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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Dan Caples Show.
Speaker 3: This is day two of two with Will kiny Shaff
Speaker 3: Steve Reams setting in as a guest host, and we're
Speaker 3: going to get right to the show today. There's not
Speaker 3: a more appropriate lead in than that a little bit
Speaker 3: of boxing metaphor in Dan's lineup, because yesterday we had
Speaker 3: Dudley Brown with Rocky Mountain Gun Owners taking a few
Speaker 3: shots at Ryan Armagust out of HD sixty four, and
Speaker 3: with us today we have Ryan Armagost to kind of
Speaker 3: throw a few punches back, and Ryan's on the line.
Speaker 2: Ryan, how are you doing good?
Speaker 4: Triff?
Speaker 5: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Ryan.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you heard a little bit of the audio
Speaker 3: from yesterday, and I know you've seen some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that was posted on social media from the Rocky
Speaker 3: Mountain Gun Owners. You know they posted some of your
Speaker 3: TikTok TikTok videos in addition to some statements that they're
Speaker 3: making about your work down at the State House, especially
Speaker 3: in reference to Senate Bill III. What do you have
Speaker 3: in response to that?
Speaker 5: Well, I think, first and foremost the attacks are unprovoked
Speaker 5: and unnecessary. I think it's just these are things that
Speaker 5: should be happening face to face, blind closed doors, where
Speaker 5: we can resolve issues, rather than make it public and
Speaker 5: further dividing not only the Republicans, but dividing the two
Speaker 5: A community. And that's what I think. We need to
Speaker 5: work harder at uniting and staying united in that, not
Speaker 5: trying to find a wedge to drive in between them.
Speaker 5: And right now I'm being created as that wedge.
Speaker 3: Okay, So some of the content that was put outs,
Speaker 3: you know, I had in reference to some emails that
Speaker 3: you had sent out to your constituents. One of them,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to read a quote here just to
Speaker 3: get a response from you. I'm still proud to represent
Speaker 3: our gun rights, for our caucus and for Colorado with
Speaker 3: all the other two A advocates, they take the fight
Speaker 3: to the capital, not to the doorstep of legislators and
Speaker 3: their families. If somebody came to my doorstep like that,
Speaker 3: my family would show them what the Second Amendment is
Speaker 3: all about. I think that's I think that's kind of
Speaker 3: where from what I understand, it caught the ire of
Speaker 3: the Rocky Mountain gun owners. Can you explain what that
Speaker 3: statement means and kind of what your intent was with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically this is something I'd told to them as
Speaker 5: well before I made that statement, But it's something that
Speaker 5: really just the accusations that were made toward them were
Speaker 5: that they were visiting the homes of family members while
Speaker 5: the legislators were at work, And to me, that was intimidation.
Speaker 5: If that was happening to my family, I'd be pretty upset.
Speaker 2: All right, so are you?
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to put you on the spot here, Ryan,
Speaker 3: but I guess in a little way I am. Are
Speaker 3: you saying the appropriate response to those kind of knocks
Speaker 3: on the door is with a gun in hand?
Speaker 6: Or you?
Speaker 2: Just what's the intent of that post?
Speaker 5: Me and Sam was just simply that it would make
Speaker 5: me and credit upset if I was the legislator that
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 4: Happening to my family.
Speaker 5: I know my I would not want my family to
Speaker 5: feel threatened being at home because they're they're married to
Speaker 5: a legislator. Or the children of a legislator. I think
Speaker 5: that's wholly inappropriate.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and the accusation yesterday was that from the
Speaker 3: Rocky Mountain Gun Owners was that you had basically offered
Speaker 3: a relief valve to the Democrats. I think you'd argue
Speaker 3: that you had four Democrats that were potentially going to
Speaker 3: vote against Senate Bill III, and that when you approach
Speaker 3: these folks in the in the well of the House
Speaker 3: and kind of you know, I guess spoke down about
Speaker 3: the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners tactics, it gave them a
Speaker 3: relief valve to vote against the bill. Do you do
Speaker 3: you see the same thing there? And do you really
Speaker 3: do you believe you had enough votes to kill the bill?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Walk walk us through that?
Speaker 5: No, and I don't think we will. That's wholly inaccurate.
Speaker 5: And I don't think we would have had the votes
Speaker 5: to kill the bill anyway, But there are definitely two
Speaker 5: votes that we could have had that would have been
Speaker 5: at least a closer situation. And the thing that I
Speaker 5: did with those legislators that I knew were either flipping
Speaker 5: their vote from where they were in committee to the
Speaker 5: House floor, I saw potential in it So I contacted
Speaker 5: them initially, just hey, are you still going to be
Speaker 5: an on this where you at? And they said, I'm
Speaker 5: not feeling the same as I was before. So that's
Speaker 5: where that ended up. That's where it started. But it's
Speaker 5: getting turned into something of speculation, which is again more
Speaker 5: divisive than anything else. Rather than coming to me, all
Speaker 5: anyone has to do is talk to me. That people
Speaker 5: know my email. If not, they can go to Pharmacaust
Speaker 5: sixty four dot com and find my email and reach out.
Speaker 5: That's fact, to get the facts from the source, not
Speaker 5: from speculation or organizations.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to I'm.
Speaker 3: Not putting words in your mouth, but I assume that
Speaker 3: you and the Rocky Mountain gun owners have had no
Speaker 3: official talks. When I say Rocky Mountain gun owners, the
Speaker 3: Dudley Browns, the Ian Escalantes, you guys have had no
Speaker 3: face to face talks since the end of session or
Speaker 3: since this bill passed. Correct, So what is your message
Speaker 3: to the gun owners out there of you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is your messaging where are we at on Senate
Speaker 3: Bill three or what's your stance even as it pertains
Speaker 3: to these gun rights advocates, whether it be Rocky Mountain
Speaker 3: gun owners in ra A, well, what's your message to
Speaker 3: the voters out there.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is, especially with Senate Bill three,
Speaker 5: that was just, I mean a huge, huge slap in
Speaker 5: the face to any gun owner out there. That bill
Speaker 5: is from where it began to what it morphed into
Speaker 5: over and over again, and every time it was read,
Speaker 5: it turned into something horrendous for more horrendous every time
Speaker 5: it was read. But it eventually became something that the
Speaker 5: governor wanted and we just then realized, holy cow, this
Speaker 5: might actually pass. And when it did, I think everyone
Speaker 5: in the two A community was definitely quick to point
Speaker 5: of finger It's kind of natural, it's the way things
Speaker 5: have been for a long time. But this year we
Speaker 5: it felt like we were much more united, but there
Speaker 5: was still a lot of finger pointing. I think instead
Speaker 5: everyone should have just taken the punch to the jaw,
Speaker 5: you know, rub some dirt on it, and then said
Speaker 5: let's get back up and get back in the fight.
Speaker 5: I think this is just something that's going to now
Speaker 5: have to be challenged. But unfortunately this isn't this isn't
Speaker 5: the beginning, but it's definitely not going to be the
Speaker 5: end on the attack from the Democrats and our gun
Speaker 5: rights for sure.
Speaker 3: I understand that. So, Ryan, we only have about thirty
Speaker 3: seconds left. I'll give you the last opportunity here, give
Speaker 3: you the last word to make a messaging to your
Speaker 3: voters out there. You know you're representing HD sixty four.
Speaker 3: Finished with your final word too.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I just I got to like that to
Speaker 5: represent how Sister fifty four are not a political organization.
Speaker 5: You know, when we win, when we work together, we
Speaker 5: need ever conservative voice of the table make a difference
Speaker 5: in the minority. That means finding common ground. I remain
Speaker 5: committed to working with anyone who shares the same ideology
Speaker 5: of supporting our law abiding citizens, supporting our gun rights,
Speaker 5: and otherwise supporting public safety and the needs of our
Speaker 5: state of Colorado to get it back to where it
Speaker 5: used to be. We didn't get here overnight. We're not
Speaker 5: going to get out of it overnight. But we need
Speaker 5: to stick together to make it happen.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on the show. Ryan, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: this is such a short segment, but we had the
Speaker 3: show booked. But thank you for coming on and giving
Speaker 3: a reply to the interview from yesterday, we're going to
Speaker 3: cut the break in again thanks to Ryan Armagos from
Speaker 3: HD sixty four and you're listening to the Dan Capla
Speaker 3: Show with Well Kenny Sheriff, Steve Rms.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast Steve.
Speaker 3: Reams sitting in. Sitting in as your guest host. Didn't
Speaker 3: get a chance to set this up as much as
Speaker 3: I wanted to in that first segment, but this is
Speaker 3: going to be our candidate for Governor's Show, and in
Speaker 3: full transparency, this first candidate that we're going to speak
Speaker 3: to is not a person that I've ever met personally.
Speaker 3: And I just started basically going through the list of
Speaker 3: twenty four candidates in the state of Colorado that are
Speaker 3: running for the seat for governor, twelve of those being Republicans.
Speaker 3: And so when I started going through the list, I
Speaker 3: found this next person's.
Speaker 2: Facebook page pretty easy.
Speaker 3: I reached out to this individual and he was very responsive,
Speaker 3: and that person is Alex. Got to Alex, are you
Speaker 3: on the line with us?
Speaker 4: I am Alex.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about yourself and what made
Speaker 3: you decide to jump in the race for Colorado governor
Speaker 3: as a Republican?
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, Thanks for having me, Steve.
Speaker 6: I'm Alex Mugatu.
Speaker 4: I'm a born and raised public Natives. Their generation probably
Speaker 4: the most distinguishing aspect of me. As far as I know,
Speaker 4: I'm the only millennial in this race. For what it's worth, Okay,
Speaker 4: what what I jumped into the race for. You know,
Speaker 4: I have some genuine concerns, as as many people do,
Speaker 4: with the direction of the state, and I have even
Speaker 4: more concerns with the direction of the way that the parties,
Speaker 4: the Republican Party has has been going in recent years.
Speaker 4: I think that there needs to be a serious come
Speaker 4: to Jesus moment with the way that we actually look
Speaker 4: at governing in Colorado. And as a as a business
Speaker 4: owner myself, I bring a different a different mentality when
Speaker 4: it comes to leadership, and I think I bring a
Speaker 4: different some very different ideas when it comes to governing itself.
Speaker 4: Some of the things that that i'mp me to jump
Speaker 4: into this race, you know, I'm passionate about certain issues,
Speaker 4: namely property rights and our constitutional rights, and I think
Speaker 4: that you know, every day that we've witnessed this past
Speaker 4: legislative session, it's just not looking good. Regardless of the
Speaker 4: kind of representation that we have in the legislature right now.
Speaker 4: So property rights is key to restoring the Colorado promise
Speaker 4: that was based in our American dream. And I'd like
Speaker 4: to have the Colorado that at our parents and grandparents
Speaker 4: essentially built for us.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: So, Alex, you mentioned that you're a small business owner.
Speaker 3: What is your business background? And also I'll just add
Speaker 3: on to that so you can kind of go with it.
Speaker 3: He said that you're kind of new to the political
Speaker 3: field as far as running for office. Do you have
Speaker 3: you been involved in Republican politics down in Pueblo. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm on the other end of the state. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, we haven't had a chance to get
Speaker 3: to meet. So this is the time for you to
Speaker 3: educate the voters on all that.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 4: So, actually, I'm I'm not I'm not new to to
Speaker 4: our political scene. I've actually been at this for for
Speaker 4: quite a while, mainly in Pueblo County. I've been a
Speaker 4: Republican candidate for the legislature several several times there there
Speaker 4: have been primaries, you know, the way that the party
Speaker 4: runs in our nominating processes. Uh, other other people have
Speaker 4: different ideas and you know, I get taken out in
Speaker 4: a primary, so that that's kind of where where my
Speaker 4: background is. I'll go on to say that that every
Speaker 4: one of those candidates that defeated me in a primary
Speaker 4: did go on to lose a general election. So nobody
Speaker 4: really knows what the voters are going to do. But uh,
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's just kind of my background. I've
Speaker 4: been at this for a for a long time here
Speaker 4: or not because I'm facing a political title, but because
Speaker 4: I want to see some change in our state. My
Speaker 4: business background, I I'm the uh I'm the owner and
Speaker 4: CEO of of Icon Asylum Entertainment, which which was a
Speaker 4: company that I established in two thousand and five when
Speaker 4: I was kind of goofing off in uh Fort Collins
Speaker 4: during my college years. And what that what that was
Speaker 4: was essentially a sports entertainment company with the flash and
Speaker 4: slambuoyance of UH pro wrestling in mm A, mixed martial
Speaker 4: arts and whatnot. We tried to uh come back to Pueblo,
Speaker 4: you know, with with big dreams I guess of taking
Speaker 4: my hometown by storm, and I I ran into politics
Speaker 4: and that's really where I started to get my foot
Speaker 4: into the door here is I discovered real quick that
Speaker 4: everything is so political in Pueblo County and I'm sure
Speaker 4: across the state that it just wasn't a good business
Speaker 4: environment for young entrepreneurs to to get themselves established in
Speaker 4: Colorado anymore. So that's that's kind of where where we're
Speaker 4: going with that. Then covid HIT and being a sports
Speaker 4: entertainment promotions at event promotions company, when Jared Polis decided
Speaker 4: he wanted to implement a mass ban on a ban
Speaker 4: on MAS gatherings, well, I mean if that that had
Speaker 4: an effect on ticket sales, so.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that was good for the business model. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was not.
Speaker 4: So we're trying to rebuild, but in the meantime, we
Speaker 4: want to see some some things change in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: So you know, every candidate tends to have a few
Speaker 3: pillars in there in there, you know, for for their candidacy.
Speaker 3: You talked about property, right, it's what are some other
Speaker 3: things that if given the chance to represent the state
Speaker 3: of Colorado as a Republican candidate or even as a
Speaker 3: Republican governor, what are the other things that you would
Speaker 3: you would find yourself focusing on.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I think that I think where Republicans
Speaker 4: have gone wrong is we've kind of let the Democrat
Speaker 4: Party kind of kind of trademark the term progressive, even
Speaker 4: though we've we've seen a lot of regressive policy coming
Speaker 4: out of the Gold Dome. We we've kind of let
Speaker 4: them trademark that for their own and really that's been
Speaker 4: to our own detriment. For for my property rights issue,
Speaker 4: one of my main staples on that is on the
Speaker 4: candidate that's known for for wanting to abolish residential property
Speaker 4: tax in Colorado, I think that that's something we can do.
Speaker 4: I think that that we shouldn't be forced to spend
Speaker 4: a lifetime leasing our own the pursuit of our own
Speaker 4: happiness from our government in order to keep it. And
Speaker 4: you know, once once you buy it, it should be
Speaker 4: yours for life. I think that energy independence, that we're
Speaker 4: having a big issue with energy, especially down here in Publo.
Speaker 4: We just ran a ballot measure, an unnecessary ballot measure,
Speaker 4: where the city wanted to basically take over Black Hills
Speaker 4: Energy is infrastructure and create a municipal a municipal energy company.
Speaker 4: It got shot down, so now we have to go
Speaker 4: back to the drawing table. I think that we can
Speaker 4: open up Colorado to a free market energy economy and
Speaker 4: let people decide who powers their homes and their businesses.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to the infrastructure of Colorado, where
Speaker 3: do you think we stand as a state? I mean,
Speaker 3: I know where we rank as a state. I think
Speaker 3: we're forty seven out of fifty if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: But what would be your plans as a governor or
Speaker 3: governor's candidate for addressing the infrastructure woes that are Colorado?
Speaker 4: Sure? I mean I've seen I do a lot of traveling, Steve,
Speaker 4: and I've seen two thousand year old cobblestone roads that
Speaker 4: are smoother drides than Colorado roads. You know, as the
Speaker 4: infrastructure is key to creating a strong economy. You have
Speaker 4: solid infrastructure, you bring in business opportunity, you bring in jobs,
Speaker 4: opportunities it you know, the sky's the limit there. So
Speaker 4: as far as as far as governor, that's where I
Speaker 4: would be focusing on. We had a candidate forum last
Speaker 4: Thursday in Longmont, and of course I left Pueblo at
Speaker 4: two thirty in the afternoon. There was a drive that
Speaker 4: should have taken me two hours to get to Longmont,
Speaker 4: and I got there a quarter to six, just before
Speaker 4: the event started. And you know, I think with what
Speaker 4: we're seeing here with the population growth, the I twenty
Speaker 4: five from Fillmore and Colorado Springs all the way up
Speaker 4: to north the northern the northern part of the metro,
Speaker 4: the I twenty five was basically a parking lot. I
Speaker 4: think that the growth and population is not sustainable with
Speaker 4: the infrastructure that we have, and we need to really
Speaker 4: focus on on expanding it from water from water infrastructure,
Speaker 4: energy infrastructure, improving our roads and highways, providing additional options
Speaker 4: for routing on roads and highways. There needs to be
Speaker 4: some significant investment in both time and energy to focusing
Speaker 4: on expanding our infrastructure.
Speaker 3: And I didn't hear you mention any kind of railway
Speaker 3: from Pueblo to Fort Collins, So that's probably a positive
Speaker 3: in your candidacy. Just to reset, we have Alex Mugatu
Speaker 3: on with us here on the show. He's a candidate
Speaker 3: for governor here in Colorado, Republican. You just kind of
Speaker 3: highlighting some of your stances, you know, again going back
Speaker 3: to some of the things that I think are red
Speaker 3: meat Republican issues. What's your stance on let's say Second
Speaker 3: Amendment issues. We just had one of the most egregious
Speaker 3: gun bills passed in the state of Colorado and Senate
Speaker 3: Bill IREI, where do you stand on something like that?
Speaker 4: Right well, I mean, obviously as a as a red
Speaker 4: blooded American here, our country was founded based off of
Speaker 4: a tax grievance and and we needed to be able
Speaker 4: to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Not saying that
Speaker 4: we're at that point yet, but right now, the way
Speaker 4: that that Colorado is looking after the last census and
Speaker 4: the redistricting process, I mean, we basically have what six
Speaker 4: or seven counties call on the shots for for for
Speaker 4: an entire state here. You know, two A is a
Speaker 4: big issue for me. I'm I'm a strong proponent of
Speaker 4: self governance. I'm a strong proponent of home ruld jurisdiction.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of liking what I'm seeing coming out of
Speaker 4: Douglas County right now. I wish that that all counties
Speaker 4: that aren't home rule counties would would jump onto that
Speaker 4: bandwagon and try to protect themselves from from overreach at
Speaker 4: the state level. As far as the Senate Bill three,
Speaker 4: which was in my opinion, I mean, I'm sure it's
Speaker 4: an opinion shared by many. It was an egregious overreach,
Speaker 4: constitutional violation, and I hope that it does get overturned
Speaker 4: in the court, but I think that this is actually
Speaker 4: something that's going to have to be overturned by the
Speaker 4: people themselves.
Speaker 3: Okay, Alex was just about twenty seconds left. What's your website?
Speaker 3: How can people find you?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 4: You can find me at Alex Mugatu mug a tu
Speaker 4: dot com and you can send a message a member
Speaker 4: of the If I don't get the message myself, one
Speaker 4: of our team members will get it and I'll get
Speaker 4: in touch with you.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Capless Show here with well
Speaker 3: Kenny Shriff Steve Riams as a guest host.
Speaker 7: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show Podcastle's.
Speaker 3: Show with Well Kenny Shriff Steve Riams setting in the
Speaker 3: driver's seat today day two of two. And just to
Speaker 3: remind the listeners what we're doing here today, we've got
Speaker 3: kind of a governor's show today, governor candidate Show. I
Speaker 3: guess I should say, as I mentioned in the earlier segment,
Speaker 3: there's twenty four candidates running for the governor in the
Speaker 3: state of Colorado, twelve that are Republicans, So we're going
Speaker 3: to cover four of them today and if I get
Speaker 3: a chance to cover in the future, we'll try to
Speaker 3: get to another four and then maybe hopefully, hopefully the
Speaker 3: last four unless more jump in. And we've already had
Speaker 3: a few texts talking about some other potential candidates. But
Speaker 3: if you want to text in the numbers five, seven, seven,
Speaker 3: three nine. We'll also take calls in the last segment,
Speaker 3: which is you can call in at three oh three seven, one, three, eight,
Speaker 3: two five five. But lit's without further ado. Let's get
Speaker 3: to our next candidate, which is the sheriff of Teller County.
Speaker 3: I know this individual pretty well. Jason Michael, how you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing good. Steve, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Doing something other than sheriff and and
Speaker 3: I got to tell you it's a whole lot more fun.
Speaker 3: But you're doing something other than sheriff in a little
Speaker 3: bit too. You're running for governor and this is your
Speaker 3: second time on the show with me. But tell us
Speaker 3: a little bit about your campaign platform. How are things going?
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, where are you finding energy out
Speaker 3: in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, see the energies everywhere everybody wants to change.
Speaker 6: I'm seeing that so many different places. And you know,
Speaker 6: I'm a little bit different than the other candidates. Most
Speaker 6: people don't know that. I've been an entrepreneur and businessman
Speaker 6: for many years. I've scaled companies and I have multiple
Speaker 6: small businesses with my wife throughout the Woodland Park area.
Speaker 6: And it's so I do a lot of different things.
Speaker 6: And then, by the way, I'm a sheriff too, so
Speaker 6: as a candidate, I kind of understand both sides of it.
Speaker 6: I know how to help Colorado build as a state
Speaker 6: and be able to get businesses back up and running.
Speaker 6: And I also know how to deal with the crime
Speaker 6: and the issues that we're seeing all throughout the state.
Speaker 3: Well, and I know the answer to this one because
Speaker 3: we've talked about it before, But what energized you to
Speaker 3: jump in the governor's race and kind of what are
Speaker 3: the tip poles, if you will, of your campaign candidacy?
Speaker 3: You know, what are those things that hold your campaign up?
Speaker 6: Well, I think right now, for me, it's just watching
Speaker 6: so many other politicians run that I just felt couldn't
Speaker 6: win a race and understand that. You know, we have
Speaker 6: a lot of big issues within the Colorado and a
Speaker 6: lot of it has to do with our budget and
Speaker 6: the goals to get it back to something that's fiscally responsible.
Speaker 6: The other piece, though, too, is I really look at
Speaker 6: crime as a major issue out throughout Colorado and just
Speaker 6: deregulating a lot of a lot of issues that are
Speaker 6: creating the high house costs, and really the everything that
Speaker 6: you're seeing is coming out of Denver right now. All
Speaker 6: the regulations, all the push to you know, really destroy
Speaker 6: Colorado is coming out of our legislature. And some of
Speaker 6: the biggest issues I see is we've got to fix
Speaker 6: our roads. We've got to fill some potholes. This is
Speaker 6: horrible now. And our crime is what third in the
Speaker 6: nation now for violent crime, and businesses are leading Colorado
Speaker 6: on a daily basis. So these are these are the
Speaker 6: areas that really energize me and get me moving. I've
Speaker 6: got three boys, and I want them to be able
Speaker 6: to come back to a Colorado that that they can
Speaker 6: actually be here and live and be able to grow
Speaker 6: in and be a part of. And I think everybody
Speaker 6: wants that for their children.
Speaker 3: So when you're out there and you're interacting with the public,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're getting some Republican support. But what does
Speaker 3: it look like when you get outside of the Republican
Speaker 3: community and you're interacting with Let's say, I won't call
Speaker 3: them the enemy because you need every vote, but the
Speaker 3: Democrats are the unaffiliated, the independent. You know, what kind
Speaker 3: of feedback are you getting?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you hearing the same message across different party lines
Speaker 3: for where the state of Colorado is or we still
Speaker 3: a very divided state.
Speaker 6: No, I think I'm hearing it from all different areas
Speaker 6: because as a sheriff, I'm you know, I governed for
Speaker 6: both everyone. It doesn't matter who you are. And I think, really,
Speaker 6: in speaking with a lot of independence, a lot of
Speaker 6: unaffiliated here, their main concerns is, let's stop dealing with
Speaker 6: the social issues and let's start dealing with real issues
Speaker 6: that affect them on a daily basis. Everything from putting
Speaker 6: food on the table to putting gas in their cars
Speaker 6: and being able to get their cars on the roads.
Speaker 6: Those are the biggest issues I see. And they want
Speaker 6: to save Colorado and I think that's where a lot
Speaker 6: of them are working with me and Democrats are in
Speaker 6: the same boat. They feel like their party has just
Speaker 6: left them behind. They understand there's been a trifecta and
Speaker 6: for a long time now that really they feel ashamed
Speaker 6: of their own parties. And I think and I can
Speaker 6: understand that. I mean, really, you look at the state
Speaker 6: of Colado and Jared Polis's issues, and then some of
Speaker 6: the new candidates for the Democratic Party, they're not following
Speaker 6: what they're party even believes in in a lot of
Speaker 6: different ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a couple of Senate bills that
Speaker 3: just went through our House, Bills thirteen twelve, which is
Speaker 3: the Transgender Rights Bill, I think it's commonly known as that,
Speaker 3: and then Senate Bill three. I mean, those are two
Speaker 3: pretty extreme bills that kind of define this legislative session.
Speaker 3: But is that I mean, is that what's resonating out
Speaker 3: there with the public And what are your opinion on
Speaker 3: those two bills.
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing. I think everybody's seeing that, Hey,
Speaker 6: boys need to play boy sports, girls need to play
Speaker 6: girl sports. That's the way it is, and we need
Speaker 6: to respect that. And I think on the gun bill, listen,
Speaker 6: I'm a Second Amendment person. You and I and multiple
Speaker 6: others fought those bills in for a state in a
Speaker 6: legislature to tell sixty four counties and sixty four sheriffs
Speaker 6: that they don't care what they bring to the table.
Speaker 6: They don't care to have discussions with us, and they
Speaker 6: don't care to stakeholder with us. And they have talks
Speaker 6: and they did it anyways, against everyone that requested that
Speaker 6: they not. That tells you where our government has gone
Speaker 6: within Colorado, and it tells you we have no clear leadership.
Speaker 6: And that's what I need to bring to the table,
Speaker 6: is clear leadership, because I've done it so many times
Speaker 6: in Colorado's history.
Speaker 3: So on that topic of leadership, you know, it's going
Speaker 3: to take quite a few different candidates running for different offices,
Speaker 3: whether it be ag whether it be governor. You're going
Speaker 3: to kind of have to raise all waters. Do you
Speaker 3: think your campaign's building the momentum that it needs to
Speaker 3: help raise all waters? And do you see other folks
Speaker 3: jumping into those those other races that we need to
Speaker 3: see competitive folks in. I mean, quite frankly, just winning
Speaker 3: the governor's race isn't enough. Were you seeing things out
Speaker 3: on the horizon. Do we have a chance as a
Speaker 3: Republican Party?
Speaker 6: You know, I think it's going to be very difficult,
Speaker 6: I think, And here's the reason why I'm running for
Speaker 6: the governor position. You could run for another position and
Speaker 6: do well. But here's the problem I see without a
Speaker 6: governor to be able to veto things and stop what
Speaker 6: I call the bleed or the constant builds, because we
Speaker 6: still have another session to come through, even before another race,
Speaker 6: what comes next. So everybody's dealing with what's happening right now,
Speaker 6: and they're not thinking strategically about what happens in the
Speaker 6: future if we don't slow some of these things down.
Speaker 6: So you're absolutely right. The Attorney general's position is one
Speaker 6: of the main key pieces we have to be able
Speaker 6: to take, and there's nobody stepped up to run for
Speaker 6: that position yet. And if we don't take that, it's
Speaker 6: going to be awfully difficult to change or create the
Speaker 6: ability to go forth as Republicans and win seats. And
Speaker 6: I think that's one of my biggest concerns. You got
Speaker 6: to win enough Senate seats, bag, you gotta win enough
Speaker 6: House seats back. But we just got to get to
Speaker 6: where we can have an equal number if we can't
Speaker 6: just win them all.
Speaker 2: I know you have the law and order candidate.
Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot of issues out there
Speaker 3: when it deals with crime in Colorado. If you could
Speaker 3: make one change right now in the state of Colorado
Speaker 3: to affect what would that be.
Speaker 6: I hold criminals accountable. And you know, Steve, the biggest
Speaker 6: thing is for me, I'm also the business candidate. I'm
Speaker 6: the only candidate I believe in Colorado that's actually got
Speaker 6: the skills to build companies, build businesses, understand what that
Speaker 6: lifeblood is, and understand the law enforcement side what really
Speaker 6: needs to be given to law enforcement to succeed. But
Speaker 6: you've got to hold criminals accountable. And that's what I'll do.
Speaker 3: So in just a few seconds that we have left,
Speaker 3: people are going to want to know how to find
Speaker 3: more about you. Look at your pages. Where can folks
Speaker 3: find you out there on the interwebs, So.
Speaker 6: You can find me a Mike soul the number four
Speaker 6: gov dot com and that's Micsolfo gov dot com. Here's
Speaker 6: the other thing. If you just want to google my
Speaker 6: name and look at YouTube or in the other things,
Speaker 6: you'll see my leadership and action in multiple different news clips.
Speaker 6: You'll find me on social media sites and it's micol forgev.
Speaker 6: Also in anywhere you look, if you look at my name,
Speaker 6: you're going to find me.
Speaker 2: Well, give you.
Speaker 3: One last chance here to make a pitch to the public.
Speaker 3: You've got, you've got, you've got the mic.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Steve. And here's the thing. If you
Speaker 6: want a candidate that understands real business and understands how
Speaker 6: to get call right off the ground, and you want
Speaker 6: to see somebody that can really deal with crime and
Speaker 6: really love our law enforcement officers and first responders across
Speaker 6: the state, I'm your candidate and I think you you'll
Speaker 6: see that if you actually follow me.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for coming on the show again, Jason. I
Speaker 3: know it's a short segment that any anytime someone comes
Speaker 3: on the radio, but you package a lot of information
Speaker 3: into a short amount of time. And again, uh follow
Speaker 3: Jason on his social media pages or his website, and
Speaker 3: again we just appreciate you coming on the show. We'll
Speaker 3: cut to brake and we'll take some calls and some
Speaker 3: text messages in this last segment. But you're listening to
Speaker 3: the Dan Caplas Show here on six thirty k how
Speaker 3: with Well Kenny Sheriff. Steve brings.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Today and as the guest host on day two of
Speaker 3: two and we jumped right into the show to right
Speaker 3: from the word go. We had Ryan armagost On in
Speaker 3: that first segment kind of fighting back a little bit
Speaker 3: with the story that we had on yesterday from Rocky
Speaker 3: Mountain gun owners who took some shots at Ryan for
Speaker 3: the way they believe he handled his navigation of Senate
Speaker 3: Bill three down at the State House. So he had
Speaker 3: a chance to kind of push back a little bit
Speaker 3: and give his side of the story. And I guess
Speaker 3: you listeners out there can go to social media's and
Speaker 3: figure out which side of that debate you follow the
Speaker 3: most or which side you trust the most. But as
Speaker 3: I said earlier, today's kind of our Governor's candidate show.
Speaker 3: And you know, since we had twenty four governor's candidates
Speaker 3: in the state of Colorado, that's several days worth of radio.
Speaker 3: There's only twelve that are Republicans, but three Democrats and
Speaker 3: nine i'll just say others unaffiliated constitutional parties. And I
Speaker 3: won't go through the like Jo Exotic. Yeah, boy, wouldn't
Speaker 3: that be fun if we could get a Joe Exotic. Actually,
Speaker 3: you know there's a can it on here that's that's
Speaker 3: a Republican candidate that he ran a few years ago,
Speaker 3: and he's He's not a Joe exotic candidate, but he
Speaker 3: is a interesting guy that I had a chance to
Speaker 3: interact with at a at a debate, and I'm hoping
Speaker 3: that I can get him on the radio at some
Speaker 3: point because if nothing else, our exchanges will be entertaining.
Speaker 3: But I'm not sure if he'll take my call. But
Speaker 3: I'm going to go through the list of candidates here
Speaker 3: and you can raise your hand out there in the
Speaker 3: listening audience if you know any of them. Oh and
Speaker 3: by the way, if you want to text in and
Speaker 3: give your feedback on the ones we've heard so far,
Speaker 3: which is Alexander who got to and Jason Mike's Ol,
Speaker 3: the sheriff down in Teller County, feel free to text in.
Speaker 3: We have gotten one text in reference to someone they
Speaker 3: would like to see nominated, and that's Dan Kaplis. Seems
Speaker 3: like every time we talk about governor's candidates, his name
Speaker 3: pops up, and that's from our wonderful listener, Alexa. But
Speaker 3: the other candidates we have here on the Republican side,
Speaker 3: we're going to have Mark Baisley and Scott Bottoms on
Speaker 3: in the next hour, but we have a Jason Clark,
Speaker 3: we have a Bryson Garrison, Steve An Guess, John Gray Ginsburg,
Speaker 3: my buddy that I've interacted with before, Joshua Griffin, Greg Lopez,
Speaker 3: which I believe made his announcement on your show. If
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, I did. And then we have a
Speaker 3: William or will McBride. We had Jason on, Jason Michel,
Speaker 3: we had Alexander who got to and I think the
Speaker 3: last one on here is Jim Runberg. And I have
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, there's only four of those
Speaker 3: people now, five that I know after talking to alex
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see if we can get
Speaker 3: the other four on. Like I said, I shouldn't say
Speaker 3: that I do know John Greg Ginsburg from a previous
Speaker 3: interaction entertaining guy. I'll say that, So we'll see how
Speaker 3: that goes. Yeah, I'm concerned for the state of Colorado
Speaker 3: because I think we have gone so far to the
Speaker 3: left that something has to pull back to the right.
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that one of these uh, one of
Speaker 3: these candidates finds lightning in a bottle. Heck, I'm hoping
Speaker 3: Dan Kaplis still jumps into the race, and I hope
Speaker 3: the listeners are encouraging that as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 8: There are some listeners and I won't mention any names,
Speaker 8: but mine my name, Ryan Schuling, that would love to
Speaker 8: see a sheriff Steve Reem's candidacy for governor.
Speaker 2: What say, you hold your breath and I'll die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I appreciate that, Ryan, you know, is as
Speaker 3: much as I've enjoyed my life in politics, to the
Speaker 3: extent that I've been involved in politics, I was always
Speaker 3: drawn to being a law enforcement guy. Being a sheriff was,
Speaker 3: you know, as a necessary evil to go through politics.
Speaker 3: And I've learned a lot. I've met a lot of
Speaker 3: fantastic folks in the political life. I've met some that
Speaker 3: I wish I hadn't met. Yeah, But quite frankly, I'm
Speaker 3: tired of asking people for money and for support, and
Speaker 3: I want to help candidates to get elected. I want
Speaker 3: to help those good candidates. So if we find that
Speaker 3: person that you know is catching lightning in bottle, I'll
Speaker 3: be with them one hundred and fifty percent. We just
Speaker 3: got to get that right person. And quite frankly, the
Speaker 3: people in the Bolder don't like me very much.
Speaker 8: So that's part for the course, I'm sure I'm not
Speaker 8: very big in Boulder either. That's a different crowd, different
Speaker 8: audience for the most part, although there are a few
Speaker 8: except there's a few, John Caldera being one of the
Speaker 8: I don't know how he continues to live there, but
Speaker 8: God love him. I would say that ground Game Organization.
Speaker 8: I've gone to one of the Colorado GOP breakfasts. I
Speaker 8: believe it might have been the first since bread of
Speaker 8: Horn came aboard his chair. Heidi Ganaal helped hosting that.
Speaker 8: Heidi's very good behind the scenes. Of course, she was
Speaker 8: the candidate for governor last time around. And I think
Speaker 8: the energy it's something the sheriff Mike's will touched on.
Speaker 2: It's there.
Speaker 7: It's just a matter of.
Speaker 8: Tapping into it and getting it focused and redirected. We
Speaker 8: live in a state where we have to get the persuadables.
Speaker 8: That's just all there is to it. We could turn
Speaker 8: out every Republican voter, it still wouldn't be enough to
Speaker 8: overcome the advantage Democrats have built in between registered Democrats
Speaker 8: and unaffiliated to buy and large lane left exactly so
Speaker 8: you get those persuadables that are disaffected with this recent
Speaker 8: thirteen twelve being passed with their Second Amendment rights being
Speaker 8: a fringe upon, you know, those kind of common sense,
Speaker 8: common ground issues.
Speaker 7: That's how I would distill it.
Speaker 3: I think you're I think you hit the nail on
Speaker 3: the head. And you know crime has affected everyone in Colorado.
Speaker 3: I don't care where you go, you can't help, but
Speaker 3: notice what is going on in Colorado, and I think
Speaker 3: that that leans that issue, leans towards the you know
Speaker 3: Republican fixes more often than not, as you've seen from
Speaker 3: our state legislature. But you hit the nail on the
Speaker 3: head too with a house built thirteen twelve. I think
Speaker 3: when you have moms that get activated and dads for
Speaker 3: a large degree too, But when you start attacking parental rights,
Speaker 3: that activates a whole other segment that if you can
Speaker 3: resonate with that segment, I think there's a chance to
Speaker 3: there's a chance to find a pathway for a Republican
Speaker 3: to be successful. Although I do think it's a very
Speaker 3: narrow path. I think someone can navigate it if they
Speaker 3: have the right ground game and they can activate those
Speaker 3: those baseline voters.
Speaker 2: Do we think could be that guy?
Speaker 8: Well, Dan's got a lot of cachet and I can
Speaker 8: talk about him when he's not here, but I would
Speaker 8: say this to him if he asked. But he's got
Speaker 8: the name recognition, right. I think he has the credibility.
Speaker 8: He's done good work in this state on behalf of
Speaker 8: victims of large accidents. He has I think a platform
Speaker 8: in this show that he's been reaching people for years.
Speaker 8: So I think he has a lot of built in
Speaker 8: kind of no brainer advantages in addition to the fact
Speaker 8: that he's doing pretty well from his law firm and
Speaker 8: from a financial standpoint. Plus, I think it's not just
Speaker 8: that I think Dan would be adept at being able
Speaker 8: to secure a donor money that's bick. He and I
Speaker 8: have talked about that independent of him. But a candidate
Speaker 8: has to give the party nationally the belief that we
Speaker 8: can win here, and that's a big obstacle. That has
Speaker 8: been a big hurdle in raising money for our campaign
Speaker 8: statewide well.
Speaker 3: And I think you know the secondary piece to that
Speaker 3: we keep talking about does the Republican Party build the
Speaker 3: candidate or does the candidate helps stand the Republican Party backup.
Speaker 3: You know, we've kind of been in ambles as a
Speaker 3: Republican party. I say we because I'm part of it
Speaker 3: as a Republican party in this state. But a good
Speaker 3: candidate raises all waters. And if we can just find
Speaker 3: that person to help help raise the water, you know,
Speaker 3: I think it's a it's good for all of us
Speaker 3: and good for the people of Colorado. So when we
Speaker 3: come back in segment two, well jump back into this
Speaker 3: conversation and get a couple more candidates up. But right
Speaker 3: now you're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show with Well
Speaker 3: Kenny Sheriff Steve Reams as your guest host.