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Speaker 1: Dick Gabriel. This is the statewide edition of the Big
Speaker 1: Blue Insider. Better late than ever. We had the Double
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Speaker 1: is the Big Blues Sider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Rudlich here
Speaker 1: in the studio, Eron Gershan joining us by phone. Aaron,
Speaker 1: let's start with the most recent news, and that of
Speaker 1: course is signing day. And of course now it's to
Speaker 1: take the bitter with the better kind of thing, because
Speaker 1: you talk about brand new Wildcats, although they're a little
Speaker 1: bit of an abstract, because of course there are names
Speaker 1: on a list right now, some will enroll early, but
Speaker 1: also news of Wildcats leaving through the portal and Jeppiicor
Speaker 1: and I on with Tom Leach earlier tonight filling in
Speaker 1: for Mark Stoops as it were, and Jeff pointed out,
Speaker 1: and I agree with him, Kentucky has lost players from
Speaker 1: the football team through the portal so far over the
Speaker 1: last few years. But I think Dane Key is the
Speaker 1: biggest loss through the portal, and I take it.
Speaker 2: You agree, Yeah, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the guy that is fifth in program
Speaker 3: history and receiving yards. I mean, and did that in
Speaker 3: three years.
Speaker 2: So absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, i'd honestly say you've seen two of the
Speaker 3: three biggest ones in this cycle. Keishawn Silver is a
Speaker 3: guy who had a really nice season. It's not talked
Speaker 3: about because the team stunk, but that was a guy
Speaker 3: who I thought got a lot better in his second
Speaker 3: year at Kentucky. Was a former five star recruit and
Speaker 3: you can't teach his size. He's gonna go out and
Speaker 3: get paid in that portal ahead of his last college season.
Speaker 3: So I think between Silver and Key keeping the top
Speaker 3: one for sure, and then Justin Rodgers a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, which wasn't mutual parting the ways, but just
Speaker 3: the fact it was a key starter there. Those are
Speaker 3: probably the three biggest portal losses they've had, and Dan
Speaker 3: Key definitely tops the I can't say, you know, when
Speaker 3: you go four and eight, it's nothing should be a surprise,
Speaker 3: and you know, Mark Stuke's kind of alluded it wasn't
Speaker 3: there in person, was still making the drive back from Clemson,
Speaker 3: but I heard him talk about, Hey, you know, there
Speaker 3: are gonna be some surprises, don't panic.
Speaker 2: And I was, you know, assuming it was going to
Speaker 2: be one like that.
Speaker 3: So it's unfortunate Lexington kid, his father obviously played here.
Speaker 3: You have to wonder exactly what went on behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: maybe to kel Schwartz getting pried away, who knows what
Speaker 3: it was exactly, or maybe it was just the poor
Speaker 3: results and the lack of continuity. There's probably a million
Speaker 3: different things, but you know, losing dan Key at the
Speaker 3: very least. You know, when you put all those things together,
Speaker 3: it's a tough pr hit for a team that's taken
Speaker 3: a lot of hits right now.
Speaker 1: Well, of course he needs to take a big step
Speaker 1: in his development this coming season, and I with all
Speaker 1: due respect to the kids coming back, I don't know
Speaker 1: that he'll get a chance to do that here at
Speaker 1: Kentucky with once again an ole line that is rebuilt.
Speaker 1: I would guess, Aaron, we may not know the names
Speaker 1: of at least three starters coming up this year the
Speaker 1: next season for the football Cats. We're pretty certain it'll
Speaker 1: be cutter Buwllie. But you know, how much better could
Speaker 1: he get? What kind of relationship can he build with
Speaker 1: Dane Key behind a rebuild line. So if he needs,
Speaker 1: you know, camer ready turnkey kind of offense to make
Speaker 1: that last step of improvement toward the NFL, he probably
Speaker 1: I hate to say it because I love watching him play,
Speaker 1: he probably does need to move on.
Speaker 3: I can't disagree with that. I think it's probably you know,
Speaker 3: it's definitely best for him. You look at the situation
Speaker 3: next year, the quarterback situation, like you said, is gonna
Speaker 3: be cutter Bowllie. Mark Stup said today they probably do
Speaker 3: need to go out of transfer. We all, it's not
Speaker 3: officially yet, but we know Brock Vandergrift's going to be
Speaker 3: moving on. We'll see what Gavin Winstat wants to do.
Speaker 3: I think that's more a guy you want as your
Speaker 3: second string if he's coming back, and then you're bringing
Speaker 3: into true freshman quarterbacks who aren't going to start next year.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, the questions that quarterback now, it would
Speaker 3: be for him what third wide receiver coaching four years?
Speaker 3: He had Witty for two years, so that's a lot
Speaker 3: and third three offense coordinators in four years. Uh, you
Speaker 3: know going up front. I know doesn't coach him directly,
Speaker 3: but offensive line coach. Ching's just why not go to
Speaker 3: a more stable environment for your last college season when
Speaker 3: it's you, it's your league year. He's a guy that
Speaker 3: has NFL talent. He the way he worked on his body.
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen a lot of stuff on social
Speaker 3: media calling.
Speaker 2: Him Medieva and all this.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the wrong receiver in that room.
Speaker 2: Not going to name names, but you're not. Dan Key
Speaker 2: is not a diva.
Speaker 3: Did he have some stupid penalties, both being against Vanderbilt, Sure,
Speaker 3: but Deion Walker had some stupid penalties in his time here.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen had a stupid penalty. I remember at his
Speaker 3: time here, great players, mcdumb mistakes.
Speaker 2: That kid worked his butt off.
Speaker 3: You see it in the way he improved his body.
Speaker 3: He looked more of the part this year. It played
Speaker 3: into I mean, I think heil in one or two
Speaker 3: drops Hall season. That's not the guy. So you know,
Speaker 3: wherever he goes, hopefully it's a stable environment and he
Speaker 3: has a.
Speaker 2: Strong ear and he goes and gets paid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the big surprise to me today,
Speaker 1: even more than than Dan Key leaving, was was Shorts leaving,
Speaker 1: you know, and Mark Stoops at his news and again
Speaker 1: you were traveling, but in his news he made it
Speaker 1: clear that that caught him off guard. And honestly, Aaron,
Speaker 1: I thought that was such a great hire. I thought
Speaker 1: Stoops did a terrific job too, And in identifying this
Speaker 1: guy bringing him on, I thought he did a great job.
Speaker 1: The kids clearly responded to him, and boom, he's gone
Speaker 1: now and had to pay her. Nebraska or whoever he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay a lot of money to get him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, five hundred thousand dollars file. And but you know,
Speaker 3: at the same time that one came on to my radars,
Speaker 3: it's Dana Holgerson. And Dana Holgerson is who Dekel Shorts
Speaker 3: played for West Virginia and he got him starting coaching
Speaker 3: both at West Virginia and Houston. So you know, it's
Speaker 3: a large buyout, but Nebraska has the financial power to
Speaker 3: do it, and you know, Schwortz probably feels more comfortable
Speaker 3: with Holgerson than compared to what you know, he had
Speaker 3: to deal with in his first year here.
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't easy. I'm sure for him either.
Speaker 3: You go look at the offenses he's been in and coached,
Speaker 3: they're all top passing offenses. At Houston, they were a
Speaker 3: top ten passing unit.
Speaker 2: In two of his years there.
Speaker 3: So here you're talking about a bottom ten passing unit
Speaker 3: and wide receivers are gonna leave. You know, you lost
Speaker 3: Dame Key already. Barry On Brown will see what happens.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be surprised if we hear something on him soon.
Speaker 3: Jamary Macklin sounds like it's about fifty to fifty right
Speaker 3: now what he wants to do, So you know you'd
Speaker 3: be going through a rebuild in that room. Just it
Speaker 3: makes sense for him and it stinks for Kentucky. They're
Speaker 3: gonna have to you know, this is gonna be his
Speaker 3: seventh wide.
Speaker 2: Receiver coach in thirteen years. That's to have a curzy number.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're striving for continuity nowadays with offensive coordinators and
Speaker 4: wide receiver coaches and like flies. But I expected some
Speaker 4: change here. I mean they needed to have some change
Speaker 4: with this football program to get back to leadership and
Speaker 4: discipline some of the things that Macklin talked about in
Speaker 4: his press conference. I just don't know how to judge
Speaker 4: National Signing Day anymore. And it's it's.
Speaker 1: Not really the same.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've only got eight, nine, ten guys, and
Speaker 4: then you're kind of waiting on the transfer portal to
Speaker 4: be your starters while these guys are you just maybe
Speaker 4: hope that they stay with the school. It's really taken
Speaker 4: the pizazz out of this day and we're kind of
Speaker 4: just waiting to see, you know what, guy leaves his
Speaker 4: team to try to find playing time.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, you're totally right. Look, that's why
Speaker 3: I think I do like to change to the front
Speaker 3: of the month to try to give these kids some shine.
Speaker 3: But yeah, everyone's worried about the portals. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: just the nature of the beast. It's basically a free agency.
Speaker 3: And you know, Vince merrilicks to call this the NFL draft,
Speaker 3: but it's not. It's not like they're picking players of
Speaker 3: the day of and you know, maybe we'll get this
Speaker 3: five star with this tick. That's not how it works.
Speaker 3: You know, this is kind of like a second it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a amateur free agency, if you will.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's thanks for the freshman involved, I think,
Speaker 3: But you're right. I mean, none of these kids are guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Look at their twenty twenty three high school class. They
Speaker 3: were talking two years ago that they signed. They signed
Speaker 3: in December twenty two with I forget who I think
Speaker 3: Javonne Brown and Tommy Zismeier both hit the portal today.
Speaker 3: They signed nineteen kids.
Speaker 5: I believe it's either seven or eight I have now
Speaker 5: left the program.
Speaker 3: I mean, so you're talking about almost fifty percent of.
Speaker 2: That class and who knows what.
Speaker 3: You know, The twenty twenty four class was one they
Speaker 3: really like. I'm sure they're gonna lose some reserves from
Speaker 3: that class in the next two days here too, So there.
Speaker 2: Is a lot of unknown.
Speaker 3: You know, there are a couple of kids in this
Speaker 3: class that are high four star guys like Martellus Carter,
Speaker 3: who they talked very highly of today about being possibly
Speaker 3: an impact maker right away. There were some gems in
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty four class. I mean, Willie Rodriguez was awesome, cutter, bully,
Speaker 3: showed some things trying to think to Ryan Nichols, I
Speaker 3: thought played really well when he was healthy.
Speaker 2: So, you know, these.
Speaker 3: Freshmen signing classes aren't by any means meaningless but it's
Speaker 3: that I agree with the ability. It's lost its luster.
Speaker 3: And look, when exciting names that are already kind of
Speaker 3: household in college football like Dan Key are entering the
Speaker 3: portal every day for the next month, and you know
Speaker 3: all these schools have access to signing them, it's hard
Speaker 3: not to get excited. And it's how some of these
Speaker 3: programs like South Carolina and Vanderbilt were able to turn
Speaker 3: around and turn around their programs in short order.
Speaker 2: Was the portal not necessarily freshmen?
Speaker 4: Well, it was good to see that they did get
Speaker 4: a couple of guys on the offensive line. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: to help me develop a little bit, Aaron, give me
Speaker 4: a percentage chance that Kentucky retains their current offensive line
Speaker 4: coach this year.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's like ninety five to one hundred
Speaker 3: percent that Eric Wolter's knack.
Speaker 2: Wow, are you for this season? Yeah? For this coming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not leaving, He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: I Mean, I could be wrong, but I just think
Speaker 3: Mark Stoops genuinely thinks very highly of him as a recruiter.
Speaker 3: I think they genuinely got rid of the beef that
Speaker 3: was there from what Wolford did when he left for
Speaker 3: Alabama on her left for Kentucky on recruiting trip and
Speaker 3: finished that recruiting trip saying roll tide. So I think
Speaker 3: that's kind of water under the bridge, and he looked.
Speaker 3: I mean, Eric Wolford got you, Deon Walker and barry
Speaker 3: On Brown, so I get what Mark Stoups is thinking.
Speaker 3: And then you know, all these offensive linemen in this class,
Speaker 3: especially the kid from Michigan whose name is gaping me.
Speaker 3: He was the best one in the group. He was
Speaker 3: the primary guy on So yeah, he's a pretty good recruiter.
Speaker 1: But I'm not understanding Aaron.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was the worst offensive line in the
Speaker 4: SEC last year with Alabama, it was the worst offensive
Speaker 4: line in the nation this year with Kentucky, and.
Speaker 1: Seems to be doing the same.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't think Mark Stups is moving
Speaker 3: on for one year. I mean, Zach Yenzer twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: they were equally as bad, it's not worse as this
Speaker 3: offensive line, and he gave him a year two. And
Speaker 3: Yenzer was nothing on the recruiting trails, you know, no
Speaker 3: offense then personally, but he didn't do anything of substance
Speaker 3: on the recruiting trail because he was an NFL guy
Speaker 3: more so than a college guy and his coaching career,
Speaker 3: so I think, you know, he's what I think Mark
Speaker 3: Supe wants to get back to. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's the right answer or out. I just am calling.
Speaker 3: What I see is he wants to have his assistant
Speaker 3: coaches as recruiters first in some of these spots, not
Speaker 3: all of them, Like and mar Stewart is a really.
Speaker 2: Good position coach.
Speaker 3: He's an okay recruiter, but I really think at some
Speaker 3: of these positions, and I don't necessarily agree with it,
Speaker 3: he's putting recruiting first. We saw it with the Enzer,
Speaker 3: where it was more coaching first. It didn't work the
Speaker 3: way he wanted. He went back to a recruiting coach first.
Speaker 3: Chris Collins as dB coach is good at both. He
Speaker 3: lucked out with that one. But you know, safety coach
Speaker 3: for the final doesn't recruit much. He does a little bit,
Speaker 3: but not a ton, and he's a pretty good position
Speaker 3: coach from all accounts. So I just think he's trying
Speaker 3: to strike that balance, and he opted for a recruiting
Speaker 3: guy first in that role.
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I really can don't.
Speaker 2: I'm with it.
Speaker 1: Here, here's the question. Uh, you know, do you hold
Speaker 1: the cook responsible or the guy brought in the groceries?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Oh sure, that's that's the quest. Now,
Speaker 1: if if the old line coach had gone out and
Speaker 1: recruited these kids or had them more than one year,
Speaker 1: didn't just walk in here's your old line Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't recruit an him, hadn't developed any of him
Speaker 1: back in the spring or the year before. Just here
Speaker 1: they are make something out of him. But what I
Speaker 1: want to know is what happens when he's there more
Speaker 1: than a year and he developed the.
Speaker 4: Cook previously was employed and poisoned the food. I mean,
Speaker 4: and he's gone, he's already gotten his second shot.
Speaker 1: So and it didn't work again?
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 4: So Contnudy is great.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: And Bush Hampden's saying is going to be a big deal.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna helps the quarterback. But kN neudy
Speaker 4: doesn't guarantee success.
Speaker 1: No, but but no connuity guarantees no success. See what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I would disagree.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I'm kind of yeah, the Wolfford thing's tough
Speaker 3: for me, but I will look, it's like.
Speaker 2: You're right, like if he's.
Speaker 3: All going to be up to development at Alabama. You
Speaker 3: know last year the offensive line, your ability, they stunk
Speaker 3: in pass pro. They had I think they had at
Speaker 3: least one true freshman starter. But you know he didn't
Speaker 3: get that much better until this year when they had
Speaker 3: a new staff. So you know, the developing part with
Speaker 3: Wolford is in question because in twenty twenty one, when
Speaker 3: he was the offensive line coach, that might have been
Speaker 3: Kentucky's best old line of Mark Teups's tenure. But he
Speaker 3: inherited that entire room except for Darre Rosenthal. So it
Speaker 3: the jury is very much still out.
Speaker 2: On him as a developed, developing guy.
Speaker 3: But I do think, look, I don't know if he's
Speaker 3: the right guy or not, but I think you ought
Speaker 3: to give him one more year to get the continuity
Speaker 3: part is so important, especially with offensive line coach and
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. I mean, shoot, even twenty twenty two, they
Speaker 3: were both new. Every year twenty it's a different combo
Speaker 3: for this team. I don't even want to get how
Speaker 3: many years in a row they've had a different combo.
Speaker 3: So I think you give Wolford one more year and
Speaker 3: if it fails, well hopefully they just the whole staff
Speaker 3: has gone at the sales again next year. If we're
Speaker 3: being honest, but Wolford can't, I would even consider a
Speaker 3: mid season change if it's a Matt.
Speaker 1: I don't know line coach. Here's the one thing I
Speaker 1: think we all need to remember. We're kind of getting
Speaker 1: over our skis me you billy, We're all passing judgment
Speaker 1: on this guy. You know who thought he was a
Speaker 1: pretty good oline coach, or he wouldn't have hired Nick
Speaker 1: Saban knows a little bit about football. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: why I will benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: I'll give him a little I'll give him doubt.
Speaker 3: You've got to show me something up from you know, Hey,
Speaker 3: it's going to come down to the portal.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Get just didn't happen to work when he was with
Speaker 4: Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: No, but so Nick Saban was wrong, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: What about the players that he walked in on? Who
Speaker 1: did he have good players when he got there at Alabama?
Speaker 1: I had no idea me to do.
Speaker 3: I I mean, one of the kids he had on
Speaker 3: this team last year, Booker is going to be a
Speaker 3: first top ten pick in this draft and need a
Speaker 3: top ten pick in last year's draft. Like, it's not
Speaker 3: like he was a total mess.
Speaker 1: I wonder what Nick sawing him? All right? All right,
Speaker 1: when we come back with ship to basketball, since Aaron
Speaker 1: was on handed Clemson a little bit later on, Jeff
Speaker 1: ccorl was going to join us right here on the
Speaker 1: state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paduca. It is the
Speaker 1: big Blue Insider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Ruddlers, Aaron Gershawn joining
Speaker 1: us on the phone, and he has been home a
Speaker 1: little while now from Clemson. Your first trip to Little
Speaker 1: John Am I am? I right about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, first time in Clemson, cool town. Great.
Speaker 2: Ended up being a great environment.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, was like, it wasn't anything
Speaker 3: spectacular in the first half. I've definitely seen some tougher
Speaker 3: environments in the SEC. But it picked up big time
Speaker 3: in the second half when the Clemson sand Bay started
Speaker 3: to smell blood in the water. And you know, credit
Speaker 3: to the Kentucky fans that made the trip or in
Speaker 3: the area, there was a good contingency when they went
Speaker 3: on a run there at the end of the first half.
Speaker 3: I think it was nine to zero. The big Blue
Speaker 3: chance definitely broke out, and they were they were waiting
Speaker 3: to have their moment in the second half, and it
Speaker 3: didn't quite happen that way.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, you got one on me. I'd never
Speaker 1: been to Clemson. I've been to Greenville. I've been to
Speaker 1: Furman a couple of and once for football, once for
Speaker 1: base I.
Speaker 2: Drove by Freeman on the way homes of day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great campus. But I heard Mark Pope
Speaker 1: talking tonight and heard I stayed up late and listened
Speaker 1: to him talking to Tom Leech last night. Man, he
Speaker 1: was drained. I don't know about uh when he talked
Speaker 1: to you guys, and yeah, no doubt, but I got
Speaker 1: to think his team was drained too. That was a
Speaker 1: physical game, and in theory they they prepared for it, Aaron,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how you can actually get ready,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's a great quiver to have in
Speaker 1: your in your bag now because they know what it's
Speaker 1: gonna take to win a physical game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to be honest, the last three games
Speaker 3: have probably been the most physical they've played, but they
Speaker 3: just hadn't played the caliber of physicality that clums And
Speaker 3: provides just to to you know what WK and Georgia
Speaker 3: State are. And yeah, I mean, look that Ian Shefflin kid,
Speaker 3: who's only like six seven or six eight. He would
Speaker 3: have got twenty rebounds and yep, without a foul somehow.
Speaker 3: I mean, that kid was just a bully to them,
Speaker 3: especially in the first half. And I think he'd eleven
Speaker 3: at halftime, so you know, they really struggled on the
Speaker 3: glass in the first half. They got pushed around. You know,
Speaker 3: everyone's screaming about Kobe Brea not playing much well, and
Speaker 3: I agree to it a point where if you're trailing
Speaker 3: and you need offense, yeah, you give up the defense,
Speaker 3: I guess. But he couldn't guard anyone and then offensively,
Speaker 3: clumbs and ran him off the line all night. You know,
Speaker 3: the one open look was a really good play by
Speaker 3: him to get themself open. So they were running Kentucky
Speaker 3: off the three point line. There were still some open
Speaker 3: looks and Kentucky didn't make a lot of them, which
Speaker 3: is frustrating, but that's what you're gonna get when you
Speaker 3: played this brand of basketball. But yeah, Clemson physicality was
Speaker 3: on display. It was a very, very physical one. Kentucky
Speaker 3: I thought matched it in the second half. Obviously, they
Speaker 3: ended up I think breaking even in the rebound category,
Speaker 3: so that was good, but it took too long to adjust,
Speaker 3: and I think a matter of shots not falling, not
Speaker 3: just from three, the biggest thing. And I've been saying it,
Speaker 3: you know, really all year. They're not a very good
Speaker 3: free throw shooting team, and they got to get that
Speaker 3: cleaned up.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Eleven of eighteen you lose by four, so you make
Speaker 3: five of those and you win the game. So it's
Speaker 3: just there are some things that are preventable that they
Speaker 3: can clean up that also played into this loss. But
Speaker 3: you know, this was a good physical test for them,
Speaker 3: probably the most physical team they've played, even with Duke
Speaker 3: in there, with Duke being a little younger, and look,
Speaker 3: Gonzaga is more physical, faster, and better shooting than Clemson,
Speaker 3: so hopefully they'll be ready quick.
Speaker 4: It was a concerning game for KERKKRISA Aaron, do do
Speaker 4: you feel like Kentucky has a death problem?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I you know, we'll see if it becomes a trend,
Speaker 3: but it was definitely the starting lineup was much stronger
Speaker 3: than the reserves. There's no question. I thought the only
Speaker 3: guy who really gave you much of He didn't give
Speaker 3: you much offense. So I thought Ansley Aminar played okay
Speaker 3: off the bank. I didn't think he was too bad.
Speaker 3: But Brandon Garrison really struggled. And like you said, Kirk
Speaker 3: cries on both sides. Was it was a mess for
Speaker 3: him last night. You know, it just not his night
Speaker 3: at all. And look when Lamont Butler was infou trouble
Speaker 3: and then maybe a little hobbled in the second half,
Speaker 3: it was a mess. I think that what Butler finished
Speaker 3: with a plus seventeen, Carissa with a minus twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't get much more. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I've quite seen a big difference like that before
Speaker 3: between your starting and backup point guards. So that was
Speaker 3: concerning Brendon Garrison made Maybe it's the injury being rusty,
Speaker 3: hadn't played in a week. I don't know, but uh,
Speaker 3: he struggled a lot last night. I thought Amari Williams
Speaker 3: was great on the defensive end, but offensively, we all
Speaker 3: know there's some deficiencies there. So the two things like
Speaker 3: outside of you know, shots are going to fall. I
Speaker 3: think eventually, I think there's too much good shooting on
Speaker 3: the team. Hopefully they get the free throw shooting intact,
Speaker 3: and then the physicality. I think that'll come. The two
Speaker 3: issues I came away concerned with the death like you said, Billy,
Speaker 3: and then you know Kentucky. What they do, like Byu
Speaker 3: did it last year, is that center spot. They run
Speaker 3: them at the top, at the top of the key
Speaker 3: and they kind of run the ship and it's a
Speaker 3: read and react system. Last year at Byu Ali Khalifa
Speaker 3: who's now a Louisville he's red shirting with an injury.
Speaker 3: This year, he could shoot threes. He was like a
Speaker 3: thirty five thirty six percent three point shooter, so defenses
Speaker 3: had to come out and respect him. Where Amari Williams
Speaker 3: and Brendan Garrison they don't shoot threes at all. Brendan
Speaker 3: Garrison hasn't made one in his career and Omari's made
Speaker 3: like two or three, so there's no respect for them
Speaker 3: and allows defenses to sag off and maybe even go
Speaker 3: double team with Kobe Breo or just fill the gaps
Speaker 3: on the three point line. And that those are the
Speaker 3: two things I've come away concerned with with with these
Speaker 3: last couple of games.
Speaker 2: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Something that can be cleaned up, but they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to scheme around it.
Speaker 1: Got about a minute left. But I really believe and
Speaker 1: this is not why they lost, But I think it mattered.
Speaker 1: Butler gets into foul trouble and it hurts himself.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I think minus him, they're not quite the same team,
Speaker 1: are they.
Speaker 3: No? I think if Butler played what do I don't
Speaker 3: know what his final minute to twenty five. If he
Speaker 3: plays twenty five, ye, if he plays thirty three.
Speaker 2: They win that game.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 2: So that's how he was.
Speaker 3: Their best player on the team. He was there playing
Speaker 3: better than anyone on the entire court last night.
Speaker 2: No, I know it.
Speaker 3: Take Away might have been the leading scorer, but Lamont
Speaker 3: Butler was the best basketball player on either side last night,
Speaker 3: and not having him for fifteen minutes hurt And I
Speaker 3: was glad. Mark Pope said, I probably should have let
Speaker 3: him play through it.
Speaker 2: I think they probably wouldn't in the game if he
Speaker 2: did that. I only played nineteen or nineteen.
Speaker 3: I think nineteen, okay, So yeah, if he gets if
Speaker 3: you get through to like twenty eight, they probably win
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 2: Not sure where I got twenty I really think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no he was. He was not flustered, I thought
Speaker 1: at all. But then again, he's a guy who played
Speaker 1: the NCA champions. He did exactly right, and they all are.
Speaker 1: Do you look more like a fat You're right, all right, Aaron. Well,
Speaker 1: next time we get together there will be more news
Speaker 1: I'm sure about coming or going on football. You're not
Speaker 1: going to Seattle?
Speaker 2: I all right, I'm not going to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, we'll see you in here next
Speaker 1: week then, and hope all is well with your dog.
Speaker 1: Big day tomorrow for Barkley tomorrow. Yeah, good luck with
Speaker 1: your giants as well. Have a good one, all right?
Speaker 1: Talking about coming and going to New York Football Giants,
Speaker 1: that's Aaron's team. Jeah Pacorl's next here on the State
Speaker 1: Wide BBI. Welcome back to the Stay Wide, Big Blue
Speaker 1: Insider Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutlis join now on a celebrity
Speaker 1: hotline by mister Jeff Picoro, color analyst for the UK
Speaker 1: Basketball Network and sports director WTVQ. Before we get into
Speaker 1: the sports, Jeff, you are a man of mature years.
Speaker 1: I will say you're not old by any chance, but
Speaker 1: you're committed a relationship. So is Billy? So am I married?
Speaker 1: Billy just shared something with me seconds ago about a
Speaker 1: survey about first date So I guess this goes back
Speaker 1: to when people are in their younger years, but this
Speaker 1: one shocked me. Go ahead, Billy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: According to a recent survey by Dating News involving three
Speaker 4: thousand participants, Chick fil A is the number one preferred
Speaker 4: first date spot for American men, and then the follow
Speaker 4: up to that is sixty six percent of women agree
Speaker 4: that a first date at a fast food restaurant is acceptable.
Speaker 1: Jeff, how much money did we waste trying to impress
Speaker 1: women in our younger years?
Speaker 5: Just gonna say, where was I?
Speaker 1: Where were we going all the time?
Speaker 2: Change?
Speaker 1: I mean, I love me some burger king back in the.
Speaker 5: Day, but I mean the worst, I mean, first date,
Speaker 5: The worst you could possibly was like el teredo or
Speaker 5: chee cheese or something. Maybe Darryl's. Maybe Darryl. Darryl's was
Speaker 5: a great spot.
Speaker 1: My brother used to work at Darryl's.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 1: I dated worked at Darryl's. I couldn't have taken her there.
Speaker 5: I worked there with Sandra Burton.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah for me, they just announce che cheese is coming
Speaker 4: back too, is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the son of the owner, the original owners
Speaker 5: bringing it back.
Speaker 1: So admitted Billy, your your current squeeze your fiance, Did
Speaker 1: you ever think of taking her to a fast food
Speaker 1: place first date?
Speaker 4: No, but our first date was at a bowling alley,
Speaker 4: so it wasn't that crazy, not that far away from
Speaker 4: a fast food restaurant.
Speaker 1: But it's about but there's an activity there. There's fun,
Speaker 1: you know, there's wearing sweaty shoes at fifty other people.
Speaker 4: The worst thing you can do is go see a
Speaker 4: movie because then you're not talking, don't right.
Speaker 1: Or a comedy club, you know.
Speaker 5: You know, Dick, I thought Billy took me for a
Speaker 5: Taco Tico guy.
Speaker 4: We've gotten tacos, Jeff. We went on over to a
Speaker 4: gobby and Ryan not too long ago. Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: a good time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when Taco Tico was rolling and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, this taco bell rolls in.
Speaker 1: You're like what and now look at us? All right,
Speaker 1: well let us move back to sports, and Jeff, let's
Speaker 1: start and you and I already talked to the links
Speaker 1: with Tom Leach about signing day, but I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody else has signed since we chatted. But as Billy said,
Speaker 1: a lot of the luster, a lot of what was
Speaker 1: the word you use, becazzz Yeah. Remember, Jeff, you were
Speaker 1: part of these shows. I mean there used to be
Speaker 1: an army of people over UK. We had at least
Speaker 1: six or seven different anchors. You and Christy and Freddie
Speaker 1: Maggart and and me and Jeremy Jerman and yeah and
Speaker 1: Tom Lee you know, and and U case video people
Speaker 1: did it incredible. I mean that the cameras, the cabling,
Speaker 1: the lighting, it was phenomenal. Now, I was like, here's
Speaker 1: the release. Yeah, yeah, healthy, Yeah. But that's where we
Speaker 1: are now with recruiting, isn't it.
Speaker 5: I guess. I mean it's not as you know, I
Speaker 5: really think this wasn't the cause. But I really think
Speaker 5: that the portal, yes, taking so much away from this,
Speaker 5: you know, that is the cause.
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, you know, you've got, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier tonight, Jeff, okay, you've got this recruiting class,
Speaker 1: but now what you know, show me the portal. How
Speaker 1: many will be here in three years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well show me who's leaving and who's coming through that portal? Right?
Speaker 5: So in two weeks. We've got to have a portal party.
Speaker 1: Exactly, portal party, you know, why not? Uh, but you'll
Speaker 1: have a better grip on who you're going to play,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be playing next year?
Speaker 2: Right yep?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned earlier your your theory about Dane Key,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. Needs to go someplace where
Speaker 1: he can take I think the step that he made
Speaker 1: from year two to year three, he needs to at
Speaker 1: least match that or better at year three to year
Speaker 1: four in terms of his improvement looking at his professional future, right, yes, I.
Speaker 5: Just think he needs to be in a pro style offense.
Speaker 5: That's he's he's thinking, Okay, I've done all I could
Speaker 5: do here? Yeah, where can I go that I can
Speaker 5: possibility of catching fifty sixty seventy passes, you know, like
Speaker 5: you know it for billion the people out there. Dick
Speaker 5: knows this. We're at Texas and they had seven receivers
Speaker 5: with thirty or more catches, eight receivers with twenty five
Speaker 5: or more catches. I mean, that's crazy, but that's the
Speaker 5: way some of these offenses are these days. And I
Speaker 5: think he sees that and says, if I go to
Speaker 5: a place like that that wings the ball all over
Speaker 5: the place Tennessee, Texas, Missouri, and he catches seventy passes.
Speaker 5: Now he's got you know, now he's got that exclamation
Speaker 5: part exclamation mark on his on his resume.
Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, I think I believe
Speaker 4: you said earlier tonight that you weren't entirely sold on Cutter. Bowlie,
Speaker 4: what do you expect Kentucky does that quarterback this next year?
Speaker 4: Would you like them to bring in a transfer?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they have to. I mean they have
Speaker 5: to bring him in. Look, Gavin's not coming back and
Speaker 5: Brock is not coming back, So that means you got
Speaker 5: Cutter and you got two freshmen coming in. You have
Speaker 5: to have somebody there that has got some experience. You've
Speaker 5: got to bring in a junior or senior, somebody that
Speaker 5: started a bunch of games. I mean, there was two
Speaker 5: or three of them today that have that have announced.
Speaker 5: The kid from Southern cal It hits the Stanford quarterback.
Speaker 5: You know, all these quarterbacks are jumping in there. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying I'm not sold on Cutter. I think Cutter
Speaker 5: can be the future. I just think that I'd like
Speaker 5: to have a little more seasoning in my quarterback than
Speaker 5: a kid that's played a half of a game and
Speaker 5: a half of a game and got knocked out.
Speaker 1: You know, can you afford to do that, Jeff? I
Speaker 1: mean in this day and age.
Speaker 5: If you if you tell Cutter, well, I mean, I
Speaker 5: think the greatest example is arch Manning. I mean, that
Speaker 5: kid's making two three million dollars to sit on the
Speaker 5: bench and come in and what do you have three
Speaker 5: plays against Kentucky? You know, it's crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That was also a guy that was
Speaker 4: declining innil deals with NCAA football just because his family's loaded.
Speaker 4: I feel like a quarterback in the portal wants to
Speaker 4: know that he's starting, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that he's gonna at least have the opportunity
Speaker 5: to start. And that's all I'm saying. You're gonna have
Speaker 5: to bring a guy in and guess what best guy wins,
Speaker 5: that Cutter or the other guy. That's what they did
Speaker 5: at Georgia after what's his name left and you had
Speaker 5: Brock and you had the kid that's there now, and
Speaker 5: the best guy wins, yes, Bennett, Yeah, and he all
Speaker 5: he did was making in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Brock had plenty of lack of seasoning and
Speaker 4: playing time as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and well that's kind of what I'm getting at.
Speaker 5: And look what happened. That's all I mean, today's football
Speaker 5: here's and Billy, here's the point that I made. If
Speaker 5: if okay, Billy, I'm gonna ask you pointedly this question, Yeah,
Speaker 5: would you rather have twenty eighteen year old kids coming
Speaker 5: in or would you rather have twenty twenty one, twenty
Speaker 5: two to twenty three year old kids coming in? Probably
Speaker 5: there is a huge difference. Yeah, yeah, I mean when
Speaker 5: you were when you got to ninth grade, let's say, okay,
Speaker 5: and you were a golfer, right, yeah, and you maybe
Speaker 5: played for your high school golf team. There's a big
Speaker 5: difference between a ninth grader who's what fourteen years old
Speaker 5: and a senior who's eighteen years old. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 5: a huge difference. You know what. They hit the ball
Speaker 5: seventy five one hundred yards longer than you do. It's
Speaker 5: just that's just maturation in college football. If I can
Speaker 5: get a junior and a senior and another senior who
Speaker 5: are grab students, you know, that's which I mean. Look
Speaker 5: at the kid at Louisville he's a seventh year player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the seniors were also stubborn, and they were also
Speaker 4: worried about where they were going to college. They weren't
Speaker 4: worried about playing in their high school year. So there's
Speaker 4: pros and cons to both, but I completely agree. I mean,
Speaker 4: when you have you know, transfers and senior transfers, I mean,
Speaker 4: these are grown men compared to the seventeen eighteen year
Speaker 4: olds coming in on national signing team.
Speaker 5: And that's what I mean. Look, Tutter Bowley has If
Speaker 5: you look at his father, his dad's a big dude.
Speaker 5: I mean, he played basketball in college, but he's a
Speaker 5: big dude. He's filled out, he's mature. Tutter is still
Speaker 5: a kid. I'm not taking eything away from Hey. If
Speaker 5: he if he wins it out and it's the starter
Speaker 5: next year, great. I love the kid, I love his family.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying he's still got Brad White talks this
Speaker 5: all the time. He still has a kid body. He
Speaker 5: didn't have his man body yet. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me toss this out at you, Jeff. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to do it earlier tonight. We
Speaker 1: were trying to get to so much stuff, but and
Speaker 1: we have talked about this before. The revolving door that
Speaker 1: has been the Kentucky quarterback spot ever since Drew Barker
Speaker 1: went down by necessity, not by choice Juco's and it's
Speaker 1: worked to appoint Stephen Johnson Terry Wilson. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: wins over Tennessee Louisville at Florida Will Level owned U
Speaker 1: of L and he was a transfer, of course, but
Speaker 1: Barker was the guy who was going to be the
Speaker 1: man a quarterback, right He was going to take over
Speaker 1: as a sophomore because the calendar worked out that way,
Speaker 1: and he was going to be the guy who would
Speaker 1: be the Bill Ransdell or the Jared Lorenzen in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, being a starter and letting them develop some
Speaker 1: depth behind him. But he gets hurt and it didn't
Speaker 1: work out. I got to think that that they're looking
Speaker 1: to cut her bully the same way. He'll be our
Speaker 1: QB and he'll be a good one, and meanwhile we
Speaker 1: can develop death depth behind him. But can they do
Speaker 1: that if they go to another transfer or another Juco
Speaker 1: or whatever this coming season.
Speaker 5: Well, I think first thing, first, Dick, it doesn't matter
Speaker 5: at this point if there's a Fran Tarkington or a
Speaker 5: Johnny Manzil or Roger Stauback out there. You gotta find
Speaker 5: him because if the offensive lin't any better, they're just
Speaker 5: gonna be running for their lives back there. And most
Speaker 5: people don't know who Roger Straubark and Fran Tarkington are,
Speaker 5: but they know Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fox kids, those guys could run away from trouble,
Speaker 1: especially tarkingdon better than even Johnny Minkings. Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah yeah, and giants.
Speaker 5: But but but what I mean is, look, you've got
Speaker 5: to get a line. Okay, if you've got okay, let's
Speaker 5: look look at Texas for instance, if you had Texas's line,
Speaker 5: then you can have Cutter Bowley back there because he's
Speaker 5: not get touched.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I got you. Yeah.
Speaker 4: How would you take the temperature of Mark Stoops right now? Jeff,
Speaker 4: do you feel like he's he's back with energy and
Speaker 4: ready to prove people wrong or do you feel like
Speaker 4: that this could be like you know, two three years
Speaker 4: he's done coaching.
Speaker 5: I don't think he wants to go out this way.
Speaker 5: He wants to go out on top. He has a
Speaker 5: winner's mentality. He's a he's a you know, he's an athlete,
Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter how old you are, you want
Speaker 5: to win. He doesn't want to leave. He wants to
Speaker 5: leave on his own terms, you know, just like his
Speaker 5: brother did. He Bob wins the national championship. He said,
Speaker 5: you know what, I've had enough. Now I may all
Speaker 5: my bunny and I want to I want to enjoy life.
Speaker 5: Marks almost to that point. But he's not going to
Speaker 5: go out after a four to eight season, and uh,
Speaker 5: he deserves. Here's what people forget. He's done something that
Speaker 5: no other coach in the history of Kentucky football is done.
Speaker 5: And he's he's done it by more than more than
Speaker 5: twice as many bowl games in a row as anybody else.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And people dismiss that, Well, you can schedule
Speaker 1: a ball. How come only eight teams have done it?
Speaker 5: You know, Kentucky only three going into this year. Was
Speaker 5: only three teams in the confine Georgia, Kentucky and Tennessee,
Speaker 5: not Florida that you know, not South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Well, and I mentioned this earlier, Jeff that I'm Billy,
Speaker 1: that was a great question. But I do believe that
Speaker 1: the energy Stoops has has been tempered by the ni
Speaker 1: l and portal and you know, you talk about it,
Speaker 1: probably too much, but I think he was trying to
Speaker 1: shoot straight with people. Look, here's what we're up against.
Speaker 1: And you know, Kentucky does not have the deepest of
Speaker 1: pockets generally speaking, when it comes to the nil. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Joe Kraft. But Mark Stoops when he got into coaching,
Speaker 1: he wanted to recruit, evaluate and develop players, not be
Speaker 1: one of the highest bidders raise money exactly. And I
Speaker 1: can't blame him, you know. I mean, I think he
Speaker 1: loves being a football coach. And what coach out there says,
Speaker 1: give me some more of that, you know, I'll drop
Speaker 1: what I'm doing and go make some phone calls and
Speaker 1: help whoever is on my staff try to raise money.
Speaker 1: That's why guys are quitting. Everybody you know knows that.
Speaker 1: But not everybody's a Nick Saban, Not everybody's a Jay
Speaker 1: Wright Stoops' brother. You're right, Jeff, he got out with
Speaker 1: his national title. I'd be willing to bet that Mark's
Speaker 1: made more money than he yes, because when Rob got out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so does that makes sense?
Speaker 5: Yeah? But you know, and Dick, you know this, I
Speaker 5: think you look at Okay, look at Louisville and what
Speaker 5: they've done there. I mean, Jeff brom is the COO
Speaker 5: of Louisville football. Brian brom is the head coach of
Speaker 5: that football team. He runs practice, he calls the plays,
Speaker 5: he does everything. Jeff is the overseer. Mark is still
Speaker 5: trying to do basically both jobs, you know, and that's
Speaker 5: hard to do nowadays. I mean, now you're seeing most
Speaker 5: of the college football teams around the country, especially the
Speaker 5: big ones, are bringing in what they what they're calling
Speaker 5: him general manager to help alleviate just what Mark's talking
Speaker 5: about nil portal. They are these general managers, and some
Speaker 5: schools are paying seven figures and upwards of these general
Speaker 5: managers uh to come in and basically set up to
Speaker 5: set the team up. So you've got, as you said,
Speaker 5: what they say, three hundred offensive lineman they went through
Speaker 5: last year, Yeah, to find the ones that they was Yeah.
Speaker 5: So now this general manager does that so Mark doesn't
Speaker 5: have to. Maybe it's a guy like Eddie Grant someone
Speaker 5: like that. Yeah, but these teams are moving to that
Speaker 5: because you basically you've got to have a guy to
Speaker 5: figure out payroll. You've got to have a guy to
Speaker 5: figure out your because you've got eighty five basically, and
Speaker 5: pretty soon it's gonna be one hundred and five free agents.
Speaker 1: Jeff, let me shift it a Let me shifted a
Speaker 1: basketball in the time we have remaining, because you have
Speaker 1: to pay attention to that as well in your day job.
Speaker 1: But what did we learn about this Kentucky team last night?
Speaker 5: Whether shots don't fall, it's hard. I mean, you've got
Speaker 5: to shoot better than what was it sixty four percent
Speaker 5: for the free throw line, sixty one sixty for the
Speaker 5: free line. I mean, you you hit five more free throws,
Speaker 5: you win the game, right, six more free throws you
Speaker 5: win the game. I know was seventy seventy sixty six?
Speaker 5: Five more free throws you win. I just thought that
Speaker 5: right from the start. I'm losing my mind. Big guy
Speaker 5: for Kentucky whim he could hit a shoot, he couldn't buy one.
Speaker 5: Andrew car could not Andrew Carr put Andrew Carr. He
Speaker 5: could not buy a shot. I mean easy shots that
Speaker 5: he makes all the time. And then and then he
Speaker 5: went to the free throw line, missed his first two
Speaker 5: free throws. I said, oh, he's he's off tonight. But
Speaker 5: you know they get bullied around a little bit. But
Speaker 5: I think that's the way a lot of teams are
Speaker 5: going to try to play them, because you know, you're
Speaker 5: going to try to bounce them off that three point
Speaker 5: line and force them to go inside. And uh, you know,
Speaker 5: Kentucky will change, They'll get it. It's like, look, nobody's
Speaker 5: gonna go out to see and everybody knows that this
Speaker 5: is a pretty good Clemson basketball team. They went to
Speaker 5: the Elite eight. You know they're pretty good. I think
Speaker 5: that you people are going to try to come at
Speaker 5: Kentucky with that lunch pail mentality now kind of you know,
Speaker 5: we're going to try to make it an atn alley
Speaker 5: an alley fight.
Speaker 4: Uh well, Kentucky is everybody super Bowl. And it was
Speaker 4: interesting to hear Mark Pope say that because it sounded
Speaker 4: eerily similar to the old coach. But I saw one
Speaker 4: of the strangest things I've seen in a basketball game
Speaker 4: in that game, Jeff, when Clemson stormed the court, they
Speaker 4: turned all the lights off. So you gotta think that's
Speaker 4: not this brightest idea. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunt until the one thing.
Speaker 5: The one thing I did like is they they ran
Speaker 5: about ten security people right in front of Kentucky's bench. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so the fans couldn't get to the Kentucky bench. And
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, I think they had like a
Speaker 5: rope that they were holding too. And then Kentucky walked
Speaker 5: the entire length of the floor around everybody out, which
Speaker 5: I thought was a very good idea. Yeah this, well,
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. The one thing that I hate sports,
Speaker 5: and it's really getting out of hand in football is
Speaker 5: this is storming the field and then let's plan a fly?
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hate that? What is the deal with that? Ridiculous? And
Speaker 1: I know, well, if you don't want him to do
Speaker 1: it on your flat, on your field, then beat him.
Speaker 1: No that's no, No, that's rue.
Speaker 5: Sarkashian did it perfectly. He ran. He saw his guys
Speaker 5: who went out to the Texas A and M fifty
Speaker 5: yard line to get pictures and he said, no, we
Speaker 5: don't do get get let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 5: And everybody's killing Ryan Ryan day because all he did
Speaker 5: was stand there and watch and going woods that happening.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?
Speaker 5: I think he was stunned. I think that he was
Speaker 5: absolutely stunned at what happened. They were a twenty point favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and this may be the worst Michigan team to beat ranked.
Speaker 5: They won forty seven straight games to get sent unranked
Speaker 5: opponent Michigan wasn't ranked. Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, Bill Curry couldn't beat Auburn and who was there
Speaker 1: was Ohio State coach? Couldn't be Michigan had a great
Speaker 1: record otherwise, Earl Bruce. That's it. That's it, yeah, Jeff Row,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time as always, nice sharing the airwaves
Speaker 1: with you tonight. Have a good one, thanks, Jeff. All Right,
Speaker 1: we'll step out you back and wrap up this evening
Speaker 1: of sports talk radio. It's been a long one, but
Speaker 1: a good one here on the state Wide BBI as
Speaker 1: we wrap up this edition of the Big Blue Insider,
Speaker 1: the state wide version, of course, we thank you for
Speaker 1: hanging in there because it's been a long night. But
Speaker 1: it was kind of cool having the back to back shows.
Speaker 1: I realized Mark Stoops was not here tonight, but it
Speaker 1: was fun talking football but Tom and Jeff, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure it's exactly what folks wanted to hear, but
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is back at work and I think has
Speaker 1: tried to say the right things of Late Billy. But man,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, I remember when our
Speaker 1: friend Freddie Man used to describe what signing day was
Speaker 1: like for him. He had every possible screen in his
Speaker 1: man cave working. He had multiple TVs and an iPad
Speaker 1: and a computer and and just you know, and he's
Speaker 1: not the only one, you know, with information pouring in
Speaker 1: and that way fans could plot and plan the future
Speaker 1: of their team. And now it's the portal, and now
Speaker 1: it's who is.
Speaker 4: Now it's like half of that class may not even
Speaker 4: make it to their sophomore junior year, which is just like,
Speaker 4: how can I get invested in those guys if they're
Speaker 4: not going to play. Before it was like, you know,
Speaker 4: if they left, they had to sit out a year,
Speaker 4: you really set back your progression and all that. So
Speaker 4: and even before that, it was the fax machine, right yep.
Speaker 4: You would just watch a fact.
Speaker 1: The huge show that we used to do over on
Speaker 1: campus with all those anchors and cameras and lights. You
Speaker 1: know that started They called me one day and said,
Speaker 1: would you come on signing Day and be on the internet,
Speaker 1: just sit there on camera and announce who we saw.
Speaker 1: I said, sure, that's it. So I'd sit down and
Speaker 1: when there was nothing going on, I get up and
Speaker 1: walk around. If anybody tuned in on the internet, there's
Speaker 1: an empty chair. And when there was a signing, I'd
Speaker 1: sit down and say, okay, here's the latest, and then
Speaker 1: they'd show him putting the name up on a wall.
Speaker 1: And that was it, and that evolved into this huge
Speaker 1: show and now we're back. We're back to the piece
Speaker 1: of empty chair exactly. You don't even get to see
Speaker 1: the empty chair. So anyway, it's all out there. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining us, Thanks to Aaron, Billy and Jeff.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Good night from Lexingdon