WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.360 A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:07.280 demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:12.560 I'll just everywhere on the iHeartRadio that as. 5 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.160 You get older, you learn to appreciate the very things 6 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.079 that she is pooh poohing at this stage. 7 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:18.800 Differences. 8 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:23.559 Differences, Differences are great and also nice and smart goes 9 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.359 much further than a spark right away. 10 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:26.800 Than a hat. 11 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.519 I mean, you need a spark, but not like you 12 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.039 don't need you know, he doesn't need to be you know, well, 13 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:35.280 I won't paint that picture. 14 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.439 Speaking of sparks. 15 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:43.840 The Senate right now is one of the committees is 16 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:48.920 going after some of our intelligence leaders. Director of National 17 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.799 Intelligence is up there, Telsea Gabbard, the head of the CIA, 18 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:54.200 Cash Betel, the director of the The. 19 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.840 Lighting, the lighting is not going away. 20 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.880 It's the apprentice lighting from the reality show of twenty Years. 21 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.000 This is Michael Bennett, Senator from Colorado. 22 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:10.560 Sloppiness, this incompetence, this disrespect for our intelligence agencies and 23 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.920 the personnel who work for him is entirely on amable. 24 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.879 It's an embarrassment. Seive, Senator, you need to do better. 25 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.680 You're talking about the intelligence meeting. I was talking about 26 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:25.840 the Oh that's still the Capitol. 27 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.879 Why does the lighting look dimmer there too? A different channel. 28 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.439 But anyway, I wonder if the lighting from yesterday at 29 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:33.760 the White House is going to continue. 30 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.040 That's what I thought I was looking at. 31 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:39.239 But yes, the fact that this is so political, right 32 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:43.200 like had it been the Democrats that had been talking 33 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.959 on Signal the app or whatever their own private emails, 34 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:53.560 same damn thing. It's just maddening the how hypocritical everything 35 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:54.400 is in Washington. 36 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.159 So you broke this at least on our show yesterday, 37 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.599 we talked about this where it turns out that a reporter, 38 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.079 actually the editor in chief now for the Atlantic magazine, 39 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:10.919 Jeffrey Goldberg, was included in a text chain of the 40 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:15.280 highest level cabinet members that exist, basically Secretary of Defense, 41 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.199 Secretary of State, Vice President of the United States, the 42 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.800 director of the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence, and 43 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:30.439 all of them discussing our upcoming actions against Hohothi's in Yemen. 44 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.719 And when Jeffrey Goldberg I read through this whole piece 45 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:35.159 that he put in the Atlantic yesterday explaining it. When 46 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.400 Jeffrey Goldberg got a notification that he had been involved 47 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:44.879 in the houthy PC small group. He immediately thought, this 48 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.439 has got to be fake. Not only is it fake, 49 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.639 it's probably a trap. He thought it was going to 50 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:57.000 be one of those finger quotes journalist groups that goes 51 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:01.400 out and tries to catch reporters and prove that they're 52 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.719 left leaning tools or something like that. So he did 53 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.599 nothing as part of this group. He didn't respond, he 54 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.400 didn't add any input. He didn't go, hey, guys, it's 55 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.120 Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic. You probably don't want me 56 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.120 in here. He didn't do anything because he thought it 57 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:17.520 was fake. 58 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:22.599 Eric Leonard was the first reporter that I remember before 59 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.680 even apps were a thing, at least not a thing 60 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:26.479 like they are now. 61 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:27.879 Who used this. 62 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.240 I believe it was Signal and the very infancy as 63 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.159 a way to communicate with sources in LA and. 64 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.280 Elsewhere, because it's end to end ENCRYPTID, right, so it 65 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.360 would be harder for someone to tap into and find 66 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:43.479 your secrets. 67 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.560 Exactly, So it wouldn't be out of the realm of 68 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:50.680 possibility that a trusted reporter would be on your signal 69 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:52.800 contact lists or whatever the hell it is. 70 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:54.080 I don't know I've never used it. 71 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.840 I have no sources, but you know what I mean, Like, 72 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.879 it wouldn't be out of the realm that he would 73 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.960 be added to the group chat if he was in 74 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.639 contact with these people off the record, on the record. 75 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.159 Wink wink, it's not It's not like it's not like 76 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:14.120 Joe Blow in Peoria is getting the war plans. It's 77 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:18.279 people that are probably trusted with high level information anyway 78 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.040 in this group, like Jeffrey Goldberg. And yes, he should 79 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.920 not have been included, and should war plans be talked 80 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.079 about on an app These are all discussions to have. 81 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.480 But it's not like some massive breach of information got 82 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.279 into the wrong hands. It's not like China was made 83 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:35.079 privy to this. 84 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.560 So and I told you that that when when he 85 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:41.519 first was realized that he'd been included in this chat, 86 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.959 he thought it was fake. And then he thought, oh, 87 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:49.240 maybe I was included on this by one of either 88 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:52.759 one of these high level cabinet members or one of 89 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.720 their you know, direct underlings who would have set up 90 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.600 the meeting because they wanted to leak the information to 91 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.639 the guy he who would write it up in the 92 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.519 in the Atlantic magazine. Now he still hadn't come to 93 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.319 any conclusion about exactly what it was, and the information 94 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.439 back and forth was pretty interesting, just in terms of 95 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:17.399 the difference of opinion between say, the Vice President and 96 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.240 the Secretary of Defense when it came to the actual 97 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:24.360 attack that was supposed to take place on the hoo 98 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.959 Thi's in Yemen because of their attacks on maritime and military. 99 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.480 Assets, and that to me is a fascinating part of 100 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.480 the story. And we'll get into that coming up next 101 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.279 because that is interesting how they communicate with each other 102 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.319 when it comes down to things like this. The President, 103 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.079 by the way, did tell NBC News today that National 104 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.079 Security Advisor Mike Waltz has learned a lesson. 105 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:50.040 Yeah, he's supposedly the guy that set the whole thing up, 106 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:53.040 invited the members to the group, and it would have 107 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.879 been Michael Waltz who had Jeffrey Goldberg's number or contact 108 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:03.319 information and somehow in included him in the text chain 109 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.800 to begin with. So, like I said, Tulsi Gabbard, Michael Ratcliffe, 110 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:16.319 Director CIA Cash Bettel from FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, 111 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:19.519 they were all talking before a Senate committee this morning, 112 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.480 and this was one of the main topics. So we'll 113 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:26.560 play some of that and what Pete Hegseeth says about 114 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.240 what happened. He made some comments today about Jeffrey Goldberg 115 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:34.079 basically calling him a flat out liar about what was 116 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:34.759 in Well. 117 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.319 I don't look to Pete hag Seth as the bastion. 118 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.199 But he's the Secretary of Defense. He should be. 119 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.480 He should be, but he's not. Did you expect him 120 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.680 to be? Come on, but the pearl clutching on Capitol 121 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:48.480 Hill is rich. 122 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.399 Well, just say that Gary and Shannon will continue. 123 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:56.160 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 124 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:57.560 AM six forty. 125 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.360 As Amy just mentioned getting word out of Washington that 126 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.439 there are now separate agreements between Ukraine and the United 127 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.199 States and Russia and the United States to ensure safe 128 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.680 navigation in the Black Sea, to try to implement a 129 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:17.920 ban against strikes against energy facilities in those two countries. 130 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.160 White House said in a statement today that Washington's going 131 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.800 to try to help restore Russia's access to the world 132 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:28.160 market for agriculture and fertilizer exports and will continue facilitating 133 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.759 talks on both sides as they try to come somewhere 134 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.839 something a little bit closer, perhaps to some sort of 135 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.600 ceasefire in that area. We've been following the story top 136 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:45.120 national security officials, including the Defense Secretary. We're texting war 137 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.000 plans for upcoming military strikes in Yemen to a group 138 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.639 chat in what is otherwise a secure messaging app that 139 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.959 includes editor in chief of the Atlantic. Unfortunately for them, 140 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.399 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote a huge piece in what was going 141 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.480 On sorry, in the Atlantic magazine about what was going 142 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.639 on on this text chain, and the Secretary of Defense 143 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:14.160 Pete Hegseth had said that this, in fact was not 144 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.079 a war plan. He said so on the tarmac after 145 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.240 he got off an airplane earlier today and then sorry, 146 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.920 it was yesterday that he said that. At the writer 147 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:30.600 for the piece itself, again, Jeffrey Goldberg had said, that's 148 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:34.159 a complete lie. This was one hundred percent a war plan, 149 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:36.759 to the point where I recognized it and knew I 150 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:37.840 shouldn't publish it. 151 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.159 We heard from Secretary heg set They were saying that 152 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:44.080 nobody was texting war plans, given you were privated this 153 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:45.399 group chat, is that how you saw it? 154 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.639 No, that's a lie. He was texting war plans. He 155 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:54.639 was texting attack plans when targets were going to be targeted, 156 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.279 how they were going to be targeted, who was at 157 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.679 the targets, when the next sequence of attacks for happening. 158 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.240 I didn't publish this, and I continue not to publish 159 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:06.600 it because it felt like it was too confidential. 160 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.720 In fact, there were certain things the other things that 161 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.000 Jeffrey Goldberg did not put in his Atlantic piece, some names, 162 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:17.240 for example, of what he believed were active CIA intelligence agents, 163 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.720 So he had at least the wherewithal the smarts to 164 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:22.759 not include some of that stuff. 165 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.879 Yes, I mean, you can frame it however you want 166 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:33.399 to frame it. You can say these weren't war plans specifically. 167 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.679 If they were war plans, they would be official war plans, 168 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:38.440 and they would be done this way, and they would 169 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:42.000 go through Congress. And you can absolutely make that argument 170 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:46.000 and be considered not lying. But you can also make 171 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:51.200 the argument that justin PTE. Hagseth's communicate alone, you're absolutely 172 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:52.399 planning for war action. 173 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.039 Well, and it was whatever it was, war plan, not 174 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.480 war plan, kind of war plan. It was specific enough 175 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.600 that Jeffrey Goldberg knew when this was going to happen. 176 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.600 So if nothing else, even if they didn't get into 177 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.759 the details of the actual bombs that they were going 178 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:10.919 to use, or where these assets were going to be 179 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:13.840 coming from, et cetera. He knew the timing of it, 180 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.279 which is also an important aspect when it comes to 181 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.279 the intelligence to keep classified. 182 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:19.720 He knew enough to. 183 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:23.039 Sit in a grocery store parking lot and look at 184 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.639 Twitter a few minutes after this thing was scheduled to 185 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:28.840 begin and realize that bombs had started falling throughout Yemen. 186 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.480 I guess I should understand that in twenty twenty five 187 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.960 we communicate via text, and why I should expect something 188 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:40.240 more at this level, I don't know. But it's very 189 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:46.759 odd to see this conversation in text form in an app. Yeah, 190 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:51.639 like you and I texting balls jokes. They're talking about 191 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:57.480 green lighting war plans, so it be attacked like it's 192 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:58.039 odd to. 193 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:01.000 Me the way it was described in that hearing today 194 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.600 in the Senate. Specifically, it was Michael Ratcliffe, the director 195 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:08.279 of the CIA, who talked about the use of this 196 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.879 specific app and apps like it that are otherwise encrypted. 197 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:16.120 It's not iPhone messaging, it's not you know, back and 198 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.360 forth with the green bubbles, but he said that it's 199 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:25.519 very common for people in government, even in intelligence agencies, 200 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:29.159 to use this app, but they use it to kind 201 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:35.840 of direct people to other aspects of information. For example, 202 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.759 he said that they would use the Signal app maybe 203 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.759 to set up meetings or use the Signal app to 204 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.679 give people a heads up, Hey, I've got a classified 205 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:50.519 document that's headed your way. In the regular classified document 206 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.799 email system that we use that this kind of information, 207 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:59.639 even if it's low level or or not granular level 208 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.000 warp plans, that's not the kind of stuff that they 209 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.320 would normally share on that kind of an app. 210 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:08.799 Pete hag Seth, by the way, make some good points 211 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:17.000 I mean, hate him, love him whatever. In this communicay 212 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:23.279 he talks about Pete haig Seth says VP obviously Vice president. 213 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.159 I understand your concerns, fully support you're raising this with 214 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.759 potus important considerations, much of which are tough to know 215 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:35.039 how they play out parentheses, economy, Ukraine, piece, gods, et cetera. 216 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.360 I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what. 217 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.200 Nobody knows who the who the these are, which is 218 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.440 why we need to stay focused on number one Biden 219 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.919 failed and number two Ron funded waiting a few weeks 220 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.879 or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. Two 221 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.919 immediate risks on waiting. Number one, this leaks and we 222 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:56.159 look indecisive. Number two, Israel takes action first or Godza 223 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.559 cease fire falls apart and we don't get to start 224 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.600 this on our own terms. We can manage both were 225 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.440 prepared to execute. I mean, I'm more confident in Pete 226 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.519 Haigesath upon reading this than I have been. Well, he's 227 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:10.200 making great point logical points of how they should move 228 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:11.200 forward with this. 229 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.360 And like you said, I mean the idea that jd 230 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.559 Vance for example, Again, the way that Jeffrey Goldberg wrote 231 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.279 this was he was still doubting whether this was even real, 232 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.159 so he would say stuff like the account that was 233 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:26.600 labeled jd Vance. 234 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:28.960 He didn't say. The vice president then text, well. 235 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:32.039 Jd Vance comes across as a dip ass. Again, I 236 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.159 mean I thought he came across as a dipss in 237 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.120 that Oval Office meeting. And again I haven't always thought 238 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.200 that way about jd Vance. My thinking has evolved. He 239 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.200 came across as a child in that Oval office meeting 240 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:44.080 with Zelenski. 241 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:45.720 Have you even said thank you? 242 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.519 I mean, come on, you sound like a kid on 243 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:51.799 the playground, and he comes across similarly in this text chain. 244 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.200 Well, but what I I don't disagree with that necessarily, 245 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.840 but you've got to have somebody in the group that's 246 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.679 going to say no, or at least raise their hand 247 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.240 and go, wait a minute, we should we. 248 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:06.320 Need to talk about it. 249 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.000 We need to ask the questions of if we bomb 250 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:14.279 Yemen into last Tuesday, then we need to make sure 251 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.200 that we know our European allies are going to are 252 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.519 gonna have some reaction to this, the oil markets are 253 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.679 going to have some reaction to this, like have that 254 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.120 open discussion before you simply pull the trigger on something 255 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.240 like that. And I don't I don't mind that kind 256 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.399 if somebody in the room is going to do it. 257 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:32.200 If you put it that way, that's one thing. But 258 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:34.399 jd Vance puts it in here, I just hate bailing 259 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.600 out Europe again again sounding like a child. 260 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.159 Well, and then Pete Hexeth, Yeah, he says. 261 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:44.879 I share your loathing of European free loading. It's pathetic. 262 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.559 But and then he goes on to be the adult 263 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:48.240 in the chat. 264 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:54.320 Frankly, again, it was crazy that Jeffrey Gold they use. 265 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.240 They're using emojis, you guys like it's it's troubling, it's 266 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.759 I do not want to see text chains of the 267 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:06.320 major players in intelligence and defense now setting each other 268 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.639 emojis like fire American flag, happy face. 269 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.840 No, and a fist. Good lord listen. And the White 270 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.919 House has confirmed this is legit. Those are the people 271 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.720 that they say they were. They all admitted they. 272 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:19.559 Did learn their lessons. 273 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.279 Tulci Gabbert today didn't specifically say she was involved with 274 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:27.000 the chat, but the director of the CIA was like, yeah, 275 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.080 I'm Michael Ratliffe, A Ratcliffe, the guy who's in this 276 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:30.799 text chain. 277 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.080 So the White House has said it was true. 278 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.519 But like you said, President Trump, if Michael Wallace was 279 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.120 the guy who originated this text chain and put the 280 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.840 group together, he was the one responsible. And President Trump 281 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:45.679 just basically said he's learned his lesson. 282 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:46.759 He's a good guy. 283 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.200 What a fun exercise to go through. Though, If you're 284 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.840 Jeffrey Goldberg, you're privy to this, You've got this on 285 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.039 your phone, you've got this whole thing. Do you use 286 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.600 it as leverage in the future, or do you play 287 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.559 your hand now? Obviously he played his hand now, and 288 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.360 I think that that will I think that was the 289 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:10.480 correct play with this crew. Interesting but a fun exercise 290 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.480 to go through if you are privy to that information. 291 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.120 And guys, guys, before you put the text chain together, 292 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.120 make sure you know who everybody's number is. 293 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:20.440 Well, that's the thing. 294 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.120 Sometimes I'm in a group text with a couple of 295 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.240 my girlfriends and we've got like three group texts and 296 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.320 one of them involves husbands and one of them does not, 297 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.120 And sometimes we think we're talking on the one that 298 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.759 does not involve the husbands, and we. 299 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:38.639 Say like awful things like about the husband. 300 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.120 No, no, no, no no, things like no, it took 301 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.799 me four hours to shave my legs. 302 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:43.960 Who I'm so fat today? 303 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.279 Like stuff like that, and then we're like, oops, rum chain, 304 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:49.960 Like I. 305 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:51.480 Want to be part of that text chain, though, do 306 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:52.600 you really funny? 307 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.120 Oh, I'll add to you. We'll see how long you last. 308 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.559 All right, Canadians are now pissed off of the US. 309 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.840 They don't want to come here for vacation. Even Gary 310 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:04.920 and Shannon will continue. 311 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.759 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 312 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.160 AM six forty. 313 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.160 Getting some heat on the whole. The texting of the 314 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.559 warplans is odd. I don't like to see it in text. 315 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:23.440 Whatever I said, had somebody call in saying that it's illegal. 316 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:27.759 Oh my god, something that is going on in Washington 317 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.200 between the powers that b is illegal. 318 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.680 New stop it. Of course it's illegal. 319 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.440 Of course, using apps that are not encrypted and don't 320 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:43.759 protect government information is illegal. Of Course, it was probably 321 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:47.440 illegal when Hillary Clinton used her BlackBerry. 322 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.240 Okay, do you want to go down this road. I'll 323 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:50.079 go down this road. 324 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:50.680 Yes. 325 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.240 The rules back then with the State Department were very 326 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.880 lax when it came to personal email. The rules didn't 327 00:17:55.960 --> 00:18:00.720 keep up with the technology. But the idea that this 328 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.279 is the first illegal communicate on an app that government 329 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.079 officials have been caught in or engaged in, is freaking 330 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:09.480 Pollyanna crap. 331 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:10.599 Well, and here's the thing. 332 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:15.279 Come on, if you and I talk about the content, the. 333 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.400 Content stupid enough to put it in a text conversation 334 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.359 is what I'm saying that That's what I'm saying is that, yes, 335 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.839 I understand the conversations happened. This conversation happens. It should 336 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.319 be happening in person, not over text, and not over 337 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:30.440 tax That's my point. 338 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.799 And you and I again, we can spend an entire 339 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.000 twenty minutes talking about how stupid this was, how Michael 340 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:44.160 Walls could easily lose his job for being So, what's the. 341 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.079 Word I'm looking for? Careless? Careless? Thank you, that's you say, 342 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.920 that's what careless? Hillary Clinton? Okay to include a. 343 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:57.039 Journalist as part of this text Chaine, Yes, that's ridiculous 344 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.839 and idiocy. Then if you talk about the content of 345 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.599 the messages and you go, ah, I like to see 346 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.519 that someone raises their hand and says, hey, let's pump 347 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:06.240 the brakes on this, or I like to see PTGX 348 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.079 say something smart about the then it becomes somehow we're 349 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:13.359 whitewashing the idiocy that brought us the information in the 350 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:13.839 first place. 351 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.319 And that's not what we're doing now. 352 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.759 I'm just finding things that are more interesting than they 353 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.680 got caught using this so called encrypted app to talk 354 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.599 about war plans, asked and answered that was news, like 355 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:28.119 you said, we broke yesterday on this show. Now we're 356 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.119 hearing the substance of the text chain, and that stuff's 357 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.160 more interesting to me than sitting there. 358 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.440 And crying on to the top of my mountain and saying, 359 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:38.680 oh my god, you're horrible, illgal. 360 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.160 But what can we learn from the communication from the 361 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.880 powers that be, from the people that are making intelligence decisions. 362 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.680 How about that's interesting. Yes it was wrong, Yes it 363 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:49.279 was illegal. 364 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.960 All of that. This is nothing new for Washington. You 365 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.160 know what is new. The weather was warm yesterday. Woodland 366 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.640 Hills said it you trying to put lips to gone up? 367 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:03.240 Trying to put beef tallow on my face? Did you 368 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:04.480 put it on this? I did not put it on 369 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.519 this morning. I can tell, can't you. I didn't. I 370 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:07.400 look pretty scraggly. 371 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:12.559 The importance of a skincare routine. Oh dear, it's consistency. 372 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:12.559 Honey pants. 373 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.920 My wife asked me why I wasn't going to put 374 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:16.920 it on last night? Yeah, did you watch your face? 375 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:18.920 You put on beef tallow And I said, no, I'm 376 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:21.680 it's not like a beef towel all over my pillow, 377 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:22.599 in my NEETs, and. 378 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:25.559 Your face absorbs it, especially when it's that dehydrated. 379 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.920 Woodland Hills had a record it's ninety five degrees yesterday. 380 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.279 That was being joke. Your skin does not look dehydrated. 381 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.039 Balm Dale hit eighty four degrees that tied the record. 382 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.880 Pass Robles hit a record of eighty six degrees. 383 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.319 It wasn't about the milk. Apparently not. I was about 384 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:43.160 the beef tallow. 385 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.039 But you should put it on in the evening and 386 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:48.519 in the morning if you want it to work, if 387 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:50.839 you want, there's a reason you have it. If you 388 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.759 only use it intermittently, you're not going to see the 389 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.079 results that you want to see. All right, we'll talk 390 00:20:57.119 --> 00:20:57.839 about the Canadians. 391 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.440 I want to see. Yeah, I want. 392 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:08.960 Sometimes you don't know what you want until we tell you. Yes, 393 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:12.119 you want to talk Canadians or mushroom. Okay, we'll boot 394 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.200 mushrooms for the next hour. Story you thought you thought 395 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:21.400 that Denver was all about weed and dispensaries on every corner. 396 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.000 While what's weed is always the gateway drug. Right when 397 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.200 we're in high school, it was weed first and then 398 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.319 usually what followed weed, at least in the nineties was 399 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.640 the shrooms was the next level. And so that's what 400 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:35.480 that's the step they're taking, and we'll talk about it 401 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:36.200