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Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentleman, and welcome back to the ten year

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Retrospecial Fuck Retrospective, Special Editions Retro Special for I'm the

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dick Cutter Trash Now I'm going.

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Speaker 2: By I'm the jerk Off Kirkland Patzer.

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Speaker 3: I'm the nihilist dil Mus, I am this funny to

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the field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ladies, Jim, if you haven't guessed by the names

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or the title of this up so we are reviewing

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the Big Lebowski, might be wondering, why are they making

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a second one?

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Speaker 4: No, we're not getting ready for Jesus Roles. Yeah, have

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you ever seen it?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask I have not seen Jesus Roles.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna dip

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my toes. I've heard it's not good, but I'm I'm

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gonna dip the toes and see. But that's for another time.

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There's no big sequel, there's no remake, there's nothing like that.

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There's no series coming out, thank god. But what we're

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doing in honor of ten years, all of us, for

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years we've done patroon Pholtes, or time with Patreon, or

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time with different content, all these different reasons, right, but

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I think it's we still pick them, but sil very

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few and far between, if any. We're like, we're just

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doing this one because we want to write that's you know,

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luckily you patrons do that for us. But this go

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around for the tenure, I thought we should do that,

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and we've done that for wrong Turn, dead End, for Taylor,

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we did that for Shame, for myself, and tonight today

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whenever you're listening to this, we are doing this for

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The Big Lebowski, directed by the Cohens Brothers.

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Speaker 4: Coming on nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: This is dyl Mussel's pick, but we're gonna leave him

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last so he can tell us.

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Speaker 4: You know we have you can't go back.

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Speaker 1: Dylan talked a little bit, just a little bit about

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The Big Lebowski. We have done our top ten fair

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films of all time. That is on patrons to go

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get that. But I'm gonna throw to a man who

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has said that won't say what he said about he

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has seen it for the first time ever, and that's

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mister Taylor Field. So Taylor tells your thoughts on you

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know it's your first time now, so I spoiled that,

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But like, had you ever been close to it?

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Speaker 4: What did you know of this movie? Did your parents watch?

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Did they not let you watch it? Et cetera? What

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did you know about The Big Lebowski before today?

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Speaker 1: And other than the you know, the roof gift that

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Dylan has dropped probably a good million times since.

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Speaker 4: Geekers and started.

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Speaker 1: So it's that, and I'd say running out places when

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he's doing the reading of the well, No, he has.

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Speaker 3: Like the look of shame and he's like shaking the glass. Yeah,

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that's something stupid, and I just like put that one

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out there. It's great.

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Speaker 4: That's too.

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Speaker 1: I actually think your aggression was three, but then four

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you you have dropped that one where he's reading the

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homework and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I thought of a really specific one I need

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now is when we're supposed to podcast on a Saturday

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but it gets kicked to a Wednesday. Just whip up

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the Jesus scene and he's like, fuck you in the

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ass Saturday, in the ass Wednesday instead. I feel like

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I need a gift of that for that very specific,

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you know time where we have to read the.

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Speaker 5: Starts speaking of Jesus.

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Speaker 6: I just realized he's just creeping in between me and

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Kirkle's crap.

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Speaker 5: I got.

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Speaker 6: So I had not heard or knew about this movie

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until Dylan started popping off with it.

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Speaker 5: Uh, parents never saw that I know of.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's one that I was not familiar with,

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and I never got around and just sitting down and

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giving up the old college shry until you know, the

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retro came along here, and I wish I did see

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it sooner rather than later, because yeah, this movie was

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just a wild ride. It was a chill ride. It

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just felt like, Okay, things just spiral out of control

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with just a simple misunderstanding and it just goes off

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on this adventure. And yeah, there's lots of stuff that

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was that was just it was good. I don't know

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if I was just in the headspace that was really

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just stoked for it or what was going on, because

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like Madison was out of the house yesterday, teen was

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asleep and so it was like seven thirty last night

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and I'm making Honeyguard like chicking the kitchen. I got

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it playing on like on my laptop and there, So.

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Speaker 4: Did you eat after eight? No?

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Speaker 5: No, No I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I didn't eat. I nibbled on it, but I made

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it for tonight's dinner. So I made it an advance,

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so there's just many times.

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Speaker 1: You're eating very late, and if you eat very late,

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that can cause heart disease.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just, oh, thank you, but no, I was.

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and rice. So I just wanted to like whip up

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this recipe. So yesterday, yeah, I'm in there and I'm

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just I'm like frighting up one head and in my

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my iron or cast iron walk that I got for

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Father's Day, I'm just flipping this chicken around.

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Speaker 5: And I'm watching the movie.

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Speaker 6: I was just in the I was having a fucking

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time my life down in my Jones Soda two Joe

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and SODA's in right now. It was just it was

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a good time and the movie was just Yeah. I

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was just I was just riding. I was riding the

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high with this movie. It was great the moment that

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it started and just right up to the end and

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just everything that was going on. Everything with Steve Buscemi

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asking these questions, and it just there was a weird,

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like dude, where's my car kind of vibe to this

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with okay, uh.

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Speaker 6: With I don't know what else, but it's just yeah,

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it was just it was a fun adventure, and I

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that that was Julianne Moore right, that was like mode Okay, yeah,

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that confessedly caught me off guard.

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Speaker 5: I did not expect her to be in this at all,

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and just like just the dynamics.

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Speaker 6: There and and whatnot and just everything, and uh, what

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actress's name, but she was from American Pie and uh yeah,

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you're missus Lebowski. She's like, oh, suck your different thousand

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dollars and he's like, yeah, I used to pay a hundred.

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Speaker 5: I know it is. I can't remember his name right now,

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Speaker 6: But no, I know, I know, I just I couldn't

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more things, you know, this random but yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: This is great. I'm definitely gonna be watched it again.

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because that was that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: Mister in this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lots all over.

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Speaker 2: I have a little bit of history of this film.

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but I don't think i've seen it to completion more

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than like three times. So some things in the end

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just started it and then never finished it, so it's

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and my uncle just loved this movie. Hit a poster

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poster they had, and he just loved this movie, and

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we watched it, and I had no idea what the

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fuck was going on. I like did not comprehend anything.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a plot, but it's definitely like you're

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just chilling in this world, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a great Stoner flick, you know. And as

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Speaker 5: Though, I really really.

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Speaker 2: Love this movie. I think it's it's just so such

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a masterpiece. I think it's my I think it's by

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plays it so falllessly. But like pretty much everyone does

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such a great job with with their roles. There's some

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many familiar faces in this in this flick that I

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like this character, I just I just see him as

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the Dude and he just has this this qua about

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him and he's thrown into so many different situations in

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this one movie and he just handles it the exact

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because it's kind of hard to just encompass like one

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singler I don't know phrase on this flick because there's

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just so much to it. And uh, I think it's

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definitely one that gets better with rewatches, at least in

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my my experience at least, and it helps when you

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finish the movie at least. But there's a lot of

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great stuff in here. And Steep a Shammy, Yeah, good shadow, Taylor.

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I think he's fantastic. He's very minor character, but he's

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just so great. And yeah, he's just rolling rocks. He's

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just he's feeling it, you know, like I'm just pumped

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for him. I just want to be rooting for.

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Speaker 5: No context. Too late to the conversation, Donnie.

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Speaker 3: Me and my dad went bowling recently, and you just

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sink about any quotes I was whipping out throwing rocks tonight, Richie.

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Speaker 5: Just you pull your gun out in the in the

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over the line. That's before they had the tech.

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Speaker 2: Now if you, you know, you put your toe over

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the line, it'll just buzzy and then it doesn't even count.

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Speaker 5: Your score drops on you. It's fucking rude.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what pulling alleys you're going to. But

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you know, Kirklan he said something where he said it's

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it's very hard just to describe this movie in one

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phrase or whatnot. I got it for you, ooh perfection,

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you know. Michael Fassbender gift dropped that. Yeah, this movie.

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So this is a movie I saw in two thousand

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it oh six, because that's when because I always say I,

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oh six saw departed, and I went through the IMDb

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list and I even checked, like, it's still on the

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IMDb two fifty, like the top ray movies of all

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times still there, So I guess I didn't goround get

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age because nothing like Oh Drugs. But I just feel like, Okay,

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just didn't really play from it. I funny enough day

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a little bit and then Kirk will know what I'm

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putting down here. Two thousand and seven, world changes again.

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No count Rollman comes out and I go, man, what

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who are these people? But then I don't check it

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out because then the next year, Burn After Reading comes out,

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No count for Old Men, and that's where I got

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some stuff in the trivia. But I respect two type

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of directors. Where a Tarantino, the second Tarantino movies on

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you know it's him right, he does similar beats, the

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just some of the comedy, the shots, the music choices,

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the vibe. You just know where the Cohens you could

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other a few stilistic things like these are not the

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same directors at all. And I to me, some people,

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you know, love when you can just tell directors stuff.

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and say, yeah, look at it, like look at me

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just flexing, you know, I can make to me, one

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of the you could argue this is the greatest comedy

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of all time, and then to me that's like, for me.

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completely no counch. Roman's very scary movie. And after reading

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a return to form. It's like what the Cohens did before.

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CIA plot, and it's all a bunch of misunderstandings. And honestly,

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it kind of feels like a weaker version of this movie.

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Speaker 1: Burn after reading some Brad Pitt is phenomenal movies. Okay,

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I'm gonna go start doing the backlog. Did this did

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far go to the rest of the stuff, But this

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was and I think I'm with Kirkland where I still

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enjoyed it a lot when I saw it the first time.

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get almost every single joke where maybe we have been

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through some life experience in middle school, it's like, all right,

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I can kind of appreciate this stuff.

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Speaker 4: But no, this movie everybody is fine on all cylinders.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with two forms as far as I

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think it is my favorite John Goodman role because Matt like.

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I'm smiling.

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kind of be the character you kind of love or hate,

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but it turns in that love to hate situation.

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Speaker 4: And same thing with Bridges.

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Speaker 1: It is like a Heath Fledger, Like, I know that's

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Jeff Bridges, and I know he can just do a

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Super Bowl commercial of it. But in this movie specifically,

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I don't see an actor. I don't see the lines

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anything like that. I see the dude, and it is

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just it is one that I would put maybe in

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top ten, because you don't do like a.

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Speaker 4: Big dramatic yell or screams or you know, anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But well, I guess you do, but not in the

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sense of what you think of like a oh this

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you know, this desperate sad performance like Walking Phoenix and

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Joker right, or it's like, oh, look, how deep is getting.

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Speaker 4: I'd put this in that same.

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Speaker 1: Category because it's just as hard to be this type

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of character and feel natural. Because yeah, we've seen you know,

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Spacoli with Sean Penny did years ago, and god, I'm

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forgetting the.

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Speaker 4: Movie Fast on a Ridge on High.

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Speaker 1: You listen James Frankel, there's a bunch of that might say, oh,

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there's tons of other good Stoners, but we've Almos also

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seen tons of soner performances that are very just I

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don't know, just paint by numbers. They do their whole things,

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but to me, this is the bar for that. And yeah,

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the movie snappy, it's very clever. You have moments which

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we'll get into, like in the back half with the

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porno stuff, where it's like it comes out of nowhere

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but it still completely fits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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just like I watched again today to be fresh, but

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watch us all time throughout the years when it kind

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of pops up.

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Speaker 4: But I could just watch this again.

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Speaker 1: Like there's no it reminds me we did a couple

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of months ago when we were talking about the vibes.

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It reminds me of how I enjoy Goodfellas. But that's

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like in a crime sense, right, same thing. I would

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love just to keep going back to that bawlling alley,

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but at the same time, don't want to follow up.

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You know, I'm happy, happy where it lays. So no

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fantastic movies, so I'm happy to be talking about this finally.

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Speaker 4: So dell muss your journey. Why are we talking about

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big Lebowski tonight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's thrilling that you guys all love

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this movie as well. That's that's great. Yeah, I think

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I've mentioned the origin story of this one a bit

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for me actually on our Office Space retrospective. Weirdly enough,

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because those movies and that movie were always kind of

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tied for me in the sense that like early Reddit

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days when I was like in middle school, high school, whatever,

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just I feel like it was constantly references to those

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two movies. Remember what thread, what subreddit you're in, It

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was just people making jokes, you know, quoting these two movies.

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retrospective here our thoughts on that movie, another kind of

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funny one to do a retrospective on. And then at

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some point, you know, in that time period, checked out

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this movie for the first time. I think I think

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Alex showed it to me, Alex who we used to

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work at Target with as well, such as to the

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Target connection. And yeah, I mean I just loved it

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immediately because of how funny was, like all the great

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quotes in it and all that. But I think the

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reason why it was it was so strong for me,

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like those first few times I watched it, and then

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I just got so hooked on it, and now I

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just watched it all the time. Is that like there

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is a ton going on in the plot. There are

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so many threads, so many in so many o it's

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as he says in the movie, and it makes it

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like even like now, I you know, I've seen it

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so many times and I still watching it this week

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and we're at like the Jackie tree Horn section. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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why is he like have met his house agang? Because

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he doesn't ask him anything. Oh yeah, it's just like

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a ploy to get him of his house so that

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he can like ransack it and look for like the money,

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and just like little details like that. Like there's so

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many random little threads, and I think it makes it

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so fun to pull on those first few times you're

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watching it, trying to piece everything together and being like, man,

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there's all this talk about the ringer and like there's

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these two suitcases, but like neither of them had money

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in it, and so it's like, Oh, you don't really

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need to worry about any of that, None of it matters.

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like he has nothing to do with the rest of

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the plot, Like, I think all that stuff is super

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fun because there is substance to it, but there's just

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red herrings everywhere. And I also think it's fun that

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like all the characters pretty much like call everything that's happening,

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like super early on, he's like, that's not her toe, dude,

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like calls that immediately. But like we still kind of

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as the viewer expect like, oh man, that actually is

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your toe. Makes sense, And so I think from that way,

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even though the movie is very goofy, it has like

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a really really intricate plot, like more so than movies

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that you might think of I have, like, Wow, what

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a great story that is, but this one is very complicated.

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Maybe that doesn't, you know, make it necessarily a great story,

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but for me, I think it just makes it very

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rewatchable because if it's been a couple of years, I

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might forget, like what's going on with this like car

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that's tailing him again and it turns out being once again.

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It doesn't have like a big fulfilling end point, but

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like at least most of the things do get resolved,

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and then I think the other thing is, like Taylor,

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you mentioned that like everything is very over exaggerated this,

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and that is true. All the characters are pretty over

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the top and like kind of caricatures of like real

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life people. But I think that the dialogue is like

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just whatever they wrote on that fucking script was gold, because, like,

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especially those bowling sequences when it's the three of the

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three main like buddies, like the way their conversations go,

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and they'll talk over each other, they'll interrupt each other,

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they'll start saying something and they get sidetrack, and like

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in most movies they would come back to that point,

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but in this no, they just kind of forget about

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it and like move on to something else. Then there's

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all the goofy little things in there too. But then

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also in the midst of these like really intricate even

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though they're mundane conversations, they're just like also like bowllying

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going on, so there's actually things occurring. Like I love

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in one of those scenes where they're talking and Walter

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telling Donnie to like shut the help, but you can

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just like watch his eyes and his mouth is like opening,

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his tongues popping out as he's just like watching someone

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who throw like a strike essentially and he's just like

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really gluting. You can't see that it's not on screen,

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but there's just like all these little details in these moments,

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and it's one of those things that I always kind

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of assume, like, oh, that must be just like improv

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the way they kind of pull off these scenes. It

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just feels too real. But it's like, no, there was

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pretty much no improv in most of those scenes, just

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because the script was so fucking good and precise down

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to like all those little interruptions and moments and stuff

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like that. And so I think from a even though

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even though it's a comedy and we don't often look

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at those as like the top brass in terms of

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movie quality stuff, I do think this movie is like

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extremely exceptionally made. And then also it's just fucking funny

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as hell. And it has Yeah, as you guys have mentioned,

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like some of my favorite performances for all of the

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characters in here. The music in the in this movie

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is great, the vibe is great. I love the use

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of like a narrator in this which makes it feel

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a little more mythical, and it's like a Western like

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Cowboy narrative.

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Speaker 5: Ghost Rider.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's there's just there's so many layers to

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it and things that I pick up. There's there's a

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little detail like this time I watch it that I

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never caught before, which is like at one point the

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dude is going to pick up Walter and he like

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picks him up from his work and it's like, sob

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check security. I never noticed that that he like owns

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the security store and that's like what he does for

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a job. I don't think he ever mentions it. It's

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like just just so many little details in there too,

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the little things that I like never really caught before.

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So it's always satisfying on a rewatch. And yeah, I

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feel like, if anything, the Jackie Treehorn section is like

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where the movie slows do on a little bit pacing wise,

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but otherwise I feel like it is just clean the

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whole way through, and maybe like the end of the

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movie is like not quite as funny because it's trying

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to wrap up a lot of the threads and whatnot.

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But for me, it's there's never a point that's like Okay,

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now I gotta get through this section for the next

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fifteen minutes, Like it just it's just fucking clean. It's

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a clean, clean movie. So yeah, I think I've just

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grown to love it more and more every every time

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I watch it, and at some point in the last

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few years it became my number one all time favorite movie,

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even though I didn't have like that young nostalgia for it.

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there's so much to appreciate in it. And yeah, I

473
00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:34,680
also love just like the hyper focus on like a

474
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,720
really mundane sport of bowling, you know, and just like

475
00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:40,480
seeing like those opening shots when it's just like the

476
00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:42,720
most irregular ass dudes you've ever seen in your life,

477
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,440
just you know, throwing stones with Bob Dylan music. I

478
00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:48,599
was like, fuck, yeah, this is like the perfect vibe.

479
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,920
So yeah, I love this movie quite a lot.

480
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,079
Speaker 5: We gotta go bowling, get some GV bowling the league.

481
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 3: Fuck it, dude, let's go.

482
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,599
Speaker 1: Get those bump run a bowler. You're la dislike bowling.

483
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,880
I don't dislike bowling. I just don't think I'm that

484
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,440
good at it.

485
00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 5: So they got the rail, you put the ball on,

486
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,279
it rolls down.

487
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: Not doing that shit. That's for five pay guy to

488
00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:15,000
just play for you.

489
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: You know, if you want to do that.

490
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,759
Speaker 3: Someone's got to be the worst in a game, you know.

491
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: So that's true. It could be you, it could be mean,

492
00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:23,920
And I'll happily take rocks.

493
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,559
Speaker 2: I don't even roll them, I just shop put them down.

494
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,160
Strike Mortar.

495
00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 5: They call me the mortar.

496
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: Mortar boy.

497
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: I like what you said, Dylan, with like just the

498
00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:37,119
like there actually is a lot going on and just

499
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,680
the complexity of it all. Like I feel like because

500
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,160
we're following the dude on this adventure and he's just

501
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,799
stoned like permanently. It's like he's just tossed into like

502
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,880
one random situation and it's just like it's like he's

503
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480
in a haze. So then for the story is kind

504
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,880
of in a haze on like covering detail wise of

505
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,559
what's happening, and then we just jump onto the next

506
00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,839
thing and he's like, Okay, let's just let's just keep.

507
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: Wandering through this. He's getting knocked out, multiple attacked and stuff.

508
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 6: So but I like that the core too for the

509
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,000
most like for sure of this movie, he's just he's

510
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:14,160
worried about this.

511
00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 5: Woman and like what's happened to her?

512
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 6: Like it just shows the sincerity to him, Like because

513
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:20,480
the established is like he's just doing.

514
00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:20,799
Speaker 5: His own thing.

515
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 6: He doesn't really have a care in the world, yeah, Bunny,

516
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,720
And I feel like, Okay, like for the first bid

517
00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:28,240
here he just has this like he's like, oh, like

518
00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:30,240
this woman and stuff. But obviously that changes when you

519
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480
know more truth is kind of revealed and stuff. But

520
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,400
still I just think it's it's cool to see him

521
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,680
actually have this, like like this is his mission he's

522
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,359
taken upon. Even when he's trying to do the drop,

523
00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,880
he's getting pissed off at uh at his partner here,

524
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,119
who's like, I got my.

525
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 5: Underwear and just like the cars story, and he fucking throws.

526
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 6: It out the window and it can see my favorite

527
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,680
scenes of the whole movie, the fucking hand off.

528
00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 5: I disagree, though, Taylor.

529
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: I feel like his mission is just to get the

530
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,680
rug like that, like that.

531
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 5: That's what's at the at the start.

532
00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 6: At the start, yes, but then after the fact, because

533
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,200
then she goes missing. After it's right, and that's been like,

534
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,640
oh like this woman, like he's renouncing what he said,

535
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,759
like it cause she could have kidnapped herself and put

536
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,279
like anybody's toe whatever like and then oh my god,

537
00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:12,799
I think John Goodman runs a toe.

538
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:16,559
Speaker 3: That's when he the worry really does ramp up. But

539
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,200
I do think it is. Yeah, it's like he doesn't

540
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,839
care at all because he doesn't think it's real. And

541
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:21,160
then he starts to care more more than when he

542
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000
sees the toe. That's when he's like, actually pretty freaked

543
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,319
out at what's going on, which is a good.

544
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: Callback because he's like, you know, blow and then he's like,

545
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,599
you want me to blow and your toe?

546
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 5: Won't he mind?

547
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 6: Or whatever?

548
00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 5: Like a good little foreshadow there.

549
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,079
Speaker 1: M I think he cares, like in the start of

550
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,119
the third act. I think he does eventually have some

551
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,640
sort of semblance, and I don't think he's a cold person,

552
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,759
but I don't think for act one, even when he's missing,

553
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:51,119
like the way he describes it, they oh, yeah, his

554
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,880
ladies miss like it's so nonchalant, and think that's the

555
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,039
way he always is, But it doesn't feel he cares

556
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:57,960
that much. Feels like he is just in it for

557
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,160
the money, even when they're talking about like oh we

558
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,440
could maybe uh get more money.

559
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,079
Speaker 4: From them and stuff. So that's right. I disagree.

560
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,559
Speaker 1: I think eventually he does, but I don't think it's

561
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:08,599
that's how his intention was because I also don't think

562
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,880
he thought it was gonna be even because even Walter

563
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,400
was wholting she's not actually missing.

564
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: Oh it's not that.

565
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: So I feel like him not caring is gets doubled

566
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,720
down by kind of reinforced and oh she's fine, like

567
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,160
it's gonna work, and he's like, yeah, it's it's gonna

568
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,480
be okay because he's but then again, he rarely cares

569
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,359
about too much, right in in a good way. The

570
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
second time, when they come up and they destroy his

571
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,880
radio and they're beating the shit is things, he's just like,

572
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,599
it's more like a minor inconvenience.

573
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,839
Speaker 4: But uh no, I wish.

574
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,039
Speaker 3: She's listening to tapes of bowling games. Just lit the

575
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,480
pins when.

576
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,599
Speaker 6: They came in, and like I didn't understand what was

577
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,839
going on with the ferret and when they threw the

578
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359
fucking thing in the bathtub and it's just screaming.

579
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,759
Speaker 5: I was dying laughing.

580
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: It's such a weird That's the one audio mix on

581
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,759
that just sounds so off to me, Like the sound

582
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,440
effects like don't line up, and like his voice doesn't

583
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,200
I don't, Like, I don't know if that's Jeff Bridges

584
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,559
or someone else, Like a like whatever that's called, Like

585
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,640
it's high pitch screen are Yeah, like him screaming in

586
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,079
the tub and like this sound editing is the one

587
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,160
scene where I'm like, this feels off, Like I feel

588
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,359
like this scene needed a bit of a bit of

589
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,119
work or something.

590
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if that had to do with because

591
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,279
I was trying to look and see if they used

592
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,640
the real otter in there, and it's tough, like I

593
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,200
think they.

594
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: Have to, but yeah, it's definitely a ferret.

595
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: But but he does.

596
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: That's a I love because that happens. And then when

597
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,240
he drops a cigarette, I'm not sure if it happens

598
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,920
a third time. I wasn't looking out for it, but

599
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720
he has that high pitch screen in both those times.

600
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:45,599
So I like when he gets to that ultimate state

601
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,160
of danger, the dude.

602
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,039
Speaker 4: Is like freaking out. But before that, that's what I love.

603
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,440
Like I wish I could.

604
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: I could never be because it's just the way my

605
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920
life is in nature and nurture, Like I wish I

606
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,519
could be as carefree as a dude. Not like when

607
00:25:57,519 --> 00:25:59,799
he gets that car that call on his car and

608
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,039
tells him like, oh it's at the slide pictures. Yeah,

609
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,920
fucking yeah, man, Like he's just like it's such a

610
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,240
like a relief and it's not like a oh, it's

611
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,079
like yeah, like I thought that would work out. Like

612
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,400
he just kind of falls into his lap of course,

613
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,240
and he gets there. It's still like bad news smell.

614
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,279
The car's not good shape, the briefcase is missing. But

615
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,720
I love like at the beginning, I can't remember there's

616
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,720
another point.

617
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 5: That you got to enter from this side.

618
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's something else that happened to I feel

619
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,599
like maybe he's listening to radio or something, same thing.

620
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,440
He's like, yeah, right fucking on, Like it's just uh,

621
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,240
I enjoy that. You know, he's appreciating the little things

622
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,279
that when they do happen.

623
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 2: So she's having a good time man, and.

624
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: He he's the definition of having a good time. Big adventure,

625
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,200
you know, big adventure.

626
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: I love too because you know he's just a stone

627
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,519
or he smoked his little doobies. It's never like a

628
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,359
full like ready to go like joint. It's just like

629
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,519
the little bud every time. And he's got his little

630
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,279
like road shoulder like tool.

631
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, the little sweezers. Yeah, Yeah, he's definitely

632
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,720
you can tell he doesn't have a lot of disposable income,

633
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,680
like he's got everywhere, every last gram.

634
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,319
Speaker 2: He doesn't do much right, Like I love when when

635
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,920
Mod's modern mode is like talking to us, like what

636
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,359
do you do? It's like bowl drive around.

637
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 5: He just fucking exists, that's what he does.

638
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: And they did have it.

639
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:21,039
Speaker 1: I don't know if I put it in the trivia

640
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,640
or it was a lost trivia note, but I can

641
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,599
bring him nowhere in the original script, they did have

642
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,839
it that he was the descendant of the person that

643
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,440
created the Rubik's cube, so he just had like a

644
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,839
bunch of inheritance that he.

645
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:33,759
Speaker 4: Was sitting on. But they're like, ah, we want to

646
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:34,240
take that out.

647
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: But I guess that I don't know where it is,

648
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,640
but it's implied somewhere in the movie still that like

649
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,279
he does not doesn't have money, but he is like

650
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,640
still financially covered. He hasn't like a lot of they

651
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
can just go blow it, but he's not working and

652
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,039
that there's all these other theories, but like what his

653
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,960
jobs were, but that was in the original script that

654
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,079
he was the inherented.

655
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean using a check for like sixty nine cents

656
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:57,839
to buy milk is like that's your only option right now.

657
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great.

658
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, I was just gonna mention there's a

659
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,680
lot of like I love the kind of various recream

660
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
gags that happened just like at his house, like obviously

661
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,279
the fact that his rug gets stolen twice. We talked

662
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,400
about like the marmot in the tub, but that's kind

663
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,440
of like very similar to the scene at the start

664
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000
of the movie when he's getting like waterboarded in his toilet, which,

665
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,799
by the way, his toilet water. I don't know if

666
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,279
you guys noticed this, or maybe I've just seen this

667
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:24,279
movie too many times, but that toilet water is like white.

668
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,079
Speaker 2: It is.

669
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: It is not a clear toiletatter. I don't know if

670
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,240
that's like a California thing.

671
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: Oh it's that type of white. Okay, I see what

672
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,720
you mean.

673
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's this is dirty. This is dirty water.

674
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,079
I don't know. Maybe maybe there's use different kind of

675
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,319
toilet water in uh in or some lot of bleach.

676
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 4: Then.

677
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: I also love like just the uh uh when when

678
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,839
he at some point he's like, you know what, fuck it,

679
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
these people keep breaking in my house. I need to,

680
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,559
you know, set up this like plank on the ground

681
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,680
and like use that to prop up a chair to

682
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:54,839
like lock the door. Then he just like does it

683
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,960
the wrong way and they just immediately open the door

684
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,359
and the chair just falls, which is a great bit.

685
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,160
And then I love more when he comes back to

686
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160
his house after it's been ransacked by a treehorn and

687
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920
then he just like trips on that plane because he

688
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,839
forgot that he put on the ground. Oh, there's just

689
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440
so many great little gags that he has in his

690
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:12,279
in his apartment.

691
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,079
Speaker 6: The when when the rug gets stolen, he's talking to

692
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,519
the cops and he's telling him like, oh, yeah, my

693
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,200
car and then whatnot, Oh yeah, my.

694
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,759
Speaker 5: Rug is missing, and then like the phone rings. That's

695
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,319
like the voicemail like oh I have.

696
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 6: Your I have your missing rug, and the cops like, oh,

697
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,480
we could don't have to open up that case or whatever.

698
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:29,759
Speaker 5: Then that's that's solid.

699
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,759
Speaker 6: But when he goes to Modes place and it's just

700
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,680
eerie and ominous and he's standing there and he sees

701
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,440
the rug and then this fucking woman glides in and

702
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,720
just throws the pain, It's like, what the fuck is this?

703
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: That's good.

704
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: I mean this movie has I feel like two of

705
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,039
my favorite just like character introduction scenes in movies. One

706
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,559
is that because that's just like, what's such an insane

707
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:58,119
way to intruce a characters, like flying like zipline thing

708
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,319
is like completely new and then just starts like talking

709
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:05,599
about sex immediately and all this stuff like I'm just

710
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,519
asking about like the word vagina and if it makes

711
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,039
them uncomfortable, Like just such a what a what a

712
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:10,880
great introduction?

713
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:11,599
Speaker 1: Uh?

714
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that whole sequence with mad like all that

715
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:15,119
stuff is so funny when he goes back there and

716
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,319
then like that weird guy's in the chair and he's like, oh,

717
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,519
look is this guy's.

718
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: Deal everything he when he's laughing and everything that they say,

719
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,240
he's like, I couldn't.

720
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,519
Speaker 1: That's the stuff, Like it's it's because the big comedic

721
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,799
stuff like those scenes. Even to me, that reaction to

722
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,279
Julian Moore, I feel like you can prepare for that, right,

723
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,799
but just on the page it just says what the

724
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,720
fuck's wrong with this guy? Like that's just like a

725
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,319
basic line, right, that's just a set line and be like, Okay,

726
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,559
this guy's fucking weird.

727
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,079
Speaker 4: We're gonna tell the audience, Yeah he's a weird.

728
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: And even the dude understands that right, But it's the

729
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:58,440
way that he says just like the pronunciation, the timing

730
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,759
of it. It's all the things he does. It's with

731
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,880
the voice and it's with his facials too. Like one

732
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
of my favorite moments is when he is at Jackie's

733
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,079
place and he gets at paper, he gets a pencil

734
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440
and as he slowly reveals, like the the fence with

735
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,200
the penis just just like.

736
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 4: Bredges really, like he has like two little things that

737
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,440
runs the couch. But it's just stuff like.

738
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,559
Speaker 1: That, because that's that's the stuff that's not easy, like

739
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,799
look shocked but very surprised but kind of confused, and

740
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,799
it's like, Okay, how do you?

741
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: How do you do that?

742
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Even later on when he's drugged, like that's another hard

743
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480
thing to do. So it's that's to me, what gets

744
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,240
the dude over the top. It's not even the big

745
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:38,720
moments that he does perfectly. It's just continually always feels.

746
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,359
Speaker 4: Like a lived in character.

747
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,039
Speaker 1: And yeah, that moment of him just asking what the

748
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,039
fuck's wrong with that guy like always gets me going,

749
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,599
you know so?

750
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: And another detail that I don't know if this is

751
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,640
intentional or not, but it's kind of something I picked

752
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
up once again watching it. This time is when he's

753
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,160
like looking through the records and Maude is telling him, like, oh, yeah,

754
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,839
that guy's name is Uli. He was in like this

755
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
German electronic this weird German electronic bend. He picks up

756
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,079
the album called Autobon, and I didn't realize this, like

757
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,240
that was like a whole you know scene back in

758
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,240
the day, and like, but a specific reference here is

759
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,160
I because I saw this concert a couple months ago

760
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,039
with my dad is for this band called kraft Work,

761
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,039
who's like a German electronic band who had an album

762
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,799
called Autobon, which was like really popular and like a

763
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:20,000
big deal in that specific music scene. And so I

764
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,279
feel like that's like a direct reference to kraft Work

765
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,759
because they kind of like created this genre, which is

766
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:26,640
like a fun little reference, if that is what that is.

767
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,680
But like I'd never known what that band was until

768
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,200
I randomly went to this concert with my dad. So

769
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,640
cool reference. If that was what they were intending, I

770
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,440
feel like they were because it was kind of the

771
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,279
same sort of vibe that they were given off there.

772
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Nihilists were just fantastic and weird.

773
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,960
Every time they appeared. I was gonna mention the fight.

774
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,240
I don't know if we want to go right there.

775
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,599
That's kind of a climactic moment when they.

776
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,119
Speaker 4: Anti semi yeah, they finally did it.

777
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,759
Speaker 2: They killed my car and it's just on fire.

778
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: You got.

779
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,119
Speaker 4: That, you know, like you.

780
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:04,119
Speaker 1: Could end it in the cause like I don't forget

781
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,839
about the fight is awesome, lose, Like I don't forget

782
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:10,200
about it. But the way it's pays you get Sam Elliott,

783
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,079
you know, and and off there dudes.

784
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: Oh Bear's good.

785
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: And that's one thing. Like you talked about the callbacks

786
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,920
to the stool went out with the sais.

787
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: That's the other thing. The dude is constantly just stealing

788
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,759
what people say and say.

789
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: That to other people. And I love that. But that's anyways.

790
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,880
Back to Crookan's place, just that feels like the end

791
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,440
the movie. And when they step out, it's just like,

792
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:32,279
oh there's another good like fifteen minutes of gags about

793
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:33,480
to happen and stuff.

794
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,039
Speaker 2: So they just have their fucking boom box playing their

795
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,319
German electronic music. It's just it sets the tone and

796
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,559
it's just playing the whole fight. It's a it's a

797
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:44,440
good backdrop fight.

798
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: So guy has a sword, and then just like immediately

799
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,880
drops it and the fight actually starts.

800
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 6: Fucking us, that's the one guy. Peter Storm there is

801
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,200
his name. He played Carl Carl Hungus and he.

802
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: It's funny because he pops up every once in a while.

803
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 6: He my one of my favorite roles that he's in,

804
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,480
he's John Wick when he's talking about Baba Yaga. He's

805
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,880
at the desk and John back too, and he's like

806
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,320
freaking out when John Wick walks in.

807
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 5: He just appeared in nineteen twenty three watching that.

808
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: But then my one of my favorite roles for him

809
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,079
is with Calddy black Ops.

810
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,639
Speaker 5: He's the replacer and he pops in. He's like, I've

811
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:23,159
replaced you.

812
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 6: So you play Call of Duty and he's fucking hilarious.

813
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,280
Everything he's in he just cracks me up. So when

814
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,920
he was this, I couldn't believe it. It just blew

815
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,400
my mind.

816
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: I think he's in Fargo too, and other Coen Brothers.

817
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, I think he might have been

818
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,320
some other stuff too. He's just like a great character actor.

819
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,239
He's a guy like you want you wanted to play

820
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,320
some version of weirdo, go hire this guy you know,

821
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880
and he knocks out of the park every time. So

822
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,639
my Favoroit Mooe in that fight is obsoly asked for

823
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,239
the money, and you know, Walter's just gonna say, I'm

824
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,599
not gonna give the money, but the other two are.

825
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,400
And as the fight's proceeding, like Donnie's over there, bad

826
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,280
stuff's happening to him, Walter's biting the guy's ear off,

827
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,559
and then you had the dude over here.

828
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: He's like, here's your fucking four dollars. Man, take it.

829
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Like the guy wants to fight so bad, but they

830
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,360
literally said, I just give us what you have whatever.

831
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,400
But well there's like, you know, no, it's not gonna happen,

832
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,280
but I just love still the dude. He's like, no, no,

833
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,280
not just yeah, whatever, man, take the fucking money, and yeah,

834
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:20,400
great again break the line delivery.

835
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's funny that, like the big climactic

836
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,760
death in this movie is really not caused by any

837
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960
of the plot, Like up to that point, it's almost

838
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:33,960
just like a random circumstance, which is so much of

839
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,199
this ray. Everything is just kind of like random coincidence,

840
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,599
but not in an annoying way. But I feel I

841
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,199
don't know, I don't know if this is intentional. I'm

842
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,679
sure it is. But Donnie throw the movie, he's just

843
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000
as as we've said, like he's throwing rocks. He's always

844
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,119
getting strikes. But like I think that last scene he doesn't.

845
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:51,679
He like one pin is still left up, and then

846
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,400
he goes to sit down and he's like holding his

847
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,880
arm in a way like kind of hinting at like

848
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,519
that he's maybe like about to have a heart attack

849
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,039
or something like that. And then like throw that stressful

850
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,480
situation on him. And that makes sense that would happen.

851
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:05,119
But interesting little detail. Not something I caught first time around.

852
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:09,119
But it's like, fucking poor Donnie, man this out of

853
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:10,159
his element one time?

854
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's just a shot too.

855
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, man now, and they look over

856
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:18,599
Steva Chevy's his face first in the cement, lifeless, just

857
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:22,599
like it's just like it's a kind of an embarrassing

858
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:23,199
way to go out.

859
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,119
Speaker 4: You're just dying in this bowling parking lot. And then

860
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:27,639
you later on get.

861
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: This terrible funeral because I guess poor Donnie didn't have anybody,

862
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,599
no family, no friends.

863
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:34,039
Speaker 2: It was a funeral. Okay, it was a very beautiful

864
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,880
scene and he had lived a nice light in the phone.

865
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: John Goodman had a beautiful eulogy.

866
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: It was so well said, so awful eulogy.

867
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: And when he when he again Pati reactions when he

868
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,559
what are you talking about?

869
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:46,679
Speaker 6: Man?

870
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,159
Speaker 4: Why are you about Vietnam? When he opens up the

871
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,320
ashes and they just go.

872
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: On jem Bridge and just like yeah, but that's what

873
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480
I Oh, I'm sorry man. But that's why I love

874
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400
because even though Walter they took it like his ex wife,

875
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,119
but it all feels like they kind of have nobody.

876
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: And that's where it.

877
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: Works even better that Donnie has no friends, no family,

878
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,599
like the people that care most but Tony, those two

879
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,119
and the other people that went bowling, you know, And

880
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,480
that's where it kind of works because so many times

881
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,880
there's like at least twice where the dude is kind

882
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,440
of like he insinuates or tells well like he wants

883
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,800
nothing to do with him, but then cut to seem like, oh,

884
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,199
thanks for apologizing, man, I appreciate you. Like so it

885
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,199
just seems like they until they die are going to

886
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,239
be in this like relentless psychle of Walter does something

887
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,239
dumb or offensive and the dude breaks it off but

888
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,559
they end up back there because it's like, well, who

889
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:34,920
else are we going to bowl with the same thing?

890
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: What should we go do? Now? Oh, should just go

891
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920
fucking bowl? So it's like they just go back to

892
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,559
bowling like that's all they do. Is so uh No.

893
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,119
Speaker 1: Comedically though, scene is fantastic with the with the eulog

894
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,559
so I.

895
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:49,199
Speaker 2: Love too, just going back to the fight when poor

896
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,119
Donnie's having his heart attack, like that's when Walter's like, Kate,

897
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,079
we got to call that one one. It's like like

898
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,360
there's a whole violent ordeal. This car's on fire, like

899
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,280
nobody's calling the authorities, and it's like, okay, hey, now

900
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Donnie's having a heart attack. Now no, we got to

901
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,119
call an ambulance.

902
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 5: Like this is serious.

903
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there is some love there, even if it's

904
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:10,599
nothing but aggression that we see in this in this movie.

905
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:13,239
But yeah, like you know, Taylor with all the to

906
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,519
your nickname there, like all the shut the fuck up

907
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:18,320
Donnie's way that those are like interspliced in those conversations.

908
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,880
I think it's always funny. I love that he's always

909
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360
like three or four sentences behind on the conversation is.

910
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,639
But then also it seems like he's always you know,

911
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,239
he's bowling when like part important parts of the conversation

912
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,880
are happening, so he's like missing certain details. But I

913
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,800
love that sequence when he's talking about talking about Lennon

914
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,440
and he's like, I'm the Walrus, I'm the wall. Just

915
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,400
keeps throwing that in there and then Walter cuts him off.

916
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:44,679
Vladimir Ilion, Julia Via is Lenond like this all Like

917
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,320
that sequence is so fucking good. But I mean, every

918
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,119
every one of their Bowling Alleys scenes I could just

919
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,079
watch like infinite times over like that, just as I mentioned,

920
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,639
like the the choreography is so to speak of it,

921
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,360
like just how well it's written and how well I'm

922
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,320
sure they just practice those scenes a bunch of times

923
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440
to get those timings down. It's just yeah, it's always fantastic.

924
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:05,840
Mm hmmm.

925
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,199
Speaker 4: We want to go to next?

926
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 6: Uh, I got one thing I'll shut out, So like

927
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,119
the blue car that tails you mentioned earlier, del the Tales, Uh,

928
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,480
the dude around for a little bit and the one

929
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,159
scene where he finally pops up. I've only seen that

930
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,559
actor in one other thing. He plays a character called

931
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,400
Silvio in Seinfeld and so I I guess I think

932
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:34,199
he's in a few Uh Coke Cohen is the name

933
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,800
of the guys that did this Cohen Brothers, So I

934
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920
think I saw he was in a few of their movies.

935
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: But when he finally gets busted and the dude like

936
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,920
he's like, get out of the fucking car, man, get

937
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,239
out of the car, and he.

938
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,599
Speaker 6: Like comes out, he's like I when he said I'm

939
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,800
brother Shameless, and he's like he's like the Irish monk.

940
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,639
Speaker 5: He's like, what the fuck you're talking about?

941
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: Like when the dude like sees him, he's like trying

942
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,599
to start his car, Like really, what.

943
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: Do you say?

944
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,039
Speaker 3: We pool our resources? Yeah, And I love that. That's

945
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,440
like essentially just like a random piece of like backstory

946
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,039
for Bunny. But that's like really the only purpose of

947
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,239
that other than adding just like I guess a little

948
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,159
bit of tension of like, oh, who is this guy

949
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,880
who's tailing the dude? And like really, we see it

950
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,280
in two scenes. And I read up on this detail

951
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,000
today that apparently when uh, the dude and Walter are

952
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,960
like getting coffee, when when Walter's like, I get you

953
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,800
a toe by three o'clock in the afternoon, and that

954
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,320
that scene apparently, like the car drives by in the

955
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
background in that shot too, which I've never actually caught,

956
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
but apparently that's a fun little detail, so I don't

957
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,360
know the other times that it's hidden in the background,

958
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,599
but yeah, I love that. That's like another one of

959
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,840
those threads that's probably the least consequential thread in the

960
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,639
whole movie, other than like maybe the teenager stealing the

961
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,599
car as well, which is just because it's just completely

962
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,400
disconnected from anything else, but it just adds a little

963
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,320
bit of complexity in there that's like perfect for the

964
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:55,679
mystery of this whole thing.

965
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,159
Speaker 6: When he's raging in the coffee shop too, he's like,

966
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,800
you know, brothers dying of fucking Vietnam, buried in the ground,

967
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:04,679
so you could sit you in your family restaurant.

968
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 5: I'm gonna drink my coffee. He's just such a such

969
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:08,239
a spaz.

970
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: Holy shit, they cut I don't know if they cut

971
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,639
it the line and they film didn't cut it, but

972
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920
same thing in the original script they had at that

973
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,760
funeral when the dude got bad, he reveals that Walter

974
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,480
has actually never been to Vietnam, but they took that out, so,

975
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,400
which I kind of like because I like it kind

976
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,880
of insinuating because like he he reads both ways of

977
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,800
a guy that could have gone had this person or

978
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,079
a guy that like he went but he like never

979
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:33,679
saw any action, like he was like back at base

980
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000
like shining shoes or something, but like he's hard now.

981
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,599
Speaker 3: But uh uh, Yeah, I think I read that it

982
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,320
was something like because a lot of these characters, including

983
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,159
the dude, are like based off people that they knew

984
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,280
in real life, and the guy that Walter's character is

985
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,239
based off like couldn't like wanted to go to the

986
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,119
war but couldn't because he had like asthma or something

987
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:52,760
like that, and so that was like a part of

988
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,239
his personality is that, like he really wanted to go

989
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,039
to the war to fight for his country kind of thing,

990
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,280
but he couldn't. So yeah, but I noted. I learned

991
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,599
that detail too, and it's interesting that they decide. I

992
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:04,280
think it's good that they kept it over to the script.

993
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,039
I agree, because I mean, I guess there technically could

994
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:08,360
still be that mystery there, but I think it works

995
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
better if that is actually his backstory instead of just

996
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,360
like this, Well, it makes it even more pathetic than

997
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,159
he already is, you know.

998
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially to I feel like it doesn't track

999
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,719
with at the end when he wants to fight right

1000
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,440
that you'd almost keep that line if he because if

1001
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,280
they all back off, you'd be like, well, weren't you

1002
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
in Vietnam, dude, Then that's when you would reveal, oh, no,

1003
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,440
I never was, because he does. You know, he's like,

1004
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,800
you're not taking my money. We're gonna fucking fight, like

1005
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,800
he's will in the final three of them. That's where

1006
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,840
I think it works to to have him still go

1007
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,880
there and everything. But uh uh, but when we're talking

1008
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,159
about that scene about with the whole bunny and trying

1009
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,079
to get her back and everything like that, when you

1010
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,519
Taylor saying that he cared about the girl, what I

1011
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,239
found interested in that scene. The last thing they have

1012
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,039
together is that you know, he's.

1013
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:51,199
Speaker 4: Don't fuck with my lady friend.

1014
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: They don't bug my lady friend, which I found very

1015
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,320
surprising because he was like mad, but like he's he's

1016
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,920
always like questioning her, like he's he's in awe for

1017
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,119
in a way where I think just also thinks she's

1018
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:02,639
very weird.

1019
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,119
Speaker 4: But then you know they have sex.

1020
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 1: She says she's trying to get pregnant and then she's delays, Oh,

1021
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:07,920
you don't have to worry about it. He's still don't

1022
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,760
a little uneasy, but the fact that you just had

1023
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,079
to make sure, like hey, you leave her alone. I

1024
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,000
liked that and the dude quality because he has a

1025
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:16,880
he's some sort of you know, they have some sort

1026
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,559
of kindred spirit thing going on, even though they'd be

1027
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,360
completely different people, but it works. And I really like

1028
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,159
their bed scene too before they like the joke there

1029
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:26,599
of like them just getting to know each other, him

1030
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,880
talk about yeah, you know about the Seattle seven and

1031
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,960
all this, like just all the little like lower stuff

1032
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,840
because for me, like I think it is true, but

1033
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320
he also reminds me if he fledges Joker, and he

1034
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,280
fledgers Joker gives himself like three origins in the dark Knight,

1035
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Like the dude sometimes feels like that to me, where

1036
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,800
I'm sure like either all of this is true or

1037
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,840
like none of this is true, or it's like, uh,

1038
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480
like he has a hazy memory of it. So it's

1039
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:52,840
like I could literally have seen him being around where

1040
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,920
the Seattle seven was and he thought he was apartment

1041
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,199
but he actually never was.

1042
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,039
Speaker 4: So but I like that. I like that it's just not.

1043
00:43:58,159 --> 00:43:59,239
It's just you know what.

1044
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: He did for recurry, you know, you know, I get

1045
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,760
a bowl, you know, and she's expecting this big answer

1046
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,039
but uh yeah, no, uh I like that. And then

1047
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,079
you the other thing you mentioned it was in inconsequential,

1048
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,519
but I it's my favorite line in the movie is

1049
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,800
so they get the homework, they find okay, a kids

1050
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,880
stole that, they're gonna go there and interrogate him.

1051
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,159
Speaker 4: Now, don't forget before this that's from the second time

1052
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,400
with the Marmot.

1053
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: You know, they break the radio, break everything, dudes find it,

1054
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,320
but they many times, hey, we're gonna cut your cock off.

1055
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:34,360
So in him and Walter are interrogating him, which like

1056
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,800
the dudes like what we're gonna do when I was like, oh,

1057
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,440
trust me, you kind of think the dude's gonna stay back, right,

1058
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,840
he's not gonna do that much. But no, he's he's

1059
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,840
up there, where's my fucking money, where's my car? Like

1060
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,440
all this stuff right and right.

1061
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: In the Minneral Walter's like, Hey, where's my fucking mindy,

1062
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,159
what's going on? We're gonna cut.

1063
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: Your dick off, Larry like again, because he's using the

1064
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,519
threat that someone gave him, but it is Bridges delivery

1065
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:55,280
that That's always been my favorite line in this movie

1066
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,679
because it's it's out of nowhere and we know the dude,

1067
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,519
that's not gonna happen. And I kind of like that

1068
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,440
the kid knows that too, Like the kids looking at

1069
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,159
these guys like you're not gonna do any of that's

1070
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,039
what you're saying about, Like, yeah, he's a dumb kid,

1071
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,920
but it just feels like they both come off these

1072
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,000
massive losers. But yeah, uh, Jeff Bridge's line delivery, it's

1073
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:14,960
just so quick, we're gonna cut your tick off, Larry,

1074
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,199
and it's just like immaculate.

1075
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,599
Speaker 4: It's so good. So that's why I'm happy the kids

1076
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:20,199
stole there.

1077
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: And then you get the parking lot scene and again

1078
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,519
his car gets messed up and Walter doesn't apologize to

1079
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:27,880
like the day later they stop, you get some food and.

1080
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,199
Speaker 4: You know, same thing. Donnie is really no idea what's

1081
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:31,760
going on. But yeah, my favorite line of the movie

1082
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,559
is that one right there.

1083
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:35,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it it makes sense because at that point,

1084
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:38,119
like because we don't see the briefcase again, but it's

1085
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:40,239
assumed that the kid did get it open. Some I

1086
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,599
think I had a lock on it, but he must

1087
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,360
have gone it open somehow and knows that there's nothing

1088
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,119
in there at that point. But I also love like

1089
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:51,679
just the completely a random character backstory there that this

1090
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,119
kid's father was like a writer on this show, and

1091
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,440
like it's a show that like Walter was like a

1092
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,199
big fan of and he's like one hundred and sixty

1093
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:59,199
three episodes like the broach of the series. Like whatever

1094
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,760
he says there, suit he's like, your show, especially the

1095
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,280
early seasons are so inspirational that there's like a little

1096
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,480
backheaded calm to that, like the writing got like worse

1097
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,440
over time or something, but yeah, yeah, just ran a

1098
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,880
piece and like what a crazy machine that's.

1099
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: And that's where like this movie never gets to like

1100
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,480
parody's status. I feel like it gets like right on

1101
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,920
the line, like it's like that that joke when they

1102
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,719
because that's what happened, where it'll be like fifteen twenty

1103
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,800
minutes of just stone or calmedy, very well written, very clever,

1104
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:34,679
but then something like that happens even John Goodman like

1105
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:36,840
spinning like bind the guy's ear off and spinning up

1106
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,440
in the air that's near.

1107
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: Those like naked gun like Austin Powers for things.

1108
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: So when they walk like, hey, Larry, so the dang

1109
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,840
and then like the dude walks up like but there's

1110
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,920
no comment about it. It's just accepted. It's not like

1111
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,519
it's just in the world. And then they move on

1112
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,760
to the rest of the scene like it is just

1113
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,559
like talks to him, doesn't he Well, you guys what

1114
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:57,440
I mean, Like, there's not like a there's not like

1115
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,480
a they call it out of being weirder. I've never

1116
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,599
seen that befo, where'res just accepted like all these guys

1117
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,880
in that tank and like in a parody where you

1118
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,000
just accept the craziness stuff that happens, right, like this

1119
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,440
is an outer world thing, so it's not parody.

1120
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,119
Speaker 4: But that's right.

1121
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,079
Speaker 1: They're like the tippy toes are right on it. But

1122
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,039
I love it because yeah, and then you just continue

1123
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:15,199
on like that's a joke. You don't even have to

1124
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,840
put in there, him in the tank, you don't have

1125
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,159
to put them all. But they just had this idea

1126
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:19,719
and it's just wacky and wild.

1127
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,679
Speaker 4: But I love it.

1128
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Agreed. Uh, Yeah, I want to highlight a couple other

1129
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:30,000
because Travis you mentioned, like his just constantly reusing other

1130
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:33,119
characters lines I feel like almost every character has some

1131
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,119
line that's reused with another one, which is like a

1132
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,280
fun little thing to track on like subsequent rewatches. But

1133
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,119
obviously the first one is like when he's at the

1134
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:43,039
grocery store and there's one of the bushes is on TV,

1135
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,800
like giving a speech. This aggression will not stand, and

1136
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,440
then he whips that one out, like in the meeting

1137
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,199
with the big Lebowski, or even like the big Lebowski

1138
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,440
is the one who like is talking about like this

1139
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:55,159
or that abides I forget what the exact line is,

1140
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:57,159
and then obviously that's like his iconic line. Later the

1141
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,480
dude bides something incent saying something about the parlance of

1142
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,159
our time, and then he uses that when he's like

1143
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,800
in the limo later on too. So yeah, that's a

1144
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,440
really fun thread that, like every rewatch, I feel like

1145
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,400
I catch, like, oh that line, Yeah I noticed that

1146
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,440
now some other characters said that earlier on. But yeah,

1147
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,559
he's just he's you know, he's much like Donnie. He's

1148
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,840
out of his element. He doesn't he kind of has

1149
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,599
to just pull from things other people are saying. I

1150
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:21,000
think it's a fun character detail.

1151
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: M That's why how muchhould I believe him with all

1152
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,440
these stories everything like that, So what else is he

1153
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,320
picked up and stuff?

1154
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 4: But no, it's a it's a good.

1155
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: Uh revolving kind of door thing. And obviously they cap

1156
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,960
it off with Sam Elliott, who is such a it's

1157
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,079
like a I enjoy the choice. It's just like such

1158
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:39,239
a fun random choice.

1159
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 4: He just sounds so namored with the dude. But that's

1160
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,480
where it kind of.

1161
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: Works too, because they feel like whether that is like

1162
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,039
a spiritual character or literally just another patron who is

1163
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,119
just he goes his bowl and Elley goes his bar,

1164
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,760
and you just constantly hear stories about the dude and

1165
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,280
his crew and like what they're getting.

1166
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,039
Speaker 4: Up to and same thing. It's almost the same thing

1167
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:57,360
I look at.

1168
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I wish I could have that kind

1169
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,079
of care free attitude, but he can. That's where samlie

1170
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,199
like he he just talks about him like he's a

1171
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,400
fucking like an angel, like like the dude is gone

1172
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,480
and the Sam Elliot is one of his disciples. He's

1173
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,440
just so always happen to see him a few times,

1174
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,960
And no, I enjoy that.

1175
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:17,599
Speaker 3: So it's it's a funny, Like there's two things funny

1176
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,679
about that one. I mean, I absolutely love the intro

1177
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,639
when he's you know, kind of describing the story, doing

1178
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,880
that intro narrator thing, but then he just like loses

1179
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,119
track of what he's saying and trails off and then

1180
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,119
just kind of like that to me is such a fun,

1181
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:33,480
unique thing. I can't think of like another time where

1182
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:36,880
like a narrator has had dialogue like that, right, that

1183
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,400
also feels like a human that just you know, we've

1184
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,679
all done that on the podcast, Like, uh shit, I

1185
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,400
forget the point I was trying to make. Its getting

1186
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,800
so lost in it or trying to use like fancy

1187
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,079
words and sound fun, and I don't know, there's so

1188
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,920
many just fun little things in there. And he's like

1189
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,039
he's not really a hero, because what's a hero? And

1190
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,199
then he starts talking randomly about that for a minute,

1191
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,440
He's like, I've never seen the Queen and her darn dundy.

1192
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,880
He's like, does all these points in that in that

1193
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,440
narration sequence is so fun? Then the fact that he

1194
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,119
becomes a character, because obviously a lot of movies do

1195
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:05,960
that where like the narrator is a character in it.

1196
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:07,639
But I feel like I can't think of another one

1197
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,119
where it's just like a nothing character who has really

1198
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,760
nothing to do with the plot other than being the narrator,

1199
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,480
and he just pops up at one or two points

1200
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,079
to like talk with the protagonist at some point. Almost

1201
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,079
feels like a godlike character. But I think, as you mentioned, Travis,

1202
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,400
with like the Coen Brothers doing other Westerns, I think

1203
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,480
it's funny that this gives the movie a bit of

1204
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:27,679
a Western tinge. And obviously, like the opening sequence with

1205
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,000
like the tumbleweed just going through it just like doesn't

1206
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:33,559
really fit thematically with anything else that's going on here,

1207
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,199
as from the Western's eye scene. But I think it's

1208
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,000
a fun I think it's a fun detail makes it

1209
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:41,320
just feel like mythical in a way.

1210
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because Taylor, there's some stuff you quoted.

1211
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:46,159
That's why I think, and I just watched recently, I

1212
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,719
think you will enjoy Once Upon Time, Hollywood, because I

1213
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,519
think it has similar vibes.

1214
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: To this movie.

1215
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,119
Speaker 1: But that's that's the only one I could think of

1216
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,960
off the top of my head. Is Kurt Russell in

1217
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:56,960
that movie. He narrates it, but then he's just the

1218
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,480
stunt coordinator for that one scene, and then he's never

1219
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,119
seen again, and so it's one of this thing where

1220
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,280
he starts as a narrator, so you think, okay, car

1221
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,320
Russell's narrator, and then he comes in first scene, so like, okay,

1222
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,280
he's gonna be make character, and then that goes away

1223
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,000
for a while and then at.

1224
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,679
Speaker 4: The end he comes back.

1225
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's it's not he doesn't have

1226
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,039
the same preference because he hates Brad Pitt where this

1227
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,599
is the verse of Samue Aliott. You know, I would

1228
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:17,719
say loves the dude or has.

1229
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:19,599
Speaker 4: A great respect for him. But that's the only thing

1230
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:19,960
I can think.

1231
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: It's like so many yeah exactly, So, yeah, that's only

1232
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,280
one good thing that kind of goes there.

1233
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,519
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you haven't seen that. I can't remember.

1234
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: We're talking about that recently again of why you might

1235
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,920
have to watch it, But you should definitely give that

1236
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,039
a go because I feel like that's uh up to

1237
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:36,440
some tempos here, lots of random stuff, lots lots.

1238
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,519
Speaker 4: Of people being bribed to suck Cox in that one too.

1239
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,159
Speaker 6: You know, So I was not expecting Sam Elliott to

1240
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:43,519
actually pop in as a character. I thought, okay, cool,

1241
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,559
they got him doing the narration that's that's fitting. That's fun.

1242
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,360
It's kind of like, I can't think of another example,

1243
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,239
but those are the other movies and whatnot. You have

1244
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,199
usually like a familiar voice doing a narration at the start,

1245
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,840
and then it kind of you don't ever see him,

1246
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,079
but it's just they're they're they're lending their voice to

1247
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:06,000
that narrative. And Samleiot has such a unique voice.

1248
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 5: Which you know, eighteen eighties, don't try it, try it.

1249
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think him popping in and like you

1250
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,079
guys already said him just kind of worshiping the dude

1251
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:16,679
and just you know, he's just so casual and just

1252
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,239
so chill.

1253
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:21,079
Speaker 5: Uh. Yeah, it fits in a weird way. He's like, yeah,

1254
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,880
I like your I like what you you're wearing. He's like, yeah,

1255
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,280
I like your whole cowboy thing. You got going on.

1256
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,559
Speaker 1: Another character that I wish was in it more, but

1257
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:32,719
I get why they're not. And it was smaller, you know,

1258
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,599
I was joking with it at the beginning, but man,

1259
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:38,239
Philip seymer Hoffman is just so damn good man. And

1260
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,559
that's where everyone kind of, I won't say forgets, but

1261
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:43,079
I feel like there is two generations of fans and

1262
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:46,039
it was like after the Dimssion possible and a little

1263
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,559
bit brownn did Capodi and he did doubt like he's

1264
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,280
doing all these oscaring on me. He became a serious

1265
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,400
actor and he was always in that type of stuff.

1266
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,840
But people I said, don't forget or they might have known.

1267
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,320
The nineties his career was just filled with this. I

1268
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,360
made a little of the early two thousand just with

1269
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,360
side characters. That man, he just delivered so well.

1270
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 4: But even to the point where I don't know why.

1271
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: Whether he does it out of a minor respect, whether

1272
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,679
he does it to be like kind of a smart

1273
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,039
like businessman that he starts referring to him as the

1274
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,920
dude and like giving him some sort of respect that way.

1275
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,679
So and again I don't know, it could go either way,

1276
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:21,159
because other characters have that affinity, you know, Julia McMahon

1277
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,440
or not, Julian and Moore, Sam Elliott, like they have

1278
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:26,639
that infinity with the dude. So maybe his charm worked

1279
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:29,159
on Hoffman. But Hoffman is just great. And that's where

1280
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:30,800
I just I don't know where I get fit the plot.

1281
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,599
I wish it was just like two to three more

1282
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:35,639
scenes of him, because he's just such an enjoyable, breath

1283
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,320
of fresh air character. And he's not like anyone else

1284
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,119
because I feel like most characters, i'd say, other than

1285
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,400
like the the foreign you know, bounty hunters, in a

1286
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,599
sense like they're all pretty low energy.

1287
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 4: You know, Jesus is there, but he's he's in and

1288
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:48,280
out right.

1289
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,159
Speaker 1: He's I don't even think screen times even five minutes,

1290
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:51,039
so he's high energy.

1291
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 4: But most the other.

1292
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,159
Speaker 1: Characters are pretty subdued, normal people. It's how they act,

1293
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,679
which is weird. But Phillip Symore Hoffman is like at

1294
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,360
least at a dying because he just seems like he's

1295
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,239
very he's very stressed out and always has a lot

1296
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,920
going on. But yeah, shout hoff Man. I still wish

1297
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,760
that guy was around giving us this type of stuff

1298
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,920
because he's just one of the best to ever do it.

1299
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,639
Speaker 2: You know, when oh, go ahead, I was gonna say,

1300
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,159
when Bunny gets back to the place and he's just

1301
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,519
like picking up her clothes and he's stressed. Obviously the

1302
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,360
plan didn't work. And then the dude gets there, he's like, please,

1303
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,239
please don't upset him. He's he's extremely upset right now,

1304
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,559
Like he's just so stressed. It's like, what you're saying, Trevis,

1305
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:28,840
he's just so high strung and this is just octane

1306
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,360
level nine, like like it is too much for him

1307
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,159
to handle. But he's still just trying to be composed

1308
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,360
as much he is, like he's very much professional, and

1309
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,960
uh yeah, I just I love his role and I

1310
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
love when he just starts calling him the dude as well,

1311
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,920
like after jeff Bridges telling her to understand.

1312
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,199
Speaker 6: When he's in the car with uh like get know

1313
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,760
the Bowski, Jeffrey.

1314
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: And like that whole scene too, when he gets out.

1315
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,039
Speaker 6: Of the limo from mode and then he just gets

1316
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:58,519
fucking tackled and thrown into another limo right away, and

1317
00:54:58,679 --> 00:54:59,079
it's just.

1318
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: And he barely still was a drop of his drink.

1319
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 6: He's a seamless, seamless But yeah, then they're just like,

1320
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,079
where's my money? And then yeah, Hoffman is just like,

1321
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:14,440
where's our money, dude. He's just repeating the same things

1322
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,679
that the little bawsk he's just saying. It's just that

1323
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,239
cracked me up. I always liked him in Along Came PAULI.

1324
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,639
That's one of my uh.

1325
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like one of the flat comedic roles. Yeah,

1326
00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:26,239
so he's great.

1327
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love his I love just the exaggerated way

1328
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,239
he like opens doors and stuff. Like he's just so

1329
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,199
theatrical with the way he does everything. And obviously they're

1330
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,119
in like an extremely expensive mansion as well, but he

1331
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,360
really owns that space. He really like choose the scenery,

1332
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,880
like really makes himself feel like a video game NPC

1333
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,880
in that space or than like a human in a way.

1334
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,960
But it's uh yeah, it's a it's a great role

1335
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,079
for him.

1336
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,199
Speaker 2: Man. There's a lot of like vehicle scenes in this movie,

1337
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,000
and I mean we talked about the limo one I mentioned.

1338
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,519
My favorite scene of the movie is probably the failed

1339
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:03,559
hand off with the.

1340
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 5: Walter and I.

1341
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: I just love this moment though, because like, of course

1342
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,559
the dude brings Walter on this mission, which is just

1343
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,000
like the biggest wild card that you could ever have

1344
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:18,519
on like kay, like so simple feel, you know, it's

1345
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:20,159
so simple what we have to do.

1346
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 5: Let's just do it.

1347
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: We get the money, everybody wins, and he's like, Okay,

1348
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,360
we're gonna do this. It's it's you know, I got

1349
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,559
my dirty laundry in there. It's a ringer, like he's

1350
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,960
just he pulls out the oozy when he jumps out

1351
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,320
of the vehicle and it just drops and just going

1352
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,039
off like it's just so chaotic. The dude crashes the

1353
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,079
vehicle and even just phone call, you know, who's that?

1354
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: Who's that dude? Who's right away? Yeah, and he calls

1355
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,960
back like is that them.

1356
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,119
Speaker 1: Or like whatever variation he says there and just even

1357
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:52,800
then like the same thing. It's a simple plan. But

1358
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,039
the second they're in the car and the scene they're

1359
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,719
talking about it, Walter's already giving like different scenarios they

1360
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,159
could do, like trying cheese, these people.

1361
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:02,199
Speaker 4: Get more money, and it's just like he's such a

1362
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,199
such a wild card.

1363
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: But you know he's gonna be there for you know,

1364
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,039
no matter what, except for he's on the Jewish hall

1365
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:09,440
day and that took a lot of yeah, which I

1366
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:11,920
understood the dude's perspective, like you're not even Jewish, your

1367
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,719
ex wife was Jewish.

1368
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,199
Speaker 4: You converted.

1369
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: He's like, well, can't convert, like can't unconvert or whatever

1370
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:16,719
he says.

1371
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: You know, he like fells in the details of what's

1372
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,480
going on. He's like, I understand that, but like you said,

1373
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,280
there's live or death.

1374
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,159
Speaker 5: He's like so distraught.

1375
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: I already took your call I did that for you.

1376
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: So the phone, I don't use, the stove, I don't drive,

1377
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,840
and I sure ship don't roll.

1378
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 6: Uh.

1379
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,159
Speaker 2: The other vehicles that you don't want to shout out

1380
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,039
is I think it's, as my name mentions, it's when

1381
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,880
he gets arrested in Malibu, he's just I don't want

1382
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,679
your jerk off face. You know, he's just just the

1383
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:49,840
cops going at him, whips that fucking coffee right at

1384
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,320
his face. And then and then he gets the cab

1385
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,880
and uh, he's just very upset. He's injured. And the

1386
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,920
guy's just listening to the Eagles. He's like, can you

1387
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,719
turn this song off?

1388
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 5: He's like, fuck you this. I love this song. It's

1389
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,519
like I just hate the Eagles.

1390
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:07,599
Speaker 4: Guy.

1391
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:09,719
Speaker 2: It just pulls him out of the vehicle, like it's

1392
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,239
just oh man, like all.

1393
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:14,639
Speaker 3: A lot of water in this town, dude.

1394
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 6: All those scenes, like because there's so many triggering factors

1395
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,239
for Walter, and you'd think that when Jesus pops in

1396
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,119
that would be such a triggering factor. When Jesus like

1397
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920
does this bowle at and then he's like talking shit

1398
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,760
and this is his first intro. He's talking ship to

1399
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,800
Walter and the dude and all that, and then he leaves.

1400
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:36,119
Speaker 5: The whole time, like, Walter does not freak out. He

1401
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:37,159
just is very calm.

1402
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 6: But I feel like the only reason he's calm is

1403
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,800
because he knows the other guy is just so fucked up,

1404
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,199
because when he leaves, he looks at the dude, he's

1405
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:44,199
like eight year old.

1406
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Is that the piece in the trivia where every character

1407
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,119
he comes like that has some sort of scene with

1408
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:52,599
or whatever. Walter will get up in his face and yell, well,

1409
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:55,280
that's the only character he does not confront is Jesus

1410
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,880
because whatever reason, he is.

1411
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: Some sort of wild card.

1412
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,199
Speaker 1: But yeah, to to that scene, that crickle mention always

1413
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:02,960
spoke to me because I was somebody that I grew

1414
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:04,360
up with everyone loving the Eagles.

1415
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: I won't say I'm the dude where I fucking hate

1416
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,280
the Eagles.

1417
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,639
Speaker 1: But man, very uh very overrated band in my opinion,

1418
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,679
just saying that. So yeah, it's like Juliana Moore, No,

1419
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,880
that's they're wrong on that side of history.

1420
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,239
Speaker 2: There, So another another car scene to shout out. I

1421
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,679
think it's the last of my my triage. I think

1422
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:28,039
it's after he does the doctor visit and then it's

1423
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,400
like a quick cut to the great gift that Dylan

1424
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,800
bestowed upon as many, many upon times when he's in

1425
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,920
the car and he's just had he's just vibing, he's

1426
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,440
having such a good time. He like has his douby.

1427
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,800
He starts noticing I think, I think that guy's following him.

1428
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,920
I can't remember all the details, but he goes to

1429
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,360
flick it out of the window, windows rolled up, lands

1430
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,920
on his lap and he's just like swerves so erradically

1431
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,079
he could have easily killed a pedestrian. Thank god he

1432
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,599
didn't swerves out. And then he just like crashes, so

1433
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,480
uh just yeah with damage ready to into the and

1434
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:00,519
it's not just like a regular single track can It's

1435
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:02,639
like a full dumpster that he hits, yeah, flips over.

1436
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:06,480
It's just so extreme. But yeah, I just love that

1437
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,599
because like the scene starts with him just listening to music,

1438
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:12,159
and that's how it ends. It is just, yeah, a

1439
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,559
big car crash, but yeah it.

1440
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:18,599
Speaker 7: Gets comedians tapes, you get the commn hyped. Would you

1441
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:19,639
say credence is what it is?

1442
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:20,519
Speaker 3: Is credence tapes?

1443
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1444
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 7: Okay, shouts such credence you don't know c c R

1445
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:26,320
Come on, I don't.

1446
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:27,559
Speaker 2: Know Credence, I know Creed.

1447
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: That's what he's He's like, what they're like, what's in

1448
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,400
the cars? I got my tape deck, got my FREEDOMCE tapes.

1449
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,920
But yeah out my back.

1450
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,039
Speaker 5: Door, we didn't take your tape deck.

1451
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah I let's let's talk about uh, let's talk about

1452
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,599
Jesus here because me this is like I mentioned mode

1453
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:47,880
and that's like such a great character introduction, but this

1454
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:51,760
might be my single favorite character introduction in any movie ever.

1455
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:56,400
Just like this slow kind of Spanish guitar starting out.

1456
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:59,920
You start with seeing his hands with like he's got

1457
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,599
these fucking dark souls rings on. He's got like one

1458
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:06,480
painted fingernail one hend has like the arm brace on it,

1459
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,840
kind of cooling his hand on the little fan there

1460
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,280
on the bowling machine kind of lifts it up to

1461
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,440
his face, licking the ball in like just the creepiest

1462
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,880
way possible. And then the way that like the song

1463
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,599
kicks up as he like throws it with like just

1464
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:24,320
the Spanish version of Hotel California. Fucking incredible stuff, like

1465
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,360
just really sets the scene for like, who is this

1466
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:30,400
freaking he's wearing like this purple nick jumpsuit and he's

1467
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,199
just like his his fucking hips. The way his hips

1468
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:36,239
are moving are absolutely insane, which just like goes directly

1469
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,199
into like them talking about who this guy is and

1470
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,119
him sharing while they're sharing the story of him being

1471
01:01:41,159 --> 01:01:44,360
a peterass and all this stuff is so fucking great.

1472
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,199
And then when you finally get his dialogue in there

1473
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:48,360
and you expect his name to be Jeseus, but it's

1474
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,719
like no, and this guy's name is actually Jesus. And

1475
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,840
then just any scene after that when him and Liam

1476
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,599
are like, you know, buffing the ball, like all that

1477
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:01,800
stuff is so good. So yeah, I uh, I love

1478
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,599
that character. He's obviously total creep, but he can roll, man,

1479
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:06,960
he can roll.

1480
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: I love you like the duo of you got Liam,

1481
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:15,679
who's just like the most normal looking bowler dude, and Jesus,

1482
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,840
Like this is the dynamic duo. Yeah, like you think

1483
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,639
maybe I don't know too wild card character. It's like no,

1484
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,639
just Jesus and his and his counterpart Liam, who's always

1485
01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:26,840
there with him. You know, he's always when Jesus going

1486
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,320
to confront him, he's he's right there, he's holding him back.

1487
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,679
When uh, it's like a or something like what do

1488
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:35,519
they call you? They passed on the event. I can't

1489
01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:37,719
remember what the detail was for why they weren't rolling

1490
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,599
that day, like why it gets pushed.

1491
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:43,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's remember it's like the all.

1492
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Right, yeah that's a day of rest.

1493
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, great intro. Great character.

1494
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: That's a character that when I watched the first time,

1495
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,480
thought was going to be in it a lot more

1496
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:56,519
because I'd always seen not even memes at that point

1497
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,280
back then, but just it was I think always would

1498
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,079
come up and pop or side characters or whatnot. But uh, yeah, great,

1499
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:07,320
great performance. I'm sure in Jesus Roles they explained that

1500
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,079
the exposing himself to an eight year old was like

1501
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,719
an accident or something.

1502
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to drill belfunction.

1503
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:15,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm guessing.

1504
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: But and even just that kind of like, oh, I

1505
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,280
had to go down the neighborhood and you see him

1506
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,559
before years ago, and he's very solemn, very like you know,

1507
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:24,360
this is a terrible thing, and now he's just like

1508
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:28,360
wild out there. So I have no idea, but yeah, great,

1509
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:30,119
great little side performance there.

1510
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:38,239
Speaker 3: M hmm. Let's see. I love the dudes drinks of choice.

1511
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:40,440
He has like the MGD beers, and then he obviously

1512
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,320
has like the white Russian, which is like almost a paralyzer,

1513
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,800
which are also that's like my go to cheap beer

1514
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,599
and like my one of my go to uh like

1515
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,039
cocktails that I make. But it's nasty that he just

1516
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:54,599
like keeps the milk like on his counter. Like it's

1517
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:56,119
not that's crazy most of the time.

1518
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not good. That's just just the thought

1519
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,079
of that not not well.

1520
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mostly have just some quick quick

1521
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:10,840
fire one one. I love that one of the tree

1522
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,719
Jackie Truehorn's gangster guys is the guy the players like

1523
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,719
Rita's like shitty husband, Dexter. I feel like that's always

1524
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,920
like the two roles that I've known this guy from,

1525
01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:24,480
which are like could be the same guy for all

1526
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,039
I know, seem like it could be the same.

1527
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: Could you imagine Dexter the bowler, him, Masouka and Batista

1528
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:34,960
bump up to the dude and everything like that.

1529
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,679
Speaker 4: Dex is looking at Jesus.

1530
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: Sides of the country, but like I could still see.

1531
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,119
Speaker 1: It, And fuck, I'd give anything to have dogs interact

1532
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:43,920
with these characters.

1533
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,039
Speaker 4: You think the dude gets annoyed. Just think about dogs.

1534
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: Being able to crack this case, this case that is

1535
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,760
completely illogical and like all these people just have no

1536
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,280
relations to you.

1537
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he cracked Dexter first, right, like no one

1538
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,599
cracked Xter, and he figured to make sense.

1539
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: This is just like random events occurring to some extent, Right,

1540
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,519
it's kind of hard.

1541
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:04,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I trust in Dokes Stokes. You know, he's badass.

1542
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: So and I I like that canon that that's Paul

1543
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,480
And yeah that the bowling Miami team, but I guess

1544
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,400
they're not Miami, but you know, may maybe maybe maybe

1545
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,880
there's like an American tournament that happened somewhere down the line,

1546
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,239
ye Nationals.

1547
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1548
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: One actor that I think is so good that he

1549
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,639
doesn't even seem like an actor to me, just seems

1550
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:24,840
like a guy. Is the landlord. Uh just you know

1551
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,639
you only seemed like two scenes, but just like the

1552
01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:29,360
sweetest guy. He's pretty lax on the rent. Then he

1553
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,519
just has like this really odd performance and I love

1554
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:34,800
that Walter like shows up a bit late and he

1555
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,079
has like this whole plan to go to the teenager's

1556
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:38,800
house and he's like, you know, when we're done, like

1557
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,119
the uh, what have you here? Like he can't even

1558
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:43,719
comprehend like what they're watching. That's just not something he's

1559
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,719
ever sat down to watch before.

1560
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, all I got is quick fire notes too.

1561
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the I'm gonna attribute this.

1562
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,320
Is it like when Walter calls people dunce. I call

1563
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,760
people that, and I just when I saw nine it's

1564
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,679
near the Andie's like, you're being a fucking dunce. And

1565
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:07,400
I remember the first time I called Emily that, she

1566
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:08,920
just gave me a look like what are you talking about?

1567
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:15,519
And I did not directly call that, and I don't know, yeah, no, no,

1568
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:16,480
And now she.

1569
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 5: Calls me that too, But it's just like she drop

1570
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:20,480
a dish and you maybe it's.

1571
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Probably around the time when you start trying to be

1572
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:25,239
a bit more like political correct, like everyone in there,

1573
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,559
you know, elementary teen schools, like you're saying stuff for

1574
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:29,400
You're like, oh, now that I know the meaning of this,

1575
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:31,800
you don't say that. But Dunce is always like, well,

1576
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,400
it's Dunce caps the dumb kid in the corner. So

1577
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,360
it's like, you know, it's about I can't remember. I

1578
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,599
think he might call Donnie a dunce, to be honest,

1579
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:40,760
I'm pretty sure, but when I saw that, Na, I'm like,

1580
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:43,239
it's kinda I had a Taylor wrong term, and I'm like, oh,

1581
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,519
this is where I could have picked it up around

1582
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:47,519
then and started dropping like that would have been the

1583
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,039
zeitgeist of my mind.

1584
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,519
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we talked about the Yeah, no, I think

1585
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:52,079
we hit them all.

1586
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: And then the only other one why I love is

1587
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,639
near the beginning of the film is uh the dudes

1588
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:59,519
recounted the story to DONI and Walter and like, again,

1589
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,119
just mine or it's just a rug whatever, but of

1590
01:07:02,159 --> 01:07:04,400
course wal there's a man that's such a loss, like

1591
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,159
that rug.

1592
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,679
Speaker 4: Really held the room together, Like dude.

1593
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really held together, but like, oh yeah,

1594
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,039
it's just a great delivery there.

1595
01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: And everyone else always says it too, like even Donnie

1596
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,800
will just like that rug really tied the room together.

1597
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:19,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1598
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:22,639
Speaker 1: Just that's that's I mean about being similar to parent

1599
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:24,400
because like, why don't these people care about this ugly

1600
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,719
fucking rug in his house that like is not well

1601
01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:28,880
put together. But to them it's like, oh, the dude

1602
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,880
should be upset because everyone talks about how good this

1603
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:31,800
fucking rug is.

1604
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: So yeah it's true.

1605
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, once again I mentioned this earlier, but like,

1606
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,360
just I love bowling just being like the primary setting

1607
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,760
for a lot of the stuff here, because it just

1608
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,119
is one of those sports I don't really think about.

1609
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:44,679
But yeah, I'm sure like people are just as in

1610
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:47,159
the sports as any other sport, you know, and it's

1611
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:49,599
kind of just funny and it's kind of a good setting.

1612
01:07:49,639 --> 01:07:52,000
So I like that. I like that the resolution for

1613
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:54,159
the money that we find out that and it's never

1614
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:56,880
technically confirmed. We just kind of assumed this to be true,

1615
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880
that the big Lebowski took the money out of the

1616
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:04,559
fun for the kids and then just you know, said

1617
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:06,400
that they lost it in the ringer but actually just

1618
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,880
kind of use it for his own game. But we

1619
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,599
never find out if like that money got returned to

1620
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,920
that fund or mod or got any of it back.

1621
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,679
We just just kind of leave it unthreatened. I think

1622
01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:18,920
that's totally okay. I mentioned the Man in Me with

1623
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,800
Bob Dylan. I think that's used twice in the movie,

1624
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,600
which I think is a perfect song for this time

1625
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,159
and place to use the parlance of our time. And

1626
01:08:26,199 --> 01:08:28,640
then the one sequence we haven't talked about yet is

1627
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,640
one of the times when he gets knocked out and

1628
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,199
then we get like the the I think it's called

1629
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:35,720
like the gutter Ball Gutterballs sequence like that with the

1630
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,159
just walked In song, when he's like walking out in

1631
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,880
like his carpenter outfit and then he like.

1632
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 4: This whole dance his dance.

1633
01:08:47,119 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: Law it's like outfit, which is like one of the

1634
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,880
most iconic outfits, and then like you know, throwing him

1635
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,920
like down the alleyway and him just like having this

1636
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,840
really goofy look on his face as he looks up

1637
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,079
their skirts and all this. But also I just think

1638
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:01,079
a lot of the cinematography around that stuff is great,

1639
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:03,199
and like another I forget if it's I think it's

1640
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:04,920
earlier in the movie. Maybe actually it is that sequence

1641
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,720
because he gets knocked out and he's imagining all these things.

1642
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:10,920
That one shot that's like from the perspective of like

1643
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,600
inside a bowling ball, like rolling down the alley, it's

1644
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,880
like a camera looking out that hole kind of going down.

1645
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:18,079
So there's a lot of just great shots like that

1646
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,000
throughout this throughout this movie, and all the weird bowling

1647
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:24,359
niconography I think is just great for it. So yeah,

1648
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,319
that that sequence is super fun and that song is

1649
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,079
super weird and cool. I think it's Kenny Loggins does

1650
01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:30,840
that song, right, Yeah, it's a weird one.

1651
01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 2: I feel like the choreography too, of just all the

1652
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,520
moving pieces in that sequence, like I didn't really focus

1653
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,319
on until this viewing where I'm like, man, there's so

1654
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:40,399
much going on here of like all the dancers like

1655
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,920
doing the exact same like moves and everything, like it's

1656
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,399
really well made for just a trippy mind sequence. And

1657
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:50,560
then all like the outfits you already mentioned Julianne Moore's,

1658
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,079
but like the dancers in the background, they just have

1659
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:57,720
like pin like pins essentially like Fandois almost yeah, yeah,

1660
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,680
exactly sticking to the bowling team of course.

1661
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I think that's only notes for this bad boy.

1662
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,319
Speaker 2: Just having the I m d b up. I didn't realize,

1663
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:09,359
but Nihilist number two was played by Flee, which is

1664
01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:12,159
the basis from Red Hot Chili Peppers.

1665
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 4: Really I did not know stuff. Remember he was in

1666
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:18,439
fucking Obi Wan. He's the guy that's Canna Princess Leiah.

1667
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,159
Speaker 2: Remember I did not remember that he reviewed that? Yeah,

1668
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,319
yeah I did.

1669
01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:26,520
Speaker 1: He was in something else recently too, where he's like Flee,

1670
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,720
like you just just he's just okay, cool Flee.

1671
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,279
Speaker 3: Sure, he's the guy for his time and.

1672
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:36,399
Speaker 4: Place, yeah, any other notes for hit us with some trivia.

1673
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm noteless.

1674
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:42,399
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see wellby I'm sure you guys picked on this,

1675
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,159
but if in case he didn't, well, being a member

1676
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:46,560
of the bowling team, the dude has never seen bowling,

1677
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,520
which is great because I don't know what his.

1678
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: Skill is, mostly Donnie, who's always striking it except that

1679
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:52,640
last one.

1680
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Before filming a scene, jeff Bridges would frequently ask

1681
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,840
the Coen Brothers did he just did the dirt? Did

1682
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,439
the dude just burn one on the way over? If

1683
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,960
they said he had, he would rub his knuckles into

1684
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,439
his eyes before a take to make him a pure bloodshot.

1685
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,520
So I like that little just just keylot note, like, hey,

1686
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:10,600
what's going on here?

1687
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,319
Speaker 4: Right? Let's see here.

1688
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: A lot of the dudes close in the movie where

1689
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,760
Jeffrey's own clothes, including the jelly sandals, which he still

1690
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:24,800
owns and uses to this day, So they're kind of like, yeah, yeah, well,

1691
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,600
I don't know whether the exact ones or if they're

1692
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,439
just he's keeping that same you know, brand oring up.

1693
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: But they didn't specify here.

1694
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: So one time for Halloween, I was the dude and

1695
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:37,479
finding sandals like that was impossible because they're a special

1696
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:40,239
once in a lifetime peace.

1697
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,199
Speaker 4: That's fair.

1698
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude says man one hundred and forty seven times.

1699
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,039
Speaker 4: This movie nearly one and a half minute if you

1700
01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:54,039
put it all together. So the just man, let's see here.

1701
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: Okay, in twenty three this is just like a fun

1702
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,880
just just kind of different fact. In an interview, Joel

1703
01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:02,479
whole And told the story about having recently been to

1704
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,279
a movie theater in twenty thirteen San Francisco, where they

1705
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:08,960
saw a booth displaying Lebowski posters. Ethan asked a teenage

1706
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,600
girl what was going on, and then she proceeded to

1707
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,640
tell him but the theater's nightly screenings of the movie.

1708
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,760
She said that people come in dressed in costumes and

1709
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,079
you should come in and you'll like it.

1710
01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:18,079
Speaker 4: It's fun. She had no idea that two men had

1711
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:20,159
made the movie, so they're just in some random.

1712
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 1: Play San Francisco saw and like, yeah, we do this

1713
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:23,920
and you should come watch.

1714
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,359
Speaker 4: And that's fun. I hope it.

1715
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 5: If they went, I bet they didn't.

1716
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: Because like I don't put in the triviaet, but I

1717
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,520
read that they are like, we don't even really understand

1718
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,920
the finny for that much like they kind of like,

1719
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,640
we don't even think.

1720
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,319
Speaker 4: This is like one of our top tier movies, but

1721
01:12:36,359 --> 01:12:38,000
people love this thing. So it's funny that.

1722
01:12:38,039 --> 01:12:40,159
Speaker 1: So I bet they're like, ah no, but that's you

1723
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:42,800
never know what it's gonna hit, right. So John Tatura

1724
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,359
originally thought he was going to have a bigger role

1725
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:46,119
in the film. When he read the script, he realized

1726
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,239
apart was quite small. However, the Coen Brothers let him

1727
01:12:48,279 --> 01:12:49,479
come up with a lot of his own ideas of

1728
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,760
the character, like shining the ball and the scene where

1729
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,520
he dances.

1730
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:54,319
Speaker 4: Backwards, which was inspired by Muhammad Ali.

1731
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:57,279
Speaker 1: He says, So, which was funny because, like Dylan said,

1732
01:12:57,279 --> 01:12:59,600
a law of the script, there's only one thing the

1733
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,800
gym that there was improv everything else was when even

1734
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,560
down to the man's and dudes, those were all in

1735
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,079
those those weren't just a characters doing that.

1736
01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:08,159
Speaker 4: So that's interesting.

1737
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:10,279
Speaker 1: The rest of the script so tight, but with Jesus'

1738
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:12,359
character they kind of let them let them loose a

1739
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:15,680
little bit there. So the details Maud that he was

1740
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,079
a roady from Metallica. There's speed a sound to refer

1741
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:20,520
as the band as a bunch of assholes. Metallica was

1742
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,359
flattered by to be referred to a Coen Brothers movie.

1743
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,399
The guitarist Kurt Hammett once noted in an interview, they

1744
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,439
tried to make it and incorporate into one of their tours,

1745
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:29,800
but they.

1746
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 4: Just couldn't find a way.

1747
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,399
Speaker 1: But I wish they they should have been able to

1748
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,680
find way, like they play it before a song or something.

1749
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 3: Reference. Though I feel like it's not like a big

1750
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,600
moment in the movies.

1751
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's it's like it's I think it's cool,

1752
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,239
Like they're calling your band down and calling you a

1753
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:44,039
bunch of assholes.

1754
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 4: Like I think there's something fun you could have done there.

1755
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:46,840
But I get it.

1756
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,359
Speaker 1: Fuck the Eagles, you know, yeah, which is a good

1757
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:52,439
like call, Like it's great that they play Hotel Call

1758
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,760
California earlier and then you have the dude, you know

1759
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,079
saying funck the Eatles right, like.

1760
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,520
Speaker 3: A different Hotel California.

1761
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1762
01:13:58,079 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1763
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,520
Speaker 1: When they started writing the script, that Cohens wrote only

1764
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,199
forty pages and then let's sit for a while before finishing.

1765
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,600
This is a normal writing process for them because they

1766
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,159
often counter promin a certain stage and then they passed

1767
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:10,479
it into their project and then we come back to

1768
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,039
the first script. This way, they've had accumulated multiple several

1769
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:16,159
future movies, which I felt better reading.

1770
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 4: Because I many times we'll do that.

1771
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: I got a script right now, I'm living the last scene,

1772
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,279
last five pages, but I just don't want to write it.

1773
01:14:21,319 --> 01:14:22,800
I just don't feel like I've had the juice yet.

1774
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,880
I'm waiting for that juice to come. So I read that,

1775
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,880
I'm like, Okay, I like that.

1776
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: These coms are like, you know, how much forty pages

1777
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,079
of a script for these guys do you reckon?

1778
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: What do you mean? What do you mean by that?

1779
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:35,039
Speaker 3: Because you said like they would write forty pages of

1780
01:14:35,039 --> 01:14:36,840
a script and then leave it, Like, how much of

1781
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,680
a movie.

1782
01:14:37,399 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: Is that forty minutes?

1783
01:14:39,079 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: Usually, unless you're writing just one minute, that's what the

1784
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,319
rule is, unless you're writing movies that are big action movies,

1785
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:47,199
because that's tough, like the set piece when you writing

1786
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:49,880
the action, that could go longer. But rule thumb is

1787
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,359
kind of a minute per page, you know, obviously not

1788
01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:55,800
counting a title page, you know, title car that type

1789
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,840
of stuff. But they're written stuff, so and and because

1790
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,600
they're mostly dialogue, that would that would make sense here.

1791
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,760
So Julian Morris sent an interview. Great actress said that

1792
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,560
she was pregnant during the filming, but didn't tell anyone.

1793
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:08,279
Speaker 4: Because she really wanted to do the harness scene herself.

1794
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:08,840
So there you go.

1795
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 3: I wonder how they used that plates.

1796
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that technique.

1797
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're, of course everyone's interested going on

1798
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:19,520
to be I just care a cherry selected because there

1799
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,640
was like over like three fifty trivia, Like there's tons

1800
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,159
of stuff.

1801
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 4: The back half here, the ending here is just about

1802
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,920
some of the casting. The screenplay was written for John Goodman.

1803
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,359
Speaker 1: Steve Bushimmy and with and Sam Elliott in mind, So

1804
01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:32,640
there you go. Julian Moore was sent the script while

1805
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,920
she was working on Dress Part two. She worked only

1806
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,720
two weeks on the film early and late during production

1807
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:40,399
that went from January to April nineteen ninety seven. Well,

1808
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,640
Sam Elliott was only on set for two days, so

1809
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,359
it's kind of funny that like Julian Moore comes here

1810
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:47,399
in January and then all the way back until April

1811
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:49,199
and then she's back. So the books ended were Samuel

1812
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:50,880
It's you know, comes on there for a couple of

1813
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,920
even two days, but he's there. Jeff Bridges claims the

1814
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,640
dude was pretty much who he had been in the

1815
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:00,880
nineteen seventies, but unlike the character. Like the character of Walter,

1816
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,800
the coms did not have anyone in particular mind for

1817
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,119
the dude while they're writing the script. Once Bridge's name

1818
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:08,479
came up, the casting seemed unavoidable. The actor often takes

1819
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,600
a lot of time before committing to project. They said,

1820
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,199
he danced around a lot, primarily because they're way oh,

1821
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:16,720
and they went on to go do different movies because

1822
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,640
they wanted him to say yes, And I guess.

1823
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: He just really wouldn't commit for a while.

1824
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: And then even then, Jeff Bridges initially had reservations about

1825
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,039
the dude because he thought would be a bad example

1826
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:27,960
for his daughters. He accept the role after his middle

1827
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,600
daughter said, we know it is acting, so there you go.

1828
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,079
But yeah, almost this great casting. It's kind of funny

1829
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:35,439
that they write the script they have no idea. They

1830
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,880
have all these other characters, the kast them all this guy,

1831
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,439
they have no idea.

1832
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 4: It comes up like, oh, we gotta get him.

1833
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, eh, I don't really know if I

1834
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,439
want to do this because it's bad. It just like

1835
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,279
he just wasn't sure, so it's kind of funny. That's

1836
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:48,119
like all time casting was humming hung So you know

1837
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:50,560
whoever his middle daughter is big shout out to that

1838
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,159
Bridge's daughter because if she didn't say that, maybe he

1839
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:54,960
doesn't do it. I don't know, but uh yeah, So

1840
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,880
that's the tria for the Big Lebowski. Tayfield, Well you're.

1841
01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 5: Freaeding.

1842
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I looking at this movie. I don't know

1843
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,159
what bad things there are coming out of this. It's

1844
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:14,039
just it's a good time and there's there's so much

1845
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:17,600
humor in here, and it's you guys had highlighted it

1846
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,039
before when the three of them are just having their

1847
01:17:20,079 --> 01:17:22,920
dialogue like you mentioned Dylan, and like the Bowling Alley

1848
01:17:23,039 --> 01:17:25,439
or just other scenes too, and it's just it's so

1849
01:17:26,199 --> 01:17:30,960
natural and flowing and cohesive that it's just it sucks

1850
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,960
you in and it doesn't feel like acting. It feels

1851
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,359
like it's just a group of guys hanging out and

1852
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:37,640
they just through some movie cameras and just start filming

1853
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,880
these people just doing their own thing, and I like that.

1854
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,239
It just it feels seamless and I can really appreciate that.

1855
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,319
I'm gonna give it a ten out of ten because,

1856
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:45,840
like I said, I had a lot of fun with this.

1857
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:49,239
It was it was really really good and uh, yeah,

1858
01:17:49,279 --> 01:17:53,159
it's just it's it hit that note that I don't

1859
01:17:53,159 --> 01:17:53,800
think a lot of.

1860
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 5: Modern day movies really have.

1861
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 6: It's got it's got character, and it's got a fun

1862
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,279
story and I love the rat. But it's not it's

1863
01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:06,239
not just so random and ill explained where you just

1864
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,199
do you want a little more, sure, you want more,

1865
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:10,680
but there's nothing wrong with that, and.

1866
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Speaker 5: It's not leaving you.

1867
01:18:14,319 --> 01:18:17,319
Speaker 6: It's not leaving you with just this like ah, like

1868
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:19,319
I don't understand or I'm having a hard time trying

1869
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:22,079
to like connect these dots or whatever. It just it

1870
01:18:22,119 --> 01:18:24,920
introduces you to this dynamic and this problem and it

1871
01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:28,680
just goes sideways as they get to this this conclusion. Hey,

1872
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,760
it's just it's an adventure and it's it's it's awesome,

1873
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,479
it's it's chill and it's a good time.

1874
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,520
Speaker 2: Kill your pats are Yeah, I mean this is uh,

1875
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,880
this is a flawless feature film. I think I think

1876
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,680
I'm gonna give it ten pins out of ten. It

1877
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,199
is just phenomenal. Yeah, and like one, I'm excited to

1878
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:53,680
rewatch again because I definitely feel that the more I

1879
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,720
rewatch it the more I enjoy it. And I mean

1880
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,920
they only already brought up like many just details that

1881
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,680
I didn't notice, and I've seen in this like five

1882
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,319
or six times, so I'm yeah excited to look out

1883
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:06,279
for those and look out for that car in the backdrops.

1884
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,479
You know, they're on the roads a lot in this film.

1885
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,800
But no, it's it's just great and like really timeless.

1886
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,359
Like what's the date on It's like nineteen ninety eight,

1887
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,199
nineteen ninety seven and something like that, and like, you know,

1888
01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:19,640
technology of their time, but like it's it's like nothing

1889
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,800
about it really feels dated beyond like I just feel

1890
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,119
like it's a period piece in the nineties, you know,

1891
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:27,560
like like that's what it is. It doesn't feel like,

1892
01:19:28,119 --> 01:19:30,399
oh yeah, it's it's tough to watch now with some

1893
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,680
of the lines, Like it doesn't seem like like the

1894
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,039
jokes that they make are like really offensive or anything.

1895
01:19:36,119 --> 01:19:36,199
Speaker 3: Like.

1896
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:39,159
Speaker 2: It's just it's really fitting and just great performances across

1897
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:42,319
the board. Julian More, you know, stand out. She's definitely

1898
01:19:42,319 --> 01:19:44,520
making me think she might be a better actress than I.

1899
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,279
I won't give you a list, Yeah, give me a list.

1900
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:49,880
She got an Oscar right for this film, That's what

1901
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:50,479
it would have been.

1902
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: No, this was not I had to check nominated for

1903
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,800
zero oscars, which is kind of crazy.

1904
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:55,039
Speaker 5: Crazy.

1905
01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: Golm brothers were a big time Oscar directors, like fire

1906
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,560
Gunn nominated obviously they won for No Country.

1907
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 4: Pretty sure burn after reading got them.

1908
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: I think a simple Man got them something like they

1909
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,239
were slinging it for a while and now, like I

1910
01:20:08,279 --> 01:20:11,680
do movies, just Ethan insteracting, I think Joel's right now.

1911
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,640
I don't permanently retire, but I think he's kind of

1912
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:14,760
out right now.

1913
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was watching like an interview with them,

1914
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,119
and it's funny they were talking about Fargo and like

1915
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:22,760
winning for Fargo, and I don't know which one is which,

1916
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,640
but one of them was like, oh, yeah, you know,

1917
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,119
it was a solid movie, but like there was just

1918
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,199
no competition that year. They're like, nothing came out that year.

1919
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:30,039
Hollywood took a break that year for some reason. So

1920
01:20:30,079 --> 01:20:31,119
it was kind of like a were just kind of

1921
01:20:31,119 --> 01:20:33,239
an easy one that one. Like, so he was very

1922
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:35,439
like humble even in that that one. But yeh, I

1923
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,600
wouldn't really expect this to be an Oscar movie, I guess,

1924
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,439
But I didn't even know what came out in the

1925
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,800
year against it, Like, I don't know what I would

1926
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:43,800
It's hard to compare because, as you mentioned, Travis, like

1927
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,319
it's a great performance by Jeff Bridges, but obviously it

1928
01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:48,399
doesn't have like those qualities that you would normally expect

1929
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,520
are on like a rubric for a you know, Oscar's

1930
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,680
judge to you know, check off when they're watching their movies.

1931
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,520
Speaker 4: Right, it should be though that it's just one of those.

1932
01:20:57,359 --> 01:20:59,159
Speaker 3: Movies where it's just not how it works, right.

1933
01:20:59,399 --> 01:21:01,199
Speaker 1: I think it is one of those movies though that

1934
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,279
in retrospect, when you look back on it, you go, oh, man,

1935
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,279
like we like that was a mistake, this didn't happen.

1936
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:11,279
There's tons of those movies that even current dayly you're like, okay,

1937
01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:13,479
when this is ten years from now, you're gonna look

1938
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,520
at these movies be like, you know what, this crop

1939
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,680
was not the greatest and like yeah, even then, like hey,

1940
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:25,039
it's well, yeah, oh god, this is fucking Shakespeare in Love.

1941
01:21:25,079 --> 01:21:26,199
Speaker 4: This is that all over again.

1942
01:21:26,279 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 1: It came out so the best picture was Saving Prett

1943
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,680
Ryan thin Let Red Line A Life is Beautiful, Life

1944
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,239
is beautiful, Sorry Elizabeth and Shakespeare in Love.

1945
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 4: I could see someone making the case for save Brent Ryan.

1946
01:21:38,279 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: But I put uh big Lebouski over the rest of us,

1947
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,399
and who won Best Actor was Robert Biginian.

1948
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:50,399
Speaker 4: Life is beautiful. Yeah no, I uh.

1949
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: I disagree, but you know what, I don't disagree with

1950
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,880
these men up top. We'll give you ten because yeah

1951
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,159
it's a ten and ten easy, like it's a fantastic

1952
01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:01,199
I hope at some point are GV Golden Geeks at

1953
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:03,279
nineteen ninety eight does get voted in and we can

1954
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:06,760
rectify certain inequities that happened that year.

1955
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,119
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, I.

1956
01:22:09,319 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: Can't say enough good things about these movies. This is

1957
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,239
a movie that because I haven't been doing it in

1958
01:22:13,239 --> 01:22:15,039
a while, because I've been editing GV day stuff, and

1959
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:16,960
I've been writing a little bit less because the day

1960
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,159
has been long, and you know, death stranding don Con

1961
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:21,720
is like, man, I can't get I can't wait to

1962
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,840
get back into like writing, editing, filming. Like this is

1963
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,439
one of these movies where it's like it doesn't inspiring

1964
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,760
in the way, like no one was like look at

1965
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,279
it in her Stell and look at this thing. It's

1966
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:32,079
like it's a different sense where it's like, Okay, I

1967
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:34,760
want to be having that vibe, creating those moments, and.

1968
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 3: I want to have one hundred and seventy mans in

1969
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:37,800
your script, you know.

1970
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,079
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yeah, so ten or ten?

1971
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one thing I failed to mention that,

1972
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,560
like my opening thoughts is like, weirdly, even though I

1973
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,199
love this movie so much, I've barely dipped my toes

1974
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,520
in the Coen Brothers filmography at this point, Like, which

1975
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,760
is so weird. Because I love this movie so much,

1976
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,800
I should obviously like the actors crossover and obviously the

1977
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,439
writer director combo. So that's still an ex anything that

1978
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,000
I have so many movies of theirs that I haven't

1979
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,960
seen yet. I think I've only seen Hudsucker Proxy, you know,

1980
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:07,960
watching that for the ninety four prep and then Burn

1981
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,359
after reading, which I talked about on newscast like about

1982
01:23:11,359 --> 01:23:14,199
a year ago or something, and then you know Driveway Dolls,

1983
01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:17,159
which is by whichever one is still directing. So I

1984
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:19,479
haven't even seen No Country, which is insane. So I

1985
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,199
still have a ton of their big movies that I

1986
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:23,039
should go check out, which is an exciting thing. But

1987
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,319
I mean, obviously I'm dropping a ten for this so

1988
01:23:25,359 --> 01:23:28,039
it gets a perfect forty, which is you know, you

1989
01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:30,680
love to see it. This is a really fun time.

1990
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,000
I'm glad we finally did this episode and hopefully, you know,

1991
01:23:34,279 --> 01:23:37,399
like some big Lebowski quotes and gifts can make it

1992
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,560
into our you know, into our sideboard. Here all these

1993
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,760
all these gifts, when quotes were always dropping podcasts, I

1994
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,159
feel like there's a lot of good ones in here

1995
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:47,039
that could join the pack.

1996
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 5: I got one right here, we can.

1997
01:23:53,960 --> 01:24:02,279
Speaker 1: I agree very loud, you know, But all there you go, Lasia,

1998
01:24:02,319 --> 01:24:02,880
and we've done it.

1999
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: We've done Devil's Pig.

2000
01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: So let us know Discord, YouTube, Patreon, Facebook, wherever that's on.

2001
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,039
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on this one, if you like it, love it,

2002
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:13,039
anything we missed any fron trivia, and yeah, the next

2003
01:24:13,079 --> 01:24:14,000
episode will be back.

2004
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:16,399
Speaker 1: Is the final pick of the GB ten Yere Kirklands

2005
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,600
David Fincher's the game, so until then it won't be

2006
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one

