Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentleman, and welcome back to the ten year
Retrospecial Fuck Retrospective, Special Editions Retro Special for I'm the
dick Cutter Trash Now I'm going.
Speaker 2: By I'm the jerk Off Kirkland Patzer.
Speaker 3: I'm the nihilist dil Mus, I am this funny to
the field.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies, Jim, if you haven't guessed by the names
or the title of this up so we are reviewing
the Big Lebowski, might be wondering, why are they making
a second one?
Speaker 4: No, we're not getting ready for Jesus Roles. Yeah, have
you ever seen it?
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask I have not seen Jesus Roles.
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna dip
my toes. I've heard it's not good, but I'm I'm
gonna dip the toes and see. But that's for another time.
There's no big sequel, there's no remake, there's nothing like that.
There's no series coming out, thank god. But what we're
doing in honor of ten years, all of us, for
years we've done patroon Pholtes, or time with Patreon, or
time with different content, all these different reasons, right, but
I think it's we still pick them, but sil very
few and far between, if any. We're like, we're just
doing this one because we want to write that's you know,
luckily you patrons do that for us. But this go
around for the tenure, I thought we should do that,
and we've done that for wrong Turn, dead End, for Taylor,
we did that for Shame, for myself, and tonight today
whenever you're listening to this, we are doing this for
The Big Lebowski, directed by the Cohens Brothers.
Speaker 4: Coming on nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: This is dyl Mussel's pick, but we're gonna leave him
last so he can tell us.
Speaker 4: You know we have you can't go back.
Speaker 1: Dylan talked a little bit, just a little bit about
The Big Lebowski. We have done our top ten fair
films of all time. That is on patrons to go
get that. But I'm gonna throw to a man who
has said that won't say what he said about he
has seen it for the first time ever, and that's
mister Taylor Field. So Taylor tells your thoughts on you
know it's your first time now, so I spoiled that,
But like, had you ever been close to it?
Speaker 4: What did you know of this movie? Did your parents watch?
Did they not let you watch it? Et cetera? What
did you know about The Big Lebowski before today?
Speaker 1: And other than the you know, the roof gift that
Dylan has dropped probably a good million times since.
Speaker 4: Geekers and started.
Speaker 1: So it's that, and I'd say running out places when
he's doing the reading of the well, No, he has.
Speaker 3: Like the look of shame and he's like shaking the glass. Yeah,
that's something stupid, and I just like put that one
out there. It's great.
Speaker 4: That's too.
Speaker 1: I actually think your aggression was three, but then four
you you have dropped that one where he's reading the
homework and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I thought of a really specific one I need
now is when we're supposed to podcast on a Saturday
but it gets kicked to a Wednesday. Just whip up
the Jesus scene and he's like, fuck you in the
ass Saturday, in the ass Wednesday instead. I feel like
I need a gift of that for that very specific,
you know time where we have to read the.
Speaker 5: Starts speaking of Jesus.
Speaker 6: I just realized he's just creeping in between me and
Kirkle's crap.
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 6: So I had not heard or knew about this movie
until Dylan started popping off with it.
Speaker 5: Uh, parents never saw that I know of.
Speaker 6: It's just it's one that I was not familiar with,
and I never got around and just sitting down and
giving up the old college shry until you know, the
retro came along here, and I wish I did see
it sooner rather than later, because yeah, this movie was
just a wild ride. It was a chill ride. It
just felt like, Okay, things just spiral out of control
with just a simple misunderstanding and it just goes off
on this adventure. And yeah, there's lots of stuff that
was that was just it was good. I don't know
if I was just in the headspace that was really
just stoked for it or what was going on, because
like Madison was out of the house yesterday, teen was
asleep and so it was like seven thirty last night
and I'm making Honeyguard like chicking the kitchen. I got
it playing on like on my laptop and there, So.
Speaker 4: Did you eat after eight? No?
Speaker 5: No, No I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't eat. I nibbled on it, but I made
it for tonight's dinner. So I made it an advance,
so there's just many times.
Speaker 1: You're eating very late, and if you eat very late,
that can cause heart disease.
Speaker 6: So I'm just, oh, thank you, but no, I was.
That's what we had tonight was the honey garlic chicken
and rice. So I just wanted to like whip up
this recipe. So yesterday, yeah, I'm in there and I'm
just I'm like frighting up one head and in my
my iron or cast iron walk that I got for
Father's Day, I'm just flipping this chicken around.
Speaker 5: And I'm watching the movie.
Speaker 6: I was just in the I was having a fucking
time my life down in my Jones Soda two Joe
and SODA's in right now. It was just it was
a good time and the movie was just Yeah. I
was just I was just riding. I was riding the
high with this movie. It was great the moment that
it started and just right up to the end and
just everything that was going on. Everything with Steve Buscemi
was just making me laugh out loud when he's just
asking these questions, and it just there was a weird,
like dude, where's my car kind of vibe to this
with okay, uh.
Speaker 3: With like it said a lot of cars going missing,
so I can see that.
Speaker 6: With I don't know what else, but it's just yeah,
it was just it was a fun adventure, and I
feel like the characters were so over the exaggerated and
that that was Julianne Moore right, that was like mode Okay, yeah,
that confessedly caught me off guard.
Speaker 5: I did not expect her to be in this at all,
and just like just the dynamics.
Speaker 6: There and and whatnot and just everything, and uh, what
really cracked me up was when I can't remember the
actress's name, but she was from American Pie and uh yeah,
Jeff Tara Reid Jeff Bridges is walking walking by, like, oh,
you're missus Lebowski. She's like, oh, suck your different thousand
dollars and he's like, yeah, I used to pay a hundred.
And it's just the way he's the butler's just standing there.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh yeah, it's just so at least know
who the butler was.
Speaker 5: I know it is. I can't remember his name right now,
but I know, yes.
Speaker 4: Second, it's like, oh my god, he just thinks he's
some side.
Speaker 6: But no, I know, I know, I just I couldn't
more things, you know, this random but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But this was.
Speaker 5: This is great. I'm definitely gonna be watched it again.
Speaker 6: Uh put on the on the the plate soon here
because that was that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Mister in this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots all over.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of history of this film.
I've probably seen it like five or six times total,
but I don't think i've seen it to completion more
than like three times. So some things in the end
was it was a bit of a surprise because I
feel like the most recent where you watches like I
just started it and then never finished it, so it's
like I just didn't really remember the ending. But no,
I I remember vividly the first time I watched this.
I was over at my my uncle at my cousin's house,
and my uncle just loved this movie. Hit a poster
I I think it was Walter and and the dude
and then like like bunnies like toes essentially, and then
they're like looking at it like I think it's the
poster they had, and he just loved this movie, and
we watched it, and I had no idea what the
fuck was going on. I like did not comprehend anything.
I mean, there's not really like a plot to this,
so I don't know what I was. I guess there is,
but like as a kid, like especially than it.
Speaker 3: Ever tries to take itself seriously like it's.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a plot, but it's definitely like you're
just chilling in this world, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a great Stoner flick, you know. And as
as as a kid, it's just everything went over my head.
Like I I, I don't remember Mode at all of
the first time I watched it. But yeah, so in
recent rewatches.
Speaker 5: Though, I really really.
Speaker 2: Love this movie. I think it's it's just so such
a masterpiece. I think it's my I think it's by
far my favorite John Goodman performance, Like I just love
his character of Walter. And I mean, yeah, what's her
name there, Julianne Moore A definitely her best performance from
what I've seen, or at least what I've enjoyed from
And yeah, no, I think she's just such a such
an interesting character with very interesting mannerisms, and she just
plays it so falllessly. But like pretty much everyone does
such a great job with with their roles. There's some
many familiar faces in this in this flick that I
kind of forgot, uh forgot about in this most recent watch.
And I mean Jeff Bridges as as the as the
Dude is just is just fantastic, fantastic. He's just like
it's one thing to just play like a stoner character.
Like I've seen great versions of him in the past,
whether it's like Pineapple Express and like those versions, but
like this character, I just I just see him as
the Dude and he just has this this qua about
him and he's thrown into so many different situations in
this one movie and he just handles it the exact
same like like like, I don't know, it's just fantastic.
And I'm really excited to unpack this one with you guys,
because it's kind of hard to just encompass like one
singler I don't know phrase on this flick because there's
just so much to it. And uh, I think it's
definitely one that gets better with rewatches, at least in
my my experience at least, and it helps when you
finish the movie at least. But there's a lot of
great stuff in here. And Steep a Shammy, Yeah, good shadow, Taylor.
I think he's fantastic. He's very minor character, but he's
just so great. And yeah, he's just rolling rocks. He's
just he's feeling it, you know, like I'm just pumped
for him. I just want to be rooting for.
Speaker 5: No context. Too late to the conversation, Donnie.
Speaker 3: Me and my dad went bowling recently, and you just
sink about any quotes I was whipping out throwing rocks tonight, Richie.
Speaker 5: Just you pull your gun out in the in the
over the line. That's before they had the tech.
Speaker 2: Now if you, you know, you put your toe over
the line, it'll just buzzy and then it doesn't even count.
Speaker 5: Your score drops on you. It's fucking rude.
Speaker 1: I don't know what pulling alleys you're going to. But
you know, Kirklan he said something where he said it's
it's very hard just to describe this movie in one
phrase or whatnot. I got it for you, ooh perfection,
you know. Michael Fassbender gift dropped that. Yeah, this movie.
So this is a movie I saw in two thousand
and eight. I don't know why I did not see
it oh six, because that's when because I always say I,
oh six saw departed, and I went through the IMDb
list and I even checked, like, it's still on the
IMDb two fifty, like the top ray movies of all
times still there, So I guess I didn't goround get
around to it. Also, I just feel like it could
have been a movie I stayed away from an earlier
age because nothing like Oh Drugs. But I just feel like, Okay,
a lot of these stoner movies I had seen before
just didn't really play from it. I funny enough day
that brings up though I don't support his endorsement of it,
like Dude, Wear My Car is one of the only
like stoner movies that I actually enjoyed back then, but
I think maybe that's because Cutcher and William Scott. So
I was like, I don't know, I'll stay away for
a little bit and then Kirk will know what I'm
putting down here. Two thousand and seven, world changes again.
No count Rollman comes out and I go, man, what
who are these people? But then I don't check it
out because then the next year, Burn After Reading comes out,
which is funny because my introduction to the Coens was
No count for Old Men, and that's where I got
some stuff in the trivia. But I respect two type
of directors. Where a Tarantino, the second Tarantino movies on
you know it's him right, he does similar beats, the
just some of the comedy, the shots, the music choices,
the vibe. You just know where the Cohens you could
watch No Count for Old Men and watch this and
other a few stilistic things like these are not the
same directors at all. And I to me, some people,
you know, love when you can just tell directors stuff.
I love when a director can go direct multiple things
and say, yeah, look at it, like look at me
just flexing, you know, I can make to me, one
of the you could argue this is the greatest comedy
of all time, and then to me that's like, for me.
Speaker 4: My favorite probably my favorite Western. If not, you could argue.
Speaker 1: It's up there as far as quality wise, and they're
completely no counch. Roman's very scary movie. And after reading
so I saw that and I saw Burne after reading
and that, I remember I remember being like, oh, it's
a return to form. It's like what the Cohens did before.
And I'm not sure if you guys have seen that,
but that's very much similar, very it's a same thing.
A bunch of id idiots get tied into like a
CIA plot, and it's all a bunch of misunderstandings. And honestly,
it kind of feels like a weaker version of this movie.
But I had seen that first and then once I
like them both.
Speaker 4: Still really like.
Speaker 1: Burn after reading some Brad Pitt is phenomenal movies. Okay,
I'm gonna go start doing the backlog. Did this did
far go to the rest of the stuff, But this
was and I think I'm with Kirkland where I still
enjoyed it a lot when I saw it the first time.
Speaker 4: But it's one you just get gets better with age one.
Speaker 1: I just feel like because you're older and you can
get almost every single joke where maybe we have been
through some life experience in middle school, it's like, all right,
I can kind of appreciate this stuff.
Speaker 4: But no, this movie everybody is fine on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: But I agree with two forms as far as I
think it is my favorite John Goodman role because Matt like.
Speaker 4: He is just a fucking delight. Anytime he's on screen,
I'm smiling.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be like that, Agitatively, he's supposed to
kind of be the character you kind of love or hate,
but it turns in that love to hate situation.
Speaker 4: And same thing with Bridges.
Speaker 1: It is like a Heath Fledger, Like, I know that's
Jeff Bridges, and I know he can just do a
Super Bowl commercial of it. But in this movie specifically,
I don't see an actor. I don't see the lines
anything like that. I see the dude, and it is
just it is one that I would put maybe in
top ten, because you don't do like a.
Speaker 4: Big dramatic yell or screams or you know, anything like that.
Speaker 1: But well, I guess you do, but not in the
sense of what you think of like a oh this
you know, this desperate sad performance like Walking Phoenix and
Joker right, or it's like, oh, look, how deep is getting.
Speaker 4: I'd put this in that same.
Speaker 1: Category because it's just as hard to be this type
of character and feel natural. Because yeah, we've seen you know,
Spacoli with Sean Penny did years ago, and god, I'm
forgetting the.
Speaker 4: Movie Fast on a Ridge on High.
Speaker 1: You listen James Frankel, there's a bunch of that might say, oh,
there's tons of other good Stoners, but we've Almos also
seen tons of soner performances that are very just I
don't know, just paint by numbers. They do their whole things,
but to me, this is the bar for that. And yeah,
the movie snappy, it's very clever. You have moments which
we'll get into, like in the back half with the
porno stuff, where it's like it comes out of nowhere
but it still completely fits.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, this is a movie that honestly could watch again,
just like I watched again today to be fresh, but
watch us all time throughout the years when it kind
of pops up.
Speaker 4: But I could just watch this again.
Speaker 1: Like there's no it reminds me we did a couple
of months ago when we were talking about the vibes.
It reminds me of how I enjoy Goodfellas. But that's
like in a crime sense, right, same thing. I would
love just to keep going back to that bawlling alley,
but at the same time, don't want to follow up.
You know, I'm happy, happy where it lays. So no
fantastic movies, so I'm happy to be talking about this finally.
Speaker 4: So dell muss your journey. Why are we talking about
big Lebowski tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's thrilling that you guys all love
this movie as well. That's that's great. Yeah, I think
I've mentioned the origin story of this one a bit
for me actually on our Office Space retrospective. Weirdly enough,
because those movies and that movie were always kind of
tied for me in the sense that like early Reddit
days when I was like in middle school, high school, whatever,
just I feel like it was constantly references to those
two movies. Remember what thread, what subreddit you're in, It
was just people making jokes, you know, quoting these two movies.
And then you know, I go to the Office Space
retrospective here our thoughts on that movie, another kind of
funny one to do a retrospective on. And then at
some point, you know, in that time period, checked out
this movie for the first time. I think I think
Alex showed it to me, Alex who we used to
work at Target with as well, such as to the
Target connection. And yeah, I mean I just loved it
immediately because of how funny was, like all the great
quotes in it and all that. But I think the
reason why it was it was so strong for me,
like those first few times I watched it, and then
I just got so hooked on it, and now I
just watched it all the time. Is that like there
is a ton going on in the plot. There are
so many threads, so many in so many o it's
as he says in the movie, and it makes it
like even like now, I you know, I've seen it
so many times and I still watching it this week
and we're at like the Jackie tree Horn section. I'm like, oh, yeah,
why is he like have met his house agang? Because
he doesn't ask him anything. Oh yeah, it's just like
a ploy to get him of his house so that
he can like ransack it and look for like the money,
and just like little details like that. Like there's so
many random little threads, and I think it makes it
so fun to pull on those first few times you're
watching it, trying to piece everything together and being like, man,
there's all this talk about the ringer and like there's
these two suitcases, but like neither of them had money
in it, and so it's like, Oh, you don't really
need to worry about any of that, None of it matters.
We just go to some random high school or kid's house,
like he has nothing to do with the rest of
the plot, Like, I think all that stuff is super
fun because there is substance to it, but there's just
red herrings everywhere. And I also think it's fun that
like all the characters pretty much like call everything that's happening,
like super early on, he's like, that's not her toe, dude,
It's like it's it's not her toe, and he just
like calls that immediately. But like we still kind of
as the viewer expect like, oh man, that actually is
your toe. Makes sense, And so I think from that way,
even though the movie is very goofy, it has like
a really really intricate plot, like more so than movies
that you might think of I have, like, Wow, what
a great story that is, but this one is very complicated.
Maybe that doesn't, you know, make it necessarily a great story,
but for me, I think it just makes it very
rewatchable because if it's been a couple of years, I
might forget, like what's going on with this like car
that's tailing him again and it turns out being once again.
It doesn't have like a big fulfilling end point, but
like at least most of the things do get resolved,
and then I think the other thing is, like Taylor,
you mentioned that like everything is very over exaggerated this,
and that is true. All the characters are pretty over
the top and like kind of caricatures of like real
life people. But I think that the dialogue is like
just whatever they wrote on that fucking script was gold, because, like,
especially those bowling sequences when it's the three of the
three main like buddies, like the way their conversations go,
and they'll talk over each other, they'll interrupt each other,
they'll start saying something and they get sidetrack, and like
in most movies they would come back to that point,
but in this no, they just kind of forget about
it and like move on to something else. Then there's
all the goofy little things in there too. But then
also in the midst of these like really intricate even
though they're mundane conversations, they're just like also like bowllying
going on, so there's actually things occurring. Like I love
in one of those scenes where they're talking and Walter
telling Donnie to like shut the help, but you can
just like watch his eyes and his mouth is like opening,
his tongues popping out as he's just like watching someone
who throw like a strike essentially and he's just like
really gluting. You can't see that it's not on screen,
but there's just like all these little details in these moments,
and it's one of those things that I always kind
of assume, like, oh, that must be just like improv
the way they kind of pull off these scenes. It
just feels too real. But it's like, no, there was
pretty much no improv in most of those scenes, just
because the script was so fucking good and precise down
to like all those little interruptions and moments and stuff
like that. And so I think from a even though
even though it's a comedy and we don't often look
at those as like the top brass in terms of
movie quality stuff, I do think this movie is like
extremely exceptionally made. And then also it's just fucking funny
as hell. And it has Yeah, as you guys have mentioned,
like some of my favorite performances for all of the
characters in here. The music in the in this movie
is great, the vibe is great. I love the use
of like a narrator in this which makes it feel
a little more mythical, and it's like a Western like
Cowboy narrative.
Speaker 5: Ghost Rider.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's there's just there's so many layers to
it and things that I pick up. There's there's a
little detail like this time I watch it that I
never caught before, which is like at one point the
dude is going to pick up Walter and he like
picks him up from his work and it's like, sob
check security. I never noticed that that he like owns
the security store and that's like what he does for
a job. I don't think he ever mentions it. It's
like just just so many little details in there too,
the little things that I like never really caught before.
So it's always satisfying on a rewatch. And yeah, I
feel like, if anything, the Jackie Treehorn section is like
where the movie slows do on a little bit pacing wise,
but otherwise I feel like it is just clean the
whole way through, and maybe like the end of the
movie is like not quite as funny because it's trying
to wrap up a lot of the threads and whatnot.
But for me, it's there's never a point that's like Okay,
now I gotta get through this section for the next
fifteen minutes, Like it just it's just fucking clean. It's
a clean, clean movie. So yeah, I think I've just
grown to love it more and more every every time
I watch it, and at some point in the last
few years it became my number one all time favorite movie,
even though I didn't have like that young nostalgia for it.
But I've just seen it so many times now and
there's so much to appreciate in it. And yeah, I
also love just like the hyper focus on like a
really mundane sport of bowling, you know, and just like
seeing like those opening shots when it's just like the
most irregular ass dudes you've ever seen in your life,
just you know, throwing stones with Bob Dylan music. I
was like, fuck, yeah, this is like the perfect vibe.
So yeah, I love this movie quite a lot.
Speaker 5: We gotta go bowling, get some GV bowling the league.
Speaker 3: Fuck it, dude, let's go.
Speaker 1: Get those bump run a bowler. You're la dislike bowling.
I don't dislike bowling. I just don't think I'm that
good at it.
Speaker 5: So they got the rail, you put the ball on,
it rolls down.
Speaker 4: Not doing that shit. That's for five pay guy to
just play for you.
Speaker 2: You know, if you want to do that.
Speaker 3: Someone's got to be the worst in a game, you know.
Speaker 4: So that's true. It could be you, it could be mean,
And I'll happily take rocks.
Speaker 2: I don't even roll them, I just shop put them down.
Strike Mortar.
Speaker 5: They call me the mortar.
Speaker 4: Mortar boy.
Speaker 2: I like what you said, Dylan, with like just the
like there actually is a lot going on and just
the complexity of it all. Like I feel like because
we're following the dude on this adventure and he's just
stoned like permanently. It's like he's just tossed into like
one random situation and it's just like it's like he's
in a haze. So then for the story is kind
of in a haze on like covering detail wise of
what's happening, and then we just jump onto the next
thing and he's like, Okay, let's just let's just keep.
Speaker 3: Wandering through this. He's getting knocked out, multiple attacked and stuff.
Speaker 6: So but I like that the core too for the
most like for sure of this movie, he's just he's
worried about this.
Speaker 5: Woman and like what's happened to her?
Speaker 6: Like it just shows the sincerity to him, Like because
the established is like he's just doing.
Speaker 5: His own thing.
Speaker 6: He doesn't really have a care in the world, yeah, Bunny,
And I feel like, Okay, like for the first bid
here he just has this like he's like, oh, like
this woman and stuff. But obviously that changes when you
know more truth is kind of revealed and stuff. But
still I just think it's it's cool to see him
actually have this, like like this is his mission he's
taken upon. Even when he's trying to do the drop,
he's getting pissed off at uh at his partner here,
who's like, I got my.
Speaker 5: Underwear and just like the cars story, and he fucking throws.
Speaker 6: It out the window and it can see my favorite
scenes of the whole movie, the fucking hand off.
Speaker 5: I disagree, though, Taylor.
Speaker 2: I feel like his mission is just to get the
rug like that, like that.
Speaker 5: That's what's at the at the start.
Speaker 6: At the start, yes, but then after the fact, because
then she goes missing. After it's right, and that's been like,
oh like this woman, like he's renouncing what he said,
like it cause she could have kidnapped herself and put
like anybody's toe whatever like and then oh my god,
I think John Goodman runs a toe.
Speaker 3: That's when he the worry really does ramp up. But
I do think it is. Yeah, it's like he doesn't
care at all because he doesn't think it's real. And
then he starts to care more more than when he
sees the toe. That's when he's like, actually pretty freaked
out at what's going on, which is a good.
Speaker 6: Callback because he's like, you know, blow and then he's like,
you want me to blow and your toe?
Speaker 5: Won't he mind?
Speaker 6: Or whatever?
Speaker 5: Like a good little foreshadow there.
Speaker 1: M I think he cares, like in the start of
the third act. I think he does eventually have some
sort of semblance, and I don't think he's a cold person,
but I don't think for act one, even when he's missing,
like the way he describes it, they oh, yeah, his
ladies miss like it's so nonchalant, and think that's the
way he always is, But it doesn't feel he cares
that much. Feels like he is just in it for
the money, even when they're talking about like oh we
could maybe uh get more money.
Speaker 4: From them and stuff. So that's right. I disagree.
Speaker 1: I think eventually he does, but I don't think it's
that's how his intention was because I also don't think
he thought it was gonna be even because even Walter
was wholting she's not actually missing.
Speaker 4: Oh it's not that.
Speaker 1: So I feel like him not caring is gets doubled
down by kind of reinforced and oh she's fine, like
it's gonna work, and he's like, yeah, it's it's gonna
be okay because he's but then again, he rarely cares
about too much, right in in a good way. The
second time, when they come up and they destroy his
radio and they're beating the shit is things, he's just like,
it's more like a minor inconvenience.
Speaker 4: But uh no, I wish.
Speaker 3: She's listening to tapes of bowling games. Just lit the
pins when.
Speaker 6: They came in, and like I didn't understand what was
going on with the ferret and when they threw the
fucking thing in the bathtub and it's just screaming.
Speaker 5: I was dying laughing.
Speaker 3: It's such a weird That's the one audio mix on
that just sounds so off to me, Like the sound
effects like don't line up, and like his voice doesn't
I don't, Like, I don't know if that's Jeff Bridges
or someone else, Like a like whatever that's called, Like
it's high pitch screen are Yeah, like him screaming in
the tub and like this sound editing is the one
scene where I'm like, this feels off, Like I feel
like this scene needed a bit of a bit of
work or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if that had to do with because
I was trying to look and see if they used
the real otter in there, and it's tough, like I
think they.
Speaker 5: Have to, but yeah, it's definitely a ferret.
Speaker 4: But but he does.
Speaker 1: That's a I love because that happens. And then when
he drops a cigarette, I'm not sure if it happens
a third time. I wasn't looking out for it, but
he has that high pitch screen in both those times.
So I like when he gets to that ultimate state
of danger, the dude.
Speaker 4: Is like freaking out. But before that, that's what I love.
Like I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I could never be because it's just the way my
life is in nature and nurture, Like I wish I
could be as carefree as a dude. Not like when
he gets that car that call on his car and
tells him like, oh it's at the slide pictures. Yeah,
fucking yeah, man, Like he's just like it's such a
like a relief and it's not like a oh, it's
like yeah, like I thought that would work out. Like
he just kind of falls into his lap of course,
and he gets there. It's still like bad news smell.
The car's not good shape, the briefcase is missing. But
I love like at the beginning, I can't remember there's
another point.
Speaker 5: That you got to enter from this side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's something else that happened to I feel
like maybe he's listening to radio or something, same thing.
He's like, yeah, right fucking on, Like it's just uh,
I enjoy that. You know, he's appreciating the little things
that when they do happen.
Speaker 2: So she's having a good time man, and.
Speaker 4: He he's the definition of having a good time. Big adventure,
you know, big adventure.
Speaker 2: I love too because you know he's just a stone
or he smoked his little doobies. It's never like a
full like ready to go like joint. It's just like
the little bud every time. And he's got his little
like road shoulder like tool.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, the little sweezers. Yeah, Yeah, he's definitely
you can tell he doesn't have a lot of disposable income,
like he's got everywhere, every last gram.
Speaker 2: He doesn't do much right, Like I love when when
Mod's modern mode is like talking to us, like what
do you do? It's like bowl drive around.
Speaker 5: He just fucking exists, that's what he does.
Speaker 4: And they did have it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I put it in the trivia
or it was a lost trivia note, but I can
bring him nowhere in the original script, they did have
it that he was the descendant of the person that
created the Rubik's cube, so he just had like a
bunch of inheritance that he.
Speaker 4: Was sitting on. But they're like, ah, we want to
take that out.
Speaker 1: But I guess that I don't know where it is,
but it's implied somewhere in the movie still that like
he does not doesn't have money, but he is like
still financially covered. He hasn't like a lot of they
can just go blow it, but he's not working and
that there's all these other theories, but like what his
jobs were, but that was in the original script that
he was the inherented.
Speaker 3: I mean using a check for like sixty nine cents
to buy milk is like that's your only option right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, I was just gonna mention there's a
lot of like I love the kind of various recream
gags that happened just like at his house, like obviously
the fact that his rug gets stolen twice. We talked
about like the marmot in the tub, but that's kind
of like very similar to the scene at the start
of the movie when he's getting like waterboarded in his toilet, which,
by the way, his toilet water. I don't know if
you guys noticed this, or maybe I've just seen this
movie too many times, but that toilet water is like white.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It is not a clear toiletatter. I don't know if
that's like a California thing.
Speaker 4: Oh it's that type of white. Okay, I see what
you mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's this is dirty. This is dirty water.
I don't know. Maybe maybe there's use different kind of
toilet water in uh in or some lot of bleach.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 3: I also love like just the uh uh when when
he at some point he's like, you know what, fuck it,
these people keep breaking in my house. I need to,
you know, set up this like plank on the ground
and like use that to prop up a chair to
like lock the door. Then he just like does it
the wrong way and they just immediately open the door
and the chair just falls, which is a great bit.
And then I love more when he comes back to
his house after it's been ransacked by a treehorn and
then he just like trips on that plane because he
forgot that he put on the ground. Oh, there's just
so many great little gags that he has in his
in his apartment.
Speaker 6: The when when the rug gets stolen, he's talking to
the cops and he's telling him like, oh, yeah, my
car and then whatnot, Oh yeah, my.
Speaker 5: Rug is missing, and then like the phone rings. That's
like the voicemail like oh I have.
Speaker 6: Your I have your missing rug, and the cops like, oh,
we could don't have to open up that case or whatever.
Speaker 5: Then that's that's solid.
Speaker 6: But when he goes to Modes place and it's just
eerie and ominous and he's standing there and he sees
the rug and then this fucking woman glides in and
just throws the pain, It's like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: I mean this movie has I feel like two of
my favorite just like character introduction scenes in movies. One
is that because that's just like, what's such an insane
way to intruce a characters, like flying like zipline thing
is like completely new and then just starts like talking
about sex immediately and all this stuff like I'm just
asking about like the word vagina and if it makes
them uncomfortable, Like just such a what a what a
great introduction?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that whole sequence with mad like all that
stuff is so funny when he goes back there and
then like that weird guy's in the chair and he's like, oh,
look is this guy's.
Speaker 6: Deal everything he when he's laughing and everything that they say,
he's like, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff, Like it's it's because the big comedic
stuff like those scenes. Even to me, that reaction to
Julian Moore, I feel like you can prepare for that, right,
but just on the page it just says what the
fuck's wrong with this guy? Like that's just like a
basic line, right, that's just a set line and be like, Okay,
this guy's fucking weird.
Speaker 4: We're gonna tell the audience, Yeah he's a weird.
Speaker 1: And even the dude understands that right, But it's the
way that he says just like the pronunciation, the timing
of it. It's all the things he does. It's with
the voice and it's with his facials too. Like one
of my favorite moments is when he is at Jackie's
place and he gets at paper, he gets a pencil
and as he slowly reveals, like the the fence with
the penis just just like.
Speaker 4: Bredges really, like he has like two little things that
runs the couch. But it's just stuff like.
Speaker 1: That, because that's that's the stuff that's not easy, like
look shocked but very surprised but kind of confused, and
it's like, Okay, how do you?
Speaker 4: How do you do that?
Speaker 1: Even later on when he's drugged, like that's another hard
thing to do. So it's that's to me, what gets
the dude over the top. It's not even the big
moments that he does perfectly. It's just continually always feels.
Speaker 4: Like a lived in character.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that moment of him just asking what the
fuck's wrong with that guy like always gets me going,
you know so?
Speaker 3: And another detail that I don't know if this is
intentional or not, but it's kind of something I picked
up once again watching it. This time is when he's
like looking through the records and Maude is telling him, like, oh, yeah,
that guy's name is Uli. He was in like this
German electronic this weird German electronic bend. He picks up
the album called Autobon, and I didn't realize this, like
that was like a whole you know scene back in
the day, and like, but a specific reference here is
I because I saw this concert a couple months ago
with my dad is for this band called kraft Work,
who's like a German electronic band who had an album
called Autobon, which was like really popular and like a
big deal in that specific music scene. And so I
feel like that's like a direct reference to kraft Work
because they kind of like created this genre, which is
like a fun little reference, if that is what that is.
But like I'd never known what that band was until
I randomly went to this concert with my dad. So
cool reference. If that was what they were intending, I
feel like they were because it was kind of the
same sort of vibe that they were given off there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Nihilists were just fantastic and weird.
Every time they appeared. I was gonna mention the fight.
I don't know if we want to go right there.
That's kind of a climactic moment when they.
Speaker 4: Anti semi yeah, they finally did it.
Speaker 2: They killed my car and it's just on fire.
Speaker 5: You got.
Speaker 4: That, you know, like you.
Speaker 1: Could end it in the cause like I don't forget
about the fight is awesome, lose, Like I don't forget
about it. But the way it's pays you get Sam Elliott,
you know, and and off there dudes.
Speaker 4: Oh Bear's good.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing. Like you talked about the callbacks
to the stool went out with the sais.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing. The dude is constantly just stealing
what people say and say.
Speaker 1: That to other people. And I love that. But that's anyways.
Back to Crookan's place, just that feels like the end
the movie. And when they step out, it's just like,
oh there's another good like fifteen minutes of gags about
to happen and stuff.
Speaker 2: So they just have their fucking boom box playing their
German electronic music. It's just it sets the tone and
it's just playing the whole fight. It's a it's a
good backdrop fight.
Speaker 3: So guy has a sword, and then just like immediately
drops it and the fight actually starts.
Speaker 6: Fucking us, that's the one guy. Peter Storm there is
his name. He played Carl Carl Hungus and he.
Speaker 5: It's funny because he pops up every once in a while.
Speaker 6: He my one of my favorite roles that he's in,
he's John Wick when he's talking about Baba Yaga. He's
at the desk and John back too, and he's like
freaking out when John Wick walks in.
Speaker 5: He just appeared in nineteen twenty three watching that.
Speaker 6: But then my one of my favorite roles for him
is with Calddy black Ops.
Speaker 5: He's the replacer and he pops in. He's like, I've
replaced you.
Speaker 6: So you play Call of Duty and he's fucking hilarious.
Everything he's in he just cracks me up. So when
he was this, I couldn't believe it. It just blew
my mind.
Speaker 3: I think he's in Fargo too, and other Coen Brothers.
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, I think he might have been
some other stuff too. He's just like a great character actor.
He's a guy like you want you wanted to play
some version of weirdo, go hire this guy you know,
and he knocks out of the park every time. So
my Favoroit Mooe in that fight is obsoly asked for
the money, and you know, Walter's just gonna say, I'm
not gonna give the money, but the other two are.
And as the fight's proceeding, like Donnie's over there, bad
stuff's happening to him, Walter's biting the guy's ear off,
and then you had the dude over here.
Speaker 4: He's like, here's your fucking four dollars. Man, take it.
Speaker 1: Like the guy wants to fight so bad, but they
literally said, I just give us what you have whatever.
But well there's like, you know, no, it's not gonna happen,
but I just love still the dude. He's like, no, no,
not just yeah, whatever, man, take the fucking money, and yeah,
great again break the line delivery.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's funny that, like the big climactic
death in this movie is really not caused by any
of the plot, Like up to that point, it's almost
just like a random circumstance, which is so much of
this ray. Everything is just kind of like random coincidence,
but not in an annoying way. But I feel I
don't know, I don't know if this is intentional. I'm
sure it is. But Donnie throw the movie, he's just
as as we've said, like he's throwing rocks. He's always
getting strikes. But like I think that last scene he doesn't.
He like one pin is still left up, and then
he goes to sit down and he's like holding his
arm in a way like kind of hinting at like
that he's maybe like about to have a heart attack
or something like that. And then like throw that stressful
situation on him. And that makes sense that would happen.
But interesting little detail. Not something I caught first time around.
But it's like, fucking poor Donnie, man this out of
his element one time?
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's just a shot too.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man now, and they look over
Steva Chevy's his face first in the cement, lifeless, just
like it's just like it's a kind of an embarrassing
way to go out.
Speaker 4: You're just dying in this bowling parking lot. And then
you later on get.
Speaker 1: This terrible funeral because I guess poor Donnie didn't have anybody,
no family, no friends.
Speaker 2: It was a funeral. Okay, it was a very beautiful
scene and he had lived a nice light in the phone.
Speaker 3: John Goodman had a beautiful eulogy.
Speaker 2: It was so well said, so awful eulogy.
Speaker 1: And when he when he again Pati reactions when he
what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: Why are you about Vietnam? When he opens up the
ashes and they just go.
Speaker 1: On jem Bridge and just like yeah, but that's what
I Oh, I'm sorry man. But that's why I love
because even though Walter they took it like his ex wife,
but it all feels like they kind of have nobody.
Speaker 4: And that's where it.
Speaker 1: Works even better that Donnie has no friends, no family,
like the people that care most but Tony, those two
and the other people that went bowling, you know, And
that's where it kind of works because so many times
there's like at least twice where the dude is kind
of like he insinuates or tells well like he wants
nothing to do with him, but then cut to seem like, oh,
thanks for apologizing, man, I appreciate you. Like so it
just seems like they until they die are going to
be in this like relentless psychle of Walter does something
dumb or offensive and the dude breaks it off but
they end up back there because it's like, well, who
else are we going to bowl with the same thing?
Speaker 4: What should we go do? Now? Oh, should just go
fucking bowl? So it's like they just go back to
bowling like that's all they do. Is so uh No.
Speaker 1: Comedically though, scene is fantastic with the with the eulog
so I.
Speaker 2: Love too, just going back to the fight when poor
Donnie's having his heart attack, like that's when Walter's like, Kate,
we got to call that one one. It's like like
there's a whole violent ordeal. This car's on fire, like
nobody's calling the authorities, and it's like, okay, hey, now
Donnie's having a heart attack. Now no, we got to
call an ambulance.
Speaker 5: Like this is serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there is some love there, even if it's
nothing but aggression that we see in this in this movie.
But yeah, like you know, Taylor with all the to
your nickname there, like all the shut the fuck up
Donnie's way that those are like interspliced in those conversations.
I think it's always funny. I love that he's always
like three or four sentences behind on the conversation is.
But then also it seems like he's always you know,
he's bowling when like part important parts of the conversation
are happening, so he's like missing certain details. But I
love that sequence when he's talking about talking about Lennon
and he's like, I'm the Walrus, I'm the wall. Just
keeps throwing that in there and then Walter cuts him off.
Vladimir Ilion, Julia Via is Lenond like this all Like
that sequence is so fucking good. But I mean, every
every one of their Bowling Alleys scenes I could just
watch like infinite times over like that, just as I mentioned,
like the the choreography is so to speak of it,
like just how well it's written and how well I'm
sure they just practice those scenes a bunch of times
to get those timings down. It's just yeah, it's always fantastic.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: We want to go to next?
Speaker 6: Uh, I got one thing I'll shut out, So like
the blue car that tails you mentioned earlier, del the Tales, Uh,
the dude around for a little bit and the one
scene where he finally pops up. I've only seen that
actor in one other thing. He plays a character called
Silvio in Seinfeld and so I I guess I think
he's in a few Uh Coke Cohen is the name
of the guys that did this Cohen Brothers, So I
think I saw he was in a few of their movies.
Speaker 5: But when he finally gets busted and the dude like
he's like, get out of the fucking car, man, get
out of the car, and he.
Speaker 6: Like comes out, he's like I when he said I'm
brother Shameless, and he's like he's like the Irish monk.
Speaker 5: He's like, what the fuck you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Like when the dude like sees him, he's like trying
to start his car, Like really, what.
Speaker 5: Do you say?
Speaker 3: We pool our resources? Yeah, And I love that. That's
like essentially just like a random piece of like backstory
for Bunny. But that's like really the only purpose of
that other than adding just like I guess a little
bit of tension of like, oh, who is this guy
who's tailing the dude? And like really, we see it
in two scenes. And I read up on this detail
today that apparently when uh, the dude and Walter are
like getting coffee, when when Walter's like, I get you
a toe by three o'clock in the afternoon, and that
that scene apparently, like the car drives by in the
background in that shot too, which I've never actually caught,
but apparently that's a fun little detail, so I don't
know the other times that it's hidden in the background,
but yeah, I love that. That's like another one of
those threads that's probably the least consequential thread in the
whole movie, other than like maybe the teenager stealing the
car as well, which is just because it's just completely
disconnected from anything else, but it just adds a little
bit of complexity in there that's like perfect for the
mystery of this whole thing.
Speaker 6: When he's raging in the coffee shop too, he's like,
you know, brothers dying of fucking Vietnam, buried in the ground,
so you could sit you in your family restaurant.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna drink my coffee. He's just such a such
a spaz.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, they cut I don't know if they cut
it the line and they film didn't cut it, but
same thing in the original script they had at that
funeral when the dude got bad, he reveals that Walter
has actually never been to Vietnam, but they took that out, so,
which I kind of like because I like it kind
of insinuating because like he he reads both ways of
a guy that could have gone had this person or
a guy that like he went but he like never
saw any action, like he was like back at base
like shining shoes or something, but like he's hard now.
Speaker 3: But uh uh, Yeah, I think I read that it
was something like because a lot of these characters, including
the dude, are like based off people that they knew
in real life, and the guy that Walter's character is
based off like couldn't like wanted to go to the
war but couldn't because he had like asthma or something
like that, and so that was like a part of
his personality is that, like he really wanted to go
to the war to fight for his country kind of thing,
but he couldn't. So yeah, but I noted. I learned
that detail too, and it's interesting that they decide. I
think it's good that they kept it over to the script.
I agree, because I mean, I guess there technically could
still be that mystery there, but I think it works
better if that is actually his backstory instead of just
like this, Well, it makes it even more pathetic than
he already is, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially to I feel like it doesn't track
with at the end when he wants to fight right
that you'd almost keep that line if he because if
they all back off, you'd be like, well, weren't you
in Vietnam, dude, Then that's when you would reveal, oh, no,
I never was, because he does. You know, he's like,
you're not taking my money. We're gonna fucking fight, like
he's will in the final three of them. That's where
I think it works to to have him still go
there and everything. But uh uh, but when we're talking
about that scene about with the whole bunny and trying
to get her back and everything like that, when you
Taylor saying that he cared about the girl, what I
found interested in that scene. The last thing they have
together is that you know, he's.
Speaker 4: Don't fuck with my lady friend.
Speaker 1: They don't bug my lady friend, which I found very
surprising because he was like mad, but like he's he's
always like questioning her, like he's he's in awe for
in a way where I think just also thinks she's
very weird.
Speaker 4: But then you know they have sex.
Speaker 1: She says she's trying to get pregnant and then she's delays, Oh,
you don't have to worry about it. He's still don't
a little uneasy, but the fact that you just had
to make sure, like hey, you leave her alone. I
liked that and the dude quality because he has a
he's some sort of you know, they have some sort
of kindred spirit thing going on, even though they'd be
completely different people, but it works. And I really like
their bed scene too before they like the joke there
of like them just getting to know each other, him
talk about yeah, you know about the Seattle seven and
all this, like just all the little like lower stuff
because for me, like I think it is true, but
he also reminds me if he fledges Joker, and he
fledgers Joker gives himself like three origins in the dark Knight,
Like the dude sometimes feels like that to me, where
I'm sure like either all of this is true or
like none of this is true, or it's like, uh,
like he has a hazy memory of it. So it's
like I could literally have seen him being around where
the Seattle seven was and he thought he was apartment
but he actually never was.
Speaker 4: So but I like that. I like that it's just not.
It's just you know what.
Speaker 1: He did for recurry, you know, you know, I get
a bowl, you know, and she's expecting this big answer
but uh yeah, no, uh I like that. And then
you the other thing you mentioned it was in inconsequential,
but I it's my favorite line in the movie is
so they get the homework, they find okay, a kids
stole that, they're gonna go there and interrogate him.
Speaker 4: Now, don't forget before this that's from the second time
with the Marmot.
Speaker 1: You know, they break the radio, break everything, dudes find it,
but they many times, hey, we're gonna cut your cock off.
So in him and Walter are interrogating him, which like
the dudes like what we're gonna do when I was like, oh,
trust me, you kind of think the dude's gonna stay back, right,
he's not gonna do that much. But no, he's he's
up there, where's my fucking money, where's my car? Like
all this stuff right and right.
Speaker 4: In the Minneral Walter's like, Hey, where's my fucking mindy,
what's going on? We're gonna cut.
Speaker 1: Your dick off, Larry like again, because he's using the
threat that someone gave him, but it is Bridges delivery
that That's always been my favorite line in this movie
because it's it's out of nowhere and we know the dude,
that's not gonna happen. And I kind of like that
the kid knows that too, Like the kids looking at
these guys like you're not gonna do any of that's
what you're saying about, Like, yeah, he's a dumb kid,
but it just feels like they both come off these
massive losers. But yeah, uh, Jeff Bridge's line delivery, it's
just so quick, we're gonna cut your tick off, Larry,
and it's just like immaculate.
Speaker 4: It's so good. So that's why I'm happy the kids
stole there.
Speaker 1: And then you get the parking lot scene and again
his car gets messed up and Walter doesn't apologize to
like the day later they stop, you get some food and.
Speaker 4: You know, same thing. Donnie is really no idea what's
going on. But yeah, my favorite line of the movie
is that one right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it it makes sense because at that point,
like because we don't see the briefcase again, but it's
assumed that the kid did get it open. Some I
think I had a lock on it, but he must
have gone it open somehow and knows that there's nothing
in there at that point. But I also love like
just the completely a random character backstory there that this
kid's father was like a writer on this show, and
like it's a show that like Walter was like a
big fan of and he's like one hundred and sixty
three episodes like the broach of the series. Like whatever
he says there, suit he's like, your show, especially the
early seasons are so inspirational that there's like a little
backheaded calm to that, like the writing got like worse
over time or something, but yeah, yeah, just ran a
piece and like what a crazy machine that's.
Speaker 1: And that's where like this movie never gets to like
parody's status. I feel like it gets like right on
the line, like it's like that that joke when they
because that's what happened, where it'll be like fifteen twenty
minutes of just stone or calmedy, very well written, very clever,
but then something like that happens even John Goodman like
spinning like bind the guy's ear off and spinning up
in the air that's near.
Speaker 4: Those like naked gun like Austin Powers for things.
Speaker 1: So when they walk like, hey, Larry, so the dang
and then like the dude walks up like but there's
no comment about it. It's just accepted. It's not like
it's just in the world. And then they move on
to the rest of the scene like it is just
like talks to him, doesn't he Well, you guys what
I mean, Like, there's not like a there's not like
a they call it out of being weirder. I've never
seen that befo, where'res just accepted like all these guys
in that tank and like in a parody where you
just accept the craziness stuff that happens, right, like this
is an outer world thing, so it's not parody.
Speaker 4: But that's right.
Speaker 1: They're like the tippy toes are right on it. But
I love it because yeah, and then you just continue
on like that's a joke. You don't even have to
put in there, him in the tank, you don't have
to put them all. But they just had this idea
and it's just wacky and wild.
Speaker 4: But I love it.
Speaker 3: Agreed. Uh, Yeah, I want to highlight a couple other
because Travis you mentioned, like his just constantly reusing other
characters lines I feel like almost every character has some
line that's reused with another one, which is like a
fun little thing to track on like subsequent rewatches. But
obviously the first one is like when he's at the
grocery store and there's one of the bushes is on TV,
like giving a speech. This aggression will not stand, and
then he whips that one out, like in the meeting
with the big Lebowski, or even like the big Lebowski
is the one who like is talking about like this
or that abides I forget what the exact line is,
and then obviously that's like his iconic line. Later the
dude bides something incent saying something about the parlance of
our time, and then he uses that when he's like
in the limo later on too. So yeah, that's a
really fun thread that, like every rewatch, I feel like
I catch, like, oh that line, Yeah I noticed that
now some other characters said that earlier on. But yeah,
he's just he's you know, he's much like Donnie. He's
out of his element. He doesn't he kind of has
to just pull from things other people are saying. I
think it's a fun character detail.
Speaker 1: M That's why how muchhould I believe him with all
these stories everything like that, So what else is he
picked up and stuff?
Speaker 4: But no, it's a it's a good.
Speaker 1: Uh revolving kind of door thing. And obviously they cap
it off with Sam Elliott, who is such a it's
like a I enjoy the choice. It's just like such
a fun random choice.
Speaker 4: He just sounds so namored with the dude. But that's
where it kind of.
Speaker 1: Works too, because they feel like whether that is like
a spiritual character or literally just another patron who is
just he goes his bowl and Elley goes his bar,
and you just constantly hear stories about the dude and
his crew and like what they're getting.
Speaker 4: Up to and same thing. It's almost the same thing
I look at.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I wish I could have that kind
of care free attitude, but he can. That's where samlie
like he he just talks about him like he's a
fucking like an angel, like like the dude is gone
and the Sam Elliot is one of his disciples. He's
just so always happen to see him a few times,
And no, I enjoy that.
Speaker 3: So it's it's a funny, Like there's two things funny
about that one. I mean, I absolutely love the intro
when he's you know, kind of describing the story, doing
that intro narrator thing, but then he just like loses
track of what he's saying and trails off and then
just kind of like that to me is such a fun,
unique thing. I can't think of like another time where
like a narrator has had dialogue like that, right, that
also feels like a human that just you know, we've
all done that on the podcast, Like, uh shit, I
forget the point I was trying to make. Its getting
so lost in it or trying to use like fancy
words and sound fun, and I don't know, there's so
many just fun little things in there. And he's like
he's not really a hero, because what's a hero? And
then he starts talking randomly about that for a minute,
He's like, I've never seen the Queen and her darn dundy.
He's like, does all these points in that in that
narration sequence is so fun? Then the fact that he
becomes a character, because obviously a lot of movies do
that where like the narrator is a character in it.
But I feel like I can't think of another one
where it's just like a nothing character who has really
nothing to do with the plot other than being the narrator,
and he just pops up at one or two points
to like talk with the protagonist at some point. Almost
feels like a godlike character. But I think, as you mentioned, Travis,
with like the Coen Brothers doing other Westerns, I think
it's funny that this gives the movie a bit of
a Western tinge. And obviously, like the opening sequence with
like the tumbleweed just going through it just like doesn't
really fit thematically with anything else that's going on here,
as from the Western's eye scene. But I think it's
a fun I think it's a fun detail makes it
just feel like mythical in a way.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because Taylor, there's some stuff you quoted.
That's why I think, and I just watched recently, I
think you will enjoy Once Upon Time, Hollywood, because I
think it has similar vibes.
Speaker 4: To this movie.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the only one I could think of
off the top of my head. Is Kurt Russell in
that movie. He narrates it, but then he's just the
stunt coordinator for that one scene, and then he's never
seen again, and so it's one of this thing where
he starts as a narrator, so you think, okay, car
Russell's narrator, and then he comes in first scene, so like, okay,
he's gonna be make character, and then that goes away
for a while and then at.
Speaker 4: The end he comes back.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's it's not he doesn't have
the same preference because he hates Brad Pitt where this
is the verse of Samue Aliott. You know, I would
say loves the dude or has.
Speaker 4: A great respect for him. But that's the only thing
I can think.
Speaker 1: It's like so many yeah exactly, So, yeah, that's only
one good thing that kind of goes there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you haven't seen that. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: We're talking about that recently again of why you might
have to watch it, But you should definitely give that
a go because I feel like that's uh up to
some tempos here, lots of random stuff, lots lots.
Speaker 4: Of people being bribed to suck Cox in that one too.
Speaker 6: You know, So I was not expecting Sam Elliott to
actually pop in as a character. I thought, okay, cool,
they got him doing the narration that's that's fitting. That's fun.
It's kind of like, I can't think of another example,
but those are the other movies and whatnot. You have
usually like a familiar voice doing a narration at the start,
and then it kind of you don't ever see him,
but it's just they're they're they're lending their voice to
that narrative. And Samleiot has such a unique voice.
Speaker 5: Which you know, eighteen eighties, don't try it, try it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think him popping in and like you
guys already said him just kind of worshiping the dude
and just you know, he's just so casual and just
so chill.
Speaker 5: Uh. Yeah, it fits in a weird way. He's like, yeah,
I like your I like what you you're wearing. He's like, yeah,
I like your whole cowboy thing. You got going on.
Speaker 1: Another character that I wish was in it more, but
I get why they're not. And it was smaller, you know,
I was joking with it at the beginning, but man,
Philip seymer Hoffman is just so damn good man. And
that's where everyone kind of, I won't say forgets, but
I feel like there is two generations of fans and
it was like after the Dimssion possible and a little
bit brownn did Capodi and he did doubt like he's
doing all these oscaring on me. He became a serious
actor and he was always in that type of stuff.
But people I said, don't forget or they might have known.
The nineties his career was just filled with this. I
made a little of the early two thousand just with
side characters. That man, he just delivered so well.
Speaker 4: But even to the point where I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Whether he does it out of a minor respect, whether
he does it to be like kind of a smart
like businessman that he starts referring to him as the
dude and like giving him some sort of respect that way.
So and again I don't know, it could go either way,
because other characters have that affinity, you know, Julia McMahon
or not, Julian and Moore, Sam Elliott, like they have
that infinity with the dude. So maybe his charm worked
on Hoffman. But Hoffman is just great. And that's where
I just I don't know where I get fit the plot.
I wish it was just like two to three more
scenes of him, because he's just such an enjoyable, breath
of fresh air character. And he's not like anyone else
because I feel like most characters, i'd say, other than
like the the foreign you know, bounty hunters, in a
sense like they're all pretty low energy.
Speaker 4: You know, Jesus is there, but he's he's in and
out right.
Speaker 1: He's I don't even think screen times even five minutes,
so he's high energy.
Speaker 4: But most the other.
Speaker 1: Characters are pretty subdued, normal people. It's how they act,
which is weird. But Phillip Symore Hoffman is like at
least at a dying because he just seems like he's
very he's very stressed out and always has a lot
going on. But yeah, shout hoff Man. I still wish
that guy was around giving us this type of stuff
because he's just one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2: You know, when oh, go ahead, I was gonna say,
when Bunny gets back to the place and he's just
like picking up her clothes and he's stressed. Obviously the
plan didn't work. And then the dude gets there, he's like, please,
please don't upset him. He's he's extremely upset right now,
Like he's just so stressed. It's like, what you're saying, Trevis,
he's just so high strung and this is just octane
level nine, like like it is too much for him
to handle. But he's still just trying to be composed
as much he is, like he's very much professional, and
uh yeah, I just I love his role and I
love when he just starts calling him the dude as well,
like after jeff Bridges telling her to understand.
Speaker 6: When he's in the car with uh like get know
the Bowski, Jeffrey.
Speaker 5: And like that whole scene too, when he gets out.
Speaker 6: Of the limo from mode and then he just gets
fucking tackled and thrown into another limo right away, and
it's just.
Speaker 3: And he barely still was a drop of his drink.
Speaker 6: He's a seamless, seamless But yeah, then they're just like,
where's my money? And then yeah, Hoffman is just like,
where's our money, dude. He's just repeating the same things
that the little bawsk he's just saying. It's just that
cracked me up. I always liked him in Along Came PAULI.
That's one of my uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like one of the flat comedic roles. Yeah,
so he's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love his I love just the exaggerated way
he like opens doors and stuff. Like he's just so
theatrical with the way he does everything. And obviously they're
in like an extremely expensive mansion as well, but he
really owns that space. He really like choose the scenery,
like really makes himself feel like a video game NPC
in that space or than like a human in a way.
But it's uh yeah, it's a it's a great role
for him.
Speaker 2: Man. There's a lot of like vehicle scenes in this movie,
and I mean we talked about the limo one I mentioned.
My favorite scene of the movie is probably the failed
hand off with the.
Speaker 5: Walter and I.
Speaker 2: I just love this moment though, because like, of course
the dude brings Walter on this mission, which is just
like the biggest wild card that you could ever have
on like kay, like so simple feel, you know, it's
so simple what we have to do.
Speaker 5: Let's just do it.
Speaker 2: We get the money, everybody wins, and he's like, Okay,
we're gonna do this. It's it's you know, I got
my dirty laundry in there. It's a ringer, like he's
just he pulls out the oozy when he jumps out
of the vehicle and it just drops and just going
off like it's just so chaotic. The dude crashes the
vehicle and even just phone call, you know, who's that?
Speaker 4: Who's that dude? Who's right away? Yeah, and he calls
back like is that them.
Speaker 1: Or like whatever variation he says there and just even
then like the same thing. It's a simple plan. But
the second they're in the car and the scene they're
talking about it, Walter's already giving like different scenarios they
could do, like trying cheese, these people.
Speaker 4: Get more money, and it's just like he's such a
such a wild card.
Speaker 1: But you know he's gonna be there for you know,
no matter what, except for he's on the Jewish hall
day and that took a lot of yeah, which I
understood the dude's perspective, like you're not even Jewish, your
ex wife was Jewish.
Speaker 4: You converted.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, can't convert, like can't unconvert or whatever
he says.
Speaker 2: You know, he like fells in the details of what's
going on. He's like, I understand that, but like you said,
there's live or death.
Speaker 5: He's like so distraught.
Speaker 4: I already took your call I did that for you.
Speaker 3: So the phone, I don't use, the stove, I don't drive,
and I sure ship don't roll.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: The other vehicles that you don't want to shout out
is I think it's, as my name mentions, it's when
he gets arrested in Malibu, he's just I don't want
your jerk off face. You know, he's just just the
cops going at him, whips that fucking coffee right at
his face. And then and then he gets the cab
and uh, he's just very upset. He's injured. And the
guy's just listening to the Eagles. He's like, can you
turn this song off?
Speaker 5: He's like, fuck you this. I love this song. It's
like I just hate the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Guy.
Speaker 2: It just pulls him out of the vehicle, like it's
just oh man, like all.
Speaker 3: A lot of water in this town, dude.
Speaker 6: All those scenes, like because there's so many triggering factors
for Walter, and you'd think that when Jesus pops in
that would be such a triggering factor. When Jesus like
does this bowle at and then he's like talking shit
and this is his first intro. He's talking ship to
Walter and the dude and all that, and then he leaves.
Speaker 5: The whole time, like, Walter does not freak out. He
just is very calm.
Speaker 6: But I feel like the only reason he's calm is
because he knows the other guy is just so fucked up,
because when he leaves, he looks at the dude, he's
like eight year old.
Speaker 1: Is that the piece in the trivia where every character
he comes like that has some sort of scene with
or whatever. Walter will get up in his face and yell, well,
that's the only character he does not confront is Jesus
because whatever reason, he is.
Speaker 4: Some sort of wild card.
Speaker 1: But yeah, to to that scene, that crickle mention always
spoke to me because I was somebody that I grew
up with everyone loving the Eagles.
Speaker 4: I won't say I'm the dude where I fucking hate
the Eagles.
Speaker 1: But man, very uh very overrated band in my opinion,
just saying that. So yeah, it's like Juliana Moore, No,
that's they're wrong on that side of history.
Speaker 2: There, So another another car scene to shout out. I
think it's the last of my my triage. I think
it's after he does the doctor visit and then it's
like a quick cut to the great gift that Dylan
bestowed upon as many, many upon times when he's in
the car and he's just had he's just vibing, he's
having such a good time. He like has his douby.
He starts noticing I think, I think that guy's following him.
I can't remember all the details, but he goes to
flick it out of the window, windows rolled up, lands
on his lap and he's just like swerves so erradically
he could have easily killed a pedestrian. Thank god he
didn't swerves out. And then he just like crashes, so
uh just yeah with damage ready to into the and
it's not just like a regular single track can It's
like a full dumpster that he hits, yeah, flips over.
It's just so extreme. But yeah, I just love that
because like the scene starts with him just listening to music,
and that's how it ends. It is just, yeah, a
big car crash, but yeah it.
Speaker 7: Gets comedians tapes, you get the commn hyped. Would you
say credence is what it is?
Speaker 3: Is credence tapes?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, shouts such credence you don't know c c R
Come on, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know Credence, I know Creed.
Speaker 3: That's what he's He's like, what they're like, what's in
the cars? I got my tape deck, got my FREEDOMCE tapes.
But yeah out my back.
Speaker 5: Door, we didn't take your tape deck.
Speaker 3: Yeah I let's let's talk about uh, let's talk about
Jesus here because me this is like I mentioned mode
and that's like such a great character introduction, but this
might be my single favorite character introduction in any movie ever.
Just like this slow kind of Spanish guitar starting out.
You start with seeing his hands with like he's got
these fucking dark souls rings on. He's got like one
painted fingernail one hend has like the arm brace on it,
kind of cooling his hand on the little fan there
on the bowling machine kind of lifts it up to
his face, licking the ball in like just the creepiest
way possible. And then the way that like the song
kicks up as he like throws it with like just
the Spanish version of Hotel California. Fucking incredible stuff, like
just really sets the scene for like, who is this
freaking he's wearing like this purple nick jumpsuit and he's
just like his his fucking hips. The way his hips
are moving are absolutely insane, which just like goes directly
into like them talking about who this guy is and
him sharing while they're sharing the story of him being
a peterass and all this stuff is so fucking great.
And then when you finally get his dialogue in there
and you expect his name to be Jeseus, but it's
like no, and this guy's name is actually Jesus. And
then just any scene after that when him and Liam
are like, you know, buffing the ball, like all that
stuff is so good. So yeah, I uh, I love
that character. He's obviously total creep, but he can roll, man,
he can roll.
Speaker 2: I love you like the duo of you got Liam,
who's just like the most normal looking bowler dude, and Jesus,
Like this is the dynamic duo. Yeah, like you think
maybe I don't know too wild card character. It's like no,
just Jesus and his and his counterpart Liam, who's always
there with him. You know, he's always when Jesus going
to confront him, he's he's right there, he's holding him back.
When uh, it's like a or something like what do
they call you? They passed on the event. I can't
remember what the detail was for why they weren't rolling
that day, like why it gets pushed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's remember it's like the all.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah that's a day of rest.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, great intro. Great character.
Speaker 1: That's a character that when I watched the first time,
thought was going to be in it a lot more
because I'd always seen not even memes at that point
back then, but just it was I think always would
come up and pop or side characters or whatnot. But uh, yeah, great,
great performance. I'm sure in Jesus Roles they explained that
the exposing himself to an eight year old was like
an accident or something.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to drill belfunction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: But and even just that kind of like, oh, I
had to go down the neighborhood and you see him
before years ago, and he's very solemn, very like you know,
this is a terrible thing, and now he's just like
wild out there. So I have no idea, but yeah, great,
great little side performance there.
Speaker 3: M hmm. Let's see. I love the dudes drinks of choice.
He has like the MGD beers, and then he obviously
has like the white Russian, which is like almost a paralyzer,
which are also that's like my go to cheap beer
and like my one of my go to uh like
cocktails that I make. But it's nasty that he just
like keeps the milk like on his counter. Like it's
not that's crazy most of the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not good. That's just just the thought
of that not not well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mostly have just some quick quick
fire one one. I love that one of the tree
Jackie Truehorn's gangster guys is the guy the players like
Rita's like shitty husband, Dexter. I feel like that's always
like the two roles that I've known this guy from,
which are like could be the same guy for all
I know, seem like it could be the same.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine Dexter the bowler, him, Masouka and Batista
bump up to the dude and everything like that.
Speaker 4: Dex is looking at Jesus.
Speaker 3: Sides of the country, but like I could still see.
Speaker 1: It, And fuck, I'd give anything to have dogs interact
with these characters.
Speaker 4: You think the dude gets annoyed. Just think about dogs.
Speaker 3: Being able to crack this case, this case that is
completely illogical and like all these people just have no
relations to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he cracked Dexter first, right, like no one
cracked Xter, and he figured to make sense.
Speaker 3: This is just like random events occurring to some extent, Right,
it's kind of hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I trust in Dokes Stokes. You know, he's badass.
Speaker 1: So and I I like that canon that that's Paul
And yeah that the bowling Miami team, but I guess
they're not Miami, but you know, may maybe maybe maybe
there's like an American tournament that happened somewhere down the line,
ye Nationals.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One actor that I think is so good that he
doesn't even seem like an actor to me, just seems
like a guy. Is the landlord. Uh just you know
you only seemed like two scenes, but just like the
sweetest guy. He's pretty lax on the rent. Then he
just has like this really odd performance and I love
that Walter like shows up a bit late and he
has like this whole plan to go to the teenager's
house and he's like, you know, when we're done, like
the uh, what have you here? Like he can't even
comprehend like what they're watching. That's just not something he's
ever sat down to watch before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all I got is quick fire notes too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the I'm gonna attribute this.
Is it like when Walter calls people dunce. I call
people that, and I just when I saw nine it's
near the Andie's like, you're being a fucking dunce. And
I remember the first time I called Emily that, she
just gave me a look like what are you talking about?
And I did not directly call that, and I don't know, yeah, no, no,
And now she.
Speaker 5: Calls me that too, But it's just like she drop
a dish and you maybe it's.
Speaker 1: Probably around the time when you start trying to be
a bit more like political correct, like everyone in there,
you know, elementary teen schools, like you're saying stuff for
You're like, oh, now that I know the meaning of this,
you don't say that. But Dunce is always like, well,
it's Dunce caps the dumb kid in the corner. So
it's like, you know, it's about I can't remember. I
think he might call Donnie a dunce, to be honest,
I'm pretty sure, but when I saw that, Na, I'm like,
it's kinda I had a Taylor wrong term, and I'm like, oh,
this is where I could have picked it up around
then and started dropping like that would have been the
zeitgeist of my mind.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we talked about the Yeah, no, I think
we hit them all.
Speaker 1: And then the only other one why I love is
near the beginning of the film is uh the dudes
recounted the story to DONI and Walter and like, again,
just mine or it's just a rug whatever, but of
course wal there's a man that's such a loss, like
that rug.
Speaker 4: Really held the room together, Like dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really held together, but like, oh yeah,
it's just a great delivery there.
Speaker 3: And everyone else always says it too, like even Donnie
will just like that rug really tied the room together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just that's that's I mean about being similar to parent
because like, why don't these people care about this ugly
fucking rug in his house that like is not well
put together. But to them it's like, oh, the dude
should be upset because everyone talks about how good this
fucking rug is.
Speaker 4: So yeah it's true.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, once again I mentioned this earlier, but like,
just I love bowling just being like the primary setting
for a lot of the stuff here, because it just
is one of those sports I don't really think about.
But yeah, I'm sure like people are just as in
the sports as any other sport, you know, and it's
kind of just funny and it's kind of a good setting.
So I like that. I like that the resolution for
the money that we find out that and it's never
technically confirmed. We just kind of assumed this to be true,
that the big Lebowski took the money out of the
fun for the kids and then just you know, said
that they lost it in the ringer but actually just
kind of use it for his own game. But we
never find out if like that money got returned to
that fund or mod or got any of it back.
We just just kind of leave it unthreatened. I think
that's totally okay. I mentioned the Man in Me with
Bob Dylan. I think that's used twice in the movie,
which I think is a perfect song for this time
and place to use the parlance of our time. And
then the one sequence we haven't talked about yet is
one of the times when he gets knocked out and
then we get like the the I think it's called
like the gutter Ball Gutterballs sequence like that with the
just walked In song, when he's like walking out in
like his carpenter outfit and then he like.
Speaker 4: This whole dance his dance.
Speaker 3: Law it's like outfit, which is like one of the
most iconic outfits, and then like you know, throwing him
like down the alleyway and him just like having this
really goofy look on his face as he looks up
their skirts and all this. But also I just think
a lot of the cinematography around that stuff is great,
and like another I forget if it's I think it's
earlier in the movie. Maybe actually it is that sequence
because he gets knocked out and he's imagining all these things.
That one shot that's like from the perspective of like
inside a bowling ball, like rolling down the alley, it's
like a camera looking out that hole kind of going down.
So there's a lot of just great shots like that
throughout this throughout this movie, and all the weird bowling
niconography I think is just great for it. So yeah,
that that sequence is super fun and that song is
super weird and cool. I think it's Kenny Loggins does
that song, right, Yeah, it's a weird one.
Speaker 2: I feel like the choreography too, of just all the
moving pieces in that sequence, like I didn't really focus
on until this viewing where I'm like, man, there's so
much going on here of like all the dancers like
doing the exact same like moves and everything, like it's
really well made for just a trippy mind sequence. And
then all like the outfits you already mentioned Julianne Moore's,
but like the dancers in the background, they just have
like pin like pins essentially like Fandois almost yeah, yeah,
exactly sticking to the bowling team of course.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I think that's only notes for this bad boy.
Speaker 2: Just having the I m d b up. I didn't realize,
but Nihilist number two was played by Flee, which is
the basis from Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker 4: Really I did not know stuff. Remember he was in
fucking Obi Wan. He's the guy that's Canna Princess Leiah.
Speaker 2: Remember I did not remember that he reviewed that? Yeah,
yeah I did.
Speaker 1: He was in something else recently too, where he's like Flee,
like you just just he's just okay, cool Flee.
Speaker 3: Sure, he's the guy for his time and.
Speaker 4: Place, yeah, any other notes for hit us with some trivia.
Speaker 3: I'm noteless.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see wellby I'm sure you guys picked on this,
but if in case he didn't, well, being a member
of the bowling team, the dude has never seen bowling,
which is great because I don't know what his.
Speaker 3: Skill is, mostly Donnie, who's always striking it except that
last one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Before filming a scene, jeff Bridges would frequently ask
the Coen Brothers did he just did the dirt? Did
the dude just burn one on the way over? If
they said he had, he would rub his knuckles into
his eyes before a take to make him a pure bloodshot.
So I like that little just just keylot note, like, hey,
what's going on here?
Speaker 4: Right? Let's see here.
Speaker 1: A lot of the dudes close in the movie where
Jeffrey's own clothes, including the jelly sandals, which he still
owns and uses to this day, So they're kind of like, yeah, yeah, well,
I don't know whether the exact ones or if they're
just he's keeping that same you know, brand oring up.
Speaker 4: But they didn't specify here.
Speaker 3: So one time for Halloween, I was the dude and
finding sandals like that was impossible because they're a special
once in a lifetime peace.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude says man one hundred and forty seven times.
Speaker 4: This movie nearly one and a half minute if you
put it all together. So the just man, let's see here.
Speaker 1: Okay, in twenty three this is just like a fun
just just kind of different fact. In an interview, Joel
whole And told the story about having recently been to
a movie theater in twenty thirteen San Francisco, where they
saw a booth displaying Lebowski posters. Ethan asked a teenage
girl what was going on, and then she proceeded to
tell him but the theater's nightly screenings of the movie.
She said that people come in dressed in costumes and
you should come in and you'll like it.
Speaker 4: It's fun. She had no idea that two men had
made the movie, so they're just in some random.
Speaker 1: Play San Francisco saw and like, yeah, we do this
and you should come watch.
Speaker 4: And that's fun. I hope it.
Speaker 5: If they went, I bet they didn't.
Speaker 1: Because like I don't put in the triviaet, but I
read that they are like, we don't even really understand
the finny for that much like they kind of like,
we don't even think.
Speaker 4: This is like one of our top tier movies, but
people love this thing. So it's funny that.
Speaker 1: So I bet they're like, ah no, but that's you
never know what it's gonna hit, right. So John Tatura
originally thought he was going to have a bigger role
in the film. When he read the script, he realized
apart was quite small. However, the Coen Brothers let him
come up with a lot of his own ideas of
the character, like shining the ball and the scene where
he dances.
Speaker 4: Backwards, which was inspired by Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: He says, So, which was funny because, like Dylan said,
a law of the script, there's only one thing the
gym that there was improv everything else was when even
down to the man's and dudes, those were all in
those those weren't just a characters doing that.
Speaker 4: So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: The rest of the script so tight, but with Jesus'
character they kind of let them let them loose a
little bit there. So the details Maud that he was
a roady from Metallica. There's speed a sound to refer
as the band as a bunch of assholes. Metallica was
flattered by to be referred to a Coen Brothers movie.
The guitarist Kurt Hammett once noted in an interview, they
tried to make it and incorporate into one of their tours,
but they.
Speaker 4: Just couldn't find a way.
Speaker 1: But I wish they they should have been able to
find way, like they play it before a song or something.
Speaker 3: Reference. Though I feel like it's not like a big
moment in the movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's it's like it's I think it's cool,
Like they're calling your band down and calling you a
bunch of assholes.
Speaker 4: Like I think there's something fun you could have done there.
But I get it.
Speaker 1: Fuck the Eagles, you know, yeah, which is a good
like call, Like it's great that they play Hotel Call
California earlier and then you have the dude, you know
saying funck the Eatles right, like.
Speaker 3: A different Hotel California.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When they started writing the script, that Cohens wrote only
forty pages and then let's sit for a while before finishing.
This is a normal writing process for them because they
often counter promin a certain stage and then they passed
it into their project and then we come back to
the first script. This way, they've had accumulated multiple several
future movies, which I felt better reading.
Speaker 4: Because I many times we'll do that.
Speaker 1: I got a script right now, I'm living the last scene,
last five pages, but I just don't want to write it.
I just don't feel like I've had the juice yet.
I'm waiting for that juice to come. So I read that,
I'm like, Okay, I like that.
Speaker 3: These coms are like, you know, how much forty pages
of a script for these guys do you reckon?
Speaker 4: What do you mean? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3: Because you said like they would write forty pages of
a script and then leave it, Like, how much of
a movie.
Speaker 4: Is that forty minutes?
Speaker 1: Usually, unless you're writing just one minute, that's what the
rule is, unless you're writing movies that are big action movies,
because that's tough, like the set piece when you writing
the action, that could go longer. But rule thumb is
kind of a minute per page, you know, obviously not
counting a title page, you know, title car that type
of stuff. But they're written stuff, so and and because
they're mostly dialogue, that would that would make sense here.
So Julian Morris sent an interview. Great actress said that
she was pregnant during the filming, but didn't tell anyone.
Speaker 4: Because she really wanted to do the harness scene herself.
So there you go.
Speaker 3: I wonder how they used that plates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that technique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're, of course everyone's interested going on
to be I just care a cherry selected because there
was like over like three fifty trivia, Like there's tons
of stuff.
Speaker 4: The back half here, the ending here is just about
some of the casting. The screenplay was written for John Goodman.
Speaker 1: Steve Bushimmy and with and Sam Elliott in mind, So
there you go. Julian Moore was sent the script while
she was working on Dress Part two. She worked only
two weeks on the film early and late during production
that went from January to April nineteen ninety seven. Well,
Sam Elliott was only on set for two days, so
it's kind of funny that like Julian Moore comes here
in January and then all the way back until April
and then she's back. So the books ended were Samuel
It's you know, comes on there for a couple of
even two days, but he's there. Jeff Bridges claims the
dude was pretty much who he had been in the
nineteen seventies, but unlike the character. Like the character of Walter,
the coms did not have anyone in particular mind for
the dude while they're writing the script. Once Bridge's name
came up, the casting seemed unavoidable. The actor often takes
a lot of time before committing to project. They said,
he danced around a lot, primarily because they're way oh,
and they went on to go do different movies because
they wanted him to say yes, And I guess.
Speaker 4: He just really wouldn't commit for a while.
Speaker 1: And then even then, Jeff Bridges initially had reservations about
the dude because he thought would be a bad example
for his daughters. He accept the role after his middle
daughter said, we know it is acting, so there you go.
But yeah, almost this great casting. It's kind of funny
that they write the script they have no idea. They
have all these other characters, the kast them all this guy,
they have no idea.
Speaker 4: It comes up like, oh, we gotta get him.
Speaker 1: And he's like, eh, I don't really know if I
want to do this because it's bad. It just like
he just wasn't sure, so it's kind of funny. That's
like all time casting was humming hung So you know
whoever his middle daughter is big shout out to that
Bridge's daughter because if she didn't say that, maybe he
doesn't do it. I don't know, but uh yeah, So
that's the tria for the Big Lebowski. Tayfield, Well you're.
Speaker 5: Freaeding.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I looking at this movie. I don't know
what bad things there are coming out of this. It's
just it's a good time and there's there's so much
humor in here, and it's you guys had highlighted it
before when the three of them are just having their
dialogue like you mentioned Dylan, and like the Bowling Alley
or just other scenes too, and it's just it's so
natural and flowing and cohesive that it's just it sucks
you in and it doesn't feel like acting. It feels
like it's just a group of guys hanging out and
they just through some movie cameras and just start filming
these people just doing their own thing, and I like that.
It just it feels seamless and I can really appreciate that.
I'm gonna give it a ten out of ten because,
like I said, I had a lot of fun with this.
It was it was really really good and uh, yeah,
it's just it's it hit that note that I don't
think a lot of.
Speaker 5: Modern day movies really have.
Speaker 6: It's got it's got character, and it's got a fun
story and I love the rat. But it's not it's
not just so random and ill explained where you just
do you want a little more, sure, you want more,
but there's nothing wrong with that, and.
Speaker 5: It's not leaving you.
Speaker 6: It's not leaving you with just this like ah, like
I don't understand or I'm having a hard time trying
to like connect these dots or whatever. It just it
introduces you to this dynamic and this problem and it
just goes sideways as they get to this this conclusion. Hey,
it's just it's an adventure and it's it's it's awesome,
it's it's chill and it's a good time.
Speaker 2: Kill your pats are Yeah, I mean this is uh,
this is a flawless feature film. I think I think
I'm gonna give it ten pins out of ten. It
is just phenomenal. Yeah, and like one, I'm excited to
rewatch again because I definitely feel that the more I
rewatch it the more I enjoy it. And I mean
they only already brought up like many just details that
I didn't notice, and I've seen in this like five
or six times, so I'm yeah excited to look out
for those and look out for that car in the backdrops.
You know, they're on the roads a lot in this film.
But no, it's it's just great and like really timeless.
Like what's the date on It's like nineteen ninety eight,
nineteen ninety seven and something like that, and like, you know,
technology of their time, but like it's it's like nothing
about it really feels dated beyond like I just feel
like it's a period piece in the nineties, you know,
like like that's what it is. It doesn't feel like,
oh yeah, it's it's tough to watch now with some
of the lines, Like it doesn't seem like like the
jokes that they make are like really offensive or anything.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: It's just it's really fitting and just great performances across
the board. Julian More, you know, stand out. She's definitely
making me think she might be a better actress than I.
I won't give you a list, Yeah, give me a list.
She got an Oscar right for this film, That's what
it would have been.
Speaker 1: No, this was not I had to check nominated for
zero oscars, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Golm brothers were a big time Oscar directors, like fire
Gunn nominated obviously they won for No Country.
Speaker 4: Pretty sure burn after reading got them.
Speaker 1: I think a simple Man got them something like they
were slinging it for a while and now, like I
do movies, just Ethan insteracting, I think Joel's right now.
I don't permanently retire, but I think he's kind of
out right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was watching like an interview with them,
and it's funny they were talking about Fargo and like
winning for Fargo, and I don't know which one is which,
but one of them was like, oh, yeah, you know,
it was a solid movie, but like there was just
no competition that year. They're like, nothing came out that year.
Hollywood took a break that year for some reason. So
it was kind of like a were just kind of
an easy one that one. Like, so he was very
like humble even in that that one. But yeh, I
wouldn't really expect this to be an Oscar movie, I guess,
But I didn't even know what came out in the
year against it, Like, I don't know what I would
It's hard to compare because, as you mentioned, Travis, like
it's a great performance by Jeff Bridges, but obviously it
doesn't have like those qualities that you would normally expect
are on like a rubric for a you know, Oscar's
judge to you know, check off when they're watching their movies.
Speaker 4: Right, it should be though that it's just one of those.
Speaker 3: Movies where it's just not how it works, right.
Speaker 1: I think it is one of those movies though that
in retrospect, when you look back on it, you go, oh, man,
like we like that was a mistake, this didn't happen.
There's tons of those movies that even current dayly you're like, okay,
when this is ten years from now, you're gonna look
at these movies be like, you know what, this crop
was not the greatest and like yeah, even then, like hey,
it's well, yeah, oh god, this is fucking Shakespeare in Love.
Speaker 4: This is that all over again.
Speaker 1: It came out so the best picture was Saving Prett
Ryan thin Let Red Line A Life is Beautiful, Life
is beautiful, Sorry Elizabeth and Shakespeare in Love.
Speaker 4: I could see someone making the case for save Brent Ryan.
Speaker 1: But I put uh big Lebouski over the rest of us,
and who won Best Actor was Robert Biginian.
Speaker 4: Life is beautiful. Yeah no, I uh.
Speaker 1: I disagree, but you know what, I don't disagree with
these men up top. We'll give you ten because yeah
it's a ten and ten easy, like it's a fantastic
I hope at some point are GV Golden Geeks at
nineteen ninety eight does get voted in and we can
rectify certain inequities that happened that year.
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1: Can't say enough good things about these movies. This is
a movie that because I haven't been doing it in
a while, because I've been editing GV day stuff, and
I've been writing a little bit less because the day
has been long, and you know, death stranding don Con
is like, man, I can't get I can't wait to
get back into like writing, editing, filming. Like this is
one of these movies where it's like it doesn't inspiring
in the way, like no one was like look at
it in her Stell and look at this thing. It's
like it's a different sense where it's like, Okay, I
want to be having that vibe, creating those moments, and.
Speaker 3: I want to have one hundred and seventy mans in
your script, you know.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yeah, so ten or ten?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one thing I failed to mention that,
like my opening thoughts is like, weirdly, even though I
love this movie so much, I've barely dipped my toes
in the Coen Brothers filmography at this point, Like, which
is so weird. Because I love this movie so much,
I should obviously like the actors crossover and obviously the
writer director combo. So that's still an ex anything that
I have so many movies of theirs that I haven't
seen yet. I think I've only seen Hudsucker Proxy, you know,
watching that for the ninety four prep and then Burn
after reading, which I talked about on newscast like about
a year ago or something, and then you know Driveway Dolls,
which is by whichever one is still directing. So I
haven't even seen No Country, which is insane. So I
still have a ton of their big movies that I
should go check out, which is an exciting thing. But
I mean, obviously I'm dropping a ten for this so
it gets a perfect forty, which is you know, you
love to see it. This is a really fun time.
I'm glad we finally did this episode and hopefully, you know,
like some big Lebowski quotes and gifts can make it
into our you know, into our sideboard. Here all these
all these gifts, when quotes were always dropping podcasts, I
feel like there's a lot of good ones in here
that could join the pack.
Speaker 5: I got one right here, we can.
Speaker 1: I agree very loud, you know, But all there you go, Lasia,
and we've done it.
Speaker 4: We've done Devil's Pig.
Speaker 1: So let us know Discord, YouTube, Patreon, Facebook, wherever that's on.
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on this one, if you like it, love it,
anything we missed any fron trivia, and yeah, the next
episode will be back.
Speaker 1: Is the final pick of the GB ten Yere Kirklands
David Fincher's the game, so until then it won't be
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