Speaker 1: We're gonna hopskive jump over to the whipcrack in Indiana
Jones universe. I got a C plus tier rumor for you,
Dylan Musk in the Indie Realm. Well, I guess it's
It is the Indie Realm, and it's about a full
reboot for Indiana Jones in the next few years. Full reboot,
so I imagine, would be starting in the beginning, not
necessarily because of the original films from the seventies. It
didn't really start with the origin. It was just Indiana Adventure,
and then later on we get a little bit more
filling in the cracks of his story. But yeah, no,
full full reboot, so new casting, new adventures, and I
love Indiana Jones. I'm not like super knowledgeable in the
sense of like if there's a lot of stories through
the books, because I know there is is material they
source from the books in order to tell those those tales.
I don't know if there's like many more that we
could just pull from. I'm just I'm not privy to that.
Speaker 2: No, there's also a bunch of games like back in
the day, like Lucas Arts games that were just like
different stories than the movies, as well, so there's definitely
a lot of potential out there for like things that
have been in the indie world but haven't appeared in
like a movie.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, so there's there's a
lot of just adventuring that we can kind of go on.
But right off the hob just by that statement, what
do you feel about this? Are you down?
Speaker 2: Is it too soon?
Speaker 1: You know that the recent indie didn't sell, definitely underperformed
for what it could have been. I feel like we're
it's been a while since I've really just been blown
away by an Indiana Jones movie, and it's pretty much
just those those old ones, those old originals. But yeah,
what do you think about this news?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I so once again as you mentioned C plus tier,
and I'm gonna say that the if this is a
BS meter situation, I would say that this is ninety
percent BS in my opinion, because yeah, we just had
Dial of Destiny. Was it I think it was twenty
It was it twenty twenty three? Was it two years ago? Now?
Last year? I can't remember, Oh, check it was it
was recently in the last couple of years, twenty twenty three,
and that had Harrison Ford, and it bombed. And it
had a really big budget too, right, which I think
is part of why bombed. Of course, you always got
to compare like how it did versus what its budget was,
and so I just like, like, really, we're going we're
going back that well after it just filled with Harrison Ford.
That feels like the slam dunk of making money, and
it didn't. So I don't know, this seems surprising me.
Just seems like a bit of a risk. I'd say,
maybe take more time, Like, I don't know, if you
really need to strike right now. Is the iron that
hot on this, I would say no, but I obviously
we're not really Like I don't think we're doing another
Harrison Ford one at any point. But still I don't know.
Not that I'm saying we need to continue the current time.
Then I think a reboot is the right call. But
I just think right now it's not gonna happen. I
don't know. Maybe maybe the idea is start afresh, get
a new generation there, you know, put Tom Holland as
Indie and you get like the you get the the
gen z to get like interested in Indiana Jones. But
I just don't think I just don't think it's a
very good idea right now. I think we should let
this one sit in the ice for like quite a
few more years before we revisit it. And like, you know,
they released a game Great Circle last year, and I
think that was quite successful. I wouldn't be surprised the
Machine Games makes another one. Like the IP is not dead,
like it's still doing stuff and that's cool. But yeah,
I don't think we need I don't think we need
this right now, and I'm not personally very excited for it.
If it does happen, obviously they could, they could turn
me around, but yeah, I don't know. I just don't
think this is I think this is a rumor only
and not not an indication of reality in my opinion. Yeah,
I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: More on on that side of the fence with you,
in the sense of it not being very believable believable
that it is going to be happening atime soon. It
just seems really recent and as you highlighted, like just
the fact that we had hareson forth back and that
didn't perform, Like do they think that a complete reboot
with with some unknown is going to be the play?
I think my counter to that is, like, well, I imagine
it would be cheaper because we we aren't doing that.
And the point you also highlighted that, like the reason
why that bomb was because it was such a crazy
budget to do that film. And I imagine Harrison Ford
plus like dagingg. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so Iane shooting down absolutely,
But like I don't know, like just just for fun,
like because of the topic, just had me thinking of
of maybe just lower scale, like like indie adventures where
they don't have to have these crazy train battles. You know,
that costs a lot of money to set up, and
if you do it practically that's an insane budget. Then
if you do it c g I wise, you run
the risk of it looking very log trucky. So I
I don't think you really need a lot for like
an indie tail. Just have like a really enticing lower
related artifact. You know, it's in like a muskie cave
that like you can really create with like a lower
budget than just planes and boyd Holebrook with an MG
forty two fighting at fucking spar on the beaches of Athens.
You know, Like, I think there's a lot there that
you don't need a crazy budget for so, like, I'm
not really asking for this, but I feel like I
am intrigued at the thought of an indie reboot just
because there is a special place in my heart for these,
whether whether it's India Jones or like Uncharted series, just
like the Treasure Hunter kind of type of story, like
like those are just really fun for me. Well, as
I say that, I actually haven't watched the Tom Holland
Uncharted movies, so maybe I should seek that out, but uh, yeah, no,
just just something like lower Croft, like those adventures are
just really fun for me, probably just because I grew
up enjoying those stories with because of Indiana Jones part
of me. So yeah, I somewhere in my heart I
do want this, But it also just seems like there's
more ways that could fail because if if we come back,
we reboot it, we have a new cast, new everything,
and it bombs, and it's like, oh no, Like, what
does this mean? Are we just never gonna see Indy
again for a very long time now? I don't know.
I I I definitely don't think we're completely done with
that franchise. I think it is just a matter of
time for us to reboot it, but it is now
the right time. I don't know, and uh, I think
I'm more worried than not of trying that right now,
like like let's just let's just let's just wait a
little bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, especially like with Great Circle, and like
I said, I like it's getting a dealc I assume
it's gonna get a sequel, would be my guest there.
It's like they're obviously getting Troy Baker to do like
his best Harrison Ford. So it's not like they're like
moving a little away from Harrison Ford anytimes. Seem like
they still want that to be Yeah, the face and
voice of the character. So yeah, it seems like I
don't know, let's say, cause that game, if they do
get a sequels, they say it takes five six years
to develop. If they're really if we're working on this
now reboots, like it's not gonna be weird like we're
doing Harrison Ford, you know, in the video games, but
doing like this new guy like you know, Finnwolf heard
over here as like the live action indy, Like, I
don't know, it could be like a bit a bit
strange to kind of mix those two things at the
same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. As I was mentioned earlier, we have a
Patreon question tied in with this a this category of topic.
I don't know why I say it like that, but
that's why I said. From the Great Cocktail Clay He asked,
who would you want recast as Indiana Jones? Or would
you rather have an unknown a Llah Daisy Ridley coming
into force awakens not having been much of anything, so
kind of a what do you want a a household
name the brad Pitt coming in, you know, like he
did with f one, Or are you wanting some some
unknown that maybe you haven't discovered yet? Or yeah, what
do you think about it? You already mentioned some names.
You just get out the wind Finnwolf heard in there
is that you're Indian.
Speaker 2: Those were my meme. Those were I if I did
you tell them Alan, I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like I was already uncharted. That's like
that's pull.
Speaker 2: Him down a little bit at the tumble. Yeah, I mean,
wonder if they get to old Aaron Aaron Reich, he's
all known to.
Speaker 1: Do. Imagine just another has for when they recast red
Hulk in the future. They get called and.
Speaker 2: I do think the right call is to clay suggestion here.
I don't know if he's necessarily suggesting it, but I
don't think that is the right call. Get it, get it,
get nobody. Pull him off the street, you know, throw
a hat on him, give him a whip, and say
have ad her like. I think that's the way to go.
I would have this about about Jacob Belordi. Who do
you think about that?
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that man he's got that he's
got about him for casting this. Yeah, he does handsome man.
I just feel like that would be a fucking big Indy.
Like there's many times where Indy like he's he's a
pretty like well fit man. But like I just I
don't see him as a giant, and I just see
Jacob Elordi as like a giant. I don't know what
his actual height is, but I just think it's like
six or five or something, and that would just be
an imposing Indiana Joe Ones. But they can also mess
around with it.
Speaker 2: May be it'd be hard to believe that he would
be scared of snakes because he's too big, so they
have to make him scared of like Ryan Oceris or
something like that.
Speaker 1: Something big. Absolutely, I think he's ah, I think he could.
Speaker 2: I think he could pull it off. Though. Do you
think he could pull off like the professor nerdy parts
of the character. Because I think he could do the
action star part. He could do like the flirty womanizer part.
But could he be could he be the nerd with
the glasses on, you know, pushing pencils at his desk.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good actor. I'm sure he could
uh fit into that.
Speaker 2: Jacob LORDI with glasses on. I don't know if I've
seen that before.
Speaker 1: Pull up. It'll be like an AI rendition of it.
As you're searching there, I'll throw another name here. I
definitely think the play would be someone more unknown. Did
you find one? There's your chuck on.
Speaker 2: You never know what's AI and what's real these days,
but these are some weird To.
Speaker 1: Pull it up, you gotta pull up, okay, But yeah,
I think the play would be more of an unknown
uh something that came to mind. I also thought of
Jacob already be Another person is Austin Butler. I I
don't think he would do it, but I just think
he's got the look to it because I could see
him as the more. That's very uh, very suave. Yeah,
I can't do you go, boss, there you go. That's
he just like Indy. Yeah, this is not nerdy vibes.
Speaker 2: This is boy vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, But there is that scene, you know when.
Speaker 2: I can picture him with ray bands, But that's a
different kind of glasses than I'm picturing Indy to be.
Speaker 1: He looks like he's in a London, especially those shorts.
Looks like Anger is young there maybe this one this
picture here, Yeah, he does look too big a menacine,
Like why is the the cameras always the cameraman's always
shorter than him, so he's always looking at the toweries.
I mean, look at that phone on the left, like
like he's just so much bigger than all those other
people above.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I mean that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, yeah, large, there you go. Look at him,
just a monster. It's like Charlton hes then size.
Speaker 2: I was just looking at it. Apparently Harrison Port was
like forty almost, but when they filmed the first one, interesting,
so I would assumed he was younger just because of
like numbers. But yeah, you know, I don't know how
young they would go. They could, they could go for
another forty. They don't have to go for a twenty
year old. It's not like they have for like obviously
Harrison Port doing this character whatever forty years later. You
don't need to go that young in order to have
an Indie for a long time. If they if they're
looking for someone to sign on for multiple movies.
Speaker 1: Right, I feel like my age range would want to
be like thirty to forty and then just kind of
like Indian's prime, and then you can just like what
they did with the movies, if you want to go
into more of his younger backstory, you could. I mean,
if they're thirty, he could you could maybe look them
make them look like they're eighteen.
Speaker 2: But now I'm picturing that we have like a forty
four year old actor who is India. But then for
the flashback sequence you get Jacob a Lordie and he's
just like way taller than yeah, with his ray bands
in the short shorts.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, So my pick would have been
Austin Butler. I don't really think he would do it,
but I could range, so I could see so much range. Yeah,
very handsome man, but I can also see him like
being the more professor but still like, I mean, even
Harrison Ford when he's the professor, he's still like a
handsome man with with the classes on. There's even that
scene of his student trying to flirt with him.
Speaker 2: Right, so yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh so yeah, thank you Cocktail clay Eve.
Another question, I'll bring it. I don't know, maybe I'll
just throw it off now, just just a double double
feature of these questions. This is not in India? Do
you not in India? Do you have any other Indiana
Jones related.
Speaker 2: One more question for you is if they do this reboot,
do you think they call their copying the stories as well,
or are they just going, Okay, we'll do new adventures,
new temples loddied out or do you think they just
go like, oh, we're doing the Boulder sequence again. You know,
we're bringing back doctor Ock to like be in the scene.
And then like I don't know, do they copy the
story one for one or did they kind of just hey,
let's just create some new stories with this character.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a very big mistake if
they try to just remake those. I could see them
having like similar beats, whether it's he's in a plane,
there's a snake in the plane just to be like, oh, yeah,
look it's Indiana Jones and like he's scared scared of snakes, yeah,
or he's run away from the boulder. Like it's just
such an iconic imagery, but like, have it maybe in
a different situation, like not in the same temple that
he's at and in the first movie raised the Lost Arks.
So I would hope they go into a different just
just telling different stories, because I mean, as you already listed,
like there's many games in the past of India Jones
that just tackle different story lines that aren't related to
the movies. It just I feel like the Indiana Jones
as a series just feels very anthology of like let's
just tell these tales just how like they do with
the Double seven films. We're kind of the same universe,
but it's different actors most of the time. I guess
Indiana Jones isn't, but just just different adventures with this
character and they don't really have to be like canonically
connected on like how old was he in this specific
movie versus this and like how did he get from
this situation of this situation. I don't really I don't
really want that on my India Jones, but I mean
double O seven Daniel Craig kind of did that and
I ended up liking that. Just just tiny together the stories,
so I don't want them to redo what's already been done.
I just feel like that can fail more often than not,
but who knows. It's also like, yeah, maybe you just
want to start easy with Raiders of the Lostar because
everything is set up there. But yeah, you what do
you think?
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I think keep it fresh, but you can
have some tasteful homage in there too, whether it is
like a similar looking sequence or you know, maybe I
do a bowler but it's like a different bowler in
a different spot. You know, you have some tasteful homage,
but you kind of keep it separate at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, nice. It's like an oval, you know, chasing
him as opposed to a full sphere, right, or.
Speaker 2: Like a Giant Cube. That could be cool.
Speaker 1: It's just like clunk, clunk, and then it just stops
and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You remember that level in Mario sixty four and
like the sand level with like the Giant Cube. But
then there's like a little hole that you can if
you're on the one side, so you have to like
Mario in the middle. Yes, they could do.
Speaker 1: That, of course, yeah, that that specific level. I remember
that so well, right on anything else on indye. No, Okay,
I'm gonna end this topic off with Clay's second question,
which is not related to pretty much aything we're talking about,
but I absolutely love this question, So throw more questions
like this at our way. Clay asks also dash big question,
you have to get an untraditional pet. No cats, dogs, fish, frogs, turtles,
et cetera. What kind of pet are you get and
what do you name it? And how do you plan
on taking care of it as this particular time in
your personal schedule.
Speaker 2: For you? Is a frog or a turtle a traditional pet?
Because the first sentence, my answer is gonna be like
frog or turtle. Yeah, But then he read my mind
and whipped out these as common pets. I mean, maybe
it's different in the States or something, but I feel
like I don't think I've known a single person who's
had a turtle or a frog. Really.
Speaker 1: I feel like a tarantula is more common than that,
and he didn't list that here, so I feel like
that would be an untraditional pet.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is just biased from
watching Home alone a million times? Like, how how true?
Speaker 1: I have seen someone with a pet tarantula?
Speaker 2: Though? What's his name? Buzz?
Speaker 1: He was a weirdo and uh it was like a
family friend that I remember being at their house for
Halloween and I was just terrified of as tarantula.
Speaker 2: He probably was my bedroom and watch me feed this
tarantula some crickets. Was he one of those types I picked?
He was?
Speaker 1: He was? It was in their living room too, like
it was like the family tarantula.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's family tarantula. That's bizarre.
Speaker 1: The transula's name is probably Buzz.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not traditional, so I would have
given it to you. But he did list it as
an or a traditional pet, I guess, so I would
say for this particular question, no, you cannot use frog
or turtle. I can go first. If you want no,
go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 1: The one. I mean, yeah, there's there's many pets that
I would love to have that I feel like would
be like, like I feel like a goat would be fun.
I feel like that's untraditional, but like I would kind
of have to have a land area, like I'm living
in a condo, so I can't really have a goat
in my land area. Chickens, I don't know if that's
really a pet or just like a resource, So maybe
I won't throw that out again. I don't know where
i'd keep them it.
Speaker 2: Are you chopping it up and cooking it? Yeah? It's
a resource? Are you? Of course?
Speaker 1: Come on eggs? Okay? I mean their eggs for this one, yeah,
Because I'm in a content like we want a second dog,
but like we're not going to get a second dog
to livyard because there's just there's just too much, too
much chaos in a little condo. So for me, I
might be a copy answer. I feel like I'm picking
like a like a hawk or something like a falcon
for this particular situation because in my my little walking
area outside our condo area, there's there's there's kind of
like a little woodland path with like a creek and
just trees and stuff, and it's really close, like it's
usually where people take their dogs to go shit in
the woods and stuff like that and just get into mischief.
So like the hawk could kind of just live there
and then I could just come and visit him you know,
every day and then go for walks together. And yeah,
like I would just go visit him for names. Jarnathan
I think would be my name for that starts out
to D and D movie. That is a name I
never heard of before. But I just feels like a
good pet name again, so good, I love that. So
Jonathan the Hawk or falcon, I guess I have to choose.
I'll do I'll do a hawk that sounds cooler, Jonathan
the Hawk, and uh yeah, I feel like it's also
something that likeil around my neighborhoods he can just yeah,
he's he's a hunter himself. He probably he doesn't want
to just eat cheeseburgers like he wants to keep.
Speaker 2: The local la.
Speaker 1: Absolutely a lot of rodents, I'm assuming in those areas,
but lots of quails. There's there's a lot of quails
in my neighborhood. So he could jack up some quails
hopefully no little dogs. That would be bad. I would
have to discipline him.
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to make him friends with your dog
and yeah, at the very least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could defend my dog. Yeah, So I feel
like that would be definitely a no traditional pet. It's
probably even illegal to like have one of those, but
in this makeshift universe, that's that's what I'm going with
Jonathan the Hawk and yeah, not coming to the house.
Shaye would not allow that, but yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah. One of my answers, what is slash
would have been a monkey like a zuboom, a food
type type small?
Speaker 1: Is that the same thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, there's so many there's so many variations.
There was a cute one I saw at the Vancouver
Aquarium recently which looked kind of like it was had
all black fur, but a really cute face and you.
Speaker 1: Know, just as crazy eyes, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, always crazy, always crazy. But I just think
it would be like obviously it would be in reality
very messy and just like not a great roommate. But
let's say this one was trained and like a good
friend of.
Speaker 1: Mine, Like I think it was the toilet fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this would be a fun companion to
have in the house. And this is on on Patreon.
Travis answered this question and so that was his answer.
It was a monkey, so I'm sure I'm guessing. I'm
guessing Travis would also pick a smaller one like that
and not like a huge chimpanzee or something that would like, yeah,
that would take up like an insane amount of resources.
But I think a small a small monkey would would
be would be great. And another thing when I was
a kid, I feel like it was an imaginary friend,
was that I had, like a pet squirrel. I was like, oh, yeah,
this is the best. I would imagine that, like, you know,
we'd capture one like campaign and then I would like
domesticate it, I guess, and it would just be my friend.
But they're pretty much they're kind of like little cat.
They're like between cat and rodent. I feel like in
terms of like they're a bit cute. They got like
the big puffy tail squirrel chipmunk. I don't know what
the difference isn't necessarily, but you know, one of those
type of things would be pretty small. I think it
would just be a cute thing have around the house
and give it a cute name like Quippie or Gloopy
orop Shoopy, something something kind of cute and yeah, I
don't know, something cute and a little bit whimsical. But
I think that would be great. Like I just imagine
I have a squirrel run around your house, but like
in a fun Q way, not like in a chaotic
like eating your sheets kind of way, but just running around,
and that'd be great.
Speaker 1: No, I definitely thought about that. I remember it was
like middle score of high school. I feel like I
saw a video of someone with like a flying squirrel
as like a pet, like it just like was across
the room and they put out their hand and it
just flew to them, And I'm like, I want a
flying squirrel. That sounds so cool.
Speaker 2: But like people like hamsters and gerbils and stuff, I
feel like a squirrel would be just be a one
step up from that.
Speaker 1: I think, mm hmm. But like gurbils, you keep in
a cage, you know, you don't just leave trust a house. No,
do I trust a flying dribble? Like? I don't think so? Wow,
it's interesting the thought process here. Follow up question what
do you think? I mean? There are different but like
to me, there's not really much difference between a squirrel
and a rat besides their tail, right, Like, really what
is different between the two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not much. I think probably just I wonder
what I wonder why they adapted and evolved to have
the big tail like, I wonder what that does the
rats like for a squirrel like, I wonder I wonder why,
because you know, they're obviously like a common ancestor. I
wonder why they debated and what the difference is there.
I don't know, I guess hmmm, I squirrels, they hibernate, right,
I think, so that might be a difference.
Speaker 1: Rats to keep them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rats, when trained can be a five star chef.
I don't know if you've seen rat of twy, but
that's you know, that's a.
Speaker 1: Possible I heard that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're you're right, there is a similarity there.
And obviously rats are known as like one of the
grossest animals around, so it would be very dangerous. I
feel like the odds of me having like getting diseases
after having the scroll is quite likely. But I guess
not if.
Speaker 1: You're keeping in the house. Yeah, you know, like rats
are in the sewage, they're in the fucking they're just
shitting all over themselves. Rats are disgusting and I hate
rats so much. You're cute, you know, Yeah, So like,
is it the tail or? Is it just because I mean,
their a.
Speaker 2: Big differencecause think but like a no offense. Anyone has,
like a hairless cat, but I scares the hell out
of me.
Speaker 1: I think they're not for me.
Speaker 2: And like the bony tail versus like a cat that
has a puffy table, cuffy table, puffy tail. Oh my god,
I'm mixing my words here, Like huge difference in terms
of how cute or how much I want to, you know,
interact with that cat. So yeah, I feel like the
puffy tail makes a big difference, especially because I think
chipmunks are the ones that have like kind of the
stripes almost on the tail right or like maybe on
their back as well. I think they're smaller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yea interesting cool uh shouts. Do you clay
for the wonderful questions and.
Speaker 2: Keep it coming with these yeah, these these unconventional questions,
I say, I like.
Speaker 1: It absolutely and uh yes, of course, Patron is the
place to post those questions. We're gonna go to our
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