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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters, Remco rinking

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across the table from me and baby, oh Baby, what

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a day. Night two was at the w SP main

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event for the final table from seven down to two.

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Somehow we got down to heads up play. Wild scenes

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here we're gonna talk all about it. We talked to

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plenty of players along the way. We got a little

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bit of some live audio between Remco and I from

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the floor in the midst.

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Speaker 2: Of it all.

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Speaker 1: But it is Lucas Jumalan, the twenty two year old

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out of Spokane, Washington, Washington, excuse me, maintaining his chip

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lead from start of this final table until heads up play.

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He's going with Lori Saskat out of Finland. The I

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think he's like a sales marketing manager or something, not

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a professional poker player by trade. Calls himself a hobbyist,

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a semi pro whatever it is. Of course, maybe that

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changes now, but he is the player that could be

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the kryptonite to Lucas Jumalan, who has seemed like he

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could really do no wrong. But Soscolotti is not going

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to back down. I mean, what do you got to

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say about today?

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Speaker 3: Today was the counter opposite from what we saw on

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the first day of the Final Table. The first day

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was was drawn out one hundred and eight hands, much

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to the liking of Sam Greenwood. I don't think Sam

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Greenwood approves of today's play. Well, he doesn't like excitement.

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Doesn't like excitement. All everything needs to be mechanical. And

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of course Sam, if you listen, I joke.

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Speaker 4: I joke. But Sam's catching a lot of shade on

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the spot it was.

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Speaker 3: It was funny to see the contrast on social media yesterday,

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where you know, some were saying how boring it wasn't

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some were saying how interesting it was, and the word

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exciting wasn't really used, even though the broadcast of product,

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everything surrounding it, Nick and Ali was just you know,

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top notch, A plus. All that stuff was great. But

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when the entertainment value arrives due to some high profile

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all ins, some crazy runouts, some Greg Mueller high fiving

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Scotty tickets with the shirt off on the rail, that's

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when you have a real main event Final Table on

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your hands. What I saw today was exactly what I

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want to see when I watch poker. On TV. This

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is the kind of stuff where I can tell my

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father in law, who has a loose sort of loosely

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is loosely interested in poker. I can tell him, turn

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on the TV, you're gonna want to watch this. And

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that's exactly what I did. So with that in mind, Donnie,

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I think that you said it right when it happened.

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I think it was only a few hands into play

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today when when Mueller doubled up and the whole atmosphere

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seemed to change, and the whole sort of vibe in

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the room seemed to sort of loosen up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doubled up with King Jack versus Ace king.

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He had the King jack. He drilled the jack on

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the flob. It did come jack ten eight, So he

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did have to fade an ace or a queen. This

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was against Laurie Sascolotti. Greg did come into the day

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as the short stack ends up doubling up here. You

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could see it in his face at multiple points throughout

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this runout. First when the jack comes, he's like, oh

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my gosh, it happened, like it the miracle just happened, right,

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So you got that? Then, like he's got us obviously

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sweat the last two cards, and you could just tell

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it was like, oh my god, I haven't felt like

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Greg has felt that this is the biggest moment of

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his poker career until this moment going to the turn

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where he hit the jack, he took the lead, and

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then it was like, oh shit, I got a hold

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on for two more cards and if I do it

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could mean multiple mill more millions of dollars, and heck,

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maybe I go on to win this thing after. I mean,

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you talked with him yesterday and we heard from him

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how he was. He was, in a way kind of

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beating himself up a little bit over that that King jackhand.

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Coincidentally enough, King Jack resurrecting its head once again in

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this spot. But he was He's like, you know, I

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played that hand really bad. Comes into today, he's only

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got what nine big blinds are ten big blinds, and

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he's maybe he's just kind of reserved to his fate

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where he's like, Okay, you know what, it was a

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good run, laddered a couple spots, didn't play my best

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in that one spot, and maybe it costs me. But

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now it's like, oh crap, I'm way back in this

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damn thing and this this is the hand that this

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final table needed. If you are rooting for electricity, if

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you're rooting for entertainment, all that sort of stuff, the fireworks,

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et cetera. Yesterday was I would describe it as interesting.

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Interesting is not exciting to most people. It's exciting to

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me maybe, sure, but it's also can be portrayed as boring,

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a grind, you know, a slog at times. But today

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was the stone opposite. As you said, this hand kicked

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things off early and then from there it was almost

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like banker after banger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And important to note there too that Muller doubled through Saskalathi,

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so that hand really flipped things around. Muller up to

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fifty nine million, Suscalathi down to fifty three million. And

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the reason I want to point it out is because

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there was a distinct difference in the approaches the players had,

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especially those two, because Suscolathi came into play trying to

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win the tournament. It felt like, oh, he was looking

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for spots, he was being aggressive, he was being involved

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in lots of hands, and Mueller was being patient.

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Speaker 4: He was sort of soaking in the moment.

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Speaker 3: He was enjoying this experience with this rail, But never

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did I get the feeling that Mueller was giving himself

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a chance to win. Suscalothie could a busted in eighth place,

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seventh place, sixth place, but Mueller was sort of like,

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I don't know, it's kind of weird to say he

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wasn't trying to money ladder, because I know that he wasn't,

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but he was also just trying to be patient and

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trying to sort of let the game come to him

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and Susclotik was coming to the game. Next big moment

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that we saw at the final table then was Jumalan

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just doing Jumalan things versus Jamie Shavell in hand number

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one twenty one, where kind of in a weird way, Donnie,

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And I think I saw a few tweets about this,

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people saying like, this is maybe the only mistake that

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Jamie Shavell made at the final table makes it ten

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million pre with four and a half behind, Jumalan made

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the call and that's when Shavel moved on for only

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four and a half million. Into a little bit over

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twenty Shavel had king six of hearts on seven four

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to three. Jumbelan called the King ten High obviously priced in,

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and the King ten High simply held up. So that was,

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you know, unfortunate for shavel to go out that way, definitely,

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you know, brought a tough game to the table cash

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one point five million, and yeah, then we were down

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down a six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tough spot for Chevelle here. I mean, it's hard

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to say when you're when you're that short. You know,

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you look down, you see the King six of hearts,

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You're probably like, okay, this is it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: If he just moves all in fully and doesn't leave

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some chips behind, how does this one play out? I'm

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gonna guess the same. You know, I think King ten

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with that chip lead for Jumalan in the big line.

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Given how short Chevelle is, then you know, I think

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he's still ultimately out of the tournament. Now, maybe you

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want to say, okay, he could fold it and maybe

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waited for a better spot, or maybe somebody else collides

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and you go from there. But when you're that short,

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I can't necessarily blame him for how this one played

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out and ultimately didn't hit. But his eighth cash in

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the WSIP main event one point five million dollars so

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a very very good run for him. And then from there,

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I mean it was just again more Jumalan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah's what it was. He It was.

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Speaker 1: Just you kind of look, we have the chip count

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screen in front of us from where we're sitting in

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the media row, and like every time you looked up,

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every five minutes or ten minutes, he had like ten

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or fifteen more, just kept just kept going, climbing, climbing, climbing.

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Next thing, you know, it's like, crap, he's got two

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hundred and seventy five million. Oh look he's got two

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hundred and eighty five million, two ninety Like he's almost

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got three hundred million. Like it's just wild stuff. But

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then then we got Mueller doubling again. Yeah, you know,

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this was another crazy moment. This time it was through

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Rami Hamoud, Canada and Canada War crimes. Here nine's for Mueller,

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Ace King for Rami Hamoud. Mueller fades the runout another

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spot where it was like he's he's just sweating the

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whole way and like his rail was the biggest by

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far here and you could feel it that they felt it,

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just like he felt everyone was so invested NonStop channing.

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He ultimately ends up winning this hand. He's doing fist

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pumps out there, going into his rail high five's hugs,

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the whole thing. It was just crazy stuff. Now Hamod

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wasn't out but left pretty short after this one.

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Speaker 3: E Mueller also up to eighty two million after this hand,

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which in hindsight is kind of wild to think that

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he got up that high that sort of early into

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today's play. At that point, Sascalothi was only on forty

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nine million. Gagliano, who basically was not involved in the

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play at all today, was more like a spectator and

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we'll we'll hear from him in a minute. But that

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was definitely interesting to see. And Mueller going up to

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eighty five eighty two million might make you think like, oh,

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now he has a chance to perhaps get some control,

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but nothing like that ever really evolved. And it's even

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funnier when you think that shortly after he got up

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to eighty two million, there was the big all in

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with Suscalathi doubled with Kings versus Ace Jack versus Han Feng,

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and all of a sudden, Mueller is second in chips

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because the person ahead of him lost a chunk, being

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Han Feng. And all of a sudden, you think, are

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we going towards a Mueller Jumlan heads up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like that at some point, you know,

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And it was it was more like in a way

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process of elimination that he ended up making it up

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to second place. Not that people were eliminated, but people

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just kept getting kind of knocked down, and all of

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a sudden you look at the board and it's like, oh,

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Mueller's in second. But that's also like this today was

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just kind of wacky in that you had Jumalan once again,

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so far and away a chip leader right, and then

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everyone else like one big pot or one double up

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and like they're in second or third right behind him

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because everyone was so bunched together even though people were

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super super short, like Greg when he doubled the first time,

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he doubled like all the way up the leaderboard to

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like third place, it was like out of nowhere, but

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he only had like twenty bigs if he was still

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in third place. It was just it was an absolutely

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wild dynamic at the table, and I mean, I don't

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think you could have scripted it better coming off of

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what we saw on the first day. You know, if

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you were like, like if you got everyone in the

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room and you're like, hey, guys, we got to write

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a more electric day, like this is what you would

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come out with.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome, absolutely awesome, and through it all you

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got to give credit to Jumalan because he never lost

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that top spot the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he continued by taking Ramihamu's final chips, who was

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all in with He was all in with so many outs,

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probably too many queen check with the jack of spades

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on eight six deuce with three spades, so he had

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overcards flush straw against Jumalan's ace five high no flush straws,

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so ACE five held up in true Jumalan fashion because

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when it's your tournament, it's your tournament, and you know

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it continued to be his tournament. But yeah, Jumalan at

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that point, and this is kind of wild to look at.

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Right after he busted Hamud, he had a massive, massive

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pot against Han Feng where he flopped the full house

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seventh full of aces and the hand resulted in him

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taking fifty million ish off of Han Feng, and he

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had three hundred and seventy six million chips with Mueller

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being next closest at sixty sixty six million, And I

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think you said it that at that point he goes

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he has more than half to chips in play.

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Speaker 1: And well over, hell over, there's like five hundred fifty

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million in play. Yeah, three hundred and seventy six million.

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Speaker 3: So at that point of the tournament, it was basically

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like who's going to finish second, who's going to even

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have a little bit of resistance versus Jumalon, And that

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question was answered almost immediately in the most dramatic of fashion,

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when Han Feng ended up all in forced term in

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life with pocket ass versus Sascolatti with nad wild and

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this hand was the most electric hand of the day.

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Flopp comes out ten eight three, all diamonds. Han Feng

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has the acid diamonds for even more protection than a

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jack of hearts on the turn, giving Susclothi and opening

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a straight draw, but still cannot hit a diamond, and

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the river is a black queen, and Antonio Abrego got

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like the shot of the day where you see Han

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Feng crumple up in a in a ball of misery

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as Susclati jumps into the screen and celebrates like we've

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never seen before and prior to that, Donnie, I don't

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recall seeing any emotion from Sascalath, and it was almost

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like he unlocked something new inside of him.

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Speaker 4: That he was not yet aware of.

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Speaker 1: And also Greg Mueller in this hand folding Jacks, Oh right, yeah,

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you're right, like this hand was. This hand was wild

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because you had Fang who had just lost the big

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pot to Lucas Jumalan and he's he's now sitting on

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like I think it's eight and a half big blinds.

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Maybe a little bit less maybe seven and a half

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after after that hand, but either way, super short sub

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ten for sure. He min raises under the gun, which

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should in a lot of ways set off a lot

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of alarm bells because you don't have many min raised.

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I don't think you have really any min rais folds there,

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so your min raises come from predominantly aces and then

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maybe some kings, but kings I think does have a

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little bit of blending between shoving and min raising. You

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you might even see some limps in this spot with

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the stack size like Fang had. But first of all,

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the min rays under the gun from Fang should should

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raise some alarm bells for the players. Then you have

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Sascelotti going fifty just this fifty million, he says, he said,

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let's gam fifty million. Let's gam, and Mueller listen credit

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to him kind of immediately. You could tell by watching

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his mannerisms that he felt that something was up with

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two jacks, which is, I don't know, I feel like

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I would go broke here for sure. Yes, it does

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suck in a way that you have Fang who looks

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like he's got a really nutted range here from under

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the gun. But if you beat Sascolotti for the side,

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it kind of doesn't matter, right, So it's a super

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tricky spot. Mueller tanked and tanked and tanked. At one

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point he tried to talk to Sasclotti. Couldn't because that's

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not allowed, especially with three players in the hands.

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Speaker 3: But I said something when this hand was in progress.

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I said, like, it looks as though Muller is almost

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more worried about Han Feng than he is about Sasclati.

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And Han Feng was sitting there like a statue, while

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Sasclati seemed really relaxed and you know, resigned in his

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fate because he was already all in. So it didn't

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really matter to him anymore what was going to happen.

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His chips were in the middle, Go figure it out, guys.

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That was sort of the attitude that I was seeing

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from him. And then ultimately Mueller folds and erupts in

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celebration as Han Feng literally triple fist, pump calls and

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slams the aces on the table, only to then that

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leading to his elimination.

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Speaker 1: I would have cried, honestly, having the acid diamonds in

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my hand on a three diamond flop like that, I

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would have just burst out into tears. I mean, I mean,

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what the hell are you gonna do? I mean, that's

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just it's a sick way to go. I will say that,

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you know, getting that far fifth place for two point

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twenty five million, when you came in eight out of nine,

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not too far ahead of nine, you had to battle

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as a short stack for much of the day. It

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probably definitely seemed feels like a win. But given that

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he did finish the first night of the final table

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second in chips with more than one hundred million, thinking like, okay,

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I'm the guy in line to get heads up with

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Lucas Jumalan, and then you go out in a sick

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one like this, I mean, and then there's also the

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sliding doors moment where on the hand where he had

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tens and Jumalan had the sevens, Mueller opens the button

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for a min raise. If Fang just moves all in, yeah,

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probably just wins the hand right there, right, it's crazy.

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Now there's the other kind of sliding doors where because

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he flattered from the small blind, there's a real argument

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that Jumelan could have just said I'm all in, and

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then if he's all in, obviously Greg gets out of

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the way, but Fang calls and he's out of the tournament.

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Like so it's just like so crazy how it all.

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You know, one move here, one move there can just

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change how it all kind of shapes out. So it's

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just it really is just just wild stuff here on

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this this second night of the final table. I mean,

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I can't understate that specific element.

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Speaker 3: Of it all. I think it really highlights how this

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game is so beautiful because there are thousands of scenarios

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possible and we only get to watch one of those

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scenarios play, which is the scenario that ends up happening.

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But there were so many hands today where small differences

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or you know, perhaps a slightly different approach could have

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changed everything. And this is just how the thing unfolded.

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And Han Feang's on the rail and Sascolothi is all

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of a sudden up to two hundred million ish and

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then he said.

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on one second, because he got he was

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up to about ninety.

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Speaker 2: Million hand right, and then and then he doubles through and.

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Speaker 1: Michael Gagliano after that hand had eight and a half

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nine big lines, so now he's the super short guy.

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But then Sascolotti just decides to get all in against

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Lucas Jumelot, just like insane, like that's where it's just wild.

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So he gets all in with Lucas Jumlan. This is

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just the nature of Sascolotti. You saw it a lot

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on the first day of the final table. He was

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kno going to back down to anyone. I mean, at

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one point I thought he was going to call all

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in with that king Queen suited against Lucas Jumalan. Now

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they had the same hand and they probably would have

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chopped unless somebody made a four foot or a flush,

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but you know whatever. But here on the nine to

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four duce flop, he gets it all in with Jumalan.

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Jumalan's got four to three or sorry, they got it

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all on the turn nine four duce five. So Jumalan's

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got a pair of fours, so he can hit a four.

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He can hit a three four to make trips three

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to hit two pair. He can also hit an ace

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to make a straight. He can hit six to make

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a straight. And Sascolotti's got two tens for just the overcard.

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Gotta fade plenty outs he does. That was the pot

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that got him up to almost one hundred and ninety million,

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and because it was through Jumalan pulls him back down

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to earth a little bit. And then it's like, oh

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my gosh, we have a game, and we also we

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have the have notts. We have the haves with Jumalan

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and Sasclatt and then we have the have knots over

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here with Muller and Gagliano and Gaglana is just like

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in a way he's playing John Raisner, like you guys

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just all kind of go crazy. I'm I'm over here

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just collecting my millions every time we get a ladder.

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Speaker 3: But also just imagine, because you know, Jumala had real outs,

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He had real outs to send Susclotta home if that,

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If that happens, he basically has four hundred and sixty

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million or four and fifty million, which is just like

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the end of the tournament.

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Speaker 4: It's just absolutely insane.

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Speaker 3: But yes, sessild It doubles up and all of a sudden,

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we got ourselves a match because then we finally have

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someone who can challenge Jumalan, which you know, for the

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sake of the broadcast and for the sake of the excitement,

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is definitely great to see. Juelan isn't easy to get

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to root for, but we also don't want to just

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hand him the trophy. This is definitely something that's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna have some resistance. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, Gagliano and and we'll listen to

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him in the second here. Really didn't get any hands,

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didn't get any spots, and he was the consummate professional

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when I spoke to him after his elimination.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was great. He lost me in a pretty

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brutal fashion as well. He had King Queen up against

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King Jack for Jumalan. Jumalan turns a jack after the

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flop came King high and we say goodbye to Gagliano.

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And as Remco said, he did catch up with Gags

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on his way out. And here's that conversation right now.

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Speaker 4: Michael, fourth place in the main.

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Speaker 3: As a long time book a professional, this experience lived

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up to what.

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Speaker 4: You might have thought it would be like after all

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those years of playing this tournament.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, it was more fun.

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Speaker 5: Like I was anticipating a lot more stress, and I

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mean I'd be lying if there was, you know, no stress,

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but just a lot of fun. It was a really

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good group of guys. There was not a lot of

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like negative emotion. There was a lot of emotion, a

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lot of you know, players really sweating the spots in

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the hands, but there were no there was no negative

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but there was no fighting, There was no arguing, There

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was not even remotely.

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Speaker 6: Anything like that.

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Speaker 5: Everyone was super supportive anytime there was a hand or

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a clash or anything like that. A great group of guys,

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and you couldn't have been happier to make this finel table.

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Speaker 2: With them on this final data that you got to play.

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Speaker 4: Is there any frustration or any.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about the way that things went, just because you've

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seen so handcoched. No.

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Speaker 6: I mean I told that people like I, I.

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Speaker 5: Really just did not have really a lot of spots

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to exercise any skills or strategy that I had hoped

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to do coming to the final table. But that happened

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to times. You know, I did my best to grind

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it out with the.

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Speaker 6: Short stack, and I think I did pretty well, especially.

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Speaker 5: Because I am not very confident in my supershours that game,

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but I think I did it right. Yeah, I mean,

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you know, a couple of hands go differently, and you

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know we could be having a different conversation, but uh, overall, fourth,

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what could use?

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Speaker 4: How's it too bad for result?

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Speaker 6: Coming in?

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Speaker 3: You know where I was massive massive score past wise,

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what is the meaning of that? Because we love to

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talk about the experience and the fun Reultimately there's a

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lot of money you've ey won here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've said before, like I almost felt more stressed

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near the money bubble of this tournament, even though I

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was not really in jeopardy of bubbling.

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Speaker 6: I just like felt like unsure of how.

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Speaker 5: To navigate some spots for some other big stacks and

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things like that. Once I got past, you know, I

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bagged almost a very short stack on day four, and

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once I got past that and just kind of was like,

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all right, I'm just gonna like do what I can

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to play.

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Speaker 6: I really had very little stress this the rest of

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this tournament and I just got to enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 5: And they were never in stressful spots with you know,

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two three tables left.

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Speaker 6: But again, it was a great group.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: We had a lot of fun at the feature on

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day eight with Deep and and I've had a Todd

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Brunson on on day seven. It's which we just were

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having fun, man, in the entire time and continue through.

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Speaker 4: This model table.

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Speaker 5: It was a little louder in here, a little less

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chat at the table, which you know was part of

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the fun.

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Speaker 4: But uh, that's the model tables.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a lot of stress.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think the long term impacts of

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this result will be on.

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Speaker 4: Your life, on your put career?

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Speaker 5: Oh geez, I don't know. I don't take too many

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live trips these days, but I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we'll get me for an extra one or two

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a year.

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00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: What We'll have to say?

475
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:39,279
Speaker 6: It was just a lot of fun.

476
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see how I feel what.

477
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: I feel like final question was the supporters here.

478
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: The gas wenty twenty sixth merch was was out in

479
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,680
full force.

480
00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 4: You had a few notables on your rail as well.

481
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,000
What'sn't been likely to share this with them?

482
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:53,079
Speaker 6: It's been unbelievable.

483
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 5: I got to shout out BETAMGM for the merch and

484
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,359
they did a great job with the hats and the

485
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,519
T shirts and everything else.

486
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 6: It was a lot of fun.

487
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,839
Speaker 5: I have so many friends come in that you know,

488
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,359
don't even necessarily.

489
00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:04,559
Speaker 6: Understand all the rules of poker.

490
00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: And I think they're fans now this was maybe not

491
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,440
necessarily they're expecting. But shout out to Greg Muller as

492
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,200
you can hear them saying, yeah, it was just unbelievable.

493
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:16,920
I just got my phone back for the first time

494
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,920
today and just seeing the pouring of messages from people

495
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,160
I haven't spoken.

496
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,279
Speaker 6: To in years and years and years is unbelievable.

497
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: There's no other word for it.

498
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: Thanks ChIL, thank you so much. Just trying to do enjoy.

499
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 4: Johnny was still rolling.

500
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,079
Speaker 3: Just spoke to Gags and while I'm watching Gags talk

501
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,960
to his friends of the media.

502
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: We lost Mueller in third place.

503
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: I think Muller could have gone out in any one

504
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:40,680
of the places at the final table ninethe eight seven six, fifth,

505
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,400
he ends up getting third. He brings the atmosphere. We

506
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,559
got the chance in the background. How do you look

507
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:46,799
back on Mueller's run.

508
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:53,079
Speaker 1: A roller coaster, wild, chaotic ride, and honestly, I would

509
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,119
expect nothing less from full blown till. I mean, that's

510
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,119
what it was from start to finish. It was up,

511
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,160
it was down, it was all over the place. We

512
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,519
talked about the dark check, that snap calling, he folded

513
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,640
jacks to aces on that crazy hand that ultimately eliminated

514
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,960
Han Fang Like. I mean, it was the full blown

515
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:15,599
tilt like theme park ride. That's what it was from

516
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,359
start to finish. And you know, it's kind of epic

517
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,720
that he that he went out, I guess going with

518
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,279
a livery like calling it off there with how he did.

519
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,279
But I mean, you got to handswer the guy. He's

520
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,880
got what almost four million in the bank. Well done, sir,

521
00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:29,400
epic run from Mueller.

522
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,599
Speaker 3: And as we are standing here, we're wrapping up for

523
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,880
the night, we're down to two players.

524
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: It's maybe Junelan versus Sasklati.

525
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: Looking at what unfold of today, Donnie, we are somehow set.

526
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,039
Speaker 4: Up for what could be an iconic heads up.

527
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: Match tomorrow or I should say Wednesday. This could go

528
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:53,119
eight hours, it could go eight minutes with how the

529
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,759
I mean these guys when they were one and two

530
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,160
and chips with with four players up, with five players up,

531
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,000
they were not backing down from one another. You and

532
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,720
I kept looking over at the mud there multiple times

533
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,680
saying like, oh, there's sixty million in the pot. Oh

534
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720
there's seventy million in the pot. Oh he's putting them

535
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,319
all in. Oh, here we go. So yeah, like, if

536
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,559
these guys just pick up, I'm not even gonna say

537
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:15,079
like two good hands, just kind of like marginal average hands.

538
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,759
They could just go for it. And now they do

539
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,039
have enough experience, enough knowledge of one another, where I

540
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,000
think Jumalan probably correctly looks at Sascal audience says like, listen,

541
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:27,799
this guy's gonna go for it. So I got to

542
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,759
be willing to click the call button or make a

543
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,359
big stand or whatever it is, and that could ultimately

544
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,599
lead the things getting over quickly. Now that said, there

545
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,079
is a four million dollar pay jump here, and these

546
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,799
guys are very deep seventy seventy five big lines effective,

547
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,119
So we could be here for a long, drown out match. Now,

548
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,720
that doesn't mean that they're not going to be throwing

549
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,039
haymakers back and forth, but it could just go back

550
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:50,960
and forth for a while.

551
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: It's really fascinating to see the evolution of Sascolati. I

552
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,640
feel like we really got to know Jumalan very well

553
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,559
in the base leading up to the final table and

554
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,519
I'm you know, the playdown days, Dumalan has had the

555
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,960
triplety for such a long time. He's almost sort of like,

556
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,759
you know, you can see the imprints on his chair.

557
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:09,519
Speaker 2: From just being the tripley for such a long time.

558
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, I noticed something, Because

559
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,880
when Saskalati went basically perfect, perfect to stay alive versus

560
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,240
Han Feng and busted or practice aces.

561
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: I should say, all of a sudden something changed.

562
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 4: The emotion that was on display. We had not seen

563
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,599
from him at all.

564
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,759
Speaker 3: He was the cool fin all throughout yesterday's play. He

565
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,519
was the cool thin all the way until that river

566
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:31,319
cart hit, and then all of a sudden something changed.

567
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: And we've seen much more emotion from him since.

568
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: And I feel as though he's playing and acting as

569
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,200
if he's on a free roll.

570
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, we even saw him

571
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,680
be really cool when he was on with the Kings

572
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:44,880
versus Han Fing's Ace Jack right, like he wasn't.

573
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people there, myself.

574
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: Included probably would be would be like, oh crap, here

575
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,640
comes the ace, like this is the massive spot.

576
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 4: Here we go.

577
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,279
Speaker 1: But he was just cool, just sat there in his chair.

578
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,480
He was even asking the other players at the table

579
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,799
about a previous handle, the borders running out of just

580
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:04,599
crazy stuff like Sascolotti feels like he's like he smells

581
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,440
blood in the water, like he's like okay, like like

582
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:09,640
let's go fucking grab the bull by the horns and

583
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,720
just take this thing down like I can actually do it.

584
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,640
And I also don't think he's gonna shy away from

585
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,000
playing his game, which I think is awesome. And if

586
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,720
you're Jumalan, I think.

587
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:22,279
Speaker 4: Worst case scenario opponent.

588
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.

589
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: Like if there was gonna be kryptonite to your Superman

590
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:32,119
at this final tables, it's one at Sascolatti and it's two.

591
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,119
It's Sascolotti with ammunition, and that's what he has. Yes,

592
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,799
you have the chip lead, but he's got plenty to

593
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:40,599
work with and he has shown that he does not

594
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,599
give a crap and he will not back down from you.

595
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: He's not gonna.

596
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: Stand for your bullshit. So it could be one hell

597
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960
of a match. I mean, we know Jumalan, he's twenty

598
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,799
two years old. He's got the bravado just just through

599
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,319
the roof. He loves it. He constantly says I'm built

600
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,759
for this, I'm ready for it. His playing style echoes that,

601
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,119
and now you've got him going up against the finished

602
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,640
guy who does not give a shit.

603
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: It's awesome. I cannot wait. It's gonna be an epic

604
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,519
heads up battle. But Donnie, one thing that's the wrinkle

605
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:08,680
that we only have to deal with because of TV

606
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,319
is that there's one hundred and eighty something big blinds

607
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,759
in play and tomorrow there's a certain window in which

608
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:20,640
this game gets shown to the entire American audience on ESPN,

609
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,519
And by looking at this, at this chip count, and

610
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,440
thinking back of iconic cats up matches we've had in

611
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,319
the past, there's no telling whether we'll hit the window.

612
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we've heard that after a certain amount

613
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:34,759
of time it might get preempted and kicked over to

614
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,880
ESPN two, which isn't the worst thing in the world.

615
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680
But of course you wanted on the main ESPN channel. Now,

616
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,480
I will also say that everything is probably subject to change,

617
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:48,559
so well, I guess we'll see how it goes. But yeah,

618
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,400
like if this thing does go a long time, it's

619
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
gonna kind of start being a question like, okay, like

620
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,279
what's gonna happen. You know, we've been around plenty for

621
00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:59,960
some of these long not just the heads up matches.

622
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,799
Speaker 2: But tables where you know, it's been all of a sudden,

623
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:03,640
it's six in the morning.

624
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: It's seven in the morning.

625
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: The hashtag is coming out.

626
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: When will end before?

627
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: The WSB will end before?

628
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: Or whatever? You know, like all that sort of stuff.

629
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,200
You know, we got Juwan the.

630
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Crowdsurfing, crowdsurfing right now, this is out of control.

631
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:17,799
Speaker 1: They better not hurt their guy. He's got one more day,

632
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,480
you know what this is.

633
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:21,519
Speaker 2: As long as he has one arm functional, he can

634
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:22,880
still win this tournament.

635
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,039
Speaker 3: But yeah, the atmosphere here inside the horseshoe is electric.

636
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: We are guessing some of the background noise here.

637
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,279
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Mueller, We're gonna try to talk.

638
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: To Jumalan and Susqualati. It's been an amazing day. The

639
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,920
contrast could not be any bigger with the first day

640
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,839
at the final table.

641
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: So you guys heard it there first Gagliano. Then I

642
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:57,880
happen to be standing right next to him, go so

643
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,839
he just threw the microphone in my face and we.

644
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,559
Speaker 4: Talked about it.

645
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: Well, the reason I did that was because there's so

646
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,880
much more life to the recording. Yeah, when you hear

647
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,880
all that noise and then like right now, we're sitting

648
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240
in a quiet room where everybody's riding their little recaps,

649
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920
and that moment was just so iconic.

650
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,799
Speaker 4: It was just insane.

651
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Well, the room had had become much more alive. It

652
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:23,279
was already alive throughout this entire day, but in that

653
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:27,400
moment with it was It was largely led by Greg

654
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,559
fbt Mueller and his rail knowing that they made it

655
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,799
to three handed play, and there might have even been

656
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,440
a little bit of thought too that okay, the day

657
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:39,119
is done right, because there is some thought that on

658
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,160
day two you try and get down to three handed,

659
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,200
then that's when you call it quits, and then you

660
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,799
move into the next day and then it's three handed play, right,

661
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,799
But that wasn't going to be the case. Here because

662
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,720
they were so there were there's so many blinds on

663
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,119
the table that they couldn't do that if they wanted

664
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,839
the final day on Wednesday to be somewhat manageable. So

665
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,279
maybe maybe Greg and his his rail said oh, we're

666
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,119
onto the next day. So like they got a bit

667
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,160
rowdy and they started chanting and all that sort of stuff,

668
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
and little did everyone know that it was like, no, no,

669
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,960
we got to go back in there. We got to

670
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,359
get back in that arena and keep on playing. But

671
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,200
it was it was some wild, wild times out there overall,

672
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000
and it was it was fun. I mean, Greg in

673
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,400
that moment he had to feel super happy, and I

674
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640
know we'll hear from him in a bit. But just

675
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,319
because you come into the day with sub ten bigs, right,

676
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:33,119
and you screwed up that one big hand that might

677
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,519
have been the hand that cost you the tournament or

678
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,599
a top three finish or whatever. But then some fortunate

679
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:43,200
situations happen on Tuesday and you are in the final three.

680
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,200
Now you're far off of the other two players, yes,

681
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,119
but at least you're in the fight, right, at least

682
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:50,440
you're there and you're in it. So that must have

683
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,039
in and of itself really felt like a win formuler.

684
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:57,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know, he busted the very next hand

685
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,960
after Gagliano busted in a hand that I thought he

686
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:05,519
might be more regretful about. But as you'll be able

687
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,799
to hear on the interview, no regrets totally, you know,

688
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,279
at peace with what happened. And he even referred to

689
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,480
the fact that he felt tense and he felt the

690
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,200
pressure of one hundred people flying in from Canada and

691
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:19,720
wanted to give them a bit of a show and

692
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,119
a reason for you know, for a fun visit by

693
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,319
him not busting in ninth. And then when he made

694
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:28,839
the second day of the final table, all of a

695
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,319
sudden things felt more more loose, and I guess in

696
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,640
a way more real because you've got a few page

697
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,079
jumps and all of a sudden, now you're in it.

698
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,079
You got some some airtime, and uh yeah. He looked

699
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,920
back on this experience with a lot of a lot

700
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,960
of really nice words.

701
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

702
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,599
Speaker 1: On his final hand is quickly before we talked to

703
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,319
or we bring in Greg here blind verse blind against

704
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Sasclotti Sasclotti in the small blind limps Kings gets a

705
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,440
bit tricky there. Mueller checks the ten four comes ace

706
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440
ace four, so a better two pair for Sasclotti, two

707
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640
pair for me as well. It goes check check turn

708
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,240
jack bet from Sascolotti for the minimum a mount three million.

709
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:10,079
Mueller calls River is a three, and Sasclotti decides to

710
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,359
put Mueller all in. He actually did what he did earlier.

711
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,680
He said fifty million, so which was I believe about

712
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,160
a two point three x pot size bet. Given what

713
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,680
Mueller had left, the fifty million did represent more than

714
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480
what Mueller had behind. Mueller tanked for a bit, ultimately

715
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,599
said call his two pair. Of course, no good against Sascolotti.

716
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400
A lot of metagame going on here too. Obviously we

717
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,160
talked about the hand that Mueller screwed up on the

718
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,279
first day of the final table, which was against Sasclotti.

719
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,400
That was when Sasclotti pulled that big bluff against him.

720
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,839
So that's probably going through Greg's mind the whole thing.

721
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,640
It's like, well, I think he thinks, you think, and

722
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,480
it's all this leveling war and then ultimately Greg calls

723
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,279
it off bad. But in the end he still did

724
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,200
make his way to the final three, so I think

725
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,160
he's happy for it. And here is Greg Mueller with

726
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Remco Right now.

727
00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:00,599
Speaker 3: Greg, the fairy tale, the story, the rush to roller coaster,

728
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,400
how do you want to put it? Has ended in

729
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,480
third place? What's what's the emotion in this moment?

730
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 7: You know, busting deep in the main event usually brings

731
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:16,519
me negative emotions. I just busted the main event and

732
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:20,440
I am on cloud nine. And it's I mean, there's

733
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,400
several things, you know, the money's nice, the deep runs nice.

734
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,599
Speaker 4: The TV you guys are amazing.

735
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 7: But I truly think it's from the heart and the

736
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,400
soul of all these friends that flew in from Canada,

737
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,400
stop their life, put their whole life on hold, and

738
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:40,159
just stood here for hours, just bringing so much energy

739
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,159
that how can you be sad busting in anything? And

740
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,119
and And the thing is I played with that freedom

741
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,760
all day today. You know, I was a bit nervous yesterday.

742
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,199
First card I looked at was a jack. They had

743
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960
just gotten here, and I'm like, please, don't give me

744
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,880
another jack. I don't want to run into it, you know,

745
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,880
because I wanted them to have a good time. They

746
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,639
they like, it's not easy just leaving family, coming here,

747
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,559
and you know, but today we had such a good day.

748
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,079
Speaker 6: Yesterday I was a short stack today.

749
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 7: There were no expectations. I went in free as can

750
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,679
be and no restrictions, and it was probably the best

751
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,400
day yet if you could believe it.

752
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: You guys played one hundred and eight hand yesterday and

753
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:20,599
as you mentioned, like it felt tense, it felt tight.

754
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,400
It was a very different atmosphere from the vase prior

755
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,320
that we saw. And then today, all of a sudden,

756
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,159
I feel like a switch was flipped. You guys were

757
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:29,039
a bit more loose.

758
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: And then the hand that.

759
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: Sort of kicked it all off was your first double up.

760
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,039
You gave a round to high fives. You were high

761
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,760
fiving Jumlan's rail. It seemed as though the party had started.

762
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. I think heading into the final table after

763
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,559
we had had a two and a half week break,

764
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,480
nobody really wanted to bust in ninth. You know. People

765
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:50,559
were like, well, I don't want to go there and

766
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,760
come in ninth and make no extra money and be

767
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,280
the first one out on TV. I want to get

768
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,719
lots of love on exc right.

769
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 4: And so once we.

770
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 7: Made it today to today, it was kind of like,

771
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,079
you know what, we're free rolling everything, Like we're free

772
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,840
rolling a few pay jumps. We're free rolling TV. We're

773
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,159
free rolling the fans that came out here, Like I

774
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,679
just think it was more of a okay, we want

775
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:13,360
to win, But I don't know That's what I felt.

776
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,679
And I feel like people were definitely, like you said,

777
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,559
a lot looser.

778
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: There was a lot of massive decisions that you had

779
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,280
to make.

780
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,679
Speaker 3: You know, you were all in twice you spiked it

781
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,920
with the King jack, your ninees held up, and then

782
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,599
you made a monster fold. You seemed super dialed in.

783
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Walk us through how you look back at the way

784
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,800
you played.

785
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 7: Very happy with the way I played, you know, like

786
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,519
I said, Bucky was on my ass all the time

787
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:39,119
about take your time, don't rush your decisions. Just think

788
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,320
about the everything you're You have amazing instincts. If you

789
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,320
bust and you go with the read like kind of here.

790
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,920
You know, I thought I thought maybe my four was good.

791
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,280
I lose zero sleep over that. What would have sucked

792
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,480
as if I panicked and jammed twenty big blinds with

793
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:56,800
a bad hand just because out of panic, you know,

794
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,000
and and so very happy with my and like I said,

795
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,159
he was on me all the time about you know,

796
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,559
taking your time and using your instincts and there's no rush,

797
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,880
and so yeah, it was very happy with that.

798
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: A couple more small things when you listen back to

799
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,679
this interview in twenty five years, just to you know,

800
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,840
put a number on it. What do you want the

801
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,639
Greg Mueller of the future to remember about what this

802
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:24,280
experience was?

803
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,199
Speaker 4: Like? Just how much love and outpour.

804
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,199
Speaker 7: I have in my life because you know, in the end,

805
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:36,880
and I'm a very competitive guy, and I wanted to

806
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,480
bracelets so bad, but in the end, everybody leaves and

807
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,000
you don't take anything with you. What you have is

808
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:47,159
your legacy and your love and respect that you have

809
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,679
from your.

810
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 6: Friends and family.

811
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 7: And I mean this is it's beyond comprehension, the euphoria

812
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,320
that I feel.

813
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 4: Final one, what's the party going to be?

814
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 3: Like? How are you going to get this entire crew

815
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,119
into one place? Are you going to rent something out?

816
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,599
What's going to happen where.

817
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,159
Speaker 4: We go on again? Again?

818
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 7: Like everything, I never really plan much, you know. I

819
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,280
want to try and get a few things taken care of,

820
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,079
loose ends, and then whatever these guys want to do.

821
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,679
I have a few connections. I'll try and figure out

822
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,960
either take a whole restaurant out or or or you know,

823
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,960
take one of these night clubs and splash around a

824
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,159
few bottles and you know, pay my respect back.

825
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: To these guys, and then that's it. Then we're done.

826
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,039
Heads up, heads up. Yeah, and all of a sudden,

827
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,840
we know, we know what the matchup is. We know

828
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:40,360
that we're going to be watching an exciting heads up battle.

829
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,440
These are not folders, these are not limpers. I believe

830
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,960
the School of Pads probably has some sort of prescription

831
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,679
on how Jumalan should approach this. You probably know better.

832
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,199
You know Pads quite well. But ultimately I think Susclothi,

833
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,760
as as I mentioned in our earlier conversation, Sus not

834
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,440
the is the only player in my mind who has

835
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,400
a chance against Jumalan, and now he gets to prove

836
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,840
it because it's one hundred and nine bigs versus seventy

837
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,039
five bigs, and that means that we could be here

838
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:10,519
for a while.

839
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

840
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: Well, well we talked to both players. You grabbed Jumalan,

841
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,480
I grab Sascoltti. We'll play Sascolotti first here. But you

842
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,320
could tell that he kind of has this no care attitude,

843
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:25,800
but you can also sense that it's dangerous. He's kind

844
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,840
of like a gangster out there like it's calm, but

845
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,679
you know, at any moment he could just kill you,

846
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,639
like you know, figuratively speaking. It's just it's absolutely wild

847
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,440
how this guy has the utmost confidence does not back down.

848
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:42,920
I know he did show that crazy amount of emotion

849
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,519
earlier in that big hand that we talked about against

850
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,920
Han Feng, but other than that, he has been an

851
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,559
absolute stone faced killer out there and that could ultimately

852
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,199
get the better of Jumalan. I mean, we'll see he's

853
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,880
not going to back down. I don't think there's gonna

854
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,199
be much pre flop folding in this mat which I

855
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,000
think they're gonna see plenty of flops, even if they

856
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,639
are raised or three bet or even four bet pots.

857
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,679
Sascallotti will probably be somebody who's looking to ramp up

858
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,639
the aggression a bit more. Just that's the nature of

859
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,960
his play, that's how he's wanted to play things so far.

860
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,079
Jumalan will probably be a little bit more conserved, pot

861
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,519
ConTroll ish, but he can also bring out the hammer

862
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,679
in his own right. It's going to be very interesting

863
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,320
to see what happens, and it doesn't have to happen

864
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,360
early on or if it happens a little later on

865
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,320
the match or whatever. But if Jumalan does ultimately fall behind,

866
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,800
he has not been out of the first spot the

867
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,320
entire final table. So what does that feel like? You know,

868
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,519
when you do look over at your opponent and you realize, oh,

869
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,400
now he's the one with three hundred million and I

870
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,400
got two fifty, you know, how does that possibly change things?

871
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,440
So but here is Laurie Sascolotti after play. He was

872
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,920
he was a bit kind of tired on the way out,

873
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:58,400
understandably so so only got a couple questions in. But

874
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,440
I think you guys can definitely get age the confidence

875
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,320
that he has going into heads up play. All right,

876
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,519
just tell me about how you think the day went.

877
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,480
Do you think it went as you expected or a

878
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,079
bit of a surprises along the way.

879
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I was expecting that it would be

880
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,719
a quick day, so I was expecting pretty fast eliminations.

881
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,719
I didn't have the best start myself, but I was

882
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,320
still confident obviously.

883
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,559
Speaker 4: I mean this was.

884
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,079
Speaker 8: Pretty much the perfect day for me, so kind of

885
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,159
complain really about anything. And I got super lucky against

886
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:39,079
Han thing other than that, it was pretty I'll say

887
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:46,320
I didn't have any big decisions to make. So yeah,

888
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,719
I mean, obviously I'm super excited. I'm happy to see.

889
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: How it went for me.

890
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Tell me about that moment against han Fan, because you

891
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,000
haven't been overly emotional at least on the outside so far,

892
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,320
but that moment everything changed, of course. Yeah.

893
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,159
Speaker 8: No, I mean seeing the flop of pretty much growing dead.

894
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:09,760
Then I saw the jack on the turn. I was

895
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,760
here with my rail. Sometimes you get a feeling my

896
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,280
rail that the Queen is coming when it's hit. Yeah,

897
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,480
everything kind of Yeah.

898
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Now, how do you go into tomorrow?

899
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Lucas does have the chip Ley, but you have plenty

900
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
of ammunition on your side, and you haven't been someone

901
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,039
you mentioned confidence, You haven't been someone who's backed down

902
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,559
at all out this event. So are you Are you

903
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,559
just ready to go and just throw blows with him?

904
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm fully ready. I mean I played with Lucas

905
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,800
I think on day five or or We had a

906
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,400
lot of battles already back then, so I think most

907
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,199
of us are prepared to have a nice battle on

908
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,920
the headshop. So I'm fully ready. Let's see what happens.

909
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,639
But I have yeah, I mean, I have full confidence

910
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,000
in myself.

911
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,159
Speaker 1: So that was Laurie soaske loott He's gonna have two

912
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,679
hundred and twenty five million in chips to start heads

913
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,199
up play. That represents seventy five big blinds. Yes, Lucas

914
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,400
Jumalan has more, but effectively they will be playing seventy

915
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,199
big blind deep poker, which is crazy deep for heads

916
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,000
up in a poker tournament. So you know, this thing,

917
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,320
to me could go eight minutes, it could go eight

918
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,239
hours or anything in between. And I think it's going

919
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,360
to be super fun.

920
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: I think that the panic button will get smashed if

921
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,039
within the first twenty five minutes we see both players

922
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,840
limp the button every single time. We just have to

923
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,039
hope for some raises and some three bets. But ultimately,

924
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,760
you know this, this has all the ingredients to go

925
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,840
down as an epic battle. Let's hope for one. Let's

926
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,840
hope for it to be entertaining. And you know, if

927
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,039
you judge things by Jumalan's words, the excitement he carries,

928
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,920
how he recognizes how big this spot is, and how

929
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,199
he references to the act that and this is I

930
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,679
believe in the interview with Jeff how he and Subsqual

931
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:09,360
subsqually already played played some heads up pots on day

932
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,639
five and said to each other, you know, we're gonna

933
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:13,360
get heads up in this thing. That's crazy. Now they

934
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,239
are heads up, and they both actually called it out

935
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,519
in the interview with Jeff when they wrapped up for

936
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:20,280
the night. It's just ridiculous. And uh, yeah, all I'll

937
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,760
say is that this is on audio, so you obviously

938
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,199
can't see him, but the the amount of poise and

939
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:33,480
the amount of I guess maturity that you see when

940
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:37,760
you speak to Jumalan is something very rare. And I

941
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,039
almost want to say he's got that that that champion

942
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,880
sort of attitude around him.

943
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: Lucas, you're on the rail of your friends.

944
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: We just saw you crowd serving sum up this whole

945
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,679
experience up until this point.

946
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,519
Speaker 9: First of all, that was a little scary, but I

947
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,400
might not be doing that one again. But you know,

948
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,440
it's just I don't even really have words for it.

949
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,400
It's just so awesome, and uh to get the chance

950
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,119
to be an ambassador for the game and all the

951
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,239
all the all the young hits out there would uh

952
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:10,440
would be my honor. You know, like hopefully hopefully somebody

953
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,400
out there looks at this and goes, I can I can.

954
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,679
I can do that and puts the work in and

955
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:16,559
really goes after it.

956
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 3: Today was such a riveting day of play for us

957
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,800
watching from the sidelines, compared to yesterday, where things were

958
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
moving pretty slow. What was it like for you to

959
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:26,199
be in it with the constant action, A lot more

960
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:28,079
all ins, a lot more pressure, a lot more aggression.

961
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 9: You know, I saw them ragging on us on Twitter,

962
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,400
so you know I had to I had to pick

963
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,079
it up a little bit. But you know, it was

964
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,760
it was It was fun. I like I like playing

965
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,159
I like playing a lot of hands.

966
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: So this just fits me. So, you know, great day.

967
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: So one thing I noticed when Laurie went Runner Runner

968
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,280
to Stay Alive Versusasis, something seems to change in his

969
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,519
personality and in the way that he was playing, almost.

970
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,159
Speaker 4: As if he was on a free roll.

971
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,079
Speaker 3: His aggression picked up, he seemed more relaxed, and all

972
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:56,000
of a sudden, this new.

973
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 4: Type of player emerged. Because you had not very much

974
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,480
competition up until that point.

975
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,599
Speaker 3: What's I like to go up against the one player

976
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,960
that might not be too scared to play against you?

977
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, none of none of these guys would

978
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,400
have been scared to play heads up. It's it's poker,

979
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,239
and they're all fantastic poker players.

980
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,079
Speaker 4: You know, I don't.

981
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,079
Speaker 9: I don't take anybody lightly, and certainly not him. Me

982
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,480
and him have been literally battling since day five.

983
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Souh.

984
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's just really cool to be heads

985
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:22,079
up with him.

986
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:41,079
Speaker 9: Couldn't couldn't be a better guy too.

987
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: Just a kid with a dream man Lucas Jumalan, I

988
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,400
wouldn't be I know you mentioned possibly hitting the panic

989
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,079
button with some pre flop limping. I don't think I

990
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,599
would be so worried if we start seeing that, because

991
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,639
I think these guys are two guys who we could

992
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,119
see some pre flop limping, but then pots could easily

993
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:55,679
all of a sudden be like we're on the turn

994
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,199
and there's sixty million in there, and like what the

995
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,599
heck just happened? It was like bett Ray's re raised call.

996
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,440
Here we go, oh, like, yeah, this is it's gonna

997
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,280
be fun. And I hope, I really hope. And maybe

998
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,480
this is just a poker fan in me hoping that

999
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:12,119
we're not building up the anticipation too much and that

1000
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,400
it's just a dud of a heads up match. But

1001
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,519
I just can't imagine that it is. I almost feel

1002
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:22,960
like obviously both players I think, really want to win, right. Yes,

1003
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,280
I think Jumalan just wants to play really good poker

1004
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,639
and he believes that that will ultimately win him the tournament.

1005
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,639
I almost feel like Sascolotti wants to win with flair,

1006
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Like he wants to do it with style in one way,

1007
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,679
shape or form, So whether that's along the way, running

1008
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,800
some insane bluff, making a big call like whatever it is,

1009
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Like I mean, even when he's saying things like fifty,

1010
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,320
let's gamble, like he he wants that, you know, Like

1011
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,760
it comes down to like how he combs his hair,

1012
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,280
the glasses he's wearing, what he's dressed in, like you

1013
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,840
can tell that's his. And I think he wants to

1014
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,360
not just win it, but win it in a way

1015
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,480
that is remembered for a specific thing, being like yeah,

1016
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:11,239
I'm the guy who did that, right, So that could

1017
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,760
then lead itself to some craziness, some fireworks during this

1018
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,480
heads up match. And if you're coaching Lucas Jumelan, I

1019
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,800
think you just got to be like listen, man, be

1020
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,880
ready for anything with this guy. He does not care

1021
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,800
about you he's not going to back down from your tipstack.

1022
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,199
You know you would, you would because he's not a

1023
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:33,400
professional player, you know, more of a semi pro player.

1024
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:37,719
Even if that, you know, to him, six million dollars

1025
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,760
is probably enough of a win right now. So it's

1026
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,800
it's almost like it's expected that Jumalan should win, and

1027
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,599
with that comes a little bit more pressure at times.

1028
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,519
So we'll see how it all plays out. But I'm

1029
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:51,079
ready for this one. I think it's going to be

1030
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,519
a crazy fun match.

1031
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny how we haven't even really talked about

1032
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,119
payouts much, but you know, Mueller got three points seven

1033
00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:00,000
to five million exactly on two points seventy five million,

1034
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,440
and then they're now guaranteed six million playing heads up

1035
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,159
for four million, ten million up top for the winner.

1036
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,400
We'll we'll we'll find out tomorrow who will get to

1037
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,360
hang their banner inside the Paris poker room or inside

1038
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,039
the horseshoe wherever they put those things these days. But

1039
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,199
it's it's iconic, you know, they're they're playing for the banner,

1040
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,880
they're playing for the for the for the honor and

1041
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,159
the the you know, lifelong fame that comes with becoming

1042
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:27,639
the main event champion, and I think I saw a

1043
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,440
tweet from from Matt Salzburg who said if Susculatuti wins,

1044
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,760
he'll probably buy a boat and we'll never see him again,

1045
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,800
which I think very true. I think it's probably very true.

1046
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: So whereas Lucas Jumlan, I think I think maybe in

1047
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,599
the interview with Jeff Platt afterwards, he said like I'm

1048
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:43,719
ready to be Poker's ambassador. Yeah, he said that, like

1049
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,320
he's that he.

1050
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: Wants that, And I think I think as as a

1051
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,920
community we should sort of in a way root for

1052
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,800
the guy who wants it.

1053
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean we obviously don't. We don't necessarily know

1054
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:56,159
if if Sasclotti wants her not, just because he hasn't

1055
00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:59,440
been vocal about it. You know, I could certainly see Sascelotti.

1056
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:01,960
I think there's been some kind of jokes throwing around

1057
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,800
with like is this guy gonna quit his.

1058
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,199
Speaker 4: Job or not?

1059
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,159
Speaker 1: I'm guessing yes.

1060
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean he's gonna get some

1061
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,639
invites to come play at the studio with his finished friends.

1062
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that would be great to.

1063
00:50:11,039 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: See probas see him the hundred k PLO next year, Yeah,

1064
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,719
for sure.

1065
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,519
Speaker 4: With as much money.

1066
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: He said he loves PLO.

1067
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 4: Let's go. That'd be amazing.

1068
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just excited for tomorrow, and I'm also

1069
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,679
excited that I get to go to bed before midnight

1070
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:21,960
to night.

1071
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: That's true.

1072
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: It's eight thirty pm. So we're gonna wrap this one up.

1073
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,119
You guys are listening to this likely on Wednesday, it

1074
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,000
will be the final, final, final day for the twenty

1075
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,800
twenty six WISP, for the twenty twenty six Doubicipy main event.

1076
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,239
We are going to crown a world champion. Somebody is

1077
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,679
going to walk away ten million dollars richer, and it's

1078
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,000
either gonna be Lucas Jumalan or Lori Sasclotti. For Remkrink,

1079
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,199
my name is Donnie Peters and we'll talk to you

1080
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:47,000
guys next time.

1081
00:50:52,239 --> 00:51:00,679
Speaker 3: Jennie fo