WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:05.639 Streamy Live on the Ihearts Radio, while this is I 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:20.440 on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox sportsporteen fifty. 3 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.120 Hey, welcome back to Trying the Ball here Fox Sports 4 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.640 fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rovera, and today with me is 5 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:33.320 Jim Monco. Great talking to everybody. Great talking to you. 6 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.840 Coach Ryan was very good. Yeah, very good. He already 7 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:37.759 texted you same thing. 8 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:38.240 Yeah. 9 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:42.240 Yeah. We were talking about something and again I need 10 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.439 to write my stuff down. We're talking about coaching philosophies 11 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:47.359 and things like that. Oh I know, how long did 12 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:47.759 you coach? 13 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:50.640 A total of thirty five years? 14 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.159 Okay, So I'm gonna ask an honest question or a 15 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.799 serious question, but you know your honesty will be depending. 16 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.240 Did you know when you were playing in season that 17 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:01.439 a team or players. 18 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:03.920 Had given up on you? Absolutely? 19 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.760 What did you How did you find out or how 20 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:08.400 did you sense it? And what did you do? 21 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:10.079 Realistically? 22 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:16.079 You you can see it body language, how they're working 23 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:20.519 in the weight room. You never have so much teams 24 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.879 give up. It's it's players and usually it's the guys 25 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:28.239 you count on the most right, right, How I handled 26 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.000 it as I played somebody else? 27 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.159 And how did that fix it didn't fix it. 28 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.799 It didn't always. It didn't always. 29 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.239 A lot of times you had a parent knocking on 30 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.359 your door the next time saying, why isn't Billy Joe playing? 31 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:43.079 And it's like, because his attitude stinks, and and if 32 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.000 I'm gonna lose a game, I'm gonna lose a game 33 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:47.280 with a kid that's gonna work his tail off for me, 34 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:52.400 and not only that, but maybe get better so that I. 35 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:53.480 Can count on him. 36 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.920 Right, So didn't so if it did, indeed, fact turn 37 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.280 how was he the next time? 38 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:06.159 Sometimes it turned out for the better they understood. I 39 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:13.000 think sometimes athletes want to push their code right. You 40 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.919 have to be as consistent as possible with your words. 41 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.520 If you say you're five minutes, If you're not here 42 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.840 on time, and then the star quarterback comes in at 43 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:28.319 at you know, five oh three, he better be rolling 44 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.439 or everybody else is going to be like, so why 45 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:31.199 can he get away? 46 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:31.960 Right? Right? 47 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:33.479 So you have to be consistent. 48 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:35.280 I see that a lot. I see that a lot. Well, 49 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:37.159 I shouldn't say I see that anymore, but I used 50 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.879 to see that a lot. And you're thinking, oh, that's 51 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:43.159 not a good move because you look for this guy 52 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.400 for that guy, YadA YadA, and the kids remember that, 53 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.879 they remember that they do, they do, and they turn 54 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:51.080 That's when they turn on you. 55 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:52.919 Yeah, you know, I've said that to a bunch of times. 56 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:53.800 Kids aren't stupid. 57 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.319 They get it and they understand that if you if 58 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.000 you love them and you punish them, that that you're 59 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:02.439 not just doing it to be the ross. 60 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:04.879 So this is the thing that I had an issue 61 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.080 with with then I would I would tell Jenny this 62 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.599 all the time, and he brought it up to me 63 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:10.199 all the time because I brought it up so much. 64 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:15.240 Jim Monico is the quarterback. He's getting fifty thousand dollars 65 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.319 every half, half season or whatever. Steve Rivera's is blocking 66 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.479 fromm at the center, I'm getting ten. How do you 67 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.879 think that would sit because I'm creating holes for you, Jim. 68 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.199 I was a center, so I'd be pissed off right now. 69 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:34.000 No, No, you know what I'm saying. Yes, it's not equitable, 70 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.560 and I know life isn't fair, and I'll be the 71 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:38.280 first to admit that. I don't even use the word 72 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.039 because I don't believe in it. But how do you 73 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.439 how do you figure that out? 74 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:50.759 Steve? I don't know. I wish I knew. It's not fair. 75 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:55.439 And that guy who takes Hey, listen, we all understand, right, 76 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.800 the quarterbacks, the guy he leads, you know. And I've 77 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.080 had a couple that you just go, they'll come in 78 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.240 and lift with the offensive linemen because they've got to 79 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:06.919 love you, right. 80 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:07.400 Yeah. 81 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.719 My middle son, Jimmy, played for Phil Longo at LaSalle University. 82 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:11.439 Was his head coach. 83 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.080 Now we'll see a Wisconsin but he always said that 84 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.000 when when Jimmy got on his trip, he's like the 85 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.399 old lion's picking him up. Yeah, because they've got to 86 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:22.319 want to bust their necks for this kid. And I 87 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:26.279 think it becomes very, very jaded when you have a 88 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.560 kid up front that's just taking an absolute beaten and 89 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.439 this guy's in the pocket that he's creating, right, and 90 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:37.480 he's not making close to what he makes. I don't, 91 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.639 Honest to god, I couldn't tell you because I just 92 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.519 think it's unfair. I couldn't run a team like that. 93 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.560 That's maybe why I wouldn't get the top quarterback in 94 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:44.360 the country. 95 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.560 Right right, No, it's very difficult. I'm sure in a 96 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.800 lot of the well you saw Tony Bennett right, he quit. 97 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.160 I mean, come on, he's fifty four years old. Whatever 98 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.079 party has more money than he needs. But you don't 99 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:56.519 get to do what you want to do because of 100 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:57.199 the situation. 101 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:58.120 Absolutely. 102 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.879 I mean, I don't know of a man who's been 103 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:02.399 more or fair to himself than that. How can you say, 104 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.120 I don't think I'm gonna be good at this. I 105 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.399 got to get out absolutely right. And I know I 106 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.160 wouldn't have been good like I told you earlier. 107 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.360 Right, God knows what he's doing, because I could never 108 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.920 re recruit, forget the nil. I could never re recruit 109 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.240 my kids, right, and I go here I'm talking about. 110 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.040 I think it's a better situation. Wow, I mean, I 111 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.000 just I couldn't do that. So that that's why I 112 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:27.800 got out of the right place. 113 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.920 So I asked you about a coach, about what makes 114 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.680 a good coach, what makes a good. 115 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:36.720 Player, somebody who has character, work, ethic. 116 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:39.519 See, I you know the kids, you said say to 117 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.000 me all the time, I'm gonna I'm gonna run four 118 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:41.920 four next year. 119 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.519 I say, you know, I'm Jim, not Jesus. 120 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.160 Let's let's try to help you out right, I said, 121 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.839 But I can't make you six four if you're five eleven, 122 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:54.040 but I can make you better at your craft. That 123 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:58.160 player that has that work ethic and character has credibility. 124 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.519 You know, when we would rec fruit kids, it was very, 125 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.000 very difficult at the JC level because you just didn't 126 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.319 have the budget that some JC is like like at 127 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.439 Western and Eastern and Snow had right and they would 128 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:10.680 fly all over the country. 129 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:12.600 We had it. We did it on our own dime. 130 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.519 And you know, we would recruit kids and you want 131 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:18.600 to see how they interact with your parents. You want 132 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:20.800 to see how the coach talks about him. And I 133 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:22.680 would even sit down and after a coach would tell 134 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.560 me all about this kid who is the greatest kid 135 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.920 he's ever coached in his life. I said, then why 136 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:27.800 is he coming to Pima? 137 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:28.519 Yeah? 138 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.040 You know, and I wanted to hear that. Sure was 139 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.600 it because you felt he wasn't developed enough. It was 140 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.199 his his grades weren't where they should be. Did he 141 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.920 not get the offers? But you're telling me this kid's unbelievable, 142 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:41.759 So why am I getting them? 143 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:43.120 You know, how is he is? 144 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:43.240 He? 145 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.879 And I would even talk to the teammates, you know, 146 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:47.199 how is he in the weight room with you? 147 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:47.439 Well? 148 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.079 He doesn't lift half the time, right, you got that 149 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.079 Booby Miles thing. 150 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.519 Sure, right, the kid doesn't lift. So it happens. 151 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.519 And I won't I won't say a name, but we 152 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.000 were recruiting a young man out of Louisiana who was 153 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:03.000 absolutely the best running back I have ever seen in 154 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.560 my life. And in the state championship games three games 155 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.879 he played, he ran for over nine hundred yards in 156 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:15.639 those three games. And it was between US and Kansas, 157 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.360 And really, I asked, I said, so I want to know, 158 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.240 and I'll go one step further. He had pro NFL 159 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:30.759 players looking no kind of run managing him. So I said, look, 160 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.920 here's deal. Why did he pick Kansas because they were 161 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.720 the first school that came in off him, just like 162 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.920 you guys are the second school that came out. And 163 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.639 he'll come to you if he can't get in. Well, 164 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.720 while that was going on, a pro ballplayer who's going 165 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.639 to be in the Hall of Fame said to one 166 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.319 of my coaches, you know, look at he he takes 167 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.160 a couple of days off every now and then because 168 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.920 he runs so hard and stuff, and went that ain't 169 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.600 gonna sit well with coach Monica. And he goes, well, no, no, 170 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:08.279 you don't understand. This is ready. And they said, you 171 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:12.079 don't understand. If he takes a rest, everybody else has 172 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.600 to get arrest. But he ain't gonna do that, so 173 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.199 he needs to be It waits at five a m. 174 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.519 And they were like, well, he'll be there, but you know, 175 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:23.120 you just got to understand who you're dealing with. He said, no, 176 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.879 we love him, we love him, and we want him. 177 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:27.639 And he was going to come to us, but Kansas 178 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:29.920 snuck him into some summer school and got him in 179 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:31.560 and actually he went to the Cincinnati Bengals. 180 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.960 Okay, so he did did him out to Oh. 181 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.399 My goodness, but he uh and he got caught because 182 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.039 it just he left after his sophomore year. Was just foolish. 183 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.240 But anyway, the kid was phenomenal. But they just said, 184 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.039 you know, he doesn't care who he is. You know, 185 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:49.320 it's the team. 186 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:49.879 Is it's an extra. 187 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:55.000 It's not an extra, it's what what makes you your 188 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.399 You're no doubt when get tough. 189 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.320 So we got a few minutes here before we go 190 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.320 to We're going to talk to the a U A 191 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.120 champion triathlete coach. 192 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.720 That was insane. I didn't know they even had college triathletes. 193 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.159 I was going to go there with you because because 194 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:14.039 you you guys lose a football program. How now you 195 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:17.440 can talk about it more than you did. How devastating 196 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.039 was that? Oh my god, do I want to bring 197 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:20.320 that up? 198 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:21.440 It was horrible. 199 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:25.200 I mean, here we are playing incredible going to a 200 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.679 bowl game and knowing it's it. But what gave what 201 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:35.679 gave me some solace our kids that were recruited, we 202 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:38.080 gave them the option to leave. They hit that to 203 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.399 me before the season, and we knew it was coming. 204 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:47.000 So I called every single person. Not one person left 205 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:52.519 the program. I can't say that might be one of 206 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.320 the highlights of my coaching career is just knowing that 207 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:59.759 every kid that said he'd come wanted to come and 208 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.480 this staff and it was phenomenal. 209 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:04.519 Right, And we went to a bowl game with. 210 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:08.080 Minus nine starters and those kids played two ways, and 211 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.519 we had kids that had four or five carries during 212 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.840 the season and they were in the just they gave 213 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.360 everything they had. 214 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:17.799 This is a dumb question because I should know this answer. 215 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.200 Uh scurring, he's written a book or two. Has anybody 216 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.519 written about this rag tag group of people? For your 217 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.639 final year? There's not a story there. 218 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:28.960 Oh, they'd probably a great story. I couldn't write it 219 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.519 because they'd have to X ray it too many cuss 220 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.879 words and stuff, and the movie would be bad. But 221 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:38.399 I mean, these kids are They're amazing. They're amazing. My 222 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.679 staff didn't leave, the kids didn't leave. I mean, it 223 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:44.080 was just it was a tremendous year, and then finishing 224 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.240 it off in that Bowl game was great. But I'll 225 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.320 tell you what I didn't. I didn't pout all year. 226 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.200 I didn't whine about it all year. But when we 227 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.759 got that runner up trophy and I went to my 228 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.440 rental car to drive it back, that was a tough ride. 229 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.440 Now, now you've been out for a year, you were 230 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.720 not coming back. Now you can be honest. Do you 231 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.200 think it would have ever could have come back? You 232 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:10.759 said no, no, because money money. You have to understand. 233 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.919 Right, A helmet now, and I haven't bought them for 234 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.399 a while, but they were over three hundred when I 235 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.039 bought them each, and you're talking one hundred and fifty 236 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.200 hundred and sixty helmets, or even if you only want 237 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.159 to have one hundred kids, you've got to have extra. 238 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:25.960 Was that the number one cost was the number one reason. 239 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.600 Well, they were saying cost and you know, I'll, i'll heck, 240 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.080 I don't have to worry about anything now, And I well, 241 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:34.039 I really didn't even when I was working there. But 242 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:38.320 you know, we didn't even have a line budget. I'd say, well, 243 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:39.799 how do you know what my budget is? Well, this 244 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:41.080 is what it is from last year. 245 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:43.399 The hell do you know what to spend on? 246 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.759 So realistically, we didn't even have We weren't even funded. 247 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.440 They were just making ways to pay for athletics, not 248 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:53.080 just football. 249 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:57.120 So and of course football is very expensive, and supposedly 250 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.279 this new chancel they have in there now is just phenomena. 251 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.919 He's just a great supporter of athletics. 252 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.919 And I mean, how can you down athletics when twelve 253 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.559 of thirteen teams are going to nationals every year and 254 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:15.320 you're putting out seventy eighty one hundred academic All Americans. 255 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.279 It didn't make sense to me. But when people say 256 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.679 that to me now, I'm like, look, when I got in, 257 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:23.919 I made our practice field the soccer field. We run 258 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:27.159 out of time, No, we're good, Okay, we made it 259 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.080 the soccer field, right, we got lights, we did this, 260 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.480 We got a new scoreboard from Chapman and all that 261 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.759 other stuff, And they say, well, what if you brought 262 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.679 back football? So where do we practice? We can't tear 263 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.440 up that soccer field. It's our game field. The reason 264 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.759 I stopped going down to Keino Stadium it was running 265 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:44.559 fifty sixty seventy thousand dollars a year to play games, 266 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.759 and that was five six games. So it was a 267 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:51.360 ton of money. It didn't make sense. And so where 268 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:52.879 do you play? How do you get that? They sold 269 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.480 everything we had, right, They sold all the equipment, They 270 00:12:55.480 --> 00:13:00.440 sold all the dummies, the sleds, they sold everything. So 271 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.639 if you were going to start a program again, you're 272 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.320 talking easily three quarters to a million dollars to try 273 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:10.559 to get us off the ground, right right, yeah, you know, 274 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:11.759 and then we had good sponsorship. 275 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.000 So so we're going to have the coach from the 276 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.519 triathlon from you? They right? Uh? Did you were you? 277 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.799 Because you lost it? Was there ever time to maybe 278 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.559 get a sport like bring one on? 279 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:32.399 Yes? And college said no, College said no, What could 280 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:32.720 you say? 281 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:33.000 What it was? 282 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.840 Anything I want? I said anything I wanted when I 283 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:40.480 was still working there. Yeah, we uh so the and 284 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.120 I got in trouble for it too. Because I wrote 285 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.200 a grant to the NFL to get women's flag football. 286 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:49.120 Oh ye, and it's moving now and we got it, okay. 287 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.320 And all they said was is, we'll give you the 288 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:53.799 money to start it. You just have to promise you'll 289 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.679 keep it for three years or you have to pay 290 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.759 back the funding. And it wasn't that much money, like 291 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:59.919 twenty grand a year. 292 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:00.639 Oh yeah, yeah. 293 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:05.600 So I'm like, awesome, I'm in. My boss said, awesome, 294 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.279 We're in. We brought it up to the powers that 295 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.360 be and they went, what are you doing right in 296 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.799 a grant? We have a grant department, so me be 297 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:15.919 and me I said, well, obviously the grant department is 298 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.279 not that great because I got it, so can we 299 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:19.000 have it? 300 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.559 No? Then I tried for volleyball, sand volleyball. No. 301 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.720 And of course, you know, in my tenure we lost 302 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:32.200 tennis and golf, and we weren't fielding teams that not 303 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:36.559 only were GPA good, which you expect from those sports, 304 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.759 sure they, we weren't fielding enough players and we weren't 305 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:41.960 keeping them eligible. So it was just I didn't want to. 306 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.440 That was probably the biggest you know, pay Peter from Paul. 307 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.399 But yeah, well I didn't know that. And obviously, uh, 308 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.919 and I don't know why I didn't know about golf, 309 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:55.519 although I know that the kid, right, that's why he left, wouldn't. 310 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.440 Know no job. 311 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:02.039 Yeah, and realistically I was trying to keep golf. We 312 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.360 couldn't get a coach they did. We couldn't pay them 313 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.720 enough money. They wouldn't give me any money to pay them. Well, 314 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.320 you know, golf's bougie. You need to drink. Fine, you know, 315 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.519 they're the fancy money, you know, but it was costing 316 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:12.559 one hundred thousand bucks. 317 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:13.320 You could have done it. 318 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.759 Now that you're a golfer, I can teach it. I 319 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:17.679 just can't show them. Oh yeah, I know how to 320 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:19.000 tell them how to do it. I just can't. 321 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:23.000 These guys are probably much better than you much. Yeah. Yeah. 322 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.440 They were driving the greens over at Randolph North hosted tournaments. 323 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.120 We gotta go. 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