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Speaker 1: You know, we choose to take these dips as opportunities,

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especially with the volable stocks like we're in. You know,

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when some little biotech in the middle of states two

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drug trials, or some little you know, government contractor one

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hundred million cap market cap off the radar name, you

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know that's stock falls thirty percent and some kind of thing,

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and you see the CEO and a CFO and a board.

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take advantage of that, and thanks to the fact that

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we see their trades pretty much real time, we can

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act quickly on that.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Kerry Hey.

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Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, I told you about this guy,

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and I didn't just tell you about it. I actually

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signed up for his service and I got to tell you.

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Having been an investor for forty two years maybe a

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little more, I've never come across a system like this

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that worked as promised that even my thick skull can

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grasp the reasons behind it, and that is so simple

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and easy to use. And his name is Ross Gibbons. Ross,

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great to have you back. Tradersagency dot com. The name

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of this particular service he's got a number is Insider

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Effect Ross. I mean, look, when we talked last time,

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I totally grasped the logic behind the system. Insiders only

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by when they believe the stock's going up. They're not perfect,

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but some of them are. And what also impressed me

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about it is you don't just say go buy this

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stock and then you're on your own. You follow up

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on it. You say, all right, stock went up twenty percent?

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Time to get rid of half. And sometimes it's really

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hard to push that trade button when you're up twenty

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percent because you think, well, what if it goes up

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one hundred percent? I mid that on eighty percent of

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the move, but then it's not like that's your last recommendation.

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Then another one comes up in another and I've had

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some forty fifty percent gains granted, after the correction in

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the past couple of weeks, the gains went down, but

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I had already sold half right, and as a result,

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on all the ones that I kept, I didn't have

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any profit less than fifteen percent. And I started in

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literally May twenty ninth, and you know, as of today,

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you know, portfolio is up well over ten percent. It's

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hard to know when because I put more money in

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and it's constant stream of recommendations. But probably if you

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were looking at an annualized return just based on this

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two and a half month time period, I'm looking at

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over one hundred percent. Now is it realistic to expect that? No,

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I don't. But it looks like, you know, you buy

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this stock and then you wonder it does nothing, and

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then one day, you know, you wake up, you pull

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up the screen, the thing's up twenty percent one day.

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you had. I got in late, it was already up

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twenty percent, but I bought in anyway, at the peak

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it was up like sixty seventy percent. I sold half.

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I locked in thirty or forty because I was late

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to the game. I mean, it's like I don't think

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I'm a genius here at all. I'm just I don't

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind words, but you're right, and I

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tell people all the time with the idea is very straightforward.

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work to execute, to do the research, do the work.

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But yeah, and thank you for everything you said. Again, Look, yeah,

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not perfect. We're going to have some that don't make money.

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of every four or five tends to be a pretty

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good winner, forty to fifty sixty seventy percent on the stock.

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slow grind, and then one maybe two just don't do anything,

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and we don't see a lot of big losers. Now,

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we risk, as you've seen, usually ten to fifteen percent

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of each of these stocks. So we're not you know,

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we're not cowboys anyway, but it's just rare to see

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big losses because of the way we're filtering the picks.

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the vice presidents and the board members and all these

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right for some terrible stock crushing news comes out, it's

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this hadn't gone anywhere. We're up to three four percent

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on them, but it's like, I don't want to sit

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on dead money. Meanwhile, Doug, the one you were talking about,

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which we bought July twenty sixth, that's been three weeks,

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or six or eight percent you know loss or you know,

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we'll to just break even when you got a big

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win there to pad that.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I had one. It hit twenty percent

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an anomaly, and heck, you're going to have losers, but uh,

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and it was early on. But you know, the one

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thing I got to say about the system, it is

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a bit of a roller coaster. You know, like it's

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going up, and then you have weeks like last week,

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the week before gets the stuff that kicked out, but

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Speaker 4: And your strategy is don't wait for the car to

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go over the hump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sell off some on the upside and then wait

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, it's just a it's how you choose

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to risk management. Everybody does one of two ways. Either

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going to sell in a strength, You're going to sell

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into weakness. Nobody's got a plan for weakness. You got

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to stop loss, or a trailing stop that rolls over.

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I go to get out, but nobody ever gets out

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of the top. And it's impossible if you're just trailing

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a stop. So you're always going to lose that last

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twenty twenty five percent if you do that. So you know,

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the last last few years. What does a good rally

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look like twenty eight? You know, each stock is different,

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and when you get something in excess of that, like look,

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take some off the table when they getting's good. You know,

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if you've got a stock that on average makes twenty

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thirty forty percent rallies and you're up eighty percent the

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last month, well 't's see run away for it to crash.

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hundred and eighty and I wish I had more. But

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like they say, you never go broke, taken a profit,

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and I've got members to protect. And people don't have

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a lot of experience to say, look, you got a

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nice win. You're up fifty percent on the stock in

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two or three weeks. Uh, sell half, put some money

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in your pocket, feel good about it. And it's just

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so much easier to manage the rest of that trade

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when you've already taken profits. No, you put let's say

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five grand in it, it's up fifty percent, so you're

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taking thirty five hundred bucks out you still got to

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so now it's easier to manage. Now you got out

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worried about every tick because you've already taken some, so

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it's easier to stay with it. As you know, the

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psychological parts the toughest, and so that's what we found

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to work the best.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at you know, I looked at every

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single recommendation that you made. Okay, I tracked them back

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to the inception of the service, and it looked like

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about a third don't work out. You have cell recommendations,

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but then yeah, can I share some of the open positions? Sure?

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Speaker 1: You know now on the ones that don't work out,

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you should tell everybody. We're not talking about forty and

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fifty percent losses here. Most of these. Oh no, In

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twelve fifteen, I think the worst loss we ever had

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was twenty four percent, and I lost sleep over that one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at your like, one of your first

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recommendations here, well, I shouldn't see your first back in

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April ninth was twenty twenty. Now if you'd only bought

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this one and held matted to our resources a fifteen

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hundred percent gain, which means a fifteenfold increase. Here, I

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mean you know like you can't. You're not making this

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Speaker 4: This is real.

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Speaker 1: No, And look, it's not that I'm any greats stock picker.

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their hands and sometimes they just happened to be by.

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but sometimes they know something and they're exploiting that. In

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the case of Matador, Now this is an oil stock.

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with the feel it negative negative negative. Yeah, so it

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never happened before. But yeah, but look, COVID happened. No

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one's driving oil prices crash. Oil stocks got hammered. Does

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this crap out of the ground. If they sell it

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for eighty or ninety, that's good. They can sell it

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for ten, they're going to go out of business. So

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everyone thinks this little Matador is going under, but insiders

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start piling in the stocks three bucks a year. We

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followed along. Next our nature board comes out. Turns out

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they had hedged all their oil production for the next

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eighteen months. Selling futures are like eighty five bucks a barrel.

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totally safe. And we bought the stock at three and

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a half bucks at trades for fifty seven today. Yeah,

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so the kind of outliers we're looking for, we can

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make a lot of money. Liquidity services. We're up three

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hundred percent. We were up over six hundred at one point.

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lot of these others, uh, you know, we get up

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these big I mean, this is just the open positions.

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hundred percent. We closed out, we took the final stop

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the reason for that, especially in a week like we

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smaller stocks, you know, the small to mid cap names,

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the two three, five ten dollars stocks are gonna be

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a little bit more volatile than ge and Apple, right,

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especially the ones like Doug where it's up sixty percent

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to last two weeks, it can afford to fall a little. Yeah,

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you know, and so that's you do see that. But

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it is. The stocks that are already up tend to

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be a little more volatile after such big moods.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to have retracements, and that they're volatile,

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have to be more volatile because the liquidity isn't there.

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the down side. You know, one thing that you've taught

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me though from this system, I'd never followed a system

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as religiously as this one is you don't fall in

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love with these companies. They're just a ticker symbol and

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they're dollars, and when something happens, you get the heck out.

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here I'm cutting back and that good against like human nature.

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But I've managed to like put my emotions aside. I

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read your right up. There's a couple I didn't buy

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear you say that, because we've

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put a lot of work into those ride ups. You see,

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it's not as the ticker symbol. It's four or five

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six pages of research. I believe people should know what

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they own, why they own it, what the business does,

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what insiders are buying, and to make the decisions. Like

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you did, say, I just disagree on this and I

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don't want to take it, or this is what I'm

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talking about. I want to go in heavy and I

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think you should have all the information necessary to do that.

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So I'm glad you're getting some value out of that.

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But yeah, you're right. Look, I believe in dating stocks,

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not marrying them. You know, we're not getting attached to

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the story. We're hoping that insiders are taking advantage of

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some of the rest of us don't know, and markets,

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especially with small stocks, reprice them very quickly, you know.

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But STOT can go up sixty percent in two weeks.

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Whatever the heck the market didn't know, they probably know

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Speaker 3: Know, well, one thing I love being a recovering attorney myself.

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You say, the insider that you put the most credence

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in when he buys is the general counsel, the in

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house attorney. I got such a laugh out of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell me if you agree with this, because my thought,

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and it's the one you rarely see, right, you rarely

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see the general counsel buying, But when they do, I mean, lawyers,

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you live or die by your reputation. Now, even the

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appearance of impropriety the be damning for a career like that.

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And so to me, it's like, and these are usually attorneys,

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you might be the exception, are pretty risk averse people.

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So when they're taking all that into account and what

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I can't path this up and putting three hundred g's

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into their little stock, it's like, all right, yeah, my attention.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with the premise, especially when it's part

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of a cluster, because it's like, wow, all the big

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guys are doing it, all right, I'll put up a

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little bit myself and do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's no question that the attorneys are

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going to be the most risk averse because usually their

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job is to say no, yeah, and they carry that

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forward into their investment.

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Speaker 4: Behavior.

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Speaker 3: And the fact is a lot of attorneys are not

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the best businessmen, so but when they see the golden

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opportunity and they reach for it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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I see those insiders piling in like Matador, when the

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stock has gotten absolutely decimated, like Doug, that stock is

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just trading. It's a shadow of its former self. That

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one that confidence unless they're doing window dressing and they're

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just buying for the you know, for the appearance. Seems

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to be really powerful indicator too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, timing bottoms, as you know, is it

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can be extremely profitable. It can also be very difficult.

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want to buy. Well, you're not gonna feel go when

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it goes to one. You know, you need something that

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says either it's ridiculously cheap or things are turning around

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are not as bad as the Wall Street walltree things.

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And so a cluster of insider buying is one thing

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that can signal that to us, you know. And and

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you made a good point. The window dressing people. I

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hold these live webinars every couple of weeks and I get, oh, Ross,

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I saw that this CEO bought this stock, Should I

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buy it? And I'm like, that's the problem. You have

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one little piece of data you don't know did he

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buy every month? Does he normally put a million bucks

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in and now he's only putting one hundred thousand right?

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Or the window dressing? Are they new to the company.

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This is something I see all the time. A new CEO,

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CFO board member gets appointed, first thing they do inside

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the first three months is go put two hundred grand

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in the stock. And I call it a show of faith.

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Speaker 4: Buy.

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Speaker 1: We were just trying to show, hey, I believe in

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this company. I've got skin in the game. So we're

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looking for the situations where those same people haven't done

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anything in five and a half years. Now they're suddenly

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going in with these huge trades, bigger than they've ever made.

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And again, nothing's guaranteed. But if you give me a

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pick between a stock like Nvidia where the CEO is

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selling tens of millions of dollars worth every day and

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it stopped just trading it by if you're lows, we're

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CEOs putting five times as annual salary into the stock.

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I'm going to take the ladder. And I think that's

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why our returns have been so consistent over the years.

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I mean even twenty twenty two we made money a

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year Like twenty twenty, we made a fortune here we

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I think our stock portfolio and this is assuming twenty

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percent per stock, right just to make it even. I

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think we at our three hundred and seventy percent that

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year because some of those stocks you remember twenty twenty,

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things just went nuts and we're getting oh yes, small caps,

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insiders are tipping us off. Some of them are cryptomners.

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I mean we were seeing four or five hundred percent

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stock gains in there and just had a phenomenal year.

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So you know, there are bear markets, there are times

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when everything's going to go down. We've recommended stocks to

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go down and then eventually went back up, but we're

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not going to take much risk with it. But you know,

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we've beaten the market every year, not every trade, not

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every month, but over quarters, over years. This this fairly

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simple strategy has proven to outperform, at least in the

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last six and a half years we've been doing it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and I'm a believer because I followed these insider traders,

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you know, insiders buying their shares for a long time.

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But you know your system gives you all the info

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and puts it in perspective. I love the concept of

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the perfect insider. You know, always makes money on any

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company they're involved with.

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Speaker 1: You know that, Yeah, and it's it's another important part

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of it. We'd look at their track records. You know,

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it's not overly complicated. Just like you, if you said Ross,

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I'm telling you this is the trade, put one hundred

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grant in it, and like, all right, show me show

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me your track record for ten years. If you consistently

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lose money, I'm not going to listen to you. And

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if you're showing me, hey, this Carrie makes fifty percent

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a year, he's going ham on this one, I'm far

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more inclined to trust you.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So there's some insiders who aren'ty good, who don't know anything.

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There's politicians who are terrible stock traders too. There's some

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like Pelosi who are very good. And so if they

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always buy the lows, they always buy before big news,

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you do yourself a favor by paying attention when when

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they trade again.

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Speaker 3: So I know a lot of you out there. You

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follow the hedge funds, the big institutional investors. But that's

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not as good as this. Is it gross?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, because hedge funds, I mean, even

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though they have good they spend a lot of money

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on research. There's no way you can have the same

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knowledge of that company as the freaking chief financial officer,

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as the CEO, as the chairman of the board.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: The two other things about hedge funds. One is they're

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not betting their own money, so they're far more inclined

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to take outsized risks. Me and I'm following people who

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go home to their wife or husband and say, honey,

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I'd like to take five hundred k out of savings

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and put it into my little biotech stock. Here's why.

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And the second thing is, even if the hedge funds

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were that good, which some are, you don't have real

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time access. You know, hedge funds have they report forty

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five days after the end of the quarter. Right, Apple

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revealed or sorry, Buffett revealed each sold his Apple position. Yeah,

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April in May, like it's August. You know that's not

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helping me. Now. Insiders have to report almost immediately. They

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have forty eight hours to report their trades and can

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see those instantly. Most do it the same day, so

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nine times at at ten they buy Monday, you know,

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Tuesday morning. And that's much more actionable to me than

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this ninety day lag time following a hedge fund or

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a forty five day lagtime with a politician. So for

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those reasons, yes, I think this is superior or to

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following edge funds.

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Speaker 3: So the market volatility. Obviously volatility is our friend in

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this case, but it can.

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Speaker 4: Be your enemy.

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Speaker 3: What do you think the bullmarket's going to resume? Interest

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rates going down doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the bullmarket resumes. I mean if something,

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if we get shocked and we get a Kamala presidency,

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I think you're going to have a big, big scare,

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at least initially on that data. But yeah, you know,

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when you look at market, well, the stock marker is

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an ouption no different than eBay, right as buyers and

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sellers trying to agree on price and stocks are no

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different than any other asset, housing, gold, cars, you name it.

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If the price is right, people are going to buy.

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So when you get a shock events like we saw

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from Japan, the market falls, you know, ten percent in

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a couple of days. Are big investors buying at ten

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percent off prices? If they're not, and it's not just squats,

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that's a bad sign. But we've seen a really strong

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rally the last ten trinty. I think the SMB's up

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seven or eight percent, just high, higher, high, every single day.

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once taught me you want to buy tennis balls and

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sell eggs. Right when a stock dips, does it bounce

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right back up or is it just squat and splat

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there on the pavement. And so if you got a

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stock it's at forty dollars, suddenly it's at twenty next week, Well,

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if it can't go from twenty, if nobody wants to

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buy it a half off, that's that's not a good signers,

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No demand is probably going lower. On the other hand,

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you know, in videos trade one to ten, if it

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would have fifty to more, I bet you'd see it

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pretty quick bounced from a lot of people who would

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take advantage of that dip. So that's all we look

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at it. Right now. The market is speaking pretty clearly.

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They're buying to take advantage of the dip. As you said,

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rates are coming off freaking pow. I mean, maybe eventually

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gives us a rate cut that he's been promising for

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the last twelve months, but the ten years down pretty

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significantly the last couple of weeks. They're already pricing him in.

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So yeah, I think, especially under a Trump presidency, who

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is like him or hate him, I mean historically a

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pro jobs, deregulation, lower taxes, all things that are good

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for the market, he's priced in to win that boosts stocks,

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we get rates lower. Yeah, I'm very bully. Do I

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think it Vidio is going to double from here? No,

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I think that one's probably near the top of the bubble.

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But I'm very still, very very bullish on the market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, so.

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Speaker 3: You know, like one thing is, we often have these

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dead cat bounces when we take a hit, like we

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did the past few weeks. But in this case, this

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dead cat's got a lot of life fit in here,

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Like you were just thinking, it's bounced back and continued

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to and like you say, higher highs and higher lows.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you on that count. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look at anything can happen. I'm not I'm

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not discounting that, but you know, we we choose to

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take these dips as opportunities, especially with the volatile stocks

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like we're in. You know, when some little biotech in

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the middle of states two drug trials or some little

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you know, government contractor one hundred million cap market cap

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off the radar name, you know, that stock falls thirty

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percent and some kind of thing, and you see the

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CEO and a CFO and a board and so going

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out into that thing, like, we're going to take advantage

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of that. And thanks to the fact that we see

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their trades pretty much real time, we can act quickly

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on that, unlike following buffet or somebody like oh yeah

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he did by the dip. Wish I knew that was

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going on, didn't you know?

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Speaker 4: Hey, so you got some other services?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 1: We have a couple other things we do, one being

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you know, followed these institutional stops. Do you following where

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we see those institutional dollars floid, which is you know,

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what moves the markets. And we do a couple other

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things as well, but by far the most consistent the

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thing we've been doing the log is the best track

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record is following these insiders, and for very very active traders,

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it made more of them. We put out on average,

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like four or five stocks a month. Now they're each

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very they're well researched, they're vetted. It's a full idea.

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We're not risking a lot. I think it still returns

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or produces great returns. But we do have some other services.

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We're taking four or five trades a week, a little

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more active, trying to scalp you know, ten, twelve, fifteen,

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twenty percent returns for those kind of people, but especially

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for paths of investors, I think this insider approach is

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the easiest to follow. It makes the most sense. The

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idea is very logical and sound, and it's it's extremely

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easy to follow and execute. We've got a full for support. Yeah,

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full support staff and all as well. People need to

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call in.

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Speaker 3: And have anyppreciate it too, All right, well, hey, appreciate

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you coming on Ross. I'm glad to be able to

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share my experiences through service. We got a link in

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the show notes to sign up for a webinar.

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Speaker 4: I highly recommend you do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's no guarantees in life, but

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I don't at this point in life my experience, I

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don't get excited over much this having actually experienced it,

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seeing these returns go up, I'm a believer.

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Speaker 4: So take a look. Click the link. Ross.

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Speaker 3: We'll definitely have it back on again, especially if the

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market make some gyrations to get your view on it.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you coming on. We'll talk to you again soon.

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All right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gerry, always going to talk with you.

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