WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.879 edition of The Dankplas Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.199 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:15.919 Welcome to the Dan Caples Show. 7 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.399 This is day two of two with Will kiny Shaff 8 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:20.719 Steve Reams setting in as a guest host, and we're 9 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.800 going to get right to the show today. There's not 10 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:25.960 a more appropriate lead in than that a little bit 11 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.280 of boxing metaphor in Dan's lineup, because yesterday we had 12 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.119 Dudley Brown with Rocky Mountain Gun Owners taking a few 13 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.799 shots at Ryan Armagust out of HD sixty four, and 14 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.000 with us today we have Ryan Armagost to kind of 15 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.320 throw a few punches back, and Ryan's on the line. 16 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.799 Ryan, how are you doing good? 17 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:44.159 Triff? 18 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:44.600 How are you doing? 19 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:45.719 I'm doing great. Ryan. 20 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:47.799 I'm sure you heard a little bit of the audio 21 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:49.439 from yesterday, and I know you've seen some of the 22 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.039 stuff that was posted on social media from the Rocky 23 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:55.159 Mountain Gun Owners. You know they posted some of your 24 00:00:55.399 --> 00:01:01.039 TikTok TikTok videos in addition to some statements that they're 25 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:04.000 making about your work down at the State House, especially 26 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.879 in reference to Senate Bill III. What do you have 27 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:07.640 in response to that? 28 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:13.959 Well, I think, first and foremost the attacks are unprovoked 29 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:17.480 and unnecessary. I think it's just these are things that 30 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:21.359 should be happening face to face, blind closed doors, where 31 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.400 we can resolve issues, rather than make it public and 32 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:30.040 further dividing not only the Republicans, but dividing the two 33 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.200 A community. And that's what I think. We need to 34 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.560 work harder at uniting and staying united in that, not 35 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.120 trying to find a wedge to drive in between them. 36 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.599 And right now I'm being created as that wedge. 37 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.120 Okay, So some of the content that was put outs, 38 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:46.640 you know, I had in reference to some emails that 39 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.280 you had sent out to your constituents. One of them, 40 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.239 I'm just going to read a quote here just to 41 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.959 get a response from you. I'm still proud to represent 42 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:58.400 our gun rights, for our caucus and for Colorado with 43 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:00.200 all the other two A advocates, they take the fight 44 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.400 to the capital, not to the doorstep of legislators and 45 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.040 their families. If somebody came to my doorstep like that, 46 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.040 my family would show them what the Second Amendment is 47 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.439 all about. I think that's I think that's kind of 48 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.439 where from what I understand, it caught the ire of 49 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.280 the Rocky Mountain gun owners. Can you explain what that 50 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.000 statement means and kind of what your intent was with that. 51 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.520 Yeah, basically this is something I'd told to them as 52 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.400 well before I made that statement, But it's something that 53 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:30.840 really just the accusations that were made toward them were 54 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.479 that they were visiting the homes of family members while 55 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:37.879 the legislators were at work, And to me, that was intimidation. 56 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.159 If that was happening to my family, I'd be pretty upset. 57 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:43.159 All right, so are you? 58 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.080 And I'm not trying to put you on the spot here, Ryan, 59 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:47.919 but I guess in a little way I am. Are 60 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:50.400 you saying the appropriate response to those kind of knocks 61 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.199 on the door is with a gun in hand? 62 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:52.639 Or you? 63 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.599 Just what's the intent of that post? 64 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.280 Me and Sam was just simply that it would make 65 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.919 me and credit upset if I was the legislator that 66 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:02.240 that was. 67 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.080 Happening to my family. 68 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:05.400 I know my I would not want my family to 69 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.919 feel threatened being at home because they're they're married to 70 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:11.479 a legislator. Or the children of a legislator. I think 71 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:12.680 that's wholly inappropriate. 72 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.719 Okay, Well, and the accusation yesterday was that from the 73 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.520 Rocky Mountain Gun Owners was that you had basically offered 74 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:23.080 a relief valve to the Democrats. I think you'd argue 75 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.879 that you had four Democrats that were potentially going to 76 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:30.360 vote against Senate Bill III, and that when you approach 77 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.639 these folks in the in the well of the House 78 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:37.039 and kind of you know, I guess spoke down about 79 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.360 the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners tactics, it gave them a 80 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:42.439 relief valve to vote against the bill. Do you do 81 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.479 you see the same thing there? And do you really 82 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.719 do you believe you had enough votes to kill the bill? 83 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:47.199 Uh? 84 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:49.039 Walk walk us through that? 85 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.400 No, and I don't think we will. That's wholly inaccurate. 86 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.360 And I don't think we would have had the votes 87 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.840 to kill the bill anyway, But there are definitely two 88 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:59.639 votes that we could have had that would have been 89 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:03.159 at least a closer situation. And the thing that I 90 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.960 did with those legislators that I knew were either flipping 91 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.120 their vote from where they were in committee to the 92 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.319 House floor, I saw potential in it So I contacted 93 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.079 them initially, just hey, are you still going to be 94 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.160 an on this where you at? And they said, I'm 95 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.519 not feeling the same as I was before. So that's 96 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.040 where that ended up. That's where it started. But it's 97 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.759 getting turned into something of speculation, which is again more 98 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.680 divisive than anything else. Rather than coming to me, all 99 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.879 anyone has to do is talk to me. That people 100 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:35.920 know my email. If not, they can go to Pharmacaust 101 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.199 sixty four dot com and find my email and reach out. 102 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.560 That's fact, to get the facts from the source, not 103 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:42.879 from speculation or organizations. 104 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:44.399 So I don't want to I'm. 105 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.160 Not putting words in your mouth, but I assume that 106 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.480 you and the Rocky Mountain gun owners have had no 107 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:52.000 official talks. When I say Rocky Mountain gun owners, the 108 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.680 Dudley Browns, the Ian Escalantes, you guys have had no 109 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:57.639 face to face talks since the end of session or 110 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:02.000 since this bill passed. Correct, So what is your message 111 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.040 to the gun owners out there of you know, I mean, 112 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:08.839 this is your messaging where are we at on Senate 113 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.720 Bill three or what's your stance even as it pertains 114 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.800 to these gun rights advocates, whether it be Rocky Mountain 115 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.399 gun owners in ra A, well, what's your message to 116 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:18.240 the voters out there. 117 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.759 I think the biggest thing is, especially with Senate Bill three, 118 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.360 that was just, I mean a huge, huge slap in 119 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.040 the face to any gun owner out there. That bill 120 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.480 is from where it began to what it morphed into 121 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.920 over and over again, and every time it was read, 122 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.439 it turned into something horrendous for more horrendous every time 123 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.800 it was read. But it eventually became something that the 124 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.000 governor wanted and we just then realized, holy cow, this 125 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.800 might actually pass. And when it did, I think everyone 126 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.839 in the two A community was definitely quick to point 127 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:53.959 of finger It's kind of natural, it's the way things 128 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.079 have been for a long time. But this year we 129 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.199 it felt like we were much more united, but there 130 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.720 was still a lot of finger pointing. I think instead 131 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.480 everyone should have just taken the punch to the jaw, 132 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.120 you know, rub some dirt on it, and then said 133 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:07.759 let's get back up and get back in the fight. 134 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:10.560 I think this is just something that's going to now 135 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.680 have to be challenged. But unfortunately this isn't this isn't 136 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.120 the beginning, but it's definitely not going to be the 137 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.639 end on the attack from the Democrats and our gun 138 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:20.360 rights for sure. 139 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.879 I understand that. So, Ryan, we only have about thirty 140 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.720 seconds left. I'll give you the last opportunity here, give 141 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.839 you the last word to make a messaging to your 142 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.519 voters out there. You know you're representing HD sixty four. 143 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.319 Finished with your final word too. 144 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.240 Okay, Yeah, I just I got to like that to 145 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.720 represent how Sister fifty four are not a political organization. 146 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.040 You know, when we win, when we work together, we 147 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.399 need ever conservative voice of the table make a difference 148 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.800 in the minority. That means finding common ground. I remain 149 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:54.399 committed to working with anyone who shares the same ideology 150 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:58.319 of supporting our law abiding citizens, supporting our gun rights, 151 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.879 and otherwise supporting public safety and the needs of our 152 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.439 state of Colorado to get it back to where it 153 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.439 used to be. We didn't get here overnight. We're not 154 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:07.839 going to get out of it overnight. But we need 155 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:09.319 to stick together to make it happen. 156 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:10.040 That's fair. 157 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:12.759 Thank you for coming on the show. Ryan, I'm sorry 158 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.279 this is such a short segment, but we had the 159 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.519 show booked. But thank you for coming on and giving 160 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.399 a reply to the interview from yesterday, we're going to 161 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.160 cut the break in again thanks to Ryan Armagos from 162 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.439 HD sixty four and you're listening to the Dan Capla 163 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.240 Show with Well Kenny Sheriff, Steve Rms. 164 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:37.639 And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast Steve. 165 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.120 Reams sitting in. Sitting in as your guest host. Didn't 166 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:41.600 get a chance to set this up as much as 167 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.360 I wanted to in that first segment, but this is 168 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.959 going to be our candidate for Governor's Show, and in 169 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.879 full transparency, this first candidate that we're going to speak 170 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.079 to is not a person that I've ever met personally. 171 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:53.480 And I just started basically going through the list of 172 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.399 twenty four candidates in the state of Colorado that are 173 00:07:56.439 --> 00:08:00.680 running for the seat for governor, twelve of those being Republicans. 174 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:02.519 And so when I started going through the list, I 175 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.000 found this next person's. 176 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.040 Facebook page pretty easy. 177 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.560 I reached out to this individual and he was very responsive, 178 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.959 and that person is Alex. Got to Alex, are you 179 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:13.959 on the line with us? 180 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:15.560 I am Alex. 181 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:17.399 Tell us a little bit about yourself and what made 182 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.879 you decide to jump in the race for Colorado governor 183 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:21.720 as a Republican? 184 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:23.959 Sure, sure, Thanks for having me, Steve. 185 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.639 I'm Alex Mugatu. 186 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:32.159 I'm a born and raised public Natives. Their generation probably 187 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.879 the most distinguishing aspect of me. As far as I know, 188 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:38.000 I'm the only millennial in this race. For what it's worth, Okay, 189 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.639 what what I jumped into the race for. You know, 190 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.960 I have some genuine concerns, as as many people do, 191 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:49.080 with the direction of the state, and I have even 192 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:54.639 more concerns with the direction of the way that the parties, 193 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:58.519 the Republican Party has has been going in recent years. 194 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.399 I think that there needs to be a serious come 195 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.720 to Jesus moment with the way that we actually look 196 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:10.000 at governing in Colorado. And as a as a business 197 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:15.799 owner myself, I bring a different a different mentality when 198 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:17.799 it comes to leadership, and I think I bring a 199 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.960 different some very different ideas when it comes to governing itself. 200 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.919 Some of the things that that i'mp me to jump 201 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.840 into this race, you know, I'm passionate about certain issues, 202 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:35.639 namely property rights and our constitutional rights, and I think 203 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.679 that you know, every day that we've witnessed this past 204 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.720 legislative session, it's just not looking good. Regardless of the 205 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:48.519 kind of representation that we have in the legislature right now. 206 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:55.039 So property rights is key to restoring the Colorado promise 207 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.480 that was based in our American dream. And I'd like 208 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.360 to have the Colorado that at our parents and grandparents 209 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:04.000 essentially built for us. 210 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:04.440 Sure. 211 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.279 So, Alex, you mentioned that you're a small business owner. 212 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.120 What is your business background? And also I'll just add 213 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:12.679 on to that so you can kind of go with it. 214 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:15.720 He said that you're kind of new to the political 215 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.799 field as far as running for office. Do you have 216 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.240 you been involved in Republican politics down in Pueblo. Uh, 217 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.480 you know, I'm on the other end of the state. So, 218 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.279 like I said, we haven't had a chance to get 219 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:27.120 to meet. So this is the time for you to 220 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:28.320 educate the voters on all that. 221 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:29.440 Sure. 222 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.679 So, actually, I'm I'm not I'm not new to to 223 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.080 our political scene. I've actually been at this for for 224 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:40.440 quite a while, mainly in Pueblo County. I've been a 225 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:46.559 Republican candidate for the legislature several several times there there 226 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:51.320 have been primaries, you know, the way that the party 227 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:56.080 runs in our nominating processes. Uh, other other people have 228 00:10:56.159 --> 00:11:00.960 different ideas and you know, I get taken out in 229 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.000 a primary, so that that's kind of where where my 230 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.399 background is. I'll go on to say that that every 231 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:08.840 one of those candidates that defeated me in a primary 232 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.279 did go on to lose a general election. So nobody 233 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.600 really knows what the voters are going to do. But uh, 234 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.039 you know, that's that's just kind of my background. I've 235 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:18.799 been at this for a for a long time here 236 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.120 or not because I'm facing a political title, but because 237 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:25.159 I want to see some change in our state. My 238 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.559 business background, I I'm the uh I'm the owner and 239 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.720 CEO of of Icon Asylum Entertainment, which which was a 240 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.919 company that I established in two thousand and five when 241 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.799 I was kind of goofing off in uh Fort Collins 242 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.000 during my college years. And what that what that was 243 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.879 was essentially a sports entertainment company with the flash and 244 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.720 slambuoyance of UH pro wrestling in mm A, mixed martial 245 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:54.039 arts and whatnot. We tried to uh come back to Pueblo, 246 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:57.799 you know, with with big dreams I guess of taking 247 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:01.120 my hometown by storm, and I I ran into politics 248 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.399 and that's really where I started to get my foot 249 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.000 into the door here is I discovered real quick that 250 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.320 everything is so political in Pueblo County and I'm sure 251 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:14.200 across the state that it just wasn't a good business 252 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:18.759 environment for young entrepreneurs to to get themselves established in 253 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.679 Colorado anymore. So that's that's kind of where where we're 254 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:27.639 going with that. Then covid HIT and being a sports 255 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:32.600 entertainment promotions at event promotions company, when Jared Polis decided 256 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.120 he wanted to implement a mass ban on a ban 257 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.279 on MAS gatherings, well, I mean if that that had 258 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:41.519 an effect on ticket sales, so. 259 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.480 I can't imagine that was good for the business model. Yeah, 260 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:46.000 it was not. 261 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.440 So we're trying to rebuild, but in the meantime, we 262 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:51.440 want to see some some things change in Colorado. 263 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:51.840 Sure. 264 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.759 So you know, every candidate tends to have a few 265 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.320 pillars in there in there, you know, for for their candidacy. 266 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:00.720 You talked about property, right, it's what are some other 267 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.080 things that if given the chance to represent the state 268 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.720 of Colorado as a Republican candidate or even as a 269 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.000 Republican governor, what are the other things that you would 270 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:10.559 you would find yourself focusing on. 271 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.159 So, you know, I think that I think where Republicans 272 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:19.039 have gone wrong is we've kind of let the Democrat 273 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:22.120 Party kind of kind of trademark the term progressive, even 274 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.039 though we've we've seen a lot of regressive policy coming 275 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:27.919 out of the Gold Dome. We we've kind of let 276 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.720 them trademark that for their own and really that's been 277 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.679 to our own detriment. For for my property rights issue, 278 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.159 one of my main staples on that is on the 279 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:42.080 candidate that's known for for wanting to abolish residential property 280 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.639 tax in Colorado, I think that that's something we can do. 281 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.159 I think that that we shouldn't be forced to spend 282 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.600 a lifetime leasing our own the pursuit of our own 283 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.600 happiness from our government in order to keep it. And 284 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.879 you know, once once you buy it, it should be 285 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:02.200 yours for life. I think that energy independence, that we're 286 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.840 having a big issue with energy, especially down here in Publo. 287 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:10.200 We just ran a ballot measure, an unnecessary ballot measure, 288 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.559 where the city wanted to basically take over Black Hills 289 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:19.360 Energy is infrastructure and create a municipal a municipal energy company. 290 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:21.759 It got shot down, so now we have to go 291 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.240 back to the drawing table. I think that we can 292 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:29.039 open up Colorado to a free market energy economy and 293 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.919 let people decide who powers their homes and their businesses. 294 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.559 So when it comes to the infrastructure of Colorado, where 295 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.639 do you think we stand as a state? I mean, 296 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.440 I know where we rank as a state. I think 297 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.080 we're forty seven out of fifty if I'm not mistaken. 298 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.399 But what would be your plans as a governor or 299 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.440 governor's candidate for addressing the infrastructure woes that are Colorado? 300 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.639 Sure? I mean I've seen I do a lot of traveling, Steve, 301 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.480 and I've seen two thousand year old cobblestone roads that 302 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.919 are smoother drides than Colorado roads. You know, as the 303 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:08.639 infrastructure is key to creating a strong economy. You have 304 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:13.799 solid infrastructure, you bring in business opportunity, you bring in jobs, 305 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.559 opportunities it you know, the sky's the limit there. So 306 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.440 as far as as far as governor, that's where I 307 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.799 would be focusing on. We had a candidate forum last 308 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.559 Thursday in Longmont, and of course I left Pueblo at 309 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.559 two thirty in the afternoon. There was a drive that 310 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.799 should have taken me two hours to get to Longmont, 311 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.600 and I got there a quarter to six, just before 312 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.360 the event started. And you know, I think with what 313 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:42.120 we're seeing here with the population growth, the I twenty 314 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.720 five from Fillmore and Colorado Springs all the way up 315 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:48.559 to north the northern the northern part of the metro, 316 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.759 the I twenty five was basically a parking lot. I 317 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.960 think that the growth and population is not sustainable with 318 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.399 the infrastructure that we have, and we need to really 319 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:03.399 focus on on expanding it from water from water infrastructure, 320 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:09.000 energy infrastructure, improving our roads and highways, providing additional options 321 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:13.399 for routing on roads and highways. There needs to be 322 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:20.200 some significant investment in both time and energy to focusing 323 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.120 on expanding our infrastructure. 324 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.720 And I didn't hear you mention any kind of railway 325 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:28.159 from Pueblo to Fort Collins, So that's probably a positive 326 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:33.200 in your candidacy. Just to reset, we have Alex Mugatu 327 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.960 on with us here on the show. He's a candidate 328 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.159 for governor here in Colorado, Republican. You just kind of 329 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:42.759 highlighting some of your stances, you know, again going back 330 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.279 to some of the things that I think are red 331 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.200 meat Republican issues. What's your stance on let's say Second 332 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.879 Amendment issues. We just had one of the most egregious 333 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.320 gun bills passed in the state of Colorado and Senate 334 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.799 Bill IREI, where do you stand on something like that? 335 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.320 Right well, I mean, obviously as a as a red 336 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:03.960 blooded American here, our country was founded based off of 337 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.279 a tax grievance and and we needed to be able 338 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.240 to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Not saying that 339 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.400 we're at that point yet, but right now, the way 340 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:18.759 that that Colorado is looking after the last census and 341 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.200 the redistricting process, I mean, we basically have what six 342 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.319 or seven counties call on the shots for for for 343 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.960 an entire state here. You know, two A is a 344 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.920 big issue for me. I'm I'm a strong proponent of 345 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.839 self governance. I'm a strong proponent of home ruld jurisdiction. 346 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.400 I'm kind of liking what I'm seeing coming out of 347 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:45.000 Douglas County right now. I wish that that all counties 348 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.400 that aren't home rule counties would would jump onto that 349 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.839 bandwagon and try to protect themselves from from overreach at 350 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.160 the state level. As far as the Senate Bill three, 351 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.079 which was in my opinion, I mean, I'm sure it's 352 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:02.079 an opinion shared by many. It was an egregious overreach, 353 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.559 constitutional violation, and I hope that it does get overturned 354 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.440 in the court, but I think that this is actually 355 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:10.519 something that's going to have to be overturned by the 356 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:11.400 people themselves. 357 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.200 Okay, Alex was just about twenty seconds left. What's your website? 358 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:16.119 How can people find you? 359 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:17.000 Sure? 360 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:20.400 You can find me at Alex Mugatu mug a tu 361 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:25.240 dot com and you can send a message a member 362 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.759 of the If I don't get the message myself, one 363 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.839 of our team members will get it and I'll get 364 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:32.319 in touch with you. 365 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:32.880 All right, thank you. 366 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.680 You're listening to the Dan Capless Show here with well 367 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.440 Kenny Shriff Steve Riams as a guest host. 368 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:50.599 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show Podcastle's. 369 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.599 Show with Well Kenny Shriff Steve Riams setting in the 370 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.279 driver's seat today day two of two. And just to 371 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.599 remind the listeners what we're doing here today, we've got 372 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.799 kind of a governor's show today, governor candidate Show. I 373 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.440 guess I should say, as I mentioned in the earlier segment, 374 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.720 there's twenty four candidates running for the governor in the 375 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.200 state of Colorado, twelve that are Republicans, So we're going 376 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.160 to cover four of them today and if I get 377 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:12.880 a chance to cover in the future, we'll try to 378 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.039 get to another four and then maybe hopefully, hopefully the 379 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.000 last four unless more jump in. And we've already had 380 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.279 a few texts talking about some other potential candidates. But 381 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.279 if you want to text in the numbers five, seven, seven, 382 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:25.880 three nine. We'll also take calls in the last segment, 383 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.799 which is you can call in at three oh three seven, one, three, eight, 384 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.519 two five five. But lit's without further ado. Let's get 385 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.720 to our next candidate, which is the sheriff of Teller County. 386 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.920 I know this individual pretty well. Jason Michael, how you doing. 387 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:40.480 I'm doing good. Steve, how are you doing? 388 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.279 I'm doing great. Doing something other than sheriff and and 389 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.160 I got to tell you it's a whole lot more fun. 390 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:47.759 But you're doing something other than sheriff in a little 391 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.279 bit too. You're running for governor and this is your 392 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.640 second time on the show with me. But tell us 393 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:55.200 a little bit about your campaign platform. How are things going? 394 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.880 And uh, you know, where are you finding energy out 395 00:19:57.880 --> 00:19:58.759 in the state of Colorado. 396 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.319 Well, you know, see the energies everywhere everybody wants to change. 397 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.039 I'm seeing that so many different places. And you know, 398 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.799 I'm a little bit different than the other candidates. Most 399 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.799 people don't know that. I've been an entrepreneur and businessman 400 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.480 for many years. I've scaled companies and I have multiple 401 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.559