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got a fantastic show for you. Why don't we get

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to my co host and the rest of the star

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second edition of Cougar Sports as welcome in first and

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foremost the hammer Time Show, Brett Hammer, What's up Hammertime?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw the Bear Bachmeyer interview

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on Sports Center last night, but apparently there were some

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wild WWE matches in the Vachmeier household growing up. They

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would put a championship ladder hanging from the fan are

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a melt akro, the man climb a b ladder. Tiger

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its mount omit. So we will be there will be

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a little bit of mention of wwup show, and it's

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all because Bear Backmer started it. I know you don't

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like it, but if Bear said, and I think it's

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I think we have to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: It's like we interviewed Bear Tiger Hay in the lead

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up to his first start, and every single one of

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and then they would engage in all manner of wrestling

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scout and then they.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it took going off the top rope. It was wild.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy in the Bachmar home and once again

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Bear was ash in the post game.

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Speaker 3: We listened to it earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: I asked him like, hey, how do you stay level

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headed when all of the hype is surrounding you? And

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He's like, look, it's it's just I've said it a lot.

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I'll say it again. It's how I was raised, you know,

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It's how I was raised. He's got a military father

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and then he's got a Asian mother that probably gave

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a little bit of corporal punishment from now and now

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they I think they said the wooden spoon. He had

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had the wooden spoon, so uh, he is of tight

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descent uh and lineage. So those two things combined and

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then having a bunch of brothers in the home sound

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It was a unique upbringing, no doubt about it. And

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look all of us growing up. I think at one

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of a brother, a sister, a neighbor, somebody, right, Uh,

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and so every one of us have tried that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Uh. So don't don't miss it. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna delve into all the knooks of Gretti's all

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the news and it's coming out of Brigham today. Also,

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Speaker 1: I personally, I'm on Ben's side. I'm not really a

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fan of WWE. I've never really gotten into it. But

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the b yu wwet belt. If Bear Bachmeyer is a

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huge fan, does that mean does that add to the

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need to buy one for the set?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 3: I try.

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Speaker 4: I submitted an expense report and it was denied, So

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Speaker 3: Andrew. Could I get the Crumble THEEO to go another?

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Speaker 2: I could probably get a free belt from Salt City Swaggering. Yeah,

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they do some sweet one. I'll put in a request

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not a fan of WWE, but the

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belts are. You can't argue with the belt.

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Speaker 4: And I did the like if I buy that belt,

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because I was like, when else am I going to

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There's no time to do it. There's nowhere and it's going

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to go in our home. And I was like, okay,

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but what if I brought it to the game. She's like,

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there's no way you could bring that to the game.

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but applaud them because that was impressive.

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Speaker 3: So now I want to can you imagine how sweet

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Speaker 4: You just walk around carrying this giant a belt with

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the BYU Cougar on it.

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Speaker 3: Man, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Let's also welcome in Martin Kelly to the show Martin,

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how the heck are you buddy?

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Speaker 4: Not doing too bad?

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Speaker 3: Not doing too bad?

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Speaker 4: Let's see if you know, continuing this WWE talk, let's

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see if the you know by you can earn themselves

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a championship run or some type of you know down

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the road. Here at the end of this football season,

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they gotta key winning games.

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Speaker 3: Gotta keep on winning games.

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Speaker 2: And one of my key questions of the day chiming

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on Twitter at cridel Benjamin you can follow us at

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esp and the fan as well, pollard A what will

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By's record be in the next five games?

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Speaker 3: And why this is?

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Speaker 2: This is the gauntlet that we were fearful of. You

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got the win that you felt was most important in

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the gauntlet? Right if if you gave a BYU fan

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a choice of beating Utah and losing four five straight

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after that, or losing the Utah and only being a

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one lost team UH towards the end of the year

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and making it into early I wonder how many BYU.

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Speaker 3: Fans would have taken would have taken.

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Speaker 2: The UH the all the other wins over a Utah loss?

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Speaker 3: Would you take the inversion?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What would you do there?

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Speaker 2: Because I think That's a tough dilemma for any BYU fan,

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out up the next six games in this gauntlet.

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Speaker 4: My brother in law at the game the other day

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said I would take going one at eleven as long

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as it means.

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Speaker 3: That we beat Utah, And I'm like, look, I understand that.

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Speaker 4: Him here for that, and now we're sitting in a

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I was just watching back yesterday PFF College are good

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for Max Shadwick.

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Speaker 3: They did a preview for this BOYU.

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Speaker 4: I was they came, which I'm sure we'll play for

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some sound later on in the week, but I was

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reminded by Max Chadwick, do you guys remember what the

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preseason win total was for this team? Six and a

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half points. We have already surpassed the preseason win total.

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People debating whether or not BYU was going.

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Speaker 2: Four and a half, So you went from four and

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a half to six and a half. The most underrated

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team in college football. We have three objective data points.

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four and a half and six and a half. You

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have also the aggregated data of AP polls.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, my most underrated, the most underrated college football

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team in the AP pole era is BYU. No other

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team started outside the top twenty five and entered into

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the top twenty five than BYU.

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Speaker 3: And that's what's insane.

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Speaker 2: So and look like, listen to the anlysts, the punnits

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that continue to not buy into who BYU is. And

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the SID after this game versus U, tom like, look like,

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why is it that BYU is so underrated? Why is

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it that no one really is ever willing to really

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go out on it on a legend and pick BYU

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in the preseason? And and some of it has to

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do in the modern era of like recruiting rankings. Right

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when two four seven and rivals UH, they they rank

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BYU recruits. Once the commit commits to BYU or the

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prospect commits to BYU, their rating goes down.

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Speaker 3: Their rating doesn't continue to elevate.

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Speaker 2: Right, The only prospects that continue to elevate in their

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status are those that are choosing not to serve missions,

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and they allow for like the final five or the

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final three to play it out and then they finally

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make it announcement on live television. Right, they make out with

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all of their schools there because there's a pr propaganda piece.

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Speaker 3: And all that.

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Speaker 2: But if they're serving a mission and they and they

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commit early, they have a precipitous drop in their recruiting rate.

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more to it than just the recruiting ranking BYU. We've

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had College Football Matrix on our show Dave Bar two

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and he discusses that BYU's coaching staff just continues to

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out produce per their talent, yes, but also per their resources,

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their resources allocated. Why is that, I'm gonna say it's

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the BYU culture. It's the LDS way. That is the

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culture that we have here. Look at the socioeconomic status

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right now in the state of Utah, and it's trickling

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down into a football program that can receive all those

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resources and allocate them judiciously and strategically in order to

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maximize wins on the football field on the basketball court.

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Speaker 1: Well, in my opinion, I think it comes down to

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think I think it comes down to Tom Holmo and

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the job he did as the athletic director. One of

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his focuses as the athletic director, and he said this

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was stability. And he did a good job of hiring

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good coaches and making it a stable situation for them,

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allowing them to actually do their job, and so they

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were able to coach up this talent and maybe.

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Speaker 3: Overperform in some instances. Like think about this, Dave Rose.

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Speaker 1: I think was it twenty seasons at BYU, and nineteen

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of them were twenty win seasons? He had one. I

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think he only had one season under twenty wins. That

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level of stability there is almost unheard of anywhere across

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Speaker 3: His final season nineteen and thirteen exactly. And so.

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Speaker 2: I think, sorry, that was a twenty eighteen nineteen when

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he had the nineteen win season.

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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to Tom Holmo did a

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great job of setting things up administratively to make it

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a stable athletic department and and that allowed the culture

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to grow, and that allowed teams to overperform.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's uh, it's a great day to be a Cougar.

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have Rondo Felberg and much much more in Cougar bytes

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in commentary. Don't miss it, bear Bachmeer sound. You're listening

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Speaker 3: Yes, Ben the fan.

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Speaker 3: Utah dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Roderick, your by offensive coordinator, or addressed the media yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: How would you evaluate the performance of your offense on

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Saturday night versus Utah.

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Speaker 6: Without all week?

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Speaker 5: We had two weeks in a row where we were

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negative in the turnover margin, and we knew we had

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to do better this game. And I was really proud

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of our team for that. And then I thought we

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played physical. I thought we were especially in the fourth quarter.

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And I thought Very did a nice job taking care

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of the ball and was giving us small sparking the

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run game too.

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Speaker 3: But turnovers matter.

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Speaker 2: It's cliche to discuss every single game, but you gotta

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win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 3: And even that's what's so unique, right.

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Speaker 2: We talked about sustainability even last year in twenty twenty four,

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even I would say twenty twenty three. Do you remember

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that in twenty twenty three, b while you started the

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season off pretty nicely, do you guys remember the two

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thousand and twenty three season by chance and what happened

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and the storylines that surrounded the.

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Speaker 3: First year of the Big Twelve. Started out five and two.

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Speaker 1: We had, I mean, we had an sec road win

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and and we had a game against Kansas where we

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felt like we could have won.

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Speaker 3: We just had to turnovers that got back for six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the Parker Kingston hit.

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Speaker 3: That was a big one.

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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm convinced that if Aiden Robbins had been healthy,

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if he hadn't tried, if he hadn't tried playing with

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broken ribs at the beginning of the year, if he'd

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been healthy that year, b YU actually would have been

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a pretty decent team and he would he would have

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been drafted, He would be on an NFL roster right now.

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Speaker 2: It would have helped. It would have helped it for

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him to be healthy, be strong, and be able to

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to to you know, around game game eight, to be

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able to produce.

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Speaker 3: At a high level.

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Speaker 2: Byu went on a on a losing streak, big losing Streek, Texas,

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West Virginia, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State the last two games. Though,

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you saw what Byu could be when maybe healthy, when

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blocking better, when schematically they were more aligned and you

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almost beat two top twenty five teams ten digit wins

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teams Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. So like, you look at

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what b what he's done in the Big twelve through

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three years, and I know they lost some big games

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in that first year, but they've always had the potential

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to compete. They've always had the potential to do what

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they're doing right now, and we saw that even in

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twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: At any rate.

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Speaker 2: I look at turnover margin and how turnover margin was

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definitely a part of and he's always a part of

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BYU football in winning games, especially rivalry games, and they

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were plus two in the turnover margin game versus the youth.

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Speaker 3: So they had to fix it.

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Speaker 2: They fixed it in the game that for many Boa

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fans mattered the most.

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Speaker 3: Now, is there any thought on load managed with L J. Mortar?

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Do you think he can continue to carry it at

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this pace?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're definitely being smart with him. In practice.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't get hit at all, really, but yeah, the

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load of carries he's getting right now is kind of

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what I was envisioned before the season, even if even

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I wasn't out Bears getting a few more than I

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would like at times, but he's so good at it

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it's hard not to use him.

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Speaker 6: So we're trying to manage that as well as we can.

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But uh, yeah, LJ, his practice week is pretty light.

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Speaker 5: He's a veteran player who knows the offense really well,

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so it's it's mostly just game plan details that he

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needs to be able to play well on Saturdays.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, look, I mean, how often do you see

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in the NFL where these these running backs that you

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pick up on your fantasy team they're like questionable all

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the way up to kick off because they like got

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like minimal practice time in that's it.

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Speaker 3: They're they're on the bike, they're they're they're in the pool, they're.

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Speaker 2: On the field, but they're not really doing anything of

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import right, they're just resting, staying healthy prior to kickoff,

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prior to Sunday.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what we're seeing with LJ and the

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load management.

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Speaker 2: Why, because he's got one hundred and twenty seven carries,

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he's already surpassed his total yards from last last year

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seven hundred and seventy four. He's at six point one

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yards per carry, four touchdowns, and he's also received the

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ball eleven times eighty two yards seven point five yards

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per reception. So yeah, the load is heavy, the burden

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is heavy, but this is all a part of it.

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This is all a part of the game plan. This

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is what a rod wanted to distribute to his bell

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cow back. Go back and look at what Tyler als

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Year did his junior year, what Jamal Williams was doing

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his junior season.

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Speaker 3: Look at guys like Harvey Yunga.

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Speaker 2: The touches that they are getting are essentially equivalent or

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the touches that LJ is getting or equivalent to a

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bell cow and NFL running back. And quite honestly, the

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NFL wants to see durability. The NFL wants to see

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consecutive games of twenty plus touches running backs blocking in

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the pass, pro.

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Speaker 3: Catching the ball in the back.

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Speaker 2: That they're looking for an all purpose back and every

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down back. That's the most valuable back in the NFL.

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And they want to see that first and foremost because

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they got they got scat backs that can come in

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and replace it for third down if needed. But they

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want to see the full fledged arsenal of your skill set.

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And that's what LJ is showcasing this year every single game.

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Speaker 4: The irony with using the term load management is that

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it absolutely does not apply to LJ, because LJ has

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earned the right to sit out a couple of days

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because of what.

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Speaker 3: He does in games.

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Speaker 4: Whereas NBA players they just get tired, so they don't.

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They just they're not feeling up to it. It's a

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little too much for him.

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Speaker 3: LJ.

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Speaker 4: It's not too much for him. He's earned the right.

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country in rush yards, and then in terms of he's

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fourth among power for running backs in terms of carries.

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Speaker 3: So there are.

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Speaker 4: Very few people in college football who are carrying it

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as much in carrying it as well as LJ Martin.

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I did think it was interesting that Aaron Roddricks said

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that this is kind of what he envisioned and already

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expected LJ would carry the ball at this clip preseason.

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I'm grabbling with whether or not I believe that.

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Speaker 3: I think I do.

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Speaker 4: But also there's no way that a rod expected to

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run Sione Mola this little because I think they thought

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that they would have him. I did think the nugget

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about Bear Bachmeier was really interesting, where he's like Bear's

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running it more than we want him to.

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Speaker 3: But also the success dictates what are we gonna do.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna ask him to stop running the ball because

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guess what, A, you can't and B if you do,

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you take away probably the game winning touchdown against Utah.

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You just can't afford to run Bear Bachmeyer any less. Unfortunately,

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given the circumstances that you have, and I don't think

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that you'd want to.

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Speaker 1: Well go ahead to ap well, and you mentioned Lj's

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fourth in the country. He's second among power for running

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backs correct in yards and so I guess there hasn't

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been a ton of buzz. But where does does he

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enter the Doak Walker Award watch list?

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Speaker 3: Here? Is he? Is he?

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Speaker 4: I do believe he was on the mid season award

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watch Do we think he's a finalist? Well, I mean,

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I think you got to continue to sustain it, right

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if he if he keeps the pace, he'll be in

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that conversation. Does he have the total touchdown that you're

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looking for? Does he have the god enothers maybe you're

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looking for?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, But he's definitely gonna be in the

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mix and should be being in a power conference and

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doing what he's doing versus the competition that that is

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currently being fielded before him.

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Speaker 4: Yardage and carries, he's doing really well. The only argument

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that will hurt him in the Doak Walker Award is

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bear Bachmeyer because meer Bachmar unfortunately takes a lot of

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those touchdowns when they get down to the four or

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five yard line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little unfortunate. But if you're voting on

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the award and you really know ball, you understand it's

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not because LJ can't. It's just because they have a

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two headed monster, and typically LJ is getting them in

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position to score those touchdowns. So that's probably the only

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place where the argument may be used against him. But

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he certainly has the carry, and he certainly has the wins,

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and he certainly has the yardage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So as far as touches are concerned, right now, LJ

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is averaging eighteen carries per game when you include the

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Portland State game and nineteen points. I mean, it's a

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hair under twenty touches per game with receptions included. You

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can throw in another ten to probably fifteen snaps per

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game in which he's blocking, and so there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of wear and tear on him, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But he's he's had to His one focus this offseason,

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apart from getting bigger, faster, stronger, was his pass pro

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and he showcased fat ability thus far his effectiveness in

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the past pro. All right, let's move on Aaron Roderick.

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What's the depth chart like behind Preston Rex right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we still believe in Jovessa. I mean, Jovessa did

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not get put. You know, just because he made one

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mistake is not why he's not playing. Is Preston had

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earned the opportunity prior to that, and injuries had kind

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of held him back. But we have a lot of

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belief in Jovesa and Enichnawaheen is a good player too.

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Speaker 2: And Tercellin that rhetoric from a Rod I'm gonna hold

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because and here's why I think what he's saying is

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true in that they have future belief in Joe Vessa

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to become something.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're comfortable using him this week. I

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don't know where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: Like, I put a lot of stock in a lot

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of things that Aaron Roderick has to say, and I've

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said this a lot like what a rod doesn't waste words,

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so when he says something, it's because he means it.

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He's not out there to just give you coach talk

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or give the media a quote. Aaron Rodricks says exactly

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what he's thinking. I'm sure there was other consideration, and

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I do believe the fact about Preston Rex having earned

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the opportunity beforehand.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that to be true because we saw

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it in fall camps.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: We saw presson number twelve getting reps.

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Speaker 2: Side by side or even ahead of Joe Vessa in

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fall camp before he sustained a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 4: Sure, However, that doesn't mean that both things can't be true.

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And That's where I'm at with this. I believe Preston

478
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,880
Rex earned that opportunity. I also believe that ever since

479
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Joe Vessa fumbled the football, he hasn't touched the football

480
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since now. I think part of it, Honestly, when when

481
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:04,599
he chirps up and he says yes yes to answer

482
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:08,160
the question that there is depth, I don't think they

483
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,640
really care about depth, and not in a way of

484
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:13,000
we don't believe Preston or Jovesa can do it.

485
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Speaker 3: I think that that's just not a priority for them.

486
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Speaker 4: I truly think a Rod is good with We have

487
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,279
Bear and we have LJ. They're a two headed monster.

488
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We don't need anybody else. And we've heard FeSi say

489
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a similar thing. It's like, yeah, we have depth, we

490
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,880
don't need to use it. I'm happy with the guys

491
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who are starting, who are taking up most of our catches.

492
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,839
I wonder if a Rod is similar in his belief

493
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,160
in the running back room, which is I have two

494
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running backs. One of them happens to be my quarterback.

495
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But I don't fully feel like that I need to

496
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go to Jovesa or to Preston because I'm happy with

497
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what I've got. And so I think when we as

498
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,839
the media talk about this running back depth, I don't

499
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:56,160
think a Rod is concerned about it in the same

500
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way that we are, because he sees it differently.

501
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Speaker 3: Almost twelve rushes.

502
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Speaker 2: Per game from Bear Bachmeyer, by the way, eleven point seven.

503
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,400
He's averaging fifty one point three yards per game, four

504
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,160
point four yards per carry, eight total touchdowns. That's one

505
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,880
rushing touchdown per game, a little over one touchdown per game,

506
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,079
and a long of twenty two. His longest rush game

507
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versus the University of Utah.

508
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Speaker 3: What a tote? What a tot.

509
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Speaker 4: That's why he's.

510
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: The goat, that goat. He's he's good, he's good.

511
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: I won't go as far as the saying goat, but

512
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240
he is the right handed Tim Tebow, which puts him

513
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,359
in and into our lofty expectations.

514
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Speaker 1: I'll say, though, he's doing very nicely on like everyone's

515
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,359
while like creeps into my mind is like, what's the

516
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,920
likelihood that Bear could actually catch Max's wind total? And

517
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you know, if you're looking at where we're at right now, and.

518
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Speaker 3: Dare, don't you dare talk about win totals in front

519
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:50,960
of him?

520
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Speaker 1: If he stays four years, Max only played three, that's true,

521
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:56,799
I don't know he could break it.

522
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Speaker 3: I what I want to know is in about don't

523
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you dare blasphemy?

524
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Speaker 4: No, I'm We'll have to do the research because I

525
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,039
think it would be hard to just pull this number

526
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,960
up straight. I'd love to know what the highest average

527
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,799
rushing yards for a quarterback is at BUYU and wear

528
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,920
Bear's numbers right now?

529
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: You got to, yeah, Steve, taste him, and then Steve okay, yeah,

530
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880
and then Riley Riley Nelson probably after that when he

531
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,359
was running the ball one last sound bye before we

532
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,960
go to break Aaron Roderick. What makes Bear so effective

533
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:32,960
in the QB run game, Well, he.

534
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Speaker 6: Has he has really good vision. He's faster than you think,

535
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,400
and he's he's very physical. He runs, he runs behind

536
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,039
his pads, and.

537
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Speaker 5: He's two hundred and thirty two thirty five pounds, so

538
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:44,039
he's just a low to bring down.

539
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 6: And he's just very instinctive. He's he sees the game.

540
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is very instinctive. Indeed, like he's got his vision.

541
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,799
I bet you if you if you tested his vision,

542
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:03,319
I bet you he's got like, you know, it's better

543
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,039
than twenty twenty vision. I would say it's like twenty

544
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,440
thirteen visions. So most of you that you know, can

545
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:17,079
see something at thirteen feet right, ABCDEFG whatever that you

546
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440
know that the alphabet in front of you, He's seeing

547
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,720
it from probably twenty.

548
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: Feet just as clearly. And because.

549
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: You can see him navigate potential contact in such a

550
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,359
smooth and and calculated manner, you know what I mean.

551
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: He just flows and he sees things.

552
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: Happen before they do, and that's why he's able to

553
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,119
have the air bear leap right, That's why he's but

554
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,759
he had multiple like he avoided contact on his lower

555
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,400
half early in the game with Jackson Benny going low.

556
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:57,880
But then on that twenty two yard keeper he actually

557
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920
I think he may have elevated or did a little

558
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,079
hop jump like twice on that a little jump stop

559
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,720
cut and then also just like a mini air bare lead.

560
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,640
He's seeing things in a way that he's It's hard

561
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,400
to describe, is what I'm getting at.

562
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,799
Speaker 1: It did feel like the game was slow for him

563
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,960
at in this Utah game.

564
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a combination of obviously his vision and

565
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,720
his neuro muscular athleticism, like his coordination. But man, he's

566
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,200
good at it, no doubt about it. That's why a

567
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,640
Rod keeps running.

568
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: Him because he's brilliant. He's brilliant. He's brillian brilliant, I say, brilliant.

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Let's go to break.

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side as well as Brett always bring in the hammer

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Hammer time show getta get into our question of the day. Guys,

612
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,440
how we feel about the next five games? Now that

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PYU is seven to zero and we have no more tears?

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How we feel about the next five games? What will

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BYU's record be on the road versus Iowa State, get

616
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a bye week, and then on the road versus Texas

617
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Tech TCU at home, Cincinnati on the road, UCF at home.

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Speaker 3: This is a gon limb. This is a tough one.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a very difficult stretch for BYU football.

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Speaker 3: Five and No.

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Speaker 2: Four one, three and two, two and three or worse

622
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,480
ready a stand right always bringing the hammer.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're one game into the stretch that one

624
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:13,119
Aaron Rodericks called the toughest one in BAU football history,

625
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,039
and I would argue that you could make the argument

626
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,559
to the to me that Utah was the toughest game

627
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
on that stretch because of the rivalry component. I don't

628
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000
know that Utah is better than Texas Tech, but I

629
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think when you add in that component, you could make

630
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,559
that argument that Utah may have been the toughest one.

631
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480
That certainly doesn't make the rest of the schedule easy, though.

632
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,799
Everyone that BYU will play for the rest of the

633
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:39,319
season other than UCF is in the top six teams

634
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,519
of the Big twelve standings right now, so they really

635
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,519
have their work cut out for them. My biggest question

636
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:50,160
with Texas Tech is who's going to be their quarterback.

637
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,519
Is Baron Morton gonna play because it sounds like he

638
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,319
may not play this week, and it sounds like there's

639
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,000
a chance Will Hammon will play. And if Will Hammond plays,

640
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,640
then my question is what version of Will Hammond are

641
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,599
we getting? Are we getting Utah Will Hammond or are

642
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:07,000
we getting Arizona State Will Hammond who was not lights

643
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,279
out as he was at that Utah game. Some of

644
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,880
these games or must win because you need to be

645
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
able to break the type, be able to beat the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 3: Iowa State.

647
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,839
Speaker 4: Actually, given where they're at right now, you could lose

648
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,920
to Iowa State and not have an issue because you

649
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,079
don't need a tiebreaker against them as of now because

650
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,119
they have two losses. It's gonna be really interesting to

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
see how this thing plays out because we don't know

652
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,680
what version of Iowa State we're getting because we saw

653
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Iowa State through the first few games of the season

654
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,200
and they looked unbeatable and then they lose their two

655
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,000
corners and Cincinnati says.

656
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,039
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna throw all day long on.

657
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,519
Speaker 4: You guys in this s Iowa State defense hasn't looked

658
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,640
the same. There's a version of this where by you

659
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,720
can easily crank through these next few games. But it

660
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,880
just depends on what version of these teams we're getting,

661
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,799
and you could easily get the bearst or you could

662
00:32:58,839 --> 00:32:59,799
easily get their worst.

663
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

664
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:06,519
Speaker 1: For me, I feel better than I did at the

665
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:10,279
beginning of the season, and I'm gonna say that because

666
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,519
I personally I've never I haven't been high on Iowa

667
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:19,720
State all year because I look, people have been talking

668
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,160
about the one score stat for BYU and how would

669
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,799
they you know, the.

670
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,799
Speaker 3: Regression to the mean.

671
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Iowa State was six and one last year in one

672
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,920
score games, but nobody talked about that with Iowa State

673
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:36,559
and Iowa State started off the exact same way with

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00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,559
one score games, but the competition was not great.

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Speaker 3: Kansas State we thought they were. Turns out they're not.

676
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:48,599
Speaker 1: Arkansas State not great, uh, and so they were squeaking

677
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,440
by in. Iowa is Iowa They're basically the same team

678
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,400
every year. So I haven't been terribly high on Iowa State.

679
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,720
I think BYU can beat them because well, I think

680
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,079
he's a better team, and I think Iowa State is

681
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,359
way less healthy than BYU is. They are getting their

682
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,079
kicker back, which is big news, you know, special teams

683
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,199
can't underrate that. Sounds like they might be getting their

684
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,239
star defensive tackle back this week, but the corner situation

685
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:19,840
has not been fixed. Texas Tech. Again, it comes down

686
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to the quarterback that place. I think by that time

687
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Baron Morton will be back. I think he's day to

688
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,599
day right now. And then TCU is worse than I

689
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,519
thought they would be. I thought TCU was gonna be

690
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:32,400
a lot better. I'm a big Josh Hoover guy. I

691
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,639
think he's really good, but I just don't think he

692
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,800
has the surrounding cast and I don't think that defense

693
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,519
really supports him well. But Cincinnati's a lot better than

694
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,320
we all thought. And I think UCF is right where

695
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,360
you know, we thought they would be. They're not great,

696
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,760
They're just they're kind of there. And so I think

697
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,639
I think, personally, if I'm being optimistic, I think BA

698
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,840
can go four and one and three.

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00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: Into it worst.

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Speaker 2: Right now, the analytics per ESPNFPI has EYU going ten

701
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,800
and two. Okay, this season. Two losses would be the

702
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,559
Texas Tech and right I can't believe this. UCF is

703
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:15,840
who they're predicting right now to lose two. So those

704
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,119
are the two losses, but honestly, the two losses could.

705
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Come from anywhere.

706
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Like all of these teams are good and BYU is beatable.

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00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 3: They just find a way to win.

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00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,199
Speaker 2: They are a complimentary football team that finds ways to win. Okay,

709
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,840
even when for Kyle Whittingham, they're out gained, out rushed, out,

710
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,320
first down all those things. They win in the turnover margin.

711
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:45,599
They they create short fields for their offense. They find

712
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,679
a way to convert on third and third and ten

713
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,960
and rumble for a twenty two yard score with their

714
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,559
six two, two hundred and thirty five pounds quarterback running back,

715
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,320
quarterback Tim Tebow Right.

716
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,519
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Ben Kyle Whittingham, according to him, they

717
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,599
had four hundred and seventy yards to nothing.

718
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: They won twenty one nothing because they're not focused on

719
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:06,400
what the other team.

720
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 2: Did, no doubt about it. He doesn't even do scatter reports. Yeah,

721
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,079
just focused on us this week.

722
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: He was just focused on them, and as far as

723
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,039
he's considered as a twenty one nothing dub.

724
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: That's a win. All right.

725
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the sound cougardation chiming on that

726
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,119
pole of a day we were talking about l J.

727
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: Martin Bear bachmar let's get to number five. Where does

728
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:24,920
l J.

729
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: Martin rank and pass protection compared to other backs that

730
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,440
you've had at BYU.

731
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,199
Speaker 5: He is doing a really good job. I don't know

732
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,559
how to rank him, but much better than a year ago.

733
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,119
In fact, I thought he had a very good pass protection.

734
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 6: Game against the Uths.

735
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Speaker 5: I mean we were We had to mix up our

736
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,239
protections a lot in that game. Last year, our quarterback

737
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,119
got hit a lot, and this year we were very

738
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:47,719
intense to.

739
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Speaker 6: Not allow that to happen.

740
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 5: You know, they get most of their turnovers from getting

741
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,559
after the quarterback. They get you in, they stop the run,

742
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:55,840
they get you in third and long, and.

743
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,679
Speaker 6: Then they get after the QB.

744
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: And this hits on the QB often turn into turnovers,

745
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,159
sacks and interceptions.

746
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: Things like that.

747
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: So LJ had a huge role in in that and

748
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,159
I thought we did a solid job.

749
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 6: Wasn't perfect, but we did. We did a good job.

750
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: Protecting protecting them.

751
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,079
Speaker 2: Lj's improving and showed very well and proficient in the

752
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,239
past pro game versus the Utes. Now since last since

753
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,199
the last Iowa State game a Rod, this team hasn't

754
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,360
lost a game by more than one score.

755
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: Was that a pivotal moment for this BYU team in

756
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,360
twenty twenty three.

757
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a humbling loss. I mean they got

758
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,679
after us from the first play of the game. I

759
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:36,559
mean we fumbled the opening kickoff and it went all

760
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:37,400
downhill from there.

761
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 6: And you know, Iowa States a program that I respect

762
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:41,840
a lot.

763
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,159
Speaker 5: I've looked to them as a program that we felt

764
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,440
like we could be like them. You know, they were

765
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000
they were good before we were in this conference, and

766
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,559
you know, they played with a lot of discipline and toughness.

767
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,440
They're a big team like we are. On offense, they

768
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,079
run the ball and and they're they're very balanced. They

769
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,000
can throw it down and run it Defensively, they're tough

770
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,159
and physical. So I think it's a program that we've

771
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,440
kind of looked to like, Hey, there's that's someone to

772
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,760
emulate and try to you know, we're not. We do

773
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,519
different things than them, but we respect them a.

774
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Lot much respect. Iowa State does it the right way.

775
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,559
Coach Campbell does it the right way. And Coach Campbell

776
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,599
actually uh, he elaborated on how much respect he has

777
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,039
for Kalanie Sataki and the way that he coaches. These

778
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,920
are teams that in many ways mirror each other in culture.

779
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,440
There's no entitlement At Iowa State. There's there's little to

780
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,760
no entitlement. I think at b YU and uh Uh

781
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,960
it's a we not me type of approach for both squads.

782
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,800
They're tough, they're gritty, Uh, they execute. They're great football programs.

783
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,880
Going back to Aaron rodercks out, uh they lost their

784
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,119
starting quarters Iowa stated, Do they present any different challenges

785
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,119
because of that?

786
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,039
Speaker 5: Really hasn't been a big drop off that I see.

787
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:02,079
And it's defensive coordinator does such a good job. They

788
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,119
mix up their coverages so much. It's not like their

789
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,559
corners are just hanging on an island all day in

790
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,280
man coverage. You know, they do a lot of good

791
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,880
things to keep you guessing, and so I am. They're

792
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,039
a program that's very tough and physical, and you know

793
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,639
when they have somebody get hurt, they're not gonna gonna

794
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,400
whine about it. The next guy's gonna step up and play.

795
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: I have a lot of respect for him.

796
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Not much of a drop off, he says, is that

797
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,400
an accurate depiction of what Ioway Stayed is doing on

798
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,000
the back end of their defense. Some would say no,

799
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,519
that there has been a bit of a drop off.

800
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:39,440
The defense has been exposed at times. They have weaknesses

801
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,119
on the back end. We'll see if a Rod and

802
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,800
the staff can expose some of those weaknesses through the

803
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719
throw game. I'll say this much like I do not

804
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,320
believe we are utilizing Cody Hagen as much as we should,

805
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,800
and I think we need to look. As much as

806
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,639
I love seeing Bear Blackmart throw chop top throws to

807
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,440
Chase Roberts or back shoulder throws Chase Roberts, I want

808
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,199
to see something over the top to Cody Hagen because

809
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:06,159
he's beating everybody, every defensive back that tries to guard him.

810
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,960
He's created separation. Even the best defensive backs that they've played.

811
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Smith Snoten had trouble keeping up with him from the

812
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,440
slot receiver position. When you put Cody Hagan at the

813
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,000
slot off the line of scrimmage, he is unguardable in space,

814
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,480
unguardable in space.

815
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,039
Speaker 3: We just got to find a way to get him

816
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:24,280
the ball over the top. Well.

817
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this Iowa State game sets up

818
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,639
really well for him because theoretically you've got cornerback five

819
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,480
for Iowa State's team is the one assigned to Cody

820
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,400
and I don't know, I feel pretty good about Cody

821
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,800
Hagen being able to beat out cornerback five.

822
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no doubt about it. No, it's answer butts.

823
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to the number eight segment here, Number eight SoundBite.

824
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:58,880
First day is the first time a daykick that we've

825
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,000
had this season. So you get the one thirty kickoff.

826
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Does that change anything for you guys?

827
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, you get you wake up and eat

828
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,360
breakfast and go. That's so that'll be different. But I

829
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,239
think we're all excited to play a day game. It's

830
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,119
you know, instead of getting home at five o'clock in

831
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,360
the morning, we'll get you know, get a decent night's

832
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,599
sleep after that game and going into our bye week.

833
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,039
But you know, night games has been great to us,

834
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,719
But we're excited to play in the day.

835
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 6: I am and looking forward to it.

836
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: Day game guys, any impact here do you think being

837
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,280
on the road in ames in a day game environment?

838
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Any issues there, guys that you see being showcased.

839
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,159
Speaker 4: I just never feel great about the daytime kiss now.

840
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

841
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about it. I know last year,

842
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:48,559
I think the first one they had was Arizona. Who

843
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,400
do we play first Baylor Arizona because those were both

844
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,559
daytime kicks Baylor, and the Baylor one was weird.

845
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:55,599
Speaker 3: You guys, remember that game.

846
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,639
Speaker 4: We played really hot, played real well in the first half,

847
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:02,400
and then the second half. Robertson turned it on in

848
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,760
the second half, and again it.

849
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,679
Speaker 3: Was just it was just a weird one.

850
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,199
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be one thirty Mountain time, so that'll

851
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,559
be where their body clocks, or it'll be two thirty

852
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,440
I think time in Texas.

853
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 3: Look, do I think BYU is a better team than IOC. Yeah?

854
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,079
Speaker 4: Do I think they're gonna expose I State secondary? Yeah?

855
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,800
But do I also believe that it's possible that just

856
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,079
the pure weirdness and no other argument other than that,

857
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,159
could play a factor at.

858
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: The beginning of this game.

859
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, the nighttime has been so good to us that

860
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,599
if the daytime gods decide not to give us help

861
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,119
at the beginning of that game, I could see that

862
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,280
possibly happening.

863
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,559
Speaker 3: But either way, I think they win.

864
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: I think the beginning could just be a little bit odd.

865
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the vampire Cougars have have us all a

866
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,559
little bit superstitious, or at least stitious.

867
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: Is we headed in day day games, right, I don't know,

868
00:42:59,559 --> 00:42:59,960
it's just.

869
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: From I mean, we played well during day games last year.

870
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,679
I think the staff has got a good routine down.

871
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,159
I think I think it comes down to the resources too.

872
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,840
I think Boa has got better resources than we had

873
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:20,239
during the day game curse. I mean, is it different, Yeah,

874
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,239
but I don't. I just feel weird because it's a

875
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,199
road game more than a day game, because this year

876
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,760
BYU has I mean, they've played well, they're seven and zero,

877
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,039
but they played significantly worse on the road. Like Colorado

878
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,159
was weird to start the game. I don't think we

879
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,719
were ready for the road. In fact, East Carolina that

880
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
first half we couldn't score the ball. It took a

881
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,800
pick six to to kind of to get everything going.

882
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,079
Uh and Arizona we started out well. I think that

883
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:52,719
was more of the rain delay than it being a

884
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,199
road environment and being stuck in that very small locker room.

885
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,360
But regardless, the three road games that BYU's play laid,

886
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,239
it's just been a little bit. We've been less than

887
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:07,880
we are at home, and I think the difference has

888
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,239
been significant big time.

889
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: We'll see how it plays out. Where do you see

890
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,639
the strength of this Iowa State defense.

891
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, Well, it starts with just they have a

892
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,800
very unique scheme and they're very good at it. That

893
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,119
I would start there and then but they have good

894
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:27,719
players at every position, very good size.

895
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,639
Speaker 6: They're a big team, and they hit. I mean these

896
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:30,559
guys are hitters.

897
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: This is there's some this is a violent team and

898
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,039
I respect them a lot.

899
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,159
Speaker 3: Big, physical, well coached. Uh.

900
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Like I said last week, it seemed like a Spider

901
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:50,599
Man meme from a statistical output standpoint. This team culturally,

902
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:55,920
this team, how they're coached, this team, how they hit and.

903
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: Bring the would bring the hammer. Uh.

904
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: They very much look and feel like b YU. It'll

905
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,159
be a tough one, no doubt. What is the status

906
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,039
of Jojo Phillips and when do you expect him back?

907
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,679
Speaker 5: Joe, Well, he won't play in this game, but I'm

908
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,960
expecting him. I'm expect him to play against Texas Tech.

909
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 6: So after the boy, I think, so.

910
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about to see on A.

911
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: I'm more unsure on him, but Jojo was Yeah, JoJo's

912
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,119
getting really close.

913
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,199
Speaker 5: He's he's track seeing and looking really good out here.

914
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:29,679
Speaker 2: Disgusted yesterday were like, Hey, what's the best case scenario

915
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,159
for b YU getting Jojo Phillips back, and and we

916
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:35,760
were like, well, at least by like TCU. We got

917
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,559
him probably by TCU. But tech is what a Rod

918
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:41,599
is saying. Now, will he be full strength, We'll be

919
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,880
ready to go. Will he be implemented in the game.

920
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,320
I don't know, but he'll least be available. And you

921
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,119
could hear a little bit of pep in in his step,

922
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,880
you know, vocally with a Rod pontificating on Jojo Phillips.

923
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: He wants him back and needs them back.

924
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I learned here is that

925
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,840
if I want an injury update, I'm to ask Aaron

926
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,239
Roderick and not Kilani because Kilani's gonna call me out

927
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,039
and tell me to wait for an injury report.

928
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a Rod is just gonna give it to

929
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,000
me straight. He's gonna give it to you. Hey, that's

930
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:11,079
a Jay and a Rod.

931
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: Do I think Kilanie doesn't want to be the one that,

932
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,199
you know, to elaborate on hippo violations.

933
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: I know that's not hippo violations anymore. But anyway, all right,

934
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,760
there you go.

935
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,119
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for twelve months, made locally, installed, professionally, always back for life.

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Call them today, mention I sent you one eight five

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zero nine one zero zero. That's eight O one eight

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five zero nine one zero zero. They're gonna take care

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of you. Whether it's Jake Weber or Nate Orchard, they

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always will give you the deals that you're looking for.

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When you listen to Cougar Sports and ESPN Radio, let's

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take a time out. We'll be back though. Don't go

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anywhere more to get to on a Wednesday edition of

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Cougar Sports here on one of three nine ninety eight

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point three