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Speaker 2: I'm now listening to soft core History.

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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to softcore History. I am your host for

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the week, Rob Fox, joined as always by Dan Jester.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to host you in my house.

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Speaker 2: Always good to be here. It's a home away from home.

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Speaker 1: Got a new piece of set deck. Yeah, from American

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Rustic Work.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was that was the name, but I

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didn't want to mess it up and be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: American Rustic Works yep, plural. Pretty sweet though he.

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Speaker 3: Does many works that are rustic.

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Speaker 1: All in America kind of takes us back to our

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old set with the American flag that you really never

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see in frame.

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Speaker 2: With it's hardly ever in frame, but you can see

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the bottom of it.

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Speaker 3: It was a good It was a good set deck.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's coming along.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fucking perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean everything else is a mess, but but right here,

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this this couch, Yeah, this side incredible. I do hope

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someone comes in and is like, what do you shoot here? Oh?

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I think my neighbor like peeks in whenever I'm coming

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out at the same time as he does. He's probably

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like what what? And he's a video guy too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, only f o F Yeah I would too.

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Speaker 1: I have never really spoken to him, but I already

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know what's happening in his life. How I just pay attention.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you pick up little things.

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Speaker 1: He broke up with his girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, would you hear a wall punch?

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Speaker 1: I saw the marguing in the parking lot. Haven't seen

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her since, doesn't much.

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Speaker 3: How much are you watching this guy?

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Speaker 1: It was like a week ago.

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Speaker 3: You just see him a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, he's my direct neighbor.

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Speaker 3: And you just don't see the girl anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the dog too, That had a dog. Oh, dog's gone.

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He had a dog. Yeah, shit, she had the dog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's happened to me before. Got a dog for

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my girlfriend. We break up, girlfriend keeps a dog.

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Speaker 1: Haven't had to deal with that. Yeah, I've gotten chasing

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every divorce.

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Speaker 3: Well, Chase is r.

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Speaker 1: It's my dog. Yeah, I bought it.

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Speaker 3: I bought the dog as a gift. Her parents were furious.

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Speaker 1: Uh a gift to get it from like a puppy mill.

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Speaker 3: No, now I was an adopted dog.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, just making sure. I think it was a

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piece of shit, making sure you get a street dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think was a fucking dickhead too, so I

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didn't mind that she got its sweet but not well behaved.

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Speaker 1: Um.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a fun show today on softcore History.

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By the way, the whole cataloger shows on softcore history

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dot com I'm sorry. On Patreon dot com slash softcore history,

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five dollars a month gets you all kinds of fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if we have a website anymore.

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I don't care to find out. No. At this point,

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my mom just told me my LinkedIn has my old

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damn regester dot com from like twenty eighteen. Sick. That

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does not work nice. So I'm sure any future employer

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that wants to hire me to produce just goes to

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a broken url.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where's your uh, where's your reel at?

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Speaker 1: Where's your I don't have a real, dude, I'm pretty

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fucking podcast it's good to my fucking YouTube channel.

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Speaker 3: Bitch.

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Speaker 1: What am I supposed to put together?

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Speaker 3: The reels is supposed to do all?

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Speaker 1: It's so goddamn stupid highlight reel of podcasting. Yeah, of

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this medium, it's not very impressive. It's just like, all right,

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there it is, Okay, there's that doesn't sound good?

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem Your problem with the reel is is

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that you make everything consistent so that it doesn't look

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good in a highlight because if it's like a crazy

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thing where you shoot at a bar, it just looks

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normal because you did such a good It's like a

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it's like a director, right, a good director.

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Speaker 1: You don't notice their touch. I'm a landscaper. Yeah, the

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lawns manicured. Right, You'll only know if there's weeds. It's

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two level. It's two level.

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Speaker 2: People don't. People want to understand. It's a problem. You're

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too excellent all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's what people come here for, the production excellence, not

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the history talking. That's why we haven't been gotten, do you.

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Speaker 3: Uh but no we have.

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Speaker 1: Actually that actually might be why no one listens.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's get into it then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have huge, huge, breaking history news this week.

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Speaker 1: We've had two major stories this week. I'm excited to

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see what you went with. Okay, and I'm starting to

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feel like it wasn't the one I told you to do.

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Speaker 3: It is not.

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Speaker 1: It's the other one cool because it's more history. Yeah,

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the other one's a bit more crime corner. I actually

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sent it to Coop. Yeah, I'm like, dude, they saw

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the yoga shop murders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I would be I would have been

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more inclined to do it if I was from Austin

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because apparently it just like.

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Speaker 1: A huge deal. Rock to the city. My friend Shay,

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she teaches at the school they went to. That's wild.

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There's a huge like not monument, but like plaque or something. Yeah,

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for the girls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the yogurt shot murders just like stunned the city, quiet,

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little hippie town that it was back.

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Speaker 1: Then, and it was a serial killer it turns out, yeah, yeah,

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DNA evidence has come out who.

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Speaker 3: Is doing work in Missouri and Tennessee, and so.

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Speaker 1: Oft himself in Missouri in a shootout with the cops.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is he kind of failed.

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He shot himself in the head, but he died.

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Speaker 3: Six days later.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so good. I'm glad suffered a little bit.

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Thank god, thank god. I mean, if you read into

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his wiki and everything, it's wild. So check that out

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in your own time. I suppose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we might do it still.

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Speaker 2: I just I just this one was more history focused, like.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, little h history, We're not a crime show.

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And also that yeah, we'll do like Jack the Ripper,

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We've done a lot of serio. I don't even know this.

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Dude's name didn't stick in my head.

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Speaker 3: No, it was Robert something, but that's all I remember.

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Speaker 1: Rob from Missouri. Huh yeah, huh.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Well Rob, what were you doing in nineteen ninety four?

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If I pulled that off in like ninety four or

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whenever it happened, you need to just give me a

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medal ninety one ninety one, then you need to I

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shouldn't go to jail.

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Speaker 1: I shoul get a medal for that. I even know

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if I was alive at the point I was. I

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was born in May. I forget what month the yogurt

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shot murders were in. I imagine the summer, So maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brand new your parents is a what kind of

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world are we bringing a boy into?

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Speaker 1: They didn't hear about it at all. Non Delco was.

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Speaker 2: Not a national news story. Horrible local news story though,

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But no, today we're talking about humongous history news coming

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out of the White House. I meansh stuff that is

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gonna alter the course of everything.

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Speaker 1: The ryder cup.

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Speaker 3: Trump has finally decided to release the files.

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Speaker 1: He wore golf shoes this weekend to the course, like

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he was gonna play full kit wanker. Not a full

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kit whanker, but it is.

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Speaker 2: Was he wearing a golf polo and golf pants as well?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was wearing a polo. I forget.

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Maybe it was like a pullover. I actually never pay

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attention to what Trump wears usually. Was he dressed to golf? No,

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just golf shoes, Okay, so he just wanted some grip. Yeah,

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he's getting steps in. You can't wear uh like dress

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shoes on the course.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna eat shit.

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Speaker 1: No, but you wear sneakers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's he doesn't want to wear sneakers.

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It's not presidential.

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Speaker 1: Does Trump own a pair of sneakers?

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine, like a new balance, what does he

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jordan's, Like if he rocks a pair of Jordan's.

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Michael was there too.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what have you ever you have Jordan's right?

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Speaker 1: They're not comfortable? I can't believe he played basketball most No,

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Speaker 2: I wore Jordans to the Cotton Bowl two years ago,

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and my feet felt like they had been just beaten

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with baseball bats by.

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Speaker 1: The end of the day.

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Speaker 3: Like it was horrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he played games in those Yeah, that was

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fucking insane. He probably would have been much better if

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he had a more comfortable sneaker. How many Tiger Tiger

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had to use the terrible Nike gear. Give him like

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ten more majors if he had titleist?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how rings did did Jordan win with the

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Jordan one's zero zero?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 3: Don't fact check me on that.

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Speaker 1: I imagine because it was years into his career that

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he won a championship. Yeah, they had moved on to

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Speaker 3: Yeah at that point.

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Speaker 2: So they're just those stylish you know, they look great,

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especially with the pair Khakis.

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Speaker 1: Man, they look good. You fucking Jim Harball.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, loock me. Yeah, of course. So Trump is

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releasing the files, the files about a person whose last

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name starts with E.

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Speaker 1: I know who it is.

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Speaker 2: We are finally going to learn the truth about Amelia Earhart.

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He's releasing everything the government knows about the disappearance of

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Amelia Earhart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she crashed, ended up on a remote island, and

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then she got eaten by crabs. We don't well, we

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don't know. And here's the thing, not just any crabs,

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the crab people. Crab people. They came out of the caves.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. They don't know either, No, no

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Speaker 2: These files have nothing in them that will reveal what

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happened to Amelia Earhart. It has been thoroughly looked into.

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Speaker 1: She was shot down by Israel before Israel existed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, ten hot ten years before Israel came

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to be.

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Speaker 1: She was going to prevent it somehow.

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Speaker 2: How they don't know how, but somehow. So finally our

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nation will have answers about how the woman who tried

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to fly a tiny propeller plane around the world died.

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Speaker 1: A woman driving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just get those out of the way that

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would kill it.

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Speaker 2: In Austin stand up set, dude, Gabby does five minutes

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on her pussy, We come out, dude.

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Speaker 1: You know what, crudo, A little bit, a little bit

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of the through the flood sounds like you're picking Mark

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Marin's side. We've already distanced ourselves from Austin Comics, I,

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but we also want to distance ourselves from Mark Marrin.

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That guy sucks.

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Speaker 3: I've been on this show.

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Speaker 2: I've said on the show several times that I thought

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another person who does this, I thought that Anthony jessel

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Nick is a pompous douchebag. The way he talks about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody that talks about stand up comedians talking comedy

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on podcasts, rivet and stuff, cal amazing. It's the best.

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Speaker 2: We're finally gonna learn how this lady died. Maybe next

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we can get the Royaliday files, find.

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Speaker 1: Out how he died. How dare you? How dare you.

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Speaker 3: Had to do it?

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Speaker 1: Do a Corey Litel joke? No, it doesn't hit with you.

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Speaker 2: He was a Philly Yeah, I don't think you feel

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Speaker 1: Like Roy Helle and I really have no connection to

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Corey Littel. Yeah, but he did. It was like pretty

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close to nine to eleven. He crashed a plane in

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New York. They'd be like, oh my god, no Paris attack.

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No it was a Yankees pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just an idiot with a bad hobby.

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Speaker 1: You know there is a golfer now that does fly planes.

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Two tournaments, Matt McNeely. Yeah, he's gonna die, that's concerning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna die. No, he's gonna die.

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Speaker 1: It was a huge thing with Ben Roethlisberger riding a motorcycle.

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But if you're pro athlete, at least, he's an independent contract. Right,

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If you're on a team sport and you fly planes,

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you don't, I'm getting out of that contract.

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Speaker 2: Allow it. Here's every contract. Is you drive a Volvo?

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Speaker 1: You have a driver?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, good Lord.

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Speaker 1: Toyota driving the most reliable car in America anytime.

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Speaker 2: Like if you say, what was the wide receiver? Who's

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the dude who barbecued that lady and her dog of.

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Speaker 1: A kid from Bama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've played for the Vegas Raiders for zero seconds. Yeah, no,

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you you They just have a year of the whole

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day in rookie like training. That's for like before the

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league starts, where you're just like Uber, how to use it.

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Here's how much money you make, Here's how much Uber costs.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the thrill, yeah, of drinking and driving,

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At least for John Jones and Uh, I mean there's

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so many Leonard little Wall.

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Speaker 2: You guys had a guy Donte Stalworth.

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Speaker 1: Stal Warth wasn't on the team yet. I think it

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was on the Patriots when he did that. Okay for

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his post career, but yeah he Uh there's a lot

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of athletes slash coaches that have killed pedestrians and cars.

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Speaker 3: Beheim, we talked about Beheim.

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Speaker 1: I think he hit an immigrant that was not Stalworth.

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I forget.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Beaheim definitely hit a Latino. I do not know

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their citizenships that they came to the country.

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Speaker 1: No, but somebody hit like a legal immigrant running across

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like a six lane highway. It wasn't really their fault.

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Speaker 2: That was Beheim. Okay, yeah, yeah, he's running across an

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interstate like at night.

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Speaker 1: Not on Beehim.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not on Beheim at all.

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Speaker 1: But he does have to live with that the rest

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of his life.

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Speaker 2: Well, thankfully he did it near the end, so I

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guess not a lot of time to be guilty.

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Speaker 1: Dude, he's still thriving. I guess. I'm sure he's in retirement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Got the coach's son, buddy. Yeah, where do you think

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Buddy's at? I assumed he was at Syracuse. Yes, I'm saying,

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where do you think he is? Now? Where's Buddy Beheim? No?

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Speaker 3: I know, I thought he was still at Syracuse. Maybe

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he's not.

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Speaker 1: No, Buddy is like in Europe. Maybe he did the

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Marshall Henderson. He's playing basketball in Iraq.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just thought he was coaching at this point already.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a couple contracts over in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, he's in the G League.

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Speaker 1: There you go with the I would hate that.

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Speaker 3: I would rather go to Turkey with the thunder.

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Speaker 1: Give up on your dreams. People never getting called up

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for that to be a Globe chrotter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, even though there's no good answer to how Amelia

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Earhart died, we will run over the options because there

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are some interesting theories about how she died. And this

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is where maybe the Trump files get interesting. Her involvement

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with the government.

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Speaker 1: She was intelligence, that's a theory. Henry Ruggs was the

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raider's receiver. By the way, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We just talked about a month or two ago about.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody at home was losing their minds. Yeah,

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honking their horn in traffic, and we call somebody else

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to die because they were so angry at us, not

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knowing who Henry Ruggs was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they hit a lady and her dog.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They hit their horn. It

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caused them to unintentionally beep at somebody in traffic. They

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get pissed. They come out with a bat and hit

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them with that. They hit them over the head with

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the bat.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they got road raged because of us. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Sorry it took that.

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Speaker 1: Long, but they're dead.

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Speaker 3: They're dead now, so there's nothing. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've lost a listener, hopefully not a Patreon. We do.

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy when someone's like that made me laugh

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so hard while I was driving that I almost crashed,

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because that's what I go for.

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Speaker 1: Oh, people sometimes listen to us while they lift. That's insane.

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Don't especially if you're benching.

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Speaker 2: We're too funny, We're hilarious.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make you. Stefan Johnson, we'll go full sports

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reference here. Okay, remember Stefan Johnson from USC dropped the

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bar on his neck. I don't remember that. That's insane.

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Three hundred and fifteen pounds just didn't die though. He's fine, fine,

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strong neck. You gotta work that neck. When you're taking

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headshots like that, you gotta have a strong neck. So oh,

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by the way, they did intelligence like that. If you

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remember from the Kennedy episode The Eldest Kennedy Joe Junr.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't us though, I no zil he was

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banging a spy though. Yeah, but we were doing that too.

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Spy on spy, Yeah, absolutely, we're spine. So they're all

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are interesting details about Earhart stuff. I'm just trying to

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think she's the twenties, right, thirties, thirty and thirties.

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Speaker 3: She crashed in thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, FBI pops off with Dillinger, which is around the

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same time. It's about a decade earlier. I don't know

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when the CIA starts.

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Speaker 2: That's after World War Two, but we have the OSS

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and the FBI would be probably doing sort of intelligence

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like that too. Tracking the was the FBI certainly was

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at the time in the United States, like tracking Nazis

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and communists and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: They were all over all of it. Okay, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of our internal intelligence agency, but we definitely

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had overseas spies as well at that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand spies have been around since time. Yeah,

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I get that. I'm just saying the intelligence agencies as

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we know them, I guess like we're in the beginning

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stages of their infancy or weren't around at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the SEE I wasn't around.

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Speaker 2: I think it's its predecessor, the OSS.

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Speaker 1: I think it's called the OSS was around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not as organized though as the CIA obviously

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so a little bit about Earhart's final flight, which was

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what kind of what makes these file releases even funnier.

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Speaker 3: It was a fucking clown show.

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Speaker 1: How was it to clown show?

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Speaker 2: They didn't know how half of their equipment worked.

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Speaker 1: We just figured out how to fly. Not that long ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're going on thirty years at that point,

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and people had already circumnavigated the globe via plane, just

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not a woman. She would have been the first woman

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to do it. Other people had done it, though other

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guys had done it.

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Speaker 1: Though Charles Limberg did he do the world.

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Speaker 2: I know he did the Atlantic. He was the first

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transatlantic flight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I imagine he probably upped the ante. I

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would have to look into it, or it was probably

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some random French dude. It was probably Yeah, probably somebody

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never heard of. But it's ours.

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Speaker 3: It's ours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though that might not be true, it's true

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in our eyes.

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Speaker 2: Earhart had attempt before this didn't work, had to scrap it.

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So they get going across the Pacific, and they had

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just had a new communication system installed on the plane,

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like a state of the art communication system that neither

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her nor her co pilot, Fred Noonan knew how to use.

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Speaker 1: Really, dude, Fred gets no love right first I've ever

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heard of him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was not alone on that plane.

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Speaker 1: How could you?

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Speaker 2: She had a guy with her. They have they are

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flying over the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 1: Makes me think that's how they start where they lovers.

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Speaker 3: She was married, but you got to think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they got into a bit of an argument.

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Speaker 2: She was like, oh, crash this plane.

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Speaker 1: No women being dramatic.

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Speaker 3: Bitches being bitches.

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Speaker 2: They had no idea, they had no idea how to

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communicate on it. They barely knew how to use it right.

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When they're flying in the Pacific, they're getting directions from

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the US Navy. Huge waste of tax paramney by the way,

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So this is probably where some of the files come

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in in terms of what we know, even though we

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already know this shit. They were being guided by like

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Coast Guard ships, Navy ships, stuff like that. But her

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plane a locky Electra equipped with the advanced radio gear.

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She didn't know how to contact the US Coast Guard

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ship Itasca, which had an older radio on it with

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the gear, so she she could communicate to them, but

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she did not know how to tune her radio to

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get them.

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Speaker 1: Back, just pop off a couple shots.

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Speaker 2: So they were also another thing they were gonna do

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because they were near the island. She was supposed to

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arrive on.

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Speaker 1: Going the speed of smell, just fire of flare.

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Speaker 2: They were gonna smoke stack it because the ship was old.

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They're gonna just like burn smoke to be like, island's

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over here, here's the island. But it was a cloudy

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day apparently, so the radio doesn't fucking work. They can't

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navigate in anything less than perfect weather. Apparently they had

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no and by the.

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Speaker 1: Cloud slash fog. How many lives have they taken clouds

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and fog?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a lot.

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Speaker 1: Mama mentality. Yeah, she's gonna fly through.

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Speaker 2: It, gotta get there, that's kind of that's kind of

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her mentality as well, so the coast guardship could hear

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Erhart's voice transmissions, which were growing stronger as she approached them,

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because they were sitting near the island she was supposed

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to land and refuel at, but she was mismatching the

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frequencies because she didn't know how to use the equipment

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and couldn't hear what they were telling her in terms

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of direction and shit like that. They could hear her,

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and the coast guard guy who was operating the radio

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was like, oh my fucking god, she can't hear us.

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Like he was like, she's gonna crash.

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Speaker 1: She can't hear us.

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Speaker 3: She has no idea where she's going.

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Speaker 1: How high is she not that point? Yeah, I was

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gonna say we we weren't going something.

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Speaker 2: Like forty thousand feet up, something like maybe ten thousand.

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but again clouds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She also her and Noonan, her navigator, didn't know terribly

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well how to use the new plane's direction finding system.

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it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: It's like I've done this kind of before in some capacity.

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You give me a new camera, like sure, it's maybe

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it's not a sony, maybe it's not you know exactly

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the model I have. But I'll figure it out eventually. Yeah,

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sometimes I don't figure it out.

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Speaker 2: To further make matters worse, like this is. It got

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to the point with me reading this where I truly

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wonder why Amelia Earhart is a hero.

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Speaker 1: She died.

469
00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:02,559
Speaker 2: I guess the ship, the Coast Guard ship that was

470
00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:03,440
trying to help them.

471
00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,279
Speaker 1: How far does she get? By the way, I.

472
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: Think she starts in la and she crashes in the

473
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:09,440
Pacific Ocean?

474
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how far does she get past Hawaii?

475
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,559
Speaker 3: For sure?

476
00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: That was Good's it. I don't know. It could be

477
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,519
like she took off from Wichita and she got to Omahon,

478
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:24,079
she's gone.

479
00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was on one of the first legs.

480
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: I know nothing about this, and I always, for some reason,

481
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,279
just assumed it was the Bermuda Triangle.

482
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,839
Speaker 2: No, No, she gets she gets in the Pacific, in

483
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,319
like the South Pacific, basically just where there's like nothing,

484
00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:45,160
just some tiny little islands. So I guess the Navy

485
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,640
ship at one point was like, okay, let's try a

486
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:54,359
very tried and true method of communicating with them. That

487
00:22:54,519 --> 00:23:00,799
any idiot traveling will know, and so the Navy start

488
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,519
hitting with Morse code.

489
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: Check it out. She doesn't know Morse because.

490
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: She doesn't know Morse code. Her and Noonan don't know

491
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Morse code. Who is this boob they gave her? This

492
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,880
guy's useless like it. It's to the point where it

493
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,720
sounds like they just decided to get in a plane.

494
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: Had she flown a plane before? It's I want the

495
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480
files might tell us. Now listen, they were really trying

496
00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:31,920
to put a woman on a pedestal.

497
00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: It's insane that this person is a hero like this

498
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,559
is just self own after self owned horrible preparation.

499
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: She had guts. I'll give her that, I guess, you know.

500
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, there was review reduced visibility that day,

501
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,559
so they couldn't see a lot. The Electra is ranged,

502
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000
by the way, it was not a plane you would

503
00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:03,039
call ideal for doing this either.

504
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: They have to stop every like two hundred miles.

505
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: It's not a big range plane.

506
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,279
Speaker 1: So and there's stretches of the Pacific where you would

507
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:17,240
need to stop, and there's no islands.

508
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: Right and they were making stops. They were trying to

509
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,359
you know, hop through the Pacific or whatever. But it

510
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,799
was it's such bad range that they had to be

511
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:31,519
exactly on course. Any any deviation and they're fucked.

512
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: And they don't know how to use anything on the plane, right. Yeah,

513
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,759
I mean she was set up to fail, I think

514
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:42,680
by herself. I imagine somebody else organized the entire event.

515
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,920
She wasn't the mastermind behind this.

516
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: I yeah, she had funders, for sure. I forget who.

517
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, she had sponsors. And you would think

518
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:53,799
she would fly a plane that she's already flown before,

519
00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:00,720
one would imagine. So I don't think this was her idea.

520
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,799
Speaker 3: She could say, no, this is to say I need

521
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:04,559
a better plane.

522
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: Propaganda by the feminist movement at the time, and they

523
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,680
kind of pushed her into it. She was not ready,

524
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,400
and she suffered because other women wanted her to be great.

525
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think feminism killed her.

526
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: I think so.

527
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,079
Speaker 2: I think that's not the worst hypothesis. Now let's get

528
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:33,119
into some hypothesis of what happened to her. So the

529
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,079
most popular one is the Gardner Island hypothesis.

530
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: All those women back then too, got one right behind me.

531
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:47,359
Helen Keller frauds kind of. She apparently plagiarized all our books.

532
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,839
Speaker 3: How is that possible.

533
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,559
Speaker 1: It's a good question. But she wrote fourteen books, all

534
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:54,640
fourteen were plagiarized.

535
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, how is she physically capable of plagiarizing?

536
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,799
Speaker 1: So a lot of her her accomplishments are questionable.

537
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Including how she quote unquote flew a plane.

538
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's also a pilot. Yeah, so was Amelia

539
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Earhart like Helen Keller when it comes to being a pilot.

540
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,119
Uh was it this dude doing all the heavy lifting?

541
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: No, she was the pilot. He was like the navigating. Sure,

542
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,640
I'm not because a lot of a lot of stuff's

543
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,000
been blown up for me in the last day and

544
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:25,359
a half.

545
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh so you haven't even dipped into the files.

546
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,039
Speaker 3: I don't think the Father has been released yet.

547
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe they will be by Monday when this comes out,

548
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,240
But as far as I know, they haven't been released yet.

549
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:37,720
Trump said they were going.

550
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 1: To sweet so so we can finally we're doing this

551
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:46,440
episode much like she flew that plane blind, yeah, and

552
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:47,160
like Helen.

553
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: Keller, Yeah, a lot of blind piloting here. So the

554
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,200
Gardner Island hypothesis assumes that Earhart and Noonan unable to

555
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,599
find their destination to refuel Howland Island. When they realized

556
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:01,599
they were super we're off course, they were like, fuck it,

557
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,400
We're not gonna try and fly around for Howland because

558
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,359
our shitty plane doesn't have enough fuel. So we're just

559
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,759
gonna find the next island we can and try to

560
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,119
set down. So they turn south to look for it.

561
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:15,039
Radio transmission transmission suggests they flew a course that would

562
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,480
take them past Baker Island. If they missed this, then

563
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,119
sometime later they would fly over the Phoenix Islands, which

564
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240
are now a part of Kira Body, and that's about

565
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,960
three hundred and fifty miles south southeast of Howland Island.

566
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,559
Speaker 1: Just not gonna make it. It's like when you're low

567
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,920
on gas and you miss the exit and you're in

568
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,319
the middle of nowhere.

569
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: And if there's not even a gas station, it's just

570
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,920
a fucking taco bell.

571
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,519
Speaker 1: It's not that, it's just you can't even turn around. Yeah,

572
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,359
there's literally no exits for twenty six miles right, and

573
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,119
then the lights on. You're still trying to gauge. It's

574
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,640
an old school car. You don't have the exact mileage.

575
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the number, even though the numbers are bullshit, but

576
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:53,279
they give you.

577
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: They give you hope you're riding it out like Kramer. Yeah,

578
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,359
just like, come on, come on, man, come on, you're

579
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,240
trying to feel something.

580
00:27:59,279 --> 00:27:59,839
Speaker 3: It cannot be on.

581
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: The side of this fucking road. So one of the

582
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,839
Phoenix Islands, known as Gardner Island, has been suggested as

583
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440
a possible crash landing site. The International Group for Historic

584
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Aircraft Recovery. They're the ones that presented this hypothesis that

585
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,799
they hit Gardner Island, which was uninhabited at the time.

586
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,240
They landed the Electra on a flat reef near a

587
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,319
shipwreck that was on the same island, the nineteen twenty

588
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,119
nine shipwreck of a freighter called the Norwich City, and

589
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:37,599
they sent sporadic radio messages from there. Now after they crashed, Yeah,

590
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,160
after they crashed from their planes radio.

591
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have come from it. I thought I

592
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,759
just figured she just disappeared into the ether.

593
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: Into the ocean.

594
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,079
Speaker 1: I don't know. She could have went into another dimension.

595
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: Oh, we don't fully know either, but we'll get to that.

596
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,559
Speaker 1: But the fact that we have a radio signal after

597
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,880
she crashes.

598
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,279
Speaker 2: We for sure have a radio signal after she misses. Course,

599
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,319
we for sure have that. The rest of it is

600
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,279
up for debate and hopefully this administration shed some light.

601
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she just went into like a little

602
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:14,720
ripple and she went. She came out into another.

603
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,559
Speaker 2: The land of the land, just fucking t rexes and

604
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,200
monkey people run around.

605
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:24,759
Speaker 1: Oh do is she time travel that'd be even more terrifying.

606
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: To the past. Yeah, fuck that, it'd be horrible. You

607
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
just land on an island dinosaurs. It'd actually be funny

608
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,359
if she thought she time traveled when she crashed on

609
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,720
the island.

610
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: But she has no context at that time for Jurassic part.

611
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just kmodo dragons actually ripping her to pieces.

612
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: She got there.

613
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,839
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs which at this point we're only like one hundred

614
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,319
years old.

615
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, barely knew what a dinosaur was.

616
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:51,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. So also could just be totally fake. Could be

617
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,759
big bones in the eighteen hundreds.

618
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: Actually, you know what the dinosaur bonthes could be.

619
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: People say that the government put them there or whatever,

620
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,559
like that's the conspira theory.

621
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: No, it was the Bone Wars. It was just two

622
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,839
guys going at it trying to have a circus attraction.

623
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: Let me toss you another theory. Okay, how are the

624
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,680
original dinosaur bones discovered they were digging the railroads, railroads.

625
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,119
Speaker 1: The Chinese.

626
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,319
Speaker 2: No, it was big train because people that it was

627
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,799
exciting to hear about trains being dug because they might

628
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,559
find dinosaur bones. It's just an extra piece of propaganda.

629
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,279
Speaker 1: What if it was like the Chinese or the Irish

630
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,920
just fucking with Americans, that.

631
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,559
Speaker 2: Would also be funny. They just like took eighty of

632
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,920
their dead friends and stitch their bones together.

633
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Us Irish are great storytellers. Yeah, mythical creatures, lizards, giant

634
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640
lizards roamed the earth, and we found their bones as

635
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,319
we're digging trenches for this railroad.

636
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: It feels more like a Chinese story.

637
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: I think the Irish just added the part where they

638
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,799
went extinct because we tell sad stories.

639
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,599
Speaker 1: We tell very sad stories, but we're great storytellers. Yeah.

640
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: So the Chinese were like grand terrible beasts, and the

641
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:02,240
Irish like, that's great, that's great, let's make him a

642
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
little die out.

643
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: The Chinese maybe had the literal bones of the story, yeah,

644
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,400
and then the Irish kind of weaved it together.

645
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,759
Speaker 2: Gave it the flourish and the narrative. Yeah, I agree

646
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,759
with that. So Rick Gilepsby, who was the author of

647
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:24,039
Finding Amelia, wrote that while listening to alleged radio signals

648
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:28,599
on their home radios at the time, a one Mabel Larimore,

649
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:31,839
heard a woman claiming to be Earhart say Noonan was

650
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,279
quote seriously injured and that she had quote some injuries,

651
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,359
but not as serious as mister Noonan's.

652
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,279
Speaker 1: She was fine.

653
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,319
Speaker 3: Betty Klank, another woman at the.

654
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:44,279
Speaker 1: Time, heard Clank owl an apparently.

655
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,759
Speaker 2: Injured man acting agitated with a distressed woman.

656
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: So the Noonan's like, you dump bitch. I told you

657
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,079
did not a fla this plane. God fucking damn.

658
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: It, passing the book. Yeah, he was the pilot all.

659
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: But you did not he was You said, you know it?

660
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:03,079
Do you use it? You'd have seen a map before

661
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:03,599
in your life.

662
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,039
Speaker 1: He was useless.

663
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he didn't know what he used anything.

664
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,079
Speaker 1: Is he a gunner or something.

665
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: No, he's the navigator. I get that, but he'd also

666
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,480
didn't know. Yeah, it's insane.

667
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: I think he was like a last minute replacement.

668
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:16,319
Speaker 1: Get a couple of test flights in.

669
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: Apparently, Klenk heard the man uttering what sounded like repeatedly

670
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,039
what sounded like Marie. Nowtan's Wife's first name was Mary B.

671
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:28,799
Speaker 1: And h.

672
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,519
Speaker 2: The man was also saying, water's knee deep. Let me out.

673
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:33,839
Speaker 1: So they crashed in the water.

674
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,119
Speaker 2: Uh, well if so, if they hit the island, yeah,

675
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,400
they landed it on a reef, so like in the water,

676
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,039
but like shallow.

677
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Water sense, so they're fine. Yeah.

678
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: Clenk also heard the woman say, George, get the suitcase

679
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,200
in my closet.

680
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,839
Speaker 3: Then there's some breakup. California.

681
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,039
Speaker 2: Four years earlier, in a letter to her mother, Earhart

682
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,000
had asked, should anything ever happen to her the suitcase

683
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,319
of private papers ord in her closet in California be

684
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:09,400
destroyed her husband Erhart's Husband's name was George Putnam, the

685
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,839
put Man. Yeah, what was in those What was in

686
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,799
those private letters?

687
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:15,279
Speaker 3: The private papers?

688
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: More secrets about what we had planned for the Middle East.

689
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,359
Speaker 2: After the British Empire falls. Dictator Roosevelt plans to take

690
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:30,480
the whole of the Middle East.

691
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,039
Speaker 1: He's going to redraw the lines. Yeah. Uh, maybe she

692
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:38,160
was a Nazi error. She could have been who knows.

693
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,079
Seems like the time we'll get to that, Limberg was Yeah,

694
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:44,160
So maybe it was.

695
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: Just a Limberg was Nazi curious.

696
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,799
Speaker 1: It could have just been like a pilot hobby at

697
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:50,200
the time.

698
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: It was just like being pilot is Nazi coded in

699
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,000
the nineteen thirties.

700
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,319
Speaker 1: Just gravitate towards the literature. Well, it gets passed around.

701
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,440
I mean, how many pilots are there at that time? Many?

702
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I will say this in their defense of thinking the

703
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,160
Nazis were kind of cool.

704
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: Gonna go out a little limb here.

705
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,039
Speaker 3: They had some pretty cool planes.

706
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: And also we're dominating the Skies in the twenties and thirties.

707
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,679
Speaker 3: Pretty cool planes.

708
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: They they were testing out their stukas and shit. In

709
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,320
the Spanish Civil War. They had a sweet air force,

710
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,840
That's what I'm saying. They had a sweet air force.

711
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,800
So it would make sense to me that a pilot

712
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,280
would be so pilot oriented that they might only think

713
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,920
about the planes.

714
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: The French also were off put in. Yeah, yeah, they

715
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,559
didn't really fuck with the Americans.

716
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,039
Speaker 3: These kind of jerks.

717
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. Germans were a little friend there.

718
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,199
Speaker 3: I don't condone it.

719
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,639
Speaker 1: I understand it. I understand it.

720
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: I have empathy for being a Nazi curious pilot in

721
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,920
the nineteen thirties.

722
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,199
Speaker 1: I could see you being a naz curious But in.

723
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: The nineteen thirties I'd never be a pilot, just not

724
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,760
so curious. More of a Joe Junior.

725
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. They should have got this

726
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,119
country in order.

727
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: But then a Brazilian batter attorney.

728
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh with a heartbeat. I don't have principles like that.

729
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:19,079
Speaker 1: No, are you kidding me?

730
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,519
Speaker 3: I'm for sale.

731
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: She didn't buy him off. She just threw that ass back.

732
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: Brought him off.

733
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: He was he was physically for sale, Okay, he was

734
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,039
mentally for sale. Yeah, she didn't pay him, he didn't

735
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:35,599
need the money.

736
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I certainly don't have any principles.

737
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: What are those seems like they're just getting the way

738
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:44,880
of stuff.

739
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just hamstring you. Really. Yeah, Oh you're gonna

740
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,760
take a stand, You're gonna say something.

741
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: If I'm going to go through life with both my

742
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,239
hands stud behy my back, I'm real smart.

743
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:59,519
Speaker 1: Idiots don't hold me to anything I say here, I

744
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,320
mean none it. Yeah, it's the whole.

745
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: Point of the show. We're not here to We're not

746
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,440
here to change lives.

747
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,599
Speaker 1: We're here for you to get into a rage, grow

748
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:12,159
to accident.

749
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only goal.

750
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:18,159
Speaker 1: To kill some of you, one at a time.

751
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: That'd be a great way to be a serial killer.

752
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,039
Speaker 1: We're the podcasts here.

753
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: You just write like you just write like the funniest

754
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,880
podcast shit you can, helping people crash and die, getting bodies.

755
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, our goal is not to grow the podcast.

756
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:34,639
It's a shrink.

757
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: So uh clink also heard the woman say repeatedly something

758
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,719
that sounded like New York City. It's been speculated she

759
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,039
was actually saying Norwich City, since that was the freighter

760
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,360
that was wrecked on the island. A week after Earhart

761
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,119
and Noonon disappeared, Navy planes from the USS Colorado, which

762
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,960
had left from Pearl Harper by the Way, search Gardner Island.

763
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,440
They saw signs of recent habitation and the wreck of

764
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,400
the Norwich City, but no aircraft. Repeated circling failed to

765
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,519
bring out any survivors, and the historical group thinks that

766
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,519
the Electra had by then washed over the refedge into

767
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:15,840
the ocean, broke up and sank. They also think that

768
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Earhart and possibly Newonan may have tried to survive on

769
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,639
the island but died pretty quick.

770
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,159
Speaker 3: The island was actually habitated, but I think.

771
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,119
Speaker 1: He's probably just like took her out.

772
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: Her than him. He was the super injured one.

773
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,639
Speaker 1: What it's just like not dealing with her.

774
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: What if but he was more injured.

775
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,519
Speaker 2: What if she ate him?

776
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,679
Speaker 1: She's a cannibal.

777
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did she sit down with that killed an ate?

778
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: It's like, you're not going to survive this anyway.

779
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fred, Paul, Fred, I gotta tell you you're not.

780
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: Gonna make it.

781
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: Fred, I'm gonna shoot you in the face with this

782
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,440
flag on.

783
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Or what if she was like incredibly agrol So he

784
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,920
was kind of complain about his injuries and she's like,

785
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,519
you gotta stop being a little bitch, or I'm gonna

786
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:03,880
kill you.

787
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,559
Speaker 3: She's kind of a unit for her time.

788
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Was she she's like five eight okay.

789
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,679
Speaker 2: But like all women back then, impossibly gloriously skinny. She's

790
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,639
like five eight one ten.

791
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: She's a model. Yeah? Was she a babe? No, it's

792
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,880
a bad, tough face.

793
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just normal, kind of normal looking.

794
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,519
Speaker 1: I feel like she's got to be a babe though

795
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:32,920
she's about to be the face of women's flight. No.

796
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: I think that was the best I could do at

797
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,280
the time.

798
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: I suppose, Yeah, you're talking to me more and more

799
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,920
into her not being able to fly planes before this.

800
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,280
I or they really rushed.

801
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 2: They really really rushed it.

802
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,039
Speaker 1: Five. It's too tall for a male pilot. It'd be

803
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,559
tiny if.

804
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,559
Speaker 3: You're in like a fighter jet.

805
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

806
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys are not.

807
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: Big planes and rockets. I think all astronauts are really

808
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,199
tiny too.

809
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:00,559
Speaker 3: Makes sense.

810
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:03,639
Speaker 2: You can't have a like a six or four guy

811
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,840
on a fucking rocket ship.

812
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: Taco Fall seven to six, Yeah, played basketball. U see.

813
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,639
You know, I think I had a cup of coffee

814
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,840
with the Celtics. But his life goal was to be

815
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,719
an astronaut. It's just never it just couldn't happen.

816
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Never gonna happen.

817
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,639
Speaker 1: Cruolest thing that could have happened to him. You think

818
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,480
be seven to six?

819
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: Would Bezos send him up?

820
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Bezos should send him up? Yeah, I think we should

821
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,559
get a movement to send Taco.

822
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: Bezos needs to send Taco up like.

823
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely not in those like thirty second rockets either. I

824
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,800
want my man to go to Mars. I need Taco

825
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,239
Fall to be a Martian. He needs to be Matt

826
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,360
and damon just planting potatoes.

827
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: He does look like an alien a little bit, justin't

828
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,119
it's just freakishly tall, but he's like also got the

829
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:53,880
long limbs of an alien. You know what I mean,

830
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,679
like the long, slinky limbs of an alien.

831
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,599
Speaker 1: So it's Wendy.

832
00:39:59,159 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he does.

833
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,199
Speaker 1: I think Wendy's taller, isn't he. I don't know.

834
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: I think he's about to say, okay, yeah, but they're

835
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,159
the same.

836
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: They're both aliens. They both look like fucking aliens.

837
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,559
Speaker 2: So in thirty seven, the British setup shop on Gardner Island,

838
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,199
or some British settlers or whatever, I guess.

839
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're part of the anyway.

840
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 2: Around nineteen forty a skull is discovered and buried, but

841
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,280
British colonial officer Jared Gallagher learned about it later and

842
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,239
he wanted to see the remains. They found some artifacts,

843
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,679
including rings. They found more bones, a bottle, a shoe,

844
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,599
and a sextant box under the island's southeast corner.

845
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:41,079
Speaker 3: It's like a navigation thing, I think.

846
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,679
Speaker 1: Anyway.

847
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: In nineteen forty Gallagher radio Didsuperiors that he found a skeleton,

848
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:48,760
possibly that of a woman. In nineteen eighty eight, the

849
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,320
Historical Aircraft Recover Group began an investigation into these bones.

850
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: I just feel like they could determine that with DNA.

851
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,199
Speaker 2: Now, well, here's the thing. The British guy in nineteen

852
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,039
forty saw the bones and was like, oh right, found

853
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:06,599
some boutons.

854
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: Might be a woman. Think it's a mine. We're gonna

855
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:09,920
tight some.

856
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,039
Speaker 2: Pictures, and then they just threw the bones away. The

857
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:17,679
Aircraft Recovery Historical Group found some more stuff, including improvised tools,

858
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,559
an aluminum panel, an oddly cut piece of clear plexiglass,

859
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,840
and his size nine woman's cat paw shoe heel.

860
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: She was a size nine what's five eight? Yeah, they

861
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,239
got some big old stompers, big broad um dude. Yeah,

862
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,480
that caused the plane to crash. Certainly she's too big

863
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:42,360
for the the fucking cockpit.

864
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. So now that's theory number one. Theory number two

865
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,960
is the Japanese got her.

866
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: They shut her down. Yeah.

867
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: Arhart and Noonan were shot down and or captured by

868
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Japanese forces.

869
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: Uh caial Japan got her. Yeah.

870
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty six.

871
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: A spy for the Chinese.

872
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get to that. In nineteen sixty six,

873
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,960
CBS to an investigation. Our CBS journalists wrote a book

874
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,199
about it.

875
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: I should say.

876
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: Earhart and Noonan were captured and executed when their air

877
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,280
aircraft crashed on the island of Saipan. If you remember,

878
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:20,079
it's nineteen thirty seven, so World War II has already

879
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,320
started for the Japanese.

880
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: They've been going for a few years.

881
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: They take a saber door, dude, maybe cut her head

882
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,719
clean off. Yeah, maybe we're her boobs like they used to.

883
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: They did that. They did do that too.

884
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: They did some really messed up stuff, guys.

885
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,679
Speaker 2: So Saipan is probably too far away from Howland Island

886
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,800
her target to a been it. However, there's another highpotsis

887
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,199
that suggests that it was the Marshall Islands, which Japan

888
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:56,039
was at as well. That's slightly more possible. In nineteen ninety,

889
00:42:56,159 --> 00:43:00,840
the show Unsolved Mysteries did a show well yeah, with

890
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,440
an interview with a woman who claimed to have witnessed

891
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,599
Earhart and Noonan's execution by Japanese soldiers.

892
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 1: That's sweet. I thought it was gonna be a woman

893
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:10,360
that claimed to be Amelia Earhart.

894
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,039
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just someone who saw her get her

895
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:14,320
head chopped off or something.

896
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I guess. Jesus, you survive a plane crash, you know,

897
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,400
that's like a one in a million chance, and then

898
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,199
you get captured by the Japanese and they just behead you.

899
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet, like I s would have taken the plane crash.

900
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: I think I go out with the plane crasd instead

901
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,840
of execution. Yeap, because who knows what the Japanese did

902
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,800
to her before they executed her.

903
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:38,519
Speaker 3: It probably wasn't great.

904
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: No, not them. But also we're going into war airspace. Yeah,

905
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,039
maybe not the best idea.

906
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: So the other theory is that she wasn't captured, she

907
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,079
was just shot down.

908
00:43:53,119 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but there's the signal after the fact. Yeah.

909
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:06,519
Speaker 2: This theory is less accepted since the end of World

910
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,239
War Two, though there is a location on Tinian, which

911
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,119
is about five miles southwest of Saipan, that is rumored

912
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:16,280
to have the grave of two aviators. However, an archaeological

913
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,360
dig failed to find anything. A recent proponent of this

914
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,960
theory Mike Campbell. He published a book in twenty twelve

915
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:26,000
called Amelia Earhart The Truth at Last seems like a

916
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:33,480
dubious title. He claimed that Marshall Islanders saw a crash

917
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,599
and a US Army sergeant found a suspicious grave site

918
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:43,079
near a former Japanese prison on Saipan, and there is

919
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,480
another theory.

920
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: It's the theory I hope is.

921
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:53,119
Speaker 2: True, and that is she was shot down and or

922
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:54,760
captured by the Japanese alive.

923
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,519
Speaker 1: Oh, she became a Ronan.

924
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:06,119
Speaker 2: No no, taken back to Japan and forced to become

925
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:07,079
Tokyo rows.

926
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: Is it the woman that would just make fun of

927
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,639
Americans on the radio.

928
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's like.

929
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:17,679
Speaker 2: You are going to die, oh geas, you're all gonna

930
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,119
die tomorrow. Four h men at home are sleeping with

931
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:27,239
your girls. Why are you fighting, silly idiots? Your chicks

932
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,800
are getting plowed and we're going to murder you.

933
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: But in a Japanese English accent.

934
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: No, it was.

935
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,519
Speaker 2: A good accent. Oh, it's like a good American accent.

936
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah hmm.

937
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,639
Speaker 2: So maybe it was a Japanese you could just you know,

938
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
lived in America for a while, who knows. Or maybe

939
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,719
it was Amelia Earhart with a gun to her head

940
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:51,320
telling our boys in blue that their girls were at

941
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,159
home getting drilled.

942
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: It was a Millia all. Look, that's the theory I

943
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,679
root for, I hope for. Yeah.

944
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's to say, you.

945
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,519
Speaker 1: Gotta do what you gotta do? Is? I agree? I

946
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:07,519
don't really blame her for threatening gis. She's saving her

947
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:07,920
own life.

948
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,599
Speaker 3: They listened to it for fun. It wasn't it didn't work.

949
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: No, they're laughing at it.

950
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: There's literally a scene in the Pacific where they're like

951
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,719
listening to it for shits and gigs, like where they're like,

952
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,000
this is.

953
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: The funniest suremany did something similar.

954
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: They did, they did the exact same thing.

955
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: That's sweet. We I mean, if we go to war now,

956
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,320
we should do the same to locals. Oh yeah, we

957
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,679
should just terrorize. Oh my god, pay me to write

958
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,000
for that.

959
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,199
Speaker 2: Americans probably Brits too, but Americans and Brits in particular,

960
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
it's just like the worst possible set of people to

961
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,000
use that tactic on. It will only amuse them, it won't.

962
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:43,440
It won't make them angry even.

963
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,119
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna scare us. It's not gonna make

964
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:49,719
us angry. We're just gonna be pretty apathetic to it.

965
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,119
Speaker 2: It's just funny, Like it's just like, dude, turn at

966
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:52,760
Tokyo ros.

967
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,039
Speaker 3: This shit cracks me up.

968
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Some guys are probably strogging off to it.

969
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Because and do you know so I think to get

970
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:04,000
them to listen to Tokyo rows, that Japanese would play

971
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,119
like popular.

972
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Songs, yeah, in between it, and then she would come

973
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,199
in and.

974
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: DJ DJ it's five past the hour and your wife

975
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,800
is getting railroaded.

976
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: By some Chinese man over in your country who is

977
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,840
building a railroad.

978
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,159
Speaker 2: Why are you dying for him, you fucking idiot.

979
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Japanese would always just make it racist against

980
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:24,920
other Asians.

981
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna check a card, that's

982
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,480
a good one for nineteen forties America.

983
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why not?

984
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:35,760
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dot m E slash Softcore. Another theory, she was a

1038
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,880
spy for Franklin Roosevelt. It was a it was an

1039
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,559
information finding mission. Now how do we how do we

1040
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:21,639
get to this theory. Well, it turns out there was

1041
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,239
a movie in nineteen forty three called Flight for Freedom,

1042
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:28,239
in which a fictional female aviator who was completely inspired

1043
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,639
by your.

1044
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Heart classic intelligence operation. Here they do the act and

1045
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:39,519
then they put it out in media and they flaunt

1046
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:40,400
it in our faces.

1047
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1048
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: Everyone saw that movie and was like, Oh, maybe that's

1049
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,599
what she did. And that's it. That's the whole that's

1050
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,679
the whole theory. That's the whole reason people think she

1051
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,960
was a spy for Roosevelt. They saw a movie in

1052
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:52,960
nineteen forty three.

1053
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Well, dude, in a nick cage, maybe this guy named

1054
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,239
Charlie Kirkman got shot in the neck.

1055
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:02,519
Speaker 3: Is that real?

1056
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think kirk Lynn or Kirkman, I forget,

1057
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:10,039
but there was a nick cage movie in the nineties

1058
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:12,679
where that character gets shot right through the neck.

1059
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:16,519
Speaker 2: Is it sure it's not Charlie Coffman. Nope, it's not

1060
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:17,079
that one movie.

1061
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: It's a character name.

1062
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,039
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not adaptation. No, wait, what was his name

1063
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:22,559
in adaptation?

1064
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:23,519
Speaker 3: Was it Charlie Coffman?

1065
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know adaptation. Well, damn it, you brought it

1066
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,559
up that I didn't bring that up at all. You

1067
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:33,320
brought a wildly different movie. Yeah.

1068
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: So, yeah, he plays Charlie Coffin. They didn't change the

1069
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,519
name to Charlie Kirkland. I've never seen the movie. I

1070
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:40,719
don't know if he gets shot in the neck or not.

1071
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,159
Speaker 1: It's called Snake Eyes. Oh yeah, not even remotely close

1072
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:46,800
to adaptation.

1073
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,639
Speaker 3: Nope, his name was Charlie. An adaptation though clearly plays

1074
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:53,400
a lot of Charlie.

1075
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: Ka Charles Kirkland assassinated in Snake Eyes in ninety eight

1076
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,599
movie he gets shot through the neck.

1077
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,199
Speaker 2: Called it, dude, fucking called it. Isn't Snake Eyes about

1078
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:06,039
like a snuff film ring or something? Who It's certainly

1079
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:07,559
not about anything.

1080
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,039
Speaker 1: Charlie kirk talked about face off. Yeah.

1081
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 2: There has been recent breaking news aside from the file

1082
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,679
release on this.

1083
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: We got her, ladies and gentlemen, we got her.

1084
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: We got her.

1085
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: A new forensic analysis of the bones found on Gardner

1086
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,000
Island strongly suggests they belong to a Millia Arehart. Now

1087
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,480
we don't have those bones anymore, but we have photographs

1088
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,039
toss in the trash and yeah, just in the garbage.

1089
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,599
We have photographs of all not even like a grave.

1090
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,119
Just nope, Yeah, a bin. Yeah, like as the British

1091
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:48,440
would say, a bin. They threw it in a bin.

1092
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,599
But they did take good photographs of the bones. They

1093
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,159
were originally ruled out as belonging to Earhart because they

1094
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,760
were thought to be male. But a scientist ran the

1095
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,960
bones measurements through modern forensic.

1096
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: Software through a photo.

1097
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, compared them to estimations I'm already out of air

1098
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,679
Heart's height and.

1099
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: Bone length and stuff like that.

1100
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: Based on her other photographs and what we knew about her.

1101
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:14,079
The analysis found that not only are the bones female,

1102
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,320
they match Earhart with a better than ninety nine percent

1103
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,039
chance compared to other individuals. The Gardener Island bones were

1104
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:25,679
air hearts. They crashed on Gardener Island. Crash landed on

1105
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,400
Gardener Island on the reef, got out of there, were

1106
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,519
both injured. Plane washes away they get to shore. Since

1107
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:35,440
they don't even know how to fly the thing that

1108
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,199
they were supposed to know how to do, I assume

1109
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,559
they weren't very good at surviving.

1110
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: Either died within a week.

1111
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:42,079
Speaker 1: They died in a week.

1112
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:44,599
Speaker 2: Well, either that or they were so fast they were

1113
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,480
too beat Well, dude, Fred was badly hurt, so that

1114
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:48,079
makes sense.

1115
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:52,679
Speaker 1: Whatever she couldn't survive a week. She couldn't.

1116
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,079
Speaker 3: She couldn't use the shit in her plane.

1117
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: People go on like naked and afraid and survive twenty

1118
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,119
days and they don't know how to survive.

1119
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: You know what. She was five to eight weigh one

1120
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,360
hundred and ten pounds.

1121
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,039
Speaker 2: Not a lot to eat on that body, tall glass water, Yeah,

1122
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,239
but nothing nothing for the body to feed on.

1123
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, got to think of.

1124
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: Flat ass, you're tired. Oh yeah, no, flat ass all

1125
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:25,239
over it. But yeah, so that is almost certainly they

1126
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,400
were able to hit Gardner Island, get on the reef,

1127
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,480
get off. Maybe she wasn't dead yet, but she was

1128
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:35,039
just too weak to like get out and wave to

1129
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,000
the planes that flew over like a week later.

1130
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: I like to think she could have gotten out of

1131
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,800
it and she died in just buffoonish fashion.

1132
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: Running to the beach to wave them down, trips over a.

1133
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,599
Speaker 1: Rock and just smashes her head.

1134
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, there's a high high probability.

1135
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:56,679
Speaker 1: Or like she's running out in the water and like

1136
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,760
just steps on a giant piece of coral that just

1137
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,519
cuts a arter or something.

1138
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, it might have just been a coconut fell

1139
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:03,239
on her.

1140
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: Head.

1141
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:09,639
Speaker 1: Yep, that's great, and it's fitting because we derive as

1142
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:12,440
the plane crash, she's, you know, doing pretty well on

1143
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,719
the island. Maybe she evades some Japanese soldiers and then yeah,

1144
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,920
a coconut gets her.

1145
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, considering everything else that was going on with this mission,

1146
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,079
not knowing how to use anything in her plane, not

1147
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:33,159
knowing morrise code, despite knowing that she was going to

1148
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:37,559
be communicating with the US Navy to navigate, I mean,

1149
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:44,599
I don't understand how this person is a fucking hero.

1150
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,800
I don't understand how we don't shit on fred Noonan

1151
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,159
enough for being the navigator who didn't know how to

1152
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:52,360
use it. It almost makes sense for Rebulia Earhart, right, Like

1153
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,639
she's the talent, right, She's just there to hold the sticks.

1154
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: He's got to help out in some capacity.

1155
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,679
Speaker 2: This is one of the most dog shit things missions.

1156
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,280
It was doomed from the start, from the very beginning,

1157
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,119
and we're like, oh, what a brave lady who died like.

1158
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: Like early early on.

1159
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: In the attempt to circumnavigate the world.

1160
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Maybe Kamala Harris when she talked about you think you

1161
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,280
just fell out of the coconut tree, this is what

1162
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,519
she was talking about a coconut.

1163
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, killing Amelia Earhart.

1164
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: That or this guy just literally fell out of nowhere,

1165
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,519
like just totally unqualified for his position.

1166
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: Nowton, Oh yeah, he might have just been a hobo

1167
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:33,400
like just I'll do it.

1168
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, send up the hobo with.

1169
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: The broad Oh fly a plane.

1170
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Speaker 1: It's the dad from Independence.

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Speaker 2: Day, literally, except he's never been a pilot before.

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Speaker 1: He only does crop dust.

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: It's actual Randy Quaid. It's not Randy Quaid playing the character.

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It's at literal Randy Quaid.

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Speaker 1: He's been like, oh fucking do it? Why not?

1176
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: But that is the story of a Earhart, theories on

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how she died and what we think we know about it.

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,039
I don't know what the files could possibly reveal too.

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,079
Speaker 1: I hope it's that. That's my favorite. I hope that's

1180
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what I'm pulling for. We lived a long life to

1181
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:18,360
like one hundred and three as Tokyo Rose. Yeah, for

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:24,320
Imperial Japan. Oh God, please please please please leave. She

1183
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,320
got nuked.

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00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,119
Speaker 2: They were broadcasting out of like Nagasaki. Yeah, she's just

1185
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,599
like sitting there on the mic, like you American boys

1186
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:35,000
should go home.

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00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: I would like to see if Tokyo Rose had any

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,519
broadcasts after we dropped the two.

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Speaker 2: You don't think they took a day.

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00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:52,079
Speaker 3: To think about it.

1191
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,079
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if I'm in the mood to

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00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:55,639
do this show today, guys.

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,519
Speaker 1: I just want to know if we dropped a bomb,

1194
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:01,800
did Tokyo Rose do another broadcast.

1195
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,079
Speaker 3: I'll look into it.

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: We should do an episode on Tokyo Rose, be honest,

1197
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,039
I bet there's some quality one liners.

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00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, be interesting to see what the Japanese thought was

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00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:19,440
shit talking. Yeah. Yeah, they're not good shit talk. No, No,

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00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,760
imagine Otani just trying to.

1201
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: That's not their game. The Russians are the best. The

1202
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:28,000
Russian trolls do a good job. I think Chinese trolls,

1203
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:29,960
from what I've read, do like a really bad. They

1204
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,400
don't understand they're they're not Western, so they don't quite

1205
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,280
know how to get at you the way like a

1206
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Russian or Eastern European does.

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: They don't know like idioms, yeah.

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00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: And just like what would truly trigger like an American

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,320
brain to get mad?

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Now the Japanese, I feel like, would just

1211
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,440
be like super respectful with how they should talk to you.

1212
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: Your home is being dishonored, Like what don't care what

1213
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:02,360
you talking about?

1214
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: No one respects you.

1215
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I know what. Why do you think I'm the heir?

1216
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the guys are horrible at this. This tell

1217
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:20,920
me stuff I know or don't care about. Yeah, that's

1218
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,320
not how you want. No, No, Uh, what'd you learn today?

1219
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:29,719
Speaker 1: I learned that Amelia Earhart crash in the Pacific. Again.

1220
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,920
I thought this was like a Bermuda triangle thing. I've

1221
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,239
never looked into it. Really, I've never had any interest

1222
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:35,599
in it.

1223
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: Right, you knew the bullet points, That's all you need.

1224
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: I knew some broad crash you're playing right the two

1225
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,599
boss the time. Yeah, I think that was enough information.

1226
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:46,639
I think so, I don't need to know anything more

1227
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:49,239
than that. No, but now I know more, and I

1228
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,159
can tell people that she became a Japanese broadcaster.

1229
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,199
Speaker 3: After being a horrible pilot.

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't even blame her either. I think she was

1231
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:05,400
put pushed by the American feminist movement when she wasn't

1232
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,840
ready and she wasn't necessarily qualified for the mission, to

1233
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:11,840
kind of just get a point on the board.

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,199
Speaker 2: I don't hate that theory, to be honest, Like, I

1235
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:19,039
really think that that's potentially valid.

1236
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: Like she was pushed out I'm gonna have to see

1237
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,400
her interviews and see her kind of just demeanor, demeanor

1238
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,079
and body language. If she's like freaking out the entire time,

1239
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,760
she's like, oh, yeah, I'm ready to go up. Yeah

1240
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:38,719
should be good, Everything should be good. It's top of

1241
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,239
the line.

1242
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: Got this new plane. What's better than a new plane?

1243
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1244
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:49,159
Speaker 1: Or she could have been like super Khaki, Yeah, that

1245
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:53,199
honestly is better. If she was just she thought her

1246
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:53,960
shit didn't stink.

1247
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:56,239
Speaker 3: Just real, I am woman, hear me roar.

1248
01:00:58,039 --> 01:00:59,559
Speaker 1: Immediately takes off an even.

1249
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, like the flight length of a Leyah.

1250
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:09,639
Who's today's hitler?

1251
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say maybe the American Nazi Party that she

1252
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:22,039
got involved with, well with Charles Lindberg, I think, or

1253
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:25,760
that you know acxis. She could have been Japanese. Lindberg

1254
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,400
went German.

1255
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: She went Japanese.

1256
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: Right, all pilots go axis.

1257
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,639
Speaker 2: Look, the zero was a great plane. Too early in

1258
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:34,960
the war. We eventually built shit that just clowned it.

1259
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: But who did the Italians take? Fucking nobody? I can't

1260
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:41,159
even I could.

1261
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:44,519
Speaker 2: I couldn't even think of like who washed up celebrity

1262
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:48,400
would like the current example would be like the Italians.

1263
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: Got Dimaggia wasn't like a huge Mussolini fan.

1264
01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:53,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll have to look into that to

1265
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,840
be honest.

1266
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,119
Speaker 1: Weren't they like questioning Joey when he was playing his

1267
01:01:58,239 --> 01:01:59,440
loyalty to America?

1268
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: Italians were getting smoke? For sure.

1269
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: It's weird to think about because they're like, huh, you

1270
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,800
guys are kind of bucking you.

1271
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: Sure you're uh what out of this country on our team?

1272
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know anything about the old country.

1273
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I barely speak it. I like spaghetti. I guess

1274
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,239
does that count.

1275
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,039
Speaker 1: Pizzas from New York? Yeah, I don't know.

1276
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,159
Speaker 2: Also what's funny is the Italians.

1277
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: This is like I don't know how true. Like I'd

1278
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,719
have to look more into it.

1279
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,679
Speaker 2: But from what I've read recently, the Italians that are American,

1280
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,079
like the Italian Americans, they're mostly Southern Italian right Sicily

1281
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:42,280
Southern Italy stuff like that. Yeah, and the Italy Italians

1282
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,039
most of them are like those are our garbage, Like

1283
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:51,480
northern and Central Italy is not what's here, And Northern

1284
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:53,880
and Central Italy think the South.

1285
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:58,639
Speaker 1: And Siszilians are trash worse than that. I think, yeah,

1286
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,639
to them, not me. Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, I'm down

1287
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:02,599
with the Sicilians.

1288
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,199
Speaker 3: I love a Sicilian pizza.

1289
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: But also the Sicilians were like the mobsters, right yeah, so.

1290
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: Back I think it might be like their Appalachia.

1291
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: There you go is Sicily essentially yeah, so or they're

1292
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,880
Baltimore or there or they're Baltimore.

1293
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah either way. Well that's all I got for today.

1294
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: On what you will probably learn from the Amelia Airheart

1295
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,760
files is that she collaborated with the Japanese.

1296
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,559
Speaker 1: That's what I hope.

1297
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what That's.

1298
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:33,039
Speaker 1: What we're all rooting for, we're all cheering for it,

1299
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:33,960
and that.

1300
01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: She had a truly horrible mission that we celebrate for

1301
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:41,119
some reason.

1302
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1303
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: I really didn't know that. Like when I started reading it,

1304
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:48,000
like my jaw was on the floor. I was like,

1305
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,480
this cannot all be fucking true. Yeah, which is the

1306
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:54,800
funniest part to me by far.

1307
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's all I got.

1308
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,679
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1309
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1313
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1314
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:20,239
Speaker 1: Just did an episode on Grover Cleveland's lady Girl, his sweetie,

1315
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,480
his girl. Yeah, sweet pet twenty seven years younger.

1316
01:04:25,639 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this girl that.

1317
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,519
Speaker 1: He raised and groomed. I'm gonna do a short on

1318
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,880
that too. Oh yeah, yeah, it's coming soon.

1319
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,119
Speaker 2: Groomer Cleveland g yeah, yeah, I need like a quick

1320
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,039
three seconds that gets people hooked.

1321
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:42,719
Speaker 1: So Groomer Cleveland's good.

1322
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: We're talking about our president that was.

1323
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: A groomer, not the one in office. Now.

1324
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you won't find Grover Cleveland in the Epstein files,

1325
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:52,199
but if he was alive, he would.

1326
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,159
Speaker 1: Have been Oh he would have raised those girls as

1327
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:55,519
his own and then married them.

1328
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:57,559
Speaker 2: Just call that, just call it the president who would

1329
01:04:57,559 --> 01:04:58,679
have been in the Epstein file.

1330
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:01,119
Speaker 3: That'll probably get some views.

1331
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: No, people are stupid, People are dumb. Yeah.

1332
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: Uh, that's all I got for today. So for Damner Jester,

1333
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,119
I'm Rob Fox.

1334
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: You just got saucer