WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:07.320 You're listening to KFI six on demand. Bob, Welcome to 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:11.759 the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, hi, well hi, do you 3 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:16.679 have a question? Yes, well, how can I help you? 4 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:16.960 You know? 5 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.399 My question is is with regard you were talking about 6 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:25.039 Satan and evil and so forth, and it's often been 7 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.920 said that the reason why evil exists is because without 8 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.799 evil there can be no claim to virtue. 9 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:33.119 On this earth. 10 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.399 Yes, well, well I. 11 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.280 Don't know about that, because it seemed like in heaven 12 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:43.240 when there was the third of the angels that rebelled, 13 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.520 there was evil in heaven because they were rebelling against God. 14 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:53.439 So once we're resurrected into heaven, what is to prevent 15 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:57.119 that from happening all over again? Because if there's no 16 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.520 potential for evil, then there can be no claim the 17 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.239 virtue in heaven either, because there will be no choice 18 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:04.719 in heaven. 19 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:08.319 Well, no, that's I can see where you get that. 20 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.439 But there's more to it than that. Heaven in its 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.879 final state all when all is said and done, here 22 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:20.760 is the completion or the fulfillment of all those things. 23 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.920 So imagine it this way, And really what it comes 24 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:30.000 down to is the option of the option of evil, 25 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.000 not evil itself. So you don't need evil, but you 26 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.079 do need at least the opportunity for people to not 27 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.879 choose good, to make good have value. But in heaven 28 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.079 you're talking about the fulfillment of something. Let's say you're 29 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:45.400 running a race, Bob. As in that race, you're running 30 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.200 that race, and then you win that race. At the 31 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.439 end of the race, you're now the winner of that race. Right, 32 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:53.480 are you still running? 33 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:55.200 No? 34 00:01:55.319 --> 00:02:00.239 Okay, So that race is finished and you've won that race, 35 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.799 and all of everything that comes with the winning of 36 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:06.079 that race is now finalized in that win, and it's done. 37 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.639 You don't continue to run. And so the confusion is 38 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:13.520 when you're looking at heaven in the state prior to 39 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.319 creation and the fall, and then after the fall, and 40 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.879 in the state after the fall is the fulfillment. It 41 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.919 is the finality of all those things that you talked about, 42 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.599 all those decisions that have been made. So evil isn't 43 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:31.120 necessary in itself. What is necessary is the possibility of evil. 44 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.000 You have to be able to in this world in 45 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:39.199 this way, have the ability to reject something in order 46 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:42.639 to make it real. Love is only real, Bob, if 47 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:46.879 you have the option not to love, Otherwise it becomes forced, 48 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:50.240 and that's not what love is. So all those things 49 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.599 play a part as you're experiencing life on this earth 50 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.599 in this way, in this time, with a time continuum 51 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.280 and all of that. But outside of time, when all 52 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.039 of this is done, you're dealing with the fulfillment of 53 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.000 hope and the fulfillment of all those things in heaven, 54 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.520 and there isn't the need for that option anymore. The 55 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:14.560 final option has been made, that it's done. Okay. If 56 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.800 somebody is fearful of a bullet and you shoot them 57 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.280 with it and you kill them, there is no more fear. 58 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:22.840 There will never be fear from that gun again. Ever, 59 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.960 it's finalized. And so that's kind of what you're dealing 60 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.840 with in the concept of heaven. You're dealing with the 61 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:33.680 finality of things and the final choice to enter into that, 62 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:39.400 and that final choice, unto death becomes sealed. But as 63 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.560 long as you're living, you can go back and forth. 64 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:42.960 As long as you're living, you can do good or 65 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.000 you can do bad, or any of those things. But 66 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.000 what you decide at that point of death. This is 67 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.639 why the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheming the Holy Spirit, 68 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:56.840 because that's rejecting God unto death, so unto everything, unto death. 69 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.319 You go back and forth, back and forth whatever. Hopefully 70 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:04.199 you don't but you can. But after that point of death, 71 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:09.000 then it's sealed. That's the final choice. And now that 72 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.520 choice is the one that you go into eternity with, 73 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.800 just like at the end of the race, you don't 74 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:15.439 keep running. 75 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:22.439 Well, that's when God created created the angels. Then he 76 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:24.560 knew ahead of time that a third of them were 77 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.040 going to rebel and fall. 78 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.399 Right of course, Okay. 79 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.639 So he knew that there was going to be something 80 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.399 imperfect about his creation. 81 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.319 No, the creation can be perfect. A car can be perfect. 82 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.480 Let's say there's such a thing as a perfect car 83 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.480 and get a dent, and you can know it's going 84 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.279 to get a dent. But it was still created perfect, 85 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:52.839 meaning whole. And so that through the because angels are 86 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.920 believed to have intellect, will and emotion as well. So 87 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:01.240 if these angels have intellect, will, and and choose to 88 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:05.480 rebel or to reject God's will, then yes, they fall 89 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.160 in they fall, and in this case they fall into 90 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.839 the category that you're talking about. And the difference between 91 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.839 an angel and a human is the angel already had 92 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.279 all the information that that they're ever going to have 93 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.279 in their life, whereas you obtain new information over you know, 94 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.920 the span of your life on earth. So when an 95 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.040 angel makes that decision, it's final the moment they make it. 96 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.759 That's why the devil and the fallen angels don't get redeemed. 97 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.959 That's the equivalent of you at the point of death 98 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.319 making a decision when an angel does it, because they're 99 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.160 doing it with the total someome knowledge they're ever going 100 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:43.879 to have. It's a lot for the morning, isn't it. 101 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.600 That's heavy? 102 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.639 Heavy? Indeed, I'll let just sit with that and mull 103 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.920 it over, and then you can call back sometime with 104 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.000 with other thoughts in that In that realm, I know, 105 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.120 it gets a little weighty, but you can do some 106 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.120 studying on your own time. The differences that the theories 107 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.720 being that the difference between man and angels is that 108 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.439 angels are what they called call it actualized potential. That 109 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.079 means that everything they can be is actualized the moment 110 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:25.360 they are, whereas humans are potential actualized potentials, which is essentially, 111 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.639 if you think of let's say an eight ounce glass 112 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.480 that an angel. If an angel was an eight ounce glass. 113 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.079 That glass would be created full. All the water it's 114 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.639 ever going to hold is in it the second it's created. 115 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.639 Whereas humans are created as an empty glass that continues 116 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.000 to fill throughout their lifetime, taking in new information and learning. 117 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:52.240 So different creatures, different consequences, well, similar consequences, but different 118 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:59.560 applications throughout their lives, because they come into creation in 119 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:03.759 the present of God, and in so doing they have 120 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.680 all the knowledge they're ever going to have, and the 121 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.639 decisions they make are final by definition. Whereas this part 122 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:14.000 of earth that you experience has a time continuum, and 123 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.759 you can go through the process of learning and coming 124 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.560 into new knowledge or rejecting old knowledge, whatever it might be, 125 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:27.079 and as you do that, you become smarter and better 126 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:36.319 informed and make better decisions. So a difference there, Greece. 127 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:37.639 Welcome to Jesus Christ show. 128 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:40.319 Good to talk to you this morning. 129 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:40.879 Jesus. 130 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.319 My question for you is actually I love listening to 131 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:45.079 you every Sunday. 132 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:46.079 Thank you. 133 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.199 And along the topic of this and forgiveness and salvation. 134 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.439 I grew up Catholic, kind of have come back and 135 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.800 I went to non denominational churches and studied religion and philosophy, 136 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.199 and I have an open part towards you know, the 137 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:07.040 beliefs of all the different churches, because I think that 138 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:10.680 there is uh we all have you in comment. But 139 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.240 if Christ is all salvation, accept that and but continue 140 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:21.120 to sin, which we will. I don't know many Christians that, 141 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.800 even with the change of heart and and wanting to 142 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:29.319 follow Christ, that still do not fall short. Obviously, then 143 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:32.120 how how's the reconciliation? And I know the Catholic Church 144 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:36.519 they have the you know, confession, the sacrament of reconciliation. 145 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.320 But the Christian Church, I understand obviously it's between God, 146 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.440 as you said, you know my heart. But when you 147 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.919 see people that call themselves Christians and they they I 148 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.840 believe that they've accepted Christ in their lives and as 149 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:55.399 we all try to, but they still continue to hate 150 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.399 a group of people are cause or or and and 151 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:05.879 they're not actively really seeking to love everybody, I mean, 152 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.960 you know, and and for and forgiveness. So it is 153 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:15.440 reconciliation like every morning when we wake up. It's obviously 154 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.679 a constant thing. Or is it that you know? Once 155 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.240 I said, I believe that Christ is God, that I'm 156 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:26.960 forgiven and I don't have to, you know, to to 157 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:28.679 search my heart on a daily basis. 158 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.759 No, it's active, yeah, because well not the salvation part. 159 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.039 The salvation part, it's not. Uh. It says that that 160 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.840 God is the author and finisher of your faith. The 161 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.240 process is going to be done by God, the purification process. 162 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.840 But you're a participant most assuredly when it says in 163 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.840 scripture to be a living sacrifice, meaning day to day 164 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:53.240 you're going to be working through the nooks and crannies 165 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:57.559 of your faith. And that God loves everyone, but that 166 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.399 doesn't mean everyone goes to heaven. So you can love 167 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.679 the world and still judge them. There are things in 168 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.639 this world that need judging. If people, if righteous people 169 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.840 don't judge, then there's going to be more problems. So 170 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.399 it's a balance of taking the things that you do 171 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.080 know and applying them not in a haughty way where 172 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.159 you're standing and saying I'm better than all of you 173 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.440 and I'm judging you, but in a way that's healthy 174 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:26.480 and productive. So you should there should be fruit that 175 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.799 you know, a Christian should bear fruit. But also you 176 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.679 can see huge ministries that could not give a rodents 177 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.759 behind about me. They make their money and they do 178 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:40.320 their thing and they profess their Christianity and they do 179 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.000 all that they do, and you could say, well, gush, 180 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.320 there's a lot of fruit. But it's not just about 181 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.159 physical or they make money or they have a big 182 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:53.200 church or whatever they may have. There's more to it 183 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.720 than that. There's a practical side to all of it 184 00:10:55.799 --> 00:11:01.840 and the process. So salvation takes place in that. But 185 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:09.159 the process of a difference between sanctification as well, and 186 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.559 you're setting yourself apart and then you're being purified to 187 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.360 become holy, is a different part of the process of salvation. 188 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.320 But as far as being saved, there's nothing you can 189 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.759 do to earn that. It's the gift of grace is 190 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.960 given by God and God alone. You merely receive it, 191 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:32.159 and only in that act of receiving it and applying 192 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.559 it to your life does it become real and applied 193 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:41.519 and actual. But God does all of that. God knocks 194 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:43.799 on the door of your heart. You let God in, 195 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.480 and that is the process of salvation. The things that 196 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.799 go on in life are about you working through dealing 197 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.720 with your humanity. Remember Paul said, the spirit is willing, 198 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.679 the flesh is weak, and you will be wrestling with 199 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.639 your humanity throughout the rest of your life as a 200 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:05.120 sinner who has sin nature. But there's a difference between 201 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:10.120 all of those things and outright rebellion. You know, children 202 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:15.559 will make mistakes, children will love their parents and make mistakes. 203 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:18.919 But if a child continues down a state of rebellion, 204 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.960 rejecting all that the parent has to offer and say 205 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:27.879 and teach, that's different from going through the the you know, 206 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:35.879 natural curiosity and quest for independence as a child. And 207 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.519 when you see rebellion versus that natural quest, you know 208 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.720 the difference. And when you're in that state of rebellion 209 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:46.519 versus the natural or normal sin nature of human kind, 210 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:55.080 then you will see that as well. Martha, Welcome to 211 00:12:55.080 --> 00:13:00.279 the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi there, How can I you? 212 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.559 Yeah, I have I have a question about sitting and 213 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:12.399 uh and sect. When I was younger, I was promised 214 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.759 to a boy and we were promised not to have 215 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.840 sex before we were married. And he was very very 216 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:25.000 very conservative and religious, and he but he kind of 217 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.759 had another sign to him. I I kind of moved 218 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.279 away when I went to college, and he he kind 219 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.759 of decided that because I went away, he could, you know, 220 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:40.080 punish me by by making me have sex. With him. 221 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:45.879 So essentially, he I mean, he raped me, and I've 222 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.120 I've since come to terms with it emotionally, but I 223 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.440 just have a question about you know, sinning and and 224 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:59.840 I I don't know if it if you know, did 225 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.159 as it wasn't a sin to begin with, and I 226 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.240 have I been forgiven is And I don't want. 227 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.120 To harbor whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Are you 228 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.159 talking about whether it was a sin that he raped you? 229 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:14.720 Yeah? 230 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:20.960 On his end, yes, on your end? No, Okay, absolutely not. 231 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.679 It's not about this is that is something that was 232 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:31.600 forced upon you? Uh huh right, that's what you're telling me. Okay, 233 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:33.360 then then how would that be your sin? 234 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.080 I guess I just. 235 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:43.120 After it would happened, he would kind of say that 236 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.279 I instigate it in some way, that I was kind 237 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:49.320 of asking for it. 238 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.159 So that's very ugly. 239 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:54.840 Yeah, it is. 240 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.879 Had you guys been doing things that might not have 241 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.360 and productive, like drinking or drugs or anything like that, No, 242 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:09.159 I haven't. No, so what would he call instigating it? 243 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:18.960 I guess that I was either being resistant towards him 244 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:24.120 if we had been fighting, or if you know, h 245 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.080 he thought that I was you know, beating him. I guess, 246 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.080 you know, which I was gonna unfounded. I hadn't been, 247 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.840 but he then, you know, he knows. He was very 248 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:42.679 literal about things, you know, the Ten Commandments and things 249 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:45.000 from the Bible. And he would tell me afterwards that 250 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.600 that it doesn't matter that I had been sinning, even 251 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:51.440 if I hadn't wanted wanted to do it. 252 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.399 He was. He was trying to tell you that you 253 00:15:55.399 --> 00:16:01.960 had been sinning even though you weren't a willing participant. Yeah, well, 254 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.919 he's not here to defend himself or to give his 255 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.159 his thoughts on what happened. So I care about you 256 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.440 because you were you were brave enough to call. I 257 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:15.879 would say this, do not harbor that in your heart 258 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.240 or worry about that at all. If when you are 259 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:25.120 truly the victim to somebody pressing something on you like 260 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:29.080 that and their will upon you, then it's not you 261 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.720 are not a wilful participant. When it comes to sin, 262 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.679 sin simply means missing the mark. There's a mark that 263 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.200 God has for you, that God wants for you, and 264 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.919 people make sin to be this huge religious word that 265 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.840 just sounds it doesn't feel like it has any meaning. 266 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.320 It's just like a no no, But really it's about 267 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.879 the plan Martha, that God has for you, and then 268 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:53.960 God wants you to follow that plan. And when it 269 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:59.480 comes to something like this, it's a matter of it's 270 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:01.919 it's not like God's a god of checks and balances 271 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.000 and he says, well, I told you shouldn't have done this, 272 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:06.559 and that's the way it should go and this, and 273 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.160 it's that's not how God is and that's the purpose 274 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.200 of it is all for you. All those things are 275 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.799 to help protect your life, not just that God is 276 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:20.519 this huge you know, police officer in the sky saying 277 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.960 this is the rule here and this is not people 278 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.079 people do this with all authority. Don't you see that, Martha, 279 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.119 that even with police officers, they think that the you know, 280 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.720 law enforcement is you know, trying to bring them down, 281 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.039 when really they're enforcing laws that are there to protect them. 282 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.160 And that's what the balance of things are with God. 283 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.839 And it's not about trying to make you feel shame 284 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.519 or ugliness. That's a that is a horrible thing that 285 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.559 happened to you. And to have somebody as horrible as 286 00:17:53.559 --> 00:18:00.039 it is imply that somehow you have now sinned to 287 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.359 me is a vulgar display and misuse of faith and 288 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.599 scripture as well. And I think it's pretty disgusting that 289 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:12.960 somebody would do that on top of everything else. So 290 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:16.599 don't take the weight of that. I'm proud of you 291 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.960 that you seem so together, focused and that you understand 292 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.240 that it was a circumstance and something that happened to you. 293 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.079 But that is not who you are, you know that, right, Yeah, 294 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.759 You're not defined by that moment. It was something somebody 295 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:34.880 did to you. It's not something you are. Okay. Then 296 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:37.680 you move forward each day knowing that that you are 297 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.599 the same creation God. May God has the same plan 298 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.279 for you. Somebody tried to interrupt that plan by imposing 299 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.839 their plan, and you continue down the path that you 300 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:55.720 started on before that ever happened. Okay, And please don't 301 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.559 feel any weird guilt or any shame based on something 302 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:04.960 that's someone else did. God deals with the heart. It 303 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:07.319 says in scripture, fear not he who can kill the flesh, 304 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.799 but he who can kill the spirit. People can take 305 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:14.400 your flesh, as this boy did, but they can't take 306 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.200 your heart. You can only give that to someone, and 307 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:23.359 you've given that to me, not to him. So you 308 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:27.400 continue living that way. Okay, yeah, you so much, Thank 309 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:35.000 you for calling. There's there's ugly stories that I hear 310 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:41.200 all the time about how scripture is misused, and and 311 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.480 to every story, there are two sides, and as they say, 312 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:49.000 and somewhere in the middle is the truth. But when 313 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:57.359 I hear of scripture being contorted or twisted to try 314 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:06.640 and cover up somebody's own sin, it seems like the 315 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:13.519 darkest it's the darkest used. It's there to reflect the 316 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.039 things that you've done, to reflect light of God on 317 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:17.680 you so that you can learn from the things. It's 318 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.039 not to say people won't make mistakes, and it's not 319 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.359 to say that there aren't young people that do stupid things, 320 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:29.839 and yes, are remorseful, but when they walk in that 321 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:35.119 boldness as if there is no remorse or that it 322 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:41.559 was somehow, you know, mutual, in that context, it's pretty 323 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:46.640 pretty vulgar and a disgusting use of scripture. And we 324 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:51.960 also get calls from as we have today, of both 325 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.119 men and women, although the majority of the time it's 326 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:59.680 going to be women, just numbers wise that have been 327 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:08.079 molested and or hurt sexually. And I want those words 328 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.559 that I shared with Martha to resonate with you too. 329 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:19.519 You are not that instance, that happening that took place. 330 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:24.640 That is not the definition of who you are. And 331 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:27.680 there are many times where something ugly can happen, and 332 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.960 not only do you define yourself by it, but you 333 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:35.039 feel that everyone else does and that that ugliness travels 334 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:37.720 with you and that it can be seen, and that 335 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.960 it's written on your face and the way you walk 336 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.799 and the things you say and what you do, and 337 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:48.000 that is up to you. That if you define yourself 338 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:54.160 by it, then yes, it will follow you everywhere you go. Nowever, 339 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:58.079 if you see it as the circumstance that someone else 340 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:04.000 has pushed upon you, and that you are not defined 341 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.400 by it, and that it's not who you are but 342 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:13.079 something that happened to you, is when you will be 343 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.880 healthier and have the ability to move on in a 344 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:20.200 way that brings more light into your life and more 345 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.839 people of strength into your life. And I see this 346 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:27.319 also with illness. There are many people that define themselves 347 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:32.279 by the illness they have currently, even if it is 348 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:35.359 a terminal illness, it does not define who you are. 349 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:42.559 It is something that is happening to you, and it's 350 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:46.359 imperative that you as the person who has gone through something, 351 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:50.960 whether it is sickness, whether it is something ugly like 352 00:22:51.359 --> 00:23:01.119 sexual abuse, that it doesn't continue to to taint or 353 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:07.240 to define who you are. That is almost like allowing 354 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.279 the person back into your life over and over and 355 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:19.599 over again. And know the difference between real sin, which 356 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:26.279 is rebellion against God versus ignorance or situation. What God 357 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.359 doesn't want is you to go in to things knowing 358 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.400 that they're against the will of God and willfully desiring 359 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:39.559 them and applying them to your life. It has nothing 360 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:47.079 to do with things that happen to you. And I 361 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:48.319 hope that you know the difference. 362 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:54.319 Ron. 363 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.559 Welcome to the Jesus Christio. 364 00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:57.960 Yes, thank you sir. 365 00:23:58.480 --> 00:23:59.240 How can I help you? 366 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.680 Yes, there's been a lot of people talking in recent 367 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:08.559 weeks to me about nephilum or Ufo sightings, and. 368 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.200 I was the neph in Genesis. 369 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.440 You mean, just in general, I want to know more 370 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.799 about the definition of dephaline. Are they good embarrassed spirits? 371 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.359 Are they something's just gonna happen in the end times? 372 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.640 Well, what have you been hearing? What are what are 373 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.319 the things that you've been hearing? I'm surprised that people 374 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:30.920 are chatting away about the Nephie. 375 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:36.799 But well, people say they are spiritual influences all around 376 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.720 the world, not just here. They're extra terrestrial sightings from 377 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.240 Russia or China all the way to the United States. 378 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:48.559 It's not just in one location. And I know from 379 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.440 living in four or five different countries that the different 380 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.799 spiritual influences throughout the world. It's not the same spiritually 381 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:00.480 everywhere you go. So I just wanted to educate myself 382 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:09.759 and know more about how these spiritual influences pave our 383 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:13.720 way in the future, because there's definitely something different. Even 384 00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.559 in the last fifteen years since I moved from Europe. 385 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:20.079 Something is different in the world, and I don't know 386 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.920 if it's good or bad, but it's going towards a 387 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.000 depression state to me. 388 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.680 So you think that there's things that are pointing towards 389 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:32.319 the world kind of spiraling out of control, and that 390 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.599 points something to something spiritual. 391 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.440 Yes, sir, I know in the scripture it says a 392 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.880 thousand years to us, it's like one day to the Lord. 393 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.279 So I believe that we lose touch and concept of 394 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.119 who our creator is and kind of give our own 395 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:52.519 influences to our own abilities instead of God. We kind 396 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:59.480 of push God to the side and think upon our power, money, military, nuclear, 397 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.359 and we kind of pushed God to decide and forget 398 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.759 about them. I believe in past civilizations that's what's happened, 399 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:11.559 and I know that's around the world in different places. 400 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.720 How I grew up in the United States, but I 401 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.400