Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What? What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: What a Welcome to the Occult Rejects. We are your host.
Speaker 1: I am Jules, host of the Great Pill podcast, and
Speaker 1: this is Headless Giant, my co host another occult reject Headless.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? How are you doing today? Hi?
Speaker 3: You're doing Jules? So you can find me at the
Speaker 3: Headless Giant podcast on YouTube and on x I also
Speaker 3: post a lot there. There was a change in my
Speaker 3: schedule so now I'm doing a Monday alchemy show. So
Speaker 3: if you guys are into alchemy and you want to
Speaker 3: find out how new plant alchemy, I've got all the
Speaker 3: equipment ready and we're going to have a great time
Speaker 3: going through all of that stuff on Monday. So it's
Speaker 3: going to be really interesting to start things off.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: I got to back up to what we were doing
Speaker 3: last week. We were talking about Oristaeus and we were
Speaker 3: talking about this movie Bougonia, and I put out a
Speaker 3: scathing review of that movie on my ex account today,
Speaker 3: So if you guys want to go over to my
Speaker 3: ex account and read through that, this movie is a
Speaker 3: complete bastardization of the Bogonia ritual. And everything having to
Speaker 3: do with Greek culture, which is very ironic considering that
Speaker 3: the director is Greek himself. So the way that he
Speaker 3: characterizes this whole thing is one hundred and eighty degrees
Speaker 3: different from the original stories about it. It's more than
Speaker 3: an orphic insult towards these people. It's saying everybody has
Speaker 3: to die if you don't do what we say. So
Speaker 3: definitely check that review out because it's pathetic. Don't waste
Speaker 3: your money on the movie. Uh, it's it's really bad,
Speaker 3: uh don't. I mean, like, the acting was pretty good
Speaker 3: right from a lot of these people, but these are
Speaker 3: not relatable characters and it's definitely a global homo garbage
Speaker 3: shit show, so they'll watch it.
Speaker 1: But yeaheah, Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, you
Speaker 1: did go see that movie after our episode last week,
Speaker 1: and we started the episode off with a preview of
Speaker 1: that movie, and it looked pretty bizarre to say the least.
Speaker 1: But I could have guessed they were going to take
Speaker 1: something natural and bastardize it, right, That's what Hollywood does.
Speaker 1: We're definitely used to it by now. But greetings everyone
Speaker 1: in good afternoon. Yeah, I did want to say he
Speaker 1: is the host of the Headless Giant podcast and also
Speaker 1: Headless as Men Bag every Thursday. I finally got the
Speaker 1: name right, And yeah, so we are I think we're
Speaker 1: talking today about Artemis, not right, Headless.
Speaker 3: That is correct. We're talking about Artemis Diana and the
Speaker 3: relationship between that and the Rustic world. So Artemis is
Speaker 3: associated with the moon, associated with hunting, and associated with
Speaker 3: her brother Apollo. Right, So they're twins, So there's this
Speaker 3: twin aspect as well. Now the Diana in Roman mythology
Speaker 3: is less about the relationship to her brother Apollo and
Speaker 3: more about the idea that the moon is the grant
Speaker 3: of crowns and significant figures in the polity. So, uh,
Speaker 3: there's a a myth and you know a practice that
Speaker 3: James George Fraser goes into in his book series called
Speaker 3: The Golden Bough about the dying and rising gods and
Speaker 3: all these different cultures called the well this is the
Speaker 3: Golden Bow ritual. Right, So this is like the central
Speaker 3: focus of his book is he found out about this
Speaker 3: thing in Roaming culture and it fascinated him so much
Speaker 3: that he went out to all the rest of these
Speaker 3: surrounding cultures and found similar dying and Rising God myths.
Speaker 3: James George Fraser died completely penniless and whatever because he
Speaker 3: dared to question the orthodoxy when it came to the
Speaker 3: Dying and Rising God myth. He said it was not
Speaker 3: uncommon and that Christianity wasn't really unique in that regard.
Speaker 3: So he was severely punished for his interest in the
Speaker 3: ancient world. But where we get this myth is this
Speaker 3: place outside of Rome. It's a district that is dedicated
Speaker 3: to Diana. That's important, right, because at this district they
Speaker 3: would have this golden bow ritual where they crown the
Speaker 3: king of the grove. So the king of this ancient
Speaker 3: holy grove would be crowned there based upon their status
Speaker 3: as a fleeing criminal, fleeing slave, or some other things.
Speaker 3: So this freed man, either by his own actions or
Speaker 3: by the you know, actions of other people, would then
Speaker 3: go to this grove, retrieve a bow off at the
Speaker 3: top of the tree, and then fight against the current
Speaker 3: king of the grove, and whoever won to the death
Speaker 3: right would become the new king of the grove. And
Speaker 3: it sounds weird, but actually it's at the center of
Speaker 3: American life, and we just don't realize it.
Speaker 1: So one of the things the victor goes the spoils, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, it's like the theme of everything.
Speaker 3: Our presidency is the king of the grove. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 3: president is that guy? This election process is sort of
Speaker 3: like this retelling of this golden bought myth and James
Speaker 3: George Fraser didn't even make that connection. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: But if you look at the top of the Capitol building,
Speaker 3: maybe we can pull that up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah you want me to pull it up or yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure you're so. At the top of the Capitol building
Speaker 3: is this statue of freedom, this lady you of freedom? Right,
Speaker 3: and so the statue is a very important part of
Speaker 3: this thing because it's it's sitting in this Minerva like
Speaker 3: structure which is made out of the paths that go
Speaker 3: around the Capitol building.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. Now this one was It's
Speaker 3: caused a lot of controversy in the day because the
Speaker 3: president of the South, right, so the guy who is
Speaker 3: commanding the Southern forces, insisted that she cannot wear the
Speaker 3: hat of the freed slave, which is the Phrygian cap.
Speaker 1: That's a phoenix on her head.
Speaker 2: Bro, that is a.
Speaker 3: Phoenix on her head, yeah right, Yeah, but this figure
Speaker 3: that they're showing here is sort of this Diana type figure, right.
Speaker 3: Statue of Freedom is really really close to the Columbia
Speaker 3: type goddess, which we're in the district of Columbia, just
Speaker 3: like the district of Diana. And so Columbia is a
Speaker 3: syncretism with Diana, right. So it goes through a couple
Speaker 3: other phases over the years in terms of the literary
Speaker 3: syncretisms that they make. So Libertas would be another goddess
Speaker 3: of the Roman pantheon that is associated with Columbia.
Speaker 1: Does this have to do with the Statue of Liberty
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 3: Well, Statue of Liberty is a little bit different. She
Speaker 3: doesn't have some of the same things. But as you
Speaker 3: can see if you go through some of the other
Speaker 3: pictures there, like the one with her standing in front
Speaker 3: of the capitol, right, this is when they were doing
Speaker 3: the restoration. You can tell that she's got this Indian
Speaker 3: cloak that she's wearing, right, So this is like a
Speaker 3: symbol of the frontiers. Right. She's a rustic goddess. She's
Speaker 3: not just this goddess of liberty. She's also a goddess
Speaker 3: of the frontier. And if you look through all of
Speaker 3: the depictions of Columbia in popular media as this figure
Speaker 3: of you know, westward expansion, you also have that frontier
Speaker 3: sort of spirit as well. So Columbia, Diana, Artemis, they're
Speaker 3: all kind of in this frontier or you know, rustic
Speaker 3: goddess motif. Right, And so she's standing on top of
Speaker 3: the whole world, which is also very important there. This
Speaker 3: is the globist crucicker idea. They're saying, we are the
Speaker 3: global empire, right. What they're saying is that, you know,
Speaker 3: she's the She's the goddess who gives us strength to
Speaker 3: go forward and conquer everything. Right, So it's it's less
Speaker 3: about hunting and more about like hunting people. You know,
Speaker 3: we can we can subjugate all of the people under
Speaker 3: this goddess of freedom. Freedom. But Jefferson Davis was very,
Speaker 3: very adamant, and he actually led a whole coalition to
Speaker 3: people to make sure that she didn't have the cap
Speaker 3: of the freed slave, the Frygian cap on her head.
Speaker 3: But these are egle feathers again, and this is more
Speaker 3: of an egle motif. Can you pull up a overview
Speaker 3: of the Capitol building. This is also really important because
Speaker 3: what's under the capitol.
Speaker 1: Don't don't get me started with the Ossyrian tomb under
Speaker 1: the capitol.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's not that it's got to be zoomed out
Speaker 3: more because in the paths around it you can see
Speaker 3: this massive owl structure.
Speaker 1: Hold on all right.
Speaker 3: If you just because like they try to obscure it,
Speaker 3: they try to hide it. But this owl is this
Speaker 3: here we go, there we go. Yeah, So turn that,
Speaker 3: you know, sixty degrees up and then you'll see or
Speaker 3: not sixty but nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the owl's head right here, right, the two eyes.
Speaker 3: Right, that's the belly right in the capitol itself, and
Speaker 3: then literally the belly of the beast. Now this is
Speaker 3: the same kind of owl like figure that you see
Speaker 3: out of Bohemian groves. So between the owl on this
Speaker 3: side and the owl on that side, everything is being watched, right,
Speaker 3: So this is the idea we see at night. We
Speaker 3: have the wisdom to see what you don't, and this
Speaker 3: is a good example of that because if you're not
Speaker 3: looking at this geoglyph, that's a geoglyph, right, just like
Speaker 3: the you know in South America where they you know,
Speaker 3: made all these structures in the desert that people could
Speaker 3: only see from above. That's what this is. It's a
Speaker 3: geoglyph that can only be seen from above. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna be able to see it down walking around on
Speaker 3: the paths themselves. That's important. That's part of their magic,
Speaker 3: you know, when they say, hey, America is a based
Speaker 3: on Christian ideals or whatever, you got to bring up
Speaker 3: stuff like this. This is part of their religion. So
Speaker 3: this is the wisdom to see.
Speaker 2: In the dark.
Speaker 1: Minerva, right, right?
Speaker 3: Do you have Google Maps, because we could just zoom
Speaker 3: right out from Google Maps and go over to the
Speaker 3: other let other angles.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Google Maps so fast, I do
Speaker 1: you want to keep talking?
Speaker 3: You got it? So what's also important about this is
Speaker 3: that the direction it's facing is the west, So the
Speaker 3: east side is the top of the owl's head as
Speaker 3: the sun's coming out. Just Washington, d C. And zooming
Speaker 3: on that Capitol building. And we'll keep going down the
Speaker 3: line further west.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 3: And again, district of Diana, right, Diana nemorensis this Diana
Speaker 3: place in Rome right is very closely associated to this
Speaker 3: place in America via the symbolism. So we're seeing the
Speaker 3: Diana symbolism right there in Washington, d C. Right on
Speaker 3: top of the Capitol building, very Diana like figure. And
Speaker 3: also this Diana nemorensis right, and memorensis is this Lake Nemi, right,
Speaker 3: That's where the grove was at is at this Lake
Speaker 3: Nemi in Rome, and this is where the ritual would
Speaker 3: take place. Now, Nero is the one that rigged it.
Speaker 3: He rigged the ritual and then destroyed it for Rome. Right,
Speaker 3: So he wanted to get his guy as sort of
Speaker 3: like the spiritual head of the Roman religion by rigging
Speaker 3: the King of the Grove ritual so that his guy
Speaker 3: could be like this high priest type figure. Well, obviously
Speaker 3: it lost importance at that point. Yo, guess who it is? There?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Hey, Bud, let's going on? Sorry about You're good, you're here,
Speaker 1: glad you're here.
Speaker 3: So let's look at this map. Did you find the Capitol?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? I like, okay, where Okay? So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to okay, how that's the Washington Monument.
Speaker 2: You just pull.
Speaker 1: Directions on the map headless how how uh huh?
Speaker 3: Well if you zoom out, that that should work too.
Speaker 3: Zoom out, zoom out. All right, So the Capitol Building
Speaker 3: is right here where right, and the reflecting pool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there you go. Click on that on the Capitol.
Speaker 1: Where's the Capitol, dude, I'm bad at this.
Speaker 3: Over Okay, you've got that big green strip, that green strip.
Speaker 3: If you go to the end of that green strip,
Speaker 3: that's the Capitol building over there. Yeah, it's the it's
Speaker 3: the horizontal. Yeah, it's the one that goes right along. Yep,
Speaker 3: click on that.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Now that's where the owl is, right up there on
Speaker 3: Capitol Hill. If zoom out a little.
Speaker 1: Bit more, I see it right here on the left.
Speaker 3: Right there, right, So that's the start of the Washington Mall,
Speaker 3: this big strip going all the way over to the
Speaker 3: Lincoln Memorial right right along Constitution Avenue. Right above it,
Speaker 3: it's going all the way over to that Lincoln Memorial.
Speaker 3: That's where you've got the Veneration of Artemis. No, you
Speaker 3: gotta go west.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: It's not keep zooming out, keep zooming out.
Speaker 1: Too far, too far.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna let you do this next time.
Speaker 3: So if you go down the mall all the way,
Speaker 3: you'll hit the reflecting pool. Now, this lake Nemi is
Speaker 3: called Diana's mirror. Right, So you've got the District of
Speaker 3: Columbia with Artemis on top of the Capitol, the reflecting
Speaker 3: pool right in front of a sacrificed King Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you got that green strip right there, right,
Speaker 3: so right right, oh too far.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't know how to control this thing.
Speaker 3: Click on the capitol again. Let me see if I can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you try and do it, because this it's not
Speaker 1: letting me scroll over at all, all right, it's being weird.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, no, sir, only yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's doing.
Speaker 3: But that that east to west, that east to west
Speaker 3: road right there is Constitutional Avenue. That's what the that's
Speaker 3: what the whole thing is laid out on. That's what
Speaker 3: the Freemasons wanted the entire thing to be oriented to.
Speaker 1: H Here, I'm an if y'all want to pull it up, and.
Speaker 3: I got it, so let me share my screen here,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: So it may have to do with me having a
Speaker 1: MacBook book.
Speaker 3: So right here in the middle of this procession, this
Speaker 3: Washington Monument right here, we see the Vesica pisces. Right,
Speaker 3: So this is two big circles right there with this
Speaker 3: vagina in the middle, right, and so the vagina underneath
Speaker 3: the penis Washington Monument represents that fertility ritual.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So you've got this Lake Nemi, this fertility ritual including this,
Speaker 3: you know, these two circles around the Washington Monument creating
Speaker 3: the vesica pisces or this this vaginal canal right is
Speaker 3: right there underneath that thing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Also, they had to put the World War Two memorial
Speaker 3: right in front of that reflecting pool. They didn't want it.
Speaker 1: This was actually privately funded, so I think the Freemasons
Speaker 1: were pretty much opposed to anybody changing this Washington mall.
Speaker 1: But this reflecting pool right here, I am you see yah,
Speaker 1: the district of Columbia almost makes a perfect square. Well,
Speaker 1: if you go down here, you'll.
Speaker 3: Still find the boundary stones. This was supposed to be
Speaker 3: a cube. She's supposed to be sitting on top of
Speaker 3: the cube in her district right the city at seven Hills, Rome, Maryland. Right.
Speaker 3: So it's no wonder they would put so much detail
Speaker 3: into this Roman thing and then have this Roman temple
Speaker 3: with this sacrificed king right at the end of that
Speaker 3: huge reflecting pool. So from the White House though, right,
Speaker 3: we could see all these other shapes, like you've got
Speaker 3: this pentagram right here.
Speaker 2: I'm just I was like, yo, there's some wild stuff
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there's a compass and an apron as well.
Speaker 3: Well. The compass is actually on the on the Capitol side,
Speaker 3: if I could go out there. Yeah, so the Capital side,
Speaker 3: it's actually part of the legs of the the legs
Speaker 3: of the owl.
Speaker 1: Right, So is there a hexagram of Solomon anywhere?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's further east as well.
Speaker 1: I figure that was over there.
Speaker 3: I could give a tour. I used to live in
Speaker 3: this area, so.
Speaker 1: Please, dude, this is this is great. This is fascinating
Speaker 1: to me because because I know this exists that I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with.
Speaker 3: The This is the compass. You can see these two
Speaker 3: angles coming out from the feet of the owl right here,
Speaker 3: and then it goes out in the sixty degrees that
Speaker 3: you're used to seeing on that t square and compass
Speaker 3: with the Freemasons, and then over here, well again, right
Speaker 3: in the middle of all of this that lines up
Speaker 3: right around sixteenth Avenue right is the Washington Monument where
Speaker 3: they're having this massive secon.
Speaker 1: Dude. I see the templar cross. I see the templar cross.
Speaker 3: There are so many in this.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm all giddy from this. I feel like a
Speaker 1: school school child.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So the Star of David is, Oh where
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 3: It's gonna pop out at you keep it a minute.
Speaker 3: So it's really interesting. DC is laid out in this
Speaker 3: highly geometrically accurate fashion, but it stops at a certain point,
Speaker 3: and it stops over on the east side. Over here,
Speaker 3: there's a train yard that intersects the middle of the city,
Speaker 3: and it stops all of these geometric formations that they're
Speaker 3: trying to achieve.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Is that where the term across the tracks came from?
Speaker 3: I don't know if if that's where it.
Speaker 1: Came from, but you could apply it to that very much.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so what is the significance. Well, if you've
Speaker 3: been following the impeachment trials of Donald Trump, you'll know
Speaker 3: that they had to march the impeachment orders from the
Speaker 3: Senate over to the House in a funerary march.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: This is the symbolic death and rebirth of this King
Speaker 3: of the Grove ritual they have to have this sort
Speaker 3: of funerary procession as a ritual to ritually kill off
Speaker 3: the king currently and then bring in the new king.
Speaker 3: So it's at the heart of American politics. And nobody
Speaker 3: wants to acknowledge this stuff because it ruins a lot
Speaker 3: of illusions. And Washington Memorial is right on that same
Speaker 3: center line that goes all the way through the pa
Speaker 3: of the White House all the way up into this
Speaker 3: other stuff. Now, what's what's even more interesting is that
Speaker 3: it's not actually a pentagram. What this is is the
Speaker 3: bottom of Malcoote. This makes a giant fucking kabbala.
Speaker 2: Try.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, right.
Speaker 3: Right. They built it into the streets of your capital. Wow.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Also, why the Society the Cincinnati is so important is
Speaker 3: because the guy who designed this thing came straight through
Speaker 3: the Society of the Cincinnati. Everybody remarks that he was
Speaker 3: a Freemason, but no, he was part of the French
Speaker 3: chapter of the Society of the Cincinnati, which was the
Speaker 3: official cult repository for all of the the You know,
Speaker 3: all of the presidents, they have to join. They become
Speaker 3: members as soon as they're elected, and all of the
Speaker 3: offspring of the members of the Society of the Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: all of the male offspring all become members as well.
Speaker 3: So that is so again, these circles right here would
Speaker 3: represent represent the different sephar Right now, there's another interesting
Speaker 3: part over by.
Speaker 1: Q Street, Q streets.
Speaker 3: On Q Street, you've got the Masonic Library.
Speaker 1: Wait, it's literally called like the letter Q Street.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Seventeenth Street not too far around.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that it existed. Okay, all right, guys.
Speaker 3: So there's something you should know about the streets in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. This is gonna fuck everybody up who tries
Speaker 3: to drive around there. Every single thing is doubled, right
Speaker 3: every So you've got sixteenth Street northwest and sixteenth Street southeast.
Speaker 3: It's laid out in the pattern where they've actually taken
Speaker 3: all of these numbers and letters and then put them
Speaker 3: in different quadrants. So all of the Q or all
Speaker 3: of the letter quadrants are in one one area you know,
Speaker 3: northwest or northeast and southwest I believe, and then all
Speaker 3: of the number quadrants go from south east over to
Speaker 3: north west. So everything is doubled, which makes getting around
Speaker 3: the city fucking impossible. Yeah, I mean, these traffic circles
Speaker 3: and everything else.
Speaker 1: If I would have known that there was a Q
Speaker 1: Street in Washington, I would have known a long time
Speaker 1: ago that Q was a siop instead of finding out
Speaker 1: in a still holding the first Trump term or whatever
Speaker 1: when everyone was disappointed. Yeah you know, but yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: It kind of tells you right there, who controls that movement?
Speaker 1: You know? That's that's wild. Yeah, this is crazy, dude.
Speaker 1: This is something that I've been one to look at
Speaker 1: some I'm actually pretty happy that you pulled this up.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, this sort of exemplifies why
Speaker 3: she's so important in the Rustic pantheon is because she
Speaker 3: represents the frontier of everything, right, and to control the
Speaker 3: frontier is to have a state. You've got to have borders,
Speaker 3: You've got to have that ability. So this is at
Speaker 3: the central core of the processing unit, if you could
Speaker 3: say that, of how they you know, view themselves, how
Speaker 3: they rule the world. They have to have control over
Speaker 3: all the frontiers.
Speaker 1: Okay, that King of the Grove man, Yeah, I've I've
Speaker 1: heard that some somewhere before. Does that have anything This
Speaker 1: may be a stretch. I have anything to do with
Speaker 1: the story of Robin Hood and all that going back
Speaker 1: into the green Man or whatever.
Speaker 3: Possibly in some ways there are literary simp uh, you know, significance.
Speaker 3: But you see that maybe a king of the cross
Speaker 3: right there. It's all this cross. Now, if you wanted
Speaker 3: to get technical, that would be like this cross of
Speaker 3: hen Day right. This is the thing that decodes all
Speaker 3: of it. And you could see those two legs coming
Speaker 3: out from the owl make this giant kind of egg
Speaker 3: shape around the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Let me see that's wild. Yeah, everything is encapsulated in
Speaker 1: an egg.
Speaker 3: So you've got a cross after cross.
Speaker 1: Wow, amazing this Yeah, it kind of looks like the
Speaker 1: malty we now, well, I don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's interesting that one picture that's over to the
Speaker 2: right was like almost kind of what I was trying
Speaker 2: to explain. I think it was with you headless when
Speaker 2: I was talking about I don't know, maybe it wasn't you.
Speaker 2: The eyeballs. You have one eyeball and all this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was for the number, dude, one eyebill. The two
Speaker 2: of them, how they will Actually it takes two to
Speaker 2: make the one vision, right say, let.
Speaker 3: Me gets right there. This is the first eye and
Speaker 3: this is the second eye over here right, and you
Speaker 3: could see these two Uh, that's where that's where these cross.
Speaker 3: Right here is this other kind of vision.
Speaker 2: So damn dude, even those two about it, Like those
Speaker 2: two like even I wouldn't say sexually, but those two
Speaker 2: do create the one image too.
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, like, right, well, this
Speaker 3: one is the male the two. Yeah, this one's the male.
Speaker 3: This is the Washington Monument right here, and over here
Speaker 3: would be the female. Yeah, what's over there that's the
Speaker 3: Capital with the huge owl underneath of it.
Speaker 1: And the guys, is that where the vagina is.
Speaker 3: That's where the belly is. You know, if you think
Speaker 3: about the dome like a belly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's on that dome, isn't there like some
Speaker 1: kind of depiction of George Washington being like brought up
Speaker 1: to heaven or something.
Speaker 3: That's in the basement right there and that is actually yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's facing the top of the dome and it's
Speaker 3: called the Apotheosis of George Washington. And it's on one
Speaker 3: of the lower levels in the Capitol building. Because you know, uh,
Speaker 3: the ascension is inside of the belly. They're giving birth
Speaker 3: to the homunculus, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, the argument birth to the homunculus on George Washington.
Speaker 1: Let's pull this up real fast when I'm moving to
Speaker 1: an episode on Osiris.
Speaker 3: Right, look at the three intersecting circles right here. You've
Speaker 3: got this one, You've got this one, you know, the
Speaker 3: north circle, and then the South circle coming over the
Speaker 3: Capitol in another vagina Lincoln Square over here, and then
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln's monument over here. All of this stuff was
Speaker 3: set out so perfectly but also very impossible to fucking
Speaker 3: drive on. Oh, here's the Kabbala Trey angle right there
Speaker 3: you go, right, so that is Tiffaret.
Speaker 1: So Malco's at the bottom.
Speaker 3: Right Malcouth would be the Jefferson monument, okay, right, and
Speaker 3: then up here this would be the Tiffaret. That would
Speaker 3: be the White House, sure right, and then right here again, well,
Speaker 3: they're putting the the Phallas of George Washington right on
Speaker 3: the moon, which would go back to Artemis again.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the Thracian moon goddess. Dude Dindis, who I
Speaker 1: was reading about, kind of had a lot of the
Speaker 1: same iconography to it. Think about the Babylonian sin yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, and that's the in Sumerian story. You know,
Speaker 1: it goes back to ish Tar and sin, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Ishtar would be a version of Diana, right yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe like a dark version or something, because the
Speaker 1: Ishtar is is a pretty fucked up entity. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie the stories of Ishtar, and maybe it's how
Speaker 1: they're interpreted. I don't know how many female planets are
Speaker 1: there feminine planets, one.
Speaker 2: Which which which the planet? But I mean it's considered
Speaker 2: in the Seven Magical Planets.
Speaker 3: Ah, there you go. They called the Moon female and
Speaker 3: male and the orphic hymn to the Moon.
Speaker 2: M that's a lot of things, don't say. Hell, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you mentioned that there is a lot of male
Speaker 2: deities that are associated with the Moon. He was often
Speaker 2: consu reincarnated and that was a moon deity.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So all this transgenderism, all the rest of that
Speaker 3: stuff comes through this moon, this mercury, this hermetic type
Speaker 3: idea of the unification of the opposites, the bringing together
Speaker 3: of both female and male. It represents mastery over the world.
Speaker 1: Which I think the trans thing is just a bastardization
Speaker 1: of that, right.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right right. So you know there are cults
Speaker 3: that were really huge into this stuff, and you know,
Speaker 3: Christianity was one of them. The early Church had well,
Speaker 3: the Nician Agreement. The very first thing on the Nician
Speaker 3: Agreement was that nobody who is intentionally castrating themselves is
Speaker 3: allowed to be in the church fellowship anymore. Right, So
Speaker 3: it was a widespread problem all over Rome that these
Speaker 3: Christians kept cutting off their junk, so they had to
Speaker 3: make it clear you're not allowed to do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Origin one of the early Church fathers also self castrated,
Speaker 3: so you know, it was a very big problem back
Speaker 3: then because they thought that getting rid of any of
Speaker 3: these temptations. This actually goes into the Bogonia movie as well.
Speaker 3: Getting rid of these temptations is the only way to
Speaker 3: achieve mastery. Right. In the Bougonia movie, the main character,
Speaker 3: which is very non Ristaus like, decides that he's going
Speaker 3: to give himself and his cousin a chemical castration because
Speaker 3: they cannot be distracted by earthly or fleshly desires for
Speaker 3: sex for them to complete their mission, and so he
Speaker 3: has to give him this chemical castration stuff as he's
Speaker 3: you know, he's trying to distract him or whatever. And
Speaker 3: so this, you know, completely opposite of Aristaeus, who is
Speaker 3: like this fertility god like. He's actually bringing fertility to
Speaker 3: the world. You know, he's he's.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to cut your penis off. I
Speaker 1: want to make it bigger.
Speaker 3: You know, right. Rust the gods again, Rust the gods
Speaker 3: are very highly associated with this fertility. But there's there's
Speaker 3: two ways you can look at the male and female form.
Speaker 3: Is you're either taking off your junk or you're adding
Speaker 3: more to it. If you're adding more to it, then
Speaker 3: your self generative. Right now, you're producing alone everything in
Speaker 3: the you're creating right as opposed to the other form,
Speaker 3: which would be you've just snipped off your stuff, and
Speaker 3: so you transcend gender by reduction, which is the one
Speaker 3: that is being promoted. So you've got these two alternate
Speaker 3: ends of the coin, and the one that gets promoted
Speaker 3: in society is not the self self mastery through completing
Speaker 3: the ideas of unifying the two hemispheres of the brain,
Speaker 3: the masculine and feminine. Hea fears uh completing the personal work. No,
Speaker 3: instead of all that, why don't you just, you know,
Speaker 3: castreat yourself, which is the exact opposite of mastery. It
Speaker 3: would be complete naivity.
Speaker 1: You have to you're destroying yourself there you go, so
Speaker 1: because in doing so, you destroy not only like creation, right,
Speaker 1: but you destroy I think a part of your soul
Speaker 1: as well, an aspect that it's something you were born with, right,
Speaker 1: whatever gender you are, obviously that you Yeah, that's that's gone.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: If anybody is talking about the the transgenderism and occultism
Speaker 3: and they don't bring this up, they're basically lying to you, right,
Speaker 3: because they're not giving you the full picture about mastery
Speaker 3: and about self mastery and using these energies within yourself
Speaker 3: to become a better person. Instead, they're only telling you
Speaker 3: about the fear, the buzzwords because it's evil because whatever. Right, So,
Speaker 3: but they won't mention Yeah, they won't mention the nice
Speaker 3: end thing either. So that's also a big issue.
Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable truths man that some people, uh, you know, right,
Speaker 1: thing you should discuss. But yeah, dude, this uh trying
Speaker 1: to look for for some more. Yeah, that's crazy. That
Speaker 1: uncompleted square So was it ever completed?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Or did they not allow them to complete it?
Speaker 3: But they put the boundary stones. Sorry that well, they
Speaker 3: wanted to have a state between states, right, So the
Speaker 3: the limitation between Maryland and Virginia was huge, Like Maryland
Speaker 3: was the only Catholic state, and they really had a
Speaker 3: problem with their neighbors, like everybody else hated the Catholics, right.
Speaker 3: The Vatican actually sent a massive stone to Washington, d c.
Speaker 3: To be put in the Washington Monument, and they broke
Speaker 3: the stone and threw it in the Potomac. So there
Speaker 3: was a lot of animosity between America and Catholicism in
Speaker 3: the early days, which vanished over the years. But what
Speaker 3: they wanted to do is have these two states unified
Speaker 3: across this river and have that be the symbol of
Speaker 3: this unification of all of these different areas and what
Speaker 3: have you. But instead, Virginia became part of the South
Speaker 3: and they didn't want Washington, d c. In their regions.
Speaker 3: So it's always been this sort of uncompleted thing. But
Speaker 3: you could see right at the hearts there you go.
Speaker 3: So it's it's also funny too, where is the where's
Speaker 3: the line between the North and South? During the Civil War?
Speaker 3: Do you remember that then Mason.
Speaker 1: Dick Line was that right there?
Speaker 3: No, it was in Pennsylvania. It was between Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: So technically both capitals of these two feuding states in
Speaker 3: the Civil War were both in the South. That Mason
Speaker 3: Dixon line was supposed to extend all the way out
Speaker 3: to California in terms of slave states of free states.
Speaker 3: But that's where you have something like Bleeding Kansas happened.
Speaker 3: So there was a big feud over whether or not
Speaker 3: Kansas would be a slave state or a free state.
Speaker 3: And they had open wars going on before the Civil
Speaker 3: War with John Brown and his gang and all these
Speaker 3: other people who wanted to make a free state and
Speaker 3: the South that wanted to make it a slave state,
Speaker 3: right because they wanted to have that voting majority. When
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln was elected, they did not have that representation
Speaker 3: at all from the South up to the north, so
Speaker 3: all the South voted against Abraham Lincoln and he still
Speaker 3: won anyway. So at that point it was just basically
Speaker 3: we got to, you know, commit to war. But there
Speaker 3: was a huge gap for a long period in American
Speaker 3: history between Maryland and Virginia, right, so that little red
Speaker 3: area that's all of Virginia and this area is all Maryland.
Speaker 3: So they had to find a way to unify the opposites,
Speaker 3: and they were dead set on using this Masonic imagery
Speaker 3: as a basis because as the Civil Wars is happening.
Speaker 3: They're actually building all of this stuff in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: So it's psychologist a distraction. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: could say distraction, but I think these people had such
Speaker 1: a you know, deep knowledge of their own history that
Speaker 1: they thought by using the these symbols and these techniques
Speaker 1: and all this stuff that was in their you know,
Speaker 1: sacred geometry, sacred geometry textbooks and all the rest of this,
Speaker 1: they could unite these people who had very little in
Speaker 1: common and wanted.
Speaker 3: To go to war with each other.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And there were feuds over how they could use these
Speaker 3: symbols to sort of propagandize people with the structure itself.
Speaker 3: So if you go back to Giordano Bruno, he has
Speaker 3: these methods of mimetics where he's using these these geometric and.
Speaker 1: Sigils. It's a wheeldrow magic that that That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask if it's it's it. It seems to
Speaker 1: me like it's hyper sigils, and like they're doing this
Speaker 1: stuff on a large scale, uh, in these areas to
Speaker 1: and invoke some kind of energy or magical uh, you know,
Speaker 1: some something.
Speaker 3: So it's they've they've called it before. Oh there we go,
Speaker 3: that's the uh.
Speaker 1: There, we stopped talking about it. Yeah, And George George
Speaker 1: is right there in the middle with his as above
Speaker 1: so below hand hand signals.
Speaker 3: Hand to Sabazios before the hand of benediction. So he's
Speaker 3: holding up the hand of Sabazios.
Speaker 1: Can you name all the gods headless? Who are all
Speaker 1: these uh i?
Speaker 3: On the left, the twelve Olympians are outside of that ring, right,
Speaker 3: so they're heavily implying that there is some sort of
Speaker 3: ancient pagan element here that is founding this country. That is,
Speaker 3: that is a spirit that is moving through this country.
Speaker 1: There nick looks like an I in the middle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: big time, definitely.
Speaker 3: If you could zoom in a little farther, I could
Speaker 3: probably pick out some of the elements from them. But
Speaker 3: basically we've gotten up tune over on the west right,
Speaker 3: so he's he's holding up that trident and let's see,
Speaker 3: he's got to be Hephaestus and Oh Columbia right to
Speaker 3: the south right below George Washington. She's holding the shield
Speaker 3: and the.
Speaker 1: Sword literally right under his Pallas.
Speaker 3: Right under him exactly, and this is at the heart
Speaker 3: of the womb of the temple. Right, So this is
Speaker 3: the under the dome right where the pregnancy of this,
Speaker 3: you know, Agrigor of Washington or agrigor of a state
Speaker 3: over all the United States is being birthed, right. It's
Speaker 3: it's powerful symbolism, dude.
Speaker 1: This is how the original churches and all these like
Speaker 1: old places of worship were built out, like in the
Speaker 1: format of our body, you know, right. Look at all
Speaker 1: the pentacles surrounding him too. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Heavily encoded magic, dude, heavily encoded magic. And nobody's paying
Speaker 3: attention to this stuff on a magical level anymore.
Speaker 1: Is that aries down there to the southwest?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: They could be aries, or it could be Athena, maybe Minerva,
Speaker 3: because again Minerva.
Speaker 2: Is like this.
Speaker 1: Connecting down to it.
Speaker 2: I can't really see.
Speaker 1: You don't see the rainbow right there.
Speaker 3: It looks like the twin Towers, to be honest.
Speaker 1: That's something. I don't know who that is to the
Speaker 1: north or the two to the east either, But uh,
Speaker 1: who are the ones sitting around George Washington.
Speaker 3: They look like angels, right, lots of sort of angelic symbolism.
Speaker 3: But they could also be like, you know, Saints of
Speaker 3: the Revolution or one of these.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I don't know. I just thought that
Speaker 1: was interesting since since since we are talking about Artemis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before they called Washington, d C. Before it became
Speaker 3: the capital. Right when the capitol was still up in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: this area in Maryland was called Rome Maryland because there
Speaker 3: are seven hills that are adjacent to Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: They are in the District of Diana, right, they are
Speaker 3: in the District of Columbia. So all of this stuff
Speaker 3: is heavily spiritualized from the European ancestry. And if you
Speaker 3: look that guy right below, George Washington is carrying a
Speaker 3: Phrygian cap on a pole.
Speaker 1: I know, I was just about to say, dude, that
Speaker 1: seems like the same hat that Hermi's wears too.
Speaker 3: That's the one that they refuse to put on the
Speaker 3: Statue of Freedom because you know what's not Jefferson Jefferson Davis. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: Hermes had one too, but Jefferson Davis insisted you do
Speaker 3: not put that on the Statue of Freedom because that
Speaker 3: is the sign of a freed slave.
Speaker 1: Well you were talking about the chicken. Well, you know
Speaker 1: how she was kind of depicted in the Native Guard.
Speaker 1: Look right to the right of this image, right here
Speaker 1: down here, and you have you know, this female with
Speaker 1: this headdress on that is very similar to the one
Speaker 1: with the phoenix on her head.
Speaker 3: You know, I think there is zero percent chance that
Speaker 3: the founding fathers did not know that there was European
Speaker 3: contact before Christopher Columbus and they were making them parts
Speaker 3: of their own tribe. They knew that the Creek were
Speaker 3: speaking a derivation of Greek. You know, they knew that
Speaker 3: there was ancient contact there, but they kind of kept
Speaker 3: it secret except in works of art like this, where
Speaker 3: you could see that even though they're at war with
Speaker 3: these native tribes, they still consider them part of their
Speaker 3: own family.
Speaker 1: I need to get a better thing for for my
Speaker 1: photos to pull up stuff. Uh for some reason, Max,
Speaker 1: they have very shitty uh like tools to use, right.
Speaker 3: Artemis was also the goddess of childbirth.
Speaker 1: Really okay, Yeah, I wanted to ask you if she
Speaker 1: represented anything else besides.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she also had you know, a hea, a
Speaker 3: heavy association with the moon. But as we can see that,
Speaker 3: you know that lunar Sephira is right there at the
Speaker 3: Yoni and Phallus of the Washington Monument. So I mean,
Speaker 3: they couldn't be any clearer with that. And also the sun,
Speaker 3: which would be Tiffareth is right above that moon circle. Right,
Speaker 3: So they're making the Greek Kabbala, I think. I think
Speaker 3: that's that's what they were going for.
Speaker 1: They're trying to mix uh, a little bit of both
Speaker 1: whenever they're trying to take these entities from this one
Speaker 1: and with the themes and the you know, the symbolism
Speaker 1: from this other and mesh them together to create their
Speaker 1: own gods or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the Greek Kabbala is actually older than
Speaker 3: the Hebrew Kabbala. But that's very constravers.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a very interesting subject. I'd like to
Speaker 1: talk to you about that sometimes. Right, I just think
Speaker 1: because I didn't know there was a.
Speaker 3: Right, right. So since the theogeny fits perfectly into the Kabbalah, right,
Speaker 3: like all these gods have their own spheres, have their
Speaker 3: own pathways, and we know the approximate date of the
Speaker 3: writing of the you know, septuagen you have to understand
Speaker 3: that they were influenced by that Greek source. So when
Speaker 3: they're saying that they have the one true Kabbala, that's
Speaker 3: through the Bible, which is filtered through the original version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh. Interesting.
Speaker 3: But this is like at the core of perennialism, right,
Speaker 3: the idea that all of these things can be mapped
Speaker 3: out geometrically in a very similar way. Yo, scottus of
Speaker 3: Don what's what's that about?
Speaker 1: I don't know Rex talking about Rex?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 1: I guess may have been talking about one of the
Speaker 1: one of the figures on the side of George Washington.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of them was Eos. There was one that
Speaker 1: was around a whole bunch of clouds. It looked kind
Speaker 1: of like dawn.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's there you go, and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see allegory Yeah, well yeah, no, I think allegory
Speaker 1: there's you know that's hidden in there as well. That's
Speaker 1: the beauty of it, in my opinion, and a lot
Speaker 1: of this is just the different things that you find
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 3: That painting was perfectly oriented northwest, east, east, and south,
Speaker 3: and so where Eos would be in that painting is
Speaker 3: where the sun.
Speaker 1: Would be rising, which is in the east, right.
Speaker 3: Right there in the east. So they've oriented that painting
Speaker 3: perfectly to the world around it, which.
Speaker 1: Is as yeah, yeah, if you want my opinion, that's art.
Speaker 1: That's like it's like a pure form of art. Dude,
Speaker 1: is like something that represents the world around it, you know,
Speaker 1: but you don't realize it until you you look at
Speaker 1: it from this more esoteric angle. Is just fascinating. I
Speaker 1: go off on another tangent, you know, if you don't
Speaker 1: stop me.
Speaker 3: So summarily, you know, Artimis is the protector of girls, right,
Speaker 3: young girls are under her protection. Apollo protects young boys, right.
Speaker 3: So together they bring swift death and justice upon anybody
Speaker 3: who hurts the people that they protect.
Speaker 1: Dude, who couldn't agree with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But again that's why they're called gods and goddesses of
Speaker 3: death because in the Greek tradition they would kill anybody
Speaker 3: would fuck around with children.
Speaker 1: They're talking about their their enemies, right, well when they
Speaker 1: talk about death.
Speaker 3: Society, right, So they bring disease and they bring this
Speaker 3: fortune upon you know, people who cross them. And so
Speaker 3: if you're not good with Artemis and Apollo, they're probably
Speaker 3: gonna fuck with you heart, you know. And so anytime
Speaker 3: you see references to Apollo as being this god of
Speaker 3: death in the Bible, that's what they're referring to is
Speaker 3: you know, you don't fuck with him like Apollo is
Speaker 3: the one who stuck the arrow in Achilles, like he's
Speaker 3: he's the one who ended that hero. So he did
Speaker 3: that because he dishonored his temple, and.
Speaker 1: So he chopped the head off of them, right yeah, no, no, well.
Speaker 3: That came later. But after he stabbed the arrow into
Speaker 3: his heel.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying Achilles chopped the head off of Apollo
Speaker 1: the statue on his temple. Yeah yeah. I actually watched
Speaker 1: Troy recently with my son. It's a great movie. That's
Speaker 1: one of the last like good action movies. Man, I
Speaker 1: mean it really was good. I remember I had it
Speaker 1: on VHS. Achilles was a jerk. Yeah, he was pretty arrogant,
Speaker 1: that's you know, he's probably why he got it through
Speaker 1: the heel, right.
Speaker 3: Hubris right, niversally gets the gods they will strike you down.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, didn't he fall in love with a
Speaker 1: priestess of Apollo?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, So I mean there you go, you
Speaker 1: just you know, and Apollo ends up killing him. So
Speaker 1: it's like this this story. Wow, I love this headless
Speaker 1: that's awesome.
Speaker 3: But they talk about Apollium rising from the pit in
Speaker 3: the Book of Revelations.
Speaker 1: So they're referring to Apollo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Apollium is how you spell his name. So he's
Speaker 3: the chief demon among all the rest of them. He's
Speaker 3: the worst guy in history. He is once he comes
Speaker 3: out of the pit. That's what all hell breaks loose
Speaker 3: on earth. In Revelations is he is the bringer of
Speaker 3: pain and misfortunate and injustice to everybody, right in the
Speaker 3: Book of Revelations. But you don't really have the context
Speaker 3: about that because the founding mythology of pat Most included
Speaker 3: Apollo falling in as well. Right, So he's fallen in
Speaker 3: the pit and then he has to be brought back
Speaker 3: out of it by Artemis or the Horror of Babylon.
Speaker 3: It's strange because it seems like they're working together in
Speaker 3: the Book of Revelations, and that's also some of the
Speaker 3: founding mythology of pat Most where John was writing the
Speaker 3: Book of Revelations.
Speaker 1: Wow, you gotta have the context, ya, dude. Definitely. People
Speaker 1: people miss or forget context these days and they just
Speaker 1: go That's the problem with this fast content in my opinion,
Speaker 1: that you know, people base what they think off of
Speaker 1: a thirty second video, right, you know, no one's going
Speaker 1: to go and read the book, right, No, one's going
Speaker 1: to go and try to get their own opinion or
Speaker 1: their own view on these things in which I think
Speaker 1: everyone should do well.
Speaker 3: It certainly, it certainly adds a little bit of you know,
Speaker 3: impetus for the people who are controlling things to try
Speaker 3: and get this information on top of everything else, because
Speaker 3: if you don't know how it's actually working from the
Speaker 3: historical and documented sources, then you can you know, use
Speaker 3: anything from the Bible to discredit anything that actually has sources,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it.
Speaker 3: Keeps see in a big pen and it works, you know,
Speaker 3: because if you can't think outside of that paradigm, you're
Speaker 3: you're doomed to repeat that paradigm. So it's it works
Speaker 3: out on them that angle. But perennialism, when you.
Speaker 1: Go back to the sources in the Bible, is about
Speaker 1: analyzing these symbols and seeing where they cross over and
Speaker 1: other cultures. As this perennial system, it's it's all one religion,
Speaker 1: you know. That's what the Theosophists we're trying to do,
Speaker 1: is they were trying to syncretize everything into one single thing.
Speaker 1: And that's why they call it the world religion or
Speaker 1: whatever that these Theosophists were pushing that came through their analysis.
Speaker 1: We were all of these Yeah, well, we were just
Speaker 1: talking about on the Esoteric book review. We had started
Speaker 1: The Secret Doctrine and then we switched over to another book.
Speaker 1: But we were talking about watching how they would use
Speaker 1: the swastika and the you know, the hex gram of
Speaker 1: Solomon in unison together, right and that so that came
Speaker 1: from Theosophy. Okay, makes more sense.
Speaker 3: Right, And you know, these efforts have produced things like baseball,
Speaker 3: for instance, So all of the Theosophy stuff went directly
Speaker 3: into the making of baseball, this great American game, uniquely American,
Speaker 3: but it's in the shape of this you know, the
Speaker 3: big G for the diamond shape again. Yeah, we're back
Speaker 3: to geoglyphs again. They're using this as their form of magic.
Speaker 3: Now to me, right, like the era where baseball is
Speaker 3: at its height almost is the innocent portion of America
Speaker 3: Like this was, you know, this was like the up
Speaker 3: and coming of this culture and civilization and instead of
Speaker 3: you know, always fighting with each other in these civil wars,
Speaker 3: they got together on the sports field and they got
Speaker 3: along together, and you could see how that magic could
Speaker 3: possibly work to bring a nation together because we think
Speaker 3: of that as sort of like the American way, you know.
Speaker 3: And that was definitely because who started supposedly started baseball
Speaker 3: was the this Northern general, right, he was a general
Speaker 3: in the Northern Army, and he wanted to bring America
Speaker 3: back together.
Speaker 1: So they pretty based. Dude, get it, bas.
Speaker 3: You got it? Just Double Day, that's his name. I
Speaker 3: was trying to is trying to unite the nation after
Speaker 3: the Civil War, and he comes up with this magical game.
Speaker 3: He does it. So did he lie about the origins
Speaker 3: of it? Hell yeah, he did. The whole story is bullshit,
Speaker 3: but it worked. It was it was positive propaganda. I
Speaker 3: think that was trying to you know, very fute. And
Speaker 3: this is would be an example of magic that works,
Speaker 3: you see. And if you don't have the magic that works,
Speaker 3: what can you do to change things? Not a lot.
Speaker 3: So if you demonize this stuff and you're not able
Speaker 3: to use it as your own form of propaganda, you're fucked.
Speaker 3: You don't really have that agency in the same way
Speaker 3: that the people who make these successful spells pull it off.
Speaker 1: Intention is everything too, you know, same with prayer guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so if you have.
Speaker 3: And you know how to abstract them and to create
Speaker 3: spells out of them through art and all the rest
Speaker 3: of this stuff. You make an excellent propagandasts. When you
Speaker 3: can integrate all of these religious symbols throughout all of
Speaker 3: these years into geometric forms and what you're you're creating
Speaker 3: and putting out there to the world, you can actually
Speaker 3: make something that gets people's attention.
Speaker 2: What do you think, nick.
Speaker 3: Liminal Messenger?
Speaker 2: I agree, propagandas.
Speaker 3: It's not just propaganda. It's also beauty, it's also spirituality.
Speaker 3: It's all of these things that come into this form
Speaker 3: to try and create something, which, hey, I think that's
Speaker 3: what magic is us.
Speaker 1: Hey, so Subliminal had a question having to do with
Speaker 1: the Artemis shuttle or whatever it was being in between
Speaker 1: O'Brien and Apollo or something. If there was anything with that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said he would have. He said
Speaker 1: he was going to show up and ask in the chat,
Speaker 1: I would have had the actual question. He had mentioned
Speaker 1: something about it. Maybe it's something you can look into.
Speaker 3: Well. The first rockets were called the Saturn five rockets, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: These were massive. They were like what six story buildings,
Speaker 3: These things are huge. These are what they were usual
Speaker 3: to get up to you know, outer space. And then
Speaker 3: you had the Gemini rockets, right, and then the Gemini
Speaker 3: rockets were smaller, they were sleeker, they were actually you know,
Speaker 3: more efficient, and then you know it moved on down
Speaker 3: the line into the Shuttle rockets. So you know there
Speaker 3: is a significance to these things. The Saturn five was
Speaker 3: the furthest limit that they had gotten to that far,
Speaker 3: so it it represented that Saturn energy. And then you've
Speaker 3: got that Gemini which is sort of like a mirror
Speaker 3: ring of of sorts. Right, So it's of the story, right,
Speaker 3: and you know you've got the divine twins always as
Speaker 3: this ever present force in nature is the polarity.
Speaker 1: Isn't Apollo? There's one there's one god or one deity
Speaker 1: that that you see in both the Roman and Greek pantheon.
Speaker 1: Is that Apollo? Or is that uh?
Speaker 3: Apollo was wor ship in Magna Gressia in fact, okay,
Speaker 3: well Magna Greci is the bottom tip of Italy, right,
Speaker 3: so that was all Greece.
Speaker 2: Do you just see how much Jesus looked like Apolo
Speaker 2: at one point?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, dude, in the look in the Vaticans.
Speaker 2: And how close they went to areas that worship in
Speaker 2: the in.
Speaker 1: The Aquarian Gospel of the Christ. I know, it's like
Speaker 1: a channeled book or whatever. People want to say what
Speaker 1: they want to Christ is hanging out with this Greek
Speaker 1: mystic named Apolo. Mm hmm. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1: Uh that we're doing that on esthetary book review at
Speaker 1: some point, guys, it's gonna be a bigger uh. I
Speaker 1: gotta come open minded for that one. And uh No,
Speaker 1: dissenting opinions and whatnot were going.
Speaker 3: In probably before the third century though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I mean, you'd have to look into it's
Speaker 1: very interesting stuff. It could be fake and gay, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's definitely it's interesting enough for a
Speaker 1: read in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Uh So, in the in the basement of the Vatican,
Speaker 3: they have images of Christ as Helios. Let me see
Speaker 3: if I can pull this up for you, guys, Ah,
Speaker 3: which is really interesting. Helios is this sun goddess or
Speaker 3: sun god that has their rays coming out of its
Speaker 3: head kind of like the you know, Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 2: Stop screen and try again, sub stacks.
Speaker 3: Vatican Helios. There we go. So this is Christ pulling
Speaker 3: a chariot with these sun rays coming out of his
Speaker 3: head surrounded by all of these I think they're oak leaves,
Speaker 3: could be, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, probably yeah.
Speaker 3: So this was in the basement of the Vatican. This
Speaker 3: is the kind of Christ that they were worshiping back then,
Speaker 3: and it's far more roman.
Speaker 1: Looks more like man is.
Speaker 3: Right, right, So this is early Christianity is far more romanized.
Speaker 2: You're over by the visit areas. That motherfucker looked like
Speaker 2: he had hips on them and man, yes, sir, the
Speaker 2: di and Jesus, especially depending on where you are, because
Speaker 2: you got to look like their God. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1: Right right in the image of their right. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: they make you.
Speaker 2: Know, uh, Mary wasn't huge until isis was a problem.
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother abbit hole, dude, that's a whole
Speaker 1: other episode.
Speaker 3: M hm. Also, why they would demonize Apollo so much
Speaker 3: in the Book of Revelations, because you've got to now
Speaker 3: eliminate that influence from painting Christianity.
Speaker 1: No one said that I said in this book he
Speaker 1: was hanging out with another mystic. That mystic was named Apollo.
Speaker 1: No one said, Jesus is Apollo.
Speaker 3: Right, So this Apollo Helio's imagery kind of indicates that
Speaker 3: they wanted Catholicism to mean what it means in Latin,
Speaker 3: which is universal. They have to be the universal religion
Speaker 3: and to get as far out there as possible with
Speaker 3: how you relate to these other cultures. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you guys have ever heard of the hunab Ku.
Speaker 3: This is great. So the Nabku is this imagery from
Speaker 3: the Mayas.
Speaker 1: I gotta yeah, that picture right there headless is very
Speaker 1: interesting that they had that underneath the Vatican because I've
Speaker 1: been I've been looking into what you would call like
Speaker 1: the men of the oak trees or the oak grove
Speaker 1: or what. That's why when you brought up the King
Speaker 1: of the Grove, I was like, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is very reminiscent of these Druidic you know, initiates. That
Speaker 1: is very very similar to early Christianity iconography and symbolism.
Speaker 3: So uh you know, yes, sir, so this is the
Speaker 3: hunab Ku symbol. This is the the Mayan yinyang sign, right,
Speaker 3: and so this Mayan yinyang was also Another thing was
Speaker 3: standard ukitect Mayan ornithography. It's a colonial period u coutect
Speaker 3: reducto term meaning the one God. It is used in
Speaker 3: colonial and more particularly doctrinal texts to refer to the
Speaker 3: Christian God. So since the found frequently in Chilam Balaam
Speaker 3: of Chuyamel, a syncretistic document heavily influenced by Christianity, refers
Speaker 3: specifically to the God as the translation into the Mayan
Speaker 3: Christian concept of one God to use and then culturally
Speaker 3: and culturate previous polytheist Maya to the new religion. So
Speaker 3: they grabbed this symbol and they said, this is the
Speaker 3: Christian God. You guys already worship it.
Speaker 1: Bring bring that symbol back up. Yeah, the hunab Ku.
Speaker 3: We'll do.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: Go, let's see there's a human.
Speaker 1: Interesting people are going to say that that symbol on
Speaker 1: the inside is like the FBI code for pedophilia or something.
Speaker 3: Maybe. All I know is this this goes way back
Speaker 3: in Mayan history. And they had some weird practices.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes they they they did. You know, we'll
Speaker 1: throwing heads down the pyramid steps and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Well that's more the as tags.
Speaker 1: But they okay, okay, okay, I'm glad that you're able
Speaker 1: to tell me that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's another thing I do want to mention
Speaker 2: with that though, is that even from things that I've
Speaker 2: noticed you're just looking at that. There's certain ways that
Speaker 2: people visioned what's going on out there. It was a
Speaker 2: point where they did think the sun in the moon
Speaker 2: might have actually kind of spiraled around the planet. Well,
Speaker 2: like we were there was like spiraling going on, it
Speaker 2: actually wasn't. It's hard to explain like that image could
Speaker 2: actually be showing something else.
Speaker 1: Those colors are that's all alchemy colors as well, right,
Speaker 1: that that we talked about, that we've talked about before.
Speaker 1: Let's see, that's interesting how people are getting a tattooed
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really popular symbol because obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's very much like that you know, Yin yang
Speaker 3: like yeah, opposite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does look.
Speaker 1: That combination of Yeah, it's interesting manh Yeah, I probably
Speaker 1: know the least about South American culture from their ancient past.
Speaker 3: It's very good.
Speaker 1: A little bit about the serpent mounds and like quetz
Speaker 1: a Quadal, the plume surpent, his relation to Thoth, slash
Speaker 1: ningo Zita to Hoodie, uh who you know, they kind
Speaker 1: of venerated then and he you know, there's the ancient
Speaker 1: alien theory of him bringing the Olemechs with him to
Speaker 1: restart civilization. And you know that this is a son
Speaker 1: of inky Ah, who you could say, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is the like archetype of Prometheus? Maybe I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what's this?
Speaker 3: What do you think it is?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That looks like an ole mac head.
Speaker 3: No, none of the the two bars and three dots,
Speaker 3: what is that?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 3: That's Mayan for thirteen. That's Mayan for thirteen. So the
Speaker 3: three dots are the ones and then these two are fives.
Speaker 3: So that's how they did their numbering system.
Speaker 1: That's fucking weird kind of I mean, if you were
Speaker 1: if that, if you were to grow up knowing this,
Speaker 1: this numbering system, I'm sure it would be very easy.
Speaker 1: But just looking at it.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 1: Whose flag is that?
Speaker 3: That's Washington, DC's flag.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, thirteen thirteen stars, thirteen bars, thirteen thirteen thirteen,
Speaker 3: all the thirteen over the fucking place.
Speaker 1: But they took that that symbol from from from the Mayans.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's actually George olderport a coat of arms.
Speaker 1: So he took that.
Speaker 3: How could his great great grandfather take that great great
Speaker 3: great great great great great grandfather in England.
Speaker 1: I have no idea they.
Speaker 3: Had contact with America's this this is not uncommon. They
Speaker 3: had a lot of contact with America. They had European
Speaker 3: voyages going back and forth. This is they knew about
Speaker 3: these people. That's why they have them up on the
Speaker 3: dome where he's being turned into a god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh look at that. Okay, yeah, boy, that's wild man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this ship.
Speaker 3: What dude's going on?
Speaker 1: So, where's the origin of that symbol? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What's the original meaning of the three dots and the
Speaker 1: two bars as it come from.
Speaker 3: We'll see, We'll see the heraldry. We can look up
Speaker 3: the heraldry.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because you showed it to me in
Speaker 1: you know, the South American cultures. You know, was it
Speaker 1: worldwide or was it have have you seen it throughout
Speaker 1: different civilizations, just like looking different obviously not using stars,
Speaker 1: but maybe something else like like what we saw dots
Speaker 1: or even a different Yeah, no, they wouldn't star.
Speaker 3: The original was more like seed shaped, right, so it
Speaker 3: was kind of like so they would use this sort
Speaker 3: of seed shaped thing and not really a perfect circle.
Speaker 3: That's just sort of how they they translated it right.
Speaker 3: So the first coat of arms of a member of
Speaker 3: the Washington family is the first documented in the fourteenth century,
Speaker 3: born by one of the male Washington family members of
Speaker 3: Old Washington Hall and County Durham, England. The design three
Speaker 3: red stars over two horizontal horizontal bars on a white
Speaker 3: field has been used since nineteen thirty eight as the
Speaker 3: basis for the coat of arms and flag for the
Speaker 3: District of Columbia. Was also found on the purple heart,
Speaker 3: a US medal for wounded soldiers. That's very symbolic. These
Speaker 3: elements have been said to have been inspired by the
Speaker 3: stars and stripes design of the flag of the United States. However,
Speaker 3: despite some visual similarity, there is little evidence to no
Speaker 3: evidence whatsoever to support the claimed connection. The Digital Encyclopedia
Speaker 3: of George Washington, published in the Fred W. Smith National
Speaker 3: Library for the Study of George Washington Mount Vernon, calls
Speaker 3: it an enduring myth backed by no discernible evidence. Instead,
Speaker 3: the story seems to have originated in eighteen six seventy
Speaker 3: six playwright a Washington drama in five acts, Let Me
Speaker 3: See Sir William de Hertburn was also granted the Lordship
Speaker 3: of Wesington. Where's the description of it, he's a sir. Oh, Well,
Speaker 3: here's the thing about Washington is he signed the Declaration
Speaker 3: of Independence and like fourteen of his like sixteen ancestors
Speaker 3: were all signers of the Uh what's this? What's that
Speaker 3: called the Magna carta. Ah, So you don't say, right,
Speaker 3: So these guys are declaring independence over here in England,
Speaker 3: and then all of those guys come over here and
Speaker 3: they're doing the same thing over here.
Speaker 1: That's and somehow these guys are relating tone, you know,
Speaker 1: to these guys.
Speaker 3: And uh, bloodline families, right, but we're not.
Speaker 1: It's been like this last night. I was saying how
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones is a great representation of how the
Speaker 1: elites handle, like the behind the scenes, you know, like
Speaker 1: who who runs what? You know, who marries into which
Speaker 1: bloodline it's from like these houses, right, uh, and then
Speaker 1: the main house being like that of the dragon, you know,
Speaker 1: or like of this symbolic serpent stuff, which which obviously
Speaker 1: spans much farther into other cultures. But I thought it
Speaker 1: was a pretty good example.
Speaker 3: It gets really national trade, really fucking question.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure I got to rewatch that movie.
Speaker 1: I need to watch that with my son. That'd be
Speaker 1: a good one that blow his mind. May confusion, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: It's good. It opens the mind, like we think of
Speaker 3: our history is mundane. It's very magical. But you got
Speaker 3: to know this stuff so that you could see the magic.
Speaker 3: There's a lot.
Speaker 1: Absolutely you can't discount it, you know. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's that was what I was saying earlier with the
Speaker 1: whole you know, the certain narratives that were fed Who's
Speaker 1: feeding us these narratives? And how long have they been
Speaker 1: feeding them to us? And you know, you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to discern between what's real and what's not. It's
Speaker 1: very hard. And I was talking about this uh on
Speaker 1: on a on a recent episode. I can't remember with who,
Speaker 1: but about Ai now and I hate this uh sona
Speaker 1: AI ship. I hate it. I can't stand it. It's
Speaker 1: very low frequent, oh gay, and I don't like it.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that I have it and
Speaker 2: you have not seen me make one video with that shit.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like pt and I have not
Speaker 2: made one one of those new sore videos like.
Speaker 1: People have been telling me to make thumbnails with AI,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, I would rather make my own
Speaker 1: thumbnail with this app and just it looks how it looks.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's it's kind of a di
Speaker 1: I've always been real punk rock about everything. I don't know, authentic,
Speaker 1: thank you headless. It is authentic. And that's what I
Speaker 1: just said about the di y. You know, do it yourself, guys.
Speaker 1: You don't have to rely on any bigger entity to
Speaker 1: give you.
Speaker 2: I'll be drawing stick so unfortunately, hey, I.
Speaker 1: Can't draw worth the ship, so I just use hell is.
Speaker 1: You're a great artist, I heard.
Speaker 3: Guys. That's the point, like, now is the time to
Speaker 3: make really bad art because really bad art is authentic
Speaker 3: and people know it's not AI. That was the time
Speaker 3: we must bring back bad art again.
Speaker 2: Paid drawings that I'm just start doing ship like that
Speaker 2: and taking it like a picture of it thrown up
Speaker 2: as the thumb nail we were talking about, like right on,
Speaker 2: like fucking composition paper like the title of the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how how I'm always like, hey, bro, you got
Speaker 1: a thumbnail? Yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna do that. Next time, I'm gonna send you a
Speaker 2: picture of like my thumbnail.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's always Uh, they're fun to make.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I get you.
Speaker 1: But hey, so who're gonna be talking about next week? Headless?
Speaker 1: I guess Apollo next week?
Speaker 3: It'll be right, the rustic gods, he's not. No, it's.
Speaker 1: Every day a right. So Artemis is but Apollo isn't. Okay?
Speaker 3: Interesting interesting, right because she's out there on the front
Speaker 3: tears hunting deer and Apollo is more like war. And
Speaker 3: he's also the god of Delphi, right, so he's the
Speaker 3: god of prophecy as well. He's always depicted as being
Speaker 3: surrounded by the Muses. The Nine Muses are his in
Speaker 3: the in the depictions, so all of the inspiration that
Speaker 3: comes through is related to Apollo as well. And you
Speaker 3: know that's something I was listening to a podcast about
Speaker 3: the muses from Ky Dickens and she was talking about
Speaker 3: how these muses are more real than people think. Right,
Speaker 3: So this is the telepathy tapes.
Speaker 2: Lady.
Speaker 3: She was thinking, what if inspiration is a type of telepathy,
Speaker 3: and actually these muses are coming through these ideas you
Speaker 3: have in your head, so clearly like a non local
Speaker 3: form of consciousness. So what if that's what they were doing?
Speaker 3: Back then that's what these muses represented, was connection with
Speaker 3: non local consciousness for the purpose of having epiphanies and
Speaker 3: seeing the world differently. I think that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense with music and sounds in general,
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 1: Where bingo uses. Of course, that word probably comes from that.
Speaker 3: It comes from the music.
Speaker 1: Thought about that, you know, always like I said, we
Speaker 1: learned something new every day, which also.
Speaker 3: Goes back into the Satan character that's now marching around
Speaker 3: with all of his body parts being instruments, right, goes
Speaker 3: back to pollow. He's the goddess about god of the
Speaker 3: harp and what is it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like half tones or whatever
Speaker 2: it is, but it's even though certain notes that are
Speaker 2: always like associated with like evil safty, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. There's even certain but.
Speaker 1: That's just the adversary to the Jewish God, right to like.
Speaker 3: Apollo is the adversary to the Jewish God.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well this is asking just just just
Speaker 1: for clarification.
Speaker 3: You know, ok right, because it's like they want to
Speaker 3: get rid of that stuff. You can't have inspiration, you
Speaker 3: can't have these connections.
Speaker 1: You've got to come vibration disease and wolves.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yeah, he also infected the Athenians when they
Speaker 3: were trying to invade Troy. He gave them an illness
Speaker 3: that they were all dying from right before he killed
Speaker 3: h you know, Achilles.
Speaker 1: So so Troy, Troy had the favor of Apollo then, okay.
Speaker 3: Troy, Apollo and Artemis were the patrons of Troue.
Speaker 1: So the Athenians have like who were they sporting Athena? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, hey, all right, all right, all right, I
Speaker 1: got it. I got it. Thank you hadless.
Speaker 3: And Zeus wanted to break it up. He wanted to
Speaker 3: stop all this stuff and he couldn't figure out how.
Speaker 1: I love this, dude.
Speaker 3: It's such a great book because it's encoded into Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. With the with the symbols themselves. All of
Speaker 3: these things come through the culture. Now we don't we
Speaker 3: don't read these books in terms of like the actual
Speaker 3: religious practices of the Founding Fathers. But I think it's
Speaker 3: probably a lot closer to the reality is that they
Speaker 3: were Hellenists. That's why they knew this stuff inside and out.
Speaker 3: That's why they put it up everywhere. They understood it well, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the reason for that George Washington thing being in
Speaker 1: the basement. And I'll probably do an episode on this
Speaker 1: soon since we're getting into like, uh, the uh what
Speaker 1: is it the all the grail Kings and you know,
Speaker 1: the the roundtable and all that stuff. Is that uh
Speaker 1: these guys in these mystery schools that were at the top,
Speaker 1: like King King Arthur was known in some and some
Speaker 1: of these mystery calls as this like resurrected God King, right,
Speaker 1: and so he would go, uh, him dying was symbolic
Speaker 1: of him going into the un world and like transgressing
Speaker 1: through all these mysteries into symbolism and decoding it for
Speaker 1: his fellow initiates back in the physical on the physical plane,
Speaker 1: and so when they would descend to the underworld, they
Speaker 1: would know how to uh, you know, not be afraid
Speaker 1: and kind of have this discernment of you know, these
Speaker 1: entities and symbolism. They would know how to read the symbols. Right. Therefore,
Speaker 1: not fearing anything, understanding everything, you're able to pass through
Speaker 1: the spiritual world unharmed. That's a very interesting, uh take,
Speaker 1: I think, but appreciate it. Man. Very good conversation, Jim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys coming to hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: This whole idea for this series was Headless's idea, so
Speaker 1: shouts out the Headless Giant. I guess he he had
Speaker 1: to go for a second. But Nick, we got anything
Speaker 1: else this weekend on the Cult Reject Brother.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow we will be going. Unfortunately I
Speaker 2: have we.
Speaker 1: Have one live show and then one studio show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Occultist. I didn't want to go live.
Speaker 2: She's a little nervous, so that's not gonna happen. But
Speaker 2: we do have Deborah from Paradigm. Fuck I forgot it,
Speaker 2: but she's been on Headless's show. We had her on
Speaker 2: once for like her weird experiences, but she's actually been
Speaker 2: on like a lot of other like kind of a
Speaker 2: cult or which he shows. She does like she's got
Speaker 2: a whole thing going on. Very interesting woman, very nice,
Speaker 2: and yeah, she'll be on. She's kind of like an
Speaker 2: EmPATH and you know she does. She's had like weird experiences,
Speaker 2: astral shit like that. We got that going on, and
Speaker 2: then the fourteenth we will be covering the Shepard in
Speaker 2: the Rainbow Wich should be the whole Cruey Occult rejects.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that movie yeah today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they sent it in like I said, I sent
Speaker 2: it in the chat too for everybody that.
Speaker 1: Guys I was I was gonna say. I think I'm
Speaker 1: doing something on Discord tonight. Later tonight, after I hang
Speaker 1: out with the family today, we'll do the movie night
Speaker 1: on Discord. We'll watch Eraserhead or we can watch and
Speaker 1: I'll send you guys a link if y'all want to
Speaker 1: come hang out and yeah, and it's it's it's in
Speaker 1: my Discord. So it gets kind of crazy about it.
Speaker 1: I think you'll might.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: We may watch Eraserhead, or we can watch Surfing in
Speaker 1: the Rainbow. So y'all just uh, if you're in the
Speaker 1: Great Pilled Group chat, let me know.
Speaker 2: And yeah, oh, one thing I do want to plug
Speaker 2: real quick. That will That will be I guess we'll
Speaker 2: be all working on eventually, hopefully sooner than later next week,
Speaker 2: god willing. I should be. As long as everything goes
Speaker 2: all right, I will be going to Coral Castle next week,
Speaker 2: so I have to be getting tons of footage and
Speaker 2: I will park my car blocks away and send my
Speaker 2: drone over if.
Speaker 1: I have to what is that again? I've heard you
Speaker 1: heard you mentioned the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had Library of the Untold Come on, it's just,
Speaker 2: uh my opinion that guy was in ocultist and he
Speaker 2: was creating. He made some ship that was just unusual.
Speaker 2: You know. I think there's a lot of occult symbolism,
Speaker 2: you know, probably like free energy shit with stuff going
Speaker 2: on and yeah, Carl Castle, yeah, look it up. It's
Speaker 2: it looks like I mean, I don't even know how
Speaker 2: to explain it.
Speaker 1: He may have opened something there.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I think he understood I mean where it was.
Speaker 2: I think he originally moved it to where somewhere. I
Speaker 2: think the lay line is like a lot, it's pretty
Speaker 2: much on one. Yeah, the guy, I don't know. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of weird stories even be behind the dude.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I will agree with the Library of
Speaker 2: Untold guy. I do think he kind of had a
Speaker 2: smear campaign on him because of the weird shit he
Speaker 2: was doing over there. I do think it starts to
Speaker 2: show like just weird shit, Like he had a door
Speaker 2: that move that was like tons and tons it would
Speaker 2: spin and like engineers went there and like fucking pulled
Speaker 2: it apart to see how it works, and they they
Speaker 2: when they want to go put it back in, they
Speaker 2: can't get it to work again, so they don't look it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't understand how this guy's shit works. This guy
Speaker 2: had fucking you know that door that's that turns. I
Speaker 2: had a drill hold straight through the fucking thing. Like,
Speaker 2: how do you even do this? So yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be going there. I'm gonna be hopefully taking as many
Speaker 2: pictures in video as I can without getting yelled at,
Speaker 2: and it will be as long as they don't have
Speaker 2: something blocking it, I will be getting drum footage. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So and then I would like to cover it on
Speaker 2: the show, like show the photos and stuff and just
Speaker 2: the history about the.
Speaker 3: Blood absolutely so. Ed Leid Scaln then also has a
Speaker 3: bunch of books out there about different designs that you
Speaker 3: can actually recreate at home, So look up ed lead
Speaker 3: Scaln then books. Read through them. They're really confusing at first,
Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta read it several times to understand it,
Speaker 3: but once you start to get at he's he's trying
Speaker 3: to unlock some secrets of the universe. So that look
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, so as long as I make it. Hopefully
Speaker 2: maybe a couple of weeks after we do Silent a
Speaker 2: Serpent in the rain, but we get the crew together
Speaker 2: and just talk about this place again. Yeah, man, and
Speaker 2: hopefully like I'll have my own footage.
Speaker 1: So did ed by on new was he wronged over
Speaker 1: and over now in the mythologies robbed on tablets of
Speaker 1: destiny stuff and uh, I think weapons maybe if you
Speaker 1: look into those theories, but show he castrated on he
Speaker 1: he bit his uh his manhood off in the uh
Speaker 1: in those mythologies, and and so I think that's symbolic.
Speaker 1: But now they were who was it? Now? Inky was
Speaker 1: married to Aleilu daughter, so that that's his wife, the
Speaker 1: mother of mar Duke. I forgot. I forget her name. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been a while. I haven't done ellaheim etymology in
Speaker 1: a while. Shout out, Adrian damn Keina is her name.
Speaker 1: She's a Sumerian deity.
Speaker 3: So Cronos castrated uh uh Urinus.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the same story. That's the same story.
Speaker 3: With with a scythe made out of adamant that he
Speaker 3: got from his mother.
Speaker 1: Gaya Anu is similar to Uranus, and so it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if Alelu was had that app Dude, that's
Speaker 1: I have to I should think you guys should talk
Speaker 1: to Adrian. He has some pretty uh, pretty cool theories
Speaker 1: about the Anonachi uh from his research and his co
Speaker 1: author who lives in Africa.
Speaker 3: Uh huh what is this member? What is this penis
Speaker 3: that is constantly being off right?
Speaker 2: Right? O?
Speaker 1: Cyrus Penis? And and yeah, Washington d C, Washington Monument.
Speaker 1: Why are they so obsessed with this pole? I think
Speaker 1: it is the North Pole. I think that's what they're showing.
Speaker 1: This is the connection to the swastika and everything else.
Speaker 1: It's the North Pole. Aaron's Rod, dude, it's Aaron's Rod.
Speaker 1: It's it's the well I've I've related, I've done too
Speaker 1: many King Arthur references to day no more. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the sword in the stone, Yeah, it's there's there's many
Speaker 1: symbolic references that, but yes, that could represent the you
Speaker 1: know your sword, Well, it's it's you stuck in you know,
Speaker 1: the most crystallized of elements right in the material world.
Speaker 1: Obviously your our spirit stuck in these bodies as well
Speaker 1: as here on this plane. And you got to free that.
Speaker 1: You got to pull that sword from that stone guy
Speaker 1: and take that gray pill and uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Any well, there's a sword in the stone in Italy.
Speaker 3: I don't know you've seen it.
Speaker 1: I haven't. Oh, dude, the headless Green Knight. I'm doing
Speaker 1: a Green Man episode. Guys. We're talking about how the
Speaker 1: head of the Green Knight was venerated and this this
Speaker 1: could be the head right the penis head I don't know,
Speaker 1: or the actual head.
Speaker 3: The place at the skull Golgatha.
Speaker 1: Dude, there's yeah, yeah, dude, this is wild.
Speaker 3: This is in Tuscany. This is the real sword in
Speaker 3: the stone.
Speaker 1: Let me go try.
Speaker 3: The the legend of Monticeppi, the sacred San Galgano Sword
Speaker 3: in the stone. Dude, I was so hoping that you
Speaker 3: were going to go there and fillm this. Are you
Speaker 3: going back to Italy?
Speaker 2: Yes, I am for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you have family there, Nick?
Speaker 2: No? Oh well no, I do it just I'm not
Speaker 2: about to go visit them.
Speaker 1: It'd be a hole to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that it's just two totally different types of people.
Speaker 1: I figured, yeah, yeah, I uh but yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: think about.
Speaker 2: That, but uh no, definitely would. Uh no, I was
Speaker 2: gonna actually I was even told hellas. At one point
Speaker 2: I was going to go. I was like two or
Speaker 2: three months ago. I was actually like booking it and everything.
Speaker 2: I was going to go for like almost a month.
Speaker 2: But then I kind of had all these events come up,
Speaker 2: like as an option, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: let me not blow thousands and thousands of dollars and
Speaker 2: go to Italy and advertise the podcast instead for a
Speaker 2: few months, you know, and instead, you know, I went
Speaker 2: all the places and some other things. But no, eventually
Speaker 2: I am definitely going back. I would really like to
Speaker 2: go back to Rome again, actually, even though it was
Speaker 2: ready there for a bit, and a few other places.
Speaker 3: So this guy, uh, he got his arm ripped apart
Speaker 3: by wolves. Tell me that's not symbolic. And he also
Speaker 3: found the stone. I have to get into the folklore
Speaker 3: on it, but it's it's really interesting and highly symbolic.
Speaker 3: This is all in Tuscany. And if there's a link,
Speaker 3: because I say.
Speaker 1: There's the Nights, dude, the whole Yeah, I mean these
Speaker 1: orders of knights, bro like, who knows that they all
Speaker 1: had their own sword in the stone that they all
Speaker 1: went and tried to pull. And there were these these
Speaker 1: ancient relics that helped. I don't know, dude, I'm just
Speaker 1: now starting to get into this stuff. This is a
Speaker 1: deep dive that I've been wanting to do for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that, uh and you guys have influenced
Speaker 1: me along the way to kind of do it with
Speaker 1: the stuff y'all talk about. So, yeah, someone said tear
Speaker 1: tire like the city God. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's located in the Montseeppe Chapel in Tuscany and
Speaker 3: is associated with Saint Gogano unlike this. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: the guy who was attacked by wolves. There's a whole
Speaker 3: story about him. Yeah, the Night Golgano Golgatti was a
Speaker 3: knight who had to change, had a change of heart.
Speaker 3: After a vision and a sign of his commitment to
Speaker 3: a new peaceful life, he thrust his sword into a stone.
Speaker 3: His action turned the symbol of war into a symbol
Speaker 3: of peace and devotion, they say. After his death, the
Speaker 3: chapel was built around the stone at the Monteseppe Hill,
Speaker 3: and he became known as San Gulgano. The ruins of
Speaker 3: a larger abbey built in his honor can be found
Speaker 3: at the bottom of the hill.
Speaker 1: I'd love to visit that place, man, I bet the
Speaker 1: energy there is something great.
Speaker 3: Wow, he's putting this symbol into into the stone instead
Speaker 3: of taking it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting, very interesting. Uh, gives it a
Speaker 1: whole new meaning in the way, you know. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if y'all had anything else on
Speaker 1: the subject today. This was a banger, dude. These episodes
Speaker 1: keep getting better and better. Uh, the more I learn
Speaker 1: about this stuff. So I appreciate you guys hanging out
Speaker 1: let me talking about it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think got these rust that gods are just
Speaker 3: the beginning. Once you start to understand that these are
Speaker 3: the frontiers of the human mind, right, these are sort
Speaker 3: of where we interact with you know, new ideas and
Speaker 3: new new thoughts that are coming into our heads, you
Speaker 3: can kind of understand why you have such huge explosions
Speaker 3: of creativity around like the read discovery of these old ways.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, once you start to understand these symbols and
Speaker 3: how they relate to the rest of the universe, you
Speaker 3: can actually use them for you and a lot of
Speaker 3: people did to create the world that we see around us.
Speaker 3: It's it's highly linked to new thoughts and new associations,
Speaker 3: mind expanding.
Speaker 1: Tyranny. You just uh, this makes me think of a
Speaker 1: whole another story. You just you just maybe connected something
Speaker 1: for me. Thank you. We're not going to get into that.
Speaker 2: Was it the biting that connected something for you?
Speaker 1: No, it was the second in line and uh basically
Speaker 1: stolen birthright, I don't know, Yeah, that that that is
Speaker 1: what happened. It's all about who who was ruling in
Speaker 1: on Niboru right in this other I think another realm
Speaker 1: if you want me, you know, I think the uh,
Speaker 1: the alien thing maybe you know, could be a scio deception.
Speaker 1: But these stories, these mythologies, I think there is some
Speaker 1: truth in there, especially with the with the certain deities
Speaker 1: that that you see in all these ancient cultures. But
Speaker 1: like I said, yeah, eloheima etymologies tone. He'll be doing
Speaker 1: those again soon, doing those again soon. But anyway, did
Speaker 1: you guys have anything else I wanted to plug.
Speaker 3: Or I'll check out tomorrow's show on the Alchemy Mondays
Speaker 3: because I'm going to be making tea in the Soxsoly Extractor.
Speaker 3: We could do anything, It'll be awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that brought back memories when I was fucking
Speaker 2: making steroids in my.
Speaker 3: Kitchen, dude.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: They made me come down and signed for it. They
Speaker 3: would not leave it on the porch because apparently the
Speaker 3: vacuum pumps are highly coveted in the drug making market
Speaker 3: because you can lower the temperature of anything that you're
Speaker 3: trying to boil to a degree that it's not going
Speaker 3: to be as dangerous. So these vacuum pumps keep the
Speaker 3: danger levels way down when manufacturing anything with this lab equipment.
Speaker 1: I'm not making drugs. I'm just I'm just doing alchemy.
Speaker 2: I was yet. I was just gonna alchemists before I
Speaker 2: even fucking knew it.
Speaker 3: Dude, everybody is. You got to rediscover it.
Speaker 1: The people that cook methamphetamine are the alchemist.
Speaker 2: I was using the ship. I literally had a beaker
Speaker 2: with stuff on the stove and makes it dissolving crap,
Speaker 2: and then I was filtered. It was fucking por Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had a vacuum sucking the ship through filter.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: That I had two dudes bottling up this ship for me.
Speaker 2: Because I had so much to make, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I was paying people, yo.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started, dude, don't get started. My thirty three.
Speaker 1: But I was a very wild young man and my
Speaker 1: early or my later teenage years, my early twenties before
Speaker 1: I had Yeah, yeah, guys, I took the deal.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm doing so well. I'm in a
Speaker 2: one bedroom apartment.
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Speaker 1: had a good time. Yeah, anyway, guys, I'll stay great,
Speaker 1: piled you all got anything else to say? All good?
Speaker 3: Oh, check out the trialogues with me Ethan, Bigo and
Speaker 3: Ricardo tomorrow. It's gonna be a good time as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I only YouTube because I didn't know if you wanted
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