 649 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.279 See my eight hundred dollars statue of Virgil from double 650 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:42.079 may cry. 651 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.160 That Virgil or five? Which one are we talking about? Oh? Nice, 652 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:47.880 I love Virgil. 653 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.200 It's thirty inches tall, taller than that kid. But it 654 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.640 was just very in the moment, like, yeah, I do 655 00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.400 not give off babysitter parent vibes at all. I give 656 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.759 off like this is a giant child hanging out with 657 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:01.680 these adults. 658 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.240 I maybe sat once when I was younger, and I 659 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.920 got fired. I guess because of two incidents. One of 660 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.559 them was I ate all of their boxes of cheese. 661 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.039 It's during one thing, and the mom got mad that 662 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.200 I ate all the cheeses by myself. The other was, 663 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:16.920 I guess you're not supposed to do this with kids. 664 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.799 This kid and Nick was really young and I was 665 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.359 second all of the neighborhood pool and he was terrified 666 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.000 of bees, and I thought it'd be funny if as 667 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.079 we walked to the pool, I was like, nif there's 668 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.839 a pea on your shoulder, and he freaked the fuck 669 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:33.440 out and screamed and told his mom, you're not supposed 670 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.119 to do that cats if your babysitting. 671 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.720 No, how old was this child that you like? 672 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.480 Kids? Probably I don't know six, I was probably sixteen. 673 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.680 I don't know he was like six. 674 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.680 Kid ages, but I probably older myself. 675 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:49.000 I am not. 676 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.039 It's a child, Michael. How old could he be? Nine? Like, 677 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.319 we don't know and we have no concept of like 678 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:55.240 child age. 679 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.039 Hair. I sat in my life. My first baby ever 680 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.599 held was my knees five years ago, and I held 681 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:03.559 her like this, So I was like, I should not 682 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.920 be around a child like this is Yeah, this is 683 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:07.960 not I hear a baby. 684 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.000 I learned about the head thing where they like, you know, 685 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:11.519 you got to put a hand behind the head so 686 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:11.799 they don't. 687 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.119 Yeah, So I held her like this, I present to 688 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.559 you baby, So yeah, no kids for me. Just if 689 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.920 I have another kid, it's gonna be another cat, that's it. 690 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:22.519 Yeah. 691 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.119 I had I invited a girlfriend uh to get uh 692 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.519 like basically to go to a club with me, but 693 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.480 it had it's twenty one and up usually and you 694 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.480 can invite children, but you have to get it approved 695 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.640 in advance. So I called and I said, Hi, I'm 696 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:37.960 meeting someone and I want their kid to be able 697 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.799 to come to and they said, okay, no problem. How 698 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.240 old is the kid? And I was like, well, he's 699 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:47.079 walking and he's talking, and he's got like little shorts 700 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.160 with pockets in it, so he's got to be like ten. 701 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.160 And they were like, no worries, and so they write 702 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.279 it down and she shows up and they're like, hi, Hi, 703 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:55.160 is this your kid? 704 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.319 And she's like yes, and they're like. 705 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.200 We we were told he was ten old. 706 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:01.480 Is how old is this kid? 707 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.559 And she was like he's three And I was like, 708 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.759 three year olds can walk and talk and wear shorts 709 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.279 with like pockets in them. I had no call. 710 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:17.200 That's exactly what a toddler does. Toddlers have such unnecessary pockets. 711 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:24.519 Embarrassed liked toddlers nowadays have like phones probably like I feel. 712 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.319 Like my niece has texted me and she's like seven. 713 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:28.319 I'm like, no, they. 714 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.119 Can play roadblocks. I can tell you that. Maybe not legally, but. 715 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.240 They can finally, but they can play untitled goose game. 716 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:41.160 I know that, yeah, which I think that makes the 717 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.119 untitled Goose game people they're making. So they're the ones 718 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:47.119 making that big walk game that yeah, that looks Listen. 719 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.119 My first cell phone, I got I was a note. 720 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.440 I got no Kia phone when I was like in 721 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.880 fifth grade because I played soccer and that thing was 722 00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.559 a brick. That was a weapon. You could understand. 723 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.480 Why did soccer give you a no key a phone? 724 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.559 Because I played gymnastics and I didn't get a phone 725 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:04.480 my parents. 726 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.759 My parents are drug addicts, and they were like, listen, 727 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:09.119 we don't know we're going to pick you up, so 728 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.440 just call us my parents. 729 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.799 That's so sad but pol but like you know. 730 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.519 Like I still hang out with them. They come to 731 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.440 my shows like no, like I'm. 732 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.119 House loaded, and they don't give a ship what I know. 733 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.319 They're just like Dan, they're just holding a drink, Like, 734 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.160 just call me when you want me to pick you up. 735 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.440 That was my first phone, and that was a brick. 736 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.240 That was a freaking brick back then, and I was 737 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.880 like but I wasn't allowed to text until I was 738 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.480 in high school, which was really annoying. So I had 739 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.759 a phone. You had a phone for like eight years 740 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.960 of my life and didn't get text messages until I 741 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.720 was like like a junior in high school. 742 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.799 I was afraid that the text stuff would like per 743 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.319 text charge you, So I think for the first year 744 00:32:58.359 --> 00:32:59.960 or two of having a phone, I was afraid to text. 745 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.039 Yeah, in the beginning of the world. They did and it. 746 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.240 Was like when he sent a text, can you imagine 747 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.160 how how bigger bills would be right now? 748 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:07.880 No? 749 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.200 I mean you just send like one really long email text, 750 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.640 right like, Hello Dan, It's been so nice to talk 751 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:15.000 to you. 752 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.559 Game fucking sucked like writing. 753 00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.559 Also, I wasn't say. What I forget about is when 754 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.119 you travel internationally, I'm like, am I allowed message and 755 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:27.599 call people and whatnot? And it's like, oh yeah, you 756 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.440 just use like WhatsApp or Wi Fi calling and it's 757 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.720 like free. Like it's like, oh yeah, we live in 758 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.079 twenty twenty five. 759 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.720 WhatsApp with like I've only used it when I've gone 760 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.039 like games Com or Japan or something with like your group, 761 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.119 and oh just do WhatsApp? Like is that a much 762 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.079 bigger thing overseas than it is here? 763 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:45.759 Oh? 764 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:46.079 Yeah? 765 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:46.839 Yeah. 766 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.480 I used WhatsApp and Telegram to buy shrooms like that 767 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.480 was that was the only time I ever used it. 768 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.279 And now everybody listens. Yeah, and everyone who uses everyone 769 00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.400 who's like in Europe and like Asia, they use WhatsApp. 770 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.119 Give this shroom guy a plug? 771 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:08.519 Yeah, shout out to my shroom guy, Scott, that's name 772 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.119 right in a few years. In fact, when we used 773 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:14.519 to because you know, Northwest people like it's easy to 774 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.559 find shrooms. And when I came home a couple of 775 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.920 years ago and I was driving around our whole town, 776 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.679 my dad was like, oh, man, like, I just hate 777 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.760 how they keep building these apartments everywhere. I was like 778 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.119 me too. He goes, you used to be able to 779 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.119 pick good shrooms right here, and I was like, oh that. 780 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.119 You don't care about gentrification. You just care about losing 781 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.480 your good shroom piles. 782 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.239 Okay, wild Like oh yeah. 783 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.719 I mean come on, man, the climate there you go? 784 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:40.480 Are you? 785 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.039 I thought they were like Oregon in Washington or something. 786 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.960 They're decriminalized now, ah, gotcha. 787 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.119 Okay, you can still order them, but I could not 788 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.960 imagine picking a random shroom on the ground and chomping 789 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.360 it up. I buy everything, and it's like, this is 790 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:57.360 one hundred milligrams. 791 00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:00.639 Listening stream guy went to college in an organic chemistry. Okay, 792 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:01.559 I trust him. 793 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.119 You're really this shroom guy. 794 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.800 It's like when someone's like I studied psychology or I 795 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.360 went to school for community, it doesn't mean anything to me. 796 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.400 Is what I'm saying. 797 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.599 I got curious about shrooms again for a while because like, 798 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.760 I've done stuff harder than weed three times, and they 799 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.280 were all first semester of college, and the first two 800 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:26.559 were shrooms and weed too. I did the weed I did, 801 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.960 so I'm okay with weed. Now I'm a very anxious 802 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.880 person typically, like weed I can typically deal with. But 803 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.239 like mushrooms were like my first panic attacks ever, Like 804 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.800 I never knew what a panic attack was until mushrooms. 805 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.800 But I remember that first half being like, this is 806 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.639 the best feeling I've ever had. I want I should 807 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.199 do these all the time. And then it was like 808 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.960 I'm in hell, so I was. 809 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:47.159 I mean, that's me every day. 810 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:53.920 So right around noon is where I freak out. Every day. 811 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.519 I'm at capital of day and I'm like, I want 812 00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:56.840 to die. 813 00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:01.400 Actually it's just with my shrooms are just in general. 814 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:04.760 Just in general, you know, I mean, four cookies on 815 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.159 the stream, I'm gonna regret it the minute we're done. 816 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.840 So I do have a curiosity about Like, Okay, I'm 817 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.119 forty one now, it has been it was over half 818 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.280 my life ago I did them the last time. I 819 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.559 think I'm in a much better spot mentally and everything 820 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:19.360 than I was back then, so like, but I still 821 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.360 I've always there was that period after I had the 822 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.840 panic attack mushroom stuff that like any like I had 823 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:25.400 my wisdom teeth taking out, I didn't take any pain 824 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:26.440 medication or anything for it. 825 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:27.679 It's shrooms. 826 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.559 Well, the idea of being high freaked me out so much, 827 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.440 so like all my friends smoked weed all the time 828 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.360 and the drugs, and like I was just so terrified 829 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.280 of like even getting a whiff of it. But I 830 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.239 am curious because it was really fun for that first half, 831 00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.239 and I'm I wonder if I would be able to 832 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.400 like enjoy them now, if I kind of ease myself in. 833 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.239 I think the shroom technology has advanced in the last 834 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:50.920 twenty years. 835 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.159 There's been great advancements in shrooms, and in fact, I 836 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.679 think what's mostly interesting about like my partaking in this 837 00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.880 type of stuff now is that you can microdose with 838 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.679 like full control. And I don't know your microdose experience, 839 00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.800 but like it's so fun to essentially have like so 840 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.360 little that you're not actually high, but you'll be like 841 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.159 my mood is elevated, and I feel so great in 842 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:15.719 a social situation, microdocing shrooms can take away all your anxiety. 843 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.840 My dude, microdose shrooms like for half the pandemic. And 844 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.880 then I started streaming. I was like it changed my life. 845 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.639 Question about that because like my understanding was that that 846 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.880 was something you had to do like every day for 847 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.119 a period of time. Where it's like my mom told 848 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:33.000 me she has started doing it. 849 00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.119 Yeah, I had like a hundred shroom caps. 850 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.360 Okay, and did you do it every day like consistently? Yeah? Okay. Now, 851 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.320 the way my mom describes it, and I don't know 852 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.960 if she's really following the label correctly, is she will 853 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.079 just do it like, oh, we were at the lake 854 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.679 this weekend and I microdosed, and yeah, you don't have to. 855 00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.800 Do it every day. I just did, Okay, so. 856 00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.039 Every day for like tho chacters would recommend that you 857 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.079 don't micro everything. 858 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.280 I wasn't that long. I literally did it for I 859 00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.400 think maybe three weeks and then I like because I 860 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.199 was like not working, and I was like fuck it. 861 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.519 I got a bunch of shroom caps, Like I had 862 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.400 a bunch of Birdingman and friends. They'd come back and 863 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.119 they'd be like, do you want to leftover drugs? Like 864 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:15.920 it was like a gift to me, and so someone 865 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.920 gave me a bunch of shroom caps and it was 866 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.480 really nice. It was very relaxing, you know, get a 867 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.400 little bit of a body high, and then now I 868 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.360 would just take them occasionally when I was like hang 869 00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:24.920 out with people. 870 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.840 Is there a down to Like why wouldn't you just 871 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.800 do it every day? If it's like, is there any 872 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:29.599 downside to it? 873 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.320 I mean not really, but I mean maybe I was like, 874 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.639 maybe I shouldn't be going through all these shroom caps 875 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:38.039 so quickly. I would just take a lot of baths. 876 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.480 That was really it. It was just like every time I 877 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:41.960 was on shrooms, I was like, you know what sounds 878 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:42.719 great as a bath? 879 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.639 Your water bill was through the room. 880 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.800 Honestly, don't think that there's like many downsides to microdosing personally, 881 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.119 like even for someone like me, Dan and you and 882 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.000 I have talked about this before, but sometimes like if 883 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.840 we do get high, you can get too high and 884 00:38:58.880 --> 00:38:59.840 that's actually very stressed. 885 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.719 We can talk about this stuff on this podcast, oh podcast, 886 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:09.320 Like no really, yeah, we're only talking about boring nerd stuff. 887 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.280 Oh is boring nerd stuff to me? 888 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.679 This is like to me more controllable than smoking pot. 889 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.960 Like when I get high, I still am like, uh oh, 890 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.400 don't go too hard because you'll get paranoid and you'll 891 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.119 get really weird. When i'm microdose, I'm like, nothing. 892 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.039 Bad can happen to me. 893 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.320 Well, also, as long as you know your dosage. 894 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.119 Yeah, yeah, Well weed's weird too, because at least with shrooms, 895 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.800 you're like, oh, like I know exactly what this type 896 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.159 of shroom will do to my body and how much 897 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.360 of it to take. But even shrooms, even weeds, like 898 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.159 do you want indicca, you want sativa? And then you're like, okay, 899 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.320 what percentage of it is this? Like sometimes I'll get 900 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.559 like a mixture or a hybrid and I'll be like, okay, 901 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.599 this made me. This made me nauseous. This one gave 902 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.719 me a head Like It's like same thing with gummies 903 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.360 or like any kind of edible. I'm I'm like, I'm 904 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.199 always very wary of it because I'm like, I don't 905 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.119 know how this my body's gonna react to this. Usually 906 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.360 it's always a good time, but sometimes I just get 907 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.760 a headache, or sometimes it'll smell really bad, Like I'll 908 00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.960 smell the weed will like stick the smell of the 909 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.920 intensity of the weed will just stick and I can 910 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.159 still smell it the next day, and it just smells 911 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:21.960 like a fart. 912 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.079 True as far as it gets too high. 913 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.400 Yeah, shroom doesn't smell like a fart. Okay, that's like 914 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.119 if I get really strong weed, I can smell it 915 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.239 when it's in the container. 916 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.639 Still, I've been having that, Like myself is all like 917 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:34.639 like I have half of this left now, and it's 918 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.639 like all crusted in there, and I can smell it. 919 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.800 So I can hear it bubbling and I can smell it, 920 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.280 but no smoke comes out of there, and I I 921 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.559 feel like I'm gonna I search for it. Yeah, I do. 922 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.000 I hold the thing and it I can hear bubbling, 923 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.280 but nothing comes out. I shoved a paper clip in there. 924 00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:50.639 Try to spoiled the top in water. 925 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.400 I'm like an old person the top of the cartridge. 926 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.920 Yeah, just the glass part, getting hot water to loosen 927 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.960 it up. It worked. Maybe, don't listen to my advice. 928 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:02.880 I mean, I've tried a lot of other stuff. 929 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:08.400 You practice. It's like you got to decrystallize it, you 930 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.400 know what I mean. I'll try that, yeah, yeah, and 931 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.480 then you're gonna blow your house up because exploded. 932 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:21.159 There you go, Lily six mice at your funeral. He 933 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.079 was a good man. 934 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.400 I had like, oh my, I'm not docs my shroom 935 00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.199 guy obviously, But the reason why I use Telegram and 936 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.159 WhatsApp is like somebody like created a website where you 937 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.199 could buy acid and shrooms and like all sorts of 938 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.800 d MT, all sorts of stuff, and it would sell 939 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.880 it as like T shirts and then you go on 940 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.840 the Telegram and realize the T shirt was actually this thing, 941 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.639 this thing. So you'd order these T shirts online and 942 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.719 it would be actually shrooms, I know, and that's and 943 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.760 there's a lot of them, Like this is like one 944 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.480 of probably millions out there. But I was like all 945 00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.360 I can think goes, wow, that's beautiful. Drug. Drug dealing 946 00:41:58.400 --> 00:41:59.440 has really gone far. 947 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.440 Did you get a T shirt too? 948 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:07.519 No? When the shirts turn in there and like the 949 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.920 shirts were like nice, they were like tied I shirts 950 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.079 with like designs on them, and obviously they were just 951 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.639 created as like a front. But then you'd have to 952 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.920 Venmo some weird guy and then in the mail I 953 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.800 would just get a box of shroom chocolates and like so. 954 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:20.719 You don't get a T shirt. 955 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.199 No, and I would be like great lack of T 956 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:25.440 shirt though, you know. 957 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.440 Very it just makes me like think of every time 958 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.920 when you watch like super Troopers or something like that 959 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.280 and they're like opening up the truck and there's like 960 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.880 jars of apple sauce in these boxes or something, right 961 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.079 like something that's like, yeah, I'm just I'm just an 962 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.840 apple sauce salesman, like leave me alone. The apple sauce 963 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.400 is a shit ton of drugs, you know. And it's 964 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.039 just like in this front situation, they were like, we 965 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.079 got another T shirt sale and a guy like Chuck 966 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.039 some shrooms and like. 967 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.639 Squeaky Kurds or whatever. 968 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.159 He does sound like a mushroom guy who all so 969 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.159 really rocks the sacks, which is so funny when you sorry, 970 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:06.039 I'm just gonna. 971 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:07.519 Say, yeah, mature, you go to a fire Escape summer 972 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:08.800 store and get our T shirts. 973 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:17.280 It's definitely not a front drugs I yeah. 974 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.760 And in the Dead Mice a bunch of sh. 975 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.920 Though technically fungus can grow. Fungus does grow from dead things, 976 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.039 so technically there could be a shroom at some point 977 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:32.639 in it's life. 978 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 979 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.280 Plant the dead mouse in a pot of soil and 980 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.320 from the dead mouse, the shrooms will grow and then 981 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.280 you get mad high. I actually think that's a little beautiful. 982 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.840 Like it is morbid and maybe fucked up, but like 983 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.159 another part of it is like, my dude, like, if 984 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:51.280 you're gonna we're. 985 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.400 Not even halfway through this and we're talking about planting 986 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.239 dead bodies to grow mushrooms. 987 00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.679 Dead mice in your house, why not star a shroom 988 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.320 farm out of their corpses. In fact, I actually think 989 00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:05.480 that would be a really good will and like last 990 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.159 will and testament is like don't burn me, which apparently 991 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.440 takes a lot of fuel. Yeah, I've been like learning 992 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.719 about this for some weird reason, which is like you know, 993 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.440 like when you get uh what's it called, like flame 994 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:23.159 flamed up into ashes whatever, And when you get flamed 995 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.480 up into ashes, I'm forgetting high. 996 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.159 In my extensive research, if you guys flamed up in ashes, 997 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.320 they have to do it at a really high temperature 998 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:38.440 or you smell like you your body stinks like burning flesh, 999 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:39.960 and it like disrupts the. 1000 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:46.719 Town and the people nearby like yeah, down, it smells 1001 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.320 like dead dam like. 1002 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.639 A dead body factory. It's the body. 1003 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.840 So they incinerate you at a very high high temperature 1004 00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.239 so that you go up real quick and there's no 1005 00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.039 dead like burn skin smell. 1006 00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.199 That makes sense. I would rather if I probably get cremated. 1007 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.239 I'd rather they do that than like su vid me, 1008 00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:07.960 you know, right. 1009 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.480 But what I'm saying is is that that takes. But 1010 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.599 those are only two options. That is, like a really 1011 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.440 high temperature costs a lot of fuel, so it's not 1012 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.400 very environmentally friendly. But neither is burial because they put 1013 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.400 you in this like fucking box and they'll be like 1014 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.280 nothing can get in here. But it's like, isn't that 1015 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.599 the point is that, like eventually you decompose. 1016 00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:31.000 My dad this is so random, but my dad, well 1017 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.199 he works at a Muslim cemetery. He's white and Catholic, 1018 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:36.400 but he works at a Muslim cemetery as like his 1019 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.039 retirement hobby, and. 1020 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:39.440 He like digs twenty five. 1021 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.920 Yeah, he's dig's graves. That's his thing. He's an honorary Muslim, 1022 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.280 but that's his thing. That's literally his thing. It's like 1023 00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.000 it's crazy, but he's like, yeah, I buried a baby 1024 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.320 today and I'm like all right, cool, like happy Tuesday. 1025 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.239 My parents are very morbid but he he was talking 1026 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.199 about how like Muslims like they don't coffins, like they 1027 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.559 just wrap the bodies and blankets and then they put 1028 00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:05.400 them in the ground. And I'm like that's better for 1029 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.719 the environment. It is, but it's also like this is what, dad, 1030 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.039 do you go to therapy? And he's like, now, I 1031 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.519 just like doing this. I'm like, okay, all right, why 1032 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.280 he makes sense doing it? Yeah, he's been doing it 1033 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:17.599 for like ten years now. 1034 00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.239 You said hobby and that kind of weirded me out. 1035 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.920 Yeah, it is his hobby. He volunteers because like, the 1036 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:25.840 guy who owns a cemetery is like very old and 1037 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.719 has dementia. My dad helped him out one day. And 1038 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.320 now ten years later, my dad's on the bluffed directors 1039 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.159 for Muslims and my dad I helped out. 1040 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.320 This guy with dementia. Turns out I was born to 1041 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:36.480 dig graves. 1042 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:37.119 Especially. 1043 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.840 Yeah, so he volunteered this. He's not getting paid for it. 1044 00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.880 I mean I think he gets paid sometimes. 1045 00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.079 But like that was like this is more sweet or concerning. 1046 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.800 It's a little bit of bull It's endearing but also spooky. 1047 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.320 But I also have very morbid way of thinking. So 1048 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.840 I'm like this makes sense. He's just acting out on this. 1049 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.719 Would it be environment good to like just like if 1050 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.679 they just threw your body in a and the ocean 1051 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.679 and let fish eat it, like that wouldn't cost any money, right, 1052 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:08.639 Like you're gonna eat it. 1053 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.199 I mean, it's always fascinating how it's like you guys 1054 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:12.840 watch Dexter. 1055 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.280 I've seen the first like four. 1056 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:18.280 He would just throw them in a bag in the 1057 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.119 ocean and always bothered me. Some'm like, God, what a waste? 1058 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.599 Like just what I mean, here's the thing. No one 1059 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.599 found the bodies. They found the bags. So it's like, 1060 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.440 if you're already gonna if you were planning on nobody 1061 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.840 seeing the bodies, why not just throw the bodies in there? 1062 00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.199 Oh right, So what is the point so the fish 1063 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:35.800 can eat them? 1064 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.400 It's the point of the bag. 1065 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.199 The play of the bags? Is it for weight? Like 1066 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.280 it's just like if you knew no one was gonna 1067 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:43.960 find them, because it's like if they found a bunch 1068 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.760 of bats. They found the bags, and they're like the. 1069 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.679 Bodies float because the you know, ogin and the lungs 1070 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.400 and ships rocks. 1071 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.159 It's fine, just a bunch of rocks. 1072 00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.480 Yeah, got pump them full of rocks before. 1073 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.519 You throw in the ocean. It's fine. 1074 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.719 I don't I agree though, I mean, I think that 1075 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:11.000 is also much more environmentally friendly than like putting them 1076 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:11.559 in a bag. 1077 00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:13.320 But that's just where my mind. I was like, God, 1078 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.480 what a waste of bags and plastic. You could have 1079 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.320 just waste of bags murdering people. And I'm like, what 1080 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.320 all these bags, man, you're just polluting the ocean. 1081 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:28.360 Yeah, they've got like one of those you. 1082 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:33.360 Know, some turtles bottle of things on them. I know 1083 00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:37.239 you're murdering people, but you're you're also creating environmental waste. 1084 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:43.920 Okay, I think the most environmentally friendly thing is probably 1085 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.400 just dumping your body in the ocean, because the animals 1086 00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.800 will get you. They will they will pick at you, 1087 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.519 and the crabs will get you, and they will they 1088 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.679 will like eat your bones, like every part of you 1089 00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:55.079 will go. 1090 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.039 Back a risk. Remember risk the cats the cartoon, how 1091 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.400 she said she just wanted doesn't Yeah, she just want 1092 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.639 to give her house to her cats. That's the thing. 1093 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.559 When I'm like seventy, Like these cats will be dead 1094 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.519 before I die, hopefully. But if I'm like seventy years 1095 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.239 old and I have new cats, I'm like, just give 1096 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.039 them to my cats. My cats can eat me. No, 1097 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.719 give them food your dead body. 1098 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.079 I used to do a podcast with a wrestler named 1099 00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.480 Biggie and he was he was adamant that when he dies, 1100 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.400 he wants to like just drive out to like a 1101 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.440 rural road and just you know, two people grab the arms, 1102 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.320 two people grab the legs and just kind of like 1103 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:28.880 toss them into a ditch and just like he's dead. 1104 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.880 He doesn't give a shit. Would that be illegal? Like 1105 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.000 if it was like if it was requested by the deceasion. 1106 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.159 It wasn't his will. I don't know. 1107 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.079 Yeah, can you just even if it's in their will, 1108 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.599 you can't do something illegal? And I have examples of this. 1109 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.599 But is it illegal to just put a body on 1110 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:45.360 the side of the road. 1111 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.039 Yes, it was, Yes, Yeah, you didn't kill them. 1112 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:51.440 He dies of natural causes. 1113 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.039 It's not about the fact that it's what he did 1114 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.880 or did not want. It's the fact that, like, society 1115 00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.440 cannot have dead men on the sides. 1116 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.960 Of the ca because thinking about how many people, what 1117 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.639 if a lot of people requested that, then we just 1118 00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:04.760 have so many dead men. 1119 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.719 Society does not allow for dead men to just be 1120 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:09.760 chucked over a bridge. 1121 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.400 Even dead women, though that's different, like we never question it. 1122 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.800 They have two thirds of a vote, like chrome in 1123 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:22.159 the ditch. I think like Niagara Falls is like this 1124 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.000 really famous place that I grew up near and I 1125 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:26.719 was always told as a child, a lot of people 1126 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.800 want to have their ashes scattered in the falls. 1127 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:33.159 Like they based bring them back up. 1128 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.840 They're like, put me in a tin can, chuck me 1129 00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.119 over the edge. That's how I want to go. They 1130 00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.480 want to be cremated and then thrown in just for 1131 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.599 the record, not the body, but like the remains. And 1132 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.559 it's illegal, and it's like on the website like you 1133 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.559 cannot put ashes in this water. Stop it, and they 1134 00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:54.000 like basically prevent family members from throwing their loved ones 1135 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:55.280 ashes into the water. 1136 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.880 That's that's the code Grandma thing. Do you know about that? 1137 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.599 I only know this because of Mike Manati. I now work. 1138 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.039 I now own a company with the biggest Disney old possible. 1139 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.079 And your Code Grandma is a thing at Disney World 1140 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.559 where like people wet on like the Haunted Mansion ride 1141 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.719 or whatever, and so like if you hear Code Grandma 1142 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.559 at Disney, that means someone spread their ashes in the park. 1143 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.559 That's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like listen, just put my 1144 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.519 ashes in front of a taco bell. I don't care, 1145 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.199 like I'm going to share you. 1146 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:31.760 Yeah, I'm dead. 1147 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.480 Figure out what you want to do. You want to 1148 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.360 like plant me as it, smoke me on a spliff, 1149 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.760 I don't care, you know, just do whatever you want. 1150 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:42.960 At this point, I don't care. Man, I'm out of here. 1151 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.119 I've done. I'm done making decisions like. 1152 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.440 Well, what's interesting is if you guys don't have a 1153 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.440 last will and testament, this can actually be used in 1154 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.960 testimonials to make sure that you do get what you want. 1155 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.119 Because it's nice time. 1156 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:55.159 Officially said it. 1157 00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:01.719 Yeah, chuck me in the ocean. No cremation and nope, 1158 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.119 don't fucking just put me in a box, like, let 1159 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.320 me be decomposed. I want to give back to the 1160 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.440 earth for God's sake. 1161 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.679 Yeah, somebody put me in Elon Musk's tea so I 1162 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.719 can haunt his body, your. 1163 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.800 Whole your whole dead corpse is gonna come up with 1164 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.159 the I think the reason why his chest is so 1165 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.599 bareled is because he came up with the technology to 1166 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:25.519 stay alive. 1167 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.960 For too long. So I'm gonna be like, he's gonna 1168 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:29.920 be like two hundred years old when I die, And 1169 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.800 I'm like, can someone please let me haunt this motherfucker. 1170 00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.800 Like he's he's got a blood void. 1171 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:39.199 When I die. Just make my ashes somehow affect billionaires. 1172 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.960 That's all I want. Just put me in their tea, 1173 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.880 let me hant. I'm sure I can haunt them in 1174 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:46.719 some way. Leave me on their front porch. Let it 1175 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.920 rat get to something. Just put it in something. 1176 00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.639 Maybe stick that you upset somebody. 1177 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.599 Stick it in. Wait, put it in their water pipes. 1178 00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.559 So when they turn on their bedet, my ashes go 1179 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.159 right in their asshole. That's it, That's what I want. 1180 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:07.840 There, you go, I'm gonna play your dead corpse in 1181 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.039 one of their like yacht engines. That way, when they 1182 00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.239 turn it on, you'll just get mangled in there a corpse. 1183 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:17.239 They'll be like, wait, it's so hard to get her 1184 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.159 out of there. There's chunks everywhere. 1185 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.719 Also all my head, Tie, Mary can have it. There 1186 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:28.440 you go, there you go, you can hi ngel statue. 1187 00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:33.639 There you go, yes, hell, yeah, Tie, that's fine. 1188 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.480 Yeah, perfect. 1189 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:38.760 You guys every day. 1190 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:40.079 Sure, let's talk about it. 1191 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.239 Let's talk about it. Let's do the thing. 1192 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.480 Welcome back. We are getting into the gaming section of 1193 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.719 the show, which is actually do that's that's I. 1194 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:54.920 Believe this is also exactly how Mike does it. 1195 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.639 I believe it's the gaming section of the show and 1196 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.440 we're gonna get into it. But Dan, you also came 1197 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.639 in and you were like, Mary got talk What did 1198 00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:05.480 you want to talk to me about? 1199 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:06.800 When? When did I say that? 1200 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.480 Literally, when you came in, you were like, I got something, 1201 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:10.840 I got something? 1202 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:12.719 Oh no, it was one of my games that it's 1203 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.119 a game. I want to say, Well, we'll get to it. 1204 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.400 I want to suggest something. 1205 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:18.559 Yes, yes, yes, we'll get I understand you want to 1206 00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:19.039 start with that. 1207 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:19.599 I could do that. 1208 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.440 I thought you found a third mouse quite frankly. 1209 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.280 No, no, I just have a game. I note like 1210 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:26.159 with confidence. I know you're going to like. 1211 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.119 Okay, let's start with it. I'm really cool. 1212 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:30.519 So you got you got a game for me? 1213 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.159 Wheel World? Have you heard of this? 1214 00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.039 Tell wheel like a driving wheel Wheel? 1215 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:41.079 It's a it's a bicycling game called wheel World. Is it? 1216 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:41.239 Is it? 1217 00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:42.960 Real world for bicycles? 1218 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.039 So I don't know what that was an intentional thing, 1219 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.400 But every time I've been telling friends about this. They've 1220 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:51.039 been like, oh, the wheel World, you know, it sounds 1221 00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.480 like that, but no, it's it's just called the wheel 1222 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.639 World and is the best way I can describe it 1223 00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.119 is Breadth of the Wild Burnout Paradise, which I don't 1224 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:00.840 know if that does anything to your brains like it 1225 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.559 does to mine, but I like the sound of that 1226 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.199 a lot. And it's a shorter game. It's like five 1227 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:07.960 six hours, miss seven or eight if you want to, like, 1228 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:08.800 you know, one hundred percent. 1229 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:09.599 I love a short game. 1230 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:11.679 It is. Look it up. Look at the art style. 1231 00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.639 It's really nice cell shaded art style. This track is incredible, 1232 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:18.760 just as very kind of like low fi, really chill 1233 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:23.079 art style. It is open world bicycling game where you 1234 00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.159 were going around and the Breath of Wild thing is 1235 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.719 apt because you are going around to like bell shrines. 1236 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.559 So you're finding these shrines, you go up, you ring 1237 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.880 the bell. It you know, kind of fills in part 1238 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.400 of the map like in Breath the Wild, and it'll 1239 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.519 show you different different races and things. You can meet 1240 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.800 characters that will show you where different bike parts are. 1241 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.320 So basically you're just going around. You're kind of like 1242 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.679 outfitting your bike. With different gear and things like that. 1243 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.599 There's only like four stats. It doesn't go like too 1244 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:49.320 deep into it or anything. But yeah, it's just really 1245 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:53.320 chill races. You know, you'll find like riders on the 1246 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:55.599 road and certain ones will be glowing and if you 1247 00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.679 ring your bell you can do on the spot one 1248 00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.280 on one race against them. And it is it's just 1249 00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.480 this kind of breath of the wild, expanding the map, 1250 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:05.360 exploring open world situation where you're always on the bike. 1251 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:06.960 You can hit why to kind of get off and 1252 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.199 walk your bike and talk to NPCs and talk to 1253 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.519 like you know, shop owners and things like that. But 1254 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:15.280 it's very, very straightforward. It's by the mess Hof, the 1255 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.760 team that did Nithog and Ninthog too. Yet I came 1256 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.199 out to as of this recording it came out. Oh 1257 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:23.599 so yeah it's out now. 1258 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.440 And Anna Produce published it. 1259 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.199 Wow. It was good. 1260 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.519 It's awesome. It's really really good. And like you'll get 1261 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.800 like certain like legendary parts parts for your bike that 1262 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.320 will give you things where it's like, well, okay, you've 1263 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.039 got a boost meter, which I like any game of 1264 00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.719 the boost meter, and legendary parts will make it so 1265 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.440 you like kind of passively, are always getting boosts and 1266 00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.760 things like that, and during the races and stuff, your 1267 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:45.960 name is Kat. It was girling Cat Kat, and like 1268 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.000 you know, there's like four objectives per race where it's like, okay, 1269 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.840 beat this time, get top three, and then it's like 1270 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.159 get all the floating letters and finish and the floating letters. 1271 00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.519 That's actually that's exactly though. Like what I was telling you, 1272 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.000 I really like to do in the Mario Kart Open World, 1273 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.400 which is I was like getting those power up things 1274 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.920 and then I was doing whatever it is that they 1275 00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.000 said I had to do, which was usually get to 1276 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.800 the end in this much time. It was very difficult 1277 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.320 and challenging, and I would have to do them like 1278 00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:15.559 three or four times to get them done in time. 1279 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:17.760 And it gave me a time too, which I love. 1280 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.280 This sounds like I love little mini challenges that change 1281 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.320 it up all the time, so I'm never like getting 1282 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.280 bored or stagnant with the gameplay. It's just like, yeah, 1283 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.199 we're mixing it up. Get your bike to this area, 1284 00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:32.440 go through these hoops or rings in time like this 1285 00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:35.159 is absolutely up my alley, Dan. It's so cool. 1286 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:36.880 And it's one of those games too where it's like 1287 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.760 the soundtrack is it's not just great for like, while 1288 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.400 I'm playing the video game, it's like I actually want 1289 00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:43.320 I was like looking up the artists and stuff. Who 1290 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.920 did the soundtrack. The main one I think is June 1291 00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.920 joo N. It's a songwriter from I Forget Where, But 1292 00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:54.840 just incredible, really just chill soundtrack. Just a great kind 1293 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:56.800 of before bed and just relax, get a little high 1294 00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:01.840 or something. Ride your bike around Mary. You will yeah, yeah, yeah, 1295 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.000 I'm gonna go a Macro Dosett you know. Oh yeah, yeah, 1296 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:07.880 I have a fucking night. 1297 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:10.199 I think this looks great. 1298 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:12.199 You will love this game. I think this seems like 1299 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:13.679 a merry Monday night special. 1300 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:16.559 This is a Merry Monday special for sure. I also 1301 00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:18.280 love that you can customize your bike. It looks like 1302 00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.519 you can get like little silly bikes that look like 1303 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.480 a horse or one of looks like a person. 1304 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.119 Yeah, and there's stuff to where it's like one of 1305 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.199 it's a banana. But like, you know, if it looks 1306 00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.440 really cute, it's awesome. So you'll outfit your bike based 1307 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:33.920 on like this is more of a downhill race. This 1308 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:35.719 is one that's got more kind of hairpin turns. And 1309 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.079 you can kind of mixmatch the parts as needed. Again, 1310 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:42.360 short game, but just a delight for every moment I've 1311 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:43.239 played it, so can I. 1312 00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.559 Oh they didn't yep, yep. 1313 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:50.679 Nice, that's great, thank you for this wreck. I actually 1314 00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.079 maybe just because I've I've worked with Annapurna for so long. 1315 00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:57.199 I actually got a little package in the mail and 1316 00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.639 it was a wheel World package. This one it is 1317 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:03.760 that one like with the bottle and the chocolates and 1318 00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.800 stuff like that. Did it have a code in there? 1319 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:08.320 They sent you chocolates? 1320 00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:09.400 I didn't see the code. 1321 00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.679 I just got to send me real world chocolates like 1322 00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:13.239 they have chocolates. 1323 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.760 On the sending me pins and send me chocolates. Those 1324 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:17.239 are more useful, Okay. 1325 00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.719 I trying to. I have to wait till my face 1326 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:21.920 is not fucked up. But I'm looking forward to the chocolate. 1327 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:23.719 You can't just mung on them like you don't have 1328 00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:30.599 to chocolate. Yeah, do that mean melt them in your mouth? 1329 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:33.400 I guess I could, right. I don't know if you're 1330 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:36.239 supposed to get like chocolate particles in your open wound. 1331 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.679 Yeah, you probably don't want to get chocolate. 1332 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.239 I will know chocolate if I can't I'll melt chocolate 1333 00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:42.920 my coffee. 1334 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:48.119 Oh, that sounds pretty good this game. Check it out. 1335 00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.840 I got sugar and be on crack at the same time. 1336 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:56.679 You know, yes, this looks great. Thank you for the recommendation. 1337 00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:00.079 I love I love especially just like a nice. 1338 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:02.360 In game Merry Monday games. So this is something I 1339 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:03.079 probably will play. 1340 01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:07.880 It's hard to have so many there's so many games 1341 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.079 right now to play on Merry Mondays. I do feel 1342 01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.880 a little overwhelmed with how many games that I'm playing 1343 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:17.440 right now. I spent my weekend playing Peak and I 1344 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.639 absolutely love it, and I fully recommend this game after 1345 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.320 playing it for like I want to say, like fourteen 1346 01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.199 hours literally in a weekend. I just played it for 1347 01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:27.599 almost eight hours each day. 1348 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:28.599 It was so much fun. 1349 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:30.880 It's tremendous. So I've done a couple Have you done 1350 01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:32.920 it with the mod that lets you like uncap the 1351 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.840 player count with players on Giant Bombers. 1352 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:38.280 It's so fun, it's incredible. 1353 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.079 It's like one of the better, like prox Chad multiplayer games. 1354 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:42.920 I think I have to play it. Finally, I have 1355 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.800 friends that keep asking me to play it, and I'm like, 1356 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.119 one of these days. 1357 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.320 It's really, really it's a joy. 1358 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.679 And what's so fun about like having so many people 1359 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.800 play is like you'll be climbing and maybe your friend 1360 01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.079 will take a different route, but I'll hear them in 1361 01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:01.480 the distance scream, and I'll walk their body like kind 1362 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.440 of just pass by, and then they'll just disappear and 1363 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.360 you know that they fell to their death. It's extremely funny. 1364 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.199 Or you'll hear the like you know, for those who 1365 01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:11.519 haven't seen it or played it, it's basically like you know, 1366 01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.440 by default four player co op, you know, prox chat 1367 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.119 and c flimbing, a procedurally generated mountain that changes, is 1368 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.239 it every week? It's a new mountain twenty four hours, 1369 01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.079 oh every twenty four hours, and I think it's it's 1370 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.960 four biomes there, it's numerous different biomes and it's just 1371 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.280 you have a staminameter, you got different things you can eat. 1372 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.960 And the fun part is that doesn't tell you any 1373 01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.639 of that stuff. So every time I played, someone has 1374 01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.320 seen it like, oh what does this like green crispberry do? 1375 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:39.440 And then you eat it, it's like, oh, I'm poisoned. 1376 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.159 Oh shit, I'm dying. And then when they're dieing, yeah, 1377 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:43.880 the voice cuts out and it's like, well, I guess 1378 01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.360 I got to carry this corpse with me up the 1379 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.639 hill and try to revive it so much. 1380 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:50.559 Any Like, I don't have enough friends to play video 1381 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.840 games with. I've always been It's no, I'm dead serious. 1382 01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:55.480 I've always been like a solo gamer. And then I 1383 01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:56.559 get really, oh it is sad. 1384 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.960 I'm just laughing at it, like, well, it looks like 1385 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.079 you have to be my friend now, okay, Like the 1386 01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.840 I mean because I never really played multiplayer games and 1387 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.559 really got into him the last few years, obviously from streaming, 1388 01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:11.480 but like almost every person I know, like my friends 1389 01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.639 are playing Peak a month ago and now I'm like, okay, 1390 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:15.559 I'm done with night Rain. 1391 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.280 I should play this game now. I'm like, oh, we're 1392 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:18.079 not playing anymore. 1393 01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.599 Yeah, is the shelf life of this stuff, like you know, 1394 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.440 does does go up and down like shorter than it 1395 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.119 did before, because I feel like, specifically with somebody's like 1396 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.840 Divers too, okay, hell. 1397 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:33.519 Yeah, Hell Divers is multiplayer. You need friends for Hell Divers. 1398 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.400 No, I play with random Chinese kids now because nobody 1399 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.239 plays it anymore. Everyone's like I'm playing Marble Ribles. I'm like, 1400 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.239 I'm not playing Marble ribles. I'm playing Hell Divers. 1401 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.840 I refuse to play Marble bribles. 1402 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:50.159 Marble bibles do things like Repo like stick around, Like 1403 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.119 I feel like among us stuck around for a while, 1404 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.119 but like Repo definitely had It's like a moment in 1405 01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:56.039 the sun. But like, is that still a big thing 1406 01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:57.320 or do people just kind of move on to the 1407 01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:58.079 next I think so. 1408 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.199 I think mainly for like streaming, I'm not so much 1409 01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.840 like that. Yeah, I mean I feel like that when 1410 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.039 most people want to play games is for streaming. I'm like, 1411 01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.760 I don't always want to. I'm high as fuck and 1412 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.960 I don't want to show my face. So how about 1413 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.000 you guys stream and I'll just not I would. 1414 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.159 Join somebody else's stream to play Peak especially. I just 1415 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.599 think it lends itself. I don't think this would be 1416 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.039 a very fun solo experience. The joy of this is no. 1417 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:24.559 It sounds like reaching out to your. 1418 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.760 Friends, helping them up, getting them. You can have different 1419 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.800 facial expressions. It's so it's just so silly to me. 1420 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:32.719 Is it really on stream? 1421 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:35.840 I think it is right now. I'm sure it'll come 1422 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.119 those that's interesting. 1423 01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:38.679 I loved it. 1424 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.159 What we all do obviously it's good to have a 1425 01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:43.920 game that is great for streaming, but like to just 1426 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.360 the general populace, you know, like like people that are 1427 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.239 not streaming, they're not recording, they're just planning to hang 1428 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.440 out with their friends. Do these things have legs or 1429 01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:54.440 is it just kind of like are we kind of 1430 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.199 in this bubble and we're seeing it because of what 1431 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:56.639 we do. 1432 01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.800 I think that they have short shelf lives. I will admit, 1433 01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.320 like I don't think people played Lethal Company for more 1434 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.159 than six months, and I feel like that kind of 1435 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:07.440 did fall off among us. Was this unique thing that 1436 01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.599 just like lasted for years, but it was also during 1437 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.400 a pandemic. And yet that you have to come in 1438 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.760 perspective that we were looking for people during that time. 1439 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.880 Also, the games aren't in depth enough to last for 1440 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:19.880 that long. Like the problem with the Hell Divers is 1441 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.679 that they didn't really offer a lot and now they're like, oh, 1442 01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:24.559 now we have all this DLC and shit, and it's like, 1443 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:25.559 well now no one cares. 1444 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:28.159 People are gone, Yeah, you have to. 1445 01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.760 Like right that. It's like I beat all the night Lords, 1446 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.239 Now what do I do. It's like like games like Fortnite, 1447 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.440 Marvel Rivals, they have like seasons and like they're constantly 1448 01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:40.639 putting out new content. But all these like little one 1449 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:43.159 off indie games, it's just they're not meant to be 1450 01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:44.039 played for years. 1451 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.880 Yeah, why aren't you making six rounds of DLC Peak 1452 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.559 so that I can constantly evolve? 1453 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:52.880 Is yet? Yeah? Peaks? 1454 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:55.760 Give me there's I mean, the biome's help. 1455 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:56.519 I will say. 1456 01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.800 The original biome is like really simple, and once you 1457 01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.519 get through it, it's usually like imagine just like honestly, 1458 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:05.559 like any standard rock mountain. It's not special, it doesn't 1459 01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:10.719 have anything fancy. But the second biome was jungle and 1460 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.960 vines and thorns, and it had different trees and it 1461 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:17.880 had just different stuff like that. It had rains, so 1462 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.039 you do like if you climb when it's raining, that's 1463 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:22.719 not good, and like way more stuff to interact with. 1464 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:28.480 And then the third biome is uh snow and so 1465 01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.239 you can freeze to death and you can get cold 1466 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.599 and the wind blows like crazy. It's really fun to 1467 01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:36.039 like experience the different biomes. 1468 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:37.760 I'm gonna be really mad if you don't invite me 1469 01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.360 to play now. 1470 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:42.519 I feel like every time there's one of these games, 1471 01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:44.800 you're always the one that's like, hey, we should do 1472 01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.440 this together, we should play this, we should do have 1473 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.360 Patroon bonus. And we're like, yeah, that sounds like a 1474 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.679 great idea, and then we just can't find the time 1475 01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:51.119 to do it. 1476 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.400 I schedule. 1477 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.559 It's really tough with it. It's like it's like if 1478 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.719 I would make a joke about being single and it's 1479 01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:58.440 going to be my dams like I'm single too, I'd 1480 01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.000 be like, that's great for you. 1481 01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:01.360 Bye. 1482 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.679 Anyway, I'm gonna go to see over here and you 1483 01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.840 can be single over there. I know you're not offering me, Okay, 1484 01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:10.760 you have. 1485 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.079 To make an extra effort to do it. And like 1486 01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:17.719 for my Peak at least, like I'm I'm around streamers 1487 01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:20.440 all day long and I wasn't invited to Peak. I 1488 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:22.480 had to schedule it and organize it myself. I like 1489 01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:26.239 texted some people my health everybodies that I haven't talked 1490 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.000 to in a bit, and was like, hey, let's play peak. 1491 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.639 They downloaded it that night because that's the kind of 1492 01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.519 people they are, and we had so much fucking We 1493 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.760 played this, honest to god, until three point thirty in 1494 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:37.239 the morning. 1495 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.760 I could not stop. How many people can you play 1496 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:40.719 so tired for? 1497 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.199 But it sounds like you can hack it. 1498 01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:43.480 Yeah, maybe I can. 1499 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.719 Just maybe I should just do one stream of it 1500 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:47.519 when I'm done with Clear Up Scar because I'm almost 1501 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.039 done with that game. Unfortunately. 1502 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.519 Cool I want to hear about it. 1503 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:54.280 Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that. Yes, but damn, 1504 01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:55.039 what were you gonna say? 1505 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.159 Oh? Yeah, it is for But like the mod is 1506 01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.400 apparently super easy because only one person has when install it, 1507 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:02.480 because like I've done like the Lethal Company step and everything, 1508 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.679 where everyone has to install a thing and put a 1509 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:07.239 folder in a drive or whatever, but like one person, 1510 01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:09.480 like the host, has to get the character thing and 1511 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:11.519 you can do with like up to at least eight people. 1512 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.639 That's what we did last week in Drive Bomb, and 1513 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:14.400 it's a blast. 1514 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.679 Yeah, I think it's an absolute it's an absolute blast. 1515 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:23.760 Even without that, just four people hanging out trying to 1516 01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.239 get to the tipity top of this mountain. There's like 1517 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:29.400 a couple things that I don't think they're like mistakes 1518 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.079 or anything. I do think it's intentional, but I think 1519 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:34.920 it's a little frustrating because the items that you get 1520 01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:38.960 are also randomized. You really genuinely will need a rope 1521 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:41.480 or you will need like some ability to climb a 1522 01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.000 space that you don't you can't really get up without it, 1523 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.679 and it's and because the items are randomized, you might 1524 01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:51.199 just get flares, which are the most useless, worthless item 1525 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:53.039 in the entire game. And so it's like sometimes I 1526 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:55.760 will like open up a suitcase and get a worthless 1527 01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:57.800 item that I don't want, and it's like, all right, 1528 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.440 we just like start over and like die because this 1529 01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:01.199 is not a good round. 1530 01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.159 Have you found a use for the trumpet outside of 1531 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:03.920 it being funny? 1532 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.440 No, it's so funny though, really funny. Yeah, does it 1533 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:08.519 have an actual use? 1534 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:10.320 No, That's what I'm asking you, because like I love 1535 01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:12.199 seeing it just because it's funny, but like I've never 1536 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.000 seen an actual use for it that one. 1537 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.319 At least, its use is that it's funny, Like the 1538 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.600 flair isn't funny to me, And I don't think it 1539 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:21.520 has like any joke purpose. I have never laughed so 1540 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.359 hard than to watch my friend fall down the cliff 1541 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:31.920 while playing their trumpet, and it was like that's so funny, 1542 01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:35.520 and like saying to like all your friends, like don't worry, guys, 1543 01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:38.359 I got this. And you're the one that like takes 1544 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:40.439 the leap of faith to get top, only to like 1545 01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:43.319 fall to your death. I think what's what I really 1546 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.279 enjoy about this game is there's other games I played 1547 01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.279 where like dying is really frustrating or it's annoying and 1548 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:51.880 you feel like you've like wasted time. But this game 1549 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.119 has a really nice death sequence where you just become 1550 01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.319 a ghost that floats near everybody and so you still 1551 01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:59.039 get to hang out with them and possibly even annoy them, 1552 01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:02.359 and I just and they've solved for it, still have it. 1553 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.079 It's goofy. That's why I never got in the games, 1554 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.640 like any of the big like third or first person 1555 01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:09.760 shooter games, is that they're not goofy enough for me. 1556 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:13.760 And when I'm dead, I'm like, oh, I'm just hanging out, okay. 1557 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.720 I think that's what Hell Divers got for me, is 1558 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:18.560 that it was so goofy, and then on top of it, 1559 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.079 you would just keep getting respond until you're like, oh yeah, 1560 01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:22.560 you never just not play the game. 1561 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.199 But with this, it's like the perfect mix of like 1562 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:26.920 it is goofy, because when you die, you were this 1563 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.199 like floating tadpoles sperm looking thing with like the face 1564 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.960 your custom face on the ghost. Yeah, but then you 1565 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.520 can also, like, you know, if people are separated. I 1566 01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.000 was doing the thing where like I would die and 1567 01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:39.119 I would go talk to Jan and he'd be like, 1568 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:41.720 tell Grub, I'm stuck here. I need the rope. Okay, 1569 01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:43.800 I'll be right back, and my ghost to fly over 1570 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.119 the ground back Jandy's roope. Go over, he's over there. 1571 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:47.960 Go on, look at your left, you know, so you 1572 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.079 can actually kind of contribute as a ghost. Still, you're such. 1573 01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:53.600 A useful ghost that I feel like you feel like 1574 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:57.560 you've wasted your time useful. And if you can convince 1575 01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.560 your friends like get to the top, you can do it. 1576 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.000 You can do it, but you can bring back everybody 1577 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:04.760 at the top of the mountain and then you can 1578 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:08.039 do the next biome together and so like. Because of that, 1579 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.000 as long as one person makes it, and that's happened 1580 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:14.600 so many times, we were able to see like I 1581 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.840 think is the final biome, which is like the Lava Biome, 1582 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.319 and it's really fun and scary and I just think 1583 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:24.399 it's fantastically constructed and it is silly. And the devs 1584 01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:26.800 were saying that it was like one of those games 1585 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:28.720 where they were just like making it during a game jam. 1586 01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.760 But they thought it was so fun, and I. 1587 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.960 Was like, that's a good game studio. That's a good 1588 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.359 developer group that are like this is silly and fun, 1589 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:41.199 like let's build this, build this bitch out, Like I 1590 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:42.000 think that's awesome. 1591 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:44.920 I've seen the devs posting that, like they made another 1592 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.399 Crab's Treasure and like that's it's like almost almost like 1593 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.319 a Soul's Like you know, it's like a real ass 1594 01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:53.880 game and there's like loll the stupid bullshit we made. 1595 01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:56.039 Did you ever play it? Yeah? 1596 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:56.880 It's good. I like it. 1597 01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:58.039 Did you ever use the gun? 1598 01:10:58.680 --> 01:10:58.800 No? 1599 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.520 I never got that you could just put a handicap 1600 01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:03.039 on the game where you just have a gun and 1601 01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:05.720 you one shot everything and it's like a huge gun. 1602 01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:07.840 So you're just tiny little crap and the gun's like 1603 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:10.640 this big and you're like not even holding it's just 1604 01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.399 floating on you and you just one shot everything in the. 1605 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.439 Game a human gun, like a glossy like. 1606 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.680 An actual human gun, and it looks so stupid, and 1607 01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:20.680 so it's just one click in the menu. Were like, 1608 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.640 the Soul's part's too hard, Just give me the gun 1609 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.920 and it just one shot your way for the whole game. 1610 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:27.600 I think they get it. I think I like that team, and. 1611 01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:30.000 I think they get it. I think they understand. So 1612 01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:31.399 that's a good one. 1613 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:36.439 But going Under one, right, Going Under, Yeah, that was 1614 01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:40.119 the That was the the first of their studio game 1615 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:41.800 that I knew about, where you're the girl and you're 1616 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:43.840 in the office and you got to basically fight your boss. 1617 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.880 I didn't play this, but I did see this, but 1618 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:48.720 I didn't play it. 1619 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:51.399 That was Yeah, that's how I knew them. Do you? 1620 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:53.720 But you know a game I'm talking about. 1621 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:55.439 I've not seen this before. 1622 01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:00.319 Going Under game, and pretty sure it's what's called yea yeah, yeah, 1623 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.960 how going Under? Yeah, it was like a kind of 1624 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.279 like a platformer, but you're like an office worker and 1625 01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.880 you'd use like pencils and erasers to like fight like 1626 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.600 little evil office workers. I'm going to write, that's just 1627 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:14.119 very this is very goofy. 1628 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.520 Yeah, I bet you. They made this like while they 1629 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.000 were working at their like official studio, and they were like, 1630 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:22.039 I hate working a desk job, I hate companies. 1631 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:24.720 Let's quit and make some crap. 1632 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.920 I really like their basically like their art style. Yeah 1633 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:31.760 they got that. Uh the Nickelodeon vibes to me. 1634 01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:34.640 Yeah, yeah, Peaks definitely got that too. 1635 01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:38.640 Yeah, like Another's Crabs, Treasure was not that long ago. 1636 01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.560 In fact, i'm looking at it, really it was last 1637 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.359 year fifth, twenty twenty four. Like they made this game 1638 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.359 within a year of their last game. 1639 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:47.039 That's crazy. 1640 01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.159 Yeah, Going Under came out I think in twenty twenty 1641 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:58.000 one too, and then yeah, they're they're bill knit nice. Yeah. 1642 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.600 I knew about Going Under because my friend David, who 1643 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.520 did my anime sticker art, he did the official art 1644 01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:07.239 for them too, so he he worked with the art 1645 01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:08.760 director and then that's how I played the game, and 1646 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:09.800 the game was really good. 1647 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:13.680 You're obviously very well connected in the game space, Lisa. 1648 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:15.880 I have to talk to you about a game that 1649 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:18.359 Dan and I have been playing for some time now, 1650 01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:22.960 but you've been also talking about it, Claire Obscure. It 1651 01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:25.600 sounds like you've been digging into this game for a 1652 01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.279 little bit. Tell us about your experience with Claire Obscure. 1653 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.720 Well, we're I think we're Dan. Have you beaten it? 1654 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:38.840 Yes, but we won't do spoiler casts because I haven't 1655 01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.960 because married we're in act three. 1656 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.159 Yeah, I was immediately. The whole reason why I even 1657 01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.279 usually start games is because I like to learn about 1658 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.880 weird gaming history, and someone's like, you should play Claire 1659 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:54.600 Obscure because I've been playing a lot of turn based 1660 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:59.680 games lately. Unfortunately, Bosso, they were like the soundtrack is 1661 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:02.159 phenomen because they found this guy off Reddit, and I 1662 01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.560 was like, what, like someone told me that, and they're like, 1663 01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.039 it's a French studio is their first game. It's like 1664 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:09.760 and I remember seeing the trailer like months ago, but 1665 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:11.439 like within the first hour of the game, I was 1666 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.560 crying and I was like, Okay, I haven't cried from 1667 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.920 a video game in a very long time. And obviously 1668 01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:19.680 I'm I'm known as the Perry Queen, which I hate that. 1669 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:21.760 But when I have people that I don't even talk 1670 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.079 to you message me saying you have to play this 1671 01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.560 game because you'd love the combat system and it's turn based, 1672 01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:27.960 I'm like, okay, we hate each other and you're texting me, 1673 01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:30.840 so I guess I need to play this game. And yeah, 1674 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.399 I've been obsessed with it and now I'm at a 1675 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.119 part where it's like I'm getting close to the end, 1676 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:35.359 but I don't want to get to the end yet, 1677 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:37.600 so I'm just doing all the side stuff and it's 1678 01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:39.359 like I haven't been locked in like this in a 1679 01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:40.479 very long time. 1680 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:42.359 Now, are you? Because I wanted to do that when 1681 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:44.399 I got to Act three, because you know, you definitely 1682 01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.960 can spend your time going around leveling up and all 1683 01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:50.520 that stuff. But like all those chromatic bosses and everything, 1684 01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:52.439 I would go to them, and I was probably around 1685 01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.119 like level fifty ish with all my characters, they would 1686 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.960 still just whoop my ass like first turn, like how 1687 01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:00.720 are you approaching those things? In Act three? 1688 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:03.159 Yeah, when they were one shotting me. What I did 1689 01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.239 is I went to the Dark Shores. I learned the 1690 01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.159 pattern of those big spooky guys because you'd get like 1691 01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:12.239 five hundred thousand like experience point and I would just 1692 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.399 fight them like four times, and I'd level up ten 1693 01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.520 levels and then i'd go to the Endless Tower and 1694 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.520 learn the patterns of all those guys and then from 1695 01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:23.119 there now I'm just like able to do most things. 1696 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:26.239 Okay, Yeah, I feel like I didn't fuck with much. 1697 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:27.960 Like it'd probably be a good place to grind. 1698 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.399 I mean, you don't have an RPG history to you, 1699 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:32.239 but like the classic is, it's like if you can't 1700 01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:34.079 kill stuff, you have to grind. 1701 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:34.439 Sure. 1702 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:36.560 Yeah, And like I say, you know how to grind, 1703 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:39.920 and I hate grinding, but I was like, where can 1704 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:41.840 I go where I get? Like I and I'm also 1705 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.680 like an anti googler, like I'm very like pretentious, like 1706 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.640 I'm not gonna look anything up. But I was playing 1707 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.640 and it's weird because the difficulty curve goes way up 1708 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:53.319 in Act three, but all you have to get is 1709 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.199 to level like sixty, which is really fast. You can 1710 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:57.960 level up really fast in that game, which I think 1711 01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:00.840 is fascinating because usually don't you reach like a high 1712 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.560 level in an RPG. It's like I have to kill 1713 01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:06.640 like thirty enemies to get to the next level. But yeah, 1714 01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.479 once you get to like level sixty, and you're like, oh, 1715 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.720 I can actually play comfortably now the danger signs start 1716 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.600 to go away when you start to visit places. 1717 01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.880 Yeah, the danger thing. Yeah yeah. 1718 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.880 I would go to the last part of Back two 1719 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.079 and I would just go and just do a couple 1720 01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:25.439 grinding in through there, and they come out and be like, 1721 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:29.520 now I'm killing it and my bills are insane at 1722 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:30.039 this point. 1723 01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.159 Who's like, uh, who's like your damage dealer, who's like 1724 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.199 your defender, who's like your tank? 1725 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.640 Well, I got all the pick those that are like 1726 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:43.880 second chance double heel uh like play first off. Mine 1727 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.760 is looney looney mael are the two like big power doers. 1728 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.039 But then I started eating everyone out and now all 1729 01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:54.359 of my characters have like a good they move set, 1730 01:16:54.399 --> 01:17:00.319 except for Verso is shockingly my least favorite, dably my 1731 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:01.119 second favorite. 1732 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:07.319 Oh I hate I never used can unlock anything thing 1733 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:09.439 and all that ship. Yeah, I never really messed with him. 1734 01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:12.000 What I did first, I got Versato a good spot 1735 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:13.840 where it's like all of his base attack stuff and 1736 01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.159 be like, oh, you do a double attack and go 1737 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:17.840 again afterwards. 1738 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:20.880 But you gotta do the elemental hits, and then you 1739 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.720 gotta do the elemental damage. And then with with my 1740 01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.239 l you gotta do the void attack and you gotta 1741 01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.279 get her in the in the what was the stance Virtuoso? 1742 01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:34.920 The Virtuosa stance, Yeah, virtuo don't I'm not French anyway, but. 1743 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.159 What he read, I try to cram the French into you. 1744 01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:39.720 Yeah, So I would have them in my party, and 1745 01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:42.960 then I would have Monaco as like the third character, 1746 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.279 just to get the leveling up and then unlock all 1747 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.159 the skills. And then once you get enough skills I 1748 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.359 think I'm only missing one skill like Monica box, that's 1749 01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:52.159 all I gotta say. 1750 01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:55.680 Okay, with the wheel thing and everything is that like yeah. 1751 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.279 Yeah, yeah, just make sure you got one skill in 1752 01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:02.359 there for each part of the wheel, so whatever you can, 1753 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:05.159 and then you try to realize like oh, like like 1754 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:07.600 his big like elemental damage. If you have it on 1755 01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:10.680 the right wheel, it does some does some good shit. 1756 01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:13.479 But yeah, I'm even out with everyone now. 1757 01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.159 I like to seel a lot like it. At first, 1758 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:20.119 it seemed a little overwhelming with the Foretel stuff and everything, 1759 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:21.840 but once figured out, it's not that bad at all. 1760 01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:25.359 Once you figure it out, She's pretty powerful. Also, she 1761 01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:26.600 does damage no one else does. 1762 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:30.039 All the girls are they're like the badasses. Monica is 1763 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:32.119 more like a support character, but he has a lot 1764 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.399 of attacks that can attack all characters. So it's like, oh, 1765 01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:37.920 you just find one elemental of each and it's like, oh, 1766 01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:40.960 this this enemy, he don't like earth damage, so you 1767 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.239 just put like heavy earth damage on all enemies and 1768 01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:43.880 then there you go. 1769 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:47.359 So I couldn't agree more. His game is like truly 1770 01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:51.840 like badass ladies the game. Everybody in this game is 1771 01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:54.279 just like so powerful and so important. 1772 01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.159 And so badass as a girl. 1773 01:18:57.239 --> 01:18:59.880 It's really cool to like go through these phases with 1774 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.640 them and watch them like do these incredible things together. 1775 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:04.640 And there is a. 1776 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:10.159 Horror there's a harem of women going after verso versus 1777 01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:11.760 trying and they're like, no. 1778 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.319 Yeah, what's that. Uh, there's like a trope for that 1779 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:20.199 where yeah, in like anime, there's like a dude with 1780 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:21.079 three girls and. 1781 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.079 I like the harem harem and it's like, and that's 1782 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.159 how I don't like Final Fancy. I'm gonna be that person. 1783 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:28.680 He's like not a final fan. 1784 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:32.520 I did play No you was getting really well here guy, Yeah. 1785 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:36.079 File Fantasy six and it was great. But then I 1786 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.399 realized I got to a point in the game where 1787 01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:39.119 I thought I beat it, and I only went halfway through, 1788 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:42.079 and I said, fuck this game. But I beat Krona 1789 01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.439 Trigger for the first time this year, and that does 1790 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.520 everything I love about g RPGs or turn Base, like 1791 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:52.439 I don't have to grind. It's very easy to understand, 1792 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.560 like if my main party character dies, I can still 1793 01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:57.680 use my backup characters, Like that's why I heye about 1794 01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:01.039 for five or Persona is that if he dies, so 1795 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.800 does everyone else, Like that's bullshit. But like Claire up Spirits, 1796 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.279 like if your party dies, you can use your backup 1797 01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.840 party to try to save the day. So that's why 1798 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:10.399 I made sure everyone was even leveled. 1799 01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:14.479 Yeah, I'm curious. You mentioned Final Fantasy six and like, 1800 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:17.760 growing up, I could not stand JRPGs, and as I 1801 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.640 got older, I wanted to go back and like everyone 1802 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.079 talks like they're the best game ever. I've started Final 1803 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:24.960 Fantasy six like three times, and every time it's just 1804 01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:27.760 slow as hell to start. I always bounced off really quick. 1805 01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:31.600 But like Chrono Trigger, I reviewed the DS version back 1806 01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:32.880 when it came out, and I was like, oh shit, 1807 01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:35.880 this game's actually like I really liked Krona Trigger. What 1808 01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:39.840 is it that? What am I missing about Final Fantasy six? 1809 01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.960 Or like, what is the thing that Liken you played 1810 01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.119 him recently? Like what does Corona Trigger do better than 1811 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:45.000 Final Fantasy six? 1812 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:48.880 Felt like it's like a passion project of like three 1813 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:53.000 incredible like game developers, and like Toriama too was involved 1814 01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:56.359 with it, and then Final Fantasy Like, people are gonna 1815 01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:58.439 hate me for this. I never played Final Fantasy seven. 1816 01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.840 Growing up. I was a Nintendo person, so I missed 1817 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.359 out on a lot of PlayStation games. So I played 1818 01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:07.680 the remake as my first File Fancy and I was like, 1819 01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:10.800 this feels very corporate. Like I was like that was 1820 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.279 the word I came up with. And everyone's like, you 1821 01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.800 don't understand, like this is the most amazing. They put 1822 01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:17.600 so much up, Like this feels gross after a while 1823 01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:20.119 and it's so long, And I was like, and I 1824 01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:23.720 don't really like Cloud and like Tifa's relationship with him, 1825 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:25.920 and like Era's relationship. I was like, I was not 1826 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.079 a fan of I don't like cat boys that much either, 1827 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.239 Like like you're a child, like I had to grow 1828 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:34.640 up from anime. I'm like, listen, you're a child's soldier. 1829 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:36.079 Why do you look like you work at Hollister? 1830 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:38.560 Like I just it is Cloud a cat boy? 1831 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.279 What are the I mean it's a cat boy? He 1832 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.640 looks he looks like a cat. Yeah. It's like every 1833 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:47.399 like even the old people in File Fancy seven look 1834 01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:51.159 like male model babies, like babies, like the old people 1835 01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:53.680 just like they're just like botoxed, you know. 1836 01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:57.039 What I mean, Like like Goku a cat boy. 1837 01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:04.079 No to me, Twink is what I'm trying. 1838 01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:07.520 To say, equals cat boy, Like. 1839 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:10.840 I love Claire obscure because it's like everyone is like 1840 01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:13.399 beat up and like dirty, Like it's like. 1841 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.079 Every animation after a fight and it looks like they're 1842 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:18.439 about to die. 1843 01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:23.439 Shit. And like my only exception is like like Leon 1844 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.159 from like Resident Evil because Resident Evil's so goofy w. 1845 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.359 He's like I gotta go kill some zombies now, you know. 1846 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.880 But like File Fancy, it's like Cloud is like I'm 1847 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:36.560 just so traumatized that I can't be nice everyone. I'm like, okay, 1848 01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:38.439 but you still put gel in your hair every morning 1849 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:39.239 for thirty minutes. 1850 01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:42.880 Like I'm not haating you, seriously, I'm traumatized. 1851 01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:45.800 I'm just so traumatized. And he has like eye patches 1852 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:51.880 on like so it's like it's a hard cell for me. 1853 01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:54.840 Like I loved File Fantacy sixteen because it wasn't turn 1854 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:57.800 based and like Clive was just like a dirty cat 1855 01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.840 boy but he was like hot and like bury and 1856 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:02.159 like beat up. But like yeah, like it was It's 1857 01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:03.680 just hard for me to get a follow Fancy because 1858 01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:05.680 I'm just like you guys just all look like K 1859 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:08.560 pop stars, Like. 1860 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:11.359 Like outside of sixteen, did the series? Like has have 1861 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:12.720 they gone outside of that? You think? 1862 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.560 Or is it all really No, That's why I don't 1863 01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:19.800 play anime style games like I like Persona five, Like 1864 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:21.079 that was the whole reason why I got a PS 1865 01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:23.079 four to begin with. But it's like I knew they 1866 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.000 were like in high school, and it's got way more 1867 01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.800 of like an anime vibe to it, which I was 1868 01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:28.560 okay with, but like most of the time, it's like 1869 01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.600 I can't listen. I want my I want snake. I 1870 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:33.239 need my man to look like he smells like the 1871 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:35.000 dead rats in your apartment, you know what I mean, 1872 01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:36.800 Like yeah, or your house. 1873 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:39.399 Yeah, I'm dirty. 1874 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:45.079 I want I'm filthy, and I give I give looney, 1875 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:46.359 you know, the benefit of doubt. 1876 01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:48.560 She does have those la lip flip. They did give 1877 01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:50.319 her that in the game, and I was like, listen, 1878 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:52.000 she's about to die in a year. She can look 1879 01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.680 as hot as she wants, okay, Like she. 1880 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.239 Got work done because this is her last. 1881 01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.479 I'm like, this bitch has work done. 1882 01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.079 Okay, she chose to serve. 1883 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:05.359 Yeah, we gotta stop the garage. 1884 01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:14.199 They do look good. I mean I don't want them 1885 01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:16.159 to look too fucked up. I just think they like 1886 01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:19.760 clairebs gear like rode the line between like let them 1887 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:22.359 be dirty, let them be disgusting. But they're all super cute, 1888 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:25.039 Like they're all like cute little characters, and I think 1889 01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:28.079 they did a good job making everybody fun to look at. 1890 01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:30.720 Even Ska is like super fun to. 1891 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.439 I want to ask. I want to ask you a tattoo. 1892 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:35.680 I'm like, I love him. 1893 01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:38.600 Well, I'm gonna get a tattoo of a rock and 1894 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:40.520 then we can just hang out together. 1895 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.279 Yeah. I just think Claire and also having like the 1896 01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:47.359 ability to parry and dodge. I haven't dodged once in 1897 01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.960 the game. I've just been pairing everything. I think having 1898 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.199 that ability like makes it more interactive because term based 1899 01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:55.920 the reason why people hate is that every fight feels 1900 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.680 like a drag. But at least in Claire, obscurity doesn't 1901 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.640 feel like that because it's just oh interactive, and because 1902 01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:05.840 you have the option to actually block every attack, it's like, oh, 1903 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:07.560 it gives me something to do in a pattern to 1904 01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:09.000 learn because. 1905 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:13.319 Most different way, like the Mario Luigi games, like those RPGs, like. 1906 01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.079 The the like the Super Mario rpg. 1907 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:18.960 Yeah, like the DS and GBA like Mario and Luigi Ones. 1908 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:21.800 No, I mean I have I did play the Super 1909 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:22.640 Mario RPG. 1910 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:25.000 Like that one's great, but like. 1911 01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.359 From Superintendo, but not the Mario and Luigi ones. 1912 01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:29.600 No, those are so fucking good. And even though I 1913 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:31.840 hated j RPG's growing up, those are the ones I 1914 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:33.640 like because of the same reasons you were just mentioning, 1915 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:35.920 because they are giving you like kind of in the 1916 01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:37.960 middle of battle. You're not just selecting something from a 1917 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.279 menu and watching something happen. It is very like you 1918 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:43.520 can dodge stuff, you can make things do more damage 1919 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:45.600 and everything like, and they're funny as hell, like those 1920 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:47.039 Mario Luigi games are incredible. 1921 01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:50.760 Yeah, there isn't much. There's a little bit of humor 1922 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:52.439 and clear obscure, but I don't care about it. 1923 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:55.640 There's some it picks its spots. It's mainly just like 1924 01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:57.920 random like NPC interactions and stuff. 1925 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:02.319 Yeah, French French, the Friend and sharn't known for their comedy. 1926 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:06.239 I feel like they're like everyone vill die and it's 1927 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:07.399 just like I may like. 1928 01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:10.600 It, but they do have mimes and they do have bagattes. 1929 01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.880 So I hate that fucking mime. I hate that fucking mime. 1930 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:17.439 I hate that enemy. It's so hard to kill that mime. 1931 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:19.439 I never killed the Mime and I never see me. 1932 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.239 I learned the attacks, I learned the patterns. 1933 01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:24.199 It was the first enemy I ran into, and it 1934 01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:25.600 just would my ass And like I feel like every 1935 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:27.239 time I saw Mime, it would just like jump out 1936 01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:29.399 from behind a tree, one shot me, and then I 1937 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:30.800 would avoid him the rest of the game. I never 1938 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:31.199 killed them. 1939 01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:32.840 And even if you. 1940 01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:35.119 Learn the attacks, just to defend myself for a second, 1941 01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:38.720 I did learn his fucking attacks. And he is so 1942 01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:42.600 hard to just take down, yep, because he put the 1943 01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:44.239 first thing he does is put up a shield. He 1944 01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:46.239 puts up this like fake brick wall because that's what 1945 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.880 mimes do, because they're so fucking funny. And everything I 1946 01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.319 was doing did like fifty damage. As you guys know, 1947 01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:55.079 everything in that game is like a million health. So 1948 01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:58.159 it just it took forty minutes for me to wear 1949 01:26:58.199 --> 01:26:59.199 this mime down. 1950 01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:00.000 I just hate them. 1951 01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:03.479 Monaco gets a move where you can damage through shields 1952 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:08.199 and it's a high in physical damage and it does Yeah. 1953 01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:11.800 See ah, you gotta be like me, just unlock everything 1954 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:13.960 and just study it and then be like I'm still 1955 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:14.720 bad at the game. 1956 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:17.520 It's why I don't like these types of games. 1957 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.159 But I do like Clapscua, but like, oh, these games 1958 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.800 are so exhaustingly like where it's like, well you have 1959 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.840 to know that you need to get her to burn them, 1960 01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.159 and then it puts what's your fucking face? And then 1961 01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:30.880 the guy has like a mark that like if he 1962 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.439 burns it, he does like actually, it's like so like 1963 01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.439 re read a book, like just let me hit them. 1964 01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:40.600 Yeah. Also, I'll just show you what I got because 1965 01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:42.520 one time, like I figured it out, was like that 1966 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:44.439 was nice about streaming it is I'd be like I'm 1967 01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:47.239 allowing some backsey gaming and they'd be like, equip this 1968 01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:49.239 move and this move, just use those. I'm like, what 1969 01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:53.079 the fuck? Like I did the the Stettondall move of 1970 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:56.479 of ma L. It's the toughest move in the game. 1971 01:27:56.680 --> 01:27:59.720 It's like it just like one shots these chromatic enemies 1972 01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:01.840 and like what you. 1973 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:04.039 Put on the thing that lumier that makes it so 1974 01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:05.319 you can go over nine nine nine? 1975 01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:10.119 Yeah, oh I don't think you can do I can, Yeah, 1976 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:13.920 you can't play the game without that. And then there. 1977 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:16.039 Obviously lovely and a really good gamer, but I also 1978 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:19.359 think that you know this game too much and I 1979 01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:22.000 think you're kind of you're a bit snotty about it. 1980 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:25.319 Well, you're the thing I'm I'm like, there is a 1981 01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.239 time like this year has been really rough as far 1982 01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.000 as like I've been traveling so much ever since I Bala, 1983 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:35.319 it's been tough to like play a bunch of games, 1984 01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.159 like I wish I was up to date on game 1985 01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:39.000 now that I do, like more journalism stuff I do, 1986 01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:41.600 But like I'll get locked into a game and I'll 1987 01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:43.720 just like that is my goals. Just I have to 1988 01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:46.479 do everything in that game, and then I ruined my life. 1989 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:50.079 You're presenting claim Scare is crazy. 1990 01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:51.159 I'm getting there. 1991 01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:54.399 I can't believe it. I mean, I'm very impressed by you, 1992 01:28:54.600 --> 01:29:00.159 and uh that's probably probably yellow deep down inside. But 1993 01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:03.800 you're also very addicted to a couple games like obviously, 1994 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:05.800 Claire ob Sciar takes a lot of hours, but I 1995 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.560 think one of the games that takes like the most 1996 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.239 hours is elden Ring. And you've been telling me that 1997 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:16.319 you've been burning through night Rain, which is psychotic as well, 1998 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:18.840 So tell me about your experiences through elden Ring. 1999 01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:22.119 I mean, like, I did you play night Rain. 2000 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:26.199 I am not a good enough gamer for night Rain. 2001 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:29.039 I'm just gonna admit that very openly and take a 2002 01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:30.159 slice of humble pie. 2003 01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:34.159 Listen. I kind of cheated with that because I love 2004 01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:35.840 elden Ring. But I started playing the game, I was like, 2005 01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:38.560 I'm terrible at this. And then I got hired to 2006 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:43.520 do like a night Rain like sport casting thing and 2007 01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.760 it was like six night Rain professionals and I just 2008 01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:49.359 watched what they did and I mimic it every time. 2009 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:52.199 That's cool. That's actually really cool. 2010 01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:54.399 We're just saying, oh, they go here and then they 2011 01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:56.720 go here, because it's like it's not you're not playing 2012 01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:58.720 it like elden Ring, where you're like skilled at a 2013 01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.560 specific build. You're playing it like like kind of like Fortnite, 2014 01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:05.399 like you're like, we gotta get this thing because this 2015 01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.720 this enemy will give you this power, this enemy will 2016 01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:09.880 be this power. It's like you have fifteen minutes until 2017 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:12.119 the first night Lord, and so you're just rushing. But 2018 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:13.520 the problem is that I have to play with a 2019 01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:18.640 lot of randoms because From Software hasn't done cross platform yet, 2020 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:22.359 which is insane to have a multiplayer game. What are you, Nintendo? 2021 01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.239 But it's just like it's like, how are you gonna 2022 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.600 have this cross platform? This multiplayer game not be cross platform. 2023 01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:30.159 So all my friends are playing on Steve and I'm 2024 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:32.479 playing on PS five, right. 2025 01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:33.800 Are they sad? 2026 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:36.520 I don't know. But there's also no voice chats. Every 2027 01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:38.800 time I play with Randos. It's like the Spider Man 2028 01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.079 meme where it's like who's the leader. 2029 01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:44.119 Who's leading at yeah? 2030 01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:46.119 Yeah, and and so it's like you just wait for 2031 01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:48.439 someone to mark the first castle and then you're like 2032 01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:50.640 that person's the leader. But sometimes they take places you 2033 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:53.000 don't want to go, and now I've gotten really good. 2034 01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:57.239 The problem is is like every run is just randomized. 2035 01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:59.399 So it's like you may think like, okay, I just 2036 01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.119 got to get like a good electric weapon or lightning weapon, 2037 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:03.520 like I get to do fire weapon. You don't know 2038 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:06.239 exactly what weapons you're gonna get unless you have like 2039 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:09.319 a room that tells you what treasures in what areas. 2040 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:11.439 But yeah, it's a lot. I mean it's fun because 2041 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:15.439 it's like forty five minutes, like a basic multiplayer game 2042 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:17.880 is forty five minute run, and then it's like cool, 2043 01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.800 I got my souls fixed for the day and now 2044 01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:21.159 I can move on with my life. 2045 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:23.800 I just I've been I have not touched it yet, 2046 01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:26.039 despite Elden Ring being like one of my favorite games ever, 2047 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:28.119 and I think it's And tell me if I'm way 2048 01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:29.800 out base here, because like, the thing I love about 2049 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:32.560 elden Ring is like I've never been that like Securo 2050 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:34.760 guy that can you know, parry, and I'm really good 2051 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:35.880 at these games. I'm not that guy. 2052 01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.319 Like you don't parry at all in this game. It's impossible. 2053 01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:40.119 Oh okay, well, I mean I just to say that, 2054 01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:42.600 like I'm not good at from grams. I like them, 2055 01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:46.399 I respect them deeply, But like elden Ring, the thing 2056 01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:48.880 that I loved about it was the discovery aspects. It's 2057 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:51.000 the same way I liked Breath of the Wild, where 2058 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.079 it's like I'm kind of plopping into this world and 2059 01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:55.359 I just stumble into like oh my god, klid, this 2060 01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:57.159 is fucked up, or like I open this treasure chest 2061 01:31:57.319 --> 01:31:59.399 and I'm across the map and like that type of stuff. 2062 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.119 Seeing the breadth of the game. It's not the moment 2063 01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:04.159 to moment combat because I'm not great at that, but 2064 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:05.760 I can cheose it, i can level up and stuff 2065 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.760 like that. Is this game not for me? If that's 2066 01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:09.960 what I like about elden Ring. 2067 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:12.079 I think the discovery part of this game is the 2068 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:15.000 best part. Oh okay, yeah, but it is all the 2069 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.800 same map. You just have to find the right treasures 2070 01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:20.640 and the right builds, and I like that that it's 2071 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:24.279 kind of like just elden Ring packed into this tiny thing. 2072 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:26.880 Everyone's at the same level when you start out, and 2073 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:29.479 you're just like, Okay, don't kill any little enemies, go 2074 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:32.039 for the great bosses. Kill a great boss, you get 2075 01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:34.680 the option of three different weapons or one like power up, 2076 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:37.239 grab that one, go to the next boss, and so 2077 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:40.479 it's really just like a mini boss rush. But the 2078 01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:42.960 discovering part of like being like, oh, in this cave, 2079 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:44.880 let's see what you can get out of here, that's 2080 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:46.920 the cool part. And they do like Shifted Earth where 2081 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:49.479 it's like discover the secrets of the underground city and 2082 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.760 so you run through, but it's definitely like you have 2083 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:54.359 there's no time to parry and learn how to play 2084 01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.840 the game. It's like you're just going in. You're just slashing. 2085 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.640 And the difficulty is like Matt with your level two, 2086 01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:03.960 like the highest level and Get is fifteen and you 2087 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:04.840 start at level one. 2088 01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:07.319 So is that a persistent thing or do you start 2089 01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:08.439 at level one every time you. 2090 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:10.439 Start a level one every time, like you always start 2091 01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:12.039 at the same level, so you just have to make 2092 01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:16.560 sure you have a good team or you just have 2093 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.720 to be able to know where you want to go 2094 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.720 and where to go. And I like it. I don't know. 2095 01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:22.760 It is weird. It's hard to explain because it's not 2096 01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:25.439 like elden Ring. It's not like a Soul's game where 2097 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.960 it's like I'm gonna start off with my little Katana 2098 01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:29.840 and do a Dex build. It's like, no, bitch, you 2099 01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:33.039 got six characters. Each one of them has a certain build. 2100 01:33:33.399 --> 01:33:36.920 You just gotta choose one of these characters and stick 2101 01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:40.399 with their like big arts. Their character arts is the 2102 01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:40.920 big thing. 2103 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:42.960 You're a Wilder and. 2104 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.039 His thing is he does like a big stagger attack 2105 01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.479 and then he can like grapple to an enemy that's 2106 01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:52.000 too far away or bring him towards him. So it's 2107 01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:52.439 a lot. 2108 01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:55.039 I need to try it. It's weird that there's like 2109 01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:57.319 a new elden Ring adjacent game and I haven't played it, Like, 2110 01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:58.800 I gotta try it. 2111 01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:00.920 It is I think it's we're checking out, But I 2112 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.359 definitely think you should play with people that you know 2113 01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:08.319 are playing. Playing with randoms is very hit or miss. 2114 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:10.960 And it's been a lot more miss lately than hits 2115 01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:12.359 for me because I can tell when I'm going to 2116 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:14.199 run with someone they just want to test out a 2117 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:16.600 new weapon or test out a new character, and they're 2118 01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.760 not like following our path. And then I'm like, god, 2119 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:23.159 damn it away and then you can quit the game, 2120 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.119 and then I'm like you might be in penalized for this, 2121 01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:27.640 like why what did I do? 2122 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:27.840 This? 2123 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:28.560 Guy sucks? 2124 01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:33.880 You know anyways, but that'sile of games we should play. 2125 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:37.600 If we ever heard me, I'll pilo you, guys, I'll 2126 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:38.640 download it for Steam. 2127 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:40.520 I will disappoint you. 2128 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:43.279 I just like I know my limits and I'm gonna 2129 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:47.399 be like, was too big big of a boss? And 2130 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:50.600 I just like playing my little I'm playing Mais Mice 2131 01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:51.760 right now, you guys. 2132 01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:55.359 She's like, I have been settled into comfort. Is what 2133 01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:56.720 You're a comfortable person? 2134 01:34:57.159 --> 01:34:59.800 I have a comfort. I do play like horror games 2135 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.279 and that will like fuck me up, but like, I 2136 01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:03.800 just don't like playing games. 2137 01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:04.319 That make me sad. 2138 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:06.439 Did your cats knock something over? 2139 01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:08.479 No, that's me trying to grab a chip and I 2140 01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:12.600 knock something over. Can you see this? 2141 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:16.840 I really could have? Yes, I can double trouble triple 2142 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.479 if you consider you grabbing chips and knocking shit over. 2143 01:35:20.079 --> 01:35:22.199 Listen, I can't, but I suck at other games. Like 2144 01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:24.439 you're like you're good at video No, I'm good at 2145 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.239 the games that I'm willing to be good at. I'm 2146 01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:30.520 terrible at most games. I'm also a bad liar. So 2147 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:35.039 among Us did nothing for men twice. 2148 01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:38.119 Yeah, I agree, I fell off, but it had its 2149 01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:41.279 moment anyway, I like, legitimately am playing a game called 2150 01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:45.239 Maize Mice. It is a rogue light that is a 2151 01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:49.119 little bit Vampire Survivors because it is an auto shooter, 2152 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.439 so you don't have to attack right, like every time 2153 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:52.119 you get a power. 2154 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:55.039 I think it has. 2155 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:58.199 It's it's it's interesting, it's it's done in a very 2156 01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:00.000 different way, and let me try and do my best 2157 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:01.199 to explain it. But I do think if you like 2158 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:02.960 look it up, you can see a trailer that will help. 2159 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:07.079 But like you're in a pre selected maze, right, just 2160 01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:09.199 like a pac Man. Okay, and I actually think this 2161 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:14.039 game has pac Man inspiration. For sure. You need to 2162 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:17.319 collect these blue balls, which are like how you level 2163 01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:19.439 up and get I know, I think I'm gonna put 2164 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:21.600 it on our Game of the Year list for best 2165 01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.640 balls Dan, and you have to, like you have to 2166 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.199 get these balls that you can level up your experience 2167 01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:29.720 that way you can get more stuff. But the balls 2168 01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:33.079 are always by these sleeping cats. Now, once you walk 2169 01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:35.119 past a cat, the cats are going to chase. 2170 01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:37.079 You and they auto they're like. 2171 01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:42.640 Yes, and so you have to like do a path consistently. 2172 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.319 Here's the key part that I think I like about 2173 01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.640 this game. Time only moves when you do so if 2174 01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:52.520 at any point in time, yes, just like super Hot 2175 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:56.760 uh super Hot pac Man and Vampire Survivors. Anytime I 2176 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:59.640 want to take a break, I just don't move, and 2177 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.760 time is still. I can pee or make a drank 2178 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:06.079 or have a think about stuff, and then when I move, 2179 01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:07.279 everything moves too. 2180 01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:09.920 But it doesn't mean that you're safe. 2181 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.359 You have to be like constantly thinking about your next 2182 01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:16.000 move because the cats don't just follow you. They're sleeping 2183 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:18.960 cats before you get them block paths. So this is 2184 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.079 kind of like the designer of whoever made this is 2185 01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:23.720 like you have to wake up these cats because they. 2186 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.760 Will block your path and then you will get blocked in. 2187 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:31.319 Also, mice mays mice. As time progresses, there will be 2188 01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:34.359 a secondary enemy that goes through walls and does not 2189 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:38.560 follow your path. It's like a ghost and it just floats. 2190 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.600 And can find you. 2191 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:43.239 And so you have to start thinking strategically of like 2192 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:47.479 how you get past the cats that follow you, the mice, sorry, 2193 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.479 the ghosts that don't follow you. Really fun on mobile, 2194 01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:54.880 it's I think it's very casual and fun. This is 2195 01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:59.000 like a simple, casual but addictive gameplay mechanic. The art 2196 01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.880 to me leaves something be desired. I wish they put 2197 01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:05.239 a little bit more TLC into the to the style 2198 01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:08.279 of this game. Mid Max even stopped by when I 2199 01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:09.720 was streaming it and was like, what do you think 2200 01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:14.560 about the art style? And I was like game, Yes, 2201 01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:15.800 it's not expensive. 2202 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.119 This is an India as indie game, good Steam game, 2203 01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:20.319 good flight game. 2204 01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:23.199 I think you could enjoy this on a flight, especially 2205 01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:28.439 with your experience of liking both Vampire Survivors and pac Man. Yo, 2206 01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:31.199 you and I had a pac Man and flights. Dan 2207 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:34.279 loves a flight. I think you get into this for 2208 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:36.000 a couple hours. Do I think that this is the 2209 01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:37.960 game that you're gonna come back and be like Mary, 2210 01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:39.359 Oh my god, I'm so that No. 2211 01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:41.359 I don't think so, but I think this would eat 2212 01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:41.920 up a flight. 2213 01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:47.720 Yes, okay, oh yeah, I'm like hot and cold with 2214 01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:49.399 this game. I don't think it's bad or anything. I 2215 01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:52.079 actually think it does. I think it does stuff mechanically 2216 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.600 that I wish Vampire Survivors did, Like, I think it 2217 01:38:54.640 --> 01:38:56.840 plays with the map more. The fact that the sleeping 2218 01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:00.000 cats actually prevent you from taking certain pathways is small. 2219 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:03.000 I think it's like, this is a developer ass developer game. 2220 01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:05.319 You can tell. The dude was like, mechanically, I want 2221 01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:09.239 to evolve this genre, not just make another Vampire Survivors, 2222 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:12.560 And I respect that, but I just think like it's 2223 01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:16.199 also ultimately a little simple, and so it did get repetitive. 2224 01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:16.840 After three hours. 2225 01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:18.000 I was like, all right, I think I've seen this 2226 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.039 game generally speaking, and I don't think it's like amazing 2227 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.920 to look at. But that being said, oh, it also 2228 01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:27.119 has nice jazz music, which I like, so ooh some 2229 01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:28.880 jazzy tones. 2230 01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:30.279 As you were saying, anyway. 2231 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:33.640 Some some squeaky kurds playing some squeeze. 2232 01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:36.199 You never get that we're going to popularize this phrase. 2233 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:40.520 Yeah, squeaky chords was lighten it up. 2234 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:42.600 I was a safe speaking of pac Man. I played 2235 01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:43.880 some Shadow Labyrinth. 2236 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:45.520 What the fuck is that game? 2237 01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:47.279 Have you heard about it? Right? 2238 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:49.520 I've heard about it, but it's like a Demon pac Man, 2239 01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:52.039 but it's a Metrodvenea like Emo pac Man. 2240 01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:54.760 It is. You watched the Secret Level episode? Right? 2241 01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:55.359 No? 2242 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:57.239 Did you watch it? Mary? 2243 01:39:58.359 --> 01:39:59.399 What's a secret Level? 2244 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.760 Do you never wantch oh? Okay, it's totally listen. I 2245 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:05.680 only watched all of them because I had to review them, 2246 01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:09.920 but it was Amazon Primes, Love Death and Robots director 2247 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:14.600 made Secret Level and it's like fifteen minute like episodes like. 2248 01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:18.239 Don't tell Andy Jassey that I have not watched Amazon Primes. 2249 01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:23.000 See Amazon Prime video Secret Level, which is like they 2250 01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:26.159 have like a Mega Man episode, a Warhammer one, they 2251 01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:29.439 had a Spelunky one. It was Yeah, it was the 2252 01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:30.119 most random. 2253 01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:32.399 It felt like twenty minutes long. 2254 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.760 They're like, yeah, it was longer than the game's release, 2255 01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:38.640 is what it was. But they did a secret They 2256 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:41.039 did a pac Man one and it was like horrifying. 2257 01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:43.279 It was like this like guy wakes up in like 2258 01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:45.640 this prison. He's like eating all these monsters. You can 2259 01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:47.680 tell he's like getting sick from it. And then puck 2260 01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:50.560 like this giant yellow Ball was like you gotta eat 2261 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.119 or be eaten. You know. He did have a Brooklyn accent, 2262 01:40:53.159 --> 01:40:55.920 but he was just like, hey, you gotta eat or 2263 01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.640 beat you know. But like at the end he like 2264 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:05.279 turns his horrif we gotta go away. And then everyone 2265 01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:06.760 was like what the fuck was that? And then the 2266 01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:09.680 found out they made a game out of it? A 2267 01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:14.000 good it is interesting, for sure. 2268 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:15.720 It's not an answer. 2269 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:17.000 It's not bad. 2270 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:19.960 It's not give me, give me a number out of ten. 2271 01:41:23.159 --> 01:41:25.359 Depends on how you read the number. 2272 01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:31.279 Ratings a six point five to seven. We had to 2273 01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:35.760 skirt around it, i will say, because it's like a Metroidvania, 2274 01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:37.840 which I'm like, okay, that's pretty fucking smart to make 2275 01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:39.439 a metro Vani and pac Man game. 2276 01:41:40.239 --> 01:41:42.039 And like you can turn into pac Man and like 2277 01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:44.279 go along the walls and like jump and jump to 2278 01:41:44.359 --> 01:41:47.920 like discover new areas. But like there's mex there's like 2279 01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.840 cute anime girls. There's like months. It's like the ghosts 2280 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.960 are called g Hosts and they're like giant gun dam 2281 01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:56.920 with like gooey heads and like that. There's like hot 2282 01:41:56.960 --> 01:41:59.319 anime girls and you have to discover their secrets and 2283 01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.479 like Puck is like you're it's like, what the fuck 2284 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:04.680 they went off the wall and they were like and 2285 01:42:04.720 --> 01:42:07.439 they're so like, fuck, yeah we did. We're proud of 2286 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:09.439 this weird, unhinged thing. And I was like, you know what, 2287 01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:10.399 good for you guys? 2288 01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.079 I respect it is unhinged. 2289 01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:14.600 What what what doesn't do it for you? 2290 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.760 I think it's the art style really because metro veniy wise, 2291 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:21.720 it's very basic. It's very easy to figure out, but 2292 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:25.359 like I feel like it's almost like too funko poppy, 2293 01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:29.960 like where it's like they almost nailed it, but and 2294 01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:33.000 like it's not a cool character design. They have like 2295 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.439 a bunch of like other Bandai like Arcade references in there. 2296 01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:38.760 They got like a dig dug reference. It's like an 2297 01:42:38.840 --> 01:42:43.199 MCU type thing. But it's just a little too like 2298 01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:46.920 if you're gonna go full spooky full metroid dread on me, 2299 01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:50.479 like go full spooky, don't like add in hot anime girls, 2300 01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:51.920 and like it's like. 2301 01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:52.920 It doesn't know what it is. 2302 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:55.399 It doesn't really. It's just like they were like they 2303 01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.720 went all edge. It's like full edge. Lord, I should like. 2304 01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:01.279 It sounds to me like i'mmer Man acts zero when 2305 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:02.199 they suddenly. 2306 01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:05.560 It's almost like pac Man himself is going to say 2307 01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:07.720 a slur halfway through the game, Like, that's the kind 2308 01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:09.640 of vibe I got from it. 2309 01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:12.279 Is Puck ever addressed as pac Man? Do they say 2310 01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:13.760 pac Man in the game at any point? 2311 01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:16.319 I didn't play long enough to find out, but Puck 2312 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.239 is technically pac Man and. 2313 01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:27.800 Half out of his mouth more like he's he's fucking 2314 01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:30.359 balls every game. 2315 01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:32.760 Would be cooler if he was like an old cook 2316 01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:35.520 from like Brooklyn, but instead he's like a redditor. 2317 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:37.359 But also pac Man. 2318 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:40.319 Yeah, but the combat, like if you like metro vanias, 2319 01:43:40.319 --> 01:43:43.359 like if you like Basia, that's I do. 2320 01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.319 I head around the pac Man part of this. This 2321 01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:48.079 seems so nebulous. 2322 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:50.159 I know, and isn't Metroid pac Man. Also because it's 2323 01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:50.920 also ball. 2324 01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:54.279 Form, I guess. Yeah, so instead of the spider ball, 2325 01:43:54.399 --> 01:43:56.800 you turn into pac Man and does the walk walk 2326 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:58.960 a sound? So that's more like I was like, oh, 2327 01:43:58.960 --> 01:43:59.760 you can make. 2328 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:04.439 Yeah, can you turn it into pac Man at any 2329 01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:05.880 point or is it just specific? 2330 01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:09.520 Yeah, on certain lines or whatever, you can turn to 2331 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.560 pac Man and collect the dots, and the dots help 2332 01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:14.560 you like level up your sword blah blah blah, and 2333 01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:17.279 then during like boss fights, you just sword fight them. 2334 01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:20.279 It's very like Hollow Night. And then when you kill them, 2335 01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:22.920 Puck turns in this like giant grotesque creature and like 2336 01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:25.479 eats it, and it's like you got to eat to 2337 01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:27.560 figure out the secrets of this tunnel and the hot 2338 01:44:27.600 --> 01:44:30.960 anime girls. And I'm like, okay, fine, whatever you say, 2339 01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:31.920 mister pac Man. 2340 01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:35.239 I think ten minutes ago, I was somewhat curious about 2341 01:44:35.279 --> 01:44:37.319 what this game is, and I think after hearing more 2342 01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:40.600 about it, I think I'm less interested. 2343 01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:45.880 You should definitely watch like gameplay of it, like it's it. Yeah, 2344 01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:48.640 if you like basic metro Vanea, it might hit the spot, 2345 01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:50.640 but the I feel like it's just a little too 2346 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:51.479 edgy for me. 2347 01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:55.039 Yeah, there's a lot of really good Metrovanians that don't do. 2348 01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:57.520 If it wasn't Man, I think it'd be fine. But 2349 01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:59.039 the fact that pac Man is like. 2350 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:04.560 Weird choice to make it pac Man adjacent very strange. 2351 01:45:05.079 --> 01:45:07.119 It does get us talking about it, though. 2352 01:45:07.159 --> 01:45:08.960 Yeah, I mean like people are like, what the fuck 2353 01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:10.600 did they do the Packman? Like, to be fair, there 2354 01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:12.520 is no story to pac Man, like. 2355 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:15.439 You're you get married kids. 2356 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:21.600 Yeah, but it's like I always thought it was miss 2357 01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:23.960 pac Man like, it's actually missus pac Man, like she's 2358 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:29.960 divorced in my head. Okay, oh sure, or mister pac 2359 01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:32.000 Man and miss Pacman could be the same thing. You 2360 01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.000 never know, Miss Pacman could be the drag pac Man. 2361 01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:35.760 You never know. 2362 01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:38.600 I like I would play drag pac Man. 2363 01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:40.760 That's why they have like a bow tie and in 2364 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.279 the lip do this is drag makeup? You know? 2365 01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:44.279 Right? 2366 01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.760 That does help me, like, because it's not just disney fied. 2367 01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:49.960 It's not like we slapped some eyelashes on her now 2368 01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:54.239 you're right. It's like there's like an actual concept behind 2369 01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:57.039 it of a dude who's just this had enough balls 2370 01:45:57.439 --> 01:45:58.720 and haven't we all. 2371 01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:01.159 The serial level episod what I think is worth watching. 2372 01:46:01.239 --> 01:46:02.920 I actually liked it and then they're like, oh they 2373 01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:05.520 actually made a game out of this. Oh okay, never mind. 2374 01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:09.079 It's like, oh, you were serious type situation. 2375 01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.199 It's pretty neat though, but yeah, maybe not. 2376 01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:17.560 It's a hard cell, but I like think, like generally speaking, 2377 01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:21.159 there's probably like some interest in there. I genuinely do 2378 01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:22.479 love a metroid, so like. 2379 01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:26.600 Listen it was it was I checked it out just 2380 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:28.199 to check it out, and I was like, all right. 2381 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.680 I played a few hours, got through a few bosses. 2382 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.199 It's fun, but it has to have some kind of 2383 01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:36.199 cool level design or artwork or character design for me 2384 01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:40.000 to really catch on. And it does not Like Hia 2385 01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:41.960 I was so simple? How is the pac Man team 2386 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:43.560 not following something like that? 2387 01:46:44.279 --> 01:46:47.079 Everybody else is copied Hollow Night to Dead because it's 2388 01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:51.399 actually a genius piece of art. Dan, you've been playing 2389 01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.840 Donkey Kong Bananza, how's that transition party? 2390 01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:58.479 It is just it's one of those games where I 2391 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:00.159 feel like when people were in a room and they 2392 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:01.840 put a picture of me on the wall and they said, 2393 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:05.680 make a game for that guy. And every fucking thing 2394 01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:08.920 this game does is just lighting up my brain making 2395 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:11.000 me happy. It is the most like in terms of 2396 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:15.119 time to fun. It is the fastest I've maybe ever seen, 2397 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:17.960 because you get a five or ten second cut scene 2398 01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:20.640 just showing like here's ingot ale, and then it's like 2399 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:23.800 your Donkey Kong and there's no It doesn't pause for 2400 01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:29.119 tutorial stuff. It doesn't explain anything stuff. Yeah, three out 2401 01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:31.640 of the four face buttons are just for fucking things up, 2402 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:33.800 So it is just you know, fuck things up, forward, 2403 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:37.119 fuckings up up, fuck things up, down, and jump, which 2404 01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:40.399 that's like the ideal face button assortment for me. And 2405 01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:44.880 you can just dig through I would say, like ninety 2406 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.920 percent of the environment. Like they will occasionally gate things 2407 01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:51.079 with like here's a steel wall or something like that 2408 01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:53.119 that you have to figure out your way around, but 2409 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:56.840 everything can be climbed and not like stamina meter, which look, 2410 01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:58.960 I love Breath the Wild and here's the Kingdom, like 2411 01:47:58.960 --> 01:48:01.840 my favorite games ever. Makes sense why they would have stamina. 2412 01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:04.960 But if you're Donkey Kong, just this big dumb idiot, 2413 01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:07.960 the idea of being able to infinitely climb up every 2414 01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:12.319 wall and destroy every piece of the environment and chuck enemies, 2415 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:16.039 chuck things at enemies, turn into a fucking zebra turn 2416 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.960 it like it's just it is complete controlled chaos. Like 2417 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:23.039 I am jamming on the face buttons in a way 2418 01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:25.039 that I have not done in games in a long time, 2419 01:48:25.079 --> 01:48:28.479 where I am just leveling these areas and at any 2420 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:31.039 point you could fuck up an area so much that 2421 01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:33.760 it's like broken. You can't get from point A to 2422 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:36.399 point B, and you can always reset the terrain, which 2423 01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:39.640 is kind of an insane thing on the tech side. 2424 01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:42.840 It is it's got so much personality. It's got a 2425 01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:45.880 lot of Mario Otissey DNA like, especially like in the 2426 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:47.600 boss fights things like that, a lot of stuff like 2427 01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:50.640 the fonts, just that idea of like in Mario Odyssey, 2428 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:54.000 where everywhere you walked there was something and it's like, hey, 2429 01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:56.640 what's that thing that's weird? Oh that's a moon. Okay, 2430 01:48:56.720 --> 01:48:59.279 that's a challenge for a moon. Same way here where 2431 01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:02.439 it's like whether you're digging through a thing or helping 2432 01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:05.880 a weird blue crystal with eyes find his children, Like 2433 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:10.319 there's just shit everywhere you look. And I have not 2434 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.560 been bored for a second. I'm probably like ten hours 2435 01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:15.760 into this game. I have hundreds of bananas, and I'm 2436 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:17.520 going to be sad when this game is over. 2437 01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:20.279 It is so fun, so jealous of everyone got a 2438 01:49:20.319 --> 01:49:20.840 switch to. 2439 01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:24.119 Oh it is? Do you like a Lisa? Are you 2440 01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:25.079 into like Breath the Wild? 2441 01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:27.159 Oh my god, I'm yeah. I was a Nintendo fan 2442 01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:30.119 every Nintendo console ever made, So. 2443 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:31.880 You know how like Breath the Wild, Like you know, 2444 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:34.239 you you get past that tutorial area and it's just 2445 01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:37.079 like kill Gannon is the thing, and like I love 2446 01:49:37.399 --> 01:49:40.039 that open endedness of just like figured out I don't 2447 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.119 know kill ganon like it basically has that with Donkey Kong, 2448 01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:46.079 where you get past the very early tutorial level and 2449 01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:51.880 it's just like get more bananas. That's the whole fucking goal. Bananas. 2450 01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:53.399 Mary, did you get a switch to? 2451 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:55.920 I do have a switch to, but I haven't played 2452 01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:58.680 this game yet, and I actually saw some like negative 2453 01:49:58.720 --> 01:49:59.920 reviews which I'm confused by. 2454 01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:03.640 Who's just doggy Kong wasn't hot enough, that's what they 2455 01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:04.439 all say. 2456 01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:07.319 I will not docks the people who dislikes this game, 2457 01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:10.800 but I think I actually like got a negative original 2458 01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:13.760 perception and you are completely changing my mind on it. 2459 01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.840 Well, so I'm curious, what did you hear as the 2460 01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:16.439 negative thing? 2461 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:19.720 I heard some people just say it's like crazy repetitive 2462 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:23.239 where it's essentially like you hit everything, you basically. 2463 01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:27.159 Just put that everything. It's like Ladie's mansion. 2464 01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:30.159 I mean, I think that's like a fair defense though, 2465 01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:32.720 which is like some people like that. I also heard 2466 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:35.119 like maybe that it just doesn't evolve, like you don't 2467 01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:37.680 actually ever, like it doesn't expand no. 2468 01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:40.079 It does, it does, and it's not a one trick 2469 01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.720 pony like obviously the main mechanic is just like beating 2470 01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:46.119 through mountains and shit like that and destroying the environment. 2471 01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:49.279 But like ten hours in or wherever I am, you know, 2472 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:51.439 you get a zebra power where it's like, okay, I'm 2473 01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:54.199 in this creamery. I'm in this like ice cream factory, 2474 01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:57.239 and it makes these ice bridges and if Donkey Kong 2475 01:50:57.359 --> 01:50:59.720 tries to run across them, he just falls through. But 2476 01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:03.000 if you can unlock the Zebra bonanza skill, you can 2477 01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.279 turn into Zebra Kong and he could run really fast 2478 01:51:06.319 --> 01:51:08.640 and fast enough to where he could run over water. 2479 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:10.960 He can run over you know, the ice cream bridge 2480 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:13.039 or whatever. So like, and there I can tell the 2481 01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:15.520 there's a skill tree. Don' Kygong has a fucking skill tree. 2482 01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:18.359 He never has that. And so you can choose which 2483 01:51:18.479 --> 01:51:21.960 bonanza form you want to take for each And I 2484 01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:24.319 have two out of what looks like four or five. 2485 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:26.159 And I think it's gonna be those things where it's 2486 01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:27.920 situational where it's like, okay, you got to run fast, 2487 01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:29.359 be a zebra. You need to be the shit out 2488 01:51:29.399 --> 01:51:32.279 of some stuff. Be this bonanza gorilla thing. So I 2489 01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:34.720 didn't get to play a ton because I was in 2490 01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:38.279 Wisconsin this weekend, but like so I'm fairly early there's 2491 01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:39.880 clearly going to be a lot of stuff that it's 2492 01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:43.159 going to introduce. I've heard some frustrations about like later 2493 01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:45.600 levels and things like that, so can't speak to the 2494 01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.079 whole game, but everything I've played so far, I have 2495 01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:52.039 not been bored for a nanosecond playing it. I've just 2496 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:54.560 been smiling and having a great fucking. 2497 01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:57.159 Time I've been I played like an hour of it 2498 01:51:57.239 --> 01:52:00.199 at like a Tenova, and I just stayed in the 2499 01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:01.960 first area and they're like, you should move on the 2500 01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:04.720 next areas, Like, I can't stop punching things. I'm stuck here. 2501 01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:05.199 Yeah. 2502 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:07.239 If this whole game was this one level, it'd be 2503 01:52:07.279 --> 01:52:08.680 my favorite game. Yeah. 2504 01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:11.399 Yeah, I would play it until I destroy every part 2505 01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:11.920 of this level. 2506 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:14.520 And my OCDM he was like, I must get everything. 2507 01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:17.199 Yeah, I feel like on a switch to it's gonna 2508 01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:19.479 be really fun to just play that, like play a 2509 01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:21.520 couple like fun levels where you just smash stuff in 2510 01:52:21.560 --> 01:52:25.720 between like work or flight or whatever has you. So 2511 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:27.880 it just seems like it probably lends itself really well 2512 01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:28.800 to the person on the go. 2513 01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:32.119 Yeah, and I've heard like some complaints about like frame 2514 01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:35.000 rate drops and stuff like that. Anyone who's complaining about 2515 01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:37.960 that is just a dumb weird baby, because it is 2516 01:52:38.039 --> 01:52:41.800 doing incredible shit with Like, like the Switch Too isn't 2517 01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:44.600 the most powerful hardware in the world. The frame Like, 2518 01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:47.840 I love a good frame rate. It doesn't. It drops 2519 01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:50.560 very briefly sometimes when it goes into a cut scene 2520 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:51.199 or something like that. 2521 01:52:51.319 --> 01:52:53.920 So who cares you, dumb. 2522 01:52:53.680 --> 01:52:55.760 Weird baby being a dumb weird baby. 2523 01:52:55.800 --> 01:52:58.600 You're not watching a movie. You're playing Donkey. 2524 01:52:58.279 --> 01:53:02.680 Kong, yes, and you are doing incredibly leveling entire areas 2525 01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:06.359 of this map and it performs very well. So I 2526 01:53:07.079 --> 01:53:09.359 fucking love this game. I'll report back once I've beaten 2527 01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:11.439 it and things like that. I can't imagine all suddenly 2528 01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:13.840 not like this thing. I've loved every second of. But 2529 01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:16.560 fucking this is the killer app of the Switch Too. 2530 01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:19.359 I love Mario Kart World, but this is this is 2531 01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:20.279 the one for this year. 2532 01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:25.159 It's also setting up success for a better Mario game 2533 01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:26.199 coming out at some point. 2534 01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:30.399 Oh god, if they do like the Bowser's fury style, Like, oh, I. 2535 01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:32.720 Think that's one thing I love about Nintendo is like 2536 01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.800 every game they play, like every franchise game, the next 2537 01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:38.399 one you're like, they added this thing. Oh that means 2538 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:40.399 this game is gonna be awesome. Oh they did this 2539 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:42.119 thing to this game. Oh this next game is gonna 2540 01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:46.800 be fucking awesome. Yep, I need to get one. 2541 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:47.560 I get one. 2542 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:48.199 It's good. 2543 01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:51.640 I know. I'm scared of my my wallet and my 2544 01:53:51.720 --> 01:53:54.840 mental health if I I'm like, I gotta like do 2545 01:53:54.960 --> 01:53:57.119 stuff and like go places. Oh you can bring your 2546 01:53:57.119 --> 01:53:59.199 switch to I know I can't, and you don't tell 2547 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:04.479 me that three weeks. Can I get a switch to 2548 01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:05.039 by then? 2549 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:08.479 You have to get it before then you have to 2550 01:54:08.479 --> 01:54:09.560 get down before that. 2551 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:16.039 Let's do at least five without your switch to get 2552 01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:20.119 on the international flight card. 2553 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:23.279 I'm playing a pull an all nighter on that flight too, 2554 01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:26.119 So maybe I should get one. Are they easy to 2555 01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:26.520 get now? 2556 01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:30.880 Choo's Warriors sixty four if you follow them like you know, 2557 01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:32.720 he'll post, I go best Buy's got them, targets got 2558 01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:34.920 them or whatever? Like they're not that hard to get now. 2559 01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:38.800 Yeah, they're not like p S five when they came out. 2560 01:54:39.359 --> 01:54:40.520 Get one for like three years? 2561 01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:42.479 No, No, you could probably come down. 2562 01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:46.479 Okay, do it before your fly. Okay, let's do the 2563 01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:49.079 uh listen, London is going to be expensive, But I 2564 01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:51.199 guess I'll just spend my London money on a switch 2565 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:57.000 to Yeah yeah, here you go perfect? Yeah Yeah, I. 2566 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:00.920 Played a These are like quick ones. I plaid uh. 2567 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.960 Uma, the Pretty Dirty, I think Dan. 2568 01:55:06.279 --> 01:55:09.039 I played horse Girl. I didn't play for very long. 2569 01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:09.680 I actually quit. 2570 01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:13.560 This is like my this was my kryptonite. It just 2571 01:55:13.640 --> 01:55:14.520 doesn't work for me. 2572 01:55:14.840 --> 01:55:15.960 Is it just a game? 2573 01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:18.960 It seems it seems like a meme game or a 2574 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:20.079 like pervert game. 2575 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:21.960 People tand. 2576 01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:27.920 I do think it has deep gaming built into it, 2577 01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:30.560 and people don't play a lot of hours into it, 2578 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:34.439 and it's like a lot of the well, there's like 2579 01:55:34.520 --> 01:55:38.039 deep gameplay of like actually growing these. 2580 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:38.760 Would you. 2581 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:40.840 Bronie? 2582 01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:44.720 Those aren't those the people who are into my Little Pony? 2583 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.560 Are this? Like is this we Bronie? Is this anime? 2584 01:55:48.319 --> 01:55:52.520 Wee Bronie's You're like growing their skill sets, you're training them, 2585 01:55:52.600 --> 01:55:54.199 you're educating them, You're making sure that. 2586 01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:58.000 There's training girls of horse race that I just didn't 2587 01:55:58.039 --> 01:56:04.319 get past. I hate anime, strong position, I'm with you. 2588 01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:13.399 I like the occasional anime experience and I love the 2589 01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:15.880 anime in general, but like, this game to. 2590 01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:18.159 Me is just so obscure and it's really tough. 2591 01:56:18.239 --> 01:56:20.439 And then after you like beat a race, they actually 2592 01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:23.439 do like a little dance, like they actually do like 2593 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:30.760 a K pop style yes and no, And you get 2594 01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:34.680 to choose their little outfit so I can be like, 2595 01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:37.880 I want you to have like red hair and pigtails, 2596 01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:39.680 and I want her to have like a short bob, 2597 01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:42.239 and you're all going to wear the same cute little dress. 2598 01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:44.199 And then I was like, I don't know, like this 2599 01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:46.720 isn't probably what I want out of my video game, 2600 01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:47.520 and so I quit. 2601 01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:51.279 Yeah, I guess I'm like dressing up Donkey Kong. 2602 01:56:51.720 --> 01:56:53.840 I also think it's oh, sorry. 2603 01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:57.479 Like the dressing up stuff, Like, I guess I'm dressing 2604 01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:00.319 up Donkey Kong, but his his pants have abilities. His 2605 01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:03.399 swimming bridges helped me swim Donkey Kongs hot. 2606 01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:06.239 Okay, I'm more attracted Donkey Kong than a horse racing 2607 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:08.720 an all right, I'm. 2608 01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:09.760 Gonna back out of this whole thing. 2609 01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:11.960 You had me for a second being like, oh, I 2610 01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:14.279 think these anime girls might be for like little weirdos, 2611 01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:16.199 and I was like, that's unfair, but like I can also. 2612 01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:18.000 Understand the old man with a joe. 2613 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.840 Okay, fuck Donkey Kong, Lisa, that's weird. 2614 01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:25.600 The girls are definitely high schoolers or junior high. Donkey 2615 01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:32.479 Kong is a family man. He is a he's still 2616 01:57:32.479 --> 01:57:33.159 a family man. 2617 01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:35.720 He's very close. 2618 01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.640 With his brothers. He's very close. 2619 01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:41.800 Did he Kong and all that a nephew and I 2620 01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:42.720 think crank, he's. 2621 01:57:43.640 --> 01:57:46.199 He's a family Manna, he's so family he's close with 2622 01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:46.640 his nephew. 2623 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:47.479 Both kervers. 2624 01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:55.319 Donkey Kong is of age. Okay, this is not that 2625 01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:57.720 is also a he did not have to give Donkey 2626 01:57:57.800 --> 01:57:59.920 Kong a juicy ass if they didn't want me to 2627 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:00.720 thirst over it. 2628 01:58:01.079 --> 01:58:05.119 Okay, you can't just say that because he's caked up, 2629 01:58:05.159 --> 01:58:07.279 you're allowed to bang. That's just not how it works. 2630 01:58:07.279 --> 01:58:08.560 I mean, I would ask. 2631 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:14.319 Bringing up consent, your consent, queen, but that's not why 2632 01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:16.159 I that's not the problem I do. 2633 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:19.000 We have confromation that Donkey Kong knows English? Could you 2634 01:58:19.199 --> 01:58:20.279 could he answer consents? 2635 01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:22.159 And I'm googling how old is Donkey Kong? 2636 01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:27.279 Actually do they say, oh banana, Yeah, he's twenty four 2637 01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:27.880 years old. 2638 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:32.279 Twenty fo say oh banana he has twenty four he's 2639 01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:35.560 forty four, forty four that I'm younger than Donkey Kong. 2640 01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:38.800 Hell yeah, wait no I think this is Ai telling 2641 01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:40.560 me the games are forty four years old. 2642 01:58:40.600 --> 01:58:44.720 Oh you know they're right. One that might be close 2643 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:45.039 to right. 2644 01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:47.920 He's twenty years old in human years, I'm saying forty. 2645 01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:50.279 I'm seeing consent consensual. 2646 01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:52.159 Donkey Kong is years for sure. 2647 01:58:52.840 --> 01:58:57.960 The USO Moomey girls they're twelve, okay, And if they 2648 01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:00.520 are like five hundred year old vampires, there's twelve year 2649 01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:05.880 old girls. Okay. Wow. Everyone get mad at Lisa because 2650 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:09.800 she thinks Donkey Kong hot. Okay, I'm not I'm not mad. 2651 01:59:10.199 --> 01:59:12.760 I'm concerned. I think you guys both know too much 2652 01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:15.840 about Donkey Kong. I think that there's just a lot 2653 01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.800 of descriptors going on about his butt cheeks, and I 2654 01:59:18.960 --> 01:59:20.359 just think we should take a chill pill for a 2655 01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:23.159 second and really think about what we're doing here as 2656 01:59:23.199 --> 01:59:23.800 a podcast. 2657 01:59:25.359 --> 01:59:26.760 Donkey is an adult. 2658 01:59:27.319 --> 01:59:29.840 I'm going to get in trouble from this podcast, Like 2659 01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:31.720 we can't orry because you want to fuck Donkey Kong. 2660 01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:34.560 I'm sorry, and. 2661 01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:36.000 Then you won't be able to buy a switch to 2662 01:59:36.159 --> 01:59:38.479 which means you won't be able to goon Donkey Kong. 2663 01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:40.720 You've seen the meme of him with the butt where 2664 01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:49.640 He's like, no, are just sitting on there. You know. 2665 01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:54.039 It's funny, you know, like we just have different vibes 2666 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:58.239 when it comes to big fat cheeks, Lisa, what. 2667 01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:01.119 Big fat cheeks? And the games? Do you want to fuck? 2668 02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:09.520 I like him flat as a board, Lisa, you gotta 2669 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:15.920 come back with something. Okay, Well, you're known for liking 2670 02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:20.479 juicy butts. You have an emo on Twitch that's a 2671 02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:21.279 snake with. 2672 02:00:21.479 --> 02:00:24.199 A big fat but oh yeah, snake. What a dream 2673 02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:27.359 like snake and like metal your soliding because of games? 2674 02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:30.319 Thank you? Give me a man with acne scars and 2675 02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:34.239 like an aftershave, like I that's that's that's what I want. 2676 02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:35.680 You knows. 2677 02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.279 Of course he does. Have you not come on meddle 2678 02:00:39.319 --> 02:00:41.720 yourself for when he's doing the worm, that's all you see. 2679 02:00:42.840 --> 02:00:46.640 All you see is snakes. Ask the entire game. 2680 02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:48.880 I really don't think I've spent a lot of time 2681 02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:49.760 noticing snakes. 2682 02:00:49.800 --> 02:00:51.359 That's how we know you're a straight man. 2683 02:00:51.720 --> 02:00:58.479 Okay, good congratulations, Dan, you've passed the test. You're straight 2684 02:00:58.520 --> 02:00:59.039 as an arrow. 2685 02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:03.439 You've seen David Hayter. He has cameo and he's like 2686 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:06.960 been doing the memes and he's like, oh, the clap 2687 02:01:07.039 --> 02:01:08.800 of my ass, she's alerting guards. 2688 02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.159 So is it just like old man Snake doing the 2689 02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:16.800 crawl thing? Is that when he noticed the butt? 2690 02:01:17.399 --> 02:01:19.600 I mean it's pretty I mean I played the game 2691 02:01:19.680 --> 02:01:21.640 two years ago and it's like what you noticed most 2692 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:23.279 of the games. Like, I can't pick this game seriously 2693 02:01:23.319 --> 02:01:26.039 because I just see his little lumps on the ground, 2694 02:01:26.199 --> 02:01:28.239 just like just on the wrong while there's like war 2695 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:29.239 happening everywhere. 2696 02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:35.960 You guys had such a different experience, didn't you notice, 2697 02:01:36.039 --> 02:01:37.840 Like there was a huge thing at Fortnite when they 2698 02:01:37.840 --> 02:01:40.159 put Snake in there that they like de asked him, 2699 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:42.840 they gave him like the flat yeah, and and like 2700 02:01:43.319 --> 02:01:45.760 I mean look at his Look at that snake ass 2701 02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:46.279 right there. 2702 02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:52.159 Wow, they caked him up. Man, he's caked up and 2703 02:01:52.920 --> 02:01:53.319 most of them. 2704 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.720 Maybe I should, Maybe I should play metal games. 2705 02:01:55.800 --> 02:01:59.399 You should, Mary you, I would love to hear your 2706 02:01:59.439 --> 02:02:01.119 thoughts on I just. 2707 02:02:01.199 --> 02:02:04.199 Kind of want to review that fat cake. 2708 02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:05.520 That's crazy. 2709 02:02:05.960 --> 02:02:07.640 It is weird because like you're talking about middle of 2710 02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:09.880 your solid for Lisa, and he's doing the krawl thing, 2711 02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:11.960 but like he's like an old ass man in that. 2712 02:02:12.479 --> 02:02:16.800 But he's like that whole game is just like ripped 2713 02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:17.520 old dudes. 2714 02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:21.640 Yeah, you should absolutely play metal your solid It is 2715 02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:24.640 just ripped old dudes that are very vulnerable. 2716 02:02:24.760 --> 02:02:29.479 I'm listening out of each other on top of a submarine. 2717 02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:32.119 They all they all smell bad, but like in a 2718 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:34.399 sexy way, like that's the worst. They're explaining it. 2719 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:38.880 And I'm listening. 2720 02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:41.279 You have not played Have you played a medal year? 2721 02:02:41.960 --> 02:02:42.720 Not a one? 2722 02:02:43.079 --> 02:02:44.640 Oh god, it's okay. 2723 02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:48.359 I was late to the game. They're so good, Lisa. 2724 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:50.800 So your history here you were telling me before we 2725 02:02:50.920 --> 02:02:53.119 recorded fairly recently you went through them. 2726 02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:57.800 All, right, Yeah, in the last three years. 2727 02:02:58.560 --> 02:02:59.960 Generally, big thumbs up. 2728 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:02.800 Oh my god, they hold up. Even the you know 2729 02:03:02.960 --> 02:03:06.399 PS one PS two graphics they still hold up because 2730 02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:10.159 they're so silly and they're not you know, they're stealth games. 2731 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:12.399 So I'm not I don't usually play stealth games, so 2732 02:03:12.399 --> 02:03:14.319 how to get used to that? But it was just like, 2733 02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:17.399 you know, the stupid things where it's like give yourself 2734 02:03:17.439 --> 02:03:19.680 a massage and you have to like shake the controller. 2735 02:03:19.720 --> 02:03:21.920 I'm like, what is this warrior shit that's going on? 2736 02:03:22.239 --> 02:03:24.199 Hold the dual shock up to your arm too? Yeah. 2737 02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:26.319 Yeah, I had to borrow someone's PS three so I 2738 02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:29.880 could play uh three and four. But like I remember 2739 02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:33.560 in like Meddle Year Solid two when you're fighting who 2740 02:03:33.720 --> 02:03:35.760 is the guy where it's like he hacks your game. 2741 02:03:35.640 --> 02:03:40.279 And thank you cycle man. 2742 02:03:42.279 --> 02:03:43.880 Yeah, where it's like you're trying to figure out to 2743 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:45.880 kill him and you have to like switch your controller 2744 02:03:45.960 --> 02:03:48.119 to a report and I was like, because he hacks 2745 02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:50.680 your game. It's there's so much silly things in there 2746 02:03:50.720 --> 02:03:53.880 that are like breaking the fourth wall, that are like 2747 02:03:54.079 --> 02:03:56.399 oh and and also like I don't care about the 2748 02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:58.960 story as much. Everyone's like, oh the lore. I'm like, 2749 02:03:59.039 --> 02:03:59.800 I don't care. 2750 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:01.920 About I'm a lower doer with it. 2751 02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:05.119 Yeah. I've had to watch so many videos and I'm like, 2752 02:04:05.239 --> 02:04:07.479 this is like dark Souls. I just don't understand it, 2753 02:04:08.039 --> 02:04:10.399 but I still enjoy it. You would love them, and 2754 02:04:10.479 --> 02:04:13.880 they're great reaction games. I think like I had the 2755 02:04:13.960 --> 02:04:16.239 most viewership I had playing Metal Gear Solids. 2756 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:20.319 Yeah, it is Meddle Year. Fans love seeing people experience 2757 02:04:20.399 --> 02:04:22.199 it for the first time. I did that with Through 2758 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:23.800 Scalen and Giant Bond back in the day. I did 2759 02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:26.039 my sister played through them all like a year or 2760 02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:28.159 two ago, and like it is just so fun because 2761 02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:31.399 there's so much nonsense, but like the best kind of 2762 02:04:31.479 --> 02:04:33.399 nonsense that happens, where it's like, yeah, I gotta see 2763 02:04:33.399 --> 02:04:35.319 how my sister reacts to the end of Metal Year 2764 02:04:35.359 --> 02:04:38.439 Solid two and that whole AI Kernel stuff and everything 2765 02:04:38.800 --> 02:04:41.039 and the fight with the end. It's just you. You 2766 02:04:41.199 --> 02:04:44.359 can't predict where it's going next from a gameplay a sense, 2767 02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:48.560 from a story sense. The timeline of that game is insane. 2768 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:52.239 It's I think it is my favorite game to watch 2769 02:04:52.319 --> 02:04:53.800 people experience for sure. 2770 02:04:54.319 --> 02:04:56.920 Yeah, and they and I it makes me get fomo 2771 02:04:57.239 --> 02:04:59.319 that I wasn't a like into them when they came 2772 02:04:59.399 --> 02:05:01.920 out because of the the way they marketed the games too, 2773 02:05:02.319 --> 02:05:05.000 Like that was a big part of like, like Melarsald two, 2774 02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:07.319 they didn't say Snake was in the game he plays 2775 02:05:07.439 --> 02:05:09.600 ride in and everyone was mad about that. But Snake 2776 02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:12.319 is actually in the game. His name's Iroquois, which means 2777 02:05:12.319 --> 02:05:14.640 snake and like some Native American language or. 2778 02:05:14.640 --> 02:05:17.760 Something, Iroboy Pliskin, and Pliskin was Snake from Escape from 2779 02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:18.119 New York. 2780 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:20.800 Yeah, and I was like, this is so dumb, Like 2781 02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:24.640 he's just some guy but looks just like Snake and 2782 02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:28.119 he's voiced by David Hayder. Yeah, and I love five. 2783 02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:30.199 Five was just like best gameplay wise. 2784 02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:32.520 That's the thing. Five is weird because it's like I 2785 02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:35.039 love the lore and so five is like definitely the 2786 02:05:35.079 --> 02:05:37.600 best gameplay wise, but the weakest story wise. So it's 2787 02:05:37.600 --> 02:05:39.399 like I kind of rate it the lowest of the 2788 02:05:39.439 --> 02:05:42.119 Metal Years, even though I enjoyed playing it the most. 2789 02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:46.359 If you play him, I will I will watch all 2790 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:46.600 of that. 2791 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:49.039 Oh well, we didn't. 2792 02:05:51.479 --> 02:05:52.319 Pay attention to you. 2793 02:05:53.159 --> 02:05:56.079 I will watch all that. Yeah, Dan playing through them 2794 02:05:56.119 --> 02:06:00.119 with metal Gear Scanlon basically played them with Mike, my 2795 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:02.960 coworker Drew, and they're they're pretty funny. I've seen some 2796 02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:04.960 of it, but i've been, I've been. I'ven't watched all 2797 02:06:05.000 --> 02:06:06.800 of them because it's spoilers too if I ever want 2798 02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:07.359 to play through it. 2799 02:06:07.479 --> 02:06:11.439 But yeah, you're not even remember the story anyways. I heard. 2800 02:06:11.479 --> 02:06:12.159 It's maddening. 2801 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:14.399 It took me years to kind of like figure out 2802 02:06:14.399 --> 02:06:15.840 what was happening in this story. But like you know, 2803 02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:17.720 lista to what you said. Like, I was very much 2804 02:06:17.880 --> 02:06:19.960 like I was a fourteen year old boy when the 2805 02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:21.840 first one came out, the first Middle Year Solid, which 2806 02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:25.039 I cannot imagine a better age to be for that. 2807 02:06:25.239 --> 02:06:26.479 Now you're a fifteen year old boy. 2808 02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:31.960 That's right emotionally yeah. But the second one with like 2809 02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:34.199 all the previews and everything being all snake, you didn't 2810 02:06:34.199 --> 02:06:35.960 know about the ride and stuff. I was working at 2811 02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:37.600 a funkal Land which became game. 2812 02:06:37.520 --> 02:06:40.119 Spot later and wow, what a throwback. 2813 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:42.640 Yes, yes, and I had not been spoiled at all, 2814 02:06:42.800 --> 02:06:44.800 and like middle year, Solid two was the most excited 2815 02:06:44.800 --> 02:06:47.319 I've ever been for a game. And my fucking manager, 2816 02:06:47.439 --> 02:06:50.439 Kevin at funkal Land, we got the strategy guys in 2817 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:53.039 before we got the game in, and he was like 2818 02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:55.319 looking through it and he was like, huh, I don't 2819 02:06:55.319 --> 02:06:57.279 think you play a snake in this game. And I 2820 02:06:57.319 --> 02:06:58.439 was like, what do you tell you? I'm not going 2821 02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:00.000 to fall for this. What the fuck you talking about? Kevin? 2822 02:07:00.039 --> 02:07:03.239 And he's like, no, you're some blonde guy. I've seen 2823 02:07:03.279 --> 02:07:06.000 the trailers. I've been following this obsessively. It's metal gear 2824 02:07:06.039 --> 02:07:08.479 Solid to your Snake and just showed me the strategy 2825 02:07:08.520 --> 02:07:12.880 guide and every fucking screenshot was this blonde guy and 2826 02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:15.640 I was like, what the fuck is this? And so 2827 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:18.680 it was kind of spoiled for me. I still love 2828 02:07:18.760 --> 02:07:21.479 that twist, but I definitely, you know, fuck Kevin forever. 2829 02:07:21.359 --> 02:07:25.079 For that, But I uh, I mean that was the 2830 02:07:25.079 --> 02:07:27.239 whole reason why I started playing Desk Tranding because I 2831 02:07:27.359 --> 02:07:30.079 was like, after that, I was like, well, since Kojima 2832 02:07:30.159 --> 02:07:33.000 left Konami, I got to see how desk Stranding is like, 2833 02:07:33.800 --> 02:07:37.720 and it had a little bit of Metal Gear elements 2834 02:07:37.840 --> 02:07:40.920 in it, like when you did like the fights against 2835 02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:44.560 Clifford or whatever his name is, Matt, but it does 2836 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:46.399 the thing that's the thing that I did you play 2837 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:50.039 through desk Stranding. Oh yeah, yeah, it does a thing 2838 02:07:50.079 --> 02:07:51.800 that I do not like with metal Gear, where it's 2839 02:07:51.880 --> 02:07:54.039 like this whole cut scene could have been an email. 2840 02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:02.479 Like the whole two hours of the game. I was 2841 02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:05.199 crying out of hysteria because I'm like, can I go 2842 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:08.800 to fucking bed now? And it was just like, sorry, bitch, 2843 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:11.399 forty five more minutes for this whole scene that we 2844 02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:14.039 explained seven hours earlier. But now you get to see 2845 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:15.880 it from a new perspective, and it's like. 2846 02:08:17.960 --> 02:08:21.359 I don't defend that with desk Stranding one, Like I 2847 02:08:21.680 --> 02:08:24.279 generally am just such a mark for Kajima that like, 2848 02:08:24.479 --> 02:08:26.159 in the middle of your stuff to give me a 2849 02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:28.359 two hour cut scene because it's like, I really care 2850 02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:31.640 about every piece of information. Deathk Stranding is so just 2851 02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:36.479 abstract data just out there where. It's like I don't 2852 02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:38.760 love those long ass cut scenes as much. I will 2853 02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:41.319 say Death Stranding two does a better job with that, 2854 02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:44.680 Like the last few hours of two have some long 2855 02:08:44.720 --> 02:08:47.640 ass cut scenes, but they are much better than the 2856 02:08:47.680 --> 02:08:48.199 ones in one. 2857 02:08:48.399 --> 02:08:50.319 Yes, I have a I don't know if you guys 2858 02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:52.479 feel the same way about this as I do. My 2859 02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:55.159 problem with games like desk Stranding and a lot of 2860 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:58.760 modern games when they use real actors as like mocap 2861 02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:01.880 with their faces and everything. I can't get into the 2862 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:06.000 story or like the characters as much emotionally because I 2863 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:10.840 associate them with the actors. Like Snake is his own character, 2864 02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:13.680 his own design, so it's like, Okay, this is Snake, 2865 02:09:13.960 --> 02:09:15.960 this is a character how I want to be, And 2866 02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:20.239 then I'm like, here's Norman Ritas, Like it feels like 2867 02:09:20.279 --> 02:09:23.640 I'm watching a movie rather than sucking myself into the game. 2868 02:09:23.920 --> 02:09:25.000 Getting sucked into the game. 2869 02:09:25.279 --> 02:09:27.560 Yeah, I kind of agree with that because like in 2870 02:09:27.640 --> 02:09:29.600 Medal Year, I always loved, like, you know, the Kajimas 2871 02:09:29.600 --> 02:09:32.119 always used that Yoji Shinkawa art and it's like always 2872 02:09:32.119 --> 02:09:35.319 he's like unique characters for Metal game. Yeah, that are 2873 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:37.159 not based on the day. Okay, this is the guy's 2874 02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:39.479 clearly kind of Kurt Russell issh or whatever, but like 2875 02:09:39.560 --> 02:09:42.319 a snake is his own guy versus the Shinkawa art 2876 02:09:42.479 --> 02:09:45.760 for dest Randing's like, well that's just Shinkawa drawing Norman Ritas, 2877 02:09:45.800 --> 02:09:49.079 which looks really cool. But I see Norman riatas, you know, 2878 02:09:49.119 --> 02:09:52.880 I see Troy Baker Laias to do like very cool, 2879 02:09:53.039 --> 02:09:56.119 but I do prefer them, like I love des Stranding. 2880 02:09:56.359 --> 02:09:57.840 I very much prefer medal yourself. 2881 02:09:58.319 --> 02:10:00.840 Yeah, I do have a quot. It is Destranding to 2882 02:10:01.560 --> 02:10:04.239 more Metal your solid five game player. Is it still 2883 02:10:04.479 --> 02:10:06.880 very heavy in the stranding? Uh? 2884 02:10:08.359 --> 02:10:11.000 The actual like connecting the roads and delivering stuff is 2885 02:10:11.039 --> 02:10:14.159 still like death stranding. The going up to the enemy 2886 02:10:14.199 --> 02:10:18.039 bases and combat stuff is way more phantom pain yea 2887 02:10:18.479 --> 02:10:20.319 all the way. But it's like for someone who sucks 2888 02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:22.640 itself like me, you can kind of just go in 2889 02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:25.159 with like because all the guns for the most of 2890 02:10:25.159 --> 02:10:27.279 the game are like trank guns. 2891 02:10:27.319 --> 02:10:29.079 You can I just ran everyone over. 2892 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:31.439 Yeah, you can do that. Like you don't have to 2893 02:10:31.479 --> 02:10:34.239 worry about void outs or anything unless it's very specific 2894 02:10:34.319 --> 02:10:37.199 circumstances later, but like it's way more fantom pain. So 2895 02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:38.800 I think that's part of why I love two a 2896 02:10:38.840 --> 02:10:39.760 lot more than I liked one. 2897 02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:41.319 Okay that maybe I'll play it. 2898 02:10:41.920 --> 02:10:43.039 It's very good Mary. 2899 02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:45.920 Maybe I'll convince Mary to let me play Peak with her. 2900 02:10:47.239 --> 02:10:50.039 I will do Peak, and then I'll have to be 2901 02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:52.479 convinced for everything else you guys just discussed. 2902 02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:55.039 I really think you would love Metal Your Salt. I 2903 02:10:55.079 --> 02:10:56.840 think it's a game everyone should play. 2904 02:10:57.399 --> 02:11:02.479 At least one of the most important series, No Mario, 2905 02:11:02.760 --> 02:11:03.880 but it's my favor. 2906 02:11:03.720 --> 02:11:04.640 Pretty high up there. 2907 02:11:05.199 --> 02:11:05.399 Yeah. 2908 02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:07.600 Yeah, if you're in Super Smash Brothers, you were in 2909 02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:09.079 some sort of important game. 2910 02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:12.079 I think the most important thing, though, is it was 2911 02:11:12.119 --> 02:11:15.760 the first thing that like made game cinematic, you know, scenes, 2912 02:11:15.800 --> 02:11:18.399 game had voice acting, voice acting things like that, but 2913 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:20.680 nothing was even remote first. 2914 02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:23.199 Caked up protagonists exactly for sure. 2915 02:11:23.239 --> 02:11:23.960 I respect that. 2916 02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:27.319 Yeah a lot, they really did. They really did the 2917 02:11:27.399 --> 02:11:29.960 cake good, you know, even the PS one cake. It 2918 02:11:30.079 --> 02:11:32.680 was like Loura cross titties on his butt. 2919 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:35.479 Tony and everything. 2920 02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:39.920 Yeah, yeah, little freaks. You guys want to read some emails, sure, 2921 02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:44.760 hell yeah, all right, welcome back. I know that we 2922 02:11:44.920 --> 02:11:45.720 talked about. 2923 02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:50.199 Snake Pliskin's butt. Is that what his name is? 2924 02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:52.039 For like a really long time, the. 2925 02:11:52.079 --> 02:11:56.119 Snake Bliskin's the Currussle. Uh, this is just a solid. 2926 02:11:55.800 --> 02:11:56.760 Which one it came first? 2927 02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:58.640 Is this a chicken in the egg situation? 2928 02:11:58.880 --> 02:11:58.920 No? 2929 02:11:59.079 --> 02:12:02.319 No, no, johnk definitely based off of ker Russell. 2930 02:12:02.479 --> 02:12:04.359 Yes, that's crazy. He just stole a character. 2931 02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:06.199 Oh yeah, crazy. 2932 02:12:06.199 --> 02:12:07.239 Oh yeah it's Kojima. 2933 02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:10.439 Yeah, Sean Connery was big Boss and like the first one. 2934 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:14.520 Yeah, oh that's crazy. Cool. Well, uh, that was a 2935 02:12:14.600 --> 02:12:17.239 long convo about butts, but I'm glad that we were 2936 02:12:17.359 --> 02:12:20.399 all back. Don't forget y'all. We're going to go through 2937 02:12:20.439 --> 02:12:22.720 some emails. We love when you send us emails because 2938 02:12:22.760 --> 02:12:24.640 we get to hear a little bit about you and 2939 02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:27.720 your lives, and uh, we can also answer some of 2940 02:12:27.800 --> 02:12:31.119 your burning questions. Dan, do you want to read the 2941 02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:33.359 first email from Nathan? 2942 02:12:34.239 --> 02:12:37.399 Yes, if I escape. If you taught a class about 2943 02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:40.479 video games and could only feature five games, which ones 2944 02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:42.239 would they be? Would you focus on the history of 2945 02:12:42.319 --> 02:12:45.239 games and choose the most important titles like Marius sixty four, 2946 02:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.239 Portal Tetris, or would you choose games that you love 2947 02:12:48.479 --> 02:12:51.479 that are more modern like Blueprints, Breadth the Wild, and Blatro. 2948 02:12:51.760 --> 02:12:53.079 Thanks y'all. That's from Nathan. 2949 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:57.319 It's a really good question, and it like probably requires 2950 02:12:57.399 --> 02:12:58.880 a little bit more research. 2951 02:12:59.000 --> 02:13:01.039 It also depends on like what it. 2952 02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:04.119 Depends on the goal, right, because if this goal is 2953 02:13:04.239 --> 02:13:06.920 like I could teach this class for years and never 2954 02:13:07.079 --> 02:13:08.479 get bored, it. 2955 02:13:08.520 --> 02:13:09.479 Would probably be. 2956 02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:13.680 Games. What games do you think we could talk about 2957 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:17.479 forever and not get tired. Wouldn't it be a metal 2958 02:13:17.600 --> 02:13:19.680 year for you because you can talk about it year 2959 02:13:19.720 --> 02:13:21.880 after year after year, Like what's your goal as a professor? 2960 02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:24.399 I think it's one that you can point to, like, Okay, 2961 02:13:25.079 --> 02:13:27.840 after this game, things were different, and I do think 2962 02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:29.600 middle year solid what I was saying before about like 2963 02:13:29.640 --> 02:13:32.560 the cinematic storytelling stuff or whatever. But like I think 2964 02:13:32.760 --> 02:13:35.680 Mario sixty four is one of those where it's like, Okay, 2965 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.000 this was one of the first big swings at three 2966 02:13:38.119 --> 02:13:40.920 D gaming, not just platforming. You know, it was like 2967 02:13:41.119 --> 02:13:43.920 nineteen ninety six. We had not really done this much 2968 02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:46.920 before that, a user controlled camera, things like that, the 2969 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:48.960 idea of a hub world, and like it did a 2970 02:13:49.039 --> 02:13:52.279 million different things that they didn't have a foreign games. 2971 02:13:52.920 --> 02:13:54.720 So yeah, mar six four I think, you know, they 2972 02:13:54.800 --> 02:13:56.520 mentioned Tenttris as well. I think we're going to talk 2973 02:13:56.560 --> 02:13:59.960 about just like pure distilled gaming, You're not going to 2974 02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:03.640 much better than Tetris. I do think if we're talking 2975 02:14:03.720 --> 02:14:06.600 more modern, I would go Breath the Wild, because I 2976 02:14:06.680 --> 02:14:10.239 do think that was twenty it was twenty seventeen. That 2977 02:14:10.399 --> 02:14:13.720 was we're fucking what eight years ago now, and I 2978 02:14:14.000 --> 02:14:18.159 still don't think anyone's come close to Breath the Wild's 2979 02:14:18.159 --> 02:14:20.800 open world design outside of like Tears of the Kingdom. 2980 02:14:21.159 --> 02:14:23.399 I think everyone's still trying to play catch up on that. 2981 02:14:25.079 --> 02:14:29.199 I think Outer Wilds is one where the idea of 2982 02:14:29.319 --> 02:14:33.039 just like information being the progress. And you know, I'm 2983 02:14:33.039 --> 02:14:35.079 sure there are there are, like there are adventure games 2984 02:14:35.079 --> 02:14:37.159 and stuff like old Lucas Arts or Sierra stuff back 2985 02:14:37.159 --> 02:14:38.760 in the day that kind of did a similar thing. 2986 02:14:39.079 --> 02:14:40.960 But for me, Outer Wilds was the one that really 2987 02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:42.479 clicked where it's like, oh my god, like you can 2988 02:14:42.520 --> 02:14:44.600 beat this game in twenty minutes if you want to, 2989 02:14:44.760 --> 02:14:48.439 but you have to have the knowledge so and then 2990 02:14:48.600 --> 02:14:52.479 it just distilled video gamenists. I would say warrior Ware. 2991 02:14:52.720 --> 02:14:55.880 I love Warriorwear so much, and that is just the 2992 02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:58.399 purest just like go go go, go play a thing, 2993 02:14:58.479 --> 02:15:01.239 play a thing, play a thing, play a thing that 2994 02:15:01.439 --> 02:15:02.399 would be up there for me too. 2995 02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:05.680 I think if I were to do this, we have 2996 02:15:05.720 --> 02:15:07.560 to do something I'd be like really educated on and 2997 02:15:07.640 --> 02:15:09.800 feel really strongly about. Like something I think I could 2998 02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:13.600 like talk a lot about and would do a class 2999 02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:17.640 about would be horror genre video games, and like how 3000 02:15:17.800 --> 02:15:20.039 impactful they are to us is like a society, Like 3001 02:15:20.159 --> 02:15:22.920 what makes a game so scary and so addictive to 3002 02:15:23.159 --> 02:15:26.399 watch someone be scared or to be scared yourself? Right, 3003 02:15:26.479 --> 02:15:29.479 Because like, as people, we've kind of evolved past the 3004 02:15:29.560 --> 02:15:32.920 fact that we don't really have We don't have things 3005 02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:34.920 to be afraid of in the traditional sense or in 3006 02:15:34.960 --> 02:15:37.680 the animalistic sense. Right, We're not being hunted. We're at 3007 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:39.600 the top of the food chain. So the things that 3008 02:15:39.880 --> 02:15:41.359 we want to do if we want to be scared, 3009 02:15:41.479 --> 02:15:43.800 is like to be hunted, right, Like a lot of 3010 02:15:44.600 --> 02:15:49.000 games capitalized on that, even old games. Amnesia is like 3011 02:15:49.039 --> 02:15:51.840 one of the scariest games to this day I have 3012 02:15:51.960 --> 02:15:54.359 ever played, and it does it so well because it 3013 02:15:54.720 --> 02:15:59.159 recognizes what it's like to be unable to defend yourself. 3014 02:15:59.239 --> 02:16:02.800 In that game, you can attack, so you just survive. 3015 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:07.119 Yeah, so it's it's so useless. All it can do 3016 02:16:07.239 --> 02:16:09.079 is like defend your mental health, Like it actually can't 3017 02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:13.079 do anything for like protecting you. Really it's just buying 3018 02:16:13.159 --> 02:16:16.520 you time. So that I think obviously Silent Hill just 3019 02:16:16.600 --> 02:16:19.079 as a collective of like psychosis and like what's happening 3020 02:16:19.119 --> 02:16:20.920 inside of our brains, it does a lot with like 3021 02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:26.560 also like just why also like trying not to like 3022 02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:28.760 spoil a really old game here, but like also like 3023 02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:31.199 what is a protagonist? Like can they also be bad? 3024 02:16:31.399 --> 02:16:33.639 Can we can you play a bad person? I think 3025 02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:36.440 that's really interesting, like how it plays on that. So 3026 02:16:37.040 --> 02:16:39.559 Resident Evil obviously, which is also about being hunted in 3027 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:43.319 many senses, especially Resident Evil three because you're you're being 3028 02:16:43.440 --> 02:16:47.239 chased most of the game. So a brilliant series, and 3029 02:16:47.360 --> 02:16:49.360 I think I think you would even add modern games 3030 02:16:49.399 --> 02:16:54.000 in there as well. Pasmophobia. Dead by Daylight is a 3031 02:16:54.079 --> 02:16:57.559 brilliant cinematic experience that I think I could talk about 3032 02:16:57.559 --> 02:17:02.639 a lot. PT Jesus like such a good storytelling experience. 3033 02:17:02.719 --> 02:17:06.280 It's terrifying and really well done. Yeah, I think I 3034 02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:08.559 feel like I could talk about that forever and have 3035 02:17:08.680 --> 02:17:10.440 so much to say and so much to like learn, 3036 02:17:10.639 --> 02:17:13.120 so yeah, that'd be great horror games in general. 3037 02:17:14.040 --> 02:17:16.120 Is I think where I would go? Uh yeah, what 3038 02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:16.959 about you, Lisa? 3039 02:17:18.920 --> 02:17:21.639 Definitely anything Zelda, because I can just talk about Zelda 3040 02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:24.399 forever because that's all the Zelda games. I talk about 3041 02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:25.559 the lore of it and how it got me in 3042 02:17:25.600 --> 02:17:28.559 the laura of video games. I mean, that's why I 3043 02:17:28.600 --> 02:17:31.200 have a whole freaking Twilight Princess sleeve, which people hate on. 3044 02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:32.600 I don't agree with it at all. 3045 02:17:32.639 --> 02:17:36.200 The game the best three d dungeons in the whole series. 3046 02:17:37.120 --> 02:17:41.760 Thank you, Okay, I wish more people agreed. I'd also probably, honestly, 3047 02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:44.639 it would be more like, like I love Metro Vanus, 3048 02:17:44.680 --> 02:17:46.360 so I talk about the Metro Vanias that I really 3049 02:17:46.440 --> 02:17:49.319 love because I grew up obviously on Metroid, and then 3050 02:17:49.360 --> 02:17:52.280 I moved on to Castlevania, and then it was Hollow 3051 02:17:52.399 --> 02:17:56.120 Night and then all those dungeon crawlers as well obviously 3052 02:17:56.239 --> 02:17:59.559 Soul's games. I also, I don't know. I think that's 3053 02:17:59.600 --> 02:18:03.200 a really interesting question because it's like you can It's like, 3054 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:05.399 do you want me to talk about games specifically or 3055 02:18:05.559 --> 02:18:07.799 history of games or talk about genre of games? Because 3056 02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:09.239 I'm like, if we're just talking about video games. I'm 3057 02:18:09.239 --> 02:18:11.159 gonna talk about my favorite ones because it's the ones 3058 02:18:11.159 --> 02:18:12.000 I can talk about the most. 3059 02:18:12.079 --> 02:18:13.959 You'd want to, because you'd want to spend your life 3060 02:18:14.040 --> 02:18:15.000 talking about games that. 3061 02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:19.719 Do you think Zelda is? I like, you thought Mario 3062 02:18:19.920 --> 02:18:23.079 was the most important I guess video game franchise. I 3063 02:18:23.200 --> 02:18:27.200 agree that Mario is probably the most recognizable character, and 3064 02:18:27.280 --> 02:18:29.680 I think for platformers, yes, but I'm like, I'm like, 3065 02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:31.920 I think Zelda is like when you look at like 3066 02:18:32.719 --> 02:18:35.120 greatest video game of all time, or like games that 3067 02:18:35.200 --> 02:18:38.120 have like shaped how games are made now, it's always 3068 02:18:38.200 --> 02:18:39.159 like acrea. 3069 02:18:38.920 --> 02:18:42.120 Time, you know what I mean, the first Zelda on 3070 02:18:42.239 --> 02:18:42.719 an e s. 3071 02:18:42.799 --> 02:18:46.639 Oh yeah, oh yeah, or Link to the Past, which 3072 02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:49.600 like set like the whole formula for future Zelda games, 3073 02:18:49.760 --> 02:18:52.399 and it has all the aspects of like dungeon crawling 3074 02:18:52.559 --> 02:18:55.440 RPG and all sorts of things, and so it's like, oh, 3075 02:18:55.479 --> 02:18:57.559 I would just talk about Zelda. But then also I 3076 02:18:57.680 --> 02:19:00.239 obviously got really into the Soul's games in the last 3077 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:02.079 few years, and so it's like, well that is more 3078 02:19:02.159 --> 02:19:04.879 recently biased, and that's obviously what I'm gonna focus on 3079 02:19:05.000 --> 02:19:07.079 because like that taught me how to be like really 3080 02:19:07.200 --> 02:19:10.479 good and strategize the video games, because Zelda's always been like, oh, 3081 02:19:10.559 --> 02:19:12.920 you get this weapon in a dungeon, you just use 3082 02:19:12.959 --> 02:19:16.719 that weapon for the boss, yeah, versus teaching you. Yeah, 3083 02:19:16.760 --> 02:19:19.319 it like teaches you. And then it's like I remember 3084 02:19:19.319 --> 02:19:21.319 in high school, like the guys I used to hang 3085 02:19:21.360 --> 02:19:22.799 out with used to call me like a fake gamer 3086 02:19:22.840 --> 02:19:24.920 because I never got on Xbox and never played Halo, 3087 02:19:25.440 --> 02:19:26.959 and so I was always like ashamed of like my 3088 02:19:27.079 --> 02:19:30.559 games knowledge. Yeah, right, and then now they're all pieces 3089 02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:33.760 of shits and now they're all dead to me, okay, and. 3090 02:19:33.840 --> 02:19:37.440 Yeah, and that being good. Now you fucking commire your 3091 02:19:37.559 --> 02:19:39.479 ass and I'm playing Elden Ring. 3092 02:19:40.079 --> 02:19:43.120 Yeah, and then I played like seki Row and like 3093 02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:46.159 Dark Souls, all of those. All the knowledge I got 3094 02:19:46.239 --> 02:19:48.719 from gaming came from Zelda. So it's like if it 3095 02:19:48.799 --> 02:19:51.479 wasn't for my playing Zelda from a childhood growing up, 3096 02:19:51.680 --> 02:19:54.639 I would not have as much of like the knowledge 3097 02:19:54.680 --> 02:19:57.120 I'd have to be like, oh there's something hidden behind 3098 02:19:57.159 --> 02:19:59.799 this wall, or oh this boss is gonna have three phases, 3099 02:20:00.079 --> 02:20:02.000 or you got to hit this thing. Like. It taught 3100 02:20:02.079 --> 02:20:04.840 me so much about video games, so it's like I 3101 02:20:04.879 --> 02:20:07.159 would teach a class on like these are the video 3102 02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:09.760 games I think that you need to get into or 3103 02:20:09.799 --> 02:20:12.200 that you need to have knowledge on to really understand 3104 02:20:12.239 --> 02:20:15.520 how video games work. And even arcade games. I grew 3105 02:20:15.600 --> 02:20:17.479 up on a lot of arcade games, and arcade games 3106 02:20:17.479 --> 02:20:20.000 are very simple. Like did you ever watch the Tetris movie? 3107 02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:24.840 Oh my god, it's so good. Really yeah, I know, 3108 02:20:25.079 --> 02:20:27.440 which is everyone's reaction. It's really good because it tells 3109 02:20:27.479 --> 02:20:29.719 you how good of a tech of the game Tetris 3110 02:20:29.799 --> 02:20:32.879 is and how hard it was to get the licensing 3111 02:20:32.959 --> 02:20:35.920 for tech Tetris in the US. It was like a 3112 02:20:36.000 --> 02:20:39.719 whole government thing with the Soviet Union. It was like 3113 02:20:39.760 --> 02:20:42.920 a heist. And so just talking about video game history, 3114 02:20:43.120 --> 02:20:45.040 like I gotten too Earthbound because of the history of 3115 02:20:45.120 --> 02:20:48.280 earth Bound. I got into player Obscure because of reading 3116 02:20:48.360 --> 02:20:50.600 about the studio and how they found the composer and 3117 02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:53.680 how they became like this dream team. So I don't know, 3118 02:20:54.040 --> 02:20:55.760 I think I just would not shut the fuck up. 3119 02:20:56.760 --> 02:20:59.959 You could do a whole thing about Zelda, for sure, Like, yeah, Zelda, 3120 02:21:00.159 --> 02:21:01.840 for sure. The thing is like there's so many tent 3121 02:21:01.920 --> 02:21:03.840 poles there where it's like the first Zelda and what 3122 02:21:04.000 --> 02:21:05.799 that did and then linked to the past, how that 3123 02:21:05.920 --> 02:21:08.040 established the format and Ocherna time, how it brought it 3124 02:21:08.079 --> 02:21:11.079 to three Awakening too, Yeah, and Majora, how I went 3125 02:21:11.280 --> 02:21:14.040 fucking way out of left field there uh and then 3126 02:21:14.200 --> 02:21:17.600 breatha Wild. How it completely reinvented the way retort. 3127 02:21:17.319 --> 02:21:21.040 How it started the timeline. Everyone associates me with Soul's 3128 02:21:21.079 --> 02:21:23.239 games and Yaka is up, but I'm like, Zelda's like 3129 02:21:23.479 --> 02:21:25.680 my I just have played all them, so I obviously 3130 02:21:25.719 --> 02:21:28.479 I'm not streaming them. You know, I've pre streamed a 3131 02:21:28.520 --> 02:21:31.280 few games, but like, obviously it's like that's just who 3132 02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:32.280 I am as a gamer. 3133 02:21:32.520 --> 02:21:33.840 They were It's foundational too. 3134 02:21:34.399 --> 02:21:36.479 Yeah, Like Blink Way Too was the band that got 3135 02:21:36.559 --> 02:21:39.440 me into rock music and metal and punk and emo, 3136 02:21:39.600 --> 02:21:42.760 but they're not any of those genres. They're just the 3137 02:21:42.959 --> 02:21:45.440 first one that was Like this introduced me to a 3138 02:21:45.520 --> 02:21:50.040 whole line of whole new part of myself that I 3139 02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:50.799 didn't know I had. 3140 02:21:51.040 --> 02:21:53.520 Are you saying that Zelda is the blank one eighty 3141 02:21:53.559 --> 02:21:54.159 two of games? 3142 02:21:54.200 --> 02:21:57.120 It is Zelda is the blank Way Too. I love 3143 02:21:57.200 --> 02:22:01.879 that The only thing Link can say is diarrhea when 3144 02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:03.799 you kill Gann and he goes, I'm a fuck your mom, 3145 02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:06.319 And that's all Link says for the whole series. 3146 02:22:08.079 --> 02:22:16.440 Such a grandpa. Anyway, Tom, let's play this song all 3147 02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:18.280 the small Things. 3148 02:22:18.719 --> 02:22:22.559 It's been so funny, how predictable and adolescent they still are. 3149 02:22:22.639 --> 02:22:26.520 But they're all in their fifties. They're just stupid children forever, 3150 02:22:27.360 --> 02:22:28.319 children their twenties. 3151 02:22:29.719 --> 02:22:33.159 If they were at a park and there was one child, 3152 02:22:33.479 --> 02:22:37.479 the child would bring their Spider Man toys to bank exactly. 3153 02:22:38.040 --> 02:22:46.719 Call back. Yeah, Squeaky Kurds Squeaky the name of the episode. 3154 02:22:48.920 --> 02:22:52.680 Thank you, Nathan. I think that answers your question. I 3155 02:22:52.799 --> 02:22:55.280 will read this next one, although I don't see a 3156 02:22:55.479 --> 02:22:58.399 name in it. Can you double check Dan? 3157 02:22:58.959 --> 02:22:59.399 The name? 3158 02:23:00.159 --> 02:23:03.639 Yes? One? Unless it never had one, it probably did. 3159 02:23:03.799 --> 02:23:07.120 Let me just search. I'm gonna read it really Sultan 3160 02:23:07.280 --> 02:23:08.319 Sultan Abbassi. 3161 02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:12.799 Okay, I'm gonna read it fast now, Hi, peoples, How 3162 02:23:13.079 --> 02:23:17.000 does Dan feel about child Pauline and DK Bonanza after 3163 02:23:17.079 --> 02:23:21.000 proclaiming has distained for children characters in video games? 3164 02:23:21.120 --> 02:23:22.479 Love y'all take care. 3165 02:23:23.399 --> 02:23:26.680 I mean, I have a general disdain for children and 3166 02:23:27.159 --> 02:23:30.360 I but I think with games it is mostly I 3167 02:23:30.520 --> 02:23:32.760 don't want to have to play as one, you know, 3168 02:23:32.959 --> 02:23:35.399 like that's the thing with like JRPG's and stuff like that. 3169 02:23:35.520 --> 02:23:37.920 I don't want to be some teenager or something like that. 3170 02:23:38.719 --> 02:23:41.479 I think in DK Bananza has not bothered me. It is. 3171 02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:44.479 I am playing as Donkey Kong. As far as I'm concerned. 3172 02:23:44.520 --> 02:23:48.079 Pauline is basically a navvy or a fee or something 3173 02:23:48.159 --> 02:23:50.360 like that, like one of these like Zelda companions that 3174 02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:54.319 will occasionally have an ability or say something or whatever like. 3175 02:23:54.399 --> 02:23:58.319 But I'm I'm Donkey Kong. I'm playing is Donkey Kong. Yeah, 3176 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:00.719 I hope Pauline does well, but I don't really care. 3177 02:24:01.760 --> 02:24:03.559 So ye have no no problem, no problem with it. 3178 02:24:04.399 --> 02:24:06.120 I feel like you're afraid to be put on a 3179 02:24:06.239 --> 02:24:08.799 list because you're a sweet boy and you would never 3180 02:24:09.079 --> 02:24:10.799 do that, and so you're just always like, listen, if 3181 02:24:10.799 --> 02:24:12.840 there's a child involved, I don't want to talk to them, 3182 02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:14.680 I don't want to be around them. I don't even 3183 02:24:14.760 --> 02:24:16.360 want to like be associated with them. 3184 02:24:17.040 --> 02:24:18.360 Those kids can't. 3185 02:24:18.079 --> 02:24:19.440 Even show me your Spider Man collection. 3186 02:24:19.600 --> 02:24:22.360 No, I don't give it, Timmy. I'm an adult. I 3187 02:24:22.440 --> 02:24:24.799 want to play as adults. I find kids annoying. I 3188 02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:27.040 don't want them around my games. I don't want them 3189 02:24:27.120 --> 02:24:29.200 in my games. But if it's just she's sitting on 3190 02:24:29.280 --> 02:24:32.280 Donkey Kong's shoulder and occasionally she'll sing to break a 3191 02:24:32.360 --> 02:24:32.920 purple door. 3192 02:24:32.920 --> 02:24:37.159 If that's fine, I'm here to traumatize the kids. Yeah, 3193 02:24:37.840 --> 02:24:38.959 put the kids in their place. 3194 02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:42.319 Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you gotta grow up sometime. 3195 02:24:43.079 --> 02:24:43.280 Yeah. 3196 02:24:44.399 --> 02:24:47.200 I love children. I don't think I want to raise any. 3197 02:24:47.479 --> 02:24:49.399 But I just absolutely love being an aunt and like 3198 02:24:49.840 --> 02:24:52.040 showing them all the games that I loved and like 3199 02:24:52.200 --> 02:24:54.639 watching them like go through them and teaching them all 3200 02:24:54.719 --> 02:24:56.479 my best tips and tricks about games. 3201 02:24:56.479 --> 02:24:58.000 So we have different vibes going on. 3202 02:24:58.719 --> 02:25:00.600 I like being an uncle, but all like my niece 3203 02:25:00.680 --> 02:25:03.239 and my nephews are all like very young and so 3204 02:25:03.399 --> 02:25:05.959 like I'm looking forward to them being old enough for 3205 02:25:06.000 --> 02:25:06.959 me to traumatize them. 3206 02:25:07.120 --> 02:25:09.479 I will say I have a I never post them 3207 02:25:09.520 --> 02:25:11.479 because they're my nieces, but I have videos on my 3208 02:25:11.520 --> 02:25:13.920 phone on my niece playing elden Ring, and she plays 3209 02:25:13.959 --> 02:25:16.600 it like a cozy game. She's seven years old. She'll 3210 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:19.600 ride around the horses and grab like flowers, and in 3211 02:25:19.680 --> 02:25:21.399 the minute there's an enemy, she'll just throw it at 3212 02:25:21.440 --> 02:25:25.360 my my sister, her brother in law. She loves it. 3213 02:25:25.520 --> 02:25:27.000 She's obsessed with elden Ring. 3214 02:25:27.440 --> 02:25:30.079 What if a dragon comes down? And like she's just done. 3215 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:32.879 And then she's like, get it, dad, get it, get hurry. 3216 02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:36.159 I want to play like and she'll he'll like, sitting 3217 02:25:36.159 --> 02:25:37.600 there in the plane, she'll be like, you gotta get 3218 02:25:37.600 --> 02:25:39.479 a key for this room, dad. Yeah, I get heat. 3219 02:25:39.600 --> 02:25:41.239 And it's very precious. 3220 02:25:41.399 --> 02:25:42.120 That's adorable. 3221 02:25:42.840 --> 02:25:44.319 It's a really hellish world. 3222 02:25:45.719 --> 02:25:48.559 Yeah, but she picks flowers and she's just on her 3223 02:25:48.639 --> 02:25:49.479 little horse. 3224 02:25:49.680 --> 02:25:52.520 Give her animal crossing. 3225 02:25:53.280 --> 02:25:54.280 It's getting off she. 3226 02:25:54.479 --> 02:25:56.559 But then my sister's like, you know what, fuck you, Lisa. 3227 02:25:56.680 --> 02:25:58.520 Now my kids play elden Ring. They won't play their 3228 02:25:58.600 --> 02:26:01.319 switches anymore. They shall play. You've given her the wrong 3229 02:26:01.520 --> 02:26:06.120 universe to be endearing and sweet and it's very precious. 3230 02:26:08.000 --> 02:26:10.399 You sounds that's a good kids story at least at 3231 02:26:10.479 --> 02:26:14.600 least they're open to it. Well, thank you for the emails. 3232 02:26:14.639 --> 02:26:16.360 I know that was a bit shorter, but we went 3233 02:26:16.559 --> 02:26:20.079 so hard on gaming content that we wrapped up all 3234 02:26:20.159 --> 02:26:24.200 of our time in games. Sorry, you know, sorry that 3235 02:26:24.280 --> 02:26:27.559 we talked about games for so long. As always, we 3236 02:26:27.719 --> 02:26:30.639 absolutely love for you guys to help and support us. 3237 02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:34.079 You do not have to this. This podcast is free 3238 02:26:34.159 --> 02:26:34.559 ninety nine. 3239 02:26:34.600 --> 02:26:36.879 You can listen to it at your leisure. But if 3240 02:26:36.920 --> 02:26:38.040 you like what you hear. 3241 02:26:38.440 --> 02:26:41.200 You can always go to our Patreon and you can 3242 02:26:41.239 --> 02:26:43.239 tip us, which is awesome and it helps us pay 3243 02:26:43.319 --> 02:26:45.920 for games and other things that help us make sure 3244 02:26:45.959 --> 02:26:49.520 we do this podcast. You can also get the video 3245 02:26:49.719 --> 02:26:52.680 and ad free tiers, which I love. That way you 3246 02:26:52.719 --> 02:26:57.280 can enjoy us without any ads interrupting us annoyingly, and 3247 02:26:57.479 --> 02:26:59.879 you can just watch Lisa's cats. There were two of 3248 02:27:00.200 --> 02:27:01.440 I bet you don't even know what they look like. 3249 02:27:01.479 --> 02:27:02.200 They were really cute. 3250 02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:04.200 She held them. They were really cute. A couple of times. 3251 02:27:04.280 --> 02:27:06.360 You hold them up, and that's a really chill cat. 3252 02:27:06.840 --> 02:27:07.959 Yeah, faranoy. 3253 02:27:09.559 --> 02:27:12.239 Sounds like they're little babies, and you get to see 3254 02:27:12.280 --> 02:27:14.719 them in the video version. So I hope that you 3255 02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:18.319 consider it. If not, I hope you enjoyed listening, and 3256 02:27:18.440 --> 02:27:21.360 with that, I would really love to plug Lisa. I 3257 02:27:21.479 --> 02:27:24.600 know you are an incredible comedian. You're very funny. I 3258 02:27:24.799 --> 02:27:27.440 just have loved seeing you at so many different conventions 3259 02:27:27.520 --> 02:27:31.079 and cons. You're busy, You're a hustler. Please tell people 3260 02:27:31.079 --> 02:27:33.600 where they can listen and find more of you on 3261 02:27:33.719 --> 02:27:34.159 the internet. 3262 02:27:35.680 --> 02:27:38.639 Yes, I set my tour and travel for shows, so 3263 02:27:38.840 --> 02:27:43.040 checking out my instagram, my link tree, TikTok, Twitter, whatever, 3264 02:27:43.680 --> 02:27:45.799 you'll find my shows. But also I stream on Twitch 3265 02:27:46.200 --> 02:27:49.760 and I have a podcast called dork Souls. It's pretty new. 3266 02:27:49.799 --> 02:27:52.120 We're about ten episodes in. It's bi weekly with my 3267 02:27:52.159 --> 02:27:54.520 friend Hector Navarro. He is a big comic book nerd. 3268 02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:56.719 I'm a big gaming anime nerd. So we just talked 3269 02:27:56.719 --> 02:27:59.840 about nerd stuff and would we'll probably have Dan and 3270 02:28:00.319 --> 02:28:02.639 on there at some point. So you can check that 3271 02:28:02.760 --> 02:28:05.040 out on everything on YouTube and all the things. I'm 3272 02:28:05.120 --> 02:28:10.120 on everything. I'm too online. I love that for you. 3273 02:28:10.440 --> 02:28:13.959 I think you for us in this space, and I 3274 02:28:14.040 --> 02:28:16.120 don't really care. You know, we're not here to judge 3275 02:28:16.159 --> 02:28:17.879 how healthy anyone's lifestyle is. 3276 02:28:18.159 --> 02:28:20.079 Look at Dan, I want to fuck. I just made 3277 02:28:20.120 --> 02:28:25.319 a fucking Donkey Kong in my dreams. So it's okay, Dan, what's. 3278 02:28:25.200 --> 02:28:25.879 In your dreams? 3279 02:28:26.559 --> 02:28:26.680 Uh? 3280 02:28:26.959 --> 02:28:27.120 Oh? 3281 02:28:28.440 --> 02:28:29.559 A lot of plane crashes? 3282 02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:35.239 What anime? 3283 02:28:35.360 --> 02:28:35.959 Horse girls? 3284 02:28:36.000 --> 02:28:37.959 I'm gonna answer it. Yeah, I don't know. I'm always 3285 02:28:38.000 --> 02:28:39.399 on a plane and there's always a crash. 3286 02:28:39.840 --> 02:28:44.000 I don't know, Dan, what are you doing outside of 3287 02:28:44.079 --> 02:28:47.159 this podcast? That's so stressful? 3288 02:28:47.440 --> 02:28:51.280 It's the honest answer. I do a giant bomb dot 3289 02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:54.639 com check it out. We are one Independent Now. I 3290 02:28:54.680 --> 02:28:57.319 think we're doing some great stuff. I've been playing Pin 3291 02:28:57.440 --> 02:28:59.399 My Ride for the PS two over there, I'm about 3292 02:28:59.399 --> 02:29:02.239 to finish up, and Jeff Grubb is about to start 3293 02:29:02.280 --> 02:29:04.559 playing a game for Blake Club that I think everyone's 3294 02:29:04.559 --> 02:29:07.520 gonna enjoy quite a bit. So check out giant bomb. 3295 02:29:07.399 --> 02:29:13.000 Dot com amazing. I also stream on Twitch. Usually every Monday, 3296 02:29:13.040 --> 02:29:16.360 I stream an indie game or whatever I've got down 3297 02:29:16.440 --> 02:29:20.920 the pipe, all good stuff. Yeah, I think I'm gonna 3298 02:29:21.040 --> 02:29:21.840 I think I'm gonna do it. 3299 02:29:21.959 --> 02:29:24.040 I will do it for you, Dan, I do it 3300 02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:25.440 for you, do it for you Mary. 3301 02:29:26.079 --> 02:29:28.360 I'm gonna do it for the Dan that believes in me, 3302 02:29:28.639 --> 02:29:30.600 which is an anime reference that you won't get. 3303 02:29:31.639 --> 02:29:31.719 La. 3304 02:29:32.159 --> 02:29:36.040 Thanks He's sweet, sweet angel, and that's how you pass 3305 02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:36.959 the best styll test. 3306 02:29:37.440 --> 02:29:37.639 Well. 3307 02:29:37.719 --> 02:29:41.639 Thank you guys for listening and enjoying this experience with us. 3308 02:29:42.280 --> 02:29:45.280 Maybe Oh we're so happy to have you, Lisa. Thank 3309 02:29:45.319 --> 02:29:47.959 you for sharing your nerd culture with us. Everybody, go 3310 02:29:48.120 --> 02:29:50.200 check out dork Souls and we'll see you on the 3311 02:29:50.280 --> 02:29:55.040 next episode of the fire Escape Cast. As it said 3312 02:29:55.079 --> 02:29:57.479 in its entirety, I'm marry the best host in the 3313 02:29:57.600 --> 02:29:58.120 entire world. 3314 02:29:58.799 --> 02:30:01.840 See you on the next one night by que