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<v Speaker 2>Alli ward back with the final episode of this year's

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<v Speaker 2>spook Tumber series, and true to my promise, they are

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little closer to the heart and the dead

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<v Speaker 2>the closer we approach Halloween. And in hindsight, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that was a good idea for twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>since Halloween is just going to go butt to butt

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<v Speaker 2>with the presidential. But you know what, oddly, death episodes

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<v Speaker 2>tend to be really inspiring and life affirming, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>just press on. I promise by the end of this

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<v Speaker 2>love you. Thanks for making me see look I just

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<v Speaker 2>Salad nineteen, who wrote listening to Old Dad word is

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<v Speaker 2>the subject matter scares me slightly, it's just too interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to press pause. Egs Salid nineteen, Buckle up, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to everyone who left such sweet ass reviews. All

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<v Speaker 2>of you. I read every single one. I'm earnestly so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for it. Okay, deserology, So this is a real word,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was coined by a legend in the field,

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<v Speaker 2>like a pioneer of professional funeral fanciness, Noela Pipagno, who

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<v Speaker 2>authored the nineteen eighty three classic Deserology, The Dressing of

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<v Speaker 2>Decedent's Hair. So she was a hairstylist. She just passed

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<v Speaker 2>away about three years ago, and she believed that her

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<v Speaker 2>clients should be served after death as well, and that

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<v Speaker 2>more care and attention needed to be paid to the

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<v Speaker 2>dearly departed to make them look their best as they're bereaved.

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<v Speaker 2>Say goodbye, and I found a clip here she is

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<v Speaker 2>introducing the world to this ology in the early nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear professionals, for over thirty years, one of my greatest

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<v Speaker 3>rewards has a hairstylist has been my work for funeral homes.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to share that experience with you. For

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<v Speaker 3>three years, Hairstyling for decedent has been in the making

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<v Speaker 3>the story of techniques, touching all phases of his styling

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<v Speaker 3>for a deceased needs telling. This manual of Deserology describes

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<v Speaker 3>these techniques and details. Understanding your needs in this field

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<v Speaker 3>and catering to them is what this book is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, huh legend, So Noela dubbed her work deserology

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<v Speaker 2>because it was a portmanteau, kind of a franken word

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<v Speaker 2>of deceased and hair, so deserology, but it tends to

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<v Speaker 2>capture kind of all the glam given to folks before

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<v Speaker 2>a viewing. And I first heard of this ology probably

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<v Speaker 2>two three years ago actually from Megan Rosenbloom, the anthropodermic

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<v Speaker 2>biocodocologist from last week's episode. And this ologist holds many titles.

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<v Speaker 2>She owns the next generation mortuary support in Phoenix, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping for a few years for like a

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<v Speaker 2>dusty road trip to the desert to take in her

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<v Speaker 2>immaculate lab and smell the rows and rows of solutions

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<v Speaker 2>and bottles and brushes and blushes, but alas a digital

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<v Speaker 2>conversation in the times of COVID would have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So we hopped on and we chatted all about the

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<v Speaker 2>mortuary business, the particulars of embalming, reconstruction, her most memorable

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<v Speaker 2>cases and some heartwarming ones, whether she's ever perhaps seen

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe felt any presences, and who dominates the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>business spa services for recently deceased, why you should just

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<v Speaker 2>let things go, and well how to effortlessly look your best,

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<v Speaker 2>So lean back on a satin pillow and get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for world renowned desertologist Bonica Trus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Monticatoris and I'm a licensed embomber, licensed

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<v Speaker 5>funeral director, post mortem reconstructive specialists, and deserologist.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that's really long, but that's great. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>doing this a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>And the pronouns you use with she my scholarship actually

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<v Speaker 5>that I founded is helps women and transgender individuals gain

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<v Speaker 5>technical skills in funeral service and embalming and management skills.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's something that's important to me to learn how

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<v Speaker 5>that community is what they're expecting from like the older,

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<v Speaker 5>like more like experienced generations too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned you were a deserologist. Yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 2>a word that gets used to let I know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was invented in the eighties, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, that's right. It's not used a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're like a regular just lay person that has

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<v Speaker 5>no you know, experience in funeral service or embalming.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not hurt a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>So don't feel bad because those funeral directors and bombers

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<v Speaker 5>have not heard of it either.

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<v Speaker 2>Which came first? Were you more interested in makeup or

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<v Speaker 2>were you more interested in funeral services.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think those are really good questions because it

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<v Speaker 5>seems like I get a lot of people asking me

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<v Speaker 5>these questions on my social media and even in my

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<v Speaker 5>email inbox.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, how did you get involved in this?

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<v Speaker 5>So my background is unique in the sense that I

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<v Speaker 5>was actually licensed cosmetologist before I became a licensed mortician,

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<v Speaker 5>So I had a background already when I went into

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<v Speaker 5>mortuary science in mortuary college, in cosmetology, so the love.

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<v Speaker 2>Of makeup came first here. But in a pretty gender

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<v Speaker 2>conforming society, it's more common for ladies to be hands

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<v Speaker 2>on with contouring than corpses.

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<v Speaker 5>Back then, I did know that deserrology existed because I

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<v Speaker 5>had researched it before I went into mortuary college. But

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<v Speaker 5>I also found out that it was just not very

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<v Speaker 5>common like there because because the industry is so largely

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<v Speaker 5>populated by men, it is a male dominated field. It

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<v Speaker 5>kind of was just not something that was important to

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<v Speaker 5>the professionals that were.

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<v Speaker 4>Running the industry.

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<v Speaker 5>But things are changing, you know, there's more women now.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of our mortuary college class. At the college itself,

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<v Speaker 5>as far as the students, the women outnumber the men now,

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<v Speaker 5>so I think that deserology there's going to be exploration

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<v Speaker 5>in that area as far as post mortem rejuvenation and

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<v Speaker 5>treatments on the body. Now that there's more women, I

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<v Speaker 5>think that that's something that we're going to bring to

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<v Speaker 5>the table that's never been done before.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes to makeup. Is there something about the artistry

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<v Speaker 2>of it that you loved? Were you like a really

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<v Speaker 2>artistic kid? Were you always painting or drawing or what

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<v Speaker 2>do you love about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's funny you asked that, because I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I started drawing skulls from the time that I was

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<v Speaker 5>very little, So back then, you know, my parents were

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<v Speaker 5>mortified that I was drawing.

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<v Speaker 4>Skulls and dead things.

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<v Speaker 5>They did not understand or like that, and I, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't even understand it. I just it was just

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<v Speaker 5>very natural to me. So yes, I was. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>an artist, like since I could remember. I've always loved

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<v Speaker 5>to draw and paint and sculpt and used charcoal and

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<v Speaker 5>I was really involved in art when I was in

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<v Speaker 5>high school. I you know, did all the banners for

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<v Speaker 5>the football team to run through and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel in general about holidays when the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of society sort of dips into behind that curtain

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<v Speaker 2>into spookiness. Like I grew up like goth, and so

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I saw everyone being goth for like the week

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<v Speaker 2>of Halloween, was like, come on, we're out here every week.

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<v Speaker 2>But how is it someone who works in funeral services

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<v Speaker 2>and mortuary science? Is that a holiday that you're so

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<v Speaker 2>over or not?

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<v Speaker 5>It's really it's so funny that you asked that, because like,

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<v Speaker 5>growing up, I was always like I was kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a goth chick too, but that was like that was

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<v Speaker 5>just how I always was, Like I was always like

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<v Speaker 5>that when I was from the time that I was

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<v Speaker 5>very little, I just found beauty in the darker things

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<v Speaker 5>in life. Halloween was like my favorite holiday for many

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<v Speaker 5>many years, and as I've gotten older, not just Halloween,

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<v Speaker 5>but like a lot of the holidays. I'm so busy

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<v Speaker 5>with work that my life doesn't stop for Halloween or

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas or Valentine's Day. As a mortician, you know, we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Have holidays off typically, so.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard for me to like embrace the spooky vibes

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff because it's my life. And I also I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so busy serving families and other funeral directors.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I try.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I know people expect me to like they expect

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, oh my gosh, you're like the death Queen,

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<v Speaker 5>like you should be have like the spookiest house.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day is Halloween. Halloween in my world. They like

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<v Speaker 4>that ministry song.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, think about yeah. So, and what

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<v Speaker 2>was it like for you to make that transition from

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<v Speaker 2>the cosmetology side of it into mortuary services? What door

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<v Speaker 2>opened to let you combine it to.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's really hard as a woman in this industry.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really hard to make headway because it is, like

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<v Speaker 5>I said, it is still predominantly run by men. All

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<v Speaker 5>the leadership positions, the decision makers are still men. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I really had to go above and beyond

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<v Speaker 5>what my skill level was, and that if you look

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<v Speaker 5>deep into my background, you'll find that I have a

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<v Speaker 5>very deeply rooted background in technical skills.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what does it take to be a Monica Taurus?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of school and passion. So she first got

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<v Speaker 2>her bachelor's in recreation and event management because funerals they

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of parties after all, And she's been a

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<v Speaker 2>licensed cosmetologist for twenty years and will still an embalming intern.

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<v Speaker 2>She completed a deserology course named Airbrush Artistry for cosmetic

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<v Speaker 2>use in the prep room and restorative art. She's also

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<v Speaker 2>trained in post mortem reconstructive DEMI surgery from the Fountain

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<v Speaker 2>National Academy of Professional Embalming Skills. She's certified as a

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<v Speaker 2>crematory operator and has been recognized in her industry with awards.

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<v Speaker 2>She graced the cover of Funeral Director magazine, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>pioneered hair restoration that her peers now dub the no

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<v Speaker 2>wax Torus technique. So my point, she has serious chops.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to make sure that the men that I

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<v Speaker 5>was working alongside understood that my technical skills were on

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<v Speaker 5>point and that they know if they had a question

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<v Speaker 5>for me, I had an answer, because I found that

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<v Speaker 5>that was a stumbling block for a lot of men

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<v Speaker 5>in our industry when it came to cosmetology and makeup.

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<v Speaker 5>So now that I have that skill base, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>completed the program at the Fountain National Academy of Professional

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<v Speaker 5>and Bombing Skills, which is in my industry, that's the

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<v Speaker 5>There's less than sixty individuals worldwide that have completed the

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<v Speaker 5>I'm one of the very few women that has completed

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<v Speaker 5>And at that point, that's when people started listening to

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<v Speaker 2>and the toughest subjects like embalming the infant death. Which

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<v Speaker 2>think what deserologists are going through. Leave behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>of funeral homes all over the world, but actually what

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us do not know how to embalm someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you run through? Kind of in a nutshell, because

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<v Speaker 5>It is what happens when, what happens, right, happens, what.

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<v Speaker 5>of people do not understand what I do for a living.

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<v Speaker 5>So they know that I work around dead bodies, but

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<v Speaker 5>they don't really understand the process. So embalming is comprised

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<v Speaker 5>of three basic steps. The first part is disinfection of

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<v Speaker 5>the body, which is very relevant in our world right

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<v Speaker 5>now with the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the first step.

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<v Speaker 5>The second step is preservation of the tissues and the

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<v Speaker 5>the makeup part, that is the cosmetology part.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's three steps. Yeah, very simply put.

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<v Speaker 2>And those post mortem rituals and procedures have been happening

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<v Speaker 2>for thousands of years, including mummification and other ways of

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen hundreds, but it really gained popularity in the US

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<v Speaker 2>during the Civil War when fallen Union soldiers needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be preserved for shipment home to be seen and then

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<v Speaker 2>buried by their families. But back then, though they used arsenic,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't anymore. But once again, the whole embalming process

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<v Speaker 2>is more than just a picture of fluids displacing blood.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's break down those three steps further. There's disinfection, preservation,

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<v Speaker 5>The actual embalming process itself is you know, bathing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the disinfection process.

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<v Speaker 5>We bathe the body, We disinfect the body with the

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<v Speaker 5>appropriate disinfectants that we use to clear off all of

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<v Speaker 5>the bacteria, the microbes, anything that's going to harm the

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<v Speaker 5>enbomber or the family. We get rid of all that

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that goes down the drain, and then we move

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<v Speaker 5>forward into the preservation portion, which is where we actually are.

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<v Speaker 5>We're trying to remove the bacteria rich blood from the

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<v Speaker 5>body and replace it with a disinfected based preservative.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I see the disinfectant where knocks it out

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<v Speaker 6>in a minute one minute, And is there a way

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<v Speaker 2>Or or it's not bleach though or our snack anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is the disinfection based magic potion?

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<v Speaker 4>Which is formaldehyde? That's the most I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say the chemical that we have found so

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<v Speaker 5>far that.

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<v Speaker 4>Works the best for that process.

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<v Speaker 5>So if we can get the blood out and replace

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<v Speaker 5>it with that chemical formaldehyde, then the body is preserved

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<v Speaker 5>and able to it basically buys us time right between

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the process.

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<v Speaker 5>The blood goes down the drain, All of the fluids

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<v Speaker 5>that come out of the body.

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<v Speaker 4>Go down the drain.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people are really surprised to hear that,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's that's what happens. So they're worried about contaminants, right, like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, all this stuff's going down the drain.

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<v Speaker 5>And the one thing I want to say to all

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<v Speaker 5>those people is they remember that we're working with disinfectants. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so yes, it's going down the drain, but it's also

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<v Speaker 5>it's disinfecting as it's going in the drain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, formaldehyde, once it comes in contact with protein,

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<v Speaker 5>which is blood, and you know, everything that our body produces,

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<v Speaker 5>it's returning to its organic state. So as far as

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<v Speaker 5>like fear of contaminants and contaminating our soils and our

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<v Speaker 5>water supply and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's false. So that's a misconception that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, quick aside, what else is in ebalmbing fluid. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cocktail, if you will, of formaldehyde, methanol, ethanol,

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<v Speaker 2>and other solvents and wedding agents. And in the prep

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<v Speaker 2>room it's stored in something that looks kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>if you had a frozen margarita machine, and each human

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<v Speaker 2>person needs about two to three gallons of it flushed

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<v Speaker 2>into and filling up their blood tunnels. But let's chat

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<v Speaker 2>about formaldehyde. It's a naturally occurring compound. It's c H

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<v Speaker 2>two zero. It's all over the earth. We even produce

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<v Speaker 2>some of it naturally in our bodies. And in its

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<v Speaker 2>pure form, it's an invisible gas, and it has a

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<v Speaker 2>smell that's been described as sweetly, aniseptic, musty, and even

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<v Speaker 2>pickle like. But if it's in a solution, typically it's

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<v Speaker 2>in the form of formuline, and it's used in a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of industrial settings, especially in making resins and particle boards,

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<v Speaker 2>but also in carrot and hair treatments like Brazilian blowouts,

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<v Speaker 2>which I have had many, and I've been handed a

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<v Speaker 2>rubber respirator at the salon, which is concerning. Yet I

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<v Speaker 2>continue to do it despite formaldehyde being technically listed as cerinogenic,

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<v Speaker 2>so folks who work with it are often at a

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<v Speaker 2>greater risk for certain types of nasofare andngeal cancers and

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<v Speaker 2>blood cancers and other irritations. But it certainly gets the

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<v Speaker 2>job done when it comes to particle boards, glossy hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and good look in dead people.

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<v Speaker 5>And then finally the third part, the restoration part, the

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<v Speaker 5>makeup part, that's the beautification and rejuvenation portion.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's the part that the family gets to see

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<v Speaker 4>at the.

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<v Speaker 2>End, notice the lifelike.

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<v Speaker 5>Pigmentation and not to bash in you guys, So I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to do that. I learned from mostly men,

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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like women have a lot to bring.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot to bring to the table in

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<v Speaker 4>that portion because.

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<v Speaker 5>We are typically as far as gender roles have concerned

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<v Speaker 5>for all this time, you know, we've been kind of

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<v Speaker 5>pushed into that like, oh, you need to wear makeup,

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<v Speaker 5>and you all of the marketing is like, oh, buy

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<v Speaker 5>makeup and wear makeup and do your nails and do

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<v Speaker 5>your hair, so you know, we already have this preconceived

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<v Speaker 5>notion of what beauty looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, and it's a little different for I think

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<v Speaker 2>So this whole time in a male dominated field, is

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<v Speaker 2>there like Harold sixty five year old and balmer doing

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<v Speaker 2>makeup on you know, like a nineteen year old deceased patient.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, that's that's the standard right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so weird. Yeah, and I'm sorry for this frank reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just saying, imagine a nineteen year old chick

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<v Speaker 2>walking into Sephora and getting a makeover by someone who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really like or wear makeup themselves. It's maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little weird, but it would be super weird if you

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<v Speaker 2>looked around and everyone who worked at Sephora was also

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<v Speaker 2>like that guy. You might be like, what's keeping ladies

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<v Speaker 2>from doing this job? It's not weird because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>Harold is good at it, but it's also like, for

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<v Speaker 2>that to be a male dominated, well, activity, seems so

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<v Speaker 4>It is it is?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's honestly, And like I said, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to bash any.

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<v Speaker 4>Men or any of the people that have come before me.

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<v Speaker 5>But I feel like that's why cremation has gotten this

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<v Speaker 5>huge rise and aquamation is like this big thing right

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<v Speaker 5>now because people got sick of like they got sick

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<v Speaker 5>of that, you know, they got sick of people that

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<v Speaker 5>weren't They're paying all.

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<v Speaker 4>This money for the service and the skill set wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and a lot of the families were like, I

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, I don't want to disparage anyone's skill

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<v Speaker 5>set or you know, their their background or their history

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. But I think you know, things are changing,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, like anything else, any kind of consumer

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<v Speaker 4>Need to know who to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to know who to.

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<v Speaker 5>Call, like you have you know what hairstylist you want

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<v Speaker 5>to go to, you know where you go to get

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<v Speaker 5>your nails done, and when someone passes, like that's part

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<v Speaker 5>of it. You know, you need to know who to

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<v Speaker 5>go to, what's their skill set, what do they specialize in,

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<v Speaker 5>who's the person in the back room right right?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you feel like in the work that you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel like you're serving the family and the

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<v Speaker 2>friends and the loved ones of the person who's passed,

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<v Speaker 2>or do you feel like you're doing it for the

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<v Speaker 2>person on the table.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a really great question and I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 5>you asked that. For me personally, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 5>and the loved ones and the people that need that

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to say goodbye. The person on the table is

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<v Speaker 5>it's not necessarily for them, right Basically, what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 5>a murder, whatever. So that part, yes, I am doing

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<v Speaker 5>it for that person on the table, absolutely, But in

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<v Speaker 5>that person on the table. I focus mentally emotionally on

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<v Speaker 4>So that's how I separate that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you have to separate your emotion when you're

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet what types When you say a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>case or traumatic case, what kind of cases come to

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<v Speaker 2>you or what's been a challenge that you really weren't

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<v Speaker 4>Well for well, there's so many I mean, there's just

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<v Speaker 4>so many ways that people die.

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<v Speaker 5>Cancer can be traumatic for people. It can be a

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<v Speaker 4>It ravages the body.

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<v Speaker 5>But then there's also infants and bodies that are decomposed.

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<v Speaker 4>They're found, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's there's a lot of different types of scenarios

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<v Speaker 5>and we deal with as in bombers, we deal with

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<v Speaker 5>the worst or.

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<v Speaker 4>The worst, right, So you don't get to pick and.

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<v Speaker 5>Choose and say, well, I'm only gonna work on little

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<v Speaker 5>old ladies that died of natural causes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I'm from a Catholic family and so

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<v Speaker 2>we for some reason, Catholics love an open casket. Have

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<v Speaker 2>there ever been cases where the family has wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>say goodbye visually? And it's it's something that maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't advise.

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<v Speaker 4>I personally recommend.

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<v Speaker 5>I always recommend for families to view their loved one,

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<v Speaker 5>even if the trauma is severe and it might not

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily be for you know, two hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>People, but for those people that were closest to that person.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of times those cases, in particular, where there

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<v Speaker 5>is of your trauma are the ones where the families need.

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<v Speaker 4>To say goodbye. They need to be able to accept what.

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<v Speaker 5>Has happened, because a lot of times it's a shock.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they go to work in the morning and

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<v Speaker 5>they don't come home. I see death differently in that

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<v Speaker 5>way where I think, especially here in America, we're so

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<v Speaker 5>focused on looks, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>All about the way you look.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And we're so focused on that, it's hard for

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<v Speaker 5>people to understand that it's not about that.

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<v Speaker 4>When you have that one last opportunity to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Goodbye, like that's it, that's all you have, that one

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<v Speaker 5>last opportunity. For example, if you knew that you're never

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<v Speaker 5>going to get to see your mom again, she was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh no, you can't come over because my hair is

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<v Speaker 5>a mess and my house is trashed and whatever. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>can we know it's not about that, It's like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is your last chance. For most people, I think they

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<v Speaker 5>don't care. They just want to be able to say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, you know what, I don't care what she

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<v Speaker 5>looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>Or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to be able to put my hand

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<v Speaker 5>on her hand and say goodbye, say what I need

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<v Speaker 5>to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I'm a big advocate for viewing before cremation or

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<v Speaker 5>burial or whatever it is. I think it's extremely important

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<v Speaker 5>for the grief process and that journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And I figured there must be folks out there grieving.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a tough year and we all will grieve

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. So I looked up some coping advice

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<v Speaker 2>from the American Psychological Association and they cited some research

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<v Speaker 2>that most people can recover from loss on their own

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<v Speaker 2>through the passage of time if they have social support

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<v Speaker 2>and healthy habits. But also they stress that there's no

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<v Speaker 2>normal time period for someone to grieve. It's really individual.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that was reassuring was they said that

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<v Speaker 2>research tells us that it can also be the catalyst

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<v Speaker 2>for a renewed sense of meaning that offers purpose and

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<v Speaker 2>direction to life. They say it can really help to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with friends or colleagues about your grief, and isolation

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<v Speaker 2>or avoidance of your support systems can just and really

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<v Speaker 2>delay healing. So talk. It's okay to talk, and remember

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<v Speaker 2>the person also feel your feelings and allow them, even

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a range of emotions from anger to sadness. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>take care of yourself, get sleep and eat well, and

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<v Speaker 2>get some exercise if you can. They say. It also

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<v Speaker 2>might help to reach out to other people grieving the

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<v Speaker 2>same person, as helping someone else can get you through

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<v Speaker 2>the grieving process too. And to remember and celebrate the

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<v Speaker 2>life of the deceased. Take the chance to remember milestones

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<v Speaker 2>in their lives, birthdays, anniversaries even after they're gone. And

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<v Speaker 2>you may also want to seek out a counselor to

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<v Speaker 2>help you chat about and process what you're going through.

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<v Speaker 2>And though it may be very individual, Monica says that

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<v Speaker 2>a visitation can help with accepting and processing the loss.

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<v Speaker 2>She's found. Is that possible with COVID patients And do

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<v Speaker 2>you get a lot of COVID patients?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know this has been something that hasn't it's

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<v Speaker 5>so new and people don't understand it. So you have

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<v Speaker 5>to remember go back to what I was talking about

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<v Speaker 5>in those three steps to the embalming process. The first

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<v Speaker 5>and most important step is disinfection. So by disinfecting the body,

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<v Speaker 5>we're completely eradicating any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Virus that's intact or active or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So it's actually more dangerous to have unembombed bodies

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<v Speaker 5>laying around than embalmed bodies when it comes to COVID.

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<v Speaker 5>In my personal opinion, the families can absolutely see their

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<v Speaker 5>loved one who has been embalmed. Absolutely now touching and

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<v Speaker 5>kissing and all that. I wouldn't recommend, just like now

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<v Speaker 5>you wear a mask and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But for families your.

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<v Speaker 5>Loved one dies of COVID, absolutely you can see your

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<v Speaker 5>loved one, and I would recommend embalming for those cases. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have a loved one that has died of COVID, embalming,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, yes, please do that, because if, like

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<v Speaker 5>I said, if you're going to let that infection fester

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<v Speaker 5>and whatever, there's more of a chance there may be

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<v Speaker 5>spread or the people that are working on the body

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<v Speaker 5>may be affected, the embalmbers themselves, the fun directors, the transporters.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, they are difficult cases, absolutely, but we deal

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<v Speaker 5>with many difficult cases like that. So you have to remember,

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<v Speaker 5>as in bombers, we are the most prepared for these

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<v Speaker 5>types of cases than really anyone else. So I deal

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<v Speaker 5>with merca cases, I deal with all types of infectious diseases,

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<v Speaker 5>not just COVID diseases that I'm way more afraid of

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<v Speaker 5>than COVID, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest, And you've never caught anything from I haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also I'm an advocate for using personal protection equipment,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm one of the few embombers I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>really public that has been using a full face respirator

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<v Speaker 5>for years.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been using one for years, and I teach that

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<v Speaker 4>in my embombing classes for my students as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Monica, for a visual, has high cheekbones and eyebrows arched

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a fifties pin up. One side of

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<v Speaker 2>her black hair is shaved at the temple, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>usually working in hot pink scrubs or a lab code

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<v Speaker 2>with her skull and crossbones company logo embroidered in fusia,

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<v Speaker 2>and her smile is under there, but it's obscured by

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<v Speaker 2>the full face respirator. She usually wears a clear face

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<v Speaker 2>shield as well. But she's more stylish draining fluids than

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<v Speaker 2>I am. Right now, as I'm recording this, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Promise I wear shrubs, and I wear appropriate attire and

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<v Speaker 5>the gowns and gloves and all that, so I feel

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<v Speaker 5>very prepared to deal with any of the infectious and

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<v Speaker 5>blood worm pathogens.

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<v Speaker 2>Has your work changed the way that you look at

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<v Speaker 2>your own life or living in the moment or brutality

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<v Speaker 2>or post mortem plans.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, totally absolutely, Oh for sure. Like I try

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<v Speaker 5>as to whole grudges so much anymore. It's I Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I try to live for today. Honestly, I really do,

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<v Speaker 5>like I say I love you to pretty much everyone,

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, I never want to, like have that

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<v Speaker 5>be the last call.

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<v Speaker 4>And I didn't say I love you to like my

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<v Speaker 4>friends and the people that I really do care about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I try not to get too wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 5>the things that really in the big picture that aren't important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So Yeah, I'm also not as that's the word.

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<v Speaker 5>I think people get wrapped up with like material things

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<v Speaker 5>and buying this and buying that, And I think I

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<v Speaker 5>value like my friendships and my family a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>than that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the old you can't take it with you time

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<v Speaker 2>of a week?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Can I ask you listener questions?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, let's do it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The first a little break to hear about sponsors of

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<v Speaker 2>the show giving you some deals which lets us donate

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<v Speaker 2>called High Precious, which she established to help break down social,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now on to your dark and sunny and carry questions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I let them know you're coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh great.

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<v Speaker 2>So they submitted like hundreds of questions and I've boiled

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<v Speaker 2>them down to the awesome. So Melanie Baker, Jessica Morgan,

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<v Speaker 2>Emily Tudorace, Amy Meager, Grace Robichet, Lynn and Dori Jennifer Lowe,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them all had questions about the type

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<v Speaker 2>of makeup that you use. And they want to know

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<v Speaker 2>if you use your own makeup or if you use

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<v Speaker 2>makeup that belonged to the deceased. Are there different like

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<v Speaker 2>specific brands if you're working with a corpse, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you use? What's in your kit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So everybody wants to know this, So every case

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<v Speaker 5>is different for those that are listening, every case is different.

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<v Speaker 5>And I do always ask for the family to bring

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<v Speaker 5>that person's makeup in because that is super helpful. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if you're a woman that wears makeup, you

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<v Speaker 5>know it's like that a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>women's lifeline right, So yes, absolutely, I ask for people

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<v Speaker 5>to bring in the person's makeup. However, dead bodies that

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<v Speaker 5>we use makeup that is non thermogenic, and that's what

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<v Speaker 5>works best on dead bodies. There is no heat being

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<v Speaker 5>produced by the body, so a lot of the makeups

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<v Speaker 5>that we use as women in our everyday lives don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Really have the same reaction.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I try to do is I use my

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<v Speaker 5>non thermogenic makeups. Right now, I've started to use a

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<v Speaker 5>product by Lola seven. So lady, she's a funeral director

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<v Speaker 5>and a bomber. She's created her own makeup line and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's absolutely fabulous. I've never used it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not just plugging her like I've never used a

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<v Speaker 5>makeup like that, because it actually smells really, really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>She's done a really nice job.

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<v Speaker 5>So I do use Lola seven for some very difficult

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<v Speaker 5>coverage issues when there's bruising or post mortem staining.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Post mortem staining, I just looked it up. AKA liver

637
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 2>mortis or blue death is when blood pools in parts

638
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<v Speaker 2>of the body and leaves a dark modeled purple splash

639
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<v Speaker 2>under the skin. Why to kind of make sure that

640
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>clients on her table get the good stuff to cover

641
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it up because drugstores at concealer get out of here,

642
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do the job.

643
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<v Speaker 5>And then I also use my traditional mortuary pigments that

644
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 5>our old school chemical companies make. Dodge Company is known

645
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 5>for their cosmetics line, and I use theirs quite.

646
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 4>A bit as a base.

647
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 5>And I also use a product called Necrometics and PMRC,

648
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 5>so those are kind of like special effects makeup to

649
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 5>cover any kind of major like camouflage. I also use

650
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 5>an airbrush when it's needed, and the airbrush I don't

651
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 5>use for like bridle makeup, I use that for like

652
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 5>really severe cases, traumatic cases where I need a good coverage.

653
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 5>So what I try to do is I use my

654
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 5>mortuary makeup to create a foundation for a lifelike appearance.

655
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 5>So I basically am just bringing them up to an

656
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 5>appearance of like maybe when they got out of the

657
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 5>shower and they're getting ready to put their makeup on,

658
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 5>and then after that is when I take their makeup

659
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.760
<v Speaker 5>bag out and then I work my magic with their makeup.

660
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh do you ever have to ask the family like

661
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of these lips, how do you know if someone would

662
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>want a bold lip for the goodbye or like a

663
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 2>peachy nude exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I try to do is when I when

665
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I sit down with the family, I ask them for pictures,

666
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 5>and I say, find a picture that you really like

667
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 5>your mom's, your sisters, your brother, whoever, how you really

668
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 5>like their makeup, and you bring me that picture and

669
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to try and recreate that. So if you

670
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 5>want your mom's hurt to look this certain way but

671
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 5>her makeup to look another way, then I need two different.

672
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Pictures, right So, and families are pretty good about it.

673
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 5>They usually bring in one picture and they're like, you know,

674
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 5>this was like my brother's wedding or something, and my

675
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 5>mom absolutely loved the way that the makeup artists did

676
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 5>her makeup. Or this is how my mom always wore

677
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 5>her makeup.

678
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 4>Can you do it like this? And that's what I

679
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 4>try to accomplish.

680
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Kyla Kelly and Naomi Tassane both wanted to know if

681
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 2>family members ever request to do their makeup, and that's

682
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 2>something that even even happens.

683
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so there are a lot of family members that

684
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 5>do want to participate.

685
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 4>And I actually teach a class. It's called the.

686
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Family assisted dress experience, and I teach other funeral directors

687
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 5>how to engage families so that the family can be

688
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 5>a part of that process. Start teaching that class in

689
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 5>twenty fifteen, and basically it teaches the funeral director how

690
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 5>to guide the family so that the family can do

691
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 5>the hair and the makeup and the nails.

692
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.079
<v Speaker 4>And even dress their loved one.

693
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 5>So but that's a service, like you pay for that,

694
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, you pay your funeral director for that service.

695
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 5>But yes, absolutely families can be a part of that

696
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 5>and dress their loved one and do the makeup and

697
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 5>all that. The one thing I would recommend is that

698
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, they ask that the funeral director or embomber

699
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 5>to help them through that process because it's not only

700
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 5>technically can be difficult with discoloration after death and the

701
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 5>condition of the skin after death, that can be difficult,

702
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 5>and an embomber is trained on that, you know, on

703
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 5>how to work with those challenges, but also emotionally, like

704
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 5>you think you can do it and then you get

705
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 5>in there and you're like, oh, man, I don't know

706
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 5>if I can do this. Yeah, So that's why I'm

707
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 5>going to go back to like finding the right professional

708
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 5>finding the right funeral home and funeral director, just like

709
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 5>you would find a dentist or a doctor or a

710
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 5>hairstylist and have them in your back pocket, like you

711
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.320
<v Speaker 5>know already this is the person who is going to

712
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 5>take care of my family or you know, my loved one.

713
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to think about, it really is, But when

714
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 5>you're going through it, you don't want to be having

715
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 5>to make those decisions at that time.

716
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 2>So read some Yale pages. Ask your most goth friends

717
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>or maybe the people in your life who like voted

718
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>early and have an earthquake kit and just generally have

719
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>their shit together. Have you ever had anyone interview you

720
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 2>while they are still alive? What do you mean, like

721
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, things aren't looking so great?

722
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yes, you to do it, like like for pre

723
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 5>arrangements and whatnot. Absolutely, so, like many people don't realize

724
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 5>that funeral directors often do pre arrangements, and so you

725
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 5>can pre arrange your funeral with your funeral directors. So absolutely,

726
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 5>I have families that come in and talk to me

727
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 5>and say, hey, Monica, I want to plan everything now

728
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 5>so that.

729
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 4>You know exactly what to do when I die.

730
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 2>And so like I looked amazing here, I'd like this

731
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>y pokey.

732
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 5>I m h. Absolutely, And they choose everything. They can

733
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 5>choose their casket or whether they want a shroud, or

734
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 5>if they they want a bronze casket, or if they

735
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 5>want to be cremated, and like we do everything, We

736
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 5>all the details.

737
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 4>You pick the urn.

738
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 5>Say you don't want a funeral, hearsey, I want to

739
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 5>be in a horse drawn carriage.

740
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh fancy, fancy.

741
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 4>So we can plan all that in advance.

742
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 5>You can even pay for it in advance too, with

743
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 5>like funeral insurance.

744
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people don't know that. But the one

745
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 4>thing I would say is that you don't have to

746
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 4>pay to do funeral arrangements.

747
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of people have that misconception that they

748
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.039
<v Speaker 5>have to pay for their funeral if they go and

749
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 5>talk to a funeral director about that, and that's not true.

750
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh you can yeah, yeah, yeah, you can go in

751
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 4>and you may.

752
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 5>And funeral directors love that because then it's just so

753
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 5>much like they already know what to do.

754
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they already know.

755
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 5>They pull your file and this is what you know

756
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 5>Shelley wants and we already talked about it. Her signature's

757
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.239
<v Speaker 5>right here. That takes the pressure off the family. They

758
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 5>don't have to make decisions.

759
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 4>All they have to do is pay.

760
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, just pick up the tab pre ordered it, Yep,

761
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>yep ordering It's like ordering Indian food. Yeah, he chose everything.

762
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Just pick up the tab.

763
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

764
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:31.559
<v Speaker 4>You can even do it online.

765
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 5>I have colleagues that do it online now, so families

766
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 5>don't even.

767
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:35.519
<v Speaker 4>Have to go in the funeral home.

768
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yeah, so smart.

769
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

770
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>On that note, I got so many questions from so

771
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>many amazing listeners. Jacob Blizzard first time question asker, have

772
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you ever prepared a full clown in makeup? Jeffrey Bradshaw

773
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>wants to know if anyone ever asked to be made

774
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 2>up as a character. There is one question JV Hampton

775
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>V sant let's know if I wanted to say be

776
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Bury looking like a Dolly Parton drag impersonator? Is that

777
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a request? Tarn wants to know if they could go

778
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 2>out and drag makeup? And I really loved this one question.

779
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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to patron Felix Wolf who asked, do you

780
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 2>try to mimic the makeup style or aesthetic of the

781
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 2>deceased as a queer? Freako I would want my makeup

782
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to reflect what I wore in my life and not

783
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.639
<v Speaker 2>an idea of normal makeup. Felix, I love you. Yeah

784
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>is that cool?

785
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 4>So it's totally cool.

786
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 5>But like I said, you have to find the right

787
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 5>funeral director, right, because so politics play a big deal

788
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 5>in everyone's life. For everyone is you want to make

789
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 5>sure that you're going to somebody who understands like what

790
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 5>you want, and that they also respect your own views

791
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 5>and the way that you live your lifestyle. So like,

792
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 5>for example, my best friend David passed away from cancer

793
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:45.719
<v Speaker 5>a few years ago.

794
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 4>When they told him you're.

795
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Terminally ill, he came to me and he's like, I

796
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:50.119
<v Speaker 5>want to plan all this out, and so we.

797
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 4>Started doing that. And he was gay. He was a

798
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<v Speaker 4>gay man, but he was like not just a gay man, he.

799
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<v Speaker 5>Was like a fabulous gay man and like everybody knew

800
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<v Speaker 5>that his nickname was Barbie and yeah, so everybody knew

801
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 5>how fabulous David was. And I wanted to make sure

802
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 5>that he went out just as fabulous as he could.

803
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 4>And so we talked about that and he's like Wonica.

804
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 5>He's like, please, oh my god, please do not let

805
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 5>me go out without a tan and because he loved

806
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 5>to be tan, and he lived in Florida and he

807
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 5>loved to be tan. And you know, he was like,

808
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 5>make sure that my highlights are on point, and please

809
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 5>make sure that I have a tan. And so we

810
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 5>did that. Like I made sure that I gave him

811
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 5>a spray tan.

812
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 4>And he wanted glitter all around his suit.

813
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 5>He had a white suit that he picked out and

814
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 5>this like beautiful, bright colored shirt.

815
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 4>I made sure he had glitter on the flower.

816
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 5>I made him a flower corsage and it had like

817
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 5>glitter on it, and made sure that his highlights were

818
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.199
<v Speaker 5>like on point. Yes, if you want to look like

819
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Dolly Parton, you can do that, but you need to

820
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 5>call him, Monica, you.

821
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Need to call me. You need to say, you know,

822
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 4>you need to find a funeral director. Really though.

823
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 5>You need to find a funeral director that understands that

824
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 5>and that they can offer you that service.

825
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 4>That you want. So it just takes a little bit

826
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 4>of legwork, but absolutely it can be done.

827
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<v Speaker 5>If you want to look like a cartoon character, if

828
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<v Speaker 5>you want to go out and cosplay or whatever, like,

829
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 5>yes you can do that, but you need it first

830
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 5>of all, you need to express that to your family

831
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 5>and make sure that your family understands. You need to

832
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 5>have it in writing, and you need to find a

833
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 5>funeral director that's going to honor your wishes and that

834
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 5>has the skills to do that, because you know, not

835
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 5>everybody can do drag makeup.

836
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<v Speaker 4>It's not easy.

837
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>You're born naked and the rest is drag.

838
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 5>So no, yeah, it's not easy. So you want to

839
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.599
<v Speaker 5>make sure that you have the right people in place.

840
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 5>If that really truly is your wish, you need to

841
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 5>put it in writing. Make sure that you have the

842
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 5>right professionals and place, and that your family fully understands

843
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 5>your requests.

844
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Several people Tammy Forton, Molly rose, Ky Siebert, Heidi

845
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>stootion Off and Elaine Lemarande. Who's the first time question

846
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<v Speaker 2>asker wants to know HBO series six Feet Under? Did

847
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<v Speaker 2>they get it right? Was it flim flam?

848
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<v Speaker 4>Why do people have to die? It's Mike life important?

849
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Hew. Do you wants to know if you ever imagine

850
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>having full on conversations with the deceased or Tammy wants

851
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to know if do you ever just talk to the

852
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.760
<v Speaker 2>person while you're doing them up, either out louder in

853
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 2>your head.

854
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, those are all like really common questions that I get.

855
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 4>First of all, I'm sorry to disappoint you all, I

856
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 4>never watched Six Feet Under. Sorry, I just don't. I

857
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 4>don't watch shows like that. I'm like, I'm like a

858
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 4>super nerd.

859
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Like I watch like really like.

860
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Like documentaries on like the history of food or something like.

861
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm really into nutrition and fitness, so I typically spend time, like.

862
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, watching those kind of shows or like history.

863
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 5>So sorry, I don't know if they got it right

864
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 5>or not. As far as conversations with the dead, yeah,

865
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 5>I do.

866
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 4>I do have.

867
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 5>Conversations with them sometimes. My most favorite one would be like, uh.

868
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, help help me, help you.

869
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, if I have a body that's you know,

870
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 5>giving me a hard time and I'm not able to

871
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 5>like really get the effect that I'm going for, I

872
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 5>tell them like help me help you, or you know.

873
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I'll say, you know, we're gonna get you where

874
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 5>you're going, Like I'm gonna help your family through this,

875
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 5>and you're gonna look beautiful. That's something I always I

876
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 5>do a lot is I'll be like, you're gonna look

877
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:22.760
<v Speaker 5>so great, You're really beautiful.

878
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if that's more for me, But yeah,

879
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 4>I do.

880
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 5>I have those kind of like little conversations every once

881
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 5>in a while.

882
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 4>For sure, it's Mollie in there.

883
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a few people had some questions that I'm sure

884
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you get a lot. They're probably afraid to ask, but

885
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Molly and Sadie want to know, eyeballs, do you have

886
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 2>to close them? Do you have to sew like in lips?

887
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Karen wanted to show this. Do you have to close

888
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the lips or the eye out?

889
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 4>Does that work?

890
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

891
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so that's super technical and a lot of people

892
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 5>are weirded out by that kind of stuff. But so

893
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 5>sometimes I'll get a body in and their eyes are

894
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 5>already closed and their mouth is closed, and so I don't.

895
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Really have to do anything.

896
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Ninety percent of the time, we do have to close

897
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 5>the people's eyes, and we do have to.

898
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 4>Close their mouth.

899
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 5>And so there is a surgical procedure that we do,

900
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 5>and it's it's a suturing procedure, and you have to

901
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 5>think of it like you're going to the dentist. So

902
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 5>people get so weird a out about it. But I'm like, you, guys,

903
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 5>this is plastic surgery on the debt.

904
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 4>That's all it is.

905
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So basically it's a it's a surgical procedure where

906
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 5>we go in and we suture through the nose the

907
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 5>septum and down into the mouth and close the mouth

908
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 5>that way. So you know, obviously we're not using any

909
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 5>like painkillers or anything because the person is dead. But yeah,

910
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 5>so I try to like demystify that fear for people

911
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 5>or so that they don't have fear and demystify that

912
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 5>process by explaining it that way where it's a surgical

913
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 5>procedure much like plastic surgery.

914
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 4>The same with the eyes. So sometimes we.

915
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Will use a little tiny bit of adhesive just to

916
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 5>keep the inner canthus and the outer capthas like closed.

917
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 2>A canthus side note is a corner of the eye.

918
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And also I just read that some deserologists might use

919
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 2>eye caps under your lids. They look like large plastic

920
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.400
<v Speaker 2>contact lenses, but they have spikes on one side to

921
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>keep the decedent's eyes closed like they're in deep sleep.

922
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 2>And now the facial features are set before embalming in

923
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of a RESTful, pleasant expression. Although it has kind

924
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>of left me wondering if anyone's ever been asked to

925
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>be presented if they're just like mid afternoon nap with

926
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.199
<v Speaker 2>a rumpled shirt and a remote control in one hand,

927
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe a pool of drool on a couch cushion under

928
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 2>their head. Anyway, sometimes they do dab a little glue

929
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 2>to keep you from looking alert. It's not what you want.

930
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 4>Not always though.

931
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 5>If the embombing process goes very well, you don't have

932
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 5>to use any kind of adhesive at all.

933
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so that tissue will firm in that position,

934
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 4>which is what we're really after.

935
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I didn't know that.

936
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

937
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Do people do they die with an expression on their face?

938
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes? Yeah, yeah.

939
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.199
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I'll get somebody and that has a little smirk

940
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 5>or something like that.

941
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 4>And usually by the time the.

942
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Person has gotten to me at the mortuary, any kind

943
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 5>of rigor mortis has gone away, and so they're in

944
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 5>a natural position.

945
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 2>And not that this was something I thought I would

946
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>ever learn, but there are stages that the body goes

947
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 2>through after your spirit flies off into heaven filled with

948
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>frogs and friendly possums and your grandpa and all you

949
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>can eat lactose free gelato and hammocks. So the first

950
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>stage after you die is pallor mortis, where circulation stops

951
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and skin looks lighter and pallid. Then there's alger mortis,

952
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>where the body comes to ambient room temperature just cools

953
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>off like leftovers. And then rigor mortis, in which the

954
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>muscles different from a lack of ATP to relax them.

955
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>And this rigor mortis stage starts about twelve hours after

956
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>death at last a few days and then the muscles

957
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>begin to decompose and the body relaxes again. And then

958
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 2>there's liver mortis, that purplish staining, which can start as

959
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 2>soon as twenty minutes after death. I also found it

960
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 2>very sweet to learn that during embalming, the deserologist or

961
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>embalmer won't massage the body just to keep things flowing.

962
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 2>And it's sort of like a final pampering spa day,

963
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, like one of the naked spas. But yes,

964
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Monica says that by the time she works on them,

965
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the limbs and the muscles are pretty flippity floppity chill.

966
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Those are not her words, but.

967
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, people die with their mouth open a lot. I mean,

968
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 5>you relax, every muscle relaxes, so you know, we do

969
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of like when you're sleeping, you know, sometimes you

970
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 5>sleep with your mouth open.

971
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of the same thing.

972
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Catch and flies. We've all done it.

973
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no horrified looks, though I don't really have recollection

974
00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 5>of any like horrified expressions.

975
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was worried about that.

976
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 5>I was like, yeah, no, that's not something that I've seen.

977
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 2>And then Wendy Miles and Lulu Hall both wanted to

978
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 2>know if there is a smell or if that is

979
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 2>even an issue. I guess Also, you're wearing a mask,

980
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>so that is that a thing.

981
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.800
<v Speaker 4>The smells are yes, so that is one thing for sure.

982
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 4>That is.

983
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely like decomposition has a smell, and dead human

984
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 5>bodies have a smell, much like when you walk into

985
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 5>the hospital. So those smells from the hospital they do

986
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.719
<v Speaker 5>carry over into the mortuary. So there is you know,

987
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.639
<v Speaker 5>the bodily fluids that are produced. Yeah, all of that

988
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:45.000
<v Speaker 5>very clinical hospital smells, and then that's paired with the

989
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 5>smells of decomposition.

990
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 4>I try to.

991
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Explain it to people like if you've ever had a

992
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 5>steak in your refrigerator and gone away for the weekend

993
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 5>and you come back and you open the refrigerator up,

994
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 5>and you're like, ooh, that's definitely like there's something bad

995
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 5>in there smell. So that smell is kind of like

996
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:06.519
<v Speaker 5>what it's like, but on a grand scale, right, Yeah,

997
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 5>so I think it's important also to point out that

998
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 5>the embombing process retards that smell. So you know, that's

999
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 5>why it's like, Okay, let's get these people a bomb

1000
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 5>so that we don't have those smells.

1001
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 4>There's no offensive odor for the family.

1002
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 5>And to be honest, working, you know, as a professional,

1003
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 5>like I don't want to smell those smells either.

1004
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 4>They can get a little stinky.

1005
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Bubury had a great question. Is makeup done differently

1006
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>on deceased people of color? Products for darker complexions weren't

1007
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>widely available before the seventies.

1008
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, so it's totally different. And also it's important

1009
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 5>to remember that another fascinating and amazing thing about embombing

1010
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 5>is that we can cosmetize a deceased person from the

1011
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 5>inside out.

1012
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 4>What it's so.

1013
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 5>Cool, It is super cool, especially if you can really

1014
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.239
<v Speaker 5>as an en bomber, if you can master that technique,

1015
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 5>it's really neat.

1016
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 4>So what we do is we add a die additive

1017
00:50:59.599 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 4>to the.

1018
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Bombing fluid, and whether that person is Caucasian or black,

1019
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 5>we have different types and colors of dye that we

1020
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 5>can use, and when it's done right, it is really beautiful,

1021
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 5>like the person's skin tone is just it's it comes.

1022
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Out really nice. You can do that.

1023
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 5>But then also the cosmetics that we use. If it's

1024
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 5>topically that we're talking about, Lola seven, like I said,

1025
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 5>it's a very modern type brand of mortuary makeup is

1026
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 5>actually created by a black lady who she's a black

1027
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.159
<v Speaker 5>funeral director, and so that was something I think that

1028
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 5>she brought to the game that was really valuable to

1029
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 5>me is that she brought different palettes of different complexion types.

1030
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Cool. Oh and if you want to look up Lola seven,

1031
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the seven is spelled se numeral seven een and they're

1032
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram at Lola seven Cosmetics. I started poking around

1033
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>their cosmetics site and for a second, I was like, Oh,

1034
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 2>that's a great coral lip palette, and then I remembered

1035
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.679
<v Speaker 2>it will hopefully be a very long time before I

1036
00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:58.320
<v Speaker 2>get to wear it.

1037
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I have all over palettes, and I have

1038
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 5>so any kind of complexion, whether they're black or Asian

1039
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 5>or Hispanic or Caucasian.

1040
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I have all of those different types of foundation.

1041
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Colors, Oh that's great.

1042
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I.

1043
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 5>Do I do have to say I do try to

1044
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 5>cosmetize through internally first, because less is more when it

1045
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 5>comes to mortuy makeup in my opinion, And.

1046
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's also just a good lesson. Like, you know,

1047
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 2>if you want your skin to look great while you're alive,

1048
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:27.760
<v Speaker 2>drink a lot of smoothies. Yeah, a lot of bit

1049
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 2>your vitamins hydrate exactly, and the best that I feel

1050
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>like the best skin cream is just drinking water.

1051
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.440
<v Speaker 4>You're absolutely right. I have to agree with you.

1052
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm that A few people wanted to know if you've

1053
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 2>had any really strange requests. Cassie Flint and Ariel Jade

1054
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 2>asked if you've just had like a really strange request

1055
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that either cut you off guard or was a challenge.

1056
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1057
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 5>So I think the most interesting strange request was I

1058
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 5>had a young lady who passed to and she was

1059
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:04.760
<v Speaker 5>an exotic dancer obviously like a young girl, very beautiful,

1060
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 5>and she didn't really have a family, so her work

1061
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 5>family was like the people that were taking care of

1062
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 5>her arrangements, and they wanted to have her prepared in

1063
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 5>her costume like her oh.

1064
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Her dancing costumes. So and I'm fine with that. I mean,

1065
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I will honor anyone's wishes within reason, right, But the.

1066
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Issue that I had was that, you know, it's so

1067
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 5>much of her skin that was showing that that's a

1068
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 5>lot of makeup and a lot it was a challenge

1069
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 5>because of the decomposition process and the way that the body,

1070
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, breaks down. A lot of that we can

1071
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 5>camouflage underclothing as morticians. So you know, I was like,

1072
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 5>you guys, I don't know if that's really like, I

1073
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 5>don't know if that's the best idea, Like that's really

1074
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.079
<v Speaker 5>that's a lot of skin, you know, that's going to

1075
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 5>be showing. And her body wasn't in the best condition

1076
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 5>as it was as far as the place that she

1077
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 5>was in the process.

1078
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 4>Of decomposition, she wasn't in a great place. However, I

1079
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do that for them.

1080
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.880
<v Speaker 5>I just didn't think it would be the best like

1081
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 5>last memory for them. And so once I explained it

1082
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 5>to them and like this is going to show and

1083
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:14.159
<v Speaker 5>this is.

1084
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 4>They were like, oh yeah, like yeah, we don't want that, yeah,

1085
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 4>you know.

1086
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 5>So I think just having that open conversation with them

1087
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 5>of like, this is what's what you're gonna see.

1088
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Is it makes people's.

1089
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 5>Minds up for them when they have that conversation and

1090
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 5>they're like, oh, I didn't think about that.

1091
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh y'all. Friends do become family. And this story just

1092
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 2>socked me right in the guts. So I hope her

1093
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 2>molecules have fed mushrooms and flowers and worms that feed

1094
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>birds that sing in the sunshine. She deserves it. I

1095
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>want to cry. How did it turn out? What did

1096
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.039
<v Speaker 2>she end up wearing? Does she end up wearing a dress?

1097
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1098
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we put her in a really pretty, like shimmery dress.

1099
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 5>It was one of her one of her costumes that

1100
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 5>she had. It just had more coverage m hm. So yeah,

1101
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:02.760
<v Speaker 5>she ended up looking really pretty on her special day.

1102
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 4>But I did have a magician one time. Really that

1103
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 4>was kind of cool. Yeah, And it was a funeral of.

1104
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 5>All magicians, so that was that was kind of cool.

1105
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 5>And they did a really nice send off for him.

1106
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 4>They had like his little hat and his little bunny

1107
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 4>and everything with him.

1108
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold the phone. Did they bury the magician with

1109
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 2>his bunny?

1110
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 4>The bunny was alive? Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

1111
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 2>But not buried with him alive?

1112
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, no no. But he was there for

1113
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 4>the service. Oh, yeah, he was. He was with him

1114
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 4>and he was there for the service. Yeah, solute emotional support.

1115
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh my gosh, did you have to hide a

1116
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>bunch of scarves and his sleeves and all that stuff?

1117
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Ah amazing. Yeah, you got to know some like real

1118
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 2>magic tricks, I'm sure.

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00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it was one of the most memorable funerals that

1120
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 5>I've had, and all the magicians that were there, and like,

1121
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 5>yeah it was. It was definitely one for the books

1122
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 5>for sure.

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00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 2>A party Corn and Jen Borlick and me handlebars want

1124
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 2>to know if you've ever had anything spooky or done

1125
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 2>right weird happen and any unexpected surprises, or if you've

1126
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>ever kind of freaked yourself out.

1127
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Spooky or unexpected surprises.

1128
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 5>Unexpected surprises would be like last day of service. I

1129
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 5>work my buns off all week trying to get you know,

1130
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 5>this body prepared in the funeral running and everything perfect,

1131
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 5>and then like the day of the service, the family

1132
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 5>has like no money to pay.

1133
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 4>So I would say that's probably the one that I'm like,

1134
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I don't.

1135
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 5>Know what, but I would say, like I know what

1136
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 5>people are after, and like spooky, I don't really have

1137
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 5>any of those stories.

1138
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I just it's not like that.

1139
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 5>I think people get so caught up and like the

1140
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.000
<v Speaker 5>movies and what they say on TV that they don't

1141
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 5>realize it's it's really like a hospital setting. Mm hmm.

1142
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like a hospital setting, and so it's

1143
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 5>very clinical and we have our cooler. Yes there's you know,

1144
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 5>bodies in our cooler. But I'm so busy that I

1145
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 5>don't have really.

1146
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 4>Time to think about like spooky stuff.

1147
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 5>I think people think that we have one body and

1148
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 5>that's it, when we in reality, we probably have like

1149
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 5>we're processing between five and twenty bodies at a time, and.

1150
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Are you going from one to the other, like depending

1151
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 2>on stages and stuff.

1152
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely absolutely. So Yeah, I know I wish I

1153
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 5>had some spooky stories. I wish I had, like I

1154
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.400
<v Speaker 5>wish I had like oh yeah this one time, like

1155
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 5>this guy like sat up and he started talking to me, or.

1156
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just not it's just that's good. I think that

1157
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:30.360
<v Speaker 2>helps people. Yeah, So I guess don't be afraid of

1158
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>funeral homes are dead people, dead people who are literally

1159
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 2>chillen in fridges right now. We're probably afraid of dead people.

1160
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 2>While they were alive, and they're just someone's cousin or

1161
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend or mom or coworker or maleman, and they all

1162
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>had birthdays and got excited about donuts in the break

1163
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 2>room and had favorite songs and a smell that reminded

1164
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.960
<v Speaker 2>them of a first love. So Monica is there to

1165
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they look amazing at the last they'll

1166
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 2>ever host kind of a bon voyage to the great beyond.

1167
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 2>But it can't all be smooth sailing for her. And

1168
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the last questions, I always ask, what is one thing

1169
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 2>about your job that is the hardest, or something that's

1170
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 2>annoying or petty, what's one thing that you hate?

1171
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 5>So my one thing I would say that's really it's

1172
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:22.360
<v Speaker 5>hard for me is that the misconceptions about embalming, what

1173
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 5>it is and why we do it and why you know,

1174
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of I want to really truly drive

1175
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:29.679
<v Speaker 5>this home to your listeners, is that there's a lot

1176
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:33.320
<v Speaker 5>of propaganda on the internet right now about like embalming

1177
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 5>is bad for the environment, and it's bad for this,

1178
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 5>and it's bad for that, and it's not the people

1179
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 5>Stop listening to embombing advice from people who don't You're

1180
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 5>not going to listen to you like take advice from

1181
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 5>a hairstylist and when you're trying to get a root

1182
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 5>canal done. Yeah, So a lot of that is just

1183
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:49.719
<v Speaker 5>it gets under my skin. Is that there's a lot

1184
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 5>of misconceptions about the embombing process.

1185
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Itself gets under her skin. That's dead worthy, right there, Brava.

1186
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 5>So just be careful with what you are listening to

1187
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.159
<v Speaker 5>you on YouTube and podcasts and people that are a

1188
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 5>lot of like the natural burial advocates and stuff like that,

1189
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:09.199
<v Speaker 5>which I love natural burial.

1190
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.639
<v Speaker 4>No, no offense to natural burial. I absolutely love it.

1191
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:16.119
<v Speaker 5>I think it's beautiful, amazing way to say goodbye. Absolutely,

1192
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 5>just be careful about what you're listening to.

1193
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, just dad word jumping into say that opinions

1194
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 2>really differ on this topic. As you can imagine, plenty

1195
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>of websites say that embalming fluid is a disgrace to

1196
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>our poo filled sewage systems. But I did find a

1197
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven paper from the University of Johannesburg titled the

1198
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Effect of Formaldehyde Use in Sanitation, which stated formaldehyde does

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00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 2>not raise any serious human health or environmental concerns provided

1200
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.159
<v Speaker 2>it is properly handled and stored. When released into the air,

1201
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the paper said, it is rapidly broken down by photolysis light,

1202
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and when released into water it's biodegraded within a few days.

1203
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So this paper went on then to discuss portapotties. Essentially,

1204
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the formaldehyde breaks down into carbon dioxide and water through

1205
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 2>the natural action of oxygen in sunlight and bacteria and heat.

1206
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 2>So good for pooh, good for you. That is not

1207
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the slogan of the Formaldehyde Commission, nor should it be.

1208
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But if you're gonna get truly pissed about formaldehyde and

1209
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 2>industry essentially, maybe get bent about resins and particle board first,

1210
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and then embalming a distant second. But if you're like

1211
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I want a natural burial, I want to return to

1212
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the earth asap I get it, I feel you completely.

1213
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>As for natural burials, you can get encased in the

1214
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 2>fetal position into a big fibrous egg that will feed

1215
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>your loamy nutrients into a tree. Or you can return

1216
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 2>to our mother by donning a mushroom suit that breaks

1217
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:53.519
<v Speaker 2>you down to grow strains of fungus. Perhaps a body

1218
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.280
<v Speaker 2>farm donation is for you. Or you can get tossed

1219
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 2>into about of concrete and thrown in the ocean to

1220
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 2>help a coral reef develop. It's your bod do what

1221
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 2>makes you happy. Just maybe let someone know what those

1222
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 2>wishes are. You can do it in a fun way.

1223
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 2>You can write a poem or singing telegram, tweet it.

1224
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You're asking me what I want? Yeah, it's your funeral.

1225
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:18.480
<v Speaker 2>What about the thing that you just love the most

1226
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 2>about your career, your job?

1227
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 5>The thing that I love most about my career and

1228
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 5>my job is that, hands down, I get to help

1229
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 5>people that are living in their darkest days. So I

1230
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 5>get to connect with people on a level that other

1231
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 5>people will never even their closest friends.

1232
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 4>And family do not get to connect with them.

1233
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 5>So I really love the fact that years after I'll

1234
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:45.679
<v Speaker 5>have families that will reach out to me and they

1235
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 5>remember every detail of the time that we spent together. Yeah,

1236
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, planning the service and the things that I

1237
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.079
<v Speaker 5>did for their loved one.

1238
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:56.199
<v Speaker 4>I just truly love connecting with people like that.

1239
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to really be a people person to

1240
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:00.159
<v Speaker 2>work with the dead, Huh.

1241
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

1242
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.840
<v Speaker 5>I think you have to have that definite like you

1243
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 5>have to have compassion, and you have to like be

1244
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:10.119
<v Speaker 5>able to be strong and like that the family's counting

1245
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 5>on you to like get them through that really horrible

1246
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 5>time in their life.

1247
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.880
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I do. I really that's my favorite part

1248
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:19.079
<v Speaker 4>of it.

1249
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, that's really great. And you're

1250
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 2>you're so respected in your field, you're just like the

1251
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.119
<v Speaker 2>person to ask about it. So I was so excited to.

1252
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Talk to you.

1253
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 5>I love that.

1254
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm so glad to get some of your time.

1255
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I know. Unfortunately it's busy season for you.

1256
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is so, because it is.

1257
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 5>It is a busy, fast moving kind of pace here

1258
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:47.800
<v Speaker 5>and we're going into our busy season as far as

1259
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 5>deaths is concerned. I have for your listeners or anybody else,

1260
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I have a link set up on my website for

1261
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 5>the general public, and I do teach classes as well

1262
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.679
<v Speaker 5>for the general public. So all these questions your listeners

1263
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 5>are asking, they might want to take a class that

1264
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 5>I offer and they can engage with me and other

1265
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 5>people that are interested in the macob and learning about

1266
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:12.159
<v Speaker 5>death and a comfortable environment.

1267
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Oh. This was asked by patrons and mortuary students

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<v Speaker 2>Kayla Simpson and Kyra Die Hello, wonderful death workers. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for taking care of the people that we love. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>a few people who are in mortuary school. Ast. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have one piece of advice for someone going down

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<v Speaker 2>this path, if you could give to yourself in the

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<v Speaker 2>past or someone else starting out, any one last piece

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<v Speaker 2>of advice.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody that's going into the industry is to really thicken

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<v Speaker 5>your skin right up. Yeah, tick in your skin up.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, don't let anybody tell you that you

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<v Speaker 5>can't achieve your dreams like you, go after it. Whatever

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<v Speaker 5>your your dreams are, don't let anybody squish.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, don't let anyone squish them.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't let anyone shirts, don't let anyone squish them like yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>don't let anybody get in your way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you so so much. Keep up the amazing

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<v Speaker 2>work for those families, and make sure to get some

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<v Speaker 2>rest in between if you can.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been fin Ali, Thanks for having me, thanks for

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<v Speaker 5>reaching out, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess until next time, happy embalming.

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<v Speaker 2>So ask smart people stupid questions, and whether you want

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<v Speaker 2>to dance or wear glitter or embalm people or write

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<v Speaker 2>a novel, follow your dreams. Don't let anyone question them.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn more about Monica and her classes services, even

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<v Speaker 2>embalming uniforms. You can check out her website at next

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<v Speaker 2>Gen Mortuary. Support link is in the show notes. You

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<v Speaker 2>can follow her on Instagram and on Twitter at Cold

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<v Speaker 2>alongside one to donate to High Precious should you desire.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just frankly very bad at that. Jarrett Sleeper is

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<v Speaker 2>the assistant editor who also went to the store and

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<v Speaker 2>got me ice cream sandwiches the other day, and thus

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<v Speaker 2>Shelby canonized into Sainhood huge thanks, of course, to the

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<v Speaker 2>thread that sutures all these pieces together, Stephen Ray Morris.

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<v Speaker 2>He also hosts the Percast and c Jurassic Right to

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<v Speaker 2>Great podcasts about kiddies and Dino's. Nick Thorburn of the

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<v Speaker 2>band Islands wrote and performed the theme song and if

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to the end, I divulge something. Oh In

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<v Speaker 2>this week, I got a new watch that tracks your

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<v Speaker 2>heart rate. And y'all know I have anxiety, but I

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<v Speaker 2>try to control it with diet and medication. But out

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<v Speaker 2>of the blue last week I started to have an

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety attack and I was like, one of these, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>used to them. Later, I looked at my watch and

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<v Speaker 2>my heart rate went from resting at maybe fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>beats a minute to one sixty. It just jumped from

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<v Speaker 2>one minute to the next doing nothing. How weird is that?

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<v Speaker 2>But it's actually really nice and affirming to know that

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety isn't just me being a weenie who worries about things,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like a chemical, somatic thing. And so to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of our minds, we got to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of our bods also while they still have blood pumping

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<v Speaker 2>through them. So I've been trying to chill out a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more. Life is short, let's breathe, relax, just

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<v Speaker 2>live it minute to minute. The people you love also

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<v Speaker 2>leave a will in some instructions on what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>funeral you want. Also, one more thing. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>the album that I work the most too is Misanthroposcene

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<v Speaker 2>by Grimes. I don't know why anyway. Right as I

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<v Speaker 2>was finishing some research on embalming, Spotify shuffled in a

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<v Speaker 2>Grime song called Flesh without Blood Ooo. Spooky some real

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<v Speaker 2>ghost to the machine right there anyway. That concludes twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty Spootoverer. Also, I might just reair Pumpkins as a

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<v Speaker 2>palate cleanser as well this week. So if I do,

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<v Speaker 2>go listen to Pumpkins too, get a pumpkin, live your

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<v Speaker 2>old patology, ethology, seriology, elinology.

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