Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine.
Speaker 2: Day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we
Speaker 2: think when we.
Speaker 3: Are get off our show, idiot.
Speaker 2: The kids are crying or turning off.
Speaker 3: Their countries are screwing it up.
Speaker 1: Gold Play inter Murals, Brother, gold Play Intermurals.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be with youure adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 3: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, guys. I usually am sometimes
Speaker 2: a little too honest to be honest with you, but
Speaker 2: I was a little bummed heading in today because I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing I can do about it, but
Speaker 2: I thought we would have a short show because the
Speaker 2: Louis of Bats. Of course you can hear them once again.
Speaker 2: It's Sports Talks in ninety They were going to be
Speaker 2: pre empty, and look, it's good to have the Bats back.
Speaker 2: But you know I want three hours. I'm selfish and
Speaker 2: you guys, obviously it's really me just worried about you all.
Speaker 2: If you don't get your three hour fix? Am I
Speaker 2: doing my job? I mean, you went a week without
Speaker 2: me last week, but it worked out well to where
Speaker 2: the bats ended early. Unfortunately they came up short they lost,
Speaker 2: So a nice surprise to get a full show today.
Speaker 2: And then also I'm sure he did it just because
Speaker 2: he's a nice friend and he was trying to help
Speaker 2: my ego and help my insecurities. First thing, one of
Speaker 2: the first things that the tribal chief himself, Austin Montgomery
Speaker 2: said to me when we walked in today, was that
Speaker 2: he noticed the facial hair. Now, yes, was it the truth?
Speaker 2: I think it was the truth? Yes? Was it because
Speaker 2: we were closer to one another and there was light, There.
Speaker 4: Was actual like light. Yes, And the lights here are
Speaker 4: bright when you walk into the studio. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: saw it. I see it right it out.
Speaker 2: Dude, It's yeah. I think I'm going to although I
Speaker 2: have both of my kids have their first first baseball
Speaker 2: game this of the season coming up on Saturday, opening
Speaker 2: Day for Moves. He's playing at the at the Oklhona
Speaker 2: League over there by Southern High School. This will be
Speaker 2: his third year playing te ball, and I think because
Speaker 2: of his age, not his third year, but he did
Speaker 2: fall ball and then now this is his second time
Speaker 2: doing baseball. In the spring, and I think he'll do
Speaker 2: an I think because of his age, I believe next
Speaker 2: year it's gonna be the same thing. He'll still be
Speaker 2: playing te ball, which man, my man's gonna be ready
Speaker 2: to not use the tee like he already is. But
Speaker 2: he has his first game and it's at eleven fifteen
Speaker 2: on Saturday. For all of you that want to want
Speaker 2: to come out and watch him, I'm sure, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you'd love to come watch my son play t ball.
Speaker 2: But my daughter also, she's playing in her third season
Speaker 2: in the Miracle League, which is a league for special
Speaker 2: needs children and adults. And it's you've heard me talk
Speaker 2: about it before. It's it's amazing and it sucks that
Speaker 2: they played the first time. But Mom's gonna take Moose,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Maya, and then I'll end up probably
Speaker 2: making my way over to see him wrap up. Her
Speaker 2: games don't last that long. But long story short, I
Speaker 2: don't want to show up looking like the ungroomed father
Speaker 2: at you know, at the at opening day, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And there's really no way like where
Speaker 2: it is right now, and that's my worries, Like I
Speaker 2: could give it another three weeks and probably still look
Speaker 2: like a homeless man that hasn't showered in a month.
Speaker 2: And at that point I would have just you know,
Speaker 2: it would have been a waste of time. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to By the end of the week, I'll
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing. I'll know.
Speaker 4: Let anyone tell you, like, hey, I noticed that, or like,
Speaker 4: have anyone just kind of backwards kind of tell you
Speaker 4: you look rough?
Speaker 2: It's said as it sounds. Here's the honest truth. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen anybody, oh okay, like you and my family.
Speaker 4: I feel like if you were to run into Venetti,
Speaker 4: he would tell you that you, like, in a very
Speaker 4: Venette way, like you look rough, just because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, he would tell me I look rough. He
Speaker 2: would ask me if I've showered lately. He would absolutely
Speaker 2: And that's that's one of the one of the actual
Speaker 2: qualities of Venetti is that he doesn't have the ability
Speaker 2: to not be really direct. And actually I've noticed this
Speaker 2: when I listened to him on has that he's a
Speaker 2: little the older he gets, the more direct and blunt
Speaker 2: he is, which I'll never forget. I showed up to
Speaker 2: the spring game years ago, no joke, probably nine years ago.
Speaker 2: I had just been here for a few months at
Speaker 2: the time of the spring game back in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: and I showed up wearing pleated khaki pants and a
Speaker 2: red polo, looking like an absolute dork. I don't really
Speaker 2: know what I was. I think at the time, I
Speaker 2: was trying to like figure out, Okay, do I dress
Speaker 2: like I would typically dress, or now that I'm working
Speaker 2: for Cards Radio and we're doing a spring game live show,
Speaker 2: do I need to dress like a business professional? And
Speaker 2: sure enough I looked ridiculous, and Benetti didn't say anything
Speaker 2: other than you look like Jake from State Farm, dude,
Speaker 2: And he was right, I did.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: He's always been really direct, so nice. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's actually a you know, you need people in your
Speaker 2: life that'll tell you things that they know a lot
Speaker 2: of people won't tell you. So it makes sense you
Speaker 2: don't need somebody to be like direct and like mean
Speaker 2: and nasty about it, but there are I think everyone
Speaker 2: needs at least one person that you know will give
Speaker 2: you not only the absolute truth, but it's somebody that
Speaker 2: you value like they're like, you know, it's not only
Speaker 2: that they'll tell you something that others won't, but also
Speaker 2: like you value their opinion, right, Like there's people I
Speaker 2: love that would try to tell me what they think
Speaker 2: I should do, you know, on my show, and God
Speaker 2: love them, but like I wouldn't listen to them just
Speaker 2: because you know, like that's not you know, that's not
Speaker 2: a personal thing. It's just you know, So it's that balance.
Speaker 2: It's one somebody that doesn't have the fear of like
Speaker 2: maybe hurting your feelings, but also you trust that they
Speaker 2: are coming from a good place. So we'll see. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I got out of the shower
Speaker 2: today and I could tell that it's in the it's
Speaker 2: in the stages of like everywhere on my face there
Speaker 2: is some hair, but like I got these patches. Man.
Speaker 2: And for those who don't know what we're talking about,
Speaker 2: I mentioned it in the five o'clock hour yesterday whenever
Speaker 2: I got I guess it was yesterday. I was getting
Speaker 2: ready to leave. I had to put ocean on my
Speaker 2: face because I'm just trying not to peel and look
Speaker 2: like a snake losing its skin. It's really gross, but
Speaker 2: that's what happens whenever I get when I get sunburned,
Speaker 2: so I put off shaving because I didn't want my
Speaker 2: face to start peeling, because that's the first like that's
Speaker 2: an invitation for it to just start, you know, like anytime.
Speaker 2: Like not again, I'm getting too graphic. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, this is gross. Maybe it's not
Speaker 2: as gross to others, but like if I'm not careful,
Speaker 2: I can just start moving around and like skin's falling
Speaker 2: off me and it's really disgusting. So again, yeah, that
Speaker 2: is a little too graphic. So anyways, I was loationing
Speaker 2: my face to try to, you know, get some moisturizer
Speaker 2: to where it wasn't gonna it wasn't gonna start peeling,
Speaker 2: even though I hadn't shaved yet. And I realized that
Speaker 2: there's there's some patches within the within, the within whatever
Speaker 2: you call this on my face that is either white
Speaker 2: or gray, and it really hit me, like damn, Okay,
Speaker 2: I hadn't shaved in over a week, probably the first
Speaker 2: time I've done that as an adult, and this is
Speaker 2: it you got, you know, somebody said, somebody yesterday's on
Speaker 2: Twitter called it the Kentucky chrome. Look, I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's a thing somebody. You know, I've always been
Speaker 2: more of a silver fox kind of guy. But like
Speaker 2: I'm not full gray. But then again, you know, like
Speaker 2: apparently ladies like that. Sure, I can't wait to get
Speaker 2: to my uh my, my gray face. I'm sure not
Speaker 2: like and I'm not looking for I'm not looking for
Speaker 2: ladies by any means. But like you know, if if
Speaker 2: if someone was to say, oh, I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of hot to have gray, that would
Speaker 2: be you know, her preference whatever. But like also you
Speaker 2: would then just realize, Okay, that's now like you're viewed
Speaker 2: as the old guy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's when you fully make the transition. What do they
Speaker 2: call him? Zaddy? Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Like I've heard that? Is that a thing? Like I'm
Speaker 2: not I mean, I'm not, I'm not that but anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: real ones know. But anyways, I'll uh, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: acknowledging the facial hair that I do have, because it
Speaker 2: did hit me pretty hard because I hear I'm thinking, like, right,
Speaker 2: I'm shaving in a week, like I look rough, and
Speaker 2: Austin's like I can't even tell bro that's what he
Speaker 2: told me on the yesterday, which to be fair, it's
Speaker 2: not as if, like you know, it's not as if.
Speaker 2: It's again, the joke here is not necessarily that I
Speaker 2: have some gray hair coming in. It's probably pretty normal
Speaker 2: for somebody that is thirty six going on thirty seven.
Speaker 2: But it's that like I can't grow facial hair, which
Speaker 2: honestly has been a benefit, like I don't have to
Speaker 2: like wake up every day and straight razor in my face.
Speaker 2: Like I can go a couple maybe three days and
Speaker 2: just run the trimmer over it, and I'm usually pretty good,
Speaker 2: which again like low maintenance, and uh, you know that's
Speaker 2: that's a benefit. But just for those curious, had a
Speaker 2: couple of comments on the text line yesterday, you ain't,
Speaker 2: I'm not balding. You can wonder about that. Got a
Speaker 2: full head of hair, and I can and I got
Speaker 2: a great hairline going to hew you do. I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't do much for me, but you know, I've
Speaker 2: always been insecure because I shaved my head whenever I
Speaker 2: went to not shave my head. But like I've had
Speaker 2: the same haircut for a buzz cut. Yeah, buzz cut
Speaker 2: for like you know, eighteen nineteen years, no joke, And
Speaker 2: it was because I went away to school play basketball,
Speaker 2: and you know, I realized the shaggy blonde hair that
Speaker 2: I had. You know, I kind of stuck out like
Speaker 2: a sore thumb with my team, which I did for
Speaker 2: a variety of reasons, but the hair made it even worse.
Speaker 2: So I decided to just you know, cut my hair off.
Speaker 2: And I've kept it that way ever since. I mean,
Speaker 2: whenever I show people old pictures of me when I
Speaker 2: had hair, they're in like disbelief, like I can't believe.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that's you. It makes you look more
Speaker 2: Bully County with hair. Yeah, I can totally. I totally
Speaker 2: get it. I wouldn't mean I've never thought about that,
Speaker 2: but I get it. I don't mean I don't mean
Speaker 2: to offend you, of course not. Yeah, sort of trust me,
Speaker 2: I get it. But I've always been insecure that people
Speaker 2: think I cut my hair short because I'm like trying
Speaker 2: to cover up that I'm balding, and that will be
Speaker 2: like the last thing that you do.
Speaker 3: That would be the.
Speaker 2: Worst thing, though, is like if I did try to, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'll show you, guys, you want to see these luscious locks,
Speaker 2: give me, you know, give me a few months. You'll
Speaker 2: see what I'm working with, I got, I got some
Speaker 2: flow and then like it meant it didn't happen right.
Speaker 2: And this reminds me of an old Sinfeld episode, which
Speaker 2: I there's every segment I feel like, no matter what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, I can find a Sinfeld episode to reference.
Speaker 2: And it's probably not necessary, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2: Elaine is dating a guy who is a swimmer, and
Speaker 2: he like a competitive swimmer, so he shaves his he
Speaker 2: has his hair really short, and he wears that you know,
Speaker 2: that that cap on his head when he swims because it,
Speaker 2: you know, it makes you a little bit more. I
Speaker 2: guess loose in the water, you can get some kind
Speaker 2: of an advantage. I don't know. Well, then she sees
Speaker 2: him with hair like an old picture I think it
Speaker 2: might be his driver's license and she's like this is
Speaker 2: you and he's like yeah, and she was like, you
Speaker 2: have to grow your hair back out, and he was
Speaker 2: like really and she was like yeah, and he basically
Speaker 2: she basically cut him off like either you grow the
Speaker 2: hair out or we're done. Now that I've seen what
Speaker 2: I could have and this is this, and he's like
Speaker 2: all right, fine. He tries to grow his hair out
Speaker 2: and he can't. Like he didn't realize is that he'd
Speaker 2: been shaving his head for years and he wasted whatever
Speaker 2: good hair years he had left. Real tragic situation. So
Speaker 2: I think I remember that episode. I need to dive
Speaker 2: more into Seinfeld.
Speaker 4: Every time I've ever had it on, it's just been
Speaker 4: background fodder and then something happens and it's funny. That's
Speaker 4: how I got into the office. But it hasn't caught
Speaker 4: on for me for Seinfeld yet. But I do think
Speaker 4: it's Hilene.
Speaker 2: I'm not jealous now that you say that, because I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't stumbled upon a show that like I was
Speaker 2: missing out and and didn't realize it and I can
Speaker 2: just get lost in it with like you know, tons
Speaker 2: of seasons. It's been a long time since I've done that. Now,
Speaker 2: with that said, I haven't really tried, Like, for example,
Speaker 2: I've never seen Game of the Game of Thrones that's
Speaker 2: super popular. It's a lot to get into. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: it's an investment, right, it's a commitment. Yes, you got
Speaker 2: to really be into it. And I just don't know
Speaker 2: if I have the time or energy or interest in that.
Speaker 2: And then Ted Lasso another show that like, how many
Speaker 2: seasons are there of that? I think there's only two?
Speaker 2: What they're company? Yeah, I mean it's really popular. I'll
Speaker 2: eventually watch it, I think, I mean, I I gotta
Speaker 2: say it, though, I don't think there's any chance it
Speaker 2: could meet expectation because I mean the way I mean,
Speaker 2: Tony Venetti said that it will make you a better
Speaker 2: person if you watch it, like what I loved ted,
Speaker 2: like like going into that show knowing that I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to be an improved human being after watching that, like,
Speaker 2: that's gonna make it a tough watch, Like I Benetti
Speaker 2: kind of ruined it, to be honest with.
Speaker 4: You, I mean, he might have had three seasons and
Speaker 4: they're about to possibly have a fourth one. Their third
Speaker 4: one was supposed to be their last one.
Speaker 2: The issue I have with shows now is that I
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I've got a good memory,
Speaker 2: or at least I used to. Like people make fun
Speaker 2: of me for remembering, like my friends that I grew
Speaker 2: up with, even family, like they'll make fun of me
Speaker 2: for remembering so much that they don't remember in details
Speaker 2: of things. And yet like now I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's just I'm getting older, or what it is. But
Speaker 2: I'll watch a season of a show and love it,
Speaker 2: be like, oh that was awesome. Well then sure enough,
Speaker 2: you know, nine ten months, maybe a year goes by,
Speaker 2: and then I watched the second season and I don't
Speaker 2: remember the first season. I know I loved it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like I have a tough time keeping up, Like
Speaker 2: do you ever go back and watch like because I
Speaker 2: obviously I watched like the what you Know previously on whatever,
Speaker 2: and it'll give you a brief rundown of what you
Speaker 2: watched in the previous season. But even that kind of
Speaker 2: leaves me like, wait a second, I remember this scene,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what happened or why they're there right.
Speaker 4: Actually, usually my brain stimulates after I watch like the
Speaker 4: wrap up or some sort of hype video leading into
Speaker 4: that next season. Shows like The Officer Seinfeld, I feel
Speaker 4: like they have many seasons, kind of like pointless comedy,
Speaker 4: and like I can, I can. I could totally remember
Speaker 4: stuff like that, But when it comes to like and
Speaker 4: I'll go back and rewatch that all the time. But
Speaker 4: if it comes to like shows I'm watching now, like
Speaker 4: oh my god, what's the what? Like when we watched
Speaker 4: agathall along a couple months ago, or like Ted Lasso,
Speaker 4: I'm not going back and like watching all.
Speaker 2: The season and it's the show. Just wait till the
Speaker 2: new season comes out. The show. Now, if the show
Speaker 2: is written, I think the way that shows should be written,
Speaker 2: you you will clearly have a better understanding and you'll
Speaker 2: be I guess more locked in if you are like
Speaker 2: completely caught up. But I think you should be able
Speaker 2: to watch new seasons of shows and realize that you
Speaker 2: may miss something here and there, but you can still
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Right because here's the reality. Most people binge
Speaker 2: what they watch now, Like right now, there's this show
Speaker 2: that my wife and I have gotten into it. It's
Speaker 2: on Hulu and it's about the Natalia Gray story. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if you're familiar with it, Austin, but it's
Speaker 2: the woman who was adopted by a family from Indianapolis
Speaker 2: and she has dwarf Ism and they later realize that
Speaker 2: she's actually an adult. She's not a kid. She's she's
Speaker 2: pretending to be. Like it's a true thing, it's a
Speaker 2: really it's wow. It's there was an HBO doctor series
Speaker 2: on it, but they put together an actual Hulu put
Speaker 2: together an actual show. It's called a good it's called
Speaker 2: Good American Family, and I really am into it because
Speaker 2: I don't know how it all played out, Like I
Speaker 2: know of it, but I haven't ever followed it. But
Speaker 2: we're having to watch it week by week, and like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ever gonna watch a show
Speaker 2: like that again, Like I'm gonna let it build and
Speaker 2: then binge. And there's shows that like, now, you know,
Speaker 2: to get back to my point just a moment ago,
Speaker 2: I'm almost like I need three seasons before I'll really
Speaker 2: dive in because if I go season for season, like
Speaker 2: even that leaves me really kind of you know, it's
Speaker 2: not that I can figure it out and get caught
Speaker 2: back up. And if I really like a show, I'll
Speaker 2: watch however, I'll watch it if it's weekly, if it's
Speaker 2: you know, a season, dump one at a time, if
Speaker 2: I'm really into it. Yeah, But we just have the
Speaker 2: ability to watch so many things now at any time
Speaker 2: that if I got to wait a week, I usually
Speaker 2: just forget that that that show that has a new episode, now,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You like to have a
Speaker 2: library basis, Yeah, And there are so many shows that
Speaker 2: I love that I consider like all time favorites of
Speaker 2: mine that I don't know one that I would have
Speaker 2: actually watched it had I had to if I was
Speaker 2: doing the weekly thing. But also I'm not even sure
Speaker 2: if the show would have been as good if I
Speaker 2: couldn't binge it, you know what I'm saying. Like, sometimes
Speaker 2: we'll get into a show and we'll be watching, you know,
Speaker 2: a couple of episodes a night, three, four nights a week,
Speaker 2: but we're watching a show that has five seasons already
Speaker 2: built up, so like it's you know, we're really running
Speaker 2: through the whole thing, you know, but in a short
Speaker 2: window of time to where you were able to kind
Speaker 2: of kind of grasp it all. But anyways, sure, why
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're talking about I'm talking about Seinfeld. If
Speaker 2: you got lost in Seinfeld, Like, you know, I can't imagine,
Speaker 2: knowing you and your sense of humor, that you wouldn't
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 4: Andy, Like I said, something happens, it's funny. I laugh
Speaker 4: at it. I think it's hilarious. I think Jerry Seinfeld
Speaker 4: gets a lot of flack for people that always say
Speaker 4: that that show was like trash comedy and that he's
Speaker 4: not funny, like someone that I was talking to the
Speaker 4: other day. So the hell said that I want to
Speaker 4: see him, I want to talk to him, said that
Speaker 4: he's he said that he was the fourth funniest person
Speaker 4: on that show.
Speaker 2: And I think, well, and I so here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Larry David and Jerry wrote it. Jerry is a key component,
Speaker 2: but he is the fourth funniest character. But what happened
Speaker 2: with like what I think is just this and now
Speaker 2: I'm really nerding out on it. But with Seinfeld, you
Speaker 2: could Jerry was a terrible actor on the show at times,
Speaker 2: almost intentionally, because he almost would just it's almost like
Speaker 2: it was stand up like he would be like looking
Speaker 2: around as their storylines are playing out with Elaine and
Speaker 2: Kramer and George and George's dad or Jerry's dad or
Speaker 2: all the other great characters that have brief appearances in
Speaker 2: the show, and like he was almost like bad acting
Speaker 2: on purpose because he's like, do you guys see what
Speaker 2: we just did there? How great is this? And in
Speaker 2: a way it is arrogance. And by the way, Jerry
Speaker 2: Seinfeld does seem to be super arrogant, but like Larry
Speaker 2: David and him on that show together like phenomenal, And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Curb Your Enthusiasm is Larry David's special.
Speaker 2: It's not I mean, it's not necessarily what he's known for.
Speaker 2: I think he's mostly known for Seinfeld and just being great.
Speaker 2: But Larry David on Curby your Enthusiasm, like that is
Speaker 2: that's a super popular show that a lot of Seinfeld fanatics,
Speaker 2: like myself, you would just think that you like it.
Speaker 2: And I tried it and I never really could get
Speaker 2: into it until of all people, Chris Mack, who he
Speaker 2: and I I think one of our first conversations where
Speaker 2: we got to know each other before became buds. He
Speaker 2: loves Seinfeld and he loves it in a way that
Speaker 2: I do. And he was like, you have to watch
Speaker 2: Curve and I was like, yeah, I couldn't get into it,
Speaker 2: and he like stopped me mid lunch like no, no,
Speaker 2: you have to watch it. And I'm like all right,
Speaker 2: And sure enough, I binged it, watched it all the
Speaker 2: way through and it's it's you know, it's not Seinfeld
Speaker 2: to me, but it is really good. And I remember
Speaker 2: texting him one time, I was like, thank you, you're right,
Speaker 2: like I've that's actually one of the last shows that
Speaker 2: I had been late on and I just dove into
Speaker 2: and absorbed it all and loved it. That along with
Speaker 2: the show that I'm so glad I ended up watching
Speaker 2: because it's it's probably the funniest show that I have
Speaker 2: that I've seen on TV in a long, long time.
Speaker 2: Righteous jim Stones. I mean what a cast. I mean,
Speaker 2: Danny McBride, You've got Adam Devine, John Goodman is I mean,
Speaker 2: every character is phenomenal. And obviously Judy Jimstone that's played
Speaker 2: by Edie Patterson. I mean that she's she's the funniest
Speaker 2: character in the show. Maybe actually, no bj her boyfriend
Speaker 2: Tim Baltz, he might be the funniest. Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen Righteous Jimstones? You have to watch Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pull the Chris Mack.
Speaker 3: You have to watch it.
Speaker 2: You just got serious. You have to watch it. It
Speaker 2: is hilarious. It is hilarious. And there's actually a new season,
Speaker 2: I think coming out and then it's on HBO and
Speaker 2: if you, if you, if you need my max log in,
Speaker 2: I got it because because I need you to watch
Speaker 2: it like it's it's hilarious. I think you, I think
Speaker 2: you and your fiance would like it together, like it's
Speaker 2: it's a good because I don't. There's not many comedies
Speaker 2: that really get me anymore. Like I watch Stand up
Speaker 2: and I love I love comed like the Comedian Podcast,
Speaker 2: Like that's where I kind of, you know, go to
Speaker 2: find stuff to laugh at. But like comedy, sitcoms and
Speaker 2: shows just usually don't do it for me. But Righteous
Speaker 2: Gymstones I gave it a shot and it was it
Speaker 2: was amazing. And then White Lotus I did the first
Speaker 2: season and I know it's really popular, but I never
Speaker 2: really it didn't hook me. Have you watched that at all?
Speaker 2: Have you heard of it? White Lotus?
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 2: I've watched a couple episodes of the first season.
Speaker 4: I think Sidney Sweeney was on it, and that's the
Speaker 4: reason to watch it. Yes, that's a reason to get
Speaker 4: me hooked. And I think that's where she got her
Speaker 4: breakout maybe and that or the other show that she did.
Speaker 2: Or maybe you know, somebody just like looked at her
Speaker 2: she's a mystery and then realized that there's something there's
Speaker 2: something here, you know, there's something special here. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: what they that's what they realize. But everyone loves that
Speaker 2: show though, Like I know it loves it.
Speaker 4: Look, every every episode I've watched looks like, all right,
Speaker 4: this is kind of entertaining. But I know, like each
Speaker 4: season it is like a different season. There's no like
Speaker 4: continuity or anything like that. So that's pretty It's almost
Speaker 4: like the same thing each season, but with different cast
Speaker 4: of characters.
Speaker 2: And it's not even something that's like premeditated in my mind.
Speaker 2: But the more show becomes like what white lotuses everybody
Speaker 2: all in on it, Like, the more I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm out, like I don't you know. And it's not
Speaker 2: like I'm like, oh you got I'm not some contrarian, right,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not like always wanting to avoid something that
Speaker 2: everybody else enjoys. But I don't know what it is, like,
Speaker 2: I guess I just feel so so late, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's like, that's why I never really
Speaker 2: got into Game of Thrones. I'm like, yeah, I way behind,
Speaker 2: and the only commitment, the overall premise just doesn't really
Speaker 2: hook me. But I don't the two shows. I will
Speaker 2: say this, it's faded a little bit, and I think
Speaker 2: it might because apparently the ending was terrible and Thrones
Speaker 2: is that right?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: I I like the ending. It was controversial. All right,
Speaker 2: I'll fight. I'll fight anyone. That's okay, I like, but
Speaker 2: it was said by a lot, right, but I.
Speaker 4: Can yeah, I said that's the overright. I could see
Speaker 4: where people got mad. But if you if you know ball,
Speaker 4: the ending made sense.
Speaker 2: It's up there as one of the shows that I
Speaker 2: mean ninety nine point five percent anybody who has talked
Speaker 2: to me about it that's watched it talks about how
Speaker 2: phenomenal it was. And I've yet and I mean this,
Speaker 2: I have yet to to talk to a single person
Speaker 2: who has said that ted Lasso was not amazing, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that's said and it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm and it's not as if i've I've I've heard
Speaker 2: people say, yeah, it was good. The people who like
Speaker 2: talk to me about it like, no, it's amazing, like
Speaker 2: you have to watch it. So yeah, maybe eventually.
Speaker 4: Positive and very like upbeat about yourself.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe that's what Vinetti was getting at, because I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you, shows that are like positive and
Speaker 2: upbeat like that, I don't. I don't seek that out.
Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm a negative, awful person like
Speaker 2: things that make me internally, as you know, in my
Speaker 2: own world myself as an individual, like things that uplift me.
Speaker 2: And this is getting too personal, but it's like, you
Speaker 2: know things about special needs children and people helping them
Speaker 2: and and and you know that kind of stuff like
Speaker 2: that's that's like what gives me the good feel. But hey,
Speaker 2: who couldn't use more good feel? If ted Laso is
Speaker 2: going to give it to me as well, I mean
Speaker 2: I might as well enjoy it. And again, I'm not
Speaker 2: kidding you. And I'm sure maybe now we've got people
Speaker 2: on the text on that are going to say, now
Speaker 2: I watched it, Nick, it sucked, But you may be
Speaker 2: doing that just to mess with because I've yet to
Speaker 2: talk to anybody who said it was not phenomenal.
Speaker 4: I think Love on the Spectrum is an amazing show.
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 2: That it makes me too emotional, but it's and I
Speaker 2: mean that, but yes, it's I mean it's the fact
Speaker 2: that that show exists is awesome and I love it.
Speaker 2: The more the more inclusion that we have for folks
Speaker 2: that are that are of special needs is is better
Speaker 2: for everybody. And it's something that I'm super passionate about
Speaker 2: but there are things that you know, it just you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's my own world with with
Speaker 2: with me and my family. And if I just kind
Speaker 2: of you know, separate that and then see it, you know,
Speaker 2: it's good, it's it's healthy, but it also sometimes it
Speaker 2: just gets me too sappy. And I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I want to I don't
Speaker 2: want to that. Yeah, No, I have that enough in
Speaker 2: my life. I don't needed when I want to find
Speaker 2: something to watch.
Speaker 4: You know, those young men and women with autistic disabilities
Speaker 4: are so like, very well spoken, they're so kind hearted,
Speaker 4: and it's just a it's just a.
Speaker 2: The innocence of them. I mean, that's what that's right, right,
Speaker 2: that's what that's what makes it so special. And the
Speaker 2: fact that like.
Speaker 4: And they're bold too on that show man like when
Speaker 4: they get done with the date, like they'll just straight
Speaker 4: up say no, I don't want to go in another
Speaker 4: date with you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. They communicate differently. Yeah, and you know, and
Speaker 2: trust me, I'm in no way saying this about you,
Speaker 2: but I I know there's so many people that and
Speaker 2: I'm not even say anybody that I know personally, but
Speaker 2: just knowing the numbers and knowing what that show is
Speaker 2: in the platform that it's on. Think about how many
Speaker 2: people have at least now been able to get a
Speaker 2: perspective of what of what it's like to have someone
Speaker 2: like that in your life that would not have ever
Speaker 2: known had it been for that show. Right, So like
Speaker 2: that's overall, that's just that's a positive thing that makes
Speaker 2: me happy. I mean, we have we've yet to talk
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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess we'll pick up a little bit
Speaker 2: where we left off yesterday, because this news did come
Speaker 2: down in the five o'clock hour, and I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: seen it had it not been for Austin perusing Instagram
Speaker 2: to see that Javon Hadley had made the announcement that
Speaker 2: he is he's coming back to Louisville. I can't I
Speaker 2: can't stress how important this is to have a veteran,
Speaker 2: a guy who understands the culture. And look, even if
Speaker 2: he didn't come back, there'd still be some guys returning.
Speaker 2: But Javon was a captain from day one, and he
Speaker 2: is a respected I don't think it's something you should just,
Speaker 2: you know, ignore, and not that many people do, but
Speaker 2: go back if you know, you don't have to. But
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you the way that Pat Kelsey talks
Speaker 2: about how much he enjoys coaching, Javon Hadley stood out
Speaker 2: to me in a big way. I'm a nerd for
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Anyways, just because I miss I
Speaker 2: miss I missed playing sports. Basketball was the only sport
Speaker 2: I played. But like being coached, being held accountable, you know,
Speaker 2: being part of a culture. Like I know it's corny,
Speaker 2: but like that stuff. To me, that's that's awesome. And
Speaker 2: it was cool to follow a team that you know,
Speaker 2: I want to win, regardless of really how they do it,
Speaker 2: but like to see that play out night in and
Speaker 2: night out was awesome for those of me, you know,
Speaker 2: for those of you that are like me, you know,
Speaker 2: nerds for this stuff. But Javon is, I mean he is.
Speaker 2: He is the absolute extension of Pat Kelsey on the floor.
Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily just mean, you know, he really
Speaker 2: is in his high energy as Pat, because I'm not
Speaker 2: sure really anybody is, but he's he's a veteran, he's
Speaker 2: a leader, he understands what's expected. He's a good communicator
Speaker 2: with his teammates. So I'm not even sure what what
Speaker 2: his production is going to be next year, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean, I don't expect that it'll
Speaker 2: be subpar, but you know, last year he stepped into
Speaker 2: a bigger role because of the injury to case in prior,
Speaker 2: and he more than I think delivered again. I talked
Speaker 2: about it yesterday, his performances in January where he stepped up,
Speaker 2: and really that's when everybody got comfortable, right, because in
Speaker 2: December they were kind of putting it together, they were
Speaker 2: getting more comfortable. Yes, they lost at Rupperina. Yes, they
Speaker 2: ended up playing well against Duke for thirty minutes, and
Speaker 2: then it kind of, you know, fell apart. And then
Speaker 2: they had some games where they just you know, they
Speaker 2: were kind of getting by, right. They beat was it
Speaker 2: Florida State at their place? Good game, But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think that team then looked like they did
Speaker 2: when you got to January. Hell, they had the close
Speaker 2: call where they nearly lost to Eku, so they were
Speaker 2: still kind of trying to find themselves. And then they
Speaker 2: were rolling in January, and Javon Hadley was as big
Speaker 2: of a factor in that month of success, that win
Speaker 2: streak they had as anybody I know. I said yesterday
Speaker 2: it was probably more so Chucky, And you know, there's
Speaker 2: no need to argue who was more because they were
Speaker 2: all a big factor. There were four guys that I
Speaker 2: feel like, really and it's not to act as if
Speaker 2: the other guys weren't instrumental as well. I mean James
Speaker 2: Scott as far as what he does, he did it
Speaker 2: pretty well. In fact, he did it really well, but
Speaker 2: it's just not a whole lot of range there as
Speaker 2: far as he what he does trei Ora. Once he
Speaker 2: got healthy and he returned, he was a good guy
Speaker 2: off the bench with energy and defense and really understood
Speaker 2: his role. So it was it was a collective effort
Speaker 2: all the way around. But I think Javon had lee
Speaker 2: because he was a matchup problem for other teams and
Speaker 2: because you know, you didn't have Prior anymore. And that's
Speaker 2: that's the stretch for position, that that those two guys
Speaker 2: were going to be splitting minutes. And you can obviously
Speaker 2: play those guys together, and they did play together at
Speaker 2: times before Prior got hurt. But Javon coming back is
Speaker 2: is huge. And last year I think he was about
Speaker 2: twelve point seven points per game, seven and a half
Speaker 2: boards roughly, And I don't I mean, maybe he has
Speaker 2: that same stat line, maybe he has more, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, even if he doesn't have the same production,
Speaker 2: his value will show way more than what you see
Speaker 2: in the stat sheet. And here is his his announcement
Speaker 2: yesterday and in his video or I was running back
Speaker 2: and then they just show a bunch of highlights, but
Speaker 2: really cool production there. Whoever helped him do that probably
Speaker 2: the cinematographer for the program, former player who played for
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey at went through Bubblele who now does the
Speaker 2: video and the cinema stuff, and it was like a
Speaker 2: it looked like a real professional I mean, not that
Speaker 2: the press conferences don't typically look professional, but like it
Speaker 2: was a production and well done and certainly good news.
Speaker 2: So with that said, let's take a look at and
Speaker 2: again I don't want to these are I think it's
Speaker 2: worth mentioning, but I also am gonna probably throw the
Speaker 2: disclaimer on there more than I need to. When it
Speaker 2: comes to these rankings, I mean, what do you call them?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you call them entirely too early rankings?
Speaker 2: Because that's I think what a lot of folks are
Speaker 2: used to describe what these rankings are. But that's not
Speaker 2: even fair because you're ranking teams when you don't even
Speaker 2: know what teams are going to look like. I mean,
Speaker 2: I said this yesterday and it probably isn't true. It's
Speaker 2: probably a little bit of an exaggeration of my end
Speaker 2: but of all the top twenty five teams that you
Speaker 2: have in your entirely too early rankings, I mean, how
Speaker 2: many of them truly know what they have for next
Speaker 2: year right now? I would say none of them. And again,
Speaker 2: maybe there is like Houston's number one, and I'm just
Speaker 2: looking here at CBS. It's the first one I pulled
Speaker 2: up CBS Houston, Duke Perdue, Alabama, Yukon in the top five.
Speaker 2: I don't follow those programs closely, but I would imagine
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of unknown. I mean, in fact,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about this later. I've heard enough from folks
Speaker 2: who you know aren't hot take artists, right, I've heard
Speaker 2: enough from those that have explained it where it makes
Speaker 2: sense that Cooper Flag might come back to college like
Speaker 2: that might happen. I mean, I still have a hard
Speaker 2: time saying that that's what I think he'll do. But
Speaker 2: I'm now to the point where, like, you know what,
Speaker 2: when you're looking at who potentially he could go to,
Speaker 2: and the fact that he could, I mean, he will
Speaker 2: build his brand more as a duke superstar for a
Speaker 2: second year than he will in the NBA in his
Speaker 2: first year. He's will I mean, I know that sounds
Speaker 2: like the small market college basketball guy like me thinking
Speaker 2: that college basketball has a bigger reach than it actually does.
Speaker 2: And that's not really what I mean. It's just that
Speaker 2: this would be unprecedented. This would be something we've quite
Speaker 2: literally never seen before, and because of the new world
Speaker 2: of college hoops and the fact that these guys can
Speaker 2: make money, it's now a realistic thing now. Well it happened.
Speaker 2: Still have a hard time saying it will, but the
Speaker 2: fact that it's even something that can be discussed is crazy,
Speaker 2: but also again a sign that things have changed. So again,
Speaker 2: these rankings, you know that they're useless. But from the
Speaker 2: Louisville side of things, we have not had this in
Speaker 2: a long time. I mean, the last time there was
Speaker 2: an off season where there was like legit expectations where
Speaker 2: there was really no like in it was twenty nineteen twenty.
Speaker 2: It was the year that you know, we had a
Speaker 2: good team, really good team, and then we didn't get
Speaker 2: a tournament. We never got to see what would have happened.
Speaker 2: We never got to get any closure. And that's why
Speaker 2: for those guys, I hate it, because that's such a blur.
Speaker 2: That was a good season. I mean, they were good.
Speaker 2: They were number one in the country for a while.
Speaker 2: They had some big wins along the way. I mean
Speaker 2: they beat Duke at Duke, I mean when Duke was good.
Speaker 2: So you know that year you brought back literally everybody
Speaker 2: from the first year of Chris Mack that got a
Speaker 2: seven seed, wore a blew up as a sophomore, and
Speaker 2: then his decision to not go pro and come back,
Speaker 2: and then you brought in if you remember, the only
Speaker 2: guy you lost was was Christian Cunningham, and he was
Speaker 2: really valuable. In fact, they missed him more than I
Speaker 2: think we realized because they didn't really have That was
Speaker 2: one of the issues for that team is they didn't
Speaker 2: have a true point. They did, but I don't think
Speaker 2: Mack was comfortable enough letting DJ run the show until
Speaker 2: a little bit later on in the year. DJ was
Speaker 2: also hurt. And then Perry good player at times, but
Speaker 2: not a true point and then fresh Kimball was the
Speaker 2: guy they brought in and another guy that you know
Speaker 2: is a good combo guard can run the point, but
Speaker 2: like he's not, you know, he wasn't really a true
Speaker 2: point guard like you needed, like Cunningham was. So anyways,
Speaker 2: there was expectation. Then when Jordan Warred decided to come back.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a big story in college basketball overall. Well,
Speaker 2: now here we are, I guess six years later, we've
Speaker 2: got another season where there's going to be real expectation
Speaker 2: for Louisville. And right now, I mean, I guess anything
Speaker 2: can change, right because you could have commits that are
Speaker 2: in the mix right now from the portal that have
Speaker 2: you know, they reconsider things. I mean, I don't expect
Speaker 2: that to happen Louisville because I think both the two
Speaker 2: of the three have already signed, which I don't know
Speaker 2: if that means they can't change their mind. But either way,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be expectation for Louisville right now, even if
Speaker 2: you don't get case In, pryor back, and even if
Speaker 2: you end up maybe not adding really good pieces with
Speaker 2: the remaining scholarships you have, and you know, with that
Speaker 2: comes expectation, and you know, I don't want to say pressure,
Speaker 2: but we meeting Louisville fans and of course Kentucky fans
Speaker 2: are the same way Indiana fans as well. Like the
Speaker 2: off season is a lot more fun when you are
Speaker 2: looking ahead and knowing, hey, we should be pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: And look, there are always there's always going to be
Speaker 2: a segment of the fan base, any fan base that,
Speaker 2: even if there's not expectation and the objective folks that
Speaker 2: cover the sport do not think your team's going to
Speaker 2: be very good, there's still gonna be again, that segment
Speaker 2: of fans that will say, oh, we will be good.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll be a tournament team. But these are
Speaker 2: objective people that have no like, they're not kissing Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey's ass. They're not out here to like, I mean,
Speaker 2: what do they They don't gain anything by propping up Louisville.
Speaker 2: So to see that ESPN has them at number three,
Speaker 2: The Athletic has them at number four, Fox Sports has
Speaker 2: them at number three, Sports Illustrated has them at number five,
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven Sports has him at number eleven.
Speaker 2: USA today that I mentioned them, they have him at
Speaker 2: number ten, CBS has him number twelve, and then John
Speaker 2: Rostein I don't know where his his is, but we
Speaker 2: will talk about rostin later. But anyways, that's where Louisville
Speaker 2: is right now in these early rankings, and it's it's
Speaker 2: it's awesome to see it really is Now on the
Speaker 2: Kentucky side, if you go to the ESPN, they've got
Speaker 2: Kentucky at number six, and CBS has Kentucky at number fourteen.
Speaker 2: And let's see the Athletic. It may be behind a paywall,
Speaker 2: but not to brag, but that I got that subscription
Speaker 2: to the Athletic. Not to brag. I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: pulling out the black card, rightumb. I keep that Athletic
Speaker 2: subscription on me, you know what I'm saying. I keep
Speaker 2: it on me. You know, you never know when you're
Speaker 2: gonna need it. Here the Athletics great, Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: do have it, but I can't only have on my phone.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm sure they've got Kentucky relatively the same
Speaker 2: as as a lot of others do. And then USA
Speaker 2: today again I mentioned they had Lovel at number ten.
Speaker 2: They have Mark Pope and the Wildcats at number Where
Speaker 2: are they here? I got to keep scrolling. They at
Speaker 2: number sixteen, and let's see Fox Sports. That's that's our boy,
Speaker 2: Johnny Fanta. He had He's the first person I saw
Speaker 2: that had Lovel number three. And then I later I
Speaker 2: later realized that, yeah, our milk man. I love Fanta.
Speaker 2: He wasn't the only one that was high on the cards.
Speaker 2: But he has Kentucky sitting at let's see number sixteen again, Fanta,
Speaker 2: that's his rankings are for foxsports dot Com. And then
Speaker 2: where's the other Sports Illustrated. I don't remember where they
Speaker 2: had the Cats, but we can take a look. And yes,
Speaker 2: I am doing this to just let you know that
Speaker 2: as of now, everybody expects Louisville to be better than Kentucky,
Speaker 2: which you know, expectation and actually doing it totally different worlds.
Speaker 2: But been a while since we've been here, right, but
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated has them at number sixteen, and let's see
Speaker 2: where else twenty four to seven sports I mentioned them,
Speaker 2: didn't Yeah, they had Louisville sitting at number eleven, and
Speaker 2: they've got Kentucky at number sixteen and then the last
Speaker 2: one I wanted a reference here that we looked at,
Speaker 2: or maybe that's all of them. Either way, So expectations
Speaker 2: for both teams next year at least right now, and
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens from here on out, other than
Speaker 2: you know, guys that you expect. For example, if one
Speaker 2: of Louisville's top transfers decides he's out which I don't
Speaker 2: see that happening. That would obviously change. But like for Kentucky,
Speaker 2: if they lose, like ohay, like he decides to portal
Speaker 2: or go pro, that would change things. So again, even
Speaker 2: if you don't make big moves, I guess you could
Speaker 2: still from here on out drop because other teams like
Speaker 2: for example, let's say when you go to when you
Speaker 2: go to Fox Sports, right, like Louisville is sitting at
Speaker 2: number at number three in Fanta with Fanta, well right now,
Speaker 2: Duke's at number four. Well, if Cooper Flag does decide
Speaker 2: to come back, clearly they would jump ahead of Louisville
Speaker 2: and Louisville no longer be number three. So you could
Speaker 2: change to an extent. But there's gonna be some expectation
Speaker 2: for both programs around here next year, and that's what
Speaker 2: you want. I mean, I hope that Kentucky falls massively
Speaker 2: short of those expectations because you know they're the rival.
Speaker 2: But it's been a while since both teams one felt
Speaker 2: good about where they are and there was a legitimate,
Speaker 2: you know, buzz about both being in the top tier
Speaker 2: of the sport. In the upcoming season, we'll get more
Speaker 2: into the Cooper Flag stuff, because again, if in fact
Speaker 2: these guys can still get uncapable nil, which I know,
Speaker 2: the house settlement is still in the works. It's been
Speaker 2: a mess. It seems like this week. I've tried my
Speaker 2: best to keep up with it, but I'm also willing
Speaker 2: to acknowledge. I mean, I'm reading the legal jargon from
Speaker 2: folks and I don't know what some of that means.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've tried my best to get Okay, give
Speaker 2: me the update on what this NCAA house settlement case.
Speaker 2: Give me the give me the best updates you can
Speaker 2: provide for dummies like me, and I've yet to find it.
Speaker 2: So anyways, let's take a quick break. We'll come back
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Speaker 2: I could get used to the uh, I could get
Speaker 2: used to the three minute breaks there instead of you know,
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Speaker 2: breaks that we've had to we worked around it because
Speaker 2: we just do three minutes as a record? Yeah, is it?
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Speaker 2: seven ninety So for those who have kept up, who
Speaker 2: are not keeping up with it at all. I'll try
Speaker 2: my best to explain. But the House, the NCAA settlement,
Speaker 2: it's the two point eight billion dollar agreement that is,
Speaker 2: I guess not totally agreed upon yet, but it's it
Speaker 2: addresses compensation for college athletes. And what they're doing now
Speaker 2: is just trying to get the final approval. And there
Speaker 2: was a hearing that was set on Monday where there
Speaker 2: was a US District Judge, Claudia Wilkin, and she reviewed
Speaker 2: the proposal and or the proposed settlement, i should say,
Speaker 2: and she considered different objections from notable people, including former
Speaker 2: LSU gymnast Livy Dunn. And this woman she holds, this
Speaker 2: district judge, she holds a lot of the future of
Speaker 2: college athletics seemingly in her hands. And you know, when
Speaker 2: you hear about the athletes now getting a cut of
Speaker 2: the revenue in college sports, that's what this whole thing is.
Speaker 2: So the propost settlement includes provisions where schools can distribute
Speaker 2: up to twenty point five million annually to athletes starting
Speaker 2: July of this year, and it also sets aside two
Speaker 2: point five billion dollars in back damage just athletes who
Speaker 2: competed between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four without full
Speaker 2: Anisle benefits. So there's over one hundred and fifteen thousand
Speaker 2: athletes that have already gone through like opting in and
Speaker 2: trying to get their cut because they weren't able to
Speaker 2: make any money or take any money whenever they played
Speaker 2: college sports. Now, I still don't understand why you have
Speaker 2: that window between twenty sixteen and twenty fourteen. I don't
Speaker 2: get that at all. In fact, you had lawsuits that
Speaker 2: have been filed against then. It was the Memphis team
Speaker 2: from back in the late two thousands. Hell, there was
Speaker 2: a North Carolina NC state team that fouled a lawsuit
Speaker 2: from the seventies when they won a title. And Jenkins
Speaker 2: the I can't think of his first name, the Villanova
Speaker 2: guy who hit the game winner. Yeah, Chris Jenkins. Yeah,
Speaker 2: legendary all time. I mean, that's probably the best shot
Speaker 2: you'll see in a championship game. Ever, he is still
Speaker 2: fighting and not opting in. He's doing his own thing
Speaker 2: because and I guess what you have there is that
Speaker 2: there's they're suing because hey, we're not just like, not
Speaker 2: only are we not? Not only are we not? You know,
Speaker 2: in that window from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: but you're still using my image and likeness every time
Speaker 2: you promote the nce DOAA tournament and I've gotten nada
Speaker 2: from that, and I'm not just going to go accept,
Speaker 2: you know, the same measley amount of money that all
Speaker 2: other one hundred and eighteen thousand people are going to get.
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't say me easily. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, but like if you are, you know, let's
Speaker 2: go back to that NC State championship game right like
Speaker 2: that was when they beat five Islama Jama, that Houston
Speaker 2: team and the late Valvano is just running around on
Speaker 2: the court like a madman after he won a championship
Speaker 2: because he's so excited, like that footage. How many times
Speaker 2: you think that's been played? And those NC State guys
Speaker 2: are in that, they're a part of it, and they're
Speaker 2: I mean NC double A. What they did for so
Speaker 2: long was so illegal that any lawsuit that comes their
Speaker 2: way and gets in front of a judge, I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose. And look you can, because I know
Speaker 2: that it's a it's somewhat of a triggered talking point
Speaker 2: for some people. Because these athletes are not. And this
Speaker 2: is what I've even going back before we got close
Speaker 2: to where we are now with college sports and NIL
Speaker 2: and ne Portland all that, I have always said, Look,
Speaker 2: these these student athletes are not going without. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're getting a free education, which is insanely valuable, and
Speaker 2: they usually live a great lifestyle with great health care
Speaker 2: and treatment, and they get meal and they also get
Speaker 2: a stipend, which is like, you know, they're not just
Speaker 2: there getting taken care of. They have money to you know,
Speaker 2: to to live off of. Like they're not they're not
Speaker 2: going without. I've always tried to to, you know, to
Speaker 2: note that, because I don't think they're all like poor victims. However,
Speaker 2: when you see that the NC Double A is making
Speaker 2: billions of dollars with the NC Double A tournament specifically,
Speaker 2: there's just no way you can you can add it
Speaker 2: up that they not get any cut of that they are,
Speaker 2: in fact the performers. You can claim, well, they're student athletes,
Speaker 2: they're not employees. Okay, Well, even with that said, like
Speaker 2: the n sable A makes a lot of money, it's
Speaker 2: it's not a non it's not a non profit thing.
Speaker 2: And you got Mark Emerton as long as he was
Speaker 2: there getting those million dollar bonuses annually. Like I've just
Speaker 2: never it's just never been in any way a something
Speaker 2: that really makes sense that there's so much money. Look,
Speaker 2: if the NCAA tournament didn't make money and it was
Speaker 2: just out there for people, like it was all just
Speaker 2: you know, nobody's taking a cut, and it's just you know,
Speaker 2: it's not a business, and it's just the pure, you know,
Speaker 2: wholesome college athletics and they just put it on television
Speaker 2: for us to watch. That be different. But no, like,
Speaker 2: there's billions of dollars being generated off the entertainment that
Speaker 2: these human beings are providing. That alone is just Again
Speaker 2: that's why it's been ruled upon that you have to
Speaker 2: let them make money and you can't restrict them from
Speaker 2: go they're not employees. They're not, And the NAA doesn't
Speaker 2: want them to become employees because then that potentially could
Speaker 2: ruin college athletics because of the taxes with scholarships and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. I won't pretend to know
Speaker 2: a ton about all that, But the NCAA ceases to
Speaker 2: exist if these these athletes become employee status. So if
Speaker 2: you're going to maintain that they're they're not employees. They're
Speaker 2: just student athletes, just like you know your star quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's no different than the guy on the pep band. Like,
Speaker 2: if you want to live in that world, then you
Speaker 2: can't tell them what they can and can't do because
Speaker 2: pet band guy can go from one school to the other.
Speaker 2: Who's out there fighting, No, he has to sit out.
Speaker 2: So it's all ridiculous when you really think about it.
Speaker 2: But in the grand scheme of things, the ntable was
Speaker 2: told recently in the last couple of years, when this
Speaker 2: whole thing started brewing, that what you've done forever is illegal.
Speaker 2: That is why there's a two point five billion dollar settlement.
Speaker 2: And you can disagree, it didn't matter. The judge said that.
Speaker 2: So that's why we're here. That's why it's That is
Speaker 2: why you've got like the Juco rule, like the nc DOUBLEA.
Speaker 2: If they want to keep these guys as amateurs and
Speaker 2: have it college sports, which is really what their existence
Speaker 2: is dependent upon, then you can't tell a Juco kid
Speaker 2: that did not play but two years of NCAA experience
Speaker 2: that he's out of eligibility. I know, it sounds crazy
Speaker 2: and it's a mess that guys could go and play
Speaker 2: six years of college sports because of that. But like
Speaker 2: they want to to stay alive, they have to keep
Speaker 2: it to where again student athlete, amateur that stuff. But
Speaker 2: because of that, that's what's led to this ultimate just
Speaker 2: free for all. Nobody knows what the hell's going on.
Speaker 2: So my guess is that the hold up now is
Speaker 2: that they want to have some kind of like cap
Speaker 2: to where you can't like you can't do nil. But
Speaker 2: again that's the issue, is that if if Libby done,
Speaker 2: and by the way, she was somebody there objecting for
Speaker 2: this because look, she testified that the settlement undervalues her
Speaker 2: earning potential as the highest paid athlete female athlete under
Speaker 2: the NCAA's name, image and likeness rules. She argued that
Speaker 2: the agreement fails to I guess, like account for her
Speaker 2: established social media following and her brand value and it
Speaker 2: you know, so long story short, if they end up,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're going to be, they're not
Speaker 2: going to be able to tell you that you can't
Speaker 2: take money from collectives or you know, nil payments from
Speaker 2: just companies that want to that want to give you
Speaker 2: money because you can't legally tell them that they're not
Speaker 2: allowed to play if they take that money, because again
Speaker 2: they're not employees. So what I've always said is that
Speaker 2: the money that's going to be shared annually, the twenty
Speaker 2: point five million, that's essentially going to be a stipend. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if every football player is
Speaker 2: going to get the same cut, but obviously there's going
Speaker 2: to be a big chunk of it going to football,
Speaker 2: another chunk going to basketball, and then probably women's basketball,
Speaker 2: and then it's just, you know, dependent upon what schools
Speaker 2: want to do as far as how they want to
Speaker 2: share that money. So what's what it's going to come
Speaker 2: down to is NIL is still going to be super
Speaker 2: important because it's going to be the cherry on top. Right.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to do Kentucky, Carolina, Louisville, Indiana for basketball,
Speaker 2: I know from the revenue sharing, I'm getting the same money. Now, again,
Speaker 2: that would even the playing field, and that would make
Speaker 2: it to where you really don't have the advantage of
Speaker 2: offering more money. But they're not going to be able
Speaker 2: to legally tell you that youll you still can't take
Speaker 2: money from from you know, from collectives in NIL because
Speaker 2: What right do they have to tell you that you
Speaker 2: can't do that. None, That's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 2: So Nil is still going to be super important, and
Speaker 2: because of that Cooper flag, like, he will absolutely be
Speaker 2: able to still be the I mean, he could get hurt,
Speaker 2: and that, I guess is the chance why he wouldn't
Speaker 2: risk coming back. But he can get hurt in a workout, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I still have our time thinking he'll come back just
Speaker 2: because he would be unprecedented. But we are in a
Speaker 2: unprecedented time with college athletics like we've never been before. Alright,
Speaker 2: quick break, We've got two more hours left, so stick
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