WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplexus is 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:06.759 Dick Gabriel. This is the statewide edition of the Big 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.039 Blue Insider. Better late than ever. We had the Double 4 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:13.480 Coaches Show, the Double Header tonight plus BBN Radio. So 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:16.160 now we're here to talk to you along with Billy 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:19.320 Rudglans Aeron Gershan, Jep Picoryl. It's all coming your way 7 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.239 here on the state wide BBI Border to border. It 8 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.719 is the Big Blues Sider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Rudlich here 9 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:27.960 in the studio, Eron Gershan joining us by phone. Aaron, 10 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.839 let's start with the most recent news, and that of 11 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.000 course is signing day. And of course now it's to 12 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.000 take the bitter with the better kind of thing, because 13 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.840 you talk about brand new Wildcats, although they're a little 14 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.960 bit of an abstract, because of course there are names 15 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.200 on a list right now, some will enroll early, but 16 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:51.359 also news of Wildcats leaving through the portal and Jeppiicor 17 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.119 and I on with Tom Leach earlier tonight filling in 18 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.759 for Mark Stoops as it were, and Jeff pointed out, 19 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.079 and I agree with him, Kentucky has lost players from 20 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.599 the football team through the portal so far over the 21 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.280 last few years. But I think Dane Key is the 22 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.159 biggest loss through the portal, and I take it. 23 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.400 You agree, Yeah, absolutely, I agree. 24 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.439 You're talking about the guy that is fifth in program 25 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.760 history and receiving yards. I mean, and did that in 26 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:21.439 three years. 27 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:22.840 So absolutely. 28 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.079 I mean, i'd honestly say you've seen two of the 29 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.760 three biggest ones in this cycle. Keishawn Silver is a 30 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.000 guy who had a really nice season. It's not talked 31 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.719 about because the team stunk, but that was a guy 32 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.239 who I thought got a lot better in his second 33 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.640 year at Kentucky. Was a former five star recruit and 34 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:40.920 you can't teach his size. He's gonna go out and 35 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.920 get paid in that portal ahead of his last college season. 36 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.280 So I think between Silver and Key keeping the top 37 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:50.239 one for sure, and then Justin Rodgers a couple of 38 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:52.879 years ago, which wasn't mutual parting the ways, but just 39 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.799 the fact it was a key starter there. Those are 40 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.840 probably the three biggest portal losses they've had, and Dan 41 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.040 Key definitely tops the I can't say, you know, when 42 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:05.239 you go four and eight, it's nothing should be a surprise, 43 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.000 and you know, Mark Stuke's kind of alluded it wasn't 44 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.240 there in person, was still making the drive back from Clemson, 45 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.159 but I heard him talk about, Hey, you know, there 46 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:14.000 are gonna be some surprises, don't panic. 47 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.360 And I was, you know, assuming it was going to 48 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:16.919 be one like that. 49 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:21.120 So it's unfortunate Lexington kid, his father obviously played here. 50 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.080 You have to wonder exactly what went on behind the scenes, 51 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.159 maybe to kel Schwartz getting pried away, who knows what 52 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.719 it was exactly, or maybe it was just the poor 53 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:33.599 results and the lack of continuity. There's probably a million 54 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.520 different things, but you know, losing dan Key at the 55 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.319 very least. You know, when you put all those things together, 56 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.800 it's a tough pr hit for a team that's taken 57 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:42.639 a lot of hits right now. 58 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.159 Well, of course he needs to take a big step 59 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:49.400 in his development this coming season, and I with all 60 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.039 due respect to the kids coming back, I don't know 61 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.520 that he'll get a chance to do that here at 62 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.560 Kentucky with once again an ole line that is rebuilt. 63 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.560 I would guess, Aaron, we may not know the names 64 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.919 of at least three starters coming up this year the 65 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.719 next season for the football Cats. We're pretty certain it'll 66 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:12.080 be cutter Buwllie. But you know, how much better could 67 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.560 he get? What kind of relationship can he build with 68 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.840 Dane Key behind a rebuild line. So if he needs, 69 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:24.039 you know, camer ready turnkey kind of offense to make 70 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:28.000 that last step of improvement toward the NFL, he probably 71 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.960 I hate to say it because I love watching him play, 72 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.039 he probably does need to move on. 73 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.879 I can't disagree with that. I think it's probably you know, 74 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.919 it's definitely best for him. You look at the situation 75 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.599 next year, the quarterback situation, like you said, is gonna 76 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.360 be cutter Bowllie. Mark Stup said today they probably do 77 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.560 need to go out of transfer. We all, it's not 78 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:49.719 officially yet, but we know Brock Vandergrift's going to be 79 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.240 moving on. We'll see what Gavin Winstat wants to do. 80 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.439 I think that's more a guy you want as your 81 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.120 second string if he's coming back, and then you're bringing 82 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.800 into true freshman quarterbacks who aren't going to start next year. 83 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:03.479 So uh yeah, the questions that quarterback now, it would 84 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:06.439 be for him what third wide receiver coaching four years? 85 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:08.840 He had Witty for two years, so that's a lot 86 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.560 and third three offense coordinators in four years. Uh, you 87 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.080 know going up front. I know doesn't coach him directly, 88 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.079 but offensive line coach. Ching's just why not go to 89 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:21.079 a more stable environment for your last college season when 90 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.680 it's you, it's your league year. He's a guy that 91 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.279 has NFL talent. He the way he worked on his body. 92 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.160 You know, I've seen a lot of stuff on social 93 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:30.759 media calling. 94 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:31.639 Him Medieva and all this. 95 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.759 You're talking about the wrong receiver in that room. 96 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.639 Not going to name names, but you're not. Dan Key 97 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:38.560 is not a diva. 98 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.879 Did he have some stupid penalties, both being against Vanderbilt, Sure, 99 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.319 but Deion Walker had some stupid penalties in his time here. 100 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.480 Josh Allen had a stupid penalty. I remember at his 101 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.759 time here, great players, mcdumb mistakes. 102 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:53.439 That kid worked his butt off. 103 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.519 You see it in the way he improved his body. 104 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:59.160 He looked more of the part this year. It played 105 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:00.720 into I mean, I think heil in one or two 106 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:04.240 drops Hall season. That's not the guy. So you know, 107 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.839 wherever he goes, hopefully it's a stable environment and he 108 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:07.160 has a. 109 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:08.480 Strong ear and he goes and gets paid. 110 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.600 Yeah, and you know the big surprise to me today, 111 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:16.040 even more than than Dan Key leaving, was was Shorts leaving, 112 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.639 you know, and Mark Stoops at his news and again 113 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.480 you were traveling, but in his news he made it 114 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:26.959 clear that that caught him off guard. And honestly, Aaron, 115 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.279 I thought that was such a great hire. I thought 116 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.839 Stoops did a terrific job too, And in identifying this 117 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.360 guy bringing him on, I thought he did a great job. 118 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.839 The kids clearly responded to him, and boom, he's gone 119 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.720 now and had to pay her. Nebraska or whoever he's 120 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:44.319 gonna have to pay a lot of money to get him. 121 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.600 Yeah, five hundred thousand dollars file. And but you know, 122 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.680 at the same time that one came on to my radars, 123 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.680 it's Dana Holgerson. And Dana Holgerson is who Dekel Shorts 124 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.040 played for West Virginia and he got him starting coaching 125 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.959 both at West Virginia and Houston. So you know, it's 126 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.000 a large buyout, but Nebraska has the financial power to 127 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.040 do it, and you know, Schwortz probably feels more comfortable 128 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.399 with Holgerson than compared to what you know, he had 129 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:13.720 to deal with in his first year here. 130 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.800 I mean, it wasn't easy. I'm sure for him either. 131 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:19.600 You go look at the offenses he's been in and coached, 132 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.720 they're all top passing offenses. At Houston, they were a 133 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.000 top ten passing unit. 134 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:24.800 In two of his years there. 135 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.839 So here you're talking about a bottom ten passing unit 136 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.519 and wide receivers are gonna leave. You know, you lost 137 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.519 Dame Key already. Barry On Brown will see what happens. 138 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.319 Wouldn't be surprised if we hear something on him soon. 139 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.199 Jamary Macklin sounds like it's about fifty to fifty right 140 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.439 now what he wants to do, So you know you'd 141 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.759 be going through a rebuild in that room. Just it 142 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.519 makes sense for him and it stinks for Kentucky. They're 143 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.480 gonna have to you know, this is gonna be his 144 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:50.480 seventh wide. 145 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.240 Receiver coach in thirteen years. That's to have a curzy number. 146 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:54.319 Yeah. 147 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.720 Yeah, we're striving for continuity nowadays with offensive coordinators and 148 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:02.199 wide receiver coaches and like flies. But I expected some 149 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.800 change here. I mean they needed to have some change 150 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.560 with this football program to get back to leadership and 151 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.959 discipline some of the things that Macklin talked about in 152 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.160 his press conference. I just don't know how to judge 153 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.600 National Signing Day anymore. And it's it's. 154 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:18.399 Not really the same. 155 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.519 I mean, we've only got eight, nine, ten guys, and 156 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:23.959 then you're kind of waiting on the transfer portal to 157 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.800 be your starters while these guys are you just maybe 158 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.680 hope that they stay with the school. It's really taken 159 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.480 the pizazz out of this day and we're kind of 160 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.600 just waiting to see, you know what, guy leaves his 161 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:38.120 team to try to find playing time. 162 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.920 You know, yeah, yeah, you're totally right. Look, that's why 163 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.040 I think I do like to change to the front 164 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.079 of the month to try to give these kids some shine. 165 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.959 But yeah, everyone's worried about the portals. I mean, that's 166 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.959 just the nature of the beast. It's basically a free agency. 167 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.759 And you know, Vince merrilicks to call this the NFL draft, 168 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.959 but it's not. It's not like they're picking players of 169 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.319 the day of and you know, maybe we'll get this 170 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:00.920 five star with this tick. That's not how it works. 171 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.160 You know, this is kind of like a second it's 172 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.839 kind of like a amateur free agency, if you will. 173 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.240 So you know, it's thanks for the freshman involved, I think, 174 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:12.000 But you're right. I mean, none of these kids are guaranteed. 175 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.399 Look at their twenty twenty three high school class. They 176 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.160 were talking two years ago that they signed. They signed 177 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.079 in December twenty two with I forget who I think 178 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:25.439 Javonne Brown and Tommy Zismeier both hit the portal today. 179 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.560 They signed nineteen kids. 180 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:29.759 I believe it's either seven or eight I have now 181 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:30.600 left the program. 182 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.159 I mean, so you're talking about almost fifty percent of. 183 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.159 That class and who knows what. 184 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.200 You know, The twenty twenty four class was one they 185 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.279 really like. I'm sure they're gonna lose some reserves from 186 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.960 that class in the next two days here too, So there. 187 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:45.879 Is a lot of unknown. 188 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:47.679 You know, there are a couple of kids in this 189 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.080 class that are high four star guys like Martellus Carter, 190 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.360 who they talked very highly of today about being possibly 191 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.679 an impact maker right away. There were some gems in 192 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.960 that twenty twenty four class. I mean, Willie Rodriguez was awesome, cutter, bully, 193 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.080 showed some things trying to think to Ryan Nichols, I 194 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.000 thought played really well when he was healthy. 195 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.240 So, you know, these. 196 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.159 Freshmen signing classes aren't by any means meaningless but it's 197 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.039 that I agree with the ability. It's lost its luster. 198 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.720 And look, when exciting names that are already kind of 199 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.360 household in college football like Dan Key are entering the 200 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.559 portal every day for the next month, and you know 201 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.679 all these schools have access to signing them, it's hard 202 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.759 not to get excited. And it's how some of these 203 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.759 programs like South Carolina and Vanderbilt were able to turn 204 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:34.679 around and turn around their programs in short order. 205 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.440 Was the portal not necessarily freshmen? 206 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:38.320 Well, it was good to see that they did get 207 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.559 a couple of guys on the offensive line. Yeah, So 208 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.360 to help me develop a little bit, Aaron, give me 209 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:47.919 a percentage chance that Kentucky retains their current offensive line 210 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:48.679 coach this year. 211 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.080 Oh, I think it's like ninety five to one hundred 212 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:55.320 percent that Eric Wolter's knack. 213 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.960 Wow, are you for this season? Yeah? For this coming. Yeah, 214 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:00.960 he's not leaving, He's not going anywhere. 215 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.960 I Mean, I could be wrong, but I just think 216 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.879 Mark Stoops genuinely thinks very highly of him as a recruiter. 217 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.320 I think they genuinely got rid of the beef that 218 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.799 was there from what Wolford did when he left for 219 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.759 Alabama on her left for Kentucky on recruiting trip and 220 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.960 finished that recruiting trip saying roll tide. So I think 221 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.720 that's kind of water under the bridge, and he looked. 222 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.480 I mean, Eric Wolford got you, Deon Walker and barry 223 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.720 On Brown, so I get what Mark Stoups is thinking. 224 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.360 And then you know, all these offensive linemen in this class, 225 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.360 especially the kid from Michigan whose name is gaping me. 226 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.519 He was the best one in the group. He was 227 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.120 the primary guy on So yeah, he's a pretty good recruiter. 228 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.440 But I'm not understanding Aaron. 229 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.679 I mean, it was the worst offensive line in the 230 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:48.240 SEC last year with Alabama, it was the worst offensive 231 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.559 line in the nation this year with Kentucky, and. 232 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:53.919 Seems to be doing the same. 233 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:56.879 I don't disagree with you. 234 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.759 I'm just saying I don't think Mark Stups is moving 235 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.440 on for one year. I mean, Zach Yenzer twenty twenty two, 236 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:04.440 they were equally as bad, it's not worse as this 237 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:06.799 offensive line, and he gave him a year two. And 238 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.039 Yenzer was nothing on the recruiting trails, you know, no 239 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.799 offense then personally, but he didn't do anything of substance 240 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.679 on the recruiting trail because he was an NFL guy 241 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:16.679 more so than a college guy and his coaching career, 242 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.360 so I think, you know, he's what I think Mark 243 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.200 Supe wants to get back to. And I don't know 244 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.919 if it's the right answer or out. I just am calling. 245 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.080 What I see is he wants to have his assistant 246 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.519 coaches as recruiters first in some of these spots, not 247 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.879 all of them, Like and mar Stewart is a really. 248 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:35.559 Good position coach. 249 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:40.200 He's an okay recruiter, but I really think at some 250 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.559 of these positions, and I don't necessarily agree with it, 251 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:47.960 he's putting recruiting first. We saw it with the Enzer, 252 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.799 where it was more coaching first. It didn't work the 253 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.360 way he wanted. He went back to a recruiting coach first. 254 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.000 Chris Collins as dB coach is good at both. He 255 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.759 lucked out with that one. But you know, safety coach 256 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.200 for the final doesn't recruit much. He does a little bit, 257 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.759 but not a ton, and he's a pretty good position 258 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.399 coach from all accounts. So I just think he's trying 259 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.559 to strike that balance, and he opted for a recruiting 260 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:10.679 guy first in that role. 261 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:11.639 That's unbelievable. 262 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:13.039 I really can don't. 263 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:14.399 I'm with it. 264 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.960 Here, here's the question. Uh, you know, do you hold 265 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.720 the cook responsible or the guy brought in the groceries? 266 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:26.639 You know what I'm saying? Oh sure, that's that's the quest. Now, 267 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.039 if if the old line coach had gone out and 268 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.039 recruited these kids or had them more than one year, 269 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.159 didn't just walk in here's your old line Okay, I mean, 270 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.240 he didn't recruit an him, hadn't developed any of him 271 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:43.320 back in the spring or the year before. Just here 272 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:45.840 they are make something out of him. But what I 273 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:49.639 want to know is what happens when he's there more 274 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.159 than a year and he developed the. 275 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.039 Cook previously was employed and poisoned the food. I mean, 276 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.440 and he's gone, he's already gotten his second shot. 277 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:00.399 So and it didn't work again? 278 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:00.639 Yea. 279 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:02.440 So Contnudy is great. 280 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:03.039 I get it. 281 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.320 And Bush Hampden's saying is going to be a big deal. 282 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.559 I think it's gonna helps the quarterback. But kN neudy 283 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.360 doesn't guarantee success. 284 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:14.320 No, but but no connuity guarantees no success. See what 285 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.440 I'm saying. I would disagree. 286 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:21.519 Really, yeah, I'm kind of yeah, the Wolfford thing's tough 287 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.960 for me, but I will look, it's like. 288 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.399 You're right, like if he's. 289 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.440 All going to be up to development at Alabama. You 290 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:32.279 know last year the offensive line, your ability, they stunk 291 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.559 in pass pro. They had I think they had at 292 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.879 least one true freshman starter. But you know he didn't 293 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.240 get that much better until this year when they had 294 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.879 a new staff. So you know, the developing part with 295 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.360 Wolford is in question because in twenty twenty one, when 296 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.360 he was the offensive line coach, that might have been 297 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.639 Kentucky's best old line of Mark Teups's tenure. But he 298 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.320 inherited that entire room except for Darre Rosenthal. So it 299 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.200 the jury is very much still out. 300 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.200 On him as a developed, developing guy. 301 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.399 But I do think, look, I don't know if he's 302 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.879 the right guy or not, but I think you ought 303 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.360 to give him one more year to get the continuity 304 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.240 part is so important, especially with offensive line coach and 305 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.159 offensive coordinator. I mean, shoot, even twenty twenty two, they 306 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.639 were both new. Every year twenty it's a different combo 307 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.840 for this team. I don't even want to get how 308 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.559 many years in a row they've had a different combo. 309 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.000 So I think you give Wolford one more year and 310 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.919 if it fails, well hopefully they just the whole staff 311 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:29.799 has gone at the sales again next year. If we're 312 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:34.039 being honest, but Wolford can't, I would even consider a 313 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:35.639 mid season change if it's a Matt. 314 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.759 I don't know line coach. Here's the one thing I 315 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.000 think we all need to remember. We're kind of getting 316 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.960 over our skis me you billy, We're all passing judgment 317 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:48.679 on this guy. You know who thought he was a 318 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.600 pretty good oline coach, or he wouldn't have hired Nick 319 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.759 Saban knows a little bit about football. Yeah, so that's 320 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.360 why I will benefit of the doubt. 321 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:00.720 I'll give him a little I'll give him doubt. 322 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.840 You've got to show me something up from you know, Hey, 323 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.080 it's going to come down to the portal. 324 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:06.399 That's right. 325 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.279 Get just didn't happen to work when he was with 326 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:09.879 Nick Saban. 327 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.120 No, but so Nick Saban was wrong, Yeah he was. 328 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.159 What about the players that he walked in on? Who 329 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.759 did he have good players when he got there at Alabama? 330 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:21.159 I had no idea me to do. 331 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.480 I I mean, one of the kids he had on 332 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.480 this team last year, Booker is going to be a 333 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.320 first top ten pick in this draft and need a 334 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:29.240 top ten pick in last year's draft. Like, it's not 335 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:30.720 like he was a total mess. 336 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.960 I wonder what Nick sawing him? All right? All right, 337 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:35.240 when we come back with ship to basketball, since Aaron 338 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.159 was on handed Clemson a little bit later on, Jeff 339 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.600 ccorl was going to join us right here on the 340 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.080 state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paduca. It is the 341 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.919 big Blue Insider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Ruddlers, Aaron Gershawn joining 342 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.399 us on the phone, and he has been home a 343 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:52.799 little while now from Clemson. Your first trip to Little 344 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:54.360 John Am I am? I right about that? 345 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.480 Yeah, first time in Clemson, cool town. Great. 346 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.240 Ended up being a great environment. 347 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.240 To be honest with you, was like, it wasn't anything 348 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.399 spectacular in the first half. I've definitely seen some tougher 349 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:09.399 environments in the SEC. But it picked up big time 350 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.480 in the second half when the Clemson sand Bay started 351 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.600 to smell blood in the water. And you know, credit 352 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.840 to the Kentucky fans that made the trip or in 353 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.720 the area, there was a good contingency when they went 354 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:20.240 on a run there at the end of the first half. 355 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.360 I think it was nine to zero. The big Blue 356 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.600 chance definitely broke out, and they were they were waiting 357 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.679 to have their moment in the second half, and it 358 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:29.080 didn't quite happen that way. 359 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.080 Now, you know, you got one on me. I'd never 360 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.080 been to Clemson. I've been to Greenville. I've been to 361 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.519 Furman a couple of and once for football, once for 362 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:36.039 base I. 363 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.480 Drove by Freeman on the way homes of day. 364 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.720 Yeah, that's a great campus. But I heard Mark Pope 365 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:44.159 talking tonight and heard I stayed up late and listened 366 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.600 to him talking to Tom Leech last night. Man, he 367 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.080 was drained. I don't know about uh when he talked 368 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:53.399 to you guys, and yeah, no doubt, but I got 369 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:55.000 to think his team was drained too. That was a 370 00:16:55.000 --> 00:17:00.480 physical game, and in theory they they prepared for it, Aaron, 371 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:02.919 but I don't know how you can actually get ready, 372 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.079 you know. And it's a great quiver to have in 373 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.559 your in your bag now because they know what it's 374 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.039 gonna take to win a physical game. 375 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.200 Yeah, I mean to be honest, the last three games 376 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.279 have probably been the most physical they've played, but they 377 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.000 just hadn't played the caliber of physicality that clums And 378 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.759 provides just to to you know what WK and Georgia 379 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.200 State are. And yeah, I mean, look that Ian Shefflin kid, 380 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.720 who's only like six seven or six eight. He would 381 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.799 have got twenty rebounds and yep, without a foul somehow. 382 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.640 I mean, that kid was just a bully to them, 383 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:35.839 especially in the first half. And I think he'd eleven 384 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.079 at halftime, so you know, they really struggled on the 385 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.880 glass in the first half. They got pushed around. You know, 386 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.759 everyone's screaming about Kobe Brea not playing much well, and 387 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.400 I agree to it a point where if you're trailing 388 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.440 and you need offense, yeah, you give up the defense, 389 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:54.119 I guess. But he couldn't guard anyone and then offensively, 390 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.759 clumbs and ran him off the line all night. You know, 391 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.000 the one open look was a really good play by 392 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.680 him to get themself open. So they were running Kentucky 393 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.680 off the three point line. There were still some open 394 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.519 looks and Kentucky didn't make a lot of them, which 395 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:09.720 is frustrating, but that's what you're gonna get when you 396 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:14.000 played this brand of basketball. But yeah, Clemson physicality was 397 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:18.319 on display. It was a very, very physical one. Kentucky 398 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:20.920 I thought matched it in the second half. Obviously, they 399 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:23.880 ended up I think breaking even in the rebound category, 400 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.960 so that was good, but it took too long to adjust, 401 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.920