Speaker 1: Greg Glassman is the founder and former CEO of CrossFit.
This is the second part of an interview we did
with him, first one really focusing on CrossFit. The death
of one of the athletes in a drowning event very tragic,
as if you saw the first interview, really hit Greg
hard that that happened. We also sat down, though, with
a purpose, and that was to discuss the broken nature
of science in America. The scientific process has been perverted
and destroyed by people who seek to use it for profit.
Greg of course made a huge profit with the scientific
mind in CrossFit by defining fitness and then going about
achieving fitness. But he made some predictions. Greg predicted that
his process constantly varied functional movements performed at high intensity,
which will increase your work capacity across broad time and
modal spectrums, would result in creating athletes who could go
squat five hundred pounds and then turn around and run
a sub five minute mile That was unheard of and
people said, you're insane, you can't do it. He predicted
that this form of exercise would reverse type two diabetes.
Speaker 2: And it did.
Speaker 1: He has the mind of a scientist, and you know
what he says doesn't work in science anymore peer reviewed papers.
He has one thing in mind in terms of fixing science,
which is to show people something called a pee value,
to teach it, to feature it, and to honor it.
This is the second half of my interview with my
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Speaker 1: This is so vital for people to understand. So let's
go back to this is why I started.
Speaker 2: With your predictions about what you were going to do
with athletes.
Speaker 1: Okay, you made predictions. Those predictions have come true. You
have a personally high p value, and your coaches and
your affiliates. Okay, you made predictions, they came true. Your
thesis has proven right. I want to just simplify this
for people like me, just simpletons. I've lived in Idaho
for four years. I know when I'm driving to the studio,
I have learned that the trains cross between ten minutes
before and ten minutes after the hour. I therefore know
I'm going to avoid train crossings at that point. If
I'm on AID and I'm headed east and I to
a given exit prairie and I go, this is slow,
I'm gonna jettison. These are me making predictive models over time.
So you go back to the IHM E. They made
some predictive models. None of them were right, all of
them catastrophized. I believe on purpose, and we were told
one hundred percent safe and effective, et cetera. Back to
the band topic. That to me is not just junk science,
it's purposely bad. But you're saying science can be measured
by if you are going to discover some patterns and
some truths, and you're going to come to us with
solutions and ideas and theses. Here's the simple way to
figure out if your science is solid. Make a prediction
and have it come true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absent to predictive record, we got nothing and a
model that, in fact, I would obligate a model to
some if possible, some retrodiction. If you've got a climate model,
it would be nice if it could show the past
ice ages, even any ones, you know, right, But a
forward looking model with no track record is not yet science.
And I don't care how many bow ties and white
lab coats that computers you involve until it's until it's
predicted something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I need a forecast of a measurement that comes true,
and we're going to attach a number to that and
give it some predictive value. And that's that's the validation.
But we've skirted over something else that I think is critical,
and that is it. There's there's two types of corruption,
two common definitions. And the one we all know of
the the bad behavior, you know, the ill gotten game
kind of right, the ten thousand dollars wrapped in aluminum
foil and the senator's freezer, which is hilarious. You can
buy a senator, it's amazing, Right, They're cheap, they're really cheap.
They're horrors and cheap horse. But that corruption we all
know of. But there's another sense of corruption, and it's
like the corruption of a computer file where a one
or a zero falls off the page and now the
thing doesn't work as intended. So we have an impairment
of function by a design shift or change. Right in science.
We had an epistemic corruption that gave fertile grounds refuge
and hid that the evil corruption. And that's it's an
epistemic failing. It's a failing of process and what we've done.
In fact, my broken science initiative gathered the friends we have,
and I couldn't I have a dream list of people
from around the world that know the things that we know.
I just I made friends of my mentors, of my
ideological intellectual mentors, but we sent word out. I had
Emily drop them aligne and said, when science replaces a
predictive strength with science is the determinant of a model's validity,
science becomes nonsense. And Buddy, that was like the perfect
bass lure. I didn't have a single one of those
people that I admired do anything other than respond instantly
to that. Matt briggs response was you think I got
a phone number right, And so it was an easy
thing to put out to But that is indeed, what's
happened is that the predictive strength of models as the
determinant of validity. And again I said that it not
only is the determinant single space, sole determinant of validity.
There's nothing else, there's nothing else that matters. My father's
line was whether it comes to you from inspiration or
perspiration does not matter. It's the predictive strength. So if
you have a bad dream of equal mc square, its
value lies in its predictive strength, not in the source.
And that corruption has given refuge to this second level
of corruption. And that basically is it. With enough industrial money,
I can create any science I want given this current
method where consensus is what's required rather than predictive strength.
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a theory politically greg that there are smart, evil, scheming
people on top.
Speaker 2: In the middle, there's folks like me that we do our.
Speaker 1: Thing, We raise our families, we make a little money,
we retire, we do things, we go to church, we
do that. On the bottom, there's stupid supplicants who will
do whatever they're told because they know they can't cut
it in the commercial world.
Speaker 2: So on the top you have someone who might.
Speaker 1: Say, well, I have no problem look when they attack me,
but I represent science itself, right, So you know, scheming
people who have a lot of money and they're getting
a lot of nefarious money, and even publicly they're making
way too much money. Then on the bottom of that,
you've got people who wear, you know, really bright scarves
and say things like, well, but it was Thanksgiving and
it was my family, so I mean we took that risk, right,
You know, people like that.
Speaker 2: In the middle, there's you and I, Well not.
Speaker 1: You, because you're on the you happen to be a
good man on top of the intellectual heat. But I'm
in this middle area. Then this other aspect of this,
that consensus thing. We have turned science into a popular
girl thing. Right, Why do people want this particular dress
because all the girls are wearing it? Why are the
girls wearing it because all the girls are wearing it.
That's been applied then to peer review. This has been
the global standard. And when I started to see this trend, greg,
it was in transing kids and I had a discussion
with people from a hospital, a very very powerful hospital
that was one of the first to trans kids. They
got very upset with me for what I said in
the radio. They demanded a meeting.
Speaker 2: I'll take the meeting. Let's have the meeting.
Speaker 1: And management was there, and in this discussion, I just said, look,
maybe I'm wrong. If I'm wrong that this is a
bad thing to chemically and surgically alter these kids at
the age of eleven and twelve against parental wishes, maybe
I'm wrong. Here's how you can prove it. What's the
organic marker. Show me the organic marker, the so called
transgender cell, and then answer this question for me. Why
do I have instance after instance after instance where suicidal
intent wasn't modeled to increase it did.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 1: And their response was this discussion is over. You're a bigot,
and that was their predictive model was utopia. They were
doing popular girl stuff. They accept saying peer review. So
you're here to tell me that peer review is not
the gold standard.
Speaker 4: No, in fact, it's it's not. It's not a part
of science. It's not part of the scientific method. I mean,
look a look, science is really easy. Dave Stove said,
it could be. It could be a there's an Australian
word with drogo drongo I think is a it's a
type of bird, but it's a it's an Australian pejorative
for idiot. But he said, any drongo could understand basic science,
and it looks like this. We take observations which are
registrations of the real world, and our senses are sensing equipment.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: We work to tie that to a standard scale with
a well characterized air. We call that a measurement, and
then we can take any measurement and project that onto
a future unrealized measurement as a forecaster for measurement or
an event and that's a model, and it's predictive strength
determines whether it's a conjecture, hypothesis, a theory, or a law,
and you test it. And it's something that Benedictine Monk
could do and change genetics forever without permission from anyone
with beans yes, right, And it's someone that can turn
their their glass to the heavens and makes careful recordings
and play with them can also make immense discoveries. But
think on the predictive strength. Think of the power of
the individual that told the Emperor King or whomever person
Caesar that there was going to be a many clipse
of the sun in two hundred fifteen days, seven hours
and twelve minutes. And you do nothing with that. You
don't believe it, you don't accept it. The guy doesn't
get awards for the prediction.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 4: You know, it becomes science at the moment that it happens.
And of course then you're interested in another one. Can
you do it again?
Speaker 3: Right? Right?
Speaker 4: And I'm also interested in what the methodology was that
it enabled you to do that. But the validation came
through the predictive strength and the reason that astronomy is
a science and astrology is not. Is that you're going
to have trouble showing me that aris make better lovers.
And I'm going to easily tell you when the next
solo eclipse is going to be here in Idaho. And
that distinction is one that Carl Popper missed. And it
was funny because Thomas Cohon pointed out, almost in real time,
this doesn't even serve your original purpose, which was the
demarcation of astrology from astronomy as an example, and that
is his aimed falsification, which got baked into a Supreme
Court decision sadly enough, which gets us in another kind
of area. But what I'm also playing with in looking
at funding and talking, and that is a Supreme Court's
Dowbert decision that fundamentally enshrine peer review and consensus and
falsification and all of that nonsense to give standing legal
standing in courts.
Speaker 1: Consensus is easy to come by when there's a punishment
for coming outside of it. And we go back to
the COVID era.
Speaker 2: So we had all.
Speaker 1: These scientists who came along and said, hey, you know what,
this wuhan. This virus looks like it came out of
a lab. It looks human human modified and they said this,
and then there was this phone call and this guy
gets on, well, really we need to and all of
a sudden, the next day the predictions change or their
analysis changed, and then they got a bunch of money, right,
and now the peer review came along. Well no, I
mean this has been debunked because there's a cost for
going outside the peer group. And this is why I'm
referring to it as like teen or adolescent stuff. You know,
when I was a kid, I couldn't admit that I
like Hank Williams Junior. Sure, I like d AC DC
and Aerosmith a lot, but someone when they found out
out a Hank Williams Junior album, man, I was at risk.
Or I listened to Paul Harvey in my current high school,
like what you're not out there ahead banging and you
at the broken science initiative, Then you're arming people like.
Speaker 2: Me, people who are teachers.
Speaker 1: Academics and others to actually be scientific, to actually act
with rigor. And that's what I wanted to get into
and talk a little bit about.
Speaker 2: Emily.
Speaker 1: You should give your partner a little.
Speaker 2: Relent to it.
Speaker 4: And let me come back to Emily, and by way
of this we'll get right to it. I want to
thank Roger Kimball for recently turning me onto this little
blip that came from a John Alexander Smith at Oxford,
a dean there and professor of moral philosophy. This is
lecturing a junior class coming back in nineteen fourteen, and
he tells them, gentlemen, you're not about to bark on
a course of studies that will occupy you for two years.
Together they form a noble endeavor adventure. But I would
like to remind you of an important point. Some of you,
when you go down from the university, will go into
the church, or to the bar, or to the House
of Commons, or to the Home Civil Service, or the
Indian or Colonial service, or into various professions. Some may
go into the army, some in the industry and commerce.
Some may become country gentlemen. A few, I hope a
very few, will become teachers or dons. Let me make
this clear to you, except for those in the last category,
nothing that you will learn in the course of your
studies will be of the slightest possible use to you
in afterlife, save only this that if you work hard
and intelligently, you should be able to detect when a
man is talking rot. And that is, in my view,
is the main, if not the sole, purpose of an education.
And what I'm to do is we're building material. I
want to give people protection from the rot. And I
think that you can do that. And and the COVID
thing gives us a lot of a lot of fertile
ground here. Somebody asked me what's the market for a
seminar on epistemology? And I said, well, were you vaccinated?
I said yeah, and I go. Be fun to talk
about why if you said no, I go, It'd be
fun to talk about why these are discussions that need
to need to be had. And if it was the
science that compelled you to it, I'd like to know
what you mean by science and what you think it
is that science does that earns your trust. I want
to give you this. And Emily, Emily was Emily Kaplan
was employed by CrossFit Inc. In public relations and worked
miraculously and effectively with our friends at the Podesta organization.
Between between David Marin and Podesta and Emily Kaplan, we
just we just got fantastic results. But she was a
very capable and able defender of of my efforts in work,
and stopped big media from publishing some some blatant lies
about me. And after the sale of the company, the
interest we had in broken science and insistant on the
subject of broken science. I see myself as one of
the few professionals in the field, and that I have
spent millions of dollars pursuing bullshit science and its and
its purveyors, and and and found victory in federal and
state court.
Speaker 1: Think, so broken science came at you. This is what's
so glorious about this. It came at you. But then
it came at society, and I think it's come at
society multiple times. I think the as I mentioned, the
tranding of kids is predicated upon truly nefarious broken science
created from the human rights campaign out of San Francisco
run by two known pedophiles, billions of dollars behind the scenes,
to non governmental organizations, to to bureaucrats in front of parents.
Speaker 2: That was an attack on this.
Speaker 1: And then Harvard's I don't remember how much money they took,
but I think it was like forty five million bucks,
which is nothing to them to do a psychographic annoulysis
in psychological analysis on how to pressure PIP. You were
talking about the injections, So they had the fear of loss,
opportunity of gain. You know what was one of the
big ones was being ostracized, being removed from your your
friendship group, your family group. That was one of the
pressures they wanted to use. They did it with minorities,
and at that point it was it was golong get along.
They had all these psychographic analyzes. One of my proudest
moments in media was when I was on Russia's program
and I started to mock their outreach to rednecks like
me living in Idaho, and they did this, this is
this guy, you know, I gotten mowed the back forty
on my tractor. I would make sure I'm doing the
right thing for my neighborhood. That's why I got vaccinated.
And I did this thing about knowing I'm on my
f one twenty five and just mimicking this. That ad
greg was gone the next day, and I still wanted
floyer that and find that out. So broken science came
for you.
Speaker 2: You defeated it.
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Speaker 4: Were. I think we've been right there. I think that
we need to know what science is and what it
isn't and there are things that it wouldn't and couldn't
and shouldn't weigh in on. But there's also you know
we were when we were working with the Infant Swim Resource,
we'd ask my father to provide the mathematics to show
that that isr worked. And what we're doing is teaching
infants to float. And the problem is is that in
any kind of comparison, you have to find people that
care but didn't take action about their children drowning, as
those that are willing to take ten minutes a day,
six days a week, for six weeks. The discomfort of
that is beyond description. The fact that most people won't
stay through the program. I understand the why of it.
It's like watching your kid getting waterboarded.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: And at the end, my dad says, you want me
to teach that floating to show you mathematical evidence for
floating kids being better than sinking kids. And I said, fundamentally, yes,
that's right. I think if you need that, show them
to you share your kids taken away. Like I don't.
He says, I think you're asking science to do something
that doesn't do. And you it's like, it's like this,
it's like what you know. I'll go to your I'll
go to the town hall meeting on free speech, but
I'm bringing a gun in case they lose the debate
over right, there are things, there are things that are
outside of the space of logic and or or discourse maybe,
and I'll take one of them is men and women's sports.
The problem with with someone knocking my little girl out
of her socks just got a penis hiding amongst a
bunch of girls playing lacrosse. I'm not I'm just I
don't I don't have any interest in a discussion of that.
Speaker 1: Because.
Speaker 4: Why it shouldn't you want me to talk about it
so you can do something horrible to me. That's not
the Those aren't the kind of things I'm not going
to have a discussion with home invasion robbers either. It's
not a difference of understanding. It's not a resolve itself
in a talk.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you have built this, You've made friends of
your mentors, you put together an organization, people who've helped
you define science. You've also talked with me about the
creation of materials for schools, for video repositories, so that
actually teachers can get back to teaching based upon what
a scientific model would look like.
Speaker 2: In a healthy way.
Speaker 1: I could see that just delivering change beyond greg not
just science, not just people avoiding junk science, not just
people like getting victimized by a bad meeting.
Speaker 2: Doctor.
Speaker 1: Hey you should take a stat and why well everyone
else has taken the stat and status are tasty, but
also reintroducing skeptical thinking.
Speaker 4: Yes, at the almost fundamental level, the trivium and quadrivium
need a bit of a mending to some modern understanding.
And simple things like like you know, at the point
that a kid can do long division and understands fractions,
ten eleven, twelve years old at the latest, I would hope, yeah,
at that point it's time to start talking things like
conditional probabilities and show give like a Kolmagarov drawing a
geometric interpretation of a given B and show what be
given A would look like. And even little kids ten
year olds, my kids can see that they're not the same.
And we're starting there. We have a useful bit of
something in your education that I can turn into a
roadblock to some of the over the cliff mistakes that
are made routinely in medicine, especially in the field of diagnostics.
Just talking about the prosecutor's fallacy. It's a problem in
legal circles, but you can see the deficiency in our
scientific literacy. And I think what's wonderful is that the
opportunity for correction begins at eight, nine, ten years old.
I think that kids need to be taught what science
is ahead of any particular of science. Yes, it is
source and repository of man's subjective knowledge. Of validation comes
from predictive strength. That is the source of the objectivity,
the sole rational basis for trust, you know what, on
a replication crisis or something.
Speaker 1: We directly we're going to talk about this replication. So
explain that for everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, I and O. He's published a seminal piece
that started a wave of wonderful discussion. But what he
said is most research findings are false. And he's saying
is in the space of biomedical research that over half
of the research findings won't wouldn't pan out, won't replicate.
We know by direct clinical evidence, by attempting to replicate
what is it, fifty three preclinical studies in on collagen
hematology that what was it? Eleven percent of them would replicate.
And these are foundational works on which the whole of
cancer research, chemopharmacy, pharmaceutical intervention is based on this work.
And none of these studies have been retracted. We found
out that that paltry eleven percent. I think six to
fifty three that might be the number. But the replica
what's fascinating, I think, and the replication crisis, there's a
lot of people talking about it. I didn't pick the
name broken science when I throw it into Google. There's
a lot of people that have used that terminology in
reference to science that won't replicate and the failures of
entire fields like Alzheimer's research and that kind of stuff.
But I don't think answer. I don't think we're in
a fruitful line of discussion until we have the discussion
is what was the rational expectation of replication? Because there
is none. When I look at the science that will replicate,
it's like, of course it didn't.
Speaker 1: So this is me going bowling. I very rarely have
ever bowled. I bowled the two hundred one once. Yeah,
and you know what, Greg, in the next round of bowling,
I got her bald almost everything right, and that obviously luck.
Now we're not talking about luck here. I don't think.
I mean, it could be bad. It could be the nefarious,
you know, evil sandwich thing. We've talked about, the evil people,
the dumb people. But that replication crisis goes back to then,
to me, this definitional crisis. And this is where I
think it's really important to go from the kids, arming them,
critical thinking, teachers, critical thinking, what about people who work
in the field, Greg, And they know they're working in
corrupt fields, they know the sciences around them as corrupt.
What can we do to help scientists like that who
actually want to deliver quality work and actually don't want
to be trapped in I'm thinking about a family member
who her company got bought by Pfizer, and she's very concerned.
She doesn't want anything like I just gonna be careful.
She's a family member, but she's concerned, and I would
be too, because Pfizer, in my judgment, is a criminal cartel.
Speaker 2: But she's a great scientist.
Speaker 1: So if you've given any thought to how we can
help scientists like that have a home where they can
actually practice real scientific rigor with good p values replicable results.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. My solution to anything like this is
network and hub form a network of people. It's interesting
on a topic, how many individuals you could, you know,
pick your topic and find the people that are weighing
in and then get to them and ask if they
know of each other and they will by work only
and so if you can get them together, yep, and
you're the one that does that, now you're part of
the conversation. That's kind of been my dirty little trick
is networking, hub, network and hub and crazy things happen
when you get these people together like that. When we
got the crossfitting physicians together, I said, the interesting thing
about this assembly of physicians is they all know something
firsthand clinically in the gym that is orthogonal, if not
antithetical to the party line in medicine. They know truths
about exercise, about squatting, about yes, carbohydrate that other doctors
don't know.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: One of the doctors had said we need to have
pins for the doctors, and I said, what do you
mean pins. She goes, little enamel pins. It'd be so
cute and it'd see CrossFit health and I'm not now,
we don't do this. So she had the pins made
anyways and didn't tell me that it had them Mountain.
I was furious. But then on social media there'd be,
you know, the middle of a heart transplant, there's a
picture of a guy that's got the CrossFit health thing,
and all these people in a cute scenarios wanted a
picture taken with their crossit health. They were sending a
message through their own community that they knew something that
was important, vital in the essential, in the sense of
an essential amino acid optimal to the organisms functioning that
was counter to the party line, and so I think
that lies the answer, because I tell you, the people
have come forward for me. I'm on a soda tour
and I got two guys in the back of the
room that look like they could be a security concern,
Two big, thick guys, and it's kind of an egghead crowd.
This is in DC. And they come forward and introduce
themselves as being from CrossFit NIH and I go, where's that?
They go in the NIH wow and I didn't even
know there was one. Yeah, there is one, and they go,
you need to keep doing what you're doing. That there's
a lot that no. When I'm while I'm suing the NSCA,
I find out that they're having open workout competitions in
their gym in Colorado Springs, and I'm introduced people that
work there that are good people. I show up at
the ACSM event. Guy comes up to me looking at
the same thing I'm looking with her. So I know
who you are. I just want to say hi, and
I'm a real fan of what you do. And for
obvious reasons, I'm not going to take a picture with you,
but keep it up. And so you get to live
in that world and that's that's a that's a neat space.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, was at Microsoft for a few years,
quite a lot of years, and this is a societal point.
And I know you've been kind with your time, so
we can wrap it up. But I was in a
meeting and a SVP was here presenting a plan, and
it was to acquire this company they thought was going
to beat YouTube.
Speaker 2: This was back in the day.
Speaker 1: And I'm listening to this and everyone around the table
is going, this is great.
Speaker 2: Rock them on, perfect SVP.
Speaker 1: And it comes around to me and I'm one of
like eight people in the room and I said to
the VP, have you made your decision? Well, no, that's
why I'm here. Are you genuinely open to feedback? Yes,
that's why I'm here. It's a stupid idea. This can't
possibly catch YouTube. YouTube has a snowball algorithm we don't
yet even understand. It's got a massive repository of videos.
Do you understand that they have more video than all
TV network Himbai? And it's also all metanalyzed with keywords.
Do you understand it? It's not a video service, it's
a search engine. It's going to be the world's larger
search engine.
Speaker 2: But with more valuable content. Because it's audio video.
Speaker 1: I mean to understand that they're going to be doing
live video, et cetera. This thing isn't five years behind,
it's five hundred years behind. This is a stupid purchase.
You'd be wasting money, you'd embarrass yourself. And he looked
at me and he goes, that's why you're here. And
then you looked around the room and he goes, why
was he the only one? And later a guy came
up to me, and he was a GM two, and
he came up and said.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: And I don't I generinely don't curse that much, but
I actually said.
Speaker 2: F off, you left it to me.
Speaker 1: I'm the junior guy in that room. You've been here
fifteen years. I'm the guy who has to say that right,
no speak up. So my point, Greg is you have
earned and earned earn grown wealth enough that they can't
do much to you. I mean, they could, they could
assassinate you, god willing, they won't.
Speaker 2: They can threaten you. They've tried that.
Speaker 1: They tried to ruin you in court. And what do
you say to people who don't have your wealth but
need to speak up because Greg, I think the time
is short to tell truth. I mean, I think God's
showing us we're personally. You and I have never really
talked about faith, But person I think we're in an
end Times center. Everybody thinks that everybody thinks that we
should talk one day about the pe value of Isaiah
and Daniel. But what do you say to people who
know they should speak up, but they're afraid.
Speaker 4: I fully understand that. You know, I'm I can't tell
a football player, guy in the NFL, I had this.
I couldn't look him in the eyes and tell me
you have quit taking steroids. I wasn't gonna play football.
He knew that it was he was in the NFL
because that's what got him from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah,
that's what made it possible. And so I do I
think they're healthy for you to know shorten your life? Likely?
Is it my decision to make to I mean, this
is the public health question. No. At one point, do
you not send your kids to school? You know, and
that's a very personal decision. And for families where an
education didn't matter, what's it matter if you kids weren't
going to school anyways? Maybe it didn't matter. But if
school was the way for your kids to get out
of their situation, then of course it mattered. No, I'm not.
I don't have that fatal conceit to be able to
tell everyone what to do. But I certainly know to
take my hat off and drop to a knee when
someone makes it sacrifice like that, like that Gal from
Levi Strauss. You know, God bless her. Look what she did.
Isn't it extraordinary? If I have that expectation of everyone, right,
you know, there's got to be the one guy that
will run into the building room to building, how to
be the hero It only have if not everyone will, right,
And I don't fault those people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I've discovered for myself, and this is
a faith thing as well, is you know I was
told I've never work in radio game right when I
quit local radio said no to a five year contract.
That's a setup over there for one hundred and eighty
radio stations. Yeah, the weekend stuff is sixty radio stations.
The audio version of our podcast is in the top
one half of one percent globally.
Speaker 2: We're starting to make things happen on YouTube and video. People.
Speaker 1: Faith the Christian scenario is, hey, what you give up
for God, you'll get back seven times. And what I
would say to people is, if you can't speak out
at work, speak out to your kids. Let them know
what you're seeing, show them how to validate, how to predict.
We did this with our daughter growing up. What will
happen if I take a boiled egg and spin it
versus a non boiled egg, And we.
Speaker 2: Did a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Teach your kids so that they don't have to be
in the same siren. They don't have to live under
the fear of I said the unpopular thing. There are
a lot of people down at renew who shouldn't be alive.
One of them is Adam. Adam has brittle bones. He's
supposed to be dead and he's been told multiple times
he's going to be dead.
Speaker 2: He's a guy that can.
Speaker 1: Break his leg standing up from a chair.
Speaker 2: But he continues.
Speaker 1: To seek health. So he swims and there's other things
he does. He does very very careful ketabout work and
body weight work. If you saw him, he'd never know
that he has this disease. Is a young guy, So
what has kept him going, Well, it's the exercise. It's
God's design and it's the stem cells God designed. He's
one of the doctors down there. So the stem cells
ethically gathered from umbilical cords and placentas only is something
he's infused with on a regular basis because it keeps
growing back body parts that shouldn't be growing back muscle, tendon,
cartilage that's not allowed here. And this economy is being
set up in this safe city in Mexico, Porto Iarta.
There's dental clinics that do things down there they're not
allowed to do up here that you can go in
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you two or three hours up here. I've experienced with
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Speaker 4: I've got, I've got I've got a just last week,
eleven year old and here nine and a half year
older brother. But we can be listening to some kind
of news story and it turns on, what's the what's
going on here? No such thing as free? Thank you?
Turn it back up. Just start with some basics. Right.
Somebody paid for it, right? Right? Somebody?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: It's not free healthcare.
Speaker 4: That's the thing to ask. He's paying for it? Right?
Speaker 1: That's that is a perfect, perfect question, and it brings
us back to broken science, broken science institute.
Speaker 2: Who's paying for it? I think we have a decent idea.
Speaker 4: My dad would turn down the TV anytime nine out
of ten, Dennis, and I'm telling you this one on
for fifteen years, and he'd turned down the TV and
explained whoever was sitting there, that there's no voting in
science and that innovation is going to come from the
one scientist and the one dentist. In ten You want
to know what's he using to brush his teeth?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Not that he won't use pepsident or whatever the hell
it was.
Speaker 1: But I had my company, spin Spotter. I was at
we Want a Demo God Award. We were great idea,
just really too early. Social media wasn't there yet. And
I was talking to Walt Mahlsberg.
Speaker 2: You know what I know?
Speaker 1: Okay, So he's tech writer yea, yeah, I do know
who that is, big, big wigger. He came up to
me and super column Yeah yeah, and my and my
PR agent who hates me now because she's gone off
the off the cliff, leftist, and the guy I hired
to run the company's going to Okay, Waltz coming, I've
met him at Microsoft. He's a decent guy. What walks
up and he says, spin Spotter. Show me one instance
of spin in the Wall Street Journal. Go so, go
to Wall Street Journal, pull up an article and turn
on our device was a toolbar back in the day
when those are their thing. It keys in this article
and it hides hits the phrase experts say. And Waltz says,
what's wrong with that? I go, well, let's hit click
it said which experts? The article quotes one person and
and you're saying experts plural and he sat there and
it's like this uncomfortable silence and my pr agent is shaking,
and what goes, Hey, you're right, it shouldn't either we had.
Speaker 4: I was saying, someone needs to set up a reddit
or a page, and it's would be the I stop
reading when and yes, And for me it's experts say yep.
But my favorite all time was parenting experts at Harvard,
and I'm like done, I'm done. There are no parenting
experts and if they were, they're not atror that we
know for a frat. Yeah, isn't that great parenting experts
at Harvard?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: The simplest questions can befuddle the most nefarious schemers. I've
told you before. With the injection that doctor, I said,
how's it work?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: No, how does it work? And then he goes, well,
it's a in ard. By that, I mean an ACTIVISTY.
I got that when you said a nerd, you know,
portion of the virus that builds anybody's your body. And
I go, oh, so it's not a gene sequencing device
that produces a fact simile of the spike protein forty
six million at a time in my body. And he
says this to mcgregors. If you knew that, why'd you ask?
I go? Well, better question, Since you knew it, why
did you lie?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: The Emperor's Naked story? Oh yeah, there needs to be
a redo on that where the kid's parents get audited
and the mom loses your job and he gets thrown
out of the price at school and yeah, you know what,
But the costs were the security that wroughs them up
on their way to the gard right right, you know.
I mean that was just just the start of it.
But it was as simple as that is, the Emperor's Naked.
I have a quick Microsoft story for you. There was
a Xbox Devices division of longtime early employees, filthy, rich,
wonderful men. They were all friends each and all crossfitting together.
Led by a fifty five year old gentlemen. They could
probably do seventy five pull ups neat neat crew. But
they had a wearable that crazy enough knew the difference
between lat pulled down and pull ups riding a stationary
bike and a real bike. Tell you you're doing, Fran,
Diane or Helen. You put in simple inputs and that
was me. Wow, wow, So we're doing all this stuff
and the first thing it was funny to me, was
it I said, it's really good because I did fran
and I timed it and I counted the repsenter degree
with me, So that's really cool. The technology is amazing.
And then over time it's like, but I think I
also know the difference between real pull ups and that pulldown,
and I also pretty much aware of when I'm riding
the stationary bike versus yeah, and I and it's like,
it's it's amazing and it's wow, but it's gonna end
up in the drunk drawer. And I had to walk
away from the project and they were heartbroken.
Speaker 1: I've I conceived of a device like that when I
was leaving Washington, d C. Trying to figure out what
to do next, and we started to look at that.
We just came up that we could probably figure out
bench press but then wait, push ups, right, And I see,
you're not making fun of my garment Phoenix seven.
Speaker 4: No, but their thing worked. It was ingenious, collected signatures
from all these activities for like they were just doing
their own workouts, yea, collecting the signatures, docking, loading up
to the cloud and doing crazy computing all those signatures
and actually found the distinctive that made that a real
pull up.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing that we're trying to get to
to a crowdsource that we don't have the money to
do that. My friend the Broken Sigence Institute, linked in
the show, notes, it's been so kind with your time.
And I don't mean to embarrass you. I really, this
is not my intent. I just wanted to thank you
for welcoming into your life and you like family, Thank
you and for your kindness. And I'm I'm We're gonna
be blessed by what you do.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shake your hand again.
Speaker 4: Have me back. I don't quit have any ideas. You
drive here, walk in and you've come on my NAV
got me here without the interstator or any highway. Nice
celtis and back rows the whole way security concern.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Greg Glassman, Broken Science Institutes, and Lord,
thank you for wise counsel friends like this. One day
I'm going to get Greg to read a book I
gave him and we're going to talk faith.
Speaker 2: One day. We're going to have a conversation. This is
a Todd Hermer show.
Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, make every
effort to walk in the light of crust