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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no one like Tater Swift. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>one like Tater Swift. She's picking Michael Jacker.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's not picking than Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>She's picking than Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>She ain't gonna have a billion dollar bio pick one year.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing you will.

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<v Speaker 3>She absolutely will.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're underestimating the Swift fans. What is that

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<v Speaker 1>she does like make massive cult fault?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's yeah, but it's not it's not on the

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<v Speaker 4>level of Jackson when they're like he went through the

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<v Speaker 4>trial and it's still like like the little death threats there.

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<v Speaker 4>So it made two sixty seven and that's about her.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think because the reason I'd say this though,

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<v Speaker 4>is because with Jackson with him, because there comes the music,

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<v Speaker 4>but there also comes all the controversy where she doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really have that. So that's what I'm saying. She wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>that movie wouldn't be bigger than Jackson. I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing as Freddy Mercury, right, she wasn't hiding

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<v Speaker 4>that she was gay or not to be like Morbide

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<v Speaker 4>die is.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that'll be the big one copy.

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<v Speaker 2>At the wedding, woman walks out like lively.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try and put a pin in this and

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<v Speaker 1>one day we'll get a biopic on Taylor Swift and

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<v Speaker 1>then do the comparison.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Or sorry, Jackson spans more generations in my opinion where I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think because of I think his music was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's enough like.

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<v Speaker 3>The longevity of his music. Maybe is that what you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't say it's hund percent right because I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a doctor Manhattan type. I think there was a point

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<v Speaker 4>in the world where you could have ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the population love Michael Jackson's music. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's ever been the case with Taylor Swift. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Jackson was. And whatever you want to say about Swift,

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<v Speaker 4>you know she's improved over the years. She does not

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<v Speaker 4>hold a candle on stage what Jackson did for a

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<v Speaker 4>for the body, for the movements.

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<v Speaker 2>For the choreography. That's been always a slight against her.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, she's gotten better, but her movement sometimes very it's

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<v Speaker 4>not the greatest right where Jackson that is like a

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<v Speaker 4>he was like a phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Comparing like hockey to soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like different type.

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<v Speaker 2>Of sports, musicians and pop. They're both musicians and pot

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like but like but like you could say, like Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift like killed it in multiple genres of music, where

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson didn't do that. Yeah, his his bag baby,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the pop star.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't doing country albums as well as.

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<v Speaker 2>Like It's gonna R and B. You know in those

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<v Speaker 2>early years.

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<v Speaker 1>Swift has songs that are R and B like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like songs. Well that's that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's probably Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I am a fan of both absolutely for their music.

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<v Speaker 3>I never watched.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson, so I don't know all the juice I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth wasn't being revealed, so I immediately didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>care about.

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<v Speaker 2>What the dog ontix.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I sorry, there's the doc on network.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't you see Jackson the Verdict? It's all about the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I heard about that, I think on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>or something. But I'm more of a Taylor Swift fan,

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<v Speaker 1>just because more of her music is interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I still love listening to Michael Jackson music, though I

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<v Speaker 1>think at the end of the day, if I speak,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson is probably bigger because of the significance and

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<v Speaker 1>the time, right, like like yeah, like there was no

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<v Speaker 1>one like Michael Jackson before Michael Jackson. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like Taylor Swift, it's it's a different comparison because like,

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<v Speaker 1>like she is the biggest artist in the world by far.

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<v Speaker 1>You try to compare Beyonce to her many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>which was crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, Beyonce is sitting in no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to walk that back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll walk it forward. Depending on what you say here.

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<v Speaker 4>If Beyonce Beyonce, I will say that Swift took that

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<v Speaker 4>crown from Beyonce, but Beyonce was holding that crown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, that's what I's I'd agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not saying right now Beyonce is bigger, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying that while Swift was on the come up,

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<v Speaker 4>and again, look at Hall, look at where all that

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<v Speaker 4>tide was right the whole It's just so funny. Our

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<v Speaker 4>life is like the Kanye you know, greatest album all time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because everybody was like, what Beyonce didn't win because

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<v Speaker 4>she was the shit at that time, right, it was

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<v Speaker 4>like an upset that Taylor Swift won at that time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not saying she didn't deserve because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>put much stock in the Grammys.

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<v Speaker 2>You look like the raw category.

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<v Speaker 3>But for music, right, nobody, No, No, everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Cares about the Oscars, Grammy's dip in every No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're pretty equivalent to I got my issues

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<v Speaker 4>with the Oscars nowadays too, But.

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<v Speaker 2>No, i'd say she took it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to wait.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd have to wait because you got to think about

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<v Speaker 4>all like a different path for her. But Beyonce was

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<v Speaker 4>in Dessie's Child, which was a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Swift is going to drop off, But

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<v Speaker 4>I think I can't judge their careers until Swift is

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<v Speaker 4>in her like late forties and fifties, right, because not

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<v Speaker 4>many people Beyonce's age are still having like massive world

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<v Speaker 4>tours or the singles and the albums that come up

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<v Speaker 4>with sell. Right, that's kind of like a plateau. So

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not saying Swift won't do that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>she will do that. I think she has a very

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<v Speaker 4>big fan base. I think she's very smart with their marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's I'm on too, I'm like right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very much like BVS with her, where I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of people that do overrate her her songs,

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<v Speaker 4>But then I do think there's people that really over

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<v Speaker 4>hate the songs and over haete like her music and

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<v Speaker 4>everything like that. So I'm very much like in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle and the camp. I'm an album album type of guy.

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<v Speaker 4>My era of Tayrar Swift is long gone. It was

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<v Speaker 4>read to nineteen eighty nine, and the rest of the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>is good so far, but like that's that's where I live.

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<v Speaker 3>Lover was pretty good too.

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<v Speaker 2>Lover was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>For a while, I thought that was her best album.

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<v Speaker 4>I circled back to nineteen eighty nine. Actually that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I put my stamp on. But Lover, I think is

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<v Speaker 4>a good all around for sever But what I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say to Can with the Swift thing and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>was the times everything that happened. But and this is

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<v Speaker 4>not just a Swift Nobody nobody has anything like Thriller.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know it's like a meme. Thriller is such

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<v Speaker 2>a Halloween meme.

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<v Speaker 4>But Thriller and that music video, that song that is

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<v Speaker 4>like there, that's like Swift does have a many big

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<v Speaker 4>hit songs, but just thrill, like Thriller alone and that

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<v Speaker 4>everything that came with that music video and that vibe,

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<v Speaker 4>that jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is like a that's like a pulp.

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<v Speaker 4>Culture Mount Rushmore moment, which I don't know Swift has

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<v Speaker 4>one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>The Airs tour could be.

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<v Speaker 4>Talked about, but it's like that's tough because it's a tour, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about a singler.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Minute music video that they played in theaters, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was this big deal and everything, right you know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, all all good points and like just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like yeah, you bring up thriller Like that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have even been my immediate pick for Michael Jackson, Like

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<v Speaker 1>just the idea of like Billy Jean and like what

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<v Speaker 1>that song like, not even just like the content of

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<v Speaker 1>what that song is, but just the manufacturing of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like you already brought up like just his dances,

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<v Speaker 1>like go, look, it's just crazy because nobody was doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and then you see him perform live

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like how does somebody do this? And

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<v Speaker 1>then he just has the vocal range of what he has.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he was basically like engineered as a child to

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<v Speaker 1>be come that right, Like he was abused by his father.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically a perfect shit and he was a perfect singer,

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<v Speaker 1>but like clearly there's many mental things that that came

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, and then there's a whole other bag

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<v Speaker 1>of worms around that character. But it's just it's and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's since passed now, but like, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Taylor Swift is just gonna keep going until

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<v Speaker 1>she's like ninety, Like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just gonna be at the end of the day, I guess. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of how because wasn't he ramping up for

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<v Speaker 3>a tour and.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it actually like his last tour, but I doubt

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<v Speaker 4>it was his last. They always say it's their last

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<v Speaker 4>tour and they make a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was his last album that he put out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of it right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, randomly, one of those songs came on

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<v Speaker 1>my Spotify playlist Chicago that so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard it, man, I'm like, how have I never

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<v Speaker 1>heard this one before? And then I clicked on the

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<v Speaker 1>album and it was released in twenty fourteen, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think he died, well the probably.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie, Okay, I'm not sure about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not maybe, but regardless, it was like, man, this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, like even in like the later albums that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't like the more well known like you Already Hoisted

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<v Speaker 1>with Thriller, Billy Jeans, this Escape there you go, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you s Pups.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that one, that one is.

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<v Speaker 2>That the one when he has like the thing around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like loops and ship around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a wild thing. Yeah, so I get I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the Two Mountains of Don is one. Yeah, Swift

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Michael. Michael's the top tier.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking all from me, teing all the personal stuff out,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's a whole different bag. I'm separating art from

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<v Speaker 4>the artist.

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<v Speaker 3>There's that including who's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>That stuff in the music industry. To find somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>has no skeletons in their.

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<v Speaker 1>Swift right supposedly, if I speak just abusing Travis Kelsey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like that's like what comes out in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just all bruised.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, football, this is your last year.

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<v Speaker 4>No, she's making them still do it, get back out there,

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<v Speaker 4>put my like perking them off.

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<v Speaker 2>Just no kurd Anglers.

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<v Speaker 1>They do like their like their like first game of

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<v Speaker 1>the year and he just comes fucking repelling in on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Which full circle of this cast, that guy Jeff Jarrett

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<v Speaker 4>that was in the few with kurd Angle Tarry Swift

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<v Speaker 4>used to babysit.

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<v Speaker 3>His kids, so you go, holy funk, that's random because they.

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<v Speaker 4>Both lived in Tennessee, so they knew each other, The

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<v Speaker 4>family knew each other and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So there go full circle.
