Speaker 1: Good morning at seven am hero on Wednesday, May seventh,
Today and Ben Rude, you can expect well rained because
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Speaker 1: From the Mercedes benz abed Rooge Studios starts now.
Speaker 3: All start to it. You want to present Off the
Bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: I gotta come off the pitch.
Speaker 3: Now, here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abar.
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on y'all? Welcome ben Ogpe, Wednesday May seven,
twenty twenty five. Hope everybody's having a great day today.
Please be safe out there on the roads. It is
very wet and whatnot. As Taylor alluded to, there so
be safe coming in today wherever you're listening in the
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TB ls U, T Bob, Jake, Jordan, and Ta Ta
with you. Dylandra remains out covering the the cmas are Nope,
it's not the CMA CMS ACMs. Yes, the ACMs. Mm hmm.
What's the difference. I don't know. I don't know American
Country Music Awards or sus the Country Music American Awards.
I don't I don't Alrea the Country Music Awards. I
guess see today not American le that's a bit redundant
if you see him double a. Uh hey, so I
got a question. Well, first off, how's the one do today? Jake?
Congratulations your last day of thirty nine? How are you
feeling it is?
Speaker 4: I'm I'm proud of you for because you knew it
and I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I no birthdays, Okay, how who told
you or in front of you? Dude? I know birthdays? Dude?
What can I say? I know? Birthdays?
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody definitely told you. But it's still I appreciate it.
As you said when we were coming back into the show. Here,
I'm about to fully be a man. Yeah, Mike Gundy,
I'm forty, come at me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see finally. I mean, look how long
ago it was for Gundy? And he looks great. It
was a long time ago, you know what I'm saying.
And he looks great.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: You know we were folding it up. He kind of
got abs like we were in college. I think we
were in colleges. A right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right, like, hell, yeah,
that's a long time. We're good. We're good. Yeah. Jordan's thirteen, Jordan,
what's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 5: I'm great, man, you know, twenty five feel great. I
guess you know exactly what's the difference. You know, I
feel like my brain is developed now, you know. I'm like,
you know what, a lot of stuff that I thought
was not stupid is actually very stupid.
Speaker 2: So the best part is that just continues every five
years of your life. Right, that's brutal, Like it's just
always five years later, like god, I was an idiot? Yeah,
which it always intrigues me to think, like, man, what
am I doing now? Then in five years we're going
to a little back out and be like what was
I thinking? But I don't know, I don't know. I
don't know what it is, but I know it's something.
So that's gonna be interesting to find out. Check back
in five years. Tay, Tay, what's up brother? How are
we doing today? We're doing good.
Speaker 1: It was not a terrible drive in despite the weather,
which what a shocker that was, right. I mean, I'm
leaving the house this morning, I'm like, Okay, we're gonna
probably get here at like six forty. That's just what's
going to happen. It's bad, huge, but did not occur
this morning.
Speaker 2: So look, I know that people are gonna disagree probably,
And I'm on the road a bit earlier though I
haven't been driving in that early as of late, right,
like I've been coming in like I've been dry on
the road at like you know, a little after six,
which is you know, a time where a lot of
people I guess, all I'm saying is and I know
in the afternoon gets all I'm saying is. So I
feel like the interesting provements are starting and paying dividends.
Speaker 1: No, it's uh like last Wednesday evening, I had to
drive up here. I drive up here sometimes on the
weekends to do LSU games. Like it's been pretty good,
regardless of that's.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, dude, it's been It's been way, way,
way smoother as of like I don't know what the
science is behind because they did moving the twelve from
one side to the other. I don't know what it did,
but it was like it like popped like a like
a I don't know, like a like popped it open.
It's been cool, man, God, it's gonna be really nice
when all of them are done too. Uh So on
today's show, though, we have to say, so start whatever.
I mean, you guys already know, uh well, we're gonna
get into to say same thing every day. But I
did want to start with a question and nobody google
it at first, Okay, I want to see if we
can figure this out. Last night I was sleeping and
my entire house was rattled to its foundations by a
booming peal of thunder, just a big bomb, and like
you know, me and my wife both shoot up, Like
I don't know how the kids didn wake up, but
like really, like you know, it felt like a bomb
went off. What is thunder? Oh that's a good question
because we know lightning is something about like static electricity
or like neutrons, electrons, and it's like a track to
the ground, so like whatever. I don't really know what
heat lighting is like. But what is thunder?
Speaker 5: M might have to be uh man, I was I
saying like a clouds farting or something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's kind of what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, thunders is sound, So that's kind
of what I got.
Speaker 2: For sense file movement? Is it something maybe? Okay, okay, okay, okay,
here's what I'm thinking. You know, where you're in a
pool and you have two hands and you go straight
down in the pool and the water separates and then
comes together and like in the middle. Maybe it's something
like a pressure, yes, like a high low pressure system
that creates like a like a bubble and then like
a collapse and then like the like a pressure cooker. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In my mind, I thought it was just like, Okay,
the lightning is about to happen, right, yeah, right, all
these no, I think that's all this ball that all
this bolt of energy, right, so it's kind of like
it gets ready to go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and then you hear the thunder.
Speaker 4: But one of the questions from all the energy that
it's about to happen with the lightning.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you think so the thunder is tied to
the lightning. Yes, yeah, gotta be, Yeah, because we can
time out how far the storm is or is not
from the lightning. Yeah. Okay, so maybe the thunder is
and and and the distance is why we hear it later.
Because light travels faster than sound, So maybe the thunder
is not is nothing, okay, so maybe it just is
the sound of lightning. I can I can see that.
Speaker 1: Like the thunder and the lightning are kind of the
same energy energy surrounding like the lightning bolt.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, so well no, I'm not even saying like
kind of the same thing. I'm saying are the same thing,
just that light travels faster than sound. But I don't
know that's true, man. I Like you see, when you
see a sniper shoot something from like a mile away,
does the bullet travel faster in the sound? Yeah? Typically, yeah, typically,
because like the light definitely travels faster than sound.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll see like, okay for me, like if you're
watching a hunt and show and the deer's like four
hundred yards away.
Speaker 2: Sometimes like there is not a g on the hunting show.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll like the deer will react before you hear
the sound, it's already hit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's not even that far. I mean
if you're like sound pretty so And that makes sense
because lightning like travels way faster. You see the lightning one, two, three, four,
then you hear the thunder, so then you know it's
X miles away because of how far sounds travel. Yeah,
I mean, so now you know how does lightning work.
I know it comes from the ground, It's right, it's
some attractive force from the ground, right, And.
Speaker 5: I know like you couldn't have like a metal star
round yet you know you get struck with a a
metal pole.
Speaker 2: We know electricity is conducted, yeah, through through metal. But
I'm wondering to is it like electron? How are the
what's going on in the clouds to produce that? What
for electron? I don't you think anybody gets that? That
was the less miles I don't think so, probably not,
probably not.
Speaker 4: We aged out of those jokes have a want.
Speaker 5: See this makes me think how a fifth grade will
wash me right now in the classroom if.
Speaker 2: We will sit here to have a game show. Are
you smarter than the fi?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I will get washed right now because I don't remember
none of this, like oh yeah, well, because the things we.
Speaker 2: Just walk around and we just take it all for granted.
I think we know, but then we have to stop
and realize, oh wait, we actually don't know. Yeah, I
would get killed right now.
Speaker 1: Like earlier y'all were talking about, Okay, you know, I've
a learned this and that. Every day I realized I
know less and less than I thought I did.
Speaker 2: That means you're on the right track, Yes, enlightenment, it
means you're on the right track. You can never trust
the man who thinks he knows everything. The only thing
that I know is that I don't know, which is funny.
That's what uh Socrates said as well. Basically, there's a
story about like one of socrates friends goes to the
oracle of Delphi and asks Socrates the wisest man in
the world. The oracle says yes, he tells Socrates, and
Socrates is like disturbed and annoyed, by the story because
he's like, I can't be and then his revelation was Okay,
well maybe she said that because I know that I
don't know. And so in my uh, my recognition of
ignorance is where that wisdom lies. You know.
Speaker 1: See, I I have been called the Socrates of Livingston
Parish once or twice, so just makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Sure, I've heard Actually, I've had people tell me they
asked the the Oracle of Zachary if if Taylor is
the wisest of LP The said yes. Wow. Some say
I'm just glad it get to work with. UH. All right,
so here we're gonna we're gonna go a break, we
get back into sports talk, but we're gonna we're gonna
fact check ourselves. So we'll have a full lightning and
thunder report on the other side, more OTB coming up next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around. It's
off the bench with Hester and T Bob.
Speaker 2: It's electric so credit to us, guys. I think we
nailed it. I think we nailed it. So Jake was
absolutely right. Thunder is just the is the sound of lightning,
so that is correct. Jordan mentioned the ground being involved
in the process. That is also a correct. Lightning is
a natural electual discharge that accords between a cloud and
the ground, between two clouds or within a cloud. Hence
how we get the you and the clouds lighting the ground. Whatever.
It's a rabbit and powerful electro static discharge generates it
by flash and the sound of thunder, and then thunder
well we know it. It's allowed rumbling, crackling or whatever,
but it's caused by the rapid expansion and contraction of
air along the path of a lightning bolt, creaty shockwave.
So I think we actually pieced it together. Guys, that
was a really good job. Guys. Credit to us. Thank you.
We went to school for something they got.
Speaker 4: We got four college degrees and we very much Meathead
explained how it all works.
Speaker 2: We even made sound effects in here tas. I love
you guys. It could have been the worst overting segment ever. Look, man,
just because you don't appreciate curiosity, I can't help you.
One of the things you just don't get it bro.
And that is and that is one of these signs
again we're talking of the signs of wise men. There's
something that I've noticed in reading a lot of biographies,
these these kind of next level thinkers, you're da Vincian things.
One thing they never lose are their childlike curiosity. Right,
DaVinci walks by a creek and he sees the water
swirling around the rock, and instead of just being like, oh,
look at that, he's wondering, why does the water swirl
like that? How does the fluid dynamic? How did and
then he discuvers fluidynamics and then he into it's uh well,
I mean but whatever. Then he into it said oh wait,
the air works like water, and aerodynamics are like fluid dynamics,
and so yeah, maintain your childlike curiosity, guys. This was
this was Da Vinci. He he he was. I don't
know if he discovered fluidynamics, but he did. I think
he was the first two into it that air aerodynamics
like air functions like water and how it swirled. And
like I remember flying the plane one time now know
where it felt like we got punch, Just whole plane
shook and the pilot came on He's basically, look, we
just hit another plane's wake. Essentially, it's just that you're
in a three D space. You're not just on all
the same plane. Were you in the plane? You were
on plane at O seven coming back from SEC championship game.
Huh yeah, I mean I remember celebrating. I don't remember turbulence.
You don't remember it dropping? No, uh planes. I remember everybody,
it's going to ship. It's good, just like down and
I know everybody just froze. Yeah, I know it's quiet.
You can hear a bouse on that plane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were celebrating, but yeah, it was some turbulan.
Speaker 2: And that is it hardball as hardball. We're going to
the ship. It was us. I mean, you know what
I'm saying. But when they chant that, there's a movie
where they chant that a hard yes, hard ball, no hardball.
Speaker 4: We just talked about it the chargers. I didn't know,
uh prop. Probably why you gotta bring up G Baby though,
we don't need that.
Speaker 2: Memory right now, RP. They don't know another about G Baby. Yeah,
I've seen the movie. Okay, okay, of course, anyway, what
were you gonna say, Tylor? You have some before you
get into Saints. No, so it's so we have to Okay,
we can go. I don't know where you're going. Uh, okay,
So let's talk about another member of this uh SAT's
draft class. And then James Slater in a bit had
a really good update on the Derek Carr situation in
which he is clearly in direct car contact with the
Derek Carr cap. But Ross Jackson had a great piece
on Louisiana Sports on Net. Again, guys, Louisiana Sports on
neet uh, it's built through guarantee. Here they are doing
an excellent job of covering all your favorite local sports
and Ross is uh spearheading the Saints coverage, and of
course he hoats lots on Saints a lockt on network
like it's it's it's very good and very thought provoking
and very good breakdowns. And one of the most recent
pieces has to do with a member of this Saint
Jeff class we have not talked about yet, and that
is Louisville corner Quincy Riley. And he asked the question,
could Quincy Riley start for the Saints in twenty twenty five?
And first, so let's talk about who Quincy Riley is
Jake and what he did. Because again we see what
appeared to be a common theme for the Saints this draft,
and one that feels obvious and it's almost like, why
don't you do this more? But it was productivity mentioned
Devin Neil. Yeah, three thousand yard seasons, seven yards carrier
every year, right, Danny Stutsman leading the Sooners in tackles
for three years. Well. Quincy Riley had twenty nine passes
defended his last two years at Louisville and fifteen picks
during his college career as a whole. Nine in the
last two years at Louisville fifteen That was the most
of anyone in this NFL draft. He has the most
interception turn yards by far. He's a track guy five ten,
two hundred and four four eight speed. But again, if
if I'm if I'm trying to evaluate talent and I'm
and I'm picking someone and it's a gamble as to
whether or not they'll be good, imagine just drafting all
the guys who are already good and like you think,
like it's gotta maybe give you a higher chance of hitting, Like,
at least on paper. I really like this draft class.
The more we unpack it. Yeah, So he was highly
productive multiple spots.
Speaker 4: You go all the way back to twenty twenty one
when he's at Middle Tennessee State, he was tied for
fourth in the FBS with five interceptions, first team All
Conference USA that same year. Also was All ACC in
twenty three and twenty four, so very productive player four
four eight. Now he's a little bit under five to eleven. Yeah,
and so like that's why he lasts into the fourth
round and it's not a first second round pick because
the production's there. The athleticism is there. All that's there, right,
The measurables a little off, but you know, this is
somebody that has been a ballhawk in his career. So
he has shown that even though he has a five
to ten corner, he can still go get the football.
So the production is through the roof. In two different spots.
He actually had like a third round grade on him.
So the Saint's probably feel like they got really good
at value in the fourth round there.
Speaker 2: But I am I am way way more.
Speaker 4: The side of go get production from a place like
Louisville opposed to this relative athletic score from this group
of five school.
Speaker 2: He only had three sacks.
Speaker 4: But if you do a deep dive into the numbers,
he's got this score, and this score tells me he
can get this in the NFL. No, No, that does
not You've tried that before. So like this draft, it
was way more about production. And you mentioned Stutsman, like
that's somebody. We know what he looks like at a
place like Oklahoma. You know what Ry looks like at
a place like Louisville.
Speaker 2: And as we're talking this out, one thing that I'm
realizing too, Jake, that will become more and more commonplace
and is interesting in scouting, is you know what Quincy
Riley looks like in a jump up in competition. Like
you said, he starts.
Speaker 4: At Middle Tennessee, at Middle Tennessee State, at Middle Tennessee State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ran the I believe it was the hundred and
the four by one h so elite speed. But he
starts there, he's very productive. Then he goes to a
better conference and he's All Conference right away twice by
the time until said and done. And so I like
seeing a guy who by merit earned his way up
to the Louisville level and then became an All acc selection.
And like I said, more picks than anybody in this
draft class. Now, okay, how does he fit in with
the northon Saints. You traded Latimore, you lose Paul Cinadebo
McKinstry looks to be one of your starting outside corners.
I think ideally you want a Lante Taylor to stay
in the slot. He's been very good there, So I
think essentially it comes down to maybe what Quincy Riley
and Isaac eatam At trying to compete for again, and
Alonte could bump outside and it came down to that.
But I think again, ideally an ideal world, he could
stay inside and it would be yeat him and Riley
competing on the outside there with Reid in Matthew as
your shafety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because obviously you know kool Aid is gonna be
on the other side there. I think Alante Taylor he
has to stay like that's he's much better playing a
nickel position than I think he is playing outside.
Speaker 2: And also like you're counting.
Speaker 4: On kool Aid to take a big step up, Yeah
you didn't. You didn't bring in like another marquee veteran corner.
So you're second year player and you traded up last
year and the second round and get him, so you
can be counting on him a lot. I mean, Riley
maybe could play inside there, but you just don't have
a lot of depth at corner right now, which is
funny because last year you felt like you had all
the death Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well you did. Yeah. I mean, look, you lose a
lot of more impulse in a debo in one year.
That's that's too big. That's two big guys to replaced.
So I agree with maybe not getting into the pulse
in the debo bidding war, but that's still big. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because again, like you brought somebody that you know back
that you're familiar with, but you didn't go get a
tier one day one, first week free agent to replace
those guys either. So you're going to be counting on
a major step up from kool aid and then somebody
like a Quincy Riley to be able, even though you
selected him in the fourth round, like he's got to
help from day one.
Speaker 2: It's true. It's a little bit of a risky position,
isn't it. It's a little bit of a risky positions.
Pretty good receivers in the South as well.
Speaker 4: You went and signed obviously justin Reed at a safety position.
But you know you had what you select Sinkor in
the third round as well out of VA Tech. Obviously
you still got tiring there. And Jordan Howden somebody that
you've you've liked in the past, but he's kind of
gone in and out of the lineup. So I would
I would actually kind of say the entire dB room.
Speaker 2: Is what like has like, oh it's thin, it's yes, yes,
absolutely absolutely and again again though, so that potential weakness
for this New Orleans Saints team. But my bigger takeaway,
as we're still so close to the draft is I
actually like how they prioritized who they were going to
select this year, and we'll see if it pays dividends. Again,
the great hope is that you hit on another six.
Do you hit on another seventeen? You know, one of
those draft classes that sets you up to be good
for for years to come, But only time will tell.
Coming home next, we're gonna get into Derek Carr as
James later has some reporting to really kind of lay
out exactly what's going on. Chris and Andrew said, is
that opening was right on time. My son Max asked
me exactly one minute prior what lightning was Let's go, dude,
there you go, shout out Max, what's up? Max? You
tell all your friends what it is. Remember, it's electrostatic
discharge between the ground and the clouds, between two points
two clouds. And remember, thunder is the sound of lightning
created by the rapid expansion and collapse of the air
around the path of the lightning. Okay, tell all your friends.
I guess it makes sense. Who I Thunder rumbles for
an extended time sometime when you get like streaky, like
those long streaks of lightning.
Speaker 5: It's funny you said that and it just thundered outside
like I felt that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did tesus the lightning thief? You a lightning thief?
Did you steal lightning? No?
Speaker 5: I was talk about like Percy Jackson stole lightning. That's
the whole Percy Giants, Percy Jackson, the lightning thief.
Speaker 2: Okay I'm not I'm not thirteen again, so I don't
know twenty five who stole fire from the Gods eighties?
Apollo A good guess. So Nope, it wasn't Apollo. Okay,
my mom? Is it like a demi god? It's a
title of an alien movie, title of an alien movie Prometheus. Yeah, yeah,
I believe.
Speaker 5: No, well, yeah yeah he opened the Pandora's Box or
something like that.
Speaker 2: Sure, anyway, I guess I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I asked that question like I know for sure, I was,
I was, I was, I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna guess watch.
Speaker 1: Prometheus was totally my guess. We're gonna stick with that. No,
I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeahs ry, there are com there there. Yeah. And then
after that, his punishment by Zeus was him being chained
to a rock and having an eagle eat his of
her daily Yep. Oh that's rough. It's very brutal.
Speaker 1: It seems like a h rather unfortunate like circumstances relaxed.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just wanted to stay warm, freaking jerk. But
you stop impregnating human women, a lot of them, just like,
come on, get it together, get yourself together, get yourself together.
You have poor Hercules running around feeling like you don't
know what's up, what's down where he belongs.
Speaker 5: Hercules got it bad, especially when you have to do
that Atlas one, we had to like hold the world
on his back.
Speaker 2: That's brutal. I don't know much about her. The only
I don't know much about Hercules. Uh, beyond that, I
watched the cartoon recently with my kids. Really good cartoon,
cartoon act. I think the movie is good.
Speaker 4: All right, Well we get making a live action sorry
are they really yeah.
Speaker 2: A live action Disney Hercules or a just live action
Hercules movie. I'm down for like it was just a
live action Hercules movie. Trying sometimes, Okay, So I don't
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other stuff
mixed in off the bench with hester at Bob.
Speaker 2: Isaac. You very funny all of us walking around singing
this and not knowing, uh what at least one piece
of slang in this song was talking about. I was
old enough to know right on time. I was old
enough to know exactly what my man was talking about. See,
I was old enough too, but we just didn't know
it first and then we learned. I felt like it
was new slang at the time, like did you did you?
Are you saying that you were using that word to
refer to that before the song came out?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I don't think we were in the position
meeting room that I was in in the current time
we're using.
Speaker 2: That, okay, because I don't think I don't think we
had ever heard it until until the song. Now, I
wasn't like I think I was in like junior high
school something I got. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
probably high school. And then one of my buddies, Uh,
he named his World war Craft character Skeito, which is
great because he was an Orc rangers who's like firing
bows at people all the time. You know, you're shooting ropes. Okay, Yeah,
what a time? What a time? What a time alive?
Unlike now where you have to deal with Derek Carr
being your Saints quarterback. Uh. But Jane Slater doing some
great reporting on what the hell is going on with
Derek Carr right now? And here are a few I'm
gonna give you the high level points, and then we're
gonna play an audio clip from Jane where she gets into,
you know, the the the idea of is he checked out? Right?
Is he checked out? Is he is? He? Is he
giving the middle finger to the New Orleans things? But
here are the highlights of what she reported. First, Carr
has been to Nola twice in recent weeks to meet
with team doctors. I don't relax, save all your anger
till later. Just give him the facts real quick, or
the facts according to obviously the Derek Carr camp say.
He's been in the New Orleans twice a recent weeks
to meet with the team doctor. He believed he injured
his shoulders against the Giants. Well, just see a lot
of people clown about. I don't think it's that hard
to believe if it is, I mean, if it isn't right,
like when he leapt over, he came down on his
wrist and his shoulder whatever. Now why is he only
figuring out now? He says it's because he just started
to ramp up his workload, right that the offseting up
to this point, all he'd done is kind of soft
tossed with a few injured players of Kamara, and then
now that he's really getting into throwing, he realizes it
doesn't feel right. Uh, he does not want to have
surgery on that, because he's already had surgery on it.
But he's still navigating that decision, and finally decision expect
to be made sooner rather than later. Before you get
into Jane audio clip, anything there that stands out to anybody.
Speaker 5: Number one would definitely be the jump over the Giants game.
First of all, you didn't have to do that. You're
not Taysom Hill.
Speaker 2: That was But hold on, hold on, don't don't. Don't
get lost in the sauce here though, because we're not
here to We're not here to judge whether or not
the jump was dumb on second down or whatever it was. Like,
sure it was dumb. That's not the way now if
you but I want to I want to focus on
his injury though. Are you calling into question whether he
got hurt on that play?
Speaker 5: No, he definitely got jacked up, Like like, he definitely
got jacked up on that play.
Speaker 2: But down decisions, yeah, Like you didn't have to do that.
That's not your game. Whatever. Though, if you hate Derek Carr,
you shouldn't be that upset about it because it's probably
the thing that leads to him never playing for the
Saints again.
Speaker 5: Get the surgery. That's all about to say, get the.
Speaker 2: Exactly Okay, So obviously Jordan's running hot, very emotional. This
can't be trusted to to comment on it any anything else.
Jump out from the reported alleged facts there.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but kind of match yourself, right,
I mean, timeline wise and everything, Like if the workload
things legit, because like, yeah, if I'm soft tossing with
somebody in the backyard, you're like, you're not. You know's
go to Jody in a ton of energy, right, But
like when you ramp it up, and I guess it
makes sense, do you buy the workload?
Speaker 2: Ramp up? Jake? I mean, in my mind, I'm with Taylor,
it kind of makes sense to me. I mean not really,
why not.
Speaker 4: If you have an injury like that, it typically is
going to show up somewhat no matter what you're doing,
how light it is, it's going to you're going to
feel it's some how, some way. It's not going to
just be feeling greased up and ready to go. And
then it's like, man, when I was still in ten yards,
I didn't feel it, But when I was going to
twenty yards, it's that's when it really.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've all had injuries.
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, I can throw it ten yards and
I'm not dying, But when I go twenty yards it's worse.
Speaker 2: That's that's what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, same thing like if I got a knee injury, Man,
I can jog it hurts, I can jog back. You
can't sprint like I'm I'm not saying that it didn't
get worse, but you knew something was there. I don't
care if you're throwing a football and you got a
shoulder injury your quarterback, like you're gonna feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe something like that. He's doing like applauseible deniability
situation where he knew something was there, but he also
knows that this is a pretty good excuse, where like,
again we heard that. I'm like, okay, yeah, you know,
I think I think I buy that.
Speaker 1: And so you're it's like, oh, you know that herb
but not that bad like Jake's talking about. Yeah, and
it's like it's like, oh, this is probably manageable. Maybe
it'll pass. And then yeah, it doesn't any worse. I mean,
there's there's so many things, all right.
Speaker 2: So now and again, the thing that I remain most
upset about is the beginning of a new era coach
tieth and he's nowhere to be found. And here's what
Jane had to say about that sentiment.
Speaker 6: Is Carr, why isn't he around the building. It's a
new coaching staff. Why isn't he contributing more? He is
the face of the franchise. Well, it's my understanding that
he has been down to New Orleans twice in the
last few weeks. He's met with the team doctor at
the facility. Now it's unclear if he's met with Kellen
Moore in person. I know that he and Kellen Moore
have at least talked, but it doesn't sound like and
I've heard this because you know, living here in Dallas,
I got a lot of friends that are Saints bands.
I know a lot of people in New Orleans. It
was beginning to feel like maybe Carr was giving them
the middle finger down there. It is my understanding, according
to someone close to him, that that is not the case.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 6: He has tried to figure out what makes the most
sense for his shoulder, and he is in constant communication
with Mickey Loomis. But that sounds like there's going to
be decisions sooner rather than later. So that's all the
update that I can give you. I wish that I
had more, but that's more than we've had in the
last couple of weeks time.
Speaker 2: So to car Obviously, David Carr Tuck to Jane. They
both network.
Speaker 4: Here's the green room back there, here's the other thing though.
Speaker 2: That just makes me even more angry and makes it
more clear how checked out he is has it even
can't even confirm if he's met in person with coach Teeth. Literally,
what's he doing? You just show up and go to
see the doctor. You don't even go to see teeth.
That's an issue right there. They're saying, Oh, he showed
up multiple times in New Orleans. Why are you showing
up in New Orleans? Why are you not here all
the time? Why do you not live here? Face of
the franchise, not my face.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, he showed up multiple times. He
just fly in and leave, Like why is he not
here all the time? You saw Tyler shuck throwing with
his teammates, like where's Derek?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And that would bother me if if I'm on this team,
if you're hurt, you should you gotta be there everything.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, khmer or something man, And look,
Kamire is proven the obviously whatever he's earned that he
can do that thing. You ain't earned that. And you're
the quarterback. Quarterbacks just different.
Speaker 4: You have to be the boys like okay, like you're hurt, sure,
you have to stay there in the facility. You can
now where you fly to. You don't fly into New
Orleans and pop back out. You fly if you see
a specialist. Yes, go fly out.
Speaker 2: You come back, and you fly out and then you
come back.
Speaker 4: Like when you walk into a locker room, you gotta
know the quarterbacks there at all times. Right when I
was playing with Rivers, we'd walk in him and Gates
are gonna be playing dominoes right there on the table
as soon as we walk in, right, They're all they're
gonna be playing dominoes.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have it in his hand.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be talking trash, and it's gonna be three
four people gathering around, and he's gonna be he's gonna
be and shlamming the every time.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be right in the middle of the room.
Speaker 4: Right the thing with Peyton, you'd walk in with him,
and Peyton would have his morning coffee. He'd have his
hand in his pocket, and he'd walked to every like
section of the locker room and chat it up, you know,
chop it up a little bit, bust you a little bit,
walk to the rib session on everybody around the every
little section of the locker room. He'd walk over like
whatever you were doing, Like he'd have a one liner,
oh okay, and then keep walking like and he was
a quarterback and you knew he was going to be there,
and he's integrated in the team. You weren't going to
beat him in the building, you weren't going to leave,
but you know after him, like he was going to
be the first one in, last one out.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the role of that position.
Speaker 4: That's why you get paid forty five plus million dollars
per year. You don't get paid to pop in and out.
I don't care, like if you're hurt, that happens. Ish
happens in the NFL with injuries. Yeah, but I should
know that you're flying out to go see somebody, not
flying in to come check in for two seconds and
then fly back out like again, it's alry, it's too
far down the road, Like if I'm on that team,
it's too far down the road, Like hey, hey, Bud,
hey we moved on. Spencer's here, See I was here.
They just here doing photo shoots in the corner.
Speaker 5: About to say so as a locker room, does that
make it easier to rally around these new young quarterbacks
than when car you know, was around because Rattler and
Shucks is here like you said, and cars, you know,
being a megachurch pastor in Vegas and all that whatever
he's doing car reviews, So like does that make it
easier for a locker room and be like, all right,
you know, we go rally around these guys forget you man,
like you said, we moved on, We move past that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you want to rally around them,
but you gotta hope they're good. Like what's the feeling, Jake?
Now you only play with great quarterbacks, but I wonder
what the feeling is when you know you have a
bad one and you're like, okay, guys, everybody look put
out good film because a lot of us are getting cut,
Like this season's not gonna go well and we all
got to look out for ourselves. Good luck, guys, I'll
see you on the other side. I am very spoiled.
I've gone down the list before. I'll do it again.
Speaker 4: My first quarterback in high school, Brock Berlin, went to
Florida and then Miami, and my second quarterback, Brent Rawls,
went to Oklahoma. My third quarterback, John David Boody went
to USC. My quarterback at LSU, JaMarcus Russell, number four pick,
Matt Flynn, played ten years in the league. And then
I went to PR seventeen and the sheriff good. Yeah, God,
those are the quarterbacks. And since I was in high
school so very spoiled, don't know bad quarterback play.
Speaker 2: But I do know.
Speaker 4: But also with that being said, I know what it
looks like like, I know what great quarterback play looks like.
I know what the responsibility of that position looks like.
And somebody mentioned he was golf South said Drew Brees
didn't live in Nola in the off season.
Speaker 2: He didn't. He lived in San Diego.
Speaker 4: But as soon as they said be back on this day, ye,
he was there for he was there. And then he
didn't leave when he lived in San Diego during the
off season. Look, I came back to Baton Rouge during
the off season. All season. It was like a few months.
It's like six weeks, six seven weeks. Yeah, there you
go back. Then six seven weeks you'd come back and
you visit family, and then you go back and you
don't leave until June, and you come back for a
little bit and then you go back in July, you
get that.
Speaker 2: Break between uh is it is it many camp? Yeah? Yeah,
you get a little.
Speaker 4: That that's your last like, hey, you get three weeks. Hey,
go get it out of your system because once you
come back.
Speaker 2: And also and also Breeze would also meet up with
the receivers somewhere, even any fly the mount fly mountain. Yeo.
And then when it would Manning do the same thing. Yeah, yeah,
whren't they always doing to like Duke or somewhere.
Speaker 4: He'd go to Duke and then he'd he'd ask us
all to come to Manning Passing Academy down in Thibodeau.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4: So like me, Jacob Tammy, Wes Welker, Decker Dt, we
all went down to Thibodeau and we would throw with Peyton,
but also throw with the college quarterbacks there too. Decker
he look good naked. Harry the Harry son of a
go Harry Center. It's pretty coolctually. I always thinking it
was being pretty manly, so like that, Actually he's got
you got Lumberjack, you know, oh sick.
Speaker 2: More attracted than I thought.
Speaker 5: Crazy question man, Not no.
Speaker 2: Not you, Derek Carr. You're probably like a lizard, you know, hairless,
there's no doubt, slimy, there's no doubt. Is he easy?
Like the most hated Saints player that you can remember?
Eli Apple? Yeah, oh god, it's I'm gonna say Apple,
because it's very easy to become hated as a quarterback.
It is actively tough to be as disliked as a
corner as Eli Apple was. Like like you also.
Speaker 5: Stepped on an ant pile with it, like by this
in the city's food sucks.
Speaker 2: People are bumpkins. He brought upon himself and being trash. Annie.
If you're listening to Still Love You boo, Oh my
god it I still love you Anny.
Speaker 5: I know you don't like me, but I love your
brown Jerry's bird.
Speaker 2: Shaves his body hair Scott's right.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's no doubt. He's got a slipping slide on
his legs. They're in a hair in sight, not one.
Speaker 2: Swimmer. He shaved his arms out of here. Sad state
of affairs. More OTB coming up next off the bench.
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