WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:00.280 Hm. 2 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:39.439 Welcome to the typical sleptocad chest, where we dive you 3 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.200 decide your questioning the matrix from you wear poes with 4 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.200 shadows and m besides overside, overside rock Khalil bust some 5 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.640 myths like ghosts in the night, Norman pros in. 6 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:54.479 Secret space out here we're keeping real, No frighten, no fright. 7 00:00:54.399 --> 00:01:05.120 NOPs and discuss from the Fats to Ancients, descripts. 8 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.200 Down out the mouse King oh. 9 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.879 Sees peak stample, We just man those fable mals, targets, 10 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:14.359 soul spreading out of distable Darman halpic for corouge, gifted 11 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:19.159 in the mystic In reality you can't resistant twist, soul trapped, snapping, 12 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:21.120 reading condition mapping, Holland at. 13 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:22.239 The dreams and their divisions. 14 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:25.040 Out of body missions, waking up the teams, No sensor 15 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.640 sire fere, no release scheme to supricy Kings bringing veils 16 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:35.680 here to freedom rings. 17 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:38.319 Extra for prest dimensional Welcome to the typical skeptic clatch. 18 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:42.400 Welcome to Typical Skeptic podcast. Be sure to like, subscribe 19 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:54.239 and turn on notifications. Welcome to Typical Skeptic podcast. Be 20 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.799 sure to like, subscribe and turn on notifications. 21 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.719 Hey guys, Welcome back to another episode of the Typical 22 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.400 Skeptic podcast. I got my guest with me. I'm going 23 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:08.960 to bring him to the stage in the second. He 24 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.719 has an amazing story I wrote tonight on the Typical 25 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:16.520 Skeptic podcast. Excuse me, welcome's first time guest, Justin Dobenmeyer, 26 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:19.680 better known as the Blind Exorcist, for a serious investigation 27 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:24.280 into Christian exorcism, demonic oppression, deliverance, trauma, and spiritual warfare. 28 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.680 Justin is completely blind, but he believes his physical blindness 29 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:31.039 has not prevented him from realizing confirming forces most people 30 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.360 cannot see. According to Justin, his journey began after and 31 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.800 during nearly thirty years of what eventually came to understand 32 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.479 as the demonic oppression and possession. His personal deliverance experience 33 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:44.719 introduced him to renowned extressist Bob lars And, whose techniques 34 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:48.520 he studied before completing formal training at the International International 35 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.719 School of Exorcism. Today, Justin describes himself as a certified 36 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:56.240 Christian exorcist and deliverance minister. He conducts sessions, virtually, hosts 37 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.759 the Blind Exorcist podcast, and interviews people who say they 38 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.439 have a experienced spiritual torment, demonic oppression, and freedom through 39 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:07.319 Christian deliverance. Tonight will investigate how completely blind Man became 40 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:11.039 an exorcist, Justin's personal battle with spiritual oppression. His own 41 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:14.800 experience is undergoing exorcism training methods of Bob Larson. How 42 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:19.840 exorcists identified demonic activity. The difference is between temptation, oppression, attachment, 43 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.680 and possession, and whether trauma can create spiritual vulnerabilities, generation, 44 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.120 general crisis and spiritual open doors and a bunch of stuff, 45 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.199 and you know. Yeah, So I'm bringing him to the 46 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.599 stage now, and Justin, thank you so much for coming 47 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:36.800 on for the first time. How are you. 48 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.240 I'm doing great. Thank you for having me Rob, And 49 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.479 hello to everyone watching. I'm excited to be here and 50 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.159 coach train and answer questions. Yeah. 51 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:51.879 I think how someone I interviewed Dark Waters and I 52 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.080 put like one of our one of the recent interviews 53 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:56.520 I did with Dark Waters. I reposted it and then 54 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.479 I think someone from Dark Waters Entertainment saw that and 55 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.400 they reached out to me about having you on. And 56 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.240 then when I heard your story, I was fascinated with it. 57 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.039 You know, I feel like entity attachments myself. You know 58 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.719 and still might be here and there. You know, I'm 59 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.400 trying to understand what it is you know. 60 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:14.479 Understood. 61 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.000 So what happened? How did you end up blind? Where 62 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:19.920 have you been blind your whole life? For what happened? 63 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.160 I have not. I lost my eyes sight from type 64 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.680 one diabetes and when I was seventeen years old, so 65 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:35.000 I got my license. When I was sixteen, I was like, yes, independence, 66 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:39.319 So I drove for six months, started having complications. It's 67 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.680 called diabetic hypnopathy. This happened in the late eighties, and 68 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.879 I went for laser treatments on both of my eyes, 69 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:51.240 and the treatments blinded me. So by age seventeen, I 70 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.600 was completely blinded. 71 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.800 Oh my god, I'm so sorry you had to go 72 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:56.800 through that. That's horrible. 73 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.240 You know, It's been one of the best gifts I've 74 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:03.399 ever received life, Strangely, Yes, it was challenging. Yes, I 75 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:09.959 lost my identity. Yes I was depressed, but processing through 76 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.519 grief outstanding experience throughout my life. 77 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.639 Have you ever have you ever heard of mindsight like 78 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.240 they practiced at the current side games like I reinterviewed 79 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.399 you guys names Hakeem Meisler, and he says, there they're 80 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.759 actually practicing something at the side, games called mindset, where 81 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:31.319 people are actually seen with their mind abilities. Would you 82 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.480 would you agree with that that's a thing and is 83 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:34.600 that kind of what happens with you? 84 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:40.439 Well, no, I wouldn't say that for me. Just to 85 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.079 give a little bit of background in context here, because 86 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:51.040 my story is a bit bizarre. After going blind, I 87 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:56.319 attended university as a blind student for a degree first 88 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.920 in social work. Two and a half years I was 89 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:04.439 and social work and trained a lot about family dynamics, 90 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:12.759 family functions, family systems, dysfunction within families, childhood trauma, all 91 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:19.920 the foundational psychological frameworks like Rogerian, Freudian, all those guys right, 92 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:27.319 so active listening, all this stuff. I use those skill sets. 93 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:31.800 I was taught in exorcism because most people I work 94 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.399 with come from trauma. I will get into this, but 95 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:40.079 demons enter through trauma. That's one way, okay. I transferred 96 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:44.240 to computer programming and I actually worked as a software 97 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.439 engineer for twenty five years before I retired. I'm fifty 98 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:53.360 four years old now and I worked on all Microsoft technology. 99 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:57.759 I was in Azure Cloud, I program micro services. I 100 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.720 trained programming teams on domain driven design, So I was 101 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.480 a trainer for a lot of my career. And the 102 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:11.480 reason I mentioned this is because I am a rational, logical, 103 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:18.120 critical thinker, so it's not natural for me to believe 104 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:23.319 in the supernatural. I am forced into this through my 105 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:28.199 personal experiences. So that's just a little bit of again, 106 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:34.240 like if I'd ever had personal severe paranormal conditions and 107 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:38.639 actual demon possession myself, I would be a skeptic and 108 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.800 believe that this is not true. But yeah, this is 109 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.319 how I kind of got into this. 110 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.160 Can I ask you one question before we get into 111 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.600 the demonic president Easem? I'm sure the audience wants to 112 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.399 know this, like how is it like getting around and stuff? 113 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:54.959 Like how do you I mean, like, do you have 114 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.959 like computer software that iss iss you? Or do you 115 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:59.959 have people that assist you? Or like is it. 116 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.399 Yeah, yeah, sure absolutely. I love to teach people how 117 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:12.480 I do what I do. I use a Windows laptop desktop, 118 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:16.439 just like anyone else. I install software on there. It's 119 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:21.199 called JAWS for Windows. JAWS for short. It is an 120 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.879 audible voice that reads everything to me on the screen. 121 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.879 So when I type the word, it speaks every keypress 122 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:33.240 tune me out. The computer speakers tche and then I 123 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.279 hit the space bar. It says space. So this is 124 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.440 how I was able to code as someone who's blind. 125 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.799 If A is less than B, do this else, do that, right. 126 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:48.879 So code programming is nothing but text source code. Right. 127 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.600 So this is how I use technology. Emails come in, 128 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.440 it's read to me. I use an iPhone. It comes 129 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:02.519 with a built in screen reader. That's what this technology 130 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:06.679 is called screen reader. It's a computerized voice that reads 131 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.200 the screen to you. Thus, screen reader and all Apple 132 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.519 devices come with voiceover where you can turn on. You 133 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.279 can just tell Siri turn on voiceover and it'll start 134 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.799 speaking to you and you can turn it off. But 135 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:28.919 my text messagers are all read audibly. I don't know 136 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:34.000 Braille because when I started university in the mid nineties 137 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.480 there was a lot of talking technology already there. And 138 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.279 so getting around, I have been trained to use a cane, 139 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.759 so I use a white cane and you know, kind 140 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:52.480 of tap around. I do use sited guides and fortunately 141 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.960 for me with my computer programming background, I love AI. 142 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:01.320 I use AI a lot, and the blind community is 143 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:06.480 very excited about AI because, for example, we have smart 144 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:09.679 glasses that are coming. They'll be out here in a 145 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:14.320 couple of months, very similar to meta glasses by Facebook, 146 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.279 but they're specifically made for the blind so that we 147 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.240 can read a book. We can flip page by page, 148 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:24.039 and the glasses as a camera in a center, takes 149 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:25.879 a picture and reads it to us, so we can 150 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.360 sit and read a book. If something we dropped on 151 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.480 the ground we can't find, the glasses can look around 152 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:36.679 and guide us to that object. Oh yeah, it gets better. 153 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.279 We got it. And I encourage everyone to find this 154 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.960 on YouTube and watch this. You will be blown away. 155 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.919 There's a device called Glide. It's made by a company 156 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.840 called Glidance, and I believe their website is glidence dot io. 157 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:58.399 But anyhow, this device is one hundred percent AI driven 158 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.120 and it's a replacement if people desire, which of course 159 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:10.240 I do, for seeing eye dogs or canes. And it's 160 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:14.879 got very awesome cameras on it. It's on large like 161 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.559 eight inch wheels and you just hold it with your 162 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:22.639 hand and the AI guide you literally keeps you on sidewalks. 163 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.159 You can walk through the mall. It'll walk you around people. 164 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.000 It will walk you to a door right by the 165 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:35.559 handle and stop. It has vibration modes that you know 166 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.279 if something's low hanging, it might vibrate once. So they've 167 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.519 come together and created this device where literally, as a 168 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:47.000 blind person, I could hold onto this and go jogging. 169 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:52.120 So this is revolutionary for blind travel. So I use 170 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.559 Uber a lot to get around. But where I'm going, 171 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.159 I'm going to friend zones, family homes, speaking events, so 172 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.919 people are already waiting for me. But when I get 173 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:03.879 this device, if I want to go to the mall 174 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.759 and jump out and wear these smart glasses that will 175 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.639 read menus to me store names, and hold onto this 176 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.960 glide device and walk through the mall, I literally can 177 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.320 independently go into a mall and go shopping entirely by myself. 178 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.679 Wow, I got a question for your accent. Sounds familiar? 179 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.440 Are you from Pennsylvania by any chance? 180 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:28.519 I'm from Ohio Northeast. 181 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.759 Okay, okay, you got the You got the Pittsburgh unser 182 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.480 type accent, Like I can sense it, you know what 183 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.080 I mean? Like I know that accent anywhere you know 184 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.720 that's that's definitely a Pittsburgh, Ohio accent. Right? 185 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:41.799 Absolutely? 186 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:43.759 So Who's who's your football team? 187 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:45.360 Do you have a football Do you like the I 188 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:46.200 love the Steelers. 189 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.240 I always have. Yeah. Oh nice cool, Yeah, yeah. 190 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.200 I was raised in Youngstown, Ohio, a suburb of Youngstown, 191 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.120 but it was a big steel still city, Youngstown. 192 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:56.440 Uh. 193 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:00.679 We made a lot of uh all kinds of stuff 194 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.080 for World War two. So it's like this big steel city. 195 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.480 All the steel mills shut down. But because of that 196 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:11.000 Steel Association and the Pittsburgh Steelers that whole steel equals steel. 197 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.840 A lot of people in this northeast Ohio toward Pennsylvania 198 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:18.399 love the Steelers. 199 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.039 Yeah. Are you excited about the new coaches here? Just 200 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.440 before we get into the well McCarthy, and do you 201 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.519 like the fact that Aaron Rodgers might be coming back? 202 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.919 I think so. Yeah, And to be honest with you, 203 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.360 it's hard for me. I'll be honest, I am so 204 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.519 busy as an exorcist. I don't have a whole lot 205 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.000 of time to continue to follow. But I'm gonna make 206 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.240 it a point. I told myself this this fall, I've 207 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:46.919 got to get back and pick it back up. 208 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:52.159 The Steelers. Yeah, so let's talk about your And that's awesome. 209 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.519 It's so cool that I can sense that accent. It's 210 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:55.080 it's weird. 211 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:58.360 You know, where are you from? 212 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.639 I'm from Pittsburgh, Penncil. I'm twenty minutes north of the 213 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:06.559 city and you know around like the Lower Boro, Cantanning, 214 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.320 New Kensington. I'm just doing around that area. 215 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:14.480 I used to work in Cranberry, Pennsylvania for a software company. 216 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.559 I know where Cranberry is. Yeah, I know. I used 217 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.840 to go to school out at Laroche and okay, you 218 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.320 know what I mean, like got in North Hilda. 219 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.879 Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, Pittsburgh's great. 220 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:25.080 Man. 221 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.879 I I went through a kidney transplant in January twenty 222 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:31.799 twenty one right in the middle of COVID and I 223 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:36.440 got transplanted at UPMC wow pitch work. Yeah great. 224 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.279 How do you meet Dark Waters because he's from the Louisiana. 225 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:44.320 Right, Yeah, he's from Louisiana. U. He reached out to 226 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.080 me and asked if I come on a show for 227 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.000 an interview, and I said absolutely, yeah. 228 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:54.000 I like he's I've always deemed him as the master storyteller, 229 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:55.440 you know what I mean. I think he really is. 230 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:59.519 I lovely for reason, dude. I never listened to my 231 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:01.159 old stuff back again, but like I. 232 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.279 Could always go with one of my interviews. You know, 233 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.639 I love that dude for some resacity. He's a cool, dude, 234 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:12.120 He's great. I love interviewing with them and we still 235 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.000 keep in touch too. 236 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.399 So it's it's interesting because they'll reach out to me 237 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.720 and ask me if I can work with someone or 238 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:20.759 you know, because he has a lot of people that 239 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:25.600 talk to him, you know, that have entity attachments or demons, 240 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.200 and so you know, a lot of people have reached 241 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.440 out to me since that interview with them, and I've 242 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.440 been working with people and helping them out. 243 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.000 Man, dude, that that's kind of what's going on with me, 244 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:37.919 and I definitely I think we should probably go into 245 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:42.240 your your your your general your story of the paranormal first, 246 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:43.559 but I'll just tell you what I've been dealing with 247 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:45.960 for the past two years, on and off. I've been 248 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.120 dealing with something it feels like astral parasites, and then 249 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:51.840 it's on and off, like it seems to like amp 250 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:53.919 up during the full moons, and then it goes away 251 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.679 and then it'll come back like obviously I'm normal. I'm me, 252 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.200 Like obviously I'm not possessed right now or anything like that, 253 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.679 but like I go to bed tonight if I you know, 254 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.080 I try to listen to certain clearings because it feels 255 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.720 like there's like a like an astral snake in my bed. 256 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.759 Then it splits up into like astral parasites and it'll 257 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.919 try to like, you know, like kind of like loose 258 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:13.120 feet off me or something. 259 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:13.600 You know what I mean. 260 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:14.480 Understand. 261 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:17.600 I have so many friends who are energy healers and everything. 262 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.720 Everybody's tried to get it out of here, and it 263 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.320 just seems to persist. Like you know, I don't think 264 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.320 there's a portal open or what's going on, but you know, uh, 265 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.960 it's it's definitely. And then the other night it felt 266 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.279 like the entities were going in my ears and eyes 267 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:33.720 and stuff. When it was a full minute, it was 268 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.000 like I don't know what to do. I'm like, you know, 269 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.080 it's it's on and off though you know what I mean, 270 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:39.759 it's not all the thing. 271 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.360 Yeah, I understood, understood. 272 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.480 Have you ever heard of something like that? 273 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.240 Oh I've heard it all, brother, There's nothing you can 274 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.200 tell me that I haven't heard. Okay, just be honest 275 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.559 with you. So you got to understand that, and that 276 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.919 you know I come from a Christian worldview, right, So yeah, 277 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:04.799 obviously I'm gonna present information to everyone watching. Yes, you know, 278 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.359 I'm going to talk paranormal and everything, but you know, 279 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:09.759 I'm always going to come back to Jesus Christ in 280 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:14.200 a Christian worldview, and so you know, just I encourage 281 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.640 people keep an open mind. You know, I talk with 282 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.039 people in the New Age all the time. They book 283 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:27.759 I offer free twenty minute consultations, So I've had New 284 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.759 Age practitioners book sessions with me just to come talk. 285 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:37.359 I'm very chill, and I think most people who are 286 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:42.200 into these practices have had trauma in their life, so 287 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.839 they're trying to find something to bring healing to that trauma. 288 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:51.240 And so you know, it's it's a way that people 289 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.000 try to find healing. But from I work with people 290 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.559 all the time. Like I just work with a client 291 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:03.000 that you know, she'd been in fifty different New Age practices. 292 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:05.720 And I don't know if you're familiar with that term 293 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:11.279 New Age, but it's just these conglomerate of practices that 294 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.200 spiritual practices, right that are supposed to bring peace to people. 295 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.200 So it's interesting and I shared this on a Dark 296 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:23.519 Waters interview. You know, it's like when I meet with 297 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.759 these clients, I said, you know, there shouldn't be a 298 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.559 need for you to have ten practices or fifteen or 299 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:35.079 fifty plus practices to maintain peace, like these should work, 300 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:39.319 like you should be able to find one practice and 301 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.079 that should bring you peace that lasts like this shouldn't 302 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:46.720 keep breaking, so then you've got to go to the 303 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.400 next one, and then that works for a little and 304 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.960 it stops. Then you go to the next one and 305 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.240 that works for a little and then it stops. So 306 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.680 people are trying to find peace, so they use a 307 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:01.400 spiritual practice for so long and it stops working. So 308 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.079 then they go to the next and the next and 309 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.039 the next. And from a Christian worldview, what happens is 310 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.759 they're looking for that golden thread to tie all of 311 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:16.680 this together to try to bring emotional healing right to 312 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.880 the trauma stay've experience. So it's like, Okay, we're going 313 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.480 to do reiki energy healing. Then we're going to do 314 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.559 crystal work. Then we'll do mindfulness meditation, and we'll do 315 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.279 the law of attraction. I mean, on and on. It 316 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:33.359 goes like there's so many practices out there. I don't 317 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.799 even try to keep up with them all because my 318 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:40.480 clients that come, they just there's so many. But what 319 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.920 happens is eventually people come to the place where nothing's 320 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:51.279 helping and nothing's permanent. They don't have permanent, unbreakable peace, 321 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.160 so they start having a lot of paranormal problems, and 322 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:01.200 the distant cleansings aren't working, and people coming in and 323 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:07.279 doing sage cleansing isn't working, and so they're tormented, and 324 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:12.240 they're tormented by demons because a lot of these spiritual practices, 325 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.440 as crazy as it sounds, opens people up to demons, 326 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:21.440 and demons have one purpose vexing and tormenting. So this 327 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:24.680 is why a lot of times people in these practices. 328 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:28.279 I work with energy healers SPAM where they do an 329 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:33.039 energy healing session and they've blacked out and they can't 330 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:35.640 get out of bed for two days, and so then 331 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:39.680 they contact their their guru and says, what's happening, Oh, 332 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:44.680 I don't know, maybe try cleansing ceremony or you know, 333 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.480 put salt down in the four corners. But they're literally 334 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:51.279 in bed for two days and can't even get out, 335 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.759 can't even move. So they come, Yeah, they come to me, 336 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.519 and they're like, what's going on? So you've got demons 337 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:01.039 and this is what's so crazy and interesting about this man. 338 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.960 These people are good people everybody that I talk to 339 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:10.720 that's into these practices, they're compassionate people, man, They're kind, 340 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:14.119 they want to help people, they want to help themselves. 341 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.839 So it's not like these are Satanists that are going 342 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.440 out and do an animal sacrifice and summoning Lucifer and 343 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.000 casting black curses on people, right, these are people who 344 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:31.799 really want to truly help, and so in their mind 345 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:35.039 when when as a Christian exercise say these are demons, 346 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:38.799 it's like, how could this be demons? Because I've seen 347 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:44.559 it help my clients, So you know, it's it's it's 348 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.599 hard for people to understand that there's demons when they see, 349 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:54.680 for example, somebody get healed during reiki energy healing session, 350 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:01.039 or like I always use this example because it's so good. Man. 351 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:04.200 A guy came to give me a quote on air 352 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:08.160 conditioning for my house, and he's like, he goes, have 353 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:09.880 you ever heard a doctor so and so? And I 354 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:11.920 said no, he goes, oh, man, he's an energy healer. 355 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.039 So he said, there's like five hundred people in a 356 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.400 room and they're all meditating and tapping in a universal energy. 357 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:21.720 And there was a guy there in a wheelchair and 358 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.640 he stood up and he was completely healed, like literally 359 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:29.400 fully healed. I said, okay, I said, I'm a Christian exorcist, 360 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.480 and he was like, you're kidding me. I said no, 361 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.240 and he's like, I was raised Roman Catholic. I said, well, 362 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.519 then you understand exorcism. I said, you want my perspective 363 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:40.160 on that. He was like yeah, I said okay. So 364 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.319 these people are meditating, and there's five hundred of them there, 365 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.920 and they're drawing on this energy and they're wanting somebody 366 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.799 to get healed. This man in the wheelchair has a 367 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:57.359 demon in him that causes the infirmity to keep him 368 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:02.079 in the wheelchair. So Satan standing there in the room 369 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.400 and he looks at that demon of infirmity and says, 370 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.519 when I tell you to let go of that man's 371 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.279 body and come out, you're gonna do it. So they're 372 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:16.960 all meditating, what they think building up universal energy. Satan 373 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.720 standing in the background with a smirk on his face, 374 00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.839 and then he points to that demon of infirmity and says, 375 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.519 loose his spine and come out of them. The guy 376 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.640 jumps up, I'm healed. I'm healed now, all of a sudden, 377 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:35.799 five hundred people may never learn about Jesus Christ and 378 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:41.680 they're on a journey of energy, universitial consciousness, oneness, and 379 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:46.799 the whole time Satan is loving it because they've been deceived. Now, 380 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.359 first of all, let me say to everyone watching, thank 381 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.599 you for your patience. I he'm a Christian exorcist. And 382 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:58.640 I know sometimes this can sound offensive. I'm not meaning 383 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.400 it to be in any way, shape or form. I'm 384 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:02.640 just sharing perspective. 385 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.079 Yeah, and I like to get all perspectives, you know 386 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.400 what I mean, especially for myself. It's been going on 387 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.960 for like, you know, like a while now, you know, 388 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.960 and it's like it's like, you know, I, yeah, like 389 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:18.480 how did you get into this? Like how did you 390 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.319 get into the field? Like what started in it? 391 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:28.000 Yeah, So back to my logical, critical thinking mind. I 392 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.559 was raised in a Christian home, but it never really 393 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.240 did anything for me. I think a lot of people 394 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:39.119 can relate to that. And so at nineteen I had 395 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:43.880 a severe case of peracarditis. I almost died. And it 396 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.240 was at that point that I became a Christian because 397 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.160 I'm like, when you face sincere death at nineteen, You're like, 398 00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.519 this is serious. So I need to figure this out. 399 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.920 So I chose Christianity, and so I surrendered my life 400 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:01.240 to Christ. And it wasn't a couple weeks past that 401 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:10.799