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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist and

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David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just as

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a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please

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do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd

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love to hear from you. Hi, Molly, Hey David.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Lots of cover, lots of cover this week.

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Did you have a nice Easter?

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Speaker 2: Wonderful Easter. It's always like the top day of the year.

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Kids had fun. I suggested that their Easter egg baskets

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include less candy and more other stuff, and they reminded

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me that they'd given up candy for lent and that

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they wanted a huge basket of candy, so didn't. I

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also stumped one of the kids on where I hid

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the basket, which is like my big goal each year.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Easter roll celebrations at the White House?

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Speaker 2: We didn't go. We didn't go this year, but we've

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been previously and I thought it was I just want

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to say the Easter bunnies at the White House have

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always scared me. Many of the of the mascot easter

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bunnies that you see like at the mall or elsewhere

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are terrifying, and this was the White House one was

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always bad too. But they got new Easter bunnies and

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they're very cute, so I'm very happy about that. Did

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you see President Trump getting really into coloring with the kids.

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Speaker 1: No. I did see him say something like, do you

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remember when the last Easter bunny, you know, lead crazy

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Joe out of the White House or whatever. He's like,

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no one leads Trump. No easter bunny is going to

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lead Trump out of the White House.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't see that. I forgot that about our

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previous president. But there's a coloring table, there are all

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sorts of activities for very young kids at the Easter

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egg role. It's a very fun thing to take your

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kids too. And it's also fun because you see people

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that you know professionally, but they're there with they're chasing

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their own children. And that always is a like a

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like a beautifully humbling experience to see people managing their

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own flock of kids. But there's this coloring table and

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President Trump sat down and he was so intently coloring

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with the kids who were also very intent about coloring,

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and it just there's some I don't know what it is,

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but I sometimes when I'm coloring with kids, I also

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get very into it, you know, and I'm very like,

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let me focus here while I keep my colors in

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the lines and everything. And I find it kind of soothing,

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you know, like jumping on a trampoline or something. It's

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just kind of soothing.

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Speaker 1: And I have seen you jump on a trampoline. And

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also I just want to say I love coloring. I

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love coloring. You know they have the adult coloring books now, Yeah,

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very intricate kind of designs that you can color in. Yeah,

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it's so much fun, and you really, I don't know,

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you get intense about it. You stay in the lines,

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you finish.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So yesterday I was at the Museum of Modern

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Art in New York City. And I'm not a big

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modern art fan, but there are certain artists who I

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do like, and they have a ton of Piet Mandrian

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and I was looking at it and looking at various

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pieces and I thought, I know he's Dutch or whatever,

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but he's like a visual representation of what it's like

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to be German. Like there is such order and balance,

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and it again makes everything feel like it's in its

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place when you see his bright colors and paintings.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's funny. I love MoMA is great, and I

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love modern art for the most part, not not the

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like when they pile up one hundred bagels to the

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sky kind of installation art, but just abstract expressionist art.

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And I don't like him because it is so orderly.

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I like it a bit messy and exciting.

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Speaker 2: So my problem with modern art is that it it

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is frequently ugly and chaotic and disorderly and rejects the

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understanding of truth and beauty and causes all sorts of

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or relates to or causes or is the result of

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a breakdown in people's understanding of what's true and good frequently,

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not all the time. I mean, there are some great,

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great artists, and I also reject like who they put

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in with some of these like Cimone next to like

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a pile of vomit, and it's like, well, that's not

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these are not the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's sometimes this fine balance between just laughing at

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what you're looking at and thinking that it's cool, you know.

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don't think about it as deeply as that. You know,

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but I don't take it that seriously. I just sometimes

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I wish people just look at something and say, wow,

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that's pretty cool, you know, and then move on to

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the next thing and say that. You know. But since

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we're talking about Easter, we should talk about Pope Francis,

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who passed away on Monday. He had not been well

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for a while. I think, you know, this is not

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completely unexpected. Obviously, I don't have much to say about

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Pope Francis. Think you look, you know, he seemed like

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a nice and decent person, and when he got involved

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in politics, I would say something, But as far as

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theological things go, that's not really my business to to

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to get involved. Though. I have to tell you I

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saw the funniest tweet from someone who said that he

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hoped that Trump is all like one of these big accounts.

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He hope that Trump would get involved here so that

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we didn't have another globalist Catholic Pope Catholic, which seems

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weird to say to the meaning universal exactly all bracing. Yeah,

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But anyway, so I was said to see him going,

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I'm do you get into the whole uh uh, you know,

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College of Cardinals or whatever it's called, the election, all

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of that the smoke.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So, as we frequently discuss, I'm Lutheran, and Lutherans

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are different than a lot of non Roman Catholic Christians

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in that we never sought to leave the church. We were,

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we were kicked out, and we so we have these

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very We care a lot about what happens in Rome

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in the way that you would if you're you know,

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care about your own family if they kicked you out

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of your family. And we the Reformation was intended to

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reform the church to the and restore the teaching of

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the Gospel, as opposed to like we're out of here

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and we're starting a new church, and so we also

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there's a saying about when the pope's sneezes, the rest

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of the church catches a cold, like you want a

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good pope because it affects the entire church. And I'm

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not one of these like reflexive haters of Francis. I

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think he had some good things, like at his best

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he cared deeply about mercy. It was weird to me

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and to many of my friends who are Roman Catholic

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about how he didn't seem to extend that same charity

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to Conservative Catholics, and he was sometimes quite like brutal

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and harsh with them about saying they weren't allowed to

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worship according to the traditional Latin Mass, which was a

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big thing in the United States and had brought a

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lot of people into the Church of a certain type

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of person too, and he was kind of like cruel

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to those people. So I don't want to downplay that.

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like scripture, tradition of the church. It showed in his

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case was more political. He was not like a Benedict,

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who was one of the greatest theologians I think in

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the church of that time, wrote beautifully about the centrality

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of Christ to the church. And then John Paul two

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was also like a giant really too. We had two

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popes that were so different than the historic norm of

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potpoury where they poke. Jon Paul the second really brought

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into like a modern way the way that the church

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had had frequently the Roman Catholic Church had frequently been,

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you know, just as much a political creature as a

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religious vehicle. You see that when you go to the

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Vatican Museum, you see all these like it's like any

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other empire museum. You know, here are the things that

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we that we got through control of a large part

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of the world, and here are some really pagan things

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that you wouldn't think a church would be celebrating. But

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PopEd on Paul the Second, with his unique understanding of

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the evils of communism, played such a big and mighty

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beautiful role in bringing down Communism, working with other world leaders,

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and then you have Francis and so it was like

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kind of a letdown, But if you were being honest,

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more of the pattern of popes throughout the ages. So

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I am praying, actually, I just I was talking to

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a Roman Catholic priest yesterday who was about to go

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on Fox, and you know, I was like, I'm Lutheran,

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but I really pray that you guys get a wonderful

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pope because it affects the whole church. So I pray

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that the Cardinals do a good job picking someone, and

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that they more than anything, that they don't do a

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bad job, because there are a lot of bad options

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or bad directions the church, the Roman Church could go,

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and I don't want it to go in those directions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I should say I'm interested in the

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conclave and all that goes on, but I also I

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want to pope that Again, just from an outsider view,

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I'm a big fan of Orthodoxy and and religious tradition,

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and I hope that the more we strengthen that, the

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better I think it is for Western society, especially considering

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all the forces of the bad parts of secularism and

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sorry Islamist you know, ideas. So I'm all for that.

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I also, you know, I agree with the things you said.

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I read. Again, I'm not an expert, but I read.

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I'm a fan of archbishops Chapooh and he wrote something

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on this, and it was it was somewhat critical, you know,

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about the lack of precision of language. I guess that

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the Pope Parentsis used which would confuse people or give

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them the wrong idea about certain aspects of Catholicism. And

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in a selfish way, I you know, I want them

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to be Orthodox because I oppose abortion. I want the

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Catholic Church to be stronger on that. I have certain

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ideas about society, and I want them as allies. I

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don't know if you saw the Wall Street Journal had

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a piece last week about how people are returning to

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the Catholic Church or converting, like there's there's actually an

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uptick here in the United States, but there being enticed

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by the Orthodoxy. They like Latin mass they you know,

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those sorts of things. So I for me, these kind

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of especially in Judaism, which I do I think have

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a right to speak about rather strongly, kind of watering

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down the tradition, not just you know, the theological ideas,

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but watering it down and letting letting secul ideas appropriate

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the religion. I think it's just an off ramp and

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then the people leave it. So it's the Orthodoxy I

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think that often entices people. The structure, the moral structure, right.

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So anyway, that's why I hope there's a more conservative Poe.

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Speaker 2: I have a random question, but did you read Russy

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Reno's Return of the Strong Gods? Have we talked about

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that before?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I didn't. It's a book.

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Speaker 2: I would highly recommend you read it, David. You would

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love it.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be tough for me. To read, because

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I am not a fan of his work in general.

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Speaker 2: As far as you would be, you would love this book.

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I'm almost positive. So it really talks about how the

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first two World wars caused such a like breakdown in

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people's trust in institutions that they rejected so many different

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institutions and tried to create, you know, what was frequently

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called an open society, so you know George Soros's quote

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unquote charitable works or under the Open Society Fund, and

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it's and how it wasn't just like they thought that

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you could get rid of fascism through certain ways of

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ordering society, but that they include, you know, a breakdown

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of the family unit. And so it's kind of about

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institutional wrought in all of its forms, and how the

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return of the Strong Gods is kind of about how

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you can't actually vanquish all of these things and that

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they will make a return. I don't even know what

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you wouldn't like about Rusty because I find First Things,

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I really enjoy that publication, and I have enjoyed the

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commentary that he has featured in First Things.

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Speaker 1: But I mean his antagonism towards free markets, his antagonism

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towards none, you know, secular governance in general. I mean,

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I'm still a fan of letting people live under the

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you know, the freedom. I think that the freedom allows

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people to have better family life. I just, you know,

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I think anyway, I don't want to get too far

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into it, but those are the things that I don't

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure if I totally agree that there

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is even such a This is such a big conversation

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that we should that I should not just be spouting

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off about it. But I was thinking about it as

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it relates to the Supreme Court case that was heard

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earlier this week about the Maryland parents who wanted to

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opt their children out from radical gender ideology and other

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extreme teachings being foisted by their quote unquote secular government schools.

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Speaker 1: Can I just quickly interject that, actually, I think proves

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my point, even though people think it's the opposite. Okay,

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there is a state religion, and that's what that those

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public schools course parents to try to teach their kids.

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It has nothing to do with learning, you know, I'm

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saying about facts or the world or being a better citizen.

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this vacuum. They've put the brainbow flag in there instead

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of a cross or whatever, and giving power to the state. Yes,

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sometimes you're going to use it for your benefit to

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make people learn about whatever you want, but it's very

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easy for that to go sideways. So for me, this

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is why I believe in neutral principles that everyone kind

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of laughs at these days, But I believe if you

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have a state that allows people to teach their kids

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whatever they want, send them schools they want, I think

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that's better for people of faith, especially when faith is

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in decline in general.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry, yeah, agree, I just I think it might

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be harder to the educational education is an inherently moral

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act and that you will be teaching your kids' values,

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and that it might be impossible to do it absent

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that whatever system you use, it will be indoctrinating your kids.

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So you choose whether you want them to be indoctrinated

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by this radical gender ideology or whether, like what my

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husband and I have done, making sure they're taught Christian

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theology of the body, understanding that sex is a beautiful

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gift from God and that you know you're made male

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and female and that's a wonderful thing, and there are

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certain biological realities like that's not going to happen in

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a government school.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be government schools. I know that sounds like

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a radical libertarian idea, but it's not. I just think

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that that idea has passed us because there's just too

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much of a division in society about what patriotism means

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or what morality means, and that we should make it

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as easy as possible for you to send your kids

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to a school that teaches them what you want to

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teach them. I mean, there should be some basic academic expectations.

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And I love when people are a complain about how,

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you know, vouchers allow you to send your kids to

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schools where they're not going to learn the things they

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need to learn. In my view, and I've written about

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this forever, those schools always make sure your kids are

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a lot more educated on the basics than a public school.

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That's not to say all public schools are bad. Plenty

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of them are fine. But yeah, so I mean that, Yeah,

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that's a big topic. But there's no easy answer, you know,

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but certainly, you know, saying we need to control these institutions,

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it doesn't always work out that way, and then when

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you build these powerful institutions, they get to control you sometimes.

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So you mentioned the Supreme Court in this case, it

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seemed like it was going well. I guess for I

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wouldn't call it religious freedom but just educational freedom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because it's technically a religious freedom case.

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It was fed by a bunch of religious parents. It

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was Christians and Muslims, and I think even Hindus who

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had previously been allowed to opt their children out of

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government school programs that taught radical gender ideology or like

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just explicit sex stuff, and if they were five to

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fourteen or something like that, you could opt them out.

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But then they made it so that you couldn't opt out.

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And so it's partly about religious freedom, but there are

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these issues that even non religious parents should be able

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to opt their children out from being taught that if

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your mind tells you that you are what you believe

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to be the opposite sex, then you are. I mean,

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that's not necessarily just a religious issue. And then it's

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also to me about just how bad government schools have gotten,

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how much they're indoctrinating children, how radical they are, And

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it was interesting in front of the Supreme Court. You

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had a bunch of parents talking about what a violation

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this is of their parental rights. But then you also

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had people defending the forced inculcation of radical trans ideology

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on children. I mean, they were dueling rallies, and it's

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a reminder that there is a segment of the population

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that very much seeks to, you know, force your kids

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into this, even young kids, you know, young to the

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age of five. Although I don't think it should be

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accepted at any age, and I don't just mean any

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age of children. I think everyone should reject trans ideology,

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regardless of the age, regardless of whether you're an adult

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man working at a think tank who has a sexual fetish,

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or whether you're a child who's been you know, who's

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susceptible to social media. Radical trans ideology is a major

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problem that goes against what we should be teaching about

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biological reality and the best way to be whatever sex

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you were made.

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Speaker 1: Certainly there's a and it's an issue social contagion. Obviously,

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you know, no one you know this. You see the

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graphs where people identify as another sex or whatever. You know,

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it's just zooms forward at starting in the nineties and

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so on. So I agree with you, but there I

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do make a distinction between forcing you to teach your

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kids this is okay and being an adult who makes

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such a decision. You can still reject that that's a truth,

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and I do, and you can say, you know, you're

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an adult, do what you want. But I don't think

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adults would be doing this if they hadn't been, or

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many of them hadn't been, like you say, you know,

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taught in schools that it's normal or okay to do.

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And I have to say, I don't know, is this

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a county thing or is it the state of Marilanda Montgomery.

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It's Montgomery County, and I know something about that. And

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it is horrifying how bad those schools are in that sense.

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I mean, that's not that they won't teach you calculus,

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well they will, but then they're going to teach you

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something that's completely you know, a fantasy about sexuality or biology.

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And it doesn't even I don't even think opting out

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of a class is enough. I think it's just so

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embedded in everything that goes on in these schools that

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that people should be allowed to escape them. I mean,

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we should be working to allow them to escape those schools,

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and maybe they can't do that in Maryland, which is

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so such a terrible state in general as far as

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governance goes.

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Speaker 3: The argument of Wall Street versus Main Street is a

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pile of nonsense. The Watch Dout on Wall Street podcast

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The stock market was all over the place due to

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the expected tariffs, and guess what, Wall Street still made money.

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Mom and pop stores weren't even affected. Whether it's happening

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in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: What else do we have here? What's a good segue? Well,

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let's talk a little bit about I guess since we're

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talking about Marylin and the DC area, Boy, that's a stretch.

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But let's talk about Christina Christine Room who was robbed

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at a restaurant right in the middle of DC, like

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right in the middle of where I walked by this

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place near the Convention Center. If I have the right

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restaurant the other day, like I've seen it a million times.

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There's a million people around, and she was robbed. I

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believe it was in the middle of the day, right

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or am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: I don't actually know about the timing or location, but

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I do know that she was at dinner, that she's

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under Secret Service protection, and that the purse that was

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stolen was like on her, not physically on her, but

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like on her chair or at her feet or something

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like right next to her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Capital Burgher is the name of the place. She

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had three thousand in cash. I don't know who carries

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around that much, but maybe government officials have more cash.

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Speaker 2: Your business too, It's not Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She shouldn't lose, could carry a million dollars and no

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one should rob her, you know, people with a man

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wearing a mask and ninety five minutes walked into the restaurant,

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went upstairs, took it a right now. So I've noticed

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this in New York and DC because I don't live

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in those places anymore, but I occasionally visit that things

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have gotten less safe feeling nothing's happened to me, but

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just being in trained stations and like Union Station is

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a shell of its former self? Am I wrong about this?

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I just see things.

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Speaker 2: It used to be a place with movie theaters and stores,

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you know, tons of stores and.

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Speaker 1: Tons of bookstore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's got you know, a very few stores,

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a lot of homeless people. There have been some murders there.

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It's not great.

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Speaker 1: So I think that plays on people's feeling that there's

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some kind of national decline. You know, you go to

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the Capitol. I mean, it used to be terrible. I

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remember in the eighties and even in the nineties. So

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it's not like it was always great. It's probably just

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been a short window where it's actually gotten much nicer.

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It's still not a terrible still not like a hellscape.

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I mean people talk about you know, you walk around,

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it's a pretty nice city. But it definitely feels less

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safe than it used to. And so when a cabinet

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member can get mugged in a restaurant in that way,

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things are not going well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there are a couple of issues here. One,

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it's about crime in major cities, which has become a

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problem not just in New York and DC, but in

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all sorts of cities. And I think it would be

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a great opportunity. You know, the Democrat Party has become

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kind of the party of forcing kids to learn radical

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transgender ideology and running cities into the ground. What if

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they focused on doing something well. And since they control

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every city in America and they don't just control it

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by like narrowly winning elections, they're frequently getting ninety percent

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support in cities. Sometimes there'll be a third party that

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gets like, like, we're even more radical than Demo, Green

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Party or something that gets a small percentage of support.

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There is no Republican presence in American cities, just there isn't.

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So what if Democrats said, Okay, the American people are

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kind of rejecting us. We do control the media, but

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the media are less important than they have been. What

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if they focused on cleaning up American cities and showing

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that they could govern those well like they already have

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complete and utter domination and control. It would not be

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hard to roll out some plans or even to test

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some plans about how to restore American cities to their greatness.

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Make American cities great again could be their motto, because

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it's there is an issue here of just crime in DC,

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and it is a problem, and it's been a problem

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for a while. There's also the issue of our incompetent

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Secret service. I mean, she was under Secret Service protection.

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That masked man could have just as easily come into

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the restaurant and shot her, you know. And to know

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that there's no protection for even our top level cabinet

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agencies departments, it's disconcerting and makes me worried about our

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other cabinet level secretaries. And this is on the heels

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of them having a really weird handling of the only

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by the grace of God avoidance of the assassination of

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President Trump at Butler, Pennsylvania not super covered in glory

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with the situation in Florida of a gunman almost taking

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Trump out, the guy who is like a Ukraine War supporter,

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Ryan Routh. And we still don't have answers about that.

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We're never going to get answers about Christy Nomes. You

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know about this stuff. But it's really providential. It wasn't

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much worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always a little shocking when these people who

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you think are super component are actually just normal. Right.

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You want them, you want them to be better. I

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want to go back to your your the things you

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said about how the cities are in decline and how

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good governance can help them. There's this weird disconnect in

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big cities. I know this. You know in New York.

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It's true where you where good governance doesn't actually get

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you votes. It's like there are these special interests unions,

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you know, academics, you know, activist group, socialist, activist groups

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that you have to appease that gets you on a

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ballot in a primary in like New York City. So

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the people on city councils in d C And in

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New York and elsewhere are the biggest wackadoos imaginable. They're

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not you know, they're left of anything you can imagine.

478
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They don't care about good governance at all. So this

479
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is like when in the nineties it got so bad

480
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that Giuliani could win, and he could only win incidentally

481
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because of Staten Island, which is essentially kind of a

482
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working class suburb at the time, I don't know anymore.

483
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He brought good governance to New York and the city

484
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benefited greatly. That's such a rarity. You see, the people

485
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who are governor in New York and DC. DC had

486
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a governor when I was a kid. It was a

487
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crack at crack who got caught with a was it

488
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a prostitute and doing crack and was convicted and still became.

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Speaker 2: Barry here briefly. So, Yes, Marion Barry was arrested. He

490
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was set up by the FBI. They made a person

491
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purport to be a prostitute who seduced him and then

492
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gave him crack cocaine, and then they arrested him for it.

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And it was a total like an utter set up

494
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to get him. And when I first moved to d C,

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I think he was in prison at that time for

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that crime. He famously said as he got arrested the baby,

497
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and I was thinking how it was a perfect example

498
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of how awful and corrupt DC was. Well, I lived

499
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in DC for like fifteen years, including he got out

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of prison and became mayor again, and I have totally

501
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changed my view on him. I actually think that every

502
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single mayor of d C in my lifetime has been corrupt,

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or almost every single one. Every other mayor was helping

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rich corporations like development companies, and Marion Barry was also corrupt,

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but he was helping out the people in the poorest

506
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Wards I'm not sure that's worse, and he was. There

507
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was such an honesty to the game that he was playing.

508
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I don't know. I just don't. I don't think he's

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also he survived an assassination attempt from Islam as terrorist.

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Speaker 1: No, I did not know that. I did. I should

511
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have done more research on the Marion Barry story before

512
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I brought him up. You know, he seems like a

513
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guy who benefited from the kind of favor trading that

514
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allows kind of, you know, Al Sharpton to be powerful,

515
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you know what I mean. And I don't know enough

516
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about what he did for the city, but it doesn't

517
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seem to me like he did that much for the

518
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poor people in DC, because it was a pretty bad

519
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:13,880
place for anyone who wasn't in Northwest for very very

520
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many years until gentrification, which people get mad about, but

521
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
I think it lifts the lives of a lot of

522
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people in general.

523
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say that, yes, he was shot purportedly,

524
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:29,079
it was accidentally when a group that was a breakaway

525
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from the Nation of Islam of Hanafi Muslims took hostages

526
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and overran a DC government building. I want to see

527
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in the sixties or seventies. I can't remember, and Marion

528
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:45,200
Barry was a city council member. He was nearly assassinated.

529
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He was shot near the heart, and I thought it

530
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was a Palestinian who did it, but maybe it was

531
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just an American breakaway from the Nation of Islam.

532
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's go. I have no good segue here.

533
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about we were talking about the Supreme Court,

534
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and I just wanted to also mention we had some

535
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updates with the court happening on the sort of the

536
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,119
judicial coup of the of the second Trump administration. So

537
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the first Trump administration, we saw the effort to thwart

538
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it with a bureaucratic coup and with leaks from the bureaucracy,

539
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and you know the Russia collusion hoax, which the FBI

540
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kind of cooked up or quickly took over from Hillary Clinton.

541
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And they did not succeed, although they really came pretty

542
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:39,960
close to succeeding and taking out President Trump and the

543
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first administration. So the second administration, the Trump team now

544
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is like, oh, we totally get how the administrative state works,

545
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and we are going to be taking it on much

546
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more vigorously. And a bunch of Democrat judges have been

547
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just thwarting it at every turn. And there was a

548
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case that happened this weekend where Justice Alito and Justice

549
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,839
Thomas dissented. It's I think it's possible there were more

550
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,839
people in the who didn't go along with the court,

551
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but they were the two to do it by name.

552
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And Justice Alito wrote a dissent from a decision made

553
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by the Court which was about a group of people

554
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who were slated for deportation. And we keep on being

555
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,559
told that the Supreme Court, it's not that these Justices

556
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,759
Amy Cony Barrett and John Roberts are bad. They just

557
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
really want to let things work their way through the

558
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,599
lower courts and they don't want they want to exhibit

559
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,960
a type of judicial restraint. And so that's what's going on. Well,

560
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here you had a case that had not even come

561
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
close to cooking through the courts, where the Supreme Court

562
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intervenes and they kind of invent things that would normally

563
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take place through the lower courts. So they say there's

564
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a putative class of people that we will put a

565
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stay on their deportations when the lower court it's the

566
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,279
lower like the case hadn't even claimed that there was

567
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a class of people. They were just doing it for

568
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:10,240
few of the individuals that were slated for deportation. And

569
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did you read Justice Alito's.

570
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Speaker 1: Dissent or No, I know, I was very busy last

571
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few days, so I didn't take a deep eye on this.

572
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Speaker 2: Just the very last end, the last sentence, he says,

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in some literally in the middle of the night, the

574
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Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the

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lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the

576
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opposing party. In other words, they never heard from the

577
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Trump team before ruling on this within eight hours of

578
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:45,279
receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order,

579
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and without providing any explanation for its order. I mean,

580
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,720
it's just that's Alito saying, y'all are smoking crack like

581
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:57,440
Marion Barry right now. And it's I mean, it's just

582
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,799
it's appalling how this Supreme Court cannot be trusted here.

583
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,480
They're just like, when it hurts Trump, they're like, we'll

584
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,200
just let it work through our way through the courts.

585
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,160
When it hurts Trump, they say, okay, we're going to

586
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make it ruling right now to kind of thwart Trump.

587
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And they don't realize, because I honestly don't think John

588
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,519
Roberts is that smart. I mean, he's clearly like not

589
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,559
an idiot, but he's when it comes to politics, he

590
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,960
might be the stupidest politician we've ever seen. He thinks

591
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,319
he's doing stuff to preserve the integrity of the court,

592
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,559
maybe or maybe it's like I don't even I cannot

593
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:34,359
even fathom what he thinks he's doing. But he's causing

594
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680
people to lose trust in the judicial branch on a

595
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,240
major scale, and I'm worried about it. I'm really worried

596
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about what John Roberts and some other weak justices are

597
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doing to the country.

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough to say what I think of

599
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,160
what happened there are from what's happened so far, with

600
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,279
all these judicial interventions, I think quite often they're obviously

601
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,240
part isan and ridiculous. Sometimes I don't think that, you know,

602
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,960
I can't. I don't want to go through Maybe we

603
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,119
go through them next week. I worry about the Alien

604
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,639
Enemies Act. I don't even know how it's constitutional, honestly,

605
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,639
to just it seems like there's just too much unilateral

606
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,679
power for the executive to do that. Branch to do that.

607
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,519
But I also understand that, let me put it this way,

608
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,519
the Democrats allowed broke the law and allowed this country

609
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,800
to be overrun by legal immigrants, some of them using

610
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,119
a shortcut to stay here in all ways, and they've

611
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,679
created this problem that can only it's very difficult to

612
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,199
fix and to go through all the due process that

613
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,079
you want, let's say, and to fix it, because it

614
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,840
just overwhelms the system. Right, So I understand why the

615
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,599
administration is doing it. Slightly worried about it because I

616
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000
just don't feel like this is a you know, an

617
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,599
invading army. It is an invasion of a sort, but

618
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,039
it is not why that law was passed, you know.

619
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,519
It just seems like it's a misuse of that law.

620
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,280
That's you know, I don't have any deep legal reasoning

621
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,800
for this. This is just my sort of top topical

622
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,039
feeling on it, you know what I mean.

623
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm going to think you already just said

624
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,039
the most important part. There was zero due process when

625
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,000
the regime. When the elites brought in willingly, whether it's

626
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:27,760
the Wall Street Journal or Joe Biden or whoever loved

627
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,400
having illegal immigration, nobody followed due process. Nobody followed rule

628
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440
of law. They said, we don't care about the laws

629
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,159
that govern this country. We don't care about the people.

630
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,519
We don't care about how this affects average Americans who

631
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,960
have to pay for the illegals overrunning their schools or

632
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,760
their healthcare systems, or their you know, whatever is happening.

633
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
We do not care about these people. We want depressed

634
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,280
wages for the lower and lower middle classes, and so

635
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,599
we will bring in in complete violation and a rule

636
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:03,880
of law, all these people with zero due process, and

637
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,559
the moment you vote for someone who says they're going

638
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,280
to do something about it, then we will falsely claim

639
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,000
that we care about due process. We will falsely claim

640
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,320
we will lie through our teeth and say that we

641
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440
care about rule of law, and we will do whatever

642
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,360
it takes to thwart the American people from having a

643
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,760
country that they voted for. And then they say they

644
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,760
have the audacity to say, you have to care about

645
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239
the constitution and so there's nothing you can do. You

646
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,119
get four hundred years to deport these people, because that's

647
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,840
how long it will take. If starting today, we move

648
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,159
everybody through the system as fast as we can. There

649
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:36,679
are you happy that's what due process is. That's what

650
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,360
rule of law is. And I'm just like, screw you.

651
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,960
This is ridiculous, and I these people never for a

652
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,679
minute cared about rule of law. You know, when John

653
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Eastman was getting disbarred and going through horrific legal trauma,

654
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,840
one of our greatest constitutional scholars, because he accurately, by

655
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,559
the way, talked about ways to oppose the results of

656
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,639
the twenty twenty election, as you know, certified by the states.

657
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,519
By the way, he was so right they had to

658
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,599
change the law because they were like conceding that he

659
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,320
was right. And his punishment for providing this legal this

660
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:17,760
legal advice was disbarment and arrest and all sorts of

661
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,760
horrible things. Did one of these people, left or right

662
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,920
speak out on behalf of him? Did one person who

663
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,800
the Free Press just featured as supposed constitutional scholars who

664
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,320
all agree that it's Trump that's the problem and everyone

665
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,199
else is just lovely. Did one of them speak out

666
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,119
on behalf of John Eastmith or any of the other

667
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:41,719
people whose lives were destroyed by people using and abusing

668
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,199
the courts to go after political enemies. And unless they did,

669
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,360
and they didn't, I don't want to hear a word they.

670
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Have to say, well, I understand what you're saying, and

671
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,559
but you know, those are separate issues. I agree that

672
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their hypocrites and all of that. And I think there

673
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,920
are some people probably spoke after both, that have a

674
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,199
case to make that this is a compounding problem that

675
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:10,960
if we, you know, keep ignoring the norms and process

676
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,280
and so on. And again, it's not anything specific, and

677
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,079
we can talk about that another time. That you just

678
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,800
have anarchy and you just have presidents who come in,

679
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,199
do what they want, leave and the other president comes

680
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,719
in does what he wants. Congress doesn't do anything like

681
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,840
if we want to change, if we want to help,

682
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
if things were perfect and we really wanted to deal

683
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,639
with this problem in a way and help Donald Trump

684
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:36,400
deal with this problem, Congress should pass a law that

685
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:41,880
allowed him to do that. I'm not naive it's not

686
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,119
going to happen, you know, I don't know. I'd like

687
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,719
to throw my hands up. I mean, I don't know.

688
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,800
You have a good point. You know, when people break

689
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,760
the law and then all of a sudden they expect

690
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,519
you to, you know, be diligent and make sure everyone's

691
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:58,079
due process rights are met. It's a very difficult situation.

692
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:59,440
So I don't know what to say. I just feel

693
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,440
like things are, you know, and let's talk about it.

694
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:06,559
Let's talk about something else for a second, and then

695
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,039
we'll bring it back this because I have something else

696
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:11,559
to say. Let's talk about van Senator Chris van Holnk

697
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,480
going down to L Salvator. He's not the only one

698
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,320
bunch of congressmen went. They went. They did not go

699
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,760
to meet a democratic political dissident and bring them at home.

700
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
They went down to meet someone who is an alleged

701
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,280
was a MS thirteen gang banger, right, maybe a wife beater,

702
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:35,920
but also, without dispute, an illegal immigrant in this country

703
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:42,119
who had a deportation order against him. Right. So there's

704
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:49,679
a stark difference between arguing for due process domestically and

705
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,000
making someone like this a hero. And I think most

706
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,719
American people, I think it's completely tone dev and most

707
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
American people will be like, these are the kind of

708
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,480
people you want to bring back through this country who

709
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:06,119
are illegally here, Marilyn Man, you know, from El Salvador

710
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or whatever. So I think Democrats are approaching like they

711
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,079
don't really care about due process. They spent a decade

712
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:19,519
destroying separation of power abusing executive of power. So they're

713
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,760
not credible on this, and the way they approach it

714
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,360
tells me that they're even less credible than people might

715
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think there is you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Elon Musk was talking about this during the last

717
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,519
election when he was addressing the topic of illegal immigration.

718
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,239
I think now most people realize this, but congressional districts

719
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,280
are allocated not according to the number of American citizens

720
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,039
in a place, but just the number of people. It

721
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:47,960
is one of the ways, like one of the reasons

722
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,800
why Congress can't pass a law against illegal immigration is

723
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because illegal immigrants are a major constituency for the Democrat Party.

724
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,760
They're a massive constituency. They're the reason why Democrats have

725
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:09,199
probably like fifteen to twenty five seats that they wouldn't

726
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,159
have if you didn't count illegals as part of the

727
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:18,519
census for allocation of congressional districts. So, in a sense,

728
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Chris van Holland does view the wife abusing illegal immigrant

729
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,519
gangbanger as one of his key constituents because he is like,

730
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,000
I'm not saying for the Senate, you know, for the Senate,

731
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:37,320
but for the Democrat control of whatever seats it has

732
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,199
in the House. It's huge.

733
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Speaker 1: Well, I should mention separately as well, that we're just

734
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:50,400
talking about what it's hard not to think that Democrats

735
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,679
are purposely overwhelmed the system with illegal immigrants, you know,

736
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,719
not just that it was incompetence or whatever because Donald

737
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,039
Trump without it. You remember, it was less than a

738
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,960
year ago that Democrats and some Republicans tried to pass

739
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,559
some kind of immigration border bill and then you know,

740
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,480
supposedly Donald Trump called people and they didn't vote for it,

741
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:13,280
and Democrats tried to blame Republicans for not shutting down

742
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,840
the border. Donald Trump has has been effectively shut down

743
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,320
that border, and within a few months in March, I

744
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,480
believe it was like ninety five percent below border crossings

745
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,880
from the year you know before, so a huge drop.

746
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,000
So obviously can be done. And obviously he's done it,

747
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,039
and I think a lot of American people are going

748
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:36,760
to be very happy about that. So let's talk about

749
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,719
you know, so obviously it can be done. Secondly, this

750
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,559
thing where it's like virtually you know, the Maryland Man thing,

751
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,239
where every outlet calls Garcia a Maryland Man even though

752
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,000
he's an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. They make no

753
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:57,719
real distinction between illegal immigration and regular immigration. And you know,

754
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:01,039
it's clear in the way that they're eating Garcia and

755
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:04,599
others like him so Venezuelan gangbangers. Now, I'm not saying

756
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,960
we should just throw someone into an El Salvador in prison.

757
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440
I think it's inhumane to do that to an innocent person.

758
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:12,639
I don't know if Garcia is innocent or not, but

759
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,920
that's a different argument than what they're making. I don't know.

760
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,599
I guess I just want to say that I am

761
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,599
not like Democrats who think who protect the man and

762
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:24,800
not the ideal? I guess is what I'm saying in

763
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920
this argument, and I think it's I think it's going

764
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,519
to be devastating for them politically. It's like, ma, you know,

765
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:36,320
the Kilmar Garcia is their hero, Mahmud Khalil is their hero.

766
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,000
You know, Like, what are they even doing? Like what

767
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,079
are they doing?

768
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think that Trump and the Republicans

769
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,079
frequently benefit from the both parties benefit from the idiocy

770
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,679
of their opponents. But like, I don't know much about

771
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,760
life or politics, but when you've just had a shellacking

772
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:58,880
in a presidential election, when you had every single advantage

773
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:01,800
known to me, in kind, and you lost, and you

774
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,719
lost even the popular vote, which Democrats have such a

775
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,679
huge advantage on winning, you know, even if they don't

776
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,400
win the electoral college vote, the one that matters. You

777
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,440
would think that you would. And one of the major

778
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,880
issues was illegal immigration and the violence caused by illegal immigrants,

779
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,000
the murders, the human trafficking, like all the problems on

780
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,039
the system, that you would not make your main effort

781
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:36,000
against Trump to be defending the people who do those things.

782
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean these people. What was I'm sorry I forgot

783
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,880
her name. I think it's Rachel Moran. Was the name

784
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,880
of the woman who was murdered by an El Salvadorian

785
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,159
like twenty twenty three and illegal. Van Holland did mention her.

786
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
He doesn't talk about the Americans held hostage by Hamas

787
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,239
or the Americans held hostage by Venezuelans like so kill

788
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,199
mar Garcia is the most important person for him, not

789
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,719
American citizens who suffer because of the lawlessness.

790
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:09,039
Speaker 2: You know, Rachel morn however you say her name she was.

791
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,320
She was a Maryland woman, yeah, a legal citizen. And

792
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,719
Chris van Holland I don't think ever talked to her

793
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,280
family or cared or mentioned your name or like did

794
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,119
anything about it.

795
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,559
Speaker 1: So can I just say this, as far as you said,

796
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:28,199
you know, legal immigration depresses salaries and so forth, I

797
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:30,119
think that's somewhat debatable. But let me just say this.

798
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,800
It's bad for illegal immigrants to not have the law

799
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,559
on their side, for instance, where people like kilmar Garcia

800
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,880
maybe will abuse them and they have no place to

801
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,199
go where This is just inhumane. The entire situation of

802
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,480
people traveling through the desert coming in here, you know how,

803
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:48,599
living in the shadows. I know that we don't have

804
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,559
much A lot of people are angry about it. They

805
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:53,239
don't have much compassion for these people. I have compassion

806
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,320
for them, but I think that it's wrong to incentivize

807
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,159
them to come here and then to live these kinds

808
00:45:58,159 --> 00:45:59,719
of lives. We have to have an orderly way to

809
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,639
do that. And I've made this argument quite often that

810
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:04,880
the more we allow this kind of lawlessness to go

811
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,880
on with immigration and illegal immigration, the more American people

812
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,159
are going to turn against regular immigration, which I think

813
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,920
is a good thing. And you know, I think democrats

814
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,599
hurt the cause and it's in you know, so you know,

815
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:21,840
I just I don't understand what they're doing with this.

816
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,639
I think Corey it's his name, Booker is going down

817
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:33,039
there as well, so that should be great for Oh yeah,

818
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,599
so think about this, right, So the Democrats got shellacked, right,

819
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:42,159
I think it's because they are abnormal. They are obsessed

820
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,639
with things that don't matter to most people, or are

821
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:47,800
the wrong side of things that matter, people having biological

822
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,559
men playing in women's sports. Like all their issues are stupid.

823
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,679
So who do they turn to? David Hogg, the anti

824
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,360
gun fanatic, is now with the DNC or whatever. It's

825
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,320
AOC raising the most money. It's her and Sanders touring

826
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440
the country with two big, giant crowds. You know what

827
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:08,000
I mean, it's going. It's kilmar Garcia, it's Mahmud Khalil.

828
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,159
I just don't understand how they think they're going. Like

829
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,360
Trump had this tariff rollout, maybe we disagree on it.

830
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,719
I think it was a disastrously rolled out and they

831
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,320
couldn't even take any advantage of that at all. Yeah.

832
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: I actually find that kind of confusing because all of

833
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:26,119
their interests. I mean, first of all, that would be

834
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,880
a more politically popular line of attack for them. Right.

835
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,119
Polling shows that Americans are skeptical of Trump's tariff strategy.

836
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:39,079
They are completely controlled by all the corporations, so their

837
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,599
actual money to interests would love for them to be

838
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:44,360
talking and fighting the tariffs. And I don't understand what

839
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,639
they're doing. I don't know. I just don't get it.

840
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: But there, I mean, all of them are four tariffs.

841
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:56,119
They like economic status control, and Bernie Sanders loves tariffs.

842
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,199
Elizabeth Warren loves tariffs. It's very difficult for to make

843
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,039
an argument against some thing that they've supported consistently for

844
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:02,880
twenty years.

845
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not the nineteen eighties anymore. And

846
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,119
the big corporations are all with the Democrats.

847
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,519
Speaker 1: So you keep saying that like a lot of big

848
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:14,280
corporations love tariffs. I mean it helps them secure markets.

849
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,679
They don't have to compete a bent against Japanese companies

850
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,719
or Chinese companies or whoever. I mean. I think it's

851
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,199
a far more complicated issue anyway. I don't get into

852
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,760
the tariff thing again. Let's talk about this again, no

853
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,679
segue at all. Bill Owens is the name of like

854
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,679
the show runner for I like to call the show

855
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,920
runner for sixty minutes. I don't know much about him.

856
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,719
He's been there a while, but he quit now he

857
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,840
says he's lost control journalistic control. They're one of the worst.

858
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,199
I mean they were once when I was a kid,

859
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,039
they were legendary. Like you watched sixty Minutes, you trusted

860
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,079
what they told you. They had all kinds of interesting

861
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:54,000
journalistic efforts that But lately, I mean they've been I

862
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,280
think one of the worst, most activist leftist you know

863
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,320
shows going. Why did he quit him? What do you think?

864
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,960
What do you think it means? Like, what's happening?

865
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,159
Speaker 2: I don't actually understand why he quit. He said it

866
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:15,199
was somehow related to Trump suing them or something. Actually,

867
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,480
do you know what the lawsuit is for?

868
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: It isn't it had to do with Kamala Harris's interview

869
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,480
where they want the full they want CBS I think

870
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:29,400
to release the full. Does it have to do with

871
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,039
that suit, because I think they gave in on that.

872
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so Trump is suing them over their interview

873
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:39,599
with Kamala Harris, and I first of all think that's

874
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:43,800
a very interesting situation that happened during the middle of

875
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,840
the campaign. So, as you noted, sixty Minutes used to

876
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,239
be known as something of a news breaking show. They

877
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,280
were even they even had like a positive reputation among

878
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,920
the American people for news. They would, you know, they

879
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,199
were the ones that would say like, oh, here's a

880
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,119
massive problem with airbags and cars or you know whatever.

881
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:04,000
I don't know what the things.

882
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: It would be like the television equivalent of a Time

883
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,400
magazine or a magazine show kind of you know what

884
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,079
I mean. I would say, yeah, but they.

885
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: Would break news. They would expose corporate malfeasance. You know,

886
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,280
it was like a real thing. Now. They were always biased,

887
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,880
but the bias became untenable at some point. And I

888
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,679
always think of the interview they did. I think of

889
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:29,400
an interview that they did with Donald Trump, and then

890
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,639
I think of what they did to Ron DeSantis. So

891
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:37,480
with Donald Trump, you had Leslie Stall claiming that the

892
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:42,079
story about Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation and they

893
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,760
weren't allowed to talk about it because at sixty minutes

894
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,280
they cared about the facts. So she's like fighting with

895
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,400
Donald Trump, just yelling at him, just screaming at him,

896
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:55,440
just being like crazy with him, and he releases the

897
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:57,960
video of it, and she seems to think it makes

898
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,519
her look good. She's just being like a ranged partisan

899
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:06,039
activists with no grasp of reality. And because of how

900
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,559
horrific that interview went in twenty twenty, Trump just didn't

901
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:12,599
even bother doing an interview with them. In twenty twenty four.

902
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,320
There was also the situation where they just where they

903
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,639
were worried that the front runner for the Republican nomination

904
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:23,159
in twenty twenty four was Ron DeSantis, So they started

905
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:25,880
going to war against Ron de Santis. Do you remember

906
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,599
this where they claimed that he had engaged in nefarious

907
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:33,679
activity because he was allowing what's that big grocery chain

908
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,480
down in Florida. It's like publics or.

909
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: Something, publics.

910
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:42,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so he was rewarding a donor by having

911
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:45,760
them distribute the vaccine shot and instead it turned out

912
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,039
that it was just publics that they give to all

913
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:52,440
politicians that they're also the most efficient means by which

914
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,239
to distribute the COVID vaccine.

915
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: Well, even in Florida, Democrats were like, are you insane?

916
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Like Pupebubly, everyone loves public, so everyone goes to public.

917
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember it hit that very effective press

918
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:08,880
person that Ron DeSantis has, Christina Pouchchaw, that she kind

919
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,440
of like went to war with them over that, and

920
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,679
she was totally right. Well, then you hit twenty twenty

921
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,639
four and they do an interview with Kamala Harris, who's

922
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,360
nobody's idea of a particularly smart lady, right, and they

923
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,880
edited they just did like a really gentle edit of

924
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,039
her where they not gentle, I mean they did a

925
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:33,480
really intense edit of her interview so that she seemed

926
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:35,920
much more competent. So they kind of did the opposite

927
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,320
of what they did with Donald Trump in twenty twenty.

928
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,400
They asked very easy questions. When she would ramble with

929
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,840
her typical word salad, they would turn it into just

930
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,760
like the most beautiful, coherent answer through deceptive editing, and

931
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,039
just like nip and tuck here, nip and tuck there,

932
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,840
take out the two minute prelude that made no sense.

933
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,760
So how you edit an interview is one of the

934
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,119
most malicious ways that our corporate media are engaged in

935
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,559
bias and deception. So if you're a Republican, they take

936
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:13,079
the worst part of your answer, they make it seem

937
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,559
like you're stuttering or do you remember when who's that

938
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:22,159
Katie or Katie Couric where she deceptively edited in silence

939
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:25,920
to make it seem like she'd stumped some Second Amendment supporters.

940
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,480
That was just a complete deception.

941
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: And the guy, if he had not recorded it, we

942
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,360
wouldn't have known that that happened.

943
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes, so the Kamala Harris edit, you know, they did

944
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,039
end up releasing the whole video and people were like, oh, well,

945
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,079
technically the answers that were given were in response to

946
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,800
the questions that were given. It's like, yeah, by doing

947
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,280
the most generous, lovely edit of a person ever known

948
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:57,360
to mankind. Interestingly, I have heard from some folks with

949
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,559
knowledge that in do you remember in twenty twenty three,

950
00:54:03,079 --> 00:54:08,239
the same week that Robert her interviewed Biden and found

951
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,519
him incompetent, he did an interview with sixty minutes and

952
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:18,679
they released that video and it was apparently another monster edit,

953
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,199
just like the Kamala Harris one. They kind of give

954
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,119
an introduction at the beginning where they're like, it had

955
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:29,639
been a rough week on President Biden, and when he's tired,

956
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,800
he sometimes stutters. Remember how that was the answer for uttering? Yeah, yeah,

957
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,519
So they kind of explain he's not at his top form.

958
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:41,599
But it's all for totally understandable reasons because you know,

959
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,480
it was a rough week with the Robert her you

960
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:48,760
know stuff. And it's just another point to mention when

961
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,559
a Republican is interviewed by sixty Minutes or another deceitful

962
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:57,639
propaganda publication or media outlet, they never get the generosity

963
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,920
of saying okay. So it turns out that Democrats had

964
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,639
engaged in lawfair against this person to the point that

965
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,519
any other human in history would have broken. But he's

966
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:09,920
keeping a positive attitude. But he's like a little testy

967
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,559
with us. Like nobody ever says anything like that with

968
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:18,719
Donald Trump. Nobody ever explains or provides context that helps

969
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,840
them look better. In fact, they usually add context that

970
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,400
makes them look worse anyway. So yes, Bill Owens departs

971
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,920
and says that he feels like journalistically constrained because because

972
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,239
people are on top, because his corporate overloads are on

973
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,400
top of him because of the lawsuit. I think the

974
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,000
corporate overlords are on top of him because of the lawsuit,

975
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:44,639
because they could cause the entire enterprise to come crashing

976
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,079
down through their propaganda, and so they're probably being like, hey,

977
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,480
are you sure you wanted to run this Democrat propaganda again?

978
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,239
Bill Owens, and he views that as a loss of

979
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,239
his journalistic freedom because for him, journalism is the complete

980
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
regurgitation and recitation of Democrat talking points.

981
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm slightly confused by the lawsuit, though, What right does

982
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,599
the government to say, have to say or sue you.

983
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,159
Actually it's a civil suit, but you know, to say

984
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,440
you can't be biased, or you must give us this

985
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:20,559
whole interview, or I mean, I think their reputational their

986
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:23,079
reputation will be destroyed anyway, so no one will trust

987
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:25,480
CBS News. I think that's punishment enough. But I just

988
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,280
don't understand what are we going to do now, sue

989
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,440
every time we think someone has a poorly unless they're

990
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,000
misrepresenting someone and just you know, hurting their earnings, potential

991
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,800
or whatever. Just it seems like a weird suit to me.

992
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,599
Speaker 2: So there are Since you care so much about rule

993
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:42,719
of law, I know you care so deeply about the

994
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,679
fact that there are regulations and laws governing the news

995
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:56,559
handling of elections and campaigns, and our corporate media have

996
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:01,960
engaged in billions of dollars of inkind contributions to the

997
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,559
Democrat Party and that is a violation of some of

998
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:14,440
these laws and regulations governing fair treatment equal to public

999
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,480
airwaves or balance. Yeah, on the airwaves that they are

1000
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:23,440
granted from the FCC. So yeah, but I'm not sure

1001
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,960
I support those laws myself.

1002
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,639
Speaker 1: It just seems so yeah, it just seems ripe for

1003
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:30,719
abuse in some way.

1004
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: You know, again, David, you have a country where people

1005
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,119
are saying, we're sick of the way the regime is

1006
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,679
handling things, this importation of illegal immigrants, the pushing of

1007
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,000
radical ideology on our children. But because of these gifts

1008
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:48,239
that they have through the administrative state, for instance, the

1009
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:53,039
ability to control every major media outlet to their ends

1010
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,280
and to give again billions of dollars of in kind contributions.

1011
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,920
It's not just on the campaigns and elections themselves. It's

1012
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,239
about all the issues supporting the campaigns and elections, like

1013
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:08,440
the idea that we ever treated the lie that men

1014
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:11,599
can become women if they have a sexual fetish that

1015
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:15,039
makes them want to become women. That's insane, and yet

1016
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:19,360
our corporate media pushed it with the most beautiful language

1017
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,320
to make it seem like you were a monster if

1018
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,480
you disagreed with it, and they were so effective that

1019
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:25,840
they got Neil Gorsich to go along with it at

1020
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,679
the Supreme Court in the Bostock ruling, where he says

1021
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,719
the Civil Rights Act actually protects gender ideology, which is

1022
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,400
such a delusional, embarrassing mistake from an otherwise pretty great justice.

1023
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:44,960
Our media deceive through every word choice they make, and

1024
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:49,440
there's the amount of control that they have given to

1025
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,440
the Democrat Party to ruin people's lives as a result

1026
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,480
of this, Like, you can't fight back, you can't pass

1027
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:58,920
laws in Congress because of all of these unfair advantages

1028
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,840
that they have been through elite control of our institutions,

1029
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:09,679
and you have to fight back some way.

1030
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:11,719
Speaker 1: We have to fight back some way. I just, you know,

1031
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,679
and I agree with everything you said, so you know,

1032
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,760
I've been writing about it for years. I just I

1033
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,199
don't want the state to do it. I want to

1034
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:20,079
somehow get the state out of it, to make them

1035
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:24,000
stand on their own two feet, you know. So I

1036
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,320
guess the last topic we we talked about talking about

1037
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,920
was RFK Junior promise to institute some bands of completely

1038
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,639
harmless food dies because he thinks everything is environmental in

1039
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:41,960
the world. And I saw Nancy Mace, you know, because

1040
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:47,039
everyone is just in this. I don't know they're just demagogues,

1041
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:50,320
I guess. But she is out there saying, let's get

1042
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,519
chemicals out of all our foods. Does do people realize

1043
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:55,239
that if we did that, we would have no shelf

1044
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,199
stable foods and that everything would rot on your shelves,

1045
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:03,880
like we have this ref lex of anti chemical you know, angst.

1046
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,239
I guess you'd call it, which is so overblown. It's

1047
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,800
usually been a left wing thing, but now, obviously with

1048
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,679
Rfkid Junior, it's become a right wing thing. So I

1049
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,079
don't know. What do you have to say about it?

1050
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:16,760
How do you feel?

1051
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:21,079
Speaker 2: Oh, it's weird.

1052
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: We argued about this before, but now we're on air, you.

1053
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,159
Speaker 2: Can argue, well, I don't remember arguing with you.

1054
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:30,039
Speaker 1: About it, but lightly, slightly, I.

1055
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,079
Speaker 2: Don't agree that concern about the food supply is a

1056
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:36,800
left wing concern. I do, or sorry I should say,

1057
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,800
I know that it has been a left wing concern,

1058
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,119
but the people in my life who are right wing

1059
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:44,880
have also always been concerned about it. I remember my godmother,

1060
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,159
who grew up on like a farm in North Dakota,

1061
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:50,719
South Dakota. She would hate if I didn't know the

1062
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,760
answer to this. Actually, she used to talk about the

1063
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,440
importance of having food and food and produce that were

1064
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,639
locally obtained, and how she felt like that was a

1065
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:07,840
much better way to health than to have things imported

1066
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,159
from far away with tons of pesticides, and a lot

1067
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:13,519
of the way that wheat was grown that was so

1068
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,679
resistant to pesticides was actually like not great for the

1069
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:21,239
human body. And she's total right winger. And I just

1070
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,360
remember that being a big issue in Colorado as well,

1071
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:32,360
where I grew up, where people cared about genetic modification, pesticides,

1072
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:36,360
locally grown produce, and so it's always had a weird

1073
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,679
mixture of people. And then I think most notably you

1074
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,239
have it in the twenty twenty four election where the neocons,

1075
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,599
led by Liz Cheney move openly to the Democrat Party

1076
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:50,719
and the Democrats make that's you know, we're talking about

1077
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,079
all the wise decisions made by Democrats recently, but that's

1078
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:57,280
their closing argument is if you vote for Kamala Harris,

1079
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,599
you will get Liz Cheney foreign policy. And they think

1080
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:03,360
that's going to be very persuasive. And then meanwhile, Donald Trump,

1081
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,039
through RFK, brings in this Maha wing that is massive,

1082
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,719
like a massive in terms of building a constituency group

1083
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:17,639
of people that helps ensure the winning of you know,

1084
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,760
tons of votes in states that matter, and just also

1085
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,880
like a general mood shift in the country. And so

1086
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,760
I think a lot of parents are concerned. They look

1087
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,199
at the weight of people, you know, they look at

1088
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:34,760
the health of their children, and they compare it to

1089
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,800
what they had growing up, or what their parents had

1090
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,280
growing up, and they recognize that with all of the

1091
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,800
wealth and abundance of food and all the lack of

1092
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,679
want that we have, all of which are really beautiful things,

1093
01:02:48,039 --> 01:02:51,239
that there are some downsides to the food supply that

1094
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,559
make people wonder, you know, like do we need all

1095
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:58,599
these chemicals? And these food dies are not adding to

1096
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:01,559
the taste of the product, not adding to They're not

1097
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,559
adding any nutritional value, and they have been linked to

1098
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,079
you know, they are percinogens that if you have enough

1099
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:11,719
of them, if you're a small person, can cause problems.

1100
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,039
And so I don't really I don't really have a

1101
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,000
problem with removing them, and I in fact wish that

1102
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:21,119
we would all move to like a healthier food supply

1103
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:23,800
and more local growth.

1104
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:28,519
Speaker 1: Well, you said so much that upset me. I don't

1105
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,480
even know where to start. So I don't want to

1106
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,119
get into a big argument about this right.

1107
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,079
Speaker 2: Now, because you're supposed to get in a fight.

1108
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:41,239
Speaker 1: I know. I mean the very idea that, first of all,

1109
01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:43,239
I reject the idea that he brought in this big,

1110
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,559
massive amount of people. I think Donald Trump wins every

1111
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:49,639
single state he won without our fk this idea that

1112
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,239
there is no evidence that there's some big contingency that

1113
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,920
cares so much about dies in our cereal that they

1114
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,559
would have voted for Democrats otherwise, or stayed home and

1115
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:01,320
not voted for Donald Trump. I don't see that in

1116
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,519
any kind of pulling anywhere. I mean, it feels good

1117
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,039
to say, but I just don't buy it. Now. I'm

1118
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:11,440
not going to say that people don't many conservatives or

1119
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:17,639
sort of newer type conservatives or populists don't romanticize what

1120
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,760
food was when they were growing up and so on.

1121
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,800
But there's also no evidence. Let me tell you this.

1122
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,119
You know why a lot of people are fat and

1123
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,639
these days is because they eat a lot that they

1124
01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:30,559
shouldn't eat, and parents have responsibility not to feed their

1125
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:34,199
kids junk. The chemicals you might not like them, are

1126
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:36,679
not the reason. Sugar. There's a lot more evidence that

1127
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,719
sugar is worse for your child and worse for your

1128
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,280
health than any die that's going to be banned, You

1129
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,119
know what I mean? These are just kind of distractions

1130
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:47,960
from a guy who thinks every chemical is going to

1131
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:51,360
kill you. His autism stuff last week, I don't know

1132
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,880
if we talked about it where he said he's going

1133
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,719
to figure out we're going to figure out what causes

1134
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,639
autism by September, as if no one has ever looked

1135
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,840
into this ever, like there aren't forty men your studies

1136
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:07,000
looking into this is and preemptively saying that it's going

1137
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,239
to be an environmental cause, which he does not know,

1138
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,320
which is anti science to say because we don't know

1139
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:15,920
if it's genetic. There is actually evidence that autism starts

1140
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,039
in the womb and could be genetic. It's just, you know,

1141
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:25,400
just folds and into the rest of his complete wackery.

1142
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,920
And I am no cabinet person upsets me more. In government,

1143
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:35,119
he normalizes the most nonsensical things, and watching everyone jump

1144
01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:39,679
on board like there are cereals with dies they're making

1145
01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:43,320
our kids unhealthy is just nonsense. What's making your kids

1146
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,800
unhealthy is a sugar level in that cereal, and you

1147
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,000
have a million choices. You don't have to buy those cereals.

1148
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,400
Like you're saying, oh, we should do this and we

1149
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,599
should do that. That seems very nanistic to me. What

1150
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:56,280
do you mean we should do that? You can do

1151
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,199
whatever you want, and I can do whatever I want.

1152
01:05:58,199 --> 01:05:59,760
We have a lot of choices in this country. Want

1153
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,239
to buy organic, you want to buy locally sourced, all

1154
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:06,320
of that's available to you already.

1155
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't disagree with that. Actually, I wish people

1156
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,000
would just make different decisions.

1157
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,519
Speaker 1: I am going to make you anyone healthy again. You

1158
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:17,719
have to make yourself healthy. There's no other way to

1159
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,119
do it.

1160
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:25,159
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's also you can you can idealize

1161
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:29,880
the ease with which that happens, and the difficulty.

1162
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:32,719
Speaker 1: I have kids. It's not I'm not idealized. It's really hard.

1163
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,760
It's really hard to go in the supermarket where you

1164
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,679
have cupcakes and cakes and even the crackers will have

1165
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:41,440
sugar in them, like and it's just like this cornicle.

1166
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:43,840
It's it's we have everything. I think our problem is

1167
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,519
we're too wealthy, right, we have too much?

1168
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,719
Speaker 2: My gosh, that's what you always get mad at people

1169
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,719
saying what they're really upset about they want us to

1170
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:53,360
be poorer.

1171
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there are people who want us

1172
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:58,440
to be poorer. I don't mean that. Again, I don't

1173
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,360
mean that like I want to punish the populace. I

1174
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,960
think they think we have too many choices in the world.

1175
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: I have something that is embarrassing that I just am

1176
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:11,360
going to admit that I feel it, which is for

1177
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,719
a really long time. Okay. So I had this libertarian

1178
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,239
background where I cared about religious liberty more than anything,

1179
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,559
and there were all these libertarians who cared about like

1180
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:26,199
transsexual fetishes or prostitution or drug use, and I didn't

1181
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,800
love their moral choices, but I kind of thought this

1182
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,559
was the ship I was on, and if I defended

1183
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,960
drug legalization, that when push came to shop, they would

1184
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:38,639
defend religious liberty, right, Yeah, And that it was all

1185
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:44,159
part of this like coherent philosophy. And then the big

1186
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:47,760
battles over RIFRA happened in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen,

1187
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:51,760
and thus began my disillusion with libertarians. I realized they

1188
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,559
were nowhere to be found. They were complete and utter

1189
01:07:54,719 --> 01:08:00,719
losers who in fact did nothing to support regious liberty

1190
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:04,360
or I remember when the Brendan Iike situation happened, and

1191
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,679
they were nowhere to be found in speaking out against

1192
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,360
what was happening to him over his support of marriage

1193
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,559
as defined as a union of one man and one woman.

1194
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,119
And so that was kind of a dissolution that I had.

1195
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:23,520
There was also this like conservative establishment in Washington, DC

1196
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,319
that I was also loosely affiliated with or like it

1197
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,560
was part of the Republican Party and had to kind

1198
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,680
of vote with this ship of people that would generally

1199
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,880
protect your interests. And so one of the big things

1200
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,560
guiding that ship was large corporations and big business, and

1201
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,920
the idea was if you protect them from any regulation,

1202
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,600
then they're part of your coalition in a way that matters.

1203
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:53,399
And it turns out corporations, large corporations gave one hundred

1204
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,279
billion dollars to the Marxist BLM movement, one hundred billion

1205
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,560
dollars in reps to a movement that teaches race hatred,

1206
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,600
and they were unable to fight anything. They were the

1207
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,920
entities that were pushing against religious liberty with the Riffra

1208
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:15,279
battles of twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen, and the idea

1209
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,239
that I'm going to care that it's going to cost

1210
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:21,560
them some money to remove red dye, or that there

1211
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,880
will be problems with their ability to market sugary cereals

1212
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,560
if they don't have the same color. I just don't care.

1213
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:31,000
I have to imagine you hate what I just said.

1214
01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you's so much I should be taking notes. So,

1215
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:38,119
first of all, big businesses love regulations that helps them

1216
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,880
keep out small businesses. And this idea, first of all,

1217
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,520
that we have some kind of unfettered capitalism going on

1218
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,800
is mind boggling to me. It is simply not true.

1219
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,239
And I don't think there's anything this corporatism. The bigger

1220
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,199
the government you have, the more of it you have,

1221
01:09:55,359 --> 01:10:00,600
the more cronyism you have. I think that these people,

1222
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,880
the Republicans you're talking about, failed us because they didn't

1223
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,920
shrink government enough so that corporations should be on their own,

1224
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,560
not that they you know, that they helped big business

1225
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,760
in a good way, or you know, there's a difference

1226
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,239
between big business and capitalism. But anyway, I think it's

1227
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:22,359
a false choice. Staff to choose between saying, oh, who

1228
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:27,359
cares what happens to corporations? And you know, corporations are wonderful,

1229
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:31,800
but this thing with libertarianism. I agree with you libertarians themselves,

1230
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:34,880
and I'm sometimes called a libertarian, though I never really

1231
01:10:35,239 --> 01:10:37,680
was a libertarian because to me, I just think my

1232
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,560
position is that we should enhance freedom for individuals. It's

1233
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,239
not technically a libertarian thing, it's it's an American ideal.

1234
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:46,920
One of the first things I wrote for the Federalists,

1235
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,760
I think it was, was a long piece called in

1236
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,039
Defense of Libertarian judgmentalism, meaning you can defend a freedom

1237
01:10:53,079 --> 01:10:55,359
and say what people are doing is wrong. I think

1238
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:57,479
a lot of the DC type of libertarians are probably

1239
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,199
talking about don't do that. They won't. They are not

1240
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:05,159
just libertarians, they're libertines. They don't care about those sort

1241
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:09,880
of moral stuff that goes on. But when you say,

1242
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:14,319
when people say, oh, they call anything that is not

1243
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:19,600
statist libertarian these days, right, they have no limiting principles.

1244
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,640
Once you say that, what are your limiting principles for

1245
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,119
how government can interject? I don't care about food dies,

1246
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:27,359
take food dies out, make everything purple and gray. I

1247
01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:30,479
don't really care. But I do care that a cabinet

1248
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:37,199
official can you unilaterally just tell the entire you know, industry, Hey,

1249
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:40,920
you can't use this anymore, even though there's piddling evidence

1250
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,760
that it actually does and has any bad effects on people.

1251
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,479
It's just his nonsense and that he's convinced a bunch

1252
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,000
of people to care about. What stops him from from

1253
01:11:50,039 --> 01:11:52,199
banning sugar? What stops him from telling us that we

1254
01:11:52,199 --> 01:11:54,199
can't put preservatives in our foods and that we have

1255
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:55,960
to change all our supply chains what?

1256
01:11:56,039 --> 01:11:58,119
Speaker 2: I kind of think those would be better things than

1257
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:01,760
removing the dyes. Care about the health of the people.

1258
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,920
Dramatic restrictions on the amount of sugar would probably be

1259
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,680
a better idea. And I also think removing all of

1260
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,000
those preservatives the ingredient list that makes no sense to

1261
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,119
you because you can't understand it. I actually would be

1262
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:17,119
all for that too, more than I would be for

1263
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:18,359
removing food dies.

1264
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,359
Speaker 1: Go buy that stuff now, make your all cereal. I mean, know,

1265
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,279
what's stopping you from having a world where you don't

1266
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:26,640
have those chemicals just because you want them to make

1267
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:29,439
you know, whatever cereal you enjoy in a different way,

1268
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,640
that's a different that's not the same thing. How do

1269
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,920
you think we find ship food to to How do

1270
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,880
you think we feed three hundred and fifty million people

1271
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,159
how do you think we need preservative? Yeah, no, we

1272
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:43,239
need industrialized farming or we're going to starve or all

1273
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:46,199
going to be subsistence farmers and dirt farms.

1274
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: Well, do you feel starvation is like really a super

1275
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,520
big risk right now for the American people?

1276
01:12:52,279 --> 01:12:55,159
Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all, because we have we

1277
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:58,319
have very very effective, productive means of making food, and

1278
01:12:58,359 --> 01:13:01,840
we have a million choices. I just I feel like

1279
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,720
no one ever says and obviously you would lose an

1280
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,199
election immediately if you said this. You know, you're overweight

1281
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:09,880
because he eat too much. It's your responsibility not to eat.

1282
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,359
I can't make you healthy. You know, it's your responsibility

1283
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:14,880
that you're not working. It's your responsibility that you're this

1284
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:17,640
or that. Like, not always, but quite often.

1285
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: What was that movie with Halle Berry where the politician

1286
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,880
says stuff honestly and Bullworth bullworthy, you can make it?

1287
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, no one's you know, everyone wants to blame

1288
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,399
the Wall Street Robert Baron for everything that's happening in

1289
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,000
their lives. I'm sorry it doesn't work that way. And

1290
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,199
I'm not saying that they're perfect then that we shouldn't

1291
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:38,640
be critical of things they do. Sometimes But this idea

1292
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,399
now that both parties have, I think, is that we're

1293
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,600
just blaming other people for our problems all the time.

1294
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,399
Speaker 2: I just had because I was ranting about the one

1295
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,640
hundred billion dollars that corporations gave to race hustlers to

1296
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,399
push racism in America, and I just want to say

1297
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:56,079
one thing about that. All these corporations are realizing there's

1298
01:13:56,119 --> 01:13:58,760
been a vibe shift and that their work on behalf

1299
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,720
of the Democrat Party not viewed so favorably by people

1300
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,680
on the right, and so they keep on having meetings

1301
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,520
with people on the right. They gave one hundred billion

1302
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:12,159
dollars to BLM and its associated groups. So the associated

1303
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:16,479
groups actually one of the big causes of BLM was transactivism,

1304
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,720
so the money went there. You could pay your reparations

1305
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:25,479
by supporting the Trevor Project, which supports the permanent sterilization

1306
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,600
of children. And again one hundred billion dollars that we

1307
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,760
know of, so it could even be much higher than that.

1308
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:33,920
Then they like to meet with people on the right

1309
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,960
and they say, so we've decided we kind of got

1310
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,720
over our skis there. Okay, you set the dollar amount.

1311
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,880
It was one hundred billion, dollars. What are you doing

1312
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,319
to support groups on the right. Oh you thought just

1313
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,159
saying that you had changed your mind would make people

1314
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:52,960
on the right start caring about corporations. Show me the

1315
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:54,399
freaking money.

1316
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,319
Speaker 1: Do you know why corporations gave money to BLM because

1317
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:02,600
the people in power were pro BLM and in their

1318
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,439
mind they want to be associated and with people who

1319
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,560
are in power, because the people in power are the

1320
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:15,279
ones who help them. So let's disconnect those two instead.

1321
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,039
Speaker 2: What the left is in power, you get a dollar,

1322
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,199
right is in power, you get nothing.

1323
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:24,239
Speaker 1: Because how about this, get your get your reparations, and

1324
01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:26,439
then after that we can do it. At some point,

1325
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,479
we need to do that.

1326
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: I want one hundred million dollars minimum for causes on

1327
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,000
the right.

1328
01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: Okay, gold choice, they need a few bucks and a hat.

1329
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,760
Give it to the right wing.

1330
01:15:37,239 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: Hunting for publications that were censored by your by your

1331
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,479
previous regime.

1332
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, but I'm saying, in the long run,

1333
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:47,439
if you really want to change this, because someday democrats

1334
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,399
going to be in power again, it was always.

1335
01:15:49,079 --> 01:15:51,159
Speaker 2: For not using corporate money too.

1336
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,159
Speaker 1: But that's not the argument of a populist types. They

1337
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:56,600
say we need to take over the institutions make them

1338
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,560
work for us. I think that's because.

1339
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:03,520
Speaker 2: Also though, because that one hundred billion dollars is about radical,

1340
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,720
permanent change. The money means something. And so when you say, like, oh,

1341
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,199
we were you know, we're going to take power and

1342
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:13,279
then do nothing with the power, Yeah, it's a real

1343
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,239
weak way to affect permanent change.

1344
01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: I want to do stuff with the power. I want

1345
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,560
to get government out of our lives. That's something too.

1346
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:23,079
You guys keep pretending like everyone is spineless because they

1347
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:26,039
don't want to just crush their enemies. I don't think

1348
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:27,439
in the end you're going to be able to crush

1349
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,840
your enemies using the state in that way, because someday

1350
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,560
they're going to take over the state and then they're

1351
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,239
going to try to crush you. They're probably going to

1352
01:16:33,279 --> 01:16:33,760
do it anyway.

1353
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:39,119
Speaker 2: I get it, Oh, David, that infuriates me. They already did,

1354
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,439
they already did the credit.

1355
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: No, they didn't. You're back in power. The establishment right

1356
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,000
now is Donald Trump, and they didn't. It didn't work

1357
01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:48,239
for them. Law Air didn't work out for them. They're

1358
01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:50,760
still If you believe in the American system, you say,

1359
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,079
you know what, in the end, we won, right, they

1360
01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:57,880
didn't stop Donald Trump from being president. BLM is dead,

1361
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,239
you know, but not to the extent is like it is.

1362
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,319
Almost virtually every email I got from every company they're

1363
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:07,720
in two thousand and two thousand and one at the

1364
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,880
bottom had some kind of like rainbow or BLM thing.

1365
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:12,079
You don't see that anymore. They're not in power. I

1366
01:17:12,079 --> 01:17:15,399
don't think BLM has the kind of sway they had obviously.

1367
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 2: Not need to. They built all these programs inside corporations

1368
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,159
to give themselves permanent power.

1369
01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: And you don't think DEI programs are being destroyed as

1370
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,680
we speak. I mean a lot of.

1371
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: I think they're being read sometimes.

1372
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,319
Speaker 1: My point is that say.

1373
01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 2: One thing really quickly. Because my neighbors, you know, who

1374
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:37,439
are all supportive of the BLM craziness. They they put

1375
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,119
up the signs that said ending racism starts here, with

1376
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:42,439
a map to their house. So the whole point was

1377
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,800
we accept and completely adopt BLM medeology that racism is

1378
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:50,680
inherent to all white people, and so we are admitting

1379
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,039
that we're racist, and if we want to stop racism,

1380
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:55,439
we have to first admit that we're racist. It's been

1381
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,000
five years since they put these signs up right, and

1382
01:17:59,039 --> 01:18:02,640
they some of them still have them, and I still,

1383
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,000
to the annoyance of my children, you know, continue to

1384
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,640
every time we drive past or walk past, point out

1385
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,119
that those are racists who live there. But I was

1386
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:13,079
saying recently, like, there's such bad racists that they've been

1387
01:18:13,119 --> 01:18:15,600
working on their racism for five years and they're just

1388
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,000
as racist as when they started, or they're racist enough

1389
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,359
to have a sign announcing that they're racists in their yard,

1390
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,760
that they refresh these signs to say we're horrible racists

1391
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,600
and we live here at such and such address. And

1392
01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:30,239
one of my kids that was saying, like, wouldn't it

1393
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,920
be funny if they had signs that said like ending

1394
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:38,000
murder starts here, like they were admitting that they were murderers.

1395
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:40,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, you should put one up that says cured of

1396
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,560
my I was cured of my racism, you know, like

1397
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,039
it's over or never had it. But you know what

1398
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:48,680
I mean, Yeah, it's I listen. But I think people

1399
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,239
kind of today that's a small minority of people who

1400
01:18:52,279 --> 01:18:54,319
have signs like that. I think that that's kind of

1401
01:18:54,319 --> 01:18:56,119
looked at now as something passe.

1402
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 2: No. I think it's hilarious my neighbors are bitter clingers.

1403
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,920
I love them, but they are bitter clingers. They're like

1404
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:08,039
federal employees who support every trend, Like we got Ukrainian flags,

1405
01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:10,720
we got the racism science we have. Like one of

1406
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,039
my neighbors and I actually love her, put out afresh

1407
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,560
one of those signs, like in this house, we believe

1408
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,960
in science over fiction, which I'm just as someone who

1409
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,439
loves fiction. The way I understand that is we believe

1410
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,479
in science over fiction. So we don't read literature and

1411
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,479
we worship science. And we also are trands, you know,

1412
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,039
like it doesn't even make sense in their own signage.

1413
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, those signs are ridiculous.

1414
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,319
Speaker 2: One other thing, Sorr, I'm just going to do a

1415
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:43,399
call back to the RFK thing about autism. One thing

1416
01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:45,359
that bothered me is so I still haven't seen what

1417
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,760
RFK actually said about autism. And you said it was

1418
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,000
really bad and that he was talking about exterminating autistic

1419
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,000
people or something that would be very bad.

1420
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: No, he didn't say he wants to exterminate them. He

1421
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:01,560
does have the language of a eugenicist talking about doubt

1422
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,159
syndrome or something, right, like he called it a holocaust

1423
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:09,760
in the past, and now he called it a catastrophic

1424
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:15,239
catastrophe or something like that. Now, obviously, for some parents

1425
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:18,159
it's very difficult, and for some people it's very difficult,

1426
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,119
but we have expanded the diagnosis. For most autistic people

1427
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:25,800
can live their lives in a very normal way and

1428
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:30,520
are fine. And this constant drumbee from him talking about

1429
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,239
them like there's some kind of plague on society. I

1430
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:34,239
think it's disgusting.

1431
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's what I wanted to just mention really quickly,

1432
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,640
is that I think that we are using the word

1433
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,439
autists to describe such a widely divergent group of people

1434
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,439
that it's ridiculous. There are people who are like good

1435
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,079
with numbers, and we call them autistic. And then there

1436
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:56,600
are people like one of my friends has a son

1437
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:05,000
who is severely autistic, and he is nonverbal. He's he's bright,

1438
01:21:05,079 --> 01:21:12,279
but nonverbal and has not really control over his physicality. Sure,

1439
01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:17,960
and he you know, cannot really function outside of the house.

1440
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:21,560
And then he's also a very strong boy. You know,

1441
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,319
he's now in his early twenties. He's very strong. He's

1442
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:30,720
stronger than she is. He can cause major destruction in

1443
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,359
the house. There is no place for him to go

1444
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,479
in the county in which she lives, there is no

1445
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,479
place for him to go. In the state in which

1446
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:43,880
she lives, there's she cannot work and take care of him.

1447
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,960
And when people pooh pooh and say like, oh, my

1448
01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:49,880
son's autistic and he goes to Oxford and he's married

1449
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,319
with children, it's like we're not talking about that. We're

1450
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:55,279
not talking about that at all. We're talking about people

1451
01:21:55,359 --> 01:21:59,960
like the boy, the son of my friend, who's entire

1452
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:05,359
our life is shaped by his condition and the inability

1453
01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:07,760
of any institution to care for him.

1454
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: You're talking about that, and that is I agree with

1455
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,239
everything you said, and we should do more to help

1456
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,600
those people. But RFK is entire case for how we

1457
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:23,199
have an explosion of autism relies almost exclusively on expanding

1458
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:26,600
the diagnosis. I'm not the psychiatrist. I think we over

1459
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,399
diagnose people with these things because it makes and it

1460
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,800
makes them feel like they're not normal or whatever. I

1461
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,079
don't know that there is a normal, you know, for

1462
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:37,760
a person of how we were supposed to think whatever.

1463
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,920
I'm not an expert on that, but I am someone

1464
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,039
who can look at numbers and knows that a most

1465
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:49,760
for instance, most groups, most autism, you know, groups and stuff.

1466
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,560
They think he's wrong. Most scientists think he's wrong. And

1467
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,680
this idea that it's exploded has a lot to do

1468
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,840
with diagnosis. And I think that actually it hurts the people.

1469
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,800
You just hurts the boy you're just talking about. It's

1470
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,880
like throwing people in, you know, it's like throwing people

1471
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,399
in who have you know, certain kinds of cancers with

1472
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:13,000
people who have easily curable cancers or whatever. You know,

1473
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,640
we should be much more precise with how we talk

1474
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,479
about these people or human beings. And I just think

1475
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,119
RFK believes everything is environmental. Everything could be cured by

1476
01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:28,039
just you know, eating whole grains or whatever, and or

1477
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:31,239
maybe not. I don't know. I think it's a problem.

1478
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,159
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap it up.

1479
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:34,319
Speaker 1: Culture.

1480
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:36,199
Speaker 2: What do you watch?

1481
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,520
Speaker 1: I have watched a few things. I'll tell you quickly.

1482
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,560
I watched a movie called The Order, on which I

1483
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,399
was actually interested in watching. It's it's kind of the

1484
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,279
story about these and usually when okay, so it's a

1485
01:23:49,319 --> 01:23:52,279
story about neo Nazis and kind of in Idaho and

1486
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,800
in Washington State and the people who killed Alan Berg.

1487
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:56,760
Do you know about that?

1488
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 2: The radio radio gun the.

1489
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Radio Gun in Denver. Yeah, AOA, he was on and

1490
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,720
Jude Law plays a FBI agent. And Nicholas Holt do

1491
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:07,239
you know him?

1492
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:08,359
Speaker 2: I like him?

1493
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,079
Speaker 1: Yes, me too, He's excellent. He plays like the true

1494
01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:16,880
believer I call him now. Typically these movies are annoying

1495
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,319
because of this. They will take the neo Nazi and

1496
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:21,560
he will see all kinds of neo Nazi kind of stuff,

1497
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,680
and then all of a sudden they'll say, and taxation

1498
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,199
is theft or and or he'll see something very you know,

1499
01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:31,279
something conservative, so they'll like conflate a normal opinion of

1500
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:34,000
a conservative with the Nazi opinion to make it look

1501
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:37,319
like normal conservatives are kind of like Nazis. Anyway, they

1502
01:24:37,319 --> 01:24:41,000
don't do that here. It's beautifully shot. It does make

1503
01:24:41,039 --> 01:24:43,840
me laugh that there are two British actors playing these

1504
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,279
roles of people in Idaho and so on. I just

1505
01:24:46,319 --> 01:24:50,199
don't know, maybe need tariffs on these actors or something,

1506
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:52,680
but we need to have more American actors doing it.

1507
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,119
I thought it was okay. I didn't love it. It

1508
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,000
was kind of boring this, you know this. I just

1509
01:24:58,199 --> 01:24:59,359
expected more to happen.

1510
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,399
Speaker 2: I wanted to see it, so I was hoping you

1511
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,039
were going to say that it was great.

1512
01:25:03,359 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: It's not great in my estimation, but it isn't terrible.

1513
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,520
It was it was okay to watch. It's brooding, you know,

1514
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,439
it breathes, it takes the time, it's time, and everyone

1515
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:13,840
is very sad in the movie.

1516
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: And I don't remember all that I've watched because I

1517
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,960
was really sick, and I even had I had, I

1518
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:25,359
was I was dealing with all sorts of things which

1519
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,720
required me to do nothing but rest. So I've watched

1520
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,520
so much stuff. Oh nice, I'm like, but I don't

1521
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,399
even remember what all of it is.

1522
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,359
Speaker 1: I usually feel like a loser. You're like, I have

1523
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:37,960
one thing. I was busy, and I'm like, I have

1524
01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:39,880
twelve things I've watched this week?

1525
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,399
Speaker 2: Was it was? Did we talk about this already, this

1526
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,359
movie with Angelina Jolie.

1527
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: Yes, we talked about Burns. Remember I told you about

1528
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,640
Ed Burns. Knowledge.

1529
01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: I watched a movie based solely on who's that really

1530
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,479
hot chick, the hot chick right now, the young girl

1531
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,800
who's got the tiggle bitties.

1532
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:11,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need more give you another clue at just.

1533
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,239
Speaker 2: Pause for a second. I'm gonna ask my kid to

1534
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:15,039
help me with all of my movie titles.

1535
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:16,359
Speaker 1: Here do I have to pause?

1536
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:23,039
Speaker 2: Hold up? Do you know what I'm talking about? Cyddy Sweeney?

1537
01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:27,600
She knew exactly who I was talking about. There's this

1538
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:36,319
really awful Shakespearean adaptation. It was so bad. It was

1539
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,600
Anyone but You, which is an adaptation of much Ado

1540
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:45,199
about Nothing and has like a handsome guy Glendy All

1541
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:48,840
in it, and then they're you know, so it was

1542
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,039
almost unwatchable. Like if I hadn't been just recuperating, I

1543
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:57,119
don't think I would have survived that. Then I started

1544
01:26:57,159 --> 01:26:59,000
watching a little bit of that TV show that you

1545
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:01,359
called the Crying Show This is Us.

1546
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,039
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I liked that.

1547
01:27:05,119 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had a Bell Kilmer night where we watched Tombstone.

1548
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:12,840
I love Tombstone so much. I don't know why. I've

1549
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,560
watched it so many times, and I could just watch

1550
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,720
it like a thousand.

1551
01:27:15,359 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: More and I just want to say I'm your Hulkerberry

1552
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,760
to everyone after watching right, yes.

1553
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't watch it was like, that's such a

1554
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,960
good one. And then we watched Real Genius, which I

1555
01:27:25,039 --> 01:27:27,880
had never seen. What, Yeah, I loved it.

1556
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I love that movie. That was maybe

1557
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,800
his first movie. I think I think it was in

1558
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,640
a movie called Top top Secret.

1559
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: I think Top Secret comes out before that. But I

1560
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,199
just I loved I loved Real Genius. I thought it

1561
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:47,159
was also very like appropriate for the moment about drone

1562
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:49,000
strikes of people.

1563
01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:52,520
Speaker 1: You just love movies where, even though in real life

1564
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,079
it's rarely so, where there's a genius, you know, someone

1565
01:27:55,079 --> 01:27:57,239
with this big brain who's also just a lot of

1566
01:27:57,239 --> 01:27:59,520
fun and normal, you know what I mean. It's usually

1567
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,479
not the case, but a move, it's a good fictional

1568
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,319
do like Heat. Did you ever watch Heat? Did you

1569
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:06,359
like Heat about film?

1570
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? Might need to watch that again. But we also

1571
01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:14,399
started watching The Apprentice, and I should have done this

1572
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,600
in twenty sixteen. I have never seen I had never

1573
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,640
seen an episode of The Apprentice. I knew it was

1574
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,119
a big show, but I've always kind of disliked Donald Trump.

1575
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,439
I don't like his style, and I just thought it

1576
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,720
was going to be a stupid show. But one of

1577
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,960
my kids and I started watching it and we were

1578
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,159
oddly hooked by it. Had have you seen it?

1579
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,159
Speaker 1: No, I've never watched an episode.

1580
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: David. I'm telling you as a journalist, it's your obligation

1581
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,359
to watch it just to see what Trump is like,

1582
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,720
what his appeal is, how he operates, the way he thinks.

1583
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,960
It's it's a really great show. And then we've kept

1584
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,079
watching it and we kind of got into it, and

1585
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,560
we even went to Trump Tower this week to see

1586
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,680
the site where it all happens. And then I was

1587
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,960
also wondering which floor he was on when he came

1588
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,760
down the Golden Escalete. I was trying to position because

1589
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,840
multiple Golden Escalater floors. And sorry, I'm mixing my twenty

1590
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,520
sixteen campaign launch with The Apprentice, But it's okay. And

1591
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,720
then let me ask, has there been something else we've watched?

1592
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:13,680
What was it?

1593
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

1594
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then we also have been watching Moonlighting, which

1595
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,560
I saw everything like in the way that I saw

1596
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,359
every single episode of Cheers, and I love Bruce Willis

1597
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,039
in that and I just love his character.

1598
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:32,119
Speaker 1: I've watched it. I didn't see them all. I mean

1599
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:33,960
when I was young, it was on, and if I

1600
01:29:34,039 --> 01:29:35,439
you know, in the old days, when you didn't like

1601
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,880
plan what you could watch and you couldn't binge watch,

1602
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,600
you had to, Like, if I sat down and it

1603
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,840
was on, I'd watch it. But you know that and

1604
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,279
Remington Steel to me, are.

1605
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:48,199
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I so loved Remington Steel. Yes, and Sybil

1606
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:50,000
Shepherd is a lovely woman too.

1607
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed that you watch so much. You know,

1608
01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:00,520
have you ever watched Celebrity Jeopardy? Yeah, if you want

1609
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,880
to feel really smart, you watch Celebrity Jeopardy. I kill

1610
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,159
at this thing, and there's one going on right now.

1611
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,479
There's three people set standing there the other day and

1612
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,800
they said, what was the famous river Julius Caesar crossed,

1613
01:30:14,319 --> 01:30:16,800
you know, and whatever? And none of them knew it,

1614
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,920
and like questions like that they don't know, and I'm like, wow,

1615
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,279
I just feel so much better than these people and

1616
01:30:21,399 --> 01:30:24,439
so educated. Second question I have for you is have

1617
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,800
you ever heard of something called a pangolin?

1618
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: Pengl the That's what Anthony Fauci tried to blame his

1619
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,840
COVID launch on.

1620
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,119
Speaker 1: So yesterday was I was yesterday years old when I

1621
01:30:38,199 --> 01:30:42,239
first learned that this animal existed. And it's an anteater

1622
01:30:42,359 --> 01:30:44,720
with like scales. It looks like something like a dinosaur,

1623
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,159
right kind of. It's so amazing. Anyway, I noted on

1624
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,039
Twitter that I didn't know what they were, and everyone's like,

1625
01:30:51,039 --> 01:30:53,359
where were you in nineteen twenty, you know, And I'm like,

1626
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,520
did I know? And just forget because it seems like

1627
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,079
I do pay attention to the news quite you.

1628
01:30:58,039 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Know, see did you know? So why are you bringing

1629
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,640
up the penguin? There?

1630
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,319
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a movie on Netflix. First of all,

1631
01:31:06,359 --> 01:31:09,680
they're freaking cool, right, like so interesting. But anyway, there

1632
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,159
was a I watched the documentary last night on a

1633
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:17,039
guy who So apparently these things are poached like crazy

1634
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:18,800
because in China they think it has some kind of

1635
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,720
magical ability or something.

1636
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 2: Right, sex like a sex stuff.

1637
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1638
01:31:23,039 --> 01:31:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always that, isn't it. It's always that, like

1639
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:27,000
why are they getting the right why are they taking

1640
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,199
the rhinoceroses you know ears? Oh yeah, they Chinese think

1641
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:34,359
it helps them in bed. So it's like a it's

1642
01:31:34,359 --> 01:31:37,239
like an hour and a half documentary. It's amazing. Yeah,

1643
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,319
great Netflix. Yeah, all right? Is that it?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what else I watched, but there was

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a lot of bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I will have a thing called a pen and

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a pad, and you can every time you watch something

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like I do, or even on your phone, this thing

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called notebook and you open it and you just put

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it on that's what I do, okay, because we need

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you here. And also, by the way, if you have

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like ten things, you can save a few and then

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have them next week when you don't watch.

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Speaker 2: That's what I do too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they are workings, will be You're wrong podcast. This

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episode was unwildy wielding, unwielding all right, Well, that was great.

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If you'd like to email the show, just a reminder,

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you can email us at radio at the Federalist dot com.

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We love to hear from you, and we'll talk to

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you next week. Until then, be lovers of freedom and

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anxious for the fray.

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Speaker 2: Well minus too. Just watch on thew or I'll sit

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on you.

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Speaker 3: The word is out right because I'm the King of

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fail