Speaker 1: You know, we choose to take these dips as opportunities,
especially with the volable stocks like we're in. You know,
when some little biotech in the middle of states two
drug trials, or some little you know, government contractor one
hundred million cap market cap off the radar name, you
know that's stock falls thirty percent and some kind of thing,
and you see the CEO and a CFO and a board.
So going out into that thing like, we're going to
take advantage of that, and thanks to the fact that
we see their trades pretty much real time, we can
act quickly on that.
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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Kerry Hey.
Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, I told you about this guy,
and I didn't just tell you about it. I actually
signed up for his service and I got to tell you.
Having been an investor for forty two years maybe a
little more, I've never come across a system like this
that worked as promised that even my thick skull can
grasp the reasons behind it, and that is so simple
and easy to use. And his name is Ross Gibbons. Ross,
great to have you back. Tradersagency dot com. The name
of this particular service he's got a number is Insider
Effect Ross. I mean, look, when we talked last time,
I totally grasped the logic behind the system. Insiders only
by when they believe the stock's going up. They're not perfect,
but some of them are. And what also impressed me
about it is you don't just say go buy this
stock and then you're on your own. You follow up
on it. You say, all right, stock went up twenty percent?
Time to get rid of half. And sometimes it's really
hard to push that trade button when you're up twenty
percent because you think, well, what if it goes up
one hundred percent? I mid that on eighty percent of
the move, but then it's not like that's your last recommendation.
Then another one comes up in another and I've had
some forty fifty percent gains granted, after the correction in
the past couple of weeks, the gains went down, but
I had already sold half right, and as a result,
on all the ones that I kept, I didn't have
any profit less than fifteen percent. And I started in
literally May twenty ninth, and you know, as of today,
you know, portfolio is up well over ten percent. It's
hard to know when because I put more money in
and it's constant stream of recommendations. But probably if you
were looking at an annualized return just based on this
two and a half month time period, I'm looking at
over one hundred percent. Now is it realistic to expect that? No,
I don't. But it looks like, you know, you buy
this stock and then you wonder it does nothing, and
then one day, you know, you wake up, you pull
up the screen, the thing's up twenty percent one day.
One of them last week or two weeks ago that
you had. I got in late, it was already up
twenty percent, but I bought in anyway, at the peak
it was up like sixty seventy percent. I sold half.
I locked in thirty or forty because I was late
to the game. I mean, it's like I don't think
I'm a genius here at all. I'm just I don't
think I am either.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind words, but you're right, and I
tell people all the time with the idea is very straightforward.
It's not a complicated strategy. Now, it does take some
work to execute, to do the research, do the work.
But yeah, and thank you for everything you said. Again, Look, yeah,
I think you summed it up perfectly. You know, it's
not perfect. We're going to have some that don't make money.
But on average, like we were talking about before the show,
what we usually see is again I've been doing as
far member since twenty seventeen, so I got six and
a half years of data on this. Usually one out
of every four or five tends to be a pretty
good winner, forty to fifty sixty seventy percent on the stock.
One or two of those are fine, you know, up ten, fifteen, twenty,
slow grind, and then one maybe two just don't do anything,
and we don't see a lot of big losers. Now,
we risk, as you've seen, usually ten to fifteen percent
of each of these stocks. So we're not you know,
we're not cowboys anyway, but it's just rare to see
big losses because of the way we're filtering the picks.
We're only buying stocks where the CEO, the CFO and
the vice presidents and the board members and all these
top executives are buying the stock with their own money.
And so to see that, especially a cluster of it
right for some terrible stock crushing news comes out, it's
just very low. I just can't imagine a situation where
they do it other than the occasional black swan event
like we saw with the in trade unfold in a
couple of weeks ago or some of that that effects. So,
you know, again not guarantee we we'll have lose, but
usually our losers, like we cut a couple last week,
this hadn't gone anywhere. We're up to three four percent
on them, but it's like, I don't want to sit
on dead money. Meanwhile, Doug, the one you were talking about,
which we bought July twenty sixth, that's been three weeks,
it's up sixty plus percent. Yeah, no, we got what
We've got others that have done even more, and so
usually people don't get too worked up over the five
or six or eight percent you know loss or you know,
we'll to just break even when you got a big
win there to pad that.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I had one. It hit twenty percent
and you said get out of it. Like three days
later it was down twenty percent. I know that was
an anomaly, and heck, you're going to have losers, but uh,
and it was early on. But you know, the one
thing I got to say about the system, it is
a bit of a roller coaster. You know, like it's
going up, and then you have weeks like last week,
the week before gets the stuff that kicked out, but
then it like goes back up the hill.
Speaker 4: And your strategy is don't wait for the car to
go over the hump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sell off some on the upside and then wait
and hold on and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, it's just a it's how you choose
to risk management. Everybody does one of two ways. Either
going to sell in a strength, You're going to sell
into weakness. Nobody's got a plan for weakness. You got
to stop loss, or a trailing stop that rolls over.
I go to get out, but nobody ever gets out
of the top. And it's impossible if you're just trailing
a stop. So you're always going to lose that last
twenty twenty five percent if you do that. So you know,
what we do is look we you know, look at it.
Shart of the stock. Look at the average moves over
the last last few years. What does a good rally
look like twenty eight? You know, each stock is different,
and when you get something in excess of that, like look,
take some off the table when they getting's good. You know,
if you've got a stock that on average makes twenty
thirty forty percent rallies and you're up eighty percent the
last month, well 't's see run away for it to crash.
I'm going to sell some. Maybe it goes up one
hundred and eighty and I wish I had more. But
like they say, you never go broke, taken a profit,
and I've got members to protect. And people don't have
a lot of experience to say, look, you got a
nice win. You're up fifty percent on the stock in
two or three weeks. Uh, sell half, put some money
in your pocket, feel good about it. And it's just
so much easier to manage the rest of that trade
when you've already taken profits. No, you put let's say
five grand in it, it's up fifty percent, so you're
taking thirty five hundred bucks out you still got to
so now it's easier to manage. Now you got out
worried about every tick because you've already taken some, so
it's easier to stay with it. As you know, the
psychological parts the toughest, and so that's what we found
to work the best.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at you know, I looked at every
single recommendation that you made. Okay, I tracked them back
to the inception of the service, and it looked like
about a third don't work out. You have cell recommendations,
but then yeah, can I share some of the open positions? Sure?
Speaker 1: You know now on the ones that don't work out,
you should tell everybody. We're not talking about forty and
fifty percent losses here. Most of these. Oh no, In
twelve fifteen, I think the worst loss we ever had
was twenty four percent, and I lost sleep over that one.
Usually they're fifteen percent or left. We don't risk a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at your like, one of your first
recommendations here, well, I shouldn't see your first back in
April ninth was twenty twenty. Now if you'd only bought
this one and held matted to our resources a fifteen
hundred percent gain, which means a fifteenfold increase. Here, I
mean you know like you can't. You're not making this
stuff up.
Speaker 4: This is real.
Speaker 1: No, And look, it's not that I'm any greats stock picker.
It's that there's this loophole where the insiders are revealing
their hands and sometimes they just happened to be by.
Sometimes they just think it's kind of cheap or whatever,
but sometimes they know something and they're exploiting that. In
the case of Matador, Now this is an oil stock.
So you're talking April twenty twenty. You remember oil prices
with the feel it negative negative negative. Yeah, so it
never happened before. But yeah, but look, COVID happened. No
one's driving oil prices crash. Oil stocks got hammered. Does
it cost them fifty sixty bucks a barrel to get
this crap out of the ground. If they sell it
for eighty or ninety, that's good. They can sell it
for ten, they're going to go out of business. So
everyone thinks this little Matador is going under, but insiders
start piling in the stocks three bucks a year. We
followed along. Next our nature board comes out. Turns out
they had hedged all their oil production for the next
eighteen months. Selling futures are like eighty five bucks a barrel.
So this company everybody's thinking is going to zero, is
totally safe. And we bought the stock at three and
a half bucks at trades for fifty seven today. Yeah,
so the kind of outliers we're looking for, we can
make a lot of money. Liquidity services. We're up three
hundred percent. We were up over six hundred at one point.
We've already sold ninety percent of it. You know, a
lot of these others, uh, you know, we get up
these big I mean, this is just the open positions.
You know, we've had many that We're up three four
hundred percent. We closed out, we took the final stop
on you know, and I think to your point earlier
said it's kind of a roller coaster ride. I think
the reason for that, especially in a week like we
saw with the big dip in the market. These are
smaller stocks, you know, the small to mid cap names,
the two three, five ten dollars stocks are gonna be
a little bit more volatile than ge and Apple, right,
especially the ones like Doug where it's up sixty percent
to last two weeks, it can afford to fall a little. Yeah,
you know, and so that's you do see that. But
I don't see our combolls stay as much behit as
it is. The stocks that are already up tend to
be a little more volatile after such big moods.
Speaker 4: Higher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to have retracements, and that they're volatile,
That's what I mean. Because they're smaller by nature, they
have to be more volatile because the liquidity isn't there.
They're more prone to emotional outbursts on the upt of
the down side. You know, one thing that you've taught
me though from this system, I'd never followed a system
as religiously as this one is you don't fall in
love with these companies. They're just a ticker symbol and
they're dollars, and when something happens, you get the heck out.
And you know, the only the only ripe I have
is you know, like when I used to gamble and
i'd be on a streak, I would double down, but
here I'm cutting back and that good against like human nature.
But I've managed to like put my emotions aside. I
read your right up. There's a couple I didn't buy
I wish I had, But you know, for the most part,
I just follow what you say.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear you say that, because we've
put a lot of work into those ride ups. You see,
it's not as the ticker symbol. It's four or five
six pages of research. I believe people should know what
they own, why they own it, what the business does,
what insiders are buying, and to make the decisions. Like
you did, say, I just disagree on this and I
don't want to take it, or this is what I'm
talking about. I want to go in heavy and I
think you should have all the information necessary to do that.
So I'm glad you're getting some value out of that.
But yeah, you're right. Look, I believe in dating stocks,
not marrying them. You know, we're not getting attached to
the story. We're hoping that insiders are taking advantage of
some of the rest of us don't know, and markets,
especially with small stocks, reprice them very quickly, you know.
But STOT can go up sixty percent in two weeks.
Whatever the heck the market didn't know, they probably know
now you.
Speaker 3: Know, well, one thing I love being a recovering attorney myself.
You say, the insider that you put the most credence
in when he buys is the general counsel, the in
house attorney. I got such a laugh out of that.
Speaker 1: Well, tell me if you agree with this, because my thought,
and it's the one you rarely see, right, you rarely
see the general counsel buying, But when they do, I mean, lawyers,
you live or die by your reputation. Now, even the
appearance of impropriety the be damning for a career like that.
And so to me, it's like, and these are usually attorneys,
you might be the exception, are pretty risk averse people.
So when they're taking all that into account and what
I can't path this up and putting three hundred g's
into their little stock, it's like, all right, yeah, my attention.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with the premise, especially when it's part
of a cluster, because it's like, wow, all the big
guys are doing it, all right, I'll put up a
little bit myself and do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's no question that the attorneys are
going to be the most risk averse because usually their
job is to say no, yeah, and they carry that
forward into their investment.
Speaker 4: Behavior.
Speaker 3: And the fact is a lot of attorneys are not
the best businessmen, so but when they see the golden
opportunity and they reach for it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: One of the other things I really like is when
I see those insiders piling in like Matador, when the
stock has gotten absolutely decimated, like Doug, that stock is
just trading. It's a shadow of its former self. That
one that confidence unless they're doing window dressing and they're
just buying for the you know, for the appearance. Seems
to be really powerful indicator too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, timing bottoms, as you know, is it
can be extremely profitable. It can also be very difficult.
Traditional stocks like oh it's ten, now it's five. I
want to buy. Well, you're not gonna feel go when
it goes to one. You know, you need something that
says either it's ridiculously cheap or things are turning around
are not as bad as the Wall Street walltree things.
And so a cluster of insider buying is one thing
that can signal that to us, you know. And and
you made a good point. The window dressing people. I
hold these live webinars every couple of weeks and I get, oh, Ross,
I saw that this CEO bought this stock, Should I
buy it? And I'm like, that's the problem. You have
one little piece of data you don't know did he
buy every month? Does he normally put a million bucks
in and now he's only putting one hundred thousand right?
Or the window dressing? Are they new to the company.
This is something I see all the time. A new CEO,
CFO board member gets appointed, first thing they do inside
the first three months is go put two hundred grand
in the stock. And I call it a show of faith.
Speaker 4: Buy.
Speaker 1: We were just trying to show, hey, I believe in
this company. I've got skin in the game. So we're
looking for the situations where those same people haven't done
anything in five and a half years. Now they're suddenly
going in with these huge trades, bigger than they've ever made.
And again, nothing's guaranteed. But if you give me a
pick between a stock like Nvidia where the CEO is
selling tens of millions of dollars worth every day and
it stopped just trading it by if you're lows, we're
CEOs putting five times as annual salary into the stock.
I'm going to take the ladder. And I think that's
why our returns have been so consistent over the years.
I mean even twenty twenty two we made money a
year Like twenty twenty, we made a fortune here we
I think our stock portfolio and this is assuming twenty
percent per stock, right just to make it even. I
think we at our three hundred and seventy percent that
year because some of those stocks you remember twenty twenty,
things just went nuts and we're getting oh yes, small caps,
insiders are tipping us off. Some of them are cryptomners.
I mean we were seeing four or five hundred percent
stock gains in there and just had a phenomenal year.
So you know, there are bear markets, there are times
when everything's going to go down. We've recommended stocks to
go down and then eventually went back up, but we're
not going to take much risk with it. But you know,
we've beaten the market every year, not every trade, not
every month, but over quarters, over years. This this fairly
simple strategy has proven to outperform, at least in the
last six and a half years we've been doing it.
Speaker 3: Hey, and I'm a believer because I followed these insider traders,
you know, insiders buying their shares for a long time.
But you know your system gives you all the info
and puts it in perspective. I love the concept of
the perfect insider. You know, always makes money on any
company they're involved with.
Speaker 1: You know that, Yeah, and it's it's another important part
of it. We'd look at their track records. You know,
it's not overly complicated. Just like you, if you said Ross,
I'm telling you this is the trade, put one hundred
grant in it, and like, all right, show me show
me your track record for ten years. If you consistently
lose money, I'm not going to listen to you. And
if you're showing me, hey, this Carrie makes fifty percent
a year, he's going ham on this one, I'm far
more inclined to trust you.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So there's some insiders who aren'ty good, who don't know anything.
There's politicians who are terrible stock traders too. There's some
like Pelosi who are very good. And so if they
always buy the lows, they always buy before big news,
you do yourself a favor by paying attention when when
they trade again.
Speaker 3: So I know a lot of you out there. You
follow the hedge funds, the big institutional investors. But that's
not as good as this. Is it gross?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because hedge funds, I mean, even
though they have good they spend a lot of money
on research. There's no way you can have the same
knowledge of that company as the freaking chief financial officer,
as the CEO, as the chairman of the board.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: The two other things about hedge funds. One is they're
not betting their own money, so they're far more inclined
to take outsized risks. Me and I'm following people who
go home to their wife or husband and say, honey,
I'd like to take five hundred k out of savings
and put it into my little biotech stock. Here's why.
And the second thing is, even if the hedge funds
were that good, which some are, you don't have real
time access. You know, hedge funds have they report forty
five days after the end of the quarter. Right, Apple
revealed or sorry, Buffett revealed each sold his Apple position. Yeah,
April in May, like it's August. You know that's not
helping me. Now. Insiders have to report almost immediately. They
have forty eight hours to report their trades and can
see those instantly. Most do it the same day, so
nine times at at ten they buy Monday, you know,
Tuesday morning. And that's much more actionable to me than
this ninety day lag time following a hedge fund or
a forty five day lagtime with a politician. So for
those reasons, yes, I think this is superior or to
following edge funds.
Speaker 3: So the market volatility. Obviously volatility is our friend in
this case, but it can.
Speaker 4: Be your enemy.
Speaker 3: What do you think the bullmarket's going to resume? Interest
rates going down doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the bullmarket resumes. I mean if something,
if we get shocked and we get a Kamala presidency,
I think you're going to have a big, big scare,
at least initially on that data. But yeah, you know,
when you look at market, well, the stock marker is
an ouption no different than eBay, right as buyers and
sellers trying to agree on price and stocks are no
different than any other asset, housing, gold, cars, you name it.
If the price is right, people are going to buy.
So when you get a shock events like we saw
from Japan, the market falls, you know, ten percent in
a couple of days. Are big investors buying at ten
percent off prices? If they're not, and it's not just squats,
that's a bad sign. But we've seen a really strong
rally the last ten trinty. I think the SMB's up
seven or eight percent, just high, higher, high, every single day.
And so when it comes to individual stocks, and one
once taught me you want to buy tennis balls and
sell eggs. Right when a stock dips, does it bounce
right back up or is it just squat and splat
there on the pavement. And so if you got a
stock it's at forty dollars, suddenly it's at twenty next week, Well,
if it can't go from twenty, if nobody wants to
buy it a half off, that's that's not a good signers,
No demand is probably going lower. On the other hand,
you know, in videos trade one to ten, if it
would have fifty to more, I bet you'd see it
pretty quick bounced from a lot of people who would
take advantage of that dip. So that's all we look
at it. Right now. The market is speaking pretty clearly.
They're buying to take advantage of the dip. As you said,
rates are coming off freaking pow. I mean, maybe eventually
gives us a rate cut that he's been promising for
the last twelve months, but the ten years down pretty
significantly the last couple of weeks. They're already pricing him in.
So yeah, I think, especially under a Trump presidency, who
is like him or hate him, I mean historically a
pro jobs, deregulation, lower taxes, all things that are good
for the market, he's priced in to win that boosts stocks,
we get rates lower. Yeah, I'm very bully. Do I
think it Vidio is going to double from here? No,
I think that one's probably near the top of the bubble.
But I'm very still, very very bullish on the market.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, so.
Speaker 3: You know, like one thing is, we often have these
dead cat bounces when we take a hit, like we
did the past few weeks. But in this case, this
dead cat's got a lot of life fit in here,
Like you were just thinking, it's bounced back and continued
to and like you say, higher highs and higher lows.
So and there haven't been that many down days really
since since it ended.
Speaker 4: So I'm with you on that count. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look at anything can happen. I'm not I'm
not discounting that, but you know, we we choose to
take these dips as opportunities, especially with the volatile stocks
like we're in. You know, when some little biotech in
the middle of states two drug trials or some little
you know, government contractor one hundred million cap market cap
off the radar name, you know, that stock falls thirty
percent and some kind of thing, and you see the
CEO and a CFO and a board and so going
out into that thing, like, we're going to take advantage
of that. And thanks to the fact that we see
their trades pretty much real time, we can act quickly
on that, unlike following buffet or somebody like oh yeah
he did by the dip. Wish I knew that was
going on, didn't you know?
Speaker 4: Hey, so you got some other services?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: We do.
Speaker 1: We have a couple other things we do, one being
you know, followed these institutional stops. Do you following where
we see those institutional dollars floid, which is you know,
what moves the markets. And we do a couple other
things as well, but by far the most consistent the
thing we've been doing the log is the best track
record is following these insiders, and for very very active traders,
it made more of them. We put out on average,
like four or five stocks a month. Now they're each
very they're well researched, they're vetted. It's a full idea.
We're not risking a lot. I think it still returns
or produces great returns. But we do have some other services.
We're taking four or five trades a week, a little
more active, trying to scalp you know, ten, twelve, fifteen,
twenty percent returns for those kind of people, but especially
for paths of investors, I think this insider approach is
the easiest to follow. It makes the most sense. The
idea is very logical and sound, and it's it's extremely
easy to follow and execute. We've got a full for support. Yeah,
full support staff and all as well. People need to
call in.
Speaker 3: And have anyppreciate it too, All right, well, hey, appreciate
you coming on Ross. I'm glad to be able to
share my experiences through service. We got a link in
the show notes to sign up for a webinar.
Speaker 4: I highly recommend you do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's no guarantees in life, but
I don't at this point in life my experience, I
don't get excited over much this having actually experienced it,
seeing these returns go up, I'm a believer.
Speaker 4: So take a look. Click the link. Ross.
Speaker 3: We'll definitely have it back on again, especially if the
market make some gyrations to get your view on it.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you coming on. We'll talk to you again soon.
All right.
Speaker 1: Thanks Gerry, always going to talk with you.
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