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Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with me today this
Speaker 3: good old guy Jay Gonzalez.
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure how to take the old guy
Speaker 4: part of it, because you know.
Speaker 3: I figured i'd be like, kind of like that misdirection.
Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, I thought you Actually we were.
Speaker 4: Just saying old and that, you know, we've been doing
Speaker 4: this together for a lot of years or old as
Speaker 4: in I'm a couple of months away from sixty six.
Speaker 2: Stop your ahead, Jacob good. Okay, yeah, good. I struggled
Speaker 2: to say good due, Yeah, old, I appreciate it's okay.
Speaker 2: Have you got ready here?
Speaker 3: So we got you know again, servants Rivera, Gazales, we
Speaker 3: were attorneys at law.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Good to see you Jay could be here, Good to
Speaker 3: be Good to see you in town, Ray, Good to
Speaker 3: see you in town. You know who is still in town?
Speaker 3: U A baseball? They never left. They kind of left
Speaker 3: their game here, didn't they. You know, I didn't watch
Speaker 3: any of it. I just kept in tune with the score.
Speaker 4: Holy crap, Well I saw it all and tell me
Speaker 4: and look, it was one of those games where it
Speaker 4: got away early. And look, you've played enough baseball. I
Speaker 4: played enough baseball.
Speaker 3: Ray.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you were a baseball player, but
Speaker 4: you games like this happened. You know, North Carolina isn't
Speaker 4: eighteen runs better than Arizona. You know, they may be better,
Speaker 4: but they're not eighteen runs better. And tomorrow could be
Speaker 4: a completely different day. We've seen that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: look Arizona just last week they beat They opened with
Speaker 4: cal Poly, beat him three to two, got two hits,
Speaker 4: didn't get a hit after the second any and then
Speaker 4: they scored eighteen and fourteen the next two games. So
Speaker 4: baseball is a game like that. It's not like basketball
Speaker 4: where if somebody's really better than you, they're just gonna
Speaker 4: beat you every time on a given day. Baseball can
Speaker 4: it just it flabbergasts you because a game like this
Speaker 4: can happen and you can come back and win the
Speaker 4: next day.
Speaker 2: And the good thing for them, it's a series, not
Speaker 2: a one gamer.
Speaker 4: Right, And you know, and you listen to what Chip
Speaker 4: Hale said, he said, just flush this one.
Speaker 2: It's over with you.
Speaker 4: You know that in the later stages of the game,
Speaker 4: he wasn't putting out guys from the bullpen who he's
Speaker 4: gonna need later this week, and those kinds of things
Speaker 4: when it comes up.
Speaker 2: I mean when it.
Speaker 4: Was when it was five to one, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: they can still win this game.
Speaker 2: Even when it was eight to one or eight to two.
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, they loaded the base once they said,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody gets a hit here. Now this it's
Speaker 4: a whole different thing. But it didn't happen. North Carolina
Speaker 4: State kept hitting the ball. Arizona guy, you know, got
Speaker 4: some good swings, just didn't get balls that hit the ground.
Speaker 4: And those those games happen. So you know, you just
Speaker 4: as you said, you flush it and you go on
Speaker 4: to the next one. You know that tomorrow can be
Speaker 4: a completely different day if your pitcher has a good game.
Speaker 4: What time tomorrow, same time? Okay, Yeah, maybe they were
Speaker 4: just wroking up at that. Who knows, you know, I
Speaker 4: mean Crampkowski came out and I could have hit him today,
Speaker 4: you know, I you know I couldn't. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I'd have taken him deep, but I could have
Speaker 4: hit him because he was Everything that he threw was up.
Speaker 4: He was throwing the ball where guys swing.
Speaker 5: The was and and for how good you n cee
Speaker 5: Like everybody talked about how good UNC's pitcher was, like
Speaker 5: the whole broadcast. I mean to get ten hits like
Speaker 5: they didn't like they didn't they didn't show up on
Speaker 5: the scoreboard, but you can tell that they were like
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say getting to him, but like.
Speaker 4: You know, they got their swings and they hit the
Speaker 4: ball hard a bunch of times. They had opportunities to
Speaker 4: score some runs and stay in the game and then
Speaker 4: got away, and so you put it away, you go
Speaker 4: to the next one. You know, my oplon was okay,
Speaker 4: Arizona's trying really hard to give North Carolina believe that
Speaker 4: they can do this to all the pictures and then
Speaker 4: you're gonna throw somebody at him. Tomorrow's gonna make them cry.
Speaker 4: So we'll see who said I get it was my
Speaker 4: piece of what did you become an optimist? Because see, Steve,
Speaker 4: baseball is like that.
Speaker 3: No I understand any given day, and if you play
Speaker 3: like crap one day doesn't mean you'll pay a crap
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you get beat by forty in basketball
Speaker 4: or football, you kind of think that that team can
Speaker 4: do that again to you in baseball, you think we
Speaker 4: should come back and do the same thing to them.
Speaker 2: If if the.
Speaker 4: Picture, if their picture has a bad day, our picture
Speaker 4: has a good day, we hit the ball. You know,
Speaker 4: any thinking happened. You know, I'll go back to my
Speaker 4: coaching days. In a matter of a couple of hours.
Speaker 4: Right at Saint Gregory, we beat the number one team
Speaker 4: in the state in the first game of a double header,
Speaker 4: and they run ruled us in the second game.
Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is, I dare I say it,
Speaker 3: North Carolina has momentum the way that I pull the
Speaker 3: c Yeah, I haven't had our times to say that.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see. Look, you go to the next
Speaker 2: game and you come out and have your choice right there.
Speaker 2: You have to regroup. Arizona has got good players.
Speaker 4: They've got good they They certainly showed that they could
Speaker 4: hit a good picture because they they banged him around
Speaker 4: a little bits, as Ray said it, you know, didn't
Speaker 4: show up in the scoreboard. They hit him hard a
Speaker 4: bunch of times. So you know they're gonna get They're
Speaker 4: gonna get theirs. And this guy was you know, this
Speaker 4: guy pitched well, he pitched well enough and put it
Speaker 4: this way. He had a five run, four run lead
Speaker 4: when he went out to the mound for the second Indian,
Speaker 4: and so he got comfortable and and a pitcher can
Speaker 4: be way better when they do that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, let's just see what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll check you back with you on one day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you'll see what the hell? Okay, no, no, that's cool. Hey,
Speaker 3: a good show today. We're gonna talk about the Belmont tomorrow.
Speaker 3: For tomorrows Belmont at Saratoga.
Speaker 2: You know he's got to step up.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: She gave us the winner last time and need another one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same winner for me, and.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go golfing, send a race home, catch the race,
Speaker 4: you know, throw something down and then watch the races.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, so I'm going the same thing, having
Speaker 3: her a three seventeen.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Belmont is gonna be run at Saratoga. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be a.
Speaker 2: Little different mile and a half race though.
Speaker 4: No, they moved it to a mile and a quarter. Okay,
Speaker 4: so it's not even a mile and a half race.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a big difference. That changes, right, changes
Speaker 4: things in terms of the type of horse that can
Speaker 4: win the race.
Speaker 3: Well, it's there's only seven or eight horses now, not
Speaker 3: like twenty when they were. But yes and no, but
Speaker 3: remember that Sovereigntine didn't run in the weakness. Uh, journalism did.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be wet. I hear it's gonna be wet,
Speaker 3: so like like the first scenario when sovereignty beat journalism.
Speaker 3: So we'll see to your point, yes, it's totally different,
Speaker 3: given that they had to go small long, and then
Speaker 3: they're gonna go short again.
Speaker 2: So we'll see sovereignty is actually in third.
Speaker 5: Horse Racing Nation dot com it's journalism besa sovereignty.
Speaker 3: And then that with the odds are just the pics
Speaker 3: uh the pics uh, because I'm sure it's it's journalism,
Speaker 3: journalism sovereignty and then.
Speaker 5: Besa no basis In second, what's the odds for to
Speaker 5: one and the sovereignty?
Speaker 2: Oh I think never mind.
Speaker 5: I think that's just like the number or like the
Speaker 5: way that they're running them, because it says sovereignty is
Speaker 5: two to one.
Speaker 2: Journalisms eight to five and then one.
Speaker 3: Right, so it's yeah, their third basis third Segntines two.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's base valley right right, Okay, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: Should be fun.
Speaker 3: And then at four fifteen we're gonna have Bruce Pasco.
Speaker 3: We've been trying to give him on. He's been real busy.
Speaker 3: He had something end today. But just the roster and
Speaker 3: how it looks. I had heard just today in fact,
Speaker 3: that because the president situation Jay and Ray is that
Speaker 3: maybe a player or two might have a tart time
Speaker 3: getting through.
Speaker 4: Wow, you never know, yeah, you know I read that,
Speaker 4: you know, uh, soccer fans, and maybe some players may
Speaker 4: have trouble getting getting here for the World Cup under
Speaker 4: what this damn country is doing.
Speaker 2: Don't get me.
Speaker 3: Started, you don't you you start yourself yourself because we
Speaker 3: won't go there. Yeah, so it's a crazy time. We'll
Speaker 3: see what he thinks about the possibility. Because there's so
Speaker 3: many on the team, right, so many international players, so
Speaker 3: it's freshmen to boot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it might it might come up even earlier
Speaker 5: because of the club World Cup that's happening, so like
Speaker 5: the Nation's World Cup, like the big one. Obviously that
Speaker 5: happens every four years, but the year before they do
Speaker 5: a Club World Cup where it's like all the big
Speaker 5: name teams like Madrid, I think Liverpool's coming, Chelsea, Barcelona,
Speaker 5: like they're all going to be in the US.
Speaker 2: But obviously they have a.
Speaker 5: Bunch of foreign players, so I could could run into
Speaker 5: that issue a little earlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll talk to him about that. The draft
Speaker 3: is warted two three weeks, we'll talk a little about
Speaker 3: that too, And where they're placed in the top twenty five.
Speaker 3: They're still in the top twenty five and a number
Speaker 3: of well all of them except that you vary from
Speaker 3: eleven to nineteen to fourteen, winevers and we talked about this.
Speaker 3: I had Pete on Pete Williams yesterday, Jay, and everyone's
Speaker 3: in love with this roster, right, Well, okay, you lose
Speaker 3: Bryant that you get these freshman that are fantastic and
Speaker 3: still Arizona's like ranked eighteen seventy good but some other teams. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't know, you don't, Yeah, you don't know right now,
Speaker 3: But don't get too carried away because it's always When
Speaker 3: was the last time we said Arizona was not going
Speaker 3: to be any good never, right, never. It's just the
Speaker 3: quality of how good they're going to be.
Speaker 2: More than ever. You don't know.
Speaker 4: Just like in football, you don't know until you get
Speaker 4: your guys on the court, because you have so many
Speaker 4: new guys. I mean, you may have a great roster
Speaker 4: and if they can't play together, well, what the hell
Speaker 4: good does it do?
Speaker 2: When did you know how good Arizona was this year? March? Yeah, March,
Speaker 2: late February.
Speaker 3: Early March, right, I mean because you wondered in December. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you didn't know what you had in January, and then
Speaker 3: they sorted kind of in March.
Speaker 2: You're thinking, oh.
Speaker 4: Wow, you know, and people assumed that because Tommy in
Speaker 4: his first three years, you know, his teams came out
Speaker 4: of the box, you know, kicking ass and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and he got them to meld, you know, during preseason
Speaker 4: and they were ready to go.
Speaker 2: This last year, it.
Speaker 4: Took a while. It took quite a while. I mean
Speaker 4: we were talking in December like are they even going
Speaker 4: to make the tournament? And so yeah, I mean anymore,
Speaker 4: you just don't know until you get these guys on
Speaker 4: the court. And it's new guys, a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: new guys every year. The only thing I'll say to that, though,
Speaker 4: is that when you've got a three year starter at
Speaker 4: point guards, that helps a lot, especially when you you know,
Speaker 4: that helps a lot to get these guys to play
Speaker 4: a little more cohesively, or it should, let me put
Speaker 4: it that way, it should. You would think it would
Speaker 4: when you've got a veteran guy in charge.
Speaker 2: On the court. Yep, everything just still place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'll say that that won't be a weakness
Speaker 4: because we didn't know about Jaydon Bradley when he got here, right,
Speaker 4: and then last year he was doing some better things,
Speaker 4: but still doing some things. And I know you in
Speaker 4: particular Downhill the whole I'm going in the lane and
Speaker 4: I'm not coming out kind of thing. But he's got
Speaker 4: ar under his belt, and now let's say he progresses
Speaker 4: even another year. Now he's in a position where he
Speaker 4: can make this team better just by being on the court.
Speaker 3: Right, And I think things will change because Caleb has
Speaker 3: gone the ball beheadled differently and and the freshmen are
Speaker 3: going to be fantastic. Walk is back in Creavus will
Speaker 3: see how healthy is. So you know what, Like I said,
Speaker 3: I've been doing this long time you've seen it a
Speaker 3: long time. When the last time you say they're not
Speaker 3: going to be in a good it's been forever. Well,
Speaker 3: you know you you mentioned a walker.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, I from from day one, I wasn't
Speaker 4: like sold on him as a I mean, he's a
Speaker 4: bruiser inside, gets a lot of rebounds, very physical, but
Speaker 4: he also you know, he needs he needs to score,
Speaker 4: score something, to throw the ball in there and score
Speaker 4: and two on two weeks ago. And again there's another
Speaker 4: guy who has a year here under his belt working
Speaker 4: with Jade and Bradley. Because when you're a center, when
Speaker 4: a center or a big guy and a point guard
Speaker 4: are in sync, you're a lot better.
Speaker 2: And that makes you wing guys a lot better.
Speaker 4: I mean that, you know, there's a whole idea of
Speaker 4: you know, point guards need to know how to get
Speaker 4: the ball inside. You need to know how to make
Speaker 4: a good a good entry pass, and those kinds of things.
Speaker 4: And when you've got two guys who've been doing it
Speaker 4: together for a while, that helps a lot too. So
Speaker 4: there's a lot of things like that that are aside
Speaker 4: from the new guys coming in that you think can
Speaker 4: help them be better.
Speaker 2: I like your Bruce's.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on all Yeah, we'll see how they all fit
Speaker 3: because they're going to have some people that will be
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Are you okay with time? Where you go take a break? Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do that.
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Speaker 14: Now went five to two oh four, one seventy four.
Speaker 15: All back together, man.
Speaker 2: Wekay wait a take you this is my show. Don't
Speaker 2: interrupt me. You're on the air now. Just blick up here.
Speaker 3: Hey wa, welcome back to I on the Ball. I'm Steve,
Speaker 3: You're Jay and we now we got d back in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys. Bye, what's up a match?
Speaker 15: How are you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Okay, we're good, you know good. Let me ask you
Speaker 4: a question. When when are they running at Delmar?
Speaker 16: When do they run Dalmar?
Speaker 15: Opening day is July I'm not gonna pull my calendar.
Speaker 15: July eighteenth, so that's Friday, and then they're.
Speaker 16: Gonna run until September.
Speaker 15: September seventh will be closing day. It's Grandparents' Day is
Speaker 15: closing day.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I need you to send a nice letter of invitation
Speaker 4: to my wife because we're gonna be there in like
Speaker 4: the first the second weekend of August. I don't know
Speaker 4: if she'll she'll put up with me going to the
Speaker 4: horse races, but it would be fun.
Speaker 15: Well, you let me know when you want to go,
Speaker 15: and I will make sure you have tickets.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, free stuff, all right, yeah, okay, all right?
Speaker 16: What happens when you know somebody.
Speaker 2: Here exactly exactly? Okay, all right, we can move on this.
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, So you're working the you're working the track
Speaker 3: this weekend and Satday though no I'm not.
Speaker 15: I'm actually going to be taking some vacation time and
Speaker 15: going back up to Washington.
Speaker 16: This is really exciting.
Speaker 15: So I get to actually watch the.
Speaker 16: Belmont with my dad, so we.
Speaker 17: Won't be doing phone tag before.
Speaker 3: The race and after the Yeah nice nice, okay, cool
Speaker 3: cool cool. So now now let's get to the bill
Speaker 3: nod there's anything today? Is there anything going on today?
Speaker 3: I didn't pay attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 15: So the Saratoga Belmont Week racing festival has been going
Speaker 15: on since Wednesday. The Acorn ran just about fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 15: We did see a seven to one upset over the one.
Speaker 16: To four favorite.
Speaker 15: The favorite was Good Cheer, who was your Kentucky Oaks winner.
Speaker 15: She went off at about one to four odds. The
Speaker 15: track right now is extremely sloppy. It is a steeled track.
Speaker 15: There has been quite a bit of weather coming in
Speaker 15: today and so that has definitely affected how I look
Speaker 15: at the races to tomorrow because this track does not
Speaker 15: drain like Churchill does. Churchill is a very standy track,
Speaker 15: so the base allows for a lot of water to
Speaker 15: be able to be taken in and then drain away
Speaker 15: within a day. Sarah Tooga is not really built like that.
Speaker 15: So if it's super sloppy, money, it's going to affect
Speaker 15: how the horses run tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No that I knew it was going to be wet,
Speaker 3: because I've been studying it myself, and we know how
Speaker 3: it went the first time in a ready muddy situation,
Speaker 3: in a Churchill right right where I couldn't hold on
Speaker 3: against a sovereignty. But so what does this mean if
Speaker 3: it's still going to be sloppy.
Speaker 15: So it means that horses that are breaking on the
Speaker 15: lead and they're getting comfortable leads, the speed is holding.
Speaker 15: It's it was a very speed bias track last year.
Speaker 15: We saw that in last year's Belmont when Dorknock went
Speaker 15: gate to wire and sire Leone struggled to close for third.
Speaker 15: We saw it again at the Acorn Lacara, who was
Speaker 15: the winner. She ran nice in the Kentucky Oaks, did
Speaker 15: not take to the Churchill track sloppy that day. She
Speaker 15: did seem to take to the Saratoga sloppy sealed track today,
Speaker 15: So it could be a thing. If journalism didn't particularly.
Speaker 17: Like churchill sloppy track, he may like.
Speaker 15: The Saratoga sloppy track.
Speaker 16: I did get to hear.
Speaker 15: An interview from Michael McCarthy earlier today with one of
Speaker 15: the reporters up at Fox and he said, Journalism has
Speaker 15: been training very well. He's been eating up and you've
Speaker 15: had kind of this kind of re energized energy about
Speaker 15: him in the morning.
Speaker 16: He's training really well, and I've.
Speaker 15: Watched him galloping and he looks like he is on something.
Speaker 15: He's not for drug testing purposes, he's not, but he
Speaker 15: looks just like he did before the breaknance. He looks
Speaker 15: like he's in really good form. You know, it's it's
Speaker 15: going to be a matter of I think pace makes
Speaker 15: the race.
Speaker 16: In this case.
Speaker 15: We do have a little bit more speed in here
Speaker 15: with the ad of Crudo the five who's the other
Speaker 15: Todd Pletcher runner in here. But if we're talking speed
Speaker 15: on the front end, this is Rodriguez's race to lose.
Speaker 15: Like if he's going to break on the front end,
Speaker 15: like Bob Baffert says, that he's got to come out
Speaker 15: of the gate running, he's going to set very comfortable
Speaker 15: factions up front, and if he doesn't take a lot
Speaker 15: of pressure pressure, he's going to go a mile on
Speaker 15: the quarter around the tracks very easily.
Speaker 4: How much of a I'm very ospussion how much of
Speaker 4: a factor is that the Journalism ran three weeks ago
Speaker 4: at the breakness and sovereignty did not or sovereignty a factor.
Speaker 4: We're seeing that sovereignty is like the third favor right.
Speaker 11: Now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 15: So this is the really interesting dynamic of why horse
Speaker 15: racing is so much fun and specifically why the Triple
Speaker 15: Crown is such a cool series of raceists to watch
Speaker 15: because this year, Journalism is the only horse to have
Speaker 15: run in all three Triple Crown races. Last year, Missed
Speaker 15: Dan was last year's Kentucky Derby winner. He was the
Speaker 15: only one to have run an all three Triple Crown races.
Speaker 15: So looking at Journalism, who's built like a classic horse,
Speaker 15: He's got long legs, he's a long stride, and he
Speaker 15: hits his best distance at a mile and three sixteenth
Speaker 15: And we saw that in the Preakness as he got
Speaker 15: out of trouble and he just started powering home, his
Speaker 15: stride got longer. He literally was running faster. Typically when
Speaker 15: you see horses clothing like that, the front horses are
Speaker 15: slowing down, but he was literally starting to run faster
Speaker 15: in that last eighth of a mile. And so it's
Speaker 15: a very interesting thing because Belmont has said that sovereignty
Speaker 15: your Kentucky Derby winner. This past year has been training
Speaker 15: with also any type of energy. He's much more aggressive
Speaker 15: in the morning. He's also filled out. He's the five
Speaker 15: weeks has done him a lot of good. He's said
Speaker 15: in previous interviews. The Preakness was never on their mind
Speaker 15: had they won. The plan right along was when the
Speaker 15: Kentucky Derby goes straight to the Belmont. My concern is
Speaker 15: is this track has been a speed bias track, and
Speaker 15: so the fact that he typically is farther back, granted
Speaker 15: it's a short field, he may have to sit close
Speaker 15: to the pace, which is not his typical running style.
Speaker 15: So that could take him out of the race a
Speaker 15: little bit in the sense of what he's comfortable running.
Speaker 3: And Ben and you know this is a shorter race.
Speaker 2: It's a shorter distance is time.
Speaker 15: Yeah, So typically your Belmont race is a mile and
Speaker 15: a half. And because the Belmont for last year and
Speaker 15: this year are at Saratoga, they can't run a mile
Speaker 15: and a half due to the track configuration of how
Speaker 15: large the oval is. So we are back running at
Speaker 15: a mile and a quarter. Now, if this race was
Speaker 15: a mile and a half, I would say, Besa is
Speaker 15: your runner hands down? The way he was running on
Speaker 15: in the Kentucky Derby told me that worse the farther
Speaker 15: he goes.
Speaker 16: He will be a marathon runner.
Speaker 15: And I think the thing to note.
Speaker 16: With him is his half brother was door Knock. Door
Speaker 16: Knock won last.
Speaker 15: Year's Belmont here at Saratoga, So that also, if you
Speaker 15: want to call it a bit of a sibling bias,
Speaker 15: it's a sibling bias. Pooka also had the twenty twenty
Speaker 15: was it twenty twenty What Are We? Twenty five, twenty four,
Speaker 15: twenty three Kentucky Derby winner with Mage, and so she
Speaker 15: is one of the highest producing brood mares to ever
Speaker 15: have this many classic runners in the Triple Crown series.
Speaker 15: So to say that Besa is bred for this is
Speaker 15: an understatement.
Speaker 3: There's also a horse that Jay would like and Olvic
Speaker 3: would like, maybe maybe Dawn called Krudo Grudle. I love that,
Speaker 3: and Ray knows you know what that means. They're a
Speaker 3: little girl.
Speaker 16: I don't think I know the meaning of crude.
Speaker 2: Go ahead means hungover.
Speaker 15: Oh well, I mean that would make sense considering Jay
Speaker 15: just got back from Corona and I was hungover.
Speaker 2: So that's that's your hunch point. If if this race
Speaker 2: was running on.
Speaker 15: He's an interesting horse in here, in the fact that
Speaker 15: he's the second Todd Pletcher runner and he's the other
Speaker 15: horse that has speed, so he'll be the one the
Speaker 15: theory that will break with Rodriguez to push the pace,
Speaker 15: and the faster they go, the better of a race.
Speaker 15: It makes for your geek closers. Now, I think journalism
Speaker 15: is going to sit very close in the race. Crudo
Speaker 15: is very lightly raced. Who's coming out of Sir Barton,
Speaker 15: which was at Pimlico. He also raced three weeks ago
Speaker 15: at a mile in the sixteenth. He didn't beat a
Speaker 15: whole lot that day and didn't run a super high
Speaker 15: buyer speed figure, but that was kind of the standard
Speaker 15: for that day at Pimlico.
Speaker 16: The track was just playing kind.
Speaker 15: Of weird, and it was just it was a very
Speaker 15: slow day. Times were very slow. They were just dragging
Speaker 15: on that dirt. But I mean, Johnny Velaska's Hall of
Speaker 15: Fame jockey, he has been having himself a day. He
Speaker 15: has been winning races left and right, large prices, short prices,
Speaker 15: you name it. So I mean you got to give
Speaker 15: him credit. That Todd Pletcher goes to Johnny b a
Speaker 15: board Crudo, I mean, in a'sn to justify, how can
Speaker 15: you not bet a don of a triple crown winner?
Speaker 4: I mean, how can you not take a Latin Hispanic
Speaker 4: jockey on a horse named Crudough?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean you have to right. Let me ask
Speaker 2: you something.
Speaker 4: Because a sloppy track, how how much does it affect
Speaker 4: the time? You know, the speed of a race. I
Speaker 4: know some horses like to run in that, some horses don't.
Speaker 4: But is it several seconds? Half second? I mean how
Speaker 4: much of a difference in a winning time would there
Speaker 4: be because it's a sloppy track.
Speaker 15: I mean it really depends on the track because every
Speaker 15: track composition is a little different, it'll affect that. The
Speaker 15: other large thing to consider is if the track is
Speaker 15: sealed or what we call open. If the track is sealed,
Speaker 15: it means the dirt's been packed down super hard, so
Speaker 15: it's more like running on concrete versus like on sand
Speaker 15: on the beach. So if you're running on much like
Speaker 15: fluffy or wet sand, you're gonna sink a little bit more.
Speaker 15: Whereas a wet sealed track that's muddy, where you just
Speaker 15: see water kind of sitting on top, it's gonna be
Speaker 15: much harder, they're going to get much more of a
Speaker 15: push and a bounce off of it. So it kind
Speaker 15: of depends from that standpoint. I mean, we could be
Speaker 15: talking a couple of seconds. I mean, you're not talking
Speaker 15: twenty seconds flower in a race, but you could be
Speaker 15: a solid three to four.
Speaker 17: Second time difference between a.
Speaker 15: Wet, sloppy track that's sealed and a dry, fast track.
Speaker 2: And you said this one is not sealed, right this.
Speaker 16: One is sealed right now.
Speaker 15: And they gotten enough rain earlier they pulled a couple
Speaker 15: of Grade ones off.
Speaker 18: Of the turf.
Speaker 15: It looks like they're going to race on the turf
Speaker 15: for Race twelve right now at Saratoga. But if they
Speaker 15: continue to get weather like they have been today, I
Speaker 15: would not expect the track conditions tomorrow to be great either.
Speaker 2: Oh man, who was gonna ask you something? Oh?
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to you since the last time for
Speaker 3: the pregnants, right, we haven't.
Speaker 2: Taked to you. Just the I don't think that just
Speaker 2: the just the performance of.
Speaker 3: Journalism, because holy crap, there's no way we're thinking and
Speaker 3: Jay's probably thinking, there's no way's gonna cash a ticket,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking he's gonna finish a second, but then
Speaker 3: he gets through it and he comes down rushed. It
Speaker 3: was what he did even if we had baffort on
Speaker 3: last week. And he was like, I mean, that doesn't
Speaker 3: happen very often.
Speaker 15: No, that that race was something else to watch. And
Speaker 15: I was sitting in the newsroom with a bunch of
Speaker 15: other people and we were all hooting and hollering, and
Speaker 15: you know, he got slammed and in that corner, and
Speaker 15: some say, you know, the jockey shouldn't have gone.
Speaker 17: He should have gone, he should have had.
Speaker 16: A different trip.
Speaker 15: But I look at it from the horse's standpoint, and
Speaker 15: that horse is a winner, like he knows how to win.
Speaker 15: And he saw daylight through that hole, and the horse
Speaker 15: was gonna go. Whether I'm virtual riskling, his jockey.
Speaker 16: Told him not to or to go or not to go.
Speaker 15: So I mean, at that point, I believe the horse
Speaker 15: made the decision, which tells me how gussy and game
Speaker 15: he is. Again, he's a horse that we have seen
Speaker 15: in multiple races now that can take a hit, They
Speaker 15: can take adversity, and he's going to keep running afterwards. Again,
Speaker 15: I think while he can get over the mud, it's
Speaker 15: just a matter of how easily can he get over
Speaker 15: the mud? Honest, everybody would like to see a dry track.
Speaker 15: They would like to see an even playing field from
Speaker 15: that standpoint between SOT and journalism in a dry track,
Speaker 15: but we may not see that until the Breeders' Cup
Speaker 15: Classic when they both come out to Delmar, because Delmar
Speaker 15: is gonna have a really good weather come November. But
Speaker 15: for right now, no, you can't take anything away from
Speaker 15: what journalism did in the Derby and then the Preakness
Speaker 15: and what he's trying to do here in the Dalmont.
Speaker 15: His sire Curlin ran in two thousand and seven in
Speaker 15: the Kentucky Derby, he ran third. Curlin proceeded to them
Speaker 15: win the Preakness, just like journalism, and then Curlin lost
Speaker 15: the two thousand and seven Belmont to Rags to Riches,
Speaker 15: who was a todd Pletcher Philly. So while we don't
Speaker 15: have any Phillies in here that I think will be
Speaker 15: beating journalism, it's definitely something to look at as sire
Speaker 15: lines and Curlin's represented by a couple of horses in here,
Speaker 15: and the last horse that won the Preakness and then
Speaker 15: went on to win the Belmont was a fleet Alex
Speaker 15: twenty years ago, in two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, because you I don't think
Speaker 3: I've ever asked anybody this question, because you have horses,
Speaker 3: You own some horses or a horse, and you're you know,
Speaker 3: you're well versed in all this stuff. How smart are
Speaker 3: the horses? If you said that journalism was going to
Speaker 3: get through no matter what jockey or not, what are
Speaker 3: their instincts?
Speaker 2: Like? What do they do?
Speaker 16: You know?
Speaker 15: I truly believe every horse is their own individual just
Speaker 15: like people.
Speaker 16: I have heard Michael.
Speaker 15: McCarthy say it.
Speaker 17: I've heard them virtual briskally say it.
Speaker 15: I've heard people that have just happened to go to
Speaker 15: the barn and see journalism and take pictures with them.
Speaker 15: How smart and kind he is and just how just aware,
Speaker 15: like he's just.
Speaker 16: A very well minded horse.
Speaker 15: And so the fact that he wanted to go through
Speaker 15: that whole tells me how much he wants it. And
Speaker 15: we talk about in sports, you gotta have heart, you
Speaker 15: got to be able to, you know, rise above physical
Speaker 15: limitations or bad trips, And he truly is one that
Speaker 15: has a big heart and he's gonna use every ounce
Speaker 15: of physical being that he has or heart to get
Speaker 15: through where he needs to go.
Speaker 3: So unlike Jay when he's playing, not thinking he's in
Speaker 3: a game, the horses know that they're in a race.
Speaker 15: Oh absolutely, those horses know it's rain they know it's
Speaker 15: game day. There's a little bit of different setup routine
Speaker 15: that goes on on race day, and those horses pick
Speaker 15: up on it pretty fast. Obviously, when you go to
Speaker 15: the paddock and you get settled and there's a big
Speaker 15: crowd around, the horses will feed off of that, and
Speaker 15: then in the post parade. It's a very different feel
Speaker 15: in the afternoons compared to the mornings.
Speaker 16: It's why sometimes you'll hear training and say.
Speaker 15: Well, they train really well in the morning, we needed
Speaker 15: to translate to the afternoon. These horses racing at this
Speaker 15: high level, their morning trainings are translating into the afternoon.
Speaker 15: You are seeing these horses at their top form, at
Speaker 15: their best form here in the afternoons during race time.
Speaker 4: Okay you ready, Okay, So everybody that there's a whole
Speaker 4: gaggle of us that put some money on that four
Speaker 4: horse box that you gave us, and I think they're
Speaker 4: all listening today, plus a few others.
Speaker 2: Word of mouth has gotten around, so here you go,
Speaker 2: oh God, this might be your last conversation with you.
Speaker 4: All right, give us our give us our four horse
Speaker 4: exact the box.
Speaker 15: You know, I'm gonna stick with journalism on top. I
Speaker 15: truly do believe he is still the best three year
Speaker 15: old around. I think he's extremely classy, very precocious, and
Speaker 15: he's he's taken the Connections on a ride of a lifetime.
Speaker 15: So journalism on top for me, I'm going to take
Speaker 15: Rodriguez in there as well, and then I will not
Speaker 15: count out Sovereignty, the two horse, your Kentucky Derby winner,
Speaker 15: and then you got to add Beza back in there.
Speaker 15: You're Belmont winner for the last out of the last
Speaker 15: twenty years, thirteen of those winners have come out of
Speaker 15: the Kentucky Derby race. They have either prepped in the
Speaker 15: Kentucky Derby or running the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 16: So that can't be ignored.
Speaker 15: That's that you have to include the three horses that
Speaker 15: are coming out of the Kentucky.
Speaker 16: Derby in that box.
Speaker 4: So I think so those are those are the four
Speaker 4: favorites as of now. He threw us a long shot
Speaker 4: last time. If we were throwing to throw in a
Speaker 4: long shot for discussion would that be?
Speaker 15: I would? I mean, this field is it's kind of
Speaker 15: a wonky field. It's it's not just a small field.
Speaker 15: But you've got Heart of Honor who is coming over
Speaker 15: from racing in May Dawn. He ran an okay fifth
Speaker 15: in the Preakness, and you got Uncaged who ran six
Speaker 15: in the Peter Pan. I would probably take Hill Road.
Speaker 15: He's not a huge price, but he did win the
Speaker 15: Peter Pan. That is the quote unquote prep race for
Speaker 15: the Belmont. Chad Brown has been having a decent day
Speaker 15: to day after being very quiet. So if he's gonna
Speaker 15: have a horse run well tomorrow, it's gonna be Hill Road.
Speaker 16: He teams up with irad Orties, so.
Speaker 15: We'll see what happens there. I mean, he ran third
Speaker 15: in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile behind Citizen Bowl and Gaming
Speaker 15: and Citizen Bowls. Making his return in.
Speaker 18: The Woody the what is it the Woody Stevens of
Speaker 18: the h Allen Jerkins. It's the hand The Woody steven
Speaker 18: is this weekend, so the Citizen Bowl will be returning
Speaker 18: in the Woody Stevens. Uh So, I mean.
Speaker 15: Definitely Hill Rode a classy horse they had hoped to
Speaker 15: get into the Kentucky Derby. But unfortunately he just didn't
Speaker 15: have the points to get in.
Speaker 3: So if you if your little exact hits did Jay,
Speaker 3: you might not be crudeo.
Speaker 2: You might be cruzo in the morning. I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: We we just watching the end of that Preakness, and
Speaker 4: and and what was the longshot's name?
Speaker 2: The horse of finger second.
Speaker 15: Gos was a nine horse.
Speaker 4: There was no when I saw journalism come out of there,
Speaker 4: I thought there's no way after that that it can
Speaker 4: catch this horse.
Speaker 2: I thought we were cashing big. And then he just came.
Speaker 15: And that's what I mean that that is a horse
Speaker 15: with a lot of heart that that wanted that when
Speaker 15: he was the whole reason that he got in front.
Speaker 15: The jockey did not do anything that was that was
Speaker 15: all journalism.
Speaker 4: Would you would you key journalism at the top maybe
Speaker 4: first and you know, just journalism and then a bunch
Speaker 4: of horses or what what?
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 16: The box up to you?
Speaker 3: Spend his money, baby, spend his money.
Speaker 15: You know, I would put journalism on pop. I will
Speaker 15: bet him to win personally.
Speaker 16: That's That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 15: I just I truly do believe he's the better horse.
Speaker 15: And you know, hearing Michael McCarthy saying that he's breathing
Speaker 15: a different air and he's been re energized since coming
Speaker 15: to Saratoga, I think is is huge credit to him
Speaker 15: and how how he's been going. You know, Besa is
Speaker 15: the other horse that people can't seem to stop talking
Speaker 15: about Berta Risk. He was doing an interview and uh,
Speaker 15: they were saying, you know, how do you feel about
Speaker 15: the magic with sovereigny. He's like, can't forget Besa. And
Speaker 15: I think the key to that is Besa shipped back
Speaker 15: to Santa Anita after the Kentucky Derby and has been
Speaker 15: training at sant Anita, So everyone including numberto Michael McCarthy
Speaker 15: have gotten a first hand watch and how this cult
Speaker 15: has been working.
Speaker 16: And the fact again that he's out.
Speaker 15: Of Pooka, he's got two half brothers that are already
Speaker 15: classic winners, I think is another big, big.
Speaker 17: Factor to add on to it.
Speaker 16: And the fact that he likes to stop it was
Speaker 16: it's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, well, d thanks a bunch. We'll talk to
Speaker 3: you soon. I'll probably text you on Saturday tomorrow.
Speaker 2: All right, that's good and say hey to your pop
Speaker 2: far us.
Speaker 16: Of course he's calling me right now.
Speaker 2: And your mom and your mom, don't forget your mom. Yeah,
Speaker 2: your mom too.
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, you got a guy, Thank you, d D.
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Speaker 4: guy who you know, and I didn't. We didn't raise
Speaker 4: our kids like I got raised, and that was a
Speaker 4: big deal.
Speaker 2: He's accurate, I think. And then good kids. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you turn on you turn out good kids.
Speaker 4: And then you watch them and you know, my son
Speaker 4: is a dad now and you see him and I
Speaker 4: see him and his wife have the same kind of
Speaker 4: relationship or the way of doing things as we did.
Speaker 2: She's the one who knows all the things right.
Speaker 4: Let's not do this, you know, And he's like okay,
Speaker 4: you know, but you know, on the other hand, you know,
Speaker 4: he's got his thing too, and it's not like.
Speaker 2: He it's not like we're not didn't participate in raising
Speaker 2: our kids. We did.
Speaker 4: But it's kind of like listen because sometimes somebody's got
Speaker 4: a better idea than you got.
Speaker 3: And that asked me about my success. I'm single because
Speaker 3: I could do whatever the damn thing I want.
Speaker 2: I can do pretty much anything. I can do anything
Speaker 2: I want. I just don't. Sometimes you're happy, Yeah you're happy. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's great.
Speaker 3: You want to live another happy in thirty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's ray. Go get yourself on the they they made.
Speaker 4: They make your day. And sometimes I'm not. You know,
Speaker 4: sometimes it's hard, but most of the time, at least
Speaker 4: in my case, it has not been. You know, I'll
Speaker 4: give you one to my wedding boughs from from this.
Speaker 4: And I told my wife, I said, every day, whether
Speaker 4: it's a good day or a bad day, is a
Speaker 4: better day because of her. Right, if it's a bad day,
Speaker 4: it's not as bad, and if it's a good day
Speaker 4: can be a great day.
Speaker 2: That that's kind of was the message of my vowst
Speaker 2: write like that all the time.
Speaker 3: Because nobody will read that.
Speaker 2: Somebody read that good stuff? Was that good?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 4: And I said that and she got tears in her
Speaker 4: eyes and it was cool and did you mean that?
Speaker 2: But I did?
Speaker 4: I really did, because I feel, you know, I think
Speaker 4: about I think about my bad days, and I think
Speaker 4: about God, how much worse would have been?
Speaker 2: Would it have been if she wasn't there? Right?
Speaker 4: And so and so it's it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 4: an actual true statement.
Speaker 2: She's probably kept them out of trouble.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and and and the good days are even better.
Speaker 4: I had a good day yesterday, all right. I had
Speaker 4: a good day. I went to on the heels of
Speaker 4: going to Rocky Point. Okay, I don't get my blood
Speaker 4: drawn for my my my my four times a year,
Speaker 4: but and it can't my my my my a one
Speaker 4: ce my bloodshedgar is the best it's been in years.
Speaker 4: I hit the mark that I've been trying to hit
Speaker 4: for several years. I had a good day. And it
Speaker 4: was a better day because she was there, and she
Speaker 4: was like, she was really happy about it, right, and
Speaker 4: so it was a great day.
Speaker 2: Well they did that. Welcome to Delilah. I hate that
Speaker 2: lady she bothered.
Speaker 4: Me, welcome to we're not taking any calls or the
Speaker 4: lady sleepless in Seattle, right, the lady doctor doctor Fieldstone. Anyways,
Speaker 4: So that that that there we go. There we went
Speaker 4: off the rails there. But that that, you know, that
Speaker 4: was what I said to her on this summer.
Speaker 2: This summer, I'm just talking about whatever, and I truly
Speaker 2: mean that. I truly meant all of that.
Speaker 4: You know, I said some other stuff, but that was
Speaker 4: the main, the main point of my vows to her.
Speaker 3: Well, then I begged her to stick with me. Well,
Speaker 3: remember this is number two, so it is true. It
Speaker 3: is cleared after one. Yeah, for Reaither, they're gonna be
Speaker 3: a rematch, okay, Apollo Creep, what do you predict?
Speaker 2: Pain, don't want one?
Speaker 3: Okay, So we're gonna have We're gonna have Bruce Pasco
Speaker 3: four fifteen for seventeen. If you guys, I wist you
Speaker 3: can call us if you want to hear our SAPs stuff.
Speaker 3: Here we kill with with looking forward to this weekend,
Speaker 3: It's should.
Speaker 2: Be about four o'clock, So be ready. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: be bad. Yeah, I'm teeing off at nine o'clock. Get
Speaker 2: you ready, trick it before you go. I'll be home
Speaker 2: by two o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so be sloppy, so all that it should
Speaker 3: be a good day.
Speaker 4: Well, actually, I do want to get home and bet
Speaker 4: at least one or two of the other the pre races.
Speaker 2: You know, it's always fun to do.
Speaker 4: That because because they have they have uh you know,
Speaker 4: the guys that make some predictions and stuff like that
Speaker 4: on the broadcast.
Speaker 2: So I kind of listen to those guys. Maybe throw
Speaker 2: a couple of bucks down. Hello, you're on there nine
Speaker 2: of the ball. Who's this big? What's the word kruli?
Speaker 21: I know, Well, I want to want to know if
Speaker 21: Jay's cru first thing, you know.
Speaker 4: The time I was I was on Tuesday, but I
Speaker 4: wasn't at the time.
Speaker 21: He's been reading John Wooden poems and.
Speaker 2: Success vic. There's a sight of me that you guys
Speaker 2: don't see all the time.
Speaker 21: I guess because uh, I want you to say that
Speaker 21: when Noah throws his first touchdown this year and I
Speaker 21: say it's a good day, I can't wait to see.
Speaker 2: It, man, I can't wait completely. You completely know you
Speaker 2: had me at Hello.
Speaker 21: I'm gonna go to the bar tonight, Little Mexico. Here
Speaker 21: I come with Jay's words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll that'll help you.
Speaker 21: You be just like and then they'll laugh me out
Speaker 21: of there. And they're gonna laugh me out of there
Speaker 21: in a second where those words.
Speaker 2: I don't go to those places anymore.
Speaker 21: VI great show.
Speaker 2: You guys. Talk to you too, all right, Dick, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just drink it home.
Speaker 3: Well you there, because he's the one texted me this
Speaker 3: morning really disappointed about the baseball team.
Speaker 4: Well that was disappointing to see for sure. You know,
Speaker 4: I was really disappointed in Crampkowski. He just looked awful.
Speaker 4: I mean literally, he was Every pitch that he threw
Speaker 4: was up and they were and they were crushing him.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, fix that.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it was a I'm to
Speaker 4: the point where I thought, is there is there let
Speaker 4: many different about the mound or what was it?
Speaker 2: Let me let me let me ask you this up.
Speaker 3: If they lose ten to five tomorrow or whatever, d
Speaker 3: eight to two or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: How do you measure this team or this season.
Speaker 4: I think it's still really good. You know, they got
Speaker 4: to the you know, they got to a super regional.
Speaker 4: The they won a regional on the road, right, So
Speaker 4: you know, you got to give him credit for that.
Speaker 3: How would you it's okay, so you this ship for
Speaker 3: some sall has been over. How would you look at
Speaker 3: the softball season? You can have a little more expectation
Speaker 3: from myself from this because because of what the past.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the past hasn't been that great. It hasn't
Speaker 2: been that great. But you like it.
Speaker 4: You keep thinking, you know, they're they're they're making progress,
Speaker 4: they're going to move. Then they were kind of in
Speaker 4: the end, they were kind of static, right, they didn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, they got to a regional, but you know
Speaker 4: that was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but sometimes they run up against a better team,
Speaker 3: and I think Mississippi may have been the better team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3: People are very distraught about what's going on right now,
Speaker 3: and with softball, with softball, with you know, all the
Speaker 3: transfers of the situation, how it ended.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not there, and I don't I don't know Caitlin
Speaker 3: from and you know, we talked to her a few times,
Speaker 3: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just more difficult than what people think.
Speaker 4: It's way difficult, and and and and and the money
Speaker 4: issue that's that that's come up. I mean, look at
Speaker 4: look at what Texas Tech. You know, they're in the
Speaker 4: they're in the championship game because they went and paid
Speaker 4: million a million dollars for a picture. Now, I hope
Speaker 4: that whoever gave her that million dollars if they win
Speaker 4: the national championship, that it was that they that it's
Speaker 4: worth well worth it to them.
Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't be to me what she's back for.
Speaker 2: One hundred million. Yeah million.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, but you know they're gonna lose players,
Speaker 4: Steve and there.
Speaker 2: You know, we probably I'm sure we haven't.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we had, Jenny Dalton said
Speaker 3: she I think she put sometimes we don't know things right.
Speaker 2: Maybe there are a few that needed to leave.
Speaker 4: But you know, you when you're Arizona and you don't
Speaker 4: have the money to keep them, you lose your best
Speaker 4: players every year and you get players to replace them,
Speaker 4: and and and then not on like football, right, they
Speaker 4: can't you know, they can't seem to find the ace
Speaker 4: pitcher because that ace pitcher is going to get money
Speaker 4: from somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and it's tough.
Speaker 4: It's it's a at a at a sport like softball,
Speaker 4: or even baseball. I think that's a bigger factor than
Speaker 4: say football and basketball, because in basketball, Arizona can compete, right,
Speaker 4: they can get players, and they can pay players, and
Speaker 4: I think in football to a degree, not to an
Speaker 4: Alabama and Ohio State degree, but enough to keep them
Speaker 4: to where they're Arizona softball. When when you've got a
Speaker 4: program like Texas Tech handing a million dollars to somebody,
Speaker 4: or the money that Oklahoma players are getting you, it's
Speaker 4: hard for you to keep your players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's that we got to go. Yeah, yeah, okay,