Speaker 1: You know, there's no one like Tater Swift. There's no
Speaker 1: one like Tater Swift. She's picking Michael Jacker.
Speaker 2: No, she's not picking than Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: She's picking than Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: She ain't gonna have a billion dollar bio pick one year.
Speaker 2: There's nothing you will.
Speaker 3: She absolutely will.
Speaker 1: I think you're underestimating the Swift fans. What is that
Speaker 1: she does like make massive cult fault?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's yeah, but it's not it's not on the
Speaker 4: level of Jackson when they're like he went through the
Speaker 4: trial and it's still like like the little death threats there.
Speaker 4: So it made two sixty seven and that's about her.
Speaker 4: I just think because the reason I'd say this though,
Speaker 4: is because with Jackson with him, because there comes the music,
Speaker 4: but there also comes all the controversy where she doesn't
Speaker 4: really have that. So that's what I'm saying. She wouldn't
Speaker 4: that movie wouldn't be bigger than Jackson. I think there's
Speaker 4: the same thing as Freddy Mercury, right, she wasn't hiding
Speaker 4: that she was gay or not to be like Morbide
Speaker 4: die is.
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be the big one copy.
Speaker 2: At the wedding, woman walks out like lively.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and put a pin in this and
Speaker 1: one day we'll get a biopic on Taylor Swift and
Speaker 1: then do the comparison.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: Or sorry, Jackson spans more generations in my opinion where I.
Speaker 2: Think because of I think his music was. I think
Speaker 2: there's enough like.
Speaker 3: The longevity of his music. Maybe is that what you mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't say it's hund percent right because I'm not
Speaker 4: a doctor Manhattan type. I think there was a point
Speaker 4: in the world where you could have ninety five percent
Speaker 4: of the population love Michael Jackson's music. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's ever been the case with Taylor Swift. I think
Speaker 4: Jackson was. And whatever you want to say about Swift,
Speaker 4: you know she's improved over the years. She does not
Speaker 4: hold a candle on stage what Jackson did for a
Speaker 4: for the body, for the movements.
Speaker 2: For the choreography. That's been always a slight against her.
Speaker 4: Right, she's gotten better, but her movement sometimes very it's
Speaker 4: not the greatest right where Jackson that is like a
Speaker 4: he was like a phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: Comparing like hockey to soccer.
Speaker 3: It's like different type.
Speaker 2: Of sports, musicians and pop. They're both musicians and pot
Speaker 2: they're doing this.
Speaker 1: Like but like but like you could say, like Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift like killed it in multiple genres of music, where
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson didn't do that. Yeah, his his bag baby,
Speaker 1: he was the pop star.
Speaker 3: He wasn't doing country albums as well as.
Speaker 2: Like It's gonna R and B. You know in those
Speaker 2: early years.
Speaker 1: Swift has songs that are R and B like I.
Speaker 2: Feel like songs. Well that's that.
Speaker 3: There's probably Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I am a fan of both absolutely for their music.
Speaker 3: I never watched.
Speaker 1: Jackson, so I don't know all the juice I heard.
Speaker 1: The truth wasn't being revealed, so I immediately didn't really
Speaker 1: care about.
Speaker 2: What the dog ontix.
Speaker 4: But I think I sorry, there's the doc on network.
Speaker 4: Didn't you see Jackson the Verdict? It's all about the trial.
Speaker 1: Oh I heard about that, I think on the radio
Speaker 1: or something. But I'm more of a Taylor Swift fan,
Speaker 1: just because more of her music is interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I still love listening to Michael Jackson music, though I
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, if I speak,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson is probably bigger because of the significance and
Speaker 1: the time, right, like like yeah, like there was no
Speaker 1: one like Michael Jackson before Michael Jackson. I don't think
Speaker 1: whereas like Taylor Swift, it's it's a different comparison because like,
Speaker 1: like she is the biggest artist in the world by far.
Speaker 1: You try to compare Beyonce to her many years ago,
Speaker 1: which was crazy to me.
Speaker 2: But no, Beyonce is sitting in no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: You got to walk that back.
Speaker 3: I'll walk it forward. Depending on what you say here.
Speaker 4: If Beyonce Beyonce, I will say that Swift took that
Speaker 4: crown from Beyonce, but Beyonce was holding that crown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's what I's I'd agree.
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying right now Beyonce is bigger, but
Speaker 4: I'm saying that while Swift was on the come up,
Speaker 4: and again, look at Hall, look at where all that
Speaker 4: tide was right the whole It's just so funny. Our
Speaker 4: life is like the Kanye you know, greatest album all time.
Speaker 4: That's because everybody was like, what Beyonce didn't win because
Speaker 4: she was the shit at that time, right, it was
Speaker 4: like an upset that Taylor Swift won at that time,
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying she didn't deserve because I don't
Speaker 4: put much stock in the Grammys.
Speaker 2: You look like the raw category.
Speaker 3: But for music, right, nobody, No, No, everyone.
Speaker 2: Cares about the Oscars, Grammy's dip in every No.
Speaker 4: I think they're pretty equivalent to I got my issues
Speaker 4: with the Oscars nowadays too, But.
Speaker 2: No, i'd say she took it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd have to wait.
Speaker 4: I'd have to wait because you got to think about
Speaker 4: all like a different path for her. But Beyonce was
Speaker 4: in Dessie's Child, which was a huge deal.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I don't think Swift is going to drop off, But
Speaker 4: I think I can't judge their careers until Swift is
Speaker 4: in her like late forties and fifties, right, because not
Speaker 4: many people Beyonce's age are still having like massive world
Speaker 4: tours or the singles and the albums that come up
Speaker 4: with sell. Right, that's kind of like a plateau. So
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying Swift won't do that. I think
Speaker 4: she will do that. I think she has a very
Speaker 4: big fan base. I think she's very smart with their marketing.
Speaker 2: I think there's I'm on too, I'm like right in
Speaker 2: the middle.
Speaker 4: I'm very much like BVS with her, where I think
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that do overrate her her songs,
Speaker 4: But then I do think there's people that really over
Speaker 4: hate the songs and over haete like her music and
Speaker 4: everything like that. So I'm very much like in the
Speaker 4: middle and the camp. I'm an album album type of guy.
Speaker 4: My era of Tayrar Swift is long gone. It was
Speaker 4: read to nineteen eighty nine, and the rest of the stuff
Speaker 4: is good so far, but like that's that's where I live.
Speaker 3: Lover was pretty good too.
Speaker 2: Lover was fantastic.
Speaker 4: For a while, I thought that was her best album.
Speaker 4: I circled back to nineteen eighty nine. Actually that's what
Speaker 4: I put my stamp on. But Lover, I think is
Speaker 4: a good all around for sever But what I was
Speaker 4: gonna say to Can with the Swift thing and obviously
Speaker 4: was the times everything that happened. But and this is
Speaker 4: not just a Swift Nobody nobody has anything like Thriller.
Speaker 2: And I know it's like a meme. Thriller is such
Speaker 2: a Halloween meme.
Speaker 4: But Thriller and that music video, that song that is
Speaker 4: like there, that's like Swift does have a many big
Speaker 4: hit songs, but just thrill, like Thriller alone and that
Speaker 4: everything that came with that music video and that vibe,
Speaker 4: that jacket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like a that's like a pulp.
Speaker 4: Culture Mount Rushmore moment, which I don't know Swift has
Speaker 4: one of those.
Speaker 2: The Airs tour could be.
Speaker 4: Talked about, but it's like that's tough because it's a tour, right,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about a singler.
Speaker 2: Look at this fifteen.
Speaker 4: Minute music video that they played in theaters, and it
Speaker 4: was this big deal and everything, right you know.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, all all good points and like just.
Speaker 1: Like like yeah, you bring up thriller Like that wouldn't
Speaker 1: have even been my immediate pick for Michael Jackson, Like
Speaker 1: just the idea of like Billy Jean and like what
Speaker 1: that song like, not even just like the content of
Speaker 1: what that song is, but just the manufacturing of it.
Speaker 1: And then like you already brought up like just his dances,
Speaker 1: like go, look, it's just crazy because nobody was doing
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then you see him perform live
Speaker 1: and it's just like how does somebody do this? And
Speaker 1: then he just has the vocal range of what he has.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was basically like engineered as a child to
Speaker 1: be come that right, Like he was abused by his father.
Speaker 1: Basically a perfect shit and he was a perfect singer,
Speaker 1: but like clearly there's many mental things that that came
Speaker 1: out of it, and then there's a whole other bag
Speaker 1: of worms around that character. But it's just it's and
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's since passed now, but like, man, I.
Speaker 3: Think, I think.
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Swift is just gonna keep going until
Speaker 1: she's like ninety, Like it's.
Speaker 3: Just gonna be at the end of the day, I guess. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of how because wasn't he ramping up for
Speaker 3: a tour and.
Speaker 4: Well it actually like his last tour, but I doubt
Speaker 4: it was his last. They always say it's their last
Speaker 4: tour and they make a bunch of money.
Speaker 2: And then I think it.
Speaker 3: Was his last album that he put out.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it right now, but
Speaker 1: I just like, randomly, one of those songs came on
Speaker 1: my Spotify playlist Chicago that so I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've heard it, man, I'm like, how have I never
Speaker 1: heard this one before? And then I clicked on the
Speaker 1: album and it was released in twenty fourteen, which I
Speaker 1: think he died, well the probably.
Speaker 2: The movie, Okay, I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 1: Maybe not maybe, but regardless, it was like, man, this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy, like even in like the later albums that
Speaker 1: aren't like the more well known like you Already Hoisted
Speaker 1: with Thriller, Billy Jeans, this Escape there you go, thank
Speaker 1: you s Pups.
Speaker 3: Yeah that one, that one is.
Speaker 2: That the one when he has like the thing around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like loops and ship around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a wild thing. Yeah, so I get I
Speaker 2: guess the Two Mountains of Don is one. Yeah, Swift
Speaker 2: isn't Michael. Michael's the top tier.
Speaker 4: Taking all from me, teing all the personal stuff out,
Speaker 4: because that's a whole different bag. I'm separating art from
Speaker 4: the artist.
Speaker 3: There's that including who's your favorite?
Speaker 2: That stuff in the music industry. To find somebody that
Speaker 2: has no skeletons in their.
Speaker 1: Swift right supposedly, if I speak just abusing Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: that's like that's like what comes out in a couple
Speaker 1: of years.
Speaker 3: He's just all bruised.
Speaker 2: Yeah, football, this is your last year.
Speaker 4: No, she's making them still do it, get back out there,
Speaker 4: put my like perking them off.
Speaker 2: Just no kurd Anglers.
Speaker 1: They do like their like their like first game of
Speaker 1: the year and he just comes fucking repelling in on the.
Speaker 4: Which full circle of this cast, that guy Jeff Jarrett
Speaker 4: that was in the few with kurd Angle Tarry Swift
Speaker 4: used to babysit.
Speaker 3: His kids, so you go, holy funk, that's random because they.
Speaker 4: Both lived in Tennessee, so they knew each other, The
Speaker 4: family knew each other and stuff.
Speaker 2: So there go full circle.