WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 Adventist Radio London inspiration. 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:04.240 For the song. 3 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:15.080 We Welcome the Talking Point with Ray. 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.600 Sen you, Pedro Angeler discussing the hot topics and answering 5 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:20.359 your questions. 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:23.239 Saturday's five to seven pm. 7 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:24.679 On Adventist Radio London. 8 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:25.920 It's talking Point. 9 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.079 It's talking Point. It's talking Point, it's talking Point. 10 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:32.320 Your conversations you. 11 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:32.840 Need to have. 12 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:42.479 Good evening, Good evening, and welcome to talking Point. As 13 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.759 our jingle says, these are real conversations you need to have. 14 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.240 And i'd like to say and wish everybody a happy 15 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:55.880 new year. Twenty twenty five is finally here and wow, 16 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.039 how time has flown. I can't believe we've actually got here. 17 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.920 Twenty twenty five is in the house. So I want 18 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.719 to thank you for sticking with us. We were just 19 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.239 sating I had a few little technical difficulties just then, 20 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.439 but hopefully you're going to stick around with us for 21 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.200 the rest of our show. This is Talking Point from 22 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.480 five till seven on Adventist Radio London, and as our 23 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.079 first one for the year, didn't really take a break. Actually, 24 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.599 we're going to do a bit of a recap of 25 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.680 some of the shows that we did last year, just 26 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:30.599 to give you kind of an idea and set the 27 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:35.519 scene for what's going to be coming. It's interesting. We 28 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:37.599 just played a track by Donald Lawrence, The best is 29 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:41.120 yet to come. We did some great shows last year 30 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:43.480 and hopefully we're going to have some really good ones 31 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:48.799 as well. 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So, as I said, this 50 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.800 is our first show of twenty twenty five and we're 51 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.919 going to be taking a little look back, just you know, 52 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.360 give you a bit of a taste of some of 53 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.360 the If you've missed any of our shows, I'll give 54 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.080 you a bit of an idea of some of the 55 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:07.919 topics that we covered and some of the people that 56 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.599 we met. If you did want to listen to any 57 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:13.319 of our shows. Many of our shows are podcasted, so 58 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.479 you can look at those on spreaker dot com. Definitely 59 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.439 have a listen. We have some really good guests on 60 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.439 and we've covered some really important topics as well. And 61 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.479 also we'd like to know what you would like to 62 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.560 hear as well. We'd love to hear your stories and 63 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.439 topics that you'd like to discuss and that we can 64 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.479 talk about. But if you'd like to join that conversation, 65 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:39.960 do you get in contact. So today I'm joined by 66 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:45.199 one of my co hosts today, Zenya hopefully in she's 67 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.800 in she's on the zoom today. I'm in the studio 68 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.919 by myself today, so I'm going to have a quick 69 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.680 chat with her shortly, but I'm going to play a 70 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.000 clip of music to get us started, and again, this 71 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:58.960 is a really good opportunity for us to play some 72 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.719 really good music as well. So I'm going to pop 73 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:07.159 in Hezekiah Walker every praise. Yeah, it's a great one 74 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.919 there as well. So we'll be back after that. 75 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:14.080 We can't worship. 76 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:23.560 Where's all of my primers? I want everybody around the 77 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:24.399 world and put. 78 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.160 Your hand together, because I'm a praise for long time. 79 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:28.199 Go here, we go. 80 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:32.279 To our go. 81 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:41.839 Everywhere from worship with one call, every prieze, every phrase, 82 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:55.120 do our God, sing to our guards, coy hallehlua's do 83 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:05.439 our guard, every prise, every praise to my God. Y'all 84 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.240 got God help us singing heavy praise. 85 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:09.800 It's toe. I gone. 86 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:12.079 Every word the worst. 87 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.279 We want to call. 88 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:25.920 Every braid, every braids, it's whe God. Call everybody says 89 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:32.839 to my God. Dory Holley Union, it's a God. 90 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.439 I'm gonna say every praise, say every phrase. 91 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:39.720 It's to a God. 92 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:43.160 Y'all gonna help me do it. 93 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:44.600 You can take it out your praise. 94 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:46.680 It's to God. 95 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:53.920 Every ruder worship want to call, I'm gonna say every praise, 96 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:56.160 every break. 97 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:58.279 It's Hi God. 98 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.120 I want everybody on over the world to. 99 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:09.120 Say, my flu to my gods. Do me holley, it's 100 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:16.079 to my gone. If it praise, if it praise, it's 101 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:17.000 to our Gone. 102 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:20.519 It's taken a more time. 103 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.680 We can you wait? Anybody? 104 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.439 Let me wear of worship with warm cord. 105 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:37.600 Every praise, every praise, it's to our God. I don't 106 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:39.759 care how I can feel it right now saying how 107 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.920 lah h, my God, how that happen? 108 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.839 Have you pray? We praise? 109 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:53.319 It's time. 110 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:57.399 This is not dumb. 111 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.439 Uh say. 112 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:30.480 Yes he is? Yes, he come inside? Can't he? Yes? 113 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:31.040 He is? 114 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:40.079 Yes, he is my check him. Maybe I didn't know 115 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:41.279 he's here a sign. 116 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.079 I didn't know he's a sign. 117 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:58.720 Yes he is, Yes, yess yes as my. 118 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:28.800 I mean. 119 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:56.600 Shout yes. Every praise is to our God. Hezekiah Walker. 120 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.240 So welcome to Talking Point, our first show of the 121 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.639 twenty twenty five And yeah, it's quite exciting to be 122 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.159 back for this new year. You know, when something kind 123 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.039 of feels like twenty twenty five is coming, and all 124 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.360 of a sudden it's really actually here, which is quite amazing. 125 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.120 I have try and get myself my head around writing 126 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:21.360 twenty twenty five you know, twenty twenty four is no more, 127 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:27.000 so welcome to Talking Point. I'm joined as always with 128 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.720 my trusty co host. One of my co hosts. The 129 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.080 other one has deserted us today, no shade Pedro, But anyway, 130 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.120 I'm here with Zenya. 131 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.120 Who is answer for it? 132 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:46.360 Who is on zoom with us today? Xenia? How are you? 133 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.399 I am here? Let's put it that way. I'm just 134 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:56.960 kind of recovering from about a flu or cold or 135 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.440 a mashup of the two. Was sure. I still have 136 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.639 this residual cough that doesn't want to go away, but 137 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.519 pass worth and certainly thankful for being here, Thankful for 138 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:14.879 walking into twenty twenty five. Thank God grace alone. So 139 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.039 happy new Year to all our listeners. I hope you 140 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:23.519 hearing me clearly, I think this the lust. I hope 141 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:28.320 you've had a good start to your twenty twenty five 142 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.840 and four days in and counting. But we give God 143 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.559 all the praise and all the glory, for he is good, 144 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:39.679 amend and. 145 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.919 I hear you, and I can definitely empathize with the 146 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.639 cold flu cough thing that seems to be going around go. 147 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.000 I think every person that I can come across seems 148 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.240 to be seems to be suffering or getting over. I know, 149 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.960 I've had it twice right now, and usually I do 150 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:57.960 quite well with I've done quite well. I had done 151 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.360 quite well all year, and then I got hit with it. 152 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.799 There's a moment you're kind of really busy, your run down, 153 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:06.840 those germs and stuff flying around, you know they have but. 154 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:12.200 The same I'm thankful, like I really didn't have much 155 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:16.879 of illness or anything like that during the year, not 156 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:20.480 that I can remember now. Goodness gracious to me, twenty 157 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:27.559 twenty four really flew no pun intended, but yeah, it's 158 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.399 really hit me. It's hit me good. But the timing 159 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.360 is okay ish, things have slown down a little bit 160 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.600 the break before you know, reality resumes, so hopefully I'll 161 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:42.200 be back to full throttle by then. 162 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:45.159 Good well, yeah, I hope you do make a full recovery. 163 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.200 I mean, the challenge that I've had is that I 164 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:50.120 haven't fully recovered, so it seems to be lingering and 165 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.120 then it kind of flairs up again, which is not great. 166 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.440 And unfortunately our hold household had it as well. 167 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:59.399 So it's kind of recommendation is for people to just 168 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.679 wrap back up. And I know there's there's whispers around 169 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:07.799 that there is something COVID like circulating. Whether this is 170 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.559 it or not, I'm not sure, but we need to 171 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:15.360 get back onto our defenses or handwashing, our vitamin seed 172 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.720 taking or ginger or honey, whatever it is that you 173 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.360 normally can't copt news. Yeah, we need to get back 174 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:24.399 to be vigilant. 175 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.799 Yep, I've definitely we never really stopped, but I'm going natural. 176 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:34.840 I'm taking medicines. Indeed, it's like, yep, I've got the 177 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:36.039 whole shop bag, as it were. 178 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought, you know, we're able. 179 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.759 To walk into twenty twenty five with relatively good health 180 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:45.360 as it were. 181 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.799 Man, I want to also share. I know you gave 182 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.840 the usual details for people to get in touch, but 183 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.840 I thought that if we had a way for our 184 00:12:55.879 --> 00:13:00.639 listeners to communicate with us anonymously, that that might spur 185 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.159 them on. And we keep asking week after week, and 186 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.320 our listeners are quite they're there. You keep telling me 187 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.600 that you bump into our listeners regularly and they say 188 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.960 how much they enjoy the show, or they've listened, or 189 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:18.000 they recognize your voice, but they don't usually get in touch. 190 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.879 And I really can't stress it enough, how much more 191 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.759 and honestly entertaining, because that's not the real ethos of 192 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.279 the show, But how much more we can get out 193 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.120 of the program if it were interacting, if persons were 194 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:41.480 willing to share their input, their commentary. So I'm using 195 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:46.840 slide do as an option to allow you to do that. 196 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.360 So all you've got to do is find slider dot 197 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.039 com online. Hopefully you've got resources to be able to 198 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:57.240 find us online slider dot com, and you use the 199 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:02.960 participation code two six ' nine nine seven nine four two. Sorry, 200 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.639 that's two six nine seven nine four to two, and 201 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:10.720 that will come through to us anonymously. And the questions 202 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:13.399 on the floor are what would you like to hear 203 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:19.799 more of on Talking Point? And which was your favorite 204 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.320 program of twenty twenty four? 205 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:23.919 Oh? 206 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:24.799 Some good world? 207 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:29.240 So so yeah, so I think I'm what twenty twenty 208 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:31.240 five here right, Let's see if you can edit that. 209 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.960 But yes, that's that's supposed to be the question, which 210 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.960 is your favorite program of twenty twenty four? Slider dot com. 211 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:44.360 Jump on in there. We won't know, I promise who 212 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:48.879 it is, and as long as it's respectable, we shall 213 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.360 share your commentary on there. 214 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.399 Cool, So that's slider dot com. 215 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.399 Slider dot com and the s l I D O 216 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:05.039 do and then your participation code. It's going to be 217 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.159 open for the next few days actually, so we will 218 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.720 share what we capture now and then we will share 219 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:15.960 what's left in the episode to come. Two six nine 220 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:22.320 seventy nine for two is the participation code code lovely cool. 221 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.679 So there's lots of ways to get in contact with us, 222 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:27.799 and you know, as Zenya said, it always makes it 223 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.759 really interesting if we want to hear your if we 224 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.360 want to hear your thoughts. It's called talking point for 225 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.519 a reason because we like to talk and I know 226 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:36.960 people have lots of opinions, lots of thoughts as well, 227 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.320 so definitely want to hear them. So yeah, get in 228 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:44.039 contact whichever way the seven ways we've highlighted, So yeah, 229 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.039 let us know your thoughts and what have you. But 230 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.919 as always, before we get into a further discussion, let's 231 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:54.559 pray for the program and then we'll continue. Father God, 232 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:57.799 I want to thank you for blessing us today, Dear Lord. 233 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.240 It's been our first birth of for twenty twenty five 234 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.240 and I thank you, Dear Lord, that we have made 235 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.279 it thus far. I prayed in Lord that you will 236 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.080 help us to use this platform wisely. It's an opportunity 237 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.639 and a privilege to be able to share with people. 238 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.639 And I pray, dear Lord, that whatever we share can 239 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.440 be a blessing to someone and ultimately bring them closer 240 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:22.000 to you. I thank you for hearing and answering our prayers, 241 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:24.000 the Lord, and the amazing things that you are going 242 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:29.159 to do for us this year, And this is my prayer. Amen. Okay, 243 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.080 so Xanya, how did you spend the break? How was 244 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.679 your New year? 245 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:34.120 How is? 246 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:35.159 Yeah? 247 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.399 Oh yeah, it was a little bit too busy, and 248 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:43.440 you were right, possibly why I ended up being poorly. 249 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:50.279 Usually spend the Christmas out of town with family, so yeah, 250 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:52.600 that's what we did this year, packed up as we 251 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.480 always do, pack up the Christmas table and all, and 252 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.279 went about our business and travel around that time. Here 253 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:08.799 is hectic. It's busy, it's chaotic, you know, and uh yeah, 254 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.759 I was exhausted by the end of it and slightly 255 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.960 fluey at the end of it. But and that's what 256 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.920 Christmas is about. It's no longer about the adults, it's 257 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.160 about the kids. And certainly we had a good time, 258 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.400 you know, play play play soft plays and you know, 259 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:31.240 screaming children and oh my days, I'm to say to. 260 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:32.000 All of this, but. 261 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.160 Yeah, I certainly feel it from time to time. But 262 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:41.039 they say, you know, they shall keep me young. So yeah, 263 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.400 we were busy running behind screaming children and just having 264 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.039 a good time and enjoying each other's company. 265 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.799 And then. 266 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.640 Once that was done, got back to London and found 267 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:59.599 myself at the New Year's Eve, the lame of London 268 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:05.279 New Year's Even celebration. Always wanted to go, always wanted 269 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.720 to go, and finally found myself some tickets that were 270 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:14.720 relatively reasonable. Picture was listening and going. 271 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:23.640 Nad But but I guess you did it once, and 272 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:28.279 I've done it years ago exactly paying that much money. 273 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.839 But if anything, but you know, it's a you did 274 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:32.799 it once, you. 275 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.359 Don't want That's That's what I'd say to anybody who 276 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.359 may be thinking of it, maybe wanting to go, and 277 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:45.359 wants to brave the cold and the crowd the two season. Meanwhile, 278 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.400 I had a cold, But yeah, if I hadn't booked 279 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:50.480 the tickets and bought the tickets, I would not have 280 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.440 left my house. But having said that, it was relatively 281 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:59.000 mild and not windy where we were, though I had 282 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.680 friends say that they have to rush in after fireworks 283 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.799 were done because it was gusty where they were. But 284 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.640 I'm not buying myself. And you know, in the area 285 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:13.759 that was closest to the eye, the London I and 286 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.799 the London Eye was featured quite heavily in this year's 287 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:21.319 fireworks because they were celebrating twenty five years of its 288 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:27.440 blessing beautifying the London skyline. So it was really, really, 289 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.319 really really good. I thank the Lord for holding the weather, 290 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.640 and it wasn't raining and I could feel my fingertips 291 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:36.839 at the end of it. My nose wasn't falling off. 292 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.839 You know, there's all the stuff I was bracing myself 293 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.200 for what I did buy the tickets earlier this year, thought, 294 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:45.839 oh my goodness, within the woolies and all that. I know, 295 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.000 it wasn't necessary at all. It was just really nice, 296 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:54.039 really really nice atmosphere. Not as energetic as I thought 297 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.400 it would be. It really just kicked off a few 298 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.920 minutes before midnight. Maybe it's where we were, I don't know, 299 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.359 but we got there relatively early so we could secure 300 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:09.400 a good spot because the crowds were manic, absolute madness. 301 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.720 But we were there early enough, and adjusting only really 302 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.279 began sort of towards midnight when people were trying to 303 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.640 get better views. But I stood my ground place to say, 304 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.039 I went live as well in IG So that was fun, 305 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:27.359 and yeah, it was good and I crawled back into 306 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:28.759 my bed and I haven't left since. 307 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:32.000 Cool. So you're celebrated the new year, it was also 308 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.440 a celebration of another sorts, if I remember right. 309 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:40.200 Indeed, it's my anniversary. So many people are gonna go 310 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.839 she's mad, yes, yes, yes, keeping it close to my 311 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.240 chest because I just thought, let me, let me nurse 312 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:53.640 this thing once it's it's blossoming. Because yeah, I find marriage. 313 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.319 It's something you've got to just saturate in prayer and patience, 314 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.960 you know. And I'm thankful, really really thankful to I 315 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:09.640 found someone who loves even me as pesky and as 316 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:12.680 troublesome as I can be. And others are shaking their 317 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:17.359 head absolutely not. Yeah, No, I am an angel really, 318 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.319 you know. He's been really good to myself and my family, 319 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.640 and I'm really grateful. And some days are difficult, don't 320 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.240 get me wrong. And I challenge anybody who says marriage 321 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:38.079 is easy but well worth it. You know, I can't 322 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:39.759 think of anybody else. I don't want to spend the 323 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:41.799 rest of my life with them or things get difficult. 324 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:43.680 That's what comes to mind. 325 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:44.079 You know. 326 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:50.559 It's not for it's not the it's not a race 327 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:56.000 for the swift. It's for those who endure so all 328 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.960 the nice, majestic, romantic gesture to be underneath love that 329 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:06.119 starry and glitzy skies. For my anniversary which is New 330 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:10.039 Years And actually I've taken up all the all the 331 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:11.119 show with my chatter. 332 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.480 Sorry, that's that's that's what we're talking. That's what we do, 333 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.200 as we say, we're looking back as it were, so 334 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.480 an interesting Actually we haven't got any eclipse today on 335 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.119 this one, but we had done when we do February. 336 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:26.519 You know, we did a whole sort of series around 337 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.640 relationships and marriage, and we have several couples on who 338 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.759 were sharing their words of wisdom who've been married, you 339 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:39.079 know for quite a long time, nineteen years, twenty years, 340 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.359 thirty something years, and you're just like, wow, so yeah, sounds. 341 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:48.240 So far away, my goodness. Yeah, And kudos to f 342 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.000 to marriages and couples that. 343 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.440 Stand the test of time, work hard to make it 344 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:56.279 work as it were. 345 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:02.640 Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely all right. How about you? I 346 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.759 mean again, do you spend your Christmas Alia again? 347 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.680 Christmasas it was busy. I was thankful to be kind 348 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.559 of off work for you know, the two weeks, which 349 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:16.200 has been good. I went to some family friends for 350 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.720 Christmas dinner and stuff, and that was, you know, it's 351 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.720 really nice, you know, sort of lots of as you said, chaos, 352 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:27.200 you know, lots of energy, kind of upbeat. I actually 353 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.079 was very tired, and I actually believe I actually fell 354 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.160 over on that day as well. So yeah, I stumbled 355 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.400 something from the car, and I stumbled, as you do. 356 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:40.599 I just thought, oh my goodness, well as I seem 357 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:44.640 to do these days. So I kind of then felt 358 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.599 really kind of a little sore and a bit tired. 359 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:48.240 So I, you know, ends up sort of as I 360 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.519 do quite often, fall asleep. But you know, it's some 361 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.799 good food, had a laugh and stuff, so that was 362 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:55.359 really cool. 363 00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:00.799 And then Dan, yeah, and then and christ to the 364 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:01.799 Center Bill. 365 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.400 Indeed, indeed in their New Years again, I was at church. 366 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.079 I had a service bringing in there the new year. 367 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.119 Then and then I did, unlike you, I did watch 368 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.079 the fireworks. But I sat in the comfort of my 369 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.680 house alma sofa, And it's funny because usually I would 370 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.680 take pictures and make it look like I was if 371 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.519 I'm really there. And I sat there for a moment 372 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:22.200 and just thought, oh, I really can't be bothered to 373 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.319 do that. And then I was like, I feel compelled. 374 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.200 Actually I want to. I want to. I think over 375 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.279 this last year, I've definitely been thinking about, you know, 376 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.680 memories and the idea of and again we'll look, we'll 377 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:35.000 talk a little bit about this in one of the 378 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.240 shows that was quite dear to my heart in terms 379 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.920 of you know, memories, making memories and preserving them as well, 380 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.279 because at some points we may not have them, or 381 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.359 we might not have people around and what have you. 382 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.359 So I did actually take pictures like I was like, 383 00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.039 do you know what, Oh this is so great. I 384 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.519 love this, So let me just you know, immortalize that 385 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.720 as it were. So yeah, and then it's kind of 386 00:24:57.799 --> 00:24:59.680 suddenly it's all over and I should be back to 387 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.240 work towards the end of next week. I've got a 388 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.160 few more days off hopefully, So yeah, it has to 389 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:06.119 get back into the swing of. 390 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.799 Most people seem to have had two weeks off, which 391 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.119 so you was full if you've used it to rest 392 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.160 and recharged, because yeah, it's full frontal I imagine once 393 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:19.799 everyone gets back, yes through the work doors. 394 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:25.160 Yes, so yeah, okay, so here we are. That was 395 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.160 twenty twenty four. So, as I said at the beginning, 396 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:28.680 we're going to be looking back at some of the 397 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:33.319 shows that we did throughout twenty twenty four. And I 398 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.200 was thinking about today, I was where was I. I 399 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:39.039 was reading today and listening to the service there, thinking 400 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.240 about sort of what our purpose. The question was asked, 401 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.000 you know, what's your purpose? And you know, sometimes you 402 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.400 know this time of the year, people think about what 403 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.680 they want to do when it changes, they want to 404 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:53.799 make You know, I'm not necessarily big on resolutions necessarily, 405 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:56.440 And I said, you know, I always if I'm going 406 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.000 to make a resolution, I think you should be starting 407 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:01.279 preparing that from like September, so kind of easing yourself in, 408 00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.319 as it were. But I do like to sometimes think 409 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:08.200 of a particular word or a theme or something to 410 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.759 kind of shape what's going through the new year. Haven't 411 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.519 really this year, I haven't really I've not felt inspired 412 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.880 just yet about something. Although I think the idea has 413 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.799 been mulling in my head a little bit about new 414 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.759 opportunities and seizing those new opportunities. So maybe the idea 415 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:30.240 of newness and doing something new, whatever that looks like, 416 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.599 maybe something to think about that which then kind of 417 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.000 maybe think about, you know, then what you need to 418 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.279 do to kind of maybe get to those points. I 419 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.480 believe in preparation and planning and everything else. But this 420 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.519 will bring us on to our first show that we 421 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.119 did of twenty twenty four, the first shows that we 422 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.480 did for that first month, where we had one of 423 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.440 our Now, if you're a regulars and noted talking point, 424 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.039 you know that we have our resident therapists. As much 425 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.039 as our team likes to talk and I say our team, 426 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.599 Zenya Pedro. We do have a new member as well, Malemba, 427 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.359 and hopefully we'll hear from her throughout the year as well. 428 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.200 But we have our practitioners on. We have our experts 429 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.240 who would shed a light on many of the topics 430 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.000 that we will talk about and bring that kind of 431 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.960 professional expert for you. And so we had Alison A 432 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.440 Waku who we've had on several times. She's you know, 433 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.759 a therapist, she's an author and she does a whole heap. 434 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.079 She does a whole heap of things. Actually, she actually 435 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.200 came to our church to do we had a mental 436 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.039 Health no Family Life day. She came and was the 437 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.400 guest speak of that and actually I was doing an introduction, 438 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.960 and you know, she's she does. She does so many 439 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:46.319 different things, wear so many different hats. It's completely dedicated, 440 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:50.160 you know, her life to kind of helping people, supporting people. 441 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:52.880 But she's ultimately a child of God, and you know 442 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.000 she's passionate about Christ and passionate for bringing people to 443 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.759 Christ as well. So we started off the year with 444 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:03.240 the series that she has created called Breaking Down Strongholds, 445 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.240 And this is an opportunity to think about some of 446 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.960 those things that really hold us back. And you know, 447 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.319 sometimes we want to make new starts, we want to 448 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.960 do something different, but there are things from our I say, 449 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.880 our past. It could be something very present that stops 450 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.359 us from doing that or makes it really difficult, and 451 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.160 sometimes you know, we can't. It's not about this, you're 452 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.720 doing all this by ourselves. You know, we've got to 453 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.200 be close to God and allow Him to work through 454 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.480 us as well. I'm really reminded of a visions four 455 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.160 twenty two, where it says you were taught, with regard 456 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:39.839 to your former way of life, to put off your 457 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.759 old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires, 458 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.200 to be made new in the attitude of your minds, 459 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.519 and to be put on the new self created to 460 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.000 be like God in true righteousness and holiness. Now we 461 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.440 may read text like that, however, we know that life 462 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:59.160 has a way of lifing and the idea of strongholds 463 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.920 things that really hold us back are really real. So 464 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.920 she kind of we spent the month going through various 465 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:10.279 topics in themes that you know about things that can 466 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.200 hold us back. But our first clip we're going to 467 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.480 play today was just her really explaining a little bit 468 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.839 about who she was and what she kind of based 469 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.319 the series around. So I'm going to play this first 470 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.519 clip now, yeah, and then we'll chat about that because 471 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.559 I know, I learned a whole I learned a lot, 472 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:30.759 and it was just it was a really really good series. 473 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.160 I definitely definitely want to listen back. So let's have 474 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:39.640 listened to Alison now, who. 475 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:44.160 Haven't heard from me before? My name is Alison's surname 476 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.920 is Awoku spelled a. 477 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.039 W U k U. 478 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:56.599 I'm a qualified counselor and accredited psychotherapist. What can I say. 479 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.680 I'm a member of the Walking I'm church and just 480 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:02.079 just a child of God. 481 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:02.519 Really. 482 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:09.880 I serve on various areas committees within within the Seven 483 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:13.759 day Adventist Church, and it's it's just a pleasure to 484 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:15.680 be back here. I'm just going to talk a bit 485 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.559 about the series. Like Xenia said, it's a series that 486 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.119 I've run for for my local church and for another 487 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.480 small group, and I think that it's you know, I 488 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:31.319 heard Pedro talking about having the right mindset in this 489 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:36.799 new year, and I think it's it's serious to start 490 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.839 the new year with We all will always say Happy 491 00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:41.920 New Year at the start of every new year. We 492 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.720 know that as the year goes by, we will have challenges, 493 00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.839 and you know, some of these challenges are quite are 494 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:54.960 quite strong, and well we'll will really derail derail us 495 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.440 in many ways. And so we're here to talk about strongholds. 496 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.319 Why here to talk about the things that kind of 497 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.279 take over our minds, the things that really impact us 498 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.440 very strongly. And how did the series come about? It 499 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.720 came about really as a kind of a desire really 500 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.960 to help people live more abundant lives. And you know 501 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.640 it's really the background is taken from the Book of 502 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:28.599 Second Corinthians, chapter ten, Versus three to five, where Paul 503 00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.720 is writing to the church in Koreans and he says, 504 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.160 although we walk in the flesh, we do not walk 505 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.680 against the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are 506 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.240 not canal, but mighty in God, for pulling down strongholds, 507 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:50.640 casting down arguments, and every high thing that exalts itself 508 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:55.039 against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity 509 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.880 to the obedience of Christ. So essentially, what we're looking 510 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.079 to do here is wire looking to help people live 511 00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:09.960 life more abundantly. In twenty twenty four listeners to talking Point, 512 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.599 we want all of us to experience more abundant living. 513 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.799 In the Book of John ten verse ten, crisis I 514 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.240 have come, but they may have life and have it 515 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.839 more abundantly. And so we are really trying to focus 516 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.240 here on physic, on emotional and mental wellbeing, which obviously 517 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.720 does have a knock on effect on physical wellbeing. So 518 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.400 that's what the series is about. Today we're just going 519 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.079 to talk about an introduction, but next time we're going 520 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:52.119 to be talking about worry, fear, and anxiety, so that 521 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.440 impacts us. And then we'll be talking about dealing with 522 00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:01.880 depression and then anger and then coming trauma, dealing with rejection, 523 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.599 and lastly we'll be looking at understanding our work. So 524 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.039 that's an overview of the series. 525 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.079 So that was a very quick introduction, as I said, 526 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.559 of what the series was about. So Xanya, I know, 527 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.599 we've got another clip. She mentioned the different topics that 528 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.119 we covered. What are you What were your thoughts on 529 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.400 this series that we did to start off our year. 530 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.559 Okay, I found this on the web for this series 531 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:35.839 that we did to start a fire. 532 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:36.599 Check it out. 533 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.440 That's my laptop thing weird things, interesting technology. 534 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.119 Yeah, I'm sure the listeners have heard me, but kind 535 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.200 I was gonna say bang on about I read this 536 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.519 radio but yes it was. When I heard it a 537 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.880 really good series, I thought it was worth sharing with 538 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.279 our listeners, and so it was. The response. The feedback 539 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:09.800 has been phenomenal and it's what it says on the tin. 540 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.840 It's just a lot of wonderful nuggets as to how 541 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.320 we could break the strongholds in or bring down the 542 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:20.440 strongholds in our lives, and the topics were relevant and 543 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.039 I'm certain if you have not dealt with one of 544 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.079 these issues, you will. It's just life lives, and these 545 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.000 things come up, they come up maybe once, they come 546 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.280 up time and time again, and certainly if you have 547 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:41.280 not leveraged this series, then you will find it useful 548 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.960 at some point in your life. And as Angie said 549 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.719 at the very top, they can be found on spreaker 550 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.480 dot com, along with all the other programs that we want. 551 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.679 Many of the other programs that we've done, uh, the 552 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.039 one that resonates with me or I mean, all of 553 00:34:56.119 --> 00:35:00.639 them are really really packed. Depression. It was a really 554 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.840 good one and Allison wrote down as she did with 555 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.840 every topic, the nitty gritty, the biology that you know, 556 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.519 the philosophy, the you know, the theology. We had it 557 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:17.000 all in the series. And I know, Angie you said 558 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.920 it as well. We were busy writing notes and Alison 559 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.840 did say to us that that's what she really enjoyed 560 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.280 about presenting the program on Talking Point is that we 561 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.920 kept her on our toes. We were listening, we were 562 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:33.599 paying attention, and we were asking the relevant questions. And 563 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:38.079 not only did did we really benefit from the program, 564 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.239 but like I said, the responses and the feedback from 565 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.679 our listeners was that it was amazing and well worth 566 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:47.440 tuning in for. 567 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.480 So yeah, I really liked Yeah, No, I totally agree, 568 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.599 and I really liked the way. I'm quite a visual person, 569 00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.639 and she was very descriptive in you know, brazy breaking 570 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.519 things down, and I guess, you know, the idea of 571 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.679 what of thinking about what a stronghold is and how 572 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.079 that's used in different in different forms, but actually a 573 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.880 stronghold potentially could be somewhere of protection, but if it 574 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.760 all gets too much, then it actually works against us. 575 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.199 I also love the fact that it was very it's 576 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.480 very it was very biblicy based. You know, she not 577 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.239 only sort of wrote things down in terms of what 578 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.800 things were and gave some really practical suggestions on how 579 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.159 to manage and cope with things, which things that we 580 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.360 can do ourselves. But at the center of it, all, 581 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.039 you know, was scripture encouraging verses, you know, looking to 582 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.519 the Word of God for the inspiration and you know, 583 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.840 the way in which we can do things. So I 584 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.159 really I really did enjoy that, and I really how 585 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.639 she sort of centered things around that way as well. So, yeah, 586 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.559 and all the topics we know that you said they 587 00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.800 were all very they're all very relevant, and you know, 588 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.239 we're going to listen to one around trauma shortly. But 589 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.840 you know, again, they're things that we've probably all gone 590 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.840 through on different levels and we'll probably. 591 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.280 Will go through. 592 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.119 Continued. And I did really like one of the ones 593 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.159 that we kind of ended with a knowing your worth 594 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.280 as well, because I think sometimes, you know, we may 595 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.079 be going through all these challenges and sometimes we don't 596 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:25.320 think we know, God loves us unconditionally, He gives us 597 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.840 grace and mercy all the time, but yet sometimes we 598 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.199 feel that we don't deserve that and we don't really 599 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.760 recognize how valuable you we are, maybe because we're going 600 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.159 through some of these challenges and maybe we're not coping 601 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.159 so well and it makes us feel maybe that we're 602 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.159 not trusting Him enough for not doing all the right 603 00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.000 things and everything else. But you know, that was a 604 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.480 really that was a really poilliant one as well. So again, 605 00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:53.239 you know, when I thank Allison for sharing her passion, 606 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.599 sharing her knowledge and her wisdom with this series, and 607 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.599 you know, do check it out on Spreaker. But we're 608 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.000 going to listen now to one of the clip from 609 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.159 one of the shows around trauma and how we can 610 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.400 manage and deal with trauma. So let's pop that one 611 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:11.840 on the. 612 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.360 That what is manifesting, what's above water, as it were, 613 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:24.639 based on your analogy, is because of trauma, because there's 614 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.760 so many other things that could be going on. Or 615 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.159 is it always trauma if I'm if I'm depressed, if 616 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.320 I'm if I am struggling with sleep, if I can't 617 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:40.679 moderate my anger and my emotions. Is there always an 618 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:46.199 underlying traumatic event that maybe I haven't really sort of 619 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.079 discovered or focused on. Is that at what point then 620 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.880 do I? Or is at this point that I go 621 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.199 to the doctor or to to you know, a therapist 622 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.760 and so forth and try to unpack what might be 623 00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.639 going on with me. So does that make sense? 624 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:01.039 It does? 625 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.000 It does absolutely. 626 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.360 So what you're trying to do is look for the 627 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:08.079 tell tale signs like this is actually as a result 628 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.480 of trauma, not not just anything else. So I'd just 629 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.119 like to say that every every behavior has a has 630 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:22.400 a root and has a function, and it's likely that 631 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.800 you know it's as a result of a trauma, or 632 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.800 it's likely that it's as a result of something else. 633 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:34.159 But how we know is we can think of, right, 634 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.679 the way in which I'm behaving, is it proportionate to 635 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.400 actually the situation, the circumstances around me. Now, if there's 636 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.400 an overreaction, then it's wise to think, Okay, when was 637 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.079 the last time, when it's another time that I felt 638 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.119 this way and another time that I felt this way, 639 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.960 because that could lead you to a traumatic situation, And 640 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.960 how was that handle? How is the address? How did 641 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.880 I feel at that time? Did I feel like really threatened? 642 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.280 Did I feel like my life was in danger? Did 643 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.000 I feel completely helpless? Do I have flashbacks about this situation? 644 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.880 Is there any situation in my life that I have 645 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:23.840 difficulties kind of moving on from because I have things 646 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:28.320 that just bring back either the whole memory or bits 647 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:35.280 of memory. Because you know some of these very strong reactions, it's. 648 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.000 Likely that that connected to something else in the past. 649 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.920 Otherwise your response would be proportionate to the situation at hand. 650 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.199 So by yourself you can you can do a bit of. 651 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:50.039 Kind of. 652 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:54.079 Analysis. 653 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.960 However, if you arrive at the point where you think, oh, 654 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.760 there's something in my past that and you know what 655 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.159 happens is a lot of people just try to get on, 656 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.440 just keep going, depending on the culture. For some cultures 657 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.280 are very much for you know, just keep going, you're 658 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.320 going to be okay, or pray about it. It's going 659 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.280 to be fine. But we have to understand that, you know, 660 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.159 when it comes to trauma, there are things that are 661 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.920 happening in your brain as part of a natural process 662 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:24.519 because something's gone wrong. 663 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.800 It's not you not wanting to move on. 664 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.760 It's your brain playing back information because the hypo campus 665 00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:37.119 has not been able to function and store things us memory. 666 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.360 The proof frontal cortex is not able to regulate the 667 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.159 emotions as it should. So I think it's you know, 668 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.559 as human beings, we are integrated beings. We're integrated with 669 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.679 our present and our past are quite integrated. So it's 670 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.400 really really important that we look out for the connections 671 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:03.119 in our history or in our earlier or early significant experiences, 672 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:08.840 because it's likely that those experiences are triggers, and you know, 673 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.280 what's happening in the here and now is triggering memories 674 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.920 from what's happening. So if your response is disproportionate to 675 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.360 the situation at hand, then I'd say you need to 676 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.519 investigate a bit more by just reflecting. 677 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.280 When it's another time I felt this way. 678 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:32.679 And if you're consciously and intentionally trying to avoid you know, 679 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.239 reflecting or thinking of that thing that's happening in the past, 680 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:42.239 because avoidance is one of the really big symptoms of PTSD, 681 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.480 then you know that it's likely that there's trauma in 682 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.760 the But then at that point you need to go. 683 00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.480 To a mental health professional or go to a GP to. 684 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.000 Get referred to a mental health professional and get yourself 685 00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:57.039 assessed for trauma. 686 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.639 There are quite specific assess men's for PTSD. 687 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.679 Yeah, and when you as you're talking, I'm thinking that 688 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.320 these cases may more relate to those small tea's that 689 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.159 you're talking about. If it's a catastrophic or a very 690 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.800 big tee, then you may be able to pinpoint what 691 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.559 has caused this. But it's those small teas, you know, 692 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.719 the abuse as a child by your father or whatever, 693 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.280 or sexual abuse or that kind of those kinds of 694 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.639 circumstances that might manifest themselves. And you know, you may 695 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.440 be a relationship and you're not sure why you're responding 696 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.440 to your husband or your wife that way, and it 697 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.760 could be those underlying issues. 698 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.119 Absolutely, it's like a chain reaction. 699 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.159 What are you trying to say? 700 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.400 Your line and look forget about all that other junk. 701 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.440 This battle ain't yours. 702 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.840 Yes, a low bring about and then shout. 703 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:17.079 Yet me see it's no pay Jesus kid, feed theres 704 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:23.960 bok heart that he cann died. 705 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:33.480 He all things want, Yes. 706 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.679 They do according to the fastest purpose. 707 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:40.960 And this whole you. 708 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:51.360 Madala, you and balcony I'm going through. Remember the god 709 00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.360 of the wls a chance to use. 710 00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:57.599 The battle. 711 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.480 He is not, oh. 712 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.199 Skins the world. 713 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:06.760 We're gonna sell the meaddle. 714 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:16.159 That all right, that is no sad. Jesus cannot be. 715 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:29.039 Side that the mister is not able and willing to hate. 716 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.400 Remember that all. 717 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.519 They're not gonna be all good, but they. 718 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:48.440 Shall on according to God's pragmas and his o meddle. 719 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.480 No matter what you're doing. 720 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.360 With broom retimber, God sees all that it knows. 721 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:03.960 All it wants to do is choose you dispanti is yours. 722 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:23.400 It's instance. It's the it's noticely God. And think you 723 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.679 got to hold your head. Had you belong to the fust, 724 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:37.679 you don't need to hurt. It's the wall, it's. 725 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:38.320 The d. 726 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:56.599 Killing yessiceelay, No matter what you're going through, Piper, it's 727 00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.199 gonna be here. He's just using. 728 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:08.440 Don't matter what you're happen to go through. Man, Remember 729 00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.519 this would be a mini God is all in choosing. 730 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:19.079 He's not happing. You got to knowing your hot. But 731 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:25.400 no matter what comes, no matter what does God, he 732 00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.280 Lord he lost this fasts not you. 733 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.920 He need tres approaching a men's good. 734 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:41.440 I like you got to it. Hold on, can, hold 735 00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:44.519 down cold, don't. 736 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:50.599 Get up, get, don't get don't get step out of 737 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.159 the bait, step out of bite. 738 00:47:59.559 --> 00:47:59.760 Miss. 739 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.639 Yes, no matter what you're going through, hold your head up, 740 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.760 stick your chest out to remember, He's just using you, 741 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.199 no matter what you're going through. God is just use 742 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.920 you for The battle is not yours alone. Yes, that's 743 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:18.199 your landa Adam, And that's a fitting song thinking about 744 00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:22.400 our first series that we did in January about breaking 745 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.559 strongholds with Alison a Waku. Indeed, as much as she 746 00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:29.039 gave us some really practical advice, the battle is not 747 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.199 just ours to deal within our own. The Lord has 748 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.800 got us and he will bring you through. So that 749 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:41.199 brings us nicely onto our next our next program that 750 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.480 we're going to kind of feature now Zen. Yeah, this 751 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.000 was I want to hand over to you on this 752 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.079 one because this was one of your your favorites. 753 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.400 Well, I just wanted to just go back to Alison, 754 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.480 just a very quick point to remind our listeners that 755 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:02.440 there is extra support out here. We speak of God's 756 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:07.079 per personally, his strength and his ability to get us 757 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.280 through the crisis, but He's also put people in positions 758 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:16.920 that they can assist. We're talking therapists, psychotherapist, doctors, et cetera. 759 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.159 We hope to maybe share some information on whom you 760 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:26.079 can contact. Recently have our own counseling Christian counseling service. 761 00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:27.800 So do not. 762 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.760 Attempt to tackle these big issues, especially if you start 763 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:38.360 feeling overwhelmed by them on your own. Reach out and 764 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.400 get the support that you need. And obviously if you're 765 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.960 in a position to support someone, sign post someone, then 766 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.840 do that as well. I think we all need to 767 00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.159 look out for each other within the church context and 768 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.039 winin our own communities. 769 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:59.199 Yes, definitely, definitely, And so yeah, that just. 770 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:04.159 Leads me nice into Season Dialogue. I really enjoyed that 771 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:11.880 program highlight for me and we were speaking with Lisa 772 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:19.679 Lisa Marie and Season Dialogue has now become a six 773 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:25.360 hundred thousand strong followers, a platform which she uses to 774 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:32.480 do spoken word more than anything and encourage persons who 775 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:39.159 are listening to her on several really crucial issues, whether 776 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.679 she's talking about protecting your space, protecting your energy, whether 777 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:50.559 she's talking about learning to let go, learning to live 778 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.360 your best life, and which what was really good to 779 00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.159 hear her they in the podcast we did and in 780 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.679 her podcast generally, is how she realies on God. You know, 781 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:10.400 she shares that regularly, and it's really good to see 782 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:16.440 people thriving, you know, but still putting God as a 783 00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:22.480 focus and not being afraid to do that because sometimes 784 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.239 people who who want to the limelight or want to 785 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.440 entertain a shy away from introducing God because they don't 786 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.719 know who that might offend or whether that will mean losing, 787 00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.199 you know, certain communities and all that kind of thing. 788 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:44.719 But she's bold enough and brave enough to say God 789 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.559 is her center. God is the reason why she's got 790 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.000 the success that she has. And I was talking to 791 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.239 her the other day and just a side note, but 792 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:56.480 I don't know if you're realizing it, but a lot 793 00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:00.760 of celebrities and people in power, a lot more of 794 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.599 them are now talking about God. I don't know if 795 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.199 life is lifeing for them as it lives for us all, 796 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.000 but you're starting to realize. Like I was listening to 797 00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.679 a program yesterday with Jamie Fox, who had, you know, 798 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.480 this major health issue last year, and in his stand 799 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.920 up routine, he just acknowledges how he had gone far 800 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.320 from God. And you know, this was a wake a 801 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.760 call for him. And I'm hearing so many others say it. 802 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.719 So to God with the glory, and they're using their 803 00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.559 platforms to lift God up, and he will only draw 804 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.880 men and women to him. So really really pleased that 805 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.719 she responded to the invitation and shared with us a 806 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.840 little bit about her, a little bit about social media 807 00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.280 and what it means to have that kind of following 808 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:59.239 and to keep producing authentically, and also she shared a 809 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:04.039 little bit about I think she shared someone Praised for Me, 810 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.559 which is one of her pieces about prayer and about God. 811 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.800 So yeah, it was a really good time. I think 812 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:14.880 you both also enjoyed the interaction, and it was our 813 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:21.039 first time going live. That was a bit of an experience, 814 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.880 but we can only get better at that and we're 815 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.599 hoping to do more of that. And interestingly enough, a 816 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.679 lot of people who I've connected to on Instagram, and 817 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.280 I mean I've only got about ninety people on there, 818 00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.119 but it's so amazing how God works. And I just 819 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.599 reach out and say, hey, I do a program talking 820 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.880 point here the links if you like, if it's something 821 00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:48.039 you could be on board with, then please And so 822 00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:50.599 many people are responding, So many people who I didn't 823 00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.840 think would respond are responding. And I can only say, 824 00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:54.320 that's God. 825 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.119 Yeah, it's interesting you're saying actually that, you know. Sometimes 826 00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.760 I don't know whether it's just some times we sometimes 827 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.599 could be in our sort of own church bubble, and 828 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.400 I think I don't think people are reversed to God, Christianity, spirituality, 829 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.519 and I think maybe just the way society in the 830 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.519 world is going that people are kind of looking for 831 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:19.920 something more, you know, and you know, recognizing yeah, yeah 832 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.960 there is something more and something that can interject Yeah, 833 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:29.519 go ahead. Oh by the way, yes, let's still a 834 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:33.760 quick introduction of our third co host, who we've alluded 835 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:39.760 to earlier in the show. Butch me on the radio. 836 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.360 I don't know what you're saying, Petrack for men. 837 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:43.800 Out there everywhere. I had to come back on and 838 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:44.400 be like, wait. 839 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.599 A minute, I love it, welcome Pedro. 840 00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:51.280 Or whatever. 841 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.199 I was just and by the way, yeah that was 842 00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.760 too much, but anyway, we won't go into that. Yeah 843 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.159 we had a conversation offline on that one, but no, 844 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.760 the other put I'm glad celeberties are doing that, but 845 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.760 it's still an uphill battle in this well, it's not 846 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.079 an uphill battle because God can make anything positive or 847 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.679 make anything good, but they still trying to keep God 848 00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.320 out of it. Because I remember there was a football 849 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:24.320 game just this week and the quarterback said first started 850 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.079 off by saying all praises of God Almighty up above, 851 00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.159 you know, thinking for his gracious and when they want 852 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:31.960 to give him the trope when it was time for 853 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.400 the trophy, he was the MVP, and that they wouldn't 854 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.679 let him on the stage, and it came out because 855 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.719 he had thanked God before his and his other speech, 856 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:42.800 so they would have let him up to speak again. 857 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.679 They let all his teammates go up, but he was 858 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.280 the only one that was left down on the battle 859 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.360 because and they it came out there it was because 860 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:57.280 he had thank God for you know, for the football 861 00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.280 game and everything. So you know, it's it's still they're 862 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.079 still trying to push back some a little bit. Yeah, 863 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.000 but I'm glad that but you're right, I'm glad that 864 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.440 they are now, you know, saying it more and putting 865 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:08.880 it out you know, putting it out there. 866 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.039 And because I mean me going up, me living here. 867 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.639 Now, I know if I say I'm a Christian or 868 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.400 I believe in God, the looks I guess sometimes is just. 869 00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:19.079 Like what's that? 870 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.599 Not even it's not even about God, or it's just 871 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:24.360 like some some of them actually look like they don't 872 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:25.280 even know what God. 873 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.519 Is and that submission, isn't it. That's what we are 874 00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.159 here for to to, you know, lift him up. 875 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.920 Yeah, once he's list your point because I was just 876 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:36.519 listening to you. 877 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:41.760 Yeah, okay, let's listen to a couple of clips from 878 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.679 from Lisa Marie and season season dialogue. 879 00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:49.440 Chldren. 880 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.400 Whatever you share on social media, is it something that 881 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.239 years later you can look at it and it's still 882 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.960 not you know, when are respectful? You know, if Mama 883 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:00.239 saw it, would she be like. 884 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.280 Oh, that's my baby, or we should be like take 885 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:07.159 it down now, you know, have some form of respect. 886 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:13.920 And also you know, it's such a different time with compared. 887 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.840 To what I grew up on and what my kids 888 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:21.880 sing the phone, the tablet is always in their hands. 889 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:26.000 And I will say this, and I can't compare this. 890 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.119 I don't have a girl, but I do have friends 891 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:35.599 who have girls. And the images that are projected and 892 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.760 that young girls see. 893 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:43.960 It's disheartening. Yep, it's disheartening. 894 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:51.760 There's not enough women being shown respectfully that have conversations 895 00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.000 that young women, young girls need to hear. And I 896 00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:59.119 also say that with what is the influence when it 897 00:57:59.199 --> 00:57:59.559 comes to. 898 00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:00.679 Men with. 899 00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:09.679 Words being said, the degrading of women, the lifestyles that 900 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.280 they have. And so I think that when we put 901 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:20.159 into our kids the grounding of what we raise them on, respect, love, honor. 902 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:24.599 You know, dignity, buldren will be who they are. 903 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.159 They will beer off a little bit, but I always 904 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.239 believe that they will come back home, you know, of 905 00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:30.880 what they know. 906 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.800 And with children, this is my relationship with my boys, 907 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:42.440 and this is my belief. We have conversations. I'm gonna 908 00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.280 be honest with you. You know, even though your mom 909 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.559 and we are opposite of sex, I see you and 910 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.760 you can't. You cannot do anything that I don't know 911 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:56.440 nothing about. So let's go ahead honest and have these conversations. 912 00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.800 And I think that as parents, when we don't fully 913 00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.039 in embrace them with maybe the conversations that they're willing 914 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.159 to have, but then they pulled back, you missed that 915 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.360 opportunity to be one on one with your children. So 916 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.280 and we have to remember too, we were young kids 917 00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.360 as well. We didn't do everything perfect, you know, And 918 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:18.440 so having that those conversations and even telling my boys, 919 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.920 you know, your mama used to while aloud back. 920 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:21.480 In the day, but. 921 00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:24.840 We're here. 922 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.119 I understand that you are a teenager because these things. 923 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:32.320 I also understand that you're gonna go through some growing pages, 924 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.760 You're gonna make some mistakes, but I'm here to prevent 925 00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:39.159 you from making those mistakes and just being honest with 926 00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.559 your kids, honestly and not acting as if you. 927 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:43.559 Are an angel, and that all your you know, your 928 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.719 debth and none of us were perfect. 929 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:55.840 Oh that was an interesting clique that one talking about, Yeah, 930 00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.800 parenting these conversations, any thought something like Petro fan Signa. 931 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:02.599 Actually, yeah, it's funny. 932 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.199 Tar and I were just talking about social media coming 933 01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:11.039 home today and how it's changed the outlook on everything 934 01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.599 our children do, and even like how we like when 935 01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.519 we grew up, we didn't you know when you didn't, 936 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.840 it's not just what you see is what you hear, 937 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.039 because it's like now everything could just be put on 938 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.400 social media, where if something happened, you wouldn't see it 939 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:27.079 right away. You would have to go look for it 940 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.800 in the news or in the newspaper. But now you 941 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.400 just go on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, you just go anywhere 942 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.320 and you could just find it like instantaneously. 943 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.320 It's just it's very quickly. 944 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.159 And then it's always sometimes the wrong narrative that they 945 01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:44.280 put out there was like sensentualized things too more than 946 01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.480 what it really is, or they just take the clips 947 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:48.719 they want so they can doctor it and then they 948 01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:50.920 can make it into what they what they want to 949 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.599 portray instead of what really happened, and it's just putting 950 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:59.400 a very distortion on our children and on ourselves. That's 951 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.000 why I don't look at the news or anything anymore really, 952 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.199 because it's always something negative. It's never really nothing positive 953 01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:09.079 that you see on the news. But I remember that conversation. 954 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:11.119 I was trying to remember who that was because we've 955 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:11.519 had a lot of. 956 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:12.119 People this year. 957 01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:14.880 I can't remember people that I spoke to last month, 958 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.800 So when he was talking about I was like, who's 959 01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.519 this again? When she started talking, I remember the memory 960 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:21.400 did the live Instagram, so that's what made me remember 961 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:21.880 who she was. 962 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.360 But yeah, yeah, I wanted to I wanted to share 963 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:33.000 that clip because as parents, I think I struggle. I'm 964 01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.880 not going to speak for everybody, but I struggle because 965 01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:41.119 social media has become so consuming. You know, my son 966 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.760 can disappear into his room for hours, for hours on 967 01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.239 TikTok or Instagram or snapchat or whatever is that he's doing, 968 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:57.519 and it's difficult to pull him away from that because 969 01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.880 this is what all his friends are doing. Fact, when 970 01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:01.920 I I say something, he says, oh, well my friends 971 01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:03.719 are on or my friends have just come on and 972 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.440 we're just going to do something. And I'm like, well, 973 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.440 don't they have stuff to do? Don't they have assignments? 974 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.760 Don't they have chores? And he's like, no, mommy, only 975 01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:14.519 you get them. Okay, well we may have to change 976 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:19.239 of friends then, but it's just it becomes so consuming. 977 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:21.920 And that's why I chose that clip because I just 978 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.559 want to remind our parents. You know, Lisa gives some 979 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:29.079 advice there as a parent who's in the game, as 980 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:33.760 it were, And just to remind our young people as 981 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.320 well that what goes on to that phone, that you 982 01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:42.199 might use, that video, that you might share, that picture, 983 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:46.760 it's there, you know, it's once you release that then 984 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.760 you know, make sure it's something that you can stand 985 01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:52.079 by in years to come when you've had a change 986 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.719 of mind or a change of boyfriend or whatever it is. 987 01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:01.800 Make sure that you can stand by what you've shared 988 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.920 and not be ashamed of it if if circumstances changed, 989 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:11.800 because you can't pull back what you expose on that platform, 990 01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.639 nor can you pull back what you're exposed to on 991 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.719 that platform, as you're saying, Petru. So, yeah, it's really 992 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.639 difficult to navigate, and it requires patience and persistence to 993 01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:26.199 be able to pull our children from them. And I 994 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.119 think as well, we need to provide alternatives. Like my 995 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.199 son's into sports, and I'm thankful that he is, because 996 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:35.000 at least there are moments where he does put down 997 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.760 the screen, he picks up the ball or whatever, you know. 998 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:43.159 So we need to provide other opportunities and other outlets 999 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:45.039 for our young people as well, otherwise they're going to 1000 01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.760 be stuck on that and I'm afraid for what the 1001 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:51.400 generation will look like in Instagram. People who can't talk. Fact, 1002 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.760 that's how my son speaks to me. He will send 1003 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:59.199 me a TikTok message, TikTok videos like crazy. It would 1004 01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:03.199 be will make their sons do chores, And that's the video, 1005 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.239 He'll said to me. And I'll watch it like and 1006 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:08.280 I'll send back sons who refuse to do true videos. 1007 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:15.800 You know, however you communicate it is okay, come to 1008 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:16.480 me and talk. 1009 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:18.760 No, he will send the video a clip of some 1010 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.960 boy goofing off about doing chores, and that's him saying 1011 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.360 to me how he feels about it. And I remember 1012 01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.480 watching on some friend of mine share a video of 1013 01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.400 her two kids at the kitchen table and the caption 1014 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:37.000 was they are actually arguing, that was her caption. And 1015 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.199 there's no conversation going other than they're just tapping away 1016 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:44.039 at their phones at the dining table. And that was 1017 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.679 the caption of the video. You will not believe that 1018 01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.559 my kids are actually having a full blown argument. Here. 1019 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:51.599 I'm gonna go a different way with you. 1020 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:56.400 I'm sorry, Angela, because I think as parents we need 1021 01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.719 the one thing that as parents, some parents don't do 1022 01:04:59.760 --> 01:04:59.920 it SA. 1023 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.280 You know what I mean by that is, you know, 1024 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:05.239 we're the parent the child. 1025 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:09.079 I know children have a little bit more saying and things, 1026 01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.679 but like I tell my children the time, I'm here 1027 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.559 to protect you. So what you know, I'm not gonna 1028 01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:15.880 do nothing that's gonna harm you, hurt you, or put 1029 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:21.039 you in danger. We have and also mainly anything like 1030 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:24.760 with special social media like mind the the ages. Don't 1031 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.360 let your child be on Facebook or TikTok if they 1032 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.800 on need ten yeah, you know, because the stuff that 1033 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.000 they can get exposed to can really hurt them. You know, 1034 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.880 they may come across somebody, may DM them, and then 1035 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:38.639 they don't even know what they're dealing with, and next 1036 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.559 thing you know, they're you know, they're in a conversation 1037 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:42.880 that they don't know how to get out of and 1038 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:44.679 they don't even tell you, and the next thing, you know, 1039 01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.840 they can be you know, it's just so many bad 1040 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:47.599 things can happen. 1041 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:52.559 I go through my kids phones. I go through my 1042 01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:53.400 kids phone. 1043 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.519 Like on a regular basis, not like every week, but 1044 01:05:56.719 --> 01:05:59.400 I do go through their phones, like when being the 1045 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.119 go to bed, we may gonna put their phones down 1046 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:02.840 in the living room and then me and toy. 1047 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.679 We'll go through their phones and see what's on their phone, and. 1048 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:09.239 Then if you see something that we find a little 1049 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.480 bit sketchy, we'll just talk to We won't even accuse 1050 01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:13.559 them or blame them. We'll just say, hey, I saw 1051 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.760 this on your phone. Was what was your thinking? You know, 1052 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:19.440 what was you thinking about? What was what was the idea? 1053 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.079 You know, and then we'll we'll talk to them about it. 1054 01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:22.280 You know. 1055 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.400 We don't never like sit there like like don't do this, 1056 01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:26.960 like we don't do that to them because we don't 1057 01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:28.760 want them to think they're doing something wrong, even though 1058 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.639 they kind of are. Just but just have just have 1059 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.599 to open up that dialogue, like you said, open up 1060 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:36.039 the dialogue and talk to them. Yeah, you know, just 1061 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.039 to show that you know that you that you are 1062 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:39.519 watching them, that you care for them. 1063 01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:47.000 So yeah, yeah, yeah, I really appreciated her take from that. 1064 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.840 I think there's a different clip. But but Angie, we're 1065 01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.119 pressed for time. We can certainly move on. I'll let 1066 01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:53.840 you we can play. 1067 01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.239 So I think she really, I mean I really did 1068 01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:57.880 what she had to say. So we'll play this next 1069 01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.360 one and then we'll move on. 1070 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:13.800 So heavy on oh oh oh my goodness, just so deep, 1071 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.559 so rich. I mean stuff like that where you are 1072 01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:22.280 just thinking, okay, And for me, it's about you saying, listen, 1073 01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.119 heavy on life, heavy on love. Let's go all the 1074 01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:29.400 way in, you know, not not not halfway, not not 1075 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.800 man be pamby. I don't know if anyone knows that term. 1076 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.679 Not wishy washy, none of that kind of stuff. We're 1077 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:36.760 going all in and we're going one hundred percent for 1078 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:39.440 the things that are real, the things that matter, the 1079 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.320 things that we love, the things that we care about, 1080 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.039 the things that's good for us, heavy on and listen. 1081 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.199 I listened to that must spell. I don't even know 1082 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:50.599 how many times I've replayed that and replayed that and 1083 01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:51.159 replayed that. 1084 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:52.159 Tell me. 1085 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.239 I mean, if you can recall that process, and we're 1086 01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.079 gonna we may have to bring a few of the 1087 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.519 commentary in because I'm seeing stuff coming up on our screen, 1088 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.599 and maybe we can touch on summer or all of them. 1089 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.079 But where were you if you can recall when when 1090 01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:08.599 you wrote that one, or what were you going through 1091 01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.039 to make you pay that particular piece. 1092 01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.680 I think for me, I was at a place of 1093 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:21.920 personal complacency and goodness. 1094 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.920 Sometimes placency can be bad where we're not, you know, 1095 01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:26.800 moving forward. 1096 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:32.119 But from that moment of writing that, I felt like 1097 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.600 everything that I personally worked on with my peace, with 1098 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:39.399 my joy, with the love that I felt for myself 1099 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:40.439 and through. 1100 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.680 My partner and my children, I'm heavy on all of that. 1101 01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:45.399 I'm heavy on the love of it. 1102 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.479 I'm heavy on my prayers, I'm heavy on God, I'm 1103 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:51.640 heavy on connecting with people like that. Was that that 1104 01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:56.560 affirmation to say, I am good, I'm at this place 1105 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.760 where I'm heavy on all of these things that are included, 1106 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:01.720 and I'm happy in my life. 1107 01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:03.800 I am happy. 1108 01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:04.319 Yeah. 1109 01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.399 Yeah, that was a powerful piece that she did in 1110 01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:11.199 which we didn't have that. 1111 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:11.800 Yeah. 1112 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.359 I was going to get it to share it as well, 1113 01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.720 but I can't find it anymore and it would be 1114 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:21.640 a little bit sketchy to play from here. I don't 1115 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.159 know if if you can come across as it should. 1116 01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.800 But yeah, she just dynamic and she shared her own. 1117 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.560 She shared a piece on the air as well, Somebody Prayed, 1118 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:38.119 which was just another amazing piece. And most of what 1119 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:41.439 she does just really resonates with me, and I'm certain 1120 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.039 it resonates with her audience because you can't get six 1121 01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:50.239 hundred thousand followers if you're not connecting. So yeah, she's 1122 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.600 really doing wonderful things. I saw her post a post 1123 01:09:54.840 --> 01:10:00.319 with one of the gentlemen from Fast and Furious. Can't 1124 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:05.760 remember his name is Tyres, Yeah yeah, yeah. 1125 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:11.720 And Bloody Black and Ball so yeah he's singer, yes 1126 01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:12.079 he was. 1127 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:16.960 He sings and it's a caption you know, more to come. 1128 01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.920 So it sounds like she's doing really big things with 1129 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.079 really big names, and I wish all the best. And 1130 01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:25.760 she stays connected with me as well, which is which 1131 01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:31.640 is unheard of. So I just yeah, it's it's good, cool, cool, cool, 1132 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.000 and I enjoyed that good. 1133 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.039 Okay, well we're going to go to a clip piece 1134 01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:40.079 of music. This is your choice. Yeah, don't do it 1135 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:43.520 without me, Bishop Paul S. Morton, and then we'll come 1136 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:48.279 back with some a next show that we did for 1137 01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:49.479 twenty twenty four. 1138 01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:11.399 What you're doing in this seaes, please don't do it 1139 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:20.760 without to do it without me? 1140 01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:23.840 You gotta tell it for yourself. 1141 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:28.880 What is. 1142 01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:39.600 You doing in this sea? Either? Please? 1143 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:45.319 Pase, don't do it without me. 1144 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:53.279 Don't sue it with how me come. 1145 01:11:53.159 --> 01:12:03.600 On here and said why you twoing him? 1146 01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:04.880 Listen? 1147 01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:07.800 Then please stop. 1148 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.479 You gotta tell him for yourself. You gotta tell them 1149 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:19.079 for yourself to come on, say and lost your. 1150 01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:32.439 Meaning little in the seas enough please start do it? 1151 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.479 No no, no, no, no no no. 1152 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.159 Somebody's a feeling tonight. 1153 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:46.359 If you mean again like you said, if you. 1154 01:12:51.840 --> 01:13:00.760 Listen, please stop no no no no, oh no mo. 1155 01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.520 How prestigious is more. 1156 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:09.439 In the healing, in the healing. 1157 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:18.479 I'm not killing in the sea, please come. 1158 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.760 No, no, no, I'm not. 1159 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:28.359 If Frony need a lasting, if I need a blood set, 1160 01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:41.199 he's your see let's see see in this scene and talk. 1161 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.119 Don't want you to do it and help me? 1162 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:49.600 I don't. 1163 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:51.760 You got a lot of people to take care of. 1164 01:13:55.119 --> 01:14:00.840 If you're less, see if your blessing see can I 1165 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:04.119 don't let you all please stop? 1166 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:08.079 No no no no. 1167 01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:13.760 Got to want you to stay lass and. 1168 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:15.159 Say that mes. 1169 01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:20.199 Let me hear you say. 1170 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:26.800 Please see the stuff. 1171 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.680 I know you got a lot of people to take 1172 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:36.680 care of the region. Need I want you to say 1173 01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:48.840 about the music? Now you gotta say, I can mean it. 1174 01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.039 If you want to be included, anybody want to be included, 1175 01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:57.079 Lord Jesus. 1176 01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:02.840 Please, whatever we do, don't do it without me as 1177 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:07.079 Bishop Paul S. Morton and as we are going into 1178 01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:11.039 our new year, definitely don't do don't do life without 1179 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.039 the Lord. While with us, what we're encouraging you if 1180 01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.359 you're just joining us. Hopefully you're not just joining us, 1181 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:20.039 but if you are, you're through into listen to talking Point. 1182 01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:21.920 We are. 1183 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:25.479 So our first show of the year and we are 1184 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.319 doing a bit of a recap and looking back at 1185 01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:29.920 some of the shows that we did in twenty twenty four. 1186 01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:34.239 We had some amazing guests on sort of looking through 1187 01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.520 our list and actually we probably could have done this 1188 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:38.800 show two or three times over with all the people 1189 01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:40.279 that we've had on the show, with the stories that 1190 01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:45.880 we've heard. But yeah, so we've talked a little bit 1191 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:48.239 about our first show that we did, of the series 1192 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.359 that we did of the year with Alison and Wookoo 1193 01:15:50.479 --> 01:16:00.279 breaking down strongholds. Then we've just been looking at seasoned dialogue. Yeah, 1194 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.399 we've had some we've had some good shows, some thinking back, 1195 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.119 but we want to hear from you. So we've had 1196 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:07.439 a couple of there's several ways that you can get 1197 01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:09.359 in contact with us. We really want to try and 1198 01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:12.439 get some kind of more engagement from our listeners, So 1199 01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:16.199 you can email us studio Testadventist Radio dot London. You 1200 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:20.720 can text us at eight triple to eight right hope 1201 01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.079 and then your message we can send us a WhatsApp 1202 01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:27.119 message zero seven four five nine six four two eight 1203 01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:31.279 nine eights and then we've introduced another method as well 1204 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.079 send it over to you on this one. 1205 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.640 Yeah, So I've just thought that maybe for our listeners 1206 01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:42.560 could respond anonymously that might spread them on. Not necessarily 1207 01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:46.800 in this case, but we will look to introduce slide 1208 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.319 a bit more often in our conversations. But today the 1209 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.520 questions on the floor are what would you like to 1210 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:58.880 hear more of on Talking Point? And of course which 1211 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:03.920 was your favorite program of twenty twenty four. Slider is 1212 01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:08.199 s l I d O dot com. If you just 1213 01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:12.119 log on there or go on to that website and 1214 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:16.279 it willapse you for a participation called which is two 1215 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:20.079 six nine seven nine four two, and that will send 1216 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:25.319 you anonymously across to ourselves two six nine seven nine 1217 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.840 four to what would you like to hear more of 1218 01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:32.239 on Talking Point? I personally would like to hear more 1219 01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:37.560 from you? And also what or which was your favorite 1220 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:40.000 program of twenty twenty four? 1221 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:43.720 Cool, so lots of different ways to get in contact 1222 01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.640 with us. We want to hear from you, so do 1223 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.880 share your thoughts in your comments. One of the things 1224 01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.720 that we throughout this year we've heard from. We've had 1225 01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:55.319 lots of really good guests on there, but we've heard 1226 01:17:55.359 --> 01:18:00.760 some really personal stories, you know, various, So we're gonna 1227 01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:04.840 hear a couple of things now, although there was one 1228 01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.439 that we didn't actually we haven't put this in, but 1229 01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:10.720 again we've heard some one of one that was really 1230 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:19.239 touching with We had a lady called Serena on Serena 1231 01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.319 Pascal and sharing with us the loss of her son, 1232 01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:25.760 so living with loss of parents story, which is a 1233 01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:28.680 really touching one. Again, she's someone who does a lot 1234 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.920 and has shared her journey of her son who had 1235 01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:36.560 a disability, had quite of rare condition and you know, 1236 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:39.600 he did quite some amazing things in you know, his 1237 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:43.640 short lifetime. But she really bravely shared her story with us. 1238 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:48.399 And we also had Cornerston counseling on as well, you know, 1239 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.640 sharing their insights on how to cope with a tragic 1240 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.239 loss like this. So yeah, throughout this year we have 1241 01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:59.319 shared we've heard from some really personal stories which have 1242 01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:04.119 been incredibly touching and we definitely appreciate all those contributions, 1243 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.640 which brings me on to again, I talk about personal stories, 1244 01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:10.640 a topic that's did in my heart because I'm on 1245 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:16.960 that journey. We did a show for World Alzheimer's Day. Now, 1246 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:18.720 if any of you have listened or you know me, 1247 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.159 you may be aware that my mum is living with Alzheimer's. 1248 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:25.159 And actually I want to shouts out to my mum 1249 01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:28.840 as well, because's actually her birthday to day she has 1250 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.640 entered twenty twenty five. She's reached seventy seven years old. 1251 01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:38.640 And despite yes, and despite her challenges, you know, and 1252 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:42.319 living with an illness that is just devastating, you know, 1253 01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:44.840 she does really well. I realize that, you know, I 1254 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.279 take it everywhere with her with b you know, and 1255 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.640 I'm sure and I know that's maybe challenging for her 1256 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:53.119 as well. But again, I talked a little bit about 1257 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.760 memories and trying to make memories for her because you know, 1258 01:19:55.920 --> 01:20:00.840 sadly those are going but you know, Alzheimer's And there's 1259 01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:04.800 been a lot about dementia as an umbrella term in 1260 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:08.239 the media. Most recently it seems to be a bit 1261 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:10.920 of a I think it's always been there, but it 1262 01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:12.159 seems to be more. I don't if you call it 1263 01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:16.600 an epidemic, but it is kind of almost like, you know, 1264 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.640 a top disease illness that seems to be hitting the nation. 1265 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:25.640 Lots of celebrities have been talking about it. You know, 1266 01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.079 a lot of people that I speak to have their 1267 01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:31.560 own stories of loved ones that are, you know, living 1268 01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:35.479 with the disease. So we did some We did a show. 1269 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.600 We've done a couple of shows I'm looking at dementia. 1270 01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.159 I mean, this year we had on and three guests 1271 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:45.640 for this show, a doctor who's done some research, another 1272 01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:50.399 guest who has set up a support group, and then 1273 01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:54.960 also I interviewed the manager of a day center that 1274 01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:57.000 my mum goes to, which it has been a real godsend. 1275 01:20:57.119 --> 01:21:01.800 I appreciate that I've been very blessed to have found 1276 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:05.279 good support and good resources that can support us on 1277 01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.800 this journey. So we're going to talk to a couple 1278 01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:13.520 of clips now. So the first one is from Doctrimonia 1279 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:18.399 Gaspar who is a general practitioner but has a definite 1280 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:26.279 interest in dementia and dementia especially within the black community, 1281 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.199 and she's done some research around that as well. So 1282 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.000 I'm gonna have a little listen to her viewpoints and 1283 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.680 then a little bit more about her research and then 1284 01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:37.439 speak to the others as well. So let's have a 1285 01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:38.119 quick listen. 1286 01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:44.279 So again, thank you for joining us this evening. 1287 01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:46.640 So tell us a little bit about yourself and what 1288 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.720 you do and how yeah, and how we've kind of 1289 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:50.760 connected here today. 1290 01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:55.000 Do you blame everyone? Thank you so much, Angela, it's 1291 01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:57.720 a real honor to be here. Thank you, Xenia, Thank 1292 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:04.479 you Pedro. My journe with dementia wasn't always very clear cut. 1293 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:08.760 I'm of Nigerian heritage, so we've got the African and 1294 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:13.800 we've got the Caribbean well represented. And I used to 1295 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.760 spend a lot of time with my grandmother, and now 1296 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:21.279 I know she had dementia, But then all I knew 1297 01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:24.880 was that it was old age. And when I moved 1298 01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.520 to the UK, I wanted to work with old people 1299 01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:32.119 because of the relationship with my grandmother, and I met 1300 01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:33.279 lots of old people. 1301 01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:35.039 They were just like my grandma. 1302 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:38.479 And I got to find out that it wasn't old age, 1303 01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:42.720 it was an illness, dementia, and that's when I started 1304 01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:47.199 really getting involved in it. I'm a general practitioner by 1305 01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:52.800 profession my day job, but every minute I have outside that, 1306 01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:59.920 I'm spent advocating and trying to educate and enlighten people 1307 01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:07.520 on dementia, primarily in the Afro Caribbean community, but everywhere 1308 01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:12.399 else as well. I've just completed a degree with the 1309 01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:17.880 University of London, Queen Mary and it's global public health, 1310 01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:24.239 but we have to do issis on something close to 1311 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:28.640 our hearts. And I looked at dementia, which happens to 1312 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:33.800 be the twenty first century public health crisis. 1313 01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.079 At the moment globally. 1314 01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:37.800 So it's not just in the UK, it's not just 1315 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:42.319 in the Black African community, it's everywhere. And thank you 1316 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.800 so much for highlighting it. And I'm really honored to 1317 01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:46.279 be here. 1318 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.479 Oh, thank you, thank you so much for joining us. 1319 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:51.520 And yeah, it's going to be great to kind of 1320 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:54.640 get the different sides to as you said, is a 1321 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:59.159 kind of global crisis. So with that in mind, actually, Ammonia, 1322 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:00.560 could you just kind of it's a bit of a 1323 01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:05.600 background about dimension Alzheimer's for any of our listeners who 1324 01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:07.880 may not necessarily be familiar. I think many of us 1325 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:11.800 know the words and have heard of the terms, but 1326 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:13.800 I think there's probably and I guess maybe to kind 1327 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:17.439 of a bit of misconceptions at times as well. And 1328 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.760 I know dementia is becoming much more of a topic 1329 01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:24.079 that's talked about. We're hearing about, you know, well known 1330 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:27.680 celebrities and sort of public people in the public eye 1331 01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.560 who have you know, disclosed that they have been had 1332 01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.119 they've had a diagnosis. But for any of our listeners 1333 01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:36.920 who don't know what this is about, yeah, give us 1334 01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:38.640 a bit of a background. And also, Michelle, if you've 1335 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.520 got any bits to add in, please do as well. 1336 01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:48.680 Definitely, dementia is an umbrella term, so it's like saying 1337 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:51.560 you have a fever. It could be an ear infection, 1338 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:53.880 it could be a throat infection, it could be a 1339 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:58.039 urine infection, it could be meningitis, anything, and that's what 1340 01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:03.279 dementia is. The there's more than two hundred type subtypes 1341 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:07.119 of dementia, but we hear about the commonest one, which 1342 01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:11.319 is Alzheimer's, and about sixty to eighty percent of the 1343 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:17.239 population globally have Alzheimer's, but in the black community, the 1344 01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:21.800 more prevalent type of dementia is vascular dementia. And there 1345 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:26.800 are two completely separate different kinds, So we use dementia 1346 01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:31.840 and Alzheimer's interchangeably. But it's important to actually know what 1347 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:36.880 the diagnosis that one has or our loved ones have, 1348 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:41.479 And in my case, my family history was one of 1349 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:48.680 vascular dementia, which is very closely related to blood pressure, diabetes, 1350 01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.079 heart disease, that kind of thing as a different from 1351 01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:58.479 Alzheimer's dementia, where there's lots of proteins that are fighting 1352 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:01.520 for space in the brain type of thing. Yeah, So 1353 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:07.039 in a nutshell, that's dementia. It's a medical condition, it's 1354 01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:12.000 an illness. Children can get dementia, adults can get dementia, 1355 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:15.760 old age can get dementia. It can come from disease, 1356 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:19.640 it can come from trauma. So people who have head injury, 1357 01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:24.640 either a major impact head injury or repeated bits of 1358 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.479 head injury, rugby players that kind of thing, they can 1359 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.760 all get dementia. So it's a very broad umbrella term 1360 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:34.840 for lots of different conditions. 1361 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.720 My research was looking at, I. 1362 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:43.199 Suppose a little bit of a contentious area, and I 1363 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:48.920 was looking specifically at Black Africans in the UK, because. 1364 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:53.760 As we all know, there's a big umbrella label. 1365 01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:54.880 Just like dementia. 1366 01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.279 We have a big umbrella label of Bain, Bame and 1367 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.840 under bane. You've got the Caribbeans, you've got the Africans, 1368 01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:07.119 you've got the Sri Lankans, you've got the Irish, you've 1369 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:10.279 got the Japanese, you've got the Chinese, and we're all 1370 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:14.760 supposed to be one homogenous group. I'm not saying Black 1371 01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:18.640 Africa is one homogenous group, but it kind of narrows 1372 01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:23.159 it down a little bit. I think the cultural aspect 1373 01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:27.159 is so important, you know, like Michelle said, you cannot 1374 01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:29.600 assess somebody out of. 1375 01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:33.319 Their culture because it's not going to make sense to them. 1376 01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:37.159 I know one of my participants, her mother had a 1377 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:41.439 kind of dementia which is called fronto temporal dementia, and 1378 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.640 that tends to be quite common in the younger age 1379 01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:49.319 group that's less than sixty five. And they were asking 1380 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:54.800 her questions about who's the Queen of England, and she was, 1381 01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:57.399 what's my business with the Queen of England. You know, 1382 01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.760 it doesn't mean that she has dementia because she doesn't know. 1383 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.560 We know that a lot of times is the short 1384 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:08.079 term memory that goes first and the longer term memory 1385 01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:13.359 is there so these people regress, So you know, I 1386 01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:16.399 have to put it in context of the culture. Maybe 1387 01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:19.119 at that stage it would have been useful to ask 1388 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.680 us something related to her culture in the past, and 1389 01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:28.199 you could assess a little bit more strategically that way. 1390 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:32.800 But I was looking at caregivers of people with dementia 1391 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.920 because they've got triple whammy, quadruple whammy, the black ethnicity, 1392 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:44.760 their caregivers, and the fact that their black ethnicity, their 1393 01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:51.560 migrants in the ukmination second generation migrants, And I was 1394 01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:54.960 coming at it from the point of intersectionality. And what 1395 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:58.760 that is is the challenges that they face is not 1396 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:02.359 because they're black. Well, it's not because they're females, and 1397 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:06.399 it's not because they're migrants. It's a combination of everything. 1398 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:11.079 There lots of things chipping away at them and they 1399 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:14.399 become unwell. They have to look after their loved ones, 1400 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.920 and it just dementia care givers. We know our second patients. 1401 01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:24.760 Everybody who has dementia, you've got another patient who's looking 1402 01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.840 after them. And if one in two people are going 1403 01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:31.439 to get this disease or be a care of by 1404 01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:34.680 twenty fifty, then it kind of works out that the 1405 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:37.840 entire population is going to be in trouble one way 1406 01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.800 or the other. And what did I find that, Yes, 1407 01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:45.439 we need to look at individuals in the context of 1408 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.439 their culture, in the context of their background, which is 1409 01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:53.640 a very, very big ask for the government, but at 1410 01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.680 least we know and then we can start chipping at 1411 01:29:56.760 --> 01:30:01.199 it bit by bits in different ways like this forum 1412 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:01.640 as well. 1413 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:07.640 So there we heard from doctor Ammonia Gasper as a 1414 01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:12.319 general practitioner and has done some research into dementias, especially 1415 01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:17.079 with the afric Caribbean community. We also spoke to Michelle 1416 01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:21.880 Guthrie who set up the nia coma Support Center support group, 1417 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:28.199 i should say, and spoke to Karen Jackson who runs 1418 01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:32.399 the Frogmore Wellbeing center that my mum goes to. So 1419 01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.279 again it's a personal story and I've really appreciated the 1420 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:39.920 conversation learnt a lot. You know, every day is a 1421 01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.479 different day. Any kind of advice and support you can 1422 01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:45.920 get has always been definitely useful. And again we will 1423 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:48.920 probably cover more about dementia because as she used as 1424 01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.319 Ammonia has said, you know, it seems to be a 1425 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:55.760 global crisis that we're going through and with dementias, So again, 1426 01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:59.159 definitely and where to listen if you can listen back 1427 01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.920 to that on spreading her another personal story that we 1428 01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.319 heard from and again there's different and one of the 1429 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.640 things that we do on Talking Point is highlight different 1430 01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:15.600 awareness days and breast cancer is I'm trying to remember 1431 01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.199 when the date is actually, but that's definitely. 1432 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:21.439 Something around there. 1433 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:25.039 Yeah, so I'm gonna have have to send you up 1434 01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:27.720 because this is one of if we do a look, 1435 01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:29.760 we source our own guests, and we're always you know, 1436 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:31.760 different people where it's our friends or people that we 1437 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:34.239 meet from day to day. But this was a contact 1438 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:36.520 that you had and a friend of yours who kindly 1439 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:40.239 and bravely shared her story as well. Any thoughts on 1440 01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:40.720 that's in you. 1441 01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:46.000 Yeah, thank you first of all to love Vetter for 1442 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.520 sharing her story, as you said, quite bravely and very 1443 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:54.720 very last minute and a very last minute request, like 1444 01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:59.479 five minutes before. So bless her. When she listened back, 1445 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.840 she was like, oh that I talked to slower, I'm like, listen, 1446 01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:05.920 I'm going to let the listeners know that you were 1447 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.000 not prepared it anyway, And that was so brave because 1448 01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:12.520 even I I mean, if I haven't got four months notice, 1449 01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:16.000 I'm not really prepared and comfortable. So it was really 1450 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.279 really brave of her. And I'm thankful because I'm sure 1451 01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:21.039 she shared nuggets within there that people were able to 1452 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.800 glean from. And also to thank Nicole Nicole Chen, who 1453 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:31.840 is a breast cancer advocate champion as she works with 1454 01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.479 women across the globe to help them better prepare and 1455 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:40.319 their families and their communities for the journey that is 1456 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:45.520 breast cancer and really powerful, powerful woman. You can tell 1457 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:48.359 from when she speaks the moment she speaks that she's 1458 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:53.399 you know, very aware, very informed, and very passionate about 1459 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.520 what she does. So yeah, let's listen to I'm not 1460 01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:59.560 sure what I even coelected at this point now, but 1461 01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:03.640 let's listen to what she had to say, or Lovetta 1462 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:08.039 had to say. Any surprise is anything that you thought 1463 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:11.239 you'd notice but it didn't happen as you thought it would. 1464 01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:14.000 I mean, I know, when we talked cancer, we talked, 1465 01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:18.000 you know, hear loss, so we talk about being weak. 1466 01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.920 And and warn and not being able to eat. 1467 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.199 And all that kind of stuff. Did you see that 1468 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:26.000 did you not? Did that surprise you? 1469 01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:26.920 What? 1470 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:27.600 What's what? 1471 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:27.960 What? 1472 01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.479 What are some of the things that you didn't expect 1473 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:32.520 to see that you saw, or vice versa. 1474 01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:41.239 What I didn't expect. Let me do it. 1475 01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:43.920 Can I just say before you continue, love that I 1476 01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:46.039 just want to let our listeners know that you very 1477 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.640 much accepted the invitation last minute to come on here, 1478 01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:53.079 and I thought, that's so great. Thank you, very very 1479 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.199 very much. I know we we didn't have any pre conversations. 1480 01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:58.560 You didn't have any free you know, any warning or 1481 01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:01.680 anything like that. So you come on and I've just decided, 1482 01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:03.760 you know what, you're willing to talk about this and 1483 01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:06.319 hopefully encourage someone. So I want to make sure that 1484 01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:09.000 the listeners understand where you come from here. And I 1485 01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:11.279 want to thank you again for willing. 1486 01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:15.119 Your phone call. I thought it was like a catch 1487 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:17.000 up phone call, but it was an invitation phone call. 1488 01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:20.039 It was an invitation about five minutes ago. But yes, anyway, 1489 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:24.000 tell me what what surprised you about. 1490 01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:31.239 I did get hair loss. Actually I went down to 1491 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:41.039 what my brother called baby Ostrich here and yes, he 1492 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.880 actually he actually helped me. I tried to keep it 1493 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:48.920 as long as possible, but one day I was brushing it, 1494 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.840 not even roughly, just gently, and it was coming out 1495 01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:53.640 in clubs. So I was like, Okay, it's time to go. 1496 01:34:54.680 --> 01:35:02.319 But yeah, my she's not. She was oncologist. She was 1497 01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:03.600 the break count of specialist. 1498 01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:04.920 She was. 1499 01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:07.560 She was very much when I went into my concert, 1500 01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:09.359 she will say, you know you will you lose your 1501 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:12.359 hair if you do get chemo. And I was like, okay, 1502 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:15.239 that's fine. And she she was I think she was 1503 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:20.000 surprised at the the level of the commences which I accepted. 1504 01:35:20.079 --> 01:35:21.800 Here lost And I was like, because I told her, no, 1505 01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:24.079 I look, I look great in wigs. I have a 1506 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:25.920 whole week collection. Don't worry about that. 1507 01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:29.319 So that was that. 1508 01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:33.199 But the I think one of the unexpected things was 1509 01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:39.800 I got insomnia so I could go. It was like 1510 01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:44.439 the whole days will I sleep maybe one or two hours? 1511 01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:51.239 So I don't really hear that, No, you. 1512 01:35:51.359 --> 01:35:56.840 Hear more, yeah, the but yeah I got but sometimes 1513 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:03.760 the it'll be fire my mama, who will go to 1514 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:09.279 sleep run about nine, But I'll be up until it's 1515 01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:12.840 light again the next morning. So until the next morning 1516 01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.920 and maybe then sleep with an hour and then get 1517 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.000 up again. Were you worried? 1518 01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:18.439 Was that? 1519 01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:20.199 Was that what it was? 1520 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:22.000 It's your. 1521 01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.159 Do you think that's what it was? 1522 01:36:26.319 --> 01:36:27.159 So I did? 1523 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:30.680 I did I did, you know, I did. 1524 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:34.039 Talk to my ecologists about that. Who who is a 1525 01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:36.840 very nice man. He was doctor MacLeod. 1526 01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:37.920 He was so good. 1527 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.279 He's very supportive as well. And one of the first 1528 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:43.039 things he asked when we came in me and my 1529 01:36:43.119 --> 01:36:47.319 mom was do we believe in God? So my mom 1530 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:49.600 was like, no, this is the doctor to half. Yes, 1531 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:56.680 you want to have but yeah, and so he said, 1532 01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:59.800 as long as you're you know, you don't feel any 1533 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:04.920 excessive tiredness after that, or and you're not you yourself 1534 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:08.560 are not worried about that, and you're getting at least 1535 01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:12.760 some sleep. It's you said, it's it's a bit normal 1536 01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:16.239 because so he said some yes, some people do have it. 1537 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.640 Now I'm back, I will sleep at nine. My body 1538 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:26.399 is like nope. Now nine o'clock comes, I'm like, time 1539 01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:26.960 to go to bed. 1540 01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:30.199 Okay, we'll make sure that you're you're ready for bed soon. 1541 01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:33.920 Yeah. 1542 01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:38.119 Yeah, And and I think that's was the only thing 1543 01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:45.079 was yeah, insomnia. And it wasn't a lack of appetite. 1544 01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:51.680 But I would eat and get tired or let me 1545 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:55.439 halfway through a meal and my body is like, you 1546 01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:56.119 have to rest. 1547 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.399 H Yeah, I've heard of that. As well. 1548 01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:03.720 Yeah, h yeah, that was surprising to me. I was like, oh, 1549 01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:07.439 I'm not going to take two or fifty in forms 1550 01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:10.239 of something and then look, sorry, I have to wait 1551 01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:14.760 a bit or have a map before I have to 1552 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.239 eat again. So yeah, that was that was the only 1553 01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:18.680 thing that was unexpected. 1554 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:22.600 I would say, what advice would you give would you 1555 01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:27.920 give someone who is going through what you've been through 1556 01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:32.560 and what you are going through the journey of breast cancer. 1557 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:41.479 The only advice I would say is, especially if you're 1558 01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:50.199 a person who has strong faith heat that mhm, heat 1559 01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:57.920 that even when you have family around, sometimes you know, 1560 01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:01.119 they can be overwhelming and they don't mean to be, 1561 01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:04.800 but sometimes you just want to go off into a 1562 01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:08.279 room or have some time to yourself, you know, some 1563 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:12.880 quiet time. And faith is a big part of that. 1564 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:13.199 You know. 1565 01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:18.199 What I have done, what I've started to do since 1566 01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:23.079 years ago, was talk to God just as if he 1567 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:24.800 was right there in the room sitting next to me, 1568 01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:29.079 m and you know, just you know, tell him about 1569 01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:36.560 my day or even if you're complain Yeah, just talk 1570 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:39.000 as if you know you have your best friend there, 1571 01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:42.439 how you would talk to your best friend and over 1572 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:45.399 the phone, an in person That's how I started to 1573 01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:51.199 talk to God and I found that helped me so much. 1574 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:57.359 Another thing is accept accept help. 1575 01:39:59.079 --> 01:39:59.319 Yeah. 1576 01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:03.279 You may think, you know, you don't want to inconvenience anybody, 1577 01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.520 or you know you're a bit shy about it, but 1578 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:11.000 your friends and your family are there to support you 1579 01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:13.840 and to help you out in whatever way they can, 1580 01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:18.000 and one of those is to help you to accept it. 1581 01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:21.479 You know you can, you can tell them now, of 1582 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.920 course you know, or you know it's too much. But 1583 01:40:25.359 --> 01:40:30.239 once the help is offered or even given, accept it. 1584 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:37.239 Another thing is laugh as often as you can. Like 1585 01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:43.159 Nicole said, laugh even if you have to find a 1586 01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:46.319 funny video on YouTube or wherever. 1587 01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:48.800 To start it. 1588 01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.279 You just laugh. This is one of the big things 1589 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:56.079 me and my family do. We find a funny video, 1590 01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:58.840 we share it, We laugh, We laugh as much as possible, 1591 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.399 and that has, you know, you relieve stress or relieves 1592 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:11.159 some of the pent up anxiety you may have, and 1593 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:13.680 it helps you, you know, for your day to day. 1594 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:19.600 Yeah, yeah, love it, And never said do you have 1595 01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:20.840 I love. 1596 01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:23.199 I love what you're saying in terms of speaking to 1597 01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:26.039 God as if he's sitting right next to you. And 1598 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.239 I know I mentioned before that, there are many, you know, 1599 01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:31.520 texts in God's where that are there for encouragement. Do 1600 01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:35.119 you have a particular favorite Bible text or do you 1601 01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:37.680 have a song or anything that you kind of have 1602 01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:39.159 found that you kind of go to. 1603 01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:43.479 Is your go to form of support or anything. 1604 01:41:46.039 --> 01:41:46.319 I have? 1605 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:51.359 I have leny, but one of my one of the 1606 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.119 ones is trust in the Lord with all your heart 1607 01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.319 and lean on your own understanding and then all your 1608 01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:02.000 ways and he will direct your path. 1609 01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:09.680 Okay, So that was Levetta sharing her story and her 1610 01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:13.640 experience of deal with breast cancer, and as Zedi has said, 1611 01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:15.439 it was kind of a sort of the last but 1612 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:17.880 requests as it were, for us to come on and 1613 01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:22.319 share her experience, which we are ever so grateful and 1614 01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:24.319 similarly with all our guests that we've had on who've 1615 01:42:24.359 --> 01:42:28.399 shared really personal stories and their experience, it's been you know, 1616 01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:32.239 really touching, really grateful to hear. And again, if you 1617 01:42:32.359 --> 01:42:35.199 would like to come on and talk about your experience, 1618 01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:37.600 Like I said, we do highlight lots of awareness days. 1619 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:41.119 There are days for most things, but we definitely want 1620 01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:46.199 to talk about you know, specific illnesses, diseases, conditions and 1621 01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:50.079 experiences that people are going through because somewhere the advice 1622 01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:52.840 and information that we're hearing can maybe help somebody who 1623 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.159 is listening. So sonya any other a couple more that 1624 01:42:57.199 --> 01:43:00.399 we were going to be run as sadly running out time, 1625 01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:03.960 we wanted to talk about a couple of folk. Yeah. No, again, 1626 01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:06.039 every show that we do is a part there's going 1627 01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:10.000 to be a part two, part three. But another guest 1628 01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:12.720 that we had on something that again that you had 1629 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:17.720 met on them. Did you make them through social media? 1630 01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:21.319 Yes? 1631 01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:27.079 No, no, no, I met him an event, but yes, 1632 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:29.199 we were going to share a bit of his his 1633 01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:36.039 program for his conversation with us, another really good program. 1634 01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:40.800 He is one of my countrymen, and sadly, you know, 1635 01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:45.039 the prophet has no honor, but the point is, and 1636 01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:47.880 the fact is he is a really dynamic speaker and 1637 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:53.600 really gave good insight to you know, his journey and 1638 01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:00.840 also what he proposes as a means to success too, 1639 01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:05.720 and obviously the Bible God is at the foundation of that. 1640 01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:07.800 So it was really really good to talk to him. 1641 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.119 I know he has a lot of plans for twenty 1642 01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:12.640 twenty five, some of us may or may some of 1643 01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:16.399 them may or may not involve us because we are 1644 01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:20.399 thinking of maybe doing a bit more programming on the road. 1645 01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:25.119 I know we've spoken many many times about our workshop 1646 01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:28.159 type setting where we can get our listeners in the 1647 01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:31.079 building and hear from them directly, and he wants to 1648 01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:35.640 do something similar. So God is doing something and we'll 1649 01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:39.119 just make sure that we are ready and available when 1650 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:41.680 he's ready to move. And I don't even want to 1651 01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:47.159 start sort of calling names and recounting shows because then 1652 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.000 I'm going to get in trouble. But I definitely have 1653 01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:54.079 to say thank you to Mark Semple and the entire 1654 01:44:54.199 --> 01:45:01.920 Cornerstone Tempe, who's the leader of normally orchestraate the programming, 1655 01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:04.319 and who who comes on for me and with me. 1656 01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:07.439 I need to shout out both of them and to 1657 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:11.039 say thank you for their continued partnership with a talking 1658 01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:13.560 point and Petro, I think this is a good point 1659 01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:15.439 for you to jump in and talk a little bit 1660 01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:18.760 about that one show that we purposely have not recapped 1661 01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:22.279 because we want to do a whole series around it 1662 01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:22.920 in the new year. 1663 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:27.560 Yeah, the men's program that we just did about a 1664 01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:28.000 month ago. 1665 01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:33.359 We had the different we had I forgot the doctor's name, 1666 01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:36.199 oh my goodness, but we had the doctor talk about 1667 01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:39.239 health that we had. We talked about mental health, we 1668 01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:44.479 talked about physical health, spiritual health, and we're going to 1669 01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:46.960 do a part two because we got into real good 1670 01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:50.279 discussion and as we found out, it can as you say, 1671 01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:52.439 we always say, we can't get it all at one show. 1672 01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:56.920 So in the new year, we will be Yeah, this year. 1673 01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:01.760 We will be setting up we'll be doing a short 1674 01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:05.239 series or programs on men's. 1675 01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:10.119 On the men and just focusing again on. 1676 01:46:12.159 --> 01:46:17.680 Mental health, spirituality, physicality from a biblical standpoint and from 1677 01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:21.720 a physical standpoint, and just from just health wise and 1678 01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:26.359 just how men can better navigate the world as we 1679 01:46:26.479 --> 01:46:27.880 see as the world is today. 1680 01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:28.720 Yeah. 1681 01:46:29.159 --> 01:46:31.439 Yeah, and the definitely was also we want to we 1682 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:31.800 want to. 1683 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:34.119 Sorry, there's a little bit of controversy where we were 1684 01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:36.319 talking about relationships as well, so oh. 1685 01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:39.800 Yeah, right downside, I forgot all about that. Yeah, that's 1686 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.439 so bad, since I do want on marriage, but yeah, 1687 01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:44.520 on relationships, I forgot all about that one. 1688 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:46.159 Sorry. That's that's also the. 1689 01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:49.279 Main part too, because that's well, I guess in my mind, 1690 01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:52.800 the relationship is a part of the mental aspect of 1691 01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:56.119 the male, because you know, if you're mentally healthy, then 1692 01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.560 your relationship is going to be healthy. So that's probably 1693 01:46:58.600 --> 01:46:59.960 what I was thinking in my head. So that's why 1694 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:02.800 I didn't think of it as relationship. But yes, also 1695 01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:07.199 in relationships single and married and divorced, we're going to 1696 01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:10.800 do like the whole aspect to the whole, encompass the whole, 1697 01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:14.479 you know, being of everything of being a male in 1698 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:15.239 today's world. 1699 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.159 I think we want to hopefully the gentlemen who were 1700 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:24.119 on for that show, and it turned out to be 1701 01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:29.359 a very first a controversial show or it certainly sparked 1702 01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:32.239 a lot of conversation and we were really really enjoying 1703 01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:35.600 that and to the point that we've decided we're going 1704 01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.359 to do an entire series, as pet just said, so February, 1705 01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:44.079 God's willing. I've already asked Mark Semple. I know, Angie, 1706 01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:47.479 you've already spoken to the guys about coming back. We 1707 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:50.760 want to do a full series in February about relationships, 1708 01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:54.479 and I'm looking forward to doing that entire month of 1709 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:59.039 February around that conversation and building it out in whichever 1710 01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:01.600 way the Lord leads. So yeah, stay tuned for that, 1711 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.319 and maybe we can have slighter in that conversation, and 1712 01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:08.840 therefore we would get a bit more commentary coming in 1713 01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:11.880 as well, so yeah, something to look forward to. We're 1714 01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:17.039 also looking to do a Bible based program or series 1715 01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:23.119 that's also in the works. I've also spoken to the 1716 01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:27.159 head of HR for Amazon Web Services. That was a 1717 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:30.600 really dynamic conversation that we want to bake into a 1718 01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:35.800 more broader series with some other HR professionals. So for 1719 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:40.960 those of you who have HR questions or our HR leaders, 1720 01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:45.640 then reach out and we can definitely continue the conversation 1721 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:48.680 with you. So yeah, that's some of the things that 1722 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:52.079 I know we're thinking of. Angie. 1723 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:57.680 Yeah, again looking at some people, you know, from the 1724 01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:01.439 creative art side of things as well, because ultimately what 1725 01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:03.760 we're you know, one of the things that we really 1726 01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:06.000 want to highlight is the ministry work that people do, 1727 01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:10.000 the way in which they can evangelize, the way they 1728 01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:11.960 can spread the gospel, and there's so many different ways 1729 01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:14.600 of doing that, and we've spoken to some people throughout 1730 01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:16.720 this year, this year, last year, and we want to 1731 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:19.199 do that again. You know, there are so many creative 1732 01:49:19.279 --> 01:49:23.199 ways to spread God's word and to bring people closer 1733 01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:26.479 to God. So we'll be speaking to several people who 1734 01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:30.359 utilize their skills and talents to do just that. And 1735 01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:32.439 again there'll also be time where we'll just be talking 1736 01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:38.199 about ourselves, sharing our favorite music and some of our 1737 01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.600 own kind of thoughts and experiences as well. We're on 1738 01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:47.119 this journey together. So yeah, we're looking forward to bringing 1739 01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:52.159 you another year of Talking Point and hopefully hearing from 1740 01:49:52.199 --> 01:49:55.000 you guys as well. And as on you did allude to, 1741 01:49:55.119 --> 01:49:59.119 hopefully we may do a few more talking parts talking 1742 01:49:59.199 --> 01:50:02.399 Points on the road code. So if you're interested in 1743 01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:06.000 us coming to your church to do a program, whether 1744 01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:09.079 it's a live show possibly or to record for a 1745 01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:13.279 future broadcast, then do get in contact with us. We'd 1746 01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:18.159 love to come and visit, and yeah, and sharing your 1747 01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:21.840 time as well. And as I said that, our time 1748 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:27.199 has fast gone first, yes disappeared. I've looked around at 1749 01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:29.720 the clock and I'm like, oh, it is that time already. 1750 01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:33.720 I want to thank you all for joining us for 1751 01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.800 talking Points and I very sort of whistle stop tour 1752 01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:40.319 of the last of twenty twenty four. There were so 1753 01:50:40.399 --> 01:50:43.960 many really good shows that we could have findited go ahead, ZNYA. 1754 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:46.560 Sorry I didn't want I didn't want you to close 1755 01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:49.399 out without sharing that we did have a few responses. Yes, 1756 01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:53.000 I don't thank you for that two six nine seven 1757 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:55.720 nine four. To keep the responses coming, and we'll share 1758 01:50:55.760 --> 01:51:00.279 that on the next program. But chicily pedro slip and 1759 01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:04.319 said he wants more marriage and men's programs. I said, 1760 01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:07.680 it's spread, droom. This is not the point of anonymous context, 1761 01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:09.720 but blessing. 1762 01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:10.600 I should put it in the wongs. 1763 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:13.600 But I was saying, I enjoyed the marriage and men's, 1764 01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:17.199 all right, and then if you know, it's the last 1765 01:51:17.239 --> 01:51:17.720 part I put. 1766 01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:20.319 I especially enjoyed the one we did with the. 1767 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:25.239 Lady who had the son with the health problems, and 1768 01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:26.640 I thought that was a really powerful one. 1769 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:31.079 You read the whole I was coming there. 1770 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:34.680 I was coming there. That was the one on grief 1771 01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.880 that we unfortunately didn't capture. But we're looking forward to 1772 01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:40.279 bringing her back on I think she's written a few 1773 01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:42.840 pages in a book or a book, or chapters in 1774 01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:46.239 a book, and we're looking to talk to her further. 1775 01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:50.720 Another person was jumped in and said, more joyful and 1776 01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:56.439 upbeat programming. And I get that because sometimes talking point 1777 01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.239 can be heavy, or most times it can be a 1778 01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:04.640 heavy discussion, a heavy conversation, and we acknowledge that because 1779 01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:08.399 we deal with heavy topics, heavy issues, but it's always 1780 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:12.479 good to interject some humor, some fun, some laughter, some songs, 1781 01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:15.479 and that's why we often do or we sometimes do 1782 01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:19.279 programs which are just laid back music what we enjoy 1783 01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:22.800 in and I think Angela you've mentioned that as well. 1784 01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:25.279 What we might use slider to do as well is 1785 01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:28.279 to allow you to feed questions that you just want 1786 01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:31.680 to tackle. We've always been talking about an anonymous, an 1787 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:36.680 agony ant aspect of the show where people can just 1788 01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.640 throw in their dilemmas and we can unpack them. So 1789 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:43.279 maybe that's an option where we can use Slider Fielder 1790 01:52:43.319 --> 01:52:45.920 to share what you might be dealing with, and we'll 1791 01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:50.760 maybe structure a program or a segment of each program 1792 01:52:51.319 --> 01:52:53.279 around that. So that's just a few of the things. 1793 01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:56.399 I'm going to be quiet now over to you again. 1794 01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:02.880 Sorry, fine, you know it's been our time has been 1795 01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:06.239 well spent, I believes, so I want to thank you 1796 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:10.199 for sticking with us throughout twenty twenty four, and I 1797 01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:12.479 hope you'll continue to listen in on twenty twenty five. 1798 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:15.439 As we said, we want to hear from you if 1799 01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:17.479 you want to be part of the show always welcome 1800 01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:21.279 to looking for guests, and that's often been a few 1801 01:53:21.319 --> 01:53:23.840 times where we've opened up our zoom calls. So if 1802 01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:26.119 you want to join in the conversation directly, you can 1803 01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:29.039 as well. So there's lots of different different options on 1804 01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:31.720 how you can get in, get involved, and get in 1805 01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:34.159 contact with us. So I want to thank you for 1806 01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:36.800 being with us this evening. I'm going to do my 1807 01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:39.039 usual guess what I'm going to ask you to do. 1808 01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:42.680 I know that's why last Sunday I saw you if 1809 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:44.720 we had the meeting, and they was like, you pray. 1810 01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:48.159 I've got to tell you that. 1811 01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:52.119 Yeah, I know that I'm adverse praying or anything like that, but. 1812 01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:57.800 I was like, yeah, yes, so yeah, mys do that. 1813 01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:01.640 Thank you. Okay, let's be us right and coughing. 1814 01:54:03.079 --> 01:54:03.560 Heaveny five. 1815 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:05.199 We want to thank you for bringing us to another 1816 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:08.479 talking point session with Thank you Lord for allowing us 1817 01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:11.319 to go back and reversit the past twenty twenty four 1818 01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:15.039 of all the wonderful guests and ideas that we had 1819 01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:17.960 during that time and discussions as we go forward to 1820 01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:20.800 twenty twenty five reacts Lord that you are guiders, leaders, 1821 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:23.039 and directors in the path that you want us to 1822 01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:27.279 go to give the programs and tackle the issues that 1823 01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.279 need to be tackled at that time, that we may 1824 01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:34.199 be able to encourage ourselves and encourage the folks listening 1825 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:36.840 in radio land, so that we can all be blessed 1826 01:54:36.880 --> 01:54:39.119 and learn something more about your love and your blessing 1827 01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:41.199 and how to be better Christians. 1828 01:54:41.239 --> 01:54:43.319 For you the beer. 1829 01:54:43.359 --> 01:54:45.079 First, about the rest of this week as we start 1830 01:54:45.119 --> 01:54:47.399 the new week and to the new year, and continue 1831 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:49.199 to bless us each and every day for the Uperni 1832 01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:49.760 your holy name. 1833 01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:51.840 Amen, Amen, Amen. 1834 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:57.800 So that's been talking point. Thank you for listening. Join 1835 01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:01.600 us again next week. Enjoy the rest of your weekend 1836 01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:04.600 and the rest of your week, and I pray that 1837 01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:07.319 twenty twenty five will be a blessed one for you all. 1838 01:55:08.239 --> 01:55:12.359 Any other final thoughts for you guys, just saying goodbye, have. 1839 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:12.920 A good week. 1840 01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:17.159 Okay, say goodbye, have a good week. Cool bash me 1841 01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:17.880 on the radio. 1842 01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:21.600 What you mean. 1843 01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:26.640 And with that, I'm gonna We're gonna end with Kurt. 1844 01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:30.600 Franklin abandoned you or something today, I. 1845 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:36.760 Mean abandoned left us. I mean, you know it's going 1846 01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:39.319 to be a brand to day. Kurt Franklin, have a 1847 01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:41.199 good evening, take care, bye. 1848 01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:42.399 Bye, take care bye bye. 1849 01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:47.000 Adventist Radio London inspiration 1850 01:55:47.279 --> 01:55:47.880 For the song